does anyone know if there are water softeners / descalers that allow automation?
#the-water-cooler
tiny tapir
last plaza
@dry cairn just got the beast! Did not know how big this thing really is - looked small in pictures
dry cairn
reason for that is to shield the cpu board etc from background radiation
last plaza
really? wow!
dry cairn
yeah so it don t corrupt the ram or cpu
last plaza
even if I get the hard drives, I probably need the case/shell to pop them... I don't know whee to get them from
last plaza
there is a black plastic case inside shielding the mother board...
dry cairn
cheap bastards
last plaza
no, they did not give me the caddys... just a temporary blockers
last plaza
I know... not all the info is on their web site when want to buy... so many things miss
dry cairn
i'd call em and demand the caddys lol
last plaza
yes, I can do that... I can say I'd return it back 😉
dry cairn
simple send me the caddys that are missing and i won't send it back
last plaza
yep
last plaza
those guys charge a fortune for HDDs if you want to buy from them... I had pick at least 1 when ordering it
$30 each or for all of them?
last plaza
that;s what I ordered from newegg... I was thinking when I get the HDDs I can just pop them in.. not I have to deal with this caddy issue
wow!
no one tells me how expensive this could get unless you start doing it 😛
dry cairn
well you can just slide the drives in without caddy
last plaza
I could do that, they say the vibration can kill if it is not seated properly
dry cairn
yeah well
i got one running with 16 of em in it without caddys since 3 years 24/7 no issues
last plaza
oh cool... I can give it a try then
dry cairn
just make sure you put some thin rubber uner it
last plaza
yes, I can do that...
ok... I'm going to go pick up my kids, and will start working on it tonight
dry cairn
cool
clever mortar
Ooooh, custom hotwords for Google Assistant coming... https://9to5google.com/2018/01/29/google-app-7-20-assistant-apk-insight-teardown/
last cradle
Is that the Skull Canyon?
dry cairn
?
last cradle
oh wow.. didn't realize it had scrolled way up there. lol that was directed @last plaza and the pic of "the beast"
last plaza
@dry cairn for some reason, after installing ESXi, I don't see the drive there...
even during installation it only showed USB drives, but not the 1TB HDD
I thought it will show the drive after loggin into the ESXi console, but I don't see it there either...
any thoughts?
doesn't show anything under Storage... when I go to BIOS settings, I see the drive there, and all the tests I ran, were successful
I ended up installed ESXi on the USB device
Just found out DELL has a specific drivers and the image for ESXi... I am going to try that now
dry cairn
@last plaza esxi prolly requires a raid controller
there is a workaround for it if i remember correctly
last plaza
yes, I realized that
Dell apparently has a customized ESXi installation for theier servers... just downloaded and making a bootable...
let me see if that does it
dry cairn
well there is a workaround for it for the latest version god knows how old dells is
last plaza
ok 😉
I love the server so far... rock solid, and when the fans are at ther full speed, it sounds like someone is flying a quadcopter at home 😛
dry cairn
yup
dull chasm
@last plaza you giving free rides
last plaza
@dull chasm trying to setup ESXi on the server, never done that before, ran into issues with some drivers
dull chasm
@last plaza I understand... just want a ride on the quadcopter
last plaza
@dull chasm for that, you need to talk to @tidal bronze 😃
he is THE REAL quadcopter guy
dry cairn
yeah i'm here
dull chasm
why does this give me cant resolve host
lv_room_frontdoor_cam: "/usr/bin/curl -X POST http://192.168.1.15:2971/api/command -H \"Content-type: application/json\" -d '{'url': http://192.168.1.153:5050/cameras?skin=default}'"
yes
dry cairn
and why a skin
dull chasm
thats for dashboard
dry cairn
why not just grab the jpeg and rtsp
dull chasm
its a command to send to dashboard to change url
dull chasm
this works
lv_room_dash_refresh: "/usr/bin/curl -X POST http://192.168.1.15:2971/api/command -H \"Content-type: application/json\" -d '{'relaunch': true}'"
that relauches it
dry cairn
hmmm
last plaza
@dry cairn Yep! I see the HDDs now - Just had to use Dell's version of ESXi
dry cairn
or use the current and whitelist the driver they blacklisted lol
last plaza
:0)
dull chasm
@dry cairn well damn.... you gotta do better
dry cairn
🙄
dull chasm
🦐 🔫
last plaza
@dry cairn now I can see the drive...
dry cairn
😜
last cradle
So what is "the beast"?
cerulean totem
dull chasm
looks good
last plaza
@last cradle It is the new DELL Server I got... It looked small in pictures, but when I received, it is HEAVY as rock and it is 5U size.... that's why I called it a beast. It is super powerful, and finally setup ESXi, running Windows 2016 server on VM now. next step is to get Ubuntu Server...
last cradle
nice
pure vine
@last plaza that UI reminds me, there is a web controller for QEMU and KVM I need to look at it
last plaza
@ioangogo#3249 yes.. this is the vSphere Mgmt Console
last plaza
@dry cairn I am done setting up Windowss 2016 and Ubuntu Server last night... looks like everything is set now! 😃
dry cairn
👍
shy comet
if any of you guys have a 4k hdr tv.....you need Blue Planet 2 in your life 😉
last plaza
@serene mortar My NAS is getting crowded now, I am going to move some things off of it - like Docker, MySQL...etc. Good thing is I can spin off VMs in an instant for various things.
serene mortar
@last plaza How many bays do you have on the NAS?
last plaza
I setup Windows 2016 server on a VM, and I will be deploying Bot and Web Servers on that, and I could also use that as my network server for WINS, Proxy...etc
My NAS has 4 Bays, and the new server has 8 hot pluggable HDDs
serene mortar
I see
last plaza
I will start seggregating application, middleware, data and networking slowly
wraith temple
hey folks, can anyone help me upgrade nodejs - despite upgrading the version always comes back as 4.2.6 (when i need to be over 4.5) - not overly familiar wth nodejs, node, and npm
last plaza
@shy comet OMG, Blue Planet 2 is absolutely fantastic!!!
@dry cairn the SCSi drives are noisy
I should have gotten SSDs, but ran out of coins 😦
serene mortar
@last plaza Your NAS should support VMs....Synology does
last plaza
@serene mortar yes... It is already running at it's peak right now the Surveillance, and Plex/Media takes up most of the CPU cycles
serene mortar
Plex transcoding is heavy for sure. Without Plex, Surveillance is using 3 to 5% with 4 cameras (I use the camera detection for alerts)
BTW....I should learn what you guys use the VMs for
I just installed the virtual machine manager to see what can be done 😃
last plaza
it is the ffmpeg transcoding of the cameras that takes up CPU cycles... the NAS surveillance is recording all the time, but every few minutes it needs to save by converting to video - thats when CPU spikes up for a period...
@serene mortar the ESXi is the way to go if you want to spin off VMs... very easy to do... I did for the first time, and it was a breeze... there is so much that I need to explore
serene mortar
Yeah....need to explore those.
wraith temple
dying here - node version i now have a 9.4 but npm is throwing an error that doesnt run on a specific version 4.x and i need to upgrade
pure vine
run npm -v and node -v
trail crag
@last plaza what HDs are you putting in your new box? know of any good deals?
odd mason
@cerulean totem why would you need to see what time of day it is?
dry cairn
@last plaza they not scsi they just show as scsi they sata/sas
last plaza
@trail crag I've ordered one HDD from DELL, it wouldn't let me do it otherwise. They are expensive if you order them from their web site - almost double price. I looked for 7200 RPM minimum either NAS drives or Data Center rated drives from Western Digital. SSDs and faster than 7200 RPM HDDs can be pricey!
I usually check on newegg or tigerdirect web sites.. they have deals/sales all the time
dry cairn
i bought 24 8tb datacenter drives 256mb cache those things fly
trim cliff
Anyone run Minecraft servers at home? I'm trying to set one up for the kiddos and am not sure about these mods.. trying to recreate some of the mini games if possible they have online (bedwars, etc..)
last plaza
@dry cairn where do you buy from? ebay?
sacred ridge
@trim cliff I ran a minecraft server for a bunch of years. a lot of the minigames they play online are probably plugins for Spigot. a third-party minecraft server with a bunch of extra features
generally speaking they are pretty plug n' play, you just drop a file in the plugins folder and resart/reload the server and it'll be ready. A lot of them have configuration in YAML though
skyblock's another big one
trim cliff
@sacred ridge aah..thanks. I might have to spin up a spigot server then.. I didn't realize they had different flavors of minecraft.. I just downloaded the most popular docker image (which was forge)..and ran with it.
This is super useful info!
sacred ridge
no problem!
trim cliff
I had downloaded this one : https://hub.docker.com/r/itzg/minecraft-server/
sacred ridge
yeah that just looks like the vanilla server straight from minecraft
though using "vanilla" can cause problems because Spigot and friends are all "vanilla" in that people with unmodified minecraft clients can still connect to them
trim cliff
this is just a private alternative to hypixel for my son and his friends.. they are a bunch of 10 - 12 year olds.. so unmodified clients would be used..
sacred ridge
yeah that'd be fine, but in recent years people like Tekkit and Feed the Beast have been releasing heavily modded minecraft servers and clients that a lot of kids are getting into that causes some confusion occasionally
trim cliff
Yeah .. the image I had supported FTB but I couldn't get any of the mods works.. (i'm sure it was an error on my part) ..but generic building with some minigames should be a winner.. so I'll give spigot a go.. Docker makes these experiments super simple.
sacred ridge
ah, cool. I need to get into docker
trim cliff
It was SUPERISNGLY simple.. and the HA image is awesome.
Upgrading/downgrading is dead simple.
@sacred ridge
sacred ridge
ooooh it has a pretty UI
trim cliff
That's an add-on called cockpit.
sacred ridge
I think that's what makes me bounce off of docker because there are so many commandline hooks you have to give it and remember to make it work right
I spend most of my day in a shell but i still don't like the way docker works
trim cliff
I end up making a lot of aliases.. and docker-compose works on YAML so that makes it pretty easy too.
sacred ridge
I just do containers the lazy way and spin up yet another VM
sacred ridge
they more or less are, just with a lot less overhead
I haven't been playing with home-assistant for very long and my setup feels kinda janky, but i'm planning a rebuild of my home server soon so maybe i'll use it as an excuse to learn docker
sacred ridge
awesome
sacred ridge
also yeah the spigot people have to jump through some hoops in order to actually pass a minecraft server, which is closed-source
trim cliff
Yeah .. it's building and downloading on the fly. 😃
sacred ridge
if you were running it natively instead of docker you would be having to jump through all those hoops
that's pretty nice
trim cliff
Do you know if I have to create a plugin folder? (like the mods folder?)
sacred ridge
nah it should be there already
trim cliff
Oh yeah ..if not for docker, the kids would be vanilla.. (at best!)
sacred ridge
you'll be dropping .jar files in it
sacred ridge
and then there should be config files in /config or similar
TBH it's been like a year since i spun up a spigot server but i do know it's not changed much since
i just couldn't do it anymore
trim cliff
No worries.. this is HEAPS of info..
sacred ridge
glad i can help 😄
trim cliff
so the nice thing about how docker works is the /config is mapped to the host.. so that stays while the whole image is updated and then just mapped in.. really slick.
trim cliff
Thanks!
wraith temple
@pure vine turns out i needed version 6.x (not 4 or 9 lol)
can you build a switch that sends on http request for on, and a different url for off?
last plaza
@dry cairn on call with Dell guys - giving them grief about the SATA HDD caddys 😃
trim cliff
@sacred ridge so can you use mods with spigot? (like from forge?)
sacred ridge
Nope, forge itself is a mod that runs other mods
forge is to other mods as spigot is to plugins
trim cliff
ahh.. ok ..make sense.
sacred ridge
you can end up with custom spigot servers that people have installed Forge on, that have both of their functionalities, but it's always suuuper finnecky
last plaza
@dry cairn got the 7 caddys for free - expedited delivery 👍
@trail crag here is another deal on HDDs at newegg - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822179299 256MB cache, 4TB for $99 - I think it is 5600 RPM drive... if you go with the Fire model, it might be faster, but more 💰
trim cliff
@last dirge The Rocket Launch alert Worked!!
trim cliff
Yeah .. living green is great.. still not approved by county .. but installed.
last dirge
how's that work?
trim cliff
Another reason to go with Tesla. They are paying my electric bill until county approves..
last dirge
it's there but you can't use it?
last dirge
so it's not even charging the batteries?
last dirge
laaaame
trim cliff
Energy monopoly.
last dirge
that tariff will effectively kill the solar industry
trim cliff
isn't it just an import tarrif?
last dirge
yeah
but most of the solar jobs in the US are service/installation jobs
pretty sure your panels came from Korea
trim cliff
Tesla will begin producing panels/roofs inhouse.. could be a huge win for them.
and tesla is the biggest solar pusher around.
last dirge
he's your pusher man
last plaza
I think Tesla guys should deliver the cars that they promised and then move onto other things... they keep coming up with new designs, but not delivering enough
dry cairn
give it another 2-3 years and tesla will stomp em all
i really like those roof tiles
i wonder if they would let me cover 100% of my roof with it instead of 30% non solar tiles
cerulean totem
@odd mason I am rolling up my automation. I can now check time of day and away status to determine if I run a automation instead of checking a bunch of different conitions
I do wish we had a compatible device list.
That page doest really talk a lot about there product
trail crag
https://youtu.be/FqldxnIOwSU?t=41 Lol that wine bottle is not reliable
shy comet
omg lol didnt notice that the first time ahha
apparently the guy who did Rule Machine on SmartThings is working on this product
dry cairn
fake new fake weather now fake wine ...what has teh world come to
shy comet
tomorrow we will have a fake computer virus 😛
pure vine
@shy comet it looks quite good for an appliance, still less powerful than hass
dry cairn
they use fake wine what else are they lying about
shy comet
@pure vine yea I agree definitely less powerful, no question there. But maybe a better alternative than ST or wink for friends who arent as technically savvy as us
pure vine
@shy comet Yep, although with the recent UI changes and hass.io i feel like a HA appliance is achevable in the near future
shy comet
@pure vine I agree as well. I saw the upcoming Config Manager which is another great step forward in that direction. Definitely achievable
last plaza
@dry cairn the server doesn't have sound card, and I can't get my TTS played the way I had it before 😭
I deviced a plan to drop the TTS message onto MQTT, and have a Raspberry Pi pickup that text and call amazon_polly and play TTS in the house. lots of changes
dry cairn
@last plaza im still modding a 3d printer
from this
to this
gonna have to install octoprint on the ha and then see if i can network print and have the gui within the ha gui
dull chasm
yea ...you need that.... looking alot better btw
dry cairn
well its alive and moving
last plaza
Oh, Wow!!!
You have been playing with 3D printers so much, you can make one from scratch with parts 😀
dry cairn
@last plaza lol yeah this is a complete rebuild new board and with a bigass mosfet for the bed and custom hardware for the thermocouples
gloomy canyon
hey folks, i did a howto for installing HA on an intel nuc. anybody in the mood to read it and tell me what you think about it?
last plaza
@gloomy canyon yes. Of course!
gloomy canyon
nice, i'll send you the url in private
serene mortar
@gloomy canyon Share the link here....I would love to read too
gloomy canyon
ok...
last cradle
ditto
gloomy canyon
serene mortar
perfect
shy comet
@gloomy canyon looks really good 😃 you know I always wondered why pip install wheels isn't a dependency for home assistant. without that step you get build errors when installing home assistant.
gloomy canyon
😃
shy comet
hmm anyone here consider writting manuals for smart home for family members? like for voice commands or remotes? starting setting a few things up for my parents and beginning to think that might help them use it more lol
last cradle
I wish someone would write a manual for my 70 year old mother on how to use her first smart phone
shy comet
lol yea i setup a harmony remote and google home for my parents with some simple stuff but not sure my mom will be able to remember it lol....she does a good job using her phone but i feel some sort of manual may help her visually
last plaza
@gloomy canyon great job, I never had to run pip install wheels - it is usually installed automatically 😃
last cradle
go for it. very well presented
gloomy canyon
which is the best category on the forums? share your projects?
oak haven
stupid question: don't we have enough install guides?
dull chasm
@oak haven well.... do you watch the choas in #330944238910963714..... maybe a fresh outlook would help
oak haven
I stopped reading there (sometimes I still have a look) same as most forum categories... users ask stupid questions and don't read
...so maybe our docs or search is bad 😄
shy comet
we need a doc to help users read the docs 😉
dull chasm
@oak haven Well I dont see it the same way... Just like I tell my son a stupid question is one thats not asked
last plaza
we have many guides including the online docs, people come from diffrent backgrounds, these articles are useful to specific implementations
last lake
@shy comet first we need a white paper explaining why we need a doc to help users read the docs
last plaza
also - helps community to come together
dull chasm
@last plaza agree totally
oak haven
but on the other side we have tons of install guides and loose the overview
last plaza
I was setting up HA on my virtual machine the other day, followed the docs, but my z-wave wouldn't setup... until @clever mortar jumped in to help me...
oak haven
yes it's cool that you help all those guys all day 😃
clever mortar
The docs got beaten into submission 😉
I wonder if our "getting started" guide is starting in the wrong place.
last plaza
there is a balance - if we put information in documentation, people don't read 😛 these short articles for specific usecases come to rescue 😃
dull chasm
yep.. a starting point would be good
clever mortar
A high level overview explaining what HA is, what it does, and how the various pieces fit together.
Right now it dives in at installing Hass.io
dull chasm
@clever mortar Very Good Point
shy comet
i bet if we supplied screenshots and used numbered lists where it needed it might help out a lot
dull chasm
@clever mortar why we keep you around
last lake
sounds like we need a wiki
shy comet
we do
clever mortar
I've spent too long writing documentation for a range of skills 😉
last plaza
We need short videos - officially sponsored by Home Assistant 😃
shy comet
I t hink maybe even enabling comments on a doc would be helpful
clever mortar
Burn the heretic!
last plaza
reading has become a lost art these days... people prefer youtube
clever mortar
Videos are useful, as long as the author keeps them updated - and that's the problem
last plaza
that's why the mods or a few community members need to keep an eye on it
Just like we do Podcasts, we need a group of folks/volunteers who can actually do the Videos
shy comet
I woudl love if the video authors mention and link to the docs more
oak haven
well it's a lot of work to rewrite the getting started 😛
shy comet
like instead of showing the commands, show the page where the commands are
show users how to read the docs
think about the user who doesnt have any experience coding at all
tahts what a guide should be aimed at
clever mortar
Yup, a good guide should start somebody from "I know what a computer is, and I want home automation" through to their first automation
shy comet
you know what would be really helpful
clever mortar
A plan?
shy comet
a page that lists all teh breaking changes in one place for each release
in case you dont update every release
oak haven
also in my opinion: it would be better if you tell more users to install hassio first instead of hassbian... it's better for noobs
clever mortar
I have previously suggested that each component has a list of the revisions in which a breaking change happened, but I think that's better @shy comet
shy comet
I like that idea too though, it should be listed in more than 1 place 😃
clever mortar
@oak haven Well, the official docs say that, but while it's the developers preferred kicking off point, I think it's a mistake to push everybody that way
I think the right thing would to be summarise the install options, and let people pick, rather than putting Hass.io up in huge neon letters, and hiding the and go this way for other options in 2mm high transparent letters at the bottom
dull chasm
@oak haven are you smoking something.... NO TO HASSIO
clever mortar
For those who're looking for a Wink/ST/whatever replacement, and nothing more, Hass.io makes perfect sense
For those who want to stray beyond those boundaries, it's not so clear cut
dull chasm
yea but shit... I am tired of Hassio always coming up .... it is just another install option
oak haven
Well hassio will soon get better MQTT integration und if someone improves the NGINX addon it's great
dull chasm
yea but its not GOD
clever mortar
MQTT... thankfully MQTT is no longer a key requirement
I mean, sure, 12 months ago it was the glue for so many things, but it's not the case today
Also, given that HA already has a built in MQTT server that's good enough for most things... 🤷
shy comet
yea people just like an all-in-one solution though
i bet if we had a windows.exe file that would be #1
clever mortar
😮
Probably would be though
And for those people, I do think Hass.io is a good choice
But, as I said, choice, not only choice
shy comet
hass.io should be a starting point for people just getting into HA or don't have teh need to integrate everything under the sun
its like what you would insall for your parents if you didnt want to maintain it
dull chasm
@shy comet not a should but a option
clever mortar
Replace should with could, and I'd agree
But I see as many people frustrated with Hass.io and switching to other options, as the other way around
shy comet
yea true
dull chasm
i think we done run off @oak haven
clever mortar
I think we (the project) do a bad job of helping people make a more informed decisions when they start
trail crag
There are stupid questions.
clever mortar
True, but most of the questions are because of a lack of accessible information
trail crag
That person in class, who takes up 30 min of time asking questions, each more circuitous and confused than the last, while the rest of the class sits there obliging...
I was just addressing "there are no stupid questions". I've never liked the phrase
clever mortar
😄
There are people who're being deliberately stupid, that I'll agree with
"Stupid" questions from others usually mean that the person isn't informed. Sometimes it means they're never going to understand, sometimes it means they're being an arse
dull chasm
@trail crag well that does persume a person willing to learn
gloomy canyon
mhm folks keep asking why i did my howto not with the docker image...
dull chasm
cause you didnt want too....simple
dull chasm
I guess not...should be click and go...stuff with no reading
gloomy canyon
yeah my aim was to get as many people as possible through this but the comments are...
"sooo complicated... do this this... do that"
my initial enthusism has a dent
dull chasm
dont stress
clever mortar
Some people want the idiot button that does it all for them, without having to think, or understand
Like so many of the rest of us, you wanted something else, and did so.
pure vine
A stupid question is when a question is asked twice
clever mortar
Or maybe that's a sign they didn't understand the answer 😉
dull chasm
yes.... i have no problem with the same question twice if the person is trying and each question show progression
clever mortar
Or if they go "I didn't understand that"
dull chasm
yea
clever mortar
Simply asking again and again though, I'll take as a sign that they're a fscking moron, or lazy, or both
dry cairn
👍
shy comet
maybe if i ask again the answer will be what im looking for 😉
dull chasm
nope same thing rtfm 🤣
shy comet
lolol
oblique nymph
I'm having a problem connecting my MySQL to Home Assistant - I've activated my virtualenv - trying to pip3 install mysqlclient
and I get the following: Command "python setup.py egg_info" failed with error code 1 in /tmp/pip-build-fbjc0c8x/mysqlclient/
I've tired upgrading setuptools - and its already up to date Requirement already up-to-date: setuptools in ./lib/python3.5/site-packages
radiant heron
what is error code 1?
oblique nymph
well I figured out that I was logged in as my HASS user and got all of that upgarded
upgraded*
although I'm still getting the MySQLDB error in HASS
radiant heron
if you can give me a specific error I may be able to help
oblique nymph
[homeassistant.components.recorder] Error during connection setup: No module named 'MySQLdb'
radiant heron
ah, so so far it's nothingto do with your commection, either MySQLdb is not instaelled or not included
oblique nymph
I think I might have it
you have to be regular user under virtualenv to upgrade the tools
radiant heron
lol
maybe you can help me, hass is complainingabout dark sky and it's not working:
Unable to connect to Dark Sky. HTTPSConnectionPool(host='api.darksky.net', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: ##### (Caused by NewConnectionError('<urllib3.connection.VerifiedHTTPSConnection object at 0x738518b0>: Failed to establish a new connection: [Errno -3] Try again',))
and I checked the url and it's fine
oblique nymph
are you hitting an API limit ?
dull chasm
@radiant heron the code has a throttle in it to help ya with not reaching the api limit.... have you restarted alot
radiant heron
a few times, yea but since the get go, it has thrown that error (have restarted about 4 times since then)
dry cairn
ugh this piece of shit nuc got so slow since the dumb patches i'm ready to hit it with a hammer everything is taking twice as long
gloomy canyon
Whaf Patches? Meltdown fuckup?
Stupid mobile Keyboard
Whaf Whaf which... I should go to bed
marble lily
I've probably spent 6 or 7 hours total setting up my Pi with hassio and HomeBridge. I have 0 programming experience besides HTML/CSS and I think I'm starting to get grey hairs from this stuff lol
mint musk
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pure vine
/
shy comet
spectre/meltdown @gloomy canyon
I havent noticed much @dry cairn on my i5 but i only have hass and pihole
shy comet
its practically any intel/amd chip in teh past 10 years
unless you got the chip this year you are impacted
did not impact rpi though
gloomy canyon
yeah read about the disaster
pure vine
I havent noticed it on my old AMD server
shy comet
it must be when you bring the machine to its knees
pure vine
I dont think i have even updated it
shy comet
can probably be brought down ot its knees faster? 😛
there were a few kernel updates in ubuntu past couple weeks
think those were the patches
pure vine
look in /sys/device/cpu/vunrablities to check IIRC
gloomy canyon
root@metis:/sys/devices/cpu# ls -l vunrab*
ls: cannot access 'vunrab*': No such file or directory
hm.
pure vine
Im in windows currenly as i am using sonocent audio note taker
So i dont think ive got it right
shy comet
windows 10 yes but others no i believe
pure vine
/sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities
There is the path for linux, from this patch https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10148469/
shy comet
hmm i dont have the vulnerabilities directory
they must be going from latest released then
8th gen were impacted too right?
pure vine
Yes
gloomy canyon
root@metis:/sys/devices/system/cpu# find /sys/ -iname 'vulnerabilities'
root@metis:/sys/devices/system/cpu#
hm
shy comet
oh look at that
pure vine
My current laptop is a 8th gen
gloomy canyon
u# uname -r
4.13.0-32-generic
shy comet
sme here @gloomy canyon
pure vine
My fedora partition has it
shy comet
yea im on a 2nd gen i5 for hass
gloomy canyon
Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic) will release in April of 2018, and will ship a 4.15 kernel, which includes the KPTI patchset as integrated upstream.
hm
pure vine
they should have backported the fixes
shy comet
yea im on 17.10 now
will prob update to 18 once others confirm its good and stick to that lol
pure vine
Talking of computer hadware I need to add some crypto currencys sensors to my hass config, I need to find out when GPU prices will fall
violet tide
hi ho can i write a log if a switch turned on?
with directory?
can i impement python to homeassistant automations?
clever mortar
@violet tide Try #330944238910963714 (and read the topics for the channels)
pure vine
NASA is playing kerble space program
gloomy canyon
maybe they found some goo on earth and don't know what to do
trim cliff
anyone run a minecraft server here? I need suggestions for permission manager..
last cradle
@trim cliff Are you runing Bukkit, Spigot or something else?
trim cliff
spigot
last cradle
That's what I used to run before going straight Vanilla
I ran Permissionsex if I remember correctly
trim cliff
yeah ..just loaded it up..
last cradle
it's a beast if I remember right. You can lock down almost anything bu groups or individuals
we also used something to let people claim land and they could give individuals permission to do stuff or not do stuff on their plots
the default of course was "it's mine and you can't touch/open/close/break it
@trim cliff
trim cliff
Yeah .. I am slowly messing iwth it.. I found this : https://pastebin.com/VpARUqiq
and I'm adapting it
last cradle
Cool
oh yeah.. essentials was nice too heh.. been a long time since I messed with that stuff
oak haven
Last time I setup a MC server I used forge cause of all the cool mods 😎
brisk light
anyone know of any really cheap (like $5) stick on smart buttons like the amazon dash or the flic that I can simply use as a toggle button for hass?
i have a 433/315mhz hub, wifi of course, and a smartthings hub. so can interface with a lot of different techs
clever mortar
brisk light
@mystic heron hmm, actually while not really a small button, for my purpose in the laundry room, these might work great https://www.ebay.com/itm/142608954237?var=441582867242
though the problem with something like that is i guess you have to use another remote to teach it. Not sure how to do that without then making that source remote worthless
though i guess with my 433mhz transmitter gateway, i could simply create new codes to send to them. that should work i would think
dry cairn
@last cradle
clever mortar
@oblique nymph So, the question becomes - how many drives, and what's your priority. RAID levels/ZFS choices are a trade off between resilience, capacity, and performance
Also, what size of drives?
oblique nymph
@clever mortar 2 4tb NAS hard dirves - 1 500 gb - 1 128 SSD
clever mortar
So, for a pair of drives, RAID1/Mirror
There's nothing sensible to do with the 1.5 TB drive or the SSD, other than maybe using the SSD for caching
oblique nymph
I don't know if I'll need redundancy
its all just tv shows and movies
which I can just redownload
it would suck, but no biggy
clever mortar
So, if you go with RAID0 then the loss of any drive loses everything
oblique nymph
right
it would suck, but again, I can redownload
does cache speed things up? @clever mortar
clever mortar
A bit, maybe, depending on your usage pattern
https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/how-to-combine-smaller-disks-for-efficient-raidz-with-different-sized-disks.17041/ for carving your three spinning disks into suitable slices to make what you're after work
oblique nymph
@clever mortar thank you
clever mortar
No worries
last plaza
@dry cairn
inner fossil
stupid unifi question ... I have an edgerouter X, and I need more eth ports. Can I just buy a ubiquiti switch to expand capacity?
dry cairn
yep that was stupid
thats like asking in ecosystem channel if its ok to bake your pizza bread at 375 instead of 350
but hey ....at least you showed up .....🏆
dry cairn
👍
any complaints can be handed to @dull chasm @clever mortar @last plaza or @trim cliff
clever mortar
You can always add more switches - though, smarter to add fewer switches with more ports, than more switches with fewer ports @inner fossil
dull chasm
@inner fossil short answer is yes
dry cairn
hey stop ruining my moment here
clever mortar
Don't worry about @dry cairn - he's just the resident grumpy old man 😉
dull chasm
@dry cairn you have plenty of moments
dry cairn
shy comet
lol
dry cairn
🤖
inner fossil
thanks guys. im not a network person.
dry cairn
@inner fossil aright i just have been informed you cool so ignore the above 😛
clever mortar
There are practical limits - you can't chain switches forever, but you'll not notice the difference between direct connection or through three switches chained together @inner fossil
hexed herald
any device smaller than pi 3 and that supports google or alexa ?
clever mortar
Anything will run the component, running the software to turn it into a GHome or Alexa clone, that's different
hexed herald
yeah clone on a small and portable device
austere musk
@dry cairn
last cradle
Lol
gloomy canyon
anybody using autossh with ssh tunnels?
dry cairn
@austere musk now that is funny
now everybody said you can t run a tft32 display and a glcd display at the same time on a smoothieboard
yet here we are
clever mortar
To run Home Assistant, maybe. As a proper home server, I'd say no
The only way to connect storage is USB... that's not great
clever mortar
Maybe - you'll want to consider how you'll protect from disk failure (mirrors, backups). USB connected disks also tend not to be the most responsive - manufacturers seem to use the slower disks there
dry cairn
dry cairn
pure vine
Yes, its very dark
dry cairn
woot woot my frankenstein printer is alive and put together
6 or 7 days build time
last cradle
I'll PM you my address so you can send it out tomorrow
dry cairn
right i get right on that ...pinky promise
velvet horizonBOT
dry cairn
^^^^ see
last cradle
LOL
dull chasm
i think 8ball lies
dry cairn
~8ball are you legit?
velvet horizonBOT
dry cairn
got a set of airfibers for sale if anyone is looking for one AF5 used for 5-6 month
1.2gbps throughput
dry cairn
1500 for the pair ..... they going for about 1200 each on ebay they the good one with the 2 dishes not the modular crap
pale eagle
@dry cairn im rather happy with my anet a8, atm abt to build a hypercube evolution.
pale eagle
besides the frame 90% of the parts arrived already.
dry cairn
dry cairn
its cool
last cradle
I need to get a new ceiling fan for my bedroom. Any good options out there with WiFi control or will work with HUSBZ-1?
dry cairn
printer finished
and working
1st print was 0.20mm out of spec
the touchscreen case is printed with carbon fiber
last cradle
That's the one you are shopping too me, right? Lol
dry cairn
go make yor own lol
dry cairn
👍
jaunty cedar
1st world problems: It's snowing so heavy it's setting the motion detection notifications off on the CCTV.
pure vine
Shurely it would be easy to detect snow, although the IR thats used in night mode would make that hard
pure vine
intresting song
pure vine
Looks cool, I kind of wish the would've reinvent the wheel. I like the w3c standard they are suggesting, could be added into netdisco
shy comet
yea it will be interesting to see where they take it in teh future
pure vine
shy comet
Tesla....the first car to visit Mars
dull chasm
yea no doubt
pure vine
Tesla....the first car to visit orbit Mars
shy comet
lol
dull chasm
damn hassbot approved
pure vine
Tesla....the first car to visit orbit miss Mars
last cradle
lol
shy comet
any comicbook movie fans here?
clever mortar
👋
last cradle
right here, yo
clever mortar
Hmmmm, don't remember that one
shy comet
shy comet
yup!!!
shy comet
i love how they do things just for the trailer lol
this year is probably goign to make good money for comic book movies....so many good ones
excited for Black Panther next week
clever mortar
Yeah, but at this point - is Marvel, will watch
They've had a few "not awesome" movies, but none I've regretted seeing
clever mortar
Yeah
shy comet
i think teh last mediocre one was Thor 2?
shy comet
yea same here, so well done....i hope we get a 4k HDR release for that one
thor 3 was really good too, i loved the comedy...especially Korg
clever mortar
I'll need to upgrade my home kit before I do 4K
And yeah, Thor 3 was so damn funny
shy comet
yea i had to do a lot of prep stuff for 4k to work properly in my home theater
windows and kodi are still finnicky with HDR
clever mortar
Need to upgrade the TV first, then upgrade my media transfer system to support 4K media
Plex will handle it, but I've no way of playing 4K media currently
shy comet
yea plex has to direct play it though....transcoding is definiltey not there yet for 4k unless you have a beast of a machine
i had to upgrade TV, receiver and PC lol
clever mortar
Yeah, I pre-transcode all my media to a baseline the TV, XBox, and Android devices can all direct play
shy comet
ended up getting i5 kaby lake, GTX 1050 but luckily everything works just have a few hoops for HDR
oh nice, I just use Kodi inside the house so everything just direct plays
but had to upgrade everyting to support it 😛
clever mortar
I was using my E3 Xeon to transcode, but it runs FreeBSD, and the latest updates of Handbrake don't play nice, so I'm back to transcoding on an i3
I wanted devices that had built in players, so I didn't have to scatter PCs around, or teach the family how to use things
Being able to just hit a button and start Plex has been a big hit
shy comet
yea that is true. i usualy just buy a fire stick
clever mortar
One day I'll investigate the FreeBSD issue, but we buy only one or two BR disks a month, so it's not like it's an issue
shy comet
but yea n eed to make t hings easy on teh family for sure lol
clever mortar
My wife is non-technical, so I have to make things easy
Which has been interesting, building all the automations around the house
shy comet
yup same here everything needs to be made easy and just works....but mine actually likes technolgoy so I get feedback when she wants things improved lol
clever mortar
Oh, I get feedback
shy comet
i woudlnt have bought a harmony hub if it wasnt for my wife !
clever mortar
I get told what's not working - though as I've addressed each of those, the rate of complaints has gone down
shy comet
yup, you have to be on top of issues so they enjoy it with you
clever mortar
Amusingly, we were visiting friends the other day, and when we left she commented how she'd hate to go back to having to turn lights on and off manually again
shy comet
lmao!!!!
clever mortar
A complete turn around from "WTF are you doing" a year ago
shy comet
haha that is true
yea my wife hated TTS at fisrt and now she asks me to set TTS reminders for her
clever mortar
Which is good, as it now means I've got approval to start planning the bigger stuff, that involves running neutral wires to all the light switches
And yeah, getting the Google Home Minis in has been well received
Voice control, and TTS
Need another sale so I can buy a handful more at reasonable prices 😃
clever mortar
In the US, yeah, not in the UK currently
clever mortar
But it'll go back on sale, or Sonos will get their act together and release support in the Sonos One, and I'll upgrade my Play:1 units
shy comet
yea im surprised they didnt just leave the minis at $30 all year round
we shoudl be getting pricing wars between Amazon and Google....not feature snipping wars lol
clever mortar
Yeah, that's just being silly
And while Apple are far behind with their unit, if Amazon and Google aren't careful they'll lose a big slice of the market while they're having their spat
shy comet
yup exactly, its funny though the spat just recently came to light but amazon never sold chromecast for years since they annonced the Fire devices so its been going for over a year at least
brisk light
looking for some ideas here. I can be a lazy (i mean efficient) and sometimes when I go to bed, i forget to turn turn off my soundbar that is connected to my desktop. If i dont turn it off or mute the computer, i hear loud dings from incoming emails, etc. Can easily be heard from my bedroom across the hall. Anyway, im thinking i can setup some automation to do it within HA. Now the question is, how do i interface with it. I dont really want to go through the trouble of setting up an ssh users, figuring out how to restrict its access to audio only, etc. Thats the cheapest route. The other idea is to simply use one of my smart switches on the power to the soundbar. Im open to other ideas.
brisk light
nvm, i guess there is a simple way to restrict access for an ssh key
shy comet
ok this gave me a good laugh....dog automation: https://www.reddit.com/r/homeautomation/comments/7vxa4v/proof_of_concept_in_dog_automation/
brisk light
ha ha
wraith temple
anyone good with tasmota firmware? if i need to invert the output of a sensor from high to low (there is no inverted switch option) going to an ESP8266
manic ravine
brisk light
@manic ravine i found out you can simply set a specific command in the authorized_keys file that a key can run. pretty cool and simple
so i setup an applescript that simply toggles mute and the ssh command runs it
the only thing that stinks is its not really aware of current state. not a big deal though
i still dont get how someone gets yweather to look like this https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/29807944/33942861-4821340e-dfe5-11e7-94b1-25c1868af732.png
people act like its that way out of the box
but i cant get anything like that
worn tulip
so I can SSH into my PI and also put it to console mode, but can't get it to GUI mode, probably after apt-get update
halllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllp
consider upload my ha files and fresh install
trim cliff
Much Better. 😃
last cradle
@trim cliff overachiever
trim cliff
~ccostan
velvet horizonBOT
Home Assistant configuration files (YAMLs) [https://github.com/CCOSTAN/Home-AssistantConfig]
Be sure to visit my repo so you can keep up to date on the daily progress!
trim cliff
haha. 😃
last cradle
Lol
light trout
It's cool posting in #cloud-archived Off topic messages will be deleted.
solar zodiac
hi, anyone knows if notepad++ have a github integration? i want to updating my files direclty to the git. how i can do this?
last cradle
I would imagine it does. I use VSCode and it does and I know Atom does as well
solar zodiac
atomic vscode is more easy that atom?
last cradle
I think so
solar zodiac
did you know where i can find the tutorial for i do that?
last cradle
I just stasrted playing with it until I figured it out
trim cliff
anyone have any suggetion for powered wireless outdoor cameras? I have Power but no ethernet.
last cradle
Wanscam, Foscam
shy comet
and what about with PTZ?? 😃
those are hard to find for a low price. most are expensive
last cradle
he didn't say cheap
shy comet
true but outdoor wireless ptz are hard to find in general though
last cradle
@trim cliff exactly like that
trim cliff
@last cradle Do you have them?
last cradle
No but Foscam makes a great cam. Out of my budget lol
last cradle
That one actually not priced too bad though. Might have to consider it for the front door
shy comet
its only 720p but they ahve 1080p ones....they also send out coupon codes almost daily
trim cliff
are these specs good? http://amzn.to/2H5mla7
shy comet
arent foscam and amcrest nearly similar? i thought one was the other before right?
trim cliff
so many frigging choices..
shy comet
i know!!
trim cliff
Is 720p good enough?
shy comet
mine is in the garage but picture quality is decent for 720p
i dont know how well it will perform in direct sunlight though
some of my ring videos start washed out and that is 720p facing the street
last cradle
I bought a few of these http://amzn.to/2H4lNkM back in 2014 for about $11 each on Amazon Warehouse Deals. I am considering replacing them with these http://amzn.to/2Catbrk this year
dull chasm
I guess somebody didnt like my over achievers remark it got deleted
last cradle
@dull chasm I guess not lol
dull chasm
yea no doubt I thought it was funny .... gotta have a sense of humor
trim cliff
@dull chasm all you have to do is look in #cloud-archived to find it.
dull chasm
@trim cliff yea i got lost
light trout
"Best is subjective and entirely depends on what you want." ~Tinkerer 2018 💯
clever mortar
I'm a little fed up with people always wanting "the best" without any reference as to what that is.
When I'm feeling snarky I'll usually suggest something horribly expensive, or highly complex - because surely that indicates "best" 🤣
light trout
Added difficulty or cost = Better solution 💯
peak cloud
@dim ginkgo > "I've also wondered about the diamonds. Anyone can add it to their own name, so I wasn't sure if it has any meaning, or just a trend people do for fun"
Only mods are allowed to manage nicknames on our server.
vast dove
@peak cloud but i guess people could change their nick to include a diamond before joining 😛 ?
peak cloud
@vast dove Yes, and it will likely be removed by one of our mods if it they are not recognized as a top contributor.
vast dove
true
light trout
🔸 @last cradle You can add an icon to the start of every post to "buypass" it 😛
last cradle
Lol
light trout
🔸 it works, kinda 😛
last cradle
If by "kinda", you mean "not really", then absolutely
light trout
🔸 yes 😛
last cradle
Ok good
dim ginkgo
Not at all if you're using the default layout 😛
dull chasm
damn i see a ban hammer
worn tulip
for so long samba share didn't work and left it
file sharing is off in windows
I jumped out the window
profit.
last cradle
I see it like overload does. That's why I said not really lol
@dim ginkgo how is the Alexa/Plex integration going? I know they started working with you on it but stopped following it when I switched to Google home
dim ginkgo
It released! About a year ago now
I worked with them for quite a while on it, but no longer 😃
last cradle
Awesome!
cerulean totem
@dull chasm new pieces on alarm system for home State panel
charred meteor
Does anyone else have a problem with systemmonitor? Now sure if it is after update but only last reboot sensor is available https://hastebin.com/ecerimiyer.scala
sick prairie
@charred meteor they have simply been renamed, see the breaking changes section of the release notes
charred meteor
@sick prairie thanks!
distant cargo
@midnight adder The things I'd do to your udev 🙈
trigger:
platform: climate
entity_id: outside
above: -1
action:
service: switch.turn_on
entity_id: grill
yeah thats me. @distant cargo the overarchiever
Head on over to whisper, then I'll smear xml all over you
Yeah; I married one
Oh wait, that's a girl
That depends on her sensor.stomache.hungrynesslevel
hey @midnight adder, judgin by your avatar you like docker?
Have you, like ever, attempted to actually use Docker on Windows?
I'll steal that one. Absolutely
I have to admit, I don't really like docker. At least when you're using it for packing software that runs anything ment for prod. For CI / DevOps it's pretty amazing stuff though.
Well my knowledge on docker is limited, I've been dodging it succesfully for years now.
But why use it over, say, lxc?
Welp. I'm struggling. Might be because I'm retarded. Might be because I'm getting old.
So at work our devs use the shit out of docker, right?
Dumping docker on everything, their toasters, dogs, mother, you name it.
I've been giving the unthankable task doing a sec audit. Just to get a general feeling of how we're doing.
Everything's going suprisingly fine. The I hit that one machine
And my audit tool lights up like a fucking christmas tree.
I'm talking CVEs left and right. Ancient ones, too.
So I SSH into that machine. BUT no signs of compromise, so thank god for that.
I upgrade everything on that machine. Reqeue for audit. Same result.
netstat -tulpen it is. Docker.
Turns out one dickwad scp'ed some binaries onto that machine, then ran a dockerized webserver using god know what image.
And it didn't get updated. Not once. In it's entire lifetime.
So correct me if I'm mistaken
You have one set of bins (libs etc) on your machine. Then you start an docker image. The stuff executed within the container uses the binaries that got pulled with the image. Right?
Rancher looks awesome btw
That's pretty cool stuff. BUT, how do you cope with patch management?
Okay, I see. So in order to keep up to date you just have to re-run your container?
gritty mesa
solar zodiac
Hello anyone use vscode with github integration?
distant cargo
@Rodolfo Vieira#4283 I just use plain git. Workshop fine with git.
😂 *Works fine with github
drowsy garden
I use "platform: systemmonitor" to show Prosessor use on my Pi3. It is making a backup-file, but it takes very long time. What is "Load (5m)" meassure, and what is the unit?
Processor use: 33 %
Load (5m): 1.60302734375
trim cliff
Hot off the presses : http://www.vmwareinfo.com/2018/02/journey-to-docker.html
shy comet
wow i7 😄 niiiiiice
shy comet
@trim cliff what version of ubuntu server did you end up installing?
trim cliff
Ubuntu Server 17.10.1 - https://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
dry cairn
trail crag
@trim cliff what did emulated hue have to do with moving to docker? Was it a network issue?
trim cliff
Network. Laptop was only wireless and Emulated_hue ONLY worked via Hardwire for me. @trail crag
worn tulip
so I bought couple of E27 smart bulbs but I have a hard time deciding how I should use them... I thought about 3D printing but the quality might lack (visually), neat ideas or projects?
pure vine
pure vine
Although based on twitter threads, Lunduke seems to be acting as a hypocrite about this
oblique nymph
anyone know of a windows program that will dim a single monitor?
I have dual montiors and playing video games with a bright second monitor is getting annoying
fallen fox
@oblique nymph I looked at this a while back and didn't come up with anything. I ended up using a dark wallpaper to make it easier on the eyes.
oblique nymph
yeah I've been doing that to get by. Amazing that this isn't a thing. 🤔
fallen fox
A TP Link outlet in HASS would do the trick!
patent parrot
@oblique nymph I use F.lux https://justgetflux.com/
pure vine
@oblique nymph I have a program called lightbulb that disables its self when your using a full screen app like a game https://github.com/Tyrrrz/LightBulb/blob/master/ReadMe.md
oblique nymph
@Bonfire#9735 @fallen fox @pure vine I figured out a way to do it with Rainmeter. Had to make my own skin but now I can just toggle it on and off when I need it - if you're interested let me know
Also when I do need to move my mouse over to the screen, like between games, the dim goes away when I mouse over
pure vine
Anyone here use a 6to4 tunnel
pure vine
I just realised this, due to the near ubiquity of contactless payment in the UK I can just walk to my local shop without my wallet
patent parrot
yeah? is this not the same with other countries
i just carry my phone with contactless
pure vine
Most probably
worn tulip
little newb question... anyone knows what's the sign next to 4.5 quantity? radius? circumference?
clever mortar
Diameter
quiet tulip
@shy comet what do you run your media setup on? may I ask for the full stack briefly? I'm trying to reorg my setup at home, I've got a spare Inspiron desktop and a spare rPi2b
shy comet
well im a quality nut so i have a pretty odd setup lol
quiet tulip
okay!
shy comet
i have a main HTPC taht i use as my plex server and also as my Kodi mysql server
thats wher all my media is stored and served
i have another PC where SABnzbd sits and does all the downloading and processing
i had to set this up as i found that when I am downloading a 20GB file and watching a 20GB file there is too much stuttering
i also needed to make sure sonarr/radarr and the other webapps existed on a separate machine as well
those would be unusable in the web interface wehn SAB ws doing its thing
every PC is also an i5 lol
everthing is also windows with the exception of the hass server
in terms of plex apps im using Organizr so i have 1 site with everything and it has some neat SSO stuff....Ombi for requests...Plexpy for stats, sonarr/radarr/mylar and lazylibrarian for media management
quiet tulip
Gotcha. That answered almost all of my questions! I'm not gonna run any media software on the rpi then. I'll make the rPi PiVPN and PiHole, with the Inspiron being my entry point for my array of HDs I guess
im taking notes lol
shy comet
you could probably get away with light stuff like sonarr/radarr
oh also.....im using SSD's wherever i can
that helped with the extraction process and plex's database is a bit quicker now too as a result
quiet tulip
10-4. I just upgraded to a 4k in the living room, and my bottleneck was my router and HDs for a bit
shy comet
well my HTPC is plugged in directy to the TV so that got rid of any networked bottlenecks
but i did upgrade the router to handle all the video streams we do
quiet tulip
omg
duh
I just need a new video card for the Inspiron and I can do the same, the 1gig switch is right next to the TV
shy comet
but yea i needed to do several upgrades to get 4k HDR to work properly
yea i have a i5 kaby lake and a GTX1050 lol
quiet tulip
that was my final question, I'm searching for a prebuilt to game and render on lol
the market hurts right now
$1300 for anything remotely close to what I need/want
shy comet
i save gaming for teh xbox lol
you know last year i found out htat Acer computers are actually very good
quiet tulip
I'm torn there 😦 I have the OG XB1 but Fortnite and PUBG run awful
quiet tulip
ah yes, I've got an Acer ubuntu laptop
it had a .doc with links to linux dual boot guides when I got it from microsoft.com lol
shy comet
ah ya i got a xbox 1 s for the bluray player...held me over until they finally cracked AACS
lol
shy comet
but yea sonarr and radarr have improved GREATLY over time
soooo whose going to see Black Panther tonight?
gloomy canyon
what makes plex better than kodi?
shy comet
@gloomy canyon its perfect for outside the house and low powered devices that cant play all media types
it does on the fly transcoding so just about any device can play any media file
you can also adjust the bandwidth you are using and reduce the quality
i was able to stream movies from my house in los angeles to my hotel in Mumbai when I was there for work lol
for us we use kodi inside the house since we dont need the decision making process of transocding....we use plex for everything outside the house
last cradle
Does docker compose automatically perform a pull of latest versions when bringing it down and back up?
worn tulip
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh want to upload .ino to nodemcu and failing sometimes at 87% or 58%
couple of times already
pure vine
@cvoid#4858 there is also a plugin for normal kodi
shy comet
yup that will also force direct play of titles 😃
worn tulip
so only when I lower LED brightness I can control the right color
means I should get better PSU, right?
compact swift
Hi i bought the Ikea TradFRI gateway an buttons etc. HA discovers the gateway and asks me for the security code. When i enter the code and click confirm nothing happens. in de homeassistant.log i see the following, Who can help ? THanks (tried factory reset of the gateway. update HA )
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clever mortar
(and now don't forget to delete the code wall 😉 )
Also, try #general-archived for help - you might want to read the channel descriptions, which tell you what's relevant in each channel
tough igloo
Anyone know of some good zigbee bulb suppliers in Australia - specifically e14?
pure vine
Is anyone tracking their pets with home assistant
with like a Lora device or other connection method
shy comet
@pure vine i was considering doing this. I may try a BT tracker or something not really sure but I can see it being useful for the dogs. My cats definitely won't let me keep anything like that on them lol
I know Xiaomi makes some BT trackers and we can use the BT device tracker component to track them
last cradle
I like that idea!! And I've been trying to find an excuse to get into Lora. The cats are my answer so my wife won't give me grief
shy comet
ah GPS....not sure if that will connect to HA but maybe someting like Tile or Trackr would work too
pure vine
You could write a TTN To Owntracks adapter
clever mortar
So, my personal view on cloud (following on from #330944238910963714) is that:
- It's on a par or cheaper than the commercial options own cloud offerings
- Unlike the commercial offerings, it does nothing you can't do by following instructions
worn tulip
Don't get me wrong, I will use it to support this
clever mortar
The great thing about cloud is that you're not forced, or even required, to use it. It just makes it quicker and easier to achieve integration with Alexa/Google
odd mason
if i did use alexa or google home, $5/mo is really a pittance compared to the amount of money some of our automation devices cost
worn tulip
I'm lucky enough to have enough money to pay $5/mo and even more, just always think about others
odd mason
well like all things this is an investment. If one can invest money into home automation devices then one can afford $5/mo to help support the community that makes it easy for one to do things one wants to do
i really want a donate button on the website to be honest
i don't use the cloud and won't subscribe to it but I'd like to donate
I don't see one on the website
worn tulip
they probably have their reasons
clever mortar
Because donations are sporadic and they can't depend on them
Makes it impossible to plan things
midnight adder
snips is great
odd mason
Np. There's a discord server for it too. Been using it for months and it's fantastic
shy comet
personally I think as long as they continue to offer the service for free I am fully on board with charging to make certain things easier. Especially if we are supporting servers then I can definitely see why a monthly donation is better fit. True the simplicity of the cloud is extremely diserable most people who really want free things will go the extra mile to make it free. Most of the new people to home assistant are people who never used a raspberry pi and I think the cloud is really meant for them just like hassio. Most people who never used a pi probably don't know how to open router ports or even obtain an SSL.
gusty owl
@odd mason I have Google Home and Alexa (just as toys, I don't use them often, really, except to play music when I'm cooking) but I love the configurability of it... and that it's LOCAL.
shy comet
Hell even telling people to get a raspberry pi is probably a turn off to some in itself
odd mason
@gusty owl my next project is to take things that snips doesn't understand and forward them to Alexa to answer. This way you get the best of both worlds. Local private listening with the extensive knowledge of Alexa.
@shy comet idk how people use HA without opening ports and SSL. I couldn't use it if I couldn't control it from anywhere
gusty owl
@shy comet true. If HASS really wanted to earn some $$$ they'd make an "off the shelf" product ready to go. Which is basically what hass.io is the beginning of. But config files and YAML and all of that is just too much for the "Wink Hub" user to deal with. Once HASS gets "apps" that are installable and configurable through the UI, and once modules are installable through the UI... it'll be much closer to something that could be sold "off the shelf".
shy comet
@odd mason ditto....every web service i run at home needs to be accessible outside lol
@gusty owl if you take a look at github there is a PR for a Config Manager coming up.....really shows the great direction things are heading when you look at the bigger picture
gusty owl
@odd mason oddly... my HASS is not exposed to the outside world. I have a home VPN I use if I need to access HASS myself... but... I have no external services that need to connect to it. The one exception is that MQTT is exposed so that OwnTracks can update my location. What else do you use that requires external access? Maybe you have something I "need"? 😃
odd mason
I didn't go the VPN route but sometimes I want to be able to turn stuff on/off when I'm not at home and things like that. Honestly sometimes I just like opening up the app and looking at how glorious it is while ignoring the amount of money I've sank into devices.
shy comet
oh and Dokuwiki.....because yes the house needs a wiki as it grows 😛
gusty owl
@shy comet that's awesome. SmartThings isn't the best... and there are not enough things that can be controlled "locally" but... their apps feature is quite nice, the community is huge, and a surprisingly large number of people are willing to cut and paste code into a web browser, as long as they don't have to edit a config file or pop open a terminal window.
shy comet
yea until you realize taht every single piece of code runs on the cloud
i was using smart alarm and didnt realize that my alarm was cloud based
gusty owl
@shy comet right. they have a few things that are local now. But... it's VERY few.
shy comet
😖
gusty owl
@odd mason yeah... I could never get into Groovy/Java. I love NodeJS. I can tolerate Python. I enjoy Ruby from time to time. But Groovy/Java just doesn't jive with me well.
shy comet
@gusty owl yup they do but you not only need a local device but also a local automation for it to work properly
gusty owl
@shy comet yup... and the local automations are even fewer. Even something that should be trivial... like... a wemo switch.... not local.
shy comet
yea for me, what sold me on HA was my unique situation at the time lol
I was about to go on vacation to Nicaragua and my internet went out
1/2 my hosue stopped working
odd mason
I'm a ruby dev so python makes sense. I can even tolerate Java but groovy...ugh
shy comet
wasnt even a ST issue was literally internet
gusty owl
@shy comet LOL! that's no good.
shy comet
definite eye opener when your scrambling to get things up and running lol
also it completely changed how I use my harmony hub now
no more only dealing with activities
gusty owl
@odd mason yeah... python is decent. I can NEVER remember to include (self) as the first parameter when writing a new class method. And the whole whitespace thing drives me nuts. But... it's just one of those things where I make a mistake, I run it, I see the error, I "DOH!", I fix it, and I move on. Not a big deal. And it's just that I don't write enough Python for it to really stick. Sadly... my "day job" is mostly PHP... which... I loathe (though... not as much as Groovy... lol).
odd mason
Haha yup
shy comet
haha im a QA guy so I'm usually messing with selenium
gusty owl
@shy comet I've never played with it. You like it?
shy comet
@gusty owl yup works very very well and saves so much time from manual testing
When i started at this company they had 0 automation
had to implement it from scratch and train people on how to use it
basically had to give minor java classes lol
gusty owl
oh my! I hope they were at least slightly technical people. haha.
shy comet
yea the challenge was that we just started to have a larger team in Mumbai so we had to train them over the phone and webex
gusty owl
oh. my. god. I would quit. lol.
shy comet
lol
clever mortar
Any culture barrier can make remote training fun - having done remote training for folks in many other English speaking countries before
Learning the "quirks" about the culture can help - like when you discover that certain cultures will never say they don't understand...
gusty owl
@clever mortar right?! I mean... remote training is hard enough. Culture barriers are hard, too. Language barriers are also hard. And, @shy comet 's situation was... all three. Ha!
shy comet
@clever mortar exactly! I actually discovered that my colleagues did not like to share bad news. Had to keep speaking up about issues until they did the same
clever mortar
Yeah. My first time doing that was, if I'm honest, a disaster
I learned a lot about working across cultures in the aftermath of that one
shy comet
Yea its definitely something that only comes with practice especially when English isn't their first language
odd mason
@shy comet you're an automation engineer?
shy comet
@odd mason yup, self taught for the most part but took several classes as well
odd mason
lol me too...but we do a lot of framework development so i just call myself a dev
all i do is write code anyways
shy comet
haha yea I consider myself more QA since we still do a lot of manual testing....honestly it will take years for us to automate all that we do
like our automation focus for now has been more on the happy path
odd mason
i did manual testing for about 6 months when i first started in the industry...took me that long to realize "there has to be a better way to do this"
shy comet
yea I kept talking about it and talking about it and I was told to just pick it up and learn
We kept trying to go to an Agile approach but its like gusy without automation we will never achieve it
I am also a certified scrum master 😃
odd mason
yea it's rough in the beginning...i'm glad i'm at a company where we do thing the right way (for the most part)
last plaza
@shy comet @odd mason what tools do you guys use for your automated testing? our test automation setup is crazy... Combination of Gherkin, Cucumber, Ruby, Selenium...and more!
odd mason
@last plaza all those things
shy comet
wow!!!!
last plaza
I don't write code at work, but I know of those - I like Ruby
odd mason
the team i'm on now our main stack is cucumber/stir (a lib I wrote to do api testing), and activerecord for db things
shy comet
Umm we have lol.....Selenium, Jenkins, TestNG, ExtentReports
we are also using Java as our language for selenium
odd mason
https://github.com/manheim/stir (if you're looking for a good library to do API testing)
it makes API testing more page-object like
shy comet
started with PHP to reduce overhead but switched to Java since we couldnt leverage PHP like we could with Java
shy comet
we hired an engineer who wrote us our own framework