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tall garnet
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Mr. Jeff Bazos after remotely bricking my kindle that was working for 14 long years:

static schooner
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How to impersonate a federal agent

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be careful or they'll throw you in FBI Van 37

warm helm
static schooner
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now we all know that you're a govt agent

warm helm
static schooner
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only knowing Wallace Shawn for goofy roles like that, watching him in My Dinner with Andre was a shock

grizzled gull
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I need to find motivation to setup my new networking stuff I spent so much money for :/ It would be easy if I just did it the easy way(no vlans no QoS etc), but then why did I by all these managed switches :/ ADHD/ASD procrastination at its best

lavish badger
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No smart thermostat to already provide that data?

exotic yoke
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i looked into it but i dont think a plug and play one exists

lavish badger
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I actually need to see if Sensi provides ambient humidity. The sensor exists, you can see it on the display

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Really? The color coding on the back looks standard. It's a bit more complex than usual "Heat, Cool, Fan, Common" but certainly not anything custom.

shrewd pawn
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Hey everyone! ๐Ÿ‘‹
Iโ€™m working on a small Home Assistantโ€“related project and I wanted to check first:
Is it okay to share a post about my project here, or should I post it in a different channel?Just want to make sure I follow the server rules. Thanks!

static schooner
shrewd pawn
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Thnx for the Quick reply I Will post my project there ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

silver ginkgo
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hey friends, I am moving in like 6 weeks and I'd like to start thinking about starting from the ground up in home automation. I have a few things decided:

  • Using Home Assistant Green or maybe just kicking it into future proof mode with A Beelink N150 with HA flashed on.
  • I want to start with smart switches throughout. I think I'm going with Inovelli blue or Caseta lights, but not decided. I cannot for the life of me figure out what can lights I should use. I prefer warm light but I'd like them to be dimmable and warmable using just the switches.
  • Tell me what other things I should start with

Networking advice also appreciated ๐Ÿ™‚

silent doveBOT
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The topic of this channel is:

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silver ginkgo
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Sick, hello fellow community members, I'll take my business to the appropriate chat

dusty mica
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lovely

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67 hardware / configuration

warm helm
dusty mica
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juggling titties?

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boingboing

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mine's are calm atm

lavish badger
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Your titties are?

hollow glacier
exotic yoke
exotic yoke
lavish badger
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Huh. Interesting.

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I'd see if you can find the labeled on the terminals like you have in your photo and see if any smart ones match that.

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Then it's just down to programming if they match

exotic yoke
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cause yeah its a fan coil unit not a proper hvac thing, building-wide and such

lavish badger
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I wonder if it just opens solenoids and turns on fans

unborn merlin
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hvac stuff is accursed.

exotic yoke
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ah beans i think the 8575 which is the one this guy has IS 24v

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yeah fuck its different, this guy has C (24V) i have N (no clue)

unborn merlin
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thats probably 24VAC logic

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which is a pain in the fucking ass ๐Ÿ˜„

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i did actually make a board for this I just need to actually uhh.. finish its build/test.. and probably make another version with less pain in my ass connectors tbh.

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because you think its 24vac..

But its actually more like 28vac in some places because get bent we can't have transformers actually output what they say.

hollow glacier
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it was a post about him logging in to an insecure mqtt server and having it switch his entity names to "change your mqtt password" and toggling his lights on and off every 5 minutes lol

static schooner
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a lot of the followup comments were about how illegal and undesirable it was, so I guess pulling it down was the right call

warm helm
atomic delta
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As a mod in another server, I prefer to be thought of as a necessity. Neither good nor bad, just required by mostly idiots.

atomic delta
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New gas chip arrived. It's beautiful.

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Not sure if the Hydrogen and Methane sensors haven't picked anything up or haven't initialized yet. I'll have to go fart on it.

sturdy gust
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Which one did you get? I've been meaning to try one out.

atomic delta
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Purely because it was stupidly easy to integrate into esphome and I'm lazy

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There are others with the same name that are cheaper. They're not the same.

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Oh, and the ones labeled SCD41 are an SCD41. I highly recommend it.

sturdy gust
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Easy integration with HA is basically how I choose products these days.

atomic delta
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It was basically plug and play.

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I mean, as much as esphome is

stuck mortar
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You should ask it how to file a complaint about raccoon discrimination

high remnant
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Rock is this true?

glacial knot
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Gob'lin dn

upbeat oak
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When a single spelling mistake potentially broke all your code.... ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ

glacial knot
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Compilers help. A lot rooComfy

solar zealot
atomic delta
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Well this is awkward. My new gas sensor is saying there's a toxic level of methane in my kitchen, and I don't know how to verify or refute that

iron granite
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If you die in your kitchen, the sensor was right.

atomic delta
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Toxic is 1/50th explosive

iron granite
atomic delta
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Though maybe burning a candle for a bit would change the concentration

scenic radish
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Too many farts

atomic delta
scenic radish
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Which reminds me, in Borderlands 3, this happens if you stand by it long enough lol

atomic delta
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Classy

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You hear the new steam controller will Wilhelm scream using the haptics if you drop it?

atomic delta
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Lol

warm helm
scenic radish
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or even just one of those 7-day pill things unless you don't trust yourself to load it weekly

grizzled gull
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I always thought of coming up with a sticker that reacted to pressure or temp that changed color for like 12 hours(if meds were BID) or 24 hours if QD

stuck mortar
warm helm
lone dagger
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30

glacial knot
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what?

warm helm
glacial knot
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yea

hallow fossil
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my problem is that I'm an old man and I have to take too many pills. It takes a solid several minutes to refill the organizer, and "I'll do it later" becomes "I'll do it tomorrow" as I (hopefully) pull out my pills individually and take them.

fierce verge
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Who knew playing Mancala in after school recreation as a kid would be foreshadowing later in life. That's what I think of each week.

hollow glacier
hollow glacier
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atomic delta
alpine drum
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Quick sanity check for the room, Im reinstalling HA with a new house move and considering upgrading from a pi 4 to pi 5. Ive got about 80 devices ATM, and I'd like to do more local voice assistant integration I'm the future. Is the pi 5 overkill for this?

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The pi 5 is sitting on my drawer doing nothing so I figured this was a better use

static schooner
grizzled gull
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Probably not though I dunno?

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I haven't played with voice on a low power device, not sure if it can even do it reasonably

tired current
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Has anyone hacked support at all for the nest 2nd gen thermostats at all? I am getting home assistant setup again and would like to see if it possible until I can buy an ecobee or something.

last cedar
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Good think it will remember to make no mistakes though

urban viperBOT
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If you're interested in helping us out, the IFA volunteer interest form has a few more details for you, including responsibilities and expectations. ๐Ÿ‘€

solar zealot
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Berlin mentioned owoHyper

lapis pike
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whoever added shelly firmware updates to HASS i love you

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thats all <3

indigo dragon
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Am I crazy or is the option to have a specific dashboard per device gone? I used to have one for my phone but it just goes to the overview page now I cant find the setting to change it back

static schooner
indigo dragon
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Thanks

tidal bronze
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@forest edge you alive?

unborn merlin
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why, are we wanting the daily dose of unhinged boomer?

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maybe he ran out of gas away from home. ๐Ÿ™ƒ

forest edge
tidal bronze
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Lol been awesome man, burning through tokens, soon I will be trading BTC for tokens.

forest edge
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ai tokens?

tidal bronze
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Yep just 1 provider, I do have a problem

forest edge
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wtf could you be doing to use that much?

tidal bronze
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I ask myself the same question. I think I am same on about 6 providers.

forest edge
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you ask yourself? you sleep sex chatting up thge ai and not remember it?

tidal bronze
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Nah man building something an got too deep into it.

warm helm
forest edge
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"hey Gemini does zero carb really taste good and everyone else is just crazy for thinking it's gross?"

tidal bronze
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Zero carb is the way!

forest edge
warm helm
static schooner
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Ms. Pac-Man good?

forest edge
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@static schoonerhow the whisker breaking weights through the intergration been for ya?

static schooner
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Did it do that? Seems to be working fine for me

forest edge
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according to git it was a backend thing on thier end so the HA intergration shouldn't be working for anyone

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the weight part

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everything else works fine

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didnt know if you were tracking weights through it like I was so thought i'd ask lol

static schooner
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Mine seems to be working fine

forest edge
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interesting

static schooner
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I track all my cats' weights

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It's possible that I just haven't noticed them updating. They're not broken

forest edge
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yea

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i have a history chart card on my dashboard.. all the cat weights look like a flat line since earlier this month lol

static schooner
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They seem about what I expect and roughly equivalent to the app

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Oh, ok

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I just hadn't noticed

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I notice when the integration can't log in or fails to report stats

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๐Ÿคท

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I mean, I want to be outraged, but I lack the evidence and justification

forest edge
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thats weird. cache not updated for you? how can it be "backend" issue according to the dev if you were not impacted

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wait. you buy stuff from whisker like liners or litter right?

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I wonder if your account go some special flag lol

static schooner
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I get my litter from them

forest edge
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subscription customers get backup api access lol

static schooner
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Got me

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I just wish they'd release the hopper for the 5 already. Now two cats are using the 3 that doesn't track weight

forest edge
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you bought the 5?

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should be protesting that thing

static schooner
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No, not until they release the hopper

forest edge
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whicker is quickly heading down the path of bad greed

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I been looking at alternatives

static schooner
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They don't lock you into supplies, which I like

forest edge
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not yet

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once I started seeing the LR's at like petsmart and walmart I knew it was going to get ugly

exotic yoke
# static schooner

my scale for myself decided to appear on my network and autodiscover by HA so my weight is in HA now lol

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small automation im proud of: my apartments AC isnt perfect so when i detect the temperature gets too hot, i turn off the dehumidifer and close the blinds, just to manage it better, esp if im asleep or something

ocean oar
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Anal-retentive climate control micromanagement is one of my primary uses ๐Ÿ˜„

exotic yoke
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sorry its what type of climate control micromanagemnt

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sadly cant install a smart thermostat, not anywhere near easily, cause my apt has this bizarre semi custom fan coil manager thing ugh

unborn merlin
exotic yoke
unborn merlin
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more limiting tends to be the lack of the proper goddamn wires ๐Ÿ˜„

solar zealot
robust flicker
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When your day is dragging because everything seems to be working like it's supposed to for once....

near reef
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i have a master key for filing cabinets at work

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it's literally just a jumbo paper clip

ebon mesa
hollow glacier
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Mods are asleep this is now a water cooled pc channel

peak slate
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I have a radiator, but it's not in a PC, does that still count

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It's a water cooler nonetheless

high remnant
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I just put my pc in water

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waterboarding it

quasi breach
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just had a MYGGBETT door sensor die on me

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it survived just long enough for it to be paired into my thread network

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then it immediately died

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off to ikea returns department I guess

ocean oar
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Ok sure, attach the picture twice, whatever discord

ocean oar
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Hilariously, there actually are some in the heat exchanger, but that's inside the building.

iron granite
stuck mortar
exotic yoke
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finally actually using my Fedora install to develop HA, doing it in wsl was miserable

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this should be the easiest fork ever, my switchbot curtain 3 has a device setting for the speed, i want to make that into an entity so i can control it automaticlaly, its so shrimple

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famous last words

golden wing
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i haven't been a technician for a little while now but these were the primary water cooled servers i worked on

static schooner
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seems like it would be easier to just flood the building

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with cool water

golden wing
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i'm sure technician pay would go up if they had to be scuba certified as well

exotic yoke
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im TRYING to ADD updates and support

static schooner
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seems like you should install a supported installation method

exotic yoke
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๐Ÿ˜ญ im trying to develop HA rn

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this is how youre supposed to do that

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this is utterly baffling, speed is literally built in variable per open/close event and yet its a config option and not an entity

static schooner
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This would be good in the dev channels

exotic yoke
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fair

unborn merlin
unborn merlin
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server from work I'm finally getting about to try and RMA the bad cpu in.. its probably one of those bad 13900k's

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idly check its raam price on ebay right now and--

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motherfucking holy shit its 700$/stick and it has two sticks.. god fuck sam altman

last cedar
quasi breach
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Held up by cardboard (this door opens in both directions)

unborn merlin
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๐Ÿ™ƒ

thorny heron
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My partner also needs a laptop and we can't get her one since 50% of the price would be memory

thorny heron
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I ain't doing the support for a Macbook

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Had one for work and promptly ( 2 days ) replaced it with a windows machine

warm helm
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I mean, windows causing me so much more pain

thorny heron
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I cannot possibly see how ๐Ÿ˜›

But honestly, i would say the same about MacOs X hahaha

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The lady at the store asked me for a return reason, I just said: this is not for me

quasi breach
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Have this chime box but I don't actually have a door bell, what should I do with it?

warm helm
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I run linux everywhere where I can but in the laptop space there is not a better choice than a neo at the price point

thorny heron
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Linux I run on ~10 machines here, but that's infrastructure

thorny heron
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Often you have groups in cities for this purpose.

I'm in a few for Montrรฉal, on facebook, and regularly give away my old unused electronics there.
People are happy to come pickup

unborn merlin
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i really doubt that anyone is gonna care for an ancient door buzzer..

quasi breach
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I bought this one just for fun lol I want something fun to do with it

thorny heron
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I have away a broken battery 2 days ago

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two people wanted it

quasi breach
unborn merlin
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its using the same tech as the ancient stuff.. its ancient. ๐Ÿ˜„

thorny heron
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Many people are not as wealthy and would love a free object to thinker with.

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That's a very privileged thing to say ๐Ÿ˜›

Not all can afford new stuff

quasi breach
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Person at the store gave me a weird look when I bought it

unborn merlin
thorny heron
quasi breach
thorny heron
unborn merlin
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he was right to give you a look.

unborn merlin
thorny heron
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Nah, I think I fit right in ๐Ÿ˜›

quasi breach
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I mean it was pretty cheap (110twd or ~4usd)

thorny heron
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4USD is 3 meals

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More in many places

quasi breach
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Not here

unborn merlin
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hey that's--- not even a gallon of gas

thorny heron
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Rice is,in no way, over 2$ usd for a pound

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And if so... Damn... America be fucked haha

quasi breach
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Idk why one would need such high powered door bell but

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(Yes this damn thing draws 1.6A at 110V)

unborn merlin
thorny heron
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Damn...I always assumed those were a speaker and some electronics! TIL!

unborn merlin
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no, not even slightly.

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there's a reason I called it ancient

thorny heron
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I kinda want it now

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Just to make a retro-futuristic alert somewhere

quasi breach
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Go look on eBay or aliexpress or something you can probably find one for a very reasonable price

thorny heron
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Oh, It's not worth paying for ๐Ÿ˜› But If I come across one on the Bunz trading group I'll definitely trade something for it haha

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If i'm lucky it'll be free

unborn merlin
thorny heron
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300W is insane yeah

quasi breach
thorny heron
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Oh you're Us based as well!

unborn merlin
thorny heron
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I'm living just above them. I hope for the best ๐Ÿ˜…

quasi breach
unborn merlin
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probably also because if you're doing it constantly you're also just running the solenoid against its end stop too

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which is just of course.. generating heat

quasi breach
iron granite
unborn merlin
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not a railgun.

coilgun technically

thorny heron
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Do we really need guns in our chimes?! /s

quasi breach
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I love how point 1 of the instruction manual says to shut off power when in practice no electrician here actually follows that

iron granite
thorny heron
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@iron granite I Was about to ping the mods there

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Doing ads for bitcoin ๐Ÿ˜›

thorny heron
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Oh no. I had forgotten that guy existed until now. I can still hear it

iron granite
last cedar
ocean oar
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<@&330946878646517761>

low harness
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Done

solar leaf
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When Elevation shut off their API/servers I powered off my Curb devices and had essentially given up on them. They are back online and running locally ๐Ÿ™‚

clever solstice
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has anyone ever had issues restoring a zha backup to a new adapter? it seems to just hang at the restoring popup. been here for ~20 minutes.

silent doveBOT
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The topic of this channel is:

@clever solstice Thereโ€™s no support here - only chill. Come in, grab a drink, chat with your fellow community members! This is a space to talk to other smart home enthusiasts. If youโ€™re "just asking a question", you're asking for support. Head to https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284968640189304913 to help you find where you should post your question. No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

boreal surge
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I'm new to HA, where do I go when I feel like I'm too dumb for this? ๐Ÿ˜„

iron granite
solar zealot
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Hi cool water people

hoary hinge
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Anyone here try self hosting ntfy for webhooks?

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Or have recs?

last cedar
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Sorry, I only have raccs

hoary hinge
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Whatโ€™s that? Google search brought up a lot

hollow glacier
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<@&330946878646517761> spammer above^

scenic radish
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Gone

arctic quarry
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why does that have creepy frame interpolation

stuck mortar
quasi breach
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Definitely not over complicated doorbell control system

ocean oar
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Hey, at least it's Matter though?

pine tiger
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idk what this channel is supposed to be but i cant find a comprehensive guide like the arch wiki about homelabbing

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what do you guys recommend

iron granite
quasi breach
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I only have the bare minimum amount of IPv6 to make my matter over thread network functional

high canyon
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Man, who knew it would be so hard to purchase a door that both has some level of ventilation, but also has some level of sound reduction!

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Like, there's several places that sell them, but not in Texas

split acorn
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is aanyone else upset that the govee bulbs need to talk to telementry servers to work?

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since the goveeelan app is deprecated

covert moss
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Any cool devices that are like a mini touchscreen with buttons or a magnetic on wall with 4-10 prigrmgabble buttons so can do multi automation easily in a room / zone

Hek would be cool multi intercoms

static schooner
scenic radish
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well i've switched from Cloudflare Tunnel to Pangolin self-hosted + a VPS and I'm very satisfied so far

scenic radish
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did someone say

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TRAIN

static schooner
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Teefs of death

last cedar
atomic delta
hollow pilot
unborn merlin
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ingress without opening ports; probably.

hollow pilot
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i mean i was thinking about using it on my PC as a secured API endpoint to be called from a website like an S3 bucket for images to be loaded from my pc

fierce verge
split acorn
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lan api is deprecated ๐Ÿ™

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only the goveetomqtt or whatever one works

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and that isnt fully remote, it requires the bulbs to check in with an iot server running on aws

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much cheaper than phillips tho

hoary canyon
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Ah you mentioned bulbs, oops

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Plenty of Zigbee bulbs on the market besides Hue

scenic radish
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@hollow pilot remote access for Home Assistant and Gotify

split acorn
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ye maybe zigbee

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i needeed temp and brightness control

unborn merlin
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its annoying that govee hasn't updated all their shit to work with matter over wifi

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since its.. a fucking wifi protcol and some of their newer stuff does

hoary canyon
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companies like that annoy me.

hoary canyon
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color and temp control

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cheap also

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Less things on WiFi the better

hollow pilot
unborn merlin
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nope.

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their matter bulbs look idential to the govee ones

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bet they're made in the same fucking factory.

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๐Ÿ˜„

hollow pilot
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but the colors arent as vibrant

unborn merlin
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I got some govee ones on sale. they work for what I want

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which mostly is adjustable lights where I am.. and daylight alarm

hollow pilot
unborn merlin
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almost like humanity evolved to do that sort of thing

hollow pilot
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who tf knew lmao

zinc thunder
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Morning

weary ermine
# tired current Has anyone hacked support at all for the nest 2nd gen thermostats at all? I am g...

Yes. It works very well. The Gen 2 hardware itself is very high quality, but as we know, Google turned off its cloud server and access to the phone app. The NLE project fixes this with a new server, either use their server or self-host and be 100% local. Now that Nest Thermostats sell for <$20 on eBay, I'm using six of them, one in every room or at least that is the plan. I'm currently testing prior to deployment. Google "no longer evil" for more info

tired current
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Oh I think I've seen that project. Thanks! I can easily self host that. Will give it a go.

weary ermine
# static schooner with cool water

Seriously, at one time the most powerful computer on Earth (the Cray 2) was actually cooled by flooding. Of course, water would be bad as it would short out the electronics. They use a non-conductive, non-reactive liquid. There were bubbles used to circulate the liquid, and some techs placed plastic fish inside just for fun. The entire computer lived in a cold bath.

elder sundial
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so I recently replaced the 80 different ways I do things on my home network(homelab at this point) with consul and nomad, and my HA pi has been dying for the last year after like 7ish years of service, finally bit the bullet and migrated off HAOS on it to a nomad container job, and besides the nightmare of porting it even with the HAOS backup as the jumping off point, I'm really liking the new setup, way faster, less errors, and it has the system resources to run much heavier addons and stuff

agile smelt
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The fluid would probably cost big bucks tho

elder sundial
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they'd immerse the hardware in the stuff, then they had a heat exchanger hooked to a condensation plate that would drip it back in, was like a very toxic terrarium

grim path
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How can I use another language for the media player in an automation?

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I've set piper for it and the sentence in my native language. Without setting a language it's saying it in English, but when I set de_DE it still says it in English.

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Piper is set up outside of HA, but it works fine when asking other stuff. Only when I want to trigger the sentence in an automation it can only speak English.

silent doveBOT
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The topic of this channel is:

@grim path Thereโ€™s no support here - only chill. Come in, grab a drink, chat with your fellow community members! This is a space to talk to other smart home enthusiasts. If youโ€™re "just asking a question", you're asking for support. Head to https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284968640189304913 to help you find where you should post your question. No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

flint jungle
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Most of my LED strips at my house (bookshelves, ambient lighting, etc.) are analog strips. Getting ready to put a new strip around my office desk. Deciding between CCT tunable vs full color. Just don't know what I'd use full color for (other than when music is playing, maybe). Anyone have interesting uses for full color LED strips within HA? Primary use case is just ambient lighting so CCT is likely best route

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No worries about matching to my other strips. Or else I'd just use the same analog auxmer strips here as well

flint jungle
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may go color just for the eventual sendspin visualizer support with LED strips actually. could be a fun party trick

hollow glacier
# flint jungle Most of my LED strips at my house (bookshelves, ambient lighting, etc.) are anal...

https://www.amazon.com/BTF-LIGHTING-Flexible-Density-Uniform-Controller/dp/B0CFY4M89V these have 90 CRI on white channel (basically good white light) and ability to do rgb. best of both worlds. just buy a 24v led controller (like a gledopto or similar off amazon) and a 24v power supply (5-10amp)

flint jungle
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soI'm just thinking through if I just use my usual Auxmer analog strips for "high quality" lighting or get a little funky with some colors haha

hollow glacier
#

these still give you the ability to tune the white to be warm/cool

flint jungle
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(I do love the effects you can do...for example, my dart board is hooked up to WLED)

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true, best of both worlds

hollow glacier
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that's my argument yeah

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not much more vs analog and all the extra fun

flint jungle
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COB has gotten so good

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yeah I'll just do that, great point. thanks!

hollow glacier
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quindor sells a better version of these ws2814 but i've never tried them

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apparently they are much brighter and even better colors

flint jungle
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I looked at that one as well, maybe I'll just pony up since it's for my office desk and I use it a lot

hollow glacier
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I used the btf ws2814 here and they turned out nice

flint jungle
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looks great

hollow glacier
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The LEDs cost more than the shelf lol

flint jungle
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right? lol I bought some of the high power Auxmer strips to eventually put in my kitchen. pricey boys

hollow glacier
#

i havent heard of auxmer i'll have to look that up

flint jungle
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high CRI analog strips essentially. recommended a lot in Quindor's discord for LEDs around the house. consistent, 5-10 year warranty, etc

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granted who knows if I could tell the difference between them and the FCOB strips now

unborn merlin
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the thing that matters more than the LEDS is always the power side.

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leds very rarely ever just fail outright.

usually its something in the power supply side of things.

flint jungle
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yeah and your aluminum channel for heat dissipation depending on power

hollow glacier
#

yeah plus they run hot so not being in a place to get some air will let them cook

flint jungle
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jinx

unborn merlin
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I'm a little surprised my 3d printers have lasted as long as they have tbh

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bright fuckers.

but also inside an insulated 3d printer at the highest point so err.

quasi breach
#

Ikea matter over thread devices connection issues:

"That white thing next to the 3D printer (Alpstuga) did you unplug it?"

"Yes"

near reef
#

water heater ahh moment

thorny heron
#

I have received a case for my Bday :3

Required me to stop using my triple rad for the CPU, but a new cooler arrives today, air based, to replace it!

It looks insane tho

quasi breach
#

let's see how long I last on apple home before I rage install home assistant at my rental place

thorny heron
quasi breach
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These are matter over thread bulbs but I just can't be bothered

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And also 3 out of 5 bulbs have already started making coil whine noises less than 2 hours into service

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Aqara bulbs is going on my never again list

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Correction: 5 out of 5

thorny heron
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OOF

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That's why I stuck to Philips for 40 bulbs

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Now I have 15 ikeas too, but those I'm less satisfied

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Their color render is not as accurate

quasi breach
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I have Philips LED bulbs that flicker at grid frequency because they are too cheap to include a proper rectifier circuit with smoothing

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Was wondering why my phone camera was behaving weird and traced it back to those Philips bulbs

weak musk
quasi breach
weak musk
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sorry for your loss

arctic quarry
dusty mica
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no raccoon??

hollow glacier
quasi breach
hollow glacier
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i only buy hue :x

atomic delta
#

Hue is fantastic. The price isn't, and it isn't great that they don't provide the firmwares openly, but the bulbs are quality hardware.

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Honestly, the firmware bit is probably the one sticking point that keeps me from buying much more of it.

scenic radish
#

They definitely have the best hardware PWM out of any smart bulb I've used

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They support crazy long, smooth transitions

atomic delta
#

Yup

hallow fossil
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they are so goddamn expensive though

unborn merlin
#

but yeah their pricing.. and their app getting progressively shittier..

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do wonder why they're hiking it so hard instead of just.. remvoing it

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was there some contract shit that requires tehm to have it?

thorny heron
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If i recall correctly

unborn merlin
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I mean they supported daylight alarms so unsuprised of long transition stuff

ocean oar
#

The only other brand that's really been light-output-quality competitive is LIFX, but being WiFi they're solidly off a lot of people's shopping lists. I will admit I've not used a post-acquisition product either, so no idea if the quality has kept up

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The supported length of transition on those is so long you have to edit it in YAML mode because the UI won't let you input a big enough number ๐Ÿ˜„

thorny heron
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I have some Lifx

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2 ceiling circles, and 4 tile kits

ocean oar
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Have done 30 minute 0-100 with zero issues

thorny heron
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( 2 kits broke down at the PSU level tho)

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I also got a LIFX bulb and one that does infrared

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it's great for my camera

ocean oar
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I have three of the IR ones

unborn merlin
knotty lily
#

Interesting video of the "first smart home" made by Tom Scott

https://youtu.be/V2lEgMHF2Fo?si=DCJEtzD4mFwV9Cx1

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ocean oar
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By far the best piece of this video is the story about the child whose job it was to place the metal lamp into the bowl of mains-voltage mercury to "turn it on"

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They had some fun ideas back in the 1800s

knotty lily
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the amount of mechanical engineering there is incredible

unborn merlin
weak musk
weak musk
thorny heron
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I'm a Bab, those cost way too much lol

unborn merlin
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you reaaaaally should if you're involving smarthome stuff

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because the little baby pissant MOV's inside of them

thorny heron
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In this economy?

unborn merlin
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are not long lived devices.

thorny heron
#

I got UPSs for my servers and it's enough haha

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I don't even own where I live ๐Ÿฅฒ

unborn merlin
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that wear over time.

thorny heron
unborn merlin
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and unless its a decent/highend UPS it doesn't have the active protection thing

ocean oar
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I have a fancy dual conversion UPS for my servers and switches... we have had 2 power outages in 6 years of living in our current house

thorny heron
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I've had like 2-3 over a 10 years period

unborn merlin
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but you see.. the thing that fucks with electronics isnt exactly the outages

ocean oar
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One of them I had to pull out the ecoflow battery pack to find out whether it would in fact run my laser printer, because I was right in the middle of printing character sheets for my partner's D&D game

unborn merlin
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its all the ripples/momentary issues

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that cause problems over time

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because.. well yeah. ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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doesn't wear out (I got them secondhand on ebay because fuck the full price.)

ocean oar
unborn merlin
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basically the same thing on a different scale.

ocean oar
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Biggest one we have is 1.5MVA, between the transformer cabinet and active electronics it weighs around 4.5 tons

unborn merlin
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its basically just an inductor with some control stuff inside for monitoring and etc..

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since inductors are reallly good at saying "fuck off" to changes in voltage.

warm helm
#

I need my solar power mount

ocean oar
#

These ones are active.
Half of it is a giant fuck-off 1:1 wire-wound transformer (that cabinet alone weighs 2900kg), the other half is more or less a dual-conversion UPS with a capacitor instead of batteries, that it uses for "correction"

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But will do near-100% correction of line voltage in the range of about 70-120% of normal (~170 - 290V)

static schooner
solar zealot
hollow glacier
atomic delta
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That said, I admit it's more about obsession than necessity.

hollow glacier
#

Julian now works for the open home foundation so thatโ€™s surprising. I doubt itโ€™s true it just needs some yaml edited to enable most likely

atomic delta
#

To my knowledge the official stance is that ZHA will only offer officially sourced firmwares. If there's another route it's news to me.

maiden python
#

y'all how cursed is it to be controlling zigbee2mqtt from a lighting network?

atomic delta
# atomic delta To my knowledge the official stance is that ZHA will only offer officially sourc...

Correction: this is the official stance with Z-Wave. Zigbee has no official stance posted that I can find. Z-Wave stance below:

Warning: We will not accept firmware updates hosted by third parties. All updates must come from the respective device manufacturer. We make an exception for firmwares that are publicly hosted by the manufacturer, but those will still require the manufacturer's review before merging.

hallow fossil
atomic delta
#

Mind you, I know how to make said cursed hacs thing, but I refuse.

maiden python
vivid wraith
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like it doesnโ€™t use varistors?

#

@unborn merlin if you dive in on their website it says their multi stage surge protection is using MOVs, so it definitely wears out and will need replaced over time

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if it fails on like most surge protection devices you wonโ€™t even know, so you should just periodically replace them

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youโ€™ll have to read into it to find out if they fail on or off, like 99% of the ones iโ€™m aware of fail on (i.e. it keeps working when the movs have been used up, which will happen over regular minor surge suppression from standard use over time)

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I think some of the tripp-lite ranges fail off

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fail off is nice since you donโ€™t need to replace them nearly as often since youโ€™ll have a clear indicator when it actually needs replaced

maiden python
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ah yes, after 5 months of having a raspberry pi in production I just went ahead and finally added backups of the critical configuration files

glacial knot
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Rpi, production? probsS

maiden python
maiden python
last cedar
unborn merlin
maiden python
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I'm using restic for the backups

maiden python
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and within proxmox

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and ha is doing auto backups to the same b2 bucket that restic is backing up to

but sensibly, I subpathed both

mystic cypress
# atomic delta I use ZHA. To my knowledge there's no way to identify updatable devices or apply...

Weโ€˜re working on showing more updates by other manufacturers, including Hue. Technically, itโ€™s already ready, but when we release firmware updates to all HA users by default, we have to make sure theyโ€™re like 100% stable. For example, the recent Hue updates pushed to Z2M seem to cause an issue when using the newer-style Hue dimmer directly bound to a bulb.

For now, you can just enable the Z2M extra provider for ZHA. But do note that not all firmware on there may be completely stable, e.g. you may want to avoid updates for Tuya devices, and generally wait a few days before installing an update to make sure itโ€™s not pulled due to some issues.

ZHA has a beta channel for the central zigpy-ota repo already, but weโ€˜ll expose that in the UI soon. The third-party manufacturer firmware will likely roll out there first.

glacial knot
#

I would have to check when I first used HA

ancient tide
#

Hey @lone dagger, our team at ChainPatrol flagged accounts impersonating Home Assistant. Happy to share screenshots if thatโ€™s helpful. Who's the right person to send this to?

warm helm
iron granite
arctic quarry
scenic radish
#

And for that x, I'm y

iron granite
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Hi y!

iron granite
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@last cedar Are you gaming on a Nintendo Switch?

iron granite
#

They just released Raccoon Survival Simulator.

static schooner
#

Man, Unifi drives me nuts sometimes. I was trying to figure out why the hell some hosts could ping a local device and others couldn't (no route to host) and it seemed to be related to a failure to receive an ARP response from that device. Hosts that already had the MAC address worked fine, but ones that didn't (or had their ARP cache cleared) couldn't communicate with other devices. If I manually set the MAC address in the ARP cache, it worked fine. And then, of course, I google for it and it seems to be a thing: https://community.ui.com/questions/Longstanding-ARP-Broadcast-Issues-driving-me-insane/4f67e6f0-0887-47e1-a478-2086f29e4763?reply=3

scenic radish
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I like their stuff, but they really do have stupid issues sometimes

static schooner
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seriously

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it's maddening that I need to care about this stuff

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if I was "just a user", I would have kicked this thing's ass by now

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Fortunately, I could do some basic debugging and then know what to Google for. Otherwise, it's just a completely ambiguous issue and I doubt I would have found useful search results

#

why can some hosts ping a device and others can't?

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when I manually cleared the ARP cache on my main server, the problem got substantially worse and that was a clue

atomic delta
#

I had that issue on a Netgear Orbi for a while. Never found a fix, it just went away eventually. Workaround? I'd ssh through a middle device and ping from the device I wanted to connect to back to the one I wanted to connect from, then wait 30 seconds or so.

static schooner
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there should be an option to randomly turn it on and off and hopefully it will work at least half the time

hollow glacier
static schooner
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This was all with IP addresses. Nothing to do with hostnames

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ARP doesn't care about hostnames

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That's what was so vexing. Even the lowest level of communication wasn't working

scenic radish
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who has 10.0.1.100? tell 10.0.1.1

static schooner
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Exactly

stuck mortar
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That sort of nonsense is why I never made the switch to unifi

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Instead I get issues with eero like WoL not working over mesh segments

unborn merlin
#

I still need to swap to unifi.. ๐Ÿค” i have the fiber gateway waiting just havent wanted to deal with dealing with fios tv box shit and moca bridge.. bah

stuck mortar
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Or my single thread device that I managed to shoehorn onto the eero network without Alexa sometimes losing connectivity with uninterrupted line of sight

last cedar
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Got a new word for you all:

"Cockwomble"

static schooner
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Seems like proxy arp is a pit of despair:

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Or maybe it's a cockwomble

last cedar
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Unicockwomblefi

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Rolls of the tongue

hollow glacier
flat shell
#

just decided to stay with docker, and i added music assistant too

warm helm
#

memory leaks!

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I need my HA to stay up long enough to find out what is causing them ๐Ÿ™

warm helm
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I may have gotten it, bambu hacs integration

stuck mortar
atomic delta
warm helm
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And I doubt it was reolink

atomic delta
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Though I am now wondering what I was doing earlier in the month when my ram usage spiked a gig higher for a while.

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Maybe compiling esphome stuff.

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Yeah, I'm betting that's what it was based on the view of the year.

warm helm
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I was one version before it

near reef
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gives the water cooler trophy to aqara leak sensors

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MVP of all time, gives me early warnings for flooding so I can prevent property damage

unborn merlin
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yep.. tho I am looking at the shelly ones soon.. probably

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Shelly Leak Sensor Cable
Expand your coverage of Shelly Flood Gen4 up to 490 ft. One Leak Sensor Cable is 6.56 ft. (2 m.).
Regular price$8.99
NEW

Thats a little hilarious

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I sorta want to see someone actually do that.

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๐Ÿคฃ

atomic delta
# unborn merlin I sorta want to see someone actually do that.

I'm considering it. Mount the sensor near the attic entrance, run the cable into the attic and then along the base of the swamp cooler ducting. That way if the ducting starts leaking water, I know immediately. Last time that happened... Well, see attached image.

unborn merlin
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... i'd just make sure it can't possibly leak like that.. water should only be where it belongs in any hvac..

atomic delta
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Do you know how swamp coolers work?

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I'm guessing the pause means no, and that's okay.

unborn merlin
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vaguely.

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evaporating water and etc.. doesn't work when stupidly humid

atomic delta
#

Basically you have a basin of water on the roof, you pump that water through a huge block of cellulose, then you use a giant squirrel cage type fan to draw air through that block and into the vent. In a proper system, it shouldn't leak water, it should just have some minimal condensation. But we're talking about systems that are recirculating water constantly all summer, and that water is generally going in at 500+ ppm hardness. As it evaporates, it leaves the minerals behind. Those minerals can chew through metal. It makes maintenance critical, and it means leaks happen.

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Huge blocks of cellulose for the record. 12" thick, 20" tall...

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Or maybe taller. I don't remember

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I do remember throwing the old ones off the roof. :P

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They were heavy after five years of mineralization.

#

But yeah, point is, not having it happen again would be great. I'll probably run a leak sensor anyway. Though thinking about it, I think I'll run it over the wooden rafters the water trickled down rather than the metal. Don't want it to ding on condensation from basic operation.

vivid wraith
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I have water leaks but I havenโ€™t installed them yet

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I was kinda salty my home insurance wonโ€™t give me a discount for them bc they want me to use a specific brand of WiFi leak sensor and Iโ€™m not doing that

atomic delta
#

That's remarkably lame.

unborn merlin
warm helm
#

Now those car "safe" driving ones, yes. Also if you have your insurance's app on your phone block it from having location data

unborn merlin
simple gazelle
#

People often look at swamp coolers here (๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง) thinking they've found some sort of cheat code, forgetting much of our misery in the heat is from the humidity. Speaking of which it's a public holiday this weekend and going to be an almost unbearable 27ยฐC, you may laugh at me now

solar zealot
#

there are alternatives people dont want you to know

simple gazelle
# solar zealot

unbothered. moisturized. happy. in my lane. focused. flourishing

#

I just have an Amazon special portable to get my bedroom down from nudging 30 to something human at bed time

hollow glacier
simple gazelle
#

I was watching a vid where an American was stuck at the side of the road and going "Ergh, it's 30 degress out" and had a moment of "Yeah that's uncomfortable with no shade and hang on a minute"

hollow glacier
#

i will die on the hill that F makes more sense than C since the scale is different and you can use whole numbers to describe the temp in a more fine-grained-control way

peak slate
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F is a scale around what humans like, c is a scale around what water likes

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Lol

last cedar
solar zealot
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hhehe

warm helm
#

10 is best

solar zealot
#

<@&330946878646517761>

warm helm
#

Why are 250 online?

scenic radish
#

Gone

solar zealot
#

begone BOT

warm helm
hollow glacier
#

one of these days we're gonna miss out on a sweet crypto scam opportunity

warm helm
hollow glacier
#

i was told web 3.0 was gonna change the world

warm helm
hollow glacier
#

if i see web3 in someone's bio i try not to interact with them lol

#

they're either ignorant, trying to take advantage of others, or most likely both!

high remnant
#

but is it webscale

scenic radish
#

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This is hilarious and is spot on with whatever genre this was called in the early 2010s ๐Ÿ˜‚

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The music form of a millennial burger joint

fervent briar
#

right now ive been forking hacs integrations and vibecoding the features i want and pushing them to my local repo. I'm currently not sharing them because they are again, extremely vibecoded. is that the correct thing to do?

hollow glacier
#

we're all just gonna have a bunch of glued together but working stuff instead of submitting issues that get ignored or at least not implemented fast as time goes on

upbeat oak
#

UH

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I had no clue the open home newsletter included community projects

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Currently pretty excited as I just discovered it included my smart cake

hollow glacier
#

i thought i read the newsletter but i missed the smart cake

upbeat oak
iron granite
#

Edible LEDs... ๐Ÿค”

upbeat oak
#

Nooo....

upbeat oak
#

More like, edible cake, plus a thick layer of icing on the front side that led matrices were then slotted into...

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Only a small inedible part

static schooner
#

If it fits, I eats

iron granite
#

The crunchy part of the cake.

silent doveBOT
#
The topic of this channel is:

Thereโ€™s no support here - only chill. Come in, grab a drink, chat with your fellow community members! This is a space to talk to other smart home enthusiasts. If youโ€™re "just asking a question", you're asking for support. Head to https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284968640189304913 to help you find where you should post your question. No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

light spindle
#

Oh well

ocean oar
#

It's been interesting watching this shitfight about the automatic updates brewing.
People are not happy about Ubiquiti's decision to force-update the apps after an OS update on the host

weary cove
#

I updated the OS on my UDM SE earlier today, and it didn't force update Protect to 7.1.69, it stayed on 7.0.107. I think it did force update Network to 10.3.58.

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Still the forced updates are annoying, especially when there's a fix for exploits being used in the wild

hollow glacier
#

did not realize that was a thing

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ubiquiti frequently ships broken firmware so i dont see why that's acceptable lol

ocean oar
#

Just be aware, introduced in 5.1.11, that when you update to 5.1.12 it will automatically update your apps (Network, Protect, etc.) to the latest versions whether you want those versions or not. There's a boat load of problems in the latest Protect releases, for example, so if you want to pin a specific app version and avoid the latest app shit-...

topaz turret
#

Hey quick question, i recently released an app, is shameless self-promotion the right place to post it? I already have it in the community forums

static schooner
#

Yes

hollow glacier
arctic quarry
umbral cliff
worthy wraith
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woah this server big

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didn't expect it from a niche community

stuck mortar
hollow glacier
worthy wraith
warm helm
last cedar
#

Can anyone help me? I got a new aerial and I can now see a network of about 45 million devices

stuck mortar
iron granite
#

A raccoon only has 4 feet.

lapis cairn
#

You could water cool it at the bottom of the ocean and it should help cut down the number of discoverable devices

solar zealot
dusty mica
#

Radio transmission

iron granite
#

Steve again...

last cedar
#

Steve is just a phone mast stealing legend at this point

atomic delta
#

About damn time

static schooner
#

Being able to flash devices through chrome is magic

#

Only issue is the need to sometimes install a CP21x driver

unborn merlin
#

windows usually takes care of that well enough in my experience.. ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

stuck mortar
last cedar
#

his short legs transmit the signals to his feet meaning he is able to accelerate faster than anything on earth

near reef
#

basically free

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I saw a review where some german guy used fish tubed wire looked cool

static schooner
#

Many leak detectors explicitly support that

last cedar
static schooner
#

I'm certain that kid is going to get mowed over by a car during every loop

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or even that giant truck there

drowsy stone
#

Hi there, I am not sure if it is here I can post this. But I created my own Docker manager. I would like to know what people think of it and of course if you like to test and provide feedback that will be great. It is a complete management with enterprise feature. For homelab and personal use it is completely free. No limitations on the features. If you like please check out my github. https://github.com/therealmcsparrow/McHarbor

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Contribute to therealmcsparrow/McHarbor development by creating an account on GitHub.

static schooner
drowsy stone
#

Thanks I will post there, but it is not all self promotion, it is also giving back to the community

summer light
#

gonna vent, it kind of hurts getting Nest cameras before setting up Home Assistant. after the last 1-2 years with HA, it's starting to get very annoying being in a low priority country without GHome Premium. I already have the GOne subscription that would normally have Premium Standard included, but just typing this combination of words makes me realize what kind of cloud slop hole I dug myself into lol

unborn merlin
#

such is cloud tied bullshit.

rich epoch
#

where the heck would I go to find any support for a hard crashing core update? Updated core, and machine keeps crashing and losing connection. trying to restore, but........ (see above)... not sure where to go for support since the discord changed. :\

rich epoch
#

keeps crashing and coming back up, then crashing again. I think I caught it while it was up and am doing a restore... fingers crossed it works...

#

Core updates have been nightmares lately.

iron granite
#

Haven't had any problems for quite some time now.

rich epoch
#

I haven't had an update not fail for quite some time now.

#

guess those things can be true at the same time huh

iron granite
#

Sure.

rich epoch
#

I just want to go to bed, but all the lights in my house are stuck on and I can't control them... I'm glad that you are not having that experience too.,

#

the restore failed ๐Ÿ˜ญ

iron granite
rich epoch
#

I read everything in there and nothing helped me

iron granite
#

Then post there and maybe someone is able to help.

rich epoch
#

Posted. I miss the feeling of being able to actually talk to people about things of this nature in this discord. fwiw.

iron granite
#

You still talk to people. It is just more structured and you have less noise in the conversation.

atomic delta
#

Gonna murderize a Tuya button. Replaced its battery and it hasn't updated the battery readout with the new battery level.

#

I have a spare thirdreality button, I suppose I could just swap it out.

dusty mica
#

can take a full day ๐Ÿ˜‰

#

on the other hand, murdering a tuya device is.. nice

last cedar
#

Explain that, flat earthers

arctic quarry
wind compass
drowsy stone
# wind compass what does it do that Portainer doesn't ?

Hi Limburger, I made a screencast in shameless-self-promotion. But main features from portainer are Workflow based automations, Role based (local accounts and ID providers (MS Entra, Google Workspace, (OIDC and Oauth next release)) access, Shop for default applications (now only 60 mainly focused on home automation, but will expand soon). In app notifications, external notification (email (smtp, exchange online, gmail), whatsapp, telegram, signal, teams, slack, discord, etc.. , will expand on request). Edittable dashboard. Etc.. All free for homelab and non-commercial users. No feature behind paid subscription or business license. And I am not done, because I want to make it as easy for myself to. 1 of the next features on my roadmap is container transfer (from one environment to another).

robust flicker
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F you lightning. Ugh

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According to HA, this zigbee bulb is off. I have another doing the same thing, and they won't do a factory reset either. But they otherwise work. I lost my big 1500va UPS, and that had my main server, my HA machine AND my DNS server plugged into it.

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The DNS server is a pi 5, and it won't power up at all. No lights. Plugged a standard USBC into it and it gets a red light so it should be ok if I get a new power supply for it. Oh, and the dumb motion spotlight over my garage door? It's just always on now. Ugh.

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Oh, and one of my smart switches is completely dead, too. But in a bit of divine providence that particular switch was the last tuya junk I had and I was dragging my feet to replace it lol

next holly
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Morning

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Home assistant is great!

last cedar
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Surge from a way away?

robust flicker
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Hit was next door. I'm next door to a car repair shop and one of their cars was hit. Blew out all the glass in it, and fried the entire electrical system in that car.

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We're lucky that we didn't lose more stuff to it here honestly

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My neighbor had a bit of a rough patch a few years back and sold a chunk of his land. A small used car seller bought it, and they built a small shop back there to fix up the cars they buy on auction before they put them on their actual lot in the city about 30 miles from me.

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It can be a pain when they have an auto hauler show up and block the road to load or unload. Thankfully there's more than one way into my little rural neighborhood.

umbral cliff
robust flicker
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Just the ups and the pi5 power supply

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Everything else plugged into it seems to be ok.

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Problem is, the server draws more wattage than either of my other UPSs can handle, so it's now in the "surge only" side of the largest remaining one.

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I had the 1500va/900w one, and my opnsense router, hass box, DNS server and the main server were all plugged into it. I also had a 375va/300w one that had my two switches, and a pair of 480va/350w ones each have a wifi AP in, in other parts of the house. So I moved the AP in the master bedroom to the 375, moved the opnsense, hass minipc, and the switches to the 480. The server is in one of the 480s non battery plugs. And the DNS server will go into the 375 once I replace the power supply for it. But replacing the big UPS is gonna be a bit. I snagged this one off a crackhead for like 20 bucks on FB marketplace. It lasted a year, soo. ๐Ÿคฃ

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What sucks is, I was packing away a little bit of money to replace the 15 year old WiFi APs with a couple of nice PoE access points so I could repurpose or even just sell, the two 480 APs. Those two do not have any sort of management port so you can't monitor them for runtime etc. the little 375 has that, but I wasn't using it since the 1500 did too

last cedar
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Omg what a pain

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Hope you get it sorted @robust flicker

robust flicker
# last cedar Hope you get it sorted <@379662758133891073>

Yeah, thanks. I'm back and mostly running. I just currently have no battery backup for my file/media server for now. Jellyfin actually runs as an app under HASS on the microPC due to it having a better GPU for transcoding, but all the media is stored on my 48TiB file server.

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I would've been SERIOUSLY upset if the UPS failed to protect that one. so. phew

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Once I feel like it, I'll take the offending UPS apart and see what, exactly, is damaged inside. I have a soldering iron and an electronics background... so I'm fairly hopeful I can actually fix it. It's probably just an internal fuse or something. The non-battery side of that UPS still works actually. just no front display, no beeps, and nothing on the battery side, but the batteries still have voltage, so they're fine.

robust flicker
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Ugh. Blown fuse and mosfet transistor. So far. Welp, guess it's time to start shopping.

last cedar
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Sorry for your loss!

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Lightning is bloody unforgiving

hollow glacier
warm helm
last cedar
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Rack ones are nice.... but you limit the batteries

warm helm
last cedar
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My 1000 VA SMX one takes 4x9Ah ones, have seen higher voltage with multiple 6V ones and they are just bloody awful to deal with

last cedar
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They do provide power in the event of a power cut though

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I have looked at, for example, bluetti units or ecoflow with their 10ms switching, one of those would make sense if it was actually 10ms

warm helm
last cedar
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Wait wait wait

warm helm
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The other inverter is 10ms

last cedar
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I have missed the 0ms one

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Which one is that?

warm helm
last cedar
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Oh that is a big boy

warm helm
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Though I am sure there others have it too

last cedar
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I am going to have a victron setup very soon, but that is also 20ms (although it seems to be a lot quicker than that)

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When I say very soon, I mean if I get on with it

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๐Ÿคฃ

warm helm
last cedar
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I will have to test it really

warm helm
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But yes the apex 300 is literally 0ms with how they have the inverter and battery setup.

robust flicker
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Or, I could just go grab this one. ๐Ÿคฃ

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It needs batteries, but otherwise works fine. And guess what, I have batteries that fit it perfectly. ๐Ÿคฃ

warm helm
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I will also say I do prefer the solar generators to traditional UPS. Only because during a power outage I like my network to be online and I have a paired down network to do that

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And can run it on solar

robust flicker
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Where I live there's a monthly fee if your solar is tied into the grid at all.

warm helm
robust flicker
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All well and good, but I would need an inverter, some batteries and panels to install solar all of which is more expensive than even a brand new 1500va UPS.

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Not to mention the bms system for charging and discharging said batteries using said panels.

warm helm
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That's fair and I do have my big stuff on an actual ups. The Nas and some Networking equipment. The core network is on the apex right now to keep it online if we have a power outage. 2 n100s for my backup Plex server, home assistant and the udm pro with 1 ap

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I'd like to rig it up that to power my rack is all solar but will shut down the big stuff in case of an outage

hollow glacier
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my proxmox mini pc wont post runcry

last cedar
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And those didn't test the battery every 2 weeks, so you never knew if battery was ok

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I know they don't use the dangerous gunk anymore

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And I know the business (PR) models do test their batteries, because I have one

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But can't answer for that exact one

robust flicker
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It's usually fairly easy to throw a cron schedule for a monthly battery test. I had that setup on my FreeBSD server for the old APC 1500

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And this is the post 2020 model, you can tell by the existence of the USB ports.

last cedar
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I have a PR1000 tower model, it is time for its 2nd set of batteries, it has been running flawlessly since 2015 ish

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The display has never worked properly though, got it open boxed from Poland way back

unborn merlin
last cedar
stuck mortar
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Side effect of banishing my big desktop into occasional remote use only is that my UPSโ€™ vampire loads are higher than their typical loads most of the time

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UPSes? UPSen? UPSi?

unborn merlin
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๐Ÿ˜„

maiden python
unborn merlin
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skip that messy extra AC conversion shit.

stuck mortar
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Iโ€™ve decided the scientific name is UPSopodes

warm helm
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Some ups have no issue with lfp, some do.

unborn merlin
warm helm
unborn merlin
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thus why I do it myself! /s

arctic quarry
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I swear my eyes saw "oh, a wall of terrariums"

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-# terraria? terraripodes?

unborn merlin
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a wall full of about.. 120ah of 24v batteries

arctic quarry
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that's a lot of ah

unborn merlin
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well not 24v batteries yet, but will be

arctic quarry
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one might say aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

unborn merlin
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assembling larger for an office thjing at work..

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280ah ๐Ÿ˜›

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48v pack made from 4x shucked batteries

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also literally 260lbs or so

stuck mortar
still wigeon
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Dunno if there's a channel for this or nah, just a general question; does HA have any anti-brute-force login security? I fear with my HA domain being openly accessible, it can attempt to be bruted

scenic radish
still wigeon
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Oh its a config question?

static schooner
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yes

silent doveBOT
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robust flicker
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So my recently-graduated daughter is at her job tonight, and about 30 minutes ago my wife gets a surreptitiously-filmed video of an altercation at her work.... of a full grown man throwing things at her and the other lady she was working with tonight, dollar store prob 5 minutes from the house... Fortune is with the guy because he was gone by the time I got there. Dad mode was -fully- engaged.....

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small town tho. so I'll know who he is, and probably where he lives by tomorrow afternoon... and as I work at the county jail, I have LOTS of sheriff deputy friends....

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it's technically assault. the other lady that was there tonight is the assistant store manager, and she told him to not come back. so if he does, he's gonna take the wee-woo ride.

unborn merlin
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nah its nothing.

since its just some wage slave he's assaulting thats normal! /s (god I hate this country.)

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send your daughter to waffle house; she must learn combat..

fierce verge
# warm helm I'd like to rig it up that to power my rack is all solar but will shut down the ...

late to the conversation but I also use portable power stations, and some small UPS units. I just swapped from the bigger UPS units I have to portable power stations because replacing batteries every 10 years or units, I suppose versus replacing batteries every three was getting a bit tiring. and the power stations work just fine as a UPS even though I can't monitor them nearly as well

warm helm
unborn merlin
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thus why I am going DC UPS that's based off an industrial unit..

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because that thing is hilariously programmable and controllable.. ๐Ÿ˜„

fierce verge
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yeah I need to do some work and figure out how to do a automation that would turn off a smart power plug to one of my power stations when the wattage on a set of plugs hits a certain level or near it so that I do not go over it and trip a breaker

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because I realized with these portable power stations, they're kind of a game changer in terms of how much power they can store

unborn merlin
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BMS for the LFP batteries will talk to an esp32 probably.

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will have that thing manage most of the power stuff

warm helm
fierce verge
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i'm using anker unfortunately and the mqtt integration works pretty well, but polling consistently to determine charge percentage eats up possibly more battery than it's worth. i think i'll need to do some timing, math and ultimately it'll depend on if it's one of the days in the summer that doesn't really cool off at night

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just one of those projects that I'll eventually get around to, ya know?

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at this rate I'll probably get it set up and then we'll buy a house and it won't be an issue anymore

warm helm
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Aeotec CT clamp, then automate based on that

fierce verge
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innnnteresting

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though a whole home energy monitoring system is what I'm looking into long term

warm helm
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Also there is now this fucking thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HccE10EY0I

Everybody needs a UPS but traditional UPS's rely on ancient battery technology. This new Sierro compact UPS uses Lithium Iron Phosphate Batteries which is very unusual in stand alone UPS, but whats better is this costs less than $300. This is a big deal for point of use power backup!

More Info: https://tinyurl.com/yeyxdfs8
This is NOT an affili...

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unborn merlin
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its a fucking kickstarter

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they can talk when the shit is real

warm helm
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bluetti has their fridge one too but its more money

unborn merlin
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very adorable they have extended warranty shit on the kickstarter too

fierce verge
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it's encouraging at least

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i love the solar plug option

unborn merlin
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what, that they want to get more money out of you for something they already claim lasts 20 yrs?

fierce verge
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no, it's encouraging that people are attempting to try to make stuff like this affordable

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what strikes me as odd with these liPo battery UPS's though is that the price seems to be so high for what is such a small capacity

unborn merlin
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LFP not Lipo

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different.

warm helm
# fierce verge i love the solar plug option

I skipped to to the part where that was to make sure it was there. That is something that makes the solar generators more appealing as a UPS. Sure safely shutting down is great but also is having internet during an outage and being able to quickly throw panels out when needed is huge

fierce verge
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lfp is still better than lead acid, isn't it?

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lfp still lasts longer than lead acid, doesn't it?

unborn merlin
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miles better, yes

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(most) LFP is heavier than lipo with a lower density but.. for battery backups that hardly matters (though BYD or whatever in china did manage a fancy LFP pouch cell thing for their cars.)

unborn merlin
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because I fucking despise those stupid pissant UPS's that kill their batteries after like 3-5yrs with no use

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funny enough its going in a rack case from an old UPS's extra-battery rack mount thing

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gonna end up similar weight but with much higher capacity.

fierce verge
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yeah, the lead acid UPS's that I've got lying around and still have after replacing kind of suck because I have to either trickle use them by something or just get rid of them because they'll die soon on their own with no use anyway

unborn merlin
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even got laser-cut plates to clamp them properly

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because LFP want/should be clamped and blah blah

arctic quarry
dawn badge
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<@&330946878646517761>

scenic radish
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Gone

hollow glacier
orchid grove
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is it possible to get HA / some other service that links to it to call my phone? like using my phone number? im looking to make a find-my-device kinda thingy.

vale dust
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has anyone made an esphome-like thing for custom matter/thread devices?

solar zealot
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Probably

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Better ask in the appropriate channels

vale dust
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if not i want to make one is all

solar zealot
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Esphome also has their dedicated discord guild

vale dust
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i know but it wouldnโ€™t be esphome

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isnโ€™t the whole point of esphome that it uses their api? either over wifi or thread

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this would make matter-compatible devices

solar zealot
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Matter is just using wifi or threads either way

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If they have tooling for it, their discord will know

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#the-workshop is our diy place but id guess they have a deeper understanding of why or why not this exists

vale dust
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alr iโ€™ll go ask there ๐Ÿ˜

solar zealot
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Those also cannot be stored without discharge cycles

warm helm
solar zealot
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That's good but not putting cycles on them

spark badger
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insulation seems to be doing well

unborn merlin
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but you do sorta need to learn a bit

exotic yoke
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I think I just made the single stupidest automation ever
When my air purifier detects a spike of pollution in the air, which half of the time is caused by me vaping weed, my speaker says "dude I'm so high right now woah"

exotic yoke
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Also cool that it's very visible when my portable AC in my apartment hit equilibrium and started turning on and off

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Gorgeous data

ocean oar
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How much does it annoy you that your temperature sensor clearly reads in 0.1ยฐC increments then converts those to 0.18ยฐF increments for your display? Scale of 1 to 10 ๐Ÿคฃ

hollow glacier
exotic yoke
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the physical display im pretty sure alwayus rpounds down

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while HA rounds properly to nearest

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so theyre "different"

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but if i turn up precision and see the full C converted, the digit always matches

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its stupid

hollow glacier
exotic yoke
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several of my smart devices with their internal temp sensors do that

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it suck

weary cove
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Mods faster than I could find the tag to alert them

unborn merlin
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isnt it great that discord still hasnt fixed that bullshit?

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but sure hit me with bullshit captcha nonsense to add a friend or chat with them

static schooner
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We just need a honeypot channel

atomic delta
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This is a Public Service Announcement

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Certified Water Coolerโ„ข content

ocean oar
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You can't tell me what to do. You're not my real dad

quiet turtle
vivid wraith
orchid grove
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delete sun

mortal walrus
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still kinda bugs me that you can't add a second sun (to get sun position info for a different location).

weary cove
orchid grove
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region specific features

iron granite
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Or use the Proxima Centauri integration for a second sun.

mortal walrus
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the "sun" entity doesn't model the sun. it model's the sun's appearance at a specific location on earth. There are more than one locations on earth.

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and yeah, there probably is a hacs integration out there to get sun information for a different location for folks who want that.

orchid grove
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no representation for alternate celestial bodies in this community honestly

silent doveBOT
orchid grove
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oh wait that exists ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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i genuinely cant think of when that would be useful in an automation but i love it anyway

orchid grove
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death star integration when

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actually that'd be a nigtmare to integrate cause they keep blowing up

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you'd have to update the code every time they built a new one

iron granite
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Werewolf defence automations at new full moon.

orchid grove
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wake everyone in the house, set all lights to red, and trip the alarm whenever its a full moon

stuck mortar
warm helm