the-water-cooler

[arctic quarry]

ngl if Grok said "intelligent agent that knows your skin type" that would be on brand but

[tidal bronze]

I have chemical balance, protocols, stock levels all tracked for skincare

[forest edge]

and a little purse to go along with it

[arctic quarry]

wasn't familiar with n8n, love this wikipedia section

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/seinfeld-fancy-boy-jerry-seinfeld-kramer-cosmo-kramer-gif-3995294

[forest edge]

oh shit they just announced steve rogers will be in doomsday

[arctic quarry]

text-to-shortcode ratio:d

[tidal bronze]

Good for mundane tasks with Ollama

[peak slate]

It's from all that colloidal silver gpt keeps telling him to eat

Qf's view of perfection

[tidal bronze]

So you know your GHK-CU

[high remnant]

https://iwillnotbuynitro.com/u/easygoing-bighearted-happy-barasingha.jpg

:D

xmas present for mother

[weak musk]

hope you sold her a support contract too

[high remnant]

yes. this is why i went for something off the shelf

[minor bobcat]

Nice plug

The convo is still about plugs right? RIGHT?

[copper acorn]

Flaired, for his/her pleasure

[high remnant]

i can sit on it

[minor bobcat]

Instructions unclear...

[grizzled gull]

hmmmm boy(14) wants to learn Linux as his security competition he's part of has a Linux component, thinking MINT, I remember starting on redhat many many many many years ago, saying screw this and ignoring Linux for a few years until I did Ubuntu, don't want him to experience the same thing, ubuntu/debian distro's still seem the easiest to dip your toes in the water, anyone have any thoughts?

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/fedora-tipshat-mlady-melady-athiest-gif-7191305

[stuck mortar]

Over the last mumble mumble years, I’ve gone through suse, mandrake, gentoo (only 527000 kernel recompiles!), red hat, who knows what else…. And finally stuck with desktop Ubuntu since at least 2009.

Doing the math, I’ve used Ubuntu more than everything else combined

Customer systems I interact with are either rhel/centos or Ubuntu

[grizzled gull]

I've run mainly Ubuntu variants the last 15 years (or longer, forget when ubuntu came out), recently trying Fedora Plasma, liking it so far

[marble elk]

fedoras pretty nice, i like to daily drive it on stuff that i want to run newerish versions of things but still be pretty reliable

[iron granite]

I'd say Debian and Fedora.

[marble elk]

something debian based like ubuntu isnt a bad choice though

[iron granite]

If you can handle Debian, you can handle Ubuntu as well. And Fedora is a starting point for the RHEL way.

[vivid wraith]

I’ve done a few 5 or so year stints with gentoo as my main computer

I want to try arch but every time I get the chance I just stick to what I know

[stuck mortar]

Gentoo is xkcd 303 personified

[marble elk]

ive done a gentoo install but never really got into it, arch is my version of what you just said there lol, my desktop runs arch and with it being customized for my current network boot setup and lacking time, I just havent switched it to anything else(not that arch is bad at all, its great lol, but i would like to do fedora on my desktop at some point)

[grizzled gull]

Part of the reason I went with Fedora was because its a happy medium between Arch(bleeding edge) and ubuntu varients(not withstanding unstable distros)

[vivid wraith]

on my webservers I run debian, but that has occasionally been annoying over the years when they’re too far removed from a new release and I can’t even compile what I want with in-repo dependencies bc even those are too out of date. But on the whole I prefer the stability

[marble elk]

yepppp

i do recent ubuntu releases for my servers aside from my BGP routers, those are straight debian

[marble elk]

ahh yah, exactly the reason i like fedora for my work devices and my personal laptop, i want those devices to just work but also not run stuff 2y old lol

[vivid wraith]

gentoo was actually my first time trying linux so I never had a chance to be annoyed by its idiosyncrasies beyond learning linux in the first place

[marble elk]

Ahh remjnds me, at some point I want to try to do a LFS install, no idea when I'll ever have time though lol

[vivid wraith]

I actually ran gentoo unstable most of that time

it’s crazy how much work the gentoo unstable community puts into testing packages before the other distributions see them, but mostly big picture “this release doesn’t even compile” sort of stuff

[marble elk]

My first experience with Linux I think was Ubuntu 14.04, but I didn't use or understand it too much until a friend got me to seriously try debian in 2018. Started with xfce and quickly was moved to i3. Since using i3. I haven't been able to go back lol

I can't go without some kind of tiling

[scenic radish]

i've been a big fan of ubuntu for desktop and debian for servers

[vivid wraith]

I used enlightenment for a while and then i3 for ages

are chromebooks still built off of gentoo’s package manager or did they change that

gentoo’s package manager is great, I always miss it when using other stuff

[grizzled gull]

I bought my younger child(10) a flight yoke and pedals as he really wants to be a pilot, I was going to let him cruise along with a 2070, but then there was a sale on a 9070xt hellhound on amazon for 600 with 10% off, after reading all the warnings about graphics cards prices going up because of ram, not sure how i feel about it yet lol

[marble elk]

yah i3 is great, only switched off cause i like certain gnome features and also gtk themes to work normal, and what i was using to do that started to get finicky and old, i think gnome-flashback or something. now i daily gnome with pop-shell but im starting to dabble in cosmic

[vivid wraith]

the older I get the less I want to spend time maintaining stuff like I did when I was younger

speaking of, home assistant sounds like a mistake lmao

trying to keep it as simple as possible to reduce maintenance burden

[marble elk]

lol i get that, i randomly go into my HA after months and am like, oh that one integration isnt working, and/or oh, im crazy out of date in general

for the most part my stuff just works though, which is nice

[grizzled gull]

I realized one of my outside camera's hadn't been working for 2 week yesterday, thankfully I have coverage from a wide angle camera so it was still doing the automations I wanted, just not as quickly

[marble elk]

oh ooops

[grizzled gull]

I use it to turn on lights and check for packages, making me second guess if I even needed it lol

[marble elk]

i feel like i could do so much more with my HA automations but dont really, all i really do most of the time is just some simple sunset/sunrise on/off type of stuff

[grizzled gull]

Make it more complicated and use a lux sensor so it turns on during bad weather or earlier on cloudy days

[marble elk]

ahhh, that sounds like a good idea actually

just bought a house so im setting up a new HA(current is at my parents), currently i have the outside lights set to turn on at sunset but only when me or my wife are there, that would be a good addition lol

[grizzled gull]

My next automation is going to be starting timelapse's when the weather says it's snowing

[marble elk]

oooo

what kind of cameras do you have? i actually didnt know i could link cameras into HA until recently when setting that up, connected some of my unifi protects cameras into it

[grizzled gull]

Right now just reolink camera's

And omg I just realized what is causing my 1 camera to work while its inside and then when it's outside for a short period, its getting cold, and stops working

[marble elk]

oh no, check the datasheet and see what it says for temp rating?

[grizzled gull]

its an ourdoor camera...

[marble elk]

hmm

[grizzled gull]

ahh thats exactly it

It went poof when it got cold out

Temperature
Operating temperature: -10°C ~ +55°C (14°F ~ 131°F)

Now I'm worried about my other more expensive camera

Grumble

[marble elk]

hmm, idk, well how cold is it out rn?

close to that or?

[grizzled gull]

Well.... it was -15F when the camera went poof 😛

[marble elk]

hmmmm, that could do it ;)

i mean i would think they natually heat up themselves a bit but maybe thats a bit far from rated lol

[vivid wraith]

im in dallas so the coldest it gets is like -2F

[grizzled gull]

it gets that cold in Dallas?

[vivid wraith]

that’s like a ~50y freeze event (but maybe more common now?)

last time it got that cold was 2021

−10C is probably fine for dallas as long as the failure mode is stops-working and not breaks

[grizzled gull]

Now reading more about the specific camera model, I don't think the cold killed it, many many people use them outside with no issues

[marble elk]

yah that still sounds weird

do you have another to test with or nah?

[vivid wraith]

I got a japanese super toilet

doesn’t connect to the internet though so I guess it’s a dumb toilet

[grizzled gull]

No, but I tested with multiple POE switches and I also tested using teh same line as my POE doorbell, doorbell worked on either POE line

[grizzled gull]

Is that like the one from Futurama?

[vivid wraith]

prob

[grizzled gull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE0sddhCIdE

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze what disgusting thing you making for xmas dinner? I bet it involves cardboard

[tidal bronze]

Crab and lobster

[grizzled gull]

Oh that sounds good, we are doing prime rib

Got it onsale for 6.99 lb from Amazon(wish me luck lol)

[forest edge]

amazon meat?

[grizzled gull]

yeah amazon fresh

[forest edge]

does that revolver come with all 6 bullets or just 1?

[marble elk]

like with a bidet and heated seats and whatnot?

[tidal bronze]

I like Fresh but never bought meat

[grizzled gull]

For 6.99 lb I figure its worth a try

[tidal bronze]

Yep

Number one would be Whole Foods then Amazon Fresh for organics

[tawdry yacht]

New van 😄

[solar zealot]

Does it connect to homeassistant?

[tawdry yacht]

I guess I could try

[high remnant]

a man with his van

[solar zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/clarkson-thumbs-up-jeremy-clarkson-top-gear-smug-gif-21375480

[high remnant]

the holy trinity

[tidal bronze]

You need some vitals

[tidal bronze]

Tire stats?

[high remnant]

API doesn’t expose them

[rocky wagon]

you can get them via rtl_433 and a RTLSDR dongle. That would get the manufacturer, active pressure in kPa, and the serial number.

[high remnant]

sure but how would i get them into HA?

i am just using the car API

[rocky wagon]

https://iamzed.com/posts/home-assistant-rtl-433/

[tidal bronze]

Run a AP in the car

[rocky wagon]

the easy way is to use the rtl_433 to MQTT broker, and then HA can read from the broker

[high remnant]

lol

yeah i’m like on the 4th floor

i think i’ll pass on this

[rocky wagon]

i have no clue how you live and stuff. It's a thing I do. Works well.

[high remnant]

fair enough

[tidal bronze]

BTW car does not come with hotspot?

[rocky wagon]

I pull power monitoring and TPMS both into my HA

[high remnant]

it does

it’s out of wifi range unfortunately

[tidal bronze]

If you have always on Wi-Fi in the car while you're driving it's not a problem

[high remnant]

meh it’s fine

it has its own LTE thing

[warm helm]

Poorly. Ford radios suck

[high remnant]

i hardly check tire pressures tbh

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/segundo-sol-novela-remy-vladimir-brichta-chocado-gif-12304506

[stuck mortar]

#the-water-cooler message

[high remnant]

hey i get my tires switched to summers/winters often!

[high remnant]

yes, that has nothing to do with tire pressures :P

[stuck mortar]

Often as in every summer and winter? Or more vibes based

[high remnant]

i still haven’t had them checked. the dealer has 29th planned

[high remnant]

every time.

i should check them but i don’t do it as often

[stuck mortar]

That’s what TPMS is for

[high remnant]

also true

[stuck mortar]

RTL433 may reach up to your floor

[high remnant]

will it?

could be

[stuck mortar]

I’ve got some temperature sensors inside the freezer in a different building that reached the Harry Potter closet with my antenna

Dunno about tire sensors

[grizzled gull]

My vehicles just show teh pressure and pop a light up when they get to low, usually because of temp change, that being said having a 37" tire on a 17" wheel leads to a lot of tire pressure changes due to large volume

[high remnant]

i mean it also depends on how far away the car is parked

[high remnant]

i have a skinny tire on a big rim

[stuck mortar]

I should probably see if I can pull in my own tires since we never check until the car yells at us

[high remnant]

anyhow as soon as the lease runs out i’m getting a BMW

[last cedar]

Anyone know how to connect a 1999 Volvo to Home Assistant? Asking for a friend 🤣

[static schooner]

Would you believe also using your lawn mower as a hub?

That's some magic mower you have there

[last cedar]

I still haven't got the mower to connect to home assistant yet either 🙁

The compatability is just terrible tbh

[stuck mortar]

Husqvarna hubvarna

[high remnant]

KTM

[tawdry yacht]

I despise strimmers

I was using one and the engine threw a rod

scared the shit out of me

Turns out it had been straightgassed, I put regular petrol in instead of oil petrol mix

[ocean oar]

The last one I saw that had been run without oil just seized and melted the piston to the cylinder, guess you got "lucky" 🙂

[tawdry yacht]

It wasn't the piston that seized in the cylinder, the rod itself ejected

[ocean oar]

I will also say that battery line trimmers are pretty awesome these days (along with chainsaws, and a lot of other garden tools)

[tawdry yacht]

Ones that use 1 type of battery over multiple different tools are best

[marble elk]

i mean, i had a android stereo in my 2006 chevy and had a small amount of sensors like location in HA i think lol

[tidal bronze]

Done it few times using a Flux Capacitator, inital setup not flud then MQTT all the way

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/great-scott-surprised-amazed-oh-my-shocked-gif-16490502

[jagged moon]

I wish I could tie my chevy bolt into homeassistant, but they do obnoxious things with CAN that kill access to the port after so many minutes after the car powers off

honestly, unless someone releases an onstar module emulator, that situation isnt going to improve 🙁

[vivid wraith]

Should I have both a local and remote login setup on the mobile app?

I wasn’t sure how to even switch between them

[static schooner]

#1284965926336335993

[vivid wraith]

The always on location notification said something about choosing between remote and local connections, and I had set up only a remote connection so I messed that up

Hmmm

[static schooner]

Please post there

[vivid wraith]

I need to find a UPS that fits on my “smart closet” shelves

God my to do list is so long

[hybrid dust]

Hey all, I'm looking at getting a new router and was wondering if the flint 2 or flint 3 might be good options? They're on sale atm so thought they might be not bad?

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge what's cooking?

[vivid wraith]

Okay I guess I should finally switch my ecobees over to home assistant with export to HomeKit instead of running stuff from HomeKit

[tidal bronze]

Yep that would be the way.

Ecobee cloud is a joke for latency.

[scenic radish]

A candy shop by us had these. I loved these as a kid and had to buy them

I was not disappointed

[vivid wraith]

Apparently they don’t issue new API keys anymore so it’s not even an option if I want to use home assistant

Today I learned my washer and dryer connect to WiFi

https://tenor.com/view/owen-wilson-wow-marley-and-me-smooth-hd-hq-gif-977282450591946462

[tidal bronze]

I do have API access but just completely uselss, take the HK route.

[vivid wraith]

I can download washing profiles from the internet…..for…..in case my favorite washing influencer has a special sauce?

https://tenor.com/view/why-monkey-what-huh-confused-gif-3006908007927048834

[tidal bronze]

Washing profiles makes sense.

[vivid wraith]

My mother hasn’t even managed to convince me to separate my whites yet

[tidal bronze]

I did setup them but I have no idea how laundry works. 🙂

[vivid wraith]

I just stopped buying white clothes

[scenic radish]

Here you go: https://youtu.be/F0dmzlSYMeY

[vivid wraith]

Three quarters 😮

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

[tidal bronze]

LMAO, what I meant was how it happens at the house. It's been awhile.

[static schooner]

Poppin' tags, yo

[tidal bronze]

Lol, there you go.

I don't usually worry about things that are automagical.

[tidal bronze]

T's, jeans and shorts. How complex can life be?

[forest edge]

want some maple glazed ham?

[tidal bronze]

ham? 🤔

You bring back memories

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-spider-pig-homer-simpson-gif-3722738

[stuck mortar]

Maple glazed spiders?

Not sure I like these alt proteins

[tidal bronze]

Music Assistant smart fade is noice!

[vivid wraith]

less batter wth

i need a huge ladder i have 25 ft ceilings 😭

[hazy kindle]

I'm interested in the IKEA clearance on their zigbee stuff

I see the website has a bunch of smart devices listed as sale, but the descipritons are for Matter

wondering if the clearance is zigbee, but they just update the description 🤔

[dawn badge]

if its matter then its likely their new range devices your looking at

[minor bobcat]

Just compare it with the zigbee2mqtt.io database (even if you use zha)

[atomic delta]

I have the same problem in two rooms. If you can wire up to mains, you can use a couple cheap adapters to step down to 3.3v, which should still be safe for the device. CR2450 is a 3v battery. Just solder or even clip (soldering is better) a couple leads into the device's battery case.

[vivid wraith]

Taskrabbit “replace a battery”

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-smirk-gif-1501673502766173669

[atomic delta]

I don't like having battery-powered devices on those ceilings. Too high up. I have the ladder for it, but it's perilous.

If I had to, I'd probably use an external caddy and toss something beefy in instead of a CR2450. Maybe a LiFePo 21700.

[last cedar]

Merry christmas everyone, apart from the nightmare furby @lone dagger

Just to clarify, merry christmas Missy, but not the nightmare furby

[robust flicker]

We have a dead GE smart washer. Needs a new control board. So I could either buy a new control board for $400, or a cheap, used working washer for $50. Care to guess what I did.....

[peak slate]

The used washer will likely last longer than the new control board anyway

Those ge washer boards are stupidly designed

[dusty mica]

Merry christmas in advance for all users, friends, mods, crows, devs and servermissy! Enjoy!

[solar zealot]

🎄

[storm canyon]

Good morning all. So I have a bunch of Wiz RGBW Lights (wifi based) throughout the house and they work, but on occassion some of them become unavailable and the only way to fix it is to turn the light switch on and off a couple of times and then they will get seen again. This works but gets annoying. I was trying to create an automation that would turn on and off lights that do not get regularly used to keep them alive but it seems that is spotty. So I guess my next thing is to start looking to find if there are more reliable lights out there that I can use that do not just become unavailable randomly. Looking for suggestions and guidance is appreciated.

[iron granite]

#1284966353798697001 with the "Recommendation" tag can help with replacement suggestions, #1284966582375813201 with the Wiz integration.

[storm canyon]

hmmmm I only see the water cooler and creator-connection am I looking wrong?

[iron granite]

Look in id:customize. All the other channels are likely hidden. You can unhide them there.

[storm canyon]

Thank you very much for the eduction

education event

even

[minor bobcat]

We aren't doing many festivities today so my gf started painting lol
But Merry Christmas to everyone here!

[unborn merlin]

or learn to fix pcbs....

https://tenor.com/view/hack-the-planet-gif-15624885

[robust flicker]

I don't have the patience, or the eyesight these days, tbh. 😛

But yea. I likely could assuming it's just something simple like a cold solder or a bad component like caps/diodes etc. Problem is, it's probably all ICs, and those are .... not straightforward.

[vivid wraith]

I bought my first house and my parents got me an LG washer/dryer as housewarming

[last cedar]

Going to the river costs $0!

[vivid wraith]

Do you think the recycling guy will pull out the ten thousand boxes I shoved in my recycling bin

[vivid wraith]

Apparently my energy meter is one of those zigbee smart meters, now to figure out if oncor even lets you provision a smart device to it

Oh they stopped supporting provisioning smart devices for it in 2019/2020

Okay then

They have this smart meter Texas portal with an API but apparently they have started blocking all the home assistant users 😢

[ocean oar]

"API users use too many resources"
"Ok, give us a local API so we don't have to"
"Also no"

[vivid wraith]

apparently they charged all the customers $300 for the new meters by arguing the smart device connection was to help users save money, and then disabled that feature

lmao

[ocean oar]

It absolutely isn't to save us money, but it definitely saves them money

[last cedar]

The illusion of choice!

[ocean oar]

Because they don't have to pay people to read the meters (or at least going to each meter; might still have to drive around depending on their radio range), and they can turn power off/on without sending a registered electrician to install/remove the main fuses

[vivid wraith]

well, notable here is that was the argument they made to the government to be allowed to add the bill surcharge

[ocean oar]

For us plebs, the only advantage is maybe getting time-of-use billing for cheap EV charging overnight, assuming our capitalist overlords are willing

[shy plinth]

can't get net metering for solar with an older meter here

[vivid wraith]

Huh I think I can’t provision my smart bulbs since I can’t temporarily disable 5 ghz in the new att routers yet

https://tenor.com/view/well-that-sucks-randy-marsh-stan-marsh-south-park-s13e6-gif-22907459

Do they sell cheap phones without 5 ghz support but new enough to install home assistant companion lmao

Hmmmmm

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze Merry Xmas

[near galleon]

hey yall im looking to get started with home assistant. sorry if this is the wrong channel for these questions but i havent been able to find a beginner FAQ. my main 2 questions are:

1. is it better to run the home assistant OS in a VM or just grab a HA green box? i have an unraid server already that i think i could use this for
2. if you were starting over today, what network tech would you buy into? i understand 'matter over thread' is supposed to be the modern new one, and zwave is most reliable but expensive, and zigbee seems to still be the most popular even though its kind of old?

[vivid wraith]

Okay I have an idea, I buy a second router and I set it up with the same ssid and pw as the main one,change ssid of main router, I connect to that on 2.4 by enabling only 2.4, provision the matter over WiFi devices, then disconnect new router and change main router back

I think that would work?

[forest edge]

you can look through #1284966353798697001 but in the end it's each their own. while there may be some bad ideas there generally isn't anything that stands above everything else

[vivid wraith]

Then just redo that every time I need to provision a new matter device. I can just get a really long Ethernet cable so I can get the dummy router close enough to devices

[forest edge]

wut?

[vivid wraith]

I’m trying to set up a matter device

I think that’s my best option

[forest edge]

I don't know what you got going on but NOTHING is deserving of such methods lol

[vivid wraith]

My phone needs to be on the same 2.4 GHz network as the matter device

The new ATT router/modems for 5 gigabit internet, BGW620-700, do not have advanced configuration options enabled in the firmware yet. In particular I cannot: set separate SSID for 2.4/5ghz or disable one of them, or disable the WiFi at all

[forest edge]

that shouldn't matter

[vivid wraith]

My iPhone cannot disable connecting to 5 GHz, and I cannot disable it at the router, so I need a workaround to get my iPhone onto the 2.4 GHz network in order to provision a matter device

[forest edge]

the device will connect to whichever one that it can

[vivid wraith]

That’s not what the home assistant documentation says, and it didn’t work when I tried it anyway

[forest edge]

you can look into trying something like this https://www.matteralpha.com/how-to/how-to-use-home-assistant-to-add-matter-devices-without-phone

[vivid wraith]

Oh that could work since it’s a phone problem, let’s look into it

[forest edge]

reality is it seems to me most devices that can do matter over wifi can just use wifi and skip the whole matter part period. hell the one device I messed with matter on had more features using wifi than the matter

may have to find a custom intergration for whatever it is you are doing but odds these days are generally pretty high for finding something

[vivid wraith]

Looks like that can work I just need a Bluetooth dongle for my home assistant setup

[vivid wraith]

The WiZ home assistant integration requires setting up the device in the wiz app first, which requires provisioning WiFi by being on the same 2.4 GHz network

https://tenor.com/view/imagination-spongebob-meme-gif-17613811440277416373

[weak musk]

#1284966540617449515 and #1284966353798697001

[vivid wraith]

Maybe I just look for the cheapest android device that doesn’t support 5 GHz WiFi

I have old android devices I could find and charge but I doubt the home assistant app would install anymore

[robust flicker]

more matter teething issues? say it aint so.

hugs his zigbee network you'll have to pry it outta my cold dead hands. 😛

[stuck mortar]

I either need to change the location of the Nuki thread lock I installed, or abandon MoT before I really start and just put the stupid thing on wifi

It’s fine when it works, which is inevitably when I’m at home and could just go get the key. It always decides not to work when I’m away from home and need to open that door for someone

[stuck mortar]

#1284966617670881350

(For actual support and not just me whining)

[quiet onyx]

No, thank you! I debated but I figured try here first.

[robust flicker]

score! two in-wall smart switches: one sonoff, one jerry whosits, both zigbee, unfortunately all I have now are the pictures, as there were delays in shipping, lol. Also a reciprocating saw and a cutoff tool. plus a huge bit and nut driver set. Oh. and a french press coffee pot.

And a couple of "funny" gifts. 🤣

[ocean oar]

My in-laws got me one of these:
https://store.seestar.com/products/seestar-s50

Annoyingly, it is cloudy this afternoon

[robust flicker]

Typical! nice *scope

[ocean oar]

Hopefully the sky clears later this evening (of course it doesn't get dark until ~10:30pm in this part of the country right now)

[robust flicker]

It's been dark for almost 4 and a half hours where I am, and it's only 930pm 😛

[ocean oar]

I plugged the thing in to charge it and muck with settings, has some zoom about it.
My phone at "1x" and "7.1x" (~24 and ~170mm), vs this at its "1x"

[robust flicker]

yeah, thats a good scope! better share some good astro pics once you get it all dialed in

[ocean oar]

Will do. We're going for a road trip over the next week and change, and one of the areas we're staying is an actual dark sky reserve (https://www.darkskyreserve.org.nz/), so that is perfect

[robust flicker]

My MiL bought my kid a decent reflecting telescope back about 10 or 12 years ago. Sadly it got knocked over less than a month later and was knocked completely out of alignment. Repairs would've cost the same as a new one. :/

but, then, that long ago she wasnt even 10 years old yet, she's 18 now.

We did wind up getting a couple of decent pics of both Jupiter and Saturn, by adjusting it, then sticking the phone camera lens against the viewfinder. I don't know what happened to those pics tho

I recall it being good enough to even see a couple of Jupiter's moons.

[tidal bronze]

That's a lot of work.

[vivid wraith]

Wasn’t workable anyway

Right now I’m trying to find if there’s any android phone I can buy that doesn’t support 5 GHz WiFi

[tidal bronze]

You have a router that can't split the bands?

[vivid wraith]

Yep, the latest Att modem router hasn’t enabled any of the advanced config

I can’t disable the WiFi, disable one of the bands, or separate them

Maybe they will enable it in a firmware update but right now I can’t

[tidal bronze]

Not acceptable. IoT must be on a 2.4 network with no band steering whatsoever

[vivid wraith]

Yeah, so I’m trying to find a phone that doesn’t support 5 GHz

[robust flicker]

As an fyi, you are able to set the att modem to just be a gateway, and use your own router behind it.\

[weak musk]

can’t you just get your own router and use that

yeah exactly what breakone9r is saying

[vivid wraith]

That was my other option

[weak musk]

that’s a MUCH better option

[vivid wraith]

I just didn’t want to set up my own WiFi until later

Since I wanted to pay to route more Ethernet through my house

[tidal bronze]

This is not the solution you should go for IMHO. Fix the network 😆

[weak musk]

100% get the network sorted

[vivid wraith]

For reference:

The new ATT router/modems for 5 gigabit internet, BGW620-700, do not have advanced configuration options enabled in the firmware yet. In particular I cannot: set separate SSID for 2.4/5ghz or disable one of them, or disable the WiFi at all

[tidal bronze]

Bridge it

[weak musk]

bridge it

[vivid wraith]

I found a random Reddit thread that if you just modify the html in the page you can change the settings and it actually works but my computer isn’t set up yet to try it

[robust flicker]

I have 2, well technically 3, different SSIDs on my wifi access points: one that has both 5ghz and 2.4ghz, shares the same name. and another one that is 2.4ghz with a different name, that one is only for my wifi smart stuff. And the only thing that really uses the first 2.4 is my old kindle paperwhite, as it doesnt support 5ghz :p

[tidal bronze]

I would rather jump off a cliff than using ISP provided routing and APs

[weak musk]

hard agree

followed by setting up a smart home, then setting it up again a week later

[vivid wraith]

ATT is really cringe it’s a whole thing to bypass it and use your own router, but you can use ip passthrough and two routers pretty easily I think

[ocean oar]

I've been dealing with consumer mesh WiFi at my in-law's house the last few days and I hate it so very, very much

[tidal bronze]

Mesh? Still in use?

[robust flicker]

AT&T annoys me greatly in other ways. Did you know that you can only get a couple of different /64 addresses/prefixes for IPv6? You can sometimes fool their system into giving you a /60 prefix... that is COMPLETELY against the IPv6 implemention rules. residential service is supposed to at least get a /56

[weak musk]

isn’t mesh a fancy word for multiple APs that work together

[robust flicker]

But, leave it to AT&T to break things

[tidal bronze]

Mesh was a thing back in the day. 😀 Home runs to AP or nothing.

[robust flicker]

Yup. there's nothing particular to it. It's just "multiple APs sharing the same SSID using wireless backhauls" instead of "multiple APs sharing the same SSID using hardwired backhauls"

I have a single wireless AP to AP set up, because it's in another building on my property, and I can't be bothered to bury 5m of cat6 😛

[tidal bronze]

I think most of this combo mesh devices fail to mention the overall tax on throughput because of multiple backhauls

[vivid wraith]

Yeah bridging just the 2.4 GHz maybe

[weak musk]

no

you bridge from their router to yours

and do whatever you want from yours

you don’t use the att router for anything other than the ethernet connection

[vivid wraith]

Oh that’s what I was going to eventually do anyway….i guess I can do it now. But I need to shop around for whatever mesh system now I guess

[tidal bronze]

Oh no. Not mesh

[robust flicker]

Typically the web UI of an AT&T modem is 192.168.1.254 the password is on the modem

Again. There's nothing special about so-called mesh systems.

[weak musk]

I will say mesh or wired APs— both will be LEAGUES better than the ATT router

[robust flicker]

They're just 2 or more APs connected via wifi using the same SSID. You can achieve the exact same thing with a pair of cheap Asus routers.

Hell, I have an old Asus here somewhere configured as an AP relay.

[tidal bronze]

Fancy Signal strength ≠ Bandwidth ≠ Throughput

[weak musk]

Gabby, did you ask Santa for a good network?

[vivid wraith]

Yeah that’s the thing that’s all locked down in the new devices which puts me in the problem in the first place

[weak musk]

maybe you’ll get lucky

[vivid wraith]

I have a sewage leak and I was stopping all purchases until I find out the financial damage

[tidal bronze]

Sorry to hear that

[weak musk]

yeah that seems slightly more important

[robust flicker]

Well. I'm smelling what smells like a sewage leak right now if that helps.. litter box in the bathroom, and the cat decided to poop at the same time as me. Ugh

[weak musk]

WAY TOO MUCH INFO

[tidal bronze]

Year end review of automations brings back memories. Darn it some are like 10 years old.

[vivid wraith]

I didn’t want to pay for the wired backhaul yet but my house is way too big for one router

[forest edge]

what I thought when I read some people build their own esp precense sensors and tuck them into walls but alas.. some people are just weird

[tidal bronze]

Gotta do it right the 1st time.

[forest edge]

its going to be 70F tomorrow.. how crazy is that

noone wants a warm xmas

thats just stupid

[vivid wraith]

So I can buy a meshing system now I guess and install wired backhaul later and fix that then

Right now I’ve only paid to get wired to my office

[shell zealot]

I used to have, still do in a box, a bunch of Philips Hue everywhere and when I built my new house my GC didn't understand that "I want cans" was all about actual cans and the sub he contracted to went pancakes on the trusses ....

So I am looking at doing switches for each room and last I looked around Innovelli was an up and comer, anyone frustrated by them or love them? I know this is just a chilling channel so if I need to pick a different one that isn't a thread just point me the way

Had a good Christmas Eve since my wife works tomorrow and my mother sent me too much cash so I can finally focus on this project 😄

[tidal bronze]

I am planning overhaul the whole house DC runs for esps to POE soon.

[shell zealot]

I think that if I go down the Innovelli route that means matter/thread

[forest edge]

planning to hire some skinny kid pretzel themself into tight areas you mean?

[robust flicker]

Matter isn't mature enough for me yet. I'll stick with zigbee, or maybe zwave

[tidal bronze]

Open up walls etc

[weak musk]

htey have zigbee and zwave too

[forest edge]

thats crazy

[shell zealot]

yeah they do have zigbee that's good

[forest edge]

I have never seen a wall patch job perfectly blend back in

[shell zealot]

I'm also not quite ready to dig in deep with matter/thread but maybe soon

[robust flicker]

I heard rumors they've actually discontinued their red (zwave) line.

[vivid wraith]

Do consumer routers these days even manage buffer bloat or do you still have to install openwrt or whatever

[shell zealot]

I don't think consumer routers need any work with 1Gb links and lower so if you have that as your max you should be fine without some new firmware

[forest edge]

you get what you pay for in consumer routers

[robust flicker]

buffer bloat is only a problem for asynchronous connections. if your up is the same as your down, it's not a problem.

[tidal bronze]

189 wifi devices is little too much. Unifi still runs like butter but time to switch all the esp32s to poe with room for expansion. I want to increase mmwave per zone to like 4

[shell zealot]

1Gb is super super easy

[weak musk]

it’s still really really rough

[shell zealot]

yeah it felt like it

[vivid wraith]

5 gigabit

[forest edge]

that seems unjustifiable expensive

[weak musk]

That’s QF’s fav

[shell zealot]

5 Gb you might want to get a "real" prosumer kind of router

[vivid wraith]

Like what

[shell zealot]

Unifi or TP-Link are my first suggestions

[weak musk]

unifi

[tidal bronze]

Unifi

[shell zealot]

you are going to probably hear 30 different suggestions but Unifi is so solid lately and I have dumped them and come back

TP-Link is that "good enough for the price" brand

[robust flicker]

everyone swears by unifi. I'm a DIY kinda guy, so I'd be going for a multi ethernet mini pc and installing opnsense on it....

[tidal bronze]

I don't use USG. But their wifi is solid.

[shell zealot]

it's not about the software, it is a little, but the hardware choice where Unifi is in control of the entire stack with opnsense you might get something good out of it

[tidal bronze]

Love the in-wall APs

[shell zealot]

my company sells the best firewalls but I can't sell them to you, need your own rep out there

[robust flicker]

My current router is a sophos 8 port firewall appliance running opnsense. It's more than sufficient for my connection, but it would struggle with 5gbe, especially since it only has 1gbe ports. Do your research. You need 5gbe or 10gbe ethernet support.

[tidal bronze]

Heard Google is rolling out 20gb

[shell zealot]

99.999999% of even us can't optimize the backend devices to really use that 😄

[tidal bronze]

Tech from Nokia.

[robust flicker]

Oh, that reminds me. I also got a 6x2.5gbe pcie card, and another 2x10gbe SFP+ card is coming. 🙂

[shell zealot]

I have a pretty decent system in a datacenter on a 10Gbe line with 512GB of buffer RAM on a ZFS array that is fully optimized and I struggle to get 10G outside of speed tests

[robust flicker]

so I'll have the hardware to upgrade from that sophos to a 2.5 capable system that can also do fiber if I ever bite the bullet and run fiber from one end of my house to the other 😛

[tidal bronze]

I ran about 5 years ago. Meh

[robust flicker]

I just haven't decided yet what to put them in. I have an older Xeon E3 server with spare pcie slots that I could drop them both in, then run opnsense in a proxmox VM.. But I am also looking at buying a used SFF PC with 2 pcie slots.... decisions, decisions.

[shell zealot]

as long as you don't try to get an rpi working 2.5+ 😄

[robust flicker]

I mean.. I do have a pi5 😛

[shell zealot]

I loved them when they came out and then every tech nerd decided it was the only thing they would run for all the things

[robust flicker]

and it, technically, could do 2.5gbe... I'd need to get an ethernet hat for it, but dual 2.5s do exist for em. 🙂

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge are you doing some voodoo crap?

4 inches of rain

[vivid wraith]

Okay time to see what the unifi options are

[robust flicker]

96% humidity. Thats why "AC? Just open a window" is such a joke here. lol

[tidal bronze]

Flash floods all over. 2 more days of rain like this. 🙄

Beautiful 70's past weekend

[robust flicker]

everything inside would rust if we opened the windows all the time 🙂

[forest edge]

is that you? we are down to 52F right now at 10pm

it was nearly 70 today and will be tomorrow

[vivid wraith]

I DID IT

I didn’t want to figure out how to set exact RGB so I just yolo’d it but whatever

[atomic delta]

Meanwhile it peaked at 76% here during a torrential rain storm...

[umbral cliff]

Nokia does a lot of networking gear

[last cedar]

I do quite like Optiplex/ Elitedesk units that have a couple pci-e slots.

[high remnant]

happy holidays

[dusty mica]

U2

[high remnant]

https://iwillnotbuynitro.com/u/classic-paltry-palatable-andeancondor.jpg 🥶

[last cedar]

Someone liked christmas dinner

I don't think deers can read, it clearly said bird seed on the package

[ocean oar]

So I'm certain there'll be astrophotography nerds who would look down on it, but damn, as a filthy casual I'm not complaining. 5 minutes of setup, then tell it to point to a thing and go.
Its app even has an option to plan a tour (it helps with where things are above the horizon to get best use of time), think you'd get 3-4 hours battery life.
Given you can just ask it "one nebula please" then just sitting there while it takes 10s exposures and stacks them, not mad about it.
Just sitting on the deck outside the house, admittedly right on the outskirts of the city but still pretty close to civilization.

[fossil walrus]

What are you talking about?

[ocean oar]

Reply to a conversation from earlier, but I'm guessing the picture didn't attach

[last cedar]

It looks absolutely amazing, regardless of what anyone else says

Although, what is a horse doing in the middle of it all?

[vivid wraith]

Ugh I wish there was a way to just make automations use a helper or something so you could change what drives the helper instead of change all your automations all the time

[high remnant]

its a space-horse. Distent relative to the Sea-horse

[last cedar]

It could be worse, you could have a few thousand lines of yaml to go through 🤣

IYKYK

[high remnant]

what is the setup/camera?

[last cedar]

Setup: pointing to the sky
Camera: yes

[high remnant]

https://share.vos.zip/u/jampacked-sardonic-jampacked-americanbulldog.jpg this is what I got when I did that

hence I am asking 😢

[last cedar]

This is basically what I get haha

[high remnant]

I wanna get something better

[last cedar]

The only thing I am ok at taking pictures of, in the dark, are fireworks

[high remnant]

hm

I could spend a crapton on better gear

[last cedar]

I realise that is a screenshot of a screenshot but it will have to do

[high remnant]

Nice

yeah I never shot firework but I can imagine exposure is an challenge

[last cedar]

It is just bulb mode with a remote release on a tripod

Honestly I mostly just try and second guess, and never expose more than about 8 seconds, it gets way highlighted

100 ISO, fireworks are bright

[high remnant]

true

maybe I should try that sometime

[last cedar]

Not an expert, just found it fun

[high remnant]

same

not good at it

but 🤷‍♂️

[last cedar]

I really want a longer lens, I only have a 15-85 on a 60D canon

You don't want to take pictures of moose with a 85mm lens 🤣

[high remnant]

well get really close

its just a bigger deer right RIGHT

[last cedar]

We have had them in the garden

[high remnant]

fuggg

I ran across some canadian moose

I'd rather do a meet and greet with a black bear

disturbingly big

[last cedar]

Just big deer

[high remnant]

the most dangerous animal I can have in my backyard is either a fox or a wolf lol

lol

yeh they;re huge

[last cedar]

Wolves scare me a bit tbh, we have foxes here too, mostly very timid

We had one that stole bread 🤣

[high remnant]

lmao

I mean I get why they're a bit scary but usually you are not food for them

the moose give me the impression they're just special

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/bAaSt.gif

[last cedar]

Lol

[high remnant]

its just too funny

[last cedar]

Moose just like to stomp things I think

[high remnant]

yyeah

[last cedar]

I haven't seen one for about a year

The video I posted was a mum and 2 kids, the kids haven't been around for ages, the mum wonders down about once a year

[high remnant]

arent they more attack-y when they have babies?

[last cedar]

We have 4 deer here, 2 mums, 2 babies, have seen a male about a year ago too, he was the first to work out that the bird feeder was actually a deer feeder too

[last cedar]

Moose are horrible with babies, yes

[high remnant]

Ah I did remember that correctly

[last cedar]

I just don't mess with them at all

[high remnant]

I mean deer in general lol

[last cedar]

Had one by my works van one day, called to let my boss know I wasn't dying that morning and I would be late

[high remnant]

🤣

[last cedar]

Honestly, the deer seem quite timid

[high remnant]

idk

they feel just as stompy as moose

[last cedar]

They run a good 20 meters away and stand and watch if you disturb them

[high remnant]

just they prefer to run away

[high remnant]

I mean I don't live with them but it would be such a funny call to make imho

"sorry I am late" "traffic?" no, moose

[last cedar]

LOL yeah

Thry do cause problems quite often, one ran into part of the local hospital and had to be shot not too long ago

As messed up as it sounds it is a believable reason because it isn't unusual

[high remnant]

I mean theyre the size of a small LKW so

[last cedar]

Trees over the road too

[high remnant]

BOBR

https://tenor.com/f9w4OKWzuDV.gif

My general impression is somehwat horse like: really stupid and randomly agros

(horses aren't randomly agro but just unwieldy)

[last cedar]

I would love to see a BOBR

I don't trust horses

Less than moose tbh

[high remnant]

my friend has a specimin that I am sure HATES me

[last cedar]

I trust a moose in a way I know it will fuck me up, and I go up to horses and know it may well fuck me up, if that makes sense

[high remnant]

it tries to be all cutesy and when you least expect it it tries to bite

[last cedar]

Exactly

Proper wankers

[high remnant]

vapid wankers

pretty sure they have no brain either

[high remnant]

poland has a TON iirc

[last cedar]

"Omg a stick, better throw my rider off and go zoom zoom"

[high remnant]

lmao

true

or just the regular self-startle

Oh shit my shadow

there's this woman in IG that street trains horses, I follow her. Her account embodies everything I do not like in horses lol

[tidal bronze]

@last cedar stop leaving things behind

[last cedar]

You wouldn't happen to know where this is, I went hunting for doormats and forgot where I left them?

[last cedar]

They get spooked so easy omg

[forest edge]

looks like a fine pair of new house slippers

[high remnant]

lol same but I dont trample you

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/merry-christmas-grinch-santa-claus-hohoho-gif-13142251

[last cedar]

I asked all my bandit friends to visit you and wish you the same

[forest edge]

Thank you. Will save me time crafting them into gift bags

[arctic quarry]

unsettling

"what's this bag dude"
"the skin of a dead animal"
😶

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/macklemore-thrift-shop-fabulous-fab-coat-gif-3580049

[jagged plaza]

Hi!
I been out of loop past year with HA.
But i just noticed raccoon related emojis, and it piqued my interest.
What are they about?

those

[amber bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-smile-evil-evil-laugh-gif-10865501938883882879

[peak slate]

This channel is actually for raccoons, not for home assistant

[jagged plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/erm-what-the-sigma-sigma-raccoon-racc-erm-gif-16967893065229403990

[fringe dagger]

do you like my deranged automation

i promise this exists for a reason

my tv remote has activities and i want casting to the shield to turn the tv on

my logic is if you cast it'll trigger shield turned on, then i can trigger setting the activity to shield which will turn the tv and reciever on. if they are already on because you used the remote then nothing happens

[atomic delta]

Just because I'm a hopeless pedant, you want the word "piqued"

[jagged plaza]

thanks, sorry, didn't know its that's how the phrase is supposed to be haha

[atomic delta]

Oh, I only mention to educate, not to shame. A -lot- of people get that one wrong.

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze assume you got an enema for xmas. prob some cardboard shaped cupcake as a reward at the end

[jagged plaza]

I apprecieate, dont worry ^^

[fallow hemlock]

I got everything running the way I want it finally.

RPI5 + docker, ha z2m, matterbridge (to connect to Google home, my wife refuses to use the ha app), grafana, prometheus, nut

[vivid wraith]

How often am I supposed to wipe my floor

Okay tomorrow I need to create my first automations with my outside lights and uhh sleep/awake for the thermostat

Then home/away next

[unborn merlin]

automations?

I mean you could also just use climate objects and then use a.. I forgot the hacs thing but its an integrated thermostat thing to automate the smartness and etc

[vivid wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-mad-waving-brush-little-girl-baby-gif-17492145

Tomorro

[unborn merlin]

https://github.com/jmcollin78/versatile_thermostat

This was the one.

[static schooner]

Eric Deggans (TV critic) speaking truth: https://www.threads.com/@edeggans/post/DSsxApViQqR

[teal pilot]

I haven't really worked with home assistant since I set it up 4 years ago, but my wife got me a Voice preview edition for Christmas. Kind of excited to get back into this, just hoping backup & restore works the way I want since my old system was 32-bit

[teal pilot]

(spoiler: backup & restore appears to work as expected, obscure shelly relay automations work great still, now I get to update all the packages that discontinued 32-bit support) 🙂

[high remnant]

as it turns out: Unifi's usernames are case sensitive

https://tenor.com/bVG7l.gif

[minor bobcat]

Cheapest DDR5 16gb I can buy right now fuuuuuuck

[dawn badge]

yeah its crazy, its now up to half of what apple charges for ram.

[steel pumice]

man I wish I had a water cooler

it's hot af

[solar zealot]

It's called a fridge

You can use it to warm in the food out cold the food

and beverages

[high remnant]

its -5 here so mans not hot

[steel pumice]

hot + worst weather

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/bRkyh.gif

must be an ozzie or a kiwi

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-stranger-things-5-stranger-things-season-5-demogorgon-roar-gif-942815864838040896

[scenic radish]

Well at least they're honest 🤣

sorry boss, we don't have a fucking clue where it went

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/bH6gp.gif

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/freezing-south-park-fireplace-gif-12876442

[static schooner]

We think Santa may have stolen it

[robust flicker]

Dear life, can you please stop! Or at least buy me dinner first.

[weak musk]

Damn that’s a nasty blowout

[high remnant]

that tire is from 2013?

[robust flicker]

Front right, too. No. 2023.

[high remnant]

ah

can’t see due to compression

[robust flicker]

I'm gonna go see if the place I got them from will do a warranty, but they're closed. Sometimes small towns suck. 🤣

[high remnant]

well i don’t think they can plug this

but you can try

[robust flicker]

Yeah, this is a manufacturing defect. On the inside, you can see where it started. Looks like a bubble popped.

If they don't, I'll just buy a tire. But I'm gonna at least try to get a free one first. 🤣

The bad part is, I had to dig in the side panel of my car to get the lug/jack tool because it fell off its mount and fell all the way down inside the fender well. Buried to my elbow into my car's innards fishing around going "ugh, please be dirt and not mouse guts"

[unborn merlin]

ahhhh sam altmans head on a fucking pike sounds really good right now doesn't it?

🙃

[minor bobcat]

I wish his sleeves got wet when he washes his hands and his stupid AI tells him how to get them dry in that annoying tiktok voice 24/7 non stop

[robust flicker]

What's going to be nice is, when they finally spin up enough chip manufacturing to meet the AI needs, and then the AI bubble pops. the entire semiconductor industry is going to bottom out. I can't wait.

[arctic quarry]

I wonder what powerhungry people will do with an abundance of cheap compute

[minor bobcat]

After OpenAi spent the money from Nvidia spent the money from TSMC spent the money from ASML spent the money from OpenAi spent the money from Nvidia...

[arctic quarry]

and entire oceans of personally identifiable information

surely nothing silly, right? ...right?

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/no-sonny-i-robot-gif-23790834

[arctic quarry]

I'm convinced

such a trustworthy face

something about its eyes

[high remnant]

https://iwillnotbuynitro.com/u/warmhearted-acrobatic-fancy-antarcticfurseal.jpeg

https://tenor.com/view/omg-excited-jumping-buddy-elf-gif-14281886350832588640

[last cedar]

Good thing it didn't throw you off the motorway at high speed, but god that is shit 🙁

[zinc birch]

The clearance stuff should all be zigbee
I loaded the fuck up on smart plugs and remotes and some sensors, for like $6 each you can't beat it

[robust flicker]

Yeah. Anyone with their whole hand on the wheel, and not just a few fingers should be able to keep that from happening with my little Honda.. 🙂

[hazy kindle]

Unfortunately IKEA in my country (Ireland) don't ship a bunch of stuff for no good reason at all... I only managed to get a couple dimmer switches (RODRET)

All the stuff I wanted was listed as "only ships in the big truck"

[shell zealot]

I have been spending my last couple weeks getting back into painting Warhammer 40k and I thought cardboard crack was expensive but this plastic crack is out of this world in sunk costs

I am looking at "saving thousands" and buying a resin printer and all of the accoutrements that I'll need for around $1k

[ocean oar]

You would need to be printing entire armies for both you and all your friends to remotely break even

[shell zealot]

possibly, just one 2k point army that I'm looking at is $900 according to toll hammer and that's not even a popular or expensive army

I'm back and forth on it because I don't actually play the game, I just like painting and the resin printer could give me interesting things to paint that are more detailed than my FDM

[ocean oar]

This is one of my colleagues, we were testing our new person-scale 3d scanner at work and this is one of the first decent models we got out of it

Here's one I printed and someone else painted

Including the base, 58mm tall

[shell zealot]

yeah that's neat

which resin printer are you using? I'm staring at a Saturn 4 ultra 16k

[ocean oar]

Formlabs Form3

[shell zealot]

I have a Creality K2+ for FDM

[static schooner]

Now you just need a person-sized 3D printer

[ocean oar]

The expensive enterprise option, because I made a decision on the time/money scale

[shell zealot]

yeah if you are doing things for money it's the way to go

I won't make a dime

99% of my 3D printing decisions are build plate size and then ease of use second, some aspects of the Saturn 4 are not great but it has a lot of pros for home usage

[ocean oar]

I have done short-notice prints for colleagues a few times, printer will fit 10-12 standard-size minis and I can generally crank out two full print runs (printed, cleaned, post-processed) in a weekend. People seem to be happy to pay the $6 or so it averages out

[shell zealot]

I grew up working in polystyrene resins (if I recall correctly since I was young) which are a catalyst driven and you use methyl ethyl ketone peroxide to do that - I've been avoiding resin for so very long because I hate the feel of it but that was a different world

and that was the 90's

[ocean oar]

It definitely isn't pleasant stuff.

[shell zealot]

back then I was doing 55 gallon drums of it and washing my body in acetone

[past rampart]

hi is there somewhere i can go for open thread border router / matter over thread troubleshooting

[candid wraith]

Did the latest Unifi Protect firmware upgrade break automations for anyone else?

Motion is no longer available

[static schooner]

#1284966617670881350

[past rampart]

thx

[static schooner]

#1284966582375813201

[sinful plinth]

does someone know Vintagestory the game? I wann know if i'm the only one who wanna display some stats (like weather, player count, time & date)

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-uh-oh-oh-shit-weird-science-trouble-gif-9859112

[forest edge]

anyone brave enough to run the frigate 17.0 beta yet?

[static schooner]

Yep

No issues

[forest edge]

were you using a coral?

[static schooner]

Yes

Literally no change from 16 except some cosmetic stuff

I feel like @tidal bronze was involved in this: https://www.threads.com/@local12wkrc/post/DSupSajgHPN?xmt=AQF03Xb_jWUHtkbwS1TYEEfd5HcYVQl22-hfmaFmPuaHtK7h21-b3SpBWCRUHB4nTfJ3iwj4&slof=1

[crisp cliff]

Does anyone have a smart scale they like that works with home assistant

I saw there is a eufy integration but I can't find any eufy scales on Amazon

[static schooner]

#1284966353798697001

[steel pumice]

whoever made this routers settings page should go to hell

more like "hardmesh"

[solar zealot]

Well it's probably pretty great if this doesn't use odd frameworks

[tidal bronze]

I missed out on this. Whole lobster as back at Costco 😀

[warm helm]

We don't need to clone you

[warm helm]

Well. Buy a better one

[forest edge]

wtf is up with the HP secure boot crap

this pc the woman's dad bought is a complete nightmare

[solar zealot]

On today's episode of: old people not understanding technology

[dusty mica]

At the end: Next week on..

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-brooks-hatlen-the-shawshank-redemption-is-that-so-disappointed-gif-23667336

[dusty mica]

nothing wrong with older people!!! I Am, I Said

well, not that old

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/jumanji-huh-what-whut-confused-gif-16527363

[dusty mica]

Should i type louder??

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/what-huh-i-cant-hear-you-old-man-grandpa-gif-11185415

[dusty mica]

LOUDER

[forest edge]

is that what it's called? I thought it was just unnecessary HP headaches

[dusty mica]

damn HP

[forest edge]

I had to go in and disable it just to run ventoy lol

[solar zealot]

Secure boot is pretty standard for anything since 2012

[arctic quarry]

"understanding technology" is not the same thing as "navigating shit UI and getting drenched with leaking abstractions" tho

[dusty mica]

noice

[solar zealot]

There shouldn't really be a reason to disable it

[forest edge]

yea well tell HP that

[solar zealot]

Have you tried their customer service :^)

"service"

[forest edge]

no thanks

this thing had like a whole bitlocker drive lock and everything.. was comical it took 60 seconds of google to bypass all the crap

[solar zealot]

Turning stuff off really doesn't bypass anything

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/c4WJsp16CpY?si=QMYt_9zk9gQkjDm2

[solar zealot]

Neither should you really want to turn off disk encryption or software signature verification

Unless you are about to install the 7th browser toolbar

:P

[forest edge]

I wanted to wipe the drive

I shouldn't have to perform circus acts to do so

[solar zealot]

You kinda should else people end up doing it unintentional

Common sense ain't that common

[forest edge]

you know what HP tells people for the consumer line of these machines when someone loses the drivelock password?

[solar zealot]

Tho realistically can't you just boot into a windows boot media stick, then reinstall from there with wiping a disk?

[forest edge]

to throw away the disk

[dusty mica]

drill 3 holes in hdd

faster

[solar zealot]

I don't recall having issues that way with anything once

They made it pretty convenient

[forest edge]

prob cause you never had to mess with one where the crap was preset

[solar zealot]

It's present on anything since 2012

[forest edge]

this machine came to me like this and I sure as hell don't believe her dad set that up lol

it was a refurb machine but jesus

[solar zealot]

It should be enabled by default somewhere along those times

Never trust a refurb tho

[forest edge]

never trust an HP you mean

no other machine I ever worked on had this crap

[solar zealot]

Haven't had trouble with HP PCs either yet, it's always just their printers

[forest edge]

its just the compnay

where the hell is @clear ferry to come defend his love child

[solar zealot]

What if you angered atx and he remote setup this to be painful

The tinfoil hats were right after all

[forest edge]

I should have looked to see what variation of HP elitedesk this was before starting this low level disk wipe

[solar zealot]

another subscription service that is way too expensive

[high remnant]

ew paypal

https://tenor.com/view/mad-upset-disbelief-old-lady-gif-17562624271251231721

[solar zealot]

thats like paying for an ide kinda money but its for ssh

i hate how there is no self hostable alternative

[high remnant]

same energy as everything demanding you install an app or give it internet access

[solar zealot]

i dont hate on it if it were fairly priced, subscriptions can be fine

if its priced at the "we rather not have you as customer" price, then that is just stupid

looking at you autocad

[jaunty breach]

does anyone here have wall mounted dimmers that they love? I'm using the shellys but i'm kinda blah on them (tho they look really nice)

[high remnant]

lmao i mean they’d rather have b2b sales. i have a hobby license for 0 cost but it’s just irritating to work with

anyhow most subscriptions simply are not with it

[solar zealot]

they dont which is so terrible

like you get it free as a student

but then they want 2200€ a year

or you to not use autocad and go with the limited variant of the specd down application of fusion 360

rather earn 0 than a couple hundred bucks

pretty sad that we cant just have nice things

[fresh bramble]

Got a new disk drive

Spent the last day ripping movies and transcoding them for jellyfin

[high remnant]

oh my bad i use fusion indeed lol

i don’t need more

[hoary canyon]

HP consumer products are generally crap but their business stuff is ok IMO

Same for Dell consumer vs business

[nova ocean]

i think something is wrong with my sunspec integration....

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-eyes-steve-buscemi-big-eyes-gif-11491116276663604660

[solar zealot]

using all the energy all the time

[crisp oriole]

Mining bitcoins are you?

[solar zealot]

dont you hate it when your neighbors just summon the sun at your window

[high remnant]

that is how my neighbors feel when i arrive with led matrix lol

[last cedar]

I put an LED extra light on my Volvo finally

it is like having the sun on the front of the car

240W LED

I angled it down slightly since filming that

[high remnant]

yeah i have that too

love it

https://iwillnotbuynitro.com/u/aggravating-cautious-oblong-abyssiniancat.mp4

[solar zealot]

lets iluminate the sky incase a bird comes at me

:P

[high remnant]

it’s for the tree bears

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/koalosaurus-koala-savage-gif-25718701

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-me-bear-lightsaber-funny-gif-13381762

[normal badge]

using Shelly relays behind dumb momentary rocker switches (e.g.) with the Shelly relays in detached mode is my recommendation

lutron makes some really nice switches too but some of their features don't work with HA. most of them have dimming sliders with LED indicators for brightness levels that can't be synced with HA light states so even if you use dimming-compatible smart relays, if you control the lights outside of the physical switch (including any automation) then the indicators get uncoupled from actual/visible brightness

inovelli's switches are the best for HA integration but it's pretty spendy to fit a whole home out with those. I think I priced my place out at $1500 (20 switches), and just wasn't willing to pull the trigger on that. I get most of the same function out of $320 of Shelly Mini 1 Gen4s + $240 dumb switches

[high remnant]

maybe i’m just drunk

but what the hell

[normal badge]

[arctic quarry]

small indie startup

[hoary canyon]

I like the various Z-Wave dimmers on the market. Inovelli and Zooz seem to be good although I haven’t used them

[weak musk]

Both are great. This is better for #1284966353798697001 though

[vivid wraith]

I set up my first automation to turn on and off my outside lights :^)

https://tenor.com/view/math-dancing-kermit-the-frog-gif-1029729261069857005

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/witch-montypython-holygrail-shesawitch-gif-18421113243521844256

[near galleon]

are there any antennae supporting zigbee 4.0 yet? preferably zigbee 4.0 and matter

[scenic radish]

No, ZB 4.0 was just announced, so it will likely be a few years before anything even makes it to the market

[near galleon]

oh ok - anything that can handle 3.0 and matter and isnt PoE?

[static schooner]

#1284966617670881350

[near galleon]

are these forums for anything even casual questions? they seem like tech support lol

[static schooner]

please post there, that's what it's for

[vivid wraith]

now I have to do presence detection and bedtime detection for thermostat

[past rampart]

do you need global ipv6 for matter over thread to work?

[young sigil]

Ask in #1284966617670881350

[stuck mortar]

I call that setting a schedule and flipping the switch when I leave the room

[hoary canyon]

Gonna have to get a bed sensor now 🤣

[young sigil]

Manually flipping a switch is not automation. It is remote control.

[golden wing]

oklahoma moment

[jaunty breach]

I've played with that, it feels cheap tho, maybe i'm using the wrong rockers, or wrong config.

[normal badge]

What was the connectivity to your HA instance? Were the relays connected via wifi or zigbee?

[golden wing]

inovelli white series (matter-over-thread) dimmers have been working great for me

have 15 of them set up

[young sigil]

Take this discussion to #1284966353798697001 please.

[hybrid dust]

Hey all, quick weird question but I just got a new router I want to use, and I want to change the ssid for the new router - I've got ha running on proxmox along with about 25 WiFi devices (mostly Shelly relays) - is there a good way to transfer everything to the new router?

[dusty mica]

@hybrid dust use same IP range and SSID's/Passwords as the old router. Best case is to add static ip's for devices in router and use dhcp for devices itself. If you use the same network settings as the old router, your devices will show up on new router. Otherwise create a new thread in https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284966540617449515

[mortal walrus]

if you want to change the wifi ssid, you're probably going to have to individually re-setup a lot of devices :/

[hybrid dust]

Yeah, I want to change the ssid unfortunately

[glacial knot]

I finished moving devices to my new SSID just yesterday

granted, I had multiple active and just didn't bother for a couple months

[hybrid dust]

Any tips 😛

[vivid wraith]

for what it’s worth the channel description thing says it’s for just issues and not like, recommendations or discussion. might be worth updating the description to fit the intent

sorry meant to reply to the hardware one

[young sigil]

There's a recommendations tag. Use it.

[vivid wraith]

what would you like me to post?

[young sigil]

Here? Anything but HA support questions. As per the channel description.

[vivid wraith]

huh?

[young sigil]

Preferably raccoon pictures.

[forest edge]

try being a little further north

[last cedar]

Keep the cups of tea flowing, you will need it

And also, don't eat yellow snow

2 tips

[crisp oriole]

Oke nabu please translate this to international values

[vivid wraith]

sat has high of 304 K and low of 283K, sun has high of 293K and low of 271K, and Mon has high of 275K and low of 267K

does anyone really use international system of units for weather though

i only ever see celsius and fahrenheit

[arctic quarry]

lol

tbf Celsius is just like signed Kelvin

or ig Kelvin is unsigned Celsius

[vivid wraith]

it’s actually lowercase, kelvin

[arctic quarry]

poor kelvin

[vivid wraith]

but Celsius is indeed uppercase (for the unit)

[arctic quarry]

is it 32° that's the same in C and F? can never remember

[glacial knot]

Kelvin is also a proper name. Only the unit symbol is lower case

[arctic quarry]

no that doesn't sound right

[glacial knot]

it's -40° for equilibrium

[vivid wraith]

the symbol is uppercase

[arctic quarry]

right

makes more sense

[glacial knot]

32 burgers is 0°s

[vivid wraith]

the unit name is lowercase

[arctic quarry]

oh yeah

and 100°F is roughly body temperature iirc

[vivid wraith]

you can write it uppercase if you’re writing in German 🙂

[glacial knot]

it's Horse's body temperature

[arctic quarry]

of course

[glacial knot]

which is pretty close to human

I wonder if it drifts at the same rate

[arctic quarry]

so when someone says "it's 100°F outside" that's some pretty serious heat

[dusty mica]

(C)orrect, (F)alse

[vivid wraith]

I think 100 degrees fahrenheit is what i have my bidet water set to

[dusty mica]

proper popo

[crisp oriole]

Thank you that is quite adrop

[high remnant]

lmao

how many bald eagles per hamburger?

[last cedar]

-40 F is also -40 C

Ah, Ongy beat me to it

[last cedar]

You could set it to 100C

Then you wouldn't have anything left to clean a 2nd time

Can't clean you bum if you have no bum

[high remnant]

metric is just weird ngl

[last cedar]

You say that

But a 1 meter cube of water is exactly 1000 liters and weighs exactly 1000kg

[high remnant]

omg

omg

no I mean Imperical

christ

https://tenor.com/3iPMYSRXY2.gif

[last cedar]

Instead of something that is 2560373637 1000ths of an inch cubed is exactly 373829363839.48473 american gallons of water that weighs 12 cheeseburgers

[last cedar]

I bloody well hope so 🤣

Haha

[high remnant]

Oh no I do

sorry I just woke up

[last cedar]

It is okay, happens to the best of us

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/grVdjN9JO2G.gif

[last cedar]

My dad still uses terms like " 3 inch 10" for screws

https://tenor.com/view/confused-what-monkey-gif-10997823

And I am like this

[high remnant]

🤣

yeah metric is way more logical

[last cedar]

I started doing rough conversions in my head when I speak to him to make it easier

[high remnant]

I mean bad conversions causes us to lose a rocket lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Climate_Orbiter

[minor bobcat]

thats why I have a map of the location of the sun tattooed on my arm lol

[solar zealot]

They should really make it a bright glowing orb in the sky so one could tell easily

[minor bobcat]

what an insane idea

[dawn badge]

is it just an "up" arrow?

[high remnant]

waddupdowg

[sudden sigil]

[last cedar]

I believe the Hubble telescope was also out of focus when it was launched because of bad metric/ imperial conversions

[last cedar]

Can I borrow you when my solar panels output is low?

That is a crazy cool looking tattoo btw

[last cedar]

I leave the cat alone for 5 minutes...

[arctic quarry]

"well apparently my six-story fort maze with a heated blanket and an automatic food dispenser ain't building itself"

[umbral fulcrum]

I didn't want to make a post unless had to but can we use the model runner in docker and have HA use that instead of running ollama?

[silent dove]

The topic of this channel is:

There’s no support here - only chill. Come in, grab a drink, chat with your fellow community members! This is a space to talk to other smart home enthusiasts. If you’re "just asking a question", you're asking for support. Head to https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284968640189304913 to help you find where you should post your question. No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

[high remnant]

https://iwillnotbuynitro.com/u/early-canine-canine-adouri.mp4

[last cedar]

Mmmm

Definately worth checking the pressure now and then

I think I need to let a little out of mine

[crisp oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/under-pressure-bowie-mercury-david-bowie-freddie-mercury-queen-under-pressure-bowie-queen-gif-8079702464903638125

[high remnant]

same

TPMS triggered while doing 240 lol

[peak slate]

Isn't that on voyagers 1 & 2

[last cedar]

So fancy having tpms 😛

I have a guage I can put on!

[minor bobcat]

correct

[last cedar]

Seems like we will have -9C next week so maybe I should leave it as it is

Iirc it was perhaps 1 to 2 psi high at about 4C

[stuck mortar]

Just hook it up to Hubvarna!

[crisp oriole]

Where are the tatoos of hello in all languages

[last cedar]

I am trying, still won't connect to each other 🙁

[minor bobcat]

ew, people I only want to communicate with aliens

https://tenor.com/view/alien-guy-thats-crazy-woozy-crazy-scientist-gif-8609893263374809391

[stuck mortar]

Try connecting it with trimmer cable to see if it’s an interference problem

[peak slate]

Nice! 🚀

[crisp oriole]

just pray

[last cedar]

I never thought to use TP cable (trimmer pair)

[stuck mortar]

You can also try putting the hub in compatibility mode by lowering the throttle, but don’t forget to check the carburetor too

[last cedar]

Actually, funny story, I can't throttle back with it

I could do with seeing what is causing that

The little rod is moving the spindle

But I am not sure if the valve is attached to the spindle anymore

maybe this is why I can't pair it to home assiatant

[distant jewel]

https://www.bbc.com/urdu/articles/crmdgkr00lro automation in early 1940s and 1950s

He was named hans raj Wireless

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/archive/musings/a-man-before-his-time-713733/

https://wildcat-disndat.blogspot.com/2016/11/hansraj-wireless.html?m=1

[golden wing]

thank you to whoever decided to add this feature to the kodi web interface

GOAT

[vivid wraith]

You can’t actually set the temp directly there’s just 5 presets

[last cedar]

Awww 🙁

[minor bobcat]

Hottest one is Mordor

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/so-hot-right-now-trending-meme-zoolander-this-is-epic-gif-26091622

[scenic radish]

Well they apparently found it but look at this new expected delivery date 🤣

we'll get it to you sometime in the next year

[iron granite]

At least they settled on the year.

[stuck mortar]

12/29/26: we’re attempting to locate your package

[high remnant]

what happens in transit stays in transit

[arctic quarry]

the actual hell

[scenic radish]

I assume it's some weird glitch, but my headcanon is funnier

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge I survived, 🙂

[vivid wraith]

install smart doorbell camera

I already got the Amazon guy on video yeeting a package onto my property lmao

[forest edge]

lungs ok? did you swallow a 3d mapping device?

[tidal bronze]

3 days of vaping, iqos and hookah. Gotta keep tabs

[forest edge]

yea I don't think lung issues show up that quick lol

I noticed they left off the stomach condition.. guess they didn't want to make you worry

[tidal bronze]

LOL, Grafana does not lie

[forest edge]

thats a lot of insects and gerbils you are eating

[forest edge]

funny how you buy stuff on a wim years ago that turn out to be life savers out of the blue like one of those usb to ethernet adapters

[tidal bronze]

Those always come in handy

[sinful plinth]

OMFG! YESSS!!!!
To all who ask what that is: This is data from my vintagestory server!

[forest edge]

is that a minecraft ripoff or some kind of mega mod for minecraft

[static schooner]

You got me thinking about terminating my reverse proxy in pfSense and I just got HAProxy working there for a couple of services. I've added basic http auth for one service, so that works as well as with NPM. And ACME will handle cert renewals for me. Now to decide if there's anything I'd be missing

NPM has a heck of a lot nicer UI, but nearly anything beats pfSense configuration for just about anything

it's pretty straightfoward to add new services once you have everything set up properly

[sinful plinth]

it was originally a mod for mc and then they decided to make it there own game

[solar needle]

Vintagestory was supposed to be a Minecraft Mod (TerraFirmaCraft), but then well, it developed into something that was more then just a Minecraft Mod, and turned into a Own game.

Vintagestory is far more realistic then Minecraft, and has (well for me) better Graphics, but Minecraft has well the Nether, you can be more creative and stuff.

[agile smelt]

Some interesting lines on the graph lol, I don't think it was made for these low values

[toxic parrot]

Anyone have a cleaner way to cast youtube and jellyfin from my phone to browser instances on my laptop?

Both offer remote control

But I can only think of super hacky ways of switching which window to show

I can script my window manager and I can probably determine what is playing based on tcpdump but before I do something stupid like that I wonder if there is a kind of casting that would take both

I dont want to just screen mirror I want the laptop to be pulling it's own stuff and just use the phone as a remote

[dusty mica]

Music Assistant?

[crisp oriole]

This is support make a thread. But you can install a browser for every video service you dont use for browsing and control that.

[high remnant]

https://iwillnotbuynitro.com/u/paltry-classic-aching-afghanhound.jpeg talk me out of this

[orchid rose]

That's pretty cool

[minor bobcat]

It's gonna break

[high remnant]

that’s why i am at the dealer. it broke

[peak slate]

If someone needs to talk you out of buying an over priced light bulb, you got bigger problems?

[high remnant]

lmao that’s for sure

i make bad financial decisions

[peak slate]

Now make it wled operated and RGB lit, then it'd be cool

Could make it really look like bubbles then

[high remnant]

i can probably find this on ali for 5 euro

[dusty mica]

tuyaudi

[vivid wraith]

I have 5 spot lights on the side of my house