hint: shop on the shelly website
#the-water-cooler
unborn merlin
high remnant
:o
ocean oar
Hrm, I do need to think about control hardware for some outdoor lights I'm planning to install. Maybe this is a good time to buy
Biggest decision to make: do the lights for my new outdoor stairs in the garden need to be RGB, or just white 🤣
iron granite
Yes
dawn badge
I have the stuff for new outdoor LED strip but i haven't deployed yet. I got RGB although ill probably only use it as white most of the time.
except when the house is in "Alarm Mode" in which case it will alternate red and blue like every other controlable light in and around the house.
ocean oar
I'm thinking "eyelid" lights recessed in the front of each step, that shine downward. This sort of design:
dawn badge
nice
ocean oar
Can find white, warm/cold, RGB and RGBW versions of those
honest moat
Conversation from another server, thought I might as well bring it over here too
I'm a bit surprised that there isn't a simple "occupancy" helper in HomeAssistant. Most of my occ/vac setups are pretty much the same, and could probably be handled nicely by some sort of helper. All they really do is take input from sensors, and have outputs they control, and a configured dwell time that starts when all sensors go low, and if not retriggered, turns off the outputs
iron granite
Those are template helpers.
honest moat
Yeah, thats mostly what I'm using. But it just seems a curious omission, as a group sensor could also be covered by a template sensor, and inversely an "occ" sensor could get a nice ux like how groups have
(i'm not angling for it to be added, this isn't a feature request haha)
thorny heron
My triangulation adventure is getting out of hands 🥲
20 dedicated nodes for it
and 7 esp32 devices used as additional BLE nodes
honest moat
i've been meaning to set up a bermuda system, but haven't done it yet
thorny heron
Be sure to have a robust wifi at first!
That was the root of most of my issues
I now lowered the DB of my WIFI antennas to a bare minimum and it works well
dawn badge
I am at 26 currently. after I changed some stuff around. was at 30 at one point I think
thorny heron
27 heere with the ESP devices
scenic radish
Hotbox
thorny heron
I got 7 ESP everything smart presence
dawn badge
will loose some more when i set up new zigbee network which will replace some devices that have proxies
thorny heron
> Hotbox
<a:SmokeWeed:612253378105311243>
Two floor hotbox*
Here in canada, weed is legal, so we do it in grand 😛
thorny heron
will loose some more when i set up new zigbee network which will replace some de...
why not leave them as dedicated eps32s for that?
20 of mine have only the BLE proxy as code in them
silent doveBOT
@thorny heron I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:
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they are shelly devices that are also proxies. I have some dedicated ones about too. will see if i neeed any more after. i dont really use bermuda to automate on anyway. its just handy to track people sometimes.
my dedicated ones are a bit crap though. I might build some better ones. at some point. but 1 issue at a time 😛
thorny heron
you can do cool stuff, when my phone ring per instance, it tells me where it is ringing, on the closest speaker to my current location
'Your phone is ringing near the kitchen'
PEr instance
thorny heron
my dedicated ones are a bit crap though. I might build some better ones. at some...
get ones with external antenna, changed the game for me
They went from wifi dropping eveyr day to almost never
dawn badge
get ones with external antenna, changed the game for me
yeah this setup is a bit crap
thorny heron
Your outlets have on-off switches?
dawn badge
Your outlets have on-off switches?
Welcome to the UK Plug and sockets 🙂 they are the best!
thorny heron
That's kinda cool , not gonna lie 😛
dawn badge
you can get non-switched versions but they are not the normal. you almost never see them.
old but relevant Tom Scott video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEfP1OKKz_Q
thorny heron
Here we get only 1800Watts and shitty outlets hahaha
dawn badge
we are oddly patriotic about our plugs over here...
high remnant
you guys have plugs? i just twist copper together
dawn badge
technically... we do have a second type of plug. its mostly the same but round pins.
our normal plugs are 13A and round pin ones are 5A. again you almost never see these.
ocean oar
Welcome to the UK Plug and sockets 🙂 they are the best!
And yet you insist on screwing the faceplates on with slotted-head screws.
All of those good features, and then... that.
Also visible screws, blergh.
dawn badge
And yet you insist on screwing the faceplates on with slotted-head screws.
All o...
pretty much the only use for m3.5 screws...
high remnant
i too have plugs
dawn badge
you can get sockets and switches that are 2 parts. the main plate which screws in and a faceplate that clips over if you want to hide screws.
or you can put caps over them (which are a real pain to get out when you need too)
ocean oar
Schneider (who bought a local NZ brand called "PDL" who designed these) have been desperately trying to kill this product range in favour of their significantly shittier "Iconic" range, but one of the long-time "standard" ranges here is this, called the "600 series".
Comes in black and white, horizontal and vertical, and universally faceplates that cover the screws. Have 1/2/4 power outlets and 1-6 module plates. The modular ones take switches, and assorted high- (dimmers, PIR sensors) and low-voltage (A/V, etc) modules, also adapters to keystone jacks.
high remnant
super useful summary
🥰🥰🥰
heater in living room has been set to different temperatures; last setting was 15 degrees
dawn badge
Schneider (who bought a local NZ brand called "PDL" who designed these) have bee...
we have some modular stuff too but its only really used if you want/need a mix of stuff random stuff together
we have stuff like the big boy quad media plate
can put a bunch of random things in the modules
you see these in new builds where they think the TV should go etc... but honestly most people dont like them that much.
forest edge
we have stuff like the big boy quad media plate
hoary canyon
we have stuff like the big boy quad media plate
interesting, in the US we use “gang” boxes 1 gang is a regular size box and it goes up from there
dawn badge
we have gang too, 1 gang is 1 socket, 2 gang is 2 sockets. the above big media plate is basically 4x2 gangs put together
grizzled gull
@hollow glacier I'm a little late but 😉
hoary canyon
we have gang too, 1 gang is 1 socket, 2 gang is 2 sockets. the above big media p...
interesting they use the same name but it’s visibly different mounting styles
as for the “slots” for media stuff we call those keystones
hollow glacier
<@237771007228641292> I'm a little late but 😉
are they running wled?
grizzled gull
I just took em out of the box and flashed them, so just default effects
grizzled gull
I saw that, I ordered 4 more of this years, thanks for the fundraising
hollow glacier
I saw that, I ordered 4 more of this years, thanks for the fundraising
yeah the profits go to a children's charity (Casa of Lexington) and the Open Home Foundation which is pretty cool
dawn badge
as for the “slots” for media stuff we call those keystones
keystones are used here in network racks etc... but not really for general stuff. i think you can probably get a plate for using keystone form factor if you wanted to though. although depending on the modules used you might have to do some extra earthing stuff if its in the same box as mains power. euro modules tend to be already up to spec for it as its expected to be a possible or even likely use case.
you can make most stuff compliant if you want to
hoary canyon
that’s interesting how you guys differ the plate side vs a patch panel keystone. I feel like we actually have it a bit better there then lol
most people still don’t combine power and low volt here though
Separate plates
dawn badge
yeah, with big media plates we can have power/antenna/video-connectors/lan etc...
hoary canyon
I do like that you guys use WAGOs instead of janky wire nuts however
dawn badge
do i personally think its a good idea? no... not really.
hoary canyon
wish that was standard here in the states
dawn badge
wish that was standard here in the states
is it a matter off just waiting for older people to retire/die?
hoary canyon
is it a matter off just waiting for older people to retire/die?
that and probably also people just don’t want to change because wagos are more expensive by a good bit here
For DIYers though I’d 100% recommend wagos over wire caps/nuts
dawn badge
"i have done it this way for 40 years, so you the person i pay the salary of will do it this way"
hoary canyon
yep that’s the typical excuse I see and that they can get a crap ton of bulk wire caps for only like 1/2 as many wago connectors
There’s a good comparison in price.. you can get like 500 wire caps for $20
dawn badge
the money you save in time and fault finding is worth it. that being said the US mains system has so many problems anyway...
hoary canyon
the money you save in time and fault finding is worth it. that being said the US...
For sure but the typical residential electrician who has a boss that’s old school won’t use them to save “money”
even though it probably saves them time to use wagos
dawn badge
There’s a good comparison in price.. you can get like 500 wire caps for $20
to be fair, if they were more popular they would be cheaper.
economy of scale
hoary canyon
I wouldn’t be surprised if they eventually take over but it’d probably be like 20+ years
dawn badge
you need to join the rest of the world on a sensible standard voltage and get rid of the insane centre tapped transformers for every house.
hoary canyon
lol that probably won’t change at this point
literally every home would need to be rewired
dawn badge
the fact that your "neutral" is the centre if the transformer is just silly
hoary canyon
you guys have arc fault and ground fault on basically everything don’t you?
Arc fault is only recently becoming required on most circuits and ground fault the same here
dawn badge
you guys have arc fault and ground fault on basically everything don’t you?
arc fault detection is now a requirement in our consumer units (breaker box) and every circuit has MCB and RCD protection. and of course in the UK we have a fuse in every plug too.
hoary canyon
that’s nice..
dawn badge
our regulations are moving along and adapting super quickly at the moment with all the new tech coming in.
hoary canyon
we used to only put Ground fault outlets by places that could contact water like outside and by water sources but now it seems like most circuits have breakers that include ground fault circuitry
I wish we had a good option here for smart breakers on that topic.. all the breaker replacements I’ve seen need a cloud service
dawn badge
we dont put sockets in places where they could contact water
hoary canyon
we dont put sockets in places where they could contact water
We just slap weatherproof covers on them typically
unless inside
dawn badge
yeah we have weatherproof setups for outdoors but talking about inside
hoary canyon
you guys don’t use hair dryers or curling irons in the bathroom? 🤣
dawn badge
we can have "shaver sockets" in bathrooms but they are super low current. and protected by an isolation transformer which limits is.
hoary canyon
interesting, I think I remember seeing that somewhere now you mention it
dawn badge
its for a electric shaver or something. but no we dont use dryers and irons in the bathroom
some of them have a centre tap on the isolation transformer to give a 115 option.
you get them with usb ports on these days too but its not super common
hoary canyon
Ah nice. We have USB outlets on the market here also but most people don’t install them
I regret buying a USB A outlet a couple of years ago now that C has taken over lol
dawn badge
i think its 0.3A max at mains voltage
its 0.2A even
even the light switches are on the outside of bathrooms
you can have them inside but they have to be on a pull string. so the switch is in a sealed unit on the ceiling and you pull a non conductive string to toggle.
technically if your bathroom was big enough you COULD have normal sockets. there are "zones" around water sources and things are relaxed the further out you go. but even then unless it was absolutly massive i dont think anyone would install them.
you would have to be something like 3 or 5 meters away from everything that has water as any part of it etc...
grizzled gull
Am I the only one who enjoys watchign distro upgrades via terminal versus gui...
dawn badge
Am I the only one who enjoys watchign distro upgrades via terminal versus gui...
who enjoys watching them. I am off for a walk pretending not to think about all the stuff that can fall over...
ocean oar
Here you just have to have RCD (GFCI) outlets in the bathroom or combo RCD breakers. Our bathroom has an otherwise normal dual 10A outlet next to the sink
grizzled gull
enjoy maybe a be an overreach, but I think its because I can see the actual progress versus depending on a status bar lol
dawn badge
Here you just have to have RCD (GFCI) outlets in the bathroom or combo RCD break...
i think we can technically install low poer shaver sockets in "zone 2" if they are lower power ones. but mostly you only see them in "zone 3"
this shows zones 0/1/2 pretty well
ocean oar
The light switch being outside the room is the funniest part of any of this, tbh
Keeping outlets away from water - while pretty old-school thinking with the advantages of modern equipment - is at least founded in some sort of common sense
dawn badge
light switches have mains power, people touch light switches, and people have wet hands in bathrooms
these are fine
because the string separates you away from power
pull strings used to be the normal but they are less common these days.
atomic delta
Just install a clapper in the bathroom.
dawn badge
Keeping outlets away from water - while pretty old-school thinking with the adva...
could we have a waterproof lightswitch these days. yes... but what if the seals fail or its incorrectly installed. or a kid messes with it.
we have a huge amount of safety redundancy in everything.
if someone bends a regulation slightly it means there's still other protections.
sometimes following the exact letter of every reg is not practical.
scenic radish
Might have honestly, but that was 10+ years ago
forest edge
are they running wled?
never thought about wled. that would work on like the ornament?
unborn merlin
could we have a waterproof lightswitch these days. yes... but what if the seals ...
i mean there's also those capacitative sensor things..
Tho I mostly know them from 12v/24v not mains.. but surprising its not a common thing since its.. very low possibility of any issues and etc..
simple gazelle
pull strings used to be the normal but they are less common these days.
I wonder if it's because we have extractors now, so the switch is switching more current?
minor bobcat
i mean there's also those capacitative sensor things..
Capacitve and wet fingers are not ideal
warm helm
you guys don’t use hair dryers or curling irons in the bathroom? 🤣
Thanks for bald shaming me.
dawn badge
I wonder if it's because we have extractors now, so the switch is switching more...
in general the extractors are powered by a fused spur and the switch for them is just a low current signal wire which tells them to spin up.
simple gazelle
in general the extractors are powered by a fused spur and the switch for them is...
I did wonder if that was it, the bathroom switch is the one I have not stuck a Sonoff in.
high remnant
I think my electric heater in my bathroom is slightly underpowered :(
static schooner
When you get an ad that's essentially telling you to buy a car from somebody else
Hmmm, maybe I do need a new car, but definitely not one that continually shows me ads...
And it's not the first time it's happened:
“The last time this happened, Stellantis was advertising extended warranties to owners via their infotainment. Many were frustrated as the offer continued to show, even after acknowledging it by pressing “OK.” What’s more, others saw the ad despite their car exceeding the mileage limit mentioned in the promotion.”
hoary canyon
Oh, yay: https://apple.news/AoZJNmLxnRgKD00ljHdpMFQ
oh wonderful. We have a Jeep at home with Uconnect 5
static schooner
The tactic of 'continue to show the ad until you explicitly interact with it' is just the level of rage I want to feel when I'm about to start driving
unborn merlin
oh wonderful. We have a Jeep at home with Uconnect 5
time to go digging for where they buried the sim or data connection! /s
hoary canyon
time to go digging for where they buried the sim or data connection! /s
Pretty sure it’s eSIM
The uconnect 5 systems are based on Android so wouldn’t surprise me
austere anchor
This trend to see how bad you can make consumer products before people stop buying is really frustrating.
Cars worked fine for years, now vendors want some recurring revenue and decide to make the products worse rather than better. Same thing with TVs. I always expect shows I watch to have ads, but the TV itself is a conduit.
What’s next?
static schooner
It's called enshitification
dawn badge
This trend to see how bad you can make consumer products before people stop buyi...
did you see the Hyundai brake pad thing?
static sluice
NUC arrived, looking forward to setting it up w/ Immich etc.
Turns out the power supply the ebay seller included is not powerful enough 
dawn badge
NUC arrived, looking forward to setting it up w/ Immich etc.
Turns out the power...
well that's awkward. probably sign off someone who doesn't understand se;;omg ot and went with "it fits so its probably fine"
static sluice
yeah, it does fit. unfortunately it's 3.43 amps when the NUC asks for 4.74 amps
dawn badge
yeah, it does fit. unfortunately it's 3.43 amps when the NUC asks for 4.74 amps
at what voltage?
last cedar
Oh, yay: https://apple.news/AoZJNmLxnRgKD00ljHdpMFQ
I would love for my 1999 Volvo to do this /s
static sluice
at what voltage?
19
last cedar
yeah, it does fit. unfortunately it's 3.43 amps when the NUC asks for 4.74 amps
Give it a try!!!
static sluice
Yeah if they say "worked for me" I'll probably just buy the right one somewhere
last cedar
I guess if you don't load it too bad you are fine with that one
dawn badge
19
so you got 65 watts instead of 90. that seems like a lot. i guess it depends on the spec.
last cedar
But not sure if it will post, as usually machines don't clock down until after post
5090 NUC
NUClear
high remnant
I would love for my 1999 Volvo to do this /s
!!!!!!!
I kinda miss it but also not
dawn badge
My ZBT-2 did not come today and this makes me sad 🙁
By the looks of the tracking data the courier had a delay getting it to the delivery depot. high hopes for tomorrow though.
minor bobcat
I wanted to get one, but then I thought I'll wait for the first few updated/fixes, then I remembered I'm running Beta monthly on my main setup lol
dawn badge
I wanted to get one, but then I thought I'll wait for the first few updated/fixe...
its gunna be my first real attempt at zigbee. no migration or anything fancy needed so i think ill be fine 🙂
static schooner
My ZBT-2 did not come today and this makes me sad 🙁
By the looks of the tracki...
Interference caused package loss, will retry
dawn badge
Interference caused package loss, will retry
nice 🙂
crisp oriole
YES FINALLY I can make calls with my home assistant web portal.
weak musk
This is a rabbit hole you do not want to explore Suf
high remnant
oh no you lost me at calls
LOL
if you call me i’ll stare it down until it goes to voicemail which i’ll promptly ignore
crisp oriole
calls you know.. I can lend your ipad because i lost my phone and need to make a call
now to check if i can pick up the phone with ha if someone calls me
weak musk
high remnant
calls you know.. I can lend your ipad because i lost my phone and need to make a...
have you considered therapy
calling
in this day and age
nu-uh i’ll send an text to 112 and i’ll happily bleed out before calling
crisp oriole
have you considered therapy
stuck mortar
I don’t think therapy will help with bleeding out, but I’m the not the right kind of doctor to answer that question
weak musk
it will help you be in tune with the fact that you're bleeding out
stuck mortar
Suf trying extra hard to be one with the earth
crisp oriole
have you seen the waitingtimes
Im schizoaffective i know the drill. its code black in my country
high remnant
Im schizoaffective i know the drill. its code black in my country
we share that country lol
ngl crisis help is either really good or really bad
crisp oriole
I blame them for the death of a good girlfriend
crisp oriole
I have a near death experience written police all over it
high remnant
I'll fax you instructions
how modern of you
minor bobcat
I can print that too
high remnant
a legit one
high remnant
lmao
minor bobcat
starting paint.exe
high remnant
ngl I like asfinag they have gone all digital
high remnant
*starting paint.exe*
I can do that too
tbh you used to be able to get a sticker withyour plate written on it
light dock
What's everyone's playlist they listen to when writing automations
minor bobcat
I had a beautiful umweltplakette until TÜV removed it because my car violated some rules and now I got a stupid one with a hand written plate number
weak musk
nothing with words I'll say that much
high remnant
I had a beautiful umweltplakette until TÜV removed it because my car violated so...
that would just irritate me to no end
on my prev car it was stuck on askew
but it was behind my window tint so I didnt fix it
minor bobcat
You tinted you front window?
minor bobcat
minor bobcat
I assume in germany too
Nah
high remnant
75%?
dawn badge
I'll fax you instructions
fax'ing was a great vector of attack for a while.
someone breached a bank by asking for a statement of an account via fax. nobody knew how to deal with a fax request properly so just did what they asked and sent documents to them. there was no security procedure for it and someone was told to "deal with it" so they just did no security.
minor bobcat
Only 10% (ithink) of the windscreen are allowed to be covered at all
high remnant
even if I have an ABE?
minor bobcat
I can't have one of those cool racing strips on the top of it
high remnant
fax'ing was a great vector of attack for a while.
someone breached a bank by ask...
I am so SO happy we do not work with faxes anymore
lolol
oh wait I kinda forgot that TUV sagt NEIN isn't a meme lol
I have legal tint here, used to run illigal tint but got sick of getting pulled over
minor bobcat
oh wait I kinda forgot that TUV sagt NEIN isn't a meme lol
It's reality
high remnant
yeah
dawn badge
its not really effective anymore because whilst some companies still "use fax" its been replaced by "email -> fax" on one side and "fax -> email" on the other side and so both companies pay a third party instead of sending an email because "we do that by fax"
minor bobcat
I still do real fax at work
Actual analog number calling with all the beeps and boops
high remnant
yes but that's because Germany is behind on the digital curve :P
dawn badge
I still do real fax at work
oh, I am sure there are still cases for it. but in a lot of cases its all been replaced on both ends anyway
high remnant
no germany is special
minor bobcat
oh, I am sure there are still cases for it. but in a lot of cases its all been r...
B2B 100%
high remnant
It's reality
I run legal tints here now, you can hardly see it
thats the downside
used to run chameleon tints, they're legal but cause so many stops
dawn badge
used to run chameleon tints, they're legal but cause so many stops
one of those things, being right doesn't help... not worth the hassle
high remnant
yep
I had more issues woth my previous car
upto a point I actually got into heated arguments
lol
it was always a "routine traffic stop"
minor bobcat
I keep a folder with every document in my trunk, they hate that trick
high remnant
🤣
here the ABE officer
no but even the bone stock not modified audi got me pulled over
minor bobcat
I'm on winter tires now, this is the only time my car is actually illegal nowadays
high remnant
:o
minor bobcat
215 wide tires but only 205 allowed
high remnant
LOL
Straight to jail
oh about winters: the fitter claims one of my rims is bent. I think he's just incabaple of balancing a car
minor bobcat
Yeah but everyone sees the stock renault rims with winters on a lowered car, nobody checks that (also looks atrocious)
high remnant
I cannot remember a cop ever looking at my size lol
ever
but I have not been pulled over by german police in FOREVER so idk
minor bobcat
The funny thing is, with my summer wheels I can go up to 235 because it's an 8" wide rim but the stock ones are just 7" so it's 205 max
I have way more clearance on the stock rims but heyo
minor bobcat
Yeah I do it in my garage
high remnant
fair
minor bobcat
but I have not been pulled over by german police in FOREVER so idk
They probably see NL and just don't care because it means more paperwork
high remnant
They probably see NL and just don't care because it means more paperwork
I dont think so. I hardly see police nowadays lol
or they do see it and do not care because its not a danger
it cannot be sticking outside of the body of the car
jaunty breach
Need to find a better dimmer switch. These look good but are not good.
https://kb.shelly.cloud/knowledge-base/shelly-plus-wall-dimmer
unborn merlin
... Not good by... what standard?
you're being a bit of a fool not.. actually saying what you want. 🤷♂️
dawn badge
Need to find a better dimmer switch. These look good but are not good.
https:...
#1284966353798697001 with recommendations tag is probably where you should be looking.
jaunty breach
... Not good by... what standard?
you're being a bit of a fool not.. actually s...
Out of 12 I've had to return 3 as defective. Also doesn't do elv.
unborn merlin
why would it.
its literally not sold to do that
jaunty breach
<#1284966353798697001> with recommendations tag is probably where you should be ...
Mostly just venting. Tho I might need to peek and see what's being recommended as switches.
unborn merlin
the power supply to low voltage lighting is what needs to support dimming then.
who knows maybe we'll see a new dimmer at some point.
... seeing as that shelly wall dimmer is still uhh.. a gen2 device? we're at gen4 now..
jaunty breach
the power supply to low voltage lighting is what needs to support dimming then.
Not sure I need elv actually. The defects were the annoying part. Challenge is flickering at very low brightness
Then of course troubleshooting if the flickering is bad hardware or... Grr.
dawn badge
smart switch + smart bulb is likely to be the way dimming is done by a lot of people in the future instead of traditional dimming methods which then have to be decoded and set in software for an led bulb anyway. so tradational dimmer stuff is probably not high on prirority list.
jaunty breach
These are led strips. With drivers. Wonder if smart drivers will be a thing
dawn badge
its a digital system pretending its talking to an analogue system talking to another digital system doing the same thing. might as well keep it digital.
dawn badge
These are led strips. With drivers. Wonder if smart drivers will be a thing
smart drivers are definitely a thing...
unborn merlin
smart drivers already exist.
jaunty breach
Indeed. 0-10v is not very developed either
unborn merlin
proper led power supplies tend to have their own ways of being dimmable.
I mean.. it exists.. and there is a 0-10v shelly last I checked.. I use one.
jaunty breach
smart drivers are definitely a thing...
Ooh. I wonder if I should look into this.
unborn merlin
https://kb.shelly.cloud/knowledge-base/shelly-dimmer-gen4
Supported load types
Dimmable LED lamps: up to 150 WIncandescent bulbs: up to 200 W
Halogen lamps: up to 200 W
Iron-core transformer with low-voltage incandescent lamps: up to 200 VA
Dimmable electronic transformers: up to 200 W
not a wall switch style
but supports more.
weak musk
It would be great if this conversation was…not here
jaunty breach
Not a water cooler talk?
unborn merlin
the ender of casual conversion has arrived! /s
jaunty breach
@unborn merlin yea. The newer switches confused me on the elv thing. Looking at smart drivers now
unborn merlin
<@192237281120092160> yea. The newer switches confused me on the elv thing. Look...
theres also the shelly plus RGBW
which I think is just.. 12/24v mosfet driven 4 channels
jaunty breach
Yea. That's the device that got me into Shelly 🙂
unborn merlin
its almost weird that.. there are so few companies being not-fucking-shitty to their own customers like shelly tend to be.
jaunty breach
I wonder if there is a non sucky dumb physical dimmer switch to put in front of modern shelly
unborn merlin
I mean it has two inputs.. I would imagine a momentary-button or something could be configured in software to behave more like what one may want there but 🤷♂️
jaunty breach
Yea. I played around with that. It's crude but serviceable
unborn merlin
browsing their thing... I just learned they have..
a goddamned shelly LoRA addon thing
jaunty breach
Haha. Yea
unborn merlin
absurd how many niche things they have 😛
minor bobcat
a goddamned shelly LoRA addon thing
You mean for water meter and stuff?
unborn merlin
https://www.shelly.com/products/shelly-lora-add-on-x2
no, I mean for long distance linking between shelly's
minor bobcat
Ah, sad
jaunty breach
I have no experience with inovelli, I might try one of their white products tho.. no matter exp either
unborn merlin
inovelli I believe is the only company thats done/doing mmwave switch stuff anytime recently.. but I think thats still not a completely finished product yet either? or is almost done?
minor bobcat
Wasn't that the one which LTT had problems with?
unborn merlin
Dunno. 🤷♂️
also his house is a..
a lot.
he probably should've run like.. extra wires and done modbus or rs485 stuff for all his shit..
minor bobcat
Boy can't even have good wifi because he has too much wifi
Then again his house is huge
I'd dream of just having problems like that lol
jaunty breach
Boy can't even have good wifi because he has too much wifi
Your wifis conflicting with each other?
minor bobcat
Nah I'm fine Linus' home isn't tho
jaunty breach
I meant one day you hope for that problem
unborn merlin
nah..
minor bobcat
Well he knows the problem now it seems
unborn merlin
as I said.. I'd use some hardwire communication for some stuff if I could planned ahead.
RS485, canbus, modbus.. whatever
minor bobcat
I guess you can have too much ubiquiti after all
unborn merlin
well its also like 100+ switches or whatever shit
minor bobcat
All Z-Wave innit?
unborn merlin
dont remember.
I'm partially designing a.. hvaac controller+smartvent thing
and my intention is likely to canbus with the power wires inside the vents to the smart vents
so that.. less signal shit
also having the vents surrounded on 5-of-six-sides by metal is unhealthy to signals anyways 😛
unborn merlin
🤷♂️ esphome has canbus and modbus and other shit built into it regardlesss
minor bobcat
Just thinking at a scale of 100+ devices i wouldn't want to manage it through esphome
unborn merlin
I mean ideally the vents would be bound to the contrller more than homeassistant directly
backup case is.. thread probably.
since the c6 supports it.
jaunty breach
No, this switch cannot be used with any sort of transformer, ballast or LED Strip that has a transformer. We recommend the On/Off Switch (w/Temperature and Humidity Sensing).
minor bobcat
backup case is.. thread probably.
Just a piece of string /s
unborn merlin
transformer lights are a pain in the ass.
jaunty breach
this should work just fine with a regular driver right?
unborn merlin
dont know.. it doesnt epscify what sort of dimming it uses
but most people dont have lights with transformer crap to deal with.. those are annoying and expensive usually (so.. built into stupid expensive houses)
someone I work for.. has a bunch of that shit in his house
(also has a bunch of light boxes that the electrician elected not to put fucking neutral wires into as well..)
so like
their stuff looks nice yes.
minor bobcat
Their website is way too fancy to sell lightswitches
unborn merlin
but holy fuck man that price
is ridiculous
and yes; i despise that scroll style
give me the fucking technical details. do not make me fucking dig for it after scrolling through your bullshit.
https://inovelli.com/collections/smart-home/Presence
They also have mmwave presence stuff too.
But jesus fucking christ..
99$ for zigbee, 115$ for zwave?
thats.. a fucking ton.
(also that fancy scrolling shit seems to break the discord embed, funnys)
minor bobcat
Nice
unborn merlin
also unsure why they.. dont have thread mmwave sensors.. wonder if the 2.4ghz interferes or soemthing
🤔 i'm designing a few things for that guys house actually.. smart stuff to retrofit in that he enjoys
going to.. hijack the old phone lines/boxes in each room to put presence/pir/mmwave/temp/humidity sensors inside and such
minor bobcat
Put all of that inside an old phone and just leave it on the wall
unborn merlin
inject 24v; step down power at each wall plate
should be sufficient.. esp at each probably.. still plotting it tho 😄
minor bobcat
While still making the phone function as a mic for voice assistant
unborn merlin
nah, thats a bit much for me
tho I will admit I have been tempted to get a few of these boards for my own house
becaus y'know..
google continues to make their smart system worse with gemini shit
and I have HA already.. so..
minor bobcat
My Nest speakers stopped actually doing what I say, maybe I have to renew the connection to Nabu Casa
unborn merlin
... mine still works but boy that initial process was obnoxious
I didnt pay for nabu; just did it myself.. but wow it was annoying. 😄
minor bobcat
It just goes "Bim Bum" after a command and does nothing
unborn merlin
that could also very much ust be google having made assistant worse up to releasing gemini to it
so it looks better and all.
... y'know fun stuff.
minor bobcat
I'm on the beta firmware on the big Nest speaker
The minis are still on normal assistant
All of them react the same
unborn merlin
may need to try the re-sync command thing maybe
minor bobcat
Spotify works tho
jaunty breach
Yea. Some mixed vibes from inoveili. I feel like lutron and leviton are kinda proprietary tho
unborn merlin
"hey google synchronize my devices" or something like that?
minor bobcat
Idk maybe I'll just install the home app again
unborn merlin
I used.. one of their leviton switches in the house downstairs
600w dimmer
dunno how they pakced that much into that thing; but hey
also its in the family area of the house.. has worked pretty fine relatively speaking..
Living Room Lights
Current: 1.4.13
Available: 1.7.1
yeaha I havent touched that thing in forever
"Leviton Decora Smart Wi-Fi 1000W Universal LED/Incandescent Dimmer."
.. the fuck are they using to be able to dim goddamn 1000w of power?
unborn merlin
that was also like.. I dont even remember how long ago
was a lot less smart devices back when I threw that in
but I probably will.. get that onju voice pcb set made at some point just to phase out the google side of things for the fairly obvious reason 😄
ah; looks like its actually not ideal because it lacks the XMOS chip like the homeassitant voice preview uses.
https://github.com/iMike78/nest-mini-drop-in-pcb
someones already worked at it.. 🤣 of course
jaunty breach
I used.. one of their leviton switches in the house downstairs
i'm always slightly supicious of the works with.. have to check to make sure HA can handle it..
really wanna get things nicely on HA, rather than conceding to Amazon or google
jaunty breach
also unsure why they.. dont have thread mmwave sensors.. wonder if the 2.4ghz in...
you feeling inovelli is sus?
unborn merlin
no just confused
but it may just be that they settled chipsets before thread stuff was more widespread
or intereference.. I dunno
RF is fucking sorcery after all.
haughty girder
what has changed in docker that won't allow portainer connect and to fail to connect to the local environment?
everything seemed fine a couple weeks ago but now portainer is gving me an error that it failed loading the environment
I can see the container, I just can't access it.
It has been working great for years and now something has changed.
unborn merlin
why would you come ask for support on something explicitly stated as not supported
🙃
dawn badge
https://www.home-assistant.io/more-info/unsupported/software
i understand where your coming from but to be fair i am not sure what convinces you that they are running supervised?
unborn merlin
because they're coming here asking about docker.
dawn badge
It has been working great for years and now something has changed.
you could probably ask your question in a thread in #1284966540617449515 and explain your setup a little more...
unborn merlin
I mean I shoved portainer into my HA supervised too.. ish.. but its not recommended obviously. 😛
dawn badge
because they're coming here asking about docker.
that makes me assume container, not supervised tbh
unborn merlin
yeah, except in container style.. the HA instance doesn't control the docker service
it just runs in it.
whereas supervised...
does in fact have some control over it.
dawn badge
yeah. you could be right. but in any case the question belongs in #1284966540617449515 and if it turns out to be supervised then its an unsupported version and also supervised is about to become unsupported whatever the case.
unborn merlin
well, standalone supervised at least. 😛 since I assume HAOS still uses it
dawn badge
yeah the "supervised install method" becomes unsupported. not the supervisor itself
holy shit, this month has flown I just realised we are only a few days away from BETA week...
atomic delta
and 9 days from my birthday.
I won't remember, so early happy getting old day.
unborn merlin
lul.
haughty girder
It's unsupervised, but something has changed because it worked for ages up until 11.1
static schooner
Watching The American Revolution documentary makes me want to watch Hamilton again
scenic radish
Aaron Burr, sir?
static schooner
I adore Hamilton. It's fantastic
scenic radish
It really is
light dock
the website not having a dark mode is blinding me right now 😄
high remnant
chrome pasture
Anyone already running the new zigbee toiletroll holder?
solar zealot
So as it turns out, GoPro makes exactly one good product and it's their mounting system
Works great for webcams
warm helm
So as it turns out, GoPro makes exactly one good product and it's their mounting...
Chin cam
simple gazelle
Yeah I'd be looking like this on that one
swift dirge
Oh nice. apparently the new ikea smarthome range will be released in europe at the beginning of next year. (assuming the article I saw was right.)
dawn badge
came a day late but... the game's afoot
weak musk
What’s the little display Michael?
dawn badge
What’s the little display Michael?
its the powers companies IHD (in house display). its a peace of crap but if theres issues it could be needed so i keep it there out the way. I have a custom one too that s at the back of the rack at the brush. its harder to notice cos the display is off when idle. the custom one reports the same data but it also relays it to MQTT for HA integration 🙂
UK smart meters (maybe elsewhere too) use a variation of zigbee (not compatible with normal zigbee and i beleive also includes a sub ghz band) to communicate which the IHD's which you have to authorise with your meter serial numbers and such. its a bit of a pain tbh but it works.
reports electric/gas usage (gas is half hour polling I think) and current cost.
simple gazelle
On that note I got an Octopus Mini today so I look forward to fiddling with that
dawn badge
moving to octopus is probably on the cards at some point but there is some minor issues which ill have to solve if/when it happens so its been put off
simple gazelle
They gave me free gas for a year 😊
Because I thought it was a smart gas meter 😊
And the house was unoccupied so the estimated usage was 0 😊
(I'm paying them back slowly)
dawn badge
lol, yeah that kinda thing happens all the time
swift dirge
I'm guessing it's one of the hildebrand IHDs?
dawn badge
I'm guessing it's one of the hildebrand IHDs?
yeah
swift dirge
They work pretty well 🙂 And are handy for the 'Did I remember to turn off X' intrusive thoughts.
dawn badge
I think thee version of the integration I have is outdated. they moved repos or something. I remember seeing a warning but its working so I left it.
my untracked is slowly getting smaller 🙂
visuals are fun for watching my new mesh appear 🙂
high remnant
great infuse is broken for jellyfin
crisp oriole
Sigh some negativity people. "Its going to rain soon" I not acording to my led marquee. He says wdym. I try to explain. He "yeah then china also knows your weather"
high remnant
yeah china
crisp oriole
Im more worried about sending stuff to the USA.
swift dirge
some people's risk assessment skills really need a lot of work.
crisp oriole
some people's risk assessment skills really need a lot of work.
Prolly thinks home assistant has spyware
high remnant
I am worried about both
equally
i do not trust that orange cunt and I do not trust poobear either
wide glade
here is the nerd home?
high remnant
uh
iron granite
i do not trust that orange cunt and I do not trust poobear either
Let's not start getting into politics.
simple gazelle
"here is the nerd home?"
I mean, I guess
iron granite
Please do not crosspost.
silent doveBOT
coral spear
coral spear
<a:partyxcode:729142196007338034> <a:partyxcode:729142196007338034>
Well...
...why did I bet I would have Nitro in the end of the year?
I won my bet!
high remnant
i will not buy nitro
coral spear
i will not buy nitro
Have you ever heard of Orbs?
high remnant
no
I have never lol https://iwillnotbuynitro.com/u/deadly-past-rare-barasingha.jpg
(removed the embed for the joke :D)
high remnant
feels like work
coral spear
feels like work
No, It's from Discord...
high remnant
it still feels like effort :D
coral spear
.... and now I can
high remnant
But was that the thing that one could disable?
coral spear
But was that the thing that one could disable?
What thing?
high remnant
ah
coral spear
*if you are not hacking Discord
high remnant
running an alternate client you mean?
coral spear
running an alternate client you mean?
n... Yes
coral spear
I usually run the browser client
VENCORD?
high remnant
no
high remnant
Discord in browser :D
coral spear
Discord in browser :D
Yes, I am using Vencord Web
high remnant
ah
high remnant
coral spear
https://tenor.com/5tia.gif
Good night!
high remnant
🫡
coral spear
Good night!
(it's 9pm)
high remnant
2030
high remnant
coral spear
Well, it was nice meeting you
high remnant
coral spear
Okay, goodbye!
high remnant
forest edge
@tidal bronze Did you pick up your squid for Thanksgiving since you don't eat normal food?
tidal bronze
<@331255319365812224> Did you pick up your squid for Thanksgiving since you don'...
Squid, crab and shrimp it is.
Oh and chicken koobideh
high remnant
@minor bobcat the tint in question https://iwillnotbuynitro.com/u/7ac040ce-456b-4126-ac40-4b17cc06f92a.jpeg
mental peak
Do I need to buy two ZBT-2s for both Thread and Zigbee?
static schooner
Yes. And #1284966617670881350 can help with this kind of question
mental peak
I hate forums on Discord
static schooner
ok
mental peak
Why is there no forum post for ZBT-2
static schooner
the one with the 59 new posts:
mental peak
If I already have a Skyconnect, and I plan to buy a ZBT-2, which one should I use for Zigbee, and which for Thread?
static schooner
look, #1284966617670881350
mental peak
the one with the 59 new posts:
I guess the search doesn't work then 🤷♂️
Any Black Friday codes?
jaunty breach
@unborn merlin Just found this one too.. https://www.evehome.com/en-us/eve-dimmer-switch
hmm, might not do ELV.. but does do MLV
mental peak
Anyone know a good hardwired light switch?
I need to stem the acquisition of battery-powered devices.
static schooner
green mountain
https://iwillnotbuynitro.com/u/bitter-lawful-giant-alligator.jpg yay winter
ooo, forecast consumption
green mountain
yeah. probably better than when my power/gas company estimates my bill tbh
stuck mortar
based on vibes lol
grizzled gull
@raw tulip Thanks for the ornaments, great improvement from the H1!
forest edge
Squid, crab and shrimp it is.
tidal bronze
2025, Turkey is still a thing?
forest edge
2025, Turkey is still a thing?
guaranteed to contain less plastic than sea life too!
tidal bronze
I would rather chew a light post than turkey
forest edge
don't you already do that? lol
raw tulip
<@136552444254617600> Thanks for the ornaments, great improvement from the H1!
Those look incredible! Thank you for supporting the children's charity and the Open Home Foundation!
tidal bronze
Canoe cut beef bone marrow on garlic crostini 😀
forest edge
Canoe cut beef bone marrow on garlic crostini 😀
high remnant
Canoe cut beef bone marrow on garlic crostini 😀
wtf
i just had an error
the heck is that
tidal bronze
but i have never been a big fan of meat
Oh boy.
Bone marrow based appetizers, its a thing now.
grizzled gull
Beef bone marrow is great appetizer
high remnant
sounds lowkey disturbing
tidal bronze
Age and pallet 😁
static schooner
That's what meat used to be on
tidal bronze
That's what meat used to be on
At my age deciphering is reader's choice. 😅
@forest edge your wait is over!
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/labubu-movie-in-the-works-at-sony-1236426627/
high remnant
labubu!
ocean oar
Surprised it's taken this long, tbh
forest edge
Bone marrow based appetizers, its a thing now.
last i checked cannibalism is still frowned upon
tidal bronze
It's fine as long as there's chia seeds and avocado 🥑
jaunty breach
"Internally, Shelly is just changing the conduction angle of the AC sine wave after doing its auto-calibration." that hurts my digital mind
jaunty breach
I need to stem the acquisition of battery-powered devices.
not sure your situation, but i feel like in most cases, battery powered switches/remotes have a 'cheapness' associated with them.. just saw someones RV where they'd taped like 10 remotes to the wall that controlled everything, lights, awning, fans, ac, etc
ocean oar
<@&330946878646517761>
scenic radish
Gone
ocean oar
Ta much 🙂
spark fog
I dislike battery powered devices, too but it’s hard to find some devices with power cord (temperature and air quality sensors, for example)
jaunty breach
with few exceptions, the correct battery powered control is the cellphone, or one with its own solar.
main bay
not exactly a huge project, but i was really happy about how easy it was to set up some automation to make it easier to cast music from the new turntable shelf in the hallway to the living room stereo without pulling out a phone to hit buttons in the wiim app. just have this script running every time i hit a button on a spare lutron pico. total setup was under 15 minutes
wife approval factor off the charts
iron granite
But does the dog approve?
arctic quarry
The dog does seem excited by the conveniences offered by Free And Open Source technology
hybrid dust
Hey all, I just had a bit of a weird idea pop into my head but I've not used assist stuff much so not sure if it's viable; I was wondering if it's possible to make Assist start listening based on a trigger from a different sensor? For example a door sensor? My weird idea was that it'd be cool if I could make a wand in a stand that when pulled out (due to a hidden magnet in the wand and sensor in the stand), it'd activate a microphone for assist to listen to a spell phrase to do things like lights, music control etc
It's a very very silly idea but I thought it could be cool if assist could be triggered that way?
mental peak
not sure your situation, but i feel like in most cases, battery powered switches...
Totally. However, what TRVs/motion sensors/temp sensors don't use batteries?
For my smart home, if devices have batteries, I want the longest batteries possible. I also want hard-wired controls as much as possible, such as light switches. I also want to automate in the first instance. CBA with phone controls/remotes.
iron granite
Hey all, I just had a bit of a weird idea pop into my head but I've not used ass...
The assist_satellite.ask_question action might be a workaround.
hybrid dust
The `assist_satellite.ask_question` action might be a workaround.
Ah awesome, I'll look into it! Thanks!
iron granite
Ah awesome, I'll look into it! Thanks!
Or assist_satellite.start_conversation - depending on the usecase.
#1284966915055288530 might be able to help with details.
hybrid dust
Awesome, I'll check then out! Thanks again!
onyx forum
what kind of power supply I need for replacing the one in HA Green? Is it like this?
balmy locust
scenic radish
A post in #1284966540617449515 would make sense
balmy locust
Aight!
iron granite
what kind of power supply I need for replacing the one in HA Green? Is it like t...
If the plug is center-positive, yes.
wintry gorge
Hi, anyone of yall ever heard of Homeway? I've just stumbled upon it and it has an LLM for assist for free, and many other features. It seems too good to be true, does anybody have any experience with it? It seems weird because there arent almost any mentions of it on the HA reddit and this discord server
iron granite
Hi, anyone of yall ever heard of Homeway? I've just stumbled upon it and it has ...
Please do not crosspost.
high remnant
oh boy
out central heating in the building broke
was about to curse at tado again but no the entire building is down
ocean oar
Totally. However, what TRVs/motion sensors/temp sensors don't use batteries?
It looks like a radiator valve actuator that you just add electricity to turn on is a thing
https://store.danfoss.com/en/Climate-Solutions-for-heating/Hydronic-floor-heating/Actuators/Thermal-actuators/TWA/x/p/088H3142 (in 230V or 24V versions)
Exercise for the reader to build your own control gear to actuate it, I guess?
mental peak
It looks like a radiator valve actuator that you just add electricity to turn on...
That's cool. It would be great if houses were built in a way to support these.
mental peak
out central heating in the building broke
My Tado X thermostat broke last week. It was cold in the UK. My Korean wife was very upset.
ocean oar
Well there is problem #2, these things are necessarily battery-powered because when you're designing a house you don't put power outlets right next to the heater
And depending on the system I'm guessing the pipe is too hot to run the wires alongside it
high remnant
My Tado X thermostat broke last week. It was cold in the UK. My Korean wife was ...
Well I must be your korean wife because I am, too, upset
glacial knot
I'm neither korean nor a wife
but I would be upset about being in the UK as well
high remnant
LMAO
glacial knot
right now I'd love some in-floor heating though 😮
ocean oar
Couple of years ago our high-wall heat pump died, naturally right at the beginning of winter. Not that it really gets that cold here, but it was annoying for the 4 days until I could get someone to replace it.
But I got a nice shiny gloss black one (that goes much better with the design of the house than the old white unit), and with local wifi control, so everyone was happy.
glacial knot
i could just turn the valve on my radiator a bit
but I'm stubborn
robust flicker
i could just turn the valve on my radiator a bit
but I'm stubborn
Meanwhile, the AC is running here. 😛
static schooner
We should send heat through a series of long tubes...
scenic jasper
Installed 800W of PV, now I'm waiting on Ecoflow to give me developer access so I can use the API in HA...
high remnant
We should send heat through a series of long tubes...
with liquid
or just bluetooth heat?
static schooner
I'm just the idea guy
forest edge
what the hell am I looking at? solar panels? and why did you type it twice?
scenic radish
We should send heat through a series of long tubes...
Heatant
scenic jasper
what the hell am I looking at? solar panels? and why did you type it twice?
Seems like it eas sent twice
scenic jasper
what the hell am I looking at? solar panels? and why did you type it twice?
Yes, 2x500W panels hung up with wall hooks
wide glade
Best buldak ever?
solar zealot
Can't tell, why are there ads in the picture
simple gazelle
I recently had the 2X and that was just my spice limit, edible but not enjoyable.
wide glade
I recently had the 2X and that was just my spice limit, edible but not enjoyable...
yea I add creme fraiche to it and stuff to make it less shpicy
wide glade
Can't tell, why are there ads in the picture
not that deep I use the phone for daily stuff rn cuz iphone in repair idk where to turn this stuff off
simple gazelle
A lot of people say it comes down to how much you let it reduce
solar zealot
not that deep I use the phone for daily stuff rn cuz iphone in repair idk where ...
in the app settings. but disgusting that this is a thing to begin with
wide glade
in the app settings. but disgusting that this is a thing to begin with
idk if you knew but its a highend gaming phone its not meant for daily usage or anything
it has shoulder triggers
thats not normal at all
solar zealot
this has nothing to do with what kind of device is
wide glade
so a watermark doesnt change anything
solar zealot
it ruins the image
wide glade
I dont even use the camera often
solar zealot
why would a device you pay for watermark images with their branding
solar zealot
it belongs burned
solar zealot
back into the horse armor hell it came from
solar zealot
ads included™
wide glade
@solar zealot
thats the phone that emulates the full gta v on 110fps btw on mid settings without frame gen
minor bobcat
I have a white samsung, that's about as deep as I go nowadays
wide glade
I have a white samsung, that's about as deep as I go nowadays
nice
minor bobcat
LinkedIn giving me false hopes as usual, only "you could be interested in this" bs
wide glade
we dont even use linkedin in germany lol
minor bobcat
we dont even use linkedin in germany lol
That's not quite true
wide glade
never saw linkedin here
minor bobcat
Source: I'm german
solar zealot
you dont see linkedin because similar to any other network, it doesnt matter
wide glade
wer benutzt bitte linkedin hier
minor bobcat
Let's keep it in english so others can join the rant lol
wide glade
Let's keep it in english so others can join the rant lol
but who uses that
I use it to track down people
but nothing else and no one else uses it here
solar zealot
the only thing that linkedin did was attract weird people to put me on a list
minor bobcat
I've had many conversations with especially international brands that have a german office or similar
wide glade
just use indeed atp
or message the job thing directly
or go to it and ask if you can make money there
minor bobcat
I do that too
minor bobcat
I will be out of my current one by December
wide glade
why
minor bobcat
whats that semi professional profile picture?
That's just some pic I took of my car I liked
minor bobcat
I'm fine shooting myself but thanks
wide glade
minor bobcat
that sounded dark lol
wide glade
I'm fine shooting myself but thanks
sure you dont need one? : (
minor bobcat
Good enough
minor bobcat
Nikon D40x 18-200mm
wide glade
Nikon 😡
minor bobcat
Camera body is old af but I love that lense
wide glade
My Body is also old af
minor bobcat
It's so sharp, I love it
high remnant
noice
chrome pasture
my untracked is slowly getting smaller 🙂
you are doing a much better job than me, lol
atomic delta
I have no grid/home measurement, so I have very little tracked.
Basically just the 3D printer, the heater in my bedroom, and a torchiere lamp.
proper jetty
you are doing a much better job than me, lol
how did you generate this?
shy plinth
default HA energy dashboard
proper jetty
ooh, i need to integrate this with my energy provider.
atomic delta
My energy provider doesn't integrate with anyone. :(
But I'll eventually set up a flash sensor.
dawn badge
But I'll eventually set up a flash sensor.
A CT clamp is much easier.
atomic delta
Is it accurate though?
dawn badge
Is it accurate though?
I would say its accurate enough for purpose.
shy plinth
emporia's is accurate within 2%, agree for home use that's plenty good for me
gusty fulcrum
im so tired of the alexa integrations breaking every 3 days
dawn badge
im so tired of the alexa integrations breaking every 3 days
amazon don't like us all up in there API
scenic jasper
you are doing a much better job than me, lol
Why do you have a freezer on the balcony?
atomic delta
A CT clamp is much easier.
Looked at Shelly's and the new version can only handle 80A, and comes with a clamp limited to 50A. That could be an issue.
dawn badge
they still sell the older one with 120A clamps i have 2 of those
static schooner
The likelihood that you're maxing out your service is low
atomic delta
This is a 5000 sq. ft. house. In the summer we have three swamp coolers running 10A each motors. Toss the washing machine and dryer in and you're likely already over 50A.
80A might be fine, but I don't see the 80A clamp for sale.
dawn badge
one of the pro ones supports up to 400A I think if you want to totally overkill it 😛
atomic delta
Maybe in the distant future when I have an EV or two. :P
static schooner
If you're in the US, consider that it's split single phase.
That means you use two clamps
atomic delta
True.
compact wharf
does anyone know how to make this fully transparent
static schooner
You want #1284965988642590891
atomic delta
Hrm... I suppose that does mean loads would be split across those clamps. I was originally thinking we'd use the second clamp for the subpanel, but yeah, I'd want a second Shelly if I were going to do that.
Screw it, why not.
There, bought the gen3 with the 50 and a second clamp. Now to toss it in a box and forget to install it for five years.
static schooner
I have an Iotalink sitting in a box waiting to be installed for a few years
atomic delta
It's tradition. If you don't have a box of "someday I'll get around to setting that up", are you even trying?
static schooner
Not enough room in the breaker box and it's outside, so it'll be some work
chrome pasture
Why do you have a freezer on the balcony?
Dutch kitchens often are too small to house both a fridge and a freezer, so we put ours in a storage room om our balcony
@atomic delta @proper jetty im however using a p1 homewizard meter
forest edge
chrome pasture
Yeah we have one of those 1m tall fridges build in, it doesn't have a freezer haha
chrome pasture
Ah well, its been working fine for the past 10 years
high remnant
LOL
chrome pasture
;p
chrome pasture
Ohhh you said so yea
high remnant
first Ommoord then somewhere else
chrome pasture
Ok I really have to get moving
high remnant
i’m just waiting for my car to be done preheating 😂
chrome pasture
Pfff luxepoes, I'll have to sit in the care and shake it warm myself
high remnant
😂😂
high remnant
nothing is a biggie middle finger to your neighbors then getting in to a worn and defrosted car
forest edge
just to find out you ran it out of gas warming it up?
atomic delta
Dutch kitchens often are too small to house both a fridge and a freezer, so we p...
We have three fridge/freezer combos, a standing freezer, and a chest freezer.
forest edge
thats alot
atomic delta
A factor in me saying I was concerned about the 50A clamps :P
forest edge
well depending on thier age they may not use that much
chrome pasture
We have three fridge/freezer combos, a standing freezer, and a chest freezer.
Bro is prepared for 5 weeks no groceries
atomic delta
I think two are older (2000ish), the rest should be newer.
high remnant
Bros preheating his car with propane
no it’s using its battery
chrome pasture
Id love to integrate my car into my HA, its just too old for that 
high remnant
lmao fair
forest edge
no such thing. auto start can be intergrated as well as a remote battery monitor etc
atomic delta
I drive a 2003. And that's new to me.
forest edge
why
atomic delta
Interesting
chrome pasture
I dont believe so? My manager can start his car from the outside and have it drive out
high remnant
environmental rules
forest edge
lulz
high remnant
I dont believe so? My manager can start his car from the outside and have it dri...
can and being allowed to
might’ve gotten idle laws mixed up
atomic delta
Just looked it up. Apparently it's legal when available from the factory, but there are some vehicle modification laws that may prevent aftermarket ones.
chrome pasture
Yeah Europe(or at least NL) isn't very keen on carmodifications
Or vehiclemods in any case
atomic delta
Meanwhile I live in Nevada, where you can build a car from scraps and still register it.
high remnant
Yeah Europe(or at least NL) isn't very keen on carmodifications
only if done badly
atomic delta
It does require some extensive testing though.
high remnant
but its hybrid electric so it’s fine
forest edge
Meanwhile I live in Nevada, where you can build a car from scraps and still regi...
even more lax now. with all the states passing the inspection delay stuff you can drive on 3 wheel for like 2+ years lol
reminds me I need to look that up. my truck is due next year
atomic delta
In my county, if it has a VIN, it doesn't ever need inspection or testing.
Yes, really.
forest edge
well it is nevada.. what is someone gonna hit? a bush
atomic delta
We have above-ground power lines. A few outages have been caused by idiot drivers.
But yeah, my county in particular doesn't even allow for emission testing. Can't even report vehicles belching black clouds.
scenic jasper
Dutch kitchens often are too small to house both a fridge and a freezer, so we p...
lol interesting.
We have a combi-fridge/freezer in the kitchen and I have an additional freezer in the basement/my office.
chrome pasture
Why do yall have so many damn freezers and fridges tho
high remnant
Why do yall have so many damn freezers and fridges tho
americans! they do their shopping once a decade it seems
chrome pasture
americans! they do their shopping once a decade it seems
Yeeeaaaah
high remnant
iirc that has something to do with car-only infrastructure and a lack of mixed-use zoning
chrome pasture
But I mean, it checks out as well given that some have to drive an hour to get to the supermarket while we most of the time only have to walk like 10minutes
chrome pasture
you mean bike!
Weelllllllll
high remnant
well you are from Capelle so probably fatbike for you
chrome pasture
Not to dox myself but I have 5 supermarkets within 10 minutes of walking
high remnant
chrome pasture
well you are from Capelle so probably fatbike for you
Nah, it got stolen by some guy who went to the mcdrive after
chrome pasture
Tru
high remnant
Not to dox myself but I have 5 supermarkets within 10 minutes of walking
hesseplaats lol
o wait that is ommoord
chrome pasture
hesseplaats lol
Yeah thats the one Im talking about
high remnant
LOO
chrome pasture
I mean
chrome pasture
This morning I already said where I lived ;P
high remnant
and I did my shopping there too
chrome pasture
high remnant
i haven't been there in like almost a decade lol
chrome pasture
But nah, I do everything by foot
high remnant
and the metro?
chrome pasture
i haven't been there in like almost a decade lol
Ah, so ur old
high remnant
ikr
chrome pasture
and the metro?
Naaaaaah
high remnant
Ah, so ur old
I used to ride the M-type metros
guess my age :)
and the strippenkaart
chrome pasture
For once I can't because revolut is banned from OVPAY 
chrome pasture
and the strippenkaart
Same tho
chrome pasture
Naaaaaa 😭
chrome pasture
guess my age :)
Im guessing ballpark mid-high 20's
Like 28-ish
high remnant
older lol
chrome pasture
high remnant
chrome pasture
high remnant
yes 🫡
chrome pasture
I need to make some fun/usefull automations, I haven't in a while, does someone have inspiration?
Im thinking of making something like a chores board but not sure if it will actually be effective with my adhd brain
minor bobcat
Try "Home-Maintanence" from HACS makes entity creation for chores easy and then you can go for automations from there.
Maybe ask #1284980040940912641 for more input
chrome pasture
Try "Home-Maintanence" from HACS makes entity creation for chores easy and then ...
Yeah I figured it would flood there, most threads dont even get replies :<
But I want to make something without HACS
hot hearth
i wonder if i could use the ring motion detection events to trigger a temporary, say 10 second rtstp stream (maybe 10 seconds after frigate doesnt detect anything?) from the ring cameras to friage bc the ring person detection is absolutely horrific, all motion is person
forest edge
if you are running frigate why would you care what the ring detects or dosen't
hot hearth
because they're wireless cameras and i feel like 24/7 streaming will cripple other iot devices
chrome pasture
I dont have issues with my tapo C221's
Which are recording to my NAS 24/7
forest edge
because they're wireless cameras and i feel like 24/7 streaming will cripple oth...
is your network that shit?
hot hearth
wait up, pretty sure they're set to record 24/7 anyway, thought they were on motion
hot hearth
is your network that shit?
eh, its alright lol, got 3 unifi wifi 6 aps, the routers shockingly bad but waiting for a new 10gb nic to come for opnsense and 2000/2000 wan, ring doesn't have rstp support, solely through their servers but it's what my dad wanted
although i may have convinced him of a local nvr and external backups
chrome pasture
eh, its alright lol, got 3 unifi wifi 6 aps, the routers shockingly bad but wait...
Bro's got better wifi than my whole company
hot hearth
mildly regret the unifi aps tbh
hot hearth
they're alright but that's about it
high remnant
I have a love-hate relationship with Unifi
hot hearth
looks... they become one with the house and you don't notice them
although on that point i kinda wanna get an e7 from them 😅 which completely scraps the smooth circle for a box on the ceiliing like the older makaris
hot hearth
I have a love-hate relationship with Unifi
this, they do something right then screw you with misleading speeds on their routers (im talking about you ucg ultra)
hot hearth
(i wont be getting it, rather spend the money on the steam frame when they come out)
high remnant
it works good enough
hot hearth
software looks good, but doesn't give you much control and the topographic map just absolutely dies if you don't use one of their routers and switches
ahh yes, my pc is the router... not the ip of the actual gateway that dhcp gave you
high remnant
True and its convoluted
Creating network isolation or firewal rules is just a pain
it works good enough that I do not get rid of it but boy
hot hearth
and the wifi experience thing is completely useless, 1% and i get full gigabit, 100% and im barely pushing 10mb
so so so many pain points, but it does work, it looks nice and it does the job
high remnant
yep
chrome pasture
Im running those tplink mesh wifi pillars, doesn't really get worse than that I think
Full signal but speed? Nah. The speed was optional but not included
high remnant
mesh is always a bad deal
chrome pasture
I use about 10TB of data at home
What in the world 
😳
high remnant
🤷♂️
chrome pasture
Must be those linux iso's
high remnant
Yes, and my normal data
chrome pasture
high remnant
high remnant
https://tenor.com/view/normal-gill-engvid-usual-standard-gif-25084325
I too have a long hallway. VoIP is a necessity
chrome pasture
scenic jasper
Anyone here got experience or tips on how to source hardware for building a powerstation?
The goal is to charge it up with our generated power from PV or when the electricity prices are cheap to use it during the times of the day where the price is more expensive.
For europe/Germany specifically
chrome pasture
I saw a guy on the youtubes make a home battery in the UK from vape batteries
At this point anything would be possible
Colleague of mine in hungary did it with notebook batteries
robust flicker
One of my lady coworkers came in, trash talking us for not telling her she had red stuff on her butt when we saw her on Friday. "No offense MJ, but I don't exactly spend my day looking at, or even desiring to look at, your butt!" She's in her upper 60s. 🤣
She's also the mother of a friend, so she and I know each other outside of work fairly well, and she's used to me. Lmao
scenic jasper
I saw a guy on the youtubes make a home battery in the UK from vape batteries
I'm looking at LFP cells. I'm gonna put the battery on a boat eventually, so I'm trying to find the best combination of hardware that is reliable, but also not too expensive (looking at you, Victron).
I kinda know what I'm getting into, but I have no idea where to source good hardware because I mainly watch english (so US targeted) media and now for once I need europe/Germany specific advice lmao
tawdry stirrup
I just remembered that there was a software called Tasmota, to replace ESP devices with some custom firmware.. now after googling around a while, seems that everybody is replacing the Tasmota devices with ESPHome firmware?? Is that way to go nowadays?
iron granite
ESPHome has closer ties to HA than Tasmota. So integrating them usually is easier.
tawdry stirrup
I have been using ESPhome only for my own custom devices, but never thought that they could be utilized also to commercial products. Tasmota offers some pre-made "templates" for each device type, so that I don't need to define sensors etc manually, like for ESPhome I'd need to do?
Oh cool, there is actually some device collection with premade templates also on ESPhome site
scenic jasper
ESPHome has closer ties to HA than Tasmota. So integrating them usually is easie...
I haven't had the pleasure of using ESPhome, but from my experience tasmota devices are really easy to setup, too.
scenic radish
I just remembered that there was a software called Tasmota, to replace ESP devic...
I don't think everybody is moving from Tasmota to ESPHome (in fact, that seems like a pain honestly). I like Tasmota for off-the-shelf devices and ESPHome for custom devices
warm helm
I don't think everybody is moving from Tasmota to ESPHome (in fact, that seems l...
I still need to flash my wyze plugs to esphome
scenic radish
doit
grizzled gull
Anyone else buy crap for black friday and now can't decide if I'm looking forward to more tinkering or kicking myself because my setup does work... Kinda 🙂
scenic radish
|| DOIT ||
atomic delta
Biggest thing I want is a motorized blackout shade, but the options are many and the prices are high.