the-water-cooler

[mighty rose]

Boomers are 60+ these days

[unborn merlin]

its also heavily a mindset.

if you can fake the lead-poisoned brain-is-cheese thing.. you too can be a boomer.

facebook/etc helps with that obviously.

[forest edge]

you just know infinite is going to berated so bad when he gets older and crosses that threshold he despises so much now

[mighty rose]

eh - when all you do is piss on things, then wonder why the floor is wet.

[mighty rose]

on a positive note - can I just say how much I love this graph:

Pretty much all of the untracked is my HVAC system..... One day, I'll figure out how I'm going to bring that into the dashboard.

[unborn merlin]

many annoying current clamps?

[mighty rose]

yeah, that's what I'm thinking..... Putting one CT over the A/C circuit breaker output would probably catch most of it

I'm not sure I care about stuff like lights.

[unborn merlin]

wish there was an easily chainable CT.

like.. measurement all-in-one rs485 current clamp or something.. that you could just chain to one another and have one wire out.

[mighty rose]

I noticed that you can get DIN mounted zigbee circuit breakers.

[unborn merlin]

well yes, that's because those were designed for countries with not-trash-breaker setups..

[mighty rose]

yeah - I'm not 100% sure I'd want to change out a known good branded breaker for a random TUYA based thing though lol

[unborn merlin]

I more meant like.. shelly ones

tho the shelly din rail stuff is pricy

whenever available I prefer to get like.. not-tuya for anything mains related.

[mighty rose]

I think I'd rather go CT clamps before the replacement breaker lol

but it seems even those expect 240v L/N

[unborn merlin]

realistically the only half-clean way to do the breaker thing

would be to have a SPAN panel or something

[mighty rose]

I wonder if that's for a specific measurement purpose - or just ... well, power

[unborn merlin]

but that is.. obviously pricy and etc

[mighty rose]

the last upgrade was putting in some 10mm cable to the EV charger lol

too many live wires - and with that thickness, the electrician needed to use a........ I forget what he called it - basically a big ass screw terminal to bring all the lives together

ie from the street + everything else feeding something

[unborn merlin]

... depends on if the thing you're clamping in is specced for multiple wires and etc usually

but yes I used one of those big screw terminal splice things recently to modify an old spa circuit for a heat pump

[mighty rose]

that and the major stuff all got changed to 16mm cable

[ocean oar]

The terminal crimper they use for the cable in our datacentre at work is fun. Most people can barely lift it.
Takes a lot of force to crimp 500mm² cable

[mighty rose]

I'm glad I don't do much mains cable stuff lol

[unborn merlin]

... well yeah usually those things tend to be hydraulic or at the very least ludicrously-high-leverage electrical crimpers.

[mighty rose]

I grumble when I have to do fibre these days lol

[ocean oar]

That one's electric, but I've seen some massive hydraulic ones that just have to be pumped like a bottle jack

[unborn merlin]

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Power-Tools/Electrical-Installation/Crimpers

Spicy boys

... on price especially

but makes sense for anyone doing that shit on the daily obviously.

[ocean oar]

Also the torque for the bolts on the bus bars. One of the apprentice electricians is quite tiny, she could have done a pull up on the handle of the torque wrench and not done it up to spec

[mighty rose]

oh man, I got excited..... Dividend time for my Spark NZ shares..... I bought them back when they were deploying the first residencial fibre networks in NZ.... The entire dividend: $23 AUD lol

[unborn merlin]

cheater bar; duh

[mighty rose]

I mean, yay - I still think it was good to show my support for proper telco networks by buying part of it.

but eh. not wise financially lol

I kinda miss those days tbh lol

[unborn merlin]

psh should've put your money where your mouth is. /s

https://www.wired.com/story/this-man-built-his-own-isp-26-million-dollar-funds/

[mighty rose]

eh - been there, done that.

[unborn merlin]

But when he started shopping around, he wasn't happy with his options. The internet speeds from AT&T were painfully slow. Comcast wanted to charge him an up-front fee of $50,000 to expand service to his home. He opted for a third route.

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gif-25117042

and apparently in the early days he was giving more speed than intended because..

he didn't have expensive enough hardware to properly do traffic shaping and etc on peoples speeds.. xD

[mighty rose]

yeah - we had 10 or 100Mbit plans - cos that's what ethernet speeds were

[unborn merlin]

only started playing with fiber in my house recently to do some backhauls between my main pc and new server that.. i still havent finished building because I;'m an idiot.. D:

[mighty rose]

yeah, 10Gbit stuff is dirt cheap now - and I can't imagine any reason for higher at homes

simply because its faster than HDDs, faster than SATA SSDs, and decently fast when backed by NVMe drives

[ocean oar]

I did fibre to the PC in my office at home because the hole I made in the wall was already full of copper cable and it was easier to fit

Singlemode BiDi transceivers that only need a single fibre instead of a pair are a lifesaver

[mighty rose]

I've been playing with bcachefs + SSD cache for tiered storage... It seems to work well

although for now, I'm doing 2 x HDDs in RAID1 + 1Tb SATA SSD as 'cache'

eventually, I'll suck it up and put a 512Gb NVMe drive or something in there as cache instead - but eh.... other more important stuff first.

[unborn merlin]

new server has...

a couple 1.4tb SAS SSD's.. and then some spinning rust for media

so should be able to saturate a good chunk of that 10g on local access.. when I get off my ass and finish designing the case..

[mighty rose]

the only time I manage to saturate 10Gbit is doing file transfers on NVMe -> NVMe

anything else, and the actual storage is slower

[unborn merlin]

it'll still be far faster thaan my current shitbox server anyways

[mighty rose]

I just got lazy..... I only have RAID on the two HDDs in RAID1 these days - everything else just lives on a single drive NVMe and replicated to a different server

big storage stuff gets its own SATA SSD as storage for the VM

ie pass through the entire SATA SSD

[unborn merlin]

gonna just go with raidz1 on my media drives so 2+1 spare or whatever.. the SAS ssds I have.. 4 of so gonna do mirrored groups of 2

[mighty rose]

yeah, basically RAID10

I went more down the path of just having multiple copies of the stuff I care about

SSDs and NVMe drives are reliable enough that I haven't had a single one fail yet

[unborn merlin]

yeah. and these are just enterprise used SAS ssd's.. I doubt one will ever fail with the load I put on em

[mighty rose]

so, seems better to just duplicate the data instead of trying to fix it on the hardware level

heh - I have a 240Gb enterprise SATA SSD here that's like 10 years old now - god knows how much data it did, and its still not even hit a reserve block of flash

I think these days, I'll probably replace drives cos I've run out of space before it gets near its EOL

eg - I have 4 x 1Tb SATA SSDs sat on my desk now - 2 still in boxes, unopened.

just no need for them atm

I used to use 2 of them in RAID1 and run all the VMs off them - but now, its faster and more reliable on the single NVMe drive

that being said, all VMs replicate their storage to another NVMe in a second proxmox node - so each node has both nodes disk images on NVMe

[ocean oar]

I was lucky to get some fell-off-the-back-of-a-truck specials on SAS SSDs that make them cheap enough to use for bulk storage.
12-wide raidz2 because space efficiency and sequential IO was more important than random

Needed to connect two 12G SAS ports to the JBOD, will do about 7.8GiB/s during a ZFS scrub

[forest edge]

I still rock sata for storage

good ole 5600 rpm

[dusty mica]

if you oil them, they will spin at 6000 rpm 😉

[forest edge]

the slower the better

[ocean oar]

I used to use those weird Seagate 5900 rpm drives

Worked fine, and for a remarkably long time

[forest edge]

Ironwolfs

they are 5600 now lol

[ocean oar]

They were just called "barracuda green" way back when

[forest edge]

oh

yea they still have those

those not nas drives

[ocean oar]

No, but being poor in about 2009 they absolutely were my NAS drives

8x 2TB in RAID6

[forest edge]

lol

[ocean oar]

Worked great for around 7 years before I needed more space

[forest edge]

I never got into that raid stuff. I couldn't justify it. mirroring.. raid1 I guess but realistically all I do is rsync once a week lol

in all my years (knock on wood) I never had a drive fail to the point I couldn't recover what I needed off it before junking it

[mighty rose]

gah - why is it so hard to get EV manufacturers to do an OTA update in Australia.....

[mighty rose]

Going way back to my alarm question.... I managed to write an automation using piper TTS that reads out the weather forecast for the day, then starts playing my local radio station on the "All Speaker" chromecast group

Probably workable - but I didn't have any massive, genius ideas on making it 'cool' lol

[forest edge]

just have it play this clip at full volume https://youtu.be/zN2BGzN6bqw?si=AXgGU5CKktmfARRY

[glacial knot]

Neat. I should add a weather report at some point

Mine reads out the TODO list sectioned by the scheduled time of the task

[mighty rose]

I wanna try and find a pa type xylophone sound to start it

but eh lol

cos all the speakers make their own noise when they turn on

I'm not sure if there's a way to turn that off

[glacial knot]

I think there is, yea. On the announce action iirc.

But mine just plays a super annoying horn as alarm, and then does the reading when I turn the alarm off

[mighty rose]

This is an interesting way around it: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/i-did-it-i-defeated-the-horrible-google-home-cast-start-prompt-sound/36123

aka play a 1 second silent MP3 every 2 minutes lol

[primal laurel]

Google trying to sell more google

[glacial knot]

it is sometimes surprising, but Google has a large marketing and sales department

[arctic quarry]

from the looks of it, that's not an accurate statement

unless you're body shaming

[tacit sonnet]

Did esp-link die?

[primal laurel]

Just advertising google OR tools

[primal laurel]

Every slide had one

[static schooner]

Slide deck generated by Gemini

[forest edge]

already starting. and so soon https://youtu.be/P9N8klac1lU?si=CxAw8BzfgksazUN_

[arctic quarry]

yeah no shit

because, yknow, they can't act

they're porn dolls at best

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/seinfeld-not-that-theres-anything-wrong-with-that-gif-10732604

[glacial knot]

most people can't act either

[static schooner]

I'm 100% sure that ads could be AI generated and nobody would notice

[weak musk]

well we will 100% find out in the near future

[glacial knot]

oi, some people don't have adblock

some people do see ads

[static schooner]

Especially anything for pharmaceuticals

[weak musk]

what kind of anti capitalism bs is that

[glacial knot]

what? Adblock?

[weak musk]

yes

I’m joking

[static schooner]

AI skips the AI ads

[glacial knot]

my most important anti-malware feature

oh yea. We already got the extra layer on email now. When will we get vibe coded websites being filtered down to sane content by AI?

AI/HTTP/TCP stack

[forest edge]

damn near mowed over a bunny hole in the back yard. on my way around for the next pass I saw two little bunnies running out. poor things

[weak finch]

Bad bunny 😂

[static schooner]

Bunnies are cute little menaces

[high remnant]

and not so cute little messes

[static schooner]

Eating plants, chewing through pipes

Having lots of little menaces that do likewise

[untold oriole]

did you know that there's an android device made by Samsung that runs (almost) AOSP?? it runs android 14, but no One UI. the settings, lock screen, control center are the same as on google pixel. guess what it is? (not a phone/tablet)

it has no battery and has ethernet, as a clue

[dusty mica]

Samsung Galaxy Tab Active Pro

[forest edge]

waiting for rare to respond with how to win steam bucks

[thick crypt]

chatGPT Codex had a rough day at "work" here today. Never encountered such strange thinking steps, spoiler... it didn't give up at the end 😅

[forest edge]

anyone else get the discord got hacked email?

[ocean oar]

Saw someone in Homelab discord talking about it

https://discord.com/press-releases/update-on-security-incident-involving-third-party-customer-service

[forest edge]

I have just 1 discord customer service ticket in the 15 years I been on discord and some third party twat got to read my joke that warrented the ticket

[light dock]

I notice the default behavior now is when you click into an automation, the sections are expanded. Is there any way to stop that and keep everything compact?

[high remnant]

I am suprised that thsi is just the first time

[jaunty breach]

hmm, is Shelly discontinuing their 0-10v stuff? doesnt show up on their site by default, have to search for it

[ocean oar]

I assumed the DALI things were to be the replacement there, but there's still only one of those.
Both it and the dimmer are gen 3 devices though, so you wouldn't think one was much older than the other

Was actually looking at one of those this week myself. Have some hard-wired garden lights I'm planning

[unborn merlin]

you're right.

Because I block all of this shit.. 😄

[minor bobcat]

Some ads of big companies are already 70% Ai, some even more. Many media agencies are looking for new hires that have experience in ai generated content. Written and/or pictures.

[forest edge]

https://y.yarn.co/723bfda9-94d9-45e2-a516-522944c2a18e_text.gif

[primal laurel]

Any recommendations for a laptop that runs Linux well with a long battery life? Small form factor 15 inch, no gpu. I'm thinking framework with a 61Wh battery but perhaps there are better options

[last cedar]

Which? Raid trash cans or chill?

Or both?

Did anyone see this on the reddit?

Absolutely amazing

Would this correctly identify the deer that eats from my birdfeeder though, is the important question?

[solar zealot]

Both

[last cedar]

[arctic quarry]

"that's AI" is the new "that's CG". you only notice it when it sucks.

[solar zealot]

It always sucks

That's the fun part

[arctic quarry]

getting pretty old tho

[static schooner]

Generic scenes and people not trying to act at all and always awkward anyway. Generic TV announcer voice

I actually wonder if drug companies already do it and I just haven't noticed

[swift prism]

as i have been setting up my old iPad for the “living room/dining room/kitchen tablet” i have determined that, in reality, you can never have too many dashboards

[jaunty breach]

cant even get the non-pro 0-10v on amazon anymore

[jaunty breach]

do the Shelly DALI support 0-10v as well? I didnt know that was a thing

i got their wall dimmer switches, but they're triac, i need something to convert.. which seems non trivial, so thought about looping their inwall dimmer in

[calm kindle]

Has anyone an idea where I can get a lamp like that has any integrations? I can only find "dumb" lights in that shape/design. I am EU based

[solar zealot]

Hue Aurelle

Tho there is no support here, consider opening a post in the right channel

[sonic edge]

What is the actual point of tasmota firmware? It's a hassle to install, then it's a big hassle to connect

Only improvement over sonoff firmware is it shows reactive powerbut everything is worse

[primal laurel]

Go esphome

[sonic edge]

Bruh now I have to desolder those stupid ass buss bars again

[solar zealot]

it not being shit firmware ;D

[sonic edge]

So having a 2 second delay on the push button is not shitty?

[solar zealot]

thats just wifi for ya

[sonic edge]

On the button on the device

Not over network

[solar zealot]

[scenic radish]

@sonic edge by default, there's a delay for single press because multipress is enabled. If you don't plan to use multipress, you can make the button press instant with SetOption13

Shouldn't be 2 seconds though. I think it's like 400 ms

[hallow wasp]

Anyone have a Sora 2 code they can share?

[swift prism]

Oh right.. thats why in the past i had issues with Google 🫠 good thing i turn 18 in two weeks

[lavish badger]

I think I may have turned my garage into a night club.

[orchid rose]

you think

[lavish badger]

hopefully the wife will like it.

[orchid rose]

hopefully you asked beforehand lol

[lavish badger]

Meh it’s the garage I doubt she cares

[smoky current]

so a lot of people talk about how you want to try to offload as much of your smart devices from being on wifi to reduce throughput hits online, but i'm starting to wonder how much of an impact does that even have

[lavish badger]

It really doesn’t seem to hurt my network

Mind you anything mission critical is wired.

[grizzled orbit]

i keep adding more stuff

[smoky current]

for instance i'm looking to replace all the downlights in my house with smart ones (no I don't want to go the route of smart switches), which means i need around 32 downlights. i've been trying really hard to avoid using wifi lights because of what people have said, but the reality is I don't get how it would even be a problem

[lavish badger]

That would be a lot of bulbs. Unless they’re on some kind of linked controller.

[smoky current]

most of these devices might at most use a couple megabytes a month in terms of throughput from what i've seen

[smoky current]

i mean, if you put them into groups in home assistant, why would that matter?

[lavish badger]

It’s still single devices on wifi though

[smoky current]

would just be annoying in the beginning pairing them though

[smoky current]

sure, what's the issue with that though?

[lavish badger]

More devices is more congestion.

[smoky current]

but congestion only occurs when a lot of data is being moved by all the deices, no?

[lavish badger]

Plus iot stuff is usually pretty bad at negotiating speeds and too many could slow your network. Plus depending on your router it may not handle too many very well.

[smoky current]

these lights aren't going to be sending a lot of data all the time, in reality they're really not sending much at all is what i'd imagine

[lavish badger]

Like I have probably 60 iot devices on WiFi. But isolated ssid, isolated vlan and it’s all commercial grade WiFi

[smoky current]

yeah, i'm not worried about my home's hardware

[lavish badger]

Is it made by netgear or similar.

Cause those worry me

[smoky current]

no

it's all ubiquiti

[lavish badger]

Ah same here.

[smoky current]

two u7 pro's connected to a udm

[lavish badger]

Just give them their own ssid and turn off base station transition.

[smoky current]

already have a separate vlan for iot

[lavish badger]

That setting drove me batty

[smoky current]

so i feel like i'm probably fine getting smart bulbs that work on wifi

because...it seems like there's very very few zigbee/zwave downlights out there

[lavish badger]

That many bulbs I wonder if something like Lutron is better.

[smoky current]

lutron what

[lavish badger]

I guess the question is do you just want smart or you’re going to go like full rgb control

[smoky current]

well my ideal is a smart light with dimming/white temp and a nightlight ring

[lavish badger]

Here’s the problem I’ve had with a lot of smart bulbs. What happens when one of them loses pairing.

[smoky current]

to wifi?

[lavish badger]

Yeah. They do it a lot.

[smoky current]

what causes that

[lavish badger]

Just need a factory reset.

They’re cheap esp devices?

[smoky current]

yeah, don't have an answer to that

thing is, i don't want smart switches, mainly because finding ones that will replace the existing 3 gang switches in my home is...almost non existent

[lavish badger]

I mean it is what it is but climbing up there if they need a reset will suck.

Huh? They’re the same size as a regular switch.

[smoky current]

i could not find any 3 gang ones

unless i'm just a moron, which is also possible

[lavish badger]

You replace single switches

There’s no such thing as a 3 gang switch. There’s 3 singles in there.

[smoky current]

sure, but 3 single panels isn't going to fit in a 3 panel existing setup, no?

[lavish badger]

No it will.

I have boxes with three smart switches in there. They’re a bit deeper but totally doable.

[smoky current]

maybe i'm misinterpreting something

let me grab a quick photo

[lavish badger]

Please.

[smoky current]

now i think i understand what you're getting at

faceplates don't matter

harvest the switches and install them

[lavish badger]

That’s two side by side.

Yeah that’s still 3 single switches

[smoky current]

look...it's been a rough like 8 weeks between buying and moving into a new home

cut me some slack

[lavish badger]

No judgment here.

[smoky current]

then the question becomes finding a light that will work with them with a nightlight function

....i guess the real question is how would a dumb one be controlled by it

[lavish badger]

Best you could do I think is dimmers

[smoky current]

as an example something like this https://www.amazon.com/Amico-Recessed-Selectable-Ultra-Thin-Downlight/dp/B0B2W5D7QR

honestly...maybe these aren't a good example

then again, it would just be programming an automation for the switch mode to turn on the nightlight

except the temperature couldn't be controlled then with these

i think for a light with temperature control, dimming, and the nightlight it would have to be smart outside of the switch, no? @lavish badger

[lavish badger]

Generally ues

Yes

[forest edge]

@last cedar https://youtube.com/shorts/oA5CH6G5Nqw?si=_cjxT64KtthoW_VM

[lone dagger]

@last cedar She's getting finished this weekend!

Just tied the top closed. Tabitha is a hefty girl.

[ocean oar]

That is quite the no context image 🤣

[arctic quarry]

lol that perspective

tiny human looks like she's like ankle height 😛

[ocean oar]

I think it's the child having basically no shadow that really messes with your head

[arctic quarry]

oh yeah

looks shopped, almost

anw, lovely pic 🙂 happy tiny humans make big humans happy

[untold oriole]

actually a WA65F

[lone dagger]

She was very surprised to see the camera that way. 😂

For context on how large the body of this long Furby is, I'm 5'6" / 167.5 cm.

[arctic quarry]

chonker

[lone dagger]

[arctic quarry]

just for shits and giggles, I googled Furby to make sure I remembered the right thing from my childhood and OH HOLY GOD WHAT HELLSPAWN IS THI

[forest edge]

what am I looking at? that suppose to be a huge snuggle pickle?

Body Pickle Pillow I guess one might say

[forest edge]

at least you can dance without fear of people making fun of you

[lavish badger]

Like that’s ever stopped me from doing anything.

[smoky current]

well, turns out regardless the only way i'll make this work is by punching out all the j-boxes in my ceiling

so this idea is a wash lol

i think they have to be dumb lights to make this work, all smart ones have a j-box included that needs to be used

[lavish badger]

Unless like you said you want a bunch of single bulbs

[smoky current]

even that won't work

because they all come with jboxes

smart or not smart

[lavish badger]

Huh?

Aren't we talking like can lights?

[smoky current]

can lights with a night light

[lavish badger]

Oh. Yeah, if you want the "night lights" it's a whole new fixture, there's no way around that.

[smoky current]

yeah, i'm just giving up on the entire idea for now

[jaunty breach]

These are pretty. I need a 0-10v dimmer i wonder if they've got one

[smoky current]

i don't want to punch out all the jboxes

[lavish badger]

Go low tech for the night lights, do the ones that go into your outlet covers.

[smoky current]

yeah, that isn't what i want though lol

i'm stubborn about these things

[lavish badger]

If you have a very specific result in mind and won't compromise, the hardest path may be the only one.

[jaunty breach]

oh, no 0-10v. i've come to the conclusion that all 0-10v smart switches are fugly

[lavish badger]

Those lightswitches are discontinued.

[smoky current]

yeah, it's just something i'm not going to compromise on

[jaunty breach]

oh. wonder why

[lavish badger]

Because Belkin no longer supports them

It was costing them too much

[jaunty breach]

ah

[lavish badger]

I wouldn't recommend them to anyone anyhow. They do have local control over HA, but that's only because someone reverse engineered the API calls

[jaunty breach]

haha. ChatGPT's like "you can use shelly, or wait for an imagine future product"

[stuck mortar]

Zooz makes a 0-10v in wall relay. I think you can bind it with a dimmer switch in smart bulb mode

[unborn merlin]

they couldn't extract enough personal data/money from customers*

[empty hound]

hey guys and gals

what do you guys think of this...

https://www.amazon.ca/Z-Wave-Me-mPCIe-Z-Wave-Zigbee-Support/dp/B0CXDY79NZ

recently pulled the trigger on a HP Prodesk 800 G6 on eBay to run HA on

since the unit does not have the wifi card installed i been thinking of pulling the trigrer on a "combo" card instead of the wifi

[unborn merlin]

.... really really weird that it wouldn't have a wifi onboard all of those tend to.

[empty hound]

was removed as it previously had a coral TPU in that slot

[unborn merlin]

ah, thatd do it.

[empty hound]

and i wasn't willing to pay $100 for a coral board

as thats what he wanted for it

[unborn merlin]

it shouldn't be that expensive 🤣

[empty hound]

its not, but aparently because i opted out of the coral board he upgraded me to 64GB of RAM for free

[scenic radish]

If I had both a Zigbee and zwave network, personally I'd want separate adapters

[empty hound]

i was just readin up on the CNX unit that has separate radios

Mixtile’s “2-in-1 Zigbee & Z-Wave mPCIe module

https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/06/12/20-zigbee-z-wave-mpcie-module-targets-home-assistant-gateways/

looks like 2 separate "radios" to me

the amazon one looks like its 10x the price of the CNX unit

[unborn merlin]

the "eat shit its amazon" upcharge

[scenic radish]

Yeah I'm sure it's two radios, but it's a single adapter

So a single point of failure

[unborn merlin]

https://www.mixtile.com/store/accessory/mixtile-2-in-1-zigbee-z-wave-mpcie-interface-module/

Except you can't buy it for 20$

because they bundle it.

hello r/assholedesign

[empty hound]

hear me out..... lol

i mean there isnt much there to start off with

but i do feel this may turn out into a jlcpcb order lol

[unborn merlin]

the stupid zwave chip is probably like

10$ alone

because all zwave chipsets have the licensing fees and etc bundled into them

[empty hound]

https://www.silabs.com/wireless/zigbee/efr32mg24-series-2-socs#

[unborn merlin]

that is a zigbee chip.

not a z-waave chip

[empty hound]

looks like half that at "volume"

[unborn merlin]

** Matter, OpenThread and Zigbee protocols**

not z-wave

[empty hound]

thats one chip

still doing homework on what they are using for the other

[unborn merlin]

again.

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/silicon-labs/ZM5101A-CME3R/4515964

zwave chips bake the licensing bullshit fees into the hardware

[empty hound]

https://www.silabs.com/wireless/proprietary/efr32fg23-sub-ghz-wireless-soc

[unborn merlin]

again; not a z-wave chipset.

[unborn merlin]

F vs Z means things.

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/silicon-labs/EFR32ZG14P231F256GM32-BR/9867101

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/silicon-labs/EFR32ZG14P231F256GM32-B/9867100

7.24 the cheapest that is available on digikey.

[empty hound]

i wonder though....

samples avialble ??

LMFAO

[unborn merlin]

no, there are not any random workarounds or samples.

these companies are not charities.

and to use things.

you pay the license fees.

its one of the big reasons that z-wave is not as popular these days.

because that single chip (not even a working product)

costs more than an entire esp32c6 with wifi/bt/zigbee/thread.

https://www.seeedstudio.com/Seeed-Studio-XIAO-ESP32C6-p-5884.html

[empty hound]

looks like the main interface is over USB, so even a blutooth interface is possible if one gets a bit excited and moved it to a standard 2280 footprint

[unborn merlin]

or you can just.. not waste time and buy an existing usb dongle.

[empty hound]

i hate a wart hanging off the back of the pc

[unborn merlin]

function over fashion.

its a server device.

[empty hound]

not when it sits on my desk

[unborn merlin]

that sounds like a skill issue. 🤷‍♂️

[empty hound]

gotta have that wide factor and with the kids around it going to be a matter of time before it get pulled out

[glacial knot]

build one of those baby fences around the PC 😂

[unborn merlin]

or jtust put it somewhere not dumb

[unborn merlin]

yes, lead time 12 weeks.

So they say.

if they ever do get it to you.

backordered

[empty hound]

if you dont knock you dont know it they answer 😉

[unborn merlin]

I'd prefer to just not waste my time and design more useful things. 🙃

is this an "actually has designed pcbs before" thing or an "i'm going to use ai slop thing"?

[empty hound]

several

no AI slop

and there is a ton of data with these chip

its not black magic

[unborn merlin]

well.

It involves RF.

So it sort of is.

[empty hound]

top layer carries all the RF

its visible to the naked eye

couple of CLC networks

nothing else fancy

[unborn merlin]

so maybe you'll have em in january.

[empty hound]

im in no hurry

im still in an appartment and new house wont be ready till mid march / feb

at least in the end someone else wont end up under the "assholedesign" hammer

[unborn merlin]

... primarily because the majority of people do the sane thing that is just buy a damn adapter and move on.

[empty hound]

lol

have you looked at the world around us ???

not many "sane" people left

[unborn merlin]

you're in canada not the USA; so you don't have the excuse of tariffs driving up adapters or anything like that.

you already admitted you just dont want a dongle.. its a dumb argument to rest on. 😄

[empty hound]

if you speak your mind some keyboard warrior will come toss their pronous at you and unalive you

[unborn merlin]

....ahhh there's the asshole flag

[empty hound]

sure

[unborn merlin]

just as reliable as the confederate flag or the punisher blue-lives-matter stripe thing..

[glacial knot]

I am so confused

[unborn merlin]

😄 someone decided to show the whiny dickbag flag so I just went with a block.

[glacial knot]

also, from what I've seen, CA got hit by some of the tarifs, because they had their supply chain set up to go through the US. Not sure if that got fixed by now

[mighty rose]

The US is a long way from being 'fixed' lol

[glacial knot]

nah, but supply chains might be changed so they don't go through there

[mighty rose]

last time I did some free samples was making some max232 thingo

but accidentally got surface mount, not through hole lol

[torn void]

How can I add custom effects to lights in HA? I'm using z2m integration for the lights

[forest edge]

#1284966617670881350

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/elrond-lotr-lord-of-the-tings-lord-elrond-3000years-gif-13229890

I am so happy right now, been waiting with (rabies) bated breath

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-db-shotgun-gif-21597283

[arctic quarry]

⬆️ unsolicited death device

Powershell is down with the vintage memes, apparently

[last cedar]

Oh deer, oh deer, oh deer, oh deer.

[smoky current]

bah, automations for smartblinds aren't working, something about unsupported cluster command, time to research

[torn void]

Thanks, just created a post there

[ashen gulch]

Hi everyone, I just set up my home assistant yellow with a CM5 and a SSD for storage. I would like to store much longer history than the default setting. Ideally I want detailed 5+ year (I have around 50 between sensors and switches). I want to avoid to have an external server to hold the metrics. What do you suggest? Influx DB integration? Can I make HA just use influx DB and not the default one? Is there a better solution?

[solar zealot]

You should open a post in the right channel

The short answer is both no and that you don't really want this to happen by the ways available to homeassistant

[ashen gulch]

I am new in the communicty? Do you know what channel should I post in?

[weak musk]

#1284966540617449515 would be where I’d start @ashen gulch

[solar zealot]

Naw I got

[ashen gulch]

Thank you

[smoky current]

Guess I'm switching from zha to z2m

[junior lintel]

Hey all! Just discovered Home Assistant, and excited to check it out. I've recently become a first time home-haver and want to supercharge my home automation. Seems a little scary and confusing (and potentially expensive), but I'm excited to dig in!

[stuck mortar]

Everything about owning a home is expensive

…is how I justify spending so much on home automation

[junior lintel]

Love me some sunk cost fallacy

[buoyant parrot]

does home assistant support x rocker leds - neo motion technology

if they dont im willing to reverse engineer from the ground up

[iron granite]

#1284966353798697001 might know

[buoyant parrot]

posted in developer too

ig

plugins

[frail pulsar]

has anyone here tried the streamdeck + ha combo? i wanna try it out for simple light dimming in my gaming room and switch to different scenes but idk if it works well enough that im willing to buy the stream deck

im way to new to be even considering these kinds of things lmaooooooo

[golden wing]

i made an automation that forces me to get out of bed after my alarm, my morning routine automation enables this automation and sets the datetime helper to the current time when the morning routine ran (which is when my alarm goes off)

this automation repeats from there every 2 minutes and only turns off once i get out of bed. the notification that's sent uses the alarm channel on android so it actually plays my alarm sound rather than just a normal notification sound

[forest edge]

if it connects to the internet you can always monitor it's state with ping through local network

[high remnant]

i have but i wouldn’t buy a stream dek for that specific use case tbh

[brazen thunder]

Tnx for cleaning that (spam)

[frail pulsar]

Any cheaper alternative that works equally well or better?

[unborn merlin]

most usual ICs these days do tend to be SMT not thruhole yes.. 😛

[high remnant]

not that i know. i have the original and it works alright

haven’t gotten it specifically for HA but it work good lol

[frail pulsar]

I’ll see if i can find some used ones in my area but thanks for letting me know it works

[unborn merlin]

I mean most people would use likes.. https://us.shelly.com/products/shelly-blu-rc-button-4

Something like this for simple stuff like that

(including myself once I get off my ass and attach it with an automation..)

[last cedar]

Looking for some hardware advice...

|| I only want to be notified of raccoon presence

Thinking mmwave and vocs (they are normal pretty stinky), anyone got any other ideas? ||

[unborn merlin]

lol.

[stuck mortar]

||Open close sensor on a “raccoon-proof” trash can. They’ll break in soon enough||

[unborn merlin]

clearly push frigate to include racoons in the tags trained. /s

[smoky current]

whenever i see a product listing on amazon that seems cheaper than it should, and has a spelling mistake, i get super suspicious....dunno if i want to risk buying this eaton z wave smart dimmer switch for 13 bucks or not

[unborn merlin]

... zwave chipsets alone tend to go for like.. 5-10$

lovely licensing fees baked in.

[smoky current]

that's why i'm suspicious

[unborn merlin]

could be liquidation.. maybe not being made anymore..

matters less if its zwave obviously since no cloud required.

[smoky current]

the fact that there's only one product review though is another strike

[pale sundial]

how do i install the Dependencies from this dashboard style? https://github.com/ElementZoom/Material-Design-3-Dynamic-Mobile-Dashboard

[austere anchor]

#1339404019164250293 message

Also this was posted here too: https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1391764115432931448

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/keymaster-rick-morranis-ghostbusters-gif-5741907

[static schooner]

The Gatekeeper, I guess

[raven basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/ghostbusters-dana-zool-gif-13218571

[last cedar]

I love this hahaha

[last cedar]

It keeps saying zebra!!!

[forest edge]

ai is completely spoiling me with making stuff for HA (@tidal bronze curse you! )

it's by no means cut and dry, I feel like I have to teach the damn thing calculus before it will start getting things right but it's the journey I guess

helped me make a simple dashboard card for my farm ha so I can get a glance at what images it captures on detections instead of me going into the media folders and looking

@last cedar Guess what animals those are!

[unborn merlin]

treat the automations as if looking for zebras then duh. /s

[last cedar]

|| please be raccoons ||
|| please be raccoons ||
|| please be raccoons ||
|| please be raccoons ||
|| please be raccoons ||
|| please be raccoons ||

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-mighty-omega-gif-22253898

[sudden heath]

Add event button in Calendar view is adding wrong date.

[silent dove]

The topic of this channel is:

There’s no support here - only chill. Come in, grab a drink, chat with your fellow community members! This is a space to talk to other smart home enthusiasts. If you’re "just asking a question", you're asking for support. Head to https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284968640189304913 to help you find where you should post your question. No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

[lapis cairn]

Probably timezone related

[primal laurel]

<@&330946878646517761> spam

[scenic radish]

Gone

[summer depot]

Sometime over the last couple months has the HA stack become a little more efficient? My avg CPU used to be about 6-7% now it's 4-5%. I haven't removed anything.

[primal laurel]

That's well within a margin of error. Why would you even care about 1% difference 😂

[urban viper]

It's that time again, Amazon Prime Day! For those of you interested in seeing or sharing deals, we have a https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1424764586896261282 pinned for you in the #1284966353798697001 channel. 😌

[summer depot]

I'm not mathematician, like you claim to be, but a long term change in average CPU uses from 6-7 to 4-5 is about a 20% relative change. It may not be significant without tailored benchmarking that includes a number of load types but may indicate improvement in the system. I was curious if this was indicative that performance improvements had been made. From casual recall of many changes in the HA ecosystem it seems that there has been an effort to remove busy-waiting. Do the HA developers use benchmarking and/or use code profiling to identify and remove inefficiencies?

[primal laurel]

it's python. It's slow as shit and runs single threaded. There is fuck all optimization in python. More likely something changed on your host system

[unborn merlin]

hey if you want speed figure a way to get it to run on GraalVM 😛

[primal laurel]

What's that 😂

[unborn merlin]

https://www.graalvm.org/python/docs/

Its taking python and throwing it into the JVM

and the JVM is probably one of the most performant VM's for code to run it.. by way of the hilarious amount of work thrown behind java shit to make it run better and etc.

[summer depot]

It's a dedicated n100 mini running HAOS. The only changes are those in the HA environment

[primal laurel]

You never update anything on the host system?

[summer depot]

If HA is single-threaded I can see how busy-waiting would kill performance

[summer depot]

Only HAOS, Supervisor, HA core, addons, and HACS that show up as updates

[vale dust]

lmao I just switched from a ZBT-1 to a sonoff zigbee coordinator and it's so different now

before there was like 1 bulb that was connected to the coordinator and that bulb was the parent to pretty much everything

now it's this

i guess that's what a dedicated big antenna does for you

[frail pulsar]

maaan i did an oopsie and that hits different when broke. i heard so much ab ikea trådløs bulbs so i bough a conbee 2 and some bulbs and just now found out its changed from zigbee to matter on the trådløs :((((((((((

biig ooopsie

so now im stuck with matter bulbs and a pi with a conbee 2 for zigbee

if only the damn skyconnect was availible i'd have bought that one and if i remember correctly it supports matter and zigbee? cost around the same too

i hate my life

[vale dust]

do you mean tradfri?

[frail pulsar]

yes

its tråd tho

[vale dust]

tradfri is matter now?

[frail pulsar]

yes

as of july 2025

[vale dust]

what country are you in? US?

[frail pulsar]

this is in the product description of trådfri and the hub it belongs to "Smart products connected to the DIRIGERA hub are compatible with all smart home platforms that use the Matter standard."

[frail pulsar]

no

ikea moving away from zigbee

and towards matter

[vale dust]

i live in the UK and the bulbs they sell are still zigbee

[vale dust]

is it wifi or thread?

[frail pulsar]

I'll have to see im grabbing them from the post office today but I saw THAT on the website and googled and asked ai and all results lead to them switching out zigbee

uhm thread I think

[vale dust]

no price change?

[frail pulsar]

i'll check the box when i grab them and see if its a M or a Z on the box

[frail pulsar]

No clue

i paid like 17£

for a gu10

with color option

[vale dust]

a single gu10?

[frail pulsar]

well yes but i bought for of them so

four

[vale dust]

oh you're UK too?

[frail pulsar]

no

norway

[vale dust]

how come you used £

[frail pulsar]

because I know you do so why convert it from NOK to something else than quid

[vale dust]

oh thank you lol

[frail pulsar]

no worries

but i dont know the exact conversion rate but ca 17 quid

179 NOK if you wanna check

[vale dust]

i just bought 9 Matter/Thread coloured B22 bulbs for £28

[frail pulsar]

costs too much here

[vale dust]

Nanoleaf Essential - they're a bit laggy for state updates but i'm unsure whether that's just Thread/Matter or these bulbs in particular

[frail pulsar]

and import taxes are so up i cant buy anything off amazon or any other ww service

[vale dust]

they're running quite the deal

[frail pulsar]

crazy deal actually

well i gotta close up the shop now and head home and I'll see. hopefully AI was wrong and its still zigbee 🙏

[vale dust]

they're only 806lm and they're no phillips hue bulbs in terms of colour reproduction, but they're okay

[frail pulsar]

my thoughts exactly with ikea. one of the cheapest you can get in norway. tapo is eaily around 20£ and only wifi

[vale dust]

ikea barely sells RGB bulbs here

they sell coloured bulbs but only specific preset colours (like 10), rather than RGB

[jaunty breach]

Hmm, just called shelly about the 0-10v gen 3 dimmer.. they're like "yea that's discontinued, we're not making new ones, the gen4 isnt out yet, no idea when it'll be out"

[vale dust]

probably because the colour repro is crap lol

[jaunty breach]

anyone else in similar league as shelly?

[unborn merlin]

... not really no? 🤷‍♂️

[jaunty breach]

product i need doesnt exist, so trying to cobble something together :/

[unborn merlin]

https://us.shelly.com/products/shelly-0-1-10v-dimmer-pm-gen3

I mean its still for sale..?

[jaunty breach]

Yea this is the product i called them about. they've been discontinued. still have a small amount of stock tho

[frail pulsar]

Yeah the one i bought aswell is like that. 9 preset colours. But thats okay I just want it to set a mood when i watch tv and normal light when im not

But just gotta hope its a damn zigbee bulb when i go pick it up

[vale dust]

the product page says it still needs the ikea hub so i dont think they're on matter yet

[jaunty breach]

looks like the Gen4 stuff will be matter tho

[frail pulsar]

If not its gonna be like months until i can get the skyconnect

Empty every store

[vale dust]

does norway not have amazon?

[frail pulsar]

Not getting any more of them either

[vale dust]

just get a sonoff

[frail pulsar]

We can order from it but we pay 25 og 30 percent import tax

Or*

[unborn merlin]

gen4 I presume uses ESP32C6 stuff inside because its thread/zigbee/wifi/bt.

[frail pulsar]

so it becomes very expensive

[vale dust]

why specifically the skyconnect

just get this

[jaunty breach]

oh its thread as well? not just matter?

i thought it was matter over wifi

[vale dust]

is matter over thread state updates generally laggy or is it just these cheap bulbs i have?

compared to zigbee

[unborn merlin]

oh

i think I misread

either way.

its still good. 🤷‍♂️

https://www.cnx-software.com/2025/03/24/shelly-launches-gen4-multi-protocol-smart-switch-family-with-wi-fi-bluetooth-zigbee-and-matter/

But given that its using the esp32C6

[vale dust]

the actual on/off state of the bulb updates instantly but it takes this long for HA (and other controllers to detect)

[unborn merlin]

its entirely possible to flash it to esphome or soemthing with thread if that comes to be someday.. 😛

[summer depot]

What did you use to create that network graph?

[visual walrus]

Not quite sure where to put this, but I'd like to just rage at the lousy UX in finding this "troubleshooting -> thread credentials" button https://community.home-assistant.io/t/sync-thread-credentials-failed/821818/6 on the companion app

There's gotta be a better place to put that.

[primal laurel]

not here. Try feature requests

[tidal bronze]

Sorry. Having some guinea pig and thinking of you. 👊

[forest edge]

your eating pets now?

what poor kid did you snatch that thing from?

[tidal bronze]

Kid?

[static schooner]

That food appears to be on fire

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

[forest edge]

you monster. you are eating that poor person's companion and even forced him to set it ablaze!

i hope that poor creatures screams in agony haunt you in your sleep

[tidal bronze]

You gotta submit your complaint card to the Inca nation.

[swift prism]

what would be the best place to ask for quick advice on HA configuration/dashboard (i don't think its long enough to justify a thread imo)

[iron granite]

The best place would be a thread in #1284966540617449515 for HA configuration and in #1284965988642590891 for dashboards.

[static schooner]

Who has a fuzzy belly?

[swift prism]

MEOW

[simple gazelle]

I wish to bury my nose in the wooly smell, though it may be a trap

[weak musk]

That’s a pretty cat

[static schooner]

He can be a bit of a bully toward the other cats before I've fed him in the morning, but he makes up for it in furriness and purrs

[slim wharf]

I just want to note out into the void, that my HA cloud backups absolutely saved my bacon this past week and made every dollar of my nabu kasa subscription instantly worthwhile, My lil' N100 that was dedicated to my home automation stuff popped randomly at 5am on morning, and once I realized what had happened (and that the machine wasn't coming back), I spun up a new HA VM on my proxmox homelab and restoring the backup took about 2 minutes, and everything came up perfectly (except frigate, because that machine doesn't have a sufficient GPU, and it was running in its own non-backed up docker container)

[high remnant]

https://old.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1nzxypf/microsoft_is_plugging_more_holes_that_let_you_use/ LOLOLOL

[primal laurel]

You think it's an operating system, they think it's a data collection system.

[high remnant]

datahoover goes BRRRRR

[ocean oar]

https://tenor.com/view/suck-space-balls-vacusuck-talking-gif-16681225

[primal laurel]

look at all this windows hate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHLTOdsqDRg

https://tenor.com/view/evil-smile-evil-evil-laugh-gif-8636228558756676470

[high remnant]

I find him really annoying to watch tbh

but taht is just me

[primal laurel]

why that

[high remnant]

I think it is the way he talks

it just irritates me

he can't help it

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/you-problem-gif-27042036

[high remnant]

ikr

[high remnant]

I just hate the world and people in general

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-my-life-oh-my-life-steve-carell-gif-19396488

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze amazon has this on sale for prime day. you should get it as a reminder of what kind of monster you are eating the poor thing you ate. https://www.amazon.com/Mushplushies-Realistic-Childrens-Christmas-Multicolor/dp/B0F1DHQMK6

[tidal bronze]

Gordon Ramsey said it's good. Blame him.

[civic citrus]

Nvm me stupido

[glacial knot]

Is one enough? Or do you need two?

[peak slate]

Man making me defend qf

Ginuea pig is a red meat in case you wanted to know

It's a main protein in Peruvian dishes

Also where I had alpaca, 🦙 which is also pretty good

[wintry falcon]

its leaking time

:3

-# ima bouta get banned for this arnt i

[dawn badge]

shh, we don't talk about the badly kept secrets.

[wintry falcon]

lmao

[lone dagger]

y u leak my stuff

jk we haven't been subtle. There's even a role if people looked. ;D

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/leaking-water-leaking-flex-tape-fixing-leak-water-leak-fix-gif-12150979

Live video of Missy

[scenic radish]

zigbeegate

[iron granite]

Fancy name for an adapter to plug two SkyConnect/ZBT-1 into one USB port.

[weak musk]

ur a dongle

[dusty mica]

cool, dongleberries

[scenic radish]

[raven basalt]

Pro tip: If you get a few of those and plug them all together you can get a zbt6

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[smoky current]

Has anyone had much luck with mmwave presence sensors and pet detection?

Read a lot of conflicting reviews and opinions

[weak musk]

as in you want them detected or you don't? Also #1284966353798697001

[primal laurel]

My new Windows laptop at work has a 1:30 battery life doing absolutely nothing. Averaging 50% CPU utilization just from background processes like anti malware, 'services', windows defender. It's impressively bad

[smoky current]

Be able to distinguish/not trigger for them

Also posted, thanks. I haven't had much luck with posting threads/topics on here but maybe I'll get lucky this time

[ocean oar]

At least that should help lessen the blow of switching to Linux for most people. Shit battery life has been part of the experience there for years, will feel just like home

[scenic radish]

Has it? I switched to Ubuntu on my Chromebook months ago, and battery life is about the same if not better

I had only used it on desktop until then though, so maybe it was worse before

[ocean oar]

Honestly (as much as I love Linux on everything), only a few pieces of hardware and/or only quite recently.

Still worth it, for not dealing with windows' shit all these years

[primal laurel]

Lol what. Battery life on linux is so much better

[ocean oar]

When it's good, it's good. Then something changes and it's not anymore. Or (like my current Dell xps), suspend-to-ram no longer works for no particularly obvious reason and despite all attempts to resolve it

My #1 best Linux laptop experience was when I had a Sony laptop in the mid 2010s and Linus Torvalds bought nearly the same one. All my issues with it evaporated within maybe two kernel releases 😆

[primal laurel]

I was mainly talking about active usage. All the background crap running on Windows really hurts battery life. This laptop is practically unusable while traveling because of that

[weak musk]

Comparing a work laptop to a personal laptop is a pretty poor point of reference

[high remnant]

well to unlock the rest of the battery’s capacity you’d need to login to your ms account so they can lose your files in one drive

[primal laurel]

Why? And who's doing that?

[primal laurel]

I need to pay zucker bucks?

[weak musk]

lol aren’t you?

[primal laurel]

No

[weak musk]

Work laptops are almost always underpowered and have 10x the bloat in my experience

(Windows ones anyway)

[high remnant]

get a better employer

[high remnant]

yes and pray to our AI overlord

[weak musk]

I have a personal laptop running Ubuntu and another running win 11– they’re about the same performance wise

[primal laurel]

Crap running in the background is mostly windows own stuff

[weak musk]

Aren’t you like 12?

[primal laurel]

Malware executable is the biggest one. Pretty much constant 30%

[weak musk]

I agree

[high remnant]

17, actually

[iron granite]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/744321107250774079/1272495162387468288/AI_Inquisition.gif

[high remnant]

we fought them for 80 years!

[primal laurel]

It's 2025, after years of making fun of unix now we can finally make fun of windows

[ocean oar]

One of our laptops was doing this, the "solution" (at least apparently) was to manually exclude defender from scanning itself.
Exactly the kind of thing you'd expect from an OS they're proudly claiming is 30% vibe coded

Found a thread on Reddit with a bunch of people saying that worked for them

[primal laurel]

You think i can control anything security related on a work laptop

[high remnant]

welll we could like 15 years ago

and i have been

[primal laurel]

It's time to intensify neckbeard operations

[glacial knot]

wdym you aren't root? What are you?

[high remnant]

hey calll me by my name

respect my beard

https://tenor.com/view/erm-actually-aksually-nerd-glasses-gif-8878213218975325965

[weak musk]

Bro you’re like 95% neck beard

[high remnant]

rage bait

[high remnant]

😂😂😂

[weak musk]

I don’t care about Microsoft

I don’t care about Linux

[high remnant]

do you care about me tho?

🥺👉👈

[weak musk]

I care about HAOS more than Mac OS, windows, or Ubuntu

[scenic radish]

https://tenor.com/view/joan-jett-gif-21553953

[primal laurel]

Don't you care about arch btw

[high remnant]

which doritos and mtdew do you like

[weak musk]

Only the ones holding up bridges

[primal laurel]

The one that gives me yellow fingers

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-cheeseball-day-cheeseballs-national-cheeseball-day-cheeseball-day-gif-16912972

anyhow i have my car back

let’s see how long it survives this time

[glacial knot]

BSDer

[iron granite]

17 - 12 = ... are you sure about that?

[high remnant]

imagine lying on the internet

i wouldn’t

(i have no clue how he came to that age tbh)

[glacial knot]

idgi

why would it be -12 when it's 15 years ago?

[high remnant]

someone said that lol

[high remnant]

^

and i just ran with it

👀

[iron granite]

Yeah. Mixed up 12 and 15 years. Still within the margin.

[high remnant]

(also sorry i didn’t mean to mention him )

[high remnant]

no i am OLD

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[high remnant]

i have a walker

[primal laurel]

Sonoma is old

[high remnant]

is this a good opportunity to make a yo momma joke

[glacial knot]

oh, so you are 12

[high remnant]

12 out of 10, yes

https://tenor.com/view/alarmed-scared-startled-kyo-sohma-anime-boy-gif-3410335270550326827

[glacial knot]

Can we keep him? We lost atx along the way somewhere

[high remnant]

😂😂

no I am old enough to have know the original K3 and the skating PM

😂😂😂

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/run-backward-baby-cute-walker-gif-12361326

[high remnant]

yeah and i drive a little tikes

🥺

[summer light]

tinkering with my first esphome device this is so nice

[glacial knot]

k3s is younger than k8s, so can't be that old

[high remnant]

can’t argue with that logic

anyhow mom said i have to get off the pc

[stuck mortar]

You gotta hide it under the blanket and type super softly

[high remnant]

that’s what my uncle said

[wise snow]

I'm looking for a smart speaker or diy smart speaker solution for home assistant that actually has good speaker audio. I have yet to encounter a design that has reasonable speaker and amplification. from the reviews i've seen even the "premium" home assistant voice preview edition has a lackluster onboard speaker. I'm not looking for magic, just something that's similar to an amazon or google smart speaker without paying a ton of money... or heck, I guess even an esphome solution with a good amp and speaker would work (idk why everyone i've seen so far has used really poor ones)... anyone have any ideas?

[solar zealot]

taps the sign
There is no support here

[high remnant]

is the support in the room with you

[solar zealot]

#the-workshop id imagine could help with diy and #1284966353798697001 with hardware searches

[swift prism]

whoops sorry for not reading above literally as you said no support here

[solar zealot]

happens from time to time hehe

[primal laurel]

I heard there's support here

[high remnant]

i always print with supports

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-hartwell-white-sr-heisenberg-bryan-cranston-gif-16636350

[warm helm]

nu uhhh

[weak musk]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-blowfish-breaking-bad-gif-21948370

[stuck mortar]

<@&330946878646517761>

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze lemme guess you had gerbils for dinner tonight?

[ocean oar]

Is the like the Quail/Poussin equivalent to the cuy's "chicken"?

Do we need to find an even smaller rodent to be eaten whole as the ortolan in this metaphor?

[forest edge]

ai slop or not some of these were really good. https://youtu.be/WzodEFracDo?si=oz4SO21jkzG7PGGa

[primal laurel]

Unrelated

[minor bobcat]

You saying it's unrelated makes me think it's related. Damn you reverse psychology!

[primal laurel]

Related

[minor bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/ahhhh-ahhhh-ahhhh-simpsons-homer-yelling-ahhh-homer-simpons-homer-yelling-gif-15756831862711104797

He's in my head

[high remnant]

AI is such a fever dream

I am getting chatgpt mails from "security researchers"

[iron granite]

I get mails from people lacking natural intelligence.

[high remnant]

I am used to it

people still get pissy if my team demands a ticket number lol

[glacial knot]

that's an easy fix:
I don't work without a ticket. k, bye

[high remnant]

I do

and they do too

lol

[primal laurel]

I get emails.

[iron granite]

Ew.

[primal laurel]

Usually my face is more like

[boreal grove]

I got the lutron caseta diva kit. Since I got the lights working now my kids are going ham with just leaving the light on. Is there any small battery powered presence or motion sensor that works with HA that I can use so after like a minute of them leaving the room with the light on it turns off?

I think my mind is telling me I dont ever want it to turn the light on only off

[young sigil]

#1284966353798697001 with the recommendation tag. No support here.

[weak musk]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/10/arduino-retains-its-brand-and-mission-following-acquisition-by-qualcomm/

[static schooner]

I'll have to research why QC decided this was a useful thing to do. They tried getting into the whole DIY SBC thing 10-15 years ago and it went exactly nowhere. It was embarrassing

At the time it was an attempt to build a dev community around low cost Snapdragon chips and it kinda fell on its face

[dawn badge]

price point is gunna be a big thing I imagine.

[static schooner]

QC wanted to stay at arm's length from the users and push support to another company and getting help turned into a bureaucratic labyrinth

[scenic radish]

Wake up babe, new Technology Connections just dropped: https://youtu.be/ms8uu0zeU88

[marsh plaza]

https://www.youtube.com/live/KDxi3NG3nfUhttps://www.youtube.com/live/KDxi3NG3nfU

ya'll go here now lol

[solar zealot]

oh my

they are putting thngs together like they shouldnt

what is this espie

[high remnant]

https://iwillnotbuynitro.com/u/sandy-sane-male-arizonaalligatorlizard.png?ps 🥰 🥰

pls embed

:(

[marsh plaza]

https://github.com/seiggy/lucia-dotnet

[high remnant]

@young sigil

can’t mention mod on this bullshit ios app

[stuck mortar]

Hit space after typing at-mod then send

[high remnant]

i’m not going to test that

[primal laurel]

I use it all the time

[stuck mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/what-could-possibly-go-wrong-michael-che-saturday-night-live-sarcastic-bad-idea-gif-20998208

[high remnant]

getting shouted at by multiple people

but I already have that for work

[weak musk]

To quote you: get a better job

[warm helm]

Nothing

[high remnant]

i like the way it hurts

(i am also being dramatic, nobody is shouting at me)

(anymore)

[gusty belfry]

I deleted my old phone the wrong way on the map and now I don't show up at all

[glacial knot]

Who says that ain't their fetish?

[warm helm]

Where on the doll did they hurt you?

[high remnant]

the hole where m y heart used to be

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-sorry-gif-9638690

[gusty belfry]

[minor bobcat]

It's fun while it lasts, then you get laid off, you stop doing extra stuff and people start to notice 👀

[high remnant]

nahh my employment situation isnt toxic

the appreciate me

they pay me good enough

but its still work ;P

the only issue I have is that I have been inherented an IT-team while I need another type of team 🙃

[minor bobcat]

I guess it's good I'm gone at the and of the year then

[high remnant]

oh boy

[minor bobcat]

Yeah... wasn't on my bingo card lol

[high remnant]

sorry to hear that

[minor bobcat]

Ah no worries, but thanks

[glacial knot]

time to write the handover for the HA instance

[unborn merlin]

a p4? pretty simple. 😛

[solar zealot]

i will tell my kids this is the pi4

yes

:P

[gusty belfry]

Someone needs to cure me of my pathological need to turn everything into a dashboard gauge.

[young sigil]

And your colourblindness.

[forest edge]

no shit

https://tenor.com/view/my-eyes-my-eyesi-brick-person-human-performer-gif-14164476824641141200

[unborn merlin]

poorly balanced; smh.

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze get your prime shopping done?

[gusty belfry]

The panel hasn't been inspected since 1968
It's so small everything is a tandem breaker too.

[unborn merlin]

comically tiny.

[gusty belfry]

750w on neutral is fiiiine for 200 amp service

[unborn merlin]

astounded such an ancient house has even 200a

[gusty belfry]

Not a small house, and had radiant electric ceiling heat originally.

[static schooner]

I've heard of radiant floor and wall heating, but not ceiling

[forest edge]

shingles neeed warmth too you know

[static schooner]

seems like the warmth will get there naturally 🙂

[gusty belfry]

In 1968 electricity would solve all the world's problems

waste wasn't considered

[young sigil]

Also I prefer seeing a history as well as the current value. Sometimes trends are important. Gauges are no good for this.

[forest edge]

seeing a graph of current doesn't really seem as useful as setting up a sensor to monitor for potential faults or states

[young sigil]

I have that too.

What I'd really like to be able to do is send the graph in a notification when there is a fault detected.

[forest edge]

probably could using ai like gemini to generate a jpg graph from past recorded states

[unborn merlin]

... like what fault?

most proper PSU's will stop working/trying if theres a dead short..

[brisk glen]

idk what to think about this https://shop.m5stack.com/products/ai-8850-llm-accleration-m-2-module-ax8850

I went into the deep end of the internet again

[forest edge]

delivers it via anal huh

[dreamy pelican]

Any one know if you can use both a SONOFF Zigbee Bridge Pro Hub and SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus-E coordinator at the same time?

I have an area i cant string outlets to get signal to reach

[brisk glen]

confirmed chinese AI slop "2 × Gigabit Ethernet MAC"

[glacial knot]

Sounds like a question for a support channel
In general, yes. Specifics might be complicated

[forest edge]

you would have to put the SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus-E in router mode

but #1284966617670881350 for any further questions

[dreamy pelican]

That wont work for my setup

[forest edge]

well you can run two cordinators as long as they are both on diffrent channels

[dreamy pelican]

Both areas won’t overlap

[forest edge]

it would be two completely diffrent setups so if you are running like z2m or zha you would need an instance for both etc

[dreamy pelican]

Im currently using zha

Can you do 2 instances of it?

[forest edge]

again #1284966617670881350 or you'll awaken the angry people

[dreamy pelican]

Lol

[arctic quarry]

😠 DO I SMELL SUPPORT QUESTIONS

[dreamy pelican]

More asking if its possible

[glacial knot]

I even smell support answers

[arctic quarry]

yall deranged

no respect for the rules

[dreamy pelican]

You dont ask questions at the work water cooler

Odd

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/the-thick-of-it-malcolm-tucker-peter-capaldi-the-kraken-awakes-kraken-wakes-gif-4786876339575921738

[brisk glen]

I read that as deport questions....

no more reading at 2 am for me

[young sigil]

Over/under volts/current

[high remnant]

https://youtu.be/AmPN8MPw2dk?t=267 🎶 I wont wat you tell me 🎶

[solar zealot]

I can recommend using the shelly app

they sent me a 20% discount for having more than 10 items already

[high remnant]

imagine not using HA for everything

[solar zealot]

HA doesnt give me discount codes

[iron granite]

I'll grant you a 20% discount on the next HA Core update 2025.11

[high remnant]

its free!

[solar zealot]

🦭

the seal has been dealt

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-im-out-byee-ok-gif-15304701432226785572

[arctic quarry]

I'll just say this: That seal doesn't look to be in a particularly approving mood

in fact, I feel slightly judged by its aloof stare

[primal laurel]

It's a free house! Just for you Jim!

[high remnant]

mine is already paid for

mostly

[solar zealot]

Keep up the good work, I got one you can pay for afterwards

[primal laurel]

Can't get a mortgage anyway with these kind of prices. Either you have money already, or your parents do. Everybody else is screwed

[high remnant]

truu

[high remnant]

I was lucky

that is just about it really

[glacial knot]

Speak for yourself

[tidal bronze]

Spotty coverage up here.

[minor bobcat]

Same same, but different

[peak slate]

Actually it's pretty good coverage up there

Still surprised we got cell coverage, and a phone call at the top

[tidal bronze]

4G shows up but barely any data.

[peak slate]

If you get a chance, do the Wayna Picchu hike too

It's an amazing view at the top

[tidal bronze]

Aguas calientes somewhat ok.

[tidal bronze]

Not into hiking, but that's what I heard.

[peak slate]

It's just like a few hundred incan stairs

[tidal bronze]

Lol, Incan stairs.

[peak slate]

Easy peasy you know

[vast lily]

what do you all like for install methods these days? my past installs have all been docker, i am debating do HA OS this time. on the fence

[scenic radish]

HA Container 4 lyfe

[iron granite]

HAOS

[vast lily]

i was this for sure

but looking back, it never really matterd as i only ran HA on the thing in the end anyways

[scenic radish]

fite me irl

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/water-spray-stop-sprinkle-water-gif-11895255

[scenic radish]

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-water-cute-cat-shower-cat-gif-27550509

[static schooner]

No raccoon4me

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wrestling-cat-choking-cats-fighting-cat-meme-gif-4366151393057216025

[restive zephyr]

oof

[dusty mica]

hothothot

[restive zephyr]

whole package was scuffed too

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-eyes-steve-buscemi-big-eyes-gif-11491116276663604660

[knotty marsh]

is nabu casa down?

hm...

no

just weirdly unable to connect.. this is a me issue then

and now it worked...

ok just ignore me

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/sacha-baron-cohen-great-success-yay-gif-4185058

[tidal bronze]

Came across a lot of these.

[solar zealot]

You should visit Germany

If you still get H you can call yourself lucky

We have other fun displays like E and 'no service available'

[high remnant]

😂😂😂😂

i can roam in germany but still have spotty coverage

[solar zealot]

Luckily German mobile services are not just shitty, they also are expensive

[high remnant]

blessed to not be a german

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-a-little-german-sprechen-sie-deutsch-sprechen-sitting-over-there-top-secret-gif-16743806

[high remnant]

nice beaver

[iron granite]

Oh, I have that one on speed dial as well.

[high remnant]

😂😂😂

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-beaver-naked-gun-stuffed-beaver-leslie-nielsen-frank-drebin-gif-6370297634400891100

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/airplane-movie-airplane-movie-gif-18375766920052603405

[static schooner]

Hey, we're gonna need some of those soon

[high remnant]

blow up dolls?

also boots is out :D

[weak musk]

Pilots.

[fallow galleon]

stupid light switch keeps turning on by itself all day

turned it off remotely and it switched back on

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/it-was-the-aliens-im-not-saying-it-was-aliens-ancient-aliens-gif-14839810013080040984

[static schooner]

And blow up air traffic controllers

[ocean oar]

Actually I've changed my mind

https://tenor.com/view/flying-high-gif-20311531

[forest edge]

new location for the next Transformers movie?

[scenic radish]

What's the largest pcap file everyone's ever created? I started sniffing my zigbee network traffic since Monday night to hopefully help diagnose an issue with a specific sensor, and the file is currently 237 MB lol

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-alert-bumper-adam-devine-pitch-perfect-lame-gif-17474980

[static schooner]

gets out the ruler again

[tidal bronze]

No idea. But I am starting like potatoes.

[forest edge]

um

pretty sure you had a translation mishap

[weak musk]

that looks good

[forest edge]

Hey Google, what am I eating?

Bat droppings

[tidal bronze]

Andean potatoes. Made me a believer