the-water-cooler

[unborn merlin]

yeah. that's entirely doable

[lavish badger]

Basically the space on those two timers, but two entirely seperate circuits since it's two pumps.

I wouldn't even mind if the Wifi control part were outside the box.

[unborn merlin]

https://spadepot.com/products/spa-contactor-dpst-120v-50a-bx9434

These things aren't hard to find..

and.. yeah it'd probably sorta have to be usually.. hard metal cases aren't well known for y'know

[lavish badger]

That'd do it.

[unborn merlin]

... wifi signals

[lavish badger]

I have a wifi light switch in there, somehow it does...OK

But optimally...yeah

That'd handle the pump load for sure

And then I'd need a 120v Wifi relay to trip it, looks like.

Which is easy.

[unborn merlin]

a shelly or something is my opinion.. 😛

[lavish badger]

That was one suggestion I read.

[unborn merlin]

reminds me I still want to put a current clamp of some sort on my new heat pump..

[lavish badger]

How come?

[unborn merlin]

🤷‍♂️ curiosity on how efficient it runs

[lavish badger]

Newer heat pumps are insanely efficient from what I've read.

[unborn merlin]

its not a ground source unfortunately.. but yes

thing barely needed to spool up to chill this attic

but hey such is a properly sized goddamn unit

[lavish badger]

I should consider a heat pump here given our climate...but gas heat is so damned cheap

Even though we barely need it.

[unborn merlin]

if I had a chance to go ground source.. it'd be even stupider. 😛

then its just

https://tenor.com/view/its-free-real-sate-gif-7215175

[lavish badger]

Next year I really should swap out my AC units

They're old, R22 and just gulp power.

[unborn merlin]

lul

[lavish badger]

Like...my power bill for July was nearly a grand.

[unborn merlin]

you can thank openai and fellow slop companies. 😉

as the power producers are more than happy to pass that cost to you

[scenic radish]

dafuq

[lavish badger]

Arizona...it's like...$150 in winters.

[scenic radish]

jesus, that seems high in the winter too

[primal laurel]

get reversible AC. Or in other words, a heat pump. Then you can both heat and cool with the same appliance

[scenic radish]

electric bill from last month (Chicago, US) was 210 USD

[unborn merlin]

yes thats the point these days..

if you're doing anything more than installing a simple window unit.. (which you can also get heat pumps of these days..) you'd be an idiot to go AC-only instead of heatpump.

[primal laurel]

last year the AC used about 1000 kWh, or about 200 euro. That supplied all heating and all cooling

[forest edge]

you have multiple units?

[primal laurel]

everyone pays the same price per kWh regardless of who produced or consumed what amount. The price is set by whatever generator produces the last kWh

[unborn merlin]

you're adorably naive

[primal laurel]

no this is how it works

[unborn merlin]

https://nypost.com/2025/08/18/us-news/how-ai-data-centers-lead-to-big-electric-bills-in-ny-and-nj/

No; it really isn't

its how it should work

but its not how it actually works

[primal laurel]

this article just confirms what I said

[lavish badger]

Two units, both R22, and my house is 3,000 sq feet with I think 12 foot ceilings.

Not exactly the model of efficiency.

[forest edge]

lol that is why

[unborn merlin]

except in most states theres also not a separate "you made us build more infrastructure to support your bullshit" charge

which they also get to just heft onto all consumers

isntead of just y'know.

The ai parasites

[lavish badger]

Here we just let Intel and TSMC use all our power

I'm sure there's some AI

Admittedly, my pool pump idea was sort of about saving power...right now the pumps just run when power is cheapest, 11 PM - 5 AM...but at least one day a week when I go out there and drop in chemicals, clean the filters, etc, I need it to run for like 2 hours during the day

So if I just had an HA button "clean pool" that ran it for two hours that'd be great. Otherwise I forget.

[unborn merlin]

its gonna be funny when the ai bubble eventually bursts and then.. the costs stay the same

[primal laurel]

at the high voltage level it can take decades to build infrastructure. It is planned many years ahead. Here in NL it is not the datacenters which are causing problems, it's the grid batteries

[unborn merlin]

because thats just how things work these days..

[lavish badger]

Well of course, corp profits can never go DOWN

That's how shareholders have to cut back.

[lavish badger]

Aren't the batteries just storage? Store power on low peak, and generate power at high demand?

[primal laurel]

storage that claims grid bandwith yes

[lavish badger]

But if overall demand is lower, that's unused grid capacity.

Unless the designers are idiots.

[primal laurel]

when you buy capacity, you 'get' a certain bandwidth. It is not specified how and when you can use that bandwidth

[forest edge]

these ai farms explain why I have been seeing an icnrease of solar farms wanting to build on my farm

[primal laurel]

agrivoltaics

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/electricity-prod-source-stacked?time=2000..latest&facet=metric

pretty insane growth

[unborn merlin]

yes its almost like humanity really wants to end itself. /s

whats that? we really should be working in the last decade to use less power?

NAH! keep making new bullshit that uses hilarious amounts of power for techbros to use! /s

[grizzled gull]

Happy Tuesday

[arctic quarry]

Bitcoin and NFTs are not enough! MORE!!!
— all of them

[unborn merlin]

its going to be both hilarious (and cataclysmic) tot he USA economy when the AI bubble explodes.

followed by.. "Oh right we spent the last 5-10 years making people morons who are dependent upon slop to do things.. what now?"

[lavish badger]

AI is a mixed bag for me.

Like..I'm fine writing my own scripts and code.

[scenic radish]

i'm so tired of hearing about AI

[lavish badger]

But AI generally can get me started from scratch faster.

So I don't feel bad using it for that.

[arctic quarry]

the 5D chess question: WHAT will all those terahyperflops of compute be used for?

[primal laurel]

ASML just invested 1.5B into mistral. That tells me all I need to know about the future of AI. This is not going away any time soon

[unborn merlin]

careful or jensen is gonna bring his leather jacket and beat your ass.

[warm helm]

You will take this AI and like it

[static schooner]

It did a pretty good job writing some ARM assembly code from scratch that I needed

[unborn merlin]

ASML is basically the one behind all of chip manufacturing rightnow they can do literally whatever the fuck they want with their money.

[primal laurel]

you dont have to tell me, I live cycling distance from their headquarters haha

in fact I was there just a few weeks ago

[static schooner]

Those machines are pure voodoo

[primal laurel]

they literally hire half the EEs graduating from TUe

[unborn merlin]

and the other half probably work for their subsidiaries

[forest edge]

ai fatigue huh

i am tired of still finding new products that practice shrinkflation

[lavish badger]

Isn't that all products?

[forest edge]

most but not all, not quite yet

[unborn merlin]

communist.

bend over and take it up the ass like any other american.

🙃

its freedom for companies to pull that after all!

[forest edge]

it's not just an american thing

[primal laurel]

true

unilever are assholes

[static schooner]

What if I want more than one lever? I'm being oppressed

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/repressed-oppressed-oppression-peasant-police-gif-22437101

[unborn merlin]

too bad; and they're not a monopoly because reasons.

[primal laurel]

HA

[static schooner]

Team MultiLever FTW

[primal laurel]

multivariate lever

[last cedar]

Mood tbh

My friend was explaining how great chatgpt was at helping him configure opnsense, apart from when it gave methods that worked in the old versions only

So I was like, oh, basically like reading the out of date manual

[scenic radish]

yikes

[last cedar]

I really don't see the need to ai everything

[static schooner]

using the internet to do live configuration of your router seems fraught with danger

[forest edge]

does the same thing for HA unless you specify the verion number lol

[static schooner]

uh oh, completely lost connectivity...

[last cedar]

It really does have its place though in some workloads, obviously though

[last cedar]

Can't hear chatgpt talking over the sound of you screaming

https://tenor.com/view/omg-scream-noo-screaming-ahhh-gif-15099123

Like this

[twilit venture]

That gif is giving me anxiety

[unborn merlin]

see keep saying this and thats how the automatons become reality; to hunt down people who dare speak against slop comapnies. /s

[primal laurel]

you still gotta think for yourself. I've tried to let claude 4 generate the structure of a project, but it doesn't understand the context. It always generates stuff that technically works but is way too complicated

[grizzled gull]

Has anyone used the Bosch/Siemens integration baked in integration? I had a chuckle when enabling it because it had a warning pop up that say its more complicated then other integrations... took 2 minutes

[lyric sphinx]

Howdy!

I'm referring to https://community.home-assistant.io/t/set-or-customize-ntp-source/71541/4

But systemd folder is not present under /etc

[scenic radish]

the SSH add-on doesn't access the root filesystem. #1284966540617449515 for more assistance

[primal laurel]

if you really want to see a banger. Weapons (the movie) is on YTS

[lyric sphinx]

I also tried through CLI directly. The cat command is not recognised

[scenic radish]

make a post in #1284966540617449515

[grizzled gull]

Do you have raccoon problems?

[lyric sphinx]

What's that?

I don't think so. Just wanted to point to metas.ch

[static schooner]

#1284966540617449515

[silent dove]

The topic of this channel is:

There’s no support here - only chill. Come in, grab a drink, chat with your fellow community members! This is a space to talk to other smart home enthusiasts. If you’re "just asking a question", you're asking for support. Head to https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284968640189304913 to help you find where you should post your question. No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

[ocean oar]

I've made you a handy flowchart that should explain "Raccoon problems"

[lyric sphinx]

done
#1415086008848089139 message

[primal laurel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ2MtTvpzp4

decided to cycle to work today, just had to cross a little bit of woods

[lavish badger]

Alright this seems like the cleanest method...and if I use a Shelly Pro 3, I can control the lights on the pool too with the third 120v channel.

Well, I should check the current rating on the pool bulb first but it should be fairly low.

[tidal bronze]

That kinda Tuesday!

[lavish badger]

Egg.

[stuck mortar]

Why does it feel like your screenshot is at half brightness

Is your pool pump siphoning too much power from the screen capture?

[lavish badger]

It does look dim, I've noticed that, I need to see what's happening there

[ocean oar]

Gonna say at 16A/channel you probably don't need to worry about it. If you've got 1.9kW of pool lights I'm going to be more impressed than I am mad

[lavish badger]

LOL no, just a single multicolor light. A few hundred watts at most.

[primal laurel]

that camera island looks like a fridge magnet. God that's fugly

[ocean oar]

Even the hardcore apple fans are mad about that one, it seems

The pro got beaten with the ugly stick, no-one can figure out who the air is exactly for, but people seem to like the regular one

Pretty sure one out of three ain't bad isn't the title of the Meatloaf song, but it is what it is

[primal laurel]

not only does that island stick out. The cameras protrude beyond that

[lavish badger]

Why is it so big? Stop making the phone so thin,

[scenic radish]

Steve Jobs just turned over in his grave

[lavish badger]

That's why I still have a basic iPhone 12 Pro...it doesn't have the giant camera bump.

I do need a new phone, though.

The base 17 will do fine.

[robust flicker]

smirks in Pixel camera

[lavish badger]

Are they all USB-C now so I no longer need lightning cables?

Yah, yes. Yes they are.

[weak musk]

The air looks great but I don’t need a phone that thin, and I don’t want a camera that basic.

[forest edge]

cooking seaweed with charcoal or wood epllets will not improve it's flavor

[lavish badger]

And...for some reason Apple needs to verify my tmobile account to finance it through my Apple card? Why?

The financing has ZERO to do with my carrier.

[weak musk]

It shouldn’t.

[lavish badger]

Yet it do.

Can't continue without putting in my number and pin...if I outright buy it, they skip step 2

[forest edge]

you bought an apple phone?

[lavish badger]

Always have.

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-gif-3944837017366223108

[weak musk]

You can’t get a non carrier locked

[lavish badger]

It says it's carrier unlocked....

So...yeah, it ain't that

[weak musk]

wtf

[lavish badger]

I wonder if I do it from my actual phone if it'll bypass it.

[weak musk]

I just tried in the Apple Store app. You don’t get prompted if you pick “connect with any carrier later”

[lavish badger]

With Apple Card financing?

[weak musk]

Yes

[lavish badger]

Alright, let me try that.

Website could just be dumb.

[weak musk]

I tried it with T-Mobile and Verizon for kicks

[lavish badger]

Nope, still needs a carrier

[scenic radish]

Dafuq

[weak musk]

https://tenor.com/view/jamartag-i-dont-believe-you-gif-24820080

[tidal bronze]

You wish you could taste these Mediterranean lamb loin chops with berbere seasoning

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/achoo-larry-sneeze-three-stooges-gif-12069165

[lavish badger]

They do look good, I made something very close the other night

I usually do a lot of cumin, goes well with lamb.

Cumin and garlic

[tidal bronze]

After spending a week down in middle earth, now I know why I never leave the airport or the lounge.

[forest edge]

much scarier when you can see farther than 10ft ahead of you in cleaner air isn't it?

[tidal bronze]

Pink shorts and flowery Ts is not a thing?

[forest edge]

lol you get threats for your fashion choices?

[tidal bronze]

Pastel colors, specially baby blue. 😆

[forest edge]

makes more sense, I keep telling you that your ideals and beliefs pretty much stop at your states border lol

maybe now you will believe others who try and help you

[tidal bronze]

Now I know what Mars Rover felt up in Mars.

[forest edge]

the being alone or the sticking out like a sore thumb part?

[tidal bronze]

One thing for sure, your grass fed and finished premium cuts are 100% ends up in NY and CA. No chance the beef they serve is edible.

[forest edge]

I don't think OK is known for having cattle lol

thats like a driveby state

[static schooner]

ah, so there's a pecking order amongst the flyover states

some are "drive by" 🙂

[forest edge]

if you count flyover from chicago to dallas.. I guess

i would call it more of a drive by than fly over

arkansas is pretty much the same but they got much better scenery

[static schooner]

gotta see the giant ball of yarn or some other nonsense 🙂

big butter cow

[forest edge]

there is nothing in ok to see

thankfully it's a thin state

-# but still bigger than some of these kids countries up in here haha

[tidal bronze]

There is.

[static schooner]

I still remember "Okies" as a derogatory term from the Grapes of Wrath

[forest edge]

you drove?

[static schooner]

a place to flee from on your way to California

[forest edge]

I wouldn't even retire in ok

state is bad juju

[tidal bronze]

Drove to the "beach"

[static schooner]

not even if someone offered you $10K?

[forest edge]

pretty sure that's some kind of septic holding area.. hope you showered after you took your swim

[forest edge]

I haven't seen a limousine in a very long time. are those things still a thing?

[ocean oar]

Only time I see them are mildly gross "party bus" style vehicles used for bachelor parties and other similar heavy drinking events

This is one (possibly, the only) local company. These vehicles are serving only a certain kind of clientele, methinks

[lavish badger]

Idiots?

[tidal bronze]

How do call this a beach?

[static schooner]

Not one of them has a hot tub. And "dance floor"?

break dancing, maybe

[forest edge]

I didn't. you did

[atomic delta]

It begins

[tidal bronze]

That looks interesting, something new?

[atomic delta]

Yeah, just got a litter robot 4.

Hopefully it lives up to the hype.

[ocean oar]

How many cats do you have?

[scenic radish]

Yes

[atomic delta]

Three.

[ocean oar]

Should be great then

We've had a LR3 for about 5 years now, with 2 cats

Almost never had an issue with them getting angry about a dirty litterbox, which is the greatest thing

[static schooner]

Get the litter hopper too. It's great to keep the litter topped off without wasting litter if you overfill

Especially since you have multicats

I thought it was extravagant and unnecessary, but I like it a lot

[atomic delta]

Oh, I did.

[static schooner]

I kinda want to swap my 3 with another 4, but I haven't convinced myself to pull the trigger

[atomic delta]

I got the Costco bundle for the LR4 and bought the hopper from them directly.

Though they have some combo deals on the LR site right now.

[static schooner]

Yeah, I didn't think to look at Costco

The hopper came out after I bought my last LR4

[atomic delta]

Mostly bought it for my dad, since he's the one who handles the litter normally and he's turning 80 in February...

[forest edge]

don't. wait till the 5 and swap it with that

[static schooner]

I think we're a ways away from that

[forest edge]

few years but right now LR3 parts are still available and relatively cheap which won't be the case once the LR5 drops. parts for older units will dry up quicker with the LR3 than the LR2 since more people bought the 3 vs the 2

[static schooner]

Even with the 3, it quickly told me that my cat's usage had shot up over a couple of days and helped me treat her UTI quickly. The vet loved the usage chart

Second time these LRs have helped detect a problem that warranted a vet visit

[forest edge]

what in the back wood tarnation is this install of haos on a normal x86?

live cd, restore disk image? I feel like I need to hunt around for my 5 and quarter floppy disk

[iron granite]

What are floppy disks? Don't you use the trusty datasette?

[forest edge]

I have never seen one of those here. don't think those really took traction

seen the bigger tape stuff just not the cassette like the old music cassette style for data

[ocean oar]

The sounds of a modem, on tape 🙂

[forest edge]

I don't remember ever getting impatient with dial up but know I would absolutely hate waiting for it now

[robust flicker]

Meanwhile, I would get impatient with zmodem file transfers from BBSs. When I upgraded from a 2400bd to a 14.4k modem, I was still impatient. When I had 128k ISDN I was still impatient. I don't like wasting time waiting for things to finish. My time is more valuable to me than that.

I've been dialing into other computers since the 1980s, and it was never fast enough for file transfers. No matter how much speeds improve, file sizes increase right alongside them, making speed increases simply maintaining the time spent downloading...

[forest edge]

computers and the internet was nothing more than a hobby for me back then. gaming lead to clans that lead to getting into website creatin and graphic design but nothing serious enough for me to wait around for hours for something to upload or download lol

heck I remember the first time I saw internet porn. was at cousin's house and he was showing me some bulletin board thing on pony express and clicked a link to an image and as that sucker loaded in a few lines at a time I got bored about halfway through. think I may have seen a nipple before leaving to go do something else heh

[robust flicker]

The funniest thing to me will always be the old R and X rated bbs door games and their ASCII text nip pics. I still laugh about it.

[robust flicker]

Has anyone in here played with USB-IP and managed to "offload" their USB coordinators to another Linux box?

[static schooner]

No real need to do that. Just run the coordinator server on another device and connect to it. #1284966617670881350

[robust flicker]

Hmmm. Just spit balling ideas here to move my install off proxmox to Bhyve, since bhyve can't pass through individual USB devices, only the whole USB controller.

[arctic quarry]

my first foray into BBS was when 2400 was the lay of the land, and we leeched Elite 2 from some guy two area codes away (so, costly). It took CLOSE TO AN HOUR which was like incomprehensibly cool for a couple 13 year olds

[robust flicker]

I had a small IniquityBBS-based (a fork of Renegade BBS) board up myself for a few years.

[last cedar]

[fickle delta]

How often do you have dreams that you feel you are reasoning with yourself that it is not real, verifying fact like where you live, etc. while still sleeping to make sure it is not real?

[weak musk]

0%

maybe seek therapy

[scenic radish]

I have lucid dreams every once in a while

[forest edge]

are there big neon signs lit up stating "this is a dream"?

[scenic radish]

It's kind of weird actually. I'll randomly realize that something doesn't make sense and then realize I'm dreaming, and then I can control what's going on

super rare though. I've only had it happen like maybe 3 or 4 times in my entire life

[forest edge]

then you realize you are in the middle of the DMV holding a chair and it wasn't really a dream at all?

[scenic radish]

https://tenor.com/view/mean-girls-annoyed-one-time-gif-12407140

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-chair-smash-window-rage-tantrum-wreck-gif-11841488

[peak slate]

It's better than realizing you're in a dream and trying to do something but then the dream fights back and forces you into it's narrative

[forest edge]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-13-2015/FGQa6J.gif

[arctic quarry]

ayy robot chikin

been a hot minute

[forest edge]

this is the usps route for an item i bought off ebay from NC to KC. I am just a little north of KC and the item hasn't reached here yet but it shipped from NC to KC on the 7th and the last step was today the 10th

[cinder axle]

Am I the only one having issues with the Shark IQ integration? Worked for a while, now doesn't...

[static schooner]

#1284966582375813201

[cinder axle]

Yeah I posted there almost a week ago with no response...

[static schooner]

please stay there, this isn't an escalation channel

feel free to bump it, and maybe you're the only one

[unborn merlin]

Welcome to..

open source projects

[cinder axle]

Gotcha... not trying to escalate, just wondering aloud

[unborn merlin]

there will not always be someone who knows why or how to fix.. 🙃

also.. god fucking dammit discord adding the extra bit of space below the chat window and the message entry box is throwing me off.. this UX is trash

[cinder axle]

Probably not the place for this either, but I am actually a developer by trade... I'm willing to at least try to get some better logging in place, if there was any advice on how to develop on an integration

[last cedar]

Can you teach me how, I won't have to ask the girl out who I really like if I can manage this

It is either that or an AI girlfriend

[unborn merlin]

https://github.com/home-assistant/core/tree/dev/homeassistant/components/sharkiq

Its open

touch it? 🙃

judging by the updatae 5 days ago.. looks like sharkiq changed auth somehow.

And if that update hasn't gotten down to you get.. then there's your probable reason.

[cinder axle]

Oh hey look... I looked for something like that a week ago and didn't find it. Thanks! My guess is that this is probably exactly what I'm looking for.

[unborn merlin]

well yes.. 7 > 5

so probably be in the next HA update.. or you could manually put files in places probably.

[lavish badger]

Bah why does the Shelly 2 din mount cost like twice as much as the non?

It's either pay more and it looks good, or be cheap and it looks like crap.

[stuck mortar]

I didn’t notice until you brought it up 😠

[warm helm]

Is it bed time?

[tidal bronze]

Although, thing's here escalate pretty quickly 😆

[unborn merlin]

their way of saying get a 3d printer, sir

[lavish badger]

I have one lol. I suppose I could make a DIN mount for it...

Someone has to have done this already

Oh. Nice they have.

[unborn merlin]

duh. 😛

[lavish badger]

I think the shelly plus 2PM is easier to deal with anyhow.

More simple wiring.

[unborn merlin]

🤷‍♂️

[scenic radish]

What is PID 1 in Britain?

|| innit ||

[midnight adder]

@iron granite Been a long time

Are you still grouchy

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/amazing-sarcasm-ok-cool-clap-gif-16214875

[lone dagger]

One day he'll finally get bored.

[scenic radish]

just came across this: https://github.com/HamzaETTH/SengledTools

someone near me on facebook marketplace was selling 11 Sengled lights for $5 and I saw that they should be possible to convert to tasmota/esphome with this tool, so I figured why not buy them

they are indeed convertible, so I will shortly have 11 more tasmota RGBW lights 🤣

just successfully converted 2

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge we missed you at the birthday party 🎂

[forest edge]

you forgot most homeless, most wild fires, most floods, most crime, most fleeing citizens, most smog. and labeling your inediable food as food was just down right wrong

[tidal bronze]

It's hard to be homeless in the Midwest and North East. We feel for ya. Bus them here all day. We love ❤️ them all the same. At 71f all year, sidewalk ain't that bad!

[forest edge]

Bus them there? they are ALL already there lmao

[unborn merlin]

is the fox news addict still going on?

Shouldn't you be weeping for kirk? 😄

wrong worid oops.

meant cultist

[tidal bronze]

Exactly! Any who you missed that bomb kale appetizer

[forest edge]

I bet it did bomb lol

https://tenor.com/view/mini-parks-spit-it-ew-gross-gif-15571443

[tidal bronze]

Everyone was looking for you.

[forest edge]

did you let them know I wasn't going to leave paradise for the slums?

[tidal bronze]

Lmao. I saw "paradise" 1st hand. I don't think that's their jam

[forest edge]

is this more their "jam"?

https://tenor.com/view/nacho-libre-jack-black-running-scared-hell-no-hell-to-the-no-gif-12649205060744340266

[midnight tundra]

you ever figure this out

[tidal bronze]

Sorry no, Gave up on TV sometime ago.

[forest edge]

-# local news too depressing for him

[solar zealot]

No thanks

<@&330946878646517761>

[glacial knot]

Yea, TV wasn't part of that Cali af QF posted earlier

[forest edge]

one thing they added to the ubiquiti camera stuff that I like is that trip line that can tell you which direction an object was heading that crossed it

be neat if frigate had something that simple. I know you could probably achieve the same effect using zones but still

[nocturne orchid]

whats the best way to get solar forecasts with 3 different solar pannel areas which all have different headings angles and rotations?

[iron granite]

#1284966203026182206 might know.

[scenic radish]

Anyone else suddenly find themselves in New Zealand to download Borderlands 4 early?

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/gimli-gimli-yes-lotr-fellowship-the-fellowship-of-the-ring-gif-12953783719288498492

[solar zealot]

Is there a way to download it late?

[scenic radish]

[robust flicker]

So one of my coworkers, older lady, even older than me, told me to have a good day as I was walking out of the office. I told her no. When she gave me a confused look, I added "You can't tell me what to do, you aren't my real mom!" and I thought she was gonna die of laughter. 🤣💀

[warm helm]

Enjoy your next 24 hours.

https://tenor.com/view/abbott-elementary-curse-hex-voodoo-a-curse-on-you-gif-25714369

[solar zealot]

Tbh I totally forgot that it's out and now I want to play it besides knowing the thing I tried was bad

[sharp quarry]

hello!

[primal laurel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th-OAfQ5FJk

https://tenor.com/view/got-him-we-got-him-gif-9688653711459820082

[solar zealot]

tldw?

[primal laurel]

on a recorded call with a customer some corpo said they didn't want to comply with a right to repair law because that means they would sell less products

corpo sued rossman, rossman said fuck off, then lawyers dropped the case the next day

[lavish badger]

Too fucking bad?

[stuck mortar]

<@&330946878646517761>

[iron granite]

Gone.

[stuck mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/im-doing-my-part-serious-stare-gif-11979677

This channel will be very conflicted if a raccoon-themed crypto scam comes up

[ocean oar]

That 1 minute follow up video where he's barely containing his laughter is certainly one for the ages

Nothing says "baseless legal threats" quite like being fired by your lawyers

[scenic radish]

truly one of the videos of all time

[lavish badger]

Rossman does not take shit from anyone

[arctic quarry]

I found a genuinely good use case for Github Copilot: Making workspace-specific color themes so I can tell them apart

[scenic radish]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-believe-you-whatever-lies-gif-3602502

[forest edge]

why are zigbee devices so bad about battery reporting?

[weak musk]

Most battery devices are terrible with that

[forest edge]

i'll have some show like 100% for a year or more than maybe i'll see like 20% lol

rather have something that just spat off a final message of distress than fail monitor the battery state

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/alive-dead-im-not-dead-yet-gif-13642579

[primal laurel]

Not a zigbee problem. Do you want the EE answer?

[scenic radish]

Measure voltage hard when not under load

Idk actually

[atomic delta]

I mean, that's decently accurate.

[forest edge]

never said it was a zigbee problem. just said why do zigbee devices do that lol

[ocean oar]

I've got a great suggestion of how you can make it even worse 😆
Swap those probably Li-MnO2 batteries for Li-SOCl2 ones like in my LoRa stuff.
At sub-milliamp draw, zero voltage drop for ≥80% of the battery's lifespan

Try measuring that and using it to estimate capacity

[forest edge]

I have a few 433mhz weather sensors that report battery percentages and they seem fairly accurate

[primal laurel]

Every device does that. So does my bluetooth stuff

[forest edge]

reports full battery till it's practically dead? i don't have devices aside from zigbee ones that do that

[primal laurel]

Phones and laptops and stuff dont measure only voltage, they measure energy used

[scenic radish]

ah that makes sense

[ocean oar]

What kind of batteries though?

[forest edge]

i don't expect accurate reading from the ones I put lithium in lol

[ocean oar]

Here's the similar discharge chart for a CR2032 Li-MnO2. In which again the low-discharge problem becomes evident:

[forest edge]

realistically zigbee devices that can only take coin batteries which are all lithium the battery monitoring should be designed for that

[primal laurel]

Try putting one in a fridge

[ocean oar]

Heh, I tried that at my last job. Back in the era when Intel NUC PCs came with a noise-maker in the box that played the Intel jingle when you opened it (like an electronic greeting card). Took one out and put it in the beer fridge 😄

The battery gave up after only about a week though 🙁

[scenic radish]

why'd you put the NUC in the fridge?

|| /s ||

[ocean oar]

You hate to think the time and money that was invested in doing this:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/anhIPABHTQI

[forest edge]

heh you know I think they did that with some of the older pentium cpu boxes as well

i vaguely remember opening a cpu box that had some kind of sound that jingled

[ocean oar]

Would have been around the 3rd-5th gen Core CPUs, so early 2010s

Makes sense they'd have stuffed those into everything

[tidal bronze]

2 hours without HA, I thought world ended. Too dependent on this stuff.

[forest edge]

oh no did you have to do something manually? something that requires you to touch things?

or did you just sit in the dark till someone came and turned a light on for you?

[tidal bronze]

Sucks to feel helpless.

[forest edge]

did your wife roll her eyes when she had to come flip on the light switch for you after you found yourself going into a room with no windows and closing the door before realizing the light didn't come on?

"help me! i'm in the dark and don't know what to do!"

[tidal bronze]

Started with a text, bathroom lights won't turn on. Downhill from there

[forest edge]

"Honey i am on the toilet and can't see the toilet paper! call 911"

[lavish badger]

See this is why I refuse to put smart lighting in a bathroom 😛

[forest edge]

why I refuse to put smart lighting anywhere without a manual switch

[lavish badger]

I mean that won't save you.

I've had switches that were unresponsive.

[forest edge]

mechanical switches rarely go bad

[lavish badger]

Right but how are they smart but also mechanical

Are there smart switches that don't use a relay inside and actually move a physical toggle switch?

[forest edge]

never seen a 2 way switch

[lavish badger]

Not like that.

[forest edge]

i guess they are called 3 way

[lavish badger]

Sounds like they're a 3way inside a single switch enclosure.

[forest edge]

3 way is always confusing when refering to two switches

[lavish badger]

I always think of a 3 way as a X

[tidal bronze]

As you know I don't have a single smart bulb. But locating switches when you don't use it for years is not fun.

[forest edge]

finding the wall is hard huh?

[weak musk]

this ALWAYS happens when my wife is home alone and I'm traveling for work

[lavish badger]

I have a HA button that unsmartifies the house when I'm not going to be there lol

Turns off any automations, makes everything as dumb as possible.

Last time I left with my mother in law watching the dog, when automations kicked in she went around and turned off everything manually in my house. Unplugged lamps, unscrewed light bulbs...

[weak musk]

this causes the same problem QF is describing

[tidal bronze]

Luckily I was landing when this happened. ESXI didn't wanna boot. That was fun.

NUC fan died. 😅 Fun times.

[weak musk]

oooofff

at least that's a simple fix

[forest edge]

after only 2 years?

[weak musk]

better than the drive going honestly

[tidal bronze]

Luckily I always have 2 or 3 of each.

[forest edge]

fanless design ftw

[tidal bronze]

This fan was not avocado friendly

[forest edge]

your wife uses the nuc as a cutting board?

[tidal bronze]

She is not the kitchen type. That would be me.

[weak musk]

https://tenor.com/view/onion-dice-cut-splice-appliance-gif-14205726

[forest edge]

how do you not have like 3 redundancies in place for such an event?

[tidal bronze]

I usually buy 2 or 3 of each for cases like this.

[forest edge]

as much as you go on about how important it is for you to not have to do anything.. would have thought the baking in from the get go fallbacks would be a no brainer

well machines sitting in the closet don't count lol

[tidal bronze]

Too lazy to move zwave to poe.

One of these days.

[forest edge]

the hub to poe?

if it's a power cyclking issue, why not just put it on a smart outlet lol

[tidal bronze]

Power cycling?

[forest edge]

i don't get the zwave to poe comment

explain that a little better

[weak musk]

real talk: do you guys pronounce it "PEE OH EE" or "PO"

[forest edge]

the first

[lavish badger]

First

[forest edge]

why would you leave off the e?

[weak musk]

OK good, someone I talked to yesterday called it "PO" and I was like with the heck are you talking about

[forest edge]

it's an acronym not a word

[lavish badger]

Bah. Printed that DIN adapter for the Shelly, and it just came apart when I took the raft off

Guess we're going no raft.

Maybe I should just go 100% infill for something like that

[weak musk]

I felt insane for a minute

[tidal bronze]

HA runs on VM but zw is plugged in USB. I can fire up HA in any ESXI server at the house but moving USB and reassignment is a headache. So future plan is run everything separate.

[weak musk]

but then you have to have redundant Zwave servers

when will it end!?

[tidal bronze]

It will not.

I have always thought about.

[weak musk]

it won't end or it won't have redundancy in that way

[tidal bronze]

Best case, shit is half baked. Far from production however you cut it.

[forest edge]

tubeszb has a poe zwave

[tidal bronze]

Have it.

[forest edge]

didn't you just say it was usb?

[tidal bronze]

Having it and running it is 2 different things.

[forest edge]

man taslking to cali's is confusing sometimes lol

[weak musk]

I kept up.

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/well-look-at-you-surprised-really-hmph-gif-18289023

[tidal bronze]

Impulse orders, and actually using it takes time.

[weak musk]

Takes a bit longer to get points all the way to the flyover states

[forest edge]

aren't you also cali?

[weak musk]

negative

I'm in the place everyone from Cali moves to

[forest edge]

texas?

[weak musk]

C O L O R A D O

[forest edge]

well the weed is why you kept up lol

[tidal bronze]

That "clean air" makes one feel lightheaded

[forest edge]

you realize colorado is also a flyover state..

[weak musk]

lol not so much

[forest edge]

yes is a yes

[weak musk]

I mean, the exception being that people actually want to be here

[forest edge]

meh.. thats debatable lol

[tidal bronze]

Flyover means no direct flights from LAX or JFK. Colorado is not one of them.

[weak musk]

biggest airport in the world QF!

[static schooner]

Denver got a lot of ridicule for their automated baggage system back in the day

[lavish badger]

Yeah the heck with it, let's do 100% infill.

[weak musk]

I've seen it up close-- REALLY bad

[forest edge]

shelly housing?

[lavish badger]

Yeah

[tidal bronze]

You printing?

[lavish badger]

nod

[forest edge]

i made a 3d printed complete enclousure for my older shelly in the barn

wanted to better cover the wires

and terminals

[tidal bronze]

Did it mutate after the heat?

[lavish badger]

I just want to install to be neat. It's going inside essentially inside a breaker panel. Which I conveniently figured out has EXACTLY enough space for a 12" DIN rail once I remove the manual timers.

[tidal bronze]

Cute toilet bowl

[lavish badger]

Reminds me of that ice cream handcuff thing 😛

[forest edge]

worked really well

[static schooner]

ice cream handcuff :wtf:

[lavish badger]

One of these days I need a newer 3D printer.

[static schooner]

those are definitely words

[lavish badger]

Mine still works but it lacks a lot of the modern convenience features.

[static schooner]

sounds like a password

[weak musk]

are you talking about the thing that locked up a pint of ben and jerry's? causing everyone to start cutting open the bottom of the carton?

[lavish badger]

Yeah that thing.

Tell me you don't see the similarity

[forest edge]

older shellies were more round

[lavish badger]

It's a goofy shape either way

Like...what was wrong with a square, or something easy to mount somewhere with tabs.

[forest edge]

it worked

the newer ones are smaller, thinner which is nice

[lavish badger]

I'm really hoping this all fits in the box.

3.5" depth doesn't seem like much

[forest edge]

oh that enclousure included the shelly addon fixed ontop of it which is why it was so thick

i used a temp probe with it. how i get my barn temps lol

[lavish badger]

Ohh is that what the S terminals are for?

[tidal bronze]

Everytime you say Barn 🤣

[lavish badger]

BARN

[forest edge]

even 3d printed a eletrical plug that holds the sensor just outside the metal eltrical box

[lavish badger]

Cute.

Man what did I do before Octoprint

OK even at 100% infill, 2 hours to print. Not bad.

Especially on...man when did I get this printer? 2013?

[forest edge]

those would be considered high end condo's where you are from since tents in lawns seem to be middle class lol

watched that tent hunters show. https://youtu.be/mrMunV4y39I?si=CbYME0fisIw560dw

[lavish badger]

Woa professional Coachella ticket scalper? That's good money.

I don't even want to think about the housing market. We are never moving.

[forest edge]

yea same. had plans to build a house but with all the nightmares in both costs and quality that dosen't look realistic either

I knew I should have done that before covid

[lavish badger]

That's the only reason we were able to do a house.

Well, the biggest one.

We paid $520k for this one...it's now nearly $900k

Like...how.

Also I'm pretty sure the original owners were colorblind

[forest edge]

fancy

[scenic radish]

That looks like it would be blinding during the day

[forest edge]

there is a house near me listed for 800K and you can tell it was some 1980's redo. there is noway in hell it is worth 800k lol

when I talked to the builder about our house the shit on the inside like quality of cabinets, counter tops, flooring etc is where ALL the money goes and it makes sense BUT spending over a million on a relatively small house just to have shit that won't deteriorate from the humidity in the air is ludicrous

[lavish badger]

At night, but we toned it down a bit.

[forest edge]

and that doesn't even take into account the high odds the foundation and framing of the house will likely be a structural hazard

[lavish badger]

Humidity? What state?

[forest edge]

just ambient humidity like anything over 45% lol

[lavish badger]

Arizona we're more likely to get dry rot lol

I had my AC unit drip condensation all over that kitchen ceiling. Wrecked the paint, but with a fan, it dried and I just had to re-mud and paint it, no mold, nothing.

[forest edge]

lines from a split unit or is your shit on the roof?

[lavish badger]

The drain pan cracked on me

That was a fun and expensive fix, too

[forest edge]

your ac unit in the attic or something?

[lavish badger]

One of the air handlers is

It's a weird thing we do here

[forest edge]

do you shade your outside compressor?

[lavish badger]

It's in a corner and the eaves on the house shade it a bit.

But it's not purposefully shaded.

[forest edge]

should purposely shade it. it will help

[lavish badger]

It's also nearly 20 years old now

So...we'll maybe do more when I care about it.

[forest edge]

the harder the unit outside has to work the more condensation you will get

[lavish badger]

It wasn't the quantity that was the issue.

Our average RL is 15% or less

[forest edge]

just saying

[lavish badger]

If the plastic pan has a big crack in it, it's gonna drip down 🙂

[weak musk]

have you tried a plastic pan without a big crack in it?

[lavish badger]

I did!

That oddly enough fixed it.

[forest edge]

I had to run a dehumidifier in our utility room this year cause of the heat waves we were getting

[lavish badger]

Dehumidifiers heat up the room, ironically.

[forest edge]

the room itself wasn't the issue

[weak musk]

https://tenor.com/view/owen-wilson-wow-marley-and-me-smooth-hd-hq-gif-977282450591946462

[robust flicker]

Fun fact: AC was originally invented as a dehumidifier for warehouses and such, and the cooling properties were a "oh, btw.." kind of thing.

[lavish badger]

Decent dehumidifiers contain almost the exact same hardware as AC, it's just arranged slightly differently.

But they still have to expell heat somewhere.

[forest edge]

yea but it's not like super heated air so it's not much of a problem

I wouldn't use it's air output to keep warm lol

[lavish badger]

Oh yeah that’s a nice print.

[twilit venture]

Here's one

Any of you working for big corps?

I have a very specific q

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/need-a-job-evil-corp-job-employed-rami-malek-gif-10667874

[lavish badger]

Define big.

Place I worked earlier this year was 1000 people.

[ocean oar]

I work for an organisation with around 3x as many computers as people, does that help?

[stuck mortar]

I think my household has 3x as many computers as people if you count old laptops sitting around

Ehh 2.5x

[ocean oar]

If you count VMs I'm at about 10x 😄

We have 2.5x just on the laptops that we actively use, let alone the other physical computers

[young sigil]

I now have 4 laptops at work. Old laptop, locked down department laptop I cant use for anything except office shit, rugged laptop for equipment programming, high spec laptop for CAD. Neither of the last two can connect to our file share servers so getting documents between them is a pain. The locked down laptop has no USB drive access. So secure we can't use it 🙄

[static schooner]

OLPC -> One Laptop Per Cat

[ocean oar]

Could have one laptop per cat, one per human, and still have a hot spare

[static schooner]

the cats are more interested in the warmth, so old ones are probably fine for them

[ocean oar]

It is known:

[stuck mortar]

What’s the ideal warmth ratio of inefficient old processors to high powered new hardware?

[primal laurel]

You gotta minimize W/flops

[warm helm]

its not winter yet

[stuck mortar]

I think we need a research study to correlate fur thickness and ambient temperature with minimum acceptable wattage (MAW)

[unborn merlin]

typically it just re-heats the now dried air.

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/man-its-hot-but-its-a-dry-heat-ted-danson-michael-the-good-place-its-hot-gif-16199837

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/dry-heat-yeah-man-but-its-a-dry-heat-alien-aliens-phoenix-gif-2199113697735737831

i think is what you were really looking for

[ocean oar]

You're all postponing the inevitable here. Go and listen to a midwesterner talk about it for 50 minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_QfX0SYCE8

[forest edge]

I saw that video

that guy makes some interesting ones

this was a good one. I actually was looking these up one time https://youtu.be/_-mBeYC2KGc?si=mGblvIBJQYGR-5up

[ocean oar]

Weirdly while it's spring here (which is usually a more damp time of the year in this climate), I've got low humidity issues right now and keep getting static shocks off the cats

[unborn merlin]

yeah I love my new heat pump for A/C

but for dehumidification? it sucks a bit because god fucking damn it will drop the temperature hard and fast while drying.

[forest edge]

many of the modren units I have seen have a "dry" setting

[ocean oar]

I have an automation that switches the heat pump from aggressive heating, to cooling and back every 30 minutes, for when washing really needs to be dry overnight

"dry" is just "cold + high fan speed", it's not really a "smart" feature

[unborn merlin]

yeah I think next year I may put in a separate dehumidifer thing that does the cool and reheat stuff.

no, dry is cold+slow fan speed

because you want the air to get very cold as it moves over the coils..

[ocean oar]

Mine tends to go fairly hard, maybe it's not full speed, but definitely over half

[unborn merlin]

then again mines a 24k BTU unit

the "haul fucking ass" speed is.. a lot

[ocean oar]

I even have a video of how much can be coming out of the condensate hose just on plain-old cooling mode:

[unborn merlin]

🤣 my hose is just chilling on the edge of the fucking roof still

i need to trim it and etc.

.. maybe put a trap on it too; to avoid any reverse drafts/etc.. 🤔

[forest edge]

thats pretty normal

is that dumping outside?

[ocean oar]

Yeah, just straight gravity drain outdoors

[forest edge]

do you ever clean the hose?

[unborn merlin]

mines that currently.. but I think I'll add a 3d printed drain adapter thing just to remove draft stuff from outdoors.. Probably. can't really hurt it I don't think.

[forest edge]

those things will get buildup from like bacteria etc

and clog

[ocean oar]

I flush it with dilute bleach solution once a year

I've seen what happens when you don't, and I don't want that

[forest edge]

yea it's gross

[ocean oar]

People also don't clean the filters nearly often enough, them shits get nasty too

[forest edge]

once a month

in systems they put in these days if you use 1" cheap filters and don't replace it the air drag will suck the filter in the fan lol

[ocean oar]

I was meaning these kind of filters, in a high-wall minisplit. But point stands, monthly is still good

[forest edge]

oh

I forgot we were talking about mini splits lol

[ocean oar]

Eh, most of the same things still apply

Mine also has an electrostatic/ionic type filter in it (which makes a delightful smell of ozone for a second or two once in a while), which undoubtedly increases the amount of dust it's collecting

[unborn merlin]

... bleaach is corrosive sir

aat the very most i'd go near my unit with it'd be like.. simplegreen non-bleach cleaner stuff

I think mine has a bunch of "optional" stuff that isnt installed

[forest edge]

I don't think he read the whole convo lol

maybe he put me back on block. he randomly switches

[unborn merlin]

yes I do love seeing the unit downstairs my family continues to use that I believe still uses fucking R22 and has mold spots all over it in a house with an asthmatic. 🙃

[forest edge]

what kind of weird stuff is going on in hangout?

https://tenor.com/view/pole-dance-pole-dancing-girl-gif-1768513602701809308

[thick crypt]

One way to find out 😉

[forest edge]

i'm too scared

https://tenor.com/view/face-melting-indiana-jones-fire-transforming-gif-12010697

[fathom sparrow]

@crisp oriole can you clean this up and remove all the extra crap? https://github.com/orgs/home-assistant/discussions/996

[crisp oriole]

purged

[fathom sparrow]

Thanks

[crisp oriole]

so much a discussion. for why i need it

[fathom sparrow]

Well, it was about to get closed

because it was just odd

Figured it's best to keep it, right?

[crisp oriole]

its a vision. you see it or you dont...

[fathom sparrow]

I get ya

[crisp oriole]

But i never understand it. I have a question with question mark. and additional stuff. and peeps forget the question that is marked if you fill it but with to much detail.

[fathom sparrow]

There's a fine line between too much info and irrelevant info. All the links you posted made it look like spam. We almost deleted it because of that until I realized it was you and you're just being your normal quirky self. I think the request could benefit from some background but not 5 links and a dissertation about trying to save the world.

[crisp oriole]

why does everyone freak out when some one wants to save the world.

[fathom sparrow]

No one is freaking out. It's just very out of place in regards to a Home Assistant Feature request

[arctic quarry]

supervillain energy ngl

[crisp oriole]

yeah truely freak out then. i never seen a supervillain in real live.

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/aXgSHL7efKg?si=EJmg3pbGsYEftNYu

[scenic radish]

Yikes, BL4 looks like shit on the Xbox Series X

[warm helm]

When are we wiping out humans to do that?

[fathom sparrow]

you got it?

I was going to wait until they hammer out all the issues

[scenic radish]

Yeah

[fathom sparrow]

is it poor performance or does it just look like bad graphics?

[scenic radish]

Bad graphics even on the supposed quality mode. Performance mode is a pretty consistent 60 fps though at least

Quality mode is 30 😬

I don't really even notice a difference in graphics quality on the quality mode, but I definitely notice that it looks like a slideshow

[fathom sparrow]

got a screenshot?

Just curious

[crisp oriole]

I have seen plenty 60fps screenshots. Its surely sharper

[scenic radish]

Yeah I'll share it once it uploads lol

[weak musk]

Ugh, I cooked my motorcycle helmet this morning. Took it off and put it on my bike mirror while filling up gas, the gas pump “clicked” like it auto shut off but when I pulled the pump handle out of my gas tank it kept spraying— I leaned the bike away from the pump while reacting to that and my helmet fell off and bounced a few times on the concrete. 😖

[static schooner]

Is that enough to make it less effective?

[weak musk]

They say you should replace them for any drop over 2 feet

sucks as it’s only 5 months old

[fathom sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/426-426-years-gif-15528574494628270608

[static schooner]

so...many...pixels

[fathom sparrow]

just don't wear a helmet, problem solved

[scenic radish]

It's just refusing to upload for some reason

So after like 5 hours in, it's definitely fun and there's some new stuff that's cool, but the new navigation system within inventory, vending machines, etc. is awful

It's also not a consistent 60 fps

It looks totally different to the point where I honestly thought I bought the wrong game lol

[fathom sparrow]

it's not cell shaded?????????????

[scenic radish]

It is but the UI and everything else is so different

It made me think of Apex Legends

[solar zealot]

Is the story at least any good

[scenic radish]

Better than 3 at least 😂

[fathom sparrow]

oh god

[primal laurel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8lJRcUeEMs

[peak slate]

A post silksong release, though I certainly won't have finished silksong yet to buy another game

[scenic radish]

@fathom sparrow I masked the most minor of spoilers

[fathom sparrow]

That looks pretty good tho

[scenic radish]

Maybe it's not as apparent in screenshots

[fathom sparrow]

I bet you're just a graphics hipster tho

IDGAF about graphics as long as it's fun

And I hope the sotry is better than 3

[fathom sparrow]

I already have 100 hours in that, not relaly looking forward to starting over... my own fault tho

[primal laurel]

I beat chronos once that's it

great steamdeck game

[fathom sparrow]

I technically have all the materials to buy everything and finish the story in ~5 minutes if they were to allow it to happen

but they likely won't

So I'll probably start over

I also beat it when there were ridiculously broken builds

[scenic radish]

I'm so confused

I just randomly received a Shelly 1 Gen4 in the mail that I didn't order

I ordered one a couple of weeks ago, but I already received it, and I searched my email for another order confirmation thinking I accidentally ordered it twice, but I didn't

The top half or so of the BOL in the box (where it seems like there would be an order number and shipping address) was also clearly cut off with scissors

[static schooner]

when you receive a package you didn't order, you just got a gift

If it's a small company, I usually try to return it. If it's MegaCorp, I enjoy my free device

[scenic radish]

No clue where it even actually came from. The address on the box is a large electronics distributor

[static schooner]

could be a sekrit listening device

are you interesting enough to spy on?

[scenic radish]

Shit, they finally got me

[forest edge]

does the bottom of the shelly say something like, "Proudly modified by the NSA"?

[tidal bronze]

Out with Nest in with ecobee

[scenic radish]

About time

[forest edge]

how the hell is ecobee any better

[scenic radish]

Local control

[forest edge]

I thought they still required internet access?

I guess homekit, but I thought that like restricted what you could do

[scenic radish]

The only thing you can't do is choose a custom comfort setting, but I use the schedule on the thermostat itself so I don't care about that

It used to be more limited years ago

[forest edge]

fancy

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze is this why you switched? #the-water-cooler message

welp time to go and setup my new mofi router for the barn

[primal laurel]

For those responding ❓. This was a joke responding to the 'significant drop in air quality detected ' in the picture above it. Now i explained it and its no longer funny (if it ever was) THANKS FOR YOUR ATTENTION

[minor bobcat]

You should start writing for Gov. Twitter accounts

[ocean oar]

Well I was going to make a job about a contest with your significant other about farting directly into the sensor to see who can set it off, so you're good

[primal laurel]

I feel better now

[tidal bronze]

I do have api access from my account from like 12 years ago. Was happy to see that they still allow adding items. I think homekit is faster. I want to use as a dumb switch anyway

[scenic radish]

Same but I can't remember the last time I've used it

[unborn merlin]

best send it over to me, just for safety. 🙃

[tidal bronze]

The hold shit is a pain. Brings backs memories 😅

[scenic radish]

Hmm, I don't think I've had any issues with that?

[static schooner]

When you set home/away/temp, I think it sets it as 'hold' and doesn't follow your program after that. But if you're treating it as a dumb device, I guess it's okay

I still use the ecobee-specific resume program to fix that

[scenic radish]

I think there's a setting for that

Unless you're saying setting it via homekit makes the thermostat ignore that setting

But yeah, I just use the schedule on the thermostat itself and the resume schedule option

[unborn merlin]

hhm.

hey @lone dagger how do we get this thing that esphome has for it here? 🤔

[static schooner]

it's a seemingly random thing. It's here, too

sometimes it claims long-time members are spammers

[forest edge]

you may have been the only one who actually looked at the picture lol

[atomic delta]

Never thought I'd be installing firmware updates on my litter box. But here we are.

[final galleon]

I know there's no support in here but is 6 days typical and have zero replies to a thread lol?

In the support section

[unborn merlin]

welcome to

Open Source Projects

also thats a pretty obvious thread

[static schooner]

You're welcome to look around and see

[unborn merlin]

want to spend time re-adopting each switch? use the HA homekit thing

otherwise; attach HA to homekit for control that involves cloud shit..

[weak musk]

There ya go. I replied.

Whenever possible I connect my stuff directly in home assistant

[unborn merlin]

because fuck the cloud. 😄

when verizons trunk line fiber got fucked last year i was out for.. 3 days?

But the majority of my local/smart stuff continued working because I have it all local control when possible.

and dns rewrites and such.

[final galleon]

Way to try and grow the community... 😉

[unborn merlin]

its a "which work do you want to do" question. 😉

[final galleon]

I get it's an end user decision, but there are always best practices, things that maybe make one more viable then the next etc... (things that I may regret if I choose one path). etc.. That's all I was looking for really.

[unborn merlin]

such is the fun...

there's one path that is the least viable though

... it involves anything with tuya

[final galleon]

Just googled... oh boy

[unborn merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-fuego-gif-26833875

[golden eagle]

Hey folks, quick one for you all, I've noticed this controls widget in my notification bar, is this from Home Assistant or has Google TV pushed an update recently that I'm only just seeing?

[ocean oar]

Just Google things

[golden eagle]

so nothing to do with HA? the mrs is going nuts because she cant get rid of it

[ocean oar]

Just swipes away on my phone 🤷‍♂️

I also get them from the "KDE Connect" app, when I'm playing things on my PC

[golden eagle]

She's a bit of a technophobe at times, so long as its not HA I'm happy, only just started with it and I'm super excited to see how far down the rabbit hole I can fall

[dusty mica]

i feel it, just use dns or third party stuff as excuse 😉

[golden eagle]

I just told her it was a google TV update, she put her phone on airplane mode and went back to washing clothes, all fun and games until she tries to call me later and forgets her phone is on airplane mode..

[dusty mica]

lol

[minor bobcat]

You can disable that auto media player iirc

Settings -> live notifications

[golden eagle]

life saver, that's me back in the big bed tonight 😄

[minor bobcat]

Gotcha bruv lol

[fickle delta]

Does anyone know of a bias light for monitors that is controllable via HA?

[iron granite]

No. But #1284966353798697001 might know.

[solar zealot]

beware, there may be biased tho

[lost holly]

Why my localtuya can't get tuya cloud equipment info？ CID Client Secret: UID are all input in

[silent dove]

The topic of this channel is:

There’s no support here - only chill. Come in, grab a drink, chat with your fellow community members! This is a space to talk to other smart home enthusiasts. If you’re "just asking a question", you're asking for support. Head to https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284968640189304913 to help you find where you should post your question. No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

[iron granite]

#find-support

[warm helm]

None

[atomic delta]

Well that was weird. Litter Robot waste drawer has been at 1%, 3%, 5%, 8%... 159%. Wtf? Checked it, hit reset, and everything's fine now. But wtf.

And it's nothing to do with HA, the thing actually thought it was full.

[static schooner]

It uses a laser to measure the height in the waste drawer. It could be dusty

Or a tower of poop formed and collapsed 🙂

[iron granite]

A poo-nami.

[simple gazelle]

https://bsky.app/profile/lumberjackwharfie.bsky.social/post/3lxhwrjo5v22n

lumberjack wharfie (@lumberjackwharfie.bsky.social)

Yesterday, at approximately 9:30pm U.S. Central Daylight Time, somebody aboard the International Space Station rocked an astronomically impressive piss:

-# ISS Piss Tracker (@iss-piss-tracker.bsky.social)
The piss tank on the ISS is now 38% full.

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[robust flicker]

leaning tower of peeesa

[iron granite]

The constellation of Urineon

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/double-dab-dance-cool-dad-gif-12990287711105363123

[scenic radish]

With bacon't

[unborn merlin]

me squinting at this antenna-modded pi zero2w being like "how the fuck did I ever manage to get that resistor on there?"

[cursive halo]

Was googling if there's a way to integrate my KDE system into home assistant, ideally via MQTT and found this repo: https://github.com/davidedmundson/kiot

Worked without an issue, which was a very pleasant surprise, need to figure out if there's a way to pass stuff into scripts for KDE, maybe something like TTS

[modest osprey]

My local IP on dashboard started showing incorrect value today. Rip 💀

It shows completely different subnet like 172.x.x.x instead of 192.168.1.150

[floral ruin]

good sunday everyone... no idea where to ask this... but my ha is not reachable anymore after updating to latest docker image and bambu integration is probably the cause... how can I disable it in the config? My configuration.yaml is so empty and I am lost

[silent dove]

The topic of this channel is:

There’s no support here - only chill. Come in, grab a drink, chat with your fellow community members! This is a space to talk to other smart home enthusiasts. If you’re "just asking a question", you're asking for support. Head to https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284968640189304913 to help you find where you should post your question. No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

[crisp oriole]

Just a note. I did some research and a fearure like it was dropped because development felt no need for it. Thats why i added the need to the post.

[robust flicker]

Beautiful Sunday morning in coastal Alabama, Mishka chilling with me in the hammock.

[arctic quarry]

yes

cat chilling is strongly recommended

[nimble pagoda]

welp

[odd mist]

this is a little high, right? 😂

it's only 5.56 years

[vernal ore]

why duck dns website showing error

[iron granite]

Maybe the DuckDNS website has an error.

[vernal ore]

it was 2 days now

[unborn merlin]

biigger question is why aren't you just running adguard or something with DNS-over-TLS to cloudflare or somkething.. 😄

[forest edge]

that silicone?

[minor bobcat]

It's probably closer to silicon now

[sinful fable]

Does anyone know a good SIEM for home?

[minor bobcat]

must be fake, no errors on the dash

[forest solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244

[nimble pagoda]

Filling compound

[high remnant]

ODB2 scanner to reset ‘em on the go

tbh the fucking thing jumped into N at the péage

didn’t want to go into gear only after restarting

[minor bobcat]

that car is so fucked, holy

[high remnant]

ikr

[high remnant]

it’s an audi ofc it is

[robust flicker]

Rumor has it that Audi will be making a truck in Texas. It's gonna be called the .... Audi Pardna

https://tenor.com/ESDL.gif

[sinful fable]

yer speedin

and using your phone while doing so

tut tut

[high remnant]

my friend made that picture using my phone :)

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/chihuahua-cane-recensionivere-cosa-what-gif-7417567602944477819

[sinful fable]

oh, i forget other countries have the steering wheel on the left

[high remnant]

😂😂😂😂

https://tenor.com/view/british-moment-gif-25175629

[sinful fable]

guilty

[high remnant]

it’s france so it’s fine

[primal laurel]

My bike also has the steering wheel on the left.

[minor saddle]

Hey, can someone help me with home assistant on proxmox? It boots up and displays an ip to connect to but no UI loads. It is pingable with my Mac though

When I try to do commands like this, here’s what happens

Does anyone know why this is happening?

[static schooner]

#1284966540617449515

[silent dove]

The topic of this channel is:

There’s no support here - only chill. Come in, grab a drink, chat with your fellow community members! This is a space to talk to other smart home enthusiasts. If you’re "just asking a question", you're asking for support. Head to https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284968640189304913 to help you find where you should post your question. No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

[valid leaf]

just got my ssl/tailscale setup rocking, very happy

[minor saddle]

My bad

Hey, I solved my own problem lmao. How do I tag it “solved”

Don’t use discord too much

[static schooner]

Add the Resolved tag

[unborn merlin]

and remember dont post the solution. /s

[mortal walrus]

There's a spammer posting in threads in #1284966617670881350 - could a moderator take a look?

[static schooner]

Found and killed. Thanks for reporting

[scenic radish]

I was able to flash 10 of them OTA, but when I got to one of them I noticed it was a different model that isn't compatible with this tool, so I opened it up and transplanted an ESP32 on it 🎉

Up to 30 successful transplants now, most of which were from years ago

[ocean oar]

One of my colleagues was similarly... busy... over the weekend

Bought a Petkit-branded cat feeder, and was soldering wires to it to reflash its ESP32 brains with esphome firmware

They sent me this 😄

[scenic radish]

You love to see it

[ocean oar]

If anyone needs an automatic dry pet food dispenser, sounds like this one gets the seal of approval for ease of de-clouding
https://devices.esphome.io/devices/Petkit-Fresh-Element-Solo-Pet-Feeder

[scenic radish]

I've been throwing around the idea of getting one, so that might be the push I need. Flashing that looks E Z P Z

I love when devices have a button on IO0 / IO9

[ocean oar]

I have the earlier model which despite being an esp8266 doesn't seem to be as amenable to wholesale replacement of its software

This person did the hilarious method of but what about second ESP8266? and stuffed their own inside the enclosure 😆
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/diy-petkit-feeder-local-integration-to-home-assistant-via-esphome/338971

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/turtles-all-the-way-down-gif-18021411

[forest edge]

don't really see a point of a networked pet feeder. the dumb schedule one's work just as one would ever need

[ocean oar]

Can add extra feeding to the schedule if I'm going to be home late. Notifies me when the food in it is low. Alerts me if I've accidentally knocked its power supply out (mine has backup batteries) so I can fix it rather than the cats not getting fed

[scenic radish]

It was totally worth watching until the end

[forest edge]

schedule wouldn't need "extra feeding". cats are only suppose to have x amount daily so that gets dispensed regardless if you are home or not. battery backup is pretty standard on most of them

[ocean oar]

Our cats get a mixed wet/dry food diet. It's more dry food replacing evening wet food if we happen to not be home

[forest edge]

well they do make wet food dispensers

but that be gross lol

[ocean oar]

Also batteries might be a standard feature, but that doesn't stop me not noticing it's unplugged and the batteries dying

[forest edge]

mine flashes if low on food, on battery backup

but I guess if one really wanted they could modify it to make a sound or even add network capabilities to a dumb unit

[desert cave]

A year ago we had to replace our dishwasher, and I let my housemate pick since they were offering to pay for it. We ended up with a halfway decent washer, except for the fact that it requires wifi to run. Like it wouldn't let us start it until it was online

[forest edge]

bosch?

[desert cave]

yup!

[atomic delta]

In my case, the value of a networked one is that I could make it yell at my dad through a telegram bot. But we free feed, so all I'd need is a low food sensor.

Also, good to know, do not buy Bosch...

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/5M_hmwBBPnc?si=fUhzyG2qifrNVpZz

[forest edge]

dumb feeder + something like a shelly uni or esp would be cheaper than a "smart" feeder. would be my only gripe in that direction lol

[scenic radish]

Wtf...that's wild

[untold pendant]

God I hate how horrible google is with setting your devices vs Apple HomeKit. Apple: yeah just add homebridge and boom we see it all. Google: derrrr can you go through 50 steps to tell me what everything is and enable 4 other things as well thx

[scenic radish]

[minor saddle]

Hey, can someone help me with some very basic code? Neither myself nor chatgpt 5 are apparently competent enough with yaml

I just need some yaml code for an mmwave sensors but nothing online seems to work

[iron granite]

#find-support

[dense bramble]

Okay..... I don't think this is normal. HA's become very sluggish lately, struggling to even load normally from the 1st try ... gotta Ctrl R a few (20-30) times w/o any cache to force it to load... Not alright.
This is a VM with plenty of resources (host is TR3960x with 256G ram, nvmes, etc)..... Has anyone seen something similar on your instances?

Even now the CPU usage is hovering between 20-50% and nothing is loading, not the dashboard, not settings, not anything I try. Right now I'm trying to open http://homeassistant.local:8123/hassio it's the 50th "hard refresh" ... all I see is white background with the HA logo, nothing else.

[primal laurel]

Go to #1284966540617449515

[forest edge]

that actually be better to post about on the community forum than on discord imo

[primal laurel]

Anywhere but here

[dense bramble]

That's what I was thinking, because posting a topic in a channel... chances are a lot of people won't pay attention if they have a similar problem - which is why I post here, and I'll also @ the forum....

[forest edge]

0 support in this channel period just for future ref

[dense bramble]

Wasnt looking for support - was just asking if anyone else spotted such a pattern at around 30 Jan - 7 Feb.

If at least 1 person didn't - I could then look into what I have instaled, remove (break) stuff until I find the culprit (which would take time). And if other people have seen similar trend - we can easily compare what we've got installed.

[primal laurel]

That is support

[dense bramble]

Support is "hey, someone fix this", not something I plan to determine / fix by myself with just a little info from 1-2 people. "Seen this? No. / Yes." would be sufficient.

Just FYI.

[forest edge]

it doesn't matter what we think individually. what only matters is the overlords opinion and what you stated would be treated as support lol

best just to accept the grim fate and move on

[coarse zephyr]

Hi all, I looking to have a conversation around being able to interact and see data from my boiler in HA.
I am in the UK, and very new to HA so would love to just chat about it if someone has information here or has done this?

[forest edge]

depending how you added to to HA #1284966582375813201 , #1284966664357810196 or just plain #1284966353798697001

[coarse zephyr]

well I guess first its a hardware question, because I am no-where with it.
Ohh so you need to create a post, there isnt just a forum to chat openly about it?

[forest edge]

correct. any "help" or advise about HA goes in support

[coarse zephyr]

no worries at all!

Thanks for the pointer, and sorry for spamming this channel given it isnt the right place.

[primal laurel]

A little information = support. As soon as someone starts communication with you about your problems, that is support. Im not saying i agree with the channel rules but like this kind of conversation always turns into support

[dense bramble]

So, you do know the difference between conversation and support. Good 🙂

As for the rules, some of them suck.

[primal laurel]

Conversation about your problems is support

[minor bobcat]

This convo about support is support

Supportception

[dense bramble]

lol 🙂

this turned out to be fun!

[minor bobcat]

I get why a thread is more useful though. I scroll through discord and see something where I might be able to help and just hadn't gotten around to properly articulate an answer or a reasonable follow-up question. I can come back later and answer them. If it's in the middle of some random chat you loose track and it's probably gone forever.

[dense bramble]

I'll place a thread in configuration in a few...

[minor bobcat]

Just don't be surprised if it might take a few days for the first answer to Pop up

[dense bramble]

would've been good if we could place more tags tho... the available ones are just ......

As for the "delay as per usual" - main reason for me to not post a thread initially 😉

[hearty palm]

if i already have a reverse proxy and home assistant exposed do i have to buy the subscription to connect to google home

[forest edge]

its been some time since I played with that but I think you still have to purchase the one time 5 buck access to the api. the home assistant page on google should be updated to clarify

[hearty palm]

oh thats is a bit disappointing but thanks for letting me know

[dense bramble]

You can do it the "manual" way, I think it still works (new steps were provided some 5-6 months ago I think)

[hearty palm]

worst case scanario i find a work around

also if anyone is interested i made an automation that allows me to launch minecraft from when i am not home

most people wont find this useful but i do find it useful since minecraft of my pc takes like 20 to 30 minutes to launch so i prefer not to wait long when i come home

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-nerd-yelling-insult-gif-7884166

[simple gazelle]

Let me guess, some huge industrial modpack?

I get the feeling the sort of person who runs HA is the sort of person who is likely to play Modded MC, OpenTTD, or Factorio

[modest willow]

a couple days ago my wife and i were driving somewhere and a guy who looked just incredibly stereotypically like 1980s nerd was crossing the street in front of us and my wife looked at me and said 'don't. don't do it.'

and i was like 'what' and she said "i know you want to roll down your window and shout nerd"

and i was like ... "HOW DID YOU JUST READ MY MIND YOU FUCKIN WITCHHHH"

"i have been married to you a long time"

[i am also a huuuuuge fuckin nerd, obviously]

[as is she]

[dense bramble]

we all nerds here, no judgement 😉

[modest willow]

my wife is this level of nerd

two of those three NeXts work

[dense bramble]

🙂

[stuck anchor]

there was i guy i knew way back who kept calling me for assistance every time he messed up his NeXT. which was pretty much every time he tried to do admin stuff on it. that's the only NeXT i ever touched. seemed nice, but i worked on sun systems back then.

[modest willow]

i loved the nexts i used in college but they were getting old already even then (mid 90s)

i was also fairly Sun centric

[peak slate]

Is your wife secretly weird Al?

Does she sing about bologna, Star wars, and the Amish?

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/weird-al-toby-fox-no-more-nuzzles-dance-weird-al-dance-gif-27358951

[robust flicker]

I was straddling that nerd/jock line all throughout middle and high school until my graduation in 1994. I was in the math club, the chess club, the guy people asked for help in computer lab, AND on the football (US) team. lmao

(they did try asking my much-more-knowledgeable cousin, but.. he hates people, and always has lol)

He helped me get slackware linux installed on my computer in like 1993. My machine had a proprietary CD rom and it wouldn't completely boot. He did some black magic (passed a kernel line on the LiLo prompt, something like hdd=cdrom or something, it's been 30+ years lol)

[modest willow]

lol @peak slate nah she's more in the 'bulgarian/balkan folk song' kind of accordion crowd

[robust flicker]

My cousin had a sparcstation at his house in the mid to late 1990s! 🙂

[modest willow]

i actually had a sparc clone in 1994 in freshman year of college

an Axil 311

[robust flicker]

nice. He had the real thing, but it was a few years old. He snagged it when a local-ish chemical plant tossed out a bunch of stuff. he was already working there as a senior, and managed to get into their IT department without a bit of formal education.

[modest willow]

i bought mine with academic prize money

[robust flicker]

He's since gotten a masters in compsci, though.