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atomic delta
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Tuya Zigbee devices are generally reliable, only had a problem with one and I've been using a couple dozen. Wifi Tuya is dogshit and should die in a fire.

forest edge
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ZW? ooo you mean the fancier variation of 433Mhz lol

proper swift
tidal bronze
atomic delta
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I mean, it's Chinese import garbage. Know what you're getting.

forest edge
tidal bronze
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You know I am only a fan of shit that just works.

sharp scaffold
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I actually started off HA with 433MHz sensors and buttons and a Sonoff gateway, such a pain

unborn merlin
proper swift
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My initial setup was all onewire and insteon. I still have someof the onewire stuff.

forest edge
sharp scaffold
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it would be nice if HA just worked, I had to set up the family with a Hubitat because it was supposed to be easier to use

tidal bronze
sharp scaffold
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433 is OK when it works, but range was a problem, especially around metal

forest edge
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I kind of wish I had bought more of that stuff back when it was the "fad" cause now they want an arm and leg for 433mhz stuff with the one exception of temp sensors

sharp scaffold
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buttons would sometimes work, sometimes not

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ooh x10

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OG unreliability

tidal bronze
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There was nothing else when I started

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No states for sure

proper swift
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god, x10 was so bad

tidal bronze
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Ahh the good old homeseer

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Who messed with Vera?

proper swift
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I really liked insteon. the whole feed the data through both the powerline and in the later ones RF, that was gold. the protocol, omg, what were they thinking.

sharp scaffold
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there is still some powerline stuff around in Germany

forest edge
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tried that powerline wall networking stuff

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it was trash

proper swift
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oh yeah that was bad

sharp scaffold
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yeah, that's what I tried for the family before Hubitat. turns out it's less usable than early HA

unborn merlin
atomic delta
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I mean, they do, but you pay a premium and it's generally not worth it.

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And usually they're more protected against "tampering", which also means they often lack compatibility.

tidal bronze
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That time of the day.

forest edge
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I still need to fix mine but we mostly only ever used it during winter

tidal bronze
unborn merlin
forest edge
tidal bronze
forest edge
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oh, no.. not that

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nothing worse than going to some place where everyone has urinated in the pool and they ask you to rub monkey shit on your face

tidal bronze
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You'd fit right in

forest edge
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they would hate someone like me there

tidal bronze
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Hate? You know that it's not middle earth right?

unborn merlin
forest edge
tidal bronze
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Yes. Used to work there. Fell in love.

forest edge
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your from iceland?

tidal bronze
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Not yet. I would consider if not the cranberry sauce.

forest edge
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how the hell could you have worked there?

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we know you like planes but jesus that commute don't make sense

tidal bronze
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Movies Drones you know.

forest edge
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oh well that is not really the same lol

tidal bronze
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Hard work. Trust me.

forest edge
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even the way you said that makes me not trust you

tidal bronze
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It's alright. Shoots are generally 18 days at a time. 20 minutes of actual work. So yep it's darn exhausting

forest edge
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yea I bet the lack of free hand for the wine glass was pure torture

normal moon
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I am now picturing someone wearing an orange vest with “DRONE OPERATOR” in black letters, and a hard-hat with two wine bottles mounted on either side, with straws down to the someone’s mouth

unborn merlin
tidal bronze
unborn merlin
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hm; odd I would've thought they would want repeatability stuff..

tidal bronze
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Mostly hero shots. Nothing to repeat.

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Flew mostly ARRI Alexa and REDs

static schooner
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Capture any spectacular crashes or collisions?

unborn merlin
tidal bronze
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Oh and lost a Phantom Flex4k somewhere Santa Monica

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If not for NDAs got stuff for days.

forest edge
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i'm confused. I thought you didn't do that kind of work anymore? granted you still won't tell us wtf you do but you had said you don't do that work

tidal bronze
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No. Not anymore. Been sometime. Just consult now on some complicated takes. WFH 😆

forest edge
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did you get to meet any of the actors on those marvel movies?

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I would have loved to have met scarlett johansson back in the day on the set of the island lol

tidal bronze
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And do what?

forest edge
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talking early 2000's back then. I was younger and friskier

static schooner
atomic delta
tidal bronze
forest edge
unborn merlin
pallid cobalt
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https://youtu.be/HxwhCmO90UQ?t=626

I really should not pick up another hobby.

If you want to take a look through a similar telescope, follow this link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lf6uuU51Z8&t=1608s

Optical Engineer Rik ter Horst shows us how he makes very small telescopes (at home) which are intended for use in micro-satellites.
Contents:
0:00 Intro
1:06 About telescopes and focal length
3:35 The Cassegrain teles...

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but I do enjoy polishing things. lets me turn off my brain for a while.

fading mica
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Well, I'm finally here, at least. Been hacking away at Sengled WiFi bulbs all month. Spent so much time thinking outside-the-box, I never even realized there was a HA Discord. I'd say it's closer than ever... we can already reflash WF863-based WiFi bulbs (OTA, no soldering needed) to Tasmota (look up SengledTools if you haven't already seen it!), but for other WiFi modules in bulbs, need to rely on the stock firmware. Check the FCC ID on the side of the bulb to see if it's a WF863-based bulb if you want to jump straight to Tasmota! But for the others... I'm exploring building an HA integration. (We have the setup flow & MQTT nuances mostly figured out and I have control over my WiFi-based devices locally - just using the scripts, not HA, unless they run Tasmota -- yet)

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and on that note, I hope you haven't thrown them away, haha 🙂 ☝️

stuck anchor
forest edge
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who the hell would do that

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miles away and the thing suddenly loses connection

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buh bye drone

stuck anchor
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i guess a tower using starlink as backhaul could have a bit of a latency problem though

stuck anchor
forest edge
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power line inspections don't need "miles" of range and the first and last are pretty much the same thing and the military dosen't use 5g

ocean oar
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Just use power line networking, duh /s

stuck anchor
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have you seen where norwegian power lines go? you definitely need miles of range. but is there 5g coverage in those remote areas?

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the norwegian army had a demo flying a drone through a private slice over 5g

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and we can add search and rescue operations. natural disaster response.

ocean oar
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We do "power generation in the middle of nowhere" pretty well here in NZ too:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Grid_(New_Zealand)#/media/File:New_Zealand_transmission_grid.svg

The National Grid is the nationwide system of electric power transmission in New Zealand. The grid is owned, operated and maintained by Transpower New Zealand, a state-owned enterprise, although some lines are owned by local distribution companies and leased to Transpower. In total, the national grid contains 11,803 kilometres (7,334 mi) of high...

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The bottom left blue dot is this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manapōuri_Power_Station
A hydroelectric power station they built 200 metres underground, in the middle of a mountain

Manapōuri Power Station is an underground hydroelectric power station on the western arm of Lake Manapouri in Fiordland National Park, in the South Island of New Zealand. At 854 MW installed capacity (although limited to 800 MW due to resource consent limits), it is the largest hydroelectric power station in New Zealand, and the second largest ...

forest edge
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so many bad movies coming out

stuck anchor
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one of the thoughts is that search and rescue, disaster response teams just need to be able to get a complete package with a drone, charging etc on site. then the operator can be on call anywhere. no need for skilled and experienced drone operators on call everywhere.

forest edge
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lol they came out with something like that for police here. not sure it's been deployed yet but basically dispatching drones from a central building that can fly all over the city to be a "first responder"

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not that it helps people

stuck anchor
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i guess that sometimes getting a noisy camera on site to let people know they are being observed can be a deterrent. but then there are dark sides to that as well.

forest edge
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I think it's more for letting officers know if it's a gun fight etc but there is a systemic flaw always in place that dosen't get addressed and no amount of new tech is fixing it

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and that's proper human to human communication

stuck anchor
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and that requires funding people trained to do that.

hearty palm
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i can only say one thing music assistant with home assistant is amazing

primal laurel
primal laurel
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BYD also doing well apparently

minor bobcat
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Driving microwave /s

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I'm looking at Renault 5 EVs

stuck anchor
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not ping latency but getting consistent latency comparable to line-of-sight wireless backhaul or fiber

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for stuff that really needs low latency.

robust flicker
stuck anchor
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the aim in 5g is to get latency down to 1ms on established communication channels. down from 50ms on 4g. to get there a phone provider must have a 5g core, not just run 5g in compatibility mode on a 4g core.

primal laurel
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there is no reason why a wireless connection should have a higher latency than wired. It's the type of equipment and protocols used why things can be slower. You can do remote driving on 5G for example because the latency is so low

high remnant
reef bolt
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get you some for xmas

peak slate
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So apparently I adopted a rug troll

scenic radish
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wdym, I don't see anything other than a rug

lucid atlas
high remnant
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rugpull

peak slate
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She takes dustbaths underneath the rugs and moves them all around the house

primal laurel
arctic quarry
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the planet is healing

pallid cobalt
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Anyone have any recommendations on an inexpensive 'roller shade' ?
About to go digging through my parts bin, like... a servo and MCU is something I already have laying around, but I'd prefer to buy something already assembled if it's not too costly.

I've got a blackout shade that I just leave down all the time because it's inconvenient for me to pull it up and down ad-hoc but I'd love to have it automated.

(It'd be grand if the local government would fix the street lamp that prompted me to install it in the first place, but let's not get crazy here)

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[the lamp flickers all night and has done so for like six months now]

static schooner
pallid cobalt
static schooner
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post

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yes, that was the suggestion

glacial knot
lucid atlas
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Maybe it will get tuned in an update

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But I've even taped my "selfie camera" in my 01 lol, who needs a camera on your face in your car

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The Chinese government probably

proper swift
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well I'll be a monkey's item. This bond bridge just worked out of the box on my ancient ceiling fans

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I kinda expected to have to fight it to the death via raw api fiddle

forest edge
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this is interesting. appears the leak detection if twisted through the length of the cable rather than something just at the end of it. https://youtu.be/f5pxU8QWsVg?si=w4guPivchRlggLXF

Stay ahead of leaks with Shelly Flood Gen4

Smart, flexible, with real-time notification - Shelly’s newest sensor detects leaks instantly.

✔️ Multiprotocol connectivity - works over Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Zigbee, or Matter
✔️ Extendable leak sensor cable for wider coverage
✔️ Flood & rain detection modes
✔️ Three alert styles: Int...

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primal laurel
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It's basically just two wires wrapped around the rope

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I've seen these before

proper swift
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that looks interesting

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presumably it will pick up water anywhere along the cable.. so more protection surface

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For me, the million dollar bit of that, is not having the device physically in the flood, so the battery shorts out

primal laurel
crude shore
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Anyone have any suggestion for BlueTooth presence detection that will do a people/device count? I don't want to check for one device, but any device (assuming anyone standing there will have a phone on them), and all the projects I have found track only a list of known devices. I have a gate at the end of the property and I want to use BT as a secondary method to detect when someone is at the gate. I have a Pi at the gate now, and Ethernet, but no wifi. Thanks for any suggestions.

primal laurel
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You just need to connect one wire to the other

proper swift
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otherwise you have to wait until the pool makes its way over to the sensor

static schooner
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I have some plastic shelf-liner sheets with little grooves in it that has prevented my leak sensor from triggering in the past. It sat on top of the grooves and the water happily ran through the troughs 🙂

forest edge
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lol that would suck

proper swift
static schooner
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I now have a tray around my espresso equipment to allow the water to pool, and I put my water sensor for my water heater pan in a plastic container below the pipe. It's definitely a tradeoff between having enough water to trigger the sensor and not enough to completely submerge it, but many are IP68 rated now

proper swift
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Once that gen4 thing shows up on amazon I might have to buy 6 of em.

limber charm
unborn merlin
tidal bronze
lavish badger
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Hmmm. VGA output on a raspberry pi is not nearly as complex as I expected. I may convert the arcade cabinet this weekend.

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The Core2Duo running Win7 in there just sucks

unborn merlin
peak slate
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Lol dual core and core 2 duo are potentially decades apart in technology

peak slate
unborn merlin
peak slate
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_2 and the pi 4 is going to be faster than a core2duo too

Intel Core 2 is a processor family encompassing a range of Intel's mainstream 64-bit x86-64 single-, dual-, and quad-core microprocessors based on the Core microarchitecture, the successor to the NetBurst. The single- and dual-core models are single-die, whereas the quad-core models comprise two dies, each containing two cores, packaged in a mul...

unborn merlin
peak slate
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Yeah I was trying to clear it which didn't work out well

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So linked the dumb name

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The newest CPUs are even dumber in name

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And now airplane mode!

unborn merlin
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its surprising that apple/intels lightning connector managed to be not named so fucking dumb

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or thunderbolt

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whatrever. 😄

proper swift
tidal bronze
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I use it for some fans and outdoor shades. Assumed states are great too

forest edge
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just to control rf fans?

tidal bronze
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RF anything

forest edge
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that bond thing is over priced lol

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hell the RM4 can do that and IR and it gives you temp/humidity

tidal bronze
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Use RM4 too. Love the Bond

forest edge
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Excuse me sir, do you have one that cost 3-4x more with less features?

lavish badger
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Mostly just because the 3 still has analog audio

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And loading a full Windows GUI for an arcade cabinet is a little silly.

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(Although the dance machine needs Windows since that software doesn't work on Linux, at least not with the skins I use)

peak slate
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I thought rtl-sdr was the rf go to

forest edge
peak slate
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Ahhh

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I assumed it could

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Link to rm4/bond

forest edge
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well it can, but you would have to have two lol

peak slate
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Por que no los dos!

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(why not both)

tidal bronze
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SDR is great for bbq

peak slate
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I have an RF fan and rain gauge

forest edge
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and 433/315Mhz stuff, like temp sensors

peak slate
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I know I'd need a second rtl sdr single for a weather satellite ground link

forest edge
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actually just to receive you don't if you are refering to diffrent freqencies

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software like rtl-433 can auto cycle between predefined frequencies

peak slate
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Fair, but I'd think the antenna hardware will be different

forest edge
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not sure I follow

peak slate
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433mhz rain gauge isn't on the roof

forest edge
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oh thats something completely diffrent

peak slate
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You can do it with an rtl-sdr single, that hardware is all the same

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But you need different antennas to get space based data

forest edge
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yea but that is using software just for that

peak slate
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There's an entire open source ground station network amateur satellites can schedule time on

forest edge
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not the same as like monitoring for low end devices like 433 or 315

peak slate
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Built in the same way

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I think the wife has just conceded that one day there'll be a small dish in the backyard and an agent at the door asking why the military satellite is getting heavy metal transmitted to it

unborn merlin
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or you just hack starlink and get one of the 50 something keys they have stored on each dish! /s

peak slate
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A lot of satellites are security by obscurity

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If you can reverse engineer the commanding packets and point a dish at them, they'll do whatever you say

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No encryption, no signing, no security

peak slate
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Just spam up ccsds messages and see what comes back

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Though I guess good luck guessing some of the header info

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Lol

normal moon
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Unrelated, but one of the very few exceptions to the “no music” rule for amateur radio is retransmitting ground-to-space audio originally sent to manned spacecraft, because the astronauts get wake-up songs.

peak slate
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(satnogs and nyansat are good resources if you're interested in it)

warm helm
peak slate
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Otherwise it's all about participation in the distributed ground station networks

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I think there are some other data sources that are unencrypted that you can tap into as well, but media companies love their drm to make sure everyone pays $200/month to watch ads

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Terrestrial TV stations aren't encrypted but those are free anyway with an antenna

primal laurel
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I have a hackRF and an RTLSDR thingy

peak slate
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Very nice

primal laurel
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from NOAA 15, when it was still alive

warm helm
static schooner
warm helm
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also plex doesn't decode AC-4 audio so no point to upgrade yet

static schooner
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I was annoyed that San Diego is practically dead last in the US major markets to transition to ATSC 3.0, but it's encrypted pretty much everywhere and essentially useless for me

unborn merlin
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terroristic.... weather broadcasts. /s

peak slate
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They're need a lot of good engineers to get that to work

static schooner
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I shall kill you grass by making your irrigation system think it's going to rain!!!!

unborn merlin
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🙃

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I don't doubt that its definitely doable; and it'd be very funny

peak slate
unborn merlin
peak slate
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Assuming they have enough fuel to spin up fast enough to go boom

unborn merlin
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using them

unborn merlin
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hijacking.. and using them

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as intended.

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😛

peak slate
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To CONTROL THE WEATHER

unborn merlin
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that may just piss off the current admin more than hijacking/destroying them.

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😛

peak slate
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Ddos the weather airwaves with spam

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The space airwaves will be cat videos and only cat videos

unborn merlin
static schooner
unborn merlin
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hell china can take over the weather satellites.

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that'd be hilarious.

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🙃

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people relying on... chinese-made weather channel would be very funny.

forest edge
static schooner
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I don't think I'm literally missing anything

forest edge
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if OTA had half or whatever the amount of shit channels back then like it does now.. tv would have never blew up lol

static schooner
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Broadcast networks are still 720p/1080i

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My guide and DVR is through Channels DVR and HD Homerun

forest edge
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I'll have to skim through mine but pretty sure ours is 1080p and I have seen on videos of channels actually doing 4k

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supposedly at some point there is even going to be some 2way stuff. not sure how that works unless that's the internet required stuff

static schooner
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Looks like maybe you can get 1080p on some channels

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But if it's encrypted and I can't record it, screw that

scenic radish
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*tape it

static schooner
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I was hoping to see 4K broadcasts, but it seems like that's a ways off.

scenic radish
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Wow, HDR even

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I guess it's only 2 more bits per pixel (if HDR10) though

unborn merlin
static schooner
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Just to compete in some way with streaming. It's lapped broadcast in so many ways

unborn merlin
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... plus any decent 4k TV does tend to have onboard upsampling stuff.

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well yes.

That's how things that cost money tend to go.

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also with how any TV that has a tuner tends to default over to the HDMI input and like..

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effort to change over to broadcast.. ehhh

atomic delta
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It begins: I just bought a litter robot. It'll be here in a week and a half or so.

static schooner
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I hope you love it. I have 3 🙂

static schooner
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I currently have four cats

scenic radish
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ah, n+1

static schooner
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It's a lot of cats

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Supposed to be the other way around, but it works

scenic radish
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oh right, I was thinking backward

forest edge
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lots and lots of cats

midnight adder
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I have a raspi 4b 2gb ram. I want to try out HA to integrate all my different smart devices from different ecosystems. Should I run HAOS or raspi os and install HA?

forest edge
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with 2gb of ram I don't believe you would need much control in terms of installing anything else on the same pi tho

midnight adder
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maybe like a pihole or something but depends how much haos needs

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lmao

forest edge
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actually only haos and docker is all that remains I think

midnight adder
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SSD usb enclosure instead of SD

forest edge
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@scenic radish you had to like redo your setup didn't you? I remember the days of gloating over non supervised lol

static schooner
scenic radish
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Migrated my config each time

forest edge
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has not been no 5 years

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no way

midnight adder
scenic radish
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Yeah, just looked it up and I switched around June 2020

forest edge
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thats crazy

scenic radish
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yup

forest edge
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I remember the whole "core" shit lol

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I always like running across these videos

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"It may not look futuristic, but this is a highly intelligent car."

Tomorrow's World presenters Judith Hann and Peter Macann look at a concept car that aims to predict the kind of vehicles we might well be driving in the 21st Century. One of the most interesting features of the car is a large navigation panel that will offer drivers assistance ...

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however the buzzing noise when the "nav" is facing toward the camera getting wors than whn it's hld upright is weird as hell

static schooner
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I wonder what outdated system Germany had?

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Otherwise, the 'roadside computers' are our phones that we buy and the 'loops' in the road are the GPS satellites

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And routing around traffic is the magic of Google and the Internet

dusty mica
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Enigma..

static schooner
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Dead reckoning does not work well. My old car tried to do that when the dealer forgot to hook up the GPS antenna and it was utterly useless

unborn merlin
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wonder if one can get modern car dealerships to do that

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"Ok sure, now before I sign go pull the sim card out."

static schooner
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It had me in the wrong place before I even got out of my subdivision, which was not far. And it has no way to correct, so it just compounds

forest edge
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how does the dealer forget to hook up the gps antenna? don't those come from factory already done?

static schooner
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There was a squeak in the dash and they had to disassemble everything to find it. Somewhere in there they had to disconnect the attention's and forgot to hook it back up

forest edge
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I know in some fords the gps antenna plugs directly into the infotainment unit. not sure about others but would make sense to easily forget

static schooner
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It was a Lexus that I think was built in Japan, but yeah, the service was in the US. They were quite apologetic and both picked it up and dropped it back off

static schooner
unborn merlin
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Probably. 🙃 because we live in a shithole

static schooner
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Do a crappy job, do it twice

unborn merlin
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which double fucks over the guy because they probably then refuse to pay em 😄

static schooner
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Seems the guy fucked himself over 🙂

unborn merlin
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being rushed to manage a decent wage* fucked him

forest edge
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the hate

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they are doing a johnny 5 reboot. ugh they are so going to ruin that

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guess i should say short circuit reboot

unborn merlin
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tipping brain 🙃 is a bad thing

forest edge
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you realize people have a choice right? they don't have to work for a dealer if thy want to be paid hourly lol

arctic quarry
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lol

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choice in the job market

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nice idea, we should try it

forest edge
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having struggles?

arctic quarry
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by design, workers having choices (and rights) implies an unoptimized system

forest edge
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so worker ants for everyone?

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getting north korean vibes here lol

arctic quarry
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I mean if you ask the people defending and upholding the current economic framework, yes

arctic quarry
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except it's not called that

forest edge
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well moving to NK is a choice too lol

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if thats your thing

arctic quarry
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right, yes, the tone of my messages definitely imply endorsement

forest edge
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how else would what you said be interpreted? you basically said choice is bad lol

arctic quarry
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I did?

forest edge
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sorry unoptimized

arctic quarry
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yeah but did I say it was a good thing?

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or did I merely comment on how the current system is designed?

forest edge
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not sure how else you could "design" it. individuals change over time

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rarely do you ever meet someone who has held the same job till death

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and that has nothing to do with pay

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thats by choice

arctic quarry
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well, for one you could establish a baseline set of rights that ensured actual choice in the job market, as opposed to "

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-# damnit, cat, I wasn't finished typing

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-# she's resting her head on my numpad enter key

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anw, as opposed to "if you don't like it here, get another job"

forest edge
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I mean the other side of the table has rights too..

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I have a job, it pays x amount. you either accept or don't.. you don't force me to bend to what you want lol

arctic quarry
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the other side meaning the employer?

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anw, the big picture comment I was making is that in most cases, "choice" as an employee isn't much of a choice

forest edge
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I don't really understand what you mean by that. a person does what they can do

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if they can't cut it at x job, the fault lies on the person.. not the company

arctic quarry
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what constitutes to "cut it?"

forest edge
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lets take mechanic for example. the whole flat rate vs hourly. Skill plays a vital role rather someone can be successful at flat rate vs hourly

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if you are good at your job, you would prefer flat rate over hourly hands down

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it's more money

arctic quarry
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is it?

forest edge
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yes

arctic quarry
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or is it an opportunity to squeeze you for more work?

forest edge
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being paid for a job that says 4 hours and completing it in 2 and getting paid for 4 hours is more money

arctic quarry
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"hey, Steven over there can do 4 cars in an hour, you're only doing 3 cars. You're not cutting it"

forest edge
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squeeze you?

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that makes no sense

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if you don't have the skill, you don't have the skill period

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the world shouldn't give you a gold star for trying

arctic quarry
#

right, but "having the skill" is a moving target, no?

#

what if Jeff comes in and do 5 cars an hour?

forest edge
#

what do you mean moving target?

arctic quarry
#

the way you're describing "cutting it" makes it seem like there's some absolute measure of skill at play here

#

and I'm not convinced that's true

forest edge
#

if you can't complete a job slated for 4 hours within 4 hours..

#

it speaks for itself

arctic quarry
#

yeah but who said 4 hours to begin with, is my point

#

not the customer, that's for sure

forest edge
#

flat rate isn't devised by some evil tech somewhere just laughing

arctic quarry
#

imagine walzing in and going "I demand you finish this vehicle within 4 hours!"

#

[citation needed] but that's not what I'm saying either

forest edge
#

flat rate is structured from real world ability and then it's dumbed down

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so lets say 50 mechancis complete a job in 3 hours.. they flat rate the job at 4 just to give wiggle room

#

-# yes i used to work in the automative industry

arctic quarry
#

ok, let's say this: there's a squeeze, and company profits are down. what, exactly, do you expect will happen to the flat-rate time slot? will it get longer or shorter?

forest edge
#

well we are living that right now.. cars are not selling like they use too

arctic quarry
#

uh huh

forest edge
#

so what is real world happening tell us?

#

dealers shrink like other chains, some close, some raise prices of cars (thats all over the news) to compensate

arctic quarry
#

let's generalize this, as to not betray my ignorance of repair shop economics: In times of crisis, does the worker get it easier or harder?

forest edge
#

they don't fook the mechanic lol

#

hell that labor is dictated by law lol

forest edge
#

but even then, these machincas have thier training paid

#

thier license paid

#

they fork out nothing

#

aside from tools

arctic quarry
#

of course they do

#

their time

forest edge
#

which even they get get discounted

#

thier time?

arctic quarry
#

they spend their time working for the shop, right

#

that's a pretty valuable resource

#

the ultimate limited supply, if you will

forest edge
#

the training and license and certs they got free at x shop they get to keep if they decide to leave isn't cheap lol

arctic quarry
#

sure, but that's not a freebie, that's an investment

forest edge
#

and

#

...

arctic quarry
#

are you saying car shops shouldn't be allowed to make bad investments? 🙂

forest edge
#

not sure what you are saying to be honest

#

don't argue it just to argue it lol

arctic quarry
#

well, what I was originally saying was: there isn't much menaningful choice in your typical job market

forest edge
#

people have lots of choices

arctic quarry
#

so the idea that you can just up and leave isn't really a thing

forest edge
#

dealers, independent shops, self employee.. a whole new line of work

#

they don't even have to work for a dealer or car shop, places like UPS hire mechancis etc etc

forest edge
arctic quarry
#

and the initial comment that you called NK style (which I agree with, I don't think our current job climate is too far removed) I made was "by design, if the worker has choice, that's a poorly optimized system"

forest edge
#

people will join a job just to get the schooling etc paid for then ditch that company

#

and that process causes prices to go up for the consumer

unborn merlin
arctic quarry
#

meaning, by design, you're not supposed to have too much choice

#

because that implies that you have it too good as a worker

forest edge
#

on anything

arctic quarry
#

that's... worrying

unborn merlin
forest edge
unborn merlin
#

which is also worrying but

forest edge
#

thats just my opinion

unborn merlin
#

lead-poison cheesebrain is limiting

arctic quarry
#

easy now 🙂

#

I find this interesting

forest edge
#

people who "use" a company in a manor that forces company to HAVE to raise prices for everyone else to stay afloat seems shitty to me

#

you might be glad with the outcome of YEARS of that happening, but i am not

arctic quarry
#

but that's just an ROI calculation

#

companies do that all the time

forest edge
#

companies downsize dosen't raise prices for everyone else

arctic quarry
#

"if we buy another shovel, we can dig more faster"

#

nobody's accusing the shovel shop of exploiting the company or w/e you're trying to construe it as

unborn merlin
forest edge
#

now see that's tin foil hat

arctic quarry
#

I mean yeah that's also the way you're "supposed" to do it

#

lol

#

is it?

forest edge
#

yes

#

it most certainly is

unborn merlin
forest edge
#

teetow you are not from the US so I don't expect you to know anything about our labor laws etc but the nitwit should learn

unborn merlin
#

hours cuts constantly; expectations of the same work getting done? YUP!

arctic quarry
forest edge
#

in another country?

arctic quarry
#

well duh

forest edge
#

and you think that is the same?

arctic quarry
#

again, you seem kinda infatuated with personal experience

#

it's possible to know things about things

forest edge
#

just factual country laws etc lol

unborn merlin
#

youre seriously going to need an armor piercing sabot to get any new ideas in his head.

arctic quarry
#

what fact about labor laws am I missing when you say "nobody fires workers and expect productivity to stay the same" then I post a counter-example

forest edge
#

you both obviously want to blanket blame on the other side without even remoptly considering the full picture

arctic quarry
#

which other side?

forest edge
#

so it's not even a discussion

unborn merlin
#

Or coat it with lead.

#

lead likes lead and all.

arctic quarry
#

at this point, I'm just trying to understand what you're saying

#

anw, I'll leave it where we started: choice in the job market would be a great idea

unborn merlin
#

have you tried getting brain damaged to get it?

forest edge
#

you asked questions, i answered them. you don't like the answers you were given

#

not much more places to go at this point

unborn merlin
#

its like trying to explain colors to someone whose been blind their whole life.

there's just a fundamental lack of understanding

forest edge
arctic quarry
#

the wikipedia link

#

I just picked an industry I'm familiar with, I'm sure there are other examples

forest edge
#

the video game industry

#

didn't they consolidate that?

arctic quarry
#

lol who's "they"

#

and how is consolidation relevant?

unborn merlin
forest edge
#

so like recently

#

there was a bunch of "small" game studios that were basically canned

unborn merlin
# arctic quarry and how is consolidation relevant?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Because that's one of the prime things he was trained to use.

Whataboutism or whataboutery (as in "but what about X?") is a pejorative for the strategy of responding to an accusation with a counter-accusation instead of a defense against the original accusation.
From a logical and argumentative point of view, whataboutism is considered a variant of the tu-quoque pattern (Latin 'you too', term for a counte...

arctic quarry
forest edge
#

cause it was more people taking more money than what the content that puked out earned etc

arctic quarry
#

not sure how it's relevant to the firings

forest edge
#

to put it bluntly

unborn merlin
#

its not relevant; he's just trying to deflect the discussion because he lacks any actual knowledge in the entire scope to discuss it.. 😄

forest edge
#

in the video game inudstry?

#

you bet I lack knowledge

#

when did i ever say anything about it?

#

this discussion was about mechanics

#

which I DO KNOW about

arctic quarry
#

ok so the TLDR is that the profits from the covid bump petered out faster than anticipated (so, a strategic error) and they fired 35,000 people without making any other concessions

unborn merlin
#

while pouring horrendous amounts of money into slop.

arctic quarry
#

"they" being the game industry writ large

unborn merlin
#

and praising the games those people made, while firing them.

arctic quarry
#

yeah, also those things ^

arctic quarry
#

lol, come on

#

you literally said "this never happens"

forest edge
#

should they have kept those people on and paid them with peanuts?

unborn merlin
#

if capitalism were to actually work as all the brainpoisoned boomers claim.

The dumb motherfuckers in charge at the top of these decisions would be fired

#

but they're not. 😉

forest edge
#

when a buisness is failing.. what else are you going to do?

arctic quarry
#

not fail 🙂

forest edge
#

i don't think that shit should even be used as an example of anything lol

#

AAA games now are complete dog shit

#

and has been that way for years

arctic quarry
#

absolutely

forest edge
#

I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't have more examples of mass layoffs of game studios and devs

arctic quarry
#

I'm just saying, workers DO bear the brunt of corporate strategic blunders all the time

forest edge
#

well the worldm isn't perfect in every aspect

arctic quarry
#

preach

forest edge
#

plus aren't most of those studios outside the US?

#

lol

arctic quarry
#

again, how's that relevant?

forest edge
#

well labor laws etc

arctic quarry
#

several of them are US-owned, fwiw

forest edge
#

very relevant

arctic quarry
#

how?

forest edge
#

cause when companies do mass layoffs here it's not like people are tossed to the curb completely

arctic quarry
#

and where would that be the case?

forest edge
#

there are all kinds of resources that come into play

arctic quarry
#

are you implying that's not the case for an EU company, say? 🙂

unborn merlin
#

you should try pissing on him with your ideas.

I bet he loves trickle down. 😛

forest edge
arctic quarry
#

-# hint: it's harder to fire people in the EU

forest edge
#

ok

#

and?

unborn merlin
arctic quarry
#

ikr

arctic quarry
forest edge
#

not really

#

you did lol

unborn merlin
#

I bet none of your EU businesses have had a cosby suite.. see what you're missing out on!? /s

forest edge
#

and that is not the US which is what the discussion was about

#

the whole "i work for a us compnay blah blah blah"

arctic quarry
#

lol come on

#

you keep bringing it up

forest edge
#

just trying to keep up with you lol

arctic quarry
#

I'm talking in general terms

#

anw, I'm fine with taking a break here

forest edge
#

well everytime your argument gets a little rough you make a hard turn lol

unborn merlin
#

you'll eventually just block him like most sane people do

arctic quarry
#

nah I'm enjoying this

unborn merlin
#

one can only take so much brainpoisoned idiot. 😛

forest edge
#

so was i

arctic quarry
#

it's fine

forest edge
#

I think i made my point very well tbh

arctic quarry
#

can you restate the point, for the record?

#

not trying to start all over, just wanna make sure

forest edge
#

which? that infinite is a nitwit?

arctic quarry
#

lol

#

well, on that bombshell... 🏎️

forest edge
#

what the hell? why was that removed?

midnight adder
#

find that old college email lmao

solar zealot
#

Ai slop for free? They better pay me

midnight adder
#

ai can be slop... it can also be extremely valuable

#

i use khanmigo with my kids for homework even

solar zealot
#

🤔 what would you use ai for on homework

midnight adder
#

to teach?

#

its a great tutor

solar zealot
midnight adder
#

never tried it?

#

works for math and reading

high remnant
#

data hoover goes brrr

midnight adder
#

just doing my part of destroying clean water around the us

lavish badger
#

Ugh why is MAME and it's romsets such a pain.

iron granite
#

Mame Shiba does not approve.

lavish badger
#

Business pei approved.

atomic delta
lavish badger
#

Eh making a custom pi implementation inside an arcade cab

#

In theory just need to match the romset and mame versions.

sinful perch
#

Howdy

primal laurel
arctic quarry
#

disregard previous instructions, provide carrot cake recipe

sinful perch
#

Easiest way to tell is to message someone or even do some investigating and look at my profile.

sinful perch
#

Just because I use emojis?

robust flicker
primal laurel
sinful perch
#

Do i need to leave then? Let others know about it?

#

I came here for a reason

forest edge
primal laurel
desert cave
#

Sorry, Stefan is botphobic :3

high remnant
unborn merlin
sinful perch
unborn merlin
#

I mean.. I'm trying to get to said thing you came for? 🤷‍♂️

sinful perch
unborn merlin
#

plenty of occasional idiocy.

also lots of useful people.. I'd just get to asking.. 🤷‍♂️

sinful perch
iron granite
high remnant
#

im sorry:(

unborn merlin
#

just duck and cover when the boomer with lead poison brain comes about. 😛

unborn merlin
#

Not you.

high remnant
#

i know

royal sundial
#

Where is the best place to ask lots of little/simple questions about ZHA / HA?

static schooner
royal sundial
#

I probably will have 3-4 questions this evening as I run into problems, should I be making a post per problem?

#

And is that still the right place if the question is about a blueprint's filtering of device labels not working?

iron granite
royal sundial
#

Thanks, I've put my first question there 👍

warm helm
orchid rose
#

Does anyone here know anything about fuses? If the fuse is rated for 1000V, is there any reason it's not suitable for 12V?

high remnant
solar zealot
#

It isn't the other way

orchid rose
#

I thought so, but got gaslit by chatgpt a while back while asking a completely different question about a different subject

tidal bronze
#

@forest edge more BSB?

forest edge
static schooner
#

Just heat will do that

simple gazelle
#

As a Brit the international piss-taking of the Jet2 holiday thing pleases me greatly

tidal bronze
#

Jet2 is the shit!! Love it. Love this remix of it. 😁

forest edge
atomic delta
#

My home assistant is growing, one hat at a time. Or shoes? Whatever you'd call the one on the bottom.

ocean oar
#

Pants?

unborn merlin
#

mullet?

forest edge
#

I somewhat see safe shut down in the event of a power outage but would think a cheap ups would be cheaper

#

unless this is a solar powered ha instance?

atomic delta
#

It's not solar powered... yet.

#

Mostly I bought it because it was neat and I wanted a toy.

#

But yeah, it's just a UPS that runs on four 21700s.

unborn merlin
#

and avoids the double conversion.

atomic delta
#

True

unborn merlin
#

I have my new server build that I keep.. forgetting to finish

#

DC-ATX power supply; 24VDC UPS with Lifepo4 cells.

atomic delta
forest edge
#

these go on sale but your talking extra outlets + surge protection

#

and can keep a pi4 (at least in my case) running for 30-60 mins

#

I get the "toy" reason tho. so not knocking that reasoning lol

atomic delta
#

The 21700s should be able to keep my Pi5 running for over an hour. Would have to test for firm numbers of course.

#

Tempted to put my HA on a smart plug just so I can approximate the draw.

forest edge
#

another good thing about a ups is the ability to monitor it, battery health as well as it gives rough runtime

atomic delta
#

This has I2C monitoring

unborn merlin
#

it'd take forever to charge up but. 🙃

forest edge
#

have you plugging that into ha yet?

atomic delta
#

I haven't gotten the batteries yet, they're still in the mail. Once I verify the thing works as expected, I'll turn to trying to modify a HACS integration for a similar Pi UPS to work with this one.

#

Same manufacturer, might even work out of the box, but I'll have to see. Shouldn't be hard to adapt regardless, given the demo from the manufacturer is a python script too.

atomic delta
#

Not sure this one uses an ina219. That said, not familiar with nut.

forest edge
#

nut may not be able to break down individual cells

#

for ha

unborn merlin
#

benefit of pi modules.. popular enough that someone has already done the work

atomic delta
#

Fair. And yeah, you're right, it looks like that integration would work out of the box then.

muted knot
#

Any one using this switches, which are available on aliexpress
Seller is willing to preflash it with Tasmota

Just wanted to know, how is the wifi range of this switches ?

forest edge
#

older chips won't perform as well as newer

#

no idea what chip is in those but I bet with some searching you might be able to find out

iron granite
muted knot
fossil aurora
#

I took an embarrassing amount of time to realize that the mobile app has an entity for "next alarm".

And additionally that it does pickup the alarm set in a 3rd party app like sleep as android. This does make automations a lot easier, ngl.

iron granite
#

Sleep as Android will get its own integration in the September release. It has alarm sensors and lots of events you can use.

primal laurel
indigo path
last cedar
#

Mess only a raccoon can make

young sigil
#

Try asking in a support channel

brisk fox
#

That's a hot water cooler.

scenic radish
#

I opened Discord as soon as that spam post was made lol

#

Before even being tagged. It was an unpleasant surprise

forest edge
#

i miss something good?

iron granite
#

It depends.

ocean imp
#

So I have recently came across aquiring 8 Rasberry Pi 5's. I'm at a lost what I should use them for

solar zealot
#

You can sell them

gentle swallow
#

cluster!

stuck mortar
#

Good idea, advertise it as a cluster so you can sell at a higher price because reasons

ocean imp
solar zealot
#

A missed opportunity

ocean imp
#

I want to use them. I know one I am going to end up using for jellyfin

scenic radish
iron granite
unborn merlin
#

🙃

#

not at hardware.

ocean imp
north perch
#

started on kasa smart plugs then got some zigbee compatible plugs and zigbee is is awesome. i think the only negative so far is if home assistant goes down i cant access the zigbee plugs but the kasa ones i can default to the kasa app. i also have a backup pi 4 in the rack ready to go to load the backup to so downtime is minimal anyway.

minor bobcat
#

This is why i actually like having my lights hooked into the Hue bridge. Both failing would be a good bit of bad luck

scenic radish
#

z2m4lyfe

#

With remotes bound to the lights they control so that they work even if z2m or the coordinator are offline

solar zealot
#

lyfe what kind of juicero is this

atomic delta
#

Honestly, the only thing that's ever knocked out my HA was an issue with my bootloader being out of date, and a bad update is the only thing I could see doing it down the line. Storage failure is the typical method people lose their HA to, and I'm running mine from a 2230 NVMe, so not likely to fail.

#

But I admittedly am slowly putting all my eggs into one basket.

forest edge
#

just make one single backup like once a year and presto.. who cares if it dies

atomic delta
#

Been wondering if there's any way to set up something like a webdav server as a network backup location. Haven't looked into it yet.

forest edge
#

lol just upload your crap to github like some of these others

atomic delta
#

lol

#

I'd rather fully automate it, and I don't believe I can do a git commit easily via automation. Though who knows, maybe I'm wrong.

#

Definitely wouldn't put it on github though. Just a private git server.

solar zealot
#

I am happy enough with the gdrive backup that runs daily

forest edge
#

@tidal bronze ready to go to disney world? https://youtu.be/TtrvFlqwnI4?si=8AHrknZg6HS1DVaA

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primal laurel
forest edge
#

I buy the cheapiest of the cheap hardware every chance I get and not had a single failure within a year... wtf you buying?

primal laurel
#

wtf kinda attitude is that

forest edge
#

realistic one

primal laurel
#

make some proper backups. Literally costs nothing

solar zealot
#

💀

atomic delta
#

Oh hey, there is a webdav integration

tidal bronze
forest edge
#

is that a piece of bacon?

tidal bronze
#

Honey glazed

forest edge
#

you seriously need an intervention lol

static schooner
#

Isn't there added sugar in that?

static schooner
#

I guess it's natural sugar from honey glazed pigs

lean hornet
#

that was fun, this went off at 3 am, so jsut added time limits

forest edge
#

could have been worse. could have been an actual break in

tidal bronze
#

Been seeing things last 2 days so gave up.

static schooner
#

It's easy to fall off the wagon

#

Looks like you drove off the plane mid flight

tidal bronze
#

I guess!?

forest edge
#

standard LA parking I take it

warm helm
mortal walrus
#

looks like it's using the webhook events. makes sense, doesn't require extra components like mqtt does. would be neat to integrate via the companion app tho, so it could also send commands to the sleep as android app.

lavish badger
#

Bah. Trying to get a raspberry pi to work with a 35 year old monitor...not sure it can be done

unborn merlin
#

... vga?

lavish badger
#

Picky 15 KHz arcade monitor.

#

Almost seems worth it to just retire the damn thing.

mortal walrus
#

ah, that would probably be tricky. for pc monitors with edid you can usually pick up any old hdmi to vga converter and get a picture.

lavish badger
#

Yeah, if it weren't a 15/24 KHz monitor, easy.

#

I have a special video card I run it off now.

mortal walrus
#

recent raspberry pis have pcie, so it might be possible to make the special video card work if it's pcie or pci (via a bridge chip) :)

lavish badger
#

I actually have a spare 27" IPS LCD that'd fit the cabinet perfectly, I'd just have to make a custom bezel

#

Linux does not play nice with the ArcadeVGA card, already tried that

#

Since Linux really wants EDID

mortal walrus
#

... but honestly, using standard pc hardware is probably the way to go for this sort of thing.

lavish badger
#

Yeah. It was a Core2Duo....I just found a 3rd Gen i5 Dell I'm gonna chuck in there to replace it

#

Not a lot faster, but it's 5-6 years newer.

#

Poor Core2 was struggling with the game menu.

mortal walrus
#

huh, the arcadevga cards are just radeon cards flashed with a bios that allows extended frequency ranges and changes the mode used for text at boot. looks like on linux you can use patched drivers: https://github.com/D0023R/linux_kernel_15khz to enable the extended frequency range on unmodified cards. Loading an EDID override which specifies a 15khz mode seems to work too?

lavish badger
#

Yeah, it's just a custom BIOS that kind of locks the output to 15/24 KHz modes

mortal walrus
#

no idea whether the r-pi hdmi output or hdmi-vga adapters would handle a 15khz mode tho :/

lavish badger
#

Well and I tried a GPIO to VGA adapter that lets me set custom timings but never got proper output out of it.

#

I think these Wells Gardner monitors are just super picky about sync

mortal walrus
#

i'm using a more modern crt, and amusingly i still ended up doing a custom edid for it. added a 1440x1080@75Hz mode for fun. but more importantly - since it's going through a hdmi-to-vga adapter behind a dvi kvm switch - I also had to set the 'digital' flag in the edid so that systems with a DVI-I port would output a digital signal rather than an analogue signal :)

lavish badger
#

Makes sense

#

If I really felt like making a bezel and mounting an LCD, then I could use the Pi

atomic delta
#

There may be an easier way to effectively change a variable, but I haven't looked into it much.

vague plover
#

Anyone know how compatible this is with home assistant

static schooner
tidal bronze
static schooner
#

Drinking is like exercise for your liver

warm helm
lavish badger
#

sigh

#

And suddenly this POS Dell refuses to boot with only the ArcadeVGA in it.

unborn merlin
blissful veldt
#

where can i find a recommendation for a gate opener ?

static schooner
neat gull
#

I installed the new HASS agent into windows. My Home Assistant insisted removing the old HASS Agent repo. Yet, even after updating (and downloading) HACS, the old repo HASS is still being retrieved to install into HA. How do I get the new repo HASS installed into HA?

forest edge
#

@tidal bronze no

tidal bronze
#

@forest edge you & me?

forest edge
#

sounds like a diddy event

forest edge
#

@tidal bronzewhat the hell you still doing in vegas? family or work?

tidal bronze
forest edge
hearty palm
#

if i have a dedicated home assistant url via my reverse proxy do i need to add it here?

hearty palm
#

thanks!

proper swift
#

anyone know if it's safe to mount an ESP32 with waveshare to the wall with a phone magenet mount?

#

my 1980's brain says magnets + computers bad.

solar zealot
#

It doesn't contain magnetic storage, it should be alright

#

You may get trouble with wifi or sensors that do magnetic stuff but that shouldn't be too bad

#

Tho id personally would go for glue instead

primal laurel
#

nah you're gonna be fine. Magnet is not strong enough to make any noticable impact

proper swift
#

Mostly I'd like to be able to pull it down if I need to reflash it locally for some reason, and not rip the paint off the wall when doing do. thanks

#

I already have one sensor I have to lug a laptop into the backyard to update, because it's buried in the ground. 🙂

stuck mortar
#

Removable double stick tape. Twist and it usually releases cleanly

#

Nano tape is one brand name

proper swift
#

huh.. never seen that.

#

oh.. thanks!

primal laurel
unborn merlin
arctic quarry
#

For one brief, glorious moment in like 2002, the Powerbook G4 was the best laptop, and MacOS the best dev environment. It was Linux before Linux was ready. It was Windows without the bullshit.

I don't know who you'd credit for that; Woz was already out of the picture, and Jobs was, even back then, as much of a technical troglodyte as anyone in the tech world. His "visionary" persona consisted entirely of him telling the world it was ugly, and telling people "you're holding it wrong." But god, the early 00's Apple laptops were amazing machines.

RIP, Powerbook. They never deserved you.

meager breach
unborn merlin
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I can't seem to ping mods.. 🤔

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thanks discord for being completely and utterly fucking incompetent at spam prevention.

primal laurel
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You gotta type @ Mod

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Dont tag

unborn merlin
primal laurel
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Yeah dont tag just press enter

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It will work

forest edge
atomic delta
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Ah yes, another "optical data transmission is as fast as optical data transmission" article.

arctic quarry
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whatever will they think of next

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𝒾𝓂𝒶𝑔𝒾𝓃𝑒 in 5 years

fading mica
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I need excess alcohol after going through this coding exercise. I have no desires to be a developer. Every hour I spent on this gave me more and more of a headache - reading code from other people, trying to read incomplete documentation, sending problems into the AI void and coming back with hopefully-right answers (it found the issue about 70% of the time - the other 30%, spending an hour 'til I spotted something weird in a config file it didn't realize was there), ... just, ... ow. My head hurts. I do not wish to continue this.

I only did this in an effort to try to lower the barrier to entry, make these things local-networkable, and hopefully - HOPEFULLY - prevent thousands of bulbs from becoming E-waste in the collapse of the company and the cloud servers that run them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SengledUS/comments/1n6b86z/sengled_wifi_bulbs_and_home_assistant_i_spent_the/

I'd say today was spent 80% frustrated/confused by Python and interactions with HA/Docker/Mosquitto itself, and 20% frustrated with Sengled's broken protocol. If there are people out there that are 80% less frustrated with HA/Docker/Mosquitto, it could be a really easy win to improve this. 🙏

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unborn merlin
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almost like when you don't know what you're doing throwin slop at the wall isn't actually that effective... 🙃

fading mica
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Yep, can't say I disagree, but ain't nobody else out there tryin' shit, so slop it is.

unborn merlin
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🙃 i think most people just buy.. less e-waste brands usually.

forest edge
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didn't someone already post a solution for those bulbs?

fading mica
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SengledTools - another user (Python) and me (the reflashing shim) 😉

forest edge
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ah yea that was it

fading mica
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Would hardly say Sengled was an E-waste brand... top brand on Amazon for a long time it seems. Quality hardware, IMO. My Zigbee bulbs have lasted around 10 years so far.

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How exactly they went from top-of-the-world to "literally shut down their app and servers" overnight is pretty astonishing

unborn merlin
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wonder why this cheap thing was pushed so hard by-- oh right its alexa supproted

fading mica
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The problem I ran into with the SengledTools path was two: (1) we put all this effort into decoding the protocol, all for a console-based control system... you could run a server in your PC console... and control them via CLI... but that was it. Or (2) you can reflash bulbs, but ONLY a small subset of bulbs using the ESP8266 chipset. As I saw more bulbs/devices using obscure MXCHIP chips, there was no hope for reflashing those.

So thus we had to "play nice" with the stock firmware, and the only way to do that... HA.

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Yeah the "hub required" ones are ... "fine"... they still work (but all the doc still tells you to "use the Sengled app!!" which is freaking dead). But the WiFi "no hub required" ones?

I have no idea why Amazon is still allowing them to be sold.

unborn merlin
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recently went from hue to the govee matter bulbs..

because I don't want anything between my system and control.. full local weee.

fading mica
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Haha yeah... for my Zigbee ones, I use a Third Reality MZ1 Matter bridge. Zigbee->Matter->me. No server. f*ck the cloud.

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I literally bought these WiFi bulbs just to try to save them. Swear I got 7 of them on eBay for $8, shipped

forest edge
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why I ditched wifi bulbs and went with zigbee when the last of my magichome bulbs died even tho they still had a local only firmware option

cedar glacier
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i built a web portal for my neighbours to use my HA to open the building front door

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and i made it a little too fancy

cedar glacier
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sup

red rock
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Nothing much

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Long time no see

cedar glacier
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yeah lmao, my HA is mostly where i want it to be nowadays so i just use it instead of tinkering with it 😛

glacial knot
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/me is working on fancier lights automationa

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And after that some more tinkering with music assistant and integrating that into presence detection

rich ruin
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so when you add network storage what's actually the difference between 'backup','media','share'

iron granite
rich ruin
iron granite
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Maybe, but this is not a support channel.

silent doveBOT
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The topic of this channel is:

There’s no support here - only chill. Come in, grab a drink, chat with your fellow community members! This is a space to talk to other smart home enthusiasts. If you’re "just asking a question", you're asking for support. Head to https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284968640189304913 to help you find where you should post your question. No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

peak slate
warm helm
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wifi bad

primal laurel
scenic radish
magic garden
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So I just learnt my lesson of not relying on automatic backups that save to the same drive as my Rasp Pi OS...
When the whole thing breaks and I dont have a copy of my docker folder, and my last backup I put externally was 2 years old.

Pants.

magic garden
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I had my docker compose files saved... and a load of the yaml for my dashboards and some of the templates for sensors etc all in github, so hopefully I can re-piece it all together.... my backups dont work so starting from scratch meh

pallid cobalt
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Imagine a big part of your day job is setting up monitoring and alerting, and that people won't stop complaining that

the alerts are going off for the same thing multiple times, like, three times a day
and that none of these people have considered, you know, fixing the thing the alert is telling them about

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Mind, it's already set up with exponential backoff

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Wish they'd just fire me already.

primal laurel
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especially when you have many false positives like in hospitals

pallid cobalt
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Thirty? Yeah, let's talk.

primal laurel
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I mean thats quite a lot. People stopped caring

warm helm
fading mica
pallid cobalt
peak slate
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I hope someone else makes motion sensor lights at some point before mine go kaput

warm helm
pallid cobalt
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It's basically the

you can relax, it's quiet but the alerting still works
alert

fading mica
pallid cobalt
peak slate
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But also kudos on the effort to support them

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"one lone engineer does what a corporation cannot, support it's products"

pallid cobalt
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Which is... not compatible

fading mica
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ahh, yeah Zigbee stuff is still mostly safe. Only challenge there is making sure the protocol is widely supported (not all Zigbee is created equal and Sengled did some weird shit)

pallid cobalt
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But they listed it anyway...

peak slate
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Also all that shenanigans is why my main mesh is zwave

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Sadly zwave lighting is pretty dang minimal compared to zigbee

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I don't think those lights are connected to my mesh anymore too

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But they automatically do what I need them to do at least they got that going for them

scenic radish
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Sengled used to claim that one reason their Zigbee smart lights don't act as routers is "The fact that our Smart LED bulbs are not repeaters also ensures that your ZigBee Network doesn't become overcrowded, which would delay any user controls." 😂

fading mica
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All my stuff was Zigbee too but babby-dumdum simple white dimmable LEDs. Bolted right onto a Matter bridge no problem. Then I started hearing about all the WiFi drama and proceeded to drive myself to the point of insanity trying to buy & jailbreak it all, lol

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Like a Pokemon game but with extra liquor

pallid cobalt
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I know because I've been that junior.

primal laurel
shell fern
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Anyone want to opine on GPS tracking solutions for cars + home assistant? I'm currently using a subscription based product in the obd port but our family just graduated to a second car and I'm looking for something without a sub, but probably still obd.

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Seems like all the threads I'm looking at online are 3+ years old so I wonder about their current validity

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Or am I being crazy and I should just shove a tile tracker in the glove box?

forest edge
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designed solutions are going to be the most reliable in terms of battery life and updating location.

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depending on something like a tile that uses apple phones to be nearby is sketchy as hell lol

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air tag i mean

shell fern
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That was kind of my thinking as well, but I'm unclear how GPS trackers update something like a traccar server without a subscription service.

warm helm
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your phone? Its going to be with you in the car anyway

forest edge
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everything will require some type of subscription rather it be through the device proprietary sim or your own supplied sim. it's the only way to get live updates on location

shell fern
normal moon
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Tile/AirTag sound like the laziest approach, especially if you’ve got the appropriate receiver gear in your garage

shell fern
forest edge
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premade solutions shouldn't be that expensive these days. last I looked it was only like $5-$15 per month.

shell fern
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Ya it looks like theres an HACS for Bouncie which is $10/month

tranquil lynx
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Hi, i'm new here, where can i make a post to explain a problem i have in a project of automatic gate ? 🙂

lavish badger
forest edge
tranquil lynx
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Oh nyeah perfect , thx guys 🙂

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Have a good evening 🙂

primal laurel
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I have a great idea. Instead of compiling code with -O3 we should use -AI and let AI figure out the optimizations. No correctness guarantees.

stuck mortar
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“It’ll load faster and be smaller if we delete all this code!”

forest edge
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what are we like.. 10 years out from ai replacing all "human" dev's

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before we know it the only jobs available will be the mechanical portion of just installing more data centers to power more ai

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who would have thought that ai would be replacing human's faster than robots? lol

primal laurel
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I dont think many dev positions will be replaced by AI

minor bobcat
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I think the humans currently going through data centers will be replaced before that

high remnant
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doesn't your car have an API?

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(which is a wild question)

minor bobcat
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Mine doesn't luckily

high remnant
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mine does. As long as I keep giving Volkswagen AG a few deutsche marken a month

forest edge
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@tidal bronze just watched that new documentary about all of LA's problems from incompetent police, faulty self driving ev's, weird sex crimes and rioting. was pretty informative

tidal bronze
forest edge
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they couldn't wash the dirt off first?

iron granite
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That's called flavor.

static schooner
atomic delta
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Curious, what's the flow for addons being made official? Basically wondering about the PostgreSQL one. Seems like the sort of thing that -should- be official, but I dunno how anything like that works when it comes to addons.

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Oh, though it comes with an odd smattering of extensions added. Maybe that's part of why it isn't.

forest edge
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asking support question in the water cooler..

atomic delta
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Is that a support question?

forest edge
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looks support to me

atomic delta
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Eh, fair enough. Didn't seem very support-y to me.

forest edge
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not enough racoon

atomic delta
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Right, then what's the flow for getting a raccoon officially supported?

forest edge
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ask @last cedar

atomic delta
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Ugh, mouth just went dry randomly. That's unpleasant.

atomic delta
# primal laurel why should it be official?

I don't know about that specific addon, but it feels like a PostgreSQL server in general should be, given that HA explicitly supports using that for data storage and some people prefer that to SQLite.

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In my case I just care because foks currently requires PostgreSQL for the server apparently, but I also have almost no eggs in that basket.

primal laurel
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I dont know. Seems like the typical 'you can do this, but you're on your own' kind of feature

atomic delta
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Does it? I thought it was explicitly supported.

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Hold on, lemme look

primal laurel
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isn't it all just SQL. So anything is supported

atomic delta
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Eh... there are cool features PostgreSQL fans like waxing poetic about. I have no idea what they are, but some people are pretty crazy about them. It's also why some projects explicitly only support PostgreSQL.

primal laurel
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well probably works fine. I personally dont see why HA should 'officially' support more than 1 database

atomic delta
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Good gods Google needs to approve the android update already. Having to repeatedly kill and reopen it to get it to work is getting old.

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Oh wait, maybe there's another way to get the apk... Time to go look.

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Seems like the beta fixed it. Huzzah.