the-water-cooler

[static schooner]

I don't want to see Ned die again!

[tidal bronze]

That's the worst scene ever!

Trying to find reasons and chatgpt is not helping here!

[forest edge]

shouldn't that say instead of getting from the grid?

oh wait.. that scenario has the grid charging the battery?

why in the f would anyone do that

[tidal bronze]

I run data now and then to get some level of justification to get batteries, but no go. NG backup it is.

[forest edge]

oh in the event of a power failure

[tidal bronze]

Yes. I collect about 1k in the NEM bank every year. So was thinking about swithing from NG to Battery backup

[forest edge]

you could combo it. like put in one of those generiacs that can run off 3 diffrent type of fuels and enough batteries to run for like 24 hours or something. that way you spend less on batteries but still use those for those short power outages and if it goes longer then the generiac kicks in

[tidal bronze]

That's actually a brilliant idea.

[forest edge]

yea I already thought all this shit through for the farm lol

[static schooner]

is one of the three fuels liquified raccoon?

you gotta put them to good use

[forest edge]

that be nice

[tidal bronze]

Fossil fuel eh?

@forest edge I might take your route.

[forest edge]

NG is still cheaper than electricity so you could just use the generica to recharge and keep those batteries topped off rather than the grid too

[static schooner]

aren't they loud and annoying?

[tidal bronze]

nopes.

[forest edge]

not so much these days

they got all super fancy

if I build a house out at the farm a generac is a necessity

[tidal bronze]

Even with a 40kwh battery bank, at full load I will get only ~3 hours

I am going to stick to NG for now. Get a small bat for essential

[forest edge]

how long are your typical black outs?>

[tidal bronze]

Not had one in about 10 years. Of course the now and then few sec load change overs

[forest edge]

so you only need battery for those few seconds?

[tidal bronze]

Was thinking about battery, "just in case"

But does not make sense for my use case

[forest edge]

if those load change overs actually kill the power in your house enough to trigger the generac then you are going to want to do a battery buffer. not good for those things to start and stop over and over

[tidal bronze]

Don't notice it but UPS units trigger.

[forest edge]

oh well then you should be fine

those generacs don't trip as easily as home ups

wish plex added a gpu table to the dashboard so I can see it's usage

[queen galleon]

Sweet

[tidal bronze]

Get that from nvidia smi

What a beautiful Wednesday 🍷! Anything is possible today 😀

[scenic radish]

Alright I'm not saying I'm some kind of genius or anything, but my god, some of my clients and coworkers have absolutely no troubleshooting skills

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-weve-tried-nothing-tried-nothing-nothing-were-all-out-of-ideas-gif-22788553

[scenic radish]

for real

something unexpected happened... let's just ask Tediore

[forest edge]

I run glances so I can see it in that but still would be nice to be in the plex dashboard

[grizzled orbit]

hellooooo

i love you all

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/idiocracy-idiocracy-costco-costco-welcome-to-costco-costco-i-love-you-gif-14458905082678662672

[queen galleon]

huh, even without card-mod or browser mod, i am still getting memory leaks

[dusty mica]

Running MusicAssistant?

[queen galleon]

nope

[dusty mica]

installed GLANCES addon? here you can check what memory is increasing

[queen galleon]

its not the server's memory that is increasing

its firefox's

also in chrome

[dusty mica]

Ok, had problem with MA, but seems not related to your problem. Hope someone can help.

[undone flower]

Got a great corpus for training a new piper voice https://m.soundcloud.com/ericwbailey/rfc-2119

(super sarcasm)

[vagrant forum]

Do you use auto-entities? Same issue there to be fixed. Also there are some issues noted in Frontend where users are getting history graphs continually updating. Can’t replicate, but if such continue updating happens, the could also be memory leak as Home Assistant itself will suffer from continuous use of Promise.race where a Promise does not resolve. Under normal use Promise.race will still be leaking but it’s called once or twice on navigation. card-mod calls it all the time (now fixed with using a safe race function).

[forest edge]

the norwegian way huh

[unborn merlin]

lul

[glacial knot]

How is 50-60 interviews passive?

Also, assuming 8h days
What kinda short interview is this?

[clear ferry]

Have you seen the predatory American work life?

[unborn merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/america-hurricane-happy4th-of-july-america-flag-independence-day-gif-21259025

[blissful zodiac]

Very helpful

[iron granite]

🆗

-# Error solved

[clear ferry]

task successfully failed

[forest edge]

have you?

[clear ferry]

Yes

We actually get news from other countries

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze you guys just can't escape the flames can you? https://youtu.be/i_wEugbGxWM?si=1dvEMvEJuleiTeTh

[forest edge]

yea we know what "news" you get lul https://s3.amazonaws.com/media.mediapost.com/dam/cropped/2019/03/19/bezos-natenquirer-560.JPEG

[clear ferry]

That just looks like a self burn

[crisp oriole]

Good god... i need to do something for a funeral. Lets use home assistant for that....

[queen galleon]

Kinda suspected that

[crisp oriole]

O well best way to get a QR directly as a widget on an android phone to download music.

[queen galleon]

ive done a purge of the hacs modules i dont use, including auto-entities, so lets see if it goes away

edit: nope

[elfin fog]

Is Home Assistant really missing timezone for Slovenia?

Last time I checked Slovenia is still a coutry with their own timezone rules (in summer GMT+2 otherwise GMT+1)

[iron granite]

The HA timezones are selected by cities within that timezone. Likely not every country has its capital city represented. You can select any of those from the same timezone (for example: it doesn't matter if Berlin or Brussels is chosen - as long as they follow the same daylight saving time rythm).

[primal laurel]

it's all CET anyway in W europe

[elfin fog]

Still this is the first time I saw a project with missing timezone for Slovenia (Ljubljana).

Doing a research which country has the same daylight saving time (starting and ending on the same days) is not user friendly.

Isn't there tz-data library or some similar name with all timezones provided that most distros comes with it?

[silent dove]

Want to see what issues are open (or were open and are now closed)?

• The core (backend) - for HA itself, and integrations
• The frontend (UI) - for cards and display issues
• The Supervisor
• HAOS
• The documentation

Don't forget to check for any alerts

If you think an upgrade broke something then:

1. Downgrade to the previous version to check if it works correctly there
2. If it does then change the logger settings for that integration to debug
3. Upgrade to the new version again
4. Look in the logs for errors
5. Open an issue, following the template provided and including the log information

[primal laurel]

typically the system reads a list of available timezones and then just presents that list to you. I think you can make an issue for it on github (in core)

[queen galleon]

looks like apex charts has await Promise.all
may have been one of my extensions acting up actually

[reef bolt]

anyone notice in 2025.7 that raw editor you can't search?

[clear ferry]

What about the cooked editor?

[solar zealot]

the rawrr editor?

I felt that's like perfect already

[red rock]

Just a little more hair than the normal one

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/furry-furries-fursuit-furry-hugs-hug-gif-24086340

[dawn marlin]

[iron granite]

Furry, not fury

[pure tusk]

Anyone else having some automations editting lag like hell now with latest stable release?

Its like my cpu is overloaded

[static schooner]

#find-support

[reef bolt]

im using a picture card - I never could update the tab - I had to raw edit it but I can't even do that

I had to copt the entire thing out and modify and paste back in

because I can't find stuff in that editor

what file is the raw configuration?

[static schooner]

also: #find-support

[silent dove]

The topic of this channel is:

There’s no support here - only chill. Come in, grab a drink, chat with your fellow community members! This is a space to talk to other smart home enthusiasts. If you’re looking for support and unsure where to go, check out https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284968640189304913 - it should help you find where you are going. This channel isn't for 'quick questions' - see above and post in the appropriate place. No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

[scenic radish]

Wtf is the point of this lmao

[static schooner]

I wonder how they manage the "battery powered" part

[solar zealot]

More in #1275551190347943937

[static schooner]

binging would like a word

[solar zealot]

[lone dagger]

everyone who has no access to that:

for those with FOMO

[static schooner]

I think there's somethign to be said for not having to route a bundle of cables through a wall to the TV, but power seems like a must (and is just an outlet), and are walls that a suction cup would reliably stick to a thing in most homes?

or are houses with smooth glass walls in vogue now?

sounds like some sort of porn house

[primal laurel]

#the-water-cooler message

[solar zealot]

Oh right discord changed that to show no-access or something

Ugh ruining the joke

[iron granite]

Horstexplorer is leaking our secrets

[static schooner]

the first rule about furries is...

[lone dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/you're-welcome-you're-welcome-gif-681815014536556973

[reef bolt]

get one and let us know

[dawn badge]

its cool, its obviously not designed for home use though

[static schooner]

is there any actual use for it?

[lone dagger]

Tech bros who want the most sterile looking environment?

[static schooner]

it's like several separate ideas thrown together in a demo, but hard to imagine where it would be used

[lone dagger]

You just summed up the current state of the tech industry really well.

[static schooner]

like if you're parked with an RV somewhere and want to stick it to the side of the RV?

and just want to use Airplay or something?

[solar zealot]

Me

Like literally

[static schooner]

it's actually how I imagine @tidal bronze house to be

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-meme-furry-awkward-xd-gif-22264874

[static schooner]

It's MY ball

[solar zealot]

The chic ruins it a bit I know

more less colored stuff please

[forest edge]

that suction cup tv is brilliant. make something that "sticks" to a wall and make it battery powered so it falls off said wall and breaks

[static schooner]

that's what I'm saying - who has walls that would work with that?

[solar zealot]

Planned obsolescence but it's not just software bricked

[lone dagger]

Fun fact: You can do this without their fancy TV.

[forest edge]

well smooth walls isn't uncommon

[solar zealot]

What happened to Sonoma s name lol

[forest edge]

upgrade

[static schooner]

smooth enough that the vacuum doesn't dissipate, though.

seems like you would need to stick smooth discs to the wall for the TV to stick to first

[tidal bronze]

Sure someone will throw that with a HA "DASHBOARD" 😀

[forest edge]

i'm sure it auto re-sucks as needed

[static schooner]

seems problematic for the battery runtime

[solar zealot]

It's definitely sucking

[forest edge]

thats why they likely added a super loud and annoying buzzard to let you know when the battery is low

[static schooner]

I expect it woudl have a hard enough time keeping the TV running for a while

[tidal bronze]

So in addition to Netflix asking "are you still there" this will add time to charge battery

[static schooner]

Indeed

your battery is about to run out just before we find out who the murderer is...

[forest edge]

that tv's existence was made for the, "because we could" category. wasn't last years a fish tank tv or something?

[tidal bronze]

Sidebar, anyone using predictive cooling?

[forest edge]

like applying ice before stubbing your toe?

[solar zealot]

So while you are hitting on a girl the TV may be hitting on you

Seems like an interesting concept for modern arts

Also you can tell your kids that watching too much tv will break the bloddy thing

[static schooner]

yeah, good strategy for getting kids to bed

sorry, the TV died, time for bed

[tidal bronze]

Not really. Monitoring outdoor temp gain rate and cooling before

[forest edge]

many thermostats do that already

[tidal bronze]

Yeah right

[forest edge]

my honeyweel does

honeywell

[static schooner]

not just based on your schedule?

Nest kinda started the trend of pre-heating/cooling based on when you might be home to care

[tidal bronze]

I am talking about dynamic monitoring

[forest edge]

it precools to maintain using an outside and inside temp sensor

or preheats

[tidal bronze]

How is the outdoor temp sensor connected to your controller?

[forest edge]

it's wireless

redlink or whatever they call it

[tidal bronze]

So you don't have any swings at all

[forest edge]

well I have a split level home. swings are unavoidable lol

but it does try

[tidal bronze]

So if you set 75, and rise rate is 2deg it will go down to 73 for the expected 79

[forest edge]

well its a little more complicated since I use the indoor sensors.. but yes

but it depends what the outside temp is

[tidal bronze]

So changes the set point dynamically throughout the day?

[forest edge]

you can't see that on the display just like I can't see the differences when it tries to average out the house as a whole but yes

its the whole point of the system using both inside and outside temp sensors

it even takes humidity into account

[tidal bronze]

Humidity is a must.

Time to cool depends on that

That's fantastic. So let's see how this is going to work out for me.

[forest edge]

my house is a poor example cause of how a split level impacts temps

you can see it maintains my lower more evenly while the upper bounces in the process

so it's like trying to account for outside temps/humidity while also balancing between the split levels

and it does not work perfectly

[tidal bronze]

Do you have a outdoor vs living graph

[tidal bronze]

With call for AC?

[forest edge]

no i have nothing that shows each of those events

[primal laurel]

I write stuff to control this in commercial units

For work that is

[tidal bronze]

Awesome, can you break down the high level logic used.

[primal laurel]

How it works you mean?

[tidal bronze]

Well the logic behind it.

@forest edge so does it maintain a 4deg band throughout the day?

[forest edge]

it struggles is what it does lol. we also have one of those remote units the woman uses and it has it's own controls and she can tell the system to override the central unit and only cater to that remotes local temp/humidity. you can actually see that on the graph with that dip lol

[tidal bronze]

Lol. When is comes to HVAC struggle is real.

[forest edge]

the problem is I don't have zone control ducts

[tidal bronze]

Yellow is living average?

[forest edge]

if I did both the upstairs and downstairs would be the same temp

yellow is downstairs while green is upstairs

[tidal bronze]

Huh ?

[forest edge]

oh the outdoor

yellow is pirate weather

and green is local sensor

[tidal bronze]

Can you graph upstairs with local sensor

[forest edge]

what do you mean

[tidal bronze]

Upstairs average sensor Vs local outdoor sensor

[forest edge]

I dunno how to combine the outdoor graph with indoor

the two graphs I pasted are of the same time frame etc

[primal laurel]

if by predictive cooling you mean basic weather compensation, the principle is pretty simple. It takes a while for heat (or cold) to propagate from outdoors to indoors and vice versa. If you have an outdoor (ambient) temperature sensor, you can adjust the setpoint of your cooling or heating unit to account for changes in ambient temperature before they propagate into the house. The underlying principle for cooling and heating is exactly the same, it's usually called weather compensation and shown as a graph like this

[forest edge]

here is a years worth lol

[tidal bronze]

Not bad at all.

[forest edge]

its a good system. i just don't have the layout nor fancy stuff like the zone ducts to really make the most out of it

not to mention she wrecks it when she uses that remote control thing and we always sometimes use our attic fan in cooler months

you can see that in march etc lol

[tidal bronze]

Got it Thanks. Do you account for consecutive hot days, cool down days warm up days?

[primal laurel]

currently, no. It will be a basic PI(D) loop for most systems

[tidal bronze]

Makes sense.

[primal laurel]

but better controllers are coming that make use of building thermal physics directly. But that's a whole other story

[tidal bronze]

If consecutive hot days, structure thermals take less time to propagate ambient heat etc.

[primal laurel]

yes. You can learn what those time constants are, if you have some data or specifications of the building. There are companies who have commercialized this technology already https://builtwins.com/technology/

[tidal bronze]

Started with, solar radiation, sun angle weighted temp sensors and now I am here. HA is interesting once again 😆

[forest edge]

maybe utilize the nest thermostats you have instead of just using them as dummy controls?

[tidal bronze]

They are a POS

[forest edge]

although not sure the nest has a local outside temp/humidity sensor to utilize

it uses thier weather thing tho

least the nest 3 does

nest 2.. whatever the one before the super disc

[tidal bronze]

Could care less about "smart thermostats"

The only piece of useless iot hardware in my loop

But hey it will turn off the furnace fan if it detects a fire via nest smoke alarms. 🤣

[forest edge]

if your ac unit produces smoke its already too late

[tidal bronze]

Things people come up for marketing

[primal laurel]

if you keep going you'll end up here. If you know a bit of EE this will make sense otherwise it won't lol

[tidal bronze]

No worries about EE 😆

Started with a C828 when I was 7. Been a while

[forest edge]

@tidal bronzeFlorida's "super speeder" law just went into effect. you should push for california to get the same law

instant jail/fine for anyone doing over 100mph

[tidal bronze]

No thank you.

[static schooner]

you gotta be able to outrun the alligators

[forest edge]

they caught someone doing a 104mph 2 minutes after the law went into effect

imagine being that poor sap

[tidal bronze]

They are running test program up in SF for speed cameras. I am not happy at all. I need my 125 days to last

[forest edge]

can't you just go faster to become a blur?

[tidal bronze]

Of course on the 10 somewhere in AZ 🤣

If they implement the speed cameras wife will finally accompany me for long drives. 😀

[forest edge]

lol

[static schooner]

you just want company in jail?

[forest edge]

why you should get a tesla so she can feel safe

[tidal bronze]

She will never. Hates the car loves with stock. She is strange.

[tidal bronze]

She says the same thing. 😆

[forest edge]

rich person boasting about something they personally dislike just to up it's worth and make themselves more money.. dosen't sound strange at all lol

[tidal bronze]

It's all relative amigo

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/mi-amigos-carlos-mencia-south-park-s13e5-fish-sticks-gif-23033501

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge do you run a zone controller or controlled vents?

[shadow lance]

why did latest update of home assistant broke area cards beyond normal usage? I have entire dashboard now gone to doodoo and nothing to replace it with in the way I used them

[static schooner]

#find-support

[forest edge]

i told you I did not.

my system would be much more effective if i had

[shadow lance]

owh I see yeah, no support here

[forest edge]

the system has to average with like a 3 or 4 degree diffrence or something between the lower lvels and upper levels

[tidal bronze]

And 1 unit?

[forest edge]

lol yea

4 floors technically

told ya it struggles

[tidal bronze]

Pushing it

[shadow lance]

Well, cheers.... I think it is time to see about using not home assistant, will hang around to see if anything will happen with me support topic, but I am guessing breaking stuff through updates is something to expect more in future

[forest edge]

just avoid updating till like .3+

[tidal bronze]

Area cards? Is it a new thing?

[shadow lance]

old MS developers? cause if that is the trick, it must be 😄

[forest edge]

they changed them. not new

[tidal bronze]

No clue about anything dashboard 🙄

[shadow lance]

the changes broke them and made them unusable

[forest edge]

which makes no sense.. the dashboard sounds like what you want to replace your nest and other crap with lol

[shadow lance]

I had them for lights nicely 2 deep 4 width and all, but all that is the past. They were simple area light on and off with display of humidity and temp of that area, now it is broken and forced 4x4

[tidal bronze]

Oh no. I will jump of a building the day I have to interact

[forest edge]

isn't jumping off a building actually interacting?

[shadow lance]

or a cause of interaction

Found my solution and it is the only way to fix it 😄

any number in there will break it and make the ugly 6 rows card forced

or bigger if number bigger then 6

[tidal bronze]

I guess this is a support channel after all 🙂 Problem fixed.

[shadow lance]

i guess they broke, you break also and that fixes it

until next update

awesome 😄

[forest edge]

@tidal bronzeyou get your pets storm shirts for 4th of july yet?

[tidal bronze]

Music assistant to the rescue. I am volunteering at the shelter

[forest edge]

you sit in the kennel and do smoochy faces at the animals?

[tidal bronze]

Ah middle earth!

[forest edge]

then what do you do? sit in there and glare at them?

https://tenor.com/view/food-angry-kid-eat-gif-15898258

[elfin fog]

For how long does Home Assistant Green store metrics?

By default

Also do I need to be careful so the storage doesn't get full?

Do I need to manually remove old data

[dawn badge]

start a thread in support channel - #1284966540617449515

[devout wind]

sigh, this really isn't the kind of shit I need to deal with recovering from wisdom tooth removal, god damnit.

Noticed an outlet turned off, turned it back on, back off instantly a couple times, then it got renamed to this shit. Killed my network, downloaded opnsense and HA logs, reset the device.. but uhg, trying to figure out the attack method, especially right now, ffs

[primal laurel]

read the message above yours

LMAO this server is so fucked

[devout wind]

locked down any port forwarding I had open, but the logs in homeassistant don't seem to have any indication of when it was reanemed, probably just then when it first shows up, but can't see any log of like, mqtt commands so idfk

[devout wind]

This isn't a home assistant config issue though, and I really doubt I'll get to the bottom of how this shit happened

[red rock]

It happens with a reason

I would recommend to also open a thread

[devout wind]

"hey homeassistant config people, I have a network security issue to figure out", totally related to configuring my ha server

[primal laurel]

I mean, you're obviously hacked

so go where you can get help

[devout wind]

isp won't change my fuckin external IP's for two weeks because they need an appointment to come out and sit on ass too, fuckin joke

[red rock]

That's right

[devout wind]

I mean if it's just from the ha server sure, but I don't have it directly exposed to the net

so probably an issue elsewhere

just venting. probably can't do shit about it at this point, and great timing to be on painkillers with jaw pain constantly smh

[lone dagger]

tbf I never found pain killers to be effective at helping with nerve pain like tooth pain. I do not envy your current position, friend.

[devout wind]

Yeah seems like they help on and off. Or maybe it is just random. Sometimes I'm just burning through ice packs faster than they freeze despite plenty of painkillers

[dawn badge]

whisky on the gums

[devout wind]

maybe but any time I've tried to go out I get dizzy as shit driving, just turned back. Been almost a week so figures my recovery is going crappy.

[tidal bronze]

Pain killers + Wine sure do work.

[devout wind]

Basically I'd have to find someone to pay to go through all these logs and audit shit. Except yknow, now in debt from shitty genetics putting sideways ass teeth in my head

[elfin fog]

Shutdown all your servers and rename your wifi back to normal. Then turn servers one by one until the attack happens again.

This way you will be able to see what server / device was hacked.

As this attack seems to be automated

[dawn badge]

time to implement your disaster recovery plan

[devout wind]

Yeah, I'm monitoring stuff right now. I got a batch of four new sonoff s31's off aliexpress, flashed tasmota to em early this am. That should have wiped anything that was on em if they were preloaded with garbage i think

I do have a full offsite backup at least worst case, so far not finding anything suspect for viruses/rootkits scanning everything I have

[tidal bronze]

How many users?

[devout wind]

Just me, lots of devices though. Did have some older ports open I wasn;t using anymore but overall was pretty locked down

[tidal bronze]

Router/wifi make?

[devout wind]

running opnsense on a semi custom box, couple ubiquity access pointts, nanohd and ap pro

and home assistant is through the nabula casa account so afaik that should be pretty secure in it's own right. I work in IT and have a good general knowledge but network stuff and cybersecurity has only been mostly a side interest, never actually spent much time getting good knowledge on it

sort of been on the list, but yknow, gotta find time

sucks that the outlets don't log stuff internally for any real period, thought they did, that would have helped find when exactly it got accessed

[tidal bronze]

So gained access to unifi controller?

[devout wind]

possibly. I have a first gen cloud key

[tidal bronze]

Shared passwords?

You should dig deep into router log. What ports are public facing as of now?

[minor bobcat]

Probably did it yourself in painkiller delirium 👀

[devout wind]

as of now no ports open, disabled all forwarding before plugging the ont back in

and I fuckin wish it was a dissasociative state where I have a pakistani alter ego or somethng. would be less concerning lol

[tidal bronze]

Before you closed what ports were open?

[devout wind]

Unfortunately a good number including some basic web server ones, at least I'm pretty sure.

I was only using 45 and 81 actively, but not sure if I killed the others. They are all mapped to specific devices

haven't played dayz in years, fuck I let that shit slide. even if it was off, should have deleted it

[primal laurel]

yeah sorry that's a complete dumpster fire right there

HA is probably not the only thing that's hacked now

[devout wind]

yeah... I mean ideally just that, but fuck, figuring out what else might be

best case just that one outlet but idfk

have some non tasmota smart plugs that I got these to replace, overkill but trashing those right now since I can't put any other firmware on em

depends how paranoid I want to be I guess, not like I'm a target for anything super sophisticated, but fuck. best case would be to literally burn everything

[fading flume]

Am I doing something wrong that updates recently don't seem to be showing up on my HA Green - or am I just getting ahead of things? e.g. I don't have any option to update to the recently released z2mqtt addon released yesterday( v2.5.1-1) or 2025.7 announced as released yesterday 😕

[static schooner]

#1284966540617449515

[scenic radish]

Is that a Tasmota device? Also did you have port forwarding set up to it for some reason?

[devout wind]

Yeah it's a sonoffo plug flashed with tasmota, no port forwarding was set to it. unless it grabbed an ip that one of my old aliases was set to

I'll check em, but think it was on a different one

[minor bobcat]

Thinking about it. Even if they got access to that specific plug over the internet. How would they be able to change the name in HA?

[scenic radish]

via the device itself

[devout wind]

oh, fuck.

ok so one of the old port forwards I have was set to that ip

god damnit

[scenic radish]

oof

well at least you know what it was now

[minor bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/big-oof-size-small-medium-switch-gif-17355313

[devout wind]

yeah. that fuckin vm I had running a web server has been offline for ages which free;d up the port

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhg

so it had port 80 open

[stuck anchor]

does your isp give your router a ipv6 block? du ipv6 enabled devices in your network manage to get ipv6 addresses from your block? if so, you could have devices that are publicly available over ipv6

[devout wind]

I don't think I have ipv6 enabled, but not specifically blocked. I also went pretty heavy handed with geoip blocking whole regions from my network

[minor bobcat]

That's the stuff people use to scare nannys about smarthomes. WHAT IF THEM COMMIES HACK YOUR PLUG

[devout wind]

though that doesn't help with a botnet from a "clean" location

Oh plugs and shit are such a good attack vector

fuck me though, don't have em on their own vlan, and didn't think I'd have it happen

but yeah, just was fuckin sitting open exposed to port 80 for ages

[scenic radish]

[stuck anchor]

if your plug had an ip address that your port 80 was forwarded to then i hope they couldn't do any real damage. just play with that one device

[scenic radish]

|| you're welcome lol ||

[devout wind]

Yeah, thanks, fuck. I mean, still concerning as shit

but it would have taken me ages to figure that out with the brain fog rn

[stuck mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/spaceballs-password-gif-22651610

[minor bobcat]

Reason #1 my dishwasher will not get internet access

[static schooner]

A long con to get you sick from dirty dishes

[devout wind]

guess that helps rule out something more sophisticated at least a bit more, just general port scraping fuckery to scare people. Which it did, so gg ez game pakistan army ig

[devout wind]

don't buy an lg washer either lol

I want to switch over to zigbee to have less stuff on wifi anyhow, fuck. should have bought one of those new-ish bridges that work over ethernet

this explains why I didn't see any access attempts on my router or cams

[minor bobcat]

Sounds like good enuff' news

[devout wind]

mhm. honestly first time occuring to me that yeah, using zigbee will massively cut down on attack vectors

[minor bobcat]

That or just don't expose two handfuls of ports

[devout wind]

more like three handfulls :/

I should have taken a screenshot of it before disabling them all to see what I actuall had open, probably all of them though, fuck

good wake up call

[trail crag]

If you're not paying for a static IP address then you might just try unplugging the modem for about an hour and then plug it back in. For me (xfinity) I've gotten a new ip address after less than 30 min

[devout wind]

I am paying for a couple unfortunately. And yeah, they literally won;t change them without coming out, which is stupid af

so not opening anything until I get new ones

[trail crag]

but yeah I am catching up and saw

Did have some older ports open I wasn;t using anymore but overall was pretty locked down
And then saw the list 😅

[devout wind]

when I first got the static externals they sent a tech out, put the router in bridge mode and he left, never got told that their gear can't handle multiple external addresses and had to scrape together an old motherboard and nic to make a router that night lol

I haven't done any game servers or web server stuff in like, four years so fuck, definitely neglected being checked over

[stuck anchor]

for the very few wifi devices i have i use a guest network on my router. that way they can talk to their cloud service but not my internal network. everything else is zigbee here

[devout wind]

zigbee was kind of always the goal too but no good negotiators that worked with poe, so never set up their own isolated thing

but there are those relatively new ones that look pretty nice, and are only like 60 bucks

[tidal bronze]

Wowza!

[cyan beacon]

What's the best method/forum to make suggestions for UX changes? This seems outside the scope of a normal bug report/feature request.

Context here: would like better device selection for HomeKit bridge, analogous to Alexa/Google Assistant.

[devout wind]

these ones

I'll probably get one and some outlets to play with in like, two months when I pay off the rest of the debt from the operation

[tidal bronze]

Just a suggestion. Even 443 run it via CF reverse proxy and whitelist only CF IP's .

[devout wind]

then I can grab nice low power temp sensors and shit too

[minor bobcat]

You will spend so much money on zigbee stuff lol

[stuck anchor]

i just use a nabu casa zigbee stick in my haos based server. most of my routers are light bulbs

[devout wind]

Yeah, I had a little project archiving youtube channels and hosting the backups, but ran out of storage and had no donations or money for it so abandoned it. And never cleaned up my ports :/

[devout wind]

oh definitely lol

temp sensor in each room, hey, why not outside, hey, why not a different spot outside, etc lol

[iron granite]

https://github.com/orgs/home-assistant/discussions

[minor bobcat]

Windows/Doors, outlets, motion basically everything?

[devout wind]

Yeah, would definitely be cool. I just rent a small ass place basically with half a garage to use for working on stuff. So not like it's been worth setting up loads of automation or anything. I just set up home assistant for power monitoring my server rack more or less

[minor bobcat]

Got 11 Zigbee devices, not counting lights

And i have a 3 room apartment lol

[tidal bronze]

CF has upload limits but now you can use Pangolin.

[devout wind]

I think I looked into it and didn't like how they took over SEO rankings too or whatever it was. my site actually like, popped up proper on google lol, should have screenshotted that when it still did. But yeah, wasn't gonna sink money into terabytes of storage for other people past the spare drives I had

[devout wind]

basically the same here too. I'd love to have like, automatic lighting zones and presence detection and shit set up.

but it also takes three steps to get between all the light switches here

so not much point lmao

[tidal bronze]

There's always a point on fully automating

[minor bobcat]

Yep

[devout wind]

only automation I have I set up this week, got some smart tower fans that I could plug in and they have a temp sensor, so automated the window ac in my server room to save power. Aside from that just using ha for outlets lol

so massively under-using it

[minor bobcat]

You cant predict everything, that's why i want a decent dashboard, but i have everyday stuff automated and I love it.

[devout wind]

oh don't remind me about grafana, fuck

still need to delve into that

[tidal bronze]

You can predict EVERYTHING 🙂

[devout wind]

I bet I can use HA to set multiple alarms on stuff somehow, because yknow, I need like, 10 to wake up. There's probably a way I can say "wake me up at 8 am" and it will set alarms at 15 minute intervals the previous hour

that would be useful

[minor bobcat]

GF decides it's ocean documentary night and wants the lights to be all blue and shit? Teach me master

[tidal bronze]

Documentary and blue lights?

[devout wind]

rgb lights are on the list when I get zigbee lol, mostly so I can have a night running thing where if I need to piss middle of the night they just all go on dim red

would be better than white lol

[minor bobcat]

Basically ambilight but without hue sync or anything like that

[solar zealot]

Days before the "I bought tuya bulbs but they turn on full bright white before switching to color" post

[devout wind]

ah lmao, that's a thing? I'll have to try and remember that

[tidal bronze]

That's not a requirement in my use case. But for the extensive system I run, don't use a dashboard and never will.

[devout wind]

idk if you can flash tasmota firmware on to some bulbs or something but seems you could then define the initial state in rgb, idk. Just have dim be default lol

[stuck anchor]

when i turn on the alarm on my phone at bedtime ha detects the alarm time set and turns on the light 30 mins before the alarm

[devout wind]

That would be pretty nice. being able to do it from a voice assistant when I'm super tired would be nice though

I set multiple alarms on my echo dot and phone lol

annoying to yell at alexa from the next room five times in a row lmao

[minor bobcat]

Tbf i only encounter edge cases like that because there is the option to do weird stuff. If I'd never install colored lights i wouldn't have that problem lol

[tidal bronze]

I do have multiple accent lights but that's only when guests are around for music running ledfx

[lone dagger]

your face is a light bulb

(torn between that or router, you get light bulb)

[devout wind]

oh fuck, tasmota does have a web admin password option. That probably would have prevented the renaming shit. But also, woke up up about a big issue, so eh, kind of good

[stuck anchor]

the app i use on android uses the microphone to detect when i sleep light in a configurable time before the time set and tries to wake me then

[devout wind]

didn't realize you could set that for the plug's ui

[minor bobcat]

Aw yeah I have that too, my friends have wifi access. If HA detects them and music is playing on my speaker, dim ambient lights turn on because we are 90% sure sitting on the balcony drinking

[devout wind]

oh, like, it listens for you stirring and shit to try and detect when you aren't in REM sleep?

[stuck anchor]

yes. it seems to actually work

[devout wind]

damn, that's pretty cool. What's the app called?

[stuck anchor]

also detects snoring and lets me listen to it

[devout wind]

With my luck won't work for me, but eh, maybe worth a shot. I'm always tired wether I sleep 3 hours or 12

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/rem-losing-my-religion-thats-me-in-the-corner-thats-me-in-the-spotlight-90s-music-gif-18735872

[devout wind]

God the brain fog is real. I did not read that as religion the first time and was like wtf lol

[stuck anchor]

"sleep cycle" by "sleep cycle ab"

[devout wind]

cool. Gonna look into it for sure

[stuck anchor]

i use the "brown noise" option for falling asleep. it seems to mask the noises from the outside best for me

[devout wind]

uhg. I'm gonna go half lay down/slump down again. mouth is starting to feel swollen and fuckin itchy again. Thanks again for the help spotting the huge ass mistakes I made though, jesus.

maybe I should take some time off work next week too at this rate, fk. idk how they say people go back to work a day or two later

[stuck anchor]

it can do a lot of sleep analysis stuff, but i think that requires buying a license

[scenic radish]

Or change the MAC address of your router if possible it has that feature

[queen galleon]

@vagrant forum looks like my Bitwarden extension's site icon logic had a memory leak for me

the others probably didnt help

[forest edge]

@tidal bronzeyou super excited about the next movie you watch at the theater? https://www.theverge.com/news/695611/amc-theatres-movie-preshow-ads-warning

[scenic radish]

Alright what's less lame, being at home alone or being at a bar alone. Because I'm currently at a bar alone since my wife is gone for the weekend lol

[scenic radish]

I was sitting at home playing Borderlands and thought "why the fuck am I sitting at home alone" and then went out

[glacial knot]

sounds like a mistake

[elfin fog]

Damn I didn't saw the minimize button so I pressed the back button and the dashboard froze

[forest edge]

going to a bar alone is always the most lame

bonus extra lame points if you are not single

[elfin fog]

Depends on the person. My uncle always starts flirting with the waitresses

[forest edge]

well if he is single then he's not getting full possible points so there is that

[elfin fog]

he has a wife

[forest edge]

00f

https://youtube.com/shorts/K0iiqvSjg0s?si=7ItbIuus_7u3k1Kb

[devout wind]

I haven't been to a movie theater in like, 10 years lmao, this isn't gonna help lol

[forest edge]

surprised movie theaters still exists

[devout wind]

I've considered it a couple times, but just never seems worth $40+ to see a movie and get some food.

probably more than that honestly. Also wouldn't be going with anyone so like.. eh, I'll just wait?

Though there have been some things that would have been cool to experience on a giant screen. The noise and stuff from other people isn't a positive addition for me though

[glacial knot]

I'd go if they didn't serve snacks and muzzled talkers

[forest edge]

whats the point of going to a movie theater if you can't have popcorn?

[unborn merlin]

giving your betters your money?

duh. /s

[desert cave]

Who watches movies at theaters any more?

[glacial knot]

Bigger screen
Legal early watching

[forest edge]

yea sorry, you are in the minority with your no snack idea lol

[glacial knot]

That's why cinemas are dying

[forest edge]

lol no

streaming services is why they are dying

them having to increase cost of tickets and food because of that is why they are dying

[glacial knot]

Yea. Noone with🍿 at home
So streaming is superior

They only ever had a chance when they provided value by being cheaper and earlier than home video releases
But since it's neither now, why would anyone bother with how shitty the experience is?

[minor bobcat]

Also given the quality of TVs most people have now

Nothing new is really shitty, even cheap walmart / chinese models

[glacial knot]

Ehhhh, depends on how well your eyes work

[minor bobcat]

Most peoples eyes like the factory settings

Just us nerds being skeptics

[forest edge]

thats why they came out with screenx and max4d etc

[glacial knot]

Granted, on a good video source they mostly look ok

[forest edge]

and if you are rich enough to have those experinces at home the cost of a ticket to a theater is nothing

just look at QF lol

[glacial knot]

Yea. But bigger screen isn't worth the suck of people with 🍿 within earshot

[forest edge]

well that's you

I personally do not hear that when I have gone

the surround sound of the movie drives out any ambient noises

[minor bobcat]

That's the problem around here, no cinema near me has really good sound

[glacial knot]

Sadly I'm younger than 80 and still got mostly working ears 😦

[forest edge]

uh huh

[minor bobcat]

Last movie I watched was Expendables 4 because i wanted all that action bs really rumble. But nah

[glacial knot]

Yea, price isn't the problem
It's the horrible experience

[forest edge]

must be a german thing

[glacial knot]

The only acceptable one I've been to in years is the student one
Which is a shit show. But intentionally

Yea. I know you guys aren't used to comfort and tolerate it 😂

[forest edge]

leather seats that recline, no blockage of the view of the screen, perfect sound.. yea we sure lack comfort lol

[glacial knot]

Yea. Why would you have to leave your home for that..?

Also, not a fan of leather seats in most cases. But that's preference

[forest edge]

well like i said, the screen would be the main reason.. that and some people like being socialble for whatever reason

[glacial knot]

But why would you try to be sociable in a context where you are supposed to be mostly silent?
Cinemas suck for that

[forest edge]

i mean

there are periods before and after the movie lol

not to mention bars inside movie theaters is like common place now

[mighty rose]

So, if I'm writing an automation with variables in it - what's the easiest way to debug on what is being set?

[stuck anchor]

the biggest cinema complex here has good sound, some halls with luxury recliners and one small hall with insane sound system. das boot was nice in that one. when the sub hit bottom the whole room did. but still... so much easier to watch at home. i live in my own house. i can play loud. and i have a good subwoofer.

[glacial knot]

Maybe? Haven't been in ages.

[glacial knot]

The trace view
For more, please ask in #1284980040940912641

Though I also annoy my brother by mostly watching movies on intercontinental flights

Even worse than cinemas
Even more expensive

But ehh

[scenic radish]

Strangest rage bait I've seen in a while: https://youtube.com/shorts/cY04CeInPdA

[clear ferry]

what the fuck

also

where are the support pillars

all it takes is one honey booboo to come out on that terasse

https://tenor.com/beVst.gif

I assumed a terasse though, but it is actually just a carport

give it four segulls then

https://tenor.com/oh8fA9G6Nxd.gif

[glacial knot]

Wdym rage bait?
This is what I expect from half the people here

[clear ferry]

only half ?

[glacial knot]

Other half isn't hands on enough

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-the-builder-gif-14361926106751577277

[unborn merlin]

being hands on can suck sometimes. 💔

at work where someone improperly installed a heat pumps drain line so it almost leaked into a PSU I ahve setup for LEDs... 🙃

the condensation stopped just right above it...

coincidence? maybe. or maybe just the ambient heat coming off the PSU kept it from happening. Either way, sonvabitch.

worse: go into ceiling to do something.

Spot a wire.

yes that is a live wire just dangling there out of the box... I checked its live.. ffs..

[crisp oriole]

Did you touched it?

• yes im fucked!

[devout wind]

touch it again

just to make 100% sure

how can you know for sure?

Science!

[primal laurel]

https://conclusive.tech/products/kstr-imx93-sbc/

[robust flicker]

Have they never heard of Pi???

[primal laurel]

What?

Why

[iron granite]

Not why. Pi.

[dawn badge]

"first linux capable sbc" is definetly ragebait
they mean "first sbc with this particular processor and it can run linux"

[robust flicker]

"The first Linux capable SBC" was released over a decade ago...

[primal laurel]

rage bait? lol

[primal laurel]

much longer than that... it's just the embed in the link that's cut off. It doesn't actually say that on the page...

[clear ferry]

laughs in proper systems

[glacial knot]

/me likes the odroids

PI though

[primal laurel]

does your proper system do: LTE Cat-M1 / NB-IoT, WiFi 6, Bluetooth 5.4, 802.15.4, Thread, DECT NR+, GNSS, ZigBee

... all on one board?

[glacial knot]

Usually two
But board count makes no difference to anything

Mostly more board is more better
Outside situations with harsh signal integrity requirements

[sage vessel]

Hey all 🙂 I am only just getting started with home assistant - but I have been slowly building up my own dashboard and device repertoire. I haven't gottent started on too much automation yet but will soon nice to meet you all ^_^

[clear ferry]

No need for that when you can just decouple it all and run it HA instead

With 5+ replicas

With cross geo redundancy

And multiple failure domains per site

Throw in some private 5G for good measure

[glacial knot]

Geo redundancy on HA 😂

[primal laurel]

can you point me to which planet you are living on

[glacial knot]

doesn't seem to be listed here

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/pluto-i-just-googled-it-rick-and-morty-gif-10749268

[clear ferry]

Not on HA, but High availability

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-gee-oh-geez-geez-gee-jesus-gif-13871900

[stuck anchor]

ha for ha would be very nice though

[clear ferry]

That's easy enough

Just ask ongy

With his HA on Kubernetes

[scenic radish]

Alright this entire video is worth watching, but the end of the first minute had me in tears laughing: https://youtu.be/22dquW4EYsQ

[stuck anchor]

with zigbee coordinator failover as well? 😄

[primal laurel]

https://frenck.dev/the-enterprise-smart-home-syndrome/

[clear ferry]

That's easy with Poe coordinators

[glacial knot]

yea, but no active<>active, not even active<>passive :/

so it's really just quick~ish failover

[clear ferry]

Ha enough

[scenic radish]

You're easy with PoE coordinators

[clear ferry]

Vcenter ha on windows was 20 minute failover

[glacial knot]

it is nice to just move it to another host and then update the previous one though

[glacial knot]

He can be wrong as well 😂

[clear ferry]

can be?

[glacial knot]

well yea. on windows

[clear ferry]

Usually is

[glacial knot]

nobody expects quality

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-praying-raccoon-god-raccoon-heaven-raccoon-sky-raccoon-meme-gif-8929863978049516685

[scenic radish]

Frenck may be disappointed that I set up a separate HA instance for Google Assistant to access that only has access to devices we'd control via voice (which is rare anyway tbh)

[robust flicker]

Low voltage guy here: (Fire/smoke alarm/suppression, access controls, CCTV) I feel attacked ...

[primal laurel]

It's okay, there are many here who suffer from the same condition

[scenic radish]

it's really just paranoia about access to the instance itself

[stuck mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-day-gif-18564553

[forest edge]

I see Pi was mentioned (the first ever real use of linux)

[stuck anchor]

redundant poe zigbee coordinators with failover are easy? i'll have to check that out then

[forest edge]

wtf is zigbee failover

[clear ferry]

Zigbee2mqtt restores the config to the coordinator on boot, so just make the DNS to point to both

[stuck anchor]

but if your coordinator fails? can you have a standby coordinator that will work without rebuilding the whole network? i guess it's possible

[clear ferry]

Yes

It is just like replacing the one you have

I've moved between 5 coordinators

Just by swapping it out

[glacial knot]

Yes
I moved from USB to networked coordinator without rebuilding

It doesn't work with every coordinator though

[stuck anchor]

i guess the standby needs to have different config until it is needed, then switch the config over

[clear ferry]

Or just keep it blank

Then after failover just wipe the standby

This can all be automated

[forest edge]

is this all in regard to using like the sonoff cordinators?

[stuck anchor]

the only thing i don't like about that is that the network must be up.

that is my main reason for sticking with the usb stick

[clear ferry]

Is your network down?

I've been running Poe coordinator now for 3 years, no hickup so far

[stuck anchor]

pi with ups and an old cell phone... automations work even if someone cuts power and network

so if i want my pi to become my alarm system i may go that route

[pulsar umbra]

Bought that cheap Aliexpress zigbee lamp and its working surprisingly well

It was like 15buck and worked right out of the box

I will work a wall fixture for it and it should be quite neat

[forest edge]

you got one when you bought the jeep

[primal laurel]

just repeat the things sonoma says

[forest edge]

aka speak the truth

[scenic radish]

Link pls

[pulsar umbra]

https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/1005003704251345.html?

actualy you are lucy they are in discount

9.8 buck

[forest edge]

that's quite the link

[primal laurel]

jesus christ remove all the tracking bullshit

[pulsar umbra]

the 5W one is the one i have and its more than enough lol

[pulsar umbra]

yeah lol its fixed now

[lone dagger]

Do you mind if others have the role?

[forest edge]

I mean yes and no. i think the biggest issue would be confusion cause of how hard the role color makes to read the name lol

least on dark mode

[primal laurel]

your name

[unborn merlin]

you aren't that important... 😛

[scenic radish]

That's fair lol

[forest edge]

I had to buy a new pair of jeans earlier this year and noticed the same brand, same type of jeans I always buy was like way different than what I already had. the side pockets were smaller, the fit was weird and even the color was like way off. ended up buying the same jeans off amazon rather than in a store cause amazon was old stock

https://youtu.be/jCwbU41Icfw?si=bzcSzrZdtR3Lys4e

[lone dagger]

The one good thing is that you guys have different profile pictures. I won't stop someone else from wanting to be as annoying as we're making the role be. 😆 But we definitely made it to fuck with you and only you (originally). 🤣

I do think that if too many people have it, it's like you say, kinda hard to distinguish who's who at a glance.

[unborn merlin]

nah his boomer brainrot distinguishes him.

Duh.

[tidal bronze]

Jeans????? Aren't you supposed to wear Corduroy?

[tidal bronze]

Who's who issue is an unversal question!!!

He ain't dense, just a can short of a 6 pack

[unborn merlin]

grew up in the days of lead paint, therefore lead poisoned.. therefore probably does in fact have a denser brain..

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

[scenic radish]

More like a dozen cans

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge you running around the barn with that flag today?

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/god-bless-america-happy-4th-gif-26126342

[tidal bronze]

You lost me at beer

[forest edge]

thats because you have no taste

vast amount of microplastics you've consumed through seafood has wrecked you

[tidal bronze]

So beer got taste? Oh my Mr. Middle Earth!?

[forest edge]

at this point you beaten out all the jokes people make towards those who get cosmetic surgery

[scenic radish]

I think you need to try an IPA

[tidal bronze]

Was a fan when I was younger!

[forest edge]

when the microplastics count was still low

[tidal bronze]

Shhhh..... enjoy!

[forest edge]

that video cut out just before that bear left behind a giant pile of floating shit in the pool

https://youtu.be/e4-R3JvGdJs?si=0-Hm1O87wfbSWloE

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge Dude!!!! You got skills! Nice shades too.

[forest edge]

isn't the guy in the glasses an actor?

looks familiar

[static schooner]

Chad Flexington

[forest edge]

not the image i posted, the video he posted lol

[static schooner]

oh, the guy in the video

[austere anchor]

That was Shaggy.

[weak musk]

That’s 5 ha’s

[forest edge]

and you make 5

[weak musk]

Not a dozen

-# should have put 13 ha’s on there

No you

[forest edge]

wut

oh i see

haha

[lone dagger]

😆

[forest edge]

this was kind of cool to see

https://youtu.be/c7or0y2towI?si=-qNTOM1xsXEfbVpU

[charred wagon]

I heard we like water coolers here.

[glacial knot]

is that a sprite from Terraria?

[charred wagon]

This is the water cooler from Undertale / Deltarune. It shows no mercy (I was hoping this might strike fear to someone's soul, perhaps in time)

[clear ferry]

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSimpsons/s/U20fq2fnlX

[minor bobcat]

I should include that watercooler in my dashboard

[solar zealot]

That's hilariously cool

How did you end up making this

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/call-me-daddy-norman-osborn-smirk-smile-gif-22030460

[solar zealot]

Ok Grandpa let's get you back to bed

[clear ferry]

[minor bobcat]

Guide can be found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/s/mh6cdcO8sk

It's not a perfect 1:1 walk through but i did my best 😅

[solar zealot]

Nice nice

[clear ferry]

Gotta catch them all

[granite dove]

Mb if this is not water cooler talk, but what channel would be for asking about custom lovelace cards?

[iron granite]

#1284965988642590891

[crisp oriole]

Omg just found out i have something between my teeth in my tiktok recording.....

[primal laurel]

The solution is to delete tiktok

[crisp oriole]

For that i need tiktok admin credentials

[solar zealot]

You can also just remove the application from your device

Faster results by this one simple trick

[clear ferry]

Admin / Password123!
MFA is clicking yes on the same phone you are logging in with

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carey-dumb-and-dumber-lloyd-christmas-silly-face-gif-5623684

[restive rain]

i'm new to automations. I want a push button to turn on / off several lights. The way I think I have to do it is: create an "on" and and "off" scene, and then, depending on which scene is active, switch to the other one?

[crisp oriole]

Thats ostrich behaviour

[solar zealot]

They lay the big eggs, you don't mess with breakfast birds

[static schooner]

#1284980040940912641

[silent dove]

The topic of this channel is:

There’s no support here - only chill. Come in, grab a drink, chat with your fellow community members! This is a space to talk to other smart home enthusiasts. If you’re looking for support and unsure where to go, check out https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284968640189304913 - it should help you find where you are going. This channel isn't for 'quick questions' - see above and post in the appropriate place. No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

[crisp oriole]

I tought mental support was allowed

[weak musk]

Banned in April. Only raccoons allowed now.

[crisp oriole]

What about emotional support raccoons?

[weak musk]

Definitely allowed— encouraged even

[static schooner]

Looks like a floor plan from AmongUs 🙂

[dire cobalt]

Geez is there a way to automatically reauthorize Smartlife connection, anytime internet or power goes out it disrupts the entire house controls!

[iron granite]

If you are talking about one of the Tuya integrations, #1284966582375813201 might know.

[clear timber]

Hi Folks. I run a fair few bits as addons on my HA installation but in the interest of breaking things up I wanted to host them elsewhere. e.g. Frigate NVR, Plex, Music Assistant so HA can run as clean and efficent for its main purpose. I do have an unraid server, an old beast that is powered on when needed but just looking for an alternative small footprint server with a web front end to manage dockers. Any suggestions or is a combination of Linux/Portainer still the best out there/

[dawn badge]

proxmox! vm for haos and LXC's for other stuff. but for further discussion start a thread in #1284966540617449515

[clear timber]

I just came here as I will be running HA on its own dedicated hardware, separate. This is just for something to run non critical home services

[static schooner]

Please move to #1284966540617449515

[ripe warren]

What's the best place to ask about building add-ons? I have python daemon I'm working on turning into an addon and it's very close to working but I have a snag I can't figure out.

[dawn badge]

get the dev role from the channels and roles section and then ask in the dev support section

[ripe warren]

Thank you.

[crisp oriole]

So the mental support has been deligated to emotional support raccoons?

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/developers-gif-13292051

[scenic radish]

<@&330946878646517761> 👆

(not atx)

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[scenic radish]

That was the laziest trolling I think I've ever seen

[static schooner]

Yep

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/nikki-o-nikki-o-me-nikki-o-thats-me-me-nikki-o-thats-me-nikki-o-gif-26079923

[crisp oriole]

Missed it

Not even a post in #creator-connection what for spam was that

[clear ferry]

Just saw a post about how much gold reserve each country has

And Norway has none

But we own 1.5% of all stock in the world

[solar zealot]

Ofc not it's all in your basement

[glacial knot]

that's just the souvereign fund I assume, not including other nortwat owners?

[clear ferry]

Yes

Missy approved emöji

[forest edge]

your land would sink if you had

[clear ferry]

You are thinking of the Dutch

[glacial knot]

or venice

[clear ferry]

Imagine Holland with gondolas

[primal laurel]

that's Giethoorn

[arctic quarry]

wait, why does Gondoland sound familiar

omg noo it's that green guy from the English lessons

hated that show

[weak musk]

What’s with the black bar?

[forest edge]

its two seperate emoji's

[weak musk]

Oh lol

[crisp oriole]

not kodomo band?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EunX_CRvfw

[solar zealot]

happens if you don't remove the blank space

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/gondor-calls-for-aid-gif-14982306

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/heartbeat-black-white-heart-dead-gif-8286359

[forest edge]

don't show that to qf lol

[clear ferry]

Isn't that QF?

[crisp oriole]

Politics

[crisp oriole]

I dont explain my daft jokes. And twisted humor. Blame it on all the bullies in my childhood

[tidal bronze]

Last night I was listening to a podcast about my HA setup. Some of the the automations I never knew I had 🤣

[last cedar]

I am convinced that they multiply when you don't expect it

[tidal bronze]

Well, some are about 10 years old. I move houses but automations carry over. Just eye opening to hear 🙂

Little too much 🙂

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/supernatural-spn-deanwinchester-carryon-waywardson-gif-5031559

[weak musk]

I have 39 lol

[blissful plaza]

First time home owner, in way over my head. Wish me luck!

[crisp oriole]

Do you need a hue hub when using home assistant?

[jade elm]

May your wallet support the path you choose in life.

[crisp oriole]

You can buy a pi zero plug it in to 24 volts. And bless the IT spirits with white holy smoke.

[blissful plaza]

I have no idea!

[blissful plaza]

I wish I understood what this meant 😭

[crisp oriole]

I checked you need the bridge.

[blissful plaza]

Awesome thanks

[blissful plaza]

Bahaha

[crisp oriole]

How dutch are you? I saw your power plugs dont lie

[blissful plaza]

Ahah, dual citizen, speak the language. Went to Dutch preschool/kindergarten. Dad is first gen US immigrant, most of my family is in NL

[crisp oriole]

Congratulations on your house. I bet philips works great. I have a tight budget so have cheap zigbee stuff.

Zigbee is still good to add for lots of stuff.

[blissful plaza]

Thank you!! My partner and I are super excited, if a bit overwhelmed

[blissful plaza]

Ahahah

Love me a xkcd

[crisp oriole]

What do you like more backend. Functions commands routine. Or frontend how stuff looks?

Home assistant is a lot of stuff. Even for me it was overwhelming and i know my IT stuff.

[blissful plaza]

I fix people, not machines. So I don't actually know what that means. I meant what I said about being in over my head lol

[crisp oriole]

Dont worry we got you. The devs are working on a area card. That automatically generates a good looking gui (i think i should say app to you) by assigning devices to a room.

Works pretty well and they still work on it

[weak musk]

no. zigbee coordinators work.

[blissful plaza]

Well I appreciate that! Thanks for dumbing it down hah.

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge easier than updating webview 🤣 wanna do something "special" for my guests.

[forest edge]

why not just give them a laptop at this point lol

[red rock]

discord automatically adds spaces when posting emoji

[olive shoal]

dont know if theres a better channel for this, but yay or nay? https://api.tail230321.ts.net/hass/action/

[iron granite]

#find-support

[olive shoal]

dont see anything more fitting there tbh

[weak musk]

maybe you should actually ask a specific question in https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284976732428046461 (which is a thread in the channel Jorg listed)

because the only other answer you’re going to get here is “Raccoons”

[olive shoal]

yeah, but there's no question except feedback to the page. im not searching for help

[weak musk]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-drinking-beer-raccoon-meme-raccoon-beer-raccoon-drinking-raccoon-gif-11108347521867034834

[weak musk]

no one knows what you’re doing

[olive shoal]

thats why i attached a screenshot, to explain

[dawn badge]

#1284960456880029707 perhaps, but tbh without context and source. it looks sketchy as all hell

[weak musk]

task failed.

[olive shoal]

its fully clientside so all the code is "open source". you can just download the html and run it whereever no internet access required

if its too "niche" i wont bother either way

[dawn badge]

again, this is not the place, start a thread in self promotion with more context

[weak musk]

https://tenor.com/view/viralhog-raccoon-piano-gif-9157231802234050343

[glacial knot]

Cute. Managed/PoE switch?

[blissful plaza]

I had to look up what that meant, lol. But no I don't think so!

[high remnant]

I should not be sleepy when creating backup scripts

there was once a backup

[stuck anchor]

if, for some weird reason, you want to use the hue cloud services and then integrate ha to those... imho you are then asking for trouble - and latency

hue devices are zigbee devices, and a ha instance with a zigbee coordinator will handle the hue devices directly.

in the latter case, let the raccoons have the hue hub so you can work in peace with the rest

[keen bridge]

@last cedar I didn't realise you have a jewellery shop! https://tannybunny.com/product/raccoon-ear-cuff-silver/

[clear ferry]

Want this

[minor bobcat]

I've got my Hue Lights on a Hue Hub because of Dynamic scenes. ZHA Can't create gradients on rgb Strips, only single static colors

[split grail]

if you have HA installed on a laptop, can you just swap the HDD/SSD to any computer? I assume it should just work

[clear ferry]

You can move HA from anything to anything by just copying the config directory

HAOS eh, maybe probably, wouldn't

[solar zealot]

HAOS all you need is the backup

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-as-that-clash-royale-hee-hee-hee-haw-gif-25054781

[scenic radish]

Philips Hue has a local API which is what HA uses

<@&330946878646517761> (resolved, thanks)

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-gif-2172927149275163484

9600 members

Gotta join

Might find my soulmate

[solar zealot]

They all are already in your basement

[glacial knot]

<@&330946878646517761> this looks a lot like spam

[iron granite]

Atx again?

[glacial knot]

So does ATX to be honest

Either he's a bot magnet, or chats a lot
If it's always him in the crossfire

[weak musk]

https://youtu.be/mACO9BhP3ok?si=q-9Pqo9YdNE66kZQ

@clear ferry I found your next vehicle for when you visit Sonoma stateside

[split grail]

I was just thinking about moving the drive itself, not copying files

[hexed spade]

need a frontend dev/mod to re-open this please: https://github.com/home-assistant/frontend/issues/25691#issuecomment-3041824588 prematurely closed because 'custom' is mentioned, however custom only reveals core issue.
now confirmed by others too in https://community.home-assistant.io/t/material-you-theme-a-fully-featured-implementation-of-material-design-3-for-home-assistant/623242/183

[clear ferry]

I used to have a double isolated A8L, not quite armoured since you don't have to account for light refraction problems but still

[primal laurel]

#developers

[runic cape]

I didn't see this in the change log, or maybe it was phrased in some technical way that I didn't recognise, but Samsung TVs work now with media being sent to them 🙂

only since latest update

[primal laurel]

it's funny because large SUVs like this are way more likely to result in crashes to begin with, and death in event of a collision. Safety my ass, only for the people inside the car

[dawn badge]

didn't bill gates get a armoured volvo to protect his children? because Mercedes refused to build him one as they didn't want the liability

the man just wanted a bullet proof family car and Mercedes wanted no part of it

[runic cape]

For most people the biggest danger to their kids is running them over with their own car

when they get the big fat "safe" cars

[last cedar]

Times are hard, with recycling on the up I had to find other ways to pay the bills! (They are so cute omg!!)

[keen bridge]

I need these in my life

[last cedar]

You would look very pretty with one of those ear cuffs ❤️

Have you seen some of the other dragon and butterflys they have?! Awesome

[keen bridge]

I know!! And foxes. So adorable

[weak musk]

I mean, yes

[clear ferry]

Yes Mistress

[near reef]

road noises after switching to road tires + motor maintenance

[minor bobcat]

Wtf are you driving an SLT Elefant II or what?

[near reef]

oh just a bike

[iron granite]

SLT Elefant II sounds different.

[near reef]

I miss the violent road feedback I usually get from using off-road tires on-road ngl

but these new tires are pretty cool

I sped up to 35 mph and didn't realize until I looked at my speedo, the road feedback was just gone

https://www.amazon.com/Allscape-26x4-0-Fat-Bike-Tires/dp/B0D326ZK12

[stuck anchor]

i was in my late twenties when linux appeared...

[glacial knot]

[stuck anchor]

waiting for arm on desktop? my first home computer with a real os was the acorn r-140 running bsd unix on arm. i am waiting for the return of arm on desktop.

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/now-old-man-the-future-is-now-old-man-gif-9677657

That said, I was 11 when linux started becoming mainstream and I've been on and off from 97-15, but fulltime since

For desktop that is

All my servers have been linux since 98

[glacial knot]

no BSD?

[scenic radish]

I do wonder if ARM will take over and x86 will slowly disappear

With x86 still still having more software compatibility though (from what I can tell) I'm not so sure

[clear ferry]

I've run BSD for years, but not primary systems @glacial knot

[clear ferry]

We are rolling out a lot of Ampere these days, and RISC-V is looking promising

[granite dove]

Any suggestions on where to drop a relatively simple question that didn't get answered in a thread?

[clear ferry]

Have you tried our lord and saviour google

[primal laurel]

You can respond to your own thread to bump it

[loud imp]

im curious about general experiences linking HA to google home? is it slow for anyone else? i cant seem to get gemini to control my devices cause it just loads. even the dasboar dloads. I pay for nabu casa and then expose things like wled to google through that

[clear ferry]

I've used ha with home for 5+ years, never been slow, but I don't use nabu casa

[forest edge]

you use cloud services?

|| traitor ||

[clear ferry]

Self hosted yes

[high remnant]

https://iwillnotbuynitro.com/u/parched-sane-asiaticwildass.png

[weak musk]

Atx definitely would if he could

[clear ferry]

Been my own cloud for 27 years, not stopping now

[high remnant]

fair enough

[clear ferry]

And I install private clouds for a living tbh

So yes I would download a cloud

[forest edge]

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-illustration/fat-man-soaring-clouds-600w-171681170.jpg

[high remnant]

the closed I have come to downloading a cloud is nextcloud

[tidal bronze]

Only-Clouds?

[clear ferry]

Mostly VCF or other similar stuff, lots of AI factories

[tidal bronze]

Share your url for us

[clear ferry]

::1

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge TX you say?

[forest edge]

what about your future home?

[tidal bronze]

You seriously want anyone to move to TX? Really?

[forest edge]

it is the future

[loud imp]

interesting, okay, I will google the alternative and investigate that 😄 , thanks!

I have a homelab, but still use google home cause easy lol

[tidal bronze]

With a Tempest weather station.

[tidal bronze]

Nothing wrong with google home

[high remnant]

ehh its google

[forest edge]

oh don't pin that, that was from an anti piracy ad lol

[lone dagger]

Yes that's why it's hilarious.

[forest edge]

back when companies actually sued people for downloading mp3's lol

[high remnant]

That's the only thing I dont download tbh

allegedly

[sinful fable]

i still miss whatcd

[clear ferry]

Warez

It's all Debbie does Dallas

[tidal bronze]

Gemini is something else!

@lone dagger what do you think of this podcast? 🙂

[forest edge]

is that ai generated voice?

[lone dagger]

that's 20 minutes of ain't nobody got time for that

[forest edge]

pretty much what every podcast is

like that one friend who just blabs and blabs into your ear after they get a few drinks in them and you try your hardest to tune them out

[tidal bronze]

It's like that huh? How rude!

[tidal bronze]

What has drinking gotta do with blabbing?

[forest edge]

try being sober for longer than 5 minutes and you'll find out

[tidal bronze]

You calling me an alcoholic?

[forest edge]

whatever the step up from that is

[tidal bronze]

I am not happy today. Gotta fly out and it's summer. Yuk!

[forest edge]

gonna wear your bubble?

https://tenor.com/view/bubble-bubble-boy-jeremy-cohen-jerm-cohen-brooklyn-gif-17952138

[tidal bronze]

Midwest, east coast and Toronto. Humidity shitshow!

[tidal bronze]

Need to really get one of these!

[forest edge]

humid here but east coast and certainly toronto should be fine lol

[tidal bronze]

Nopes. Toronto is meh these days

[forest edge]

heh they are actually are under a heat warning

thats weird

[tidal bronze]

I have no idea why people celebrate their birthdays, IF it's summer and humid

[forest edge]

prob just get a laugh at making people like you have to experince the real world

[crisp oriole]

You mean people should pick there own birthday. There has been a case in the dutch justice system about that

[tidal bronze]

Why suffer? Move shit around. Or just move!

[crisp oriole]

Yeah. Why not celebrate your birthday. One year closer of ending the suffering.

[tidal bronze]

Did you drink more than me?

[crisp oriole]

Im planning a big holiday trip the day after im dead.

[crisp oriole]

No im daft

[tidal bronze]

Isn't everyday a holiday? A trip?

[crisp oriole]

Big trip

[tidal bronze]

Big? Relative to?

[crisp oriole]

Im tired of earth hope to go to the stars when im a spirit

[forest edge]

well aren't you in for a huge disappointment

[crisp oriole]

Yeah i know. Will prolly do the same shit i do forever

[primal laurel]

Netflix has a shit ton of mistranslations these days

Like 'see' and 'sea'

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-ai-robot-ai-meme-ai-meme-gif-509507551361818171

poor guy he’s going it’s best

[primal laurel]

they're 100% using AI but this is just shit

[blissful plaza]

Making progress! My dashboard is a disaster though hah

Give me grace with my cable management, I beg of you

[dawn badge]

small steps 🙂

[blissful plaza]

Indeed!

[hollow panther]

The cable management looks better than some server cabinets I've inherited at work. Don't hold yourself to unrealistic standards ;)

[blissful plaza]

I don't know of any other standard unfortunately

[hollow panther]

If you're looking for some suggestions... get yourself a roll of 3/4" velcro and cut pieces to size so you don't need to reuse those twist ties. I also like to get the rubber dust plugs for the unused ports in my devices.

[blissful plaza]

Awesome suggestions! I'll order some right now

And a label maker eheh

[hollow panther]

Or the cable labels by the sheet if you have a laser printer already.

[ocean oar]

I like my Brother labeller, but you're gotta be wise about using it because the consumables are expensive and their design wastes 20mm or so per print. But if you print 10 labels it's still only one wasted piece, so the more at once the more efficient