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round crystal
static schooner
This whole discussion is better had in #1284966617670881350
Please move over there
round crystal
I'm not really after a specific thing
more just discussing home automation
I'm considering a home assistant green
Tediore, what's your setup?
peak slate
Cats ear broke, what do?
peak slate
I took the route of taking embarrassing photos to show people when she gets older
round crystal
me_irl
scenic radish
Tediore, what's your setup?
Optiplex 3050 USFF (I assume that's what you were asking about)
round crystal
Optiplex 3050 USFF (I assume that's what you were asking about)
Yes-ish
scenic radish
what specifics are you looking for?
round crystal
what brands you use?
Server wise I'm a fellow ex enterprise gear user, Lenovo ThinkCentre thing
With an ancient 11 8 9 series i5
checked /proc/cpuinfo, it's a Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-9400 CPU @ 2.90GHz
scenic radish
what brands you use?
more than i can count lol. Ecosmart, linkind, third reality, ikea, sonoff, tp-link, philips, and so on
past elk
I'm considering a home assistant green
I have a Green; I was gonna install on Hyper-V, but seeing that's not supported anymore, might as well take the next best option, which also works. It's smoother and quicker, too, probably.
round crystal
more than i can count lol. Ecosmart, linkind, third reality, ikea, sonoff, tp-li...
I have to ask, how's third reality treating you? I just learned about them
round crystal
I have a Green; I was gonna install on Hyper-V, but seeing that's not supported ...
Wait, Hyper-V got dropped?!
past elk
Wait, Hyper-V got dropped?!
It appears to have, yes.
round crystal
big oof.
scenic radish
I have to ask, how's third reality treating you? I just learned about them
their stuff is great. I have a couple of the nightlights which I'm using as alarm state indicators and some of the "renter-friendly" smart "switches"
oh and some of the leak sensors which are strange but work well
round crystal
wait they make nightlights?
I was looking at Amazon's smart plug with two outlets, light, and motion sensor
I made an automation years ago using Hue motion sensors that made the lights follow you at night
past elk
oh and some of the leak sensors which are strange but work well
I need to find a leak sensor that works...though would probably have to ask my Dad first about compatibility (he was a maintenance mechanic for around 30 years for various companies) because if the sink were to leak, I'd never know till the place flooded, probably.
round crystal
I need to find a leak sensor that works...though would probably have to ask my D...
IKEA ones seem to work fine for me
ocean ember
Hello, I am totally new to HA. I picked up a Yellow with CM4 and 512gb SSD. I need to set it up but I have a hardware question about voice assistant
past elk
IKEA ones seem to work fine for me
That's one of the brands I saw. Good to know.
scenic radish
I was looking at Amazon's smart plug with two outlets, light, and motion sensor
would recommend against that as you won't be able to use it with HA (locally at least; no clue if there's a cloud-based integration)
round crystal
would recommend against that as you won't be able to use it with HA (locally at ...
I figured. Amazon seems to be locking their devices down more and more 😐
I need to bring my night light automation back
round crystal
I should setup a voice assistant with my HA install
I'm one of the devs behind pywhispercpp
we're broken on windows and linux right now 🙃
ocean ember
I have an Emeet Luna Lite speakerphone that has a dead lighium ion battery. It still works with USB C connection. It has a nice 3 microphone array, built in noise reduction, mute/volume buttons, great speaker, and LEDs. Basically a bigger Echo Gen 3 hardwaree. Is there a way to use this with HA. Perhaps a Pi or NUC as brains?
round crystal
I'm genuinely lost on what automations to make
I'm just glad I don't have to deal with "YOUR DEVICE ISN"T RESPONDING" from siri every 3 seconds now
Somehow Siri can't control them, but HomeAssistant can?
Apple should stop expecting a 1ms response time from everything.
solar zealot
Simple is king
solar zealot
If you don't need an automation, don't create one because then you have to fix it if it goes wrong ;D
ocean ember
pywhispercpp sent me down a rabbit hole. Interesting that Korean has such a low error rate in whisper. Wonder why. Spanish is even lower!
round crystal
pywhispercpp sent me down a rabbit hole. Interesting that Korean has such a low ...
🤷
we just wrap the library
Also @scenic radish I got my homekit setup working again 🙂
Ty for listening to my ramblings :p
and sharing your home assistant setup
I just need to figure out how to hide the ecobee fan control from HomeKit and make scenes show as a button next
wait ecobee room sensors are motion + millimeter wave?
?!
wow this fucking sucks.
3 years, still no access to the VOC sensor
When is Nabu Casa gonna release a themostat?
Seems like the next logical step
Seriously, am I wrong? A ESP32 would be able to power it.
It's basically a microcontroller + mosfets to short two wires to tell a HVAC system to do something. Throw in some optocouplers just in case something goes wrong and you got a thermostat.
round crystal
Help. My cat isn’t responding according to Siri
I tried rebooting him and this is the state he’s in
scenic radish
wait ecobee room sensors are motion + millimeter wave?
Where did you see that?
round crystal
Where did you see that?
That’s my understanding from Google. They may not be millimeter wave. I know the thermostat itself has it now.
lapis cairn
I tried rebooting him and this is the state he’s in
Have you tried opening a food container? That usually resumes the cat.exe process.
iron granite
Have you tried opening a food container? That usually resumes the cat.exe proce...
If it is a linux cat, you have to make sure to chmod +x it.
lapis cairn
If it is a linux cat, you have to make sure to chmod +x it.
You would need to provide Wine to use cat.exe in Linux and that has inherent risk of danger.
desert cave
round crystal
Have you tried opening a food container? That usually resumes the cat.exe proce...
No response
I tried wine with him cuz he’s a Linux car
Linux cat*
iron granite
robust plume
We have something going! (dox'd myself sorry for the dupe message)
peak slate
I tried rebooting him and this is the state he’s in
Have you tried opening a can of food or treat bag near him
robust plume
Cost me $20 in AI credits to build this dashboard 😄
dawn badge
😮
unborn merlin
I need to find a leak sensor that works...though would probably have to ask my D...
shelly arent scumbags generally.. 😄
low delta
Where you guys get your home assistant preview edition and how long until the real deal comes out
robust plume
Gotta get the Homeinsiders app.
iron granite
Where you guys get your home assistant preview edition and how long until the re...
If you mean the HA Voice PE, stick to one of the official resellers.
There is no official timeframe when the potential next voice hardware might be released.
solid sorrel
Where you guys get your home assistant preview edition and how long until the re...
I still think the name "Preview Edition" was kinda dumb when everyone seems to view it as the "real deal". It's not a beta product ... sure, other hardware will likely come but don't hold back thinking the PE is limited
dawn badge
I still think the name "Preview Edition" was kinda dumb when everyone seems to v...
its goal was to set expectations. better slightly confusion than a people wrongly thinking that its a direct dropin replacement for billion dollar company projects
glacial knot
yea, should be Phounders Edition
dawn badge
yea, should be Phounders Edition
phreaking awesome 🙂
sharp dome
Where you guys get your home assistant preview edition and how long until the re...
Cloudfree.
The official reseller
low delta
You got a coupon
unborn merlin
It's basically a microcontroller + mosfets to short two wires to tell a HVAC sys...
SSRs, not mosfets. 😉
funny enough just made the first two boards in a thing like this.
round crystal
SSRs, not mosfets. 😉
why SSRs over mosfets?
unborn merlin
because HVAC controls on the smart thermostats I know are.. VAC not VDC. 😉
... also thermostats in general.
round crystal
Aren't there mosfets for AC?
round crystal
funny enough just made the first two boards in a thing like this.
go on about this
I want to know more.
Also, consider making it a real product.
unborn merlin
Also, consider making it a real product.
slowly stepping along..
unborn merlin
v1 of the board functions.. (with a heatsink added so the regulator doesnt murder itself and the board.. because I chose the wrong kind.. Oh well live and learn.)
primal laurel
Have you tried unpairing and repairing it?
Yes, he's stuck in holiday mode
round crystal
Shouldn't the esp32 be enough?
unborn merlin
Why do you have a esp32 and microcontroller?
because how many available I/O pins does that esp32 have
round crystal
oof.
unborn merlin
the board has 8x SSR outputs, 4x Optocoupler inputs, and 4x button inputs as an optional thing.
thats an I/O expander (MCP23017)
round crystal
why not use a RP whatever the model is
the microcontroller by the RPI foundation, doesn't it have tons of IO?
unborn merlin
because I didn't? 🤷♂️
round crystal
any reason for esp32?
unborn merlin
I like the xiao, I want that external antenna and I don't want to put effort in to do any RF shit myself.
round crystal
Curious
sharp dome
funny enough just made the first two boards in a thing like this.
Is that with pcbway
unborn merlin
this is gonna be in an HVAC air-handler area..
unborn merlin
Is that with pcbway
JLCPCB did some passive components, I did the rest with stencil and quickie reflow
round crystal
Ok, really dumb question now.
mild moss
hi, not sure where to ask, but i gather data with mosquitto_pub , i get data properly throught entities, but they dont forme a device. i added a device tag in my query, but it doesnt seems to work
round crystal
Is there any point to a SSR If you're using optocouplers to disconnect the control lines from the esp32?
unborn merlin
Is there any point to a SSR If you're using optocouplers to disconnect the contr...
the optocouplers are for input from 24VAC things
round crystal
Wait, what?
unborn merlin
like heat pump control signal saying "I am defrosting" or the water pump at the condenser.
round crystal
oh
I didn't know that's a thing
You seriously should pursue this
Make a full thermostat
unborn merlin
this board could be.
it has exposed i2c and other pins still, a small screen or etc could very much be attached.
round crystal
I know the audience is a bit niche, but imagine something like ecobee, but not $300+ and not locked down
unborn merlin
right now these probably.. more expensive than i wanted because dumb fuck tariffs
round crystal
big oof.
sharp dome
How much did they cost
unborn merlin
Havent tallied it yet because still working on it.
but more than I'd like thanks tot he..
sharp dome
round crystal
Can't you make it cheaper for everyone outside of the USA?
unborn merlin
264$ charge to UPS for check-on-delivery
round crystal
🙃
scenic radish
jesus
unborn merlin
Can't you make it cheaper for everyone outside of the USA?
yeah. Its going to be open source.
order some yourself
round crystal
ow
unborn merlin
🙃
round crystal
yeah. Its going to be open source.
order some yourself
no
I'd rather pay you
Support the person who makes it
scenic radish
|| does anyone outside the US want to adopt me ||
sharp dome
What
unborn merlin
also.. thats for 20x quantity
round crystal
also.. thats for 20x quantity
What's the goal sell price?
unborn merlin
I've made two so far, since I made this for someones homeassistant/house stuff
round crystal
$180?
$200?
(for a base model)
Like I imagine if you ship straight from China you can make it profitable.
unborn merlin
so just doing a quick calculation.
round crystal
I hope you can bring it to market
unborn merlin
You can still make some profit
well obviously
round crystal
$200 seems fair
unborn merlin
but the "fun" part of a "thermostat"
is programming up some pretty frontend
or soemthing.
the xiao isn't required.
round crystal
However you do it, just please bring it to market
Kickstarter it I guess
A fully open thermostat would be nice.
clear ferry
|| does anyone outside the US want to adopt me ||
Sorry, I have enough with two kids and minding sonoma
unborn merlin
is intended for "if you don't want to xiao"
in theory it could possibly be attached to one of those uh
CYD things
unborn merlin
thats actually a separate project for thisg uys house..
unborn merlin
going to probably use the old phone lines that aren't used (and their associated wall boxes) to put mmwave sensors in the boxes.
round crystal
you're designing the stuff we want.
BRUH
Please
please consider going to market
unborn merlin
🤣 in time
unborn merlin
current board has a bit of a problem because I used an LDO
a heatsink will make it work fine.. But its still not the right type of component chosen so.
primal laurel
butt anyways..
What's that
unborn merlin
an esp32 based climate-controller board that goes inside HVAC air handlers
and hijacks all the direct control stuff.
because the guy has a giant house with like..
5~ nest thermostats that are gen2 so cannot have remote sensors
and big house like that.. sort of really needs remote sensing on hvac stuff
smart vents eventually as well.. the next revision of this boards gonna have a bunch of extra bits probably. 🤷♂️
round crystal
I hate that living in a condo I'm very limited in what HVAC system I can use
we're PTAC
So like, fully contained ac heating with no central loop
unborn merlin
yeah this guy has..
round crystal
You have a blog?
unborn merlin
previously ac compresors + oil burner water loops to each thing
unborn merlin
yeah a heat exchanger on the air handler basically.
but also wired by fucking sociopaths.
round crystal
how big is this house?!
unborn merlin
large.
rather large.
🤷♂️
also there are blind splices on some of the thermostat control wires
which is why this board goes directly on each air handler, to bypass that garbage.
round crystal
Blind splices?
Also you got a blog?
if not please make one and document these things you build.
unborn merlin
Blind splices?
as in "instead of the thermostat wire going directly back to the guys air handler, it is spliced somewhere in the walls to also run 2 wires back to the boiler for the "call heat" signal"
round crystal
🙃
Please make a blog.
the whole concept of a headless thermostat that's wirelessly controlled is really nice
unborn merlin
whereas in reality (and not-an-asshole-land) you'd typically just have the "call heat" wire go to the air handlers board where it can be handled.
round crystal
Also, your thermostat, is it wifi / bluetooth only?
or you gonna add zigbee?
I refuse to use any smart device that's not Zigbee if I can
I fucking hate wifi
primal laurel
an esp32 based climate-controller board that goes inside HVAC air handlers
You're gonna write all the control algorithms as well or just set a temperature?
round crystal
You're gonna write all the control algorithms as well or just set a temperature?
Wouldn't it just be a linear target?
unborn merlin
well.. I am using esp32 Xiao C3
There is also what it looks like.. a C6 with.. identical pins?
round crystal
I don't know about the Xiao C3
unborn merlin
You're gonna write all the control algorithms as well or just set a temperature?
are you a crackhead?
the esp32 is just an esphome "climate" object
that can then be managed by something like that.
unborn merlin
I'm not out of my mind to do all the work myself
primal laurel
are you a crackhead?
https://github.com/jmcollin78/versatile_thermostat
That's what I do for a job lol
unborn merlin
could I? Possibly.
But other people have done it better than I would so.
round crystal
I'm not out of my mind
builds a themostat from scratch
wireless and smart
home assistant support first
unborn merlin
>builds a themostat from scratch
I'm being paid to, to be fair..
round crystal
???
round crystal
I'm being paid to, to be fair..
You still come off as one of those cracked hardware devs
You're casually making a fucking thermostat for a multizone system that's 100% wireless.
and just drop in
That's insane.
and you're not even selling it to the public
unborn merlin
I don't know about the Xiao C3
this is a xiao C3.
No zigbee.
unborn merlin
*and you're not even selling it to the public*
yet.
round crystal
this is a xiao C3.
No zigbee.
big sad
unborn merlin
this is a xiao c6.
it has
Enhanced Connectivity: Combines 2.4GHz Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax), Bluetooth 5(LE), and IEEE 802.15.4 radio connectivity, allowing you to apply the Thread and Zigbee protocols.
round crystal
If you can add zigbee, I'd love this
unborn merlin
do you see something common about that? 😄
round crystal
Zigbee >>>
unborn merlin
the point I am trying to make is
"if you want zigbee, then use a xiao C6 instead of a xiao C3."
primal laurel
You're casually making a fucking thermostat for a multizone system that's 100% w...
Companies have been doing that for many years. You can make it as complicated as you like
unborn merlin
Its intended.. good god calm down.. 😛
unborn merlin
Companies have been doing that for many years. You can make it as complicated as...
except in my case I'm not locking it down and being a dick..
round crystal
Companies have been doing that for many years. You can make it as complicated as...
Home Assistant native ones?
round crystal
except in my case I'm not locking it down and being a dick..
Make sure to get homekit certified :v)))
unborn merlin
I mean.. it can/maybe will be standalone as well.
unborn merlin
Make sure to get homekit certified :v)))
whats that?
Give apple money?
now you're definitely suggesting I take up a crack habit.
primal laurel
Home Assistant native ones?
Native in what way? HA can't run control algorithms
unborn merlin
I mean an esphome device can run natively on its own.
i wouldnt be surprised if someone hasnt already designed most of the control code.
round crystal
Native in what way? HA can't run control algorithms
I mean natively supports
No reverse engineering
My next request, and I'm asking for a unicorn
A zigbee lightswitch that looks like a normal single rocker lightswitch
and SSR
unborn merlin
ehhhh there is where problems happen
when you start fucking about with mains and things that go in switch boxes
round crystal
I jsut want it to look like a normal ligthswitch and feel like one
unborn merlin
is when you start needing like.. safety certification shit if I recall to sell things?
round crystal
Nothing else but that
I want to be able to flip it all day and have it do nothing, or run automations
The cloest thing is by Aqara, but you can't put two in one box becuase they're massive.
round crystal
I know about the philips hue thing too
unborn merlin
This product is in (Certifications), expected to complete by early July, with delivery anticipated in late August 2025. Please note, these dates are subject to change.
which look at that.. they're held up in certification shit
surpriseee
thus why I use the seed xiao modules
round crystal
I don't care about milimeter wave in it
unborn merlin
they're already FCC/CE certified for interference and etc
round crystal
I just want zigbee, ssrs, and the ability to put 3 / 4 together side by side.
The next cloest thing is Casetta
round crystal
And I'm very close to selling my kidney for Casetta switches but I need a Zwave dongle then
unborn merlin
you start stepping into uh
the lands of home automation systems
and those rat fucks.
wanting 3/4 controls in a single box is usually their area of stuff
round crystal
Fuck them
they always have a proprietary system that is laggy and buggy
then they want a monthly fee to use the hardware you own
unborn merlin
I'm aware.. just saying. 🙃
round crystal
Fucking hate them
unborn merlin
doing mains stuff is costly
my shortcut tends to be
shove a shell 2PM in a box
because shelly aren't a piece of shit company
unborn merlin
ahhh the things I would do, if I could build a house
round crystal
Zigbee Green devices :v
unborn merlin
all electrical boxes... would also have a 4 conductor wire in it
running like 24vdc + canbus wires in it.
round crystal
Ok, stupid question
unborn merlin
have low voltage control stuff.. etc 🙃
round crystal
CAN is a super common protocol, really reliable, and cheap to get started with
Why doesn't anyone use it for wired smarthome stuff?
unborn merlin
yup.
dunno but I'm gonna experiment with it after my next aliexpress order arrives? 😄
round crystal
It's designed for long distances and interference resistance while being low voltage.
unborn merlin
I mean I know that.. crestron uses.. I think.. rs485 or a variation of it?
round crystal
Wouldn't it make sense to make CAN bus light switches?
unborn merlin
(which is similar ish to canbus in termination style)
iron granite
Zigbee Green devices :v
If you plan to use something like that, be aware that ZHA does not support ZGP yet.
unborn merlin
yeah except.. then you need certified/safety allowed switches and etc
round crystal
If you plan to use something like that, be aware that ZHA does not support ZGP y...
I know, that's why i mentioned it
I was sad.
unborn merlin
electricians will not just throw in your jankily put together shit
round crystal
yeah except.. then you need certified/safety allowed switches and etc
Do you if it's not carying mains voltage?
unborn merlin
if its switching mains lights it sorta has to touch mains at some point.
round crystal
Like if it terminated into something like a phone jack / ethernet jack that just plugs into the switch, would anyone care?
I was thinking the light fixtures would have the mains side
The switches would just be smart switches that feel traditional but can be made to not actually switch anything, think Aqara multi channel switches
unborn merlin
yeah but then you gotta convince a big company
"Hey you want to make this product that some niche people will really love but nobody will really care about much?"
round crystal
True, I guess zigbee is here to stay
unborn merlin
"Oh by the way its still going to cost you the full amount."
round crystal
I still remember back in the day on hackaday they were talking about zigbee a lot
and people used zigbee modules to make RC cars
It's weird how far the tech has come
round crystal
Yea, but like, it used to be $50/module
now it's like, $1
in less than a decade
Zigbee is impressive.
unborn merlin
that sounds more like zwaves ass to me 😛
round crystal
I'd love a LoRA Zigbee tunnel
Think, two LoRA gateways tunneling Zigbee, like a SSH tunnel
Neither end knows they're being sent over a LoRA back haul
unborn merlin
... the guys house I do some work on also has a zwave door lock (he had it before I started doing stuff.. tho it works ish)
round crystal
My mailbox is really far from my condo and I'm too lazy to check it often
mild moss
Anyone knows why i get entitites, but no device from mosquitto_pub ?
the json looks like this : {"device": {"name": "bimbamboom", "mf": "GenuineIntel", "mdl":"Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4105 CPU"},"cpu_fan": "697"}
unborn merlin
My mailbox is really far from my condo and I'm too lazy to check it often
funny I trenched the guys yard while putting in new lights on the driveway and added an extra POE/ethernet line to go out to his mailbox.. 🤣
arctic quarry
My mailbox is really far from my condo and I'm too lazy to check it often
solution: remotely operated incinerator / mailbox combo
round crystal
... the guys house I do some work on also has a zwave door lock (he had it befor...
So my condo won't let us change our lock unless we use their locksmith
round crystal
funny I trenched the guys yard while putting in new lights on the driveway and a...
bruh please
This is my dream
A home covered in sensors that lets me see what's going on at all times
unborn merlin
yeah, thats a nice dream.. and more importantly
sensors that do not fucking talk to anything else but your house
iron granite
A little less "fucking" would be appreciated.
forest edge
nothing like having to replace a million batteries every so often
round crystal
nothing like having to replace a million batteries every so often
IKEA LADDA
unborn merlin
nothing like having to replace a million batteries every so often
... thats another thing I hate..
round crystal
Same
unborn merlin
so did I for that guys house..
the initial battery that came with a zwave door sensor lasted like a year
amazon one died in like 3mo or less
unborn merlin
... I just wish I could get at the damned wires that are for the doorbell near the door
then I could hook up some wires and etc, and tap off that.
round crystal
What doorbell?
round crystal
IIRC Ring has a solar panel
oh
nvm
wait, can't you just run a POE line easily?
unborn merlin
hardwired.. we avoided wireless/battery nonsense for all the cameras he had me put up
round crystal
wireless cameras are stupid
unborn merlin
wait, can't you just run a POE line easily?
not without ripping open walls and ceilings.
(which is the issue)
round crystal
not without ripping open walls and ceilings.
There's baseboards that you can buy that have a channel in them for this task
unborn merlin
I mean I have an endoscope now.. so maybe I'll try routing one through that side of the door near the outside thermostat thing
round crystal
run it outside of the house up the wall /s
unborn merlin
it actually runs off DC power supply because the transformer was putting out too much voltage for that unifi doorbell to be happy with it.
round crystal
CAT6A outdoor rated /s
actually, you could if you have POE switch outside
but also, that is probably not a good idea
unborn merlin
there is no easy/sane way to get a poe wire where I would want it. 🙃
round crystal
Unifi has a POE powered switch that can deliver POE apparentlly?
unborn merlin
yeah, becuaase unifi does like. POE++
unborn merlin
PoE (802.3af):This is the original PoE standard and provides up to 15.4 watts of power per port.
PoE+ (802.3at):This standard provides up to 30 watts of power per port.
PoE++ (802.3bt):This is the latest and most powerful PoE standard and provides up to 100 watts of power per port.
that is absolutely ridiculous.
solar zealot
Finally
round crystal
I need a POE switch with 10gb ethernet and POE++ on 16 ports
unborn merlin
yeah ++ is..
Power Delivery (Type 3): Up to 60 watts per port.
Power Delivery (Type 4): Up to 100 watts per port.
Voltage: 50-57 volts DC.
Current (Type 3): Up to 960 mA.
Current (Type 4): Up to 1,400 mA.
scenic radish
Unifi has a POE powered switch that can deliver POE apparentlly?
yeah, the unifi switch ultra™
unborn merlin
bend over for it then.
scenic radish
just ordered one actually
unborn merlin
because that sort of power is gonna hurt a lot.
unborn merlin
in the wallet that is.
scenic radish
eh, I do uber eats food deliveries by bike to fund this shit lol
round crystal
lol
My biggest hope is that Philips will fix their remote design
Kill the coincell.
unborn merlin
My biggest hope is that Philips will fix their remote design
why
the original battery I had for mine lasted like
unborn merlin
I dont even remember it was really goddamn long
round crystal
It's long, but like, I hate throwing batteries in the trash if I can avoid it
unborn merlin
well I do need to pick up more xiao's for the rest of these boards anyways so..
round crystal
send CRC232
unborn merlin
C6's it is I suppose since they're.. 9c more expensive than the c3's?
scenic radish
i got like 4 years out of my last hue remote battery lol
round crystal
I wish CRC232 batteries were rechargeable
unborn merlin
i got like 4 years out of my last hue remote battery lol
yeah that thing is well built.
round crystal
I know they exist.
unborn merlin
https://www.amazon.com/Rechargeable-Batteries-Lithium-Button-CR2032/dp/B07RYS4PTJ
So do rechargeable 2032's
unborn merlin
so charge it every 2 years?
🤷♂️
now you're just whining about irrelevant things..
forest edge
https://www.amazon.com/Rechargeable-Batteries-Lithium-Button-CR2032/dp/B07RYS4PT...
gross
round crystal
now you're just whining about irrelevant things..
I doubt they'll last 2 years
Not the way I use them especially
unborn merlin
sir this is literally my first real pcb of any complexity ive designed
now you're asking me to get into ultra-low-quiescent current shit. 😄
unborn merlin
... still need to make myself a test rig actually
round crystal
IKEA has nice remotes
unborn merlin
so I can test these pcbs as they're made easier without faffing about much
round crystal
do it
I have an IKEA E2201 RODRET dimmer
takes a single tripple A
oh shit they redesigned one of thier older remotes to not use coin cell batteries!
unborn merlin
yeah, there's the thing
scenic radish
|| triple screams ||
unborn merlin
you couldnt just use a single AAA in a philips hue remote
because its made for a +3v~ lithium coin cell
unborn merlin
they won't.
round crystal
at least make it have an internal rechargeable battery
with a USB C port
They're already like $40+
unborn merlin
I'm already in the future looking to just remove my hue stuff
spark badger
help.
unborn merlin
because their app just gets more scumbaggy over time
round crystal
keep the hardware
fuck the software
They have their smart bulb + remote on sale
👀
oh they got colour bulbs for $14
wow
unborn merlin
ive had two of my original hue color bulbs.. behave weird lately
scenic radish
They should redesign it
y tho
unborn merlin
start randomly blinking; unscrewed and let cool down and then..
round crystal
I had 3 die on me recently
tbf, I used them in "enclosed" fixtures
so I did it to myself.
unborn merlin
these are in can light things.. but its open enough for them to have connectivity so.. they can shut up.
round crystal
lol
unborn merlin
I still want to add.. 0-10v fan control to this board in next rev too
since the air handlers... I think rely on that
and it'd be nice to be able to control that fan precisely rather than "zero to yeet"
dawn badge
got some new shelly contact sensors.
the white one comes in a bigger box that the brown one which is odd
seems like the white one has bigger manual included whereas the brown one has a simplfied. i guess its newer and they reduced costs stripping it down
forest edge
I have an IKEA E2201 RODRET dimmer
I have one of these. use it sparingly to trigger on and off a couple of wall plugs
but probably going to ditch it for one of these in these at some point
round crystal
got some new shelly contact sensors.
the white one comes in a bigger box that th...
IKEA PARASOLL is really good
round crystal
The issue is Zigbee Green isn't supported by Home Assistant yet :v
dawn badge
i have a shelly ble one already and have been happy with it so just got a couple more
iron granite
The issue is Zigbee Green isn't supported by Home Assistant yet :v
By ZHA. Zigbee2MQTT does support it.
forest edge
yea I switched over to z2m awhile ago
the 433mhz kinetic switches are a little more common and I could always use one of those but the zigbee kinetic multigang is kind of interesting
scenic radish
By ZHA. Zigbee2MQTT does support it.
There's another reason @round crystal 😎
clear ferry
Zigbee2mqtt > zha 
dawn badge
as it turns out, as well as a smaller box, it also came with a dead battery 😛
just a cr2032 which i did have a spare for but thats just awkward
tidal bronze
the 433mhz kinetic switches are a little more common and I could always use one ...
Kinetic 🤣
forest edge
Kinetic 🤣
for someone who "just wants things to work without having to mess with anything" you should be excited over the idea
tidal bronze
Kinetic
forest edge
you think it's sorcery?
tidal bronze
Oh my bad. Didn't see the zigbee part. Please disregard. Not interested anyway.
forest edge
wait.. you thought kinetic was the same as telekinesis?
tidal bronze
Next time start with zigbee so we won't waste time.
forest edge
the protocol isn't the cool part tho
tidal bronze
Nopes, Next!
forest edge
your just jelly cause zwave dosen't get the cool stuff
tidal bronze
Goal is not to be cool, but reliable for decades. Ain't 23 anymore. 🤣
forest edge
removing a power source does exactly that..
tidal bronze
Going to show some additional love to my mmwave zones this weekend
forest edge
not going for the ones that have the presence and lux sensors built in?
tidal bronze
If it's going in a wall at my place, must've been in a wall for at least 5 years
forest edge
why 5 years?
tidal bronze
If it lasted 5, 10 is a reachable goal. don't have time to do Mickey mouse shit.
forest edge
and 5 is 3 years longer than your standard replace everything after 2 year ideology
tidal bronze
Ahh you are mixing servers with wall switches
forest edge
i'm mixing? lol
this is why they added "Californian" to the description of Insane in modern dictionaries
crisp oriole
Lol im back in amsterdam for a night out. Peeps cant ride bikes any more. 3rd bike crash i witness tonight
robust plume
Can someone direct me to where to report/gather info for what I think is a bug... when I run https://myhainstance.com/api/services/homeassistant/restart it seems like it does restart ha core enough to start showing my input booleans despite getting a 401
Kinda an odd bug... I honestly am a little confused as to how to get ha ... to run via SSH without getting a 401.
But this oddly works hitting that API endpoint to restart things
round crystal
so
I went to IKEA to buy AAA batteries and somehow they sold thier 4 cases of them in 2 days...
round crystal
Lol im back in amsterdam for a night out. Peeps cant ride bikes any more. 3rd bi...
most cyclists suck at cycling
round crystal
I went to IKEA to buy AAA batteries and somehow they sold thier 4 cases of them ...
but
I picked up 4 RGB bulbs
and a RGB light strip :v)
Replaced my nanoleafs
IKEA makes some pretty good smart home stuff
how are IKEA bulbs >= 90 CRI but Hue is 80 - 85~
forest edge
ikea rgb.. gross
ocean oar
how are IKEA bulbs >= 90 CRI but Hue is 80 - 85~
They probably achieve 90 at one specific colour temperature and brightness. I wouldn't take it as an indication of any kind of superiority overall.
round crystal
wha'ts wrong with IKEA RGB?
I mostly use it for white. The RGB is a nice thing to have
ocean oar
One of those things where they're just quoting the number right at the very top of the curve, but the values at the extremes could be much worse
round crystal
That's fine
ocean oar
(which to be fair everyone will be doing)
glacial knot
do you suspect Hue does it differently? IME their bulbs are actually kinda bad WRT CRI and brightness
they've had the least issues on zigbee for me (even the others only drop off once every ~year) but I don't consider them my best bulbs
round crystal
ikea rgb.. gross
What's wrong with IKEA RGB bulbs?
forest edge
they look pastel
ocean oar
do you suspect Hue does it differently? IME their bulbs are actually kinda bad W...
I just know that every bulb will have one specific colour temperature at which it produces its best CRI. The real question is how bad it is at its worst.
forest edge
🤮
round crystal
they look pastel
I like that actually
round crystal
I just know that every bulb will have one specific colour temperature at which i...
They all suck at their worst
I have a non smart non rgb bulb that's 90+ rated
cost $1.50
glacial knot
I just know that every bulb will have one specific colour temperature at which i...
Yea, we'd need the graph over the full multi-dimensional spectrum of colour and brightness. But that'd be one fat information leaflet
round crystal
IDK how they actually hit that, and made it suitable for enclosed fixtures
I bet it will last 1 - 2 years
glacial knot
though when I need good colours, I just set my bulbs to bright white 🤷
forest edge
nice for baby showers maybe
glacial knot
though I do want to get some full spectrum lamps. Just to see if it's actually nicer
round crystal
nice for baby showers maybe
automations
ocean oar
Weirdly, some my favourite smart bulbs are the LIFX "Nightvision" models. At night they shine IR (940nm, so completely invisible) so things are well lit for security cameras.
round crystal
Flashing certain colours then turning back to their old colour is a great way to signal things without a notification
forest edge
Weirdly, some my favourite smart bulbs are the LIFX "Nightvision" models. At ni...
still curious how long those will last
ocean oar
TBH me too, they do run a bit on the warm side
round crystal
well they're emitting IR
IR does warm things
my next step will likely be smart light switches
I can't find ones I like though
Some of the best options are wifi
glacial knot
aims to not have any switches
forest edge
_aims to not have any switches_
light switches?
glacial knot
Any but networking or Nintendo. But yea, those are the easiest to replace
forest edge
so your whole house will have 0 manual switches for lighting?
just making sure things are clear
glacial knot
yes. I currently have the bathroom switch. That's it
forest edge
hold on.. need a min to stop laughing
glacial knot
well, not 100% true. I also have one in my kitchen that I use once a week or so because the time based dimming/white temperature doesn't align with me that day
forest edge
so wtf you going to do if you need to see in the middle of the night and HA is not working or whatever other means you have controlling said lights?
use a flashlight?
glacial knot
deal with it if it ever comes to it 🤷
what do you do when there's a power outage?
hasn't had HA fail with power being on in a couple years
forest edge
power outage is not the same thing lmao
glacial knot
In which way is it not?
forest edge
it's uncontrollable
glacial knot
???
I see no reason to hedge against an even that happens every couple years, if I need counter measures due to other events that happen every couple years either way 🤷
forest edge
not being able to operate your lights when there is power has got to be embarrassing
glacial knot
Though I do have most of my lights on the Hue bridge for that
haven't used it since I switched from openHAB to HA I think? 
glacial knot
not being able to operate your lights when there is power has got to be embarras...
Now it just has to happen 🤷
forest edge
you are like the poster child for the whole cautionary tale of going too far lol
i'll never forget that person who came in here years ago that talked about how they messed up with putting thier bathroom light on a smart switch and the lights turning out while they were in the shower and couldn't see anything lol
glacial knot
you are like the poster child for the whole cautionary tale of going too far lol
🤷
Don't let your dreams be dreams cause doubters are dumb
forest edge
just know, when the inevitable happens and you come in here talking about it, i'll be laughing lol
glacial knot
good luck
@clear ferry do you do any chaos engineering?
I've been wondering for a while now, whether I should randomly reboot some of my systems...
but yea, I'm moving soon. And already thinking about which places can get by on PIR and which ones need mm-Wave
clear ferry
You have seen chaos monkey?
glacial knot
seen it. But that's about it
clear ferry
It's a fun inspiration for chaos engineering ideas at least
I don't do chaos engineering directly, but I do a lot of rigidy tests and failure tests in regards to handover of solutions
Like pulling random components out during running
And putting broken cables into the equation
glacial knot
oh right, you don't run any prod systems
clear ferry
I run a lot of them, but I do the testing before handover
After that it isn't my responsibility
thick dragon
There used to be an analytics channel before the forum-rebuild of this server. Where would you go for that now? Looking at running some SQL on my long term statistics as my provider is changing to TOU.
Guess perhaps #1284966582375813201 as it is mostly around an error in the perform_query function in the detective module provided in the Jupyter addon?
solar zealot
Sounds about right for an issue regarding the addon
crisp oriole
most cyclists suck at cycling
With those electronic bikes its even harder. They dont care anymore bikes have someone a strict pace. Going 10km/h then 30 then 10 again. Terribile to anticipate
lucid atlas
Can i do this operation in bulk?
fathom sparrow
Can i do this operation in bulk?
you cant, also, no support here.
🔨
lucid atlas
🫥
limpid pendant
People, i need help!! My wife is admitted to the hospital with acute leukaemia, and has to stay in the hospital for a long time, i want to expedite my plan to put camera’s around the house so she can tune in from the hospital and stay connected, see us at home in the pool and see the horses in the pasture.
I’m not in the position to do a lot of research and a lot of tinkering.
So is there something i can buy and have record and integrate to home assistant or some other service for her to stream from the hospital??
I have homeassistant running for a lot of things arround the house. We have nabu casa for the remote access.
Later i want to do stuff with ai recognition facial recognition and ai notifications from events so would be nice if the cams i buy now support that.
Anyone here that can help a desperate husband who’s life turned upside down in the last week??
iron granite
People, i need help!! My wife is admitted to the hospital with acute leukaemia, ...
#1284966353798697001 with the "Cameras" and "Recommendation" tags might be able to help
limpid pendant
<#1284966353798697001> with the "Cameras" and "Recommendation" tags might be abl...
Thanks!! Crossposted to there
round crystal
so we have a contractor over doing our kitchen backsplash
cute guy
lives in our building
I said good morning to him
he said good morning darling
my bf is in the livingroom lol
glacial knot
he said good morning darling
make sure you get stuck looking for something while he's in there
peak slate
Don't do the laundry, or do the laundry
Depends on what you're looking for
Or have your boyfriend do the laundry
We don't judge
rain adder
quick question:
im trying to setup the unifi network integration. Ive done all prerequisites like making a user etc. it gives me an 'Unknown Error Occured' message. At the same time i receive an email wiuth a MFA code... which i cant put into HA.
Does anyone know the solution?
lone dagger
forest edge
didn't work. signal still weak. try boosting it again
forest edge
he said good morning darling
what's wrong with darling? if you lived in the south it's common place the same with ma'am
round crystal
what's wrong with darling? if you lived in the south it's common place the same ...
I live in Canada
lol
so it's got a very different meaning
forest edge
well maybe the contractor is from further south lol
iron granite
Maybe he meant Darjeeling and it was just a rude request to get some tea.
"Good morning. Darjeeling!"
static schooner
BTW, is cold or lukewarm tea a thing? And why didn't he just say "the usual"?
Machine learning is disappointing even in the 24th century
static schooner
duh, iced tea. I lived in the US south for many years, but never got into iced tea
static schooner
I normally think of that in conjunction with coffee, but could be anything I guess
glacial knot
yea, I'm borrowing the term, but it's roughly the same
don't heat. Soak for longer 🤷
solid sorrel
always fun when you hear a random single beeeeep from somewhere in the room but you have no idea why or where from... there isn't anything in here that should beep 😂
solid sorrel
BTW, is cold or lukewarm tea a thing? And why didn't he just say "the usual"?
I always found this baffling, no real Brit would need to ask for it to be hot
dawn badge
always fun when you hear a random single *beeeeep* from somewhere in the room bu...
or maybe there was no beep and you are imagining it
solid sorrel
or maybe there was no beep and you are imagining it
with the level of tinnitus and isolation I endure, very very possible haha
crisp oriole
or maybe there was no beep and you are imagining it
There has been research in that area. And you can hear or feel your phone rining when it isnt the case.
dawn badge
There has been research in that area. And you can hear or feel your phone rining...
yeah its part of device and/or social media addiction studies right?
static schooner
depends on whether it's an imperial or metric raccoon
And what if it's holding a bunch of trash? Does it hunch over a bit?
last cedar
Sorry for being absent for a few days, I have been on a trash hiest that resulted in a trip to the pound, but I paid off the guard with doormats, so here we are
last cedar
And what if it's holding a bunch of trash? Does it hunch over a bit?
Just changes shape, will always be that long
crisp oriole
As if anyone doesn't know how long a raccoon is, jesus
I dont know i think 1/5 jesus. With out sandals
last cedar
It is the golden ratio, 5 raccoons to 1 jesus
crisp oriole
Watch out jesus is 100% none violence except when he takes his sandals off
crisp oriole
It is the golden ratio, 5 raccoons to 1 jesus
Just for length. I dont think you can replace jesus with an x amount of racoons
last cedar
No, I meant if you find 5 raccoons you get another religion
crisp oriole
If you see 5 racoons with a pentagram im sure they aint summoning jesus.
static schooner
Just changes shape, will always be that long
So, like the speed of light
last cedar
If you see 5 racoons with a pentagram im sure they aint summoning jesus.
You would never see any raccoon with a sausage anything
crisp oriole
https://tenor.com/view/pagefire-hot-dogs-satanic-worship-religion-grill-gif-2689...
I see 4 people instead of 5. Someone did not watch corpse party.
iron granite
I see 4 people instead of 5. Someone did not watch corpse party.
Fifth person is in the middle.
last cedar
I really need some help setting up my new access point though
crisp oriole
Fifth person is in the middle.
The sacrifice is not counted as chanting person. Or else he is trapped in limbo when he cant chant in our reality any more.
last cedar
I can't lift it to plug the cable in
static schooner
I see 4 people instead of 5. Someone did not watch corpse party.
iron granite
The sacrifice is not counted as chanting person. Or else he is trapped in limbo ...
Victim to a tragic typo.
"Nice to meat you!"
crisp oriole
Victim to a tragic typo.
"Nice to meat you!"
Im immune to comment about tragic typos
Im an alchemist
solar zealot
aichemist
pseudo edge
has anyone had tiles randomly start rounding to whole numbers? I think it started with the latest update 🤔
nvm, got it fixed by setting Display Precision under the device's entities
not sure why it disappeared in the first place
Thanks 😂
fathom sparrow
the integration likely changed the default settings, also this channel isn't for support, so that's why you got no responses
sharp dome
So many people don’t used channels correctly
dawn badge
friend is getting work done and had the sparky run networking... it has gone about as badly as it can go
shit it spliced randomly, every connector wired wrong etc...
solar zealot
fathom sparrow
friend is getting work done and had the sparky run networking... it has gone abo...
wtf is “the sparky “
glacial knot
electrician
iron granite
Cable manager for voltages above 60V
fathom sparrow
When I first got into smart switches, none of those effers new how to install them
~2015/2016
scenic radish
wut lol
Every smart switch I've ever had has made it very clear which wire is which
dawn badge
friend is highly technical but only software. struggles with stuff on the physical layer.
long story short, hes getting them to pull a new cable that doesnt have any splices in it and then will have it into wall plate on either end and he has a cable tester now to see the errors straight away
and yueah "sparky" is probably the "british term" for an electrician. it probably doesnt translate
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fathom sparrow
Every smart switch I've ever had has made it very clear which wire is which
The neutral requirement was throwing them off. And they had to figure out how to wire the aux switches. Guy did it wrong and I just ended up kicking him out and doing them all myself
forest edge
? just how many wires came off the thing?
fathom sparrow
Nothing crazy, just a 3 way switch with zwave
forest edge
well smart switches kind of reinvented the wheel. some of them don't use a typical 3 way wiring for the aux switches to work. you just run the hot and neutral to any additional switches
smart switch to smart switch
fathom sparrow
Yeah, that’s what they didn’t understand. I had to draw a diagram for the dude and he still fucked it up
forest edge
imagine that's how they get around the 4 way wiring mess lol
make the switches wireless communicate between each other rather than over wire
I have 1 4 way "dumb" switch in my house and that took me a min to figure out lol
fathom sparrow
I had to draw it out, and figure out where to put the master, was a pita
But I wanted someone else to figure that out 🤣🤣🤣🤣
forest edge
lol
did they not look at the instructions?
I can't really blame electricians during the early phase of smart switches. they came in fast
clear ferry
That's what she said
fathom sparrow
did they not look at the instructions?
I donno, I was annoyed and just made the guy leave
This was years ago, easily before the smart home craze
grand fossil
Hello, how to find HA URL? I am on Ipad and Macbook…Green device is solid white, and blinking green and yellow…but time runned out and not finding any server and also https://homeassistant.local:8123 not working
tidal bronze
I have 1 4 way "dumb" switch in my house and that took me a min to figure out lo...
4 way huh?
wraith void
is there a channel i can seek some help from someone 1on1 cause i'm not at all knowledgabel about linux or anything really, i was running home assistant in docker after after i migrated it from core or what it was before, and i tried to update it but i might have messed up copying commands that didnt have my config folder in them so it reverted back to vanilla but i have no earthy idea what it was originally and what to point it to now, old backups dont work if i try to restore from that, probably cause they are pretty old, and im kinda lost in the file structure cause there might be fragments of the old ha instal or something, before i moved it to docker, and considering i cant even copy things in the file explorer cause it doesnt have the permission, and have to do it in the terminal, im lost, also it had all the house heating cooling in it and the wifes gonna kill me in the morning
primal laurel
iron granite
forest edge
4 way huh?
surely you tree hugging hippies know a little something about that lol
forest edge
switching all control over to Home Assistant before you even learn how to manage Home Assistant has got to be the funniest posts ever posted in here.
tawny flume
Damn it! Tuya Local for specific hardware is a nightmare, a complete day to accomplish integration and block tuya cloud connection from wan
I bought a portable air conditioner because my central unit is broken and unfortunately this one is tuya, the only tuya device and never again will another enter my life
round crystal
I bought a portable air conditioner because my central unit is broken and unfort...
why?
tawny flume
tuya are painful for local only access with specific device when default function are not recognize, specify "dp_id", get local key etc....advanced function
nova osprey
home assistant slowly turning into my job, but I had to make a diagram to not get confused, lol. I think I would love nodered, never tried it.
unborn merlin
i'd rather dive straight into.. that C# embedding thing over nodered tbh.
... or wish there was a kotlin version.. I mean I could make it.. But like.. Effort.. 😛
solar zealot
No one would love node red
It's terrible, one of the worst implementations of flow based programming
nova osprey
oh really? I've only seen screenshots of it and in my mind it made a lot of sense, since sometimes chains of sensors can get a little complicated to think trough (as you can see from my diagram above, lol)
desert cave
Yeah, i love node based coding and it's pretty bad
solar zealot
oh really? I've only seen screenshots of it and in my mind it made a lot of sens...
It lacks pretty much any qol feature you could think off.
Figuring out which input or output something is supposed to belong to? Gotta tag and modify the messages after every step
Want to ensure it processes stuff from multiple sources that provide data at different rates? Nearly impossible
nova osprey
ok that doesn't sound so good 😄
solar zealot
One can make this work but it's like using a forklift to push the reset pin on a device
nova osprey
Wouldn't it be nice if home assistant could have a visualization like my diagram above, native? ^^
solar zealot
Many things be possible if someone is willing to build it
snow hedge
Question, has anyone else noticed that webkit based browsers leak memory when viewing the HA dashboard? Kinda tempted to try and chase it upstream
solar zealot
Let's just say I would not be surprised about anything in regards to webkit
Juice not worth the squeeze generally
snow hedge
But yea, it aggressively leaks memory, eg the HA companion app crashes every half hour on my wall tablets (android debugger shows it's killing the webkit process), wallpanel.xyz, chrome itself (even on my desktop PC) also the same, while Firefox is fine
solar zealot
Doesn't happen for me at least
snow hedge
Could well be a third party card, maybe I'll play some whack-a-mole there
solar zealot
Check the community mods you may have installed
Browsers have some memory tracing capabilities in their dev tools (F12 if I recall on most of them, then somewhat on performance)
snow hedge
Was also thinking the same, may be better than just playing whack-a-mole, find out where the leak is coming from.
solar zealot
The alternative would be to turn off all custom stuff by removing it and then re adding them one by one
Not sure which one would bring results fastest
snow hedge
Will go down the memory debugging route anyway I think, assuming it is a third party frontend card (which seems likely), I am using that card and probably want to keep it, so better to find it and squash the bug if I can \o/
snow hedge
Seems like it was card mod, from my amature reading of the memory debugger, it looks like it was retaining many, many state changes, every frame from my two cameras on the dashboard even. After uninstalling card-mod, memory utilisation is stable. \o/
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round crystal
IKEA LADDA batteries are amazing
2450 AA's in my meta quest 3 controllers
Since they fixed the firmware bug with the headset where it would wake up randomly and wake up the controllers, the batteries have lasted weeks between charges.
In all my smarthome stuff, they're going strong
I think the only thing that's killed them so far is my philips hue motion sensors
my first batch of Amazon basics rechargeables had to be replaced because they were faulty
This new batch seems to be good
I wonder how long until we get a framework of home iot stuff
like frame.work
the laptop guys
last cedar
Since they fixed the firmware bug with the headset where it would wake up random...
I believe the 2450s are rebadged eneloop batteries, they are very very good
Same with the 900mAh AAA ones
round crystal
I believe the 2450s are rebadged eneloop batteries, they are very very good
They are!
I had to go to three IEKAs to get them
and then they were no where to be found until a worker discoverd someone hid them
I use them in my garbage cans too
I have their 1900 MAH ones too
round crystal
I love raccoons
last cedar
They run best on ikeas 2450mAh batteries 😄
last cedar
I haven't run into issues buying or finding them when I have been in store previously, but that might have changed
All there zigbee remotes are aa batteries now, used to be cr2032
So maybe they sell more?
round crystal
AAA now
Thank god.
I fucking hate cr2032
lIke why can't we make a high mah rechargeable one?!
last cedar
Aha, is it aaa?
There are 457 aa packets in my local store 😛
And the ones I have are all white, they seem to be some sort of odd green colour now
round crystal
you have the old 900mah
they're now 700mah
All I want for christmas is a 2000 mah AAA
round crystal
I'm going to rob your house.
🔫
gib
gib me the batteries
now
I'm finally charging my meta quest controller batteries
last cedar
No idea why I bought so many
glacial knot
ohh, are those the AA(A) ones with a USB C port to recharge?
round crystal
No idea why I bought so many
because they're cheap and good
round crystal
ohh, are those the AA(A) ones with a USB C port to recharge?
no
IKEA doesn't do that
last cedar
ohh, are those the AA(A) ones with a USB C port to recharge?
Those are the aaa nimh ones, old style
round crystal
I wish IKEA would make their battery charger USB C
and their smart light strips
I hate proprietary adapters.
glacial knot
ohh, so onetime use batteries?
last cedar
Ladda means "charge" in Swedish
round crystal
neat
TIL!
But also, gib those 900 mah AAAs 🔫
I need them
It means 2 - 3months more without recharging
last cedar
Tvättbjörn is a great word (it is a very cute black and white animal that washes its paws a lot, and loves trash)
glacial knot
twat björn?
last cedar
I started modifying my xaiomi temp/ humidity sensors to aaa batteries
They last about 8 seconds on zigbee firmware and the cr2032
glacial knot
I sometimes want to take batteries out of things and just add some form of permanent power supply...
round crystal
I started modifying my xaiomi temp/ humidity sensors to aaa batteries
how?
round crystal
I sometimes want to take batteries out of things and just add some form of perma...
I'm ok with batteries
as long as they last a long time.
glacial knot
Kinda. Depends on the thing
round crystal
I'm mostly using batteries in door sensors
glacial knot
if it's a whole quest to figure out which batteries this thing needs and where to buy them and how to access them...
last cedar
So far I have just soldered on an aaa battery holder, but I am looking to 3d print cases for them, that fit into the schneider exakkt faceplates
round crystal
lol nice
round crystal
if it's a whole quest to figure out which batteries this thing needs and where t...
I hate when it's like that
last cedar
So idea is to move to a 3x1 frame and print a pice that lets the xaiomi thing sit in it
And yes, I do need to actually put the thing in the wall 🤣
round crystal
what outlet is that?
Italy?
I know it's not Japan, and it doesn't look like India
last cedar
Schuko, probably what they also use in Italy
glacial knot
So idea is to move to a 3x1 frame and print a pice that lets the xaiomi thing si...
what in the DIY is going on here?
glacial knot
yea, it's most of Europe
last cedar
what in the DIY is going on here?
glacial knot
Is that permanent? or are you gonna put some ceiling under it?
round crystal
that's a lot of exposed cable
last cedar
One thing at a time
glacial knot
I remember you are the one with the staircase of despair so...
last cedar
The wires are inside the plastic conduit
round crystal
I want to see the staircase of dispair
last cedar
They are dusty now
round crystal
show
last cedar
glacial knot
that looks way too normal
static schooner
You got fires handled, at least
round crystal
be me
michelle
invite over the Ecobee executive that said we should remove developer access and disable existing API keys
tell them we have a tea room in the basement
they haven't been seen in weeks
last cedar
I spent so much on aaa batteries I couldn't afford to tidy up my stairs 🙂
round crystal
tell police you never saw them
last cedar
It was awful when we moved in
glacial knot
last cedar
I redid all the electrics and am going to start doing a room at a timr
glacial knot
don't worry, Michelle lives in a warm country
glacial knot
I thought Canada gets brush fire hot in summer these days
round crystal
why is YouTube suggesting so many pro nuclear videos to me
round crystal
I thought Canada gets brush fire hot in summer these days
We have one!
Manitoba has one burning right now, and the smoke came here to Ontario
Our poor car went from 4L/100km to 9/100km
that's how bad air quality dropped.
last cedar
I am going to sort the insulation eventually, just sorted the outside of the house so far
round crystal
Can I make one suggestion?
Since your walls are open and ceiling, I'd run CAT 7 (solid copper) throughout the entire house
Even to places you don't think you need it.
last cedar
@glacial knot I added a low voltage junction box now, to keep the standard low
round crystal
Just run drops everywhere you can
last cedar
Just hanging there
glacial knot
why is YouTube suggesting so many pro nuclear videos to me
big tech's investing into nuclear energy these days 
last cedar
Can I make one suggestion?
It is a great suggestion and I am already on with it!
round crystal
Make sure it's rated for 10gbps and soilid core copper so you can do POE+++
round crystal
big tech's investing into nuclear energy these days <:rooH:927716638755799081>
I fucking LOVE nuclear
I live < 10km from a nuclear reactor.
glacial knot
I used to live within 2km
last cedar
I have done cat6, 20mm conduits so I can run 2 feeds in each
round crystal
It's a big box full of very angry glowing rocks that we piss off so they glow hotter and boil water so I can play video games
round crystal
I have done cat6, 20mm conduits so I can run 2 feeds in each
Why 20mm?
What if you need to run more drops one day?
OR are you doing 2 20mm conduits per drop area so you can run 4 if ever needed
last cedar
round crystal
I am extremely jealous
last cedar
I am doing at least 2 cables per room.
Garage got 6, electrical room 6, ran 10 up to the loft, 24 to upper floor
round crystal
we just bought a condo and learned it's from the era of metal studs
glacial knot
I'm moving soon and need to figure out if/how i can run cables then 
round crystal
Every single stud is metal. The drywall is 1/2" thick (1.25cm)
Our ceiling and floor are concrete.
No running cables for us :v
last cedar
I'm moving soon and need to figure out if/how i can run cables then <:rooD:11968...
Just do like me, leave them hanging 😄
round crystal
I'm moving soon and need to figure out if/how i can run cables then <:rooD:11968...
there are baseboards for this
glacial knot
yea, I'll probably have a couple running along the ceiling/walls :/
round crystal
run them behind baseboards
wherever you can
Inside walls vertically is very easy
glacial knot
Have you heard of bricks? 
round crystal
ah, you're german.
glacial knot
^^
glacial knot
granted, I think most of this place is actually not brick. But that's part of the fun to figure it out
nah, 24cm I think
round crystal
still impressive af
glacial knot
the 1m ones are ooold.
round crystal
imagine the insulation
last cedar
One of the reasons I bought this house was because it needed gutting, so it wouldn't matter if I put in drops everywhere
round crystal
Sound, heat, radiowaves (no wifi interference!)
round crystal
One of the reasons I bought this house was because it needed gutting, so it woul...
I'd love to do that
glacial knot
wifi interference is pretty much not an issue with single family and duplex homes either way
in my dorm I had 45 networks at some point
last cedar
Swapped windows and doors on upper floor, added insulation and new wood cladding, redone all electrics put in mains water and sorted ventillation system out, so far
glacial knot
right now I have 24 in range. But I think 5 of them are mine 
round crystal
in my dorm I had 45 networks at some point <:rooKek:1326597271814672564>
In my old condo where we rented, 90+
In this one, I can see about 8
glacial knot
yea, ventilation is a big one
round crystal
Swapped windows and doors on upper floor, added insulation and new wood cladding...
oh shit ventilation is a messy one
Make sure you have dampers for all external vents