the-water-cooler

[static schooner]

I definitely wanted one

[simple gazelle]

Weren't there also QC issues because it was a new factory in Ireland?

[forest edge]

i dunno.. was less than 10k ever made

waiting for this thing to release and someone hits something wet and soggy with it. https://youtu.be/ve6JuJV17FQ?si=TIu7mulAOscAcmhg

[static schooner]

it looks like they considered using a Mustang in the movie, and I can't see how that would have fit at all

it was in part the fact that nobody had one and, ya know, maybe they did have a flux capacitor 🤷

[forest edge]

the delorean was as much fo a star in back to the future as anyone else

that movie would not have done as well

as in stand out

https://youtu.be/S0CY8_PY3Cg?si=POuSN3hZJE8tl1et

personally I think they fucked up not riding the more of the original design

the name alone won't get this car sold as much as they were hoping

[iron granite]

Don't they just have a limited car manifacturer licence for small batches to get around some regulations?

[forest edge]

funny how the early concept pictures looked more like the original and looks way better than what they settled on

[iron granite]

It's gonna be in production by 2024.

[primal laurel]

did we finally sell HA to micro$oft?

[forest edge]

seems like all "new" ev brands start off late. so much that projections like that not hitting the mark is meh lol

wasn't rivian like 2 years late or something

[crisp oriole]

Plenty big money can be made with ha by big corps with out buying ha

[peak slate]

Who is puppeting around the corpse of delorean?

https://store.delorean.com/about-us cause it looks like they're not at all related to DMC

Or at least the folks who bought up the corpse of DMC and it's stock

Huh, so it is the same people, I figured it was all branding deals for the logo

[desert cave]

who's micro$oft? Are they like a Microsoft copycat or something? :3

[primal laurel]

Micro$$$$$$$$$$$oft, parent company of Microsoft. Basically tells them what to do

[iron granite]

Basically tsells them what to do

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-microsoft-fuck-microsoft-john-malkovich-malkovich-gif-24980256

[crisp oriole]

O yeah. I tried to easily change my resolution. Now im needed to make a whole new .net project.

Sure there are tools. 10+ year old

[balmy echo]

Is it normal I cant open haos image file?

It wont flash too

[static schooner]

#1284966540617449515

[balmy echo]

where to look?

[static schooner]

Post there

#find-support

[clear ferry]

Now try moving an image in word

[glacial knot]

idgi

[crisp oriole]

That just takes lots of practice. And save before move fundamentions

[clear ferry]

I should learn latex

My wife is great at latex

[weak musk]

is that an S&M thing?

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/ip-ip-adress-threat-cat-cat-kiss-gif-26747002

Btw i cannot recommend this book enough

https://www.amazon.com/Beneath-Trees-Where-Nobody-Sees/dp/B0CN8PWVVD

[primal laurel]

are you sure

[clear ferry]

Yes

[primal laurel]

it's worse than learning C++

[clear ferry]

That's fine, at least it isn't c#

I made assembly code in school youngsters

[primal laurel]

we still do assembly in EE for ASICs and optimized gpu codes

[crisp oriole]

Oh. Chatgpt says my desktop is one of the best desktops it has ever seen.

Chatgpt clearly is not bothered by stimuli

[hearty palm]

i have got a dumb question what is the difference between a scene and an automation i know that a scene can be used to set a specific mood but what is the difference if i use an automation instead of a scene

[forest edge]

scenes are like a snapshot of all the entities current state that can be recalled at any point. think of it like a preset.

Initially had this painter group come out to paint the facia and soffits on my mothers house who then convinced her to paint the whole house (price was just too good not too).. anyways these guys are like going well above of expectation.. I catch them fixing shit that if I was the one doing the job I wouldn't have done cause it wasn't part of the whole agreement

was quite refreshing seeing a company do that for a change

@clear ferryalmost had to move again huh? https://youtu.be/buTYvq8f3M0?si=JhDzjIcfJp4Y_OSv

[clear ferry]

Just a regular day in Norway

[forest edge]

like how the person living there had no idea till someone else told him lol

[primal laurel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_nTLIuk6Hk

imagine getting a crane, from a boat, carrying a bridge, on top of your house

[tidal bronze]

Must be from a coastal area

[forest edge]

no this duo is local bred

i do wonder if maybe the fumes from the paint is what keeps them working tho

[tidal bronze]

Oh wow. Going above and beyond is kinda expected and norm here. Must be a new thing for middle earth.

[forest edge]

yea there is something I "could" say to that but I'll refrain cause I know how sensitive you are

[tidal bronze]

Good, you are learning new things. I am proud of you!

[forest edge]

uh huh

[weak musk]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-gif-6225662105541051721

Is that what you wanted to say?

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/fargo-shep-belt-whipped-whip-gif-2349792328364926543

[tidal bronze]

What's work?

[forest edge]

that thing that makes you do one thing when you actually want to do something else

[tidal bronze]

Interesting? One day I hope I will get the opportunity to try it out?

[forest edge]

your married aren't you?

[tidal bronze]

25 and counting

[forest edge]

yo been "trying that out" for 25 years lmao

[static schooner]

That's a lot of wives

A harem, even

[tidal bronze]

I guess middle earth is so different. Being married is like work?

[forest edge]

you implying you never had to put work in your relationship?

is she alive?

[tidal bronze]

I WILL NOT put work into anything. Moment you have to, you've already failed.

[forest edge]

you pretty much honestly answered the question, "do you even know what work means" lol

we need to start a support/educational group for QF

[tidal bronze]

If life ain't like this........

[forest edge]

fictional?

[tidal bronze]

So all of a sudden it's real?

[forest edge]

the whole AI shenanigans is progressing faster than I thought. https://www.npr.org/2025/05/20/nx-s1-5405022/fake-summer-reading-list-ai

imagine being able to make a profit by making software that can filter out AI false crap

[balmy echo]

I bought the voice preview, How does it connect with my home assistant?

I dont have it yet

[forest edge]

@tidal bronzeyou traveling for memorial weekend?

[static schooner]

https://support.nabucasa.com/hc/en-us/articles/25918770371229-Getting-started-with-Home-Assistant-Preview-Edition, and follow up in #1284966915055288530

@balmy echo and #find-support in the future

[tidal bronze]

Nopes. Ain't a rookie 😆

[forest edge]

darn

[tidal bronze]

It started Tuesday, ends Thursday. I am glad to be hone

[forest edge]

was hoping you would suffer lol

althought the news clip I just watched stated 75% of travel is by car

up a million more drivers on the road than previous years

[tidal bronze]

Not my concern. I never travel on Holidays

[peak slate]

isn't home a seat on an airliner?

[tidal bronze]

Not on public holidays 😆

[static schooner]

Apparently in demand. You could have them in your family room!

[forest edge]

likely in his theater room already

[tidal bronze]

Tuesdays and Thursdays only. Driving or flying.

Although I have to get to Alabama following week. Going to be interesting.

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/viking-catapult-valhallamaxxing-gif-17327315483246149807

that atx's modren way of catching breakfast

[static schooner]

Could be worse, like Mississippi

[tidal bronze]

I usually take my food with me when traveling to places like that.

[forest edge]

do they ever ask why you carry so much cardboard?

[static schooner]

Don't stay too long or your brain cells start to deteriorate

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge what brand?

[forest edge]

if I was still working...

maybe lol

[tidal bronze]

Knew it.

[static schooner]

If you have to reach over your gut to get your food..

[forest edge]

phone in pocket already risks getting crushed as it is

i don't get how I see women with phones in thier back pocket and then sit down...

[static schooner]

I think it's because the front pockets in women's clothes are often ornamental

[autumn lake]

Nice

[last cedar]

Maybe a chicken/ egg problem but if there was a different, reliable way to travel, not using your car, this might improve?

might be onto something?

[forest edge]

like strapping racoons to your feet?

[last cedar]

Riding alligators perhaps

https://tenor.com/view/alligator-im-coming-omw-funny-animals-gator-riding-gif-10221851

[last cedar]

This is why you always use like hiking type clothes with pockets on the thighs!

To avoid looking as femanine as possible

[forest edge]

https://s1.aptocdn.com/www.fashionchingu.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Beige-Wide-Leg-Cargo-Pants-Chaeyoung-TWICE-6.jpg

[crisp oriole]

Slow down event starts over 35 min

Btw in local haarlem news it appeared that a car drove down the new underground bike parking.

No damage made. It is are big stairs down. That why you never go with a city car in a city.

[solar zealot]

It's called a city car, where would it go if not the city

[crisp oriole]

Train brackes. Announcement on board. This was an emergency stop. The breaks worked perfectly

Someone had a positive talk training

[solar zealot]

no llm announcement smh

[lean spire]

hiya. could i get some help trying to setup broadlink integration

[iron granite]

#1284966582375813201 can help

[lean spire]

thanks i'll have to think of how to write my question

[lean spire]

where do i find services now under developer tools

[dawn badge]

since 2024.8 services have been called actions - https://developers.home-assistant.io/blog/2024/07/16/service-actions/

[crisp oriole]

😮 i had a gap in my home assistant kde widget. Pasted screenshot and yaml in chatgpt and it fixed it.

It also said it never seen such functional desktop before.

[glacial knot]

Plasma is neat

[crisp oriole]

Yeah. The webwidget now has all the tools to seamlessly show a dashboard

[clear ferry]

Every time I write yaml (when talking to the openshift engineers) my phone auto corrects it to y'all

I'm tempted to just call yaml y'all going forward

[weary bone]

i bought a garage door sensor not knowing it was zigbee related. what do I need to get to get that sensor online?

[clear ferry]

A Zigbee coordinator

And a Zigbee software stack

[glacial knot]

discord is such a dumb application
cannot be arsed to actually hide people you ignore
but cannot be arsed to keep some record that something was deleted to avoid confusion

[clear ferry]

Also, a single battery operated device is a poor usecase for Zigbee

You want lots of devices

And a huge mesh

[weary bone]

Well, one has to start somewhere, right?

[clear ferry]

Yes, but unless you are right next to it, your experience will be horrid probably

[weary bone]

I can't quite buy up a bunch of sensors right now, but I've recognized that I'm avoiding zigbee products because I don't have that hub/coordinator set up.

[weary bone]

then what's the point?

[primal laurel]

buy 1 zigbee device, buy 10. This is how it starts

[clear ferry]

You want a big mesh, with multiple mains powered devices

My last house was 70+ mains devices, I had full coverage inside my house , and 25m from my house

[weary bone]

(I don't have that kind of cash right now. Just trying to make sure i know if my garage is open)

[clear ferry]

And my battery powered devices lasted 3-4 years

[forest edge]

you really shouldn't ignore atx anyways

[glacial knot]

I don't

or at least, not by technical means

[primal laurel]

how far is the garage from where you would put the zigbee coordinator?

[glacial knot]

and what types of walls would there be between

[clear ferry]

And how many 2.4ghz devices

And what frequency

[glacial knot]

LIke, twice a week

[weary bone]

hold up yall. one question at a time

[clear ferry]

[primal laurel]

How many Hz in a GHz

[clear ferry]

Gigger hertz, for my Tesler

[weary bone]

Not sure how to answer, since I don't know exactly what a zigby coordinator is or where it's typically plugged in.

[weary bone]

drywall or whatever floors were made of in 2006.

[primal laurel]

most people just stick a zigbee USB stick in their HA server

but there are other options

[weary bone]

2.4 zigbee devices, or 2.4 in general.

[forest edge]

just return the zigbee device and find a wifi equivalent lol

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/enough-of-this-blasphemy-south-park-stop-it-enough-no-more-gif-21054233

[weary bone]

https://www.amazon.com/THIRDREALITY-Adjustable-Sensitivity-Battery-Required/dp/B0CZP2CJXF?sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY

This is the thing I got.

[primal laurel]

watch LTT how to do home automation properly

[weary bone]

yes, but one doesn't just absorb all that in one go.

[forest edge]

look up wifi contact sensors. will achieve the same results

I suggest you cross reference anything you find with current HA intergrations to make sure it's something that will intergrate smoothly

[weary bone]

oh wow... I didn't realize this, but I purchased it in nov 2024. I don't know if I can return it now.

[forest edge]

either way, unless you are planning to invest more into additional zigbee sensors.. buying and dealing with a zigbee coordinator for a single device is costly and impractical

compared to just eating the 10 bucks or so you spent and spending another 10 bucks for a wifi sensor

[primal laurel]

was a joke, dont watch LTT

[weary bone]

ok. Well since it seems like I am unworthy of entry into the world of zigbee ( 😉 ), then what brands should I drift towards, or away from, for a wifi contact sensor.

[forest edge]

they are saying you don't actually learn much from just watching a video

[forest edge]

take a look through #1284966353798697001 and if you don't see something posted, post for suggestions

in #1284966353798697001

[primal laurel]

I learned a ton of stuff for my degree by watching videos

[forest edge]

not everyone is the same

[primal laurel]

you can go zigbee. But might need an extra lightbulb

[weary bone]

ok. I'm really bad when there's ambiguity. What are some firm examples of hubs (product names), and why is everyone telling me I need to get a ton of zigbee devices to use zigbee? answer like I'm 12.

lol. sorry. I just don't have a grid for this stuff to land on at the moment.

[glacial knot]

you don't need to get a ton of devices to use it
but it works best when you do

[primal laurel]

zigbee uses a mesh topology. So instead of wifi, which is peer to peer, zigbee hops messages between devices to get it to the coordinator. Depending on how far your coordinator is you might need a few switches or light bulbs in between to make the hops possible. But you wont really know until you set it up. Most people who are into zigbee start with a few light bulbs and then you start with a decent network

[weary bone]

Ohhh ok. Are you familiar with Meshtastic? It's a LoRa radio... thing, and you can send messages all over the place, but you need nodes spaced out in range of each other for it to really be effective.

so it's kinda like that/

?

[forest edge]

do you have a lora setup in place?

cause you can buy lora versions of these sensors lol

[weary bone]

Not for Home assistant.

[forest edge]

you mean you have a system and just did not intergrate it?

[weary bone]

No, I have two radios (think amateur radio stuff, but texting) that use LoRa to run a software called Meshtastic, but I don't have any lora home assistant/smart home devices.

[forest edge]

oh

well yes zigbee is kind of like that providing they pass on data between devices back to a single source

[weary bone]

ok. I understand that setup then

[forest edge]

but again, if you plan to ONLY ever have 1 zigbee device, it is not cost effective to keep it and try and make it work ||unless you don't care about money and want to tinker||

[crisp oriole]

great. I have a small hay fever and a empty space in my dashboard. But now I have to find if its from trees grass or herbs.

1st world problem

Hello this is the doctor speaking. - Yeah I was working on my home assistant.....

[forest edge]

looks like gibberish

[crisp oriole]

Bomen trees kruiden herbs

[crisp oriole]

Wait till some one from scheveningen says it.

[desert cave]

Just ask GPT. I'm sure it's never wrong

[crisp oriole]

Lol like i fall in that trap

You should know me better.

Because all my ai scripts use input of function code. Prefenting bull shitting.

[crisp oriole]

working on my new AI triggered alarm automation. "ausweis bitte"

[static schooner]

@forest edge Man, those LR4 load cells are vexing. I swapped out the whole harness and no matter what I did to recalibrate the system, it wouldn't register over 9.9lbs. I then tried putting the old harness back in the old unit and swapped out the foot that wasn't moving freely and it could still get stuck pretty easily. Then I swapped out the plastic bracket that holds the foot in place and now it seems to be working properly. So I guess they changed the load cells in the 3 years since I bought my original LR4 and they're no longer compatible with my older unit. In the end, swapping out the plastic bracket will be better because it will be less obvious that I'm swapping parts between units...

[forest edge]

yea apparently they changed ALOT of little things over the years. I have ran into similiar issues where the replacement parts were not the same but it sounds like you might have had the worse of the worse lol

the LR3 was the same way. I actually own 3 of 4 different tray IR sensor things and each of them was diffrent in how they looked and how they clipped on

[static schooner]

Yeah, those were prone to failure and they kept redesigning them

The control board for the LR4 is a tiny little thing

[forest edge]

not seen it

[static schooner]

There are a few parts that you can just order on the website and have them shipped for free under warranty

Motor is one of them

[forest edge]

yea they were going to ship me a whole new base when the last LR4 we bought made a weird noise and I told the lady over the phone that was dumb.. it was just the motor that would need replacing

[static schooner]

I ordered a set of the felt strips

[forest edge]

insane the amount of wasted $$ in shipping etc to replace so much for one little thing

I think you can order those felt strips aftermarket off amazon for dirt cheap. I know the filters you can

[static schooner]

I wish they'd just sent me a compatible load cell harness. Meh, anyway, seems like I'm good for now

[forest edge]

hopefully you will be good for the life of the machine

2028 projected date of the LR5

wonder what that thing will look like

probably have some kind of oled touch screen with built in camera etc

[ocean oar]

I'm struggling to think how you make it better, without also making it more complicated and failure-prone

[forest edge]

better camera intergration both in the machine and in the app for clips of the cats doing what they do

[static schooner]

There's really not much that I would do to improve it. I have cameras pointing at them already 🙂

[forest edge]

I still like watching this person's videos on these. https://youtu.be/2IHJJ6Jaz_o?si=rh_G3rAgfNTRV4tH

the food grade spray on wax is something I want to try

[forest edge]

yea but you have to like go back to timestamps etc etc.. the petkit shown in the video I linked above did it really well so you can skip having to hunt down clips and just see each event tied to each cat

[static schooner]

Yeah, I have to cross reference by timestamp

[forest edge]

seems like everytime one of these companies come out with a new idea it has to be improved on over the course of years lol

so maybe the LR5 will have it perfected.. dunno

[static schooner]

The parts for the LR2 make it look pretty amateur hour

Like a toy

[forest edge]

soon you'll need to send the whole unit off to a mechanic

[static schooner]

https://www.robotshop.com/products/litter-robot-2-front-panel-black?qd=d510c0175e78c4646caf1a8009d7d858

[forest edge]

bet those were a pain to clean

[static schooner]

One thing I didn't know and found while looking for parts is that there's a dedicated sensor that looks for movement in the waste drawer and rotates the globe to open if it detects anything

[forest edge]

only sensor I saw down there was an IR sensor towards the drawer front

[static schooner]

That's the one

[crisp oriole]

Yes my home not have a PE guard dog.

Needed to hack my existing phone number ai lookup script. Because the ai always executed that if it heard a name

Sure make a check close group addon now it gives a name of peeps that are peeps with keys or oke peeps

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/peeps-marshmallow-marshmallows-marshmellow-derp-gif-16890727247438088542

[primal venture]

i hate my life when this

[crisp oriole]

I have a https://home.sub.dns for free. It routes directly to haos over ipv6 or local or else a nginx proxy.

[primal venture]

thats not a problem

the problem is that its not up 15 minutes after restart

(i also use tailscale)

[crisp oriole]

No ssh?

Other ports open

Make a thead it it takes longer

[primal venture]

my router doesnt even recognise it as connected

[crisp oriole]

In de ext2 days of linux a reboot might took 30 min every 20 reboots. But that are the old days.

[primal laurel]

Make a thread #1284966540617449515 if you want help

[candid wraith]

Anyone have a HA Voice button blueprint? I just got it and want to make the buttons do stuff like toggle lights etc. Thanks!

[static schooner]

#1284966915055288530

[unique hound]

Hey I need help in a nasty way, just bought a echo dot. And it's blue screening my PC when I plug it in to flash firmware

[static schooner]

How is that related to HA?

You can't flash any HA-related firmware on an Echo Dot

[weak musk]

How is it related to raccoons?

[forest edge]

"bought a echo dot" I think I found your issue.

[static schooner]

I don't recommend flashing a raccoon either

[primal venture]

it worked, i just restarted it...

[primal venture]

yeah, HACS failed

[last cedar]

Some of us like that very much

[clear ferry]

This you @last cedar ?

[crisp oriole]

This isnt memes

[clear ferry]

Too bad

[crisp oriole]

I dont blame you talked to my self

Deleted my post.

You just made me think this was memes. Should check for my self.

[glacial knot]

IT is though

[last cedar]

I don't think the sign applies to me?

[last cedar]

🤣

[solar zealot]

[clear ferry]

Why did you post a clip of me on Reddit @last cedar

[iron granite]

Do you move that much?

[glacial knot]

nah. But the hair gives it away

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/sob-anime-tears-sad-gif-14123498

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-pat-gif-24957682

[forest edge]

@last cedarlook! a hairless racoon! https://youtu.be/mR3rReuBO_s?si=fXQBLrstyHQpvout

[clear ferry]

@lone dagger

[last cedar]

You were the attractive blonde.... right?

[last cedar]

I could absolutely have one of those

Living

[clear ferry]

[ocean oar]

@last cedar

[last cedar]

Awww

A raccoon inside a raccoon

[crisp oriole]

Raccoon can be pregnant

[solar zealot]

That ruined the moment

[simple gazelle]

Power Armour

[floral iris]

Are there really no zigbee thermostats that work with AC systems? Everything is wifi or for boilers only...

[young sigil]

#1284966353798697001

Or #1284966617670881350 with the zigbee tag.

[floral iris]

Ok, I opened a thread, I figured it was a casual question that could get a quick answer, but perhaps not since my searching has come up with basically nothing.

[silent dove]

The topic of this channel is:

There’s no support here - only chill. Come in, grab a drink, chat with your fellow community members! This is a space to talk to other smart home enthusiasts. If you’re looking for support and unsure where to go, check out https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284968640189304913 - it should help you find where you are going. This channel isn't for 'quick questions' - see above and post in the appropriate place. No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

[forest edge]

499 doesn't sound like a good clearance price.

[hoary canyon]

looks like they still go for around $150 wow…

[forest edge]

Wtf does programmable only by urc certified professional programmer even mean. You can't program your own universal remote till after you pay someone to do it for you? lol

[static schooner]

I used an MX-980 for a long time

You could only get the software and updates from their site through a dealer login

I think they actually make you log in now, so you can't just keep using a specific version

It was pretty great for its day

It's all sitting in a bag in my closet

[unborn merlin]

sounds like "Fucking trash"

with a side of

"I'm reverse engineering this and releasing it to be known publically; eat shit."

its astounding how many "High end" things pull that shit.

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze Welcome to LA amirite? https://youtu.be/mw16gzHBDzY?si=cDoR9bcP54mVAmEo

[hoary iris]

is it okay to start a conversation about what I'd wanna do with my Home Assistant setup here or would that be a better fit for a forum?
mostly just aiming to chat about what I wanna do down the road and get some views rather than implementation specific details of something that's going on

before I'll do that I'll scroll through the forums a bit tho 👀

[crisp oriole]

Sounds like your not yet addicted. This is a chance out.

[young sigil]

No this channel is not the place. #1284966540617449515 or #1284966353798697001 depending on what you want to talk about.

[hoary iris]

I simply want some degree of convenience with a local network voice assistant and the roomba to do its job with ease of command (runs Valetudo). That being said... I assume most start with "I want just X..."

[hoary iris]

Noted, thanks!

[last cedar]

The moment was probably quite fun, until it was over

[scenic radish]

So I was today years old when I discovered that Caddy makes generating certs for local domains E Z P Z

[glacial knot]

I just use a dns01 wildcard with LE

[summer depot]

Who is that guy?

[glacial knot]

atxWithHair

[static schooner]

So, I filled my dishwasher with dirty dishes, turned it on, and came back later in the day to find that it did not nothing. Main pump appears to be busted. Sigh

New one ordered and it looks like it's easy to replace (famous last words)

[weak musk]

That always sucks when something breaks all of a sudden like that

Our fridge went last year a day before we were hosting a party. Had to buy a lot of ice for that.

[static schooner]

Fortunately, it can still drain

It's 13 years old. I briefly considered replacing it, but it looks like it's easy to fix

[weak musk]

I think ours is original to the house which was built in 2001

It’s a total time bomb

[weak musk]

Nice that you could get parts though

[static schooner]

Yeah, it's a GE, and I ordered through them. Sounds like they changed some stuff around 2015, so I am fortunate

I hope it's easy to pull out. It's on the concrete slab and I have to get it over the edge of the tile

There's a bunch of pieces of what looks like rubber mat that was deformed, cracked, and falling apart down there. Not sure what its purpose was

[solar zealot]

caddy my beloved got mentioned

[weak musk]

You can usually raise the self leveling feet in the front and slide it out pretty easily

[static schooner]

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

[unborn merlin]

getting to the pump (flipping it probably?) will be the annoying part..

... and also possibly getting it out depending on how tight the drain/wires are

[static schooner]

Yeah, it's on the bottom. The service manual shows it with the unit flipped on its back

[unborn merlin]

as the front bezel that touches the floor is called a skirt I think.

You are technically going upskirt on the washing machine yes. /s

[static schooner]

I'll have to unhook the water inlet from the kick plate, but I hope I can leave the drain attached

[unborn merlin]

depends onm how its attached.

[static schooner]

It'll be fun. At least of all the appliances that could break, you can always handwash dishes 🙂

[unborn merlin]

I mean

[static schooner]

Others are more catastrophic and urgent

[unborn merlin]

you can hand wash clothes too

😛

[static schooner]

Or eat out 🙂

[unborn merlin]

the true american diet

and you can now pay as you go with klarna! /s

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/burger-cartoon-gif-11260869

[dawn badge]

in comical British news:
looks like only the 1 hospitalization at the cheese chasing this year...

a tame year it seems

[glacial knot]

Nah, she didn't want to go on a date

[iron granite]

Sounds cheesy

[dawn badge]

Woman, 20, says 'I don't like cheese' after winning Double Gloucester rolling race

its mental, it was banned for its danger at one point. but it was officially brought back as when it was banned. people still did it but without the medical support it gets when its official.

[forest edge]

was that under the dishwasher?

[static schooner]

Yep

Lots of pieces like that

[forest edge]

so it was used a spacer maybe since the tile stopped and didn't run under the dishwasher? or was that an actual mat ontop of the tile?

[static schooner]

It wasn't under the leveling feet. I don't remember it from when they installed it

[forest edge]

weird

[static schooner]

I'll have to look through the parts list. Could have been some sound reducing material?

[stuck anchor]

vibration dampening on the underside maybe?

[static schooner]

Could be.

[forest edge]

or some kind of insulator to help retain heat if it was wrapped around something and fell off over time

[static schooner]

Hopefully it's not important :). I'll have to look at the parts list again

[forest edge]

how old is the dishwasher?

[static schooner]

13 years

[forest edge]

oh well, with modren crap it's at eol lol

[static schooner]

That's what Google says

But the motor is intended to be easily replaceable and you can buy it right from GE

[forest edge]

dishwashers aren't too bad expensive.. not like some other appliances

[static schooner]

I would replace it with a Bosch and those are up there

But yes, not that bad

[forest edge]

if you don't care about fancy looks and it being "smart" I would get one of the basic models even like amana etc

without the bells and whistles and fancy brand stuff, not only cheaper but they are made better

[weak musk]

Bosch is basically the best appliance you can get these days- smart or not.

[forest edge]

eh..

maybe among "name" brands

[weak musk]

What are you talking about? are you buying a Walmart “great value” appliance?

[forest edge]

there are more commercial oriented type brands that have been around for ages that just make simple appliances. you usually find them in like apartments or buisnesses etc because they are no frills but last forever

[primal laurel]

everything made in the 70s was better right 😛

[forest edge]

well that goes without saying

but no, some of those companies still exsist, still make appliances the same way

[primal laurel]

a fridge is an extremely simple device. The only thing that can really break is the compressor. Reliable compressor, reliable fridge

[static schooner]

Ohai, dishwasher is washing dishes

I pulled the rest of the pieces of that mat out and used a plastic knife to spin the motor and it seemed okay

I wonder if the mat got stuck in the motor

[weak musk]

Fun fact I know an idiot that used the fridge light failing as justification to buy a new fridge.

[weak musk]

Imagine if a John got stuck in it 😳

[primal laurel]

ok yeah I forgot about the light 😂

[static schooner]

Or a Michael. We sure do have a lot of them

I'm very excited that it's working again. I didn't have much hope for it

[primal laurel]

modern fridges do have way better insulation though. If it's older than say 10 years or so it will earn itself back in electricity costs pretty quickly (in places where electricity is expensive at least, like here)

[weak musk]

How did the mat move to get sucked into it??

[forest edge]

one day stefan you will be old enough to have experinced the reality of how this stuff actually plays out

[weak musk]

Sorry I keep pinging. I forget I have to turn that off in mobile

[primal laurel]

what stuff?

[weak musk]

ALL stuff duh

[static schooner]

More like fell apart and a piece got wedged where it didn't belong. I dunno. I literally just fished it all out from around the motor and flipped the breaker back on

[forest edge]

I guess when you are born into a world where stuff last a quarter of the time older stuff did, it's pretty much all you know and can't compare

[weak musk]

Interesting— nice to save a few bucks on the solution

[weak musk]

Just like time enshitification marches on

[static schooner]

I can imagine the service call if I had scheduled one.

Let me tell you about this idiot who paid me $250 to clean out some crap under the dishwasher

[forest edge]

the word desensitized didn't even exists till like after 2000

[desert cave]

it did.. it just took that long to reach middle earth

[weak musk]

https://tenor.com/view/stephen-colbert-where-are-the-fact-checkers-fact-checker-receipts-evidence-gif-6077322

[forest edge]

lets check with @tidal bronze on that

[desert cave]

I distinctly remember that word being used in a highschool class in the 90s :3

[forest edge]

towards what? politics?

I could see politics creating that term lol

[desert cave]

actually yup, haha

[primal laurel]

which stuff specifically are you talking about?

[weak musk]

Come on we covered this

[glacial knot]

🌩️ stuff

[weak musk]

☝️

[tidal bronze]

What now?

[primal laurel]

I'm not seeing it, my stuff lasts for ever

[glacial knot]

have you been alive long enough to claim that? 😂

[tidal bronze]

Too funny!

[forest edge]

lol

[tidal bronze]

Trying to revive this baby possum

[forest edge]

too much smog?

[tidal bronze]

Dog got too happy.

[forest edge]

oh no

[desert cave]

actually I haven't been to socal in several yeaars.. is smog even still a thing?

[forest edge]

he wouldn't know he's desensitized to it

[desert cave]

hah

that's our vocab word of the day apparently

[tidal bronze]

Back to my EMT work, you guys crack me up!

[static schooner]

Try mouth to snout

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/paramedic-simpsons-gif-11290896

[wooden egret]

man i just realized, the deprecation is going to affect LinuxServer.io image too 😦 because it's built using core version

the team may not want to frankenstein the original container image to support their init system

[dawn badge]

oh that's interesting. my guess is that they will probably drop it

[wooden egret]

if that happens that would be really unfortunate, i really liked that my home assistant wasn't running as root when exposed to the internet via reverse proxy

[dawn badge]

the question is: will there be more issues about it on their repo or on the HA repo because people don't know the difference...

[iron granite]

Core doesn't disappear, it just isn't supported as installation method.

[static schooner]

Right, if they want to continue to support it...

But not having a linuxserver.io image would also reduce support load

[iron granite]

The repair message might pop up though.

[dawn badge]

will get a depricated notice repair though. i am thinking "blog says container is staying but i get issue saying its going away"

[static schooner]

Especially since folks asking often don't say that's what they're using

You can ignore repairs

[unborn merlin]

like the average american when the car makes a weird noise! /s

[static schooner]

Black electrical tape is the solution to the repair

I'll check YOUR engine

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/flanders-tape-shutup-quiet-gif-5758206

[cedar glacier]

Anyone here have a valetudo vacuum? You can now control it with a PS4 controller!
https://github.com/Sloth-on-meth/valetudo-gamepad-control

[young sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[static schooner]

PS4 Extreme Vacuuming Challenge!

[ocean oar]

If it's good enough for a submarine? Or too soon?

[crisp oriole]

I think that incident is long enough ago that the joke can withstand the pressure

[crisp oriole]

Although no one tried to control a joke with a usb connected controller

[red rock]

oh hey sloth!

I was checking that github username like hehe, I have that guys phone number

but then I saw you were the one sending it 😂

[dawn badge]

now you need a camera and some AR stuff to show where has been cleaned so far

[cedar glacier]

Haha it has LIDARR, could get pretty far

[cedar glacier]

Hi

🙂

[dawn badge]

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[red rock]

What have you been up to

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/flash-slothmore-zootopia-slow-stamp-gif-12871255

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/how-no-sloth-about-chill-gif-24912171

[desert cave]

Orcas are now eating at 5 guys.. they serve subs there

[drowsy dome]

$12.50 PoE ELO 15" I-Series Tablets. Had to tell someone who was into HA and I got no friends
https://www.ebay.com/itm/365344647329

I ordered 12, 11/12 work fine, 1 cracked screen but works

[forest edge]

Nice.. for single purpose only but nice

[weak musk]

Elo makes good stuff

[reef stream]

how can i say something to alexa and then home assistant will understand it?

and do the action of it

[unborn merlin]

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/alexa.smart_home

With a lot of work. 🙃

now shoo to the support channels.. or suffer the heap of garbage there that amazon makes you do..

[reef stream]

actually, i just need to run a script

but for soem reasons it doesnt work, i exposed it to alexa but when i say the name of it, nothing happens

i basically need to run an action for an addon that makes my pc turn off, what i did is to put the action in a script and i wanted to do that when i tell alexa the name of the script it would have done it

[static schooner]

This is for #1284966915055288530

[reef stream]

okok sorry

anyway i got it, i understood why it wasnt working

its just that alexa is kinda bad person

a script will be recognized as a scene in alexa app, and to use scenses in alexa u have to say "alexa, turn on" and then u say the name of the scene

and i was just trying to say "alexa," turn off pc which also would be the name of the scene.
so in this case to work it would have been: "alexa, turn on turn off pc."

[unborn merlin]

almost like its run by a company that really wants to lock you into their particular brand of bullshit....

https://tenor.com/view/linus-tech-tips-ltt-bug-gif-19900847

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze not heard back from you. did you have to life flight the possum?

[tidal bronze]

Took some time. But all good.

[forest edge]

just in time for a owls to start hunting for dinner

[scarlet beacon]

Hello - I've got a side project where I have a pico2w - amongst other things I want to be able to have it communicate with HA, issue commands/trigger automations, and read some values on it to display on an connected screen - a bit like a remote control/remote display in the home (it will essentially be an LED clock and show some info/graphs and maybe trigger some lighting scenes or temperature changes on devices and security settings - (home/away mode via arlo hass etc) without using an app or tablet... is this a sensible idea of a project and if so... am I best using REST or some other method to communicate with HA... also happy to hear if this sounds like a waste of time and im missing something fundamental about what i want to do... the pico is running micropython so most of the codebase will end up in that.

[noble kraken]

honestly, the experimental area dashboard is the best one

[scarlet beacon]

ah - i was missing key information - the connected screen is a 53x11 rgb led grid... 🙂 - specifically https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/space-unicorns?variant=40842033561683

[scarlet beacon]

So the best I can conclude here is the micropython device issuing urequest HTTP POST to a custom RESTful sensor in HA - e.g. "8123/api/states/sensor.pico2wlistener" to set a value that is then picked up by a node red chain of automation to do the thing that needs to be done... ?

[young sigil]

This isn't a support channel. If you are unsure where to post: #find-support

[scarlet beacon]

It wasn't a support question - more does anyone have a better idea / approach for what I'm trying to achieve, hence water-cooler seemed appropriate but thank you. I'll look elsewhere.

[primal laurel]

new form of spam. Thanks, microsoft

[next ridge]

anybody ever used antenna cables to move it further away from the router?

i'm not a radio guy, can't tell if it's useful or worse

i guess the longer the cable the weaker the signal

[static schooner]

What is "it"?

[next ridge]

move the antenna to make a better coverage

[static schooner]

these seems out of context

[grizzled gull]

Very Random

Sounds like something I would do

[next ridge]

my ap had to be moved in the electrical closet of the house, thus behind one more concrete wall

[static schooner]

are you responding to somebody?

[next ridge]

i thought maybe i can stick the antenna out of this room

[static schooner]

seems like you're having a convo with yourself

[next ridge]

🤷‍♂️

well there's a question and some context, idk

what makes you think i'm talking to myself

[static schooner]

I ask again - what is "it"?

anybody ever used antenna cables to move it further away from the router?

[next ridge]

"to move it further" --> "move the antenna to make a better coverage"

it = the antenna, sorry if it wasn't clear

[static schooner]

still not clear. antenna for what?

[next ridge]

well, as stated in the first question, for the router indeed

[weak musk]

https://tenor.com/view/bill-hader-eating-popcorn-keith-morrison-dateline-snl-gif-25666169

[next ridge]

am i drunk or what

lemme check

nope, seems like my question has everything it needs

i guess you never had to use antenna cables tho

[primal laurel]

for a router?

not common

[next ridge]

do you know why? or the drawbacks?

[primal laurel]

better question is, why would you do it

[next ridge]

because i had to move the ap/router to another room, thus lowering the coverage at the edges of the house

if i could keep the router where it's at, and stick the antennas out of this room, i think it would achieve a better coverage

[primal laurel]

no, shit idea. Just get a repeater

[next ridge]

any reason why?

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/it-discord-reaction-pennywise-gif-26348500

[next ridge]

i'd like to understand

[primal laurel]

mostly signal attenuation. And long antenna cables are also great receivers of noise

[weak musk]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-music-gif-20612597

[forest edge]

@next ridge they are called sma cables just fyi, may clear up some confusion in the future. Anything over like 20ft I would just do like a wired backhaul repeater rather than run an sma cable

I run a 30ft sma cable to pipe a 4g antenna outside of a barn and while it does work I can see there is issues introduced with the length

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/iz0iSxks-Dw?si=vWqRr2KRf7m-6tTG

[static schooner]

so you just don't build it with a full line of blocks?

[dawn badge]

all the pieces of his system seem to fit together nicely?

[static schooner]

I'm disappointed that it doesn't look like it was built like stack of Tetris blocks

which would probably be confused for Minecraft-style these days

[primal laurel]

lol he's doing hydrogen

dude sure has money

everything he says about hydrogen is wrong 🤣

[static schooner]

But he's rich, right? Doesn't that make him right?

I think you can buy correctness these days

[forest edge]

Down with IKEA!

https://youtu.be/inaV2ddeI9k?si=MyavaKF5BCDtR838

that was actually a really good video explaining wtf happened lol

[primal laurel]

You buy laziness, laziness leads to inefficiencies, and then you arrive at the hydrogen bus 😂

[cedar glacier]

lmao
i just released a new version of my valetudo vaccuum PS4 controller thingy
its async now and the robot actually responds so much snappier than i thought it would
https://github.com/Sloth-on-meth/valetudo-gamepad-control

[next ridge]

thx, it would be less than 20ft in my case

[forest edge]

You will have to test it because length causes signal attenuation which could be worse than the issues you are already having

[next ridge]

yeah that's what i thought, but glad to know it can work in some conditions

it's kinda cheap so i might give it a try

[stuck anchor]

my experience with a usb wifi dongle (with detachable antenna) was that a long usb cable worked better than moving just the antenna with a cable. in my case 2m.

[pine harness]

Hey guys, not sure where to chat about this. New smart home enthusiast, what controllers do ya'll have for Zigbee/ZWave/Matter?

[forest edge]

yea.. they make outdoor modems where you just pipe the cat line into the building rather than what I am doing by piping the antenna cable out of the building because the signal issue gets real bad real fast lol

[stuck anchor]

it might still be better than your current problem if you really cannot move the router

[forest edge]

that will be my next purchase when my current barn setup croaks

[cedar glacier]

https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Electrolama_zzh.html

[pine harness]

can't buy in India, otherwise I would've spent tons on Aliexpress Zigbee stuff 😂. Any amazon links?

[cedar glacier]

no idea sorry, bought this ages ago

[stuck anchor]

you can get outdoor access points with directional antennas that are quite good as wifi bridges between buildings

[cedar glacier]

read: multiple gigabits good

https://www.wifishop.nl/p/ubiquiti-ubb-point-to-point-unifi-building-to-building-bridge-64745

https://www.wifishop.nl/point-to-point-wifi/sets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9P_R-ApD-g&pp=ygUedWJpcXVpdGkgcG9pbnQgdG8gcG9pbnQgbGludXMg

[forest edge]

my situation requires a 4g modem to be built into the router so I did what any duct tape enthusiast does and ran the 4g antennas outside my faraday cage barn for signal via antenna sma cable lol

[solar zealot]

Have you tried turning the cage off and on again

Sometimes that fixes it

[forest edge]

sure have

just allows birds in

not a good thing to do

it's a real fowl

[solar zealot]

the raccoons stop at your camera snack shop?

[stuck anchor]

my isp has a product called fixed mobile broadband where they send out someone to install an external antenna (to get it properly pointed at the cell tower i guess) solution and a specialized router. in order to offer a good stationary broadband subscription over 4g/5g

[static schooner]

the term "fixed mobile broadband" is definitely from engineering 🙂

[stuck anchor]

the external part is more than just an antenna. i have never seen the product so i don't know what kind of cable it uses

[forest edge]

they make inline signal boosters so what you have likely has that incorperated in it

[tidal bronze]

Distance between your cage and said cage?

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/diamond-pet-foods-diamond-pet-food-husky-gif-18307113231275550163

[tidal bronze]

Barn is a cage, where you sleep is a cage, so cage A to cage B distance?

[forest edge]

yea I still don't get what you are asking.. you asking how far my farm is from my house?

[tidal bronze]

Yes

[forest edge]

couple of miles i think

point to point is not an option lol

I entertained that thought once but the tower at my home would have to be so high that the city would likely get upset

[tidal bronze]

So you ain't high enough?

[forest edge]

I keep forgetting you never seen an actual Tree and just assume the world is covered in those Truffula trees

[tidal bronze]

You should use one of those amazing trees to do ptp

[forest edge]

sure, just let me know when you are ready to climb it

[tidal bronze]

Please hold!

[forest edge]

wtf is that

ugh I gotta buy a siding nailer

thought I was done with buying pnumatic tools

[desert cave]

are you ever truely done?

[forest edge]

it slows down greatly

@tidal bronzehttps://youtu.be/qCzWL9OPpwE?si=zuVceEmSqdgvplSi

this is going to be a crazy year

[unborn merlin]

buy an electric one instead.

🙃

[forest edge]

they don't make electric ones. they do make fuel cartridge ones that uses a battery to create the spark but no thanks on that lol

[weak musk]

paslode?

[forest edge]

yea I think they are the only one

[solar zealot]

Corsair just put my rma on low priority 💀

I love not having a fully working system for a bit longer

[forest edge]

what is it? psu or?

[solar zealot]

memory kit

one of them just decided it would rather work as paper weight

[forest edge]

00f

prob your location which is why it got bumped down lol

[forest edge]

camm memory must be the new method for trying to squeeze out more money out of consumer

and the new "AI" driven auto overclock of CPU's still sounds sketchy lol

[unborn merlin]

its to get higher frequency memory/shorter traces and etc

because the DDR memory slots are fucking.. what now.. 30 years old or something at this point basically?

you don't see us connecting CPU's to janky slots like that anymore do you? 😄

[forest edge]

so is the way cpu's connect yet I don't hear too much complaining about thier age

[unborn merlin]

CAMM memory is basically just moving it to the same as current CPUs

and no; we do not use basically identical slots as 30 years ago.

for cpus

[forest edge]

oh?

I have old P3 here still

maybe I should compare "just" how diffrent the pins are

[unborn merlin]

intel socket from 1999.

intel socket from now.

considerably different

gone from low-hundreds to thousands of pins.

look at ram though?

..... they're all basically the same with a slight increase in density.. with the same pin design that is not ideal for high frequency stuff.

[brisk glen]

Hmm, I could put HA OS inside a LXD container with zero issues in theory https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/how-to-run-docker-inside-lxd-containers#1-overview

question is lxd cluster or proxmox cluster or some unholy container in container in container action with k8s

[forest edge]

is going from socket pins to raised squish pins really that much diffrent in terms of performance

[unborn merlin]

ram isn't even socket pins

[forest edge]

talking about the cpu

[unborn merlin]

density.

you cannot get socket pins in the same density as a land grid array

[tidal bronze]

I wish I could excited for 1st class. It's old news. Coach excites me more now. 😅

[forest edge]

you gonna travel by luggage comparment next just to feel a "thrill"

[forest edge]

the camm has to fit the same amount of ram on one buss.. so the "amount" has to reflect that lol

[unborn merlin]

and the distance is halved or something too.

[tidal bronze]

Believe it or not I skipped the auto upgrade for my next flight. Wanna pay for my wine this time.

[brisk glen]

VMware’s new master is puckering up for some EU lawsuits

Might not be a good choice

[unborn merlin]

ahh broadcom.

Kill yourself broadcom.

Kill yourself.. 😐

[forest edge]

careful.. you start talking too much like money is something to burn your going to upset people in here

[unborn merlin]

piece of shit company that buys everything and jacks the prices on em

[brisk glen]

They violated a few of their contracts that will probably get them dog slapped in EU soon

[unborn merlin]

yeah, but they don't care because a great deal of companies will just bend over

[brisk glen]

I can’t decide between proxmox or LXD

[forest edge]

I get the distance, I just don't get the real world benefit in terms of cost vs performance lol

[brisk glen]

Naa there’s a couple lawsuits now

[unborn merlin]

because you don't understand anything about pcb design/routing.. 😄

[tidal bronze]

What's wrong with making money?

[unborn merlin]

This is the one case I hope broadcom wins though.

https://www.startribune.com/unitedhealth-group-broadcom-unitedhealthcare-lawsuit-software-prices-contract-breach/601320077

Fuck em. 😄

[forest edge]

IF camm dims end up costing the same or even less than the same amount of dimm slot ram then maybe but even at that.. the slot itself is asking for more chances of user damage lol

[peak slate]

screw both of em, we win no matter who wins here

[unborn merlin]

more to start.

But its either that or soldered RAM.. 🙃

[peak slate]

though i wish the judge would come up with a way to punish both

[brisk glen]

If you had to choose, LXD or proxmox? I know I can get HA OS happy in a LXC container

[unborn merlin]

proxmox. so I dont have to ever fuck with it when it gets unhappy.

leave it alone where it wants to be.

[tidal bronze]

Isn't it easier to invest in Broadcom than waiting for a judge?

[forest edge]

just because something makes it cheaper to produce (in terms of mobo) doesn't correlate to beneifit to the consumer lol

[peak slate]

you mean to short broadcom

yeah, that is easier than waiting for a judge

[unborn merlin]

stupid higher frequencies mostly.

[brisk glen]

Is proxmox lxc container root system root or is it done right?

[forest edge]

I guess time will tell

[peak slate]

i'm curious how latencies will shake out with the new memory though

[tidal bronze]

Any thoughts on 2u/4u energy efficient silent setup?

[peak slate]

those have been tracking upwards..... since they started speeding up the memory

[brisk glen]

Oh I think they have both

[forest edge]

In August, Dallas-based telecom and internet services provider AT&T alleged that Broadcom tried to raise prices on its VMware software by 1,050%

jesus

software cost is another thing that pisses me off

initial cost and the whole "subscription" model

[tidal bronze]

That's awesome

[forest edge]

so dumb

[forest edge]

one day you are going to get sued for something and when you come in here and cry about it we are all going to smile ear to ear lol

https://tenor.com/view/the-grinch-evil-smile-creepy-smile-gif-7618321

[tidal bronze]

Oh that's a normal thing.

So used to it.

It's not a matter of when, it's a matter of how much. Lol.

[forest edge]

I keep tabs on my city meetings since they post that stuff online and the renewl cost of "renting" software make me so furious

[peak slate]

maybe he's really martin schkreli

or however you spell that guys name

so @tidal bronze what about that few year gap on your resume??????

[tidal bronze]

Last time I used a resume was in 97

So pretty wide gap

[forest edge]

the cartel no longer asks for them

[peak slate]

getting ripped off on pay, raises don't track as well as new jobs do

though martin shkreli doesn't really need more money, the fines he got were pretty trivial compared to general funds

[tidal bronze]

I usually don't regret but wish I did law in California.

On a positive note Gemini 2.5 pro was made for HA. Leaves gpt in the dust.

[forest edge]

isn't that the one you have to pay for?

[tidal bronze]

Hmm you can do all you want with the free tier. Just mind blowing automations.

[forest edge]

you talking about using the gemini.google.com?

you have it do your yaml?

[tidal bronze]

Just ran a test gpt vs Gemini for pergola shades. I have a tree line 100ft away so can raise the shades earlier than sun elevation and azimuth. Gemini got it right the 1st time, eyes closed.

[brisk glen]

No proxmox does not do user space LXC per container mapping well :/

[tidal bronze]

Yep

[brisk glen]

LXD it is

[forest edge]

I have yet to try and see how the ai crap writes yaml even back when this whole thing started

[tidal bronze]

You will be amazed.

[brisk glen]

Garbage most of the time you better check it twice

[forest edge]

you just say "write me a home assistant yaml automation to do such and such"? assume you have to give it entity names etc

[tidal bronze]

Nopes. Dead on. That's a misconception

[brisk glen]

Oh sorry, that’s general programming

Gemini is allergic to array mapping

[tidal bronze]

Can't get sweeter than this.

[tidal bronze]

Upload your package/s and off you go. 🙂

[forest edge]

wtf is weather.jason?

[tidal bronze]

Jason's weather

[forest edge]

never heard of it

[tidal bronze]

What's more interesting is that, say if something doesn't trigger, will give you jinja to test in templates and post results to fix the automation. Mind numbing.

[forest edge]

maybe i'll fart around and see if it can improve my auto garage door close automation since it's pretty complex using motion sensors etc to keep from closing when we are out there

[tidal bronze]

Nothing complex anymore. Trust me on this. Try it out. You can thank me later.

Gemini will break down the logic better than you initially thought of.

https://aistudio.google.com/

Also try fine tuning frigate LMAO!

[split grail]

where do networking questions go?

[static schooner]

In the context of HA, #1284966540617449515

[split grail]

thanks

[forest edge]

what do you mean

[tidal bronze]

Work with a false positive, you will find out what I mean 😀

[forest edge]

I oddly don't get many so that would be hard

[tidal bronze]

Then you good. Simply amazing how it breaks down everything to test with logs and debug to get everything perfect.

[unborn merlin]

or give em the X/year to get custom tuned models..

it improves a lot. 🤷‍♂️

[tidal bronze]

One day. No need with Gemini.

[forest edge]

think i broke it

my automation may be too complex for it

[forest edge]

AI is absolutely horrible in terms that if you use it, you don't actually learn how it all works

I don't care how well it breaks down how each part works

a lot of that is like expecting people to read the fine print.. no one reads the fine print lol

[unborn merlin]

or ask permission.

https://www.theverge.com/news/674366/nick-clegg-uk-ai-artists-policy-letter

ah yes that epstein mentality.

Its clearly excessive to make one ask for permission!

[forest edge]

every single night this racoon checks for something to eat next to the barn

my only guess is, the barn light attracts insects that slam into the light and then fall down and that is what the racoon is looking for

it's even out there during the morning hours lol

[unborn merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/the-coon-eric-cartman-south-park-s13e2-its-me-the-coon-gif-22776681

[solar zealot]

They go to work at night and leave during the dsy

[simple gazelle]

If you're cold, they're cold, bring them inside

[last cedar]

OMG IT IS SO CUTE

Can anyone help me integrate my dishwasher with home assistant?

[fathom sparrow]

That would be pretty easy

it likely has modbus, ethernet IP, or some other industry standard for PLCs

[last cedar]

Hmmm

[clear ferry]

Is that a dishwasher or a crematorium?

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[dawn badge]

this was my first thought too

[primal laurel]

I think its for sterilization of equipment in hospitals

That's why it looks so clean

[simple gazelle]

HA is terrible, it's gotten me ordering off AliExpress again 😒

[dawn badge]

i do love it when i get the email "we have your AE package and it will be delivered soon" and i have totally forgetton what i ordered

[forest edge]

then when it arrives you question why you ordered a thousand rubber duckies to begin with

[dawn badge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYOmtEcZ1lk

[solar zealot]

Heavy breathing

[dawn badge]

i have to force myself to observe a "cooling off" period before ordering stuff. mostly because i have insane ideas all the time and to catch myself

[solar zealot]

Id Like to waste a money

But I don't know if I like to waste 540 of them

[simple gazelle]

This is just one of those three-legged moisture sensors, costs less than a curry, I can stop any time I want.

[dawn badge]

lol, "costs less than a curry" is that your benchmark for stuff your allowed to buy without consideration?

[simple gazelle]

I do often compare things to takeout food and drink, partly because they're not that cheap here, thus making it an easier threshold. If a Steam game costs less than a pint I don't feel bad if it doesn't pan out.

I'd forgotten I had an AE account, seems I last used it in 2018 for some cheapo not-Saturn USB pads

[reef stream]

i have removed browser mod from my integrations, now how do i remove all the entities and stuff from alexa etc?

[young sigil]

You start by asking in a support channel. Not here.

[reef stream]

right, what would be the right channel?

#1284966915055288530 #1284966582375813201 ?

[young sigil]

#find-support

[crisp oriole]

My tupperware isnt cremation proof.

[clear ferry]

Don't store grandparents in Tupperware

https://tenor.com/view/kowalski-noted-penguins-penguins-of-madagascar-gif-1306663699157096677

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-mr-poopy-butt-hole-ooooh-weeee-gif-9826117

[steep hare]

Hey Mods, I wanted to shamelessly self promote a podcast we just started. It will always has a home assistant section and we will be leaning heavily into self hosting a variety of applications and sometimes integrating it with home assistant. want to make sure it was allowed 🙂

[dawn badge]

that's what #1284960456880029707 is for 🙂

[stuck mortar]

Looks like an autoclave, which is a crematorium for bacteria

[primal laurel]

what is it @last cedar

[scenic radish]

tell us @last cedar

[last cedar]

This is just a set of instrument washers, the autoclaves are on the other side

There are also 2M tall dishwashers for even more instruments

[static schooner]

good thing you can take a shower at work if needed

[last cedar]

a very warm one!

[last cedar]

must be near @forest edge house

[stuck anchor]

https://youtube.com/shorts/XiCQcvwSXYc?si=iFyrre1N_GgGTgwf

[scenic radish]

|| What about tabs that are converted to spaces in the IDE? ||

[glacial knot]

no

Tabs are there for users to configure it to their needs

[clear ferry]

This one made me lol irl @scenic radish

[primal laurel]

who the F cares. Also python is stupid

[glacial knot]

it is. But there's no python to be seen here

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/look-at-him-efe-omowale-assisted-living-he-look-so-funny-haha-gif-7078505333145405761

[pearl lagoon]

Dang, my 64gig CM5 module was DOA

I can get a replacement, but its only 16gigs...

I mean, I probably don't need 64 gigs of ram to run HA.... but I wanted it

[primal laurel]

there's no cm5 with 64Gb of ram...

[pearl lagoon]

my bad, it was 64gigs of storage

misread the label on the order

[primal laurel]

https://downloadmoreram.com/

[pearl lagoon]

I am multi tasking lol - a dev just DDoSed our prod redis server

(on accident)

[clear ferry]

You kids and you miniature memory systems

[pearl lagoon]

Soon enough memory will take up a negative amount of space and create a paradox

[clear ferry]

Is it really memory if it is less than 64TB?

[pearl lagoon]

I will let you know as soon as I can afford a 64TB ssd

[clear ferry]

Just buy 24 32TB ones

Problem solved

[primal laurel]

It's not about how big it is. It's about knowing how to use it.

[clear ferry]

Yes, put it in a zfs dRAID pool or else

[last cedar]

just jbod them on usb2 external ports

[solar zealot]

Memory for ants

[clear ferry]

Look at miss modern here, with her usb TWO

[pearl lagoon]

Saw somebody on reddit that was building a pretty expensive PC. They were adamant that a high end mechanical HD was sufficient for storing games, and that it was pointless to get a NVME ssd

[ocean oar]

Enjoy your 10 minute loading times, I guess?

[clear ferry]

I barely remember installing a spinning rust system now

Must have been 2015 or so

[pearl lagoon]

I just keep mechanical drives around for my plex server - as they are plenty fast when it comes to playback of videos

[clear ferry]

Aye, in my lab sure, but any system that matters

Even hpux systems are SSDs since at least 2010

[pearl lagoon]

Yeah, and SSDs have gotten cheap enough where it really isn't worth the cost savings to go mechanical either

[desert cave]

spinning rust is really only useful for mass storage at this point

[clear ferry]

Even for that it is seldom used, third site maybe

[desert cave]

by mass storage I mean 100s of TBs

[ocean oar]

Problem is that space and power savings of SSDs are starting to become too significant to ignore

At work we're putting in systems from VAST, can get 6PB usable in just over half a 42U rack

6PB of HDD storage is at worst about 3 full racks

[clear ferry]

Yes, PB plz

[clear ferry]

Fun fact, I'm currently the one who has installed the most VAST systems in Scandinavia

[ocean oar]

Neat. We own one so far, but a 2nd is in this year's budget

[clear ferry]

I prefer VAST over Weka by far

Especially their multi tenancy

Started looking at Hammerspace now too

[dawn badge]

I have been putting off overhauling my local storage array for a while the price per tb is definetly still favouring hdd for home storage

[high jungle]

Ever since the last update I lost my ability to control Zigbee devices through ZHA. Is anyone else having the issue

Tried removing ZHA and tried two different coordinator

[dawn badge]

I am at 94% usage and the drives are almost 3.5 years old

[high jungle]

Everything was fine last 2 years until now

[dawn badge]

#1284966617670881350

[high jungle]

Should I open a new case or something because I can't find anything of value

[dawn badge]

yeah create a thread

[solar zealot]

anyone ordered one of those xg 8 poe switches from ui

[high jungle]

Complete

[dawn badge]

its a lot of money for the port count

[solar zealot]

its also poe

[ocean oar]

I like how the power adapter is nearly as big as the switch itself

[solar zealot]

tho i kinda just worry about its power consumption

like "max 60w" what does that try to tell me

thats like saying a car wont leak more than all of its fuel at once

[ocean oar]

Also 155W total PoE budget for 8x 60W ports seems like a problematic ratio

[solar zealot]

tbh that likely is fine

they have a 220?w option with the 2.5gig ones and if you need more you could buy the larger switches

having 60w budget allows you to chain quite a bit of additional switches

[desert cave]

I have an 8 port microtik POE switch and it's happily powering all of my cams

[tired quarry]

Ok

I want to buy budeget MiniPcs for Office Usage

[solar zealot]

sadly mikrotik and other dont offer a quad sfp+ with 8 poe options

this ui one is quite the smallest there is for something that also does poe

[tired quarry]

Basically for Excel , any suggestion

🙂

[solar zealot]

anything with an n100

beelink, minisforum

the options are plenty

[ocean oar]

I'd set your sights a little higher. I've tried Windows 11 on an N100 with 8GB of RAM, it's unpleasant to say the least. Feels like the early 2000s running Windows XP on a single core PC with 512MB of RAM and a HDD, just sits there chugging for about 5-8 minutes after you log in, until it's actually usable.

[dawn badge]

what i want is a switch with a decent amount of ports that are 2.5gig and have poe (doesnt have to be all ports)
too many things are like "4 2.5gbe ports and 20 1gbe ports and the 8 poe ports are 1gig ports. 800 quid please"

[light trout]

For excel? a n100 sounds wrong.
You are going to pay more for a office license than the hardware it runs on

[solar zealot]

cant really confirm that

[tired quarry]

I mean I need to buy like 8 minipcs

Because I have cave age pcs and people is asking me for a change

[static schooner]

a high-availability excel cluster

[light trout]

The lenovo mini PCs looks great

[solar zealot]

well if you can buy something with a ryzen cpu from minisforum

they apply somewhat largeish mobile coolers to them so they go a lot

their HX line is good, their UM line is good

if you need even more than that they have an ms-01 available with great io

and the latest is even a tower solution and mainboards to tho that is a bit of a stretch purchase for something of a minipc replacement

[dawn badge]

my dad uses an n100 with win11 as a desktop without issue but its got 16gb ram. and its very light usage.... bit of ms office and itunes

[solar zealot]

itunes, he should have gotten a mac mini to not have to deal with that anymore ^^

[tired quarry]

itunes still exists?

[solar zealot]

unfortunately yes

[tired quarry]

I am checking, thank you

[solar zealot]

its as terrible as ever

[light trout]

same can be asked about excel

[tired quarry]

long life excel

[solar zealot]

excel is quite great

[ocean oar]

TBH the 16GB probably makes a big difference. A freshly booted Win11 machine seems to have used about 6.5GB

Probably not worth springing for the Ryzen 9 3xx CPUs, but the 7 2xx of these might be an option?
https://store.minisforum.com/products/minisforum-ai-x1?variant=46454057566453

[solar zealot]

you can abuse it heavily as a database and if you scripted the shit out of it you have access :^)

[pearl lagoon]

I would love to use tape at home for historical storage, but the price of that system is a little steep 😦

[dawn badge]

I would disown him. its bad enough that he had an iphone

[solar zealot]

that is quite the understatement hehe

used tape drives starting at the price of a used car

[pearl lagoon]

Ha yeah

[dawn badge]

previous system was a i3-2100+8gb ram. so it was an upgrade

[pearl lagoon]

Overall though, hitting up the used market for enterprise equipment is the bomb.

I probably have 10k worth of parts in my home server atm. But I only paid about 1k for it all

not including my unifi stuff

[solar zealot]

unless you end up buying a decade old gear

then its pretty much ewaste performance for 300w idle ;D

lots of rawwrrr out of the fans for little math

[pearl lagoon]

I have some stuff that is older, but it is PDUs and a surge protector

I did get a usb hub that can mirror multiple devices for pretty cheap, and that is newer

it is a ThunderSync3-16 - I got it for about 250

The main thing though - always buy your racks used... holy cow the price difference

[clear ferry]

I haven't used an office desktop app in almost 7 years now

[solar zealot]

idk they just work much better than their cloud bs

[clear ferry]

Haven't missed anything in the web tbh

And I have 146000 unread emails

[desert cave]

individual emails or email threads?

[solar zealot]

if they were important they would write again

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-dealing-with-an-expert-professional-understand-rambo-nostalgia-gif-14962651

[clear ferry]

[desert cave]

reminded of the time someone pushed a bad cron config out to all of production, so everyone on ops was getting an e-mail from all 10k servers every 5 min

[solar zealot]

why did you even bother to delete 706

or was that the point where you just gave up

[clear ferry]

They are auto deleted

Aka meeting invites

When you accept/decline one it deletes the invite

[desert cave]

yah, I think that's the same on google hosted stuff, too

[tired quarry]

https://www.amazon.com/-/es/actualizado-computadora-escritorio-oficina-negocios/dp/B0DN51KD9D/

what about N150

[primal laurel]

at philips some manager managed (haha) to send an email to all employees. And some idiots thought it would be a good idea to do reply all. Suddenly I had 100 emails in 5 minutes

[tired quarry]

[primal laurel]

pro tip, you can remove all the tracking BS after the first ? symbol

[desert cave]

Bedlam DL3

[primal laurel]

it was exactly that but I wont bring down a server anymore

[clear ferry]

We had that happen a few times while we still were 130k employees

Great fun

[solar zealot]

basically the same with slightly higher clockspeeds

[dawn badge]

that name... Intel Twin Lake N150 (Upgraded N100) is that search optimisation as people are searching for "n100"? and "upgraded" is generous at best...

there is basically no difference between n100 and n150 performance

[clear ferry]

I bought a UM790 Pro

And I love it

[solar zealot]

stop lying it doesnt have >1tb ram how would you even like this calculator

[clear ferry]

[solar zealot]

it wont even open paint!

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-1182720488497099882

[clear ferry]

I don't even have paint

[solar zealot]

a sad day

[primal laurel]

does this look nice or not

[solar zealot]

stadia

[iron granite]

No. (It is not a Stadia)

[solar zealot]

close enough

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/not-funny-michael-scott-steve-carell-the-office-gif-15291157

[crisp oriole]

Rant no help needed, sending message to incoming caller like im already on a call with out a conformation and sending a sms always with conformation kinda colide with AI logic.

finally made the system it does not need a phone number but uses the given asterisk channel. now i regression test my sms system and it sends with out conformation.

[solar zealot]

i have no idea what this is about

[crisp oriole]

if someone calls me on my voip. (multi trunk) i now can say send message to (caller) and my phone assistant takes over the call sends the message and then relays to the main unavailable menu

its multi trunk so i can be on the phone already. and i dont have multple phones around everywhere in my house.

[solar zealot]

do you get that many calls? :D

[static schooner]

I feel like this is some weird quest to make use of 90s tech

landlines, PBX, autosending SMS

voicemail

[crisp oriole]

90s had the best music. so perhaps the best tech

[static schooner]

these are all things that mattered in Seinfeld

[solar zealot]

i do prefer todays tech

[static schooner]

Everything over the network