I haven't looked at the calendar for that one since last week, though.
#the-water-cooler
lone dagger
forest edge
think decoy is hosting ours. i'm going to let loose farm animals inside his house
what a downer
tidal bronze
Please host with that monster and hate
lone dagger
This is the epitome of this community lmfao.
tidal bronze
That means nothing. Just want to know if Cabernet is on tap ๐
forest edge
only going for the booze
tidal bronze
only going for the booze
Oh no. If not there I will take the bar with me.
forest edge
host a massive HA meetup somewhere other than california then i'd be interested. till then .. meh
tidal bronze
Dude you love CA
tidal bronze
Why not 1 and get everyone there.
deft pewter
not a bunch of pity parties
What if Puddles is there?
lone dagger
Why not 1 and get everyone there.
How do you meet local people that way? 
tidal bronze
BTW support questions allowed at these meetups? @lone dagger
deft pewter
https://tenor.com/view/nbc-agt-agt-gifs-sad-clown-gif-9684334
You know Puddles?!
You've almost redeemed yourself
lone dagger
BTW support questions allowed at these meetups? <@303933403303247872>
I dunno maybe? I'm not in charge of that. ๐คฃ
tidal bronze
How do you meet local people that way? <:ThinkO_O:914620913192935494>
I am not a people person you know.
lone dagger
Neither am I.
tidal bronze
Oh nice!
lone dagger
๐
forest edge
which is why it has to be one big meetup
somewhere humid and hosted outside so QF can enjoy it
lone dagger
Ew.
tidal bronze
Fuck NO! Please no humidity!
primal laurel
im not even a person
forest edge
lol
primal laurel
tidal bronze
https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-drinking-beer-raccoon-meme-raccoon-beer-raccoon-d...
Does beer cause cancer?
tidal bronze
Just checking
primal laurel
Does beer cause cancer?
only for people with a brain. You're safe
lone dagger
come to the one in LA?
Come to the Redmond one.
tidal bronze
Come to the Redmond one.
Got wine?
lone dagger
Yes!
tidal bronze
Awesome!
deft pewter
Boxes and boxes of it
lone dagger
We have great wine from WA!
tidal bronze
That I agree
lone dagger
But yeah Iโm still trying to get my venue.
The first shot was a bust. Fell through.
tidal bronze
Backyard?
jovial oxide
We have great wine from WA!
What's the mead like up there?
tidal bronze
We have great wine from WA!
Too early for me to book a flight since I don't know where I will be. But if I am in LA on the 24th will surely see you all there!
lone dagger
What's the mead like up there?
AMAZING. Thereโs a store on Bainbridge Island where we bought some locally brewed flavored meads. 
Gonna have to find that again, you only just reminded me. ๐
tidal bronze
The first shot was a bust. Fell through.
Under 40m from SEA?
@forest edge turning on the lights, just for you
lone dagger
Under 40m from SEA?
Under? Eh, pushing it lol.
I guess maybe so. I live a little deeper, it takes 45m to get to SEATAC.
deft pewter
Forty meters is pretty close
lone dagger
This is how you know Americans have their own language.
primal laurel
This is how you know Americans have their own language.
If you do end up starting a civil war soon please use the opportunity to switch to metric k thanks๐
lone dagger
If you do end up starting a civil war soon please use the opportunity to switch ...
man thatโs another fight i donโt think i want to do ๐๐๐
-# said while Iโm wearing a guillotine hoodie 
tidal bronze
People and their metrics
deft pewter
-# said while Iโm wearing a guillotine hoodie <:lul:887801114773295104>
I'm intrigued. Do you lose your head if you put the hood up?
forest edge
Was talking to my neighbor and he started talking about wine. Instantly rolled my eyes
lone dagger
I'm intrigued. Do you lose your head if you put the hood up?
No. 
lone dagger
Was talking to my neighbor and he started talking about wine. Instantly rolled m...
Did you tell him โsorry some assholes online talk about this dailyโ?
forest edge
Was planting plants and going on how cool chatgto was in helping them started talking about the future and how it could help with pairing wines to food or something
Chatgtp
static schooner
I suggest Welch's grape juice with your Spaghettios
forest edge
I swear when he started naming wines (i think thats what it was) and talking about "flowerly flavor" or some shit I pictured his skin turning green and antenna's growing out of his head
bad enough I have to come back in here and hear about the same shit all over again from you know who
unborn merlin
This is how you know Americans have their own language.
well, we bastardize the one we have at least?
static schooner
Forty meters is pretty close
This is how we crash into Mars
unborn merlin
This is how we crash into Mars
well at the current rate how we'll crash into mars is on ships full of indentured servants actually..
tidal bronze
Was talking to my neighbor and he started talking about wine. Instantly rolled m...
You got hope!
Hangout with your neighbor more
forest edge
You got hope!
by hope you mean bad luck.. it would appear so
tidal bronze
That neighbor got good taste.
forest edge
was wondering if I should call the paramedics.. thought the gibberish was a sign of a stroke
tidal bronze
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NrgKGvYdtXbLKKhWA you should visit this place. Only thing that gave me hope in middle earth.
willow iron
I just sneezed and my Voice Assistant thought I said "okay nabu". hah.
dawn badge
okay own up, who submitted a sneeze to the wakeword collective? ๐
forest edge
they been adding a lot of diffrent languages to it, sure a sneeze probably fits one of them
clear ferry
My sneezes could blow down the third piggy's house, so that would be interesting waking up 250 smart devices in range
fair axle
Honest question- do people just โdealโ with inconsistent issues with Zigbee devices? Or is there light at the end of the tunnel. Trying to understand what the good / happy state loooks like?
forest edge
what do you mean inconsistent?
fair axle
I have some devices that sporadically reporting data/large gaps of data coming in/devices picking the worse router or just the controller. Been tearing my hair out.
All are third reality which iirc is pretty reliable.
forest edge
don't put a lot of faith in the "map" layout
make sure your not experincing interference issues with wifi devices nearby or just in general
zigbee takes some trial and error to understand what is going on but once you get things figured out there really isn't much in inconsistency
fair axle
don't put a lot of faith in the "map" layout
So when you say map - you mean where it shows whatโs connected to what? ๐ฌ
If I canโt trust that, what should I rely on? LQI?
forest edge
So when you say map - you mean where it shows whatโs connected to what? ๐ฌ
If ...
yes that what I meant and LQI is all over the place. Zigbee takes a bit of time to work out it's mesh. give devices a few days to really iron things out. if a device is still being inconsistent then it could just be a weak signal issue going through a wall or something
not to mention not all zigbee devices are created equal. third reality is a good brand but just saying
gilded scarab
were you able to get your eufy lights to work with HA? I cannot find and answer and having the same issue. All I am trying to do is to use a luton pico remote to turn on my string lights and permanent lights that i installed on my pergola. Thanks in advance.
fair axle
yes that what I meant and LQI is all over the place. Zigbee takes a bit of time ...
Hmm days? Maybe Iโve been too impatient then. ๐ฌ Iโve had them for a week or two now but I keep trying different things.
forest edge
yea don't do that lol. put them where you want them and leave them for a few days.. then and only then if you are having issues it's likely something that will require a router device being placed inbetween or something
fair axle
Hmm okay - Iโll give it a few days. Thanks.
forest edge
yea like I said, takes a bit of trial and error then you start to understand how to place devices to deal with it's weak signal etc
elder ivy
Hey guys any reccomendations on stuff I can do with 2 vibration sensors?
forest edge
tell when a dryer shuts off
clear ferry
What is your coordinator @fair axle and integration? Because I've been running Zigbee2mqtt for 6+ years and I've had no such issues
clear ferry
Hey guys any reccomendations on stuff I can do with 2 vibration sensors?
Be very sure that something isn't vibrating
glacial knot
nah, you need 3 to make very sure
clear ferry
Only mildly sure with two?
glacial knot
nah, no quorum. So you might be quite sure, but also quite unsure
forest edge
my barn router which has wifi, 4 lan ports and has built in 4g was like under 100 bucks yet I cannot find a single fanless pc with the same stuff and the ones that has "some" of the stuff is stupid expensive
like most only have one mpci slot so you have to choose between wifi or cell modem
iron granite
nah, no quorum. So you might be quite sure, but also quite unsure
Schroedinger's sureness
clear ferry
nah, no quorum. So you might be quite sure, but also quite unsure
Classic split brain, I see
pulsar umbra
Was talking to my neighbor and he started talking about wine. Instantly rolled m...
why wine is so intresting lol
seem like a rather chill topic to talk about
(yes i am french how did you know ?)
glacial knot
๐ท
These days proton is all the hype though
solar zealot
I don't think you are supposed to drink a bunch of those
That's how people get charged
deft pewter
why wine is so intresting lol
It's just grape juice. Most people don't care which slope the grapes were grown on, or what flavours people pretend to taste in them.
Also... French wine ๐คข Italian wine 
umbral cliff
It's just grape juice. Most people don't care which slope the grapes were grown ...
Can taste the different types of grapes though
Things like dry wines, sweeter wines, etc
glacial knot
Is that the grape, not processing? ๐ฎ
And yea, general climate of the region is also noticeable
I don't drink much wine, and I lost some of my ability to tell apart ๐ต due to the 'rona. So I might not be able to anymore. But I wanted to "get into" wine for a while and paid attention to it
deft pewter
Is that the grape, not processing? ๐ฎ
It's the processing. It's about how much sugar is left after fermentation. If fermentation was ended before it was all consumed, you end up with a sweeter product.
Clearly there's a variety in the grapes, otherwise we wouldn't have red and white ๐ But the variety doesn't extend to the myriad notes that people pretend they can detect. That's the winemaking, not the grape growing.
clear ferry
There are people who are hyper sensitive to taste and smell, but for the remaining 99.9% of people, wine is wine for the most part
primal laurel
there's a tech company here I visit occasionally that have their own brewery, and it's pretty good stuff. And they give it to visitors for free 
last cedar
9/10 raccoons can detect a premium wine by touch alone, follow me for more raccoon facts
last cedar
9 out of 10, not 9 tenths, you monster
clear ferry
Thanks mommy
crisp oriole
If you have 9 raccoons and divided them by 10, is that then roadkill pile?
You have 9 racoons. You look away a sec there are 10 racoons
Good day all home assistant enthusiasts
clear ferry
https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-second-child-there-are-two-of-them-getting-out-of-hand-gif-16342964
red rock
there's a tech company here I visit occasionally that have their own brewery, an...
when?
red rock
When are we going
primal laurel
oh lol. Next time there's a rust or julia meetup ๐
glacial knot
there's a tech company here I visit occasionally that have their own brewery, an...
We have our own beer^^
Though it's contracted with a large brewery
primal laurel
Who is julia and why are we meeting her up
she's really good at numerical codes. Oh and ASML uses it a lot and they have a lot of money
glacial knot
do they? I che ked at some point, but I don't think they pay FAANG levels o.0
deft pewter
Ah, so there's actually a company using Julia. I thought it was just another esolang.
You know it's still just going to be 3 devs using it, not the whole company.
primal laurel
julia is doing a large part of the numerical computing on the lithography machine itself. So in production
clear ferry
Julia seems to be getting a lot of traction in the environments I deploy
I'd say every 2/5 data scientists are using it from my experience
crisp oriole
Finished my 1st home assistant integration.
Me a developer now.
crisp oriole
I successfully updated a old dutch public transport api. Added a directon option sometimes the api saw buses going both ways.
And i fixed the outdated attribute code
More hacking than writing from scratch
Perhaps now i can try to make my libvirt integration
static schooner
crisp oriole
I cant say my 1st professional coding vibes. Ifs a state secret.
red rock
r/theprimagen letsgoo
crisp oriole
next i need to learn to setup a development hass system
primal laurel
solar zealot
crisp oriole
not using a random seed right.
--- right???
robust flicker
Imagine my shock when the IT lady meets me in our shop at 7am when they normally don't come in until 8am.
I've been waiting to get my assigned laptop since July, lol.
crisp oriole
Dont burn in the screen at the frontpage of some NSFW site
glacial knot
next i need to learn to setup a development hass system
vscode => open in devcontainer => [F5]
crisp oriole
can it work with nano?
crisp oriole
do you have the receipt they never gave it to you?
crisp oriole
https://tenor.com/view/kitty-eyes-glare-viralhog-shining-eyes-glowing-kitty-eyes...
there are now 18 racoons
robust flicker
Nah. They finally brought me one. HP ZBook Firefly 16" "AI workstation" like I need a damn ai in a laptop lol
fair axle
What is your coordinator <@136202938505887744> and integration? Because I've be...
Sorry fell asleep - I mention my dongle here #1371871361588527187 message
crisp oriole
yet a other hopeless feature request. https://community.home-assistant.io/t/feature-request-big-zones-rework-a-new-rooms-like-overview-but-then-for-zones-and-ai-capability/889278
weak musk
Sorry fell asleep - I mention my dongle here https://discord.com/channels/330944...
Itโs 2025 you canโt just talk about your dongle in public
primal laurel
indigo knot
I was looking at which home assistant install I should use... and am unclear about a comment regarding install. The docs make it sound like when installing home assistant as a docker container deployment, addons arent supported or something. Does that mean none of the extensions and stuff will work?
I dont know what linux distro home assistant os is based on (if any), but I kind of want to run this and other stuff on top of debian and need to run other containers on this server
primal laurel
static schooner
That's a #1284966540617449515 question
indigo knot
actually I didnt realize it... googling diff install types gave me more information on supervised installation which I think will be what I want for this use case
primal laurel
Supervised is pretty much been axed
indigo knot
le sigh. I guess I'll just dedicate an entire machine to running the HAOS
crisp oriole
le sigh. I guess I'll just dedicate an entire machine to running the HAOS
Do you have linux?
Just run within libvirt
indigo knot
yep
deft pewter
le sigh. I guess I'll just dedicate an entire machine to running the HAOS
If only there were a way to run HA in a container.
You don't need addons anyway. They're just... other containers.
crisp oriole
You don't need addons anyway. They're just... other containers.
Excluding locks.
static schooner
Yeah, don't do supervised, friend.
indigo knot
I mean I'm not gonna lie, I dont even know what all add-ons would be included there... does that mean any integration with any smart home devices, or are addons typically larger than that
deft pewter
Integrations are integrations. They're part of HA.
static schooner
<I'm just trying to bring this channel back on topic>
deft pewter
Addons are stuff like when silly people want to run Plex inside of HA instead of alongside it where it belongs.
indigo knot
oh weird
deft pewter
But yeah... this is a discussion for a support channel ๐
indigo knot
its water cooler, what is the topic?
crisp oriole
I mean I'm not gonna lie, I dont even know what all add-ons would be included th...
Music assistant is the. Best example. Just add the addon and you got a good music server for all your. Needs
indigo knot
ok
deft pewter
its water cooler, what is the topic?
Anything but HA 
indigo knot
@crisp oriole thank you
silent doveBOT
deft pewter
Music assistant is the. Best example. Just add the addon and you got a good musi...
If only MA ran as a container too... oh, wait.
static schooner
thankfully, there's a topic message
crisp oriole
If only MA ran as a container too... oh, wait.
If only it had a lock.
deft pewter
Locks?
indigo knot
I get making the support stuff a forum type scenario on discord, but when asking for advice (that is specific to me MAYBE, seems weird to ask opinions in something liek that)
crisp oriole
We had this discussion before and you fell back to none existing functionality
iron granite
https://tenor.com/view/south-park-buddy-guy-friend-canadian-gif-6183589
What would Brian Boitano do?
primal laurel
I get making the support stuff a forum type scenario on discord, but when asking...
Yeaaah we know. You're only like the 1000th person here to say that
deft pewter
We had this discussion before and you fell back to none existing functionality
I have no idea what you're talking about.
iron granite
We wait for the 10000th
lone dagger
I get making the support stuff a forum type scenario on discord, but when asking...
Asking advice is support related. You are looking for support on the best installation method for you. ๐
deft pewter
We wait for the 10000th
There's a prize for the 10000th, right?!
lone dagger
There's a prize for the 10000th, right?!
deft pewter
We had this discussion before and you fell back to none existing functionality
Ah, I found what you're talking about. The conversation you had with someone else that wasn't me ๐
crisp oriole
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Yeah it seams.
deft pewter
Because you make no sense ๐
crisp oriole
We also had this discussion before
deft pewter
iron granite
weak musk
https://tenor.com/view/cat-peek-hide-creep-gif-20883867
This response was worth waiting 5 days for ๐๐๐
scenic radish
If only it had a lock.
wut?
forest edge
primal laurel
lone dagger
Was looking for a specific post of mine on bsky but found this instead. Still fucking funny almost 2 years later. https://bsky.app/profile/adorablecyb.org/post/3k6rkhzuknq2f
iron granite
https://tenor.com/view/cat-peek-hide-creep-gif-20883867
robust flicker
Was looking for a specific post of mine on bsky but found this instead. Still fu...
I just sent this to my stoner neighbor. ๐คฃ
unborn merlin
Yeah, don't do supervised, friend.
but I'm lazy. ๐ฆ
plus I like having it constantly whining about other stuff runninng in my docker
unborn merlin
https://tenor.com/view/no-downboy-relax-bad-baddog-gif-5458967
its my server and I will run my ingress on the same box as my HASS ๐
dawn badge
this is what proxmox is for
unborn merlin
i'm aware.. my new server will be using proxmox..
dawn badge
CHEER!
unborn merlin
just dragging my feet on finishing it of course.. ๐
unborn merlin
And whining about it.
how else can you shitpost if theres nothing to shitpost about?!
lone dagger
Believe me, I find a way.
unborn merlin
unborn merlin
And whining about it.
Both Core and Supervised methods are still actively used when developing Home Assistant and will continue to be possible. We just wonโt officially document or provide support for them as recommended methods for production setups. If you know what youโre doing and want to maintain these setups yourself or with community support, thatโs perfectly fine.
actually waait no i'll be fine ๐
unborn merlin
๐
my poor old odroid system that I moved on from tho. /s
discontinue official support for two older architectures:
i386 (32-bit x86)
armhf (32-bit ARM hard float)
armv7 (32-bit ARM)
poor thing. ๐
lone dagger
My sister said that to my son last night and I lost it. ๐คฃ
mighty rose
This is weird. I can't seem to connect my Fronius inverter to HA when the inverter has a public IP
I can curl the URL of the inverter from a terminal in ha....
but when I try to add it via the integration, it just says "failed to connect"
deft pewter
It's a real shame this isn't a support channel, else we'd love to hear more about it.
mighty rose
ew. discord threads tho
deft pewter
mighty rose
Chat client with a forum identity crisis ๐
lone dagger
Would you prefer we have the hellscape that is how Slack does this shit?
lone dagger
We just moved to it for work and I have a hate love relationship with it already.
mighty rose
eh - I'm a grumpy old man, I'd rather use IRC ๐
alas, I know its not for everyone
deft pewter
eh - I'm a grumpy old man, I'd rather use IRC ๐
Go on then
mighty rose
@lone dagger Teams, Discord, Matrix, Slack - they're all reinventions of web based IRC
and they're all dodgy lol
deft pewter
Would you prefer we have the hellscape that is how Slack does this shit?
I don't mind Slack. As long as people keep to channels/threads and don't spin up a new multi-person DM for every frigging conversation.
Slack isn't for everyone though. It's main benefit is all the integrations that just work.
left saddle
Good afternoon! Could someone recommend a universal remote control (like the Logitech Harmony) that is integrated with Home Assistant so that I can control TV, Receiver, Apple TV, Cable TV, etc.
weak musk
We should just use text messages instead of discord
@lone dagger please start abusing your admin rights and collect phone numbers
Iโm very tempted to call that
Hahahahah I just googled it
primal laurel
Would you prefer we have the hellscape that is how Slack does this shit?
Keep the forum. Bring back chaotic chat channels. Choice!
lone dagger
<@303933403303247872> Teams, Discord, Matrix, Slack - they're all reinventions o...
I'm older than you think. ๐
lone dagger
Keep the forum. Bring back chaotic chat channels. Choice!
I'd be out and leave the community to run itself here. ๐
static schooner
unborn merlin
and they're all dodgy lol
fucking kiddo.
listing "dodgy" apps and didnt even list teams.
could even list it twice.
... as microsoft does
deft pewter
Teams is gross
mighty rose
Teams is in the list ๐
it was the first ๐
but I totally understand why you skipped over it hahahha
so this is really weird.... I can get to https://<public_ip>/solar_api/v1/GetPowerFlowRealtimeData.fcgi in a browser, I can even curl it from the HA VM in a terminal - but the Fronius integration won't connect to it.
but yesterday, when it was on a private IP address, it worked fine - and has worked for over a year
I th ink I'm go ing cr azy
peak slate
could even list it twice.
Would you like teams, or new teams
These days we even have outlook, and new outlook
And god forbid you accidentally click the wrong one
robust flicker
My kid, "god you're a smartass." to me. Deservedly so. But I always respond "better a smartass than a dumbass". Lol
unborn merlin
Would you like teams, or new teams
its teams or teams for home or w/e
crisp oriole
how many develop new integrations directly on haos?
forest edge
haos.. the only install worth having
mighty rose
I think I figured it out: https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/144932
peak slate
its teams or teams for home or w/e
Nah, for a while there was teams and new teams when they were rolling out a completely new app
mighty rose
wasn't there also Teams for Workplaces and Teams for Schools?
peak slate
probably was
i know for a while there was skype and skype for business (which was really skype and linq)
clear ferry
primal laurel
Actual software engineers can't lose their job to AI. If this person claims that there are at least a few others reasons they're not mentioning ๐
glacial knot
๐
clear ferry
You should see the people who are software engineers who have never touched a keyboard
glacial knot
I know a couple people with a masters in CS that barely do
also, 150k in CA is entry level SWE
They can absolutely be replaced by AI
clear ferry
Yeah, the ridiculous American HCOL paychecks are bonkers
My job would be 2-3x pay in California, and I already earn the country average times two
glacial knot
I'd "only" get 100k more in CA
forest edge
150k is too much for some of these computer jobs imo
solar zealot
but how would they buy zyber troock and tesler????
forest edge
most don't. they still live in their parents hand me down car in a walmart parking lot
primal laurel
Sell drugs like the rest of us
glacial knot
Not everyone's dutch
unborn merlin
also, 150k in CA is entry level SWE
They can absolutely be replaced by AI
you know whats even easier to replace with AI?
middle managers..
say shit without ever saying anything worthwhile?
That's peak AI right there.
glacial knot
I'd say sales and marketing. But apparently klarna tried and failed 
glacial knot
I'm doing quite well with mine
but he's also TLM and still does some IC work
unborn merlin
<:celrShrug:814619585759936553> I'm doing quite well with mine
but he's also TLM...
liar.
Managers don't do work
glacial knot
yea, that's why I like the TLM method over TechLead/Manager as separate positions
deft pewter
I'm basically a TLM, even if that's not my title. I do plenty of work still ๐ฅฒ
Granted, I'm not doing my own work often. It's usually helping other people with how to do theirs. But that's still better than 'managers' in other businesses where they exist just to hold pointless meetings and watch your attendance.
glacial knot
yea, I used to be Manager in a company that doesn't have the distinction
and started in a TLM style position but had to move more and more into management tasks due to... People...
Happy to be an IC again
Though I got my promo ๐ so now I'll have to do some of the stuff again but from an IC position
Mentoring
forest edge
would have loved to see these manager jobs you all say that do no work
been a manger twice in my life at two diffrent job types and it sucked
glacial knot
oh they keep busy. They just don't do much ๐
forest edge
I think non managers just assume managers are suppose to do their job for them in many cases
glacial knot
you must suck as manager if that's what your reports thought
can't you establish expectations at all?
forest edge
not sure what you mean
unborn merlin
would have loved to see these manager jobs you all say that do no work
whining about metrics isn't actual work*
there is a very large difference between "manager who used to do the job"
and "business ghoul who never did the job"
companies seem to much prefer the latter these days. ๐
forest edge
meh, only benefit of a manager that used to do the job is the ability to better judge lazyness lol
unborn merlin
or having reasonable expectations..
And knowing how to shut the fuck up and go away to let people work
๐
unsurprisingly: a manager standing around staring over your shoulders while you're behind or busy.. does not in fact help
deft pewter
companies seem to much prefer the latter these days. ๐
Pretty sure Sonoma didn't go to business school. Hell, I'm not sure he went to any kind.
forest edge
I would like to see your managers in these countries.. sounds like it would be fun to watch
deft pewter
Yeah, do the whole American superiority thing and act like other countries just don't have their shit together.
Management is management is management.
desert cave
the very best managers are the ones who ask you what you need to get your work done, then go and chase it down for you, or get out of the way, and keep upper management off your back. Going that route both makes you better at cranking work out, and pretty easily highlights the ones who aren't completing theirs.
deft pewter
Which is the exact opposite of the managers that are just trying to 'judge laziness'.
desert cave
exactly
deft pewter
Build your team. Don't shit on the ones that need help.
Dog knows some of my reports have their moments... so I help them through and try to give them what they need to not repeat the same mistakes.
desert cave
this is why I believe Sonoma when he says he was a manager, lol
deft pewter
Just not a good one ๐
desert cave
in my 25 years of doing tech work, the only people I've ever seen be lazy is management and sales/marketing
glacial knot
the very best managers are the ones who ask you what you need to get your work d...
Needs a certain seniority in the underlings though
deft pewter
Maybe not seniority, exactly. If you're constantly giving them work that's too far above their skills, you're giving them the wrong work. But anyone, even a junior, should feel comfortable saying they need something.
desert cave
I mean.. even if they're not a self-starter and need a regular project list to work from, that's still giving them what they need
deft pewter
The worst experience I had recently was actually a senior with a long career. They didn't ever ask for help. Which was fine most of the time, until it wasn't...
desert cave
yaah
deft pewter
"How's the work going?"
"Fine, I just need a couple of days longer"
A couple of days later...
"How's the work going?"
"Fine, I just need a couple of days longer"
And it turns out they were stuck on something that another dev spotted instantly. Could've saved a week.
Pride, eh?
desert cave
I'm definitely not guilty of pulling that one, nope
glacial knot
For me it's usually a mental block when that happens
I don't give a shit about asking for technical guidance. But when I'm more stuck on myself than the task...
deft pewter
~~I'm definitely not guilty of pulling that one, nope~~
I'm sure we've all done it. But we shouldn't all keep doing it. This guy did, so he wasn't around for long.
The S in CoPilot stands for Security!
Love it ๐
primal laurel
I have nobody to ask things to. Ok maybe one guy but he's more of a physicist than EE or control. Fuck me right
deft pewter
No-one at work. What about professional connections outside of work?
I'll sometimes run things by a friend I used to work with. Haven't worked at the same place for years but he often helps me debug ๐
proven arrow
welp, tried to setup a voice assistant for the first time with ollama. this is delightfully infuriating ๐คฃ
scenic radish
Alright so we currently rent but because I'd like cameras in key spots, I had to be creative... two of my five cameras are connected like this:
Wyze Cam v3 with wz_mini_hacks > microUSB PoE adapter > PoE switch > powerline ethernet adapter to my proper network equipment inside
judge me
Can't really use a proper IP camera in those two spots because I can't find a single one that would be small enough
iron granite
Chocolate
clear ferry
peak slate
Chat always needs more baby metal
lone dagger
Poppy and Baby Metal's latest song is a banger.
deft pewter
Chat always needs more baby metal
Babymetal is cool and all, but what about The Sidh?
clear ferry
lone dagger
You'll probably find the least helpful people in this channel. They're just here for the shitposting mostly.
deft pewter
Actually, it is helpful to direct people to the places they're most likely to find the answers they seek.
deft pewter
You'll probably find the least helpful people in this channel. They're just here...
You'd have to go back a while but I was one of the most helpful people here at one point. Back when I had spare time, more energy, and a more positive attitude toward other people ๐
Now I'm old, jaded and have a child that takes all my time.
peak slate
Lol the cloud being cheaper than on prem means you're doing it wrong
So horribly wrong
peak slate
Babymetal is cool and all, but what about The Sidh?
Haven't heard of them
clear ferry
Broadcom go brrrrrr
peak slate
Which seems like something I need to fix
dull spire
Hello guys, i have a question
is this also my dashboard that i can use on smartphone or Tablet ?
or is this another one ?
static schooner
deft pewter
Lol the cloud being cheaper than on prem means you're doing it wrong
Eh... if you're talking just about the running costs, sure. But cloud means not having your own datacentre staff or paying for replacement parts. Cloud is a net positive most times.
forest edge
Alright so we currently rent but because I'd like cameras in key spots, I had to...
how stable is that hack for the wyze? also the reolink e1 is really not much bigger
stuck anchor
yes, they only want big cloud type customers. all other customers can take a hike.
scenic radish
how stable is that hack for the wyze? also the reolink e1 is really not much big...
very stable in my experience, even when blocked from the WAN (it has an option to keep the camera from constantly rebooting to try connecting to the mothership)
clear ferry
scenic radish
I have very specific mounting requirements || (giggity) || so only the wyze cam really works
peak slate
Eh... if you're talking just about the running costs, sure. But cloud means not ...
And paying for someone else to have all that plus some percentage on top, so kinda a net negative too, so many companies had costs skyrocket with the cloud
Though it does mean multiple geographic areas without any effort if you need that
deft pewter
It's about utilisation though. You're effectively timesharing the server admins. You're not paying to have them sit around doing diddly fuck until something happens.
clear ferry
Last i checked it was three fold price to do cloud because power is free here
deft pewter
Doing things wrong with the cloud can cost a bomb, sure. We've had the occasional surprise before from misconfigurations ๐
peak slate
It's about utilisation though. You're effectively timesharing the server admins....
Except you still have admins to handle all your local users and their machines
Lol
deft pewter
Not quite the same.
clear ferry
Double the admins, triple the excitement
deft pewter
Of course we have helpdesk monkeys for our devices. We don't have people that know how to manage an actual data centre.
peak slate
It can save costs, it can also quintuple them
deft pewter
Exactly. So the argument goes both ways... on prem can cost more than cloud.
It's funny seeing folk post on /r/aws. "Why am I being billed for this EC2 instance? All I wanted was to host a blog.".
Then use S3 and CloudFront and pay nothing.
peak slate
Lol aws is the absolute worst
deft pewter
How so?
peak slate
They do things in the most expensive ways
stuck anchor
in order to use cloud services right, handle design, security etc you still need admins who know how stuff works...
deft pewter
Eh. Just shift left. Have your devs do all that ๐ซ
DevSecOps is the new trend, right?
stuck anchor
They do things in the most expensive ways
no, aws tricks customers into doing things the most expensive ways ๐
peak slate
no, aws tricks customers into doing things the most expensive ways ๐
And they trick themselves too, prime video being a micro service infra was awful
And they even have a white paper about how bad their own product is
Lambda is hilariously slow
They went monolith to save costs and improve performance
(lambda spins up a brand new container every time you hit it, maximizing latency)
stuck anchor
google: yes, we can supply on prem airgapped ai cluster that you can run in your own datacenter. but it must connect regularly to our cloud service
dear google, i don't think you understand the concept of airgapped.
austere anchor
It's about utilisation though. You're effectively timesharing the server admins....
This is true for the hardware too. Our traffic is periodic since most of our customers are in the US. Using a cloud provider, we can dynamically auto scale based on traffic and not pay for machines sitting around doing nothing.
deft pewter
Yup. Scale to zero is the biggest draw, if you do it right.
deft pewter
(lambda spins up a brand new container every time you hit it, maximizing latency...
Not every time but I get your point. You don't put hot paths on lambda if the traffic patterns are unpredictable.
Predictable traffic patterns that are still low enough to not justify a whole server instance... lambda is perfect. And if you don't want cold starts, set a provisioned concurrency. Voila.
There are so many ways you can screw up with serverless but that doesn't equate to 'serverless is bad'.
peak slate
No, it's just lambda is bad, I'll still go with that considering Amazon prime video couldn't get it to work well
deft pewter
It didn't work for that use case. That doesn't make it bad.
peak slate
And they're owned by the same company as aws
deft pewter
There are massive fucking swathes of Amazon-owned sites that still run on lambda. Trying to do streaming video through it was dumb.
You know about the whitepaper. You know they didn't turn their back on lambda.
peak slate
I honestly don't remember much from it other than finding it funny that Amazon couldn't make an Amazon service work well
I might also be bias
deft pewter
I can't make my car fly. Doesn't mean my car's shit. It's the wrong tool for the job.
And yes, your bias is showing. I work almost exclusively with serverless tech but I still don't shit on server admins.
peak slate
What admin am I crapping on?
deft pewter
Your take reminds me of the crap that was posted all over blogs and Twitter after that whitepaper released. Because no-one read the whitepaper, just the headline.
peak slate
At best I'm crapping on the devs for lambda
deft pewter
It's okay. We can just agree that you haven't personally experienced some of the things lambda is great at. I get single digit ms response times out of some of mine, barring the cold start (which can be avoided through various techniques).
desert cave
no, aws tricks customers into doing things the most expensive ways ๐
The AWS business model is to be convoluted enough on their billing that a whole industry of consultants has sprung up so you can pay them $500/hr to pay slightly less to Amazon
(ask me what my previous company did lol)
Then again, we got a CTO there who wanted to move everything to the cloud.. and get rid of our four data centers and hundreds of servers and ~100PB of storage, because he couldn't grasp that we were a cloud provider. Scale affects the cost a lot, too, and at that scale AWS was 3-4x the cost per TB, including personnel costs
primal laurel
We have everything on prem. What I'm working on is gonna burn through all the compute we have
iron granite
Dividing by zero.
static schooner
you could generate a whole new set of gotta-have NFTs based on raccoons
there's untold profit just waiting for you
primal laurel
Didn't every single NFT company go bankrupt?
desert cave
Yes, and the links are starting to rot
primal laurel
reef patio
Anybody pack this up for the Start9 Server yet, by chance?
Really looking forward to that if that's on your radar.
iron granite
primal laurel
Anybody pack this up for the Start9 Server yet, by chance?
The what
reef patio
You know....it would take someone probably not very long... - but that's beyond my capabilities.
Been asking for a while can we get someone to make HAOS package to run on the Start9 Pure Server
static schooner
sounds like a feature request for the forum
static schooner
then nothing, I guess
reef patio
I'll check back...1 year
static schooner
you have a whole year to contribute it yourself ๐
reef patio
but I use Start9 for several other things
Best I could do was talk to you guys, and the Start9 guys, which I've done.
Up do you folks now! I hope you do it....you'd get a lot more users.
weak musk
lol or one more.
weak musk
You know that most of the developers are volunteers right? They all have day jobs too.
lone dagger
It's not really up to us. It's up to the community to build this. ๐
light trout
We started long time ago this 9 stuff seems like its later
lone dagger
For example, we're removing official support for a couple installation methods and one community member built something to support those who still want to use those methods.
(or, rather, one of the methods.)
light trout
Pretty sure this crypto thing has docker anyway, so HA would just work
lone dagger
I find it interesting that they built their own OS for this. Is the OS built off Docker? I dunno how that shit works. ๐
light trout
we did the same
light trout
Im not really sure what how this start stuff is, did a quick google and it looks like its a crypto node that you can run with docker or standalone as a dedicated OS.
In both scenarios, I would expect you to be able to run a HA container alongside it.
unborn merlin
mmm crypto garbage.
lone dagger
Im not really sure what how this start stuff is, did a quick google and it looks...
So what you're saying is that things are actually supported to use HA on this server product but it's just not able to HAOS?
light trout
So what you're saying is that things are actually supported to use HA on this se...
Yes, HAOS requires it to be the one and only thing on it, but HA itself as a container you can do wherever you have a container runtime*
-# *some runtimes will work better than others
lone dagger
Thank you, I learned something today! 
static schooner
lol, where this endorsement cuts off is exactly where I would have stopped reading anyway:
to the letter
unborn merlin
ahhh.. crypto trash ๐
ah it uses the word "sovereign" on its description
so.. its also that sovereign-citizen-grade-crazy too
static schooner
lemme just stop you right there...
light trout
lol, where this endorsement cuts off is exactly where I would have stopped readi...
30 min to setup a server???? is this 1994??? do you do it with floppy disks?
crisp oriole
MY 1st integration from cratch https://github.com/Bram-diederik/home-assistant-libvirt-integration/
weak musk
You made that from a crib?!
crisp oriole
you talking to me?
static schooner
weak musk
you talking to me?
Yes
light trout
what is a crib
rbis full of vitamin c
iron granite
Might that be #1284960456880029707 ? 
static schooner
it's conveniently posted there as well
crisp oriole
Im just happy. bloddy chatgpt is a terrible developer.
should be fired if its was a colege
weak musk
Hey guys Iโm new here is this where I get support?
light trout
I find it actually pretty good, but like other interns it needs strict instructions
weak musk
Really itโs more of a simple question
lone dagger
I find it actually pretty good, but like other interns it needs strict instructi...
This is why it's awful for new people.
light trout
so am i
crisp oriole
I find it actually pretty good, but like other interns it needs strict instructi...
it introduces regression all the time. at time AI slows down so i begin again with posting my code. and say DONT USE the python libvirt and stuff like that
light trout
ok enough internet for today ๐
weak musk
Come on things were getting good
lone dagger
"Sweep in and make sure Missy gets a good laugh โ "
crisp oriole
"Sweep in and make sure Missy gets a good laugh โ
"
making a cheaky lul sound again?
weak musk
Imagine if he swooped!
static schooner
This is why it's awful for new people.
I'm convinced that ChatGPT really a jobs program - it's designed to build an industry of "Prompt engineers"
lone dagger
Fixing a problem that wasn't there.
weak musk
Predictive text engineer
static schooner
what we need is another LLM that generates prompts for ChatGPT
crisp oriole
@static schooner im a software tester. I can work with any type of developer
lone dagger
Predictive text engineer
Except they engineer nothing.
iron granite
lone dagger
it me
weak musk
Except they engineer nothing.
Unless you include the downfall of society
crisp oriole
Unless you include the downfall of society
recursive linking
lone dagger
Unless you include the downfall of society
I wouldn't blame that on the tool users, but the tool creators instead.
lone dagger
I'M TRYING TO BE PUBLICLY IMPARTIAL OKAY
unborn merlin
I wouldn't blame that on the tool users, but the tool creators instead.
and if you speak out-- you're fired!
https://boingboing.net/2025/05/12/copyright-office-head-fired-after-failing-to-bless-copyright-exemption-for-big-techs-ai-training.html/amp
weak musk
lone dagger
and if you speak out-- you're fired!
https://boingboing.net/2025/05/12/copyright...
Funny story. I shittalked Meta every interview I had for this job and stuck my foot in my mouth every time. They still hired me. Wild to actually value differing opinions, even when it's your social media manager who hates social media.
unborn merlin
Funny story. I shittalked Meta every interview I had for this job and stuck my f...
how to get hired at meta: be willing to torrent on work laptops!
lone dagger
I cannot imagine Guy looking at me like "Missy, your care for this planet doesn't align with our company anymore."
static schooner
how to get hired at meta: be willing to torrent on work laptops!
Look at all the free content we can use for training!
iron granite
I cannot imagine Guy looking at me like "Missy, your care for this planet doesn'...
Destroying the planet would propably remove social media.
unborn merlin
*Look at all the free content we can use for training!*
but they also tried to avoid seeding as much as possible.
so hilariously enough-- probably banned from any/every private tracker.
weak musk
static schooner
everyone knows that profit comes from the taking, not the giving
unborn merlin
everyone knows that profit comes from the taking, not the giving
as long as you're already rich*
lone dagger
My pointed question was "if you value privacy, why are you on Meta platforms that were specifically fined for selling data to external companies".
Paulus responds "you know we do all our meetings in VR???"
unborn merlin
the poors aren't allowed to take.
unborn merlin
My pointed question was "if you value privacy, why are you on Meta platforms tha...
"Oh so I can use my rigged fursona right?"
unborn merlin
it only took about 10yrs for media companies to be morons with content ๐
weak musk
My sister interviewed with meta and had no active accounts with them when asked why she said โlook, I know what you do with user data- you should be more concerned if I did have an accountโ
lone dagger
When I was unemployed, I refused to apply for Meta roles.
Did that bite me in the ass? Probably.
But also I wouldn't be here.
unborn merlin
I need to stop being lazy and.. finish my new media server with proper zfs array for storage instead of just lazily attaching new drives and etc.. ๐
i bought most of the bits just before tariff idiocy
I just need to...
stop being a bum and finish designing my case and printing it.
๐
lone dagger
I have a fat HD that I just don't use and should probably turn it into a server.
Sitting there, empty.
unborn merlin
yeah i only brought 3 drives so far for new server with room for..
13 more?
72f and 72% humidity..
Boy really.. really considering getting the AC going instead right now..
lone dagger
I'd check how much storage I actually have but I just realized my PC monitor isn't plugged in anymore.
peak slate
I have a bunch of magnets and platters turned into coasters
From the older drives I did gut
But after a point you don't need more
It's seriously like a dozen or more old drives
unborn merlin
i ended up doing it and then tossing most of the magnets on my workdesk's upper shelf support
so I can just.. stick tools to it and etc ๐
peak slate
I have two zfs pools, old 8tb drives and new 18tb drives, was originally just going to decommission the 8's but they still work and can be my download pool
crisp oriole
You guys have backups right
peak slate
Which is now utterly overkill for incoming data
peak slate
You guys have backups right
Yes for all my mission critical data
And hard to get back media
lone dagger
ugh I don't wanna plug in my monitor for you all. ๐คฃ
but you're making me want to tell you my number!
crisp oriole
Cant you login from your phone missy?
lone dagger
Into my PC? No.
iron granite
but you're making me want to tell you my number!
I can only count to four! ๐ค 
lone dagger
FINE I PLUGGED IT BACK IN
crisp oriole
I can only count to four! ๐ค <a:headbang:1331565531731329136>
Join a maching band
lone dagger
Can I get this from you when my Samsung finally fully dies? 
It's okay, we don't use the remote for ours. ๐คฃ
We use our Soundbar remote and everything else is the Xbox.
lone dagger
FINE I PLUGGED IT BACK IN
Oh yeah this is a baby drive all things considered.
3.6TB.
peak slate
All drives are good drives, except the dead ones
lone dagger
You're a drive for ants
static schooner
and their little ant movies and such
lone dagger
Yeah I looked at that number and was like "yep, that is not a media server size."
So I guess I'll just have it sit there with nothing on it some more.
peak slate
All media servers start somewhere
My original media server was 2tb when it started
Though I guess I kept media on my laptop at 320gb before that
peak slate
Hey 2009 wasn't that long ago
I still have the external case that drive was in since it's esata capable and that wasn't super common (and still isn't)
lone dagger
I deny reality
Yep, I knew most of these numbers were going to come from a decade ago.
peak slate
It'll hold a lot of music and audiobooks too
lone dagger
I've turned 25 a few times now
You're worse than some women, Steve.
I turn 40 next month and I am quite happy with this.
peak slate
You're worse than some women, Steve.
So what you mean is I need to pump those numbers up?
Lol I'm not that old yet
lone dagger
So what you mean is I need to pump those numbers up?
Do you have any children? Tell people you're their brother. That's how you get out of rookie status.
peak slate
Do you have any children? Tell people you're their brother. That's how you get o...
Nah, just nephews
lone dagger
My mom's grandma (so my great grandmother) would tell people she was my mom's aunt.
peak slate
I'm closer in age to my uncle than to them though
Iirc
Found the unraid user!
(I use it too)
My latest update I moved all my stuff to zfs on unraid after being burned by quietly corrupting data too many times
I didn't want to overcomplicate it with moving to truenas though considering how much I have setup in unraid and how well it runs otherwise
ivory fjord
I want these lights for outside, but they don't mention anything about being waterproof. would a silicon tube be sufficient, or is it too risky?
got it because I was looking at these as well but wasn't sure what would be best. I intend on lining it on the inside of a rock wall in the garden
I'm blind lol sorry
ivory fjord
lmao, love it
clear ferry
Disgusting
deft pewter
Just put it in the cloud 
deft pewter
He might have a shiny dome but he's not Bezos.
peak slate
Just put it in the cloud <:tapshead:714262739627016193>
Lol the cost of that would be $$$
clear ferry
I just delivered back my rental, HongQi E-HS9, what a weird car
peak slate
Or abuse a cloud provider until they kick you out
deft pewter
Yeah, storing terabytes of data long-term isn't one of cloud's strong points ๐
peak slate
Lol the guy who had 1PB of porn on Google drive
peak slate
And lost it all cause no one has that kind of bandwidth to pull locally quickly
deft pewter
You must live a really boring life if this is all you do. There are probably free therapy groups and social groups you could attend.
Depression is serious. You should get help.
It's okay. Jesus loves you.
primal laurel
<@&330946878646517761>
iron granite
lone dagger
The effort some people put into harassing others, I fucking swear.
deft pewter
I think they're just damaged.
lone dagger
I wish the IP block in Discord worked better.
lone dagger
I think they're just damaged.
Most people who hurt others for the lulz are damaged.
Sometimes they can't help it. But recognizing it and working on being better is the key here.
They have failed at that process, clearly.
primal laurel
Most people who hurt others for the lulz are damaged.
Have you ever played call of duty online? Or league of legends? ๐
lone dagger
Have you ever played call of duty online? Or league of legends? ๐
No, because those people are toxic af.
I am a woman, do you really think I like playing with those fuckheads?
iron granite
The effort some people put into harassing others, I fucking swear.
They are not even good at it.
-# Pathetic
clear ferry
Most people who hurt others for the lulz are damaged.
What if I just torment them for the lulz, like I do with poor jorg?
lone dagger
atx you're damaged even without doing that.
(tbf, I am not sure I know anyone who ISN'T damaged in one way or another...)
primal laurel
its okay. Because I have indian food
iron granite
lone dagger
https://tenor.com/view/the-big-bang-theory-sheldon-cooper-my-mother-had-me-teste...
I hate this so much because he's very obviously autistic and he'd pass a test with flying colors for it.
Though he was a good example to point to when my family was like "HAHA MISSY YOU LIKE YOUR COUCH SPOT, TOO."
clear ferry
Are you really passing such a test or are you really failing it
lone dagger
Jokes on you, fuckers, that's because I TOO AM AUTISTIC.
iron granite
Everything is fine unless the flag is upside down.
clear ferry
lone dagger
Are you really passing such a test or are you really failing it
Considering the goal is getting a label, I'd argue being diagnosed is passing.
clear ferry
So if I get 299 on a 300 test, I have failed the autistic test, and I have to redo it?
If I fail it 3 times, do I have to have a quarantine period of 6 months?
lone dagger
If I fail it 3 times, do I have to have a quarantine period of 6 months?
I think that depends on country, tbh..
primal laurel
I did an autism test, but failed ๐คก
clear ferry
Best regards a guy who did 30+ certifications in less than 3 years, and is definitely not autistic at all
lone dagger
Legitimately, the state of testing for autistic humans is just so fucked that undiagnosed autistic people are just as valid as those formally diagnosed.
clear ferry
Formally
lone dagger
Formally, yes.
lone dagger
As in, medically.
As in, you have a piece of paper that says "this person is autistic".
Written by a neuropsychologist.
clear ferry
My autistic drivers licence
I see
Licence and registration please
NO
_reaches for sudoku in the glovebox _
๐ซ
Also both my daughters have something diagnosed, if my wife makes a sound, I start repeating it, then both my daughters do
Echolala or what not
clear ferry
lone dagger
Yeah, if you walk like a duck and sound like a duck, you're probably a duck, atx.
clear ferry
clear ferry
Good think you aren't a tiktoker or you'd write *uck and I wouldn't know if it was fuck or duck, or heck cuck
primal laurel
the definition of autistic has changed a lot. A lot of people who are 'highly gifted' intellectually are also classified as autistic now. While that group is very different
clear ferry
Thanks hunny
the Webster's English Dictionary defines autistic as oh wait, there is a picture of missy here
๐
lone dagger
the definition of autistic has changed a lot. A lot of people who are 'highly gi...
Nah they arenโt much different outside of having different needs. Itโs a spectrum, just like ADHD. In fact thereโs stacking evidence that suggests ADHD and autism are indeed the same spectrum.
crisp oriole
Lies my diagnosis is noting near missys picture
lone dagger
The definition changed well over a decade ago and includes women - which it very much didnโt before. But weโre still stuck in this โautism looks one wayโ thing.
primal laurel
Nah they arenโt much different outside of having different needs. Itโs a spectru...
The number of diagnosis of autism has increased by around 20x compared to 1990. That's not just because we got better at diagnosing it, but the definition changed
lone dagger
You meet one autistic person, youโve only met one. Every autistic person is unique.
clear ferry
I'm thankfully highly functioning enough to be able to work with all people, I have a gift of infiltration and deception
lone dagger
The number of diagnosis of autism has increased by around 20x compared to 1990. ...
The definition did not change. The name did.
Aspergerโs = Autism Spectrum Disorder Level 1
We were always there.
primal laurel
No, sorry.
crisp oriole
Asperger and autisme are diffrent because one was based on diagnosing children the other adults. As fair i remember
lone dagger
Asperger and autisme are diffrent because one was based on diagnosing children t...
Negative.
lone dagger
iron granite
Afaik, the name "Asperger" isn't in clinical use anymore.
There are several degrees of autistic disorders according to the DSM-5.
crisp oriole
I rather stay by my introduction of the dutch autisme institute than some wikipedia pages. I know so many that are wrong.
clear ferry
Afaik, the name "Asperger" isn't in clinical use anymore.
There are several degr...
Is that one of the codecs vlc supports?
lone dagger
I rather stay by my introduction of the dutch autisme institute than some wikipe...
Iโd rather go by the DSM-V which is where they got the source from but you do you I guess.
iron granite
Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders = DSM (version 5)
International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems = ICD (version 10 - edit: there is also a version 11 available now)
crisp oriole
Iโd rather go by the DSM-V which is where they got the source from but you do yo...
The inititual research started with kids at one and adults with the other
clear ferry
But can DSM-V run on RISC-V now, that is all I need to know
lone dagger
And Europe isnโt great when it comes to mental health support as a whole. Itโs the one thing America does decent at.
iron granite
But can DSM-V run on RISC-V now, that is all I need to know
Yes
clear ferry
Great
crisp oriole
There is no history described in the dsm
clear ferry
crisp oriole
Im preparing for a 2.30 trainride tomorrow. Going to sneek.
iron granite
There is no history described in the dsm
Neither the DSM nor the ICD are meant to keep track of history.
Those are inventories according to the present state of science/medicine.
clear ferry
You would love my get up at 0400 and fly and work and fly back home again so I go to bed at 00 then@crisp oriole
crisp oriole
Fly to work?
clear ferry
Yes
clear ferry
When it is 1600km away
crisp oriole
I hope its hybride
crisp oriole
When i worked in apeldoorn and lived in amsterdam. I travelled a lot
lone dagger
The inititual research started with kids at one and adults with the other
The fact is that Aspergerโs as a diagnostic term is not used anymore, but was used just over a decade ago and a lot of people (read: men) who were diagnosed with it still call themselves that. I run into it often. There is no adult/child distinction.
crisp oriole
Yes then autisme was based on kids or counter visa.
One did research on kids the other on adults. Initually
lone dagger
One did research on kids the other on adults. Initually
I looked at what that is youโre talking about and cringed a bit. My government is talking about an autism registry for the same โresearchโ reasons except itโs definitely not gonna be used the same. 
lone dagger
Like my nails btw <@303933403303247872>
YES YES I DO
crisp oriole
Dutch government gona drop a special test for ass peeps who want a drivers licence
Because there was 0 proof peeps with autism are not better drivers
It was like can you multitask and questions like that.
lone dagger
omfg
It's a WRITTEN test even? Not a DRIVING test????
I got 100% on my last driving test and impressed the RETIRED POLICE OFFICER by using my mirrors to reverse around a corner instead of turning around.
crisp oriole
No oral
crisp oriole
150 euro for a talk and a drugs test
lone dagger
Me, days ago: I want to move to the NL.
Me, now: 
iron granite
"Can you drive?" - "Yes." - "Okay, fine. You passed."
lone dagger
I literally see physics, guys, trust me, I know wtf I'm doing behind the wheel.
Food discourse: Do you pull string cheese or bite it when you eat it? ๐ง
I used to pull it apart. Now I don't. I have no idea why.
iron granite
The closest to that I have eaten are Babybel
lone dagger
Maybe that's why I changed, lol. I started eating Babybels, too.
unborn merlin
Afaik, the name "Asperger" isn't in clinical use anymore.
There are several degr...
Do they still use factorio to test? /s
iron granite
A matter of factorios
scenic radish
Just discovered thingino which is an open-source alternative firmware for cameras that use certain Ingenic SoCs... time to move over to that from wz_mini_hacks I think
unborn merlin
hm, neat
scenic radish
wish I had heard of it sooner
unborn merlin
gasp
its almost like that..
openIPC thing
Except they tell you what fucking cameras you can use with it outright.
scenic radish
Supported devices: You tell me!
unborn merlin
*Supported devices: You tell me!*
no openIPC is
"Here's a list of supported SOC's!"
... Thanks fuckfaces! that isn't fucking useful in the slightest to me.
scenic radish
tbf you could search for cameras with the listed SoCs
unborn merlin
yeah; except its never just that straightforward.
most cameras don't just tell you their SOCS
lone dagger
*Supported devices: You tell me!*
mood
unborn merlin
they'll advertise based on the sensor.. but usually not the SOCs
scenic radish
yeah I suppose that's true
I've had a good experience with wz_mini_hacks, but I definitely like the idea of a full firmware replacement more
unborn merlin
I have a bunch of cheapo ip cameras here that.. they work okay enough?
and.. their root password is cracked so I can ssh in if I really want to? ๐คฃ
crisp oriole
Me, days ago: I want to move to the NL.
Me, now: <a:bearshake:104146276442361860...
Well it is gone next year. And there is no autisme registry. So if you dont say you got it. They never give you that test.
It was mandatory for me because i lost my drivers licence due to a psychoses which is understandable
lone dagger
Well it is gone next year. And there is no autisme registry. So if you dont say ...
Yeah, I had a friend here who lost her license because she had too many seizures. Definitely a safety thing that I understand.
Your original description made me 
though.
I'm a little sensitive right now okay
iron granite
But do they support showing the cameras stream as ASCII symbols for watching them via a text based CLI browser like lynx?
crisp oriole
I'm a little sensitive right now okay
Mental support is allowed in this channel
lone dagger
All of my rages involve politics, so I can only rage so hard right meow.
In here at least.
iron granite
glacial knot
But do they support showing the cameras stream as ASCII symbols for watching the...
Browser? What is that? Telnet all the way
lone dagger
Jorg gets mad at me when I break the rules.
glacial knot
Who makes the rules here?
scenic radish
|| can we talk about how crazy it is that many areas around the world are built in a way that requires you to own a large, expensive, dangerous metal box to go anywhere? ||
lone dagger
Who makes the rules here?
.... >.>
glacial knot
|| can we talk about how crazy it is that many areas around the world are built ...
There's motorized 2 wheelers
scenic radish
really grateful to live somewhere that I can walk, bike, or take transit pretty much anywhere I need/want
crisp oriole
In here at least.
Dm?
unborn merlin
really grateful to live somewhere that I can walk, bike, or take transit pretty ...
sure show off.
I bet you don't even have a risk of becoming homeless if you have a slight medical issue.
glacial knot
Really depends on where I'm going
I commute to work on a train, but if I go to the same city for ๐ฅ practice, I take my car
scenic radish
sure show off.
I bet you don't even have a risk of becoming homeless if you hav...
I assume you're talking about the US, in which case I || unfortunately || do live there
lone dagger
Dm?
Appreciated, but I gotta compartmentalize that shit into a box while working, too much to do still for Community Day (and a trip to Dublin the week after). However, if my regular venting sources set some boundaries, I will keep you in mind. 
unborn merlin
I assume you're talking about the US, in which case I || unfortunately || do liv...
where exactly?
you can walk or bike or take public transit? the current admin is very much against that sort of nonsense and we will work on fixing that! /s
๐
scenic radish
lone dagger
<#1284963754911727818>
Okay baby mod
iron granite
<#1284963754911727818>
Or #memes - depending on the outcome
lone dagger
Quick, everyone hide. Sonoma's here.
forest edge
|| can we talk about how crazy it is that many areas around the world are built ...
well grow wings already mr to-good-for-standard-transportation
weak musk
Okay baby mod
Just follow the rules! Itโs not that hard!
iron granite
lone dagger
Just follow the rules! Itโs not that hard!
There gonna be someone abusing their powers here soon.
weak musk
Oh boy Iโm getting elevated!
tidal bronze
where exactly?
you can walk or bike or take public transit? the current admin i...
But why?
scenic radish
well grow wings already mr to-good-for-standard-transportation
may I introduce you to my friends ๐ฆต๐ฆต๐ฒ ๐
unborn merlin
may I introduce you to my friends ๐ฆต๐ฆต๐ฒ ๐
that looks like socialism..
Or like..
Are you taunting police, because they're too out of shape to run? /s
forest edge
may I introduce you to my friends ๐ฆต๐ฆต๐ฒ ๐
scenic radish
forest edge
you listed causes of strokes. cept that last one but then public transportation has been known to make a few veins burst in the head
tidal bronze
Who got stokes?
scenic radish
walking, biking, and trains are causes of strokes? 
forest edge
hell yea
tidal bronze
Anyway what's "biking"?
scenic radish
cycling, riding a bike, etc.
tidal bronze
cycling, riding a bike, etc.
People still do that?
scenic radish
I was not
forest edge
sorry, you said it was crazy
tidal bronze
The lifestyle of the rich and famous I guess. So much time to spare
scenic radish
sorry, you said it was crazy
I said it was crazy that many areas in the world are built / have been rebuilt to make cars necessary to get anywhere
forest edge
I said it was crazy that many areas in the world are built / have been rebuilt t...
well nothin g prevent you running or bicycling the same roads lol
scenic radish
except, well, the risk of death
forest edge
although that whole "bike lane" fad was too costly to keep up
unborn merlin
except the morbidly obese trucks driven by someone who never uses it for truck things.
blissful zodiac
What have I missed?
forest edge
bike lane either made the road more narrow for moving vehicles or cost more to expand
more narrow lead to it's own issues
scenic radish
|| what if I told you cars came after many roads already existed ||
unborn merlin
more narrow lead to it's own issues
I bet you even think the red light things to merge onto freeways is bad too.
forest edge
not to mention cyclist don't follow the damn rules anyways.. half the time you still saw them riding the sidewalks with a bike lane within inches of them
scenic radish
ah there it is lol
unborn merlin
because people in this country are sociopaths on the road*
tidal bronze
I bet you even think the red light things to merge onto freeways is bad too.
If it's not traffic state driven
unborn merlin
with overly large vehicles with blind spots the size of small houses.
forest edge
ah there it is lol
face it. the lack of love for cyclist isn't going away lol
tidal bronze
Anyways did someone get a stroke?
forest edge
Anyways did someone get a stroke?
you stroking?
tidal bronze
After 2pm
scenic radish
> imagine getting mad at someone riding a bike
forest edge
thats actually pretty easy lol
unborn merlin
\> imagine getting mad at someone riding a bike
how dare they take up a 10th of the space my obese truck that I use to get groceries at target takes up!
unborn merlin
\> imagine getting mad at someone riding a bike
I somewhat wanted to get these at some point.. ๐
primal laurel
we did it, we finally turned math gay
unborn merlin
I've said it before. I'll say it again.
Imaginary numbers were already pretty gay tbh.
scenic radish
we did it, we finally turned math gay
Alex Jones in shambles
primal laurel
Imaginary numbers were already pretty gay tbh.
you say that in EE you're not leaving the building alive
crisp oriole
Imaginary numbers were already pretty gay tbh.
Well there are 3 fases of matter. Dont do Square root -1 and there are two sexes. Are the lowergrade standards
scenic radish
are you high
crisp oriole
are you high
Yeah. Why?
weak musk
Yeah. Why?
@lone dagger please pin
crisp oriole
<@303933403303247872> please pin
Your just jealous
lone dagger
I somewhat wanted to get these at some point.. ๐
I also want these.
weak musk
Your just jealous
I donโt particularly love getting high tbh
crisp oriole
I like this one better
primal laurel
weed has no effect on me. Not even the good stuff
crisp oriole
I donโt particularly love getting high tbh
I like a mild stoned feeling. Cheapers preroled joins from time to time. Same as alcohol i like typsy.
tidal bronze
Mild?
crisp oriole
Medium
tidal bronze
Happy medium?
crisp oriole
Happy medium?
Philosophical medium
lone dagger
You can get high or you can get blasted. Honestly, the chill that a good CBD-G strain brings is solid and not so head heavy.
tidal bronze
You too much
lone dagger
You don't have to smoke so much you're a couch potato.
crisp oriole
You don't have to smoke so much you're a couch potato.
Two hacs integrations prove i dont become that
tidal bronze
Sometimes you just need enough to deal with people on the internet.
You have to deal with people?