#the-water-cooler
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I visit one of my childhood homes 5x a week or more.
Because the other one is no longer there.
I don't remember first IP but I still remember the number for the second phone line I had at home as a kid, that I ran a BBS on
You should definitely try to connect to it with a modem from time to time
haha
suddenly religion looks better.. crazy how that works
wake up babe, new pope just dropped
new pope, who dis?
Disturbs new hit
🎵Get up, come on, get down with the religion
You mother get up, come on, get down with the religion
You fucker get up, come on, get down with the religion
Faith is the gift, that has been given to me🎵
Deep dish communion wafers are going to piss off East Coast Catholics until we explain that they're only for special occasions and we usually use thin square ones
쏨이시대 (@missom.bsky.social)
Wait does this sanctify deep dish pizza?
🤣
Hopefully the new pope comes with a TPM for longer service and compatibility
Sjikagå?
He is equipped with a Trusted Prayer Module.
Today he got the new major version update - from 13 to 14.
Politics nm
and the ability to avoid shaking hands with non-human things. /s
Does he have a PrayStation 6 in his office?
Or a Confession Box
playing doom 3
No he left doom.. https://bsky.app/profile/theonion.com/post/3loolkwxyds2w
I watched it via netflix on US vpn. Dont tell netflix
And here's the segue to our sponsor...
I mean if netflix isnt actually blocking all the big popular vpns already thats their fault..
You guys have Netflix?
I have jellyfin
plex.
I wouldnt if I didnt have a lifetime license for a whiile tho
I need to stop being a bum and complete my new server build so I can.. properly organize and cleanup my library..
eh I dont really get much of that saved either tbh.
... I'll put it this way the old folks of boomers in the house..
.... still have motion blur turned on the tv
they dont deserve anything higher than like 720p for movies.
Some people like their soap operas
I find the PSAs around holidays about that funny
Here's how to turn off motion smoothing on all popular TVs!
rewatching on OLED is a bigger upgrade 😛
Only thing I do in 4k are animated and concerts, everything else is 1080
I have Plex as well. And I dont have a Plex pass. But guess what? Zerotier lets me stream my Plex server to my phone no matter where I am anyway. 😂
animated? interesting
Yes, anime in 4k is brrrrrrr, also cartoons in general
You leave your house?
he sits on the roof from time to time
you have a house?
Classic situation where your APs are only beaming downwards and not upwards, smh my head
Those looks like dinosaur eggs
Or dragon eggs
Gotta power then up and see what hatches
Bluetooth 🤮
As long as it isn't baddragon speakers I'm fine with that
Just noticed, 2 pack surround sound huh? Are they DVC? 😅
Hey @hexed spade
Exclusive preview of 1.15
They leak sound from every joint and crack, so it is actually 17.4.2
Xtremely popular
Space is abundant. No need to subject yourself to anything less, IMHO
from 2-6gb to 30+gb.. hard pass
VHS recordings or bust
Why wait until 6pm to go non-verbal? 
Bring the bilge pump, working on sprinkler at the moment
I get to play with the foam machine for the helicopter landing pad soon (unless I am arrested for flooding the rest of the hospital first)
can be lower on x265 encoding.. But not too many stream boxes tend to support it unless its newer..
I'm far from being an Apple fan but I absolutely love our Apple TV 4k for handling local streams. x265, Atmos, the works.
And we wired for ethernet in the new house, so bitrates aren't an issue either.
Yess, nice. You’re the best. Can we stop holding our breaths for card-mod soon too…..? (Still using the 3.5.0 and having to explain all the time 😉 )
Even over wifi your bitrates should be fine
I’m in contact with the phoenix guy.
The certified harddrives only thing? Or something else?
The file name is must use our overpriced drives so I presume so
heeeeeeeeey im in this picture. Fuck synology!
laughs in zfs
USB support too
Depends on your WiFi, right? 😉 We're in a big house and the router is in a weird spot. And I didn't want to mess around with repeaters, so we have ethernet for the backhaul and a couple of APs in good spots.
But even with the APs, we have enough wireless devices that I'd rather keep the airwaves clear when we're streaming.
Everything competes for airtime with WiFi, right?
Yes, but getting more than 150mbps over wifi would be plenty for 99% of your streaming
I live in an apartment and can get over 500mbps over wifi (congested airwaves for example). Ethernet backhaul for APs and you would be fine
wifi go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
also, what is this routers, you disgust me jesus

routers?
Uh. How do you manage a network without a router? 
I'm all for breaking the network out into switches/APs... but there needs to be a router somewhere.
I presume Atx typoed repeater
When people say "routers" in this context they generally mean combined ISP devices or wifi / router combos
WiFi router combos are perfectly fine for the average residential place
ISP devices can go (though some ISP devices are just good quality average wifi/router combos without any brandings)
I don't do it
I don't judge people for doing it though, its cheap and who cares
sweden looks terrible without the snow
I know, but I still can't see it from here
I'm using an ISP-provided router, yes. If I had fibre, I might provide my own... we have 5G since it's the only good option here.
Router is good enough for what we need
Most of our traffic is internal, so it's only doing the DHCP for that.
anyone having issues since update where they can't connect locally?
maybe
Thanks, turned out to be a chrome permissions issue
ChatGPT advertises me "Home Assistant Discord’s #frontend channel often shares useful updates on dashboard features."
I don't think there is any?
It also offered me to follow HA badge styling update status and once I'm back it would inform me when there are some updates done 😄 I didn't know it would support such either.
We love ChatGPT.
Are you sure it is a palindrome?
and wait what, 21^2 = 441?
Now I don't believe that it is odd number either.
It's all wrong except the part about primes
hopeless feature request. let the voice assistant understand DTMF tone input.
dual target massive fart tone?
DTMF, what is this ? are we living in 1998 ? or are you just planning on moving to the US ?

@clear ferry is yet a other weirdo chick that does not accept incoming anonymous calls on the phone when lost in the middle of no where.
It’s not wrong about not being divisible by 2
Calls are simple. You zoomer
50% chance it got that right
That’s still not good odds for ai
No good odds for russian roulette
Then thats better than 150mbps
ChatGPT talking shit? Never!
But also calling gets someone to answer quickly
Which is useful
Except in this case we're talking about local streaming, where you're not limited by internet speeds 😛
Except a speed test doesn't have to be over the internet
I can do speedtests to my servers locally
Communcation over the phone has less change to be put out of context.
Just checking, the way you were wording it was speed tests always have to be over the internet
Which is not true
Speed test can be done on a ram disk
Sounds a little overkill though if you're constantly limited by a gig connection
But they're not limited by the gigabit connection because they stream internally...
I don't know why you wouldn't go with the next tier up internally anyway. Your broadband will get quicker in the future. Might as well be ready for it.
2.5g
It getting quicker doesn't mean I would always want to pay for it though
Maybe not yet. Wait until we have 32k/120hz uncompressed streams for our neural interfaces.
You don't know what the future holds. No point speccing out your internal network to match current generation broadband.
like all those people who planned out garages for flying cars
Considering I could live on 250mbps (but pay for gigabit) a gigabit home network is perfectly fine
If that sort of wacky tech starts appearing then I'll consider putting money into it, given that sort of uncompressed stream wouldn't even be cheap to utilise for a while
Yeah, let's consider the 3 people in the world that did that.
if you have cat 5e now you would have to rewire everything as well right? So for 10G you would need new routers, new switches, new cabling and then the appliances have to support it as well. Fuck that
you could run just additional 5e lines
i seriously doubt you come anywhere near utilizing that
even transfering 4k movies back and forth lol
talking transfering the file not streaming
Wouldn't that be worse? "Why am I only getting 2.5? I pay for 3"
what's that gonna be after tariffs once stock dries up? $300?
500% tariffs please.
yeah well you brought up microtik so thats' why I just mentioned it
Companies are already spreading their costs/losses across all territories in response. It's even impacting those of us who don't have an orange dwarf for a president.
hmm, Dont know who that is, but I do hope you will work it out, together if must be 😉
I cant find anything decent under 250 eur. And that's only 5 ports. 1G is a fraction of that 😢
Not all companies
I'm avoiding ones that bump prices because of america
I didn't say it was all companies, did I?
I haven't noticed one so far
First example that springs to mind: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/apr/14/sony-hikes-playstation-5-price-by-25-as-trump-tariffs-bite#:~:text=Sony has increased the price,in Europe%2C starting from Monday.
25% fucking increase because of another nation's leader.
Profit goes brrrrr
I’ve got 10 gb fiber because it’s all they offer but at half the price of old provider’s 1gb fiber 
Oh yeah forgot about them doing that
Though that’s not something I’m buying so completely forgot
what makes it a tough sell is that transfer time is inversely related to transfer speed. So 1G to 10G sounds really nice, but in reality the time gained is just a few seconds.... for consumer stuff that's just stupid
lol all that to serve other people
Yup. Yet another example of using one policy/event as cover to increase margins everywhere else. Let's watch the prices not go back down after.
I only have 56TB free of 150TB, should do some cleanup
I have 60TB of unused ssd space i could always put into production
after years of putting movies on my nas I've used... 4 TB
ok I'll reserve 100GB for LOTR trilogy theatrical edition.
Box it up and ship it to me
reminder how much of clusterfuck windows is
cries in poor
Because it can’t delete a file in use?
not in use. Apparently it's a thumbnail file, which windows creates and then explorer uses to display stuff
which is then preventing me to delete stuff 'because it's in use'
is using 3.9T of 10.9T
Well it obviously says it’s in use lol
Though you could probably force the deletion using powershell
I have 4x3TiB 7200rpm HGST SAS drives in a RAIDZ1 pool.
it's not in use, its windows shenanigans. Oddly enough viewing the folder fixes it...
So far, all are still passing SMART checks, but 2 of them do have some relocated sectors now, so they'll need to be replaced soonish. (Cheap refurb enterprise drives.
Wouldn’t exactly say it’s windows being a clusterfuck if it has a file lock on it.
Like other oses you can use the command line and force deletion if you want though
file lock? what do you mean
It was preventing you from deleting it as there was a lock on the file
Because it was in use
it's a file windows created and windows uses. It has nothing to do with anything im doing with my system. Yet it is preventing me from deleting a folder
Windows explorer was using it
That's still a program
Also that problem has been around since xp
what's your point? that makes it okay? I dont get it
My Plex server runs FreeBSD. My desktop runs opensuse tumbleweed, my laptop runs openbsd (the same laptop that was my first delving into HAOS.)
Yeah, that means it's in use 🤣
that file is typically hidden too
it's not in use
it is, by windows explorer, which is the folder button on the windows bar
which runs 24/7 on windows machines
unless it crashes, in which it immediately restarts
yeah okay, not in use by me. Windows explorer preventing file deletion is just stupid
if you have a folder open or are looking at your desktop, windows explorer is in use
Windows explorer is also the start bar and other general UI elements
Yes, it does a ton of shit
You can also restart it easily enough
if you stop it to delete the file, make sure you have cmd prompt open already
sounds like im battling the OS again
well, there's really no reason to delete the file tbh
it's a necessary file
just ignore it and move on with life
im not deleting the file. Im deleting the folder it's in
and have a bunch of empty folders on my system? no thanks
yah, then close the folder, open cmd and delete the folder
not if you have the folder open 😉
restarting will also remove the hold on the file too if windows explorer messed up and kept looking at the file
which happens sometimes
how do I delete a folder without opening it? and no im not using CMD
then you likely have to restart because something is using the file, windows explorer or something else
or if you find the process using it, youc an kill the process via task manager
things mess up sometimes
I know all of that, wasn't my point
your point was to bitch about windows, when all os's have stupidness like that
it's a file windows creates and windows manages. Which then prevents me from doing something useful. It wasn't one folder either, it was like 20 of them
not this level of stupidness
eh, i disagree
I've had all sorts of problems with both mac and linux with random ass shit that's dead simple on windows
all os's are the same, they all suck in their own way and we must navigate around the suck
linux will do what you tell it to, even if it fucks you up. Im okay with that, that's user error. This is windows actively working against me and that pisses me off 1000x more
I'd rather have these minor issues with that then trying to get a random peice of obscure hardware to work on linux.
completely unrelated
I can usually use lsof in Mac and Linux to figure out what's going on there
not at all, it's just a different pain point
plug and play on windows, 8 years of searching the internet for how to get it to work on linux
just a different pain point
Funny, I have the opposite experience. Especially lately (last 10 years). Most things just work on Linux. On Windows I have to hunt for a driver.
get my external portable monitor to work then 🤣
im also fine with that, done it plenty of times. I'm not saying linux has no pain points or less pain points even. Just that it will never do stuff like this
I've had really good luck with built in widnows drivers or the hardware typically comes with appropriate drivers
Generally, I am wary of hardware that ships with its own driver or requires it. There is a very little reason for anybody to reinvent a standard. Like there are plenty of standards for monitors, why would this third-party not utilize one of them? Seems suspicious to me.
Well, you'd be wary of all camera manufactures then
The exception would be if something is truly novel hardware, which doesn’t have an established standard.
expensive cameras*
Like DSLR’s?
camera cameras
like, the literal ccd camera
they typically come with drivers for all 3 os's
the joys of manufacturing
Interesting! I had never seen nor heard of that. I’m not that into cameras or photography though.
oh, it's not for that, it's for inspection typically
looks like one of those old spy cameras
I'm not into either, unless you pay me to integrate it into your assembly line 😉
I do wonder why though. Probably something to do with the controls that the camera offers being more robust than what a generic WebCam driver would provide.
My assembly line is fine thank you.
Yes, if you want to run image processing and/or measurements, you need direct access to each pixel from a raw image
depends what kind of processing you do. But I remember you work in automation right? Then it makes sense
So this definitely sounds like it falls into my “exceptions” category. Probably most enterprise. I’m sure there’s a whole slew of bespoke industrial products that fall into this category. Super specific needs and they also probably don’t want to release their drivers into an open source kernel because they think it’s some sort of competitive edge for them.
it's 100% enterprise
I’m also just some dude and my philosophy and criteria are not really meaningful to anybody.
but that's the only time I've needed drivers in windows is my point
Maybe Windows has gotten better since I last was using it! It’s admittedly been a while.
virtually everything is plug and play
I believe you do need a driver for esp devices
that's the other thing that pops into my head
like, in order to flash to them
Printers just work now? That used to be the most annoying one.
I haven't owned a printer in 15 years though.
yep, they just work. There's a huge driver repo that ships with windows and it goes to the web otherwise
it's pretty good at fixing network adapter issues too now
mind you, i'm not in windows 11
home or pro?
home
windows has its fair share of bullshit, so I'm not surprised
not gonna lie, it has gotten worse too
but it's not a bad os, it's just another os
but windows has always gone back and forth
I'm afraid of windows 11
still better than win 8
1 because it moves the menu bar, and 2 because it deprecates 32 bit
I remoted into a win 8 machine the other day and yelled "noooooo" from my desk
lol
the lack of 32 bit thing really kills a ton of hardware that's been in use for 30+ years
My company just started rolling out win 11 this year
and I"m resisting with the hardware I manage
yea all the os's are doign that
can't even use current linux anymore
64 bit has been out for a very long time tho
Back when I did some factory tours for memory vendors about a decade ago, they were all using Windows 95
there's definitely a line where high-tech ends and "don't freakin' touch it" begins
I think that's a combination of getting use to a system and NOT wanting to pay for updated software
automotive places are still doing that
running on ancient machines cause reality is, what they need from computers hasn't really changed lol
they just treat these systems like appliances
they have a simple app with full-screen UI and there's no real indication of what's underneath
like an ATM
until it crashes and reboots 🙂
my last job still used just plain ole unix
the networking equipment which actually sat above my work area in the back had like 4 ft of dust on it
I really thought it was going to catch fire
Oh yeah, I'm not faulting it. I just have to support hardware that only works in 32 bit because the companies went belly up years ago
i have to say the ntfy intergration is amazing
"have to" what kind of messed up logic is that? lol
aren't we in the era now where noone does anything they don't want
Have to as in, I get paid to
looks win 98ish
ignore the blatant bug with the shifted gray box
I have an old piece of sotware that lets me print out envelops that still uses that old javascript looking ui lol
I'd also suggest that nobody should be caught by surprise that 32-bit is going away. Plenty of time to plan
not if the hardware is no longer made, and it was the only company that made anything like it
Mac has made complete arch changes several times like this
Yes, but my point is, sometimes we have no choice but to support things from 80 years ago
firewire was deprecated in 2010 (windows 10), yet I have a ton of machines still on win7 to support them still
what are these machines being used for that you still have to retian support on?
In the medical industry, when things are validated, it takes a mountain to make changes. Also, if these validated process still work and still produce product, then there's no reason to change anything.
So, 30 years later, you're still maintaining these production lines...
the most richest industry to ever exists...
you just made me picture those pharmaceutical companies countries paid billions too during covid using those old ass machines lol
well, usually new lines get new hardware
we don't create new lines using old hardware, that would be crazy. So we do source out new machinery that gets us what we want. But we aren't going to upgrade old lines when it costs the same price as making a new line. The no brainer there is to have 2 lines to make twice the product
keeps me busy too, and I know way too much about every version of windows and how to get around stupid problems
I'm trying to get them to let me put linux on the lines too so IT can't put their stupid shit on it
I think its still in the A+ certification too?
pretty sure that is what most people think @clear ferry actually looks like in person
He does
Have you not seen him?
This is the thing that always humbles me as a software engineer. Sometimes I get frustrated maintaining code that is only six years old! Half of it I wrote!
well the beauty of managing old software is if you have old computers, you really don't need to manage it.
I manage a bunch of code from 08 right now, and I don't think I've made any changes to it. Just basically making it work when we replace failing hardware
I feel like 2d printers are easy, you plug them in with usb to computers until you find one that works and then never touch it again
On a related note Google AI says I need 32gb of ram to run a CUPS server, are orangepi zeros with 1.5gb of ram good enough for a single colour laser?
Resell guy wants 60$ for a new mainboard after the rj45 died
We already established that he looks like Phil Collins when he was in a sea of Phil Collins fans at a Phil Collins concert 🙂
old Phil Collins
32g for cups? You can run cups on a paperclip
You mean peter Gabriel, close but no cigar
That's what I thought but there is very little resource use estimation. My worry is when I actually use the printer I'm "power using" it sending large PDFs and I really don't want the printer being slowed down by the CUPS host. I bought it for the speed
Considering we ran print servers for hundreds of users on 2GB ram in older days I'll assume you are fine with a single user
I'd hope so because I doubt brother put a gig of ram on the printer itself haha.
Would you rather have new chairs or a new printer?
Waiting for ZigBee compatible ones
Anyone familiar with ratgdo32 or ratgdo32 disco and are happy with it?
What is the integration youre using?
i'm happy it supports dry contact control and security+ 2.0
No integration. Custom solution. Heater state with color sensor. Temperature with temp sensor attached to output copper line. Recirculation pump triggered via BT. All using esphome.
I do have temp state for every faucet in the house. So it's a closed loop system.
tomato, tomato
Why are so many people talking about Phil Collins lately? Seen it in like 3 places in the past 24 hours
Why not?
There was a kinda sad video circulating lately where he was helped into a room with his drum set, sat down and tapped on it a bit. It's quite a decline
He's been in a wheelchair for years already
Weirdly enough I've been listening a lot to genesis lately, post Phil Collins Genesis
#1284966540617449515 please
what no dire straits?
you don't want your mtv?
I listened so much to dire strait in my Youth I'm quite full, solo Knopfler on the other hand
Reminds me, I still have 8 guitars at my MILs house I need to pick up
When you say youth, is this before or after Norwegian copper days?
you've heard of the Big Bang haven't you?
genesis was kind of nice, polished pop, but my heart was in punk rock
You were there for it, weren't you?
All matter was there
Bluetooth was first
Who said anything about opinions? I just think he's old 😂
Well, no...
@forest edge we gotta celebrate your 83rd in LA!
sounds like a trap to make it my last
You're welcome
you were raised on hose water?
No water
we drank straight from the water puddles
We can tell
did ya eat the leaded paint too?
@forest edge All that puddle water, look at you now!
Asbestos for breakfast
how else are you going to become resistant to fire?
you gotta start early because it builds up over time
@forest edge I finally got around to getting in touch with Whisker support about my LR4 that doesn't consistently weigh my cats and they immediately said they'd replace the base under warranty
Just had to give them the serial number of the device that's under warranty :). They do want the old one back, so I might need to put the bad sensor in the new base and send that one back (since that's the serial number I provided)
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@forest edge just got passed middle earth 😁
you want a asbestos fork for tat?
@forest edge it looks like all the four load cells are on a single harness with a connector, so it should be easy to swap them. I just wish they would just send me a new harness and I could send the old one. And I don't see a place online to buy one
that's the way to do. and as for your second post. you "can" specifically request individual parts but you have to make that clear to them. they were going to send a whole new base for one of mine cause the motor made a weird noise and that's when I asked cause that was dumb to send a whole new base and the person tol me they woul just sen the motor if I mae that specific request
suddenly your life had improved for a short time
Oh, interesting. They said it was 'best to replace the whole base, and of course that would be under warranty' and I just let them do it
Everytime I pass middle earth I lose 18 years
I really don't get why they push that. it's cheaper for them to send the smaller parts if the customer is capable of doing it lol
I'm sure they think it's better service
as much as the units cost..
But you need to clean the unit before returning it, so there's extra time there
I roll with chopsticks! Forks?
They make them in Wisconsin, I think
stay on top of that warranty, I think you can only renew one like 2 times
Cat issues
the liner we just bought outright was 70 before taxes lol
This is strange, flight crew tells me I am not supposed to smoke even E stuff......hmmmm
I would say you need a cat but you are not home enough and I wouldn't wish you on any cat
people get offended by the water vapor
sure it still has some kind of smell to it
I promise Terea has no smell.
I wanted to say spork
well nicotine itself, by itself has an odor soo..
unless you are really only boiling water
The funny thing is that I'm pretty sure I just need a replacement plastic foot because the clips have kinda splayed out. But it looks like the sensor itself has been damaged a bit by running on it, so best to swap out the whole harness
best to swap out anything and everything while it's still under warranty
I would make shit up when warranty gets close
especially the motor
motor and those cheap ass sensor they use
sensors
They gave me no pushback at all, so I feel like they're making a good effort
yea the customer service is solid
No additional troubleshooting, but I did tell them what I did ahead of time
never once had an issue. I did have to send in a sound clip once of one of my units but they were never at any point sounding like they were going to deny me
It's funny that it was working great until I inherited a giant cat. I think he stressed the little plastic foot and caused it to bottom out 🙂
Simple fix 😁
He's just big boned
I have a cat that's 16lbs
Gen X?
gen x?
Yep
i don't get it
when do you think it will stop smoking?
I am serious
one day, the alaskan cruise port is there somewhere lol
Chicken
turn on your own news once in awhile and then say that lol
Sorry no news
Life couldn't be any better
Anyways, open invitation to middle earth with free flight. You let me know when.
@clear ferry has posted some snow pictures so Hell is starting to freeze over...
Enough with excuses! If you want experience LA QF style, all you gotta say is, yes
QF style? you mean inebriated to the point that everything is a blur?
Always a blur bruh!
isn't riding a tilt-a-whirl the same as QF style?
If you scared of flying, consider greyhound taken care of
I will say I was not fond of the prop plane I was on once lol
shit made me feel like I was in an Indiana jones movie. kept looking around for the crates of livestock
maybe if they do a big enough HA meetup and someone convinces atx to go.. that might be worth seeing lol
I always wondered what infinite eye rolling looked like
anyone in here actually get their hands on a shelly gen 4?
TBH unless the Zigbee was the defining feature for you, their buy-4-get-1-free deal recently on gen3s was pretty hard to pass up. Came out about 35% cheaper each than a gen4 for the equivalent device
the zigbee part is the part that interests me but also curious how the addon hat works with it
according to the docs the addon fits the gen 4 but says nothing about rather it works in zigbee mode etc
I am still not sold on zigbee
most of the time zigbee has been solid for me
I noticed one of my gen3s was offering up the 1.6.x firmware update last night that adds Matter support
battery life on devices tho.. so not what they claim for many of them lol
I do have tons of zigbee, just not primary devices.
with the exception of the tuya presence sensors (that I have to automate to power cycle once a week) everything that plugs in has had 0 issues
No I haven't had issues. Just that zw is my goto. Been primary for over decade.
rich man's zigbee lol
but zwave is limited on the amount of diffrent sensors you can find with it as well
And if you think the ZWave hardware selection is bad in the US, hooo boy you should see how shitty it is in other countries
Limited? WTF are you talking about?
there are A LOT of various zigbee sensors etc but zwave you are limited
they just don't exsist
Various doesn't mean production quality
I don't have any zw battery devices
show me more specific higher amp dry contact switches in zwave
can't find that either
does zwave even have a mmwave sensor yet?
it's own restrictions on tightening up it's protocol and certs for manufactures to sell chokes itself from the oddball shit you can find in zigbee format
Why on earth would you use zigbee or zw mmwave
don't get me wrong, you can find way more wifi stuff than zigbee but still
I only have zw decora motion sensors. All else is esphome mmwave
why not? the tuya things I have work well with the one excpetion of having to power cycle them lol
All zigbee is just back for zw and wifi
no offense to apollo but even thier device is bulky once you factor in the wart needed to power it compared to like the cheaper zigbee ones
Appolo?
that esp
I had found some weird zigbee sensors while looking around for stuff.. maybe not stuff I would want but i'm sure someone had to think of a need for it to exsist
and zwave just dosen't do that
wifi will do that
but not zwave
Meh
my current issue is I need a 12v dry multiple dry contact zigbee device
not had a whole lot of luck finding that
International or domestic flight?
Domestic
Boring
wut
Aslong they dont mention sacha
Is this your kink?

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Hi all. Brand new here. Just installed. Won't accept url or IP address. Says "waiting for Supervisor to startup". Probably been asked a million times so apologies. What do I need to do. 🤞🏻

open a thread in #1284966540617449515
include info on your setup and installation type
it's been fun extending the integration for Litter Robots
there's not been much support for the LitterHopper attachment and it's nice to see one of contributions (my first HA one ever!) land in 2025.5.5
I am bemused that I've spent so much time thinking about kitty litter 
yeah first contribution feels great. I had my first core contribution in 2025.5 too 🙂
bugfix in automations
He corrected the typo that was bugging him for the last 7 years 😋
the Oxford comma in comments are important!
that reminds me of the guy that got a job, fixed a bug and quit.
lol, almost i reported this random bug months ago. and it took me a while to fix it myself 😛
😄
♪ 99 little bugs in the code, 99 little bugs. you take one down, patch it around. 127 little bugs in the code. 🎵 🎶
hmm...
on unrelated note:
i'm a bit confused... since I've stopped using NodeRed (after the breaking changes update), i can't figure out how to send some commands to zigbee devices.
i know it might sound silly but i have no idea how to do a dimmer with a hold button lol
i think i might have resigned from using NR a bit prematurely perhaps.
for something like that you would need to start a thread in #1284980040940912641. i am sure someone has done it.
i have never used NR. never had an issue i couldnt solve with stock automation engine
yea, I had no luck with creating threads in any of the sections.
is it just me or does that look like a glorified web forum, rather than chat for you guys?
i'm kinda spoiled by old days and IRC.
with the size of the server its the only way to handle support stuff
stuff would get lost otherwise
it got lost anyway
i had to literaly do a search of all my posts to find it, and still no reply from anyone 😦
you win some you lose some
If anyone feel like discussing it, i started a thread https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1370767179158392922
but not gonna lie, when i created an automation that i thought would increase brightness continuously while i hold the button and it only increased the brightness level by 1 point, I audibly sighed.
Anyone able to suggest a zigbee soil moisture sensor? or a reviewer that covers them ( non tuya etc )
#1284966353798697001 with the "Recommendation" tag might be able to help
A 677 Gig ha backups there is my storage going
what the hell do you have on your HA instance?
Thanks @iron granite wasnt sure if that # was just core hardware
his NAS lol
A remote backup system running backups for more than a year periode
Nothing sitting in the park cant fix
rm -Rf / will clear up space quickly
It's all their AI-created scripts
Single socks and lint
So that's where my socks have been going
You forgot the star symbol. Otherwise it will complain about no-preserve-root flag missing
echo '' > /dev/sd# works faster
anyone have issues with 2025.5.0/1
my upgrade is failing and keeps rolling back
Why not just dd /dev/zero /dev/sd#
got my zigbee dimmer setup re-built 😁
thanks @thorny scarab for the sollution 🙂
turns out it was dumb-easy.
in automation i just had to select mqtt publish and everything after that was smooth sailing
now all that's left is to duplicate it for all the other lights in the house lol
although I did notice the bug where if brightness is 1 the bulb gets confused if it's on or off is still there 😅
Set minimum brightness to 2 and you are golden
Hooray, the LCARS theme got an update that fixes the issues from the new HA update
you mean like in the device definition or what?
I was just jesting, but it may be a good solution
This is the shitposting channel after all
lol
i'll live with it for now.
but I have a feeling that NodeRed might have been a bit more responsive
no sure tho.
might do some experimentation later when i'm bored
but i'll have to come up with a good experiment to actually test responsiveness.
i know!
ESP32 light and switch and time it on the ESP32
😄
I am always pleased with zigbee response at my house anyway 🙂
Hate it when this happens
It's the first step toward the first raccoon pope
That would be a cardinal mistake
What do you call a moose with no name?
|| anonymoose ||
What do you call it when you only have 3/4 of your roof?
|| oof ||
I have 7 lights in a line in our hallway in a Zigbee group, and the responsiveness is insane. They turn on and off at the same time, and it's so fast after pressing the remote button that it seems like they're dumb lights on a physical switch
that was a mossetake
you all go through the trouble of actually binding stuff with zigbee?
It is great stuff
I'm in a pretty noisy 2.4 GHz environment too
Not binding; Zigbee groups
@iron granite because it is promoting?
Burned by sonoff I assume
Aha
No. That guy is a paramedic/EMT and making videos about things you shouldn't get too intimate with. 
i need a zigbee temprature with probe on extension to replace my attic temp sensor that died
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well the display isn't in the attic, just the probe on a wire
These are all in your basement right?
Only 4, the rest are in my office
a great i can send sms using the AI now. for example when some one calls me and im busy and sascha picks up. i can say send a message to X i call you back later.
Now going to make a script that tells it out loud on the phone when the phone is still connected
It spans 2/3 the length of our apartment lol

7 recessed lights. Kind of overkill admittedly

when you reach my age you will fully appreciate "overkill" on lights...
why are those curtains not automated?
This is definitely… a choice 😆
Omg
Biblically accurate boob lighting
Is there inaccurate biblocal boob lighting?
yes

Everything else, of course
recursion is hell.
i'm looking for reticle LEDs for my ASG red-dot sights and I found this page: https://specs.marktechopto.com/pdf/products/datasheet/MTSP-1334.pdf
but forget that you can buy it anywhere other than from them directly 😓
What BT dongles is everyone using ? I woke up to mine dead this morning … wondering about this one - TP-Link USB Bluetooth Adapter for PC, Bluetooth 5.3 Long Range Receiver, Plug and Play, Adjustable Antenna.. (UB500 Plus)
can't really say I'm using a BT dongle anymore. all my BT on the laptop, desktop and HA Pi are built in 😛
what's the dongle for?
on unrelated note...
TIL: automation.turn_on sees the past. LOL 🤣
HA? 😆 I have a bunch of BT stuff (old Govee thermometers, wave radon etc ) that connect through it
i was disabling the automation, doing an action that is the trigger and re-enabling it. the trigger still fired 🤦
Not looking for support i am browsing Amazon and wondering what is everyone using … might be easier to just ignore me 🙂
still the right place, hardware with the recommendation tag
I feel like a #general-discussion channel could help, instead of everyone constantly redirecting everyone to specific... I don't even know what to call those on discord... forum sections?
everything has its place inside those categorized forums
that way nothing gets lost or spammed away and if you give it a proper title you can expect it to findable
@solar zealot please don't take it the wrong way, I just think some of us prefer a less strict place for discussion. sometimes a question is so simple it does not require a whole forum post. sometimes discussions change the subject organically, from one question to another, with a stupid meme in between 😛
I personally feel very confined on this discord server. and i'm not of the digitally claustrophobic type 😛
i understand you but the way it is now is more helpful to people searching for answers and more precise for those trying to give them
I do realize it's because I'm used to more relaxed servers.
its kinda a trust the process thing ^^
it would make more sense if it was searchable from google. otherwise people come to discord to chat, not post a formu thread
thats what the real forum is about https://community.home-assistant.io/
that's what i mean. the way we're expected to interact with this discord server kinda feels like https://community.home-assistant.io/ with extra steps
homeassistant people are present on many platforms which isnt limited to this space
its at a scale where organization is key
before it was many people shouting into the void of many channels and that got only few somewhere
hmm...
i sometimes like to shout into some void 😅
you do you. it's just how i feel.
thats a valid feeling
some of us are just not accustomed to this form of discord server.
it is here only for a couple months, a process to trust which is still activelyish being worked on ^^
the most confusing thing is there's nothing like a #general-discussion channel where asking support questions is NOT frowned uppon.
it's normal that people joining a server will flock to some sort of a main channel
in this case the #the-water-cooler looks like one.
i myself tried to ask here at first
only to see the topic lol
its intentionally not named general ;)
the channel to ask for support is part of the #find-support one
if i recall it would be explained during onboarding for new members
the biggest and most often lie in the world is "yes, i have read and understood the terms and conditions" 🤣
#find-support is not interactive.
it is if you check the first message
tho the thread https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284976732428046461 is
yes
but it's not straight forward nor instantly obvious.
"wall of text? wrong place, abort! abort!"
oh well. never mind that. it is what it is. i'll learn to live with it i guess.
it would have been explained in the onboarding ^^
what will bug me tho is where the hell can i buy single red-dot reticle LEDs?
likely your electronic parts supplier
yea, you'd think that 😆
could mark it with a sharpy 
turns out this https://specs.marktechopto.com/pdf/products/datasheet/MTSP-1334.pdf
is waaaay to niche to sell in retail. 😛
lol, i can CNC it, even better
but i'm not going to build an LED lol
i have my red-dot sights for my ASG with a single dot and I want to "upgrade" it 😛
but normal LEDs won't cut it cause the size of the light source is super minuscule!
the whole package is 3mm x 4mm, so imagine the size of the LEDs
an 0402 should be a fit then
lol
just good luck not breathing them by accident
yea, if you want a huge blob of light in your sights 😄
rgb for more accuracy
i know you're joking but do you actualy realize how small the reticle is?
the whole thing optically is smaller than the smallest comercially available in retail SMD LED package
and the package just glows as a one huge blob of light
yea, the circle is substantial, but the light emiting segments it consists of are still smaller than anything available.
i would imagine the real way would be to use optical fibers to connect the thing to the light source
if even needed
if one was to manufcature it, it would be simpler to use a mask on the die.
i'm not gonna build one.
it's not possible, even with all my fancy tools.
i would just buy it, even if not cheap. but where?
im not sure a mask would help a lot, the actual led on the package is quite some smaller
the thing i posted the PDF of is an IC die with several LEDs
im actually surprised this is done by putting the pattern into the chip and not into the glass
how else would the thing appear in optics
yea
i would have thought this pattern to be a feature of the lense instead of the source
learned something new ^^
it's a transparent mirror that superimposes the shape of the LED onto what you're looking at
it's really that simple.
anything you put on the glass, you lose the colimator effect.
the whole trick of red-dot sights is the dot (mostly) stays on target when your head moves a little
what you're thinking is like a scope sights.
then yes, the pattern IS on the glass
because the POV does not change that much with a scope.
yea that makes sense
not the case with red-dot sights as you're looking at them from an arms lenght
it's basicaly the same technology as fighters HUD.
the HUD stays in the relatively same place in your view even when you move your head side to side.
cheap red-dot sights have single mirror. more expensive ones have many internal mirrors before it's send towards the eye, improving the targeting acuracy.
technically the longer the distance between the LED and the final mirror the less the dot deviates off-target when you change your POV relative to the gun.
i suppose those are battery powered?
Yup
the dangling part is the LED lol
but mine is of the ultra cheap variety 😅
which also makes it super light
one lense, all aluminium construction.
i'm using it on a blow-back ASG
yeah, airsoft gun.
the "dot" appears larger on camera than in reality.
it's a laser LED so it kinda screws with the camera sensor.
this cheap red-dot sights is adequate for my ASG, it's more accurate than the gun itself 🤣
plastic BBs aren't really known for their precise flight path lol
but a circle and a cross reticle would be cool.
more stuff in view helps finding the middle.
I live in Poland. We don't need real guns much. 😛
while ASG is fun.
anything cheese needs protection from ME!
hehehe
hehehe. found a replacement diode module!
it's more expensive than the whole red-dot sights I bought 🤣
😮 deepseek surgests me to make a interface for sascha to make calls to order a pizza
that sounds doable
what's a sascha?
my phone assistant
mhm
i should probably get to finishing the voice command thingy on my HA
voice is great. I dont know how the current default state is I went beserk with self made (AI) scripts
Basic
i mean, i don't know what people use, i just googled some stuff and installed some addons but never finished configuring them
Whisper and Piper is what I installed. will have to get back to it and finish configuring it some day.
got distracted by ESP32 experiments and Z2M breaking changes lol
It lacks the usual talking comfort as sentences are quite rough to detect
1st thing i did was make room prefic commands. music on/off play music <artist> fan on off. and all happens in the room with the voice assistant
it?
the things you need to say for it to detect what you want to do is quite specific
like it's more designed for matching accuracy than for actual language
not if you use AI. but for the liniar coded assistant that is true.
it?
the voice assistant
yeach, but which one? 😄
The add-ons just create text from your voice and voice from a text
tts ident processiging
Internally it's some simplified regex to match and parse data out of them
I use the atom echo with very high accuracy.
yea, and i'm fine with that. i don't expect chat GPT quality of interaction locally 😄
but i use my own simplfied scripts. not turn on the ventilator in the living room.
It can be a bit rough if you don't just want to talk to it in commands
google AI only costs 40 cents a month or something. is even a free option
also, what's with the http://home-assistant.local:8123/developer-tools/assist
But to get more lenient matching comes with it potentially triggering on sentences no one would ask
That's for debugging
Kinda tells you what it would do with the thing you put in
the sentence template is the secret sauce
so there's something built-in that i can feed the voice-to-text to out of the box?
The assistant yes
If you want local voice to work proper you need a i3 for english or a i5 rizen5 for other languages.
for local AI you really need to get some serious pc power with video card
and then it isnt as fast as the nabu casa cloud service
If you consider doing some AI stuff on there, consider hand picking exposed entities
Tho really it shouldn't be needed for many things
You can just write appropriately matching sentence templates
i don't think i'll be doing any AI on a raspberry Pi any time soon 😅

i don't even know if it can handle the voice to text part
but it costs me nothing but some time to play with it.
and i don't mind setting up predetermined commands
like "lights off!"
the sentence template stuff can be used through automations to do custom stuff
or "shades! god damn it! the sun is in my eyes again!!!"
It's easy to use even tho getting all options to spell stuff together is a bit tedious
Hi o/ I just joined. Joined hassio community forums about a week or so ago and discord just now 🙂
id wish there were a generator for those patterns where you'd just put in the sentences
very handy if you use a pi with low power because you can include frequent made spelling errors with some nice syntax.
welcome. How you like your new ever lasting hobbie.
I can't stop XD. I have gone over the edge even going so far as extending hassio via addons I've developed (and share on GitHub if they're not junk)
doesn't ring a bell.
ah!
I'm addicted to sleeping, good food and hanging out with friends
mmmmm food
you need profesional help, mate.
I have.
I wax and wane. (social or not; coding or not)
im schizoaffective I need (they want) regular reality checkups.
i know what some of those words mean.
and i'm still taking your food XD
That hurts. (but true 😦 good pun)
you can better make your own. prolly find a bread bake machine you can integrate with home assistant
YEs there is also a RFC to transmit ip over pidgions. inmplentation is the key
Just learned https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2549
Is there any obvious security risk in having a USB Zigbee repeater outside of my house? Could physical access to it be used to compromise my zigbee network?
you need to pair it right?
I assume so (not really a zigbee expert)
I have a contact sensor on a gate and it can't hold a connection even to a wired device on the other side of the same wall. I figure I'll try putting a wired repeater in my outdoor socket (directly outside an indoor socket), and use the two adjacent sockets to try to push the signal through the wall
Blue = plug sockets (indoor and outdoor), green = contact sensor
I figure hopefully the two sockets are close enough that the signal can get through the wall and bridge the gap
(If anyone replies to that please tag me, gonna head to bed so I might not see it otherwise)
Please post in #1284966617670881350 with the Zigbee tag
There's no support here
@lunar remnant
So this is just a really dumb quick question, basically had a royal fuck up with my hyper v HAOS install, moved over to unraid in a box, restored from backup and I just got up and running, but lost all my tasmota historical data.... Does the backup not back this stuff up?
Haven't nuked the hyper v stuff but it's still pretty broken so might be able to find out how to exfil it
I basically only set up home assistant to log power use from tasmota outlets so this pretty not great
uhg, seems like it's intentional. I thought maybe I missed an option or something to restore that data.... fuck https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/59933
NO support here. Try asking in #1284966582375813201
Obligatory "Docker > HAOS" comment.
AEUHHH????
I saw this on YouTube and loved it, but the only reupload I saw was in 240p. I crawled Wayback Machine and managed to screen record the original version from before it was taken down.
I obviously own nothing.
#gaming #doom #timallen
Absolutely amazing
Just checking... clicking on this link brings me to my FB feed and not the post in the HA group. Did I somehow get blocked?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/HomeAssistant/posts/3967805306824143/
See posts, photos and more on Facebook.
Not using the music assistant addon?
What is your FB profile?
😮 i can put my public transport info into my llm
daft wakes up every day and finds another thing he can push through an llm 
Why use the addon when you can just use the container?
Why put a lock on a door.

the addons can use home assistant authentication somewith a docker container cant.
When will the server tag of HA exist?
Then you can just spin up authentik on the side, or anything similar
Whenever Discord decides to roll it out to all or to include this one.
Atx probably doesn't use locks on his doors
i saw the notification here that it is avaible
But then the docker container have to be made for authentik if im right.
the music assistant docker container has no lock
atleast that is the developers statement
You can have the externally accessible interface behind an auth (eg authentik/etc whatever you want to chuck it via your reverse proxy with)
But have HA communicate over the internal docker network without auth
keycloak 
but sadly HA can't properly integrate with OIDC or SAML
You can make it work with ldap though which works for now
yea. It's a crutch, but a working one
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See posts, photos and more on Facebook.
tried some linux gaming today. Apparently steam nowadays ships with proton built in, everything 'just worked' without setting up anything 😂
Year of the Linux desktop may be this side of 2050 after all
Do you mind, if I DM you?
Cool isnt it. And prolly runs better than windows
That'd be perfectly fine
But I've been full time on Linux desktop for 8 years already
With Pewds shilling the Arch experience
it is neigh
Don't tell Sonoma lol
Arch users about to become 100x more insufferable
Hi everyone. Is there a place for open discussion about the Frigate card integration, rather than the #1284966582375813201 channel which seems to be more of a Q&A format? I'd just like to find out if I'm doing something wrong or if I'm experiencing an actual bug.
k3s 
For cards the channel #1284965988642590891 would be the right place.
Thank you!
this
In our backend it doesn't show any option to enable that, yet. 
Hlo i am new so i dont know where to ask for help . so sorry if it is not right chat.
#1284966540617449515 would be the right channel. And they likely need a bit more context.
Please do not cross-post.
There’s no support here - only chill. Come in, grab a drink, chat with your fellow community members! This is a space to talk to other smart home enthusiasts. If you’re looking for support and unsure where to go, check out https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284968640189304913 - it should help you find where you are going. No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.
Lies mental support is allowed in this channel
if you don't rack them properly you should consider therapy, yes
I should stay silent running dualboot (windows only for house mates) since 2005
Promising
i would say that if a place doesn't accept online orders than the chances of of them accepting a robo call order are alot lower than those that do accept online orders. but if they accept online orders then whats the point in robo call ordering in thee first place.
This guys channel is the best. Random big engineering projects taken to the max
Are all online orders accessible for all kind of disabilities.
Do you have to account for all kinds of disabilities?
Sorry?
just not sure if its easier to make a bot that can order online vs a bot that can order on the phone
How many home assistant integrations are there to proof your point?
huh?
If it was so easy. There would be some integration right
Meaning, that it isn't necessary to solve all disabilities in a personal project. In that case solving the problems of own disabilities would suffice.
i am not sure i want to use HA to automate ordering of food 😛
yeah it's amazing how much this guy knows about everything. He could learn some stuff on the software side though 😛
trigger: blood sugar dropping
action: order food calculated to best solve the issue
trigger: get out of bed
condition: nothing in fridge
action: order breakfast
Please don't become unconscious before the food arrives and you have paid for it.



