#the-water-cooler

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unborn merlin
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updated backup system in general is so yeah 😄

regal schooner
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what channel should i ask for advice/ideas?

static schooner
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About what?

regal schooner
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I want to install an exhaust fan in my bathroom. Doesn't necessarily have to be smart, but if that's possible sure i'm open to it

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Currently it's a hole that has a square frame screwed in. there are 2 outlets abt 5 feet away, under the mirror which is about 30 inches from the ground

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my uninformed brain is thinking I unscrew this plate, install some sort of fan, wire the cable from the ceiling to the wall, and plug it in to a power strip/extension cord that routes from the outlet to above the mirror

static schooner
regal schooner
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ok cool I'll head over there. thank you

bright trench
thorny drift
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The second this changed over, I too don’t come here anymore. It felt more personal and part of a community with the open chat, throw a question up, join a convo, etc. It’s just not the same.

solar zealot
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Good

deft pewter
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The metrics show that it's better. More people find a resolution.

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No point crying about it. What's done is done and it won't be reverted.

primal laurel
clear ferry
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Metric me like one of your french girls

primal laurel
deft pewter
iron granite
primal laurel
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it is mostly the same people solving problems for others

iron granite
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But that's not really been different before.

deft pewter
primal laurel
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it's the ad-hoc discussions that have dissapeared, everything else is more or less the same

deft pewter
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Oh, I wish they'd disappeared. People still shit this channel up with them all the time.

primal laurel
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they are here because the old channels are closed

iron granite
normal mist
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It's the simple things that can make the other half happy

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clear ferry
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is the warning because it is too cold or too hot ? 🤔

normal mist
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oh just an example

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if it goes above -17 it alerts

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kinda neat seeing the compressor come on to maintain coldness

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run the power graph next to it and you will see power spikes at the same time as the temp drops 🙂

crisp oriole
fathom sparrow
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My favorite is when people come in here to say they don't engage here often because of the changes but spend tons of time engaging (during their complaint)

primal laurel
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people who care apparently

deft pewter
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Love seeing Frigate see things in clouds too. AI is alive!

primal laurel
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lol, looks like a horse

crisp oriole
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Idefix

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Someone saw the new asterix & obelix serie?

fathom sparrow
fathom sparrow
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leslfix and peroeorslix

crisp oriole
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Why are there no good asterix and obelix gifs.

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I want flying romans

fathom sparrow
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lol, I never heard of them before your question

crisp oriole
fathom sparrow
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no idea what that says

crisp oriole
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Im not fat

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I guess

fathom sparrow
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he do be fat tho

crisp oriole
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Anyway netflix asterisk & obelix

deft pewter
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I'd rather have a few (sometimes funny) false positives than any false negatives.

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Huh. Weird. I've not noticed it happen.

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I'm using Reolink (4k, even though people claim it doesn't work with Frigate) and a Coral USB and things are working swimmingly.

tidal bronze
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Never seen this happen 😳

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Similar to my setup.

primal laurel
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Could be something related to the video properties of camera. Frigate models are not trained on all camera configurations

tidal bronze
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Load issues?

clear ferry
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looks very much like K9 tbh

fathom sparrow
deft pewter
primal laurel
iron granite
fathom sparrow
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Donno, haven't checked. But discord has an API, so I'd wager it's relatively easy (for us) to get metrics

primal laurel
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I don't think it's used much, I just found out it exists 😂

fathom sparrow
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well, if I (a serial non-reader) found it, then anyone should be able to find it

unborn merlin
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using default model, or trained model?

primal laurel
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if you scroll through the forums you can see it's not really used much

deft pewter
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Then I guess we can blame the users instead of the platform

unborn merlin
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🤷‍♂️ try the trained models sometime maybe

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which is to say..

"Surprise, if you put money into something it tends to be better?"

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yearly.

once a year.. and then you keep the model indefinitely if you save it. 😉

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unless they decide the product is bunk and decide to stop updating it.. 🤷‍♂️

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also because you aren't made of money*?

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but yeah.. trained models off frigate are much better on false positives.

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c'mon man up and get the real camera.. /s

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"Exceptional image quality"

I certainly fucking hope so when you slap an entire DSLR sensor in a security camera..

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tehir camera sa re nice yes..

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but holy fuck are they expensive.

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also I despise that they made another fucking spec for smart sensors.

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matter motherfuckers, do you speak it

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unifi does some stuff good.. but also just.. does some weird shit sometimes for no reason..

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unborn merlin
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Shelly gen 4 is basically the gold standard OEMs should be aiming for.

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single devices. Wi-Fi, Zigbee, Matter, Bluetooth.

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thought they called it "long range bluetooth"

Which is.. a fucking meaningless thing to say.

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because its using a newer ESP32 chipset if I had to guess.

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which comes with all of those.

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unborn merlin
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yep.. not horrible pricing (then again, tariff idiocy..) not forcing their cloud stuff.. having default firmware that doesn't require flashing it to esphome..

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also having UL listed stuff is also nice.

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their stuff is US stuff though right?

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oh for usb stuff i dont care but for outlets/sockets its pretty important 😛

left adder
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I’ve never experienced such pain in my life holy.. setting up google nest is HELL 😭

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Why is there a million steps

desert cave
cunning agate
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Hey, quick question, does anyone know why this isn't working? NEst Hub is staying silent. Not even connecting doing the "cast" jingle.

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But this IS working?

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iron granite
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Quick answer: seems to be something for the support channels.

unborn merlin
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I really want to see some mmwave sensor light switches that aren't like 80 goddamn dollars..

cunning agate
silent doveBOT
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The topic of this channel is:

There’s no support here - only chill. Come in, grab a drink, chat with your fellow community members! This is a space to talk to other smart home enthusiasts. If you’re looking for support and unsure where to go, check out https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284968640189304913 - it should help you find where you are going. No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

unborn merlin
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... also true I spose

iron granite
cunning agate
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Alright, Alright, sowwy! Going to support now 🙂

unborn merlin
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been tinkering with using.. old phone line boxes on walls for mmwave sensors actually.. attaching sensors to the back of a blank wallplate and having a screw to tilt the sensor best and etc

fathom sparrow
unborn merlin
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then just fire 24VDC over the phone wires and use step-down power.

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because who actually uses the wires in their boxes for phones anymore? 😄

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but tinkering with shoving multiple sensors on an ESP in a blank wallplate..

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PIR+mmwave+temp/humidity maybe.. etc

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good way to have a sensor more.. centralized to a room rather than relying on whatever direction a light switch faces

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I mean.. its gonna be attached to an ESP32 as well.. so it can also do BLE tracking?

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in my case of reusing phone wires in walls for power and using the blank-ish wallplate.. doesnt have to be entirely completely hidden

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yeah.. so many things in retrospect..

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low voltage wires and hidden boxes in walls..

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I also do wonder if there's any.. semi easy way to use multiple mmwave sensors together to make a map.

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i meant esphome ones mostly.. because aqara ones are.. yikes price? 😛

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RD03/LD2450 stuff

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also expensive ish.. 😛

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and tbh I can probably copy their esphome files for the most part/cut it down to make my thing..

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expensive for a reason obviously

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custom pcbs dont make themselves and all

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lol, already did that

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😛

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tho its imperfect.. I need to fix the sonar sensors that detect the door position

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(the top of the door has that.. protrusion to go into another door I assume and it causees the sonar sensors not to read properly)

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then uses tiny SSR's to tap into the existing opener buttons on each door area

weak musk
desert cave
primal laurel
iron granite
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I use it with HA directly. Don't have any other Ring stuff.

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I usually arm via the keypad and disarm with a NFC tag reader.

solar zealot
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Jorg actually hands guns to the keypad

last cedar
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I have desfire rolling encryption tags and 6 digit codes to arm/ disarm and to gain entry (doors locked 24/7)

solar zealot
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it enabled the boomba

last cedar
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No one is getting my doormats

iron granite
solar zealot
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And none of those sea bass!

normal wedge
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I have a quick question that doesn't validate a completly new topic. But am I right in understanding that when you run HAOS in a Proxmox VM, it fills up (almost) all the available memory as cache. ie, It has 8GB in the VM, uses 7.5GB, but in HA it shows it's actually using 1.2GB?

solar zealot
normal wedge
last cedar
iron granite
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Those pesty hoarders.

last cedar
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Is that what is refered to as thin and thick provisioning?

solar zealot
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A raccoon eating many sausages is thick provisioned

iron granite
last cedar
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Can confirm

normal wedge
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It can use it all if it wants 😄 It has 128GB in the server. But I just don't want to allocate more then it needs. if 4GB is enuf, it's enuf

solar zealot
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They are racoon shaped

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Don't shame them for being hungry

clear ferry
last cedar
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I prefer to say perfectly formed, but yes

solar zealot
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They make better hats

clear ferry
last cedar
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Your toilet has more than 128GB right?

iron granite
clear ferry
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Well 128G is a laptop these days

last cedar
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Lol not if you are buying anything affordable, they still nyckel and dime with 8GB

primal laurel
last cedar
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Some crazy sob did that

clear ferry
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I've had 64G since 2015 🤔

normal wedge
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haha, the funny thing is that that site still exists, downloadmoreram

last cedar
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Mounted a cloud storage as ram

clear ferry
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LOL

last cedar
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That is something atx would have done

clear ferry
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Malicious compliance

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Sounds like me

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Thankfully not

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But at least I'm not on your shores either

primal laurel
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Asked for a good laptop. Got a laptop with touch screen

last cedar
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Let me just move my finger to show you what I mean....

unborn merlin
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its also half useful because some of the sensors it provides just dont fucking work because schlage apparently just elected not to.

solar zealot
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It be like that sometimes

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You cant just expect things to work

fathom sparrow
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that's smart home devices for ya

desert cave
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yeah that doesn't seem to be a z-wave exclusive problem :P

forest edge
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what do you need besides locked, unlocked?

fathom sparrow
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unless there's a keypad, nothing else is needed aside from battery level

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and even then, battery level is typically bullshit

solar zealot
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battery level is binary

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Yes and unavailable (last update 4 weeks ago)

static schooner
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Some have 'jammed', but that's just a primary state

unborn merlin
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door open/close status would be nice.. and I dont doubt that its entirely providable..

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(my one is not a deadbolt its on the handle)

last cedar
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My lock has a microswitch in the door handle, and a seperate bolt with a microswitch to indicate when it is closed

static schooner
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Velociraptor detected

last cedar
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But it is not home automation stuff, it is a proper lock

unborn merlin
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i mean.. the handle is disconnected from anything when its not unlocked so 😛

last cedar
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One handle is mechanical and the outside has a solenoid which jumps out when you give it (or remove) power

fathom sparrow
unborn merlin
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its a solenoid yes.. but uses a clever latching mechanism with a spring.

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so it can hold in either state without taking more battery power

last cedar
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Beyond the realms of batteries 🙂

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Did a power requirement calculation today for the hospital, we have 2 main boards running about 30 doors.

Needs 73Ah of batteries to run those 2 boards for 6 hours 🤣

static schooner
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Self opening doors?

last cedar
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We have 67 of those boards

unborn merlin
static schooner
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Like sliding or those weird batwing doors?

last cedar
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Those are on the buildings UPS

static schooner
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So locks then?

last cedar
static schooner
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Just curious what takes all that power

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My locks run on 4 AA batteries for like a year

last cedar
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The locks your are talking about, they run 300mA each for strike plate locks, 30 of those all at the same time are 10A. So 60Ah. Locks pull most of all

static schooner
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Mine are deadbolts and they do struggle sometimes

unborn merlin
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i mean mine does have a battery meter..

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but doesn't work worth a damn with rechargables.

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which bugs me.

static schooner
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True

unborn merlin
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am tempted to get some of that... thin wall-adhesive-wire stuff and use it to route an external battery pack to it

static schooner
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nope, not opening, just not feeling it today..

unborn merlin
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yeah but it bugs me to keep making e-waste

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so probably gonna see about.. doing some sort of remote pack setup or something

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and/or oh my fucking god..

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can we please have an emergency power plug on the front of the lock?

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come the fuck on..

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all of them should.

static schooner
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I get sick of rechargeable starting with struggling when fully charged

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The voltage level really makes a difference

unborn merlin
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just get a ratgdo sir

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🤣

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its probably because you didn't obey big go-fuck-yourself-consumer-garage door opener companies

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and pay them for the privilege of using their horse shit

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... sounds like what I said yes.

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😛

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i bet they sell some bullshit that requires their app for it

solar zealot
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The clapper

last cedar
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@static schooner I only use the same tech at home as it is what I use at work, I wouldn't use the same stuff if I didn't

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There are far more elegent and HA friendly things 🙂

solar zealot
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You use raccoons at work?

last cedar
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Of course

solar zealot
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They absolutely drive the forklyft

last cedar
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You would be surprised what a group of raccoons can achieve with enough grapes

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Forklift usually needs 3 raccoons

solar zealot
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I heard he likes grape products

last cedar
solar zealot
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They best all be having special hats

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You should see some of those drinks

static schooner
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Is there a standard conversion factor for raccoon power?

solar zealot
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Probably in washing machines

static schooner
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Raccoons are powerful creatures

iron granite
solar zealot
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They don't necessarily lead by force but by crowd control

unborn merlin
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what about speed as a function of X fennec foxes?

solar zealot
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They are all ears

static schooner
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Just watch them try to bridge a short at a power station

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That's his origin story

clear ferry
primal laurel
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I really dont get what this is supposed to be

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is this a house? with event rooms?

clear ferry
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So you can invite all 42 of your friends to a dinner party

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Then go sleeping in the house inside the house

primal laurel
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I swear I've visited stuff like this for family events. Usually included some kind of cheap buffet

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great times

fathom sparrow
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The rest is just weird

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but the dining room is the funniest IMO

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"here's a comically large table"

iron granite
clear ferry
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I'm about five tom cruise

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Or twice the American average then I guess

versed dragon
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Anyone knows if you can detect if the/your car is moving ?

clear ferry
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Sure you can

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I recommend eyes

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Or hands

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That also works

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Try not to use body

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Bad idea

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Probably detect movement

versed dragon
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I have a nodered flow that detects if I leave my home zone , and checks if my garage door is open. I would like to have a extra check that detects if the car is moving before I close the door

clear ferry
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That kind of granularity and precision might not work out unless you are using realtime lidar / radar

versed dragon
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I checked the direction of travel sensor but that is too slow

clear ferry
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You want to do something else

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I'd say camera is the most efficient option

versed dragon
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It would indeed be better if I cross a laser point while driving out and with several other conditions to close the door

clear ferry
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With object detection

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Or a wifi device in the car, if wifi is not connected, car has left

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Or even btle

tacit smelt
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Hello. is their some sort of card or thing i can use kinda like the scheduler-card but which also allows setting a few variables? Like duration and in my case kw then a trigger

clear ferry
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I just integrated my garage door with HA and use Android auto to control it from the dash pepe_yikes

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But then again, I haven't parked IN my garage in at least 6 years

primal laurel
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because your car is too big?

clear ferry
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No, because I have eberspacher, can't be bothered, car heats up and snow is melted before I drive away

versed dragon
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No I have this,

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But I was thinking to make it a bit more intelligent, the delay keeps the door open too long

clear ferry
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Can use my garage for more important stuff like servers and music studio pepekek

versed dragon
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It would be best indeed if I cross a laser beam

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I looked at the companion app, it has a sensor: car speed, but that does not seem to work

primal laurel
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probably needs android auto

versed dragon
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I do have android auto

primal laurel
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may have to enable it. Most sensors are disabled by default

last cedar
solar zealot
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It's like the borderlands place but for raccoons

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(They have slot machines and loot boxes)

forest edge
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just had google fiber installed at my moms place

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so dumb thier phone modem is seperate from the main one

last cedar
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Look what my non-raccoon colleages did

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forest edge
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lots of people

last cedar
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Absolute animals

static schooner
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Raccoons, I bet. They like to chew the wires

forest edge
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ironacly it seems people with cell phones get more of those than landlines these days lol

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especially if you are an iphone user

primal laurel
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there have been so many leaks that by now if you ever did anything online your number will be in some scammers database

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Wow 14

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had this yesterday

primal laurel
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I wonder why you have so many. I get maybe 2 a week

scenic radish
primal laurel
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damn. TIMe to change your name

forest edge
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I get like 0 on my cell

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had the same number for eons

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google is awesome at blocking them if that's what is happening

primal laurel
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they know you have no money

forest edge
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it will be another 5 or so years before release tho

clear ferry
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I don't think I've had 14 calls the last 3 months in total

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Let alone answered more than 5 of them, and none of them were spam

forest edge
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being a hermit does not count

clear ferry
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Only people who call me are colleagues from abroad anyway, then I tell them to call me on teams

forest edge
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yea thats bad lol

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maybe you should look into a home phone instead

clear ferry
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I've had a steady decline in actual phone calls since the mid 00s tbh, landline was cancelled in 2011

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And we only got 6 calls a year on that one

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Wife kept it around out of old habit

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My last landline was 2002

forest edge
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they offering 8gig here

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not sure how many people would actually take that plan

clear ferry
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I'm waiting for the 10gb plan to become available here

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A new framework will introduce requirements for heat pumps to be sold smart-ready - UK government

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that phrasing makes me nervous

clear ferry
deft pewter
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Except they usually use Zigbee shrugR

clear ferry
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They do?

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I've never seen a heat pump with zigbee

forest edge
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are poe switch auto detecting rather something needs power or not these days?

iron granite
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Or Modbus

deft pewter
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UK smart meters and things? Yup

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They don't have WiFi hubs, that's for sure.

clear ferry
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it gets worse. the full regs are not out yet but its going to include various other things. ev-chargers/battery-storage..... and then later with the "informed consent" of the household appliances like fridges/washing-machines etc...

forest edge
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so if you plug something into a poe port that doesn't use poe it won't fry it instantly?

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gonna be more first poe switch

deft pewter
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it detects capacatence of between wires to see if it should send base power which is enough for handshake and it to ask for the correct power

forest edge
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looking at this thing since tplink seems to still get good reviews for switches

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at least i think its capacatence

ocean oar
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Resistance

forest edge
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no idea what poe auto recovery is tho

ocean oar
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For the initial detection

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forest edge
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oh interesting

fallow galleon
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I have this doorbell. It just covers face when people are up in front of the door.
However, sometimes packages are being put right at the bottom outside of frame.
How can I fix this situation?

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fallow galleon
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Where tho

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# forest edge oh interesting

yeah poe has some really clever stuff. although how much you trust it to detect a non-responding device is up to you i guess

fallow galleon
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interesting. unifi cameras cost though. I have their AP but cameras are another rabbit hole.

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theres plenty of reasons for ping to not respond, doesnt mean the device is down. also switches at their core are layer 2. and ping needs layer 3, although management brings them up to layer 3 alot of the time these days

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but depending on the device once powered it might respond to ping for a while till it comes up. but if you set the timeout longer it reduces its usefulness etc... i am not sure ICMP is the right tool for that job

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i could look up how it does detection but i cba

primal laurel
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oh and it is way too simple to be useful

forest edge
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having more than 30MB up helps a ton when reviewing frigate recordings remotely lol

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I do check on things

primal laurel
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it's like the dumbest interface you could have. On, off or something based on a timer

solar zealot
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Criminal area full of raccoons

forest edge
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wish I could get faster than 4g at the farm

solar zealot
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Maybe it would be better if you declare the racoons as potential customers to your isp

deft pewter
forest edge
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I check on more than just my farm

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3-500 bucks for a 5g router is insane

crisp oriole
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FINALLY. ```root@sascha:/var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/default/6001/INBOX# python3 /tmp/foo
Transcription: Hello, this is Bram. How are you doing? I want to know if this works with Test2Speech with Whisper.

deft pewter
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Paying for a router is insane 🫠

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crisp oriole
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Its to get transcriptions from my asterisk voicemails.

fallow galleon
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_> I don't understand gmail api tho

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I can use imap.......

crisp oriole
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I have faster whisper running

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but i never where able to make a cli/script interface to it.

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until now

deft pewter
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just ask chat

ocean oar
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Lol, that was quick

iron granite
solar zealot
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u guys actually get voicemail PES_Hehehe

shell topaz
iron granite
forest edge
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@tidal bronze do you have your real id?

acoustic cloak
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Hello just getting started and man i am loving this.

I am assuming ipads will be ok for dashboard correct? i plan to have several around the house.

forest edge
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if you are going to use a tablet I would suggest just using it as a tablet and not anything specific for HA. tablets don't generally last long as an always on device etc

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there is HA apps for both ios and android not to mention you could just bring up the dashboard in a browser

static schooner
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There's a cutoff in terms of iOS version, so check the companion app docs and follow up in #1284965926336335993

tidal bronze
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Did it when real ID was online

static schooner
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You can opt for additional, deeper probing if you don't have one

forest edge
acoustic cloak
forest edge
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they make some tablets designed to be always powered through mains as well as some devices that are made spececifally to be wall mounted

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nothing cheap which is why so many just use battery powered tablets that are always plugged in but those won't last

acoustic cloak
forest edge
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its a crap shoot just how long it will last

acoustic cloak
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thank you!

tidal bronze
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Lunch meeting was brutal.! Tequila whiskey and wine this gotta stop

thick dragon
tidal bronze
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Too early

forest edge
tidal bronze
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Columbus?

clear ferry
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Are you an administrator @last cedar ?

deft pewter
unborn merlin
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standard communication protocols!?

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oh baby.

silent doveBOT
stuck anchor
deft pewter
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We need another standard to unify all these divergent standards.

clear ferry
primal laurel
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7252

last cedar
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The administrator

clear ferry
stuck anchor
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rfc 6214 is also relevant

clear ferry
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I don't know anyone who has done any actual RFCs, but I have two friends who are mentioned in some IEEE docs

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oh no, one of them actually has an RFC mention too

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Actually two

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Actually, I found him mentioned in 10 so far

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should probably try to get a few myself at some point

primal laurel
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I have one paper on IEEE, does that count?

clear ferry
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yes

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but since it is you, no

primal laurel
clear ferry
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don't unalive yourself, just do some twerking on tiktok and life will be better again

iron granite
clear ferry
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schroedingers wave

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the EE guy is either dead or alive, until you observe him

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then he is just annoying

primal laurel
clear ferry
iron granite
primal laurel
shell edge
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Hi all! I was just wondering where the discussions around UX in Home Assistant are being done? I think I heard during a YouTube Live that there is a section on Discord where the UX team can be found and where ideas are shared and discussed. Is it the Dashboard section? That feels a bit to limited and focussed on Dashboards only?

red rock
shell edge
red rock
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cc @barren bridge

shell edge
red rock
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Also note that we're still in the process of moving things to the open

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So at least all new projects like the automation editor will be started here (and that thread is also more populated) (the device database is another good example)

stuck anchor
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the only (afaik) implementation of rfc 1149 showed severe problems with out of order reception, probably escalated by spring time, and some packet loss due to interference from more aggressive avians. they did manage to run ping across the connection though

sour lake
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Y'all how do I connect ha as BT speaker

deft pewter
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Y'all how do I find a support channel 🫠

weak musk
solar zealot
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bed time starts at 0 and ends at 24

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It's always time for a good rest

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that's just a lack of automation

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welp one has to do it I guess
thanks for your services

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(node red doesn't count tho)

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that's just misery

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oh my that says a lot

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what stuff do you use

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beep beep

primal laurel
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IFFT smile

normal moon
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Now that drones are a thing, and autonomous drones are looking like they will become more of a thing, I wonder how long until AI puts Organics out of a job with respect to RFC 1149 implementations.

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Oh no, solidarity bro, if I could get ChatGPT to attend Zoom meetings I could definitely catch up on snacks, naps, and Sanctuary Moon.

astral lintel
deft pewter
primal laurel
deft pewter
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They're upside down

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Also, they've already been directed to the only place a support discussion should be taking place shrugR

primal laurel
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This has nothing to do with HA so its perfect for here 😄

weak musk
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1000% for a floor plan dashboard

snow kelp
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guys, i have a HA Green, i want to manage some Daikin bluetooth aircondition units at my home, do i need to purchase a bluetooth dongle?

primal laurel
snow kelp
deft pewter
primal laurel
weak musk
deft pewter
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Also, check the support channels 🤯

primal laurel
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im doing this just to piss you off

deft pewter
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Yes because you're a massive clown

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You're only making yourself like stupid.

primal laurel
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rather be a clown than a nasty person like you 😄

snow kelp
remote hornet
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I have an (or a few) old monitors and I'd like to set up a dashboard for my home that's visible (doesn't need to be interactive) What's the best way to do this? Use a raspberry pi as input to the screen?

deft pewter
astral lintel
# primal laurel What do you mean by hard to read?

They're scans of a printed document that looks like it had been folded...there's hand-written notes on it. Overall it's just hard to read. Would probably need an AI tool that could actually sort out the difference between walls, windows, doors, etc. and "junk" in the image.

primal laurel
forest edge
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ya the default auto backup is off lol

weak musk
forest otter
deft pewter
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There's an option to track your order on that site, and another option to submit a support ticket.

static schooner
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File an issue on GitHub 🙂

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In the merch repo

crisp oriole
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Btw if someone thinks i make my assistant happy and sad with the new feature. My washing machine was 1st.

forest otter
midnight adder
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Have anyone tried AI object detection with voice assistant?
How well it works?
Hook me up on it, i wanna learn everything about it.

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Can the voice assistant like talk about what it sees?

primal laurel
midnight adder
robust flicker
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I told my daughter she was named after me.

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When she tried to argue, I said "look . I was named in 1976. When were you named again?" that shut her up. 😂

iron granite
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🥁

forest edge
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you named her breakone9r?

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i'd complain too

ocean oar
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This has the same dad joke energy as replying to someone saying "this is a photo of me when I was younger" with "every photo of you is when you were younger"

deft pewter
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I love it

indigo knot
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Are there any home assistant devices ready to drop onto a wifi network and do wake word + responses? Seems like hone assistant site shows a few devices, but seems like they all want to be plugged into USB of a machine

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I want to replicate my Google home within reason, without google

crisp oriole
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\o/

duration: 7
caller_id: Bram Diederik<6010>
timestamp: Wed May  7 09:46:27 PM UTC 2025
transcription:  Hello Sasha, this is a rice message that you can transcribe, I hope. Bye!```
deft pewter
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Love those rice messages. Very tasty.

crisp oriole
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AI should translate it to nice i hope.

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@deft pewter if they are putting fortunes in rice china has lost me as a customer.

deft pewter
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Oh, no. However will they manage without you

crisp oriole
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After what some policical guy is trying i know my place.

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lets change subject.

young sigil
weak musk
tidal bronze
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@forest edge you will love this place! Some wine at the DUMBO house

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blissful zodiac
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I want to make a vehicle that can natively use HomeAssistant to lock, unlock, and the other buttons

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But I want to propose an idea of something called "nano-instances" that you can connect to over Bluetooth or WiFi and can connect to your main instance when you get home.

static schooner
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That sounds like an ESPHome ESP32-based device

forest edge
static schooner
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There might be peanut shells on the ground. It's out of frame

steel urchin
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Am I just finding out that automation syntax has changed?

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My webhook's suddenly stopped working, no errors on start, but when trying to hit them I get a message saying it's unregistered.... When I go to review docs, the format is different than what I created years ago... I really don't want to redo years worth of automations 😢

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damn even the action syntax has changed...

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this is a nightmare for long-running users...

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am i tripping? someone tell me i'm tripping and i'm wrong 😅

forest edge
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you talking about some change with 2025.5?

steel urchin
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i'm not sure when the change may have been made.. i'm trying to scour the changelogs but nothing is jumping out at me

silent doveBOT
forest edge
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if you are updating after eons then yea.. some things have changed but I haven't had anything break like what you are describing

steel urchin
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i update the day updates come out, but i rarely read the changelogs after things have been working flawlessly for years

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my webhooks are all saying it's not registered when they hit

forest edge
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well that is a bad decision imo lol

steel urchin
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it's the only thing i'm seeing an issue with

forest edge
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I always wait till mid month

steel urchin
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i mean that's an assinine thing to go down that path, considering users will do that

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but the point being is this may be an old issue i'm just seeing

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and i can't find the notice in any changelog

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but this is really something that should bubble it's way up to the UI to let users know syntax has changed

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my vscode extension is barking at me saying something about not matching legacy syntax which is what clued me into reading the docs and seeing it all changed

glacial knot
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@frenck added support for detecting Home Assistant Container installation types not running in host networking mode. This is important for Home Assistant to function properly. It raises a repair issue if it detects this
Oh no. Looks like I can't update D:

forest edge
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lol @ non haos users

glacial knot
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Running a VM in an isolated network just to silence the warning sounds extra dumb

steel urchin
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Anyone see anything wrong with this? I'm not seeing it in my logs but I know the automation is running because my light is turning on

  actions:
    - action: system_log.write
      data:
        message: "Motion Webhook Triggered"
        level: warning
glacial knot
burnt kernel
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last update messed up all my cozylife entities... 🤦‍♂️ i immediatelly rolled back to previous backup... i have no intention to use Samsung Smart Things to control my device i am controlling locally. Any other with this issue?

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burnt kernel
desert cave
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you want to create a thread there for your issue

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also unrelated, lmao.. it's 1:30AM and I'm getting 8W from my solar panels

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burnt kernel
primal laurel
crisp oriole
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Oh i read harrast

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Good morning all. I need coffee

desert cave
burnt kernel
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Morning you all too, i'm at my 2nd cofee at the moment

crisp oriole
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And test came out most people preffer senseo with blind coffee tests. Many coffee critics hate senseo.

burnt kernel
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don't think about those full dirty water mugs, i'm talking about espresso. REAL one, so like 2 cm tall in a small espresso cup

crisp oriole
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How can you code on a espresso

burnt kernel
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damn to reply this one i need a third one

crisp oriole
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Thats what im saying

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Take honest no joke no fancy stfu dutch coffee.

The dutch drink far more coffee than Italians so we know.

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I been a volunteer basista for 1.5 year. You can make perfect dutch coffee with itallian coffee machines.

Only the itallian baristas just refuse.

burnt kernel
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you know it's part of our traditions,,, when you touch an italian tradition, italians get mad

crisp oriole
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Mamamia i woke up to late i can no longer drink my cappuccino

burnt kernel
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still in time

clear ferry
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clear ferry
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No it was exactly as funny as I wanted it to be

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!

iron granite
clear ferry
crisp oriole
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How many of you have self made scripts to extend the knowledge of your hass AI.

I added a script that throws all voicemail info in one json put it in a return varible. Explain the function add the function. And your home assistant knows everything about your voicemails

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Im on a mission to make voicemails great again. Because most people dont speak in voicemails again because it is a pain in the ass to read back. Not with my system.

solar zealot
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idk the first thng i do is disable voicemail, its useless to me

primal laurel
deft pewter
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Daft dutch: saving the world's problems one crappy bash script at a time.

crisp oriole
feral flower
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I've just transferred my system to a new PC. I can't believe how well it went! I found myself saying in a Paul Hibbert voice "It just wiiiiirks" like when he's taking the pee out of Hue fans

scenic radish
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my code just walks sometimes

crisp oriole
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Forexample i found out the UWV used my beta hack for single sign on years after i had 8 hours left when microsoft finally send there we take care of it single sign on solution and it contained a login prompt.

primal laurel
feral flower
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😄

crisp oriole
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What i hate with a passion is a google search and the only results are youtube i fix your problem videos of 30 min with no link to some tekst.

deft pewter
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It's almost like there are ways to exclude certain sites from results 🤯

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People complaining about Google results tend to be the people who don't know how to Google 😂

feral flower
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Don't say it out loud. Google will be sure to remove whatever it was you found helpful

glacial knot
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Is this Google you speak of in this room?

primal laurel
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google search results are like 99% useless these days. I dont even know what happened

crisp oriole
feral flower
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The bot will convey the information

deft pewter
feral flower
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They just haven't started on that yet

peak slate
deft pewter
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Stuff like:

site:foo.bar baz (search for baz only on foo.bar)
-site:foo.bar baz (search for baz everywhere except foo.bar)
peak slate
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You see more ads if their search is slightly worse

deft pewter
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Yeah, sponsored stuff at the top has become the norm. But it takes less than a second to scroll past that to the actual results.

peak slate
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The old head of search saw it coming and fought it until he left Google

feral flower
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Chatgpt can find everything. And it's $20 a month if you want to ask another question 😄

peak slate
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Then the penny pushers came in and went wild

deft pewter
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SEO was the real horror and that's not directly Google's fault. That's everyone else gaming the system to appear at the top, even when they probably ought not to.

deft pewter
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Even OpenAI admit that their newest models are getting progressively worse.

primal laurel
# peak slate Monetization

that too. But I block most of that stuff already. But nowadays if I search for something very specific I do not get the thing I am looking for but I do get a bunch adjacent stuff

deft pewter
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It turns out ingesting your own slop makes for even worse slop.

primal laurel
crisp oriole
feral flower
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ChatGPT came up with a solution for me that required me to open a second Amazon personal account. Good thing I thought to check as it turns out that is against their rules. I went back and told chatgpt, and made it promise to put that caveat in whenever it gave that advice.

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Goodness knows if it learns from its users

primal laurel
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verify everything. Make it use sources, then check the sources. Only way to be sure

crisp oriole
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Btw i changed from chatgpt to deepseek for home assistant and other tech questions. Way better.

vague owl
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Anyone in here use Fully Kiosk?

crisp oriole
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Yus make a thead.

vague owl
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Oh ok, hopefully i can get a quick answer in there

deft pewter
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It can't know or learn anything. It's a semantic parrot. I wish people would realise that.

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You can supplement some of the LLMs responses somewhat using RAG but they're just fancy sentence generators. They can only spit out something that looks like it's useful, based on mimicking thousands of similar things that might have been useful.

deft pewter
primal laurel
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It can 'learn' anything that fits within its context window. Which is not enough for when you want to reason about complex situations but it is enough for most tasks

deft pewter
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Let's be charitable and say it can analyse. That's one thing. Learning is another entirely and something LLMs are not capable of.

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Learning requires understanding.

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They're just statistical models. shrugR

crisp oriole
deft pewter
#

So you somehow found the secret sauce to figuring out exactly what medical emergency those particular medics are responding to, despite that being the kind of information that there will be no realtime API for?

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How the fuck does that work?

crisp oriole
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And it works where i am in the netherlands. Not just my home location

primal laurel
deft pewter
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So, what... there's a Dutch API that reveals private medical information to the world?

crisp oriole
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112 rss feeds

deft pewter
feral flower
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I used to be able to listen to the Ambulance (London) radio transmissions. This was in the 1970s when I had a multiband radio. It was just a consumer radio not a scanner or anything

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So I knew what nearby ambulances were going to

deft pewter
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Absolutely. But they use digital stuff now. Mobiles, cellular data, etc.

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No more unencrypted radio to eavesdrop on.

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I'm interested in seeing these RSS feeds now that show medical info.

glacial knot
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Nope. Still on the same airwaves
But encrypted

crisp oriole
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Just heared one

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glacial knot
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Anything that needs to work in emergencies is set up to not require mobile phone infra

feral flower
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Maybe in Nederland they don't care about keeping it private

deft pewter
deft pewter
crisp oriole
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Its a 112 rss feed parser said that alread

deft pewter
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Googling that doesn't give any good results. Share the feed please.

feral flower
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Perhaps you should report to them that their data is leaking then. It's not really fair on the patients

crisp oriole
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Get my local location parse the zip code. Get the rss feed of that zip code. Throw the tesults to the ai

deft pewter
feral flower
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Not you, I meant him, the person getting the feed

crisp oriole
deft pewter
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I don't think you were around the other day when he said his AI came up with a plan to save the whole world. And I think he seriously believes that 😂

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One dude and an LLM saving the world... sounds like recent news that totally didn't backfire.

feral flower
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it may well have come up with a plan. Plans don't always work

deft pewter
crisp oriole
deft pewter
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That doesn't look like an RSS feed to me

crisp oriole
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Christus te paard

deft pewter
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Insulting me in another language doesn't make it better 😉

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Maybe ask your AI to give the source of the RSS?

feral flower
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Anyone for a cup of cool water?

deft pewter
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Chat: how do I make water cold?

crisp oriole
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The AI does not know its a rss feed. Its a script that the AI gives a city country and perhaps a zipcode. That runs a python script running the right rss feed.

feral flower
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It's not telling you what the call out was over, just the location of a particular vehicle

crisp oriole
deft pewter
deft pewter
primal laurel
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the RSS feed is on the same website. Regular news apps use this one

deft pewter
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Where it can actually hear things, unlike Dutch's 'solution' 😁

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Audio detection is smart. Asking a agent to go look up what you already know for yourself because you just heard it is... daft.

crisp oriole
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Do you know where something is going and how large a emergency is by just hearing?

deft pewter
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Yes. You can tell which direction something is travelling in, and approximately how many vehicles are in that convoy.

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Asking the real questions.

iron granite
deft pewter
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Most people: oh, an ambulance
Dutch: lemme build an agentic flow

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Yup. Mostly just nothing burgers. And if it was something newsworthy... it'd be on the news.

crisp oriole
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I can check current events about something using voice. I bike walk a lot and dont want to get my phone outside.

I was in scheveningen last week for a vacation. I checked like i do a lot if it save out side. And we did not went out.

deft pewter
#

And it still wouldn't matter to me if it didn't involve me or mine.

crisp oriole
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Just my head set tap tap.

deft pewter
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I checked like i do a lot if it save out side.
Why wouldn't it be safe outside? Can your AI predict if you're going to get hit by a bus?

crisp oriole
deft pewter
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Dutch - no judgement, just curious. Are you ND?

crisp oriole
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So instead of a tap tap is it save out side. Go outside and travle for 20 min just to get ordered by the police to go back for 20 min

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Sigh we wanted to have a relax walk on the beach. We had cocktails instead.

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I dont want to have a constand flood of info. I want the right info when i need it

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Who on earth is going on vacation and going to listen to a police scanner or two

primal laurel
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you dont have to explain it. If it works for you, who cares

crisp oriole
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I was in the hotel going to the elevator.

primal laurel
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pretty sure those are illegal here

crisp oriole
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I mean going to your hotel room and listen to a scanner instead of relax in a spa.

static schooner
crisp oriole
clear ferry
primal laurel
clear ferry
crisp oriole
# clear ferry

And i dont know how a cow can explain that it would be treated like a bull.

primal laurel
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isn't it in energy drinks?

clear ferry
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Oh boy, are we pulling up internet memes from 2000 about energy drinks

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I didn't even bother waking up until 0815 today, and kids had to be in school at 0830, suffice to say we were there at 0845

primal laurel
clear ferry
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Lol surreal memes of the 00s, I miss those

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According to google maps my wife's office is exactly 1024km from our house

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How satisfying

feral flower
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As the crow flies or as you'd actually have to travel?

clear ferry
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As google measures it, so guessing as crow flies

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Since it says 1024km away when I look at maps

feral flower
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Still, nice number as you say

clear ferry
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My office is unfortunately 1029

feral flower
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buffer overflow

clear ferry
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First grade is eeeee

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Pssh, I tell authority to fuck off, gotta teach them right

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My bosses know this, the management knows this and my customers know this HaHaa

elder sundial
pulsar umbra
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hey hello

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took me quite some time to figure out the general was here lmao

clear ferry
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Only the Colonel is here, sorry

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General ignorance is over there

iron granite
clear ferry
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Mostly general incompetence in here mind you

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It's good you have self reflection in order

robust flicker
clear ferry
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Wait what, elevators on the roof

merry garnet
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...well, that's unfortunate - the new HA release broke the LCARS sidebar themeing

primal laurel
primal laurel
clear ferry
deft pewter
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Can't lift the 'cart' to the top floor if there's nothing above the top floor to lift from.

static schooner
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Elevators are suspended from the great turtle in the sky

robust flicker
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There was a fire here last month that, among other things, damages the aforementioned control cables. And they've been on local control ever since. They're finally out here to restore proper control to the elevator.

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They couldn't do their part until the other repairs were finished on the roof.

deft pewter
clear ferry
robust flicker
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The fire was a fairly minor one in the laundry room. One of the dryers caught fire, and burned up the others. The worst part was actually on the roof, as decades of dryer lint in the exhaust all went up at once, and blew the aluminum housing off several of the dryer vents and sent a fireball about 2-3 meters high. That melted a lot of shit up here.

clear ferry
robust flicker
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The elevators themselves were approximately 100m from where the fire was. There was no issues there.

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This is a jail complex. Multiple buildings, some of which are interconnected but not all.

clear ferry
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An American that uses meters, this is mega suspicious

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Calling the FBI

deft pewter
robust flicker
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I can convert meters to yards in my head basically on a 1 to 1 basis.

clear ferry
deft pewter
robust flicker
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Besides. I'm a government worker. In the electronics department. So yeah, we use a lot of metric.

deft pewter
robust flicker
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I'll give y'all one guess where the elevators are. 😂

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deft pewter
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Just like you have to have a pit at the bottom of the shaft for the dampeners and things at the bottom (that you hope will never matter because the emergency brakes should have kicked in long before)

robust flicker
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Besides, these are hydraulic elevators anyway. Only two floors in that building. The minimum security building has 3 floors, but that one is across the street from the rest of the complex. While it is also controlled over here, that's all fiber under the road

static schooner
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I was about to say. Some elevators push the car up and down

robust flicker
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The more interesting thing to see up here on the roof is the SS United States cruise ship. That's soon going to become an artificial reef.

static schooner
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Sinking the United States on purpose is some allegory 🙂

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I shall stop there

clear ferry
clear ferry
deft pewter
clear ferry
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Considering a floor is 2.4m in Norwegian standards, in housing that is, and probably 4m in industrial buildings, eh, it depends pepekek

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Looks like newer ones are 6m per floor

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But I usually build industrial buildings

deft pewter
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You're a builder now too, not just a terrible network admin? troll

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HPE - Helping People Erect

clear ferry
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Well, I usually have to go into the building while they are being built, because I need to tell the idjits where to route the cables and how

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clear ferry
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Oh yes

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Like the one hospital we built, 25000 switch ports HaHaa

merry garnet
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i have seen horrors of both

clear ferry
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Better get those sparkies oot of my datacentors buddy

merry garnet
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<ptsd> wirenuts... wirenuts on low voltage... </ptsd>

clear ferry
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They can keep wiring the 48v racks thanks, I'm not touching that death trap

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Or the newer 400v DC stuff

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clear ferry
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Wire nuts are at least an upgrade from knob and tie

robust flicker
merry garnet
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I mean, why would you use a wire nut when .·:¨¨ WAGO connectors ¨¨:·. exist?

clear ferry
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Because USA, USA, USA

robust flicker
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was a catv tech for almost 7 years many decades ago

clear ferry
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So many videos I've seen on youtube with Americans going "these are dangerous" when talking about Wago, and saying use wirenuts

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"whats that?"
sparky: oh we had to cut a cable but we wagoed it back together and put it in a box. its only small so low current. it will be fine.
"what the fuck"
sparky: it will be fine we do it all the time

narrator: it was in fact not fine... it was a fibre cable...

merry garnet
clear ferry
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Fiber optic Wago when? We need it

robust flicker
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Just as an aside. I will always intentionally mispronounce "fibre" as "fee bray" 😂

clear ferry
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Well, you have to distinguish between fibre and fiber

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As in fiber cable and fibre channel

merry garnet
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Arguably worse would be someone doing a field wire splice on a fiber cable

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its a great example where someone does a fantastic job of something thats completly wrong and would never work

clear ferry
robust flicker
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"muricans don't use metric"

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clear ferry
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Imported?

merry garnet
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what do you mean, electrons is the same as photons, they both carry signal blobupsidedown

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wago, protective box, protective gromets, pefectly alliigned. etc...

robust flicker
merry garnet
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If you talk up Wagos you wind up having issues with wire nut nuts

clear ferry
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Considering wire nut in itself is an issue, I don't doubt it, but wait till Sonoma gets here

clear ferry
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_take from 1932 in Louisiana _ you mean

robust flicker
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@clear ferry no lie, I submitted 2 purchase requests for two different brands of the same HDMI expander/splitter Why? Because the first one was from Japan. I was told I had to use an american supplier. So I found one for half again as much.... From some no name brand but it said "Made in USA" on the box, so it was ok to order... WTF.

clear ferry
merry garnet
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The box was made in the USA though

clear ferry
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Or the leaflet

robust flicker
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It's government. It doesn't have to make sense. It just has to be approved.

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clear ferry
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Good thing wagos were introduced 1951 then

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well i meant the version thats now industry standard 😛

forest edge
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I personally liked the super old style that was a metal ring with a set screw and a cap that just snapped onto it

primal laurel
forest edge
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it was almost as easy as wagos

clear ferry
stuck mortar
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Even Home Depot now stocks wagos
Just buy wagos people

forest edge
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think there is a video out that shows the harbor freight version of the wago is better than the wago so maybe not buy wago

stuck mortar
clear ferry
forest edge
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they are outside brands just like anywhere else

fathom sparrow
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as a wire nut guy ^

static schooner
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Careful, you'll catch that shrub on fire

stuck mortar
clear ferry
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The burning bush ?

forest edge
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homeowner(s) who don't know how to wire stuff is where this issue stems from lol

clear ferry
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Hence why home owner wiring is illegal here

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Albeit, I do it, because I'm partially trained

forest edge
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till you improperly use a wire nut and the connection is loose then complain about them and tell everyone to use wagos..

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i have no doubt some have

crisp oriole
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White smoke

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No rss feed

merry garnet
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aw man, I wanted to set up a HA automation to trigger whenever there's a new pope

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can't believe the Vatican doesn't have an RSS feed for pope updates

forest edge
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this is a a modren version of the type my grandfathers house had but I like these over everything

weak musk
merry garnet
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I mean, I won't have a chance to test the integration for at least a decade if I implement it now

forest edge
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clear ferry
forest edge
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both covered the set screw so it could never come loose

dawn badge
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i was more worried about the cap coming off and it becoming exposed shorting on something

merry garnet
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twisted fire starters?

forest edge
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here we go.. dissing wood

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nothing stopping you from rebuilding your house out of mud decoy

primal laurel
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try brick

tacit sonnet
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I tried that once but I couldnt stop eating the tasty mud

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Wood is harder to chew. Much easier to stay focused

clear ferry
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Wood houses win

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tacit sonnet
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I really don't understand why Americans would have used an abundant and cheap resource to rapidly expand a relatively new country with little industry that then becomes a standard

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Idiots really

fathom sparrow
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I've yet to own a house that had anything other than wire nuts

weak musk
fathom sparrow
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what's used in your house?

tacit sonnet
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Why aren't 100-200 year old cities designed around an emerging transportation technology linked by a supply network built for WW2 as functional and put together as century old euro cities

weak musk
tacit sonnet
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Should use knob and tube tbh

weak musk
fathom sparrow
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really odd that it's that way in your house

weak musk
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Just call me QF junior

fathom sparrow
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did you wire your house?

weak musk
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Replaced all fixtures and outlets.

fathom sparrow
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and if you use wire nuts properly, they really aren't a firehazard, but people tend to put too many or too few wires in them and give them a bad name.

weak musk
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Also true

tacit sonnet
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They require a level of sobriety rare in the modern trades

fathom sparrow
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That I can agree with

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I wire nutted the shit out of my house when I redid things. Made sure to look up the code and purchase proper sizes for number of wires and gauges

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that was before I heard of wago tho, 10 years or so ago

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wago's are so much easier

merry garnet
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Oop, the Swiss Guard are coming out on the Papal livestream

tacit sonnet
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Wagos suffer for the sins of our breaker codes

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part of electrical work changes happening is convincing the sparks
young guy says: have you seen this no thing its great and makes life easier
old spark: look here boy, i have been doing this for 50 years i dont care what little toy you have there. we do it my way

weak musk
# fathom sparrow did you wire your house?

When I replaced the light over my kitchen sink and found painters tape wrapped around bare wires it seemed like a good idea to go through everything in the house. Found two other instances of that.

tacit sonnet
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The real question is how much PoE I can shove through da Nortel block

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neutrals at light switches during rewires took ages to because normal because of that

fathom sparrow
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I found a few fuck ups, but nothing major

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I built in 2016, and started smarthoming it immediately

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like, day 1 I think

static schooner
weak musk
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Yeah I started after the first full week, but ours was not a new build. 2001… but after growing up in 2 houses 180-250 years old it was positively modern comparatively.

tacit sonnet
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That's impossible a wooden house would never last that long

weak musk
fathom sparrow
robust flicker
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In other news, I'll be relocating/reinstalling my HA again soon. 🤣

weak musk
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New hardware or new home?

robust flicker
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I just bought an old supermicro server board w a 2014 era xeon and 32G of ram, and plan to throw proxmox on it.

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New-to-me hardware at any rate. 🤣

tacit sonnet
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There's a new pope you gotta get new hardware

robust flicker
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Right now, it's running fine in a pi5. But I also have an old dell Optiplex 790 (2013 era i3 2100) w 16G that is my NAS and Plex server.

tacit sonnet
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Don't wanna have guests over and your light switches are a pope out of date

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robust flicker
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I plan to put the supermicro ATX board into that Optiplex case, along with a new psu.

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And since the board in question is also dual gigabit, I'll be running opnsense on the proxmox server, and probably adguard home as well.

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So I figured, hell, I might as well move the HA into it as well, and use the pi5 for other things.

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But if probably won't be until closer to the end of the month. That's when the PSU is expected

tacit sonnet
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Pi5 is a crazy good space heater

robust flicker
clear ferry
robust flicker
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This will be like the 4th install of HAOS. First was on the laptop. 2nd was on the pi5 on an SDcard because the SSD hat was delayed in shipment. Then installed it on the pi again, because I could not get it to copy off the SDcard to the SSD.

clear ferry
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I haven't really reinstalled HA since I moved to container, it's changed host 5 times though

robust flicker
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Ive never used proxmox or docker or whatever flavor of the month container thing there is.

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strokes his beard my Plex server is on top of FreeBSD.

clear ferry
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I moved off BSD in 2018

robust flicker
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My first BSD experience was installing netbsd in like 1996 or so.

clear ferry
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I never touched BSD until 2012, but I ran linux from 1997, and I've been fixing HPUX systems since 2007

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Solaris i just tell to fuck off

robust flicker
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I have used linux since 94. Started with slackware 2.something. Linux kernel 1.2.something.

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I have also used Solaris and opensolaris before it was nuked, and I've also used illumos and open Indiana

clear ferry
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But where it the port of HA to TempleOS?

robust flicker
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First "real" ISP provided a shell and it was Solaris.

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Zebra.net. I had a static IP on dialup with them. I don't remember the actual IP address, but the name was stealth.zebra.net. God that brings back memories.

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I was the "author" of the old mirc script named Stealth Advanced....

tacit sonnet
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My ISP charges 300$ a month for a static IP but my IP changes about once a year when a hurricane takes out the network. I think they keep everyone static so the remote modem support is easier

robust flicker
tacit sonnet
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For 3600 I could have my IP not change in the hurricane

deft pewter
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Just shoot at the hurricane to have it change direction.

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robust flicker
clear ferry
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I haven't had a static IP in my life, used dyndns since 2000

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Before that I made static DNS entries

tacit sonnet
deft pewter
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Difficult? 🤣

tacit sonnet
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That's why Jeff Bezos put my host IP in the Eero app

primal laurel
tacit sonnet
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Pi 5 is 25.5-27w railed not crazy but a bit more juice than 15 when people don't understand that the extra compute power makes heat

primal laurel
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Running HA? You're not gonna do much more than 5W average

merry garnet
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Looks like the new Pope is out; he's from Chicago

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first the Cubs win, now they get a Pope...

primal laurel
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Does he get to shoot people? Being from Chicago?

merry garnet
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BREAKING: VATICAN ANNOUNCES ONLY DEEP DISH PIZZA CONSIDERED CATHOLIC, ALL OTHERS ARE ANTI-PIZZAS

clear ferry
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VATICAN ANNOUNCES ONLY WIRE NUTS ARE ALLOWED, WAGOS ARE NOW HERETIC

tacit sonnet
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That's why he gets announced with smoke

clear ferry
tacit sonnet
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It was foreshadowed when the last popemobile was dodge ram

glacial knot
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Dodge : 🐏?

clear ferry
primal laurel
crisp oriole
clear ferry
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Neeeerd

crisp oriole
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I played 1st division rugby at that time

static schooner
clear ferry
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::1

crisp oriole