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lunar sundial
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Fancy?

neat totem
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Yes, and as I mentioned, I read it multiple times. And multiple times it says "write the Home Assistant Operating System disk image to your boot medium" - and then has no links to it

static schooner
neat totem
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you can hover over it, and click "Learn More" and it just tells me about it - still no links to the image

static schooner
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Please post there

neat totem
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Seriously? I don't understand why I need a whole thread for a someone to simply post a link

static schooner
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Yes, seriously

tawny flume
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Perverse effects of creating an easy system, most of people no longer take the time to read doc

iron granite
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Too late. They chose to leave this Discord instead of creating a post in the right thread. shksShrug

tawny flume
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He may have realized that the information was on the page he was reading.

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I like how Valetudo hypfer deal with this kind of request

forest edge
crisp oriole
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Why is no one selling a esphome doorbell with camera? Lots of howtos but no sale.

solar zealot
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because diy cam modules generally suck

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people tend to just buy something that works once they spend a buncha money i would guess

glacial knot
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huh, Z2M had a weird thing right now
had a light unplugged for a while and now that it came back up it wenth through all changes in colour sent to it over the last couple hours in rapid succession

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nice lightshow though πŸ˜‚

crisp oriole
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Dont wake up your lights so abruptly.

glacial knot
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ah yes, should have put it on a dimmable socket and slowly upped the voltage

solar zealot
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You wouldn't want to be woken up and given hundreds of tasks in the morning either

umbral cliff
robust flicker
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I really wanna swap my bedroom lightswitch for a dimmer switch. Problem is, it's a no neutral switch, and my only option is kinda expensive for my broke butt ...

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I could use smart bulbs I suppose...

forest edge
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Look into GE cync

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see that stuff at walmart all the time. hard to get any cheaper than that lol

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and needs no neutral

robust flicker
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Yeah. I guess.

robust flicker
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As an aside, I've found that my cheap sengled wifi bulbs actually can get super dim if you set the brightness using 0-255 instead of 1%-100% .. my sengled porch lights seem to work all the way down to 4/255....

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Whereas with percentages, at 1% it could've been set from anywhere around 10 to 30, depending how it felt. 🀣

primal laurel
robust flicker
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Except relays don't fit behind all my switches. This house is a converted mobile home. Some added on parts are standard thickness walls, but not the master bedroom.

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It was originally just an old single wide trailer, but has had several walls knocked out and additions added, plus a roof over the entire thing, so the crawlspace between the ceiling and the roof is basically inaccessible as well. It really limits what one can do to the interior. :/

primal laurel
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With a bit of work everything can fit πŸ˜…

solar zealot
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Sounds like a case for tv smart my home

robust flicker
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Yeah, but at that kinda budget level, I'd just bulldoze the damn place and build it how I want it.

wispy needle
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Reolink support - is just the absolute worst. No one probably cares, but I just had to let that out.

robust flicker
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It's almost an acre and a half, in a decent area, and I'm 5 minutes from a major east-west highway. And we paid only 50k for it all. So .. yeah.

primal laurel
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I need more like 500k to buy anything here

solar zealot
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That could pay for a lot of drugs

deft pewter
robust flicker
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Nah, it was cheap because the people selling it had no clue what it was worth, and didn't use an agent. The place just 3 or 4 houses down from us is listed for 200k.

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Ours is admittedly, a slightly smaller lot, but not by that much. Theirs** is 1.6ac and ours is 1.4ac (ugh, autocorrect is a @#$# sometimes)

deft pewter
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Yeah, sometimes a bit of market knowledge and a good agent can make a huge difference.

Not quite the same difference in price but another property on the same street as us sold at almost the same time for about 15% more than the one we bought.

Same plot size. Same overall building style (ours had some remodelling done). Ours was probably done up a bit nicer overall (new kitchen, well-decorated, etc).

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We couldn't have afforded more, so we're really lucky that whoever bought the other one missed out on this. Otherwise, we probably would've been outbid.

sterile ferry
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I see a dog in the clouds!

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solar zealot
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yes

static schooner
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The question is how did it get up there?

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Rabbit must be just out of frame

lyric jacinth
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hi guys i jjust installed home assitant using chatGPT XD causei had nothing better to do i am currently on my make a user phase is there something i should know?

unborn merlin
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why bother asking here or using the walkthroughs; just ask chatgpt? πŸ™ƒ

lyric jacinth
static schooner
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indeed, I suggest following the actual instructions for installation and setting up

silent doveBOT
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lyric jacinth
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but chatgpt helped me alot during the installation

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solar zealot
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No idea why chatgpt would need to help at all, it's just following steps ^^

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One of the documentations that needs the least attention

static schooner
grizzled gull
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uggg we are going to have an entire generation of people who can't function by simplying learning to read and research

solar zealot
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It's quite funny tbh

unborn merlin
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yep.

primal laurel
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Lol as if the current generation is doing that

solar zealot
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The gen that told you to worry about things online doesn't worry at all. And those that come after do neither

unborn merlin
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all while claiming it works fine.. because they never learned to actually.. verify,.. anything..

grizzled gull
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I mean I get it, I find answers using google for problems I can't solve, but at least I take the time to look

unborn merlin
static schooner
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Did you ask ChatGPT? is the new "Did you Google that?"

solar zealot
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the fuck is that slang

primal laurel
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Sonoma is exhibit A of why old does not necessarily mean wise smile

solar zealot
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Oh my I read rupee lmao

unborn merlin
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get your reading glasses old man. /s

solar zealot
unborn merlin
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.... yells at jira? 🀣

static schooner
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no need to yell at Jira, just file a ticket

glacial knot
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yea, friends don't let friends use jira

grizzled gull
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Never heard of Jira, looks like a micromangement software

unborn merlin
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could be the dumb project management/source tracking software a professor in my college forced us to use

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was like "What if we bundled git and a self-hosted wiki page into the same product" ish

glacial knot
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we have a homegrown one

unborn merlin
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... also known as ass.

glacial knot
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it's actually kinda decent

static schooner
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Atlassian has really cornered the market on corporate tools

unborn merlin
static schooner
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they have their fingers everywhere

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I'm just surprised at the tools that end up coming from Atlassian

glacial knot
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I know some people want to use Jira in the future
but I'm not sure we actually want to do that...

unborn merlin
static schooner
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I didn't mind using Jira for project tracking. It wasn't terrible

glacial knot
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I just hope github issues level up to the point where we can use those πŸ˜‚

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yea, Jira is more of a framework than a product either way

forest edge
unborn merlin
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solution: get cameras even cheaper than reolink but are fairly hackable.

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(re: ssh is on and root is known..)

solar zealot
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I found a picture of sonoma and his raccoons on the internet

desert cave
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accurate

static schooner
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Hank Hill would have no use for raccoon filiment

blissful zodiac
primal laurel
blissful zodiac
primal laurel
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What's that

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jk

solar zealot
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People still 'customize' their phones in 2025? Lol

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i run LinageOS on mine, have been running it on phones for a few years now

blissful zodiac
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Nevermind, I'm going back to Stock Android

wispy needle
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I swear, my HA is magic - often when I go downstairs, my TV turns on. I have, as far as I know, no sensors that could pick up on that..........I KNOW I don't have any scripts or automations for turning the tv on - freaks me out

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I'm scared 😦

solar zealot
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It just wants you to watch ads

crisp oriole
wispy needle
grizzled gull
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Also stopped buying bloated phones

solar zealot
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tethering restrictions?

grizzled gull
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like 5gb's then they cut you off

solar zealot
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never had such happen but funky

grizzled gull
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US Carriers suck

solar zealot
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its your fault for not giving them more money (all of it)

grizzled gull
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ohhh I didn't know Linage was a fork of CM

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That brings back memories

ocean oar
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Back when I used to care about such things, Paranoid Android was my ROM of choice

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That name might bring back some ancient memories for some of y'all

ocean oar
grizzled gull
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yep

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Biggest thing to do is not buy a bloated phone(samsung.....)

ocean oar
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It was only for ad blocking for me, by the end

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But Adguard in "VPN" mode is damn near 100% effective, and doesn't require any screwing about

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Same same. Adguard's VPN option is just a VPN that doesn't actually connect to anything.
Quite a clever idea I thought, because unlike proxy/DNS changes, applications can't bypass it.

ocean oar
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Lol, my PC just caught a loose Bluetooth packet

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Gotta love IoT devices πŸ˜„

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Apparently Bluetooth-enabled scent diffusers are a thing. And we definitely don't own one, but someone in the neighbourhood must

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yeah, toothbrushes are becoming ccommon to see

atomic delta
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Finally made time and effort to fix my RPi bootloader so it could actually update to HAOS 15. Not sure what it changed tbh, but I didn't like being stuck on 14.2.

atomic delta
ocean oar
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I don't know why they need to be electric at all

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The ones that are just a bunch of bamboo skewers stuffed into a container of liquid work just fine

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If you insist on your house smelling of something

blissful zodiac
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This is my car. Say hello.
atomic delta
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It's probably a heated one. Wax melts or whatever.

atomic delta
ocean oar
atomic delta
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Ah, ultrasonic. That makes sense as well. Though using pure essential oils with one is such a terrible idea.

ocean oar
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The reviews indicate it is hilariously terrible:

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atomic delta
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Though since it says "therapeutic properties", it's built on bullshit to begin with.

ocean oar
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Ayup

static schooner
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It seems like for Frigate, cat on furniture == person detected, and I'm afraid that it's making me complacent when I get a notification that there's a person in my family room while I'm away

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cat on chair, cat on back of couch, all people

forest edge
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why you have multiple sensors that all have to be active in order to be notifed, "someone is eating your food in your family room"

static schooner
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I guess I could try to pair it with my security system motion detector, which is more discerning

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is frigate set up to detect cat as well as person? that way it will pick cat over person based on percentages?

static schooner
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yes

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hmm

static schooner
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it just doesn't seem to separate the cat from what it's sitting on

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it detects cats on the floor, or laying on the couch

dawn badge
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is cat simalar colour to furniture?

stuck anchor
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upgrade to a dog?

forest edge
dawn badge
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if you put a blanket over it for contrast does it work as expected maybe? maybe not long term solution but for science

static schooner
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it's currently at 81% person with a cat on the back of the couch

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although that also lends it self to dyeing the cats fur a constasting colour. and the rule is "do not harm the cat"

static schooner
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that frame triggered it, but I don't know what the percentage was

stuck anchor
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radar sensors that have energy threshold adjustment should be able to filter the cat out

forest edge
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I thought you did the frigate+ stuff?

static schooner
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I do

forest edge
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can't train a new model off the false positives?

dawn badge
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have you tried (if your able) to change the camera location? maybe its just a quirk of it

static schooner
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I haven't been doing that because Blake said that the model was really trained for indoor cameras, but yes, I could start submitting false positives

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it also captured the same cat as a "person" in a different room with a different camera sitting on a tall chair

stuck anchor
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in that particular frame it could be the backlighted motif gets too little contrasts on the cat?

static schooner
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Also a person 🀷

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I'll try submitting false positives

forest edge
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@tidal bronze you been scarce lately.. finally eat something that your iron stomach couldn't handle?

tidal bronze
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Around. Just busy

forest edge
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busy? it's already that 2-year-must-throw-away-everything-and-replace time is it?

tidal bronze
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That reminds me.

sage cedar
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Dye the couch?

deft pewter
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Leave the couch alone or VP will get you

umbral cliff
static schooner
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a furbaby perhaps

umbral cliff
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Maybe with AI

forest edge
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i'm not modren. i don't need replacing every 2 years

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i was made back when things were made to last

static schooner
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you know that when you've replaced all your parts, you're still old as dirt, right?

forest edge
umbral cliff
forest edge
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they work there

primal laurel
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Ah yes back when we thought smoking was healthy and we built stuff with asbestos. People were soooo smart back then.

forest edge
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asbestos is still a really good product for it's intended purpose and still holding strong today

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lets nark on stuff that does exactly what it was meant to do just cause human's are weak and don't know how to breathe around it

umbral cliff
forest edge
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only if you snort it

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like i said.. the product itself is solid

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its not the first thing that has been used to great effect before finding out its dangers, and its not the last

forest edge
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most stuff that has worked great has gotten banned already tho

lunar remnant
dawn badge
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leaded fuel and CFCs for example (which were actually (almost halariously) invented by the same person

forest edge
dawn badge
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if you protect and seal it correctly asbestos is still a great way of creating a fire barrier

forest edge
dawn badge
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with the infomation available at the time, using it everywhere was the obvious choice.

lunar remnant
lunar remnant
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yeah these are great points. unless your in very specific circumstances having it now is not good

lunar remnant
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The real problem IMO is when people discover it and decide the best course of action is to just board/skim over it with plaster and leave it. In the short term that minimises exposure, but the result is that it's even less obvious in future for someone else

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You see that advice ALL the time in DIY and home renovation communities - it's vaguely sensible in the short term but SO selfish and dangerous long term

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I really hate how selfish those people are, they're literally hiding a death trap to save themself a few bucks today

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yeah, the "make it someone elses problem" crowd

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you see that alot in high turn over jobs. "looks good for a while then crashes" means "i look good and by the time it crashes its someone elses fault"

lunar remnant
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Yup exactly. I'd have more sympathy if they at least left it more visible where at least someone in future has a chance of noticing eg the artex walls or the texture ceiling and thinking "Oh, that could be asbestos, I better check"

But when they skim over it to make it look like fresh plaster and physically hide the problem.... wtf is wrong with these people?

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do you blame the person that asked the workmen to do it or the workmen that did it because they wanted to get paid

sage cedar
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Both

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yeah definetly an arguement for that

lunar remnant
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Agreed, definitely both. Although if you held a gun to my head and said I had to pin it on one then I'd say the owner since they're the one who's responsible for the property

sage cedar
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One was an asshole enough to ask for it to be done, the other was a shithead enough not to care as long they got paid for it.

lunar remnant
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There should be some legal requirement to report it at the time when it's discovered, so that it shows up in the paperwork when you buy the house, with a huge penalty for failure to disclose when made aware

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Again, I really can't stress this enough: Mesothelioma is a truly HORRIBLE way to die

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I'd probably take it over rabies, ebola, or radiation poisoning but that's about it and at least those are fairly quick... days or weeks rather than slow agonising months or years

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I guess the issue becomes "were you trained to recognise it?"

sage cedar
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We have asbestos based chips in our attic floor for insulation. It was disclosed and no one tried to cover it up (not my house, I rent... roommate is the home owner). Research says just don't disturb it, ok. But I'd like to wire in ethernet and power to the main living area from above.... pfft.

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And having it replaced via "qualified" options is financially/logistically non optional, so we won't.

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yeah maybe that kind of work should be subsidised to encourage its removal.

umbral cliff
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Most here have no ethanol iirc

static schooner
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Ethanol is how we subsidize farmers πŸ™‚

sage cedar
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What if we stopped subsidising corporate oil/fuel making billions hand over fist and gave it to farmers feeding us? Oh right... economy πŸ™„ .
-# status pro quo

forest edge
trail raven
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Hey, bit out of left field, anyone got a good rain sound mp3 for use with looping in music assistant?

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Or is there like, a sleep sounds integration?

dawn badge
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never used it but theres an addon that does stuff related to background noise stuff

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doesnt really help you find the actual audio files mind

shy plinth
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if you search you can find a link to grab the ones google uses for their voice assistant

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could maybe rip off youtube?

shy plinth
trail raven
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Nice, thanks

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trail raven
shy plinth
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pretty sure that's the one i use to sleep. thunderstorms was a little too interesting

trail raven
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Doh

dawn badge
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grab the samba addon and copy the files over to the share that way

trail raven
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Samba like MS SMB? Not a bad thought, but I am on my android

dawn badge
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you got the terminal addon installed? could wget it

trail raven
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Oh neat

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The voice PE is super fun, but so many rough edges on aliases to get decent behaviour

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its only going to get better

trail raven
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Oh yeah, I am building already a prompt for chatgpt that helps a lot

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But weather for instance, woof

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yeah weather is one that is tough it seems

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i think for things like that MCP is going to be big but it needs time to mature a little

trail raven
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Well that is what I do, multi-agent systems

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But without solid and reliable entities I can describe exhaustively once, not a lot can be done

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But yeah, MCP could help a lot

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Brave new world... has anyone tried openai realtime voice API?

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I have played with it a bit, damn freaky. The gemini realtime voice is easier to integrate tool usage with

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i havent messed around wtih ai that much tbh. i want tor un something locally but need to upgrade the gpu in my server for that

trail raven
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I use the shit out of OAI already, so no reason not to use it for this

tawny flume
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I dream of a cluster of 2 Nvidia H100 but I only have a poor rtx 4070 12gb vram

tawny flume
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I've played around a bit with the local LLM 12b max and LLM Vision, but it's nowhere near the equivalent of online AI. I also use it to search for information in document files, but ideally, I'd like a local LLM that knows everything about my home assistant, including my configuration files, calendars, automations, etc.

trail raven
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So good

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trail raven
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I mean, if you have an OAI account, they do not train on your data

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Whether you believe it or not? Up to you

ocean oar
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Ah hahahahahahaha. Hahhahahaha. Ha. You're a funny guy

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They will be doing absolutely everything they think they'll get away with.

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they all train on anything they can get their hands on

trail raven
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They are even offering me free usage if I share with them

tawny flume
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I will never give my config file and personal agenda to oai

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look at meta being like. we just torrented all the books but its fine cos we didn't seed.
i want to see them argue that and on the other side is the music and film industries argueing the opposite

trail raven
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None of that matters, pandoras box is open

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openai complaining deepseek stole the shit that they stole

trail raven
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Pontificating about "oofff oh the copyrights" while musk and thiel shove LLMs into every corner of government

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"Oh no AI disenfranchises artists" as it is used to create perfect propaganda

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just a reminder that we should drift into politics on this server

trail raven
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Oh sorry, I get worked up about piece of shit hackers dismissing AI for stupid reasons

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i get it

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AI copyright battles will set the scene for what will be one of the biggest copyright battles ever though

ocean oar
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There are more than enough reasons to dismiss AI without sinking to its level.
Its output is low quality (borderline dangerously inaccurate), environmentally ruinous, but everyone wants it because buzzword, even if they don't know what or how they want it to work, or even why.

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Watching people with 20+ years of experience in ML fields telling engineers from Nvidia that to their faces resulted in borderline over-indulgence in the delicious, delicious schadenfreude.

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i think the big copyright battle will be games.

trail raven
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And porn

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But we will see, SaaS disruption is about to get nuts

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I think when people realize how much enterprise software is being written with o3-mini-high it is gonna blow some minds

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games could definetly be seen as work of art. specially the images/audio
currently its in the interest of game devs for people to stream etc... because its publicity
but when a big studio goes bust and some enterprising finance company opts to buy the IP and sue youtube/amazon/every streamer thats ever streamed one of their game. its going to be chaos

trail raven
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I am more concerned with labor impacts

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I created that ealier today for my project

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100% AI generated

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Not the code, the graphic

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I would have paid... 15, 20 bucks on fiverrr to create that? Now, a fun little chatgpt session

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yeah, short term it will have impacts but long term stuff will work itself out

trail raven
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No, it won't. AGI and Capitalism do not mix, no matter how you define AGI

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Capitalism depends on scarcity, and human labor. If you remove either, it falls apart

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Or rather, supplant either

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this is getting a bit heavy for here now

weak musk
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Capitalism falling apart? Where do I sign up?

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But Michael is right.

trail raven
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Lol, yeah, wait until we hook up robots to our home assistants

hoary canyon
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what ever happened to that robot thing ring was making

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or maybe it was the drone thing, I don’t remember

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I know we slowly drifted there and no lines been crossed but we have some common sence limits

trail raven
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Automation has inherent implications, I try and find ways to open hackers eyes to this stuff, but yeah off my soapbox

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I am an active maintainer for ag2.ai

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So I think a lot about ethical guardrailing. May end up relevant for you guys as voice rolls out

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It is super hard to instruct an LLM on what NOT to do, lol

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yeah ai hallucinations and it running away with stuff is an issue. another reason i want to go local. i can burn it down if i want πŸ™‚

trail raven
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Local makes everything way harder and crappier, but I will spin something up just to play with it

wanton ridge
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Anyone with home assistant and hubitat? I have a hubitat but it’s still in the return window seeing if it’s worth keeping. Im running HA through docker on my nas.

forest edge
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if you don't have any real desire to learn HA then those products like hubitat may be better for you. You trade the ability to do far more complex things for easier experience not to mention those things are an all in one and come with built in zigbee/zwave.

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young sigil
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solar zealot
iron granite
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The support channels don't require a role. Just creating a topic and selecting at least one of the tags.

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Oh, it is about the projects channel. That does require the developer role indeed.

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lyric jacinth
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Fine im starting from scratch without using chatgpt

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I am going to use an old laptop and install raspberry pi as a vm

primal laurel
iron granite
deft pewter
robust flicker
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I may try installing a water fountain as a VM soon.

deft pewter
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I'm pretty sure Digital Ocean use water fountains to provision their virtual servers.

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That's where all the droplets come from.

forest edge
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digital ocean is awesome

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SC community board is still hosted on the same droplet for like 15 years now or something lol

simple gazelle
wanton ridge
primal laurel
lunar remnant
robust flicker
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Although, I do have a couple esphome diy things as well, soo.. maybe not ALL of my wifi crap is getting replaced.

lunar remnant
robust flicker
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@lunar remnant is it all that expensive though, when you consider it has zigbee and zwave in it? A decent zwave stick is about 40 bucks, and the zigbee sticks are around that price, too...

primal laurel
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If you're on a budget zwave is not an option

weak musk
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Buy once cry once!

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Buy tuya buy twicea

peak slate
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Buy tuya cry too ya

hoary canyon
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dimmers go on sale for around $20 sometimes

robust flicker
primal laurel
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I cant even buy it here because none of the regular shops seem to stock it

hoary canyon
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It really isn’t way more expensive though. You just have to know where to get it

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If you’re not in the US, I wouldn’t recommend it.

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I just checked all my regular shops. None of them sell zwave. Just a few specialised home automation shops I can find it

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50 euro for a basic light bulb lol

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Light bulbs I’d go zigbee

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but stuff like switches I recommend zwave

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Zwave light bulbs never really took off

primal laurel
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stick to 1 technology. You need the bulbs to create good mesh coverage

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they're always repeaters

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I don’t think it’s good advice overall to stick to one tech, I get the repeater aspect but you can have way more options if you invest in multiple (local) protocols

robust flicker
hoary canyon
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^

iron granite
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Another issue are the different regional frequencies used by Z-Wave. You might not be able to use some cheap device, because it isn't using your frequency.

hoary canyon
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Yeah that’s why I only recommend it in the US

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EU zwave devices are hard to find

primal laurel
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no clue about the whole matter thing though, im not following that at all

solar zealot
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Zigbee? More like slow aah food heating wave

primal laurel
iron granite
trail raven
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So, zigbee is better than thread?

robust flicker
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Zigbee is mature, well defined, and has many more available devices. Thread is newer, rapidly evolving, and doesn't have all that many devices yet.

gusty belfry
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Well thats mildly annoying. HA lets you configure your default voice in the assist menu but choosing Piper under the media tab will always default to US/Amy low.

lunar remnant
lunar remnant
tawny flume
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you can do device customization with zigbee2mqtt, I doubt that's the case with matter

glacial knot
robust flicker
iron granite
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The Multiprotocol functionality will be deprecated in the near future.

hoary canyon
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stuff like light bulbs and certain other things are significantly cheaper on zigbee though so I’d do that at that point

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Lots of existing devices (maybe installed by alarm companies) also utilize zwave which is a benefit since you can reuse them with home assistant

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Locks, Switches etc

hazy gate
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Is there an issue where the external connectivity stops working for some reason at the mo that anyone knows about? Found my external URL not loading today, reboot ha instance seemed to fix but can't find any reference to a known issue

primal laurel
snow stratus
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Can someone help me

static schooner
weak musk
static schooner
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Some devices are only available for one or the other. Which is annoying, because both being mesh networks, you can't just buy that one battery-operated device and expect it to work well.

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Hi, I am confused about how home assistant works with thread and also using Google devices as a thread border router on that network. I have matter server installed so to start with is it even possible to join Google matter devices to the home assistant network instead of the other way around?

static schooner
last cedar
ornate vessel
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What I have read leads me to believe it's not possible and I can only join home assistant to Googles network

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Even just a is this possible post? I'm not prepared to provide detailed setup info at the moment

last cedar
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There is only 1 way to find out!

static schooner
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post what you just wrote 🀷

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there's no support here

last cedar
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only moral support

weak musk
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And even then … ehhhh

last cedar
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YES MATE

sage cedar
last cedar
trail raven
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Support deez nuts

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From when phone operators were picketing against automation, lol

karmic sundial
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#announcements message If anyone has questions about the product or the integration you can just send me a message. I'm thrilled to see that we finally have the partnership with Home Assistant ❀️

red rock
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Congrats!

last cedar
karmic sundial
karmic sundial
last cedar
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Lovely, nice job and congrations!

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I would like to automate some of mine at some point, will have your solution in mind

karmic sundial
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Thank you very much. Great effort from a lot of people like @tall vessel and the people from Eve.

red rock
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I need to look at what I'm going to use in my new place for the windows, not sure yet what I want

karmic sundial
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You have a new place? Congrats πŸŽ‰

red rock
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Yes! In Gouda

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But I still need to renovate a ton of stuff

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A normal human can't live with 6 power sockets in their living room on this day and age

deft pewter
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6 is plenty. Just daisy chain a load of extension cables. Completely safe.

red rock
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I mean, it's a blank canvas now, so I'm going to make sure it's nice

last cedar
red rock
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Also doing some ethernet wires around the place

karmic sundial
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Well just let me know when I can help with blinds or anything

primal laurel
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let me in to your server

last cedar
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It is just local, my son literally spams all the mods that look cool, and sometimes it loads 🀣

iron granite
last cedar
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Our current HA box will be the local server at some point

iron granite
karmic sundial
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Just for testing purposes

iron granite
karmic sundial
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Good name

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Might need to copyright that

iron granite
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I can sell you the royalties.

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Let's say... a 40/60 split?

karmic sundial
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Yeah no problem you came up with the name πŸ˜‚

iron granite
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Or ActiveBlinds. They open automatically at a random time but can only be closed by hand.

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With an additional fitness tracker subscription

primal laurel
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just use this

karmic sundial
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Perfect combined with our blinds indeed

iron granite
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Automatically control your sun...
Do I really have to have my own sun?

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primal laurel
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Just feed hydrogen

iron granite
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Oh damn. I can only produce methane.

karmic sundial
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Perfect with our pull function

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karmic sundial
iron granite
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Great. Now remove the ability to remotely close them. dr_evil

karmic sundial
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Haha for april fools πŸ˜‚

iron granite
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Why that? How are we going to sell it as a fitness device, if people don't have to move?

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Fitness means higher price tag for the same device.

red rock
iron granite
red rock
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Anyway, I should continue packing stuff

karmic sundial
iron granite
primal laurel
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Can you put the sticker on your box now?

crisp oriole
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\o/ my presentation for yet a other project to save the world is finished.
last slide section is how chatgpt thinks about paradise and my plan checks most boxes

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O yea i get a lot of that.

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It doesnt matter. that is the great thing of the plan. In i world of how many humans there just need to be a few in the start.

iron granite
crisp oriole
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Most of the time people say they don't care and then forward there own none creative (I heard them all. (point of view of religious people is really cold))

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no Jorg functional code to track processes in all there truth. perhaps some AI to predict it. and tools like remove your face from images when ever you like.

primal laurel
crisp oriole
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replying with gramar errors is a sign of weakness in my point of view. You correct it so that part of the message is 100% correctly transmitted. Just have not the capability to reply any other way.

primal laurel
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glad to be of service

crisp oriole
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Its all about service

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well i got to move see you in some time perhaps perhaps not. Ψ₯ِنْ شَاَؑ Ω±Ω„Ω„ΩŽΩ‘Ω°Ω‡Ω

deft pewter
iron granite
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πŸ––

deft pewter
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Nanu nanu to you too

crisp oriole
lunar remnant
sage cedar
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Where the hell did #beta go?

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I can get there from that link but it disappears in the sidebar as soon as I leave, what am I missing?

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do you have support expanded?

sage cedar
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Ok, I'm an idiot... I accidentally folded it

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That was it

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πŸ™‚

sage cedar
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Just never noticed it was under support, seems an odd place for it

crisp oriole
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Whoops

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hey folks. This is way off topic, but i need some help. Anyone familiar with blocking website elements in the browser? I broke a website on my computer. 😬

dim drift
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hi

weary bone
# dim drift hi

hi! may I assume you're here to help? πŸ˜† (i'll have to give my Q later... it's my son's bedtime.. brb)

crisp oriole
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Try a html css discord

primal laurel
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Pupper has a new bed. He seems unsure so far πŸ˜‚

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static schooner
dim drift
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has anyone here setup a raspberry pi connection to h.a? I'm trying to use the 'add integration' but it will not connect

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dim drift
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i am in config/integrations/dashboard

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i clicked the blue +add integrations button

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this is not a support channel

dim drift
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I scrolled down to pihole and filled in the ip etc

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weary bone
# dim drift Broke how?

The main feed doesn’t show up anymore. Was trying to block the suggested elements (who to follow, suggested posts, etc).

trail raven
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Is pihole not in the add on store?

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But yeah not support

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Ooohhh adguard home from the community addons looks neat

blissful pulsar
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πŸ‘

ocean oar
blissful zodiac
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I'm having a blast, can't you tell?

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hexed spade
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just noticed the topics got reorganized again, and had to post on MQTT. Given this Is an Open Home protocol of such importance (probably the first amongst the ones that Are mentioned...), maybe list it explicitly in the Channel description @lone dagger ?

iron granite
hexed spade
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I checked but the description there was not very clear on that. It really should be listed under Protocols imho

iron granite
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If it is neither about the integration nor an add-on, I'd go with #1284966617670881350 and the "Other" tag as last resort.

hexed spade
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yes, I picked that indeed, thats why I noticed.

lyric jacinth
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I made it work

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But on my old laptop

primal laurel
silver jungle
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Anybody ever taken power from a light fixture and added USB to it I need to install a mm wave sensor where there is no power convenient to it but my hall light fixture is right there

iron granite
silver jungle
primal laurel
iron granite
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Does it have an occupancy sensor, yet?

crisp oriole
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Btw i tested out the pe. Installation wae one of the smoothest i ever experienced

weak musk
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That’s a sweet picture

solar zealot
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I think this image shows planes and not sweets

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I'm pretty sure

stuck anchor
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from an article on a politicians recent press conference (quoted because of the raccoon content): "and running from the podium with the grace of a raccoon in a porta-potty."

poor raccoon!

deft pewter
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It's pretty amazing that Spitfires could go supersonic and keep up with Concorde.

ebon ore
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Is there a general channel where you can talk about home assistant stuff but not necessarily ask for support? Is it this one?

stuck mortar
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Narrator: it was for support

ebon ore
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I promise it isn't

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I just wanted to share what I did

iron granite
ebon ore
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It's not quite that degree of showing off though, it's just some silly card usage I thought was a bit funny

deft pewter
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It's still self-promotion, and seemingly done without shame

ebon ore
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in that case I am ashamed

stuck mortar
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This channel is just for discussing raccoons stuck in water-based appliances

iron granite
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And nobody feels sorry for the poor sleeping dog, who gets forcefully woken up by turning on the lights out of nowhere?

ebon ore
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the lights don't bother her, but she hates my airbrush air compressor

deft pewter
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Sure, but that's not what 'shameless' or 'ashamed' mean. shrugR

weary bone
robust flicker
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My wife is tired of my shenanigans. She just helped our neighbor chase her goats down and put them back in the fence, and she complains "I'm too old for this shhh" and of course I respond with a video.. "naahhhhhh you're not!"

crisp oriole
last cedar
weak musk
static schooner
civic citrus
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Hmmmm

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Learning how to add matter support in an unraid hosted HA is hard sweating

iron granite
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That's why HAOS is recommended for Matter/Thread. They did a lot of work for their add-ons to get around issues.

civic citrus
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Now to figure out how I make my Unraid docker HA find the Sonoff dongle sweating

primal laurel
weak musk
forest edge
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discord must have seen how long some of the channel names in this server was and decided they need to make a compact mode

primal laurel
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IPO coming

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Are we getting raided by steam giftcard spammers or something?

static schooner
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the spammers need to fulfill their weekly quota of spamming

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the spam ain't gonna spam itself

iron granite
static schooner
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Nobody ever expects the spammish inquisition

robust flicker
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threatens to break out the spam can

woven storm
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I am so happy that Aqara's stuff is finally starting work well with home assistant over Matter, getting updates and such so I can really get everything up to snuff, without the homekit stuff interfering

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Thought I needed thread to get it to work, but apparently not :)

forest edge
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he's here all week, tip jar is at the top

placid raven
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Hello! Didn't know there was an HA Discord server! FroggieYay

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placid raven
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Going to work on adding a water level sensor to my big pedestal humidifier this weekend

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I love the dangerous power of being able to hook anything I can imagine into HA lol

proper crescent
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Hey everyone, I assume the answer will be HA, and that there are support channels, but this is more about a recommendation based on experience, I think HA has gotten good enough for me to be able to configure it either way πŸ˜‰

Are there general recommendatiosn for what to use as a border gateway router in my situation given my existing hardware:

I have an existing Google Smart Display (and a few Google smart speakers) over which I have currently set up my matter network, consisting of: Tado thermostats (currently their own matter network with the tado router/bridge), wild assortment of Matter-over-thread light bulbs, hue lights with their matter integration over their bridge and a lot of random other bits and pieces that don't play into it as they are just for playhing around, but stuff from Aqara, Bosch, etc.etc. Similar number of things on Matter-over-wifi (sonoff switches, motion sensors, ...), and lastly some zigbee sensors.

I recently moved and got myself a ZBT-1 after I got annoyed with my first and second gen Sonoff Zigbee stick, and am running HAOS on a Pi5 right now. But given the move, I'm open to setting everything up from scratch.

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proper crescent
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Already on an ssd, but for sure.

trail raven
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2 more voice PEs on the way. I only had 2 echos, but I want an extra to do dev with

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Getting some false positives, so gonna πŸ•΅β€β™‚οΈ

copper cosmos
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Still not seeing the HA OS 15.0 update on my HA Blue. Was it pulled?

civic citrus
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Im stuck

static schooner
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Like in quicksand?

robust flicker
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Or in the middle with .. us?

sage cedar
primal laurel
civic citrus
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Yeah its wierd

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Passed trough the dongle

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it doesnt showup in HA when I choose the thread router addon

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FML

static schooner
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Try grabbing a tree branch. Maybe you can pull yourself out?

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I guess you're fortunate that you have access to this discord for all the helpful suggestions that you're bound to receive

civic citrus
primal laurel
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how many raccoons does it take to install HA?

civic citrus
robust flicker
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Gd lochness monsta

gusty belfry
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Seagate gave me an exact replcacement of my dead drive, right down to the detail that the new drive is ALSO dead.

primal laurel
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then maybe it's not the drive?

civic citrus
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Interesting

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The dongle runs OpenThread firmware

forest edge
ocean oar
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It's all fun and games until the neighbours call the fire department because they think your house is on fire

blissful zodiac
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Anyone know how to make a template across these and just type in what they want to send instead of having to copy paste it to all of these? Or is this something I have to put in #find-support?

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gusty belfry
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off chance does anyone know the name of these connectors?

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sterile ferry
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No way to differentiate the firmware (at least yet) to say zha or thread… to make it even more confusing at some point there may be an option to run zigbee with the same rcp firmware open thread border router works with.

sage cedar
ocean oar
young sigil
wet oar
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k.

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Is there a channel showing off people's dashboards?

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How we doing tonight?

young sigil
wet oar
young sigil
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if your looking for suggestions based on a specific idea dashboard support can see people post examples. but isnt really a spam channel of dashboards

wet oar
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This is mine which I feel looks good but haven't seen the possibilities

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hoary canyon
lament fulcrum
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so just got my home assistant green plugged into my network. its not seeing any devices on the iot lan on my router. got a g3100 router from verizon. the quantum gateway integration is allowing me to see the devices but doesn't look like I can do anything with them.

is the easiest solution going to be to just get another and connect everything through that?

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oddly though, home assistant did detect my thermostats which are also connected to the iot lan

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wet oar
dawn galleon
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Does anyone here already use their wearos watch with home assistant?

iron granite
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Many do.

dawn galleon
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its been a day with no responses so i wanted to make sure if anyone sees it

steady orchid
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I'm currently in the process of setting up my home assistant green for the first time, wish me luck

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It jumped way up the priority list after notifications from mum hitting the tapo-based 'oh crap help please' button didn't reach my sister or me, so it's time to work out how to get the button to send us both a text message or something asap if mum presses it

crisp oriole
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Lol. My dad (79 years old) wants security cameras. I you need a local server and dont use cloud.

  • I dont want a server
    but you surely dont want cloud?
  • no i dont want a cloud. I want an easy app that works.
    Thats cloud you dont want that. You need a server
  • no i dont want a server
  • cant i use a raspberry pi?
iron granite
dawn galleon
solar zealot
steady orchid
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Use case is a single text to two people in Australia, maybe once per week on average

forest edge
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look into seeing if you can send mms through email

steady orchid
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ok, good to know that's possible

forest edge
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as long as whatever email you use supports it like gmail

steady orchid
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I'm happy to pay a reasonable amount if needed- I'm far more interested in it being rock solid reliable than totally free, since it's a safety feature

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Would that work for both ios and android?

forest edge
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been using it for like 4 years now. not a single issue

steady orchid
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Perfect, great to know.

forest edge
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should be no diffrence between apple/android it's an mms

steady orchid
steady orchid
forest edge
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its free to test

steady orchid
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I already have a gmail set up between my sister and I just for things relating to supporting mum, so that honestly feels ideal, thanks heaps

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this would require my mobile service provider's sms gateway, yeah?

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unfortunately I'm able to confirm my phone service doesn't do that

steady orchid
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Looks like my two options that I can find are to change mobile providers or to use one of the paid services. Dang.

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I have thought about changing before, but it seems I have a pretty good plan and can't swap to one with a gateway available without tripling(!!!) my monthly bill. No thanks.

last cedar
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@clear ferry on a scale from HPE cluster to raspi with sd card, how do you rate this?

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Bare metal opn, server 25 on the blue iris box, and a single ssd in the 4U storage enclose, because I wanted to piss you off

clear ferry
last cedar
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|| it actually has 6x12TB drives in the 846 ||

clear ferry
last cedar
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That bad?

clear ferry
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No it is actually acceptable

last cedar
clear ferry
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Compared to a raspberry pi, ha yellow/blue/green pink or a manure pile at least

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One step up Michelle

last cedar
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Gonna bad blocks those spinny boys now

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Should only take about 46 days

clear ferry
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I see all the shit kids do that

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I have yet to badblock a single drive

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Disk failure only happens if you fear it

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There is nothing to fear but fear itself

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πŸ’Ύ

last cedar
clear ferry
last cedar
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They are ironwolf pros, very quiet at idle

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I just want to burn the box in really, might as well check it properly

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Very reasonable power draw too

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Gone from 106/112W to 168/172W on the UPS

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My current nas is pulling 130W

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So about as much as a single fan in your rack Atx

clear ferry
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Half a fan?

last cedar
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Only fans

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I just upgraded to Plex premium, and didn't hear a trumpet playing in my server rack

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did I do something wrong?

primal laurel
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yeah, should have installed jellyfin for free

stuck anchor
# last cedar Gonna bad blocks those spinny boys now

my recipe for testing drives is to first overwrite the whole drive using dd from /dev/zero. blocks that have been partially written because of a power outage or similar will give s.m.a.r.t errors even if the disk is physically ok. then run a long smart check. and then look at the smart logs.

if a modern-ish s-ata drive starts reporting block errors back to the os instead of remapping it internally it is definitely time to retire it

last cedar
stuck anchor
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i'm old enough to have run disks without internal bad block remapping. you had to check your disks regularly and if there was a new block error track down which file was using it. then remove the file, map out the bad block manually, and restore the damaged file.

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it was part of regular maintenance back then.

last cedar
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@clear ferry I grabbed an XC90 off blocket, is this how yours looks?

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tranquil rain
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what are everyone's favorite zigbee bulbs?

deft pewter
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The switch kind of bulb ||because having a switch in front of a smart bulb is dumb||. Also, #1284966353798697001

weak musk
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there’s more or less stuff visible based on conditions I have baked in

trail raven
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Hah, makes me laugh every time

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Deez nuts πŸ˜‚

tranquil rain
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luckily these will be in lamps that will never be turned off hopefully

robust flicker
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Me, with a switch that powers off the fan and it's attached lights using smart lights to easily turn off just the lights...

trail raven
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Take it next level and put battery smart bulbs in so they work when the fan is turned off πŸ˜‚

scenic jasper
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Dear god.. the Discord post edit box. It's so infuriating with the HOME/END behaviour. How could a developer create that, HOW???
Ayway.. just pumped a question in help section here. If anyone knows how to set timestamps on SAMBA shares hosted on the HomeAssistant please chime in. Thank you πŸ˜›

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I want to rsync to it.

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Kinda weird i can make hardlinks, no issue. But no timestamps. Maybe it's an SAMBA limit o_O

robust flicker
last cedar
glossy nova
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A bit of a late WTH moment, I bought 13 new lights for my living room, luckily grouped in 4 groups, but I just found out that favorite colors are not a global state, but instead stored per light. Is there any way to change the system default favorite colors for all lights? πŸ˜…

primal laurel
crisp oriole
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Mental support is allowed

glossy nova
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haha

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Apologies Stefan, I looked through the support channels, however I did not find one fitting to the question. Happy to move my question elsewhere though πŸ™‚

primal laurel
scenic jasper
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Never apologize.

glossy nova
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Ah, that wasn't on my channel list! Thank you πŸ™‡β€β™‚οΈ

scenic jasper
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pets his speaking backups :P

primal laurel
scenic jasper
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Yeah color of lights.. i made mine orange fopr halloween. Still is orange πŸ™‚

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Just the one at the front door mind you.

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When i get this backup working i will move the USB stick to my dads HA instance. It's remote location. Then i have off-site backup πŸ™‚

last cedar
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Can anyone tell when I fired up the new NAS?

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scenic jasper
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tag

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I think that's Norwegian. Not sure πŸ˜›

last cedar
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Sorry, I wasn't thinking

last cedar
scenic jasper
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i always find swedish more understandable than norwegian.

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I always read the Swedish ingredients when i lived in Finland πŸ™‚

ocean oar
shy plinth
last cedar
last cedar
scenic jasper
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Finnish is a whole different beast

ocean oar
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I went from a big desktop PC with a Xeon E5-1660v4 CPU and 64GB of RAM and an Nvidia GPU to an MS-01 (which is quite happy to have a SAS HBA shoved up it, so long as it's a modern, low-power one).

last cedar
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I am a brit who lives in Sweden, can read but not listen to Norwegian

ocean oar
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The beauty of the external SAS JBOD is the conversion process was "zfs export, move SAS cable to other computer, zfs import"

scenic jasper
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I know gemran dutch and english. I can follow the Swedes and danes pretty well. But Finnish.. wth came up with that πŸ™‚

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(probably the Finnish)

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All Frysian languages i reckon. Like old english

last cedar
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My old ups said the old system pulls around 130W from the wall

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My little power meter said 37W from the wall for the system without disks (new system)

ocean oar
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Just for the PC, probably down from ~120W idle / 300W load to ~20W idle / ~80W load.
Don't have an estimate for the JBOD, but it's full of SSDs so the PSU and fans is probably eating most of it

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One h.265 to h.264 transcode in Plex with that Nvidia card added close to 60W

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Barely moves the needle with the Intel iGPU

last cedar
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New UPS has gone up around 80W though it seems, although the disks are doing a long smart at the moment, not sure if that effects anything, maybe the drives can't park heads or anything

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I was at 176W total for the rack before I started the smart tests

ocean oar
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I don't want to talk about that 😬

last cedar
ocean oar
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I have a LOT of PoE devices, and an enterprise switch that draws quite a bit at idle

last cedar
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I have 5 PoE cams to add at some point, so I guess if I can keep around 200W it isn't too bad

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I got myself a 1930 aruba 48 port switch (not poe), very efficient

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No fans and 4x10gb sfp+

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Unaffordable now though

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Has doubled in price here since I bought it

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I run an 8 port active poe injector from a poe switch 48V PSU, need a 2nd injector

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Or a 16/24 port fanless poe switch of course πŸ™‚

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24 port is probably impossible to find fanless

ocean oar
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I have an Arista 720XP-24ZY4. 16x 2.5Gb/30W ports, 8x 5Gb/60W, 4x 25Gb SFP

last cedar
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That is a monster

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A couple 2.5gb ports could be useful now you mention it

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Got to have high speed wifi whilst you sit on the toilet and contemplate life

ocean oar
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I have three 2.5Gb devices (two being WiFi APs), but I'm using three of the SFPs (although all at 10G, not 25G)

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But I do also have two 802.3bt devices (one class5/45W, one class6/60W) so it's nice to have that option available

last cedar
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The new fancy aps do draw a lot of power too

ocean oar
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That caused us some grief at work.
Bought a pallet load of fancy new WiFi 7 APs, they're class5.
We had three pallets of new switches, which suddenly went from an easy swap-out for EoL switches (basically all in one place), to having to install some EVERYWHERE to be able to power the APs.

last cedar
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Damn

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Keeps you busy anyway! Haha

ocean oar
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Yeah, some tasty weekend overtime for that one

last cedar
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I bet

hot crow
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hey guys i just got my first smart devices, a smart plug and security cam. do i need toget them working with their native apps first, or can i just go straight to homeassistant?

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all icare about is locally with ha

static schooner
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Review the HA integrations that support them

wet oar
weak musk
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Stair lighting, yes.

wet oar
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Ahh, I thought you had collapsing stairs lmfao

ocean oar
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It makes me wonder if anyone is using HA to control a drawbridge over a moat around their house though...

weak musk
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The dream

scenic jasper
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I prefer HA controlled gun turrets

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calm crow
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Has anyones SLZB-06 recently disconnected?

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Can't seem to reconnect but I can connect to slzb webiste via browser

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KEep getting this in the logs

[22:32:47] taskZB | New client: 192.168.1.110 id: 0
[22:32:52] taskZB | Client disconnected, id: 0
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crisp oriole
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Im discussing my presentation with gemini. Not impressive feedback but intresting.

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Apartently i broke down multiple philosophical ideas with 3 pictures

astral slate
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ahahaha i have just spent about an hour trouble shooting stuff to do with my mqtt setup, when my password included a $2
which when put into "" in bash resolves to the second parameter, which is usually nothing
when i set the password using mosquitto_passwd i must have had it in "", a python script i have also had the password in "", but doesn't do shell stuff
so it didn't work
worryingly: i pasted the password the same way from my passwordmanager into home assistants mqtt integration and that thing is happily reading the mqtt stream

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i don't need any help (anymore xD) just wanted to tell someone

ocean oar
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Shell quoting happens to the best of us πŸ˜„

astral slate
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anyone wanna investigate if the mqtt password input does shell quoting?
cause i swear i posted the same password in there that doesn't work because the "proper" password had the $2 quoted out in the passwd

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im kinda done rn xD

ocean oar
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Maybe you used ' instead of " ?

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Because that prevents the shell expanding what's inside

astral slate
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i click my pwmanager entry for hamqtt and that puts it in my clipboard

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i pasted that for the mosquitto_passwd line and for the python script and for the home assistant mqtt integration

ocean oar
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(for non-ambiguity, I meant when you ran mosquito_passwd, if you used single quotes rather than double it wouldn't have expanded the $)

astral slate
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the python script was the one that didn't work until i removed the $2 from the password in my config

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so i know the working password does NOT include the $2

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i have moved on to check if i can get a discord ping when my hob is nearly done OR doesn't have a time set and is going for more than 5 minutes xD

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i like fiddling in shell but i also like automating

calm crow
static schooner
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Yes, you're asking in the wrong channel

calm crow
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Oh was just casually asking

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I'll make a post when I'm on laptop as I'll try gathering all logs

static schooner
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Casually ask in the right channel please

ripe haven
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have you gotten the arc working with conjunction to the Coral on anything, or using each for their own purposes? I'd like to get my arc A750 working to decode / encode for frigate, while the Coral handles inferences. Also wondering if that same split principle can be applied to immich, openwebui, etc. Any advice?

runic cape
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Heating/climate control has got to be the least gimmicky smart feature out there, right

solar zealot
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Don't think so

runic cape
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I do smart home things for fun, but I realize that very little of this is actually meaningfully improving my life

solar zealot
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You may be doing it wrong then

static schooner
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I used to have a pattern of walking around the house turning lights on and off that seems insane to me now

solar zealot
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Things giving you insights into usage or taking over mundane tasks are a great investment into smart devices

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The toaster writing you AI messages on the other hand probably isnt

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runic cape
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I liked getting insights into temp and humidity, but other than that?

solar zealot
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Consumable insights are of great use to me

runic cape
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What are consumable insights

solar zealot
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Electricity, Gas, Water... Those kinda things

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It's the easiest way to become aware of what you are doing, seeing patterns visual, being able to optimize them as wanted

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With the addition to rather easily spot faults

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being able to see problems before they are catastrophic is good

solar zealot
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It's really not about having app control over your lights, at least in my mind

runic cape
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I will say, detecting one leak will quickly pay for the whole set-up

primal laurel
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Still too much human in the loop if you ask me. The real future is fully automated of all the big consumers

solar zealot
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Most if them already are

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Like heating has been pretty much solved for at least three decades

primal laurel
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Not solved πŸ˜…

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Optimization of that part is my day job lol

solar zealot
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I'm really not sure what there would be to optimize

primal laurel
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We've had this conversation already

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I remember it

solar zealot
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Yes

runic cape
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Heating up when you're coming home, surely?

solar zealot
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It's much more complicated like that and involves many details about the house on which strategy may work best

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Yet once set up you don't really need to adjust anything

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primal laurel
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Most systems nowadays use weather compensation with PID control

runic cape
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I don't really need insights into my gas and water usage and such, if there is a leak yes that's great to know, but it doesn't really change my life otherwise

primal laurel
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This part is too low level for home assistant anyway

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It's not fit for the job

runic cape
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If leak, flash bedroom lights

solar zealot
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It's good to know but probably not critical if you do maintenance

runic cape
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For warnings of inefficient heating I can just check my bill, splurging habits I would know if I had them

primal laurel
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Hard to read from your bill. Depends strongly on the weather

solar zealot
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Sounds just like the gambling meme ;D

primal laurel
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Need an installer who knows what they're doing

shy plinth
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wouldn't it be nice to know before it hits your bill? especially if it's something accidental or broken

primal laurel
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In the UK you now have heat geek who teach / train based on the science

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It's working very well

runic cape
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Maybe, but the chances seem so low and the damages of not knowing also

solar zealot
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It's not a question about if but when it will happen

runic cape
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Also, my new (smart) radiator valves warn when a window is detected to be open

primal laurel
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Is it? Could be thousands of euros over a few years. I NL gas for heating is 70% of your total energy consumption. A lot to gain there

shy plinth
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this conversation did remind me i had a monitoring plug doing nothing so i swapped it onto my garage fridge. so it helped me at least

solar zealot
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Wohooo

runic cape
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Over a few years, but the smart stuff only protects from having to wait for the bill

primal laurel
runic cape
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Inefficient how?

primal laurel
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It's a bit much to explain, heat geek made a video on it. Basically the cold rooms get heat from the hotter rooms and so the heating system has to work much harder to keep the temp up in that single room

runic cape
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How could that possibly be worse than wasting my heat on the cold rooms directly

primal laurel
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Because it has to run at higher flow temp which is generally inefficient

runic cape
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already watching B)

primal laurel
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It's true for boilers but it's magnitudes worse for heat pumps

runic cape
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Too bad I can't take 2 identical months and try both approaches

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and compare

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<@&330946878646517761>

golden wing
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Wtf why did I catch a ban

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Is calling spammers/scammers bozos really ban worthy

steady orchid
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At the moment I’m in the stage with home assistant where the basics are set up, but I don’t know what I don’t know which messes with my usual strategy of β€˜google it until I’ve found some instructions’. Anyone got a favourite resource (site, YouTube series, etc.) for increasing my familiarity and understanding, giving examples, demoing the YAML stuff, and generally giving me a launching off point so I can do the things myself?

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I don’t want to put a support request in for every little thing I don’t know how to do yet, when learning some more first would probably fix most of my problems.

static schooner
golden wing
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Ah understandable lol

static schooner
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I unbanned you as quick as I could

runic cape
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primal laurel
runic cape
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but I don't have a heat pump so I'm probably good

primal laurel
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It also applies to boilers in some degree

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More so if you have condensing

runic cape
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Well I really have no easy way to find out, smart features or no, so I will stick with my gamble

runic cape
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To me 21 seems ridiculously warm btw

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Well maybe not ridiculous but. try wearing clothes instead

primal laurel
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One of the houses I monitor is at 25 all day long

runic cape
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I think though, unironically, my main room is being heated mainly by my PC 😬 which is not ideal

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Is it one of those sweat lodges?

primal laurel
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Probably old people

runic cape
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or are they just growing tomatoes in there

primal laurel
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Old people homes have crazy high temperatures

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the room i am in most of the time is pretty toasty by most peoples standards really

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runic cape
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yes

primal laurel
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That's high

runic cape
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If money were no object I would do that and just be naked all day

primal laurel
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19 is perfect for me. Just need warm feet

runic cape
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Do you have floor heating?

primal laurel
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Nope. I rent on the second floor and the landlord is a cheapskate

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its a small ish room with PC with multiple screens in and not great ventilation

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i do want to set up a better ventalation system but not in a position to do alot of perma modifications

primal laurel
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Intel CPU? Lol

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nope its a 5800x3d

primal laurel
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Nice

runic cape
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That is by the way the second least gimmicky thing that my smart home does: monitoring PC power usage

primal laurel
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I got 5950x

runic cape
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I've ALWAYS wanted to know and now I finally do

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I can also confirm that the PC I built to be very power efficient indeed is

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I feel like my heating system should be in the loop on this somehow lol

primal laurel
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PCs should consume no power at all. Just stupid inefficiency

runic cape
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it's a lot like changing weather

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eh even our brains use power and heat up when we think harder

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I feel like we're not escaping that one

primal laurel
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Superconductors

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this is my desk which is mostly the pc

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primal laurel
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Or optics

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can obviously see when screens are on/off

runic cape
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I'm not monitoring my screens, wish I were

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if i am gaming a 3rd level appears

runic cape
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I prefer to refer to it as performing computationally expensive tasks

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πŸ™‚

runic cape
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Actually, I should check to see how compiling compares

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that should be interesting, but no graphics card involved so probably still less

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yeah probably depends on your cpu

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i have been thinking about adding some more tracking to my rack to monitor equipment seperatly

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could split this up a bit πŸ˜›

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torn between a bunch of smart plugs or to get/make a PDU with monitoring built in

unborn merlin
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yeah there's various options. i was thinking about it as a project but then got a bit decision stunlocked and shelved it for now

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currently no UPS either. so if/when redoing the power setup i would probably want to add UPS at the same time too

runic cape
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It would be nice to have a monitor on the strip and a monitor on the PC plug and get the peripherals by subtracting

runic cape
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Oh yeah, I had this thought: what if I just overspecced the radiators in the heated zones

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I say "just" but I realize that would be a bit of an investment

unborn merlin
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unborn merlin
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ups will reaplce the drawer at some point

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late urchin
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is there a place in HA to see a devices IP?

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jaunty yacht
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can you make a non airplay receiver support airplay with home assistant?

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novel juniper
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anyone here already ran the recorder to remove orphaned entities from the database ?

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I have a very weird issue atm : https://community.home-assistant.io/t/lost-all-my-charts-after-cleaning-orphaned-entities-with-spook/871061

Home Assistant Community
Lost all my charts after cleaning orphaned entities with Spook

Hi everyone, I’m reaching out because I’m completely stuck after doing some long-overdue cleanup on my Home Assistant instance. For reasons I still don’t understand, I suddenly ended up with over 43,000 entities in my setup, including nearly 4,000 lights and 4,000 media players. Needless to say, I don’t live in a shopping mall, and some...

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not sure where to discuss this, if a mod knows the chan to head to, I'm all ears πŸ˜‰

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novel juniper
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thanks !

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I linked my forum post, too many chars to copy it directly in the thread, super weird issue.

clear ferry
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Fixed my desk @last cedar , found some nice used speakers

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Also, americans ridiculous outlets will forever be outlussy for me, it feels like this whenever I havd to use such an outlet

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don't be posting neat and organised desk photos you will make me feel bad for the chaos that is mine

clear ferry
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Mine only looks like this 4 minutes per month

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So don't worry

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i gotta do a pass across it soon, its getting more chaotic than usual and i need room for new chaos

umbral cliff
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depends how many half active projects are on the go too

umbral cliff
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2nd desk is mostly full and the top of cupboard cant take much more or it will fall me πŸ˜›

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the auxiliary box has been overflowing since i had to shelve a project after ran into a problem with the laws of physics

umbral cliff
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Ah that stupid thing the laws of physics

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Always getting in the way

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Whoever thought up those laws to stop us πŸ˜›

clear ferry
umbral cliff
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Oh wow a HP printer
Surprised you even tolerate a printer within 1km of you

clear ferry
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Wife needs it, I use it 2 times a year to sign privacy agreements

umbral cliff
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Lol

red rock
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The Ikea container

clear ferry
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Contain me like one of your Swedish girls

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clear ferry
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Gutenberg nacht to you too

iron granite
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robust flicker
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Let's see:; work phone charger, personal phone charger, laptop cord, extra micro USB for the old things that still use it, plus my tiny atom Echo sitting on top, lol.

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Oh, and my charger for my watch.

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"why is it on the wall?" You ask? Well, my cats knock it all between the bed frame and the wall while I'm at work otherwise. πŸ˜ƒ

young sigil
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Get a multi-port charger. Also wtf is a "outlussy"?

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glacial knot
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but which outlet type is big enough to actually fit πŸ†?

robust flicker
young sigil
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Never mind. I looked it up. Stupid kids.

young sigil
glacial knot
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shush

robust flicker
young sigil
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Don't buy garbage then.

robust flicker
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That's the neat part. I didn't buy anything.

young sigil
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Including insurance.

glacial knot
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insurance sort of de-risks the other part though yagaGa

robust flicker
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My homeowner's insurance is $1800 a year.

young sigil
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Less talk, more memes.

robust flicker
young sigil
weak musk
stuck mortar
clear ferry
static schooner
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