#the-water-cooler

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last cedar
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Those for example are used by pharmacies here in Sweden to make sure medicine doesn't go bad

forest edge
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moar filamet?

hushed harbor
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That is pretty important! 🙂

last cedar
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Lots of the ventillation systems use modbus as well, for monitoring

last cedar
grand vortex
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KNX

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it is not entirely open (there's a paid software for commissioning) but you can get a free license by going through their course with some limitations

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but anyone can make knx devices

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big ecosystem

hushed harbor
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thank you

primal laurel
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<@&330946878646517761>

keen bridge
robust flicker
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So I broke down and bought a 8gb pi5 kit and an A2 sdcard... Right now I'm running HA on a laptop with a non-ryzen AMD E2-6110.. the thing was under 300 bucks when I bought it, and it's been upgraded.over the years to 16GB of ram, and an SSD... But cpu pegs when I try to use Assist locally (piper/faster-whisper) ... Ugh. Wish me luck that all my configs just restore from backups like they're supposed to. 🤣

hushed harbor
robust flicker
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I may eventually switch to a nuc, but I also want a pi for other things .. I've never actually fooled around with one before, and now that I have a little bit of money to toss around...

hushed harbor
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I wonder if HA can make use of a local AI running on a GPU?

robust flicker
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And a LOT more time for "fiddling" as well, since I quit driving trucks back in July, and now work for a county government's electronics department.

hushed harbor
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You must have amazing patients driving a truck.

last cedar
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You do you, but it normally fiddlers outgrow the pi quickly 🙂

robust flicker
hushed harbor
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PI used to be great on power draw but NUCs at idle hardly use anything today.

last cedar
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I am a lover of elitedesks personally, but I do have the first i3 3317 (was it?) nucs

robust flicker
last cedar
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Might have been a 3217u? Hmm

robust flicker
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So I figured, start with one of the most well known pieces of kit first.

last cedar
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Yes, the most important thing is that you are happy with what you have 🙂

robust flicker
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I wanted a cheap micro PC, but just couldn't justify a $300 price tag for a hobby investment.

forest edge
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nothing wrong with a pi as a HA backbone. if you go around messing with cctv or this voice shit you can always put those on a remote pc downn the road

last cedar
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I run 3 elitedesk machines that didn't cost a lot more than that

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Saying that, raspberry pis are not cheap anymore

hushed harbor
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I'm running on a old desktop from work, i5 6500 does not break a sweat ever. Free.

robust flicker
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Yeah. I noticed. Our department has a LOT of SFF elitedesks in use, cameras. Locking/intercom/lighting control boards..

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We were looking to source some new ones that'd be able to handle 4 displays at once and it wound up being cheaper to just buy 4 smaller micro PCs for each monitor, then use Multiplicity to link em all up.

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When each monitor is showing up to 9 rtsp camera feeds at once, trying to put 4 monitors onto one machine wouldve taken a very powerful, and expensive, system.

hushed harbor
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Curious.

robust flicker
hushed harbor
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Interesting, a modest card should handle 4 monitors pretty easy.

last cedar
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Probably means you also need larger machines with higher wattage psus etc

robust flicker
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It's not just the display, it also needed to handle all those incoming streams, too

last cedar
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3 screens seems about the limit for using usb c docks right?

forest edge
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video is resource instesive

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multiple monitors, many videos

robust flicker
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So instead of dropping 2k to 3k per system, we spent 400x4.. so 1600 in its place.

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Plus, we're pretty locked into Pelco for our system... And their camera management is built on top of Java. (??!) Ugh lol

hushed harbor
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We started using a camera system by spot ai, amazing what it knows, can identify and tell us about movement, accidents, near accidents and so on. Has cut down tremendously on in person monitoring of many cameras.

robust flicker
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We're trying to get approval to hire a contractor to switch us and update a bunch of stuff. But.. government efficiency. 🤣

robust flicker
hushed harbor
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Understood, you still can do that, but it will tell you if a gate is open, someone is in an area they should not be, recognize their face or what they are wearing and follow them across cameras.

robust flicker
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Our locking and control system does that already.

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It's on a separate system, intentionally. The only integration between the two is, it can automatically stream a rtsp when a door or intercom is activated.

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Doors simply do not open unless opened by a correctional officer. There's absolutely no way we could get approval for automatic facial recognition for that. Not secure enough.

robust flicker
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The aforementioned CO might be sitting at a monitor 200m away from the door, but the camera pops up, they hit the button to open the door. The system records who opened the door. So if there was an issue, it falls onto the CO, not the system.

hushed harbor
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I think being able to track a person though the facility guard or inmate would be great, sometimes people start doing little things to push the limits and could be detected ahead of time before something bad happens.

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But hey, regulations are there for a reason!

robust flicker
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We have more in the way of storage than actual network switches in our camera room. Each unit has 12 6TB HDDs. There are approximately 20 of those units. It's getting recorded.

hushed harbor
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how much history are you required to keep?

robust flicker
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30days is the minimum, and housing area videos are kept for up to 4 years.

hushed harbor
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all on continuous recording or object detected recording?

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That is a lot, 4 years

robust flicker
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Depends on the camera. We have both types set up.

hushed harbor
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Where are those 4 year recordings kept?

robust flicker
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And yeah, it is. They've had this current system for about 7 years now, and have added storage 3 or 4 times since.

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In house

hushed harbor
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Damn so they are at risk of fire or water damage. Some local physical disaster

robust flicker
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IT handles all that tho. My department keeps cameras operational.

hushed harbor
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I miss large optical discs for archiving. They did not keep pace. Sony has a 5.2gb disc but the writer and discs are expensive AF. ashame.

robust flicker
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Oh, there's gobs of safety equipment in and around this room. Fire equipment is tested monthly. This room has a completely separate fire alarm from the rest of the jail. Fire walls (the literal kind) everywhere

hushed harbor
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Well it was nice learning about the jail system 🙂

robust flicker
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Yeah, I applied for the job kinda on a whim. I have some electronic background, I'd worked for catv and telephone companies before, and I have an associates in electronics as well, but I got that decades ago, and couldn't find a decent paying job that used it in my area so went trucking.. saw the job, applied.. 2 months later I'm doing it. I turn 49 in August.. so . It's never too late for a career change!

hushed harbor
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Where I'm at truck drivers are still a premium right now. Ours actually delivery product as well as drive and keeping them is tough at times. Lots of competition

robust flicker
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Kinda why I went back to school for the electronics stuff, because that ended my shipyard work.

hushed harbor
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oh shit.

robust flicker
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Yeah, that's exactly what I said when it happened. 😂

hushed harbor
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ah, first thing that came to mind.

robust flicker
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My next words were to a coworker who grabbed the plate to try to pull off me were "goddammit, if you try and fail, dropping it on me again, I'm gonna beat the shit out of you, get the crane, dumbass."

forest edge
hushed harbor
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Don't think you can shake off 650lbs of anything

robust flicker
hushed harbor
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finally! was searching around for copper network cabling that can break the 100m barrier someone told me about a year ago. Finally found it

robust flicker
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Broke my pelvis on both sides of my spine, and a hairline crack in L2. The Ortho straight up told me that if I hadn't been so young, I probably wouldn't be walking today. I was like 21 when it happened.

hushed harbor
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good grief

robust flicker
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In a bed for several weeks, then a wheelchair for a couple more, a walker. The accident was Valentine's Day, 1998, I took my first steps again April 28th of the same year.

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"6 months bed rest" "my ass"

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But enough about my past miseries. I have enough of them to worry about today, after all! 😂

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Gonna go make the wife and I some lunch. Bbl

forest edge
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make sure you add some vitamin c

clear ferry
blissful zodiac
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I'll take some Florida Man 😂

forest edge
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Been watching The Rig on prime. scottish accents so thick I can only understand half of everything spoken

clever solstice
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studio code server missing for anyone else? not in my sidebar anymore

silk flower
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im running Piper on a local server and it of course has a lot more power than my Pi3B+
But even if I use HA or my local Piper, it takes a good 5 seconds (sometimes more) before I get the audio response of whatever task it completed.

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i feel like that shouldn't be a thing with actual gaming level components that my server is built on (albeit, gaming from like 6 years ago, but still way better than a 3B+...lol)

silk flower
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oh, i just added GPU support to the container. i think that may have helped

sage cedar
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When you finish and fully test a new amazing automation that conflicts with an older amazing automation that you'd forgotten about because it works amazing enough not to be noticed...

forest solstice
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I was wondering why my HomeAssistant host was using 100GB in 48 hours

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After looking at the graph I figured it out

deft pewter
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Nice. An x axis.

forest solstice
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Just something occurring every hour using a ton of network resources

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It was speedtest

deft pewter
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Damn. That's a lot of data per test!

forest solstice
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Assuming it runs for 2 seconds at my full download speed of 1Gbps 48 times over 48 hours

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That's 96GB of data usage

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Glad I don't have a data cap

stuck mortar
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I should probably not run that hourly speed test from my nas… on symmetric 10Gbit fiber

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Oops 20GB each time. Glad I only had that on for a few hours so far

dawn moth
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Hey all, what's the best budget smart lock for home assistant?

Preferably zigbee but I doubt I'll find it, so zwave or wifi will do

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Like around 100 dollars is what I'm hoping, but there's so much ewaste on Amazon, I'm scared to jump in

primal laurel
forest edge
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Found a Google hub max on clearance at NFM

mighty rose
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fuck yeah - custom zigbee firmware for my light switches that is waaaaaaay better than manufacturer firmware 🙂

dawn moth
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How ya do that?

ocean oar
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You just switch it 😉

blissful zodiac
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Ah yes, the Please Note because End Users of this thing are very silly.

mighty rose
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I wish there was a way in ZHA to query zigbee devices for firmware updates

wild grove
blissful zodiac
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Even though half of them are Military.

ocean oar
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My partner is the same. I say "go north on blahblah street" and every damn time the response is that "no-one knows which way is north" 😢

blissful zodiac
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I just throw them coordinates if I want them to suffer.

wild grove
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could be some fun to put the ordinals on the walls 🙂 or a compass like a ship.

ocean oar
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I feel like even for non-military types, not wanting to repeat yourself and unambiguous communication is learned behaviour.
I've read too many serial numbers out over the phone to tech support in my IT career that the NATO phonetic alphabet is second nature

wild grove
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North, Not North, East, Not East

blissful zodiac
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"No Sensor"
Thanks Captain Obvious.

long elm
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Impressed by HA so far. I just came from Homebridge. I’m finding I’m using HA just like HB but I’m dying to learn more. There’s so much untapped potential here.

blissful zodiac
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Anyone automate the tile colours for states?

sage cedar
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8

blissful zodiac
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Had to add the please note because people are silly.

forest edge
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that one person was a bot?

blissful zodiac
dawn badge
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maybe you should solve the other way and make them camera feeds

static schooner
forest edge
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ah

blissful zodiac
dawn badge
blissful zodiac
forest edge
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that's why you use room icons instead of camera images

blissful zodiac
forest edge
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well same diff lol

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no confusion when you use icons rather than images as per your comment about about needing the note

blissful zodiac
forest edge
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exactly

blissful zodiac
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Wait, did I report about Tuya being broken for me?
Give me a sec.

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No, I haven't.
I'll be back.

blissful zodiac
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Didn't see it and I had a draft.

forest edge
blissful zodiac
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I hate the demonstration effect.

blissful zodiac
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And the plug is dead again.

forest edge
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those are what I call gimmick sensors. i mean really why does a microwave need to be in HA? lol

forest edge
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some shelly stuff is going to support lora

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thats crazy

clear ferry
ocean oar
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Our microwave is just high enough off the floor that anyone old enough to reach it should be old enough to operate it 😉

clear ferry
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Ours used to be 50cm off the floor in the old house

ocean oar
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The cubby for the microwave in this house is around 1.5m up

primal laurel
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Try microwaving an egg

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It's faster

clear ferry
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My grandmother did that in 1989, I'm still suffering PTSD

clear ferry
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You have me

glacial knot
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are you going to paint it as well?

iron granite
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Raccoon Hammer 40k

clear ferry
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God Racoon Of Earth

robust flicker
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Wrong channel. My bad.

long elm
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Is this the place for questions?

long elm
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Ok. Can you point me in the right direction?

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I sont see any other channels that seek appropriate. Maybe I’m overlooking it

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Don’t have access to whatever you linked

primal laurel
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wrong support

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but it's support

long elm
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I found the appropriate place. Thanks!

last cedar
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The only sort of support you can get in here is moral support

robust flicker
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Well damn. And here I am needing immoral support....

last cedar
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I technically can raccoon shitpost there too, as raccoons can be both in home and gardens @warm helm

primal laurel
robust flicker
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Wife "Why do you have to be a smartass every time I tell you something, can't you just offer moral support or something?"
Me: "But I don't know the first thing about mushrooms..."

Anyone have a couch I can crash on tonight? 🤣

silent doveBOT
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tidal bronze
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@forest edge you safe?

weak musk
glacial knot
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quad's from US's wildfire central though

forest edge
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he wasn't going to pass up on the ultra rare opportunity to ask me what I get to ask him all the time lol

forest edge
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that's an abomination in my opinion

ocean oar
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As long as we can all get together to rage against the people who have the microwave on top of the fridge

forest edge
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must be a short fridge

ocean oar
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No, just backwater savages

solar zealot
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thats what happens if you dont drink your choco milk

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you get short legs and cant reach the microwave ontop of the fridge

primal laurel
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where else would the microwave be

ocean oar
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Above the cooktop (USAnians, specifically, who can buy a combination microwave/extractor fan unit), or literally anywhere as there's usually a microwave-shaped cupboard (with no door) for it with a power socket in the back. At least there has been in every house I've ever lived in.

forest edge
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we looked at the "new" over the oven microwaves last night at NFM that had the air frying abilities.. that is crazy how much space inside the oven you lose by adding that ability. when you opened the microwave door which are generally the overall size of the whole unit and see this pocket size opening to actually put your food

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it was crazy

ocean oar
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We have a non-turntable microwave, those always seem a bit small on the inside too.
To be fair there is still a rotating thing to "stir" the microwaves, they just hid it from you under the floor.
But you can heat irregularly-shaped objects without them banging against the sides, so that's fun?

forest edge
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I saw some samsung one that talked about that. showed there was no turn table but was suppose to be able to heat the stuff the same way without it

ocean oar
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Mine's a Panasonic

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Only pictures I've ever been able to find... there's that weird irregularly-shaped metal disc under the floor. Turns the energy rather than the food

forest edge
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weird

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that almost does not seem as effective

static schooner
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Seems like you'd need a step stool to get to it

forest edge
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I pictured one of those dorm fridges off the bat

weak musk
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That’s where we want ours because we hate using it so much.

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Like we use it once a month. It can be out of the way

forest edge
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hate using a microwave? what sacrilege is this

clear ferry
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This used to be 50cm off the floor

weak musk
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They are so awful.

clear ferry
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Replacing it with a Bosch Combi oven / microwave now

hoary canyon
forest edge
clear ferry
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Now it is 180cm off the ground

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Getting the combo unit tomorrow

forest edge
hoary canyon
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Our Whirlpool literally will fully crash and restart the whole unit. Insanity

hoary canyon
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So don’t have the air frying

forest edge
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how well does it work aside from serious lack of cooking space lol

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oh

clear ferry
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Whirlpool is utter shit quality in my experience

hoary canyon
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^

clear ferry
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Anything from the Bosch Siemens alliance is great

hoary canyon
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yes all of our whirlpool stuff is having issues that was installed from the builder

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dishwasher is literally rusting by the vent

weak musk
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Bosch is excellent

forest edge
hoary canyon
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Avoid Samsung as well for appliances

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LG / Bosch would be my go tos

forest edge
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even LG is shit but would still go LG over samsung

hoary canyon
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LG isn’t amazing but they’re decent for the price and features

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warranty saved our ass one time lol

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we have one of those Instaview fridges

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the tap to light up the inside never gets used.. so don’t waste your money on one unless you want the door shelf

forest edge
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we have an air fryer, toaster oven ad microwave. would have loved to condense those down but these new microwaves are stupid in how much space inside you lose inside

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and the counter top variants are an absolute joke.. like you could fit a single slice of bread in at a time

hoary canyon
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can see the rust here

forest edge
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I think bosch is in the process of buying whirlpool

hoary canyon
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Probably will just discontinue them if so 🤣

forest edge
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I doubt it. whirlpool is an old name

hoary canyon
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I know, but their reputation is already down the gutter nowadays I’d say

forest edge
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people are use to seeing 50 whilpools in the store to every one bosch appliance

hoary canyon
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I guess it could be their budget brand

forest edge
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don't even see as much of the other bosch stuff either anymore. use to see a ton of bosch tools etc

forest edge
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ah

clear ferry
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The main oven has airfrying integrated, which is nice

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And it is connected to HA

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New combo will also be HA integrated

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And I have a new 80cm induction top that also has wifi

forest edge
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I don't get the point of that lol

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at some point "added features" just becomes something that gives out sooner

clear ferry
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Have yet to have a "smart" appliance give our on me, and the Bosch washing machine i have is 7 years old, which is longer than most people keep appliances around

forest edge
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I disagree with that

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7 years should not be the lifespan lol

clear ferry
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It isn't, but people replace appliances ridiculously often

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The oven and tops I'm replacing currently are 12 years old

forest edge
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our old washing machine (which still worked fine before we replaced it) was every bit of close to 30+ years old

forest edge
robust flicker
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This people right here only replace appliances like that when the old one no longer works properly.

clear ferry
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I'm not disagreeing

forest edge
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it's no wonder these manufactures are making stuff shitter lol

clear ferry
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At least I sell mine when I replace them, so someone can have them

robust flicker
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I'm using a newish ge smart washer (4 years old I think) alongside a dryer that we got when we got married 22 years ago. Only replaced the washer because the balancing springs were all rusted out

primal laurel
clear ferry
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Depends on country

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When electricity is free for example

primal laurel
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you're still in the EU

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what happens when electricity is no longer free? you all go bankrupt bc you build stupid shit? lol

clear ferry
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We are not part of EU no

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EEA though

primal laurel
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you buy your stuff here

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its all the same stuff

clear ferry
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Except, usually it isn't, because a lot of stuff has Nordic editions, because of arctic climate, so actually a lot of our stuff is different and tailor made

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Heat pumps, outside hardware etc

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And cars

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And we are 100% self reliant on power

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We actually have to spend power because we have too much of it in the north

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So they empty the water magazines often

primal laurel
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heat pumps are very simple, there is no 'nordic' heat pump. It's just that you have mostly A2A systems and we have mostly A2W

clear ferry
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Stuff has to withstand -30c plus wind

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Which doesn't happen in Holland

forest edge
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Viking Appliances lul

clear ferry
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Fun fact that I've probably repeated, our data centers can run on air to air cooling 360 days of the year

primal laurel
forest edge
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one emp away from you all going extinct lol

minor nexus
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what is air to air cooling and what about the other five days of the year

clear ferry
red rock
clear ferry
blissful zodiac
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I wish I could use Alexa Media Player again.

minor nexus
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and just like that a wild Joost appeared

red rock
clear ferry
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When you have 2x80A 3ph per rack cooling go brrrrrr

forest edge
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Norwegians are going to be like the Mayan's. going to just go poof mysteriously

red rock
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I did buy an Echo specifically to get rid of AMP

blissful zodiac
red rock
clear ferry
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Joost is a #1 dutch compared to the #150 stefan

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Can we have more joosts

red rock
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hell no

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I already can't handle myself

clear ferry
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I'll joost the server

minor nexus
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I don't rank the dutch, too much controversy with the rankings

blissful zodiac
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You can see the Echo Dot Motion which is just a virtual switch that the Echo controls when it sees motion.

red rock
clear ferry
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Stroopwaffle me like one of your dutch girls

primal laurel
minor nexus
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calling them frying snacks is the warcrime

blissful zodiac
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And these are the only automations that Amazon gets.

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All it does is toggle a switch through Emulated Hue.

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Then I used a template to make it a binary sensor for the Alarm System and for automations.

normal moon
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Ugh, lights lost power but HA system did not, now lights are "Unavailable", even when I restart the HA and power cycle the lights. Is there a graceful way to fix this short of deleting and re-adding the lights?

solar zealot
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depends but there is no support in here

forest edge
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having patience

normal moon
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I acknowledge the lack of support in here; was more looking for the patience line, or a pointer to a specific support channel for incident-related stuff like this.

forest edge
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if you have bulbs that don't reconnect to whatever network you have them setup on it isn't an issue with HA but with your network

solar zealot
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this mostly just relates to the integration of your lights more than it would be hardware related

normal moon
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Further examination shows that it's not just HA that can't see them -- Apple Home can't either, and the Nanoleaf app doesn't see them either. They do turn on and off, though, with the wall switch.

primal laurel
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That's a lot of support talk for a non support channel

normal moon
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That's just me offering closure to anyone who was waiting for an update.

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Not asking anyone to actually do anything.

primal laurel
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You have to pay the raccoon tax

arctic cobalt
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omg so cute

iron granite
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Mission Impossicoon

last cedar
deft pewter
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That was a really strange video. I don't think I've ever seen anything like it. Like... most of the crowd weren't recording on their phones!

solar zealot
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ai fake

stiff lion
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nope, a real artist

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there are more clips from him, and longer

young sigil
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"artist"

stiff lion
young sigil
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The real question is "would I do it?"

stiff lion
glacial knot
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It's certainly skillful
But cannot help the lack of music taste rooKek

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Why would it matter though?

deft pewter
deft pewter
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I might have to dig my old juggling stuff out of the garage...

deft pewter
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You mean I'm clown enough without? ThinkSpin

lone dagger
static schooner
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I moved my Zigbee network from channel 20 to 25 over the weekend and now I'm able to reliably control the lock on my garage side door 🎉

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I think I tried 25 a while ago with m old Sonoff coordinator and isn't wasn't as good, but looks great now with my Tubeszb PoE coordinator. And it was as easy as changing the channel in the Z2M config 🪄

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I also discovered that most of my cheap Tuya Zigbee door/window sensors are dead - no sign of life, even when I try to factory reset them. Oh well

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they worked well when I first got them a year ago, but seem to have rotted

robust flicker
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Was haos 15 supposed to be ready?

lone dagger
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I believe so, it just moved out of RC.

iron granite
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Obviously. It has been released as stable.

robust flicker
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@iron granite well, HA docker instance isn't running on my system after the update.. reverting to 14.2 brings it back up... So...

iron granite
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What do you mean by HA docker instance?

lone dagger
robust flicker
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Yep.. that's where I should also be talking about it I guess.

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# docker stats shows only supervisor and observer running.

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Ugh

sage cedar
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And this is why I read the forums...

solar zealot
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works for me Giggle

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but i also have backups™️

lone dagger
iron granite
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Crossposting??? panik shksBonk pikachuKnife

robust flicker
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I mean, I just selected the other boot slot in grub, and other than taking longer to be accessible than I feel like it should, it came up. On 14.2 heh

lone dagger
primal laurel
static schooner
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No rules for you!

lone dagger
primal laurel
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did you just... jesus quote me?

lone dagger
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Full details of the server updates - 2025 March

grizzled gull
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hmmmmmmmmm

lone dagger
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Forwarding because...it won't let me publish and I think that's because I did a reply lol.

keen bridge
#

The server has changed! The end is nigh! /s

lone dagger
#

Time to log off.

ocean oar
#

Just kidding, the Home Assistant integration will deal to that for you 😉

spare vault
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Do you know if there was some regression in the Mqtt discovery with the latest ha?

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My lights aren't recognized as RGB, it worked before the update.

static schooner
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You posted that already in the right place

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Please don't cross post

silk flower
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if i were to upgrade to a Pi5 from a Pi3B+, do all i need is a backup and the same zigbee controller for it to just pick up my devices after i restore the backup, or am I going to lose all that?

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(provided the IP of the device is also the same, which I would force in my router)

static schooner
silk flower
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that's a forum. which is for what I would think is an issue I'm having with documentation of the problem.
this is a hypothetical where I have no problems I am just curious if, under ideal situations, that HA is supposed to be able to recognize that or not.

static schooner
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That's a distinction without a difference

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This isn't a support or general hypothetical musing channel

echo hemlock
#

thank goodness I seem to have a backup

grand mist
#

you guys have any thoughts on tubez vs smlight?

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trying to figure out which is the best zigbee coordinator for me, considering I am running HA as a docker on a hypervisor I am leaning towards a POE model instead of usb since it will be much easier to pass the IP vs passing a usb device to the app.

sterile ferry
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I do lol

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🙈

static schooner
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Zigbee + recommendations tags

forest edge
civic osprey
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is there any 3rd party addons i can use to run VMs?

I have hass OS running bare metal on my server.

atomic delta
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Welp, learned not to immediately install every HA update. Currently don't have physical access to my Pi5 and it's uh... not responsive.

normal moon
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I’ve seen reports of that hitting HAOS folks, but haven’t heard anyone report an issue with the container version.

atomic delta
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Well, it was an OS update. It would be weird if it hit something other than the OS.

hoary canyon
atomic delta
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Might be worth pulling the HAOS 15.0 update if it's causing this many catastrophic failures.

civic osprey
#

i had it in fedora with kvm+cockpit, i was fedup with the VMs sometimes simply not starting up with the os for some reason.

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this was like almost 2 years ago.

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then i installed hass on bare metal, which has been SOLID very fast, very reliable, I aprove.

i manages to do a lot with id with addons alone, but now i need a windows vm , and cant get around it.

blissful zodiac
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mmm, Badges

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The Visibility feature is underrated.

latent lagoon
#

honk

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how everyone

forest edge
#

south african researches eating each other in the antarctic wtf

solar zealot
#

what

deft pewter
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A group of scientists trapped in an Antarctic research base have pleaded to be rescued after claiming a team member threatened to kill another colleague.
No eating of people anywhere.

young sigil
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The station leader at the Argentinian Almirante Brown Station burnt it to the ground because he did not want to stay another winter.

deft pewter
desert cave
primal laurel
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fox news

low totem
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blob_cat_lurking if I have a really dumb pie in the sky idea and I wanna see if someone's done something close... where I go to ask? blob_cat_lurking

young sigil
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Dumb idea about what?

low totem
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I wanna make addons work in kubernetes

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for some definition of "work"

deft pewter
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Kubernetes is overkill for something that requires a single container. Just use Docker like a sane person.

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Addons are just Docker containers with a sprinkling of magic to auto-wire them into HAOS.

low totem
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a) who said I was sane lol
b) the magic is the important part!

deft pewter
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Well you're missing the magic by not using HAOS shrugR

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To be clear, I prefer the non OS version and run my own stuff in containers... but by doing so, I accept that I have to do stuff like expose ports manually to get things working together.

solar zealot
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The joy of running completely bloated management to run containers with a scale of one ;D

low totem
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I'm not asking for support to be clear; I'm saying I want to figure out a way to make the magic work

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Because I can shrug

deft pewter
low totem
#

It sounds like no one else has been silly enough to pursue this

deft pewter
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Just look at how other 'addons' have been run as Docker containers and you're almost there (minus the stupid bloat that k8s puts over the top). You might find answers in #1284965172053807145 or over on the web forums.

solar zealot
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Some people have from what I've heard but it's really either the addon image or whatever software in a regular container

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There isnt really special sauce to it

low totem
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oh that part is easy. What's not easy is that only supervised and haos have the ingress proxy that allows addons to be gated by home assistant auth

solar zealot
#

Can always roll out your own or pusht them into similar network structures

low totem
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Yup

deft pewter
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the ingress proxy that allows addons to be gated by home assistant auth
This bit is pretty much totally unnecessary. I don't get why people want to run all kinds of other software within HA. Just put them on their own subdomains and access them directly. If you want auth in front of them, do that yourself.

low totem
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I've run homeassistant as HAOS, in docker, and now in kubernetes, and I had opinions and saw drawbacks or benefits to each (HAOS issues were related to a bad pi I eventually figured out). I'm running a home kubernetes cluster for other reasons, and prefer one container management solution. While I can hack together a solution for securing the addons, I just think it's a fun project to get a solution closer to the experience with HAOS or supervised within the setup I currently have.

I don't get why people want to run all kinds of other software within HA

Because software like music assistant is meant to be, and then tools like esphome are equally context dependent shrug

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Anyway, thanks for the input, I got the answer I needed pikathumbsup

primal laurel
deft pewter
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Sure. And it's nice to have an easy mode for people that don't know better.

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But putting everything inside HAOS means that when HAOS goes down, so does everything else. Meanwhile, I'm here not giving a damn when a single container breaks 😂

primal laurel
primal laurel
deft pewter
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completely the wrong way to look at it. It's convenience
lol? You're telling me that my view of it being 'easy mode' is wrong because it's about 'convenience'? You're just using another word to say the same thing.

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HAOS is there for the 'beginners' that don't know/care enough about setting up the individual parts. They want an appliance.

primal laurel
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I think you have tunnel vision because you work with this stuff too much

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Like most of the networking people here btw

deft pewter
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lol, okay then

solar zealot
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this better be giving you the ~ waking up at 4am to terraform provision local infrastructure at your home datacenter because prices for electricity are low ~ kinda vibes that cloud providers don't want you to know about

deft pewter
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But if someone comes in here with an understanding of k8s, they're not in need of easy mode. So my opinion that putting everything within HAOS is dumb still stands.

primal laurel
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calling it easy mode, beginner mode or whatever is doing it a big disservice... if you can't acknowledge that there are good reasons to choose HAOS even if you're an expert you suffer from tunnel vision and you should come back to the real world

deft pewter
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I'm starting to see why you're such a fan of easy mode 🤣

primal laurel
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oh please explain

low totem
primal laurel
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all the networking people here should read this blog by frenck, in detail. Fuckign study it 😂

low totem
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||But at least I'm self aware Clown_Sigh||

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"Don't use kubernetes it's bloat and overkill" "haos is easy mode" Ahhhh, the old "there is only one true way" noted

deft pewter
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Who said there's only one true way? I missed that.

low totem
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Said? no. Strongly implied? Yes

primal laurel
stuck mortar
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Computers are my job. It shouldn’t be a a job to flip a light switch

low totem
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You have to do the arcane rite to flip the switch

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blood sacrifice optional

deft pewter
stuck mortar
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No I have the computer do it for me in haos. Why would I want to spin up a container for it. Too much work

deft pewter
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And you're right. There's no 'one true way'. But there's often a 'best way for given circumstances'

primal laurel
low totem
glacial knot
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My condolences

low totem
#

Same 😛

glacial knot
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Is your home setup HA?

low totem
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how HA Hmm

glacial knot
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At least 1 arbitrary node downtime resilient

low totem
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Yes

stuck mortar
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My lights are resilient. It’s called using the switch

deft pewter
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What, no multi-AZ to spin up a new house when the main AZ house burns down?

low totem
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Not yet.... not yet.

stuck mortar
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Remote control down? “Hey kiddo, turn on that light please”

primal laurel
#

you need one of these

low totem
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It's a 3 node cluster with each node acting as a control plane as well, but one of the nodes is also host to all persistent volumes courtesy of nfs, so if it goes down, some of my workloads get unhappy. And homeassistant lives on a different node that has my zigbee radio attached to it. Clearly I need to attach a zigbee radio to each node and set up a clustered storage for most of my persistent volumes NODDERS because nothing says "totally not overkill" like "buying things in triplicate" kek

low totem
# primal laurel you need one of these

"So we realized that we were passing dvi over usb-c and that dvi is just an extension of VGA and that vga had this smart idea of captive screws so now we have vga screws in our dvi over usb-c"

glacial knot
low totem
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ceph? Now we REALLY overkill kek

glacial knot
stuck mortar
#

Skipping right past the first part of that statement

peak slate
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Poe zigbee dongle

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That way it's not tied to a specific physical machine

primal laurel
#

ah yes. More useless networking in between. Great ponder

peak slate
primal laurel
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TTE?

peak slate
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Time triggered Ethernet

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I don't think zigbee should go over the best effort vl, it deserves the proper critical data vl to guarantee delivery in a predetermined time period

low totem
peak slate
low totem
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lolol

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of course

peak slate
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Though then it's tied to a single physical switch which won't work for your redundant network setup right

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At least you better have dual redundant networks! 😛

primal laurel
#

I want a PoE toaster

dawn badge
runic forge
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Hey all

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gotta say, this server is bit different that what i'm used to

grizzled gull
#

To much Raccoon talk?

lone dagger
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Not enough.

runic forge
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Not used to the thread layout

weak musk
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You’ll get there I have faith

deft pewter
runic forge
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Currently have a small apple home setup which works well enough, but about to move together with my brother who is android user so will need to think how that will work

lone dagger
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It'll be fine.

primal laurel
stuck mortar
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iPhone has dark mode too smart

runic forge
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Main thing i like with the apple setup is i can have an automation turn on the lights and then have it run whenever my morning alarm goes off, so if i change the alarm time or skip it i dont need to worry about changing the light schedule too

peak slate
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Home assistant app plus alarm sensor from it

pearl cloud
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Hey all I have a question about cloud Nabu casa. My ISP went through some scheduled maintenance overnight so I had no internet between 1:00 and 5:00 a.m. however now that things are back up some things are not working on my home assistant instance for example Nabu Casa cloud, and a couple of other Cloud Integrations are not working. However there are Cloud Integrations that are working so I'm not sure why that's happening. I definitely cannot connect remotely but can connect to it locally

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I rebooted the entire system still some of these issues are lingering

glacial knot
peak slate
glacial knot
midnight adder
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Finally getting around to setting up home assistant this week. Slowly moving towards self-hosted everything. Glad to see the 'omg k8s too complicated, why you do this' argument is still alive and well 😆 (ofc, I have said this to people for certain use cases)

glacial knot
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k8s is absolutely overkill
Even for most businesses

solar zealot
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The only good thing about swarm are the global network funsies

red rock
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and that website with a ton of things to easily add

stuck anchor
stuck anchor
midnight adder
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I mean, technically a majority of business are considered small.. less than 10 people?

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I also find that most of the pain points of kubernetes turn out to be the pain points of running microservices or servers in general and it exposes them in a way that forces you to think about it vs being oblivious about handling this stuff properly

midnight adder
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ofc, there are cloud services to handle the majority of the other pieces if you're able to use them

grizzled gull
#

uggg I hate teams meetings after lunch, want to take a nap

lone dagger
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2/3 of my colleagues are in their evening for my lunch.

stuck anchor
grizzled gull
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That would work if I didn't have to answer a question randomly through the 1 hour meeting :/

lone dagger
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...wait an after lunch meeting AND it was longer than an hour????

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Time to burn it down, Twinkies.

grizzled gull
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I know right...

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That sounds like so much more work then watching a youtube video on my personal PC which has 2 monitors on my desk, work only has 1 dedicated unless I'm working on spreadsheets

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or cruising discord

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I used to grind WoW stuff while in meetings when I was younger, but I don't play WoW anymore

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yeah that gets hard, I used do lower level dungeons for transmogs in wow during work time as it didn't require me to concentrate and if I need to step away I was fine

forest edge
grizzled gull
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If I did do a regular dungeon run I'd do it with guildies who know I was working any didn't really care

primal laurel
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This is not support

crystal walrus
#

ok hoping someone had a idea. But I will paste it in there sorry 🙂

forest edge
supple grove
weak musk
forest edge
lone dagger
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That is it.

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There’s a thread with way more words.

lone dagger
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NOT SORRY

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😂

mighty rose
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So where do I get low-level with how ZHA works?

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On a custom firmware, ZHA will hang on adding a device - and I don't know who to blame 😄

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I'm assuming there's some kinda wait for a report or zigbee packet that isn't received, so it never proceeds with adding the device.

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could be related to location and it not being reachable directly from the controller too

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Apparently, it works with Z2M

static schooner
mighty rose
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Hmmmm ok - I'm not convinced it isn't something lacking in the firmware - but not knowing what ZHA is expecting makes it hard to be certain.

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I'll try to remember to follow this up when I've finished work

static schooner
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a post in that channel with the Zigbee tag is the best way to get in touch with the people responsible

lone dagger
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Yeah he watches that tag, the dev will see things.

static schooner
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dead things

lone dagger
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Maybe!!

mighty rose
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Technology is full of ghosts and dead things.

lone dagger
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I mean, it’s clearly the source of your troubles.

static schooner
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it's well known that ghosts obstruct radio waves in the 2.4GHz band

mighty rose
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got ghosts in my blood - better do cocaine.....

sage cedar
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Why am I getting the blame for this?

forest edge
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any watch The Rig show on prime? show has waaaay too many moments where you question the characters IQ

mighty rose
#

So, just like real life?

sage cedar
forest edge
#

I'll only judge you by your patriotism so don't worry

peak slate
iron granite
#

LONESTAR!!!

ocean oar
atomic delta
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So just curious, since I have zero clue where to look for this information, has any progress been made in identifying what went wrong with the HAOS 15 update? I understand it'll take time to fix regardless, but I'm curious if you guys at least know why.

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For now I just marked HAOS 15.0 as skipped, since there's no way I'm running that update again as-is.

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Oh bugger. I found info on it on GitHub.

forest edge
ocean oar
#

Sounds like something a person who still has both their arms would say

forest edge
solar zealot
#

That is basically wrong

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All that proves is that it didn't happen yet

#

You best be ordering a spare

forest edge
#

sounds like a typical salesman scam

solar zealot
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I've seen them say they don't want it, think they wont need it and therefore not order some.
Yet when they do they wonder none are in stock, ready to be picked up. You don't want to be that guy. But fear not slaps roof this can fit so many arms they will question you at the border about it

ocean oar
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Something something right to bear arms

solar zealot
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Nothing screams more preparedness than spare arms. Oh and did I mention you get 500$ off if you get the loan with us?

robust flicker
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Oh, we're talking about arms. Did you know, the average human has less than two arms.

primal laurel
deft pewter
young oxide
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Darn, I am having the boot-issue on my thinclient :( I dont have a monitor to connect to my thinclient anymore, argh

glacial knot
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nah, just use the mode for your average and you are fine

deft pewter
#

Good idea. Anyone know how to reattach a pinky?

red rock
#

ducttape and prayers

deft pewter
#

I have duct tape. Someone send prayers.

red rock
orchid solstice
#

Uh am I dumb but

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Where do I ask for help around here

orchid solstice
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I answered it! By some intense googling

orchid solstice
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But I’m noticing this server is divided into really specific sections

primal laurel
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just try to put it where you think it fits best

red rock
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And otherwise we have

primal laurel
#

that channel is not on the channel list apparently

young sigil
primal laurel
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it doesnt show up in my overview

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im probably not the only one

young sigil
primal laurel
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im not doing that

young sigil
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wtf NOT?

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Stupid caps lock

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You can stil hide muted.

primal laurel
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because I dont want all channels. I presume missy can add this one to the default role so that it shows up for everyone

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you dont want everyone to have to click that button

red rock
primal laurel
crisp oriole
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Why are you guys turning a user story into a known issue. With a unwanted workaround.

young sigil
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Boredom

crisp oriole
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I find your lack of QA distubing.

red rock
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We do what we must

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because we can

forest edge
last cedar
forest edge
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😈

forest edge
# last cedar Perhaps 😦

I'm sure I could find some left over scraps of fur and maybe some pieces of ears or something to send you to help make the illusion more realistic

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|| yes i am evil ||

last cedar
#

Better than nothing I guess

crisp oriole
#

Thats why all end users are also 1st line support

deft pewter
#

There are other kinds of testing?

iron granite
dire cobalt
#

Anyone using the Smart Life integration? Is there a way to not have to constantly reconnect/sign in when Home Assistant updates?

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I feel like there was a reason I used Smart Life instead of Tuya…

grizzled gull
#

I've tried to switch to Tuya local in the past and not had luck

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Maybe I shoudl try again

dire cobalt
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What’s Tuya local? A different app?

dawn badge
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its an integration on HACS

deft pewter
#

What's ||a support channel||?

tepid mango
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Hi, has anyone figured out how to unlock their house door when they are approaching it? iphone were suppose to have this feature released with ios18 but i don't see it and I can't figure out how else to do.

If i put a esp device that would maybe work with my phone or watch bluetooth it could work but the i wouldn't be able to have it set between when i'm inside the house vs outside.

dawn badge
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yeah, there is a component that uses this in esphome i beleive. no idea how stable it is though

nocturne orchid
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this here is my solar production, and i wanted to figure out what percentage the estimate has to add to make it more or less accurate. is there i way i can export the data i can see here as a .csv? i have searched in the downloaded energy.csv, but that doesn't list the forecast.

nocturne orchid
lunar remnant
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Dig out an old PC, spend an hour getting it working, set Proxmox up... SSD dies

Thanks, Samsung 😦

Admittedly it was like a 10 year old SSD that hasn't been powered on for at least 4 years but now I have to find another one 😂

static schooner
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it was already in retirement and you tried to get it to go back to the office 🤷

iron granite
unborn merlin
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my oldest samsung ssd at least.. 🙃

forest edge
unborn merlin
#

thats an 840 pro. but I also ahve a 990 thats doing fine..

velvet siren
#

Is a Dell OptiPlex 5050 MFF Tiny Intel Core i5-6500T okay to use for home assistant?

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I have a raspberry pi 3b+, but read it's not that great

solar zealot
#

Nearly reaching the specified tbw durability on that 840 drive

dawn badge
velvet siren
ocean oar
lunar remnant
unborn merlin
#

Tech-savvy buyers who might be worried about SSD lifetime decreasing even as SSD capacity skyrockets should have their fears assuaged by the ridiculous number of writes the tested drives endured; the drive that survived the longest survived more than 2.4 petabytes worth of sustained writes. That’s probably about 240x as much writing as a typical consumer SSD would need to endure over its lifetime.

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fucking petabytes

ocean oar
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Yeah, and when you consider that was 5 years before the one I own was made, and longevity trends upwards over time...

unborn merlin
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though my new home server I'm buildign with some.. SAS 1.6TB toshiba/kioxia SSDs

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those will probably outlast me 😛

ocean oar
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I got a fell-off-the-back-of-a-truck deal on (very) lightly used 3.84TB Samsung SAS SSDs (PM1643)

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1DPWD × 5y ~= 7PB total

unborn merlin
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and thats within their warranty.. they will likely last longer if treated well

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... which is pretty easy to do with SAS ssds since unlike their SATA/m2 cousins.. they tend to actually have proper heatsinks.

ocean oar
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Also mine are in a 3.5" JBOD (I already owned it, didn't want to buy another one) so they have ridiculous amounts of airflow

unborn merlin
#

yeah my new servers being delayed by myself... not focusing enough to complete my custom 3d printed case. 🙃

jovial fog
#

hey, everyone! Looks like the smartthings integration no longer shows the warning about the tokens and new setups, but when I go to Smartthings, it's still saing the token only works for 24 hours. Anyone know if it's fixed and new installations can happen now?

deft pewter
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I'm sure someone in a support channel would know

jovial fog
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Ah, sorry I kindof suck at discord. I don't see one that says support... is it one of the little speachbubble icon ones?

iron granite
#

That guides you to the right support channel.

jovial fog
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thank you

red rock
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Because I have answers 😂

jovial fog
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Lol I scouted around for a while but ended up finding things in the home assistant interface. I think updating was all I needed

red rock
#

Yes the integration got rewritten practically

static schooner
red rock
#

I googled this and I learnt a new one

golden wing
#

I'm so angry that fixing the alignment of my door was this easy

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Because I've put it off for months thinking it would be harder

#

All those poor cries from my smart deadbolt could have been avoided

solid sorrel
#

hope everyones doing well! wow, Discord has changed a lot in the couple of years I've not used it, when did they introduce posts like in the support channels? That's kinda cool, overwhelming to absorb but handy 🙂

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Just got back in to HA after a few years break, it's as fun and maddening as I remember! glad to find this place, so many questions for those support channels...!

umbral cliff
forest edge
umbral cliff
latent lagoon
#

i just got done with the most recent revision of my internal weather stream :D

thoughts, feedback?

young sigil
#

Internal? That looks like a map of the outside to me.

dawn badge
#

always a fun day when ESPHome update drops... "ITS BUILDING TIME!"

golden wing
#

I finally figured out why I haven't been able to add my nest thermostat to home assistant with Matter

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  1. my network hasn't had IPv6
  2. i didn't have mdns forwarding enabled between the vlan home assistant runs on and the iot vlan the thermostat is on
solar zealot
#

no ipv6 nearly 30 years after its introduction ^^

golden wing
#

haven't needed it

#

until now

#

lmao

glacial knot
#

I don't get a prefix from my ISP
Likely due to not asking for it correctly, but a global v4 is more important to me than v6 at all

ocean oar
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I've been meaning to change ISP, which will let me have v6

solar zealot
#

thats such an american thing

ocean oar
#

The beauty here is because the FTTH network is government-sponsored and separate from the ISPs, if you pick an ISP who does things properly (ie batch provisioning through the lines company's API) you can switch with sub minute downtime (as long as you're not switching tagged to untagged, or pppoe to ipoe at the same time)

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I could sign up to a new ISP and have the connection active at 11pm (50 minutes from now). No mess, no fuss

solar zealot
#

whats keeping you from doing that ^^

ocean oar
#

Shit couple of months at work and being completely drained every evening and barely wanting to touch a computer let alone make decisions

ocean oar
#

Holy shit, there's a gif I've not seen in like 15 years

umbral cliff
glacial knot
#

I have a v4 that cycles when I want it to
It's great

nocturne aspen
#

Is this channel good to casual conversation about home automation solutions and hardware?

solar zealot
#

depends on what casual is

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its not for support questions or other guidance

#

its mostly for talking about raccoons

robust flicker
#

Man. I'm jealous of this guy at work.

#

I don't care for the wheels, but that, friends, has been my dream car for almost 40 years. That is a late 60s Buick Wildcat convertible...

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The lighting does NOT do it justice, tbh

grand mist
#

Packing for a move and sumbled across my very neglected soldering equipment.

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That will be getting much more attention after I move lol

robust flicker
#

Noooooo 😦

solid sorrel
#

another day, another attempt at getting Keyboard Remote working consistently with this Keypad. I've got the jog wheel increasing a number. entity but it is more than a little janky!

whole gazelle
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Currently run Jellyfin and HA from my dedicated ubuntu desktop. Wanna move HA to a Raspberry Pi, but how to use the power of my desktop for Jellyfin streaming? Wake-on-LAN and sleep?

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and dont use a sd card on the rpi

whole gazelle
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Dont wanna leave the desktop running 24/7

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Enough for all formats?

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Currently running a i5-9600K CPU

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# whole gazelle Dont wanna leave the desktop running 24/7

curious how expensive your electricty is? I have a 12 HD 3 NVME Unraid setup that idles at 65 watts(while idling it has 1 modded minecraft server running, frigate(with a coral), and like 15 other dockers including HA, MQTT, zigbee2mqtt,zwave2mqtt, node red) and thats with 64 GB of ddr 4 ram :/

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a nuc woudl draw like what 10?

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Naughty!

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how do you alert a mod again I forget 😛

grizzled gull
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hopefully the report function isn't like facebook groups where it actually punishes the group

iron granite
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Facebook has one of the worst moderation tools I know.
It feels like they don't want it to be good.

primal laurel
whole gazelle
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But if you dont, then that power is wasted

grizzled gull
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my point was that even high power systems can idle down pretty well

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Jellyfin will run like crap on a rpi anyhow unless you disable all image cacheing and metadata

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For a media server with limited drives a Nuc is great

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I strongly considered going that route, but minecraft servers are stupidly single threaded beasts, especially with modded minecraft

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I'm also running 3 different ones on that box

forest edge
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minecraft wtf

static schooner
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I feel like I'm missing out on the magic that is Minecraft

forest edge
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missing out on this are you?

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wtf love that copy paste didn't work lol

static schooner
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coulda been worse

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who knows what's in that clipboard

grizzled gull
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I run servers so I can chunk load areas and not even need to afk while running the client >:)

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true, but I'm picking about where I build 🙂

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I try get a long ways away so my kids can't find me 🙂

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oh ATM10 you can claim chunks, does the same thing

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I just do it so they don't beg for resources instead of doing it themselves 😛

primal laurel
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me and my friend just do speed runs lol

grizzled gull
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lol

primal laurel
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creative mode! boooooooooh!

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you built that tower in survival?

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interesting

grizzled gull
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I need more resources

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I really like mystical agriculture

primal laurel
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I setup this docker server where every minecraft server is its own docker container and you can travel between them through portals. That was fun 😂

grizzled gull
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Small mob farm

forest edge
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minecraft dungeons was the only concept that game had that might have been fun but think that was geared way more toward children

peak slate
peak slate
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Not too much geared toward children, had some good loot loops and the difficulty could be turned up for some fun

forest edge
peak slate
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Doesn't mean you can't have fun with it, I enjoy plenty of Mario games

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I leveled up a wizard build to shoot giant lasers all the time

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I did have the difficulty turned up a bit more than the baseline, but yeah it could also be considered a gateway drug to stuff like Diablo

unborn merlin
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"Weighs the soul of your connection" 🤣

fringe hollow
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yo folks, what do you use for tracking chores with HA? i am looking for something that reminds me to feed my cat, and keep track of how many times i do it and when lol

iron granite
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The cat reminds you without HA.

static schooner
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Cats have an excellent sense of time and a poor sense of actual hunger

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They show up right when I normally feed them, but also 6 other times during the day

forest edge
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thats a lot of cars that show up /s

iron granite
desert cave
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always feed your cars

static schooner
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pfft, them too

fringe hollow
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i mean - she's not wrong

sage cedar
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My car is a menace to society too, but only when I drive her to it 🥁
-# I'll see myself out

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Maybe I suck at writing proposed features, I was told that my suggestion was many times duplicated, yet when they provide links of the duplicate Feature Requests, only one of the list was very close, and it didn't get so much as a response.

I want to have an external disk (To HASOS, maybe USB, maybe onboard) be the place for /media so I can use the Plex Add-On and make that be the location for media. This would keep media from filling the HASOS disk, and let me use that surplus processor/RAM/Disk for something useful and turn off the other always running computer. While we are at it, let's make that /media an NFS export and SMB share.
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/change-media-location-to-external-network-storage/573095 That's the one that was unanswered for almost 2 years.

All of the other links provided (thanks to Sir_Goodenough for taking the time to provide links to what he says are duplicates) were really for other uses, mostly for HASOS pieces off of the primary disk.

primal laurel
deft pewter
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Something something Docker install, something something volume mappings

primal laurel
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I think it's a dumb idea anyway. You're gonna run plex with the media on a network mount? why

quiet tulip
deft pewter
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What you're trying to do makes sense. But if the core team aren't interested in letting HAOS do that, use something else that can handle it - like the Docker install.

primal laurel
deft pewter
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If it can run in a container, it can probably run as an addon shrugR

quiet tulip
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I ran HA in a container for a while, wanted the HAOS experience with add-ons etc. That part has been better, and since HAOS is really a stripped down Linux installation, with things as containers, it's not that far out of the box.

deft pewter
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Until you find the stuff you can't do with HAOS, then Docker excels... 🤯

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But carry on with the limited version.

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HAOS is "barely enough linux" to run whats needed

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to run bigger more complex packages your better off running proxmox. haos on a VM then other vm's for other stuff

primal laurel
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HAOS has everything you need to run HA. If you need more, then it probably shouldn't run on HAOS

deft pewter
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haos on a VM then other vm's for other stuff
Which doesn't solve the problem they came here asking about. They want a path within HAOS to map to something outside of HAOS, which Docker can do trivially.

deft pewter
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primal laurel
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no you said don't run HAOS

deft pewter
deft pewter
primal laurel
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well that's all I understood from the ramblings

deft pewter
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I guess it's not my fault some people lack in reading comprehension. My apologies.

primal laurel
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so you're pro HAOS now? Good to know!

lunar remnant
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Just changed my netmask to 255.255.0.0 and OH MY GOD this is so FREEING

weak musk
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You guys got any raccoons?

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deft pewter
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Yeah, I get what you mean and why you made the suggestion you did.

primal laurel
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but whatever, it's not gonna happen anyway

quiet tulip
# dawn badge HAOS is "barely enough linux" to run whats needed

Since there's an Add-on to make an SMB share for your configuration files, it's not that much of a stretch to make a different volume be also NFS exports, , and there's an add-on for a plex server, just need a non-hack way to make those two be the same directory.

I have done very similar with plex in a container and the underlying host NFS exporting that directory that is a volume, have it running on a machine right now.
Maybe I just should go back to HA in a container and forget about the benefits of Add-ons etc. Or put HAOS in a VM

deft pewter
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go back to HA in a container and forget about the benefits of Add-ons
Easy - there aren't many benefits, but plenty of downsides 😅

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addons are useful for stuff thats HA related and maybe some other smaller packages but i dont personally think you should be running bigger stuff thats usually stand alone within HAOS

primal laurel
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proxmox - have haos with addon support then also have a VM to run whatever you whatever you want with all the flexibility you want

quiet tulip
quiet tulip
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quiet tulip
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its absolutely rock solid. a dedicated hypervisor is definetly the best way to virtualise

quiet tulip
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have a look at some videos and give it a go if/when you get a chance.
maybe you will like it, maybe you wont.
for me its great but it doesnt mean it will be right for you

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wary skiff
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Can I get a little nudge in the right direction for where to post an LCARS question?

deft pewter
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I reckon a Star Trek forum would work

wary skiff
unborn merlin
static schooner
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True enough

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Also not feeding the local coyote population

unborn merlin
peak slate
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In front of the door

static schooner
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If I were bigger, this would be you

unborn merlin
peak slate
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Yup, and that murder face, yeah that tracks

static schooner
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The cats seemingly decimated the chipmunk population at my parent's house

peak slate
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At one point the cat was bringing baby bunnies to the dog to eat because the dog was old and couldn't move very fast at that point

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The cat emptied out the bunny nest

static schooner
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Are you a bot? (Not Steve-O)

sage cedar
weak musk
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Rob’s a regular potato farmer when it comes to bot identification

sage cedar
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Smells like one to me too, but they don't have to tell you.

static schooner
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I have some Irish in me

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Bots self identify by not responding

sage cedar
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So if I was to self identify as 'not responding' rather than 'it, that' I'd... oh never mind, going to bed. Night all.

proud path
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if i plug this into my raspberry pi running HA will it be able to recognize blueooth devices

ocean oar
forest edge
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@last cedar yes come meet your fate..

solar zealot
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Sono why do you keep feeding them cameras if you don't want them to eat em

deft pewter
unreal crystal
peak slate
unreal crystal
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Chirps? He like growls the whole way. It's weird.

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Is today the day I take apart my powerwall to get at the local API password?

peak slate
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Yeah my cat doesn't meow, she chirps, and mips

primal laurel
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that's hilarious

peak slate
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Her carrying things upstairs is a chirp - light thump as she lands on the stair

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Chirp thump chirp thump chirp thump

robust flicker
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Y'all's cats bring stuff toys and dead things. Mine digs through the garbage and finds loose soda/water bottle caps and hides them under the covers so we find them with our bare backs...

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There will be times where we haven't thrown a bottle away in ages (we usually just refill them with tap water until the lid won't stay on) and yet, some random night, one of us will wake up going "oww wtf, where did this come from?!" 🤣

lone garnet
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What's the opinion of using node-red over automations? Is it best to run node-red outside of HA?

robust flicker
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We have two mousers that are only inside because they've not been spayed yet. Mother/daughter pair. Momma cat showed up, pregnant, and had her babies in our crawl space under our home. But we have a stray problem (we live outside city limits, and the county animal control is horribly overwhelmed) and a stray male got under there and managed to kill all but one of her babies before we coaxed her into bringing them out to us. 😥

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So her and her sole surviving baby are both inside until they're spayed. Momma gets spayed next week, and put back out.

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We have 5 total cats. Mishka, is the oldest, and has been with us for right at 13 years now. Next up is Marshmallow. Then Crimson, he's a ginger. Both of those, my wife found on the side of the road as kittens.... Plus we have a 100lb mutt named Zeus who babies all 5 of the cats, but will demolish anything he can catch in the yard. 🤣

mild onyx
peak slate
robust flicker
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That's miskha.

peak slate
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We live in the middle of a city, the policy for strays is just TNR which we've helped out with, have had 6 cats TNRd from our backyard

robust flicker
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Callie and Allie, the mom/daughter pair.

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Crimson (L) and Marshmallow (R)

peak slate
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Fluff, Lucy, and the crew (who are all named too, pepper, khaki, stinky, and shamoo in this photo, but there are a few more who hang out too)

robust flicker
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Lol

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Zeus runs off most strays when he's outside. But I need to fix the fence in a few places where he has gotten out, so he's rarely outside without supervision.

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This is the escape artist in question.

peak slate
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We have trained Lucy a fair bit to ignore the outdoor cats and it's probably the only reason she let fluff stay inside anyway

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Now Lucy is just annoying to the cats but otherwise they all are fine with each other

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They didn't always like Lucy's nose up their butts but they know she won't attack

robust flicker
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Our neighbors are straight up terrified of Zeus. He's a big ol baby, but gives a good show to people passing by. 🤣

peak slate
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Lol some folks in the neighborhood are scared of Lucy since she's a pit mix, but my nextdoor neighbor knows she's a big softy

robust flicker
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Our neighbor one side calls him Cujo. She likes coming into our yard to pick blackberries, and is always asking "Is Cujo put up, I wanna hop the fence for a bit." Lol

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She won't listen when we tell her just come in and he'll leave ya alone. Don't just reach in to pet him tho....

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Tbh, we didn't put enough time in with him when he was a puppy, as we had two other dogs when we got him. Our oldest was in a bad way, and so he got most of the attention. If we could do it over, we probably just wouldn't have gotten him when we did

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But he was the pick of a litter of another stray my wife rescued, and subsequently gave to her sister...

primal laurel
robust flicker
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Ours just has some barrier aggression. Like, if there's a fence between y'all, he growls and barks, and if you reach over, he'll nip your hand. But if you just walk in, he'll lick you to pieces.

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This should give an idea of just how big he is. That's the window of my wife's old car that he's just casually perched on ..

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His mom was a lab mix, and we're pretty sure his dad was a boxer mix I caught in our yard one afternoon.