#the-water-cooler
1 messages · Page 223 of 1
moar filamet?
That is pretty important! 🙂
Lots of the ventillation systems use modbus as well, for monitoring
You will have to catch it and test it
KNX
it is not entirely open (there's a paid software for commissioning) but you can get a free license by going through their course with some limitations
but anyone can make knx devices
big ecosystem
thank you
<@&330946878646517761>

So I broke down and bought a 8gb pi5 kit and an A2 sdcard... Right now I'm running HA on a laptop with a non-ryzen AMD E2-6110.. the thing was under 300 bucks when I bought it, and it's been upgraded.over the years to 16GB of ram, and an SSD... But cpu pegs when I try to use Assist locally (piper/faster-whisper) ... Ugh. Wish me luck that all my configs just restore from backups like they're supposed to. 🤣
Why a PI instead of a NUC type PC?
I may eventually switch to a nuc, but I also want a pi for other things .. I've never actually fooled around with one before, and now that I have a little bit of money to toss around...
I wonder if HA can make use of a local AI running on a GPU?
And a LOT more time for "fiddling" as well, since I quit driving trucks back in July, and now work for a county government's electronics department.
You must have amazing patients driving a truck.
You do you, but it normally fiddlers outgrow the pi quickly 🙂
It wasn't always just staring out the windows.. 🤣
PI used to be great on power draw but NUCs at idle hardly use anything today.
I am a lover of elitedesks personally, but I do have the first i3 3317 (was it?) nucs
oh, I'm sure. But I've been out of the "scene" for decades, and have sooo much gadget learning to catch up on.
Might have been a 3217u? Hmm
So I figured, start with one of the most well known pieces of kit first.
Yes, the most important thing is that you are happy with what you have 🙂
I wanted a cheap micro PC, but just couldn't justify a $300 price tag for a hobby investment.
nothing wrong with a pi as a HA backbone. if you go around messing with cctv or this voice shit you can always put those on a remote pc downn the road
They get proper expesnive very quickly as well
I run 3 elitedesk machines that didn't cost a lot more than that
Saying that, raspberry pis are not cheap anymore
I'm running on a old desktop from work, i5 6500 does not break a sweat ever. Free.
Yeah. I noticed. Our department has a LOT of SFF elitedesks in use, cameras. Locking/intercom/lighting control boards..
We were looking to source some new ones that'd be able to handle 4 displays at once and it wound up being cheaper to just buy 4 smaller micro PCs for each monitor, then use Multiplicity to link em all up.
When each monitor is showing up to 9 rtsp camera feeds at once, trying to put 4 monitors onto one machine wouldve taken a very powerful, and expensive, system.
Why? Does is not use the GPU to offload the video display work?
Curious.
Yeah, and having a GPU capable.of handling that drove the price of the systems way beyond what we had budgeted for the project.
Interesting, a modest card should handle 4 monitors pretty easy.
Probably means you also need larger machines with higher wattage psus etc
It's not just the display, it also needed to handle all those incoming streams, too
3 screens seems about the limit for using usb c docks right?
So instead of dropping 2k to 3k per system, we spent 400x4.. so 1600 in its place.
Plus, we're pretty locked into Pelco for our system... And their camera management is built on top of Java. (??!) Ugh lol
We started using a camera system by spot ai, amazing what it knows, can identify and tell us about movement, accidents, near accidents and so on. Has cut down tremendously on in person monitoring of many cameras.
We're trying to get approval to hire a contractor to switch us and update a bunch of stuff. But.. government efficiency. 🤣
That's not an option here. This is a county jail. We HAVE to have people monitoring these cameras.
Understood, you still can do that, but it will tell you if a gate is open, someone is in an area they should not be, recognize their face or what they are wearing and follow them across cameras.
Our locking and control system does that already.
It's on a separate system, intentionally. The only integration between the two is, it can automatically stream a rtsp when a door or intercom is activated.
Doors simply do not open unless opened by a correctional officer. There's absolutely no way we could get approval for automatic facial recognition for that. Not secure enough.
The aforementioned CO might be sitting at a monitor 200m away from the door, but the camera pops up, they hit the button to open the door. The system records who opened the door. So if there was an issue, it falls onto the CO, not the system.
I think being able to track a person though the facility guard or inmate would be great, sometimes people start doing little things to push the limits and could be detected ahead of time before something bad happens.
But hey, regulations are there for a reason!
We have more in the way of storage than actual network switches in our camera room. Each unit has 12 6TB HDDs. There are approximately 20 of those units. It's getting recorded.
how much history are you required to keep?
30days is the minimum, and housing area videos are kept for up to 4 years.
Depends on the camera. We have both types set up.
Where are those 4 year recordings kept?
And yeah, it is. They've had this current system for about 7 years now, and have added storage 3 or 4 times since.
In house
Damn so they are at risk of fire or water damage. Some local physical disaster
IT handles all that tho. My department keeps cameras operational.
I miss large optical discs for archiving. They did not keep pace. Sony has a 5.2gb disc but the writer and discs are expensive AF. ashame.
Oh, there's gobs of safety equipment in and around this room. Fire equipment is tested monthly. This room has a completely separate fire alarm from the rest of the jail. Fire walls (the literal kind) everywhere
Well it was nice learning about the jail system 🙂
Yeah, I applied for the job kinda on a whim. I have some electronic background, I'd worked for catv and telephone companies before, and I have an associates in electronics as well, but I got that decades ago, and couldn't find a decent paying job that used it in my area so went trucking.. saw the job, applied.. 2 months later I'm doing it. I turn 49 in August.. so . It's never too late for a career change!
Where I'm at truck drivers are still a premium right now. Ours actually delivery product as well as drive and keeping them is tough at times. Lots of competition
Yeah, problem is, I have a medical condition that kept me from being to do the physical side of that kind of trucking. I had 650lbs of steel crush me in 1998. I can walk still, but lifting and carrying heavy things these days is a nonstarter.
Kinda why I went back to school for the electronics stuff, because that ended my shipyard work.
oh shit.
Yeah, that's exactly what I said when it happened. 😂
ah, first thing that came to mind.
My next words were to a coworker who grabbed the plate to try to pull off me were "goddammit, if you try and fail, dropping it on me again, I'm gonna beat the shit out of you, get the crane, dumbass."
did they tell you to shake it off?
Don't think you can shake off 650lbs of anything
Heh. No. Job actually took decent care, called an ambulance and everything.
finally! was searching around for copper network cabling that can break the 100m barrier someone told me about a year ago. Finally found it
Broke my pelvis on both sides of my spine, and a hairline crack in L2. The Ortho straight up told me that if I hadn't been so young, I probably wouldn't be walking today. I was like 21 when it happened.
good grief
In a bed for several weeks, then a wheelchair for a couple more, a walker. The accident was Valentine's Day, 1998, I took my first steps again April 28th of the same year.
"6 months bed rest" "my ass"
But enough about my past miseries. I have enough of them to worry about today, after all! 😂
Gonna go make the wife and I some lunch. Bbl
make sure you add some vitamin c
I'll take some Florida Man 😂
Been watching The Rig on prime. scottish accents so thick I can only understand half of everything spoken
studio code server missing for anyone else? not in my sidebar anymore
im running Piper on a local server and it of course has a lot more power than my Pi3B+
But even if I use HA or my local Piper, it takes a good 5 seconds (sometimes more) before I get the audio response of whatever task it completed.
i feel like that shouldn't be a thing with actual gaming level components that my server is built on (albeit, gaming from like 6 years ago, but still way better than a 3B+...lol)
oh, i just added GPU support to the container. i think that may have helped
When you finish and fully test a new amazing automation that conflicts with an older amazing automation that you'd forgotten about because it works amazing enough not to be noticed...
I was wondering why my HomeAssistant host was using 100GB in 48 hours
After looking at the graph I figured it out
Nice. An x axis.
Just something occurring every hour using a ton of network resources
It was speedtest
Damn. That's a lot of data per test!
Assuming it runs for 2 seconds at my full download speed of 1Gbps 48 times over 48 hours
That's 96GB of data usage
Glad I don't have a data cap
I should probably not run that hourly speed test from my nas… on symmetric 10Gbit fiber
Oops 20GB each time. Glad I only had that on for a few hours so far
Hey all, what's the best budget smart lock for home assistant?
Preferably zigbee but I doubt I'll find it, so zwave or wifi will do
Like around 100 dollars is what I'm hoping, but there's so much ewaste on Amazon, I'm scared to jump in
96 gigabit, so only 12 gigabyte 🤓
Found a Google hub max on clearance at NFM
fuck yeah - custom zigbee firmware for my light switches that is waaaaaaay better than manufacturer firmware 🙂
How ya do that?
You just switch it 😉
Ah yes, the Please Note because End Users of this thing are very silly.
I wish there was a way in ZHA to query zigbee devices for firmware updates
should use directional N/S/E/W 🙂
No one in my family knows where North is.
Even though half of them are Military.
My partner is the same. I say "go north on blahblah street" and every damn time the response is that "no-one knows which way is north" 😢
I just throw them coordinates if I want them to suffer.
could be some fun to put the ordinals on the walls 🙂 or a compass like a ship.
I feel like even for non-military types, not wanting to repeat yourself and unambiguous communication is learned behaviour.
I've read too many serial numbers out over the phone to tech support in my IT career that the NATO phonetic alphabet is second nature
North, Not North, East, Not East
"No Sensor"
Thanks Captain Obvious.
Impressed by HA so far. I just came from Homebridge. I’m finding I’m using HA just like HB but I’m dying to learn more. There’s so much untapped potential here.
Anyone automate the tile colours for states?
8
Had to add the please note because people are silly.
that one person was a bot?
maybe you should solve the other way and make them camera feeds
stream of nonsense
ah
I'm not adding cameras to each room of the house just to do that.
you could use them for some automations too!
That's what mmWave Motion is for 😊
that's why you use room icons instead of camera images
They're not camera images, they're pictures of the rooms.
well same diff lol
no confusion when you use icons rather than images as per your comment about about needing the note
People keep thinking they're camera feeds.
exactly
Wait, did I report about Tuya being broken for me?
Give me a sec.
No, I haven't.
I'll be back.
Evergreen Post
Didn't see it and I had a draft.
a good watch https://youtu.be/FBqtJb2GQck?si=FPPmhQYri_kI6zs9
I hate the demonstration effect.
And the plug is dead again.
those are what I call gimmick sensors. i mean really why does a microwave need to be in HA? lol
I used a microwave plug in ha to avoid the kids microwaving anything
Our microwave is just high enough off the floor that anyone old enough to reach it should be old enough to operate it 😉
Ours used to be 50cm off the floor in the old house
The cubby for the microwave in this house is around 1.5m up
My grandmother did that in 1989, I'm still suffering PTSD
are you going to paint it as well?
Raccoon Hammer 40k
God Racoon Of Earth
Wrong channel. My bad.
Is this the place for questions?
Ok. Can you point me in the right direction?
I sont see any other channels that seek appropriate. Maybe I’m overlooking it
Don’t have access to whatever you linked
I found the appropriate place. Thanks!
Well damn. And here I am needing immoral support....
immoral support is int he #home-and-garden channel
I technically can raccoon shitpost there too, as raccoons can be both in home and gardens @warm helm
So like you will help me steal and cheat?
Wife "Why do you have to be a smartass every time I tell you something, can't you just offer moral support or something?"
Me: "But I don't know the first thing about mushrooms..."
Anyone have a couch I can crash on tonight? 🤣
@slender copper Do not @ mention or DM Moderators, Nabu Casa employees, Members, Integration owners, or any other community members who aren't part of the current conversation for any matter, unless you share a mutual relationship. The exception to this rule is if you are reporting something that violates these rules; please contact a @Mod to report any violations.
@forest edge you safe?
quad's from US's wildfire central though
always. a little wind (or blizzard like we got last night) doesn't phase real midwesterners. that shit you see on the news is our out-of-staters panicking
he wasn't going to pass up on the ultra rare opportunity to ask me what I get to ask him all the time lol
wouldn't that be a built in oven not a microwave?
i did see this shit on one of those home improvement shows https://products-salsify.geappliances.com/image/upload/s--2l227o3g--/w_600/96167e460026a74fc82c6ef7206f2767bf1f1149.jpg
that's an abomination in my opinion
As long as we can all get together to rage against the people who have the microwave on top of the fridge
must be a short fridge
No, just backwater savages
thats what happens if you dont drink your choco milk
you get short legs and cant reach the microwave ontop of the fridge
where else would the microwave be
Above the cooktop (USAnians, specifically, who can buy a combination microwave/extractor fan unit), or literally anywhere as there's usually a microwave-shaped cupboard (with no door) for it with a power socket in the back. At least there has been in every house I've ever lived in.
we looked at the "new" over the oven microwaves last night at NFM that had the air frying abilities.. that is crazy how much space inside the oven you lose by adding that ability. when you opened the microwave door which are generally the overall size of the whole unit and see this pocket size opening to actually put your food
it was crazy
We have a non-turntable microwave, those always seem a bit small on the inside too.
To be fair there is still a rotating thing to "stir" the microwaves, they just hid it from you under the floor.
But you can heat irregularly-shaped objects without them banging against the sides, so that's fun?
I saw some samsung one that talked about that. showed there was no turn table but was suppose to be able to heat the stuff the same way without it
Mine's a Panasonic
Only pictures I've ever been able to find... there's that weird irregularly-shaped metal disc under the floor. Turns the energy rather than the food
Seems like you'd need a step stool to get to it
I pictured one of those dorm fridges off the bat
That’s where we want ours because we hate using it so much.
Like we use it once a month. It can be out of the way
No
hate using a microwave? what sacrilege is this
They are so awful.
Replacing it with a Bosch Combi oven / microwave now
was it a whirlpool. Would never get one again
thats less than 2ft off the ground?
used to
Now it is 180cm off the ground
Getting the combo unit tomorrow
you have one of those air frying ones?
Our Whirlpool literally will fully crash and restart the whole unit. Insanity
slightly older model
So don’t have the air frying
Whirlpool is utter shit quality in my experience
^
Anything from the Bosch Siemens alliance is great
yes all of our whirlpool stuff is having issues that was installed from the builder
dishwasher is literally rusting by the vent
Bosch is excellent
combo unit? you refering to the air frying thing or the oven/microwave thing?
even LG is shit but would still go LG over samsung
LG isn’t amazing but they’re decent for the price and features
warranty saved our ass one time lol
we have one of those Instaview fridges
the tap to light up the inside never gets used.. so don’t waste your money on one unless you want the door shelf
we have an air fryer, toaster oven ad microwave. would have loved to condense those down but these new microwaves are stupid in how much space inside you lose inside
and the counter top variants are an absolute joke.. like you could fit a single slice of bread in at a time
can see the rust here
I think bosch is in the process of buying whirlpool
Probably will just discontinue them if so 🤣
I doubt it. whirlpool is an old name
I know, but their reputation is already down the gutter nowadays I’d say
people are use to seeing 50 whilpools in the store to every one bosch appliance
I guess it could be their budget brand
don't even see as much of the other bosch stuff either anymore. use to see a ton of bosch tools etc
Oven microwave
ah
The main oven has airfrying integrated, which is nice
And it is connected to HA

New combo will also be HA integrated
And I have a new 80cm induction top that also has wifi
I don't get the point of that lol
at some point "added features" just becomes something that gives out sooner
Have yet to have a "smart" appliance give our on me, and the Bosch washing machine i have is 7 years old, which is longer than most people keep appliances around
It isn't, but people replace appliances ridiculously often
The oven and tops I'm replacing currently are 12 years old
our old washing machine (which still worked fine before we replaced it) was every bit of close to 30+ years old
a trend that needs to stop
This people right here only replace appliances like that when the old one no longer works properly.
I'm not disagreeing
it's no wonder these manufactures are making stuff shitter lol
At least I sell mine when I replace them, so someone can have them
I'm using a newish ge smart washer (4 years old I think) alongside a dryer that we got when we got married 22 years ago. Only replaced the washer because the balancing springs were all rusted out
it depends a bit what you're replacing. New appliances have become ridiculously efficient. So if you replace something like an old fridge it will pay back for itself in like a year or something just by using much less electricity
you're still in the EU
what happens when electricity is no longer free? you all go bankrupt bc you build stupid shit? lol
Except, usually it isn't, because a lot of stuff has Nordic editions, because of arctic climate, so actually a lot of our stuff is different and tailor made
Heat pumps, outside hardware etc
And cars
And we are 100% self reliant on power
We actually have to spend power because we have too much of it in the north
So they empty the water magazines often
heat pumps are very simple, there is no 'nordic' heat pump. It's just that you have mostly A2A systems and we have mostly A2W
Viking Appliances lul
Fun fact that I've probably repeated, our data centers can run on air to air cooling 360 days of the year
but will that continue once power producers figure out they can make much more money by selling on european markets?
one emp away from you all going extinct lol
what is air to air cooling and what about the other five days of the year
For the north? Yes, there is no network capacity to move it from the north to the south where the cables to Europe mainland is
Then they do water
that's when you leave open the door and your parents shout at you if they are heating for the airlines
Fun fact, one datacenter I've filled had to make three sluices and put two dampers extra on the exhaust because neighbors could hear the noise several km away
I wish I could use Alexa Media Player again.
and just like that a wild Joost appeared
Said nobody ever
When you have 2x80A 3ph per rack cooling go brrrrrr
Norwegians are going to be like the Mayan's. going to just go poof mysteriously
I did buy an Echo specifically to get rid of AMP
It just never logs in for me, it only did it once.
hellooooo
I'll joost the server
I don't rank the dutch, too much controversy with the rankings
You can see the Echo Dot Motion which is just a virtual switch that the Echo controls when it sees motion.
I mean even trying to rank frying snacks will lead to warcrimes with different people
Stroopwaffle me like one of your dutch girls
we would love to buy your power, just saying 😅 I mean that's why we built NorNed
calling them frying snacks is the warcrime
And these are the only automations that Amazon gets.
All it does is toggle a switch through Emulated Hue.
Then I used a template to make it a binary sensor for the Alarm System and for automations.
Ugh, lights lost power but HA system did not, now lights are "Unavailable", even when I restart the HA and power cycle the lights. Is there a graceful way to fix this short of deleting and re-adding the lights?
depends but there is no support in here
having patience
I acknowledge the lack of support in here; was more looking for the patience line, or a pointer to a specific support channel for incident-related stuff like this.
if you have bulbs that don't reconnect to whatever network you have them setup on it isn't an issue with HA but with your network
this mostly just relates to the integration of your lights more than it would be hardware related
#1284966582375813201 might have the answers you are looking for
#find-support is a good place to start as is https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284976732428046461
Further examination shows that it's not just HA that can't see them -- Apple Home can't either, and the Nanoleaf app doesn't see them either. They do turn on and off, though, with the wall switch.
That's just me offering closure to anyone who was waiting for an update.
Not asking anyone to actually do anything.
omg so cute
What? No obelisk?
Great when you are 45 years old and bent over from back pain though
YES
That was a really strange video. I don't think I've ever seen anything like it. Like... most of the crowd weren't recording on their phones!
ai fake
"artist"
can you do it?
The real question is "would I do it?"
No, I asked, so I know what my question is.
It's certainly skillful
But cannot help the lack of music taste 
Why would it matter though?
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and all that
I might have to dig my old juggling stuff out of the garage...
You mean I'm clown enough without? 

I moved my Zigbee network from channel 20 to 25 over the weekend and now I'm able to reliably control the lock on my garage side door 🎉
I think I tried 25 a while ago with m old Sonoff coordinator and isn't wasn't as good, but looks great now with my Tubeszb PoE coordinator. And it was as easy as changing the channel in the Z2M config 🪄
I also discovered that most of my cheap Tuya Zigbee door/window sensors are dead - no sign of life, even when I try to factory reset them. Oh well
they worked well when I first got them a year ago, but seem to have rotted
Was haos 15 supposed to be ready?
I believe so, it just moved out of RC.
Obviously. It has been released as stable.
@iron granite well, HA docker instance isn't running on my system after the update.. reverting to 14.2 brings it back up... So...
What do you mean by HA docker instance?
I suppose others are noticing. 🙂 https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1351277065516617749
Yep.. that's where I should also be talking about it I guess.
# docker stats shows only supervisor and observer running.
Ugh
And this is why I read the forums...
Would probably be good of me to consider crossposting issues like this, huh.
Crossposting???

I mean, I just selected the other boot slot in grub, and other than taking longer to be accessible than I feel like it should, it came up. On 14.2 heh
I make the rules, I do what I want.
can I do what I want too
No rules for you!
did you just... jesus quote me?
Full details of the server updates - 2025 March
hmmmmmmmmm
Forwarding because...it won't let me publish and I think that's because I did a reply lol.
The server has changed! The end is nigh! /s
Last one out of the universe don't forget to switch off the oven
Just kidding, the Home Assistant integration will deal to that for you 😉
Do you know if there was some regression in the Mqtt discovery with the latest ha?
My lights aren't recognized as RGB, it worked before the update.
if i were to upgrade to a Pi5 from a Pi3B+, do all i need is a backup and the same zigbee controller for it to just pick up my devices after i restore the backup, or am I going to lose all that?
(provided the IP of the device is also the same, which I would force in my router)
That's for #1284966540617449515
that's a forum. which is for what I would think is an issue I'm having with documentation of the problem.
this is a hypothetical where I have no problems I am just curious if, under ideal situations, that HA is supposed to be able to recognize that or not.
That's a distinction without a difference
This isn't a support or general hypothetical musing channel
yep
headache for me is that it's running as a headless machine on a shelf lol
I'll have to get a display port to hdmi and hook up my pikvm lol
thank goodness I seem to have a backup
you guys have any thoughts on tubez vs smlight?
trying to figure out which is the best zigbee coordinator for me, considering I am running HA as a docker on a hypervisor I am leaning towards a POE model instead of usb since it will be much easier to pass the IP vs passing a usb device to the app.
Can you please move this to #1284966617670881350 ?
Zigbee + recommendations tags
I have both. Both work perfectly fine. I would lean toward supporting local over smlight tho as tubezb is part of our HA community
is there any 3rd party addons i can use to run VMs?
I have hass OS running bare metal on my server.
Welp, learned not to immediately install every HA update. Currently don't have physical access to my Pi5 and it's uh... not responsive.
I’ve seen reports of that hitting HAOS folks, but haven’t heard anyone report an issue with the container version.
Well, it was an OS update. It would be weird if it hit something other than the OS.
Your best bet is taking a backup of HA and installing an OS like Proxmox with a HAOS VM
Might be worth pulling the HAOS 15.0 update if it's causing this many catastrophic failures.

i had it in fedora with kvm+cockpit, i was fedup with the VMs sometimes simply not starting up with the os for some reason.
this was like almost 2 years ago.
then i installed hass on bare metal, which has been SOLID very fast, very reliable, I aprove.
i manages to do a lot with id with addons alone, but now i need a windows vm , and cant get around it.
south african researches eating each other in the antarctic wtf
what
Fake news
A group of scientists trapped in an Antarctic research base have pleaded to be rescued after claiming a team member threatened to kill another colleague.
No eating of people anywhere.
One did go crazy ape-shit after his colleague kept revealing the endings to books he was reading. Was a few years ago now. Edit: here, https://goodreadingmagazine.com.au/book-briefs/a-scientist-on-antarctica-allegedly-tried-to-kill-a-colleague-who-kept-spoiling-the-end-of-books/
The station leader at the Argentinian Almirante Brown Station burnt it to the ground because he did not want to stay another winter.
To be fair, I think I'd stab someone for that too. Living in such an isolated environment with so few sources of entertainment, the guy that revealed all the endings is an utter twat.
Sonoma watching newsmax again?
fox news
if I have a really dumb pie in the sky idea and I wanna see if someone's done something close... where I go to ask? 
Dumb idea about what?
Kubernetes is overkill for something that requires a single container. Just use Docker like a sane person.
Addons are just Docker containers with a sprinkling of magic to auto-wire them into HAOS.
a) who said I was sane lol
b) the magic is the important part!
Well you're missing the magic by not using HAOS 
To be clear, I prefer the non OS version and run my own stuff in containers... but by doing so, I accept that I have to do stuff like expose ports manually to get things working together.
The joy of running completely bloated management to run containers with a scale of one ;D
I'm not asking for support to be clear; I'm saying I want to figure out a way to make the magic work
Because I can 
Yeah, most people using Kubernetes have no business doing so. 😂
It sounds like no one else has been silly enough to pursue this
Just look at how other 'addons' have been run as Docker containers and you're almost there (minus the stupid bloat that k8s puts over the top). You might find answers in #1284965172053807145 or over on the web forums.
Some people have from what I've heard but it's really either the addon image or whatever software in a regular container
There isnt really special sauce to it
oh that part is easy. What's not easy is that only supervised and haos have the ingress proxy that allows addons to be gated by home assistant auth
Can always roll out your own or pusht them into similar network structures
Yup
the ingress proxy that allows addons to be gated by home assistant auth
This bit is pretty much totally unnecessary. I don't get why people want to run all kinds of other software within HA. Just put them on their own subdomains and access them directly. If you want auth in front of them, do that yourself.
I've run homeassistant as HAOS, in docker, and now in kubernetes, and I had opinions and saw drawbacks or benefits to each (HAOS issues were related to a bad pi I eventually figured out). I'm running a home kubernetes cluster for other reasons, and prefer one container management solution. While I can hack together a solution for securing the addons, I just think it's a fun project to get a solution closer to the experience with HAOS or supervised within the setup I currently have.
I don't get why people want to run all kinds of other software within HA
Because software like music assistant is meant to be, and then tools like esphome are equally context dependent 
Anyway, thanks for the input, I got the answer I needed 
#1284965172053807145 is dead, long live #1284966582375813201 
there is no 'within' HA. It's just another OS, and an addon is just another container. The answer is pretty simple, because it just works
Sure. And it's nice to have an easy mode for people that don't know better.
But putting everything inside HAOS means that when HAOS goes down, so does everything else. Meanwhile, I'm here not giving a damn when a single container breaks 😂
That's completely the wrong way to look at it. It's convenience. I could easily run docker, but why? It's extra hassle
If your host goes down so do your containers. What does HAOS going down have to do with anything
completely the wrong way to look at it. It's convenience
lol? You're telling me that my view of it being 'easy mode' is wrong because it's about 'convenience'? You're just using another word to say the same thing.
HAOS is there for the 'beginners' that don't know/care enough about setting up the individual parts. They want an appliance.
I think you have tunnel vision because you work with this stuff too much
Like most of the networking people here btw
lol, okay then
this better be giving you the ~ waking up at 4am to terraform provision local infrastructure at your home datacenter because prices for electricity are low ~ kinda vibes that cloud providers don't want you to know about

I wasn't always a dev. Before, I served many years of punishment as worked as tech support. I'm well aware of the varying levels of ability/knowledge and do not take for granted that everyone knows the same as me.
Again... I'm glad there's an easy mode for people that want/need it.
But if someone comes in here with an understanding of k8s, they're not in need of easy mode. So my opinion that putting everything within HAOS is dumb still stands.
calling it easy mode, beginner mode or whatever is doing it a big disservice... if you can't acknowledge that there are good reasons to choose HAOS even if you're an expert you suffer from tunnel vision and you should come back to the real world
I'm starting to see why you're such a fan of easy mode 🤣
oh please explain
This blog is for those people whose daily job is IT-related (DevOps, developers, system administrators, etc) and who are using Home Assistant at home. If you fit that description, you just might suffer from what I call: The enterprise smart home syndrome.
When working in IT, you’ll often end

all the networking people here should read this blog by frenck, in detail. Fuckign study it 😂
I don't even have to read this to know I am called out 😛
||But at least I'm self aware
||
"Don't use kubernetes it's bloat and overkill" "haos is easy mode" Ahhhh, the old "there is only one true way" 
Who said there's only one true way? I missed that.
Said? no. Strongly implied? Yes
you will only see it with the people who have turned computers into their job though lol
Computers are my job. It shouldn’t be a a job to flip a light switch
You're putting words into my mouth. I'm glad there are options.
No I have the computer do it for me in haos. Why would I want to spin up a container for it. Too much work
And you're right. There's no 'one true way'. But there's often a 'best way for given circumstances'
the switch control will have its own container.
k8s is nice though 
I use k8s don't worry
My condolences
Same 😛
Is your home setup HA?
how HA 
At least 1 arbitrary node downtime resilient
Yes
My lights are resilient. It’s called using the switch
What, no multi-AZ to spin up a new house when the main AZ house burns down?
Not yet.... not yet.
Remote control down? “Hey kiddo, turn on that light please”
you need one of these
It's a 3 node cluster with each node acting as a control plane as well, but one of the nodes is also host to all persistent volumes courtesy of nfs, so if it goes down, some of my workloads get unhappy. And homeassistant lives on a different node that has my zigbee radio attached to it. Clearly I need to attach a zigbee radio to each node and set up a clustered storage for most of my persistent volumes
because nothing says "totally not overkill" like "buying things in triplicate" 
"So we realized that we were passing dvi over usb-c and that dvi is just an extension of VGA and that vga had this smart idea of captive screws so now we have vga screws in our dvi over usb-c"
I have cephfs
Though I need to set up the secondary zigbee dongle for migrating z2m on the fly
ceph? Now we REALLY overkill 
If it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing
Skipping right past the first part of that statement
ah yes. More useless networking in between. Great 
Well if you like that, then you'll REALLY like putting it all on TTE for some deterministic networking
TTE?
Time triggered Ethernet
I don't think zigbee should go over the best effort vl, it deserves the proper critical data vl to guarantee delivery in a predetermined time period
Now you're speaking my language
Also have ha be able to control the poe port in case you need to hard reset the dongle
Though then it's tied to a single physical switch which won't work for your redundant network setup right
At least you better have dual redundant networks! 😛
I want a PoE toaster
the bread might go bad before it toasts at the power limits
To much Raccoon talk?
Not enough.
Not used to the thread layout
You’ll get there I have faith
The secret is to just mute them all and hide muted channels.

Currently have a small apple home setup which works well enough, but about to move together with my brother who is android user so will need to think how that will work
torch all the apple stuff, come to the dark side
9/10 raccoons don’t use k8s. The last one has rabies
iPhone has dark mode too 
Main thing i like with the apple setup is i can have an automation turn on the lights and then have it run whenever my morning alarm goes off, so if i change the alarm time or skip it i dont need to worry about changing the light schedule too
Home assistant app plus alarm sensor from it
Hey all I have a question about cloud Nabu casa. My ISP went through some scheduled maintenance overnight so I had no internet between 1:00 and 5:00 a.m. however now that things are back up some things are not working on my home assistant instance for example Nabu Casa cloud, and a couple of other Cloud Integrations are not working. However there are Cloud Integrations that are working so I'm not sure why that's happening. I definitely cannot connect remotely but can connect to it locally
I rebooted the entire system still some of these issues are lingering
It's not hard to have 2 of those, right?
I thought zigbee only supported a single coordinator, with the Device having settings and some things onboard that would make it harder to have a hot spare
I can hot spare with z2m and the TI dongles
Not sure how much state is kept on the networked ones though
Finally getting around to setting up home assistant this week. Slowly moving towards self-hosted everything. Glad to see the 'omg k8s too complicated, why you do this' argument is still alive and well 😆 (ofc, I have said this to people for certain use cases)
k8s is absolutely overkill
Even for most businesses
The only good thing about swarm are the global network funsies
and that website with a ton of things to easily add
i have one automation that triggers on next alarm on my phone if it is between midnight and 09:00. it then turns on the lights 30 minutes before. i use a sleep tracker/alarm app that tries to wake me when i sleep lightly and its alarm time gets detected by home assistant through the ha app.
15-20 openshift/k8s clusters, 6 openstack clusters, i have no idea how many vmware clusters here... and that is just the on prem stuff. but then i guess it's not within your definition of most businesses
I mean, technically a majority of business are considered small.. less than 10 people?
I also find that most of the pain points of kubernetes turn out to be the pain points of running microservices or servers in general and it exposes them in a way that forces you to think about it vs being oblivious about handling this stuff properly
I stopped counting
ofc, there are cloud services to handle the majority of the other pieces if you're able to use them
uggg I hate teams meetings after lunch, want to take a nap
when you have regulatory demands and requirements for strict zone separations it gets complicated. also with geo redundancy. we can not get knocked out by the loss of any data center for our on prem workloads.
That would work if I didn't have to answer a question randomly through the 1 hour meeting :/
...wait an after lunch meeting AND it was longer than an hour????
Time to burn it down, Twinkies.
I know right...
That sounds like so much more work then watching a youtube video on my personal PC which has 2 monitors on my desk, work only has 1 dedicated unless I'm working on spreadsheets
or cruising discord
I used to grind WoW stuff while in meetings when I was younger, but I don't play WoW anymore
yeah that gets hard, I used do lower level dungeons for transmogs in wow during work time as it didn't require me to concentrate and if I need to step away I was fine
ugh before I stopped playing wow and they did those instance dungeons things I ran across people who would "step away" for x amount of time. was so annoying
I was soloing low level dungeons didnt' affect anyone else
If I did do a regular dungeon run I'd do it with guildies who know I was working any didn't really care
ok hoping someone had a idea. But I will paste it in there sorry 🙂
why is there a #1284965172053807145 and a #1284966582375813201 ?
#1284965172053807145 is being phased out
So where do I get low-level with how ZHA works?
On a custom firmware, ZHA will hang on adding a device - and I don't know who to blame 😄
I'm assuming there's some kinda wait for a report or zigbee packet that isn't received, so it never proceeds with adding the device.
could be related to location and it not being reachable directly from the controller too
Apparently, it works with Z2M
a Github issue and #1284966617670881350
Hmmmm ok - I'm not convinced it isn't something lacking in the firmware - but not knowing what ZHA is expecting makes it hard to be certain.
I'll try to remember to follow this up when I've finished work
a post in that channel with the Zigbee tag is the best way to get in touch with the people responsible
Yeah he watches that tag, the dev will see things.
dead things
Maybe!!
Technology is full of ghosts and dead things.
I mean, it’s clearly the source of your troubles.
it's well known that ghosts obstruct radio waves in the 2.4GHz band
got ghosts in my blood - better do cocaine.....
any watch The Rig show on prime? show has waaaay too many moments where you question the characters IQ
So, just like real life?
Thanks for letting me know not to watch it.
I'll only judge you by your patriotism so don't worry
I TOLD YOU TO SHOOT ACROSS HER NOSE NOT UP IT
LONESTAR!!!
A new study from Boston University’s School of Public Health has found that anyone, including you, could feasibly lose an arm at any moment due to a vast number of possible events outside your control.
Have a written record of society’s collapse. Become A Member. Get The Paper. https://membership.theonion.com/?campaign=701a500001geULHAA2
So just curious, since I have zero clue where to look for this information, has any progress been made in identifying what went wrong with the HAOS 15 update? I understand it'll take time to fix regardless, but I'm curious if you guys at least know why.
For now I just marked HAOS 15.0 as skipped, since there's no way I'm running that update again as-is.
Oh bugger. I found info on it on GitHub.
fake news
Sounds like something a person who still has both their arms would say
testament to that being fake news. if I still have both my arms then obviously you can't just lose an arm out of nowhere
That is basically wrong
All that proves is that it didn't happen yet
You best be ordering a spare
sounds like a typical salesman scam
I've seen them say they don't want it, think they wont need it and therefore not order some.
Yet when they do they wonder none are in stock, ready to be picked up. You don't want to be that guy. But fear not slaps roof this can fit so many arms they will question you at the border about it
Something something right to bear arms
Nothing screams more preparedness than spare arms. Oh and did I mention you get 500$ off if you get the loan with us?

Oh, we're talking about arms. Did you know, the average human has less than two arms.
so 2A stands for 2 arms, now I know
If the average is something like 1.996, almost all of us have too much arm. Do we need to trim a bit off?
Darn, I am having the boot-issue on my thinclient :( I dont have a monitor to connect to my thinclient anymore, argh
nah, just use the mode for your average and you are fine
Good idea. Anyone know how to reattach a pinky?
ducttape and prayers
I have duct tape. Someone send prayers.

I answered it! By some intense googling
Real I just had a general question
But I’m noticing this server is divided into really specific sections
just try to put it where you think it fits best
that channel is not on the channel list apparently
It's not a channel. It's a thread in #find-support
yes, that one is not in the 'default list'
it doesnt show up in my overview
im probably not the only one
im not doing that
because I dont want all channels. I presume missy can add this one to the default role so that it shows up for everyone
you dont want everyone to have to click that button
I am assuming that that is the case yes
Mute the ones you don't want.
thats not the problem
Why are you guys turning a user story into a known issue. With a unwanted workaround.
Boredom
I find your lack of QA distubing.
wtf am i looking at
Control panel for my raccoon empire
awww.. that's so depressing. Does each one of those switches activate a cardboard cutout of a racoon to pop out to fulfill your fantasy of your country having real racoons to see and play with?
😈
Perhaps 😦
I'm sure I could find some left over scraps of fur and maybe some pieces of ears or something to send you to help make the illusion more realistic
|| yes i am evil ||
Better than nothing I guess
Thats why all end users are also 1st line support
There are other kinds of testing?
No no! The ONLY line support!

Anyone using the Smart Life integration? Is there a way to not have to constantly reconnect/sign in when Home Assistant updates?
I feel like there was a reason I used Smart Life instead of Tuya…
I've tried to switch to Tuya local in the past and not had luck
Maybe I shoudl try again
What’s Tuya local? A different app?
its an integration on HACS
What's ||a support channel||?
Hi, has anyone figured out how to unlock their house door when they are approaching it? iphone were suppose to have this feature released with ios18 but i don't see it and I can't figure out how else to do.
If i put a esp device that would maybe work with my phone or watch bluetooth it could work but the i wouldn't be able to have it set between when i'm inside the house vs outside.
You may be interested in this project https://github.com/rednblkx/HomeKey-ESP32
yeah, there is a component that uses this in esphome i beleive. no idea how stable it is though
this here is my solar production, and i wanted to figure out what percentage the estimate has to add to make it more or less accurate. is there i way i can export the data i can see here as a .csv? i have searched in the downloaded energy.csv, but that doesn't list the forecast.
sorry didint see that chat thanks
Dig out an old PC, spend an hour getting it working, set Proxmox up... SSD dies
Thanks, Samsung 😦
Admittedly it was like a 10 year old SSD that hasn't been powered on for at least 4 years but now I have to find another one 😂
it was already in retirement and you tried to get it to go back to the office 🤷
you win some you lose some
odd, samsung ssd's are.. pretty durable 😛
my oldest samsung ssd at least.. 🙃
was it the 980's that took the dump? or 990's? One of them turned out to be a real turd; But yes my older samsung ssd's seem solid.
thats an 840 pro. but I also ahve a 990 thats doing fine..
Is a Dell OptiPlex 5050 MFF Tiny Intel Core i5-6500T okay to use for home assistant?
I have a raspberry pi 3b+, but read it's not that great
Nearly reaching the specified tbw durability on that 840 drive
yes, but if you want to discuss more head to #1284966353798697001
@dawn badge okay, thank you. I wasn't sure since it's a separate post
I've been recording security cameras at home to an 860 Evo for years, only written 130TB. It claims (4TB model) to be good for 2400TB total endurance
To be fair it’s the first one I’ve killed out of 6, my oldest is at least 12 years old
Tech-savvy buyers who might be worried about SSD lifetime decreasing even as SSD capacity skyrockets should have their fears assuaged by the ridiculous number of writes the tested drives endured; the drive that survived the longest survived more than 2.4 petabytes worth of sustained writes. That’s probably about 240x as much writing as a typical consumer SSD would need to endure over its lifetime.
fucking petabytes
Yeah, and when you consider that was 5 years before the one I own was made, and longevity trends upwards over time...
though my new home server I'm buildign with some.. SAS 1.6TB toshiba/kioxia SSDs
those will probably outlast me 😛
I got a fell-off-the-back-of-a-truck deal on (very) lightly used 3.84TB Samsung SAS SSDs (PM1643)
1DPWD × 5y ~= 7PB total
and thats within their warranty.. they will likely last longer if treated well
... which is pretty easy to do with SAS ssds since unlike their SATA/m2 cousins.. they tend to actually have proper heatsinks.
Also mine are in a 3.5" JBOD (I already owned it, didn't want to buy another one) so they have ridiculous amounts of airflow
yeah my new servers being delayed by myself... not focusing enough to complete my custom 3d printed case. 🙃
hey, everyone! Looks like the smartthings integration no longer shows the warning about the tokens and new setups, but when I go to Smartthings, it's still saing the token only works for 24 hours. Anyone know if it's fixed and new installations can happen now?
I'm sure someone in a support channel would know
Ah, sorry I kindof suck at discord. I don't see one that says support... is it one of the little speachbubble icon ones?
thank you
Lol I scouted around for a while but ended up finding things in the home assistant interface. I think updating was all I needed
Yes the integration got rewritten practically
A man, a plan, a canal...
I'm so angry that fixing the alignment of my door was this easy
Because I've put it off for months thinking it would be harder
All those poor cries from my smart deadbolt could have been avoided
You got lucky.
hope everyones doing well! wow, Discord has changed a lot in the couple of years I've not used it, when did they introduce posts like in the support channels? That's kinda cool, overwhelming to absorb but handy 🙂
Just got back in to HA after a few years break, it's as fun and maddening as I remember! glad to find this place, so many questions for those support channels...!
Was the 990, they released a software update to fix the issue
I think that was it. it was causing the drives to prematurely fail i believe
Yep, was something with how it wore down the chips (I think?)
But since been fixed and isn't an issue
i just got done with the most recent revision of my internal weather stream :D
thoughts, feedback?
Internal? That looks like a map of the outside to me.
always a fun day when ESPHome update drops... "ITS BUILDING TIME!"
I finally figured out why I haven't been able to add my nest thermostat to home assistant with Matter
- my network hasn't had IPv6
- i didn't have mdns forwarding enabled between the vlan home assistant runs on and the iot vlan the thermostat is on
no ipv6 nearly 30 years after its introduction ^^
I don't get a prefix from my ISP
Likely due to not asking for it correctly, but a global v4 is more important to me than v6 at all
I've been meaning to change ISP, which will let me have v6
thats such an american thing
The beauty here is because the FTTH network is government-sponsored and separate from the ISPs, if you pick an ISP who does things properly (ie batch provisioning through the lines company's API) you can switch with sub minute downtime (as long as you're not switching tagged to untagged, or pppoe to ipoe at the same time)
I could sign up to a new ISP and have the connection active at 11pm (50 minutes from now). No mess, no fuss
whats keeping you from doing that ^^
Shit couple of months at work and being completely drained every evening and barely wanting to touch a computer let alone make decisions
Holy shit, there's a gif I've not seen in like 15 years
I’ve got a /48 IPv6 and a static IPv4 it’s great
I have a v4 that cycles when I want it to
It's great
Is this channel good to casual conversation about home automation solutions and hardware?
depends on what casual is
its not for support questions or other guidance
its mostly for talking about raccoons
Man. I'm jealous of this guy at work.
I don't care for the wheels, but that, friends, has been my dream car for almost 40 years. That is a late 60s Buick Wildcat convertible...
The lighting does NOT do it justice, tbh
Packing for a move and sumbled across my very neglected soldering equipment.
That will be getting much more attention after I move lol
Noooooo 😦
another day, another attempt at getting Keyboard Remote working consistently with this Keypad. I've got the jog wheel increasing a number. entity but it is more than a little janky!
Currently run Jellyfin and HA from my dedicated ubuntu desktop. Wanna move HA to a Raspberry Pi, but how to use the power of my desktop for Jellyfin streaming? Wake-on-LAN and sleep?
and dont use a sd card on the rpi
Dont wanna leave the desktop running 24/7
Enough for all formats?
Currently running a i5-9600K CPU
curious how expensive your electricty is? I have a 12 HD 3 NVME Unraid setup that idles at 65 watts(while idling it has 1 modded minecraft server running, frigate(with a coral), and like 15 other dockers including HA, MQTT, zigbee2mqtt,zwave2mqtt, node red) and thats with 64 GB of ddr 4 ram :/
a nuc woudl draw like what 10?
Naughty!
how do you alert a mod again I forget 😛
hopefully the report function isn't like facebook groups where it actually punishes the group
Facebook has one of the worst moderation tools I know.
It feels like they don't want it to be good.
at current electricity prices that would be about 160 euro per year
Almost two raspberry Pis a year
But if you dont, then that power is wasted
my point was that even high power systems can idle down pretty well
Jellyfin will run like crap on a rpi anyhow unless you disable all image cacheing and metadata
For a media server with limited drives a Nuc is great
I strongly considered going that route, but minecraft servers are stupidly single threaded beasts, especially with modded minecraft
I'm also running 3 different ones on that box
minecraft wtf
I feel like I'm missing out on the magic that is Minecraft
missing out on this are you?
Minecraft LIVE is the show to watch to learn about everything happening in the world of Minecraft! Our next one will broadcast at 1PM ET on Saturday March 22!
We’ll feature never-before-seen game drop content, go direct to our developers for the top-secret insights, and let you know what’s happening in the wider world of Minecraft. The upcoming...
wtf love that copy paste didn't work lol
Not regular minecraft at least 🙂 400 mods, shaders/texture packs on the client
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/modpacks/all-the-mods-10 is one of the packs I host
I run servers so I can chunk load areas and not even need to afk while running the client >:)
true, but I'm picking about where I build 🙂
I try get a long ways away so my kids can't find me 🙂
oh ATM10 you can claim chunks, does the same thing
I just do it so they don't beg for resources instead of doing it themselves 😛
me and my friend just do speed runs lol
lol
I setup this docker server where every minecraft server is its own docker container and you can travel between them through portals. That was fun 😂
minecraft dungeons was the only concept that game had that might have been fun but think that was geared way more toward children
Dungeons was solid but a the frame rate was erratic on the switch
you are not fun
Not too much geared toward children, had some good loot loops and the difficulty could be turned up for some fun
never played it but had a friend that did that said it was more for like kids
Doesn't mean you can't have fun with it, I enjoy plenty of Mario games
I leveled up a wizard build to shoot giant lasers all the time
I did have the difficulty turned up a bit more than the baseline, but yeah it could also be considered a gateway drug to stuff like Diablo
https://thelibre.news/foss-infrastructure-is-under-attack-by-ai-companies/
Fairly amusing we now have to rely on anime-girl-project to defend sites from AI bullshit. 🤣
"Weighs the soul of your connection" 🤣
yo folks, what do you use for tracking chores with HA? i am looking for something that reminds me to feed my cat, and keep track of how many times i do it and when lol
Cats have an excellent sense of time and a poor sense of actual hunger
They show up right when I normally feed them, but also 6 other times during the day
thats a lot of cars that show up /s
So you forgot to feed them
-# in their opinion.
always feed your cars
pfft, them too
my car is a menace to society, unpredictable af, she would starve rather than come next to you
i think she's low key racist (a.k.a. she thinks cats >>> humans)
i mean - she's not wrong
My car is a menace to society too, but only when I drive her to it 🥁
-# I'll see myself out
Maybe I suck at writing proposed features, I was told that my suggestion was many times duplicated, yet when they provide links of the duplicate Feature Requests, only one of the list was very close, and it didn't get so much as a response.
I want to have an external disk (To HASOS, maybe USB, maybe onboard) be the place for /media so I can use the Plex Add-On and make that be the location for media. This would keep media from filling the HASOS disk, and let me use that surplus processor/RAM/Disk for something useful and turn off the other always running computer. While we are at it, let's make that /media an NFS export and SMB share.
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/change-media-location-to-external-network-storage/573095 That's the one that was unanswered for almost 2 years.
All of the other links provided (thanks to Sir_Goodenough for taking the time to provide links to what he says are duplicates) were really for other uses, mostly for HASOS pieces off of the primary disk.
I am running home assistant os on an old desktop with a ssd. I will be getting a coral when they are back in stock to run frigate on my cameras, in order to minimise wear on the flash and save the small ssd’s capacity i have been looking up how to mount my nas or an external usb drive to my media folder. I know quite a few folks have found ways...
tl;dr
this is not the right channel. If nobody is interested in building this feature and you can't build it yourself then I'm afraid you're just shit out of luck. Anything involving HAOS is complicated and there are only a few people who can work on that stuff
Something something Docker install, something something volume mappings
I think it's a dumb idea anyway. You're gonna run plex with the media on a network mount? why
No, I want to mount a USB or onboard disk, as /meida and run Plex using that, but at the same time export that directory so I can put media files on it from my laptop. The other way around on the NFS mount.
What you're trying to do makes sense. But if the core team aren't interested in letting HAOS do that, use something else that can handle it - like the Docker install.
And for more info on that... you'll want to move over to #installation-archived
im surprised you can even run plex on HAOS. Seems completely OOS
If it can run in a container, it can probably run as an addon 
I ran HA in a container for a while, wanted the HAOS experience with add-ons etc. That part has been better, and since HAOS is really a stripped down Linux installation, with things as containers, it's not that far out of the box.
Until you find the stuff you can't do with HAOS, then Docker excels... 🤯
But carry on with the limited version.
HAOS is "barely enough linux" to run whats needed
to run bigger more complex packages your better off running proxmox. haos on a VM then other vm's for other stuff
HAOS has everything you need to run HA. If you need more, then it probably shouldn't run on HAOS
haos on a VM then other vm's for other stuff
Which doesn't solve the problem they came here asking about. They want a path within HAOS to map to something outside of HAOS, which Docker can do trivially.
This was my argument yesterday before you (and others) ridiculed me for it 🤣
it solvees it by not needing it in HA because they run plex somewhere else
no you said don't run HAOS
I think you misunderstand their query. They want /media within HA to be pointing at their Plex media folder.
Bollocks did I.
well that's all I understood from the ramblings
I guess it's not my fault some people lack in reading comprehension. My apologies.
so you're pro HAOS now? Good to know!
Just changed my netmask to 255.255.0.0 and OH MY GOD this is so FREEING
You guys got any raccoons?
then i misunderstood. it seemed like the proposal was to run plex server on haos with a mounted external drive. so i was suggesting running plex on anoter system (vm) that has the external drive attached
Yeah, I get what you mean and why you made the suggestion you did.
that's also what I understood.
but whatever, it's not gonna happen anyway
Since there's an Add-on to make an SMB share for your configuration files, it's not that much of a stretch to make a different volume be also NFS exports, , and there's an add-on for a plex server, just need a non-hack way to make those two be the same directory.
I have done very similar with plex in a container and the underlying host NFS exporting that directory that is a volume, have it running on a machine right now.
Maybe I just should go back to HA in a container and forget about the benefits of Add-ons etc. Or put HAOS in a VM
go back to HA in a container and forget about the benefits of Add-ons
Easy - there aren't many benefits, but plenty of downsides 😅
addons are useful for stuff thats HA related and maybe some other smaller packages but i dont personally think you should be running bigger stuff thats usually stand alone within HAOS
I would run HAOS in a VM, the vast majority of installs do that (including me)
proxmox - have haos with addon support then also have a VM to run whatever you whatever you want with all the flexibility you want
I went from the container installation to HAOS on hardware because i wanted to be as much like the Yellow type experience
Why all of proxmox when regular qemu/kvm VMs are easy?
as long as you have the ram for it. virtualising wont make much of a difference. just with added flexability
proxmox is king! it would have to be something special for me not to use it on my servers now
I have been using just a regular Linux installation and create VMs / containers as I need. I don't see the benefit in proxmox, but maybe, I haven't used Proxmox
its absolutely rock solid. a dedicated hypervisor is definetly the best way to virtualise
It's just a stripped down Debian installation with a management UI, no?
have a look at some videos and give it a go if/when you get a chance.
maybe you will like it, maybe you wont.
for me its great but it doesnt mean it will be right for you
at a basic level... yes
Can I get a little nudge in the right direction for where to post an LCARS question?
#1284965988642590891 probably
I reckon a Star Trek forum would work
Thank you!
thats because you aren't letting them outside where they can commit genocide against the local birds and rodents.
https://theoatmeal.com/comics/cats_actually_kill
Little fucking sociopaths.
Okay my mom's old cat is now more terrifying, she'd lay out mice, birds, bats, bunnies, squirrels, like a row of 5 of them at a time
In front of the door
If I were bigger, this would be you
So according to this; there were many more dead elsewhere.
Yup, and that murder face, yeah that tracks
The cats seemingly decimated the chipmunk population at my parent's house
At one point the cat was bringing baby bunnies to the dog to eat because the dog was old and couldn't move very fast at that point
The cat emptied out the bunny nest
Are you a bot? (Not Steve-O)
It's not like they're narcotics officers where they have to tell you...
Rob’s a regular potato farmer when it comes to bot identification
Smells like one to me too, but they don't have to tell you.
So if I was to self identify as 'not responding' rather than 'it, that' I'd... oh never mind, going to bed. Night all.
if i plug this into my raspberry pi running HA will it be able to recognize blueooth devices
Have a look in #1284966353798697001, but also
https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/bluetooth/#known-working-high-performance-adapters
Sono why do you keep feeding them cameras if you don't want them to eat em
Population control 
We have stuffed reindeer 🦌 as Christmas decorations. They travel up the stairs most nights to be left as gifts near the bedrooms.
My cat will bring up the stuffed toys she likes, but she's not that much bigger than the toys so you can hear little chirps from her for every step she hops up carrying a toy in the middle of the night
Chirps? He like growls the whole way. It's weird.
Is today the day I take apart my powerwall to get at the local API password?
that's hilarious
Her carrying things upstairs is a chirp - light thump as she lands on the stair
Chirp thump chirp thump chirp thump
Y'all's cats bring stuff toys and dead things. Mine digs through the garbage and finds loose soda/water bottle caps and hides them under the covers so we find them with our bare backs...
There will be times where we haven't thrown a bottle away in ages (we usually just refill them with tap water until the lid won't stay on) and yet, some random night, one of us will wake up going "oww wtf, where did this come from?!" 🤣
What's the opinion of using node-red over automations? Is it best to run node-red outside of HA?
We have two mousers that are only inside because they've not been spayed yet. Mother/daughter pair. Momma cat showed up, pregnant, and had her babies in our crawl space under our home. But we have a stray problem (we live outside city limits, and the county animal control is horribly overwhelmed) and a stray male got under there and managed to kill all but one of her babies before we coaxed her into bringing them out to us. 😥
So her and her sole surviving baby are both inside until they're spayed. Momma gets spayed next week, and put back out.
We have 5 total cats. Mishka, is the oldest, and has been with us for right at 13 years now. Next up is Marshmallow. Then Crimson, he's a ginger. Both of those, my wife found on the side of the road as kittens.... Plus we have a 100lb mutt named Zeus who babies all 5 of the cats, but will demolish anything he can catch in the yard. 🤣
ya'll see this? https://us.switch-bot.com/pages/home-assistant
Yeah our cat we took in as a kitten from our backyard, she had no mom with her and was getting beat up by a different mom cat who's generally a jerk
That's miskha.
We live in the middle of a city, the policy for strays is just TNR which we've helped out with, have had 6 cats TNRd from our backyard
Fluff, Lucy, and the crew (who are all named too, pepper, khaki, stinky, and shamoo in this photo, but there are a few more who hang out too)
Lol
Zeus runs off most strays when he's outside. But I need to fix the fence in a few places where he has gotten out, so he's rarely outside without supervision.
This is the escape artist in question.
We have trained Lucy a fair bit to ignore the outdoor cats and it's probably the only reason she let fluff stay inside anyway
Now Lucy is just annoying to the cats but otherwise they all are fine with each other
They didn't always like Lucy's nose up their butts but they know she won't attack
Our neighbors are straight up terrified of Zeus. He's a big ol baby, but gives a good show to people passing by. 🤣
Lol some folks in the neighborhood are scared of Lucy since she's a pit mix, but my nextdoor neighbor knows she's a big softy
Our neighbor one side calls him Cujo. She likes coming into our yard to pick blackberries, and is always asking "Is Cujo put up, I wanna hop the fence for a bit." Lol
She won't listen when we tell her just come in and he'll leave ya alone. Don't just reach in to pet him tho....
Tbh, we didn't put enough time in with him when he was a puppy, as we had two other dogs when we got him. Our oldest was in a bad way, and so he got most of the attention. If we could do it over, we probably just wouldn't have gotten him when we did
But he was the pick of a litter of another stray my wife rescued, and subsequently gave to her sister...
Ours just has some barrier aggression. Like, if there's a fence between y'all, he growls and barks, and if you reach over, he'll nip your hand. But if you just walk in, he'll lick you to pieces.
This should give an idea of just how big he is. That's the window of my wife's old car that he's just casually perched on ..
His mom was a lab mix, and we're pretty sure his dad was a boxer mix I caught in our yard one afternoon.
So he's a lapdog





