the-water-cooler

[unborn merlin]

no ECC memory yeah; but.. ehh.. I'll survive

[ocean oar]

I've been running my NAS on a Minisforum MS-01 (12600H), perfectly survivable

[unborn merlin]

I'm aiming to collapse a few different weird servers into a sin gle box probably.

[ocean oar]

About the smallest thing out there capable of having both a SAS HBA and 10Gb Ethernet

I already had a desktop-style JBOD (https://www.areca.com.tw/products/jbod-4038.html) so it's plugged into that

[unborn merlin]

9300 HBA thing, 10gb as well hopefully

gonna 3d print my own case because.. well I want to? 🤣

[robust river]

How can I find out what's using up all this disk space on my HAOS Pi install?

[young sigil]

You could try asking in a support channel, which this is not.

[crisp oriole]

@young sigil isnt this a mental support channel?

[crisp oriole]

omg.
🎵 Save this prompt. 🎵 AI working fine. 🎵 It wouldnt get any better.
🎵 Save this prompt. 🎵 And store it good 🎵 Before it thinks i gonna do rather.

[forest edge]

ugh I wish go2rtc wasn't such shit with jpg images

[forest edge]

this is cool part of modern tech used in older game tech. https://youtu.be/-LszrgZ_zxE?si=PAcHzoyfjIMkwvkc

[frank orbit]

Not smooth xD I even rolled back right away. To be honest since I started home assistant no update I did was ground breaking so Z2M was in auto update. Now I've read the docs I may delay it when I'm going to get some times. I've added the info in the configuration.yaml and this didn't change anything it seems.

[young sigil]

There are only a couple of simple configuration changes you have to make. See #1284966617670881350 I had a false start with one freedom English mistake (I used adaptor: instead of adapter:) and it required a HA restart but other than that went ok.

[frank orbit]

Yeah I've done them. But I would like to go one step further and compare the list of products with heavy change to make sure to identify them.
Also when I rolled back, any ZigBee devices lost all units values, it was weird. So I'm going to do that probably tomorrow

[glacial knot]

good to know that I shouldn't just let it auto update

[hardy apex]

The only issue I had, after a reboot, Z2M wouldn't start until I changed the log level from "warn" to "warning" in the .yaml

[glacial knot]

yea, mine is pretty minimal. I'll just chance it

changed my regex to allow x.y.0 releases 🙂

[twilit venture]

Z2M update went through fine with no issues. 2025 HA update broke many integrations though, so I had to roll that back.

[glacial knot]

=.= time to figure out what changed about the container 😮
[FATAL tini (7)] exec node failed: Operation not permitted

[forest edge]

thank you all you guinea pigs for your service

[glacial knot]

back for 1.42.0 for now

[crisp oriole]

making home assistant bug free

[glacial knot]

in this case, figuring out z2m. But yea

this is so weird o.0

[blissful zodiac]

First backup complete 👍

[glacial knot]

Nice

[blissful zodiac]

And then of course the transparency side of me kicks in.

[glacial knot]

ok, so that's super weird.
When I drop all capabilities from the container, I cannot exec /usr/bin/node
But all other limitations on it are fine? o.0

it's non-root, nosuid, read-only and all the other shenanigans

[glacial knot]

https://github.com/Ongy/argocd/blob/main/z2m/deployment.yaml#L30-L45 =.=

-.- https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/pull/25456 should have just kept the regex that prevents .0 releases....

[sterile wasp]

Well, here I am wanting to move HA from my Yellow to my NAS, but I was so stupid and updated to 2025.1 first. Secure backups are already biting my ass.

[primal laurel]

#1284966540617449515

[sterile wasp]

I don't need a thread, I'm just complaining.

I'm doing it in HA shell manually with scp instead.

[glacial knot]

How do the encrypted backups break migration? o.0

[primal laurel]

This is not the complaints channel unless you have a racoon problem

[sterile wasp]

Because Home Assistant Container doesn't allow you to restore a backup apparently.

[red rock]

It should?

It didn't before 2025.1, but it should now

[sterile wasp]

Yeah, the test run was with 2024.12. The more you know.

[red rock]

give it a shot with 2025.1 I would say

[sterile wasp]

No restore button under "Create my Smart Home". vOv

[red rock]

in 2025.1?

[sterile wasp]

Yes.

As said, the container version to run under Docker.

Alas, I can make do otherwise.

[iron granite]

This starts to be support and needs to go to the #1284966540617449515 channel.

[red rock]

Thanks for mentioning this, I just booted up a container and it should show

we'll look into this

[cyan island]

can anyone give me a quick hint on what i need to change in a blueprint to make it work with my switchs now that i updated z2m to 2.0?

[iron granite]

[cyan island]

guess i will have to make way with 8 automations instead 😦

[blissful zodiac]

How much of my internet activity is tracking? NextDNS is giving me a long red line with some of them.

I love the internet.

It's probably a good thing I'm paying for pro.

[forest edge]

gross

[small gulch]

is there a music assistant discord?

[lone dagger]

There is! I don’t have a link handy myself, though.

[iron granite]

https://discord.gg/kaVm8hGpne

[primal laurel]

#1284966617670881350 for support

[teal elbow]

Trained my first voice

up: Microsoft TTS(currently using)
down: my TARS voice running locally on a raspberry pi 4
*will be faster once i offload piper to my home server

[tender forum]

Wish Music Assistant and Meshtastic didn't have very similar icons.. I keep thinking it's a Meshtastic integration and I get excited 😄

[iron granite]

Well... what if I tell you, there is a Meshtastic integration?

[tender forum]

There is?! I haven't looked at it in a while. Via HACS?

[iron granite]

No. Core functionality.

[tender forum]

Shut the front door! Quick, to the documentation!

[iron granite]

Meshtastic can connect to a MQTT broker and that can be integrated in HA. There is also documention for this on the Meshtastic website.

https://meshtastic.org/docs/software/integrations/mqtt/home-assistant/

[tender forum]

Nice.. I tried probably a year ago and didn't get very far. Will have to dig in to this. Yay, another project 😄

[nimble mulch]

What is the normal expected speed on whisper? I get up to 10s and I am running HA on intel i5 in a VM

[teal elbow]

what language?

[nimble mulch]

english

[teal elbow]

weird, whisper is suppsed to be fastest in english

if you don't mind it being online, i can recommend microsoft TTS (free forever version)
fast af and works in all languages

[static schooner]

please move this to #1284966915055288530

[glacial knot]

"forever" 😂

[solemn forum]

Hi 🟢 I have not set up anything here yet want to know if this will work for me to start with I have 3 cameras that are connected to computer via capture card then shows 3 images as 1. I need to stream that live from where can that be viewed without needing to download app for the viewing can I stream to my websit or what other options are there fir viewing and what sort of delay will that have can someone assist me with setup and what will that person charge me. What is the benefits of the paid version and how much are those fees

[jovial oxide]

That zigbee2mqtt add-on update was painful haha

It would be nice if the change log actually mentioned the breaking changes instead of just saying:

"Updated Zigbee2MQTT to version 2.0.0" 🤣

Oh well the actual release notes had an easy fix for the config

[teal elbow]

@nimble mulch please ping me there if you do

[solemn forum]

Hi 🟢 I have not set up anything here yet want to know if this will work for me to start with I have 3 cameras that are connected to computer via capture card then shows 3 images as 1. I need to stream that live from where can that be viewed without needing to download app for the viewing can I stream to my websit or what other options are there fir viewing and what sort of delay will that have can someone assist me with setup and what will that person charge me. What is the benefits of the paid version and how much are those fees

🟢Hi 🟢 I have not set up anything here yet want to know if this will work for me to start with I have 3 cameras that are connected to computer via capture card then shows 3 images as 1. I need to stream that live from where can that be viewed without needing to download app for the viewing can I stream to my websit or what other options are there fir viewing and what sort of delay will that have can someone assist me with setup and what will that person charge me. What is the benefits of the paid version and how much are those fees

[static schooner]

seems you posted the same thing twice

[solemn forum]

Sorry for repeats trying to figure out the chat am I only speaking to community or to admin as well

[static schooner]

everybody in a non-support channel

[glacial knot]

in this channel just 🦝s. But the devs are on the server

[static schooner]

seems like you should post in #1284966353798697001 -> Cameras

[solemn forum]

Can anyone in this chat group help me with setup and or answers if not how do I chat to support

[glacial knot]

Not in this channel. The link above to #1284966353798697001 will allow you to create a proper thread where people can help with camera specific topics

[solemn forum]

Thank you I will try that out can anyone here tell me once I setup what sort of delay will my stream run at

[solar zealot]

👀 how did you managed that

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/morning-raccoon-drawer-wake-up-gif-19328576

You called?

[solar zealot]

the crazy raccoon appeared

[static schooner]

Please just post in the right place

[last cedar]

I bet RobC has the same facial expression as that girl who is watching that guy put all the shapes into the square hole (if you know you know), right now

[glacial knot]

[static schooner]

<turns off camera in my family room because clearly Michelle is monitoring it>

[last cedar]

I will just make a hole and look at you from your loft. You know that sound you have been hearing. It is worse than you imagined

[teal elbow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fg7Ht0DSnE

got clips of the actor that played tars, and then put my GPU to use training them

[lone dagger]

Added to the ever increasing list.

[solar zealot]

sounds like something i need to try. available german voices are terrible

[glacial knot]

who do you want to train it with? Arni?

[last cedar]

He is Austrian right?

[tender forum]

I've started to... sigh.. force myself to finish projects. Not sure I'm a fan. Why do they keep making now shinies?

[last cedar]

Corporate greed

[teal elbow]

same for romanian on piper
thankfully i got azure voices for that

[glacial knot]

They speak something close enough to German

[lone dagger]

Every time I start a project I find an easier way to do what I am doing and then go down another path for the same project.

"fun"

[last cedar]

I just start 20 projects and they get done when they get done

#yolo

[glacial knot]

aka never

[lone dagger]

My actionable notifications went from tap > dashboard that was already made to a dashboard that is now catered to the task lists I am building.

[last cedar]

Nah, I mean, I do get on with stuff, but sometimes they just blur into eachother

[lone dagger]

I have had to mind map the flow of the automations for all this so I don't lose track of each step.

[solar zealot]

i cant ask for much. even having one similar to alexa or the default google would be a massive improvement

[last cedar]

Have to focus on my network at the moment, which is multiple projects in 1

[lone dagger]

A network really is.

Rebuilding networks is an entire industry.

[teal elbow]

you can even have your voice lol

but training takes some time
took me 16 hours on my 12GB 3060 OC

[solar zealot]

i would love not to have that. i like friendly female voices

[last cedar]

Vlans in the router and switch.

New NAS still want some new hardware for this

Sorting the arr stack on the new docker box

[stuck anchor]

and when you have bigger fights with the network equipment vendor provided modules for ansible and terraform than you have writing the automation code... sigh...

[teal elbow]

i got fascinated by jarvis as a kid
but a female assistant sounds cool too
will look into it

[solar zealot]

i just dont like it sounding harsh or tired all the time lol

thorsten is probably the best model available for german but its just terrifying

https://www.youtube.com/@ThorstenMueller this guy reading your messages ^^

the work done is quite nice

[glacial knot]

how hard is it to just run the training on a linux server?

[teal elbow]

you need a gpu

[teal elbow]

.

imagine this on a cpu

[glacial knot]

yea, we have a couple A5000s

[teal elbow]

then it will take you a few hours
you can use them in parralel

[teal elbow]

yk how i did mine ?
the clips of the actor speaking were too short
i fed that into some website that was able to make do with them, and i had like....15k of free tts characters

then i used that tts to speak out some sentences, and used that to train my model

so anything is possible. you can record enough samples in an hour to get a really good model

[lone dagger]

I think my CPU could handle it. But now that I am speaking up I guess maybe I should figure out what the CPU is again but I know it is high end...

[solar zealot]

i just need to convince myself to set up the tools on windows ^^

[teal elbow]

doesnt matter
a consumer cpu has maybe...16 cores
my 3060 has 3584 cores...and it took 16h

[solar zealot]

maybe i have enough time tomorrow

[lone dagger]

MOAR CORES

[teal elbow]

save yourself some time and dual boot ubuntu from the start
you won't get them on windows

[last cedar]

We all know that atx probably has a toilet with more cores than that

[glacial knot]

Oi! the GPU hosts we have also have 192 threads or so

[tender forum]

That new nvidia jetson orion might be good for it

[solar zealot]

no

its neither available nor any powerful

[teal elbow]

training is generally done on high power gpus, embedded stuff is just for running

[lone dagger]

We need him to wake up to tell us.

[glacial knot]

8G memory. It's shit for training

[tender forum]

Ah true, I was thinking just running

[glacial knot]

might be interesting as inference offload host.

[solar zealot]

yea that likely can work

tho i heard they have issues with outdated library compatibility atm

at least for the agx ones

[teal elbow]

my pc never went over 7gb (ram), while also streaming some youtube
if u talk about vram...that was 11.5g/12

[teal elbow]

honestly would love an orin nano
having a high power gpu...on low power

[glacial knot]

I'm not entirely sure what the memory spec is on the orion. Though it might even be shared

[solar zealot]

its not a high power gpu

[glacial knot]

I knew to look at memory, since we talkeda bout it recently at work. And that was the KO criteria

[teal elbow]

it is better than anything you'd find on an SOC

[solar zealot]

thats really not a measurement for powerful

[lone dagger]

We're using American measurements, Horst.

[teal elbow]

mb, did express it wrong

[solar zealot]

its about half of a 3050

[teal elbow]

you need about 6 bananas per eagle to consider the gpu powerfull

• i ain't american, just to be clear

[lone dagger]

Completely unrelated to the current convo but I got a squishy foot rest for my office and it's the best office thing I've bought this year.

[primal laurel]

what's the banana to freedom unit exchange rate these days?

[solar zealot]

did you buy that before or after bill broke your foot

[teal elbow]

hmmm
might consider one

[lone dagger]

Ask next week.

[iron granite]

Have you integrated that in HA?

[lone dagger]

It's fully local.

[tender forum]

Pressure sensor under it and...

[lone dagger]

I needed to raise my chair and I've got short legs.

[teal elbow]

vibration motor inside to remind you to get tf up and walk

[lone dagger]

Needed something. I like how it's plush and not a stepping stool.

[lone dagger]

That's what my Apple Watch yells at me for. 😄

[solar zealot]

does it use piper to do that?

[teal elbow]

i disabled movement alerts once when i was sick and never turned them back on

[glacial knot]

looks at all the jokes about people on washing mashines

you sure?

[teal elbow]

NO.

[last cedar]

Inb4 all the foot loving people ask for pics with your feet on it

[teal elbow]

ignore my terrible accent lol
But i love this thing

[forest edge]

not impressed till it randomly picks a movie or tv show and starts it automatically

[teal elbow]

i don't think netflix has that level of not sucking-ness

i could emulate keypresses and just have it log into my account and scroll for a random number of times before clicking

but not worth it since i stopped my netflix subscription

[sage cedar]

Dear lord NO FEET PICS 🤮

[lone dagger]

No free feet pics.

[sage cedar]

I'll pay you not to

[lone dagger]

Don’t worry, I won’t provide any without payment and they wouldn’t be posted here.

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/toe-dip-cold-pool-gif-5887471628527350857

[static schooner]

only on Missy's OnlyFeet account

[teal elbow]

[sage cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-gif-23690476

[forest edge]

wtf

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-armpit-anime-gif-waifupits-gif-21392448

[weak musk]

Crowly fans

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/police-officer-super-troopers-security-state-park-gif-15950814341302266843

[desert cave]

Yeah I've noticed the nsfw rule seems more like a suggestion lol

[glacial knot]

What?

[desert cave]

There's been a few memes I've been surprised mods have let stay. Stuff that was probably pushing the line

[lone dagger]

Yeah it’s more “don’t post porn”.

If we get any complaints for any one specific thing we’ll remove it, though.

[desert cave]

Yah, no complaints haha. I was just amused.

[weak musk]

https://tenor.com/view/something-about-that-seems-inappropriate-inappropriate-nasty-michael-scott-dunder-mifflin-gif-15666791

[iron granite]

That's not entirely true. Food porn is welcome in #the-kitchen - not to be mistaken for porn with food.

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pizza-catpizza-begcat-catbeg-gif-22351867

[static schooner]

cats do not like pizza

[iron granite]

Maybe it wants to eat the human instead

[glacial knot]

maybe it just wants to take away the human's food

[static schooner]

and is excited that the human is fattening itself up

[glacial knot]

I'm trying to reverse my fattening
Again...

[static schooner]

Too many oliebollen?

When I weighed myself on the 1st, my scale put up a Happy New Year banner on the display and then told me I'd gained a pound. We're no longer speaking

[lone dagger]

lmfao

[tidal bronze]

So there's a difference?

[iron granite]

This is the Internet, so...

[tidal bronze]

Ah

[lone dagger]

Tonight we get to find out if my ADHD-friendly robot vac automation works well enough. We will:

• Receive an actionable notification telling us to clear the floor for Rosey.
• If no action is done on the notification, the vacuum won't run that night.
• Tapping Remind me later will rerun the script after waiting 30 minutes.
• If we confirm we've cleared the floor, it will trigger the robot vac to run at 1am in specific rooms.

[ocean oar]

And here I thought I was being clever linking the speed of the fan in the office to a combination of the PIR sensor for occupancy + speed proportional to the temperature

[lone dagger]

It's a fun collection of automations + a script.

[midnight adder]

damn... that reads like a super hard math textquestion 😄

[lone dagger]

This is why I needed to mind map my plans!

[midnight adder]

also it reminds me of I imagine me writing super cool home assistant automation like this... which even after 5 days of intense work won't work a bit 😄

[lone dagger]

I have done so much of this in tiny steps.

First I got the actionable notifications working the way I wanted them to. Then I found a blueprint that would help me add recurring todos back to the list. Last night was the last piece of the puzzle for this when I had the integration owner for Roborock help me get cleaning rooms properly.

That's the thing that will be tested tonight.

[midnight adder]

damn where is my charger

help

[midnight adder]

I really have to watch a complete tutorial or something about all of this...

some stuff is just not intuitive enough to be understood by my brainz

[lone dagger]

And the little QoL thing I did for my husband was make a dashboard for tasks that has subviews for each type of task I have notifications for and make sure tapping on the notification brings you to the relevant dashboard.

Subviews that have literally just a panel or two on them.

H A F

[midnight adder]

one notification I have setup that should warn me when the grow light in my tent is on (when it shouldn't). Kinda does it ... inverted, sometimes earlier sometimes never or later 😄

[midnight adder]

uh hard to imagine right now but sounds cool

[ocean oar]

Acceptance factor is important. I got a good win in that area yesterday, my partner was going out (motorcycling), called me due to forgetting the garage door remote (there are a lot of stairs from our house to our garage, understand not wanting to come back and get it).
I got to whip out the "garage door control's in Home Assistant" line 😄

[midnight adder]

"FUTURE IS NOW"

[lone dagger]

"We don't need no sticking remotes!"

[ocean oar]

I always laugh at the number of layers of things that happen just to make that door open though.

• Push button in app
• Delivered by HA cloud to server
• MQTT button drops payload
• LoRa gateway picks up MQTT, transmits over the air
• LoRa relay wired to garage door opener fires to open door

[lone dagger]

Another dumb QoL thing I am doing is that for "harder" tasks I am creating an affirmation automation that tells us "you did the thing!"

Mostly as if Werner Herzog wrote it.

[midnight adder]

which thing?

very mysterious 😄

[lone dagger]

Something about acknowledging the futility of paying bills but still congratulating you that you did it to keep you from drowning in existential crisis sounds fitting.

[midnight adder]

do you tell positive but senseless affirmation to yourself all the time? 😄

[lone dagger]

Yes!

[midnight adder]

damn.. you connected HA to the last corner of your life obviously 😄

[lone dagger]

rofl I am still not great at writing anything in HA. I copy paste so much code.

[midnight adder]

I bet my right kidney that at least 20% of the people in IT are doing exactly the same ONLY 😄

[lone dagger]

lol you are not wrong!

And it is a great way to learn if you have the right people explaining things.

[midnight adder]

also count me to those

I've been like this since 1990

manual? naaahh... let me break this and figure this out 😄

not too proud of this 😄 but in the end I'm happy I'm not a 9-5-IT-guy staring at the screen for money (I do it for free with way more joy :D)

was close tho!

now my only goal is to get my Tegridy Farm certified by HomeAssistant

[lone dagger]

A lot of my friends I made while working on the Edge team are sysadmins who are miserable.

It's such a thankless job.

[midnight adder]

yeah... been working in dark studios ... for years and almost no money. Made me sick literally

[young sigil]

Are you using an LLM with an "in the style of Werner Herzog" or just making it up yourself?

Either way, it's awesome.

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/neil-patrick-harris-shudder-shrug-disgusted-gif-13575156

[lone dagger]

Hahaha using an LLM in his style. It’s working quite well.

[lone dagger]

Is this in response to Edge, having friends, or them being sysadmins?

[midnight adder]

is it the Edge that Linkin' Park sing about in "Closer to the Edge"?

[lone dagger]

Microsoft isn’t that clever.

[iron granite]

In the end it doesn't even matter

[clear ferry]

Working as a sysadmin, purgatory for competent It people

[midnight adder]

I for one welcome the new Microsoft AGI Overlords

[iron granite]

🎶

[primal laurel]

Sys admins are the plumbers of the IT world

[midnight adder]

Have you opened a ticket?

[primal laurel]

Only get recognition when there's not enough people willing to do the job

[midnight adder]

what color are you? 😄

[lone dagger]

Cyan

[midnight adder]

I mean probably depends on the people asking 😄

and how deep you're in your selfhate-burnout-spiral already

[lone dagger]

lol I’m actually probably Neutral.

[midnight adder]

the worst! j/k

"mimimi your problem is not IT's emergency mimimimi"

[lone dagger]

I’m very “don’t interrupt my processes” and no one gets special treatment.

[midnight adder]

yeah nowadays you have to do very good time management to actually get some work done between the 20 dailies, weeklies, monthlies, catchups ... and what not meetings 😄

[ocean oar]

Our team features (at least) people who are LG, NG, CG, LN, and NE to a tee.
I'm probably NG, on my good days.

[midnight adder]

well there you have it how bad the educational system is ... we all should be LG! 😄

[ocean oar]

I like watching other people interact with the lawful neutral

[midnight adder]

wait... LN!!

I mean LN 😄

yes, that's very good boy style 😄 management loves those who love company policy 😄

https://tenor.com/view/memo-boss-office-gif-7299171

sorry been reading C.G. Jung about how our society works a lot 😛 no front to people doing the important work

[simple gazelle]

I demand a ticket, not out of a sense of propriety, but because I have the object permanance of a toddler and I'll forget your issue.

[clear ferry]

I currently am a N in a POC project worth $14m with an addon of $100m first year then $100m second year

I also move you back in the queue if you nag though

[young sigil]

You should read BOFH instead.

[lone dagger]

-# not me here reading that as BOFA first

[clear ferry]

Classic bastard operator from Amsterdam

[clear timber]

I am a different one depending on who I am dealing with.

[civic rivet]

Schedule backups for selling storage, but not actual schedules in HA ayy

Maybe next year

[crisp oriole]

yes my voicemail system 3.0 is finished

perhaps some prompt optimalisation

[forest edge]

bad time to be out driving

[shell basalt]

the roads here in KC are pretty bad too

even some of the snow plows and salt trucks are off

[forest edge]

that is KC lol

[shell basalt]

oh

well yeah it sucks!

[forest edge]

went out back to smoke and about slid on my ass.. already a sheet of ice lol

[lone dagger]

Please don’t hurt yourself. That’s my role in this community.

[forest edge]

to hurt others or yourself? lol

or both

[lone dagger]

Yes?

I actually meant the latter.

[forest edge]

I would hate to be stuck in that

[lone dagger]

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze just another normal saturday for you in LA on the highway i'm sure lmao

you don't need ice to be stuck in traffic

@shell basaltyour south end right? down by grandview?

[shell basalt]

right at the grandview triangle, which is probably where that traffic you're showing is headed

its where I-49, I-435, and I-470 meet

[forest edge]

that was actually north

[shell basalt]

well i know part of the triangle is closed down causing similar back ups

[forest edge]

triangle looks closed for business lol

[shell basalt]

yup.. people are going to be screaming about the "treatments" .. its still above 25, most road treatments should still be working

[forest edge]

first freeze of the year.. people are going to be chaotic regardless

[shell basalt]

the second wave of freezing rain is coming thru right now actually

[forest edge]

have to wait and see if that 7-10" snow prediction comes true

[gusty belfry]

Well that was a mistake. I hit the "invert" button on my blinds and they inverted, and now won't un-invert

[lunar nimbus]

is there a way for me to find an outdated Zigbee2mqtt add-on in Home Assistant so the add-on will actually work?

[rich epoch]

Anybody know why all my aqara p1 sensors all stopped working at the same time? 🤔🤨

[gusty belfry]

Did 2.0 break for you?

[lunar nimbus]

I can't even get the add-on started, I'm a fresh user with 1 zigbee device working from my old HA container but because I couldn't get my Zigbee2mqtt add-on to sync my device to HA container, I moved to HAOS VM

seems only 2.0 is available and per release notes its a "BREAKING" release

[gusty belfry]

2.0 can require you to add a line to your config yaml, read the logs when you start the addon, it explains everything and the error links to the github discussion with a solution.

[lunar nimbus]

which I don't even know why it's a release then

ok thank you I'll see if I can navigate there

[gusty belfry]

I just uninstalled Z2M and started using ZHA out of curiosity

[lunar nimbus]

how do I access configuration.yaml - is that different than the socat code under the Configuration tab in HA?

[gusty belfry]

yeah you need the fild editor addon

[warm helm]

See I tried to smarten mine up but instead I just kept delaying it

[gusty belfry]

@lunar nimbus
Under /homeassistant/zigbee2mqtt/configuation.yaml

serial:
adapter: zstack ⬅️ Add this line

[lone dagger]

That’s why I basically built in an expectation we’ll do that. The vacuum won’t run unless we hit that Confirm button - if it doesn’t happen overnight that means I have to do it all during the day anyway.

We have 3 pets, one a German Shepard who sheds more hair than I’ve ever thought possible, and hard floors.

[rich epoch]

All the aqara P1 motion sensors show as "disabled" in z2m... None of my lights are working. I'm guessing an update but do t really feel like spending my evening troubleshooting in the dark... I'd rather spend time with my kids. Anybody have any ideas top of min why this might have happened and what might fix it?
Links to documentation are awesome! 🙏

(rephrase) lights work, just not the automations with the sensors.

[warm helm]

Part of my issue is this shark is not very good at clearing out the door that empties into the base and so now its behind on getting the carpet picked up. I have a dog now as the cat passed a few months ago and its still picking up cat hair, next steps is to get rid of furniture that the vac gets stuck on

[forest edge]

this server is such a good reminder about why not to go too heavy on automation

[warm helm]

Depends on what you mean. If I can automate something out of me doing it then I am going to. Then again I am in the process of dumping my entire brain into obsidian

[lone dagger]

Ah yeah I can see that being a problem.

[warm helm]

I have dug myself a hole, I know I should get a different vacuum but those aren't cheap and I really want one with a mop despite my kitchen being a 2 second swiffer job

[rich epoch]

2 seconds with swiffer beats changing dirty mop water and mop pads and the mop cleaning brush, and the mop filter, and the water filter... 🤷🏽‍♂️

[lone dagger]

I like the mop on ours but basically that. ^^^

Like I get a better result doing my own run through with our cloth pad mop.

[warm helm]

Yep, that is why I haven't upgraded to one. The shark I have can mop but it is a whole different dust bin that can't use the self-empty dock so basically useless since it can't really be automated. Also, I just tried to run it and the dust bin door is open :/

[unborn merlin]

wheres your certificate of 'have worked retail' 😛

[warm helm]

I don't wish retail employment on anyone, especially this time of year

[unborn merlin]

I worked retail pharmacy for 5 years.

Including during covid.

https://tenor.com/view/tough-spongebob-squarepants-mom-gif-15785435

[warm helm]

I left retail(enterprise car rental) in october of 2019. Escaped just barely

[unborn merlin]

enterprise car rental is nothing compared to karen who wants her xanax..

🙃

😛

or parents screaming over not having tamiflu for their snotty kids (when its too late for the 100$ medication to actually help the kid.)

[warm helm]

Probably not but getting accused of intentionally ruining the holidays was fun when they waited until the day before to try to rent a suburban. Lady my job is to put you in a car...

[ocean oar]

When I'd just moved to this city, I worked in the bakery department at the train station supermarket briefly.
Turns out that people a hilariously shitbaggish when they're in a hurry 😄

[unborn merlin]

"Oh yes I'm so sorry you forgot to talk to your doctor in advance for your vacation for medication that you require that I do not take."

[primal laurel]

Worked in a supermarket for quite some years during high school and college. Was a fun job, paid well for my age. We had parties, free beer after work. Man I miss that job lol

[ocean oar]

I swear one in ten of the high school I went to worked at the supermarket around the corner from the school

[warm helm]

Good news, shark did finally decide that saving the power level was a good idea. Why would I want to run a vac on anything less than full power is beyond me

[ocean oar]

Was ridiculous

[warm helm]

That's how my school was, pretty much everyone's first job was that store. Sad thing is a few people still work there as baggers, they never tried to move up in the last 20 years or couldn't

[unborn merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-tech-tips-ltt-bug-gif-19900847

[primal laurel]

The kids that stayed got promoted to team lead or shift lead

I was 'warehouse' lead

[ocean oar]

I had two jobs when I was at school, neither of which was at a supermarket, and both were quite random.
Worked afternoons doing clerical stuff (filing and mailing, mostly) for a radiologist. Sundays at a wholesale bakery (NZers love meat pies, and this company made around 100,000 of them a week).

[warm helm]

I worked at the other place that most of the kids did, a car wash before moving on

[primal laurel]

I worked at so many places

[unborn merlin]

Why am I getting a feeling a mod will be appearing..

[warm helm]

Yeah, funny enough most of mine have been first job adjacent. I moved into IT but still work for a different gas station chain

[iron granite]

[primal laurel]

But at some point in college you can get a side job which is relevant to your degree. And it usually pays a lot better as well

[tidal bronze]

That ain't the 405.

[warm helm]

Getting Started?

[primal laurel]

Some people turn their side job into a real job at the same company lol

[warm helm]

Jumping to a different job usually ends up paying better. 4% vs 75% when I left

[unborn merlin]

murica: taht's why we make it as hard as possible for people to do that, hope you don't get injured or need healthcare when you change! /s

yes we get it; you are explicitly here to be adversarial for no reason. 🙄

[warm helm]

Its not the clicks, its makes more sense when you're starting from 0 for new users

[lunar nimbus]

can't start it I think I'm further along but do I need to replace anywhere for my port: tcp://10.4.0.100:6638 szlb-06 zigbee coordinator?

[unborn merlin]

don't feed the troll.

[warm helm]

I have installed ha all of like 4 times total for 2 different installs. Its pretty stable, I don't often need the download links

[primal laurel]

What do you mean by 75% ?

[iron granite]

[primal laurel]

Well you clearly do

[warm helm]

Old job gave me a 4% raise over the prior year. New job was what I made plus 75% of my old salary on top

[unborn merlin]

guys..

don't feed the troll

just ignore em; I saw the username they had set before they went changing it.. and fairly clear they're only here to troll.

[lunar nimbus]

anyone know why zigbee2mqtt wouldn't start? Getting this:

[2025-01-04 20:00:23] info: z2m: Logging to console, file (filename: log.log)
[2025-01-04 20:00:23] info: z2m: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 2.0.0 (commit #unknown)
[2025-01-04 20:00:23] info: z2m: Starting zigbee-herdsman (3.2.1)
[2025-01-04 20:00:23] info: zh:zstack:znp: Opening TCP socket with 10.4.0.100:6638
[2025-01-04 20:00:23] info: zh:zstack:znp: Socket connected
[2025-01-04 20:00:23] info: zh:zstack:znp: Socket ready
[2025-01-04 20:00:23] info: zh:zstack:znp: Writing CC2530/CC2531 skip bootloader payload
[2025-01-04 20:00:24] info: zh:zstack:znp: Skip bootloader for CC2652/CC1352
[2025-01-04 20:00:31] error: z2m: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
[2025-01-04 20:00:31] error: z2m: Failed to start zigbee-herdsman
[2025-01-04 20:00:31] error: z2m: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/20_zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start_crashes-runtime.html for possible solutions
[2025-01-04 20:00:31] error: z2m: Exiting...
[2025-01-04 20:00:31] error: z2m: Error: SRSP - SYS - stackTune after 6000ms

[solar zealot]

#find-support

[iron granite]

#1284966617670881350 with the "Zigbee" tag might be able to help

[forest edge]

this server allows nickname changing?

I thought that was disabled

[unborn merlin]

🤷‍♂️

[tidal bronze]

How so?

[iron granite]

Only if you change your main profile nickname

[forest edge]

we're one post away from, "Hey guys can anyone help me fix my bathroom light automation.. i'm stuck in the shower with soap in my eyes with only my phone screen light to see anything"

[unborn merlin]

I mean..

it depends on how you set things to start with.

also can't wait to see more goddamned smart switches using mmwave.. 😐

[tidal bronze]

Soap?

[forest edge]

tree hugger

[primal laurel]

Whats wrong with mmwave

[lunar nimbus]

I'm a treehugger and woodworker - what's the problem

[warm helm]

I mean are you really into home automation if you haven't had that expierence?

[primal laurel]

I'm am electron hugger

[unborn merlin]

nothing; In fact its better than PIR sensors in bathrooms especially since itll penetrate tile and etc..

but there aren't many smart switch products that use it, yet?

in fact as far as I know this is the only one? https://inovelli.com/products/zigbee-matter-blue-series-mmwave-presence-sensor-smart-dimmer-switch

and boy is that horrendously costly...

[primal laurel]

No I think you buy them separately

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-bell-game-of-thrones-walk-of-atonement-cersei-lannister-gif-16635977892557113898

[unborn merlin]

yeah but.. sometimes thats obnoxious finding a place to put things.. especially in a bathroom?

it'd be real nice to just have it integrated in such a case.

[primal laurel]

Yeah would be nice. With zigbee

[warm helm]

The issue with light switches is that the placement isn't alway great, my bathroom has 1 switch pointed at the toliet, the other though is pointed at a blank wall with the bedroom on the other side and its narrow enough that I doubt the first switch would catch someone in the shower

[unborn merlin]

zigbee.. thread... I don't really care.. 😐

preferably not zwave because of the licensing fees tho? 🙃

[primal laurel]

Zwave is always expensive

[tidal bronze]

I think soap is your issue, not heavy automation

[noble kraken]

what about an automated soap dispenser?

[warm helm]

When in doubt make sure you add extra steps to all automations

[tidal bronze]

Again soap?

[warm helm]

Looks in technithusiast's direction

[unborn merlin]

Does work fine tho.

... though I will admit I do wish my schlage door lock thing had a goddamn backup battery input on the outside

[forest edge]

some people actually like to be clean and not just rely on UV rays from the sun to disinfect

[tidal bronze]

Haven't heard that word in ages. Strange things in middle earth I guess.

[unborn merlin]

zwave?

[forest edge]

soap

[static schooner]

just use lye

[forest edge]

prob coats himself with cooking oils

[warm helm]

Where is the photo of the kids standing in front of a massive UV light

[forest edge]

https://i.imgflip.com/6t7wna.jpg

[ocean oar]

This one?
https://www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolCool/comments/80wbzf/uv_lamp_light_baths_were_given_to_soviet_kids_in/

[tidal bronze]

Just butter today, no oils in crab boil

[warm helm]

Yep

[forest edge]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRNm00mt3_fkOzD9ftn_RaMhm7JmthIwQy3Un8JGaoTTTFGRFSqXol6qQldp0MNvZ5-PYQ&usqp=CAU

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/kramer-hi-turkey-sienfeld-dinner-gif-11652317

[tidal bronze]

Interesting how gpt and deepseek comes up with identical automations.

[forest edge]

using ai to write automations? thought that was taboo in here

damn sideways freezing rain

[warm helm]

Still waiting for it to look at the things I do manually to suggest automations

[primal laurel]

That's the bare minimum considering what a zwave setup costs

[unborn merlin]

yeah

and they've been good so far on support at least.. the membrane part that holds the keys broke down; emailed and they just sent me a new part for that no cost. 🤷‍♂️ after.. like.. 5 years now?

but the battery things annoying.. And I have considered just getting some circuit setup with like.. a latching relay of some sort that powers it from a wall-wart around the corner from the door and if the power goes out then it falls-back to battery..

[tidal bronze]

So?

[primal laurel]

Nothing wrong with AI code as long as you validate it. The problem is people dumping AI code which doesn't work and has hallucinations in it

[warm helm]

I do wonder if I could reliably tell I am in a deep sleep to trigger the vacuum at night. I sleep on the same floor that it is on so maybe I could sleep through it

[unborn merlin]

some mmwave sensors can do this sorta thing, yeah. (re: all the smart screens that sit on bedsides tend to use this I think?)

[tidal bronze]

Suggested AI automations are garbage anyways.

Good at improving existing logic, well, to an extent.

[warm helm]

I have mmwave, withings sleep, Google hub and watches. Not really expose a you are asleep. The withings kinda does in that one a time to sleep value updates

[primal laurel]

Yeah it's the same with most other things

Which is funny because some people claim it will replace programmers

[tidal bronze]

I was thinking the other day, will it ever use my gpm sensor as a condition in master bath for shower light timeout.

[unborn merlin]

yeah sadly the google one doesn't 🤔

maybe there's an esphome build that does it. 🤷‍♂️

[hexed ether]

Are there any good guides for passing an nvidia GPU through from proxmox to a home assistant + frigate NVR (as addon) VM?

[unborn merlin]

I mean are we talking exclusive passthrough?

Because thats dead simple you just give it the PCI device.

[lone dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/fever-sick-flu-parks-and-rec-everything-hurts-gif-5394213

[hexed ether]

I think so? It’s the only vm that needs gpu capabilities for frigate inferencing. It is my only display card in the server though too

but i really only access proxmox through the web ui

[unborn merlin]

then it shouuld be fine? 🤷‍♂️

[hexed ether]

how do I "give it the pci device"? lol

[unborn merlin]

... this is a discord for homeassistant and you're asking some Really basic proxmox questions.. 😐

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=proxmox+pci+device+passthrough&l=1

[hexed ether]

in a water cooler channel which presumably is for talking about anything. a question related to homeassistant because that is the vM i'm passing to while working on getting the frigate nvr integration working. if being scolded for asking a question is how this community behaves, i'll just leave. good bye.

[unborn merlin]

support acutally belongs in #find-support

And its not a "homeassistant support" question for "proxmox pcie passthrough"

[unborn merlin]

^ also no. 🤣

[slate mulch]

Not sure if this falls into a predefined channel since it relates to themes and there isn't a direct channel for that, but one could argue #1284965988642590891 ? Idk, anyways, I'm am wondering if there exist a tool/software to help with CSS theming, or does everyone that makes the themes just do all of that by hand? Just trying to gauge the workload really

[static schooner]

yes, #1284965988642590891

[unborn merlin]

Man they don't make hard drives like they used to.. 💔

wimpy little magnets instead of chunky boys that I can re-use on my workbench's shelf to hang tools.. 🤣

[static schooner]

Wait till you see SSDs 🙂

[unborn merlin]

yes yes, you know what I mean tho.. these tiny wimpy magnets won't even break if I let go of em. 💔

[glacial knot]

I haven't opened any harddrives in a while. so I'm not sure what you mean D:

[unborn merlin]

one moment..

older drive magnet on the left.

You can also tell its basically.. three times as thick as one of the other magnets (there are two ontop of each other from the new drives)

[glacial knot]

oh wow

yea, I'm famailiar with the old ones

[unborn merlin]

I mean I know why

but..

I still miss being able to pull scrap drive magnets for hanging tools on a bar.. 🤣

[nimble kernel]

hey guys i got a question.. im trying to automatically set a state of something to "idle" because it is "unavaliable" at start up, but switching to idle works even though its unavaliable... how do I do this?

[young sigil]

you ask in a support channel.

[vapid sonnet]

Just found out that my lights are no longer supported by the govee hacs integration…

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/freezing-the-shining-winter-gif-17311436147560701372

Need a pre heater for my ventillation, it keeps having to defrost the heat exchanger

[static schooner]

Perhaps humans aren't supposed to live there

[unborn merlin]

the old one, or the Govee2MQTT one? 🤔

[last cedar]

I never thought of this, good thing I am a raccoon then!

[glacial knot]

Neat. have you unplugged the freezer already?

[last cedar]

I just threw all the food outside

[static schooner]

Home is a frozen dumpster

[last cedar]

@static schooner you make that sound like it is a bad thing

I had a visitor lastnight, impressed that the microphone on the camera picked up the sound of it moving

I lied, I actually had 2 visitors

[last cedar]

@clear ferry how is your weather? Colder than -16?

[clear ferry]

It was colder when I was in Oslo two days ago, -18 there

Inland up north is now -31 I think

[glacial knot]

and at your place?

[last cedar]

I recognise this graph....

Pretty cold anyway, dayum

Have -14.6C atm, now the sun is out

Honestly, it feels warmer than those pissing it down 4C wet winter days back in England

Very dry though, can hear when the cats (walking static balls) move, sounds like being around an arc fault

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ballon-static-funny-mean-gif-3460930

[clear ferry]

We don't see the sun until 8 more days

[atomic delta]

Love snow, love dry, and I'm much more okay with cold than heat. Doesn't sound too shabby.

[last cedar]

Oh yeah, that is mental

[clear ferry]

The difference between -30c inland vs 12c coastal is also interesting

The latter is colder

[last cedar]

Are you not hibernating until the sun comes up again?

How long were you without it? About a month?

Shortest day is 21st right?

December

[clear ferry]

2. Dec to 10. Jan sun is not above the Horizon

For my town

For Longyearbyen it is 26. Oct to 16. Feb

[supple fjord]

Don’t feel bad, mines don’t even have local control 😭

[forest edge]

@shell basalt https://youtu.be/pbDHc-Dc8OM?si=y38YkSmLV-ggEn2e

I read somewhere that they were trying to plan ahead to get the trucks to the delivery spot just before the storm hit and that's why there were so many on the road within KC around the same time

[fathom sparrow]

look at all that black ice

lol all amazon trucks 🤣

[stuck anchor]

you just triggered an idea. maybe i can pull my sleep state from my sleep cycle app that i use to wake me up to 30 mins before the scheduled wake up time based on how lightly i sleep. it could be interesting to make the sleep state available as a sensor in ha. hmm. but not today. the forecast says moar snow, so i have to go out, grab a shovel, and make room for it.

[forest edge]

lol yea alot of people gonna be wondering what happened to thier shit

heh https://youtu.be/LnD5gBa8LNY?si=xfyGQCZ7B2xTXjrg

[last cedar]

Holy shit haha

[blissful zodiac]

[static schooner]

It's a bold move by HA

[glacial knot]

we should just get big software providers to force the US to sanity

[blissful zodiac]

Made me laugh

[glacial knot]

I hope they deprecate weeks starting on sunday next

[blissful zodiac]

Actually they're in the server, the OP.

[blissful zodiac]

I'm one of the few Americans that use the Metric system.

[clear ferry]

The proper system

[clear ferry]

I always forget to change it when I install a new client on a system, and annoyed for weeks

[blissful zodiac]

Although this bar is starting to get a little full.

[forest edge]

metric.. gross

[stuck anchor]

a colleague of mine took some engineering degree in the us. his class thought he was very smart, since he always did calculations faster than them. he told me his big secret was to convert all inputs to metric and use the sane formulas. then convert back to imperial. instead of having all kinds of odd factors because the imperial units don't cooperate like the metrics ones do.

[young sigil]

Come back when you have to scroll to see the Settings menu.

[blissful zodiac]

Is it at least bookmarked for quick reference?

[warm helm]

Ummm can I get more inside than inside

[young sigil]

Don't need it most of the time. The main Settings submenu items I use are on that list.

Logs, Devices & Services, Addons.

[blissful zodiac]

How many devices you got?

[forest edge]

what

I have never seen so many squirrels active during a blizzard before

[solar zealot]

they are up to something

distracting you from the raccoon that will lick the camera

[forest edge]

it's 19F.. I wish one would lick the camera

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-and-dumber-frost-tongue-gif-13848134

[young sigil]

alarm_control_panel: 1
automation: 304
binary_sensor: 242
button: 179
calendar: 4
camera: 14
climate: 3
conversation: 1
device_tracker: 3
event: 2
fan: 3
group: 1
image: 5
input_boolean: 18
input_datetime: 12
input_number: 31
input_select: 19
input_text: 1
light: 62
lock: 2
media_player: 15
number: 98
person: 2
remote: 4
schedule: 9
script: 247
select: 96
sensor: 779
stt: 1
sun: 1
switch: 126
tag: 7
todo: 4
tts: 1
update: 99
vacuum: 2
weather: 2
zone: 6

[blissful zodiac]

I have less than 90 devices pepe_shrug

[fathom sparrow]

your definition of devices is probably different than what tom posted

put this in the template editor {{ states | count }}

[timber dock]

someone please help, i cant access my hassio even if it's running

[blissful zodiac]

If it was entities, it would probably be in the hundreds because of the TP Router integration.

[fathom sparrow]

please create a post in #1284966540617449515

[fathom sparrow]

put this in template editor:

devices: {{ states | map(attribute='entity_id') | map('device_id') | unique | reject('none') | list | count }}
entities: {{ states | count }}

[forest edge]

ugh the wind is blowing so hard that snow is blowing inside the barn

[fathom sparrow]

shut the barn door bro

[forest edge]

dosen't prevent it from blowing through the cracks

[fathom sparrow]

shut the door cracks too

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/fixed-understatement-gif-13752860

[forest edge]

I don't have enough devices

[fathom sparrow]

bro, you gotta disable what you don't need

[blissful zodiac]

I'm replacing some of my Tuyas since they aren't local.

[fathom sparrow]

I turn off everything that's of-no-use

like all the extra shit

[timber dock]

can you atleast help

[forest edge]

I have a crap ton of custom sensors

[blissful zodiac]

But I kinda superglued one together because people would unplug it instead of using the button.

I mean, it worked, people stopped unplugging it and used the button, but now it's hard to replace.

Which I guess is the price you have to pay to use psychology against your family so their behaivour is more expectable.

[young sigil]

devices: 239
entities: 2406

[stuck anchor]

@timber dock people will help you over there. if anyone here knows the answer they would answer there.

[shell basalt]

I can believe it, and the roads deteriorated rapidly .. then accidents happen, roads get blocked, which prevents snow plows and salt trucks from doing their job, leaving other roads missing out on treatment, which causes accidents.. at one point in time, the city just basically shutdown all the highways and said "you're on your own"

I'm not sure if they OFFICIALLY did that, but that was pretty much the sentiment because there were trucks and such blocking the way for hours, of which i'm sure the city is going to blame MoDOT and KDOT for all of it!

[forest edge]

i am surprised they didn't pretreat the roads earlier

blizzard rolled through a few hours ago. was insane

[forest edge]

going to be interesting to see the results tonight since we are suppose to continue to get snow fall till 8pm

[peak slate]

There is only adding entities, never removing

[warm helm]

BAD, no. Snow is bad

[tawny flume]

Hi Everyone, where did you get devices stats? Ha stats?

[dawn badge]

template for it is a few messages up

[warm helm]

`{% set ns = namespace(domains=[]) %}
{%- for s in states -%}
{%- set ns.domains = (ns.domains + [s.domain])|unique|list -%}
{%- endfor %}
I have {{ states|length }} states in Home Assistant.
By domain these are:
{%- for domain in ns.domains %}

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  {%- endfor %}`

[tawny flume]

Oh Nice thanks you!

[dawn badge]

ooo thats a nice one

[silent dove]

@warm helm I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[warm helm]

gives all the details

[dawn badge]

series numbers there

[silent dove]

@dawn badge I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[last cedar]

Only 779 sensors?

Wow

[warm helm]

Rookie numbers

[last cedar]

Incredible

[warm helm]

I should probably wipe my install, its got a lot of dead and unused things in that number

[last cedar]

Nah, just keep adding to it, for the epeen!@warm helm

Someone needs to put Sonoma in his place 🤣

[warm helm]

I bet their automations actually work though

[last cedar]

Not the one that stops raccoons licking his camera, apparently 😛

[warm helm]

or his power going out from the snow

[last cedar]

I guess it is like having that junk drawer at home

Everyone has 1 automation that just doesn't work

[warm helm]

I am having to redo a lot of mine, I got a dog recently and he triggers the mmwave and PIR sensors that my cat didn't. A 85lb ridgeback will do that

[last cedar]

Yeah, that will do it

Paradox make PIR sensors for 40kg pets, with dual sensors

But I don't think they work for anything other than cats

You should get the dog a tracker and use like ble proximity or something so it doesn't activate stuff haha

[warm helm]

Yeah, I usually just try to place them on shelves or cover the bottom with tape so it can't see his height.

[last cedar]

You could ride that thing into battle

Would you mind posting pictures? 😛

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dance-kitty-cute-funny-gif-18758419

[last cedar]

(Of the dog, dog tax must be paid)

[warm helm]

Working on it. I have presence tracking in every room, I just need to buy him a tag. There is also an automation I saw that turns on BLE tracking in esphome only when a mmwave is active to reduce the room hopping

[last cedar]

Interesting! Best of luck getting it all working anyway!

[warm helm]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-fight-boxing-wrestling-fighting-gif-5601769030538486753

[last cedar]

I don't think anyone could catch up, Atx maybe

[warm helm]

devices: 2675
entities: 8954

[fathom sparrow]

overkill much?

[warm helm]

Only the best kind of kill

[forest edge]

multiples of the same sensors i'm betting

backups of backups

[fathom sparrow]

or BLE

BLE in a city == 100K+ devices in a few days

[warm helm]

For sure have some, also tracking plex so I have media players from other people and I had my mom's house linked

[warm helm]

That's where my device tracker number comes from. I am not in the city but the main road to my neighborhood. Plus unifi

[fathom sparrow]

I disable all that shit

[warm helm]

Its not actively adding new devices anymore but its not harming anything and I am too lazy to delete

[fathom sparrow]

don't delete, just disable

takes 5 minutes

[daring jolt]

is this a known glitch or should i report it in the frontend issues

wait what

goes away when i switch my theme

and goes away when i switch it again

must've been temporary i guess

[fathom sparrow]

I don't have that with my theme

[daring jolt]

actually it came back upon hovering
i'll shut up for now and report back once i figure out what's going on

[forest edge]

apparently placing a space heater in front of another space heater works very well

[fathom sparrow]

i see it on hovering

[daring jolt]

firefox?

[fathom sparrow]

Yep

[warm helm]

Just need it to light the first on fire and then you will be real warm

[daring jolt]

i'll go raise the issue then

[warm helm]

The fact people are out driving around right now is concerning, though I bet sam's is empty

[forest edge]

well if where you are is anything where I am there is no shortage of people fighting to get clients to hire them to sprinkle some salt on thier driveways

[warm helm]

A friend of mine said if it snows he was going to snowblow my drive for free, he's also go the truck to do it. thing is on 40s

[forest edge]

turned off the second space heater in the garage and left the first one on and the garage temp already dropped 2 degrees lol

like within a minute

[teal elbow]

My space heater is this GPU

[warm helm]

Insulate. Also there is a semi truck backwards on on the highways, looking at this camera

[warm helm]

That's kinda my plan for this room, just need friends to wake up to game

[teal elbow]

im training voice models
been running for 6h at nearly 100%

at least i can say it's 100% energy efficient since i didnt use any heating besides the nvidia heater

[forest edge]

my server sits in this room with just a 1060 in it and it does a great job of burning me out

have to open a window slightly from time to time

[teal elbow]

havent closed mine in 4h

[warm helm]

You must not be in the winter wonder land

[teal elbow]

1c outside

[warm helm]

It's 20f here so -7c and I am freezing

Wool socks are life

[forest edge]

just dropped to 18F here

don't think it's suppose to get any colder till tomorrow tho

[sage cedar]

You're all making me feel cold.

[teal elbow]

thanks to global warming, we dont have snow anymore in eastern Europe
just mud lol

[warm helm]

Just sharing the misery

[last cedar]

The first one is just a preheater! Don't set your electric socket on fire though

[warm helm]

He would be real warm then

[last cedar]

It's ok, I ordered the extra that you didn't get

[static schooner]

Has the snow cleverly covered all the raccoon tracks?

And fox, or whatever that was

[last cedar]

I use a hoverboard to deter predators

[warm helm]

But it's underground

[last cedar]

Oh, fox came this morning, that picture was taken yesterday

[static schooner]

The fact that a hoverboard doesn't actually hover is devious

https://tenor.com/view/rollin-hoverboard-theyseemerolling-watchme-anyonecandoit-gif-4891646

[last cedar]

It does with the weight of a single raccoon

[midnight sphinx]

howdy ya'll, super excited to see the backup improvements in 2025.1, I can't seem to see if anyone is working on plugins for B2 (Backblaze)... tried searching the forum.

[static schooner]

Frenck is, I believe

[warm helm]

Installing spook was either a great idea or a terrible one. I am going to be busy fixing things

[static schooner]

It's great at finding things that need to be fixed anyway

That's all I use it for

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-reality-colored-keyboard-hacking-typing-gif-17405107

[warm helm]

35 things right away. Mostly missing or changed entities

[last cedar]

Most of HA people now with the latest z2m update

[warm helm]

I haven't updated that yet

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/calculating-puzzled-math-confused-confused-look-gif-14677181

More like

[last cedar]

Make sure to read breaking changes, there are quite a few!

Maybe

[static schooner]

And make sure you know how to edit a text file

A lost art, apparently

[warm helm]

If I did that, I couldn't complain on reddit though

[last cedar]

🤣

To be fair....

Didn't see a single post by anyone who manually updated and had issues

[warm helm]

I saw 2. One fixed it themselves by turning on legacy mode though

[last cedar]

It seems like auto-update has been the cause of most issues, which is of course, user error anyway

[glacial knot]

I did. The fix was merged today though
and is somewhat k8s specific

[last cedar]

Aha, good to know, thanks!

So really, you should enable legacy mode, update, then redo everything, is the proper way to do it I guess

Not the 15 year temporary solution like most things end up being

[static schooner]

It's annoying that Z2M just exits if it can't open the adapter. I wish that it would start and let you fix what's wrong in the UI

[last cedar]

Aha! Also good to know

[static schooner]

It just gets into a startup loop

That will never be fixed

[vapid sonnet]

Old

[last cedar]

This is probably where I will get stuck, i have a zzh that shows up as something like /dev/ttyl or something can't remember exactly

[teal elbow]

daamn
where's that?

[last cedar]

Good think the compose file remembers

[tidal bronze]

It's been like this for ages. Makes little sense

[last cedar]

Sweden, a little south of Stockholm, roughly. And it isn't that bad either. We got a little snow, maybe 10cm then it went down to -15C ish, it is warmer tommorow, looks like another 10cm snow coming then

[midnight adder]

Why is CPU Speed not available?

[last cedar]

Obviously this is a great time for me to redo my HA box entirely, so I can troubleshoot another 200 things with z2m as well!

[static schooner]

I mean, the UI options are there. I'm not sure what for, though

[warm helm]

Time to proxmox cluster it

[last cedar]

What is it looking at (hardware)

[midnight adder]

Thats just the section

[last cedar]

I am considering it

[last cedar]

I meant, CPU speed of what? And what is it running? Is it an integration that is reading a "sensor"?

[last cedar]

Because it might be better to ask in another channel in that case

[static schooner]

It all mostly works as it did before. You just need to turn on all the legacy options

[midnight adder]

Its on a rpi

[midnight sphinx]

I have 7 swtichbot tilt curtain (bluetooth) devices... and even though I have two bluetooth adapters on my home assistant (RPI3 running HAOSS) with the retries set to 5 it often fails to execute automations... it worked much better before I exceeded what would be the max number of connections...

Has anyone had good luck using multiple adapters? Or do I need to do bluetooth proxies with ESPHome or something?

I also have an AirThings BT air quality sensor that I want polled frequently.

[last cedar]

I would probably post in #1284966582375813201 in that case!

[lone dagger]

@young sigil I think doing it this way helps me smile at the notifications instead of “ugh yeah fine”.

[last cedar]

You could replace "black birds" with "raccoons"

[warm helm]

Where did you get the Edgar Allen Poe AI?

[last cedar]

Apart from the flying bit

[last cedar]

Probably best to post in #1284966353798697001 ? I would think.

[static schooner]

Flying raccoons are nightmare fuel

[lone dagger]

It’s my LLM being told to respond as if it were Werner Herzog.

[tidal bronze]

New HA box not done yet?

[midnight sphinx]

@last cedar: yeah, I figure it's probably not related to the integration itself, rather bluetooth in general

[static schooner]

It's well known that raccoons can't fly, fortunately
https://images.app.goo.gl/3JJi4kTFNm6SJYbr9

[midnight sphinx]

I'm surprised this isn't a more commonly encountered issue. The docs seem to make it sound like on Linux multiple adapters are supported/work fine. Which makes me wonder if it's something else entirely, like interference.

[tidal bronze]

Great! HACS is not starting

[lone dagger]

Did you do the update?

[last cedar]

It could be weeks

[static schooner]

You need to update

[lone dagger]

Should I avoid it???

[tidal bronze]

Please hold!

[static schooner]

Then maybe you can help https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1325494778791592057

[tidal bronze]

https://github.com/hacs/integration/issues/4314 MASS was the issue. Up and running

[last cedar]

I decided to update codeproject ai onto yolo5 .net from yolo8 this morning, and then added 2 more vlans and moved machines, so the new HA box has to wait a bit more 😄

Oh, it is a .0 release?

Are these not the ones you roll out to laugh at everyone who has auto-update on? 😄

[lone dagger]

“I have an issue!”
looks up issue after posting
“Never mind! I didn’t look things up.”

[tidal bronze]

Google was faster than Discord

[lone dagger]

There’s no support here anyway. Mod.

[tidal bronze]

You gottsa try things you know.

[static schooner]

Starting...now!

[last cedar]

Slip in a little text about raccoons around the question, it usually works for me

Like... Oh, I have an issue, this raccoon broke in, stole my cat food and update my box to 2025.1.0 and now HACS isn't working. Can someone evict it and help me get HA working?

[tidal bronze]

Did I remove music assistant from HACS????? hmm

[static schooner]

You should.

[last cedar]

It was obviously that raccoon who broke in

[tidal bronze]

Now I did from .storage

[last cedar]

I am so glad I haven't updated yet reading all the stuff going on

[tidal bronze]

Now the question remains.....Z2M

[glacial knot]

no updates since 2023?

[tidal bronze]

Always upgrade without reading, fix what's broken!

[static schooner]

It's fine. Bite the bullet and do it

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-darkside-star-wars-evil-innerme-gif-13048146

[last cedar]

Hypothetical for you.

If the update breaks your eyes, so you can't read how to fix it, and makes your hands fall off so you can't physically fix it, what would you do then?

[static schooner]

Make a copy of your data dir and nothing bad can happen

[tidal bronze]

and.....don't you ever rollback!

[static schooner]

Rollback is for the weak

[tidal bronze]

Are you sure we are talking about HA update here?

[static schooner]

Then you're clearly in The Matrix and all is lost

https://tenor.com/view/neo-mouthshut-matrix-blue-pill-gif-22455602

[glacial knot]

do you not have any cybernetics?

[tidal bronze]

Not on Sundays

[warm helm]

if my hands fall off, either too many drugs or not enough

[last cedar]

Obviously!

[last cedar]

I would agree 100%

To be fair, just yoloing it is probably a better learning experience

[lone dagger]

Update

It did not work.

But only because the parameters for the vacuum command automation didn’t have a hyphen.

[last cedar]

And probably leads to the better solution, rather than just slapping a bandaid on and allowing legacy stuff until version 3 or so

Those bloody hyphens

So it will work tonight I assume!

[lone dagger]

I was like IS THIS WRONG and the integration owner was like, you need a hyphen.

Ran the automation after and she’s cleaning the rooms selected.

[warm helm]

Not if the errant space is still there

[lone dagger]

[short forge]

I got a new Router.

[last cedar]

Shh, don't spoil Missys fun

[lone dagger]

Nah, it’s definitely fine now.

[warm helm]

I need someone else to live my past nightmares

[last cedar]

Hahaha

[static schooner]

I sense an installation question coming...

[short forge]

And its amazing. It has zigbee hub built in, 2x2.5G, 2 1G ports, free 150gb cloud, free streaming, and its frotzbox.

[last cedar]

I bet that was a frustrting experience

[short forge]

fritzbox, not frotzbox

[lone dagger]

Frotzbox sounds better anyway.

[warm helm]

If only happened once. A lot of my job is tracking them down when the automatic imports to the db fail

[lone dagger]

Who wants a box on the fritz?

[warm helm]

Last one was a tab

[tidal bronze]

What make model?

[static schooner]

And less annoying than Fritz!Box

[last cedar]

Had no idea something like that had a built in zigbee hub!

[static schooner]

Sounds kinda suspicious

[warm helm]

My concern with it being built in is that it likely locks you into their app

[last cedar]

Hyphen version 27.3 from hyphensareus

Oh, the vaccuum

[glacial knot]

nah, the firmware you run on

[last cedar]

I wonder how 2Ghz interference is handled if it has wifi (if it auto steers channels etc), very cool idea, not necessarily any good, but nice to see people trying new stuff

[lone dagger]

It’s a RoboRock something. Had the integration owner help me fix it.

[tidal bronze]

Oh +1 on Roborock

[lone dagger]

A simple hyphen missing in these parameters broke the whole thing lol. YAML sucks.

[short forge]

it seems like it. Its the 1&1 Homeserver Speed+

[tidal bronze]

So what room is 18?

[glacial knot]

ohh, you didn't specify the list as list? D:

[lone dagger]

I dunno, maybe the dining room?

[tidal bronze]

So you don't what rooms they are?

[primal laurel]

You can select a combination of wifi and zigbee channels that doesn't overlap

[last cedar]

Mmm, I wondered if it sorted this for you, though

[lone dagger]

I did when I built this yesterday but I did not memorize the array number equivalents. 😂

[last cedar]

I believe I have my zigbee low and my wifi high, but I honwstly can't remember

[primal laurel]

Doubt it. But it will hopefully warn you at least

I had to change mine because it wouldn't work

[tidal bronze]

loads of cleaning 🙂

[short forge]

what did you get?

should i get zigbee or tasmota?

plugs

[warm helm]

Zigbee, I prefer to keep as much IOT off my LAN as possible

[short forge]

good, ill send my tasmota stuff back.

[tidal bronze]

Get?

[lone dagger]

@tidal bronze

[warm helm]

17 is going to be the most used

[tidal bronze]

Some of those 'rooms' needs a 2x

[lone dagger]

No. No it doesn’t.

lol

[short forge]

which vacuum bot

also, can i somehow put a dashboard on my eink tablet?

[tidal bronze]

Oh I have roborocks.

[iron granite]

I use a template adding the accessible rooms (depending on if doors are closed) and clean them twice for my Roborock.

[lone dagger]

None need a x2. Mostly because I run stuff during the day as well as overnight. So no need to automate 2 overnight.

[short forge]

i wish i was rich. I'd go crazy with the amount of homelab stuff i'd do.

128GB RAM, running 24/7 server, a smart selfcleaning home.

[warm helm]

You just end up running 10gig for no reason... Because yes I need 10gig to run plex to my tv with a 10/100 nic

[lone dagger]

All I need is 2 automations for rooms right now because it’s only 1 floor and I only do the entire floor or these 4 specific rooms ever.

[lone dagger]

Watch for robovac sales, they are often on sale. Having one goes a long way in reducing cleaning anxiety.

[iron granite]

I also looked up the coordinates of my waste bin, so I can call the robot to it for emptying the dust container.

[tidal bronze]

I use busy/not busy in the last 24hours per area/zone, other than main hallways and kitchen

[lone dagger]

Mine isn’t that smart.

[tidal bronze]

You can call a goto location for trash bin

[lone dagger]

I don’t have a trash bin.

lol

[short forge]

I need a better home. One thats isolated.

[lone dagger]

Psh. QUITTER TALK.

[short forge]

i hope to save up 100k to buy a home

[iron granite]

You can send it to your son's room and make a TTS "Feed me, Seymore!"

[warm helm]

I just got rid of the smart room selection, it led to me being lazy and not picking up rooms. I just run it for the whole place

[short forge]

Until you realize, my windows arent sealed and i have no damn heating element in my home.

[lone dagger]

This is why this only runs overnight in specific rooms for us. I’m the only one that remembers to pick things up for the smaller rooms, and the only one who does the litter…

[tidal bronze]

So you empty it into the sink?

[lone dagger]

So…I make it less difficult for the others.

[warm helm]

ERRR, dust bin door is open again

[lone dagger]

No I mean my vacuum doesn’t auto empty.

[warm helm]

Its for the best, my auto-empty barely works

[tidal bronze]

yep, that's why you send it to the trash

[lone dagger]

I bet I could help figure out solutions with you.

[iron granite]

Trash bin, not the auto-cleaning station.

[lone dagger]

But how does it empty itself????

[tidal bronze]

Use your hands. But it will wait near the trash

[lone dagger]

Why are your trash bins accessible by your vacuums???

[lone dagger]

WHY

Just walk the room or 2 away.

lol

[tidal bronze]

That's a task

[iron granite]

Why? you could send your son.

[short forge]

I would love for my windows to be sealed, but i dont know where the leak comes from, i have no way of paying it and im already in debt 500€

thats why i made the router switch. And my power switch. Cheaper.

[lone dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/john-jonah-jameson-lol-laughing-hysterically-laughing-out-loud-funny-gif-17710543

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/seymour-feed-me-plant-little-shop-of-horrors-gif-17120401

[lone dagger]

You could probably figure it out with air sensors in each room and go from there. There are cheap solutions to covering windows for insulation.

[warm helm]

Wouldn't need the robot if the kid could be trained to empty it. They could just actually vacuum

[iron granite]

You could give the kid other tasks while the robot is vacuuming.

[lone dagger]

Well, he’ll be sleeping. Or at school.

One of those while the vacuum runs.

[tidal bronze]

Go to trash can routine is a must. we need to see that automation soon

[teal elbow]

What's your take on AI in the smart home?
Not only speaking of assist+AI, but also stuff such as notifications, reminders and other communications

i just feed all data into AI and tell it to deliver me a cool message

[tidal bronze]

Example of cool message

[warm helm]

I got the robot mower already

[primal laurel]

It's not reliable enough. It makes up stuff regularly

[warm helm]

the fun messages are nice but they are a novelty. A straight message is just as functional. I want to turn my life over to the AI. like notice the dishwasher hasn't be run and auto send notifications entirely on its own

[tidal bronze]

Only if it could not send ANY notifications and solve things on the down-low. Now that's cool! 🙂

[teal elbow]

This is my welcome home greeting
*currently on Echo until i build a speaker

[tidal bronze]

Wowza!

[warm helm]

That's the ultimate goal. Robot vac, robot mower are installed doing there things mostly but at least nag me into doing the things it cant

[tidal bronze]

Everytime you come home???

[teal elbow]

aiming for that too

[warm helm]

Current project is just dumping everything into obsidian that can't be handled by HA to help my memory and task managment

[teal elbow]

when i arrive in my bedroom after having left home for more than 2h

[teal elbow]

wouldn't give it that much power

[tidal bronze]

I am almost there already, if I hear or see a HA notification, that's a problem. Max accepted notifications a month under 5

[warm helm]

I get 5 a day generally. Med reminders, person at the door, alarm is armed/disarmed

[tidal bronze]

That sounds reasonable. I don't have alarms but med reminders makes sense.

[lone dagger]

I don’t want it sitting next to the trash can, wait 5 hours for me to get up, empty it, and then open the app to send it back to its dock because I have child lock on.

[lone dagger]

I was aiming to have it give me random messages every time but it was not working the way I wanted it to. So I ask it for a variety of specific messages and hard code them into my notifications.

I have it set to the “vibe” I want, which is currently severe existential crisis.

[forest edge]

jesus the guy renting my pasture actually took hay out for the cattle today. that had to have been an interesting drive

[short forge]

i just got the hackiest solution to my homelab problem

[cobalt junco]

I am not looking for support, just curious to see how many people actually have a working Google Nest integration, that was configured using the current guide. I think Google made a breaking change but was curious if it's just me or widespread/intermittent/etc

[warm helm]

Who are these people waking up and deciding to go out in this?

[forest edge]

people from other states mostly

https://youtu.be/JdCfOMcVjEM?si=3Rfkc6UdnZN1uFTa

[warm helm]

Love the florida people trying, lol. Hey we don't know how to drive in cold, lets try it in the worst conditions

[forest edge]

biggest issue is the impacts of global warming. we've had it pretty lax for many winters here so newer generations coming into driving ages are no different than some putz from like california coming here and trying to drive

[warm helm]

I see people crawling out of the neighborhood but like everything is already closed for the day

[midnight adder]

"Oi, you can't park here mate"

[clear timber]

Hey Nabu, Ask DHL why my Voice PE has not moved in 15 days.

[warm helm]

Mine is still on back order 😦

[clear timber]

I ordered on the 19th and it was shipped on the 20th

[primal laurel]

Seeed?

[clear timber]

Pi Hut

[midnight adder]

how do people like it so far?

[clear timber]

they are blaming An Post (Irish Post) but they have not recieved it from DHL yet, its still in London

[midnight adder]

(people waiting for DHL are excluded from this question, sorry)

[clear timber]

Myself and my friend ordered at the same time, he got his and cannot get over the speed, in terms of local processing and commands compared to alexa

[midnight adder]

"An Post" – wouldn't it be better to leave out the "n" "A post" (with a box?) 😄

or do you pronounce it "A - N Post"

[desert cave]

you know we do have snow and ice in certain areas in California, right? It's not all beaches and desert, lmao

[clear timber]

its pronounced on post

an is Irish for The

[midnight adder]

https://tenor.com/view/is-that-right-randy-marsh-south-park-south-park-credigree-weed-st-patricks-day-south-park-s25e6-gif-25214078

[clear timber]

Hey, I resemble that remark

[midnight adder]

sooo... what short video should I watch to learn all about Voice PE?

what are its USP?

XMOS something I read and don't understand? 😄

[forest edge]

if southern californians don't recognize northern californians as actually being californians then why should anyone else? lol

[midnight adder]

what are they called then?

Canadians?

or Washingtoners?

[desert cave]

I guess Oregon doesn't exist either lmao

[warm helm]

That's bundy's country

[desert cave]

(which is fair.. it's a wasteland other than Portland)

[clear timber]

lewis on everything smart home is good i find

an bhfuil sé ag cur sneachta ann?

[midnight adder]

IS THAT RIGHT??

😄

[weak musk]

Well this is fun, I just rebooted my HA server and 5 of the integrations have stopped working. I'm still on the November release too 💀

[midnight adder]

tbh some parts have a bit of a Fallout-Scenario-thing going 😄

[midnight adder]

why would you ruin your uptime tho?

[weak musk]

Clearly I'm a glutton for punishment.

[lone dagger]

I took this for the earlier convo about notification messages but got distracted by weed. This is everything I’ve customized or will be customizing.