the-water-cooler

[ocean oar]

Try #1284966582375813201, and probably need to be specific as to which of the three (four?) different Tuya integrations you're using

[fallow nova]

Okay, Thank you

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-no-nope-nah-never-gif-16208499

[clear ferry]

[unborn merlin]

I mean you can still do it

... it'll just nag you after reboots

[primal laurel]

Wouldn't it be great if pdf's had a native dark mode. The white is so bright

Wait that works

Weird

[runic cape]

Running into some frustration caused by fuzzy search + tapo vs tado

[thick dragon]

Hey friends, anyone know if there's a custom integration for an auto-populating input_select based on scenes in an area (or similar)?

[blissful zodiac]

2 minutes and no likes? Let me fix that.

[young sigil]

Ask in #1284966582375813201, not here.

[kindred gyro]

Does anyone know where i should if i have any questions about nabu casa and HA?

[clever mortar]

We have #find-support for that kind of question, but ... you wanted #1284966439702499400

[kindred gyro]

thank you! Saw u answered my other question as well :D Thank you for sending me in a direction 🙏

[lucid atlas]

Is the beta release today?

[clever mortar]

#beta could answer that

(hint, if the channel is closed, then the answer is no)

(or at least, not yet)

[lucid atlas]

The channel is closed, hence the question here. I thought Frenck mentioned that on the podcast, but I wasnt sure.

[clever mortar]

I expect it'll open later today

Of course, which timezone that today is is anybody's guess

[cerulean karma]

Wait, already?!

[clever mortar]

Christmas and New Year are getting in the way, so the release schedule is getting adjusted

So, don't be surprised if things take longer to reach a release

[cerulean karma]

I have patience... Just got the "shipped" notification on the VPE I ordered Thursday... It'll arrive Jan 2nd. 😅

Everything is taking longer

[lucid atlas]

Well the beta channel is open now 😄

[low harness]

So... a few weeks ago I asked the totally uncontentious question about which linux distro would be objectively best for a 2012 macbook pro.
I'm back and can tell you that it actually seems to be nixos.
At least out of ubuntu, xubuntu, debian, mint, arch (btw), kali and nixos. Nixos is the only one where the wifi drivers auto install, and where power management actually works so that the computer goes to sleep when closing the lid.

Also; who doesn't love yet another enormous rabbit hole?

[glacial knot]

guess we know what you are doing for christmas

[deft pewter]

Testing the other 6000 distros? 😁

[red rock]

But did you try the hannah montana one?

[low harness]

No. I also never got to ponyos or templeos

[red rock]

Then, was your research dilligent enough

[glacial knot]

Nah. Deep dive nix.

[low harness]

I did actually run mittos64 on it, though... https://github.com/thomasloven/mittos64

[glacial knot]

TempleOS isn't a Linux distro, so that's fair

[low harness]

Neither is ponyos

[lucid atlas]

boss wants "only a small release". 59 minutes until my vacation starts. What could go wrong?

[primal laurel]

Fucking run

[lucid atlas]

"wops the power went"

just some small little festive changes to the order engine right before the holiday sales

say a prayer

[glacial knot]

who's oncall?

[warm helm]

Uhh, christmas change freeze? We have been on for the last two weeks andn it goes untul after new years

[deft pewter]

Change freezes? Never heard of 'em

[clever mortar]

See, this is why you should water cool your servers, much easier to have a freeze then 🤪

[primal laurel]

christmas is time for personal projects

[deft pewter]

Yeah, I'm bouncing between Advent of Code and trying to suss out Frigate (without having any cameras 😂). Boss is off this week, so he won't mind

[heady zealot]

So... Why is input boolean virtual devices not considered devices in HA?

Need to have virtual devices show up as devices/entities.

[clever mortar]

Because they're not devices, but that's a topic for #1284966582375813201

[heady zealot]

They should be though.

[clever mortar]

||Devices are just collections of entities, and one entity doesn't make a device||

[heady zealot]

Makes it easier to work with.

[clever mortar]

No, it doesn't

But feel free to open a feature request/WTH on the forum, where people will tell you not to use devices 😉

[heady zealot]

Ok. Entity.

[clever mortar]

Good news, they are entities

Anyway, head over to #1284966582375813201 if you want to talk more about them 😉

[heady zealot]

Then something is wrong, because it doesn't show up as entity when I try to do an automation with one. Had to do a "former" call action.

[clever mortar]

Anyway, head over to #1284966582375813201 if you want to talk more about them 😉

[heady zealot]

I heard you. Fine.

[clever mortar]

Or, #1284980040940912641 can help with the automation side

[primal laurel]

never did advent of code. Still working on project euler though

[deft pewter]

AoC is fun. Starts out pretty easy and gradually gets harder. I'm not an amazing dev, so I've only finished it once 😅

Can't remember if I've tried PE. That's more traditional mathsy problems, right?

[primal laurel]

the first problems are essentially leet code problems, but it gets very difficult as you go on

for the early problems there's always a 'leetcode method' and a 'smart method'. For example problem 2 you have to sum even fibonacci numbers. Which you can do with a simple for loop, and then most people try to optimize the for loop. But if you read the wikipedia page you will find a few identities, and you can solve it in one step without any for loop

[crisp oriole]

Someone knows a good discord server for AI google guestions in general. I have issues with my news functions. The LLM is trained not to have online news or google access. If i describe to less it will not function. Says it does not have functions. If i describe to much it also states it cant function because the function is obviously a stub or a test function and refuses it to run.

[lucid atlas]

guess what - I'm still here

[solar zealot]

Why not use an llm that can utilize web search

[deft pewter]

'good' and 'LLM' in the same post. 🤣

[deft pewter]

Yes, it's funny to see how many developers go the naive route with solutions. At least until you run into a problem where the runtime becomes massive or you run out of memory 😄

AoC is quite good for that. Each day is a 2-parter, with the second being a twist on the first. Sometimes the twist seems really small but is designed to create way more data than the first part.

[warm helm]

I actually had that happen with a AIO water cooler one time

[heady zealot]

I had an aio leak all over my graphics card. Was about 4 years old. They paid me the msrp of the card and only spend $20usd to upgrade to the next gen. 😛

And they sent me a new aio.

It's now in the wife's system since it was a 2 fan gamerstorm. I upgraded to 3 fan coolermaster.

Would like to try a custom loop someday.

[primal laurel]

I still prefer larger projects I think. I have to actually think about software design, often that is the hardest part of any project for me

so I learn more

have been thinking for 3 days on how I am going to structure my solar simulator...

[deft pewter]

My day job gives me enough practise with large projects.

[lucid atlas]

Roses are red
Vilolets are blue
Everyone else has bailed

[heady zealot]

Still not left for vacation?

[deft pewter]

Vacation starts in -8 minutes. Can't leave yet.

[heady zealot]

heh

[lucid atlas]

-69 minutes to be precise 🫡

[deft pewter]

Oof.

[heady zealot]

I'm on permanent vacation. (retired)

[lucid atlas]

does not contain a definition for 'HideGender' and no accessible extension method 'HideGender'
there'll be no hiding of my gender this Christmas

[heady zealot]

Don't be whipping out your gender during xmas. Nobody wants to see it. 😛

[deft pewter]

Do feel free to whip out your Goosey Goosey Gander though.

[rocky wagon]

just keep mashing the rebuild button and HOPE 😛

[last cedar]

Who likes bubble wrap?

|| !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! || || !pop! ||

[solar zealot]

i may have clicked all of them

[last cedar]

Same lol

That is the most fun I have had all day

[solar zealot]

🫧

[lone dagger]

I dragged my son over to do it.

[warm helm]

Why do you do this to the ocd part of my brain? I must click all of them

[last cedar]

I am contemplating adding more!

[last cedar]

I can't take all the credit for this, but thank you for pinning it, I feel I have made it in the world now 🤣

[warm helm]

Can you wait until after I get off work, this is my personal pc in my work office and I have a k400 for a mouse with its terrible track pad

[last cedar]

Perhaps 😛

[lone dagger]

I then copied it and posted it into like 4 other servers. 🤣🤣

[tidal bronze]

Some one is in holiday mode, well, officially huh

[warm helm]

I mean who here hasn't been for this whole month? I have been checked out for a while now. My body maybe at my desk, but I am posting in here

[orchid dust]

Does this server have a place I can ask general questions about Home Assistant? I would hate to start entire threads for simple questions.

[weak musk]

Not really, thread it up.

[lone dagger]

Shitposting turned up to 11.

[tidal bronze]

I can see that. Hopefully, you are maintaining a constant BAC since Friday

[lone dagger]

Hahaha I’m not.

My THC levels are though.

[crisp oriole]

omg on facebook. someone recommends docker for some one using ha as a virtual machine.
I cant get to his big skuled brain haos is better because of the ingress integration into addons

[lucid atlas]

Well better is subjective

[solar zealot]

Is this the predecessor of RBAC

Did this just get confirmed ha 2025

[glacial knot]

Might as well be

Can make access harder

[lone dagger]

Setting up a calendar for Bills in HA because what else do you do on your time off.

[solar zealot]

Why don't you just tell him when to do stuff

[weak musk]

How many bills do you know where they need their own calendar??

[lone dagger]

wow jinks

lmao

It's a monthly reminder to be annoying to Bill, duh.

[weak musk]

I was so close lol

[deft pewter]

Docker > HAOS, every time (unless you're a noob that needs your hand holding, I guess) 😉

[last cedar]

97% of raccoons prefer docker to haos as well

[deft pewter]

Raccoons are smart

[solar zealot]

Haos all the way

[last cedar]

I do have a question actually, I wonder if I can get away asking it here

I am not brave enough, will have a look in a different channel 😉

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/spaceballs-chicken-colonel-sanders-colonel-sandurz-you-afraid-gif-16604779

[ocean oar]

Rude, can't even spell the character's name correctly

[crisp oriole]

Like i said. Haos is ingress. Making the addons having secure connections you cant use that im docker.

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/spaceballs-whats-the-matter-colonel-sandurz-chicken-dark-helmet-gif-15418499

Better?

[last cedar]

So I do run ha on docker.

If I wanted a "cool looking thingie that isn't in the box" like clock weather card...

https://github.com/pkissling/clock-weather-card

Is it just "manual install" instructions to get it working?

[last cedar]

I think the n of chicken needs more emphasis

[iron granite]

That or HACS

[last cedar]

Can you see how he dwells on it?

[crisp oriole]

Great. Finally a working general local news for whole netherlands. Ai is frustrating

[last cedar]

I didn't actually know about HACS

[lone dagger]

WHAT

HOW

[iron granite]

[last cedar]

A fair amount has changed, I went from 0.96.5 to 2023.3.3....

[lone dagger]

MICHELLE

[iron granite]

[last cedar]

And I seem to have missed a few things

[lone dagger]

This is incredibly amusing.

[solar zealot]

a thing or two*

[last cedar]

I probably should update to at least 2023.4.something

[lone dagger]

I just did the 2024.12.5 update.

[last cedar]

I am in the process of reinstalling and would like to maybe display stuff in a nicer way

[iron granite]

[last cedar]

A .5 makes me uneasy, that is like one every 5 days

[lone dagger]

No, it's 1 every week.

[last cedar]

Probably best to wait for 2025.1.1 and get all the bugs

[lone dagger]

@junior forge so are we releasing 2025.1 and 2025.1.1 on the same day?

Since it's Friday.

🤣

[last cedar]

So I learned 2 things today then! I thought the .x are mostly for bugs

[lone dagger]

Weekly updates!

At least in our case.

[junior forge]

Yup, I make sure to leave a 5 min gap in between 🤪

[lone dagger]

GitHub will love us that day. 🤣

[junior forge]

Not mostly: ONLY

[last cedar]

I guess you need to stop putting bugs in it then! /s

[junior forge]

?

[deft pewter]

Wouldn't need the minor/patch versions if the major versions were bug-free 😅

[iron granite]

Time for version 1.0. The last version with all features and no bugs.

[deft pewter]

It's gotta be easy to make perfect software, right? /s

[junior forge]

we don’t use minor / patch versions

We are not on semver

[last cedar]

Think of all the time on the beach just watching the ocean

[deft pewter]

Calver. Same thing

[junior forge]

Sorry it really is not.

[deft pewter]

The only difference is that the 'major' bits are arbitrarily chosen to line up with a calendar. Anyone could choose to release their semver stuff on notable dates too 😅

[iron granite]

Maybe the ocean is watching you

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/monsterinc-monsters-inc-gif-5616105356996190790

[solar zealot]

o o o

[junior forge]

Incorrect. Semver pretty well documents what part of a version string changes in which cases.

[deft pewter]

This?

Major - The first number in the version. 2 and 3 are Python's famous major versions. The major segment is the most common calendar-based component.
Minor - The second number in the version. 7 is the most popular minor version of Python.
Micro - The third and usually final number in the version. Sometimes referred to as the "patch" segment.
Modifier - An optional text tag, such as "dev", "alpha", "beta", "rc1", and so on.

[solar zealot]

the definition of those cases is quite loose

[deft pewter]

I see minor mentioned, and I see micro says 'sometimes referred to as the "patch" segment'.

[junior forge]

No that is pep440

[deft pewter]

I'm looking at calver.org. Who else specifies it?

[junior forge]

Right that is possible too…

Anyways, we use our own versioning. It is documented; based on calver. Year.month.patch number

We only ship new features or backwards incompatible changes on .0 releases

[deft pewter]

aka major versions 😅

[junior forge]

Yup although semver calls that specific part of the version change “minor “ 😛

[solar zealot]

versioning is quite easy. once any of the numbers change you best be having a test suite to check the bahaviour of your dependencies

[junior forge]

Hehe we used to just count

Release = +1 🥸

As a matter of fact, we just tagged the dev branch and ship it stable every 2 weeks 🤡

[deft pewter]

It's all good. I get the appeal of calver. It's nice to know at a glance how out of date your current version is without checking releases.

[solar zealot]

real versioning systems start making the most sense when there isnt a linear path between upgrades

else timestamps are as good as anything

and hashcodes

[deft pewter]

YYYYDDMM all the way, right?

||sorry, not sorry||

[solar zealot]

a simple unix timestamp will do

and it wont offend people, at least for a couple more years

[deft pewter]

Epoch time? Blergh. ISO-8601 or bust. Sortable and human-readable.

[deft pewter]

Where does the offense come in?

[solar zealot]

it makes no difference if it is human readable, it needs to be sortable

[junior forge]

Only with micro precision 🫤

[solar zealot]

around '38

[deft pewter]

Ah, that 😄 Not looking forward to being in dev work at that time.

[solar zealot]

discord bought a bit more time for their ids ^^

[deft pewter]

Hoping the closest I get to worrying about it is timestamps in my DBs. And by then, someone cleverer than myself should have patched it in the DB engine and given me a migration path

[solar zealot]

not a lto

[ocean oar]

But on the upside, they can shoot a re-make of Office Space that's set around the 32 bit Unix time rollover instead of 2-digit Y2K bug

One thing we can guarantee; in a decade, Hollywood will still be churning out re-makes instead of original content

[solar zealot]

maybe it will be original once ai hallucinated everything possible

[nocturne orchid]

dose someone here have a recommendation for a temp and hygrometer, that's easy to implement into home assistant so i can graph my temp and humidity and calc water ppm and such?

[keen bridge]

Try #1284966353798697001 with the "Recommendations" tag

[ocean oar]

Also out of easy / cheap / accurate / long battery life: mostly you're going to get to pick two of those. So decide which ones matter most to you

[keen bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/fast-cheap-good-good-fast-cheap-choices-gif-14847993

[pure tusk]

Hi frens and merry Christmas!

Im wondering if frigate has its own discord already?🤔

[glacial bobcat]

Hey sorry to bother you guys but i need help installing HA and havent gotten a response yet

#1320086591988826122 message

[primal laurel]

if you dont get a response here you can always try the community forum

[glacial bobcat]

ohh i forgot about that

thanks

[forest edge]

@hollow glacier you around?

[hollow glacier]

Not here lol

[forest edge]

i got an update which has me baffled

[hollow glacier]

The h-1?

[forest edge]

yea says its out for delivery? the 6405?

[hollow glacier]

USPS has been fucking up

[forest edge]

i just got my mail and nothing was there.. wonder if the postal office is wigging out lol

[hollow glacier]

But since your second one got there with leds messed up we don’t need it back just keep it if the original order arrives

[forest edge]

wait another mail truck just arrived lol

[hollow glacier]

lol

[forest edge]

omg sure as hell did arrive. i'm confused tho. did you not file a claim? i thought they returned found missing packages back to sender when that was done?

that is crazy.. like someone decided to sweep the floor and was like, oh! whats this?!

[forest edge]

woman has been periodically making remarks about the missing led.. lets see if she catches i swapped the trees out lol

[quick hedge]

I have two issues I raised quite a while ago now with no replies in the support channels here. Thoughts on what to try now? Use the forum instead or something?

[tidal bronze]

She should know by now that you missing a LED

[forest edge]

if something is too vague that will causes no responses also if it's about product no one else has any experince with etc

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/usosilly-laugh-haha-laugh-funny-face-fake-laugh-gif-12391005

[quick hedge]

I provided as much detail as I could, it wasn't vague.

[tidal bronze]

Cool frame

[forest edge]

@tidal bronzeso what weird stuff you eating on xmas?

we're having ham

[tidal bronze]

Doing a Thomas Keller 48 hour chicken, Prime Rib, Tiger Shrimp and Lobster.

[tidal bronze]

Oh boy, another water block

[forest edge]

wtf is 48 hour chicken

[tidal bronze]

24hr 10% brine and 48hr air chilled

[forest edge]

if you are referring to your matter through VM.. that kind of narrows down the amount of people who would have experince with that I am sure

[forest edge]

that sounds poisonous

[tidal bronze]

Yoi gotta love the poison.

[hollow glacier]

Idk maybe I forgot

I think I just filled in a help request which feels pointless

[forest edge]

well I won't complain

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge is it at least pineapple glazed?

[hollow glacier]

There’s no good way to track usps claims like all the other shippers with easyship and shopify

[forest edge]

ew no but it is sweet ham

[quick hedge]

No, the latter two issues. Migrating Zigbee and Matter devices.

[hollow glacier]

Like I gotta manually set up a spreadsheet or keep tickets open or something

[forest edge]

next year make clients pay a little extra and use fedex or ups or something lol

[tidal bronze]

Oh sweet Ham. Lol

[hollow glacier]

UPS hands off to usps half the time…

[forest edge]

that sucks

[hollow glacier]

FedEx is good just more money and we can’t offer it free

[forest edge]

it be worth the extra $$ to not have to deal with how crazy usps gets just coming into the holiday season let alone in the middle of it

[crisp oriole]

great there is no free place to zipcode range api for the netherlands. now downloading the json for the world wide world..

[hollow glacier]

Too many people just want free shipping and usps only sometimes fails it’s just the best option for now

[quick hedge]

https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1314974593441595412 and https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1314972459228729404

[forest edge]

@tidal bronzeSalmonella, prime rib and lobster is kind of weird mash up.. wtf inspires that?

[hollow glacier]

FedEx international connect will get a package to anywhere in the eu in 7 days tho

[quick hedge]

Kinda tired of not having control of half my house at this point.

[forest edge]

I get it but after having usps lose one package sent to me even in oct I would have ticked the second option of paying more to use something other than them if there had been one

[forest edge]

yea I can't help you. don't mess with VM

[quick hedge]

I mean, the fact it's in a VM is irrelevant. It's HAOS.

[forest edge]

well obviously you are having information passing through in and out of it is relevant

[quick hedge]

The hardware is on passthrough so it should be acting like any normal bare metal.

Adding a new Zigbee device worked fine, the issue is importing old devices.

[lone dagger]

lmfao

[forest edge]

what am i looking at

[lone dagger]

A message.

[forest edge]

yt premium is 18 bucks?

[lone dagger]

Yeah.

[forest edge]

that seems kind of high

[lone dagger]

My snarky LLM didn't like that I wanted it to fix what it suggested.

[lone dagger]

Yeah, they actually raised it within the last 6 months.

I'm fairly sure.

[forest edge]

doesn't it just remove ads and give you access to music and nothing else?

[lone dagger]

It's under my husband's account so I don't know when it changed this last time.

[lone dagger]

Yes, but I BELIEVE we also get access to whatever the YT exclusives are - Red? Something that I cannot recall because we don't touch it.

We only use it for the ad removal.

[forest edge]

why piracy is so popular lol

[lone dagger]

Was going through all my bills again to see where they are and it was depressing af. Making depressing notification messages to pay things seemed like a better use of my day after that.

[forest edge]

lol

this year is going to be bad

[tidal bronze]

Go through bills? 🤔

[lone dagger]

I have most things on autopay and haven't looked at updated billing dates or prices in like a year.

[forest edge]

he doesn't know what a bill is

[lone dagger]

Most affluent people don't.

[forest edge]

he just lets people scan his forehead for merchandise and that's the last he ever deals with anything

[tidal bronze]

Ah that makes sense. Autopay is cool. At least that's what I hear from my wife.

[forest edge]

see

lmao

[tidal bronze]

But I feel, too many subscriptions

[lone dagger]

Our largest bills are actually water, electric/gas, and our phone bill. Our subscriptions aren't stacking up, luckily.

I also get rid of useless ones, lol.

[forest edge]

really? the yearly taxes are my largest lol

[tidal bronze]

Water and power that's a killer

At least water for me.

[lone dagger]

We're in a county that does overage charges for the income range of the area, too. 🙄

[tidal bronze]

Oh boy that's now fun.

[lone dagger]

I would be paying at least $100 less were I in a neighboring county.

Good ole Seattle cost of living.

[tidal bronze]

Ah same with Los Angeles Vs Ventura country. Lol

[lone dagger]

Nothing like the people on the lower income range of the counties paying what the surcharges meant for the higher income range can afford.

I have hit my data limit for the month already. Oops.

[forest edge]

data limit?

[lone dagger]

I mean limit is a weird term here.

I hit the internet cap I pay for and now get to pay more for whatever we end up using.

I hit this cap way more often than I'd like, lmao. It's 1.2TB.

[forest edge]

you using home 5g or something?

or comcast..

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-one-billion-dollars-haha-money-gif-16679435

[lone dagger]

The latter!

Great guess!

[forest edge]

well comcast is the only isp that still does that other than cell services

[primal laurel]

data limit on broadband? what year is it?

[lone dagger]

What country is it?
FTFY

People continually surprised that Americans get shafted all the time.

[weak musk]

Which is hilarious given how puritanical the US is

[primal laurel]

download the latest call of duty and you're over the limit

[lone dagger]

My husband redownloaded Cyberpunk, which I think is very similar in size to CoD.

But I will burn my consoles before there is CoD in this house.

[weak musk]

There is no way cod is over a terabyte

[lone dagger]

It isn't, we're being facetious.

[primal laurel]

it's 240GB now I think

[weak musk]

Still too big lol

[primal laurel]

playing cyberpunk on my steamdeck! Very well optimized game now

[weak musk]

Cyberpunk is excellent now

[lone dagger]

It's been pretty solid for well over a year now.

I think my husband has something like 70 hours in it?

[primal laurel]

just finished silent hill 2. Also highly recommend if you like horror

[weak musk]

I’ve been playing the crap out of horizon forbidden west

Like 120 hours so far

[forest edge]

lol cyberpunk

it take them 3 years after release to make it playable?

[lone dagger]

Nah, about 9-12 months.

[weak musk]

Yes, but it’s really good now

[primal laurel]

it was great after about a year

[lone dagger]

But people were still really put off by it.

[primal laurel]

then just got better

[weak musk]

And the expansion is awesome

[primal laurel]

need to play that still

[weak musk]

It’s really great

[austere anchor]

I had this with Comcast. Is so dumb. The cap is your speed x 1024. So basically in less than 20 min at max speed, you hit your cap. Basically making the speed worthless.

Glad to be rid them and on a local ISP that’s way better and much less expensive.

[lone dagger]

I really do need to swap off. We plan on moving at the end of our lease, though, so I am probably just going to wait until that happens. But I'll do research to see if I can switch to something before then.

Ziply Fiber is like the next best option out here.

[forest edge]

aren't you in california?

[lone dagger]

negative

[austere anchor]

Internet sucks in California. At least in San Francisco.

4 years ago, the best option I had was 25 Mbps AT&T DSL… the rep called it “super fast” I told them that the FCC doesn’t even consider it broadband.

[forest edge]

you would think with all the massive tax breaks they give to companies the services would be discounted but nooo lol

[lone dagger]

Of course not, how else would companies take advantage of the individual????

[static schooner]

California is a very big place

[lone dagger]

California is effectively 3 different states.

They want to be only 2. But there are 3. 😂

[static schooner]

And nobody likes utilities digging up their yard or protected wetland

New construction around here gets fiber

And towers downtown, where they run to the building and enable lots of people at once

[forest edge]

it may be big but the inhabitable areas are actually small

[static schooner]

AT&T installed some gigantic copper line to my house when it was built in the 80s for future proofing and it just sits there sticking out of the ground now

[forest edge]

think NY just barely beat out the cities in california for the origin of the phrase "packed in like sardines"

[forest edge]

what do you mean sticking out of the ground?

[static schooner]

Like literally an unterminated cable poking out of the ground next to my garage

[forest edge]

sounds like a liability..

[static schooner]

It goes down to the box at the street where it's also unterminated

[forest edge]

not unocmmon for them to do stuff like that but usually stuff on properties get buried till they need a use of it

[static schooner]

It pops out of some small conduit in the planting bed next to my garage

[primal laurel]

We have a company like that in NL. They bet people would never need fiber speeds, so they stuck with docsis. Now they're losing 10's of thousands of customers per year

[weak musk]

The internet is a fad though, I’m sure their lack of investment will pay off.

[primal laurel]

Lol

I can get 10gbit/sec symmetric now

Not that I need it but still

[forest edge]

if they would reduce the cost of docsis to better align with what they charge for fiber

many wouldn't switch

[solar zealot]

No fiber here still unless you want to go with a scummy ish company on a two year contract

[forest edge]

for me spectrum charges the exact same as what google fiber charges at only 1/3rd the speed and even worse for upload

[solar zealot]

:c

[forest edge]

makes no sense at all

[sage cedar]

208 new messages here in #the-water-cooler since 3 something pm, ...

[static schooner]

Nothing of consequence, fortunately

[primal laurel]

Did you count them?

[tidal bronze]

Welp, when you put it like that 😆

[lone dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/willy-wonka-gene-wilder-you-must-be-new-here-gif-3545114

[forest edge]

you know what comes next...

[tidal bronze]

Darn it falling asleep at 3pm is no fun.

[forest edge]

such a hard life you lead

[tidal bronze]

I know right

[forest edge]

i blame the diet really

[tidal bronze]

I am supposed to be at a surprise birthday party. Oops.

[static schooner]

They'll be surprised

[lone dagger]

Oh no!

[forest edge]

well you got a 50/50 chance of them not realizing it if they are over 40

[ocean oar]

I've found that calling in sick is quite effective for social events I don't want to go to

Since Covid, people actually respect "I wasn't feeling great, didn't want to risk it", which is pretty much a get out of jail free card

[static schooner]

Especially when you're saying that you don't want to get them sick, they're not going to push it

[ocean oar]

Exactly

[static schooner]

Unless they start with 'oh, just wear a mask!'

[short forge]

what can i buy to make my rollos smart?

[static schooner]

I hate it when people solve my problems that I created on purpose

[tidal bronze]

I wish that was the case. But not a great excuse when you plan the party. Lmao.

[static schooner]

Oh, it was your party?

[tidal bronze]

No, I organized the surprise party. 🤣

[static schooner]

I suggest posting in #1284966353798697001 -> recommendations

[forest edge]

don't tell us this was at your place and you just fell asleep and ignored everyone showing up for the surprise party till they left...

I would actually find that quite funny

[tidal bronze]

That's kinda normal for me. 🤣 Had to pull strings to get this reservation so I am in trouble.

Completely @lone dagger fault. She mentioned bills and I got stressed

[forest edge]

pretty much how we all view californians

[tidal bronze]

Oh you understand ❤️ now. Good

[lone dagger]

You literally said your wife handles this I cannot be blamed for that!

[forest edge]

it reminded him that such thing exsisted and that was enough

oh wow.. wonder if we will actually take over greenland

[mild onyx]

what ya'll using as a people scale for home assistant?

[forest edge]

people scale?

[mild onyx]

if i didnt say people, you could think im talking about a kitchen scale, which i am not

[forest edge]

you referring to weight?

[mild onyx]

thats what scales are for yes

[forest edge]

your wording left it open to mean a lot of potential things lol

[mild onyx]

people weight measuring scale

[forest edge]

well in the us it's lbs and europe i think mostly uses kilograms

[mild onyx]

huh

im asking what people use for hardware

[forest edge]

see once again

bad wording yields bad results

[mild onyx]

i guess, but when has anyone ever asked what to use between lbs and kg?

[forest edge]

go to #1284966353798697001 and see what that yields answer wise for you

[midnight adder]

Finally reached my last nerve with these Alexa pieces of junk that I have scattered around the house. I installed Piper and Whisper in Docker containers on a mini PC I had sitting around for a while and within minutes I was able to send commands through my Android phone. Very impressed so far with the first steps I've taken to test the waters.

Does anyone know if there's a way to set an alias for a query like, "What time is it"? -- I prefer the way I can just shout the word "time" to the echo devices and get a response. I don't always feel like being very verbose, especially if I'm running around in a panicked state, trying to get out of the house before I'm late

[lone dagger]

I wonder if you could do it as a sentence trigger?

[odd aurora]

rip

looks like I need more ram

never thought a home assistant server would need more than 8gb

[forest edge]

so don't analyze 4k images

[odd aurora]

I don't think I am?

[lone dagger]

Are you running the model on your HA system?

[odd aurora]

ye

it's the only computer that's on 24/7

[lone dagger]

Oh yeah that will give you that result.

[odd aurora]

well, that and my pihole

upgrading it to 16gb of ram isn't an issue, just a hassle over christmas

[lone dagger]

You need at least 16GB for most models to respond rapidly, and a GPU that can process it well.

[odd aurora]

ah, well it's only got the igpu so maybe that won't work so well

[lone dagger]

Do a search for others in your situation and see if they have a solution before you go out buying things is my advice. 😅

That’s the biggest problem with LLMs, they’re getting great but need lots of power to be good outside of cloud.

[odd aurora]

that's what I thought anyway, just really wanted to see how long it'd take

it's only an i5 idk which generation, not sure how to get home assistant to tell me that

[tidal bronze]

Igpu is a no go

[upbeat bobcat]

hey guys quick one. is the energy dashboard sensors needing live data or just daily total sensors?

[unborn merlin]

doesnt that depend on the specific model since some intel cpus with igpus also have those accelerator units onboard? 🤔

[glacial knot]

if you happen to find tons of RAM and models actually tuned for an iGPU

[unborn merlin]

tons of ram isn't hard 😛

[glacial knot]

but yea, the NN accell units are not part of the iGPU

[tidal bronze]

You can definitely 'try' iGPU route 😁

[forest edge]

@tidal bronzeit's starting https://youtu.be/jfjPRrjl9U0?si=XUMoFj7ByRQx2ug-

[tidal bronze]

Great day to catch a wave

[gusty fulcrum]

Anyone know if I can connect this to Home Assistant? I got it from goodwill for a couple bucks and I can't get it to connect to the Geeni app I heard it uses

[forest edge]

could try it with the homekit device intergration

[gusty fulcrum]

I tried that but it doesn't let me connect to a plug that's not already on the network, which doesn't make sense. Part of the setup process is supposed to be putting the plug on the wifi

The plug is just making its own wifi network and idk how to make it connect to my wifi instead

[forest edge]

you will have to google the manual to find out what you need to do

that second picture you posted looks like the homekit pairing code to me tho

[last cedar]

Just added it to my network, you should see the size of the aerial I have

[gusty fulcrum]

The app it says to use isn't on the play store

[forest edge]

@gusty fulcrumyou'll have to post this in #1284966353798697001 if you want further help

the yellow names lurk in this channel like roaches waiting to bounce on support lookers

[forest edge]

lol

[gusty fulcrum]

People never answer in threads

[clever mortar]

They do

As long as your title isn't pls halp or similar

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/how-to-help-us-help-you-or-how-to-ask-a-good-question/114371 has a bunch of good tips

[forest edge]

halp!

[ocean oar]

Can I just say holy shit is "ihome" a terrible name for a product. Like 900 results and none of them seem to be the one Elyk has

[forest edge]

really? i found it in 2 seconds lol

[gusty fulcrum]

Ok I posted it in #1284966353798697001

[ocean oar]

I mean generic information and a useless storefront (https://ihome.com/), but in terms of actually doing anything with that (presumably ancient) smart plug? Zip, zilch, nada

[forest edge]

found some listings on ebay that showed them in a package lol

[simple gazelle]

Who's on cover for Christmas and making sure not touch anything? 🙋‍♂️

[deft pewter]

No cover here but still doing my best not to complete any work 😅

[short forge]

so, i got an a1z nous plug, and it has tasmota. how do i flash zigbee on it

[deft pewter]

No idea. Ask a support channel.

[crisp oriole]

Does your country have citys with offical names no one uses? It took me some time to make my script work for the city den haag

[deft pewter]

Isn't that because no-one, including the city officials, uses the weird old name?

It's like Londinium -> Londinio -> Lunden -> Loundres -> London. Names change over time, thanks to language and geopolitics.

[forest edge]

@last cedar not seen your friends the past couple of days but have seen this guy

pretty sure it's a fox

[tidal bronze]

Prime rib time

[forest edge]

kinda early

[tidal bronze]

Long ways to go 🙂

[forest edge]

takes your grill 24 hours to heat up?

must be eletric and you all must be having grid issues again

[tidal bronze]

It's for tonight.

[primal laurel]

New Amsterdam -> New York. We remember

[forest edge]

rib tonight and salmonella tomorrow huh?

[tidal bronze]

Never electric. NG or Charcoal Sir!

[simple gazelle]

Thank-you for the reminder to remove the borb from the freezer, well it's some duck, so ~24h in the fridge should do it.

[tidal bronze]

Does that leave enough time to dry brine?

[tidal bronze]

Pajama white elephant requires prime rib you know.

[forest edge]

what does an elephant want with a cow?

[fast peak]

Probably dumb question.... is there a way to change this from 24 hour time to 12 hour time displayed on the Dashboard?

[clever mortar]

That's probably a browser side setting - #1284965988642590891 can help

[last cedar]

It does look like it, foxes are sweeeeeet too!

[static schooner]

Doesn't look like a very big fox. I'll bet a raccoon could take it

[forest edge]

they will try if hungry enough. seen them go after some pretty decent sized cats

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/kodiak-bear-grizzly-bear-bear-alaska-gif-27333944

one day you see this guy on your camera

[forest edge]

better not

or the zoo will get a lawsuit

possible for me to capture a mountain lion tho

unlikely but possible

[deft pewter]

And I'm still on the side of Constantinople.

[atomic beacon]

Wishing you peace and joy this holiday/Christmas/Hanukkah. Thanks to NC and all the volunteer Devs/PMs/Mods/Writers for all youve done for the ecosystem and community in 2024!

[atomic beacon]

Have to respectfully disagree. We had a beautiful inch of show north of Philly this morning. Walking the dog and watching her play in it made me very joyous.

[static schooner]

Got a video of that that I can watch? 🙂

[lone dagger]

There’s something beautiful about the perfect snow and no one being outside.

[forest edge]

only if you watch it while sticking your head in the freezer to get the true experience

[lone dagger]

Once other humans are involved though…

[static schooner]

I'm actually in Atlanta now, where it just gets cold and rarely gets snow. But they do get black ice, so it's kinda the worst case scenario

[lone dagger]

That’s what happens here. We get ice.

[static schooner]

I used to live in central Illinois where everything just got brown and it was bitter cold, but we were always below the snow line

"A little snow" is the worst because it melts and freezes into ice

[midnight adder]

soooo what's your christmas presents everyone? 😄

I got myself a complete woodworking machinery park

no excuses anymore to not start my projects sadly

[tidal bronze]

No thank you. Snow on backyard TV is just fine while sipping some wine in 71F

[midnight adder]

71Farad or Fahrenheit?

[primal laurel]

time off 🤣

[lone dagger]

I bought 3 LEGO sets and key caps. My biggest holiday gift is doing home automation stuff, though.

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/playful-clg-wiggily-clg-smoothie-clg-stixxay-happy-gif-16429669

[lone dagger]

I spent all day yesterday setting up custom notification messages, it was great.

[tidal bronze]

Hard to say while in the pool. 🙂

[midnight adder]

oh I read LEGO keycaps first - that'd also be cool 😄

[midnight adder]

where's your multimeter? 😄

[lone dagger]

lol fair that was poor phrasing.

[midnight adder]

so you got yourself one of those ultra fancy LEGO sets?

[tidal bronze]

Quest is how to read it

[midnight adder]

with 1001 parts?

[lone dagger]

I’m still waiting on the full keyboard set but got my custom resin ones already.

[midnight adder]

yeah slow with the wine 😄

[tidal bronze]

Sample notification to give some context here?

[lone dagger]

Yeah, I’m obsessed with the botanical collection.

I also have 2 of the bonsai trees.

[tidal bronze]

Wowza!

[midnight adder]

190 bucks? dayum

better cancel that sub

[static schooner]

That's gotta be some combo

[lone dagger]

lol I knew that’s what y’all would focus on

[lone dagger]

It isn’t.

[primal laurel]

My sister has the orchid one too, quite nice

[unborn merlin]

my condolences.

... to having comcast

[tidal bronze]

Oh my it's a bill

[lone dagger]

It’s WAY prettier in person than I expected.

[midnight adder]

the first one is really really cool! the rest as well but wow I love it

[midnight adder]

then explain 😄

(you don't have to ... not pushing! ... but wth?? :D)

[lone dagger]

That’s the wildflower set. I’m going to remove the stems and have them set up as a bouquet pile on a shelf on the wall behind my desk.

[lone dagger]

LMAO I’m not sure I can. It’s probably a combination of the income of my area, the fact that there is very limited competition to them out here, and the fact that I refuse to get better bundles because I don’t need their stupid cable.

[primal laurel]

I really want to buy 75367 but it's so much money

[midnight adder]

what about Skynet?

err what it's called? Starlink?

[tidal bronze]

$190 for level 11 shitposting. I think it's worth it!

[midnight adder]

you could do way more shitpostings in a month

[static schooner]

I mean, it's inevitable that we'll all use that soon, so might as well get on the train

[midnight adder]

write a python script to shitpost 1 / day

[lone dagger]

Nah, fuck that person in particular. 😂

[static schooner]

I wonder how much of that 1.xTB bandwidth cap is taken by shitposting

[lone dagger]

HE WHO SHALL NOT BE NAMED

[lone dagger]

Not as much as you’d hope.

[tidal bronze]

Best line of the day!

[forest edge]

someone say musk

[lone dagger]

This month’s cap was hit because I’m transferring my OneDrive stuff to iCloud and it was like YOU DID TOO MUCH.

[tidal bronze]

Not self hosted? Wha???

[lone dagger]

I’m not like the rest of y’all!

I thought that’d be clear by now!

[simple gazelle]

I host my backups myself, but I need to rotate the offsite. Maybe I should bit the bullet and add a cloud string to that bow.

[forest edge]

yea pretty sure those tuya lights would reach your cap by themselves lol

[static schooner]

That's one, definitely don't say that two more times or you lose a horcrux

[tidal bronze]

Replication in a friend's garage. No need for that cloud string.

[warm helm]

built my parents a NAS, important stuff of theirs is backed up to my overkill nas and my important stuff is backed up there on a n100 nuc with 4 bay das

[lone dagger]

Horcrux meaning you get muted for 15 minutes.

😂

[forest edge]

beetlejuice beetlejuice beetlejuice

[lone dagger]

Lmao Just casually have a server at a friend’s.

[tidal bronze]

Well why not. it's a 2-way street

[lone dagger]

I dunno. I’ll pull a Wordpress and say they aren’t contributing then take away all their media.

[tidal bronze]

Replication across the country to garages is a wonderful thing.

[lone dagger]

ONE BIG NETWORK TO ATTACK

NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS

EVERY THING IS FINE

[tidal bronze]

Home grown THC at work

[lone dagger]

Relevant.

I don’t know what this is from but it’s got a story going on.

[tidal bronze]

Finally some notifications 😆

[forest edge]

so your shit is so delayed it just spat out all 3 at once

you left out the 4th message of the food is burnt didn't you

[tidal bronze]

LMAO

Be happy for me I got some, at least 3 today.

[static schooner]

TFW you manage to pull the food at exactly the 130.10001F that you set the alarm to

precision cooking

[unborn merlin]

its not precision unless you use a lab-oven that runs a 3d printer firmware. /s

🤣

temp control within around 0.5-1c on that.

[midnight adder]

he's right tho

even in Celsius

that's Pro stuff

[unborn merlin]

its a little more precise than when I got it. 🙃

[midnight adder]

but can it go to 11?

oh 20...

[lone dagger]

One of the YouTubers we watch just got one of those or something like it, they used it to dry pumpkins to be put in resin.

[midnight adder]

probably a vacuum chamber?

[unborn merlin]

I mean it'd be even better to use a heated vacuum chamber for that

[midnight adder]

if he's working with resin he at least has one 😄

if he doesn't he's not a pro

[unborn merlin]

since higher temps+lower pressure makes water boil off a lot quicker..

[midnight adder]

you also don't want any bubbles in the resin

[lone dagger]

He and she, it’s a married couple.

[lone dagger]

I think it was this…

Nope!

It was freeze drying. https://youtu.be/83aqTTzSIgU?si=mrFEWve4qf2sbDa3

[unborn merlin]

I think I know the one you're talking about

yeah.

freeze drying is... It also sorta works but its different process

[midnight adder]

see... always better to not assume 😄 just use they!

[unborn merlin]

I think they ended up having to drill in and re-pot that with formaldehyde or something

as it started to rot

[midnight adder]

yeah freeze dry is with vacuum

[lone dagger]

The entire series of their resin pumpkins is just them making mistakes and doing it again.

[midnight adder]

it's not easy stuff yeah

[lone dagger]

This was either last year’s or the year before.

[midnight adder]

a pumpkin has a lot of water in it... usually you powder your stuff for the freeze dryer for best results 😄

[lone dagger]

These people give me ideas and I learn how to do it better because of their mistakes.

[unborn merlin]

freeze drying takes like.. a really long time for thicker things

[midnight adder]

the magic of learning 😄

[unborn merlin]

like, multiple days too

[lone dagger]

I don’t think I’d ever try to reason a pumpkin though.

[unborn merlin]

and thats on industrial machines. (as I learned from nilered)

[midnight adder]

well you can ... but not as a whole

[lone dagger]

It took like a few days, I think.

[midnight adder]

I mean if you have a lot of freezedryers and a lot of free energy then ... maybe

[lone dagger]

These two also have so much that can be integrated into HA, I want to try to have them set things up and see how bad it goes.

[mortal walrus]

it does seem like freeze-drying a carved pumpkin, where the walls are carefully thinned out as much as possible, should be doable. Would probably take a really long time tho.

[static schooner]

Seems like some sort of laser scan + 3D print would be easier

Plus, cooler because lasers

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/laser-cat-laser-eyes-cucumber-cat-cute-gif-17760542

[lone dagger]

Easier, yes, but not good content.

[static schooner]

Surprisingly not outrageously expensive: https://buyersguide.org/3d-scanner/t/best?m=p&d=t&c=720249735019&p=&oid=kwd-103764111&lp=9007527&li=&nw=g&nts=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA1Km7BhC9ARIsAFZfEIu6trZjex8FZX7qqFXBR4vwozsarINjRM8o9oKl6dBSql3HPKYbudgaApx7EALw_wcB&tdid=10308357&gad_source=1

[lone dagger]

HERE WATCH THIS MACHINE PRINT SOMETHING

boring

WATCH US MAKE THIS PUMPKIN BEFORE WE LEAVE FOR TWITCH CON AGAIN

[static schooner]

Depends entirely on your goal, I guess

[lone dagger]

the goal is content to make money off YouTube.

[static schooner]

I would watch content on laser scanning to turn into a 3D printable model

[lone dagger]

But that’s like 3 minutes of “this scans something” and 5 minutes of “time lapse of print”.

[static schooner]

But sometimes all you want is to watch the hydraulic press channel

[midnight adder]

yes, after the dude who scratches all the new hardware

NOOOO

[forest edge]

have those ads removed for free huh?

[static schooner]

Incidentally, I saw a video where a Prince Rupert's Drop damaged a hydraulic press. That was cool

[forest edge]

you'll likely still have to owe YT premium in the end regardless lol

[midnight adder]

for that I need to physically move to Argentina

[lone dagger]

tbf they get sponsors and we buy their merch.

[forest edge]

what merch

[lone dagger]

So they get our money somehow.

[static schooner]

https://youtu.be/vZh_XSQ5WVU?si=0x6PLOhQxt1offgW

[lone dagger]

Mostly shirts/sweaters. Got some stickers for my son this year because they were cute af. Katelyn is a graphic designer, they do most of their own stuff.

[forest edge]

YouTube stickers? clothes?

[lone dagger]

No, not YouTube lol

The content creators

[forest edge]

oh lol

was like about go all tuya on you all over again

[lone dagger]

Not buying YouTube anything except to not be annoyed.

[forest edge]

kind of leaning towards chineseium press lol

[static schooner]

Yeah, I saw a few other videos when looking for that one that do eventually cause it to implode. Takes many tons of pressure, though

Gotta be careful to avoid breaking the tail for a good test

[glacial bobcat]

Where do i find the things needed here?

[static schooner]

There's no context to that question

[glacial bobcat]

sorry, let me give some now

[static schooner]

It looks like you should post in #1284966915055288530

[glacial bobcat]

got it, lemme go there

[static schooner]

Please post in the right channel

[lone dagger]

🫶🏻

[forest edge]

non optional socializing

first time I have ever heard that term used lol

or read

[lone dagger]

lol yeah that’s a choice they decided to make

[forest edge]

@tidal bronzejust realized you cooked prime rib at 8am... you eat that shit for breakfast?

[tidal bronze]

Reverse searing. Prime is resting

[forest edge]

wear it out did you? don't want to know!

[static schooner]

It's kicking back, watching TV and drinking a beer

[forest edge]

where did it get the beer? know damn well he don't stock that lmao

[tidal bronze]

Yep, no beer here.

[forest edge]

may as well just hang a sign, "No fun here"

just below the "Caution! Fully automated house. Watch fingers and toes at all times"

[tidal bronze]

Oh, one of these days for sure.

[cinder sparrow]

I have a friend looking for a job that went to school for internet security but can't get a job because of loans. Any place for him here?

[lone dagger]

I ...have no idea how those 2 things connect.

[unborn merlin]

they don't even slightly; thus showing the lack of paying attention... 🙃

[static schooner]

I hear that there's an unpaid position whose sole responsibility is to shitpost here

You can start anytime you want

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/theoffice-michael-scott-gif-18122359

[static schooner]

It's some coded spycraft message

The chair is against the wall...

[primal laurel]

the goat has been milked... the goat has been milked...

I bet @red rock gets this one

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/suspicious-spy-hmm-im-listening-gif-19933279

[lone dagger]

Maybe one day people will shitpost hard enough that I decide to reward them with stickers.

[static schooner]

Challenge...accepted

[unborn merlin]

that wascalled reddit.

[weak musk]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-testing-me-satan-father-priest-gif-17392429

[lone dagger]

I hope y'all take that as a challenge, yes.

lmao

The pinned messages are really fun to read through. 🤣

[crisp oriole]

omg never ever did i tought a computer would get tired of debugging..

I had to say please to trigger a home assistant function that kept failing

[hollow glacier]

[red rock]

Yes

[tidal bronze]

That chicken 🐔

[primal laurel]

I can eat 1 of those

[tidal bronze]

All 5lbs huh?

[grizzled gull]

Happy Holidays everyone

I found Charlie Browns Christmas Tree in Aruba!

[tidal bronze]

Nice. but isn't every day a super fantastic happy day!

[grizzled gull]

It is, especially in the tropical sun, not having to host guests!

Or clean up

[tidal bronze]

Oh sun? We have that without the humidity. Crisp 70f how can you ask for more? 🙂 I agree with the guests part though

[grizzled gull]

Honestly it's not that bad here, nice wind off the water

[tidal bronze]

ouch 70%

[grizzled gull]

Shrug, it was 15 degrees when I left home, sooooo

[tidal bronze]

Apples to cantaloupe I get it.

Jokes aside have an amazing holiday!

[lone dagger]

You're not the boss of them.

[tidal bronze]

Do you know of a BOSS?

[lone dagger]

Me?

https://tenor.com/view/bye-lol-shoulder-brush-zendaya-gif-4511226

[tidal bronze]

Nice cold shoulder top! 🙂

But boss, eh

[lone dagger]

I am surprised you know what that top is called.

[tidal bronze]

Welcome to LA

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-salivating-drooling-drool-saliva-gif-22893007

[lone dagger]

You can live somewhere and not know the marketing terms for women's clothing.

[tidal bronze]

I agree. But you know, I know. 😆

[lone dagger]

🤣

[tidal bronze]

BTW do you rock cold sholders? 🤣

[lone dagger]

ROFL I wore one in my HASS podcast appearance.

[static schooner]

I thought that was a live picture

[ocean oar]

Confirmed the garment functions as advertised, also: #the-water-cooler message

My poor attempt to make Missy laugh out loud on the live stream

[tidal bronze]

Garment? Its been awhile since I heard that. 🤣

You need some round lab or sulwhasoo

Anyways we all need to meet up in 2025 for a glass of wine.

[lone dagger]

So what I am hearing is everyone will come to Washington state for Home Assistant Community Day.

[tidal bronze]

Anywhere as long as there's cabernet

[lone dagger]

Have you had sangiovese?

[tidal bronze]

Like it as well. Not as fully body as I would like but good

[lone dagger]

I'll share that and a good tempranillo with you then.

[tidal bronze]

Now we are talking.

Got a total wine near by?

[lone dagger]

Sure do!

Well, near is subjective here.

But yes we have them.

[tidal bronze]

Outstanding. Count me in.

[tidal bronze]

BTW pretty impressed that you know this for non wine drinker.

[cinder sparrow]

Who tf is Stafan? I didn't ring his bell

[tidal bronze]

You are my new cab franc buddy

[lone dagger]

I am a wine drinker, it's one of the few things I am a snob about.

I just don't drink often.

[cinder sparrow]

If he didn't understand the question he should've kept his mouth shut

[iron granite]

[tidal bronze]

Easy tiger! We don't open or shut mouths here. Tread easy.

[cinder sparrow]

I was asking a question if he didn't have an answer he shouldn't have answered. I didn't need his acknowledgement he didn't understand the question

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/calm-down-a-bit-calm-down-relax-gif-10599880

[tidal bronze]

We are all here voluntarily, no one is obliged to do anything for anyone. If you didn't like what you got move on.

[lone dagger]

I also acknowledged I didn't understand it.

I just didn't tag you.

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-and-the-holy-grail-she-tirned-me-into-a-newt-gif-14862319

[atomic delta]

https://tenor.com/view/no-surely-not-disagree-annoyed-comedy-gif-12099688

[tidal bronze]

Why you create problems my dude?

[primal laurel]

I'm innocent

[lone dagger]

I have figured out how to successfully do what I want with actionable notifications!

https://tenor.com/view/muahaha-louise-belcher-bobs-burgers-fire-gif-4141392

[tidal bronze]

So what's your actionable action for a bill?

[atomic delta]

I've never actually looked at HA's notification capabilities. I'm used to using Tasker and AutoNotification for everything.

[lone dagger]

Either dismiss or remind me in a day.

[tidal bronze]

Such a wooz

[lone dagger]

Set up a chores one that will mark an item completed on a to-do list then also add the same task back to the to-do list.

Then an automation to clear completed items daily.

This is ridiculous, I absolutely know this.

[atomic delta]

You want ridiculous, I'm sure we can come up with something more ridiculous.

[tidal bronze]

This is what happens when there is temprature imbalance because of your cold shoulder.

[lone dagger]

Well, I am adding in random messages created by my local LLM as random options, so I am getting to pretty ridiculous.

[atomic delta]

Ooh, yeah, that'd do it.

[lone dagger]

I bet I can take it to stupid ridiculous eventually.

[ocean oar]

I wonder if you could turn actionable notifications into a shitty quiz game, send it to all the household members and do... something... depending on who answers first

[tidal bronze]

Oh my 6AM is too early to start with wine.

[lone dagger]

YES

You can set these up to only allow one person to have control over options.

Or responses?

[atomic delta]

Nerf launcher activates in everyone else's rooms.

[lone dagger]

Eh, not sure how to phrase that.

[ocean oar]

First to answer correctly gets to pick the HVAC temperature for the next hour 😄

[lone dagger]

"if <user> selects <option 1> open <dashboard to set HVAC temp>"

Fairly sure that's about it.

[atomic delta]

And set a variable to deny future attempts at the same response from other users.

[lone dagger]

Just realized my music stopped.

[tidal bronze]

@lone dagger so you ignore or snooze the notification. End of the day does it really matter? You will have to pay up Comcast anyway!?

[atomic delta]

Comcast holiday bonus time! And it's a... bag of feces.

[lone dagger]

lmao. I actually use notifications unlike a lot of others.

I intentionally use them as "do this fucking now or you forget" things.

[atomic delta]

So everything?

[lone dagger]

And won't dismiss them until they've been completed.

[tidal bronze]

I get it. Just to make you feel better. Nothing critical.

As in fuck ya I paid this shit! Feeling

If you miss that Comcast shit I am pretty sure you will know, notification or not. 🤣

[lone dagger]

lmao right??

They text me if I am overdue.

That's annoying enough.

Mostly these bill-related notifications are to ensure that the right money is in the right account getting charged.

[primal laurel]

I once got a call from the bank because I sent 30 euros to my german friend. Bro, it's 30 euros

[tidal bronze]

What's a Euro?

[lone dagger]

oh my gods I just realized I could do this fucking notification thing to automate vacuuming and tell me if Rosey doesn't run!

lmfao I have gone too far.

[primal laurel]

think dollar, but instead you pay with in (most) EU countries

[tidal bronze]

Ah I thought it was something like Cadbury

[lone dagger]

Psh, that is too much for our tiny Murican brains to understand.

The EU is nothing like our federal government governing states.

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/austinpowers-drevil-mike-myers-evil-laugh-ohhh-gif-5624378

[lone dagger]

Man, imagine if the US states were like "we should have our own currency in addition to the federal currency!"

[primal laurel]

to be honest, I haven't used cash in years. Even abroad in countries that don't use euro I can always pay debit

[tidal bronze]

Not a bad idea. You would love some bear money.

[lone dagger]

Awwww yeeee got my first Reply Guy response about HA on Bluesky. "why don't you use node red????"

Bzzzzzzz outta here, lmfao.

[primal laurel]

what is your bsky?

[lone dagger]

same as my Discord.

adorablecyborg.bsky.social

Enjoy my shit ass opinions!

Don't say I didn't warn you - I am fucking annoying.

[tidal bronze]

All of a sudden?

[lone dagger]

I am not saying it's new.

[primal laurel]

its fine. I mostly use feeds on specific topics anyway ahaha

[lone dagger]

I am just saying be prepared.

[tidal bronze]

Oh we are

[lone dagger]

lmao I filter myself well here.

Follow the rules I built or something I guess.

[tidal bronze]

Isn't it hard to follow rules with your baseline THC levels?

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/alf-rules-rules-rules-rules-rules-are-rules-gif-26155968

[rugged ingot]

two weeks ago the facebook algorithm started showing me Home Assistant (I presume because I was down the buying Govee devices rabbit hole) and I had never heard of HA or Unraid or any of this stuff. Haha. A complete noob. Now I have bought and setup reolink cameras, turned my old gaming rig into an unraid server, running plex media server, and am nerding out so hard. So glad this place is here 😂 thanks for helping me get back into tech!

[lone dagger]

My baseline THC levels are what I work on. We gucci.

[ocean oar]

A rare instance of Facebook doing something good

[rugged ingot]

idk if you're joking but that's facts here 😂

[tidal bronze]

Oh wow, Gucci huh.

[lone dagger]

Like half joking lmfao.

[tidal bronze]

Great when we speak the same language

[lone dagger]

My favorite thing is shoving generational phrasing at older people to fuck with them.

[tidal bronze]

Projecting that rizz you say?

[lone dagger]

Ugh, I need to go clean up for the vacuum now that playlist is done.

[lone dagger]

The best thing about all this is that once I sent the message about being gucci, I went to take a drink and managed to not put the straw in my entire mouth and sprayed water all over myself.

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-bart-simpson-join-us-sit-here-gif-15631014

[tidal bronze]

Please not again. You stirred up enough shit for one day

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-star-wars-foreseen-vision-psychic-gif-12611637

[rugged ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-whos-sus-not-me-gif-7283757931826139493

[primal laurel]

what's the shit stirring budget for today? @lone dagger

[tidal bronze]

Is that a reolink looking at you?

[rugged ingot]

lol looks like it

[tidal bronze]

What a beautiful 71!

[primal laurel]

I had north korean alcohol

[tidal bronze]

You should try the south. North gets you into trouble.

[primal laurel]

I wasn't there, my chinese friends brought it

[tidal bronze]

Not the geo location but what it does to you 😛

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-ds9-john-de-gif-27613071

[iron granite]

https://youtu.be/3KvWwJ6sh5s

[simple gazelle]

And then Sisko punched him, thus making him best captain.

[primal laurel]

im going to rewatch TNG

[simple gazelle]

Okay, I'm festively tipsy, I like to say the Picard is my favourite captain, he is playing Mass Effect and debating the Renegade button every time, but chooses Paragon. Sisko is doing a challenge run where he's not allowed to use Charm or Intimidate, so never has a third way.

[hollow glacier]

Merry Christmas 🎄 Eve nerds

[simple gazelle]

I will elaborate, at length, this is a threat.

[lone dagger]

It's the holidays. Let's raise it!

[atomic beacon]

Need to get to my son's so I can get started!!

[ocean oar]

IMHO this looks more like Pierce Brosnan than it does Patrick Stuart

[tidal bronze]

Please hold

[iron granite]

Jean-Luc Picard 007 - with the licence to stun

[static schooner]

I would recognize those as Patrick Stewart

[tidal bronze]

Get outta here. Dude got Atlanta issues all of a sudden

[static schooner]

More so if that was tea instead of whatever frou frou thing that is

Some Starbucks coffee thing

[primal laurel]

please create Locutus of Borg - christmas edition

[simple gazelle]

Is this a cloud service or (knowing this crowd) running A11111111111 locally?

[midnight adder]

Gucci Caligenetics?

[simple gazelle]

I mean... Skynet can be religious, in RoboCop vs Terminator they revere RoboCop as "The Creator"

[primal laurel]

this is christmas terminator

[static schooner]

A key feature of the borg is that they're kinda non-threatening looking

Weird human/machine hybrids, but not like nightmare scary

Closer to dumb robots

Klingons are way scarier

[tidal bronze]

You gone soft?

[shell basalt]

they got pills for that now

[tidal bronze]

What now? You saying Rob is on Hims?

[simple gazelle]

Borg are body horror, they look sickly and twisted.

[static schooner]

Just in a sterile kinda way

[simple gazelle]

It's meant to be unnerving, admittedly my mind is mostly full of First Contact, less so how they appeared in the series.

[static schooner]

They're scarier as individuals than as parts of the collective

[primal laurel]

Like the right point on the uncanny valley

[midnight adder]

I still haven't played with Assist much yet. I'm still trying to figure a few things out. Last night I was able to query the system and get results for humidity and temperature from my Sonoff sensors around the house but it doesn't seem to be cooperating anymore. I did have a couple of beers or 12, so things are a little hazy on how I did it in the first place, though.

[lone dagger]

The beer makes things easier, though!

[midnight adder]

On a side note, have you seen these little bad boys that Nvidia just unleashed on the world? The future is looking bright!! 😎 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9L2WGf1KrM&ab_channel=NVIDIA

[midnight adder]

HAHA! Sometimes. Other times it causes damage to things like drywall and doors. 😉

Especially when trying to figure out why my Echo routines and LIFX lights are malfunctioning

[lone dagger]

I am plugging in my voice PE to see if I can get this time suggesting working lmfao.

[midnight adder]

Nice

[lone dagger]

Let's see if I can get it working. 😄

Just got my actionable notification triggered by a calendar event working after screaming at my instance for 15 minutes because it wouldn't update the items properly.

[midnight adder]

I'm going to be buying a bunch of those for sure when my budget allows -- I have an old shitty house though, so not sure when that will be. Also I'm kind of waiting on the sidelines to see how everything rolls out and what improvements happen over the next little while. Looks promising though!

[lone dagger]

-# A reboot fixed it... :/

[lone dagger]

I uh...haven't updated it in a couple weeks.

Bad employee.

[midnight adder]

It happens. but you know what they say -- sometimes in order to have freedom you need to lose everything first. (I dunno, do they say that or did I just make that up? 🤔 ) Anyway, my HA system has become so discombobulated that at this point I'll need to do an almost full restart, hardware and all. I don't care what happens anymore, aside from my alarm system stuff, so I update with reckless abandon.

There's only one way to go from the bottom.

Missy, did you take a look at the "NVIDIA Jetson Orin Nano Super"? (Quite a mouthful) the product looks like it'll work wonders with local LLMs, and the price-point is clutch.

[lone dagger]

I've seen it! I think it'll be a good bridge between high powered devices and low end devices.

[midnight adder]

Right, for those of us that don't want to spend thousands on a 5090 and spend $10 a day on electricity to run a server just to tell us dad jokes when we ask it to. 😆

[lone dagger]

I am grateful that I just happen to not use my gaming PC for its intention.

I think this is basically what you are trying to do, yeah? https://community.home-assistant.io/t/unable-to-find-how-to-get-ha-to-tell-me-what-time-it-is/725352/7

[midnight adder]

lol Yes, thankfully the releases over the last couple of years have been pretty dry. Cyberpunk looks amazing, but not enough to convince me to drop another 5k on a gaming PC. My old 2070 runs the silly little deck-builder games that I enjoy these days just fine.

I'll take a look at the link. Thanks!

[lone dagger]

Eh, that post is close but not exact.

It's kind of what I was thinking that needed to happen - have to define the time it spits out in the automation.

[midnight adder]

I have a date/time integration that I was using to feed my Echo for my morning routine automation, but it's unclear on how I can use these sorts of things with Assist.

My initial impression after playing with it for the short time that I have is that Assist would benefit from an additional section (besides "Expose - alias") that allows scripts or automations that are directly tied to Assist. You could just do the same with automations and a "say" trigger, but it may be better organized if you could just open up a page that has stuff that is strictly voice related?

Anyway, not trying to turn this into a support channel. I just have no life so it seems this is the most interesting subject matter I can come up with. 😉

data:
datetime: "{{ now().timestamp() | timestamp_local }}"
target:
entity_id: input_datetime.sleep_mode_last_initiated
action: input_datetime.set_datetime

[shell basalt]

but your namesake is all about telling tall tales and chasing windmills and slaying dragons

[midnight adder]

That's how I tell my system what time I inititiated "sleep mode"

Yes, but I am tilting at home automation servers

[upbeat bobcat]

does anyone know the icon that the source selector uses? how do I use that tick as a custom icon? cant seem to find it in mdi:

[midnight adder]

and let's not forget chasing imaginary princesses

[midnight adder]

To clarify, "sleep_mode_last_initiated" is a helper.

[iron granite]

That's something for the support channels

[static schooner]

Scrooge

[midnight adder]

In what way?

I'm not offering support, just talking casually about how I solved a problem I was trying to tackle.

Would you rather I talk about the wall I framed and gyp-rocked the other night?

Yeah, it's really cool. I'm building an accent wall with octagonal sound-dampening panels that will have an LED strip for edge lighting

Sorry Jorg, were you addressing me or Freeman?

[iron granite]

You are asking how to feed a helper updated by an automation to Assist. That's a question for the support channels, not for this channel.