the-water-cooler

[forest edge]

no shit? why it take this long?

[lone dagger]

Uh my learning or the change? 🤣

[forest edge]

"so that's why noone was using them!"

[grizzled gull]

I agree on making scripts, heck you can even make scripts for each event and just call it when you want too(christmas light) (football light)(Turkey Day lights) etc etc, then you're only changing the scripts....

[weak musk]

https://tenor.com/view/both-why-dont-we-have-both-gif-14036264

[weak musk]

100000000 times this

[lone dagger]

I couldn’t figure scenes out reading the docs and nothing in product helps so I gave up. Until Franck explained them during a call last week because of this release.

[ember heart]

Ok, now this is interesting.. if I take three light bulb entities and put them in a group it makes "one bulb" then it is NOT a group.. it should be called something like "merge lights" not "group lights" then the behavior would make sense as it would merge the lights to make one...?

[forest edge]

how is that not a group?

you are grouping multiple together

[grizzled gull]

horse meet water!

[weak musk]

Will he drink?

[ember heart]

I guess I don't get how this is so different in haos vs the rest of the eco systems I've worked with. If I snap shot a scene in Hue, then restore that scene, it restores each light to its previous state..

[lone dagger]

Levels, here’s what my husband says about Home Assistant:

Take whatever you know about any other product feature names and forget how they work. Home Assistant should be viewed as a unique thing.

[forest edge]

yea cause those work like someone put each entity into a script and called them seperatly with light_on

thats exactly how tplink does it

you just don't see the background lol

[ember heart]

No, they work as a group since if they called the sperately you would get the "popcorn" effect of lights oming on at different times.

[forest edge]

so anyways back to them fixing scenes

[glacial knot]

Scenes don't do that in HA???
I've never used them o.0

[weak musk]

https://tenor.com/view/what-have-you-done-winston-john-wick-gif-20034842

[forest edge]

I remember when scenes was released. it was confusing AF right out of the gate on how they worked.. on paper tho they sounded awesome

[ember heart]

No. as an example:

• Make a light group called "Xmas Lights"
• Put three light bulbs in it
• Set the lights to be one Bulb RED one bulb GREEN and one bulb BLUE
• do a scene:create
• do a scene restore
  all bulbs turn white

[glacial knot]

ohh, if the group is the member that makes sense with how HA behaves
still slightly silly

[forest edge]

all I remember is trying to edit a scene and seeing the previous enityb light added go from the color it was suppose to be to the color it was currently at that point in time and getting frustrated lol

[weak musk]

Levels That only happens if you’re using the light group in the scene though not if you have the 3 individual lights in the scene

[ember heart]

at the moment, the work around is to scene create each individual bulb.. which makes editing tough if you change a bulb you have to go change every automatin that had a scene crate in it and replace that member.. I was using groups and now I find it doesn't work that way 😛

[grizzled gull]

No!

[forest edge]

you have to like reset up every light in it to what you want prior to even clicking the edit button lol

[grizzled gull]

You can keep your group, it can turn the lights all on to max brightness and the same color temp, but when it goes back to the previous you can call a script to change it whatever you want(christmas lights)

[forest edge]

sorry hun, i need to change this one light color to a slightly dimmer color.. nevermind the rest of the house looking like an 80's disco

[grizzled gull]

That might be fun

[ember heart]

Thats the thing- I don't know what it was before.. is it game day and the lights were the team colors? Were they dark orange because it is after 10 pm? were they off since it is after midnight?

[lone dagger]

I use groups to only control on and off of lights in an area. Like, the lights in my mud room fixture are a group for my automation.

[forest edge]

porch lights

no brainer group

[ember heart]

I guess you haven't seen the marketing photos that Hue puts out where they paint entire rooms in color palettes that allow you to essentially repaint a room without ever buying paint..

[weak musk]

I use them exclusively for the dashboard (as you do it) not in any scripts or automations.

[weary cove]

There's a custom component that implements hue-like scenes, @ember heart

It's called scene presets

[forest edge]

no, but that does not surprise me.

[weary cove]

Oops, It's not in HACS, you have to manually add the repo

[grizzled gull]

I've discovered a new favorite color, orange LED strip around my projector screen on a red wall, its oddly satisfying

[lone dagger]

My city is hilarious sometimes.

[ember heart]

oh! thats cool! I did miss the very well designed scenes from hue! Thx! 👍🙂

[grizzled gull]

Missy,

[lone dagger]

I can’t say any of those names out loud without giggling.

[weary cove]

No Snowplowy McSnowplowface?

[ember heart]

I guess if I put all the scenes in place and then just never set a light color in an automation that might be another way around this.. 🤔

[lone dagger]

Why are we 2 years too late???

[lone dagger]

[grizzled gull]

@weary cove there's your plowy mcplowface

[lone dagger]

WOW WELL everyone should read them out loud at least once. It’ll make you smile.

[forest edge]

if they are not marking these plows with those names on the side.. it's all a waste

[grizzled gull]

oh forgot 2024

[weak musk]

https://tenor.com/view/greys-anatomy-nich-marsh-wait-im-sorry-did-you-just-change-the-subject-did-you-change-the-subject-gif-25217112

[forest edge]

Dolly Plowton sounds like a porno lol

[ember heart]

(installing that scene thingy as I want my hue palletes back! 😁😂🤣 )

[grizzled gull]

That would be Dolly Plowtown!

[ember heart]

hot damn! those presets are AWESOME! 😁 👍🙂

[lone dagger]

[ember heart]

even has a whole line of preset for holiday/xmas... NICE

[weary cove]

Now I know what I'll use when my philips sconce lights by the front door finally work with z2m 😄

[ember heart]

My S.O. likes to "paint" with the lights in the living room and this is gunna allow simple setup of complex light colors across large group of bulbs.. COOL!!

She was not really very happy when I took out the hue hub and went to zigbeetomqtt ¯_(ツ)_/¯ she's gunna love this!

[forest edge]

just be careful with those dynamic scenes, those don't run on the bulbs themselves but on the machine that hosts HA which can be very taxing from what I learned

was sad to see my third reality bulbs didn't allow for custom effects

[ember heart]

It seems to just send a brightness/color value to each bulb .. it doesn't seem to need to continue to send something though..? 🤔

[forest edge]

dynamic is just that.. you can choose for it to loop through colors etc

[ember heart]

I don't see anything on cpu use.. I have been running a dynamic scene on 6 lights in my office for about 15 minutes now... and it doesn't seem like its affecting the cpu use at all..?

would I have to have more bulbs invovled b4 I see an impact?

[forest edge]

more bulbs, shorter transition times etc

slow changes with few bulbs will be fine, but once you crank up the speed and add more bulbs it will show lol

[ember heart]

good to know... TBH I have WLED for the really crazy moves.. I would expect the bubls to be slow rolling changes over minutes not seconds..

now that I have the 6 bulbs at 1 second interval and 1 sec transition cpu is hovering 9/10% instead of 6/7 so yeah.. I can see it would be a problem if I had a BUNCH of bulbs doing a disco 😄

[rose escarp]

Lol my i2s dac is being cheeck. Left channel works, right channel works stereo or mono: right channel only lol

[forest edge]

@last cedar they got my money when they showed the racoon being targeted. https://youtu.be/kgmwSnhqut0?si=rarmdR3r8aGcoTwH

[last cedar]

You are going to be painballing the local wildlife aren't you? :(@forest edge

[forest edge]

look at all the ammo options! who doesn't want to see me install one of these at the farm. lmao https://youtu.be/81BGmXy4Bno?si=qjQRTwXKqXbhlaTX

licked their last camera

spark ball cannot possibly be legal.. imagine setting a racoon on fire? lol

[last cedar]

No, lets not!

[primal laurel]

the only thing that really affects the CPU are updates and heavy frontend stuff

looks at apex charts...

[crisp oriole]

some one with a question to post family fotos in home assistant in facebook. I lookup my solution on the forum. update the code to latest version. want to post back on facebook. Post no where to be found.

[toxic oasis]

That's Facebook , you see a post once than it is lost forever ...

[primal laurel]

People still use Facebook?

[toxic oasis]

People are used by Facebook

[red rock]

People are abused by Facebook

[civic rivet]

Is nabu a european company or american? I know there's a bunch of europeans working in it. Was wondering how the shipping fees are for their devices. Curious about their upcoming voice hardware

(II know there's no support here was just wondering about people's experience with other HA-made hardware)

[glacial knot]

shipping to where?

[civic rivet]

Romania specifically, mentioned just eu as generally the shipping prices to whichever country are pretty similar

[glacial knot]

But the address line on the website looks suspiciously american to me

© Nabu Casa, Inc. - 15 Hubble Suite 200, Irvine, CA 92618

[civic rivet]

hopefully some retailer will bring it here without charging double the price for it. A pi zero 2 w here is about 30 bucks but it's out of stock everywhere exceptt stores that have it priced at $200 lol https://www.robofun.ro/platforme-de-dezvoltare/raspberry-pi-zero-w.html

oh my god thats not even a 2 w its a normal zero w

[clever mortar]

The answer for shipping fees always depends on where you buy from - Nabu Casa don't sell directly after all

[lone dagger]

Our distributors are world wide. You should be able to find a retailer without issue for Romania. 😎

[austere anchor]

So I was reading through the Open Home Foundation website to find the nonprofit information to donate (inspired by DuckDuckGo) and I didn’t see anything. It suggests a Nabu Casa subscription instead. The thing is, I can’t have my employer match that because it’s not a nonprofit.

Does anyone know how to make a direct donation?

[solar zealot]

Donations are generally only possible for larger (5+ digits) amounts

If so, you can contact them through their official channels which I suppose means writing them an email

[civic rivet]

Thank you for the quick reply! Excited for the launch stream

[lone dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/same-girl-same-same-girl-gif-9614362298173321997

[lone dagger]

Still no direct way for regular people to donate. Right now, the only ones accepted are large donations (so if you have like 10k).

Donation funding models are really hard to keep consistent.

[austere anchor]

Ah. I’ve got $2k with the match.

[lone dagger]

That’d be generous! I wish we had something set up for y’all, I have been trying to figure out ways to do this that’ll stick.

[austere anchor]

Well, I get it annually. So maybe next year!

[grizzled gull]

Get 5 co-workers together instead?

[static schooner]

NC Cloud for everyone!

https://tenor.com/view/oprah-winfrey-gif-24849663

[tender haven]

Does anyone have a way to get ahold of the maintainer for aioecowitt - @light nest ? 🙂 This PR has been waiting since Oct 23 and would hopefully resolve gbs of log spam for ecowitt people 🙂 https://github.com/home-assistant-libs/aioecowitt/pull/209

[clever mortar]

Please go and re-read #rules and rule #6 about not pinging people to get their attention 😉

Also, PRs get reviewed when they're reviewed. The dev docs even mention being patient 😉

[tender haven]

Oops sorry! 🙂

[lavish spear]

tried updating to HAOS 14 and it removed/deactivated my network interfaces. any ideas (or what channel to ask in)?

[fathom sparrow]

#1284966540617449515

[jagged lodge]

comcast xfinity is such a mess. My approved 3rd party modem wouldn't connect so an agent had to manually activate it. Now the "xfinity bridge" that allows me to use a router won't connect so they have to escalate my issue to advanced tech support.

ofc they're the only provider in my area though

https://tenor.com/view/burn-elmo-pyro-burn-it-down-ashes-gif-1568086859785571548

You'd love this @lone dagger . I'm 3 support calls in and I havent' even gotten to the part where they need to approve my use of multiple zigbee devices

[fathom sparrow]

wdym "approve my use of multiple zigbee devices"

why would that be related to your ISP at all?

[lone dagger]

Because Comcast is awful.

[static schooner]

the whole point of Zigbee and ZWave is so that nobody can tell you what to do 🙂

[fathom sparrow]

are they claiming you can't use zigbee because it may interfere?

I'm not sure how it would be related to your network at all

because it would only be plugged into a device on your network

My parents have Hue, and xfinity, which is comcast. They also have the basic router. I set all that up without issues down in floRida

i.e. zigbee + comcast

[dawn badge]

if the isp know what devices you have on your network then i would consider that a network intrusion. its not their concern what you have attached?

[lone dagger]

Welcome to America.

[keen bridge]

Well it's not even on the network

[fathom sparrow]

yeah, that's what i'm confused about

[keen bridge]

Zigbee and ZWave are their own networks

[fathom sparrow]

how would they even know

You could have it completely not attached to your network, just in your house. How would they know?

[keen bridge]

They wouldn't

Unless they're crossing many boundaries and potentially breaking laws

[lone dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-gif-26166638

[lone dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/probably-willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-maybe-perhaps-who-knows-gif-21443419

[fathom sparrow]

Did they say this to you directly or did you tell them "I plan to use zigbee"

because they can't even stop you from using it

if they attempted to block the signal, they would block all your wifi as well

[jagged lodge]

"were sorry but your approved device is your own problem. contact the manufacturer" MF ITS YOUR BRIDGE THATS THE PROBLEM

[lone dagger]

I am very surprised that y'all have this much faith in the Tier 1 support of Comcast.

They are idiots following a script and will say dumb shit.

[jagged lodge]

they limit the number of connectable devices, im guessing to cut data usage

[fathom sparrow]

that's wifi devices, not zigbee

[dawn badge]

wah!

[static schooner]

and still completely nonsense

[jagged lodge]

they count zigbee as wifi. dont ask lol

[fathom sparrow]

they literally can't

[lone dagger]

I'll repeat.

[fathom sparrow]

that's what I'm saying

[grizzled gull]

how are they even seeing your zigbee devices?

[fathom sparrow]

they can't!

[grizzled gull]

I'm late to this conversaton, but so very confused

[jagged lodge]

they can see the number of connected devices because you cant use your own wifi router or firewall system

[lone dagger]

tbh I think everyone is at this point.

[fathom sparrow]

again that's only wifi!

[jagged lodge]

you would absolutely think so

[static schooner]

give them a nice pat on the head and tell them whatever they want to hear

[jagged lodge]

but somehow they know

[fathom sparrow]

I guarantee you have a miss conception in this

[grizzled gull]

Zigbee devices only share frequencies... its no different then if your neighbor had 500 wifi devices, comcast couldn't say crap

[fathom sparrow]

right

[keen bridge]

The zigbee bridge will only count as one device, but HA zigbee coordinators will either connect to HA via USB or ethernet

[jagged lodge]

im going through the process rn. i'll let you know once i hit a dozen devices

[fathom sparrow]

it's impossible for them to see your zigbee devices

[keen bridge]

The point of zigbee is it's not internet connected

[fathom sparrow]

I think you confused the person you're talking to on the phone

[dawn badge]

thats like a power company charging you for the power you use from a generator. they cant possibly know

[keen bridge]

Or power from solar.

[grizzled gull]

unless you use a deadmans cable and shock a line worker when they hook up power 😛

[keen bridge]

Or heat from the sun

[jagged lodge]

no i just asked them to connect my wifi router to my modem today. they said they couldnt open the bridge mode and i have to check my modem

[fathom sparrow]

zigbee will only ever show up as 1 device on your network. It will show up as the bridge thats connecting to all your zigbee devices, that's it.

[dawn badge]

well there is that, but thats a different story 😛

[fathom sparrow]

and the bridge I'm talking about is not the same as whatever you're saying with "bridge mode"

[jagged lodge]

oh i just talking about their wifi router "bridge" mode. the thing that lets your modem assign IPs im guessing

[grizzled gull]

For those of you who don't know what a deadmans power cord is, its a cord with 2 male ends people will hook up their house to their generator in case of power outages, but it can back feed into the mains if you don't pull your main breaker

[jagged lodge]

this thing https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/wireless-gateway-enable-disable-bridge-mode

[fathom sparrow]

Ok, so I literally just set up 3 weeks ago a zigbee network on that same router

so what you're asaying is 100% off base

[grizzled gull]

If you're using bridge mode then you need your own router, the modem just acts as a modem only

Thats why they cannot help you

[jagged lodge]

cant access 10.0.0.1 for their admin tool. cant access 192.168.100.1 for the modem settings

[jagged lodge]

i have my own modem and router. CODA56 and unifi ap

[dawn badge]

an AP is not a router

[jagged lodge]

did i just make a major noob mistake lol

[fathom sparrow]

alright, so to recap, your comment here

approve my use of multiple zigbee devices
Is off base, you don't need approval for anything

[jagged lodge]

i still cant access 10.0.0.1 or 192.168.100.1. My IP and host are within normal ranges. i dont understand subnet stuff but its on autoconfig

[static schooner]

or... "We collectively approve of your use of any number of Zigbee devices" 🙂

[grizzled gull]

https://www.amazon.com/Hitron-CODA56-Multi-Gigabit-Certified-Spectrum/dp/B0BKZ4DHNL?th=1 is just modem, you need a router

[jagged lodge]

i thought the Unifi AP acted as a wifi router. i def messed that up. Still cant figure out why I cant access admin settings through comcast or hitron though

[grizzled gull]

Have you connected a ethernet cable to your modem to your computer? It SHOULD be able to grab a DHCP

[dawn badge]

it will also expose your pc to all random incoming requests

[grizzled gull]

I was just thinking that

[jagged lodge]

it all looks normal

[dawn badge]

you have an external IP

there is no local network

[grizzled gull]

Just go to the store and buy a 20 dollar router for now lol

[jagged lodge]

can i change that?

[dawn badge]

get a router

[grizzled gull]

And with that I'm headed to lunch

[lone dagger]

I mean do you really think someone is actively trying at this moment to access this random person’s network devices?

[grizzled gull]

Missy if you saw the amount of random requests that hit my firewall you'd be amazed

[jagged lodge]

yeah ill run over to microcenter after work

[dawn badge]

yup

[jagged lodge]

ok, routers and APs are different. i think i may need to watch some home networking 101 videos on youtube

[lone dagger]

wtf are y’all doing that you’re getting random requests lol

[dawn badge]

do you have a spare PC with 2 network cards? you could install opnsense on it and make your own router

[weak musk]

lol I’m sure you’re getting them too

[dawn badge]

everyone is constantly getting scanned

[grizzled gull]

Michael, he didn't know the difference between a router and a AP, do you really think setting up opensense would be a workable soluation 🙂

[dawn badge]

this is a fair point and well made

[grizzled gull]

on a totally different convesation I can't access microcenter it tells me forbiden

[lone dagger]

I’ve never seen requests myself, but also I haven’t looked in ages.

[grizzled gull]

Which is odd because my work computer via VPN works just fine lol

[fathom sparrow]

So, did you buy the AP because you thought you'd hit a device limit with zigbee? If yes, just remove the AP for now and try to set this up without it. Your Zigbee bridge will only be 1 additional device on your network. And if you already have HA, then it will be 0 additioinal devices

[jagged lodge]

no, i bought my own modem this week to prevent the monthly fee. im just getting connected to the internet right now. the issues were with the xfinity gateway modems

[weak musk]

Modem is different than ap

[fathom sparrow]

ah ok, so if you got the modem, you need a router

You'll need a modem, router, and access point

most routers have built in access points

[jagged lodge]

yeah i think imma grab the UI dream router. built in PoE is nice https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/all-unifi-cloud-gateways/products/udr?s=us&l=en

[fathom sparrow]

Yes, my sister has that

it's nice

and it's easy, however I manage it

[distant junco]

Often times a "router" is a switch, modem AP and phone station all in one.

[fathom sparrow]

Yep, that's what the Dream Router is that he linked

[grizzled gull]

while you're waiting youl coudl get https://www.microcenter.com/product/632419/tp-link-archer-ax1500-wifi-6-smart-wifi-router until your dream arives

[jagged lodge]

xfinity has the UCI as an approved modem. its significantly more expensive than the hitron coda56 but it would make networking easy https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/internet-solutions/collections/pro-internet-solutions/products/uci

[fathom sparrow]

You don't need that, that's a modem

you need a router

[jagged lodge]

yeah i mean return the hitron and go all UI

[grizzled gull]

why!

[fathom sparrow]

I'd keep your modem

[grizzled gull]

there is 0 networking between your modem and router

[fathom sparrow]

I ran a motorola modem + unifi router for years

[jagged lodge]

yeah ill keep the modem. i just like the UI software

[grizzled gull]

plug cable in wan port on router and modem and turn them both on

[fathom sparrow]

now I have one of those modems for fiber, OAR or whatever they are called

[dawn badge]

theres definetly an arguement for just paying the isp the money and using their equipment at this point. if you dont know enough networking equipment to get to this point then its likely you will have other issues and they wont be able to help. plus how much is the fee and how many months are you looking at to recoop the cost of a >$200 of networking equipment

[jagged lodge]

xfinity offers a whopping 4 modem choices lol

[lone dagger]

[grizzled gull]

The problem with comcrap stuff is they also share your internet

[jagged lodge]

they charge 20 a month

[grizzled gull]

have guest wifi that you can't turn off and takes up frequencies

[jagged lodge]

240 per year is unbelievable for a crappy modem/router combo

[fathom sparrow]

Yah, just keep your modem, buy the dream machine and be done with it

[dawn badge]

that's robbery

[grizzled gull]

That's comcast

[fathom sparrow]

it's $300 for the dream machine and the interface is friendly, there's plenty of videos on the web that specifically use Unifi

[grizzled gull]

Theres's a reason I am still on 120mbit dsl

[fathom sparrow]

the price tag is high, but you'll have alot of resources to use as a beginner

[jagged lodge]

thanks, i def made a beginner mistake on this one

[fathom sparrow]

You also missed the black friday deals!

(if they had any)

[jagged lodge]

the only other internet option in my area was fios 5g. comcast has an effective monopoly on broadband in philly

thats why they have a stadium named after them

[grizzled gull]

my 120mbit dsl is uncapped, is 60 bucks a month, no equipment charges, only thing I ever would struggle with is playing FS2024

[fathom sparrow]

You won't be disappointed with Unifi unless you run into issues. I've only ran into issues with their older equipment

[weak musk]

I have 300mbit uncapped for 70/month also no equipment charges.

[fathom sparrow]

500 up/down 50/mo, no equipment

[grizzled gull]

lucky, if we get fiber here it would be 65 uncapped

1000mbit

but I'm stuck in an old centurylink qwest area they don't want to put money into

[fathom sparrow]

I think I can get 1000 for 80/mo

[grizzled gull]

only reason I even have 120mbit is because its fiber to the dslam

[fathom sparrow]

ah

[weak musk]

The municipal fiber in the town nextdoor offers 2gig symmetrical for 100 which is absurd

[fathom sparrow]

Yeah, that's basically what I'm on

[grizzled gull]

I'll be totally honest, I work from home with 120mbit/10 up and its just fine, only person who complains is my kid when game updates take to long

[fathom sparrow]

not the speeds, but that type of situation

[jagged lodge]

dream machine is sold out in a lot of spots. i wonder if its supply chain or theyre making a new model

[fathom sparrow]

he can go touch grass!

[fathom sparrow]

do you already have the access point?

[jagged lodge]

i still have the U6, didnt return it yet

[dusky plank]

my experience in dealing with unifi devices was quite bad 😂
it went a bit like this
https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubiquiti/comments/1adl57p/u6lr_very_high_failure_rate/

[fathom sparrow]

You could shell out 80 more for https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/all-unifi-cloud-gateways/products/udm-pro

if you already have the AP

My parents have that

at their cottage

[dusky plank]

they "work". until a client connects to them. then they crash and "work" again 😂

[jagged lodge]

i have a small 1 bedroom apt. i dont need much in terms of reach or total devices

[fathom sparrow]

Then return the AP and wait for the dream machine to come in

[fathom sparrow]

I've never had any of those issues

[jagged lodge]

found it here. it should be here in 1-2 days https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1519029-REG/ubiquiti_networks_udm_us_unifi_dream_machine.html

[dusky plank]

the devices in question were > 26 months old, no return possible. bad luck

[fathom sparrow]

then again, I don't have u6-LRs

[fathom sparrow]

bhphoto is a good site, I buy from them regularly

[fathom sparrow]

I have an U6-Lite, that's the newest AP I own

[jagged lodge]

i buy my camera gear and rentals from adorama, but their site says it ships from the manufacturer, and the UI site says they're out of stock

[crisp oriole]

Thats why i use linux with iptables

[dusky plank]

I stay away from unifi, works pretty well for me

[jagged lodge]

adorama has always been great with customer service. tons of good experiences with them

[dawn badge]

i have a u6-pro and very happy with it. dont have any other ubiquiti stuff though

[jagged lodge]

saved my ass several times when i forgot something on a shoot

[fathom sparrow]

I've heard there's issues with the 7s

[dawn badge]

i saw something about them getting a bit hotter then people expected but not much else

[jagged lodge]

thanks for helping everyone. not easy being new to home networking lol. im running back to work so ill ttyl

[dawn badge]

good luck

out of interest, does anyone else randomly get failed login attempt notifications from their mobile device?

the phone works fine with android companion app etc... but randomly with no pattern i can see i get these alerts

its one of those things thats not quite right but it hasnt really annoyed me enough to put time into trying to fix it. specially as its a random occurrence

[fathom sparrow]

I've seen it very seldomly

like once every 6 months or so

[dawn badge]

interesting mine is i would say, "most days but not every day"

[fathom sparrow]

is that your mobile device?

you might have old credentials on a laptop somewhere

[grizzled gull]

well it does say MK-phone... 😛

[fathom sparrow]

you assumed I read it fully 🤣

[cerulean karma]

I've had that happen on the mobile app sometimes.
Just a wild guess, the app was suspended by the OS and when launched back up it tries to use an expired short-lived access token or something.

App does a full refresh, logs in successfully, I get that notification and ignore it.
I swear one day someone will be actually trying to hack my install and I'd just be ... meh.

[glacial locust]

Oh my God, the internet is so expensive in America. Here it's €20/month for 2/1 Gbps.

[grizzled gull]

welcome to bend over and take it America, millionares need to be billionares

[cerulean karma]

Try €8 for 1000/1000 FTTH 🙂
Edit: I double checked the fine print, it's 940 down / 450 up... damn. I've been living a lie.

[glacial locust]

Well, at least here you get the speed 🙂 The 1/1 isn’t as cheap as over there, but you can get it for €12.

[cerulean karma]

More than enough for any home / SOHO use

[hollow glacier]

$50 for 1000/1000 ftth here

Or $70 to go to 2000/2000

[cerulean karma]

At least it's come down in price lately, right?

[grizzled gull]

yeah no

[hollow glacier]

Give it a couple years it’s gonna get way worse

They’re talking about reducing net neutrality or reversing it I think

The crony capitalism is likely to get much worse in the near future

[grizzled gull]

Does that affect the ISP's or the content providers more though

[cerulean karma]

I've heard some noise about that... it seems crazy to me.

[grizzled gull]

I always thought it affect content providers more(netflix, google etc)

[hollow glacier]

They mentioned data caps again too idk

I just expect the future to at least suck as bad as the present

[grizzled gull]

I can see the side of the arugment about making content providers pay for access to end leg though if they are using the majority of teh bandwidth

Comcrap and most cable providers already have data caps, you can pay 30 bucks more a month and get them waved though

I believe spectrum doesn't but that was a merger conditon that's about to expire

[cerulean karma]

Data caps on wired? Like... monthly total usage caps?

[clear ferry]

I still laugh whenever I hear the word data caps, it's just absurd for consumer grade

[grizzled gull]

before they start charging you more, yes

[glacial locust]

I moved my home server to the cloud, which is why I opted for such a high-speed connection. I don’t even notice it’s not at home anymore. Instead of 2.5 Gbps, I now have 2 Gbps access. And since I’ve upgraded the whole house so that every spot has 2.5 Gbps and the Wi-Fi can handle it, I didn’t want the internet to be the bottleneck.

[clear ferry]

Thankfully we haven't had it since 1999, and it only lasted 6 months

[cerulean karma]

It makes 0 sense as they're paying for bandwidth themselves...

[dawn badge]

oh yeah that makes sense, that is probably it

[grizzled gull]

The arugment they make is the majority of the bandwidth is used my a minority of the people(this was true 10 years ago, but with streaming it makes no sense anymroe)

[dawn badge]

its my phone yeah

[cerulean karma]

They don't have minimum speed guarantees anyway, I bet. How my ISP solves it is just... have slow internet in times of high usage. Want a guaranteed min speed? Then you pay 30-50 eur, but it's for guaranteed bandwidth. Not monthly usage. Still,

[grizzled gull]

I will say this though, having traveled globally, while our internet is expensive in the US, our estentials other then that are cheaper, so it works out it still cheaper to live here

[dawn badge]

i think its probably still statistically true but not to the extreme it used to be

[grizzled gull]

Food, energy, housing is all generally cheaper in the US

Tax's are lower, but health care and higher education suck

I gladly pay 60 dollars for internet, but only pay 150 dollars a month to heat my home in Minnesota, or 15 cents a kh/w for electricity

[cerulean karma]

Besides energy, is it really cheaper than let's say Europe?

[grizzled gull]

how much is diesel over there Chris?

oh thats energy

sorry

[cerulean karma]

$1.48/L, IDK in freedom units
Edit: $5.6/us gal

But this is after COVID + war.

$0.17/kWh so 17 cents?

[grizzled gull]

So your diesel is is 531 a gallon here its 3.50

had to do hard maths in google

[cerulean karma]

Buuut, I don't need to use my car to pick up a tic-tac 🙂

[glacial locust]

I could argue with that. I’m sure there are cheaper and more expensive areas in the US, as well as better and worse quality food options. So it’s hard to make direct comparisons.

From a European perspective, my two weeks in America definitely weren’t cheap 😄 I was already shocked by the concept of tipping. 15-18-20%??? What are they talking about, especially at self-service places? And if I tried to find food that didn’t contain ingredients banned in the EU, the prices immediately doubled.

[cerulean karma]

I forgot about the tipping culture!

[static schooner]

you can always just choose not to 🙂

[grizzled gull]

I don't tip unless i get actual serivce, AKA sit down, no coffee shops, no take out etc

[cerulean karma]

And can you eat there a second time after?

[grizzled gull]

Sure why not

[fathom sparrow]

My buddy married someone from italy, She lives in the US and refuses to tip! It's a general problem when we go out. We have to sneak the servers tips

[grizzled gull]

lol

[static schooner]

the old "bills in the handshake" move 🙂

[glacial locust]

What’s expensive in the EU is driving, and very much so! But in exchange, a person can go their entire life without a car here.

[cerulean karma]

I'm only basing my perception of the US on what amounts to memes, so please don't take me too seriously.

[grizzled gull]

I'm sure Europe is similar to the US where the big tourist area's are more expensive

[fathom sparrow]

Oh yeah, we all fat, ride buggies in walmart, and drive lifted trucks

[cerulean karma]

ofc.

[lone dagger]

Especially you.

Just the worst of us.

[fathom sparrow]

I walk in walmart, thank you very much

[grizzled gull]

uhhhhh ummmmm I don't shop at Walmart...

[dawn badge]

burn!

[cerulean karma]

Ok, not quite that kind of memes

[lone dagger]

Nice clarification.

[lone dagger]

Neither do I lol.

[grizzled gull]

I will admit I have a jeep on 38" tires that I use once in a while as a people mover when our family vehicles are unavailable.....

[clear ferry]

And run HA supervised!

[fathom sparrow]

WE ALL HAVE OUR FAULTS

[clear ferry]

Especially you

[cerulean karma]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-gif-3473869

[fathom sparrow]

I'll sit on you

[cerulean karma]

I didn't start this... I didn't start this...

[lone dagger]

Nah this was me.

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-gif-20076210

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-sir-dakota-johnson-gif-1098089140448245433

[grizzled gull]

So, curious question, are HAOS addon's curated? Or is it like running dockers else where where the update just shows up when the repo is updated?

[dawn badge]

ooh err missus

[lone dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/spit-take-drink-laugh-funny-thats-gif-11859512

[cerulean karma]

https://github.com/home-assistant/addons/

[fathom sparrow]

I was thinking fat guy smothering him to death, get your minds out of the gutter

[clear ferry]

I don't kink shame

So come on over daddy

[lone dagger]

Poor petro needs an adult.

Too bad none of us qualify.

[clear ferry]

[cerulean karma]

... This used to be a talk about economics 5 minutes ago.

[clear ferry]

Let me help you bring it back

Reaganomics

[lone dagger]

I’m really good at derailing things.

[cerulean karma]

Do I want to?

[grizzled gull]

Chris did you see the discussion of snow plow names yesterday?

[cerulean karma]

No, I didn't 🤔

[toxic oasis]

As a european , when in the US visiting a Walmart is a must !

[clear ferry]

For the over the counter drugs and 20gal ketchup bottles, yes

[cerulean karma]

Ah, actual names for snow plow vehicles. Like snowy mcplowface

[stuck mortar]

I’m sure all that gold will start trickling down any day now in a veritable shower

[cerulean karma]

No complimentary sidearm at customs?

[toxic oasis]

And I miss the Toys 'r Us from 30 years ago ...

[forest edge]

have you ever went to one of those on black friday?

here is was an absolute nightmare

more so than other stores cause it was packed with parents trying to do xmas shopping and they would get brutal

[toxic oasis]

No , but seeing a toy store with caddies was surprising

The kid in me was very excited ... It must have been a parents hell

[fair pulsar]

Should I be removing the HACS music assistant integration after 2024.12? Is the official integration a complete replacement?

[peak slate]

The real American experience is getting into a fight in a Denny's parking lot at 2am

[peak slate]

Rip toys r Us, but at least fao Schwarz still exists

[grizzled gull]

Nooo Waffle House is where its at!

[fair pulsar]

We still have Toys R Us in Canada!

[toxic oasis]

Grocery shopping at night is quite strange also ...

[shell basalt]

i go grocery shopping in the evening .. 6-7pm

usually less people there

[peak slate]

I'll have to go to one next time I go up north then!

[toxic oasis]

At 2 am there was us buying stuff we didn't have in europe , a cashier , a security guard and a cleaning guy ...

The cashier : why so many chili spice mix ?

[forest edge]

ugh I think USPS lost my apollo xmas tree

this will be the second thing this year!

[rich sphinx]

Well, I can finally start doing my HA on Linux. Ended up using dual network switches (gonna go for a Netgear switch though to replace them), so as a result, having bought an extra Ethernet cable, my Linux box is now Ethernet connected to the network, so hopefully that means I can bridge my internet to HA without breaking everything...

[forest edge]

just tuned into the release party and all I can see is this huge dead pixel.. crazy stuff

[jagged plaza]

Hi!
I am new here, i got HA at Uni and during the course i started liking it a lot. I bought myself a NUC pc and i am installing HA in HAOS now, about to get some integrations in my home

HAOS is a good idea right? I had HA on Docker on my pc, but i run into too many problems wiht BT and forwarding i decidet to have dedicated unit for that, do you guys think i made right choice?

[weak musk]

HAOS is a great way to deploy HA.

[jagged plaza]

🫡

[grizzled gull]

BT and fowarding, were you running Unraid by any chance?

[jagged plaza]

not sure what that means

[grizzled gull]

If you don't know what it is, then you don't 🙂

[jagged plaza]

HA runing ina container in docker coudn't get BT from adapter thats a USB stick

[grizzled gull]

for me pass through a BT dongle via docker I had to install bluez stack

[jagged plaza]

so i got annoyed and i ordered a NUC

[grizzled gull]

in the host machine

and put -v /var/run/dbus:/run/dbus:ro

But you're better off with a NUC 🙂

[jagged plaza]

yeah, too late now

lol

[grizzled gull]

If it makes you feel better, I struggled with passing through my USB zigbee adaptor, I just said screw it and went with a network zigbee controller 🙂

[jagged plaza]

i'll buy zigbee once i have sigbee stuff to connect

so far i only want to integrate lights in my apartment, all my devices, and my own Engineering Project with ESPhome (most hyped)

[primal laurel]

Zigbee is cheap and stable, doesn't take much to get started

[lilac ether]

FWIW, if you use alexa_media_player you might want to hold the upgrade to 2024.12. There is a bug with some python dependency. I had to restore the backup

[lone dagger]

AMP continuing its streak of breaking with updates, I see!

[iron granite]

It is a tradition!

[lone dagger]

[static schooner]

it's afraid of being replaced by VoicePE and can't handle the stress

you'd think it would step up, but it's crumbling under the pressure

[iron granite]

It should more be afraid about its potential core replacement.

[static schooner]

it's a multi-pronged attack

dude can't catch a break

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/im-stressed-sheldon-cooper-panicking-nervous-anxious-gif-16590451

[forest edge]

wonder if the new python version is gonna wreck pyscript

[grizzled gull]

@forest edge there was another update to the third reality bulbs, not sure what it change, but maybe they read the comments here and added what you wanted 😛

[forest edge]

i wish. https://3reality.com/release_note/12388/

[grizzled gull]

doh! well one can hope

on a totally offtopic note, HEVC is dang efficent, I'm converting PBS recordings of Nova from TS (mpeg2) to HEVC(h265) and is 75-80% smaller

@forest edge thats not the most recent update

[forest edge]

what shows in z2m for me

maybe it's just a bug fix since they didn't mention it on the site

[forest edge]

i see the terrors are out early tonight

[halcyon magnet]

My Zigbee coordinator melted down this morning, I am really regretting not having a spare on hand, nothing works 😭

[forest edge]

which one

[halcyon magnet]

It's a POE cc2562p2

Pretty sure the POE board died and took the rest of it with it

[forest edge]

sonoff but you just don't want to say sonoff?

[halcyon magnet]

Not sonoff, one of Tubes. He's been amazing, even though he's out of stock and waiting on parts, he's digging through his parts bin to get me a new one ASAP. Sounds like this is maybe the second failure ever, so nothing wrong with them, just happens.

Big lesson is, it's the only portion of the system that I couldn't swap to something else

I have a backup HA Docker container ready to go on another server, just nothing as far as the coordinator

[forest edge]

actually over the years I read a lot of melt downs in association with poe so that kind of stuff doesn't shock me regardless what device it's on

[halcyon magnet]

Interesting, I've had really good luck with POE, this is the first failure of anything POE

At one time I was even considering powering the rpi via POE

[forest edge]

switches, cameras, iot devices.. you name it.. i've read about how it almost burned a house down lol

even rpi's lmao

[halcyon magnet]

Given a large enough set, it's eventually going to burn a house down, that's for sure

[grizzled gull]

Really Frigate?

[forest edge]

thats nothing

I set all mine to be 75%+

[grizzled gull]

yeah I think I'll need to up that camera

[simple solstice]

Anyone having problem with 2024.12 version?

[forest edge]

nope, still waiting for 2024.12.3/5 to drop

[simple solstice]

I thought it did? I just did and it seems to break it

I'm currently trying to roll back

[red rock]

Haven't seen major issues

So at this point I recommend upgrading and collecting data

[dawn badge]

I am sitting on this update for a couple of days waiting for an AMP update. otherwise other people in the house will be annoyed at me. if only i had some other kind of voice hardware that i could replace it with

[red rock]

A wise man once said

Fuck it we ball

[reef stream]

how do i activate the new dashboard setup/movement of the entities and stuff?

[dawn badge]

just make a new view

its default for new views now i think

[reef stream]

ok

[dawn badge]

i think you can convert old views too now actually but i havent tried it

[peak slate]

Isn't AMP the thing that caused crashes all over the place at one point?

[dawn badge]

its had some issues to be fair

[unborn merlin]

people too can be eaten by birds too; I see no problem here. /s

or you can throw a year sub at frigate+

get your models/usage out of it.. and then keep the models (you can, and even deploy it on multiple servers but not use the full frigate+ integration; have one setup for someones work+home)

and get better detection overall.

and the other labels of course.. though I do wish they integrated to the frontend and automations easier. 🤔

[analog crow]

i see your person, and raise you a dog

[static schooner]

The basic model doesn't know about deer

In general, I've had the best luck with 90% confidence or more

But it might not have helped there

[unborn merlin]

yeah I've got a few from inside a textile warehouse that thought rolls were people.

getting the frigate+ model trained wasn't difficult and now..

[static schooner]

I use 95%+ with the F+ model and my false +/- are completely gone

[unborn merlin]

vast majority of 'person' is 90%+

[static schooner]

I can't remember the last time I got a false detection

[unborn merlin]

really tried to think of a better way to automate an office but just went.. "nah, homeassitant and frigate it is."

controls aisle lights and shit.. turns them off to save electricity as needed.. etc 😄

also converted from bullshit fluorescent to LED's but not quite done with that yet.. still.. damned worth it 😄

[dawn badge]

a workable solution to almost anything these days is AI and a camera. i am not sure how i feel about it

[unborn merlin]

🤷‍♂️

I mean.. I don't consider frigate's useful stuff in the same heap as the AI slop thats out there

it runs locally on a damned 4w board.

that's the difference between useful ML and ai slop to me.

hell, the cameras I used for the warehouse had their own onboard person detection; I just didn't like not having it exposed as it should be to me and all so.. frigate is better overall.

nuts what you can get with cheap chinese SOC's these days.

[crude token]

The technology isn’t slop, it’s the product that is

[unborn merlin]

I mean.. the hallucinations make the technology slop

[crude token]

Hallucinations come from either lack of data or overuse of synthetic + being overly reinforced to always respond

[unborn merlin]

good thing they've already stolen everything on the internet and are actively polluting the place now amirite?

[crude token]

You are barking up the wrong tree basically.

Hate the corpos

Not the tech

[unborn merlin]

good thing the tech can exist without rampant mass theft right?

... wait, no it can't actually? 🤔

[crude token]

It can. I know some folks that introduced a from scratch model to detect cow health for farms worth hundreds of millions

Like I said wrong tree.

Corps did that, a tool is just a tool

[unborn merlin]

and there was no way for existing machine learning to have done that without ai slop?

[crude token]

The very first models were done with completely public domain stuff buddy, you don’t know what you are talking about…

[unborn merlin]

coral TPU has existed since 2019.. chatgpt came out in 2022..

I feel like you don't need generative-ai-bullshit to predict trends.

you need machine learning.

they are two different things.

[crude token]

This is what happens when you get your takes from Twitter and reddit.

[unborn merlin]

don't use either of the cesspools actually, but thanks. 😉

[crude token]

Repeating this one last time: from scratch model to detect cow health, the team took millions of photos of cattle.

Another, shark detection at beaches, from footage from four years of drone patrolling at beaches.

[unborn merlin]

.... and that's not generative ai slop.

Fairly obviously.

[crude token]

Shifting the goalposts.

[unborn merlin]

no, pretty concise line.

[crude token]

I told you earlier the technology is not what makes it slop.

You have shifted them, goodbye, this is like talking to a brick wall that sounds like my father

[unborn merlin]

they're different technologies; at the core.

Good luck with that though.

[glacial knot]

At the core it's all ML on Nana
Though the network designs are diffy

[lucid atlas]

New Frigate version looks pretty sick

https://github.com/blakeblackshear/frigate/discussions/14654

and facial recognition part of 0.16 as well

[haughty girder]

Does anybody know if you can access Wyze's camera motion sensors if you have a home hub integrated into HA?

[clear ferry]

Did someone say AI ?

[solar zealot]

Don't u dare release them from ya basement

[jagged plaza]

Yeah zi fiddled with it at Uni, just i don't have at home anything to integrate with zigbee (YET)

[midnight adder]

i see the AMP plugin is up to it's tricks again

[deft pewter]

Those all feel like discussions for #1284965988642590891 . This one's not a support channel.

[iron granite]

Same procedure as almost every month.

[primal laurel]

It's great fun, highly recommend

[low harness]

Oh Microsoft...
I want to copy a bunch of cells with formulas in excel, without the references changing, tight?
So after discovering there's weirdly no paste option for this, I find the "official" method from the microsoft forums - either copy to notepad and then paste back, or do a search and replace to change all = into #, copy and paste, and then replace back...
So I select the cells I want, open the Find and Replace dialog, and just to make sure I click "Find all" to check that it only finds within my selection. It does. Excel-lent!
Except that's ONLY for Find. When you click Find and Replace in the same dialog box the selection is ignored!

[simple solstice]

Is there like a youtube video on how to use card mod? I am slightly confused on how to make it work. I followed the readme git repository it still doesn't give me a understanding how to use Card Mod for LoveLace.

[clever mortar]

I'm sure people can help if you ask in #1284965988642590891 - though the forum thread is likely to be another good place

[simple solstice]

Thank you. Going to ask there.

[blissful veldt]

is the zigbee network visualisation still a thing in ZHA

[simple gazelle]

I really need to pull the plaster off and make a proper dashboard for myself rather than having the default.

[charred sapphire]

Hey everyone, new here just wanted to pop in and say hello. Working on my smart home a lot at the moment. Just wanted to increase my cool factor by showing off my latest addition (I think my flat has a ventilation issue)

[deft pewter]

Under 1000 seems fine

[twilit venture]

Would this channel be appropriate for off-topic?

[red rock]

Yes

[clever mortar]

Do read the channel topic, as always 😉

[glacial knot]

Finding that on the mobile app is a chore

[clever mortar]

Discord making dubious design decisions ...

[charred sapphire]

this was just as i had started to air the room out, I've closed a window now and it went from 600 to 1100 in like 15 mins, either way if there's no CO2 issue, it's still reaaaaaaally cool to have on my dashboards

[deft pewter]

Yeah, definitely good to monitor it in case it goes too high. And you'll definitely see big swings based on open/closed doors/windows. Jus sayin 1000 is perfectly safe.

They reckon over 1000 starts to make you feel sleepy. A few thousand for headaches. And if you hit tens of thousands... run 😂

[charred sapphire]

yeah my main issue is that i've been waking up recently feeling groggy, headaches, nausea and I ruled out a lot of other potential issues, and it seems to have only started during the winter when I have kept the house sealed up, so I want to monitor it closely. I have some window/door sensors too so I can corrolate it to having them open or closed

30% for my health, 70% for the cool tinkerer factor

[midnight adder]

Tile or Samsung trackers? Haven't had one in hears. Kiddo needs some. He uses Samsung phones and tablets if it matters but whichever is better rn, tile or Samsung or a new alternative if that.

[peak slate]

1000 is pretty high, I feel the effects easily around there

My house normally stays around 400-600 and I like that as a comfort zone

[solar zealot]

The reading will be vastly influenced by a lot of factors about your room and outside air quality

[peak slate]

Brain fog and other problems start around 1000 though, best to fix the problem before it gets higher from there

It also harms sleep quality at that point too, it's a reason people are encouraged to sleep with their bedroom doors open, to allow more circulation and prevent CO2 buildup

[solar zealot]

There is not really a distinct problem that can be fixed about it. You can't really breath less or post install properly efficient outside air systems

[primal laurel]

As a gamer I have learned to maintain higher order brain functions at co2 of 3000

[grizzled gull]

You know this wasn't an issue 50 years ago when houses actually breathed 😛 That being said even our house which is old is now super tight due to weather wrap and new windows, we have to have a fresh air inlet in our utility room otherwise we get back drafts down the fireplace

[weary bone]

Anybody here use Govee products in HA?

[clever mortar]

Lots of people do

I know, because it's been discussed in #1284966582375813201 a few times in the last week alone

[primal laurel]

Mechanical ventilation

[solar zealot]

Holes. It's called holes

[grizzled gull]

The point I was making is the air issues we are having is because of how tight houses are, not how to fix it 🙂

That being said, I laugh when I read about people installing 800 CFM hood vents and then having issues with smell through out the house when air is being pulled own chimenys(both fireplace and/or appliance)

[peak slate]

Lol our brand new house breaths, the furnace/AC have a fresh air vent it uses to mix in outside air to the return from the house

[weary bone]

I'll check there! Thanks!

[grizzled gull]

Steve-O I think the bigger issue is retrofits

[weary bone]

What device do you use to measure that? I have a air gradient device that will throw alerts even when I'm not in my home office.

It's currently at 1027... but i've been in and out,.

[grizzled gull]

I'm very tempted to buy https://shop.ecowitt.com/products/wh46-indoor-7-in-1-air-quality-sensor-ndir-co2-pm1-0-pm2-5-pm4-0-pm10-temperature-humidity-sensor I already have an ecowitt setup

wait not that one

[peak slate]

An air gradient running esphome

I set up an automation to yell at me if it's above 1000

[grizzled gull]

https://shop.ecowitt.com/products/wh45

[weary bone]

I think mine is just running normal? I haven't delved into esp home yet.

[red rock]

I bought Tiles this week

[peak slate]

I got the diy kit for mine too

[red rock]

No clue how that will work though

[midnight adder]

What made u decide

[peak slate]

So I did all it (and added a few more sensors too)

[red rock]

Well now that you put the question here

I actually don't know

lmao

[midnight adder]

Lol fair

[peak slate]

We did notice a distinct difference when the CO2 was over 1000, opened windows and almost immediately felt better

[weary bone]

With regards to using esp home vs the stock firmware? it was more accurate?

[peak slate]

🤷‍♂️ I never ran the stock firmware

I figure they're both reading the sensors the same, unless the stock has some equations it uses to calculate values based off the readings (like aqi) (though I use iaquk hacs integration for aqi)

[solar zealot]

Esphome may do some magic depending on the sensor

[weary bone]

But i think the ESP home firmware is brewed by the same folk?

Is esp home pretty easy to set up? I have a few extra ESP devices sitting around, and I want to build one of those M5Stack weight sensors.

[peak slate]

I think it's pretty easy to use, the only annoying part can be the initial flash, but after that you can get WiFi setup and OTA all the updates afterwards

I use esphome Web from Windows for that initial flash

[midnight adder]

I've never even come close to that value... are you living in a sealed box? 😄

[midnight adder]

esphome-cli ftw!

[frigid panther]

Hello, all. I used to run home assistant a few years ago, then house got hit by a tornado, yada yada. I am just starting a rebuild from scratch, and am trying to "catch up" a little bit with what I used to know about home assistant, but some things have changed and progressed predictably. My first question is, does home assistant have an add on or integration or something which would be either a DNS server or DNS logger? Currently, my home router is serving DNS, but has no logging abilities at all. My goal is to be able to log and examine DNS requests made on my home network so that I can see who/what is going where. Thanks in advance for any guidance.

[peak slate]

A few people in a room for a few hours can do that

[cedar lodge]

@frigid panther Adguard or PiHole i believe are both supported in various ways

[frigid panther]

Thanks, Paradize. I'll look at both. I used to run PiHole, but at the time, it was blocking a lot of things that caused my wife to doubt my networking abilities, lol. So I uninstalled it back then. Maybe it has a "look, don't touch" mode or something.

[clever mortar]

You can use both PiHole and AdGuard without blocking anything

[frigid panther]

Thanks, Tink.

[weary bone]

does esp home need to hace an additional device set up as a hub? or can I just flash the firmware onto the air gradient and set it up like i did with the stock? Also, there's a stock integration, so what advantage does esp home give over the stock fw? you mentiuod OTA updates

[clever mortar]

ESPHome doesn't need a hub, no

[peak slate]

Home assistant just talks to it natively

You do need a Wi-Fi network though for it to work

[peak slate]

I don't think there was an integration when I built my air gradients, or it was through their cloud which was a big no thanks for me, esphome keeps all my data local to my systems

It gave me access to the sensors without any issues and an open source firmware that I controlled rather than someone else controlling

[lucid atlas]

TIL you can click the heading in a graph to make it wider o_O

[crude token]

Pihole isnt a dns server so much as dns ad blocker and does caching + can verify responses. You will want to setup unbound too and hook pihole up to unbound.

[hushed isle]

Wait what?! Thanks I just tried this and I never knew this

[lucid atlas]

Works with yaml editor for dashboard cards as well (although the window is argubly still to small...) and probably other places as well. Maybe the most hidden feature in the UI?

WTH aren't they expanded from the start 🙂

[red rock]

Oh I knew this but never got the use case

I guess I don't open that many graphs

[worthy veldt]

man this automation code issue I am having is really throwing me for the loop and I can't find anything on the google to help with the error

[solar zealot]

coredns my beloved

[twilit venture]

OMG

NOW you tell us

[red rock]

They can tell you again in a moment

[twilit venture]

I deployed history-explorer because I was annoyed with the history feature

Plus it's nicer for aggregation

[clever mortar]

#1284980040940912641 could help

[worthy veldt]

ya I posted in there

[jagged lodge]

silly question: im good to set up zigbee stuff via ethernet before my router/ap comes in, right? connecting my router for the first time wont mess with my IP or home networking in a way that would affect my NUC?

[lavish spear]

to talk about use of integrations (in this case, specifically the amazing acaia one, which i think @indigo mural wrote), are there integration specific channels? not about troubleshooting or installing, just about cool uses for them

[weak musk]

Why does my logitech mouse have an AI now? Like just stop.

[lone dagger]

I think it really depends on the subject, tbh. That's what the other community channels are sometimes used for. 🙂

[primal laurel]

To feed the algorithm

[lavish spear]

fair. ok, well, if anyone else uses the amazing Acaia integration would love to brainstorm on cool uses. i am irrationally excited at tracking the weight/timing of espresso shots, but also working out how to use it effectively 😁

[indigo mural]

Thanks for the praise, I'm glad you like it ☺️. I think such discussions (idea sharing) happen more on the community forums than here on Discord.

[lone dagger]

OOOH coffee fan, okay. Probably #the-kitchen or #home-and-garden - I'd talk about it in either of those myself. :3

[twilit venture]

Not sure what you mean. Are you talking about the regular home networking router? Zigbee is wireless, how would you setup Zigbee via ethernet?

[weak musk]

Will the integration work with the Pearl do you think? I don't remember it being listed but curious if there's a reason why it wouldn't

[weak musk]

Zigbee coordinators can be ethernet

[twilit venture]

Yeah ok, but his questions lead to more questions 🙂

Makes my head hurt a bit

[lone dagger]

The nature of troubleshooting and tech advice.

[indigo mural]

Try it and let me know. It’s not in the docs because I don’t know, but there was a GitHub issue during the beta which sounded like it does

[weak musk]

ah right on!

I'll report back when/if I get to trying it.

[worthy veldt]

can I ask a quick question here

[shell basalt]

no.. only long drawn out questions allowed

[worthy veldt]

i have a file here config/www/tmp/ptz_motion.jpg

[weak musk]

^^this is not going to be a quick question

[worthy veldt]

trying to direct link to it

https://homeassistant.local:8123/local/tmp/ptz_motion.jpg

but can't fine the correct path

[cerulean karma]

Wait... so there's an entire house in here?
Not just a water cooler in the middle of nowhere? 🤯

(I... omitted to explore)

[lone dagger]

There's like an entire community in here!

[cerulean karma]

I feel like I just levelled up and unlocked new areas.

[rich sphinx]

It is no secret: our voice hardware will be revealed on 19 December 2024. Language leaders have already got their hands on the device, and are working extremely hard to polish support for their language.
Oh... interesting... wonder what this will be

[lone dagger]

[rich sphinx]

Is that going to allow some LLM stuff in said hardware I wonder

[dawn badge]

i read that as Polish with a big P for a moment. and was wondering about the challenges of the Polish language

[cerulean karma]

Same.

[lone dagger]

LOL.

[desert cave]

https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/nc75095651/executive whee! 7.0 off the coast near Eureka, CA

[lone dagger]

LLM stuff is already allowed, you just need to install the integrations for them.

[dawn badge]

talking of voice, whilst we are waiting for santa to come... AMP is now fixed for those that use it

[lone dagger]

The hardware doesn't come with anything special in that regard.

[rich sphinx]

But will that hardware be able to do the LLM stuff on its own hardware?

Or will I need external hardware for that still

[lone dagger]

The answer is yes and no.

lmao

[dawn badge]

its an esp32 (i beleive) so lets face it, its not going to be doing anything major

[lone dagger]

Yeah, we have some expectations to manage.

🙂

[rich sphinx]

Hmm, so it sounds like I need to upgrade my 3770K machine to an RTX 4090 🤣

[dawn badge]

the question is, can i replace my families amazon devices without them noticing any different in use?...

[cerulean karma]

There's MicroWakeWord on device, but nothing Large about it. It can manage "I need to start listening now!" all on its own, so highschooler level?

[lone dagger]

I use my llama3.2 model on my Radeon 6700 XT. So if you are using local definitely need to have some decent hardware. If you are using cloud based LLMs, though, you do not need it.

Basically the same as now without the voice hardware.

[rich sphinx]

I'd be using a local LLM. My main desktop has an RTX 3070 in it, but that's my gsaming rig

[lone dagger]

Hahahaha yeah I repurposed my gaming rig.

[rich sphinx]

my 3770K machine has a GTX 760

[lone dagger]

Well, technically my streaming rig, but it was bought from a gaming PC builder.

[rich sphinx]

and my secondary desktop (Ryzen 7 5700G) doesn't have a dGPU

hmm... might look into an AI ASIC as well...

[dawn badge]

i do really should update the gpu in my server to be able to handle messing with llm's but its not high on the wishlist

[lone dagger]

Frenck makes fun of my power consumption doing this.

I do need to optimize that.

[dawn badge]

yeeah thats the side effect i guess

my rack already sits about about 150-160 most of the time

not sure how a big gpu and a llm will effect that

[lone dagger]

I sit at around 67 on idle, so not too bad. But it goes to 212+ when I engage with the llm.

[rich sphinx]

Wonder how much an AI ASIC would cost me

[static schooner]

is that meaningfully different from a GPU?

[dawn badge]

how often do you engage the llm? i assume its only pretty short spikes?

[rich sphinx]

yes but ASIC has a much narrower focus than GPU

[cerulean karma]

Are there any reasonable options for a consumer on this front?

[rich sphinx]

but for the area where the ASIC is designed for, it significantly outperforms a GPU

[rich sphinx]

I'm expecting the ASIC AI to cost me in the region of £100M for a basic one

[lone dagger]

Yeah, very short bursts. Right now, I am still in the process of setting up my notifications with it so it's still only triggered when I am testing things. I don't think the bursts would be too bad on daily use once I finalize things, though...

WE SHALL SEE

[cerulean karma]

Oh. oh... a... bit outside my budget.

[rich sphinx]

thing is, I'm a bit stuck for options is all... so I need a separate device for it

[weak musk]

you expect it to cost 100 million? Am I reading that right?

[rich sphinx]

Yes

An ASIC isn't cheap

[cerulean karma]

I'd say wait a bit more, let the big CPU makers make that investment.
Everyone and their grandma is investing in TPU cores. I have a ~15 TOPS accelerator in my AMD 7840HS, and current/future generations are reaching 50+ TOPS.

[cerulean karma]

That, combined with software efforts of optimizing waste on the models themselves, we'll have something workable and open source soon-ish. 🙂

[lucid atlas]

Not sure why you are being dismissed, I don't think that's the right approach especially towards new users. Seeing it time and time again.

Anyway, if you created the www folder for this instance, you need to restart HA. Have you done it?

The documentation for this can be found here: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/http/#hosting-files

[rich sphinx]

So my 5700G machine could do it? At least as a temporary measure until I can get specialist hardware for it? (Like for streaming I bought myself an ATEM Mini Extreme ISO

[weak musk]

because this isn't a support channel.

[lucid atlas]

So tell him that?

[rich sphinx]

Been told that the GTX 760 with CUDA could do it. Interesting.

[worthy veldt]

i got it working with direct ip and not homeassistatn.local

thanks

[weak musk]

It's been said here ad nauseam and is in the channel description.

[cerulean karma]

I just earlier learned there's a #machine-learning community channel that's more fit for this type of chat, I think there's many nuggets of wisdom in that chat history already said. 😁

[rich sphinx]

DOH. Didn't realise that was a channel either

[lone dagger]

No worries, I didn't help the case.

😅

[lucid atlas]

Especially for new (discord) users it's not easy to spot or know of channel topics. Just easier and a better approach to just send them to the correct channel rather than poking fun. Not blaming you too much, it was just an example of something I've seen time and time again which doesnt fit with the initiative of being beginner friendly and all that. But whatever.

Comes with the forum format I think, that people accidentally end up here.

[cerulean karma]

Basically, blame discord.

[lone dagger]

If you know that this isn't a support channel, instead of helping you could also redirect them. 🙂

[rich sphinx]

Perhaps we could get some chat bot commands we could use?

[lucid atlas]

Go to channel #fdfdsfs to get help!

No bot needed

[cerulean karma]

We need one of those 19x0's black and white infographics explaining how to behave

[lone dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-laptop-fast-homework-apple-gif-5315897

ON IT

[cerulean karma]

Just don't forget to explain the turbo encabulator 🙂

[dawn badge]

when you need version control of your automation you know your probably doing something either very right or very wrong...

[rich sphinx]

I've moved to that channel

But things aren't looking good

[dawn badge]

press the update button already

[weak musk]

or get a bigger monitor 🙂

[lone dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/smol-gif-18164930

[weak musk]

ultrawideeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[keen bridge]

There's no support in this channel. Try #1284966582375813201

[pallid arch]

Sorry. 😦

[crisp oriole]

Lies.

There is mental support

[dawn badge]

or ridicule, it depends on the mood

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-pain-only-makes-me-stronger-the-mitchells-vs-the-machines-the-pain-makes-me-powerful-the-pain-feels-good-mitchells-vs-machines-gif-21431785

[twilit venture]

cries in Xeon

[delicate crow]

I'm new to all of this. The HA Yellow just arrived today, but I haven't been able to find the CM5 8gb Lite or 16gb Lite in stock anywhere.

Is the Orange Pi CM5 (Rockchip), which is more widely available, also an option to use with the HA Yellow? Or are these not interchangeable?

[crisp oriole]

All goes along in #beta -> release. Users complain about hacs on facebook. I see a trent.

[iron granite]

No. Those are not confirmed to be compatible and there is no compatible HAOS image available.

[rich sphinx]

hmm, where's the best place to ask about where to move a certain device to a room? I can't tell if #1284966582375813201 or #1284965988642590891

[rich sphinx]

thanks, I'll look for that after I finish this HA Core Update

[dawn badge]

no worries, to be honest i am not sure where i would have put that question so was easier to just answer it in this case

[rich sphinx]

but this is right now

[dawn badge]

yeah it takes a few minutes

[static schooner]

Looks like proof that there was a gunman on the grassy knoll

[lone dagger]

Probably integrations since the Devices page is in that section. But that was really quickly answered, acceptable.

[rich sphinx]

but yeah, hopefully once I've installed this update, I can get this figured out. Seems Elgato is a bit of a butt. If I can't figure this out, I'll forward it into a thread in #1284966582375813201

[dawn badge]

i should get a drawing tablet at some point instead of just using mspaint 😛

[rich sphinx]

I do plan to get an iPad Air

but yeah, am defo liking Home Assistant. Especially now I'm running it on my Linux box (but it means I have to use WiFi to get online because the Home Assistant has taken the Ethernet connection)

As for how I've been able to do this... double network switch jank... until I can get myself that unmanaged switch

WAIT A MINUTE! I just saw LaMetric Time on there... I might be able to do full Google Assistant integration with it as a result... and control it from the Google Home... Dang

[rich sphinx]

That worked even for the Elgato stuff, you're a star, thanks.

[jagged lodge]

Is anyone good with electrical stuff? I want to try using a standard E26 to E12 candelabra converter in my old ceiling fan fixture that has a t12 bulb. The glass base is only 5cm so standard bulbs won't fit

[delicate crow]

What's a proper channel to discuss buying the Raspberry Pi CM5 for HA Yellow?

[lone dagger]

#1284966353798697001 has a Yellow tag that would probably be best here. 🙂

[grizzled gull]

Does it have a purple tag?

[lone dagger]

People in #the-workshop may actually be able to help out here.

[slow dirge]

Took the back plate off the amcrest and the thermal paste is dried as well as they covered what looks you be the dev port 🤣

The Pogo pins are neat, didn't expect that

[lone dagger]

Cool cool cool cool. https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2025/Anker-Soundcore-Lithium-Ion-Battery-Powered-Bluetooth-Speakers-Recalled-Due-to-Fire-Hazard-Sold-Exclusively-on-Amazon-com-by-Anker-Innovations

[faint wharf]

I tried to make Celeron J3455 process speech-to-text and text-to-speech

to be fair it's very quick and sounds nice with text-to-speech, but speech-to-text... 😄 Either fast and works like this or takes 40 seconds but is reasonably accurate

I'm curious if N100 would handle it better haha, I'm not very keen on spending entire evening on spinning one up and transferring Homeassistant to it to try right now tho

(I was saying "living room light on" by the way)

[cerulean karma]

I'm curious, what's this device do? I tried looking at the manufacturer site, but apparently european rights to privacy are not one of their top concerns.

[slow dirge]

It's a doorbell camera

AD110

https://amcrest.com/2mp-wifi-camera-doorbell-ad110.html

https://a.co/d/1RFMG3q

I don't encourage getting one. I'm already a reolink fan over this junk

[cerulean karma]

Kinda got that from the "Easier to block europe than respect GDPR" shtick 😅

[rich sphinx]

Matter support seems great too

[peak slate]

What's the matter with that? (Sorry in advance I just need to)

[rich sphinx]

will defo test that more

[coarse iris]

hi all. just received a home assistant green (1 week delayed via amazon) today

went thru setup etc, created login and password via my password manager, so I know it is accurate

it auto logged me out after 20 minutes or so, went to log back in, invalid username and password. super pissed off right now

went direct hdmi to monitor, at HA> tried all of the password reset commands etc

invalid commands blah blah

sudo doesn't work either

tried factory reset via power button power cycle several times, nada

any other ideas? or do I really need to go buy an SD card and reader to factory reset this.

[young sigil]

Try posting in the support group #1284966540617449515

[coarse iris]

will do, sorry about that

posted, would really appreciate any help, I about to punch a hole thru some sheetrock

[twilit venture]

try typing your password with caps on

😄

[coarse iris]

damn near tried it all, @dawn badge nailed it

[acoustic cloak]

Can someone explain something pretty dumb im sure. But is homey a device to use with ha or is homey its own ha software? I'm a little confused.

[weak musk]

it's its own HA software

but it also integrates to HA

sort of like smarthings does

[acoustic cloak]

ah ok sweet.

[weak musk]

or apple home

[acoustic cloak]

do you know the differences are between homey and ha?

[weak musk]

no

[solar zealot]

one is ha and the other is homey

[rich sphinx]

ya know, I wish the phones and watches connected via the mobile HA app would show up under the device list in HA

[dawn badge]

they do

[rich sphinx]

omg I had filters enabled, hence couldn't see them

[dawn badge]

you switch on which stuff you want to expose in the app then it appears in the mobile app integration

[rich sphinx]

it's half past midnight, can I use that as an excuse for not noticing that sooner?

[dawn badge]

sure, why not. 😛

[rich sphinx]

I'm dabbling with dashboards atm... wish the "HA managed" dashboards allowed phone battery to be displayed on them but alas... had to create a custom dashboard from scratch for that

[dawn badge]

i use bubble card for battery display

[junior atlas]

anyone here have a kwikset 910 deadbolt?

[dawn badge]

start a thread in #1284966353798697001 and maybe someone jumps in

[weary bone]

very cool. I may just keep mine as is for now. I'm only a year into HA, and not even that, since I've not really messed with it since installing.

--

In other news. What do I need to know about zigbee products. I got a garage door tilt sensor, only for it to click when I was putting it together that I needed something to pair it with....

[rich sphinx]

I feel like the mods are glad we took it to a thread 😄

[solid sphinx]

Are there good Zigbee smoke detectors? Ideally without cloud requirement

[young sigil]

Zigbee devices never require a cloud connection. If you want recommendations post in #1284966353798697001 with the recommendation tag.

[rich epoch]

To whomever fixed/updated the alexa media player integration... Thank you! You are appreciated. 🔥❤️

[coarse horizon]

My Govee bluetooth button that I bought just to control the space heater that I'm still using despite the recall just got discovered in HA, cool.

[ocean oar]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-dangerously-gif-20939086

[haughty girder]

is there a good place to get help with govee and ha implementation?

[balmy latch]

anyone having problem's with Pironman 5? after the new update?

[clever mortar]

Sounds like #1284966582375813201

[untold oriole]

When I setup my HA, 6 months ago, I was lucky because my ISP (Digi Romania) has a free Dynamic DNS.... I just setup let's encrypt and that's it

Also, I pay 8$/month for an 1Gbps fiber internet plan....

[glacial knot]

😦 I wish

[spice birch]

If I install the HA OS on rasp5, can I also run other programs alongside?

[iron granite]

Only HAOS add-ons.

[peak slate]

So jealous

[pearl lagoon]

Where you do live… I pay $80 for a gig fiber…

[hexed spade]

hysteresis...... in the UI Threshold.... where can that be fixed? I did add the Dutch translation just now, but the English baseword is incorrect

[glacial knot]

I pay like 60€ for 1000/50 docsis

[grizzled gull]

I just signed up for 2gbit up and down thats deploying in my area for 89 USD a month

Not sure why.... I think its because 1gbit was only 10 dollar cheaper lol

The biggeer laugh I had was their advertising for the masses, they consider 500mbit a starter package ok for 1 or 2 streams....(as I'm sitting on 120mbit and ble to do multiple 4k streams) and work from home with some good QoS

[simple gazelle]

I pay £36 (~$46/€43) for VDSL (68/22). Annoyingly I was meant to get FTTP but the cabinet and/or conduit was full

[primal laurel]

You're getting scammed, hard. Only 1 provider in your area?

[simple gazelle]

No, but I do really like this provider and they're not much more expensive than the alternatives, I get near line-speed, incredible reliability, a static IP, and a tech-savvy helpdesk.
"Hey my router blew up, what standard does it need?"
"8111.¾ Section Foo"
"Thank"

Only way to go faster is a wireless provider, but I used one when I moved in and it caused me issues with things like my work VPN.

[deft pewter]

Scammed hard? If that's UK prices, that's pretty standard. And it only goes up from there if you want fiber.

[weary bone]

I am also looking for this.. I think someone recommended the integration channel. I'll ask over there and mention you so you can follow.

[primal laurel]

You don't need fiber. You can get 1gbit on copper

[deft pewter]

Sure, FTTP/FTTC. Whatever. It's priced based on the speed, not on the material it passes through. Consumers don't care about that.

[simple gazelle]

Well regardless of the medium no-one's doing anything faster to here according to all the switch and comparison sites.

[primal laurel]

68 is ridiculous at that price

But if that's your only option

[rustic fjord]

hey there. quick one, i tried googling, but to no avail.. is there some way to pass message through translation service? I'd need to get the messages my witty AI generates for me to be in Czech, sadly llama doesn't speak it, so I'd need to pipe it through translation for my better two thirds ..

[iron granite]

#1284966915055288530 might be able to help

[deft pewter]

I've got an upcoming house move and I'm in the same position. Although I'm going 5G because the current owner let us know that the copper connection really sucks at the address. Really hoping someone upgrades the local infrastructure in the next couple of years 🤞

[rustic fjord]

right. I'll ask around there. cheers

[primal laurel]

It requires some political action. When dense areas are upgraded providers should be forced to not leave less dense areas behind

[deft pewter]

It requires nothing from me. The UK government already have in place schemes to pressure providers into action in more rural areas. There are special funds and subsidies allocated to it.

The estate I'll be moving into has a scheme lined up to install fiber. The timescales are just unclear, so I'll get a cheap wireless contract for now.

[simple gazelle]

Heh, I'm in London, it's just this one road is oversubscribed and there's no room in the conduit 😄

[peak slate]

200 down, 5 up, $80 / month, only other "providers" are cell based or satellite based

Annoyingly this is 10 min from downtown of a major metro area

[worthy veldt]

is there any trick to get tts working with sonos speakers? I test the message and hear my currently playing audio mute, but the tts message doesn't play. Not sure if its an issue with google tts or my sonos

[fair edge]

Got reolink video doorbell to play with (and replace non functioning doorbell), hook it up in office, works first try, HA updates firmware, all good. Go to install it and have to replace dead transformer. Should I just install a power outlet in the box instead of a 120vac->16vac transformer, and use the dc power brick over the LV-bell cables?

[iron granite]

#1284966353798697001 might know

[fair edge]

doing the google thing, camera takes ac or dc input, so probably doesn't matter that much

[lone dagger]

It’s been a while since I’ve laughed so hard at marketing images.

“OK. Master”

[fair edge]

insert doctor who meme photo here.....

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-master-yes-anakin-skywalker-kenobi-gif-5288953

[fair edge]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-i-know-right-wink-gif-23043707

[distant jewel]

any particular patch cables for 2.5GB ethernet?

[fathom sparrow]

the patchiest of patch cables

[iron granite]

Isn't less patchicity sufficient?

[dawn badge]

2.5 works on most things. thats one of the reasons why it got popular. it works in buildings already wired in cat5e from years ago

[distant jewel]

so even old Cat 5 will work?

[dawn badge]

5e yes, older 5 might be okay for short patches but might be flakey

[shell basalt]

2.5GBASE-T and 5GBASE-T can be deployed at a cable length of up to 100 m on Cat 5e or better cables

generally you can go about half the length on cat5 .. so 50m or shorter

(but even on cat5e.. if you get up to 2gbps, you're having a good day)

[distant jewel]

what should be used for future proofing?

fibre in ll rooms?

[lone dagger]

Yeah, I would say make sure you have ethernet connection of some kind in all rooms. I believe there are some countries in Europe that actually build new homes like that now, but I could be misremembering.

[unborn merlin]

was gonna say what is this south korea? 🤣

[unborn merlin]

put conduit with pull lines in your walls. 👍

beside that?
STP (shielded twisted pair) CAT6/7 whatever.

I mean you could use multimode fiber stuff.

But then you're becoming LTT and I doubt you're gonna just be given the endpoints for free to convert on each end.. 🙃

[lone dagger]

Psh, everyone gets that, duh.

ALL THE ENDPOINTS

[weak musk]

When I was building my home theater room, I used oversized conduit between the TV and the network/av closet and used paracord as pull cord (which I attached to both ends of the tubes so it could be used forever). It's saved me a few times. If I was building a house I'd run conduit like this to all major rooms in addition to 2 ethernet drops.

[unborn merlin]

but yeah.. if I could go back in time..

Goddamned fucking conduits in every wall.

I know some states require that for wires.. it sounds nice.

[static schooner]

I want cable wormholes

[glacial knot]

just set up for directional wifi links

yea, everything here runs in conduits, but in houses they are often not big enough to just throw in more lines as you'd want

[unborn merlin]

yeah but good proper mesh wifi is built off good backhauls between the points and etc 😄

[glacial knot]

big issue in my parent's place. the interesting conduits are already cramped :/

[unborn merlin]

rip out the tv lines and phone lines. 😛

[weak musk]

that's why you leave the conduit empty when you're building and run hardlines (ethernet+whatever) in parallel to the conduit lines.

[static schooner]

Illinois (or maybe just Chicago) requires metal conduit for electrical, but I don't know if they do for low-voltage. And you don't want to run those together

[glacial knot]

or you just run sewer pipes for conduit

[unborn merlin]

eeeeehh.

big conduits get big expensive real fast 😛

[weak musk]

yeah, definitely keep power and LV stuff away from each other.

we don't require conduit for power here (unless it's outside of the wall) and LV can be run without conduit as long as it has fire rated cable sleaves.

[unborn merlin]

current home was built.. just before ethernet became more.. real and useful

so none of it is there by default.. I could do drops from attic crawl areas but..

ehhh..

annoying. 😄

[static schooner]

My house was built in the late 80s and the first thing I did when I bought it was get a guy in to add Ethernet drops everywhere

the previous owner strung a really long Ethernet cable through holes they punched in the wall between rooms/closets/etc. to get it from their "office" to one of the other bedrooms

and they still had ADSL filters installed on a few of the POTS phone jacks 🙂

[unborn merlin]

yeah our house nhad a bunch of those piss-poor cable-booster things in it too

from when we used cable service

from when we went to verizon the guy had to go through and tear em all out because of how hot the signal comes out of the optical terminal.

[primal laurel]

Three things to fix in old homes. Insulation, wiring and electrical 🤣

[static schooner]

We've identified the cause of global warming

[unborn merlin]

its somewhat amazing the crackhead shit that passed code in the past.

[primal laurel]

Hidden weed farms?

[shell basalt]

thats based on the idea that they had codes and inspections when some homes were built .. a lot of the codes that are enforced today didn't even come around until the 1980s.. stuff like insulation standards

[unborn merlin]

sure they did, I'm sure the queen came by to check every house there. /s

[grizzled gull]

So interesting little bug I discovered with automations(not sure if its still there) if you change an automation, the first time it triggers it uses the same value as it had previously. I was having issues with my thermostat setup being all wonky and thats what I figured out what happening

[tidal bronze]

paracord 👍 oh and plenty of jboxes

[untold oriole]

Romania it is

[alpine atlas]

Is there really no channel on here to just bounce off stupid things we have stupid questions about in HA before we start looking for "support?

[static schooner]

Make a post in the right channel

[crisp oriole]

Finished with my sinterklaas poems. for tomorrow. Always works best when applying pressure.

[umbral fulcrum]

i'm curious if i'm the weirdo on this one..So a shelly relay is like 20 bucks and hue bulbs "depending the type" are like 30 to 50 bucks. am i the only one who likes to use hue instead for light automations? theres something about hearing a "click" that makes it seem like a motion activated switch on a wall vs the seemless hue bulb fading on. really dumb question just sayin

[umbral fulcrum]

have you tried a shop vac?

[lone dagger]

Hahaha I don’t think it’s dumb! The satisfaction of how something sounds is very relatable to me. 😆

I don’t use Hue but I understand how pleasing it can feel.

[ocean oar]

I have to admit, I don't like hearing things click

Smart switches where you hear relays I do not like

[lone dagger]

I have clicky clacky keys on my keyboard, and I do like having the physical sound of the switch happen in my smart plugs. I dunno why. I’d probably find it weird coming from my lights, though…

[young sigil]

Don't use relays for lights use dimmers. That way you can have a fade on/off.

[iron granite]

-# and make sure you use dimmable (LED) bulbs

[young sigil]

We'll have none of that new-age rubbish here. Incandescent only.

[ocean oar]

I too miss having a giant drawer full of replacement light bulbs in nine different shapes for all the bullshit variety of light fittings around the house, and having to change one every week or two

[reef stream]

where do i find amazon plugs on HA? (i have nabu casa, so i am not sure where)

[prime dock]

Doesn't the MagicHome integration work with Amazon plugs? If that's what you mean. https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/flux_led/

[iron granite]

HA Cloud only connects HA devices to Alexa. Not the other way around.

[reef stream]

i see ty

[weary bone]

After much tweaking and asking both chat gpt and claude, I finally got a CO2 level meter I like. 😄

[analog crow]

just checking, you are joking with the number, right?

getting a bit close to danger levels, 280 off

nvm that is in acceptable range, misunderstood the range lol

[plain elbow]

hello, i just found out about home assistant, where can i see some cool home assistant setups to give me some ideas of what can be done with it?

[weak musk]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLERasyubmasVHFLS0ZR4vdg3PVC09hE99&si=ghRGYorxZsI9C9K8

here are some home tours powered by home assistant.

[forest edge]

Had my very first psu die. shit was shocking at first lol

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge

Do you use Starbucks as well?

[forest edge]

sounds like a confession to mass transit man slaughter

[tidal bronze]

At least you got your anesthesia in full now. Lmao

That's how we roll

[forest edge]

they said southren.. were they talking about moving to texas? maybe we should check their news

or did recovering californian mean they moved back to ca?

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge every time I see this it reminds me of you 😅😅

[forest edge]

because it's what you would be like should you ever exit your vehicle in any other state than califronia? lol

[tidal bronze]

Oh boy. I am dying here