#the-water-cooler

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lone dagger
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It’s okay I co-sign on this.

austere anchor
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I’m a software engineer, but I prefer the UI for automations anyway. In large part because I’m not sitting at a computer and using my phone, and also, I hate YAML. I’d rather write Python.

lone dagger
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I can be where the devices are.

glacial knot
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Just write json, it's valid yaml 🙂

tidal bronze
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lol

glacial knot
austere anchor
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Templates are amazing, for how awful they are. 🤣 It’s a good way to shoehorn new capabilities without building a bunch of new constructs, but annoying in that it’s almost Python, but not quite.

glacial knot
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are templates just jinja2 exposed to user? rooThink

tidal bronze
austere anchor
forest edge
austere anchor
primal laurel
glacial knot
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if only HA used some of the "powers" it gains by using a context free definition language

forest edge
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the woman's pixel 9 was already delivered. that was insanely fast since we bought it on friday

tidal bronze
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Lately I've been thinking, it would be wonderful to get a weekly log of all the automations that didn't fire and reasons

forest edge
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gonna see if I can squeeze another few years outn of my pixel 3 lol

forest edge
tidal bronze
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It will be a long list but would like to know. So many little things that were automated years ago and would like to know the hit rate

forest edge
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maybe you could get that google ai to text thing to let you know in a pleasant way

tidal bronze
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I am working on that slowly and carefully. lol

forest edge
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"The dryer automated cutoff time has failed due to poor understanding of home logic, your underwear is now 3 times smaller"

tidal bronze
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LMAO!!!!

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I started tracking pool rpms, energy consumption, human interaction and the ability for automations to recover when interrupted. Things you learn

forest edge
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sounds like a headache lol

tidal bronze
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You mean humans, yep

forest edge
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I currently track stuff now that I don't even bother looking at anymore lol

tidal bronze
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You think you automated 100% then you notice the vac rpm's didn't recover after the pool tech interrupted the cycle. Who said this was easy.

forest edge
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now see to me that seems simple. just turn off the vac when someone gets near. you already stated you use cameras to track people lol

tidal bronze
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Automation to track automations lol

lone dagger
glacial knot
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sounds like a computer with extra steps

lone dagger
# tidal bronze Elaborate.

Uh, I dunno how to explain it better. lol. My front yard isn't visible from my office, I like being there and adjusting them where I can see them instead of going back and forth.

lone dagger
lone dagger
tidal bronze
tidal bronze
lone dagger
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So

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Funny that.

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I am back at my laptop to investigate specifically that.

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My lights in HA are currently showing as purple but they are decidedly not.

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They are definitely a white light right now, and HA isn't seeing that.

ocean oar
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Whether the light is green or purple also doesn't help with the VIBES™ that the lights are collectively giving off

tidal bronze
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So you have issues with states

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@forest edge knowing it's a person is not enough. I am testing turning off person notification based on information about the person. In this case no need to alert me with person notifications if they are gardeners.

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lone dagger
tidal bronze
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How come you don't get states of your lights?

lone dagger
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I've actually been shitposting and not looking in dev tools this whole time.

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/sigh

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I should create a support thread.

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fml

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The state is returning the purple. I dunno wtf is happening here.

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CAN'T MAKE A SCENE FOR MY LIGHTS LIKE THIS.

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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

iron granite
tidal bronze
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Yep power cycle

iron granite
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"turning it of" facepalm

lone dagger
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HA?

hollow glacier
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WLED on the Apollo H-1

lone dagger
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Because. I did power cycle my lights. And they come on in the white color.

iron granite
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You want a default on color?

tidal bronze
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What kind of lights are these?

iron granite
lone dagger
iron granite
fair pulsar
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I know WTH month is not for requesting new integrations but is a fix/feature to an existing integration allowed?

red rock
lone dagger
lone dagger
iron granite
static schooner
lone dagger
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I am so annoyed lol.

weak musk
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are the forums still down?

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Weird. The link to the cookbook works for me, but the link to the WTH stuff from the announcement doesn't

iron granite
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Sometimes they work very slow, sometimes they don't work at all

lone dagger
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Discourse being Discourse.

keen bridge
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Load balancing and CDNs are hard.

forest edge
red rock
lone dagger
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Preparing for dad jokes before you even have the partner.

weak musk
static schooner
lone dagger
tidal bronze
forest edge
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playlist in plex are absolute trash

tidal bronze
weak musk
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That's called picking yourself up by the bootstraps Sonoma

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-# I think

tidal bronze
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Perhaps scenes will work 😆

red rock
weak musk
lone dagger
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Full reset of these stupid lights and even in the Tuya developer portal it's not reflecting the right colors for the scene selection.

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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

static schooner
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Tuya
I think we've identified the problem

weak musk
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tuya doesn't work well? It's so highly recommended here though!

forest edge
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the second you said developer after Tuya I knew whatever it was belonged in the trash

lone dagger
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lmao

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This is exactly why I didn't state the brand earlier

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Now I know it's the devices themselves and not HA. But...I dunno wtf happened.

tidal bronze
forest edge
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some lights can't produce acurate colors for the color selected

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my magic home ones were a little off

tidal bronze
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We would've answered your question long time ago

lone dagger
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It's not even changing the colors in the device logs from Tuya themselves.

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It shows it's changing the scene but then keeps the colors.

forest edge
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maybe it don't speaky rgb'y

lone dagger
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The only recent change was...an app update. eyes_sus

weak musk
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We've updated the app to make you more likely to use Hue

forest edge
grizzled gull
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Missy, did you unpower the light completly? Ive found some of my lights get angry and require a complete power off to behave

weak musk
forest edge
lone dagger
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I guess I should, though.

forest edge
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be easier to just replace the bulb with something decent lol

grizzled gull
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its fine now

forest edge
grizzled gull
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I've only experienced it twice, both times it was because I was screwing around with things

lone dagger
forest edge
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I will say zigbee dosen't like sudden fast changes lol

forest edge
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if these are led path light strings, you could use something that uses wled for example to control them

weak musk
grizzled gull
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Missy its 11 F out here, if I can take a kid to hockey with temp's at 6 you can go outside an unplug a controller 😛

grim path
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I've got an Olimpia Splendid Nexya S4 and want to integrate it with HA. What's the best way? I've found that a Tado AC control could kind of make it smart. The AC uses an IR remote control.

low harness
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Why are powerbanks with built-in charger so vanishingly rare? If I bring a huge powerbank on a trip, I don't want to also have to bring a usb charger for it. I want it to be the charger.

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They already have nearly all of the electronics. Just add 10 mm to the length and slap a C8 socket on there!

ocean oar
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You basically have to step up to the smallest version of a "portable power station" for that.
These for instance are 250Wh (cf 20Ah/3.6V power bank ~= 72Wh), but have a C14 inlet: https://eu.ecoflow.com/products/river-2-portable-power-station

EcoFlow Europe
EcoFlow RIVER 2 Portable Power Station

•256Wh capacity and 300W output. •Provide up to 0.8kWh a day with solar charging. •Fastest Recharge 0-100% in only 60 min. •Safest LFP battery provides 10 years of use. •Lightweight at only 3.5kg. •First power station with a TÜV Rheinland safety certification. •Boost output to 600W and run up to 80% of high-wattage appliances. •4 ways to charge:...

glacial knot
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you mean the power banks that are also wall warts? I hate them

ocean oar
glacial knot
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I think I have 2 of that style. I never use them

ocean oar
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I have a couple of old Xiaomi ones (of the microusb in / usb-a out vintage) which work well enough in a pinch, and then a big chungus (1.25kWh) Ecoflow which can do 2x 100W USB-PD, and 1800W through its inverter

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It's of the "luggable" variety, weighs about 14kg

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TBH if I need a midsize option in future I'd definitely consider the 100W PD adapters to go on my power tool batteries
https://www.dewalt.com/product/dcb094k/20v-maxflexvolt-5-amp-usb-charging-kit

DEWALT
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glacial knot
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I only have the 100Wh/100W-PD variant since I don't want t othink about taking it on a plane

grizzled gull
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I have a couple of power banks for my steam deck, one is approved for flights, the other not so much(to big), but in the US nobody really says anything

static schooner
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the only airport that has ever made any noise about power banks is China, where (years ago, at least) you couldn't carry over 10000mAh

lone dagger
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I kept stealing Franck’s power bank while we were in SF.

grizzled gull
static schooner
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it's one thing to have to toss nail clippers or a tape measure (thanks, India), and another to not be able to carry a big power bank

grizzled gull
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From what I've read it has to do with the amount of lithium present in the battery

primal laurel
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I'm sure it exists

hearty palm
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Question to all i was browing thru the Home assistant community forms and i found a intergration for ha allowing for the controll of redstone ingame thru ha can someone tell me if this is trustworthy

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here is the the link

grizzled gull
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huh?

hearty palm
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yea idk i just randomly found it

grizzled gull
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Why? Just because you can, doesn't mean you should 🙂

low harness
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Could be cool, though.

hearty palm
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do you say that in the term of why it was created or not to dowload it?

hearty palm
grizzled gull
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Fusion, I think its the other way around, its using redstone to control your automations isn't it?

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btw love modded, tempted to start an ATM 10 playthrough

weak musk
hearty palm
grizzled gull
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You can use xnet in a similar manner for that if your mod pack has it(if you're talking only in the game)

hearty palm
hearty palm
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i mean i dont use home assistant only for home automation i use it for other stuff like this

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its convinient to have everything in one place

grizzled gull
# hearty palm its convinient to have everything in one place

I'm confused, when I viewed that video it looks like redstone is replacing the automation built in within HA, or Node-Red, not alerting you that a minecraft device is low on RF and leting HA know to alert you(that being said the video is really short, so hard to know what exactly its capable of),

hearty palm
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Retrieve entity states and output redstone depending on conditions (temperature < 24°C, door sensor = open)
Call services with custom parameters such as brightness and media_content_id in YAML
Create working automations with redstone and without having to enter the game

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from the official mod page

grizzled gull
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Can it do the reverse though, read the restone state from a comparitor and output the status to HA? IE using redstone strength to output when a chest is completely full and send an alert to HA?

hearty palm
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the only sad part is that is not updated to the latest version so i cant even use it the way i want

proper ridge
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is 300 MB for recorder db high? I'm trying to prune disk usage as I have a fairly simple setup but at 32GB I'm running out of space

iron granite
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No, it isn't.

proper ridge
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ok thanks for confirming - guess i'll keep searching for what is eating up my space -is there a "normal" disk size recommended for home assistant?

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i was using 32gb but looks like i'll have to bump it up if this usage is "normal"

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it just keeps growing

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or any easy way to see what is taking up the disk space - 'df -h' at command line did not make miuch sense

iron granite
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32GB is the minimum in the recommendations.

forest edge
dawn badge
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following on from yesterday its seems my (now calibrated) co2 sensor seems to flaten out at about 1650-1700 ppm. so higher than hoped but not critically high i suppose

forest edge
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room needs more airflow

proper ridge
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is it safe to purge the "statistics" table? in my current setup it's 208MB and i'm not sure what purpose of this table is

iron granite
dawn badge
# forest edge room needs more airflow

it does but i am going to struggle to get more standard airflow. i will probably just have an alert to get me to open the door/window for a bit. but its the heat and noise retention vs airflow. i have had some ideas to fix it better but not sure how long at this place so cant/dont want to make big modifications

ocean oar
forest edge
ocean oar
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Yeah

forest edge
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holy crap.. that was a pretty penny

ocean oar
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Certainly weren't cheap. But I have all electric garden tools, as well as power tools

forest edge
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did you get the tire inflator while it was on sale for BF?

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if you got all those 20v's having that would be a no brainer lol

ocean oar
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I managed to avoid spending a cent (on BF in general)

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Which is actually a damn good piece of kit for the $40-50 USD it costs

forest edge
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bleh

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those pocket things blow

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should have picked up one of these

ocean oar
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That is the idea, yes

forest edge
analog crow
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anyone else have that one automation that makes you smile every time it fires? I have one for when I enter home zone, and it gets things set for me, after which sending me a "welcome home ^_^" notification

forest edge
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sounds lonely

analog crow
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not wrong, but after a long day, kids, wife, etc it's nice

red rock
simple solstice
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is it me is the Snapshot enitites broken?

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wait. I think I got it.

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I forgot I had to restart YAML configuration. D'oh

forest edge
verbal olive
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....damn, that IS interesting

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Problem is if you like RGB shit you can't exactly combine that

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that's going in the bookmarks tho

forest edge
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they are meant for power outs lol

verbal olive
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Nono, I know

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but the places I'd most want to light are also places I need RGB lighting

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also, may or may not get to use HA for something interesting, depends on how things shake out

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friend's going to do a DJ set in a suite at a con I'm going to, wanted to set up some lightshow shit for him

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kinda wondering if we can use HA to expand what kinda lights we can hook up and save some money

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researching Art-net and all that, I think it really depends on the latency lol

solar zealot
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There is a DMX over ip addon I heard

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Generally no you won't really save money

verbal olive
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You don't think? Using more off the shelf LED strips or bulbs might be more affordable than DMX-specific stuff

solar zealot
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No because they rarely offer high bandwidth and low latency communication abilities which can be universally controlled

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There may be even more things to consider from the light output being adequate for larger distances/spaces to potential safety hazards caused by such installation

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That is not really protocol specific but generally would differ from what you can get away with at home

verbal olive
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Fair play, appreciate the input

mental briar
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I’m traveling to Frankfurt and Berlin and I wonder if there are any good physical stores to by smart devices? Any recomendations?

hard rapids
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It may have been stated 100's of times, but the Galaxy Tab A9+ really is a great HA dashboard.

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hoary wasp
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is that a giant russet potato sitting on the couch in the background?

solar zealot
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Some hardware stores and general the large tech stores have some smart home stuff but it's mostly just the regular things

hard rapids
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It's now a family heirloom

hoary wasp
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LOL

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I was gonna say, it either looked like a potato or a mcdonalds hashbrown... but edited it before i hit enter...

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i had no clue that was a thing

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i usually say after i'm gone, my newphews will probably just dump all the stuff i have in a bin while frustratingly shaking their heads. "why did he keep this?" as like a bunch of LEDs and ESP32s from failed/never started home projects, kickstarter rewards, and printed t-shirts with pop culture referecnes they don't understand pile into the trash.

That is the type of thing you gotta put in a will. like an evil millionaire. "no one gets a thing unless the pillow is cared for. a trust has been set up to pay a lawyer to check into the pillow's well-being each year"

hard rapids
tidal bronze
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@lone dagger purple lights 👆

lone dagger
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I just want it to follow the scenes it has. WearyFluent

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I am where I've found a 3rd Tuya integration that lets me do things but now the light keeps resetting the scene it should be set to. BlobDead At one point the scene itself saved with the Tuya scene number but used the RGB from the ...light's icon.

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The worst part is that I am still not at a point to post a thread because I haven't tried everything I can find. JoyStroke

untold oriole
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I went to the bathroom before sleep in one night and heard a strong white noise in the hallway.... i thought it was the neighbors vaccumming, At 2 AM? Then i opened the network cupboard (its in the hallway) and guess what was making the noise: my mini pc running home assistant and other things.... i grabbed my phone and started remote desktop, turns out that the HA VM used 50%cpu in the middle of the night?

lone dagger
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That sounds scary.

static schooner
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I'm highly attuned to weird noises like that

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Yesterday, it was a very low rumble that almost sounded like crickets and was the pump that pressurizes my incoming water line for my espresso machine. The water tank was empty

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Every time I walked by the machine I thought 'what the heck is that?'

lone dagger
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Weird being "anything not regularly heard".

forest edge
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as we get older our minds can and will misinterpret common sounds as well. children at the school across the street would often sound like cat meows to me under the right conditions

tidal bronze
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I never hear anything for good 10 hours. Sleep like a baby.

forest edge
tidal bronze
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Hopefully I will never need it. But max now is 12.8k

forest edge
static schooner
tidal bronze
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Frequency response. What else?

forest edge
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the ability to hear isn't the issue lol

halcyon magnet
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I hung the Arduino/WS2811 Christmas lights today, just finished adding a new scene for 2024. We try to do a new one every year, but I'm running out of ideas, anyone else animate Christmas lights and willing to share so I can shamelessly steal ideas from it? This is a single string, nothing too fancy, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlI9g8-K_Zs

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Christmas Lights - 2024

Updated for 2024, Added Tetris.
Runs on an Arduino Uno with a 200 WS2811 LED addressable light string.
Code here: https://gist.github.com/prairiesnpr/f57154f91eb77c512c3f25bca4338ad2

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forest edge
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it's what your brain dechipers what it heard

tidal bronze
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That's not a question. West coast right? Couldn't decipher any better.

forest edge
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wish the front of my house was just a straight run like that lol

halcyon magnet
forest edge
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@tidal bronze"and before this video gets anymore awkward" he then follows with "I love you" man you cali's are weird lmao https://youtu.be/fsZW1xfmdqs?si=0uQFSdO5ZRaQHKrX&t=922

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tidal bronze
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Everything is love and about love.

forest edge
halcyon magnet
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Those are nicer, these were a random ebay purchase several years ago.

forest edge
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yea but same style of lights

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just has that base with bulb

halcyon magnet
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I really need to redo them on an esp or something similar, it gets annoying having to go out in the cold if I want to apply code changes.

forest edge
lone dagger
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I spent all day fighting Tuya lights and finally bent them to my will. Am I real user now????

serene shuttle
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Sickening

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https://youtu.be/qSFNufruSKw?si=yc3RcgSHzNcMDsSa

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atomic hinge
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What do you guys think is the low hanging fruit in terms of cost savings?

serene shuttle
ocean oar
green carbon
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Someone posted something cool on the forums. Can anyone get the play store link to work for them? (not support just genuinely want to know if people can get it to work bc it didn't work for me)
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/android-tv-notifications-tvoverlay/771355/4?u=quincarter

Home Assistant Community
Android TV notifications - TvOverlay

Hi, I wrote an AndroidTV app that can display multiple cameras stream on your AndroidTV, and can pop up a live video stream that can be triggered by HA automation, although I have only tested it on a Google TV with Chromecast so your milage may very, but maybe give it a try: Play Store link Wiki for setting up Configure overlay permission C...

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The idea is pretty awesome tbh. And exactly what i am looking for (based on screenshots and stuff on their wiki)

static schooner
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I guess yes:

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green carbon
# static schooner I guess yes:

You have devices that are compatible? That was my issue. And it didn't exist on my chromecast to download either. Even though i have the one they listed in their wiki 😄

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It says 1+ downloads 😄 i didn't know if it was fake or if it was like a brand new app.

static schooner
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I used an iPhone

green carbon
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facepalm lol

static schooner
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And wasn't logged in

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You weren't specific

green carbon
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I didn't want to ask for support 😄 it was just broad

static schooner
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And the link works 🙂

green carbon
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I guess if anyone tries it, let me know your mileage with it and what deivce you got it on.

forest edge
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interesting although pipup has been pretty solid for me

primal laurel
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@lone dagger where do I put cute doggo pics?

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we need a pets channel

peak slate
# serene shuttle

Back in my day, black Friday used to be an event, these days they just jack up prices the month before so they can have a "70%" sale that's really more like 15%

peak slate
primal laurel
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somebody got a haircut

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lone dagger
frozen fulcrum
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any deals on humidity sensors? zigbee.

lone dagger
jagged lodge
forest edge
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I wonder how much money I could have saved had I paid more attention to that instant coupon check box on amazon lol

umbral fulcrum
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Out of curiosity...any word on a release for the new HA speaker?

lone dagger
umbral fulcrum
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I'm curious about one thing if you can answer..is it a better alternative to the box3 in terms of accuracy. Like is there more mics..guess I'm trying to get details you can't discuss lol

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Yea speaker isn't even what I'd use it for. I'm using sonos currently as the output for my box3

frozen fulcrum
jagged lodge
lone dagger
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You know how it goes in the tech world - a company is really happy with something only to be demolished by say LTT. lul
-# I don't expect that, but it's definitely common.

umbral fulcrum
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Yea but I tend to think the ha crew are more inline with what customers want

glacial locust
forest edge
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wtf is that color!?

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anyone else getting thier voltron on netflix?

glacial knot
frozen fulcrum
glacial locust
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They are cheap and accurate too.

frozen fulcrum
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had two of them, upgraded to an early custom firmware and it ended up bricking..couldn't fix them via otg and soldering.

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just want something that works out of the box natively so i don't have to mess with it again. also the new firmwares on those aren't moddable, iirc. i believe xiaomi changed something on them.

glacial locust
lone dagger
frozen fulcrum
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is anyone aware of any sort of bathroom exhaust fan that can mount easily over a bathroom window and also be smart (or attach to a standard smart AC wall plug)

lone dagger
hot ridge
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I'm about to open a thread in #1284966439702499400 but I wanted to check to make sure I'm not missing anything.

I'm seeing that I get "Waiting for data" pretty frequently recently.

I just got stuck in that state, but when I hit the local IP:port instead of my cloud address, it seems to load perfectly fine.

Seems to happen whenever I do something pretty intensive, like reload an integration with lots of devices / entities.

Anyone experience this before, or is this definitely a new thread territory?

desert cave
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Everything is new thread territory here

primal laurel
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or even worse. Gamersnexus

grizzled gull
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To be fair Gamers Nexus at least does some investigations

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and research and in my mind is an advocate for the consumer(newegg fiasco comes to mind)

primal laurel
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louis rossman too, very much enjoy him exposing big tech. Especially apple lol

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somebody needs to

forest edge
lone dagger
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Do you know how to check roles on Discord? Genuine question, because they do tell you but I am sure that there may be people who don't know how to find where they are.

forest edge
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you can look at someone's profile to see what roles they have but thier role has nothing to do with the color shock lol

solar zealot
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Roles and their colors are applied by their order

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You can configure this on the settings page of the guild

forest edge
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again. nothing to do with the color shock

lone dagger
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Oh well that's been around since before the switch.

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Our language leaders aren't in the community channels as much.

forest edge
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yea i think i seen it once before

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pretty sure I brought up the color then too lol

static schooner
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Used to be the color for nitro booster

forest edge
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no that was red

static schooner
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Maybe still is?

forest edge
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this is something else

static schooner
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I guess that's more maroon

solar zealot
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Seems to work as expected tbh

forest edge
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yea thats not red

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kind of messes with the eyes on the dark theme of discord

static schooner
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It's more red than any other color

solar zealot
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It should probably not be red and neither anything dark

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Those work terrible on certain displays and even worse with glasses

glacial locust
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The server booster rank is usually pink.

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forest edge
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it "use" to be just plain red

solar zealot
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back in the old days...

forest edge
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missy had adjusted that role's new color

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readjusted I think cause I made fun of the first iteration lol

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unless it's still fru fru

static schooner
forest edge
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yea pink

trim ginkgo
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You have probably discussed it here already? But whats about the forum. The performance is really bad, almost unusable

glacial locust
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I wish I were a cat...

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hot ridge
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Yea, the forums seem unhappy atm.

forest edge
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we really need to create a few image memes on this

trim ginkgo
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Probably due to all the WTH 🙂

iron granite
ocean oar
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Be the change you want to see in others! Poop in a box and yell at someone else until they clean it up

static schooner
glacial locust
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Well, who would take care of the cat anyway 😄

lone dagger
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But there are people looking at it right now.

fathom sparrow
iron granite
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Don't shoot innocent aliens at night!

lone dagger
lucid atlas
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Forum having issues? Seems very slow and sluggish

lone dagger
lone dagger
lucid atlas
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Oh 🙂

iron granite
lone dagger
small pebble
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hya all dont know the exact place to ask so will start here :). im looking for a cheap reliable way to have report back if a door is locked or unlocked. dont even need it to be a smart open lock :). is that a crazy question 😄

iron granite
small pebble
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ok cool thx @iron granite !

low harness
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So… I have a 2012 macbook pro which is still chugging along because that’s all they know how to do, but it’s not receiving security updates since a while. OpenCore is becoming cumbersome with the updates. Which distro would be best?

weary cove
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Depends, what are you going to use it for?

lone dagger
weak musk
lone dagger
keen bridge
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The irony is it did show up, and then I tried to vote for it.

lone dagger
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LOL I was able to post right before it shat the bed again.

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I also love the comments talking about the irony.

frozen fulcrum
lone dagger
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Yep, show off your dash in the shameless channel. :3

lone dagger
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Go vote.

hot ridge
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Picked up a new Intel N200 machine to replace my current HA machine (a N95)...

Now I wait for backups...

weak musk
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Let us know if it's 100 better than the n100!

cerulean karma
lone dagger
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RIP

cerulean karma
weak musk
cerulean karma
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I'm sure it'll be fine

lone dagger
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I always sing it that way now.

weak musk
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Is Lastpass advertising another password keeper here? Have they seen their track record?!

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lone dagger
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Look in this day of remote working, writing passwords down on sticky notes is definitely super secure now.

hot ridge
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And restore complete!

primal laurel
red rock
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It would genuinely not surprise me if people forget to remove their post-its

iron granite
hot ridge
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I'm super impressed with how flawless backup/restore has worked for me.

autumn fern
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The forum is overloaded. Is that normal?

red rock
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No, we're looking into it

iron granite
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It is not normal, but known.

weak musk
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^discourse admins

lone dagger
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I'm scared to say that the WTH thread for potato forums is now loading because I bet it won't after I say it is...

hot ridge
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Either that .. or this ..

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primal laurel
lone dagger
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More like ^^^^

primal laurel
hot ridge
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As someone who has dealt with a LOT of incidents over the years .. all I can say is .. #hugops

lone dagger
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I'm just glad that I don't have to do much other than tell others things fell over.

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Oh and shitpost on WTH posts about the forums running on potatoes.

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WAIT

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I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THE POTATO IS FIXED.

red rock
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ZE POTAT HAZ BIN FIXED

lone dagger
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And I am not seeing a lot of issues reloading anymore.

lone dagger
hot ridge
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YAY!

weak musk
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Potato Core i5 installed

primal laurel
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you may resume shitposting.

weak musk
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-# we never stopped

hot ridge
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So I did something incredibly dumb today, I flashed a USB drive with HA OS and then tried to restore my backup .. which of course .. meant I was runnin off the USB stick. Instead of what I meant to do, which was boot my Ubuntu live USB and write the image to the NVMe drive, lol

But I noticed somethign odd, it didn't automatically update when it booted. I ran into issues restoring my backup because it was running an old version of the supervisor. But when I did it correctly, and imaged hte proper disk .. it did update on the first boot and the restore worked without messing with anything.

Is this expected?

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Wondered if I just ran into somethign strange .. or if booting off a live USB of the OS is expected to not do auto updates...

thick solstice
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Looking for some advice/suggestions on wired multiroom audio setups that I can use with Home Assistant... Not sure where to ask?

weak musk
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@thick solstice

hollow glacier
solar zealot
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JA

lone dagger
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Turns out we did kill the forums with WTH.

red rock
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Too much people want potat

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No no lot people get potat

static schooner
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Really? How?

red rock
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Look at potat

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Not big potat

static schooner
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Discourse has to be more scalable than that, right? Where does it run?

solar zealot
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too many people wanting to chime in on the discord update

lone dagger
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There's a bandaid fix for now, I posted in the WTH thread.

green carbon
low harness
lone dagger
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I shared petro's post with the guy who was fixing things and when everything was addressed he told me that the potato was fixed. I love that I get to lean into it. lul

primal laurel
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Potato upgraded. It's a Kartoffel now

iron granite
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GLaDOS is running on a potato, so why shouldn't a forum?

lone dagger
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You found our inspiration. ShinyEeveeAwww_bysifyro

primal laurel
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HA green server farm

forest edge
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@rapid plinthare you able to adjust the temprature on your centralite?

rapid plinth
# forest edge <@144986472464908288>are you able to adjust the temprature on your centralite?

Yeah definitely, though there can be a sizable delay before the change is reflected both on the thermostat's display and on other Hass clients. I've hypothesized that, and I don't know the exact terminology, but that it's not a truly "active" device but instead "sleeps" and wakes up every 10-30sec. Which would explain the long delay and why Hass seems to just roll with it

forest edge
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through z2m I am able to to set the set point but in HA I cannot adjust the climate enity. infact only thing I can do is turn the system from heat to off lol

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it does show current room temp tho

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all in all this thing is turning out to be a turd lol

grizzled gull
grizzled gull
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on a totally unrelated topic, why do kids argue about taking showers, my 8 year is a sweaty crunchy mess after hockey, yet complains I took a shower yesterday!

rapid plinth
rapid plinth
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they can be had cheap on eBay

grizzled gull
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Gotcha, pearls are cheap now too, 30bucks

forest edge
rich nimbus
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Using the media player seek action, is it possible to use a button that has hold/release actions to continuously seek +15sec while the button is held?

zenith frost
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Doing some last last minute shopping.. i want to setup a strip with wled.. Does anyone sell a kit with wled preloaded, case, powersuppy ready to go?

forest edge
weak musk
weak musk
forest edge
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gotta love when the amazon app sends you something interesting that says a deal just for you for cyber monday, open it and it's some outrageous priced thing with a miniscule discount for cyber monday

zenith frost
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I'll settle for a esp32 in a nice box I guess 🙂

forest edge
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I dunno. commercial products are around 16 bucks and are made with esp32 with wled in a very small form factor as is. unless someone just likes soldering and messing with loading firmware a person really isn't saving too much $ going diy anymore

storm crest
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welp didn't give myself enough time to figure out what cyber monday deal I can get for LED strips

forest edge
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there wasn't much of that on sale anyways

storm crest
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thinking of grabbing some of these

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in the next uh... 3 minutes

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unsure if it's good value tho'

forest edge
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aliexpress is cheaper

storm crest
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they deliver to Canada? I've never used it

forest edge
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dont see why they wouldn't

storm crest
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then I'd also need to buy 6 pin controllers

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that are HA local / friendly

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Anyway whatever, these light strips aren't critical so I'll get to it when I can. I just hope this Facebook Marketplace fellow responds so I can pick up and finally try these IKEA/Sonos bookshelf speakers

iron granite
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Goodbye Cyber Monday - Hello Cyber Tuesday 🎉

crisp oriole
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Argg. Can i vent my sinterklaas issue here? A QA vs doctor story.

glacial locust
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In Hungary, the period from November 1 to December 15 was essentially a whole month of sales at one point...
It was a mix of Black Friday, Cyber Month/Week/Day and everything in between 😄
A special law had to be introduced stating that the original price from which the discount is calculated can only be the lowest price from the past 30 days 🙂

simple gazelle
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We have a similar law here, it's something like good must have been on sale at the higher price for at least 28 days before the sale price, and in the majority of stores if you're a chain.

gloomy bolt
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What's the best channel to use for a little HA troubleshooting folks?

crude token
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Though yes I agree the new channel structure is hard to figure out and personally think its a bit stifiling.

dire cobalt
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Anyone uses iOS Shortcuts to control their devices?

clever mortar
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The devices in HA?

static schooner
hot ridge
lone dagger
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thats awesome

static schooner
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cut to video of Missy diving into a pile of gold, Scrooge McDuck style

dire cobalt
crude token
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Hmm

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No donations to things like IA or Blender

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(FoSS software and archiving is how we achieve privacy)

primal laurel
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??

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blender has its own revenue streams

crude token
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As does HA, EFF and practically every org on that list :p

austere anchor
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They donate $1.1M and yet, not good enough apparently…

iron granite
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It is up to the donor to decide, where the money goes to. shksShrug

austere anchor
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Also, I’m pretty sure their mission, with the spread privacy tagline, it support projects that are actively promoting privacy or privacy, focused alternatives to things. That’s why you see open Home foundation and signal in there.

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This reminds me… I get a $1k donation match annually from my company. Time to put that to use!

primal laurel
covert loom
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Don't want to post this in the Beta channel, but for scenes, are there any plans to get tilt cover working in there?

austere anchor
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I’m not seeing a direct line to open code for science and privacy. Sure, it would probably have some impact on privacy down the line, but that’s not the goal for DuckDuckGo as I understand it.

They are a privacy focused alternative to Google, so they are supporting orgs aligned with that. Who knows how they selected recipients? There are probably plenty of worthy organizations that didn’t make the cut, but whining about not supporting “enough” is toxic.

iron granite
primal laurel
covert loom
# iron granite They already do work.

They do but they don't. I can add the entity, adjust its open percentage and save it. But the scene wont work fter that. Get: "Failed to perform the action scene/turn_on. Entity cover.office_blinds does not support this service."

covert loom
iron granite
covert loom
iron granite
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I created a scene for the tilt blinds closed, opened them again and ran the scene. The blinds closed.

covert loom
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Did you do open/closed or by percentage?

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eh doesnt matter, both methods dont work for me

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same error

velvet shale
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How well would an orange pi zero 3 run HA? I am debating to pick one up

fathom sparrow
iron granite
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Template covers do work, SwitchBot Blind Tilt ones directly don't. Strange.

fathom sparrow
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what's the supported_features look like?

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the attribute

iron granite
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240 for SwitchBot, 251 for the template.

desert cave
iron granite
fathom sparrow
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@iron granite does your switchbot support open/close and stop?

iron granite
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I'll try.
-# never used those entities directly

fathom sparrow
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This may be a bug in applying scenes on covers

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or capturing cover states

iron granite
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They open_tilt, close_tilt and stop, but don't open/close

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The template ones uses open/close for the tilt as well

fathom sparrow
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Yeah, your template cover supports open/close/and stop

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where your switchbot does not

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    OPEN = 1
    CLOSE = 2
    SET_POSITION = 4
    STOP = 8
    OPEN_TILT = 16
    CLOSE_TILT = 32
    STOP_TILT = 64
    SET_TILT_POSITION = 128
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1+2+8+16+32+64+128 = 251

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16+32+64+128 = 240

iron granite
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And the scene just understands open/close

fathom sparrow
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not sure what the scene understands

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but it understands something wrong

weak musk
jagged lodge
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home networking day. stuff coming in today: unifi ap, zigbee router, light controller

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very happy yall convinced me to run proxmox. i can get OPNsense running too

covert loom
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ah sorry just saw the rest of the convo.

lone dagger
forest edge
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did they ever make it so that we can assign like template entities to devices yet?

iron granite
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UI template helpers can be assigned

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YAML template entities cannot.

forest edge
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don't think you can make a mqtt helper through ui

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you almost could do a work around but then your boned on any set functionality lol

velvet shale
weak musk
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Rasp Pi 4 is the lowest I'd go, but by the time you add a SSD and SSD adaptor you're better getting a n100 mini pc

forest edge
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rpi3 is the bare minimum imo

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anything with less than 1gig ram is a certian no go

clever mortar
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TBH I'd skip the 3 and go right to the 4 a small form factor PC

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peersonally wouldnt go less then 4gb ram but a rpi4 is probably about the min

forest edge
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they really should have made a lite version

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a mini pc is probably best but if you want easy and min spec then get a green

forest edge
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being able to slap a bare bones on a zero would be awesome

crisp oriole
weak musk
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forest edge
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this is what light duty on an rpi3 looks like.

clear ferry
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forest edge
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thing has been a workhorse

slow dirge
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I scored this the other day for like $70 shipped... I'm thinking about attaching it today, do I have to install an app to get this thing working?

weak musk
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time to put it out to pasture

forest edge
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its going to outlast everything else

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at least it has purpose. i have some 3b+'s in a draw somewhere waiting for a turn to shine again

forest edge
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the only pi's I have now that are not being used for something are my zeros

slow dirge
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https://www.amazon.com/REOLINK-Doorbell-Detection-Storage-Assistant/dp/B0B7S3JSG7

Still on sale with the discount, but not as much as a week ago

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forest edge
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well thats your issue.. pi's are meant to be used in places where you can't just do that or throw in some docker lol

slow dirge
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i just use dell sff pc's... dirt cheap and great systems.. toss in some ssd/nvme and some extra ram, you got docker out the wazoo

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fair point. i use them on occasion but have had less use of them for the most part. got a cm4in my yellow and a cm4 on a pikvvm though

slow dirge
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only shows 12 containers in the list, but there's 36 containers running

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weak musk
forest edge
desert cave
forest edge
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I would have more if they made a lite version of ha

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the new ui in opnsense is weird

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not as much as a fan over the previous

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i am a fan of and currently use opnsence but have used pfsence in the past

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forest edge
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could probably remove much of the ui if not all of it

clever mortar
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Just install an ancient version, something before 0.70, those needed less RAM 😛

forest edge
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don't even want to think of the headaches that might be lol

iron granite
crisp oriole
iron granite
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There have been some 1.0 beta versions.

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1.0.0b0-b6

velvet shale
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velvet shale
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nope

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the yellow has a cm4 but the green is a rockchip soc

velvet shale
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Also can I run anything else on it like a file server or adblock

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"Green has a low power consumption: under heavy load, it uses ~3 W, 1.7 W when idle."

from the documentation

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you could run them as addons and as long as your not smashing it i imagine it would be fine

velvet shale
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Ya it's for only a few users

primal laurel
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green is a neat little device, runs much faster than you would expect. I'm very happy with it

velvet shale
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And I can get it ordered to anywhere in the world?

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i dont see why not

iron granite
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There are exceptions.

dawn badge
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who did you put sanctions on @iron granite ?

iron granite
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I doubt someone would offer deliveries to North Korea for example.

primal laurel
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yeah i imagine not, but in general beetween the resellers i imagine you could get it shipped almost anywhere

iron granite
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Legal sanctions, high import fees or delivery costs might be a deal breaker for some countries.

primal laurel
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thanks to all the trade wars its no longer economoical to ship from anywhere to everywhere

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as always, money talks. if you were determined and had lots of money you could probably get one delivered to the moon 😛

glacial locust
#

At times like this, I’m glad to be European. Though it’s a bit strange because a package from the US or China takes 5-9 days, and it’s the same within the EU if I’m not ordering from a neighboring country.

last cedar
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although, as much as i like home assistant i am not sure i would like it to control the air lock on a moon base...

forest edge
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just set it's default state to closed

last cedar
dawn badge
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an airlock is always closed (at least half of it is anyway)

crisp oriole
solar zealot
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iron granite
last cedar
solar zealot
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Yes

glacial locust
last cedar
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Pessimistic would be half closed

solar zealot
lone dagger
dawn badge
solar zealot
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Why would they lock the air, it's not guilty of the crimes presented in this court

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last cedar
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anyone ever tried to get HA running on "Red Star OS"?

glacial locust
solar zealot
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Not capitalism software would probably run fine on communism os

iron granite
solar zealot
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I mean that's what open source is for

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Nothing to loose but the license chains

crisp oriole
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iron granite
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Kubuntu based, yes.

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Likely not very up-to-date

lone dagger
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Gotta get Miley Cyrus in on supporting that.

solar zealot
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Two devs make the features in half the time right???

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in the same way 2 musicians play a song in half the time of 1 😛

iron granite
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One starting at the beginning, one starting at the and and meeting in the middle.

dawn badge
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if a song is played backwards is it still the same song?

solar zealot
solar zealot
static schooner
ocean oar
#

YVAN EHT NIOJ

lone dagger
velvet shale
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if i wanted to try and make my own home assistant green, what would be the closest possible hardware should i be looking at? raspberry pi 4? or what?

lone dagger
ocean oar
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AYUT EHT YUB

lone dagger
static schooner
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Is that what was happening with the hissing HA Yellow?

velvet shale
lone dagger
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I'd personally suggest going with the 4GB even with it being an older model.

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Others may have differing opinions, though.

velvet shale
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the reason i brought up the rpi5 2gb is because i heard its newer than the other rpi5 and its more power efficient

ocean oar
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I definitely wouldn't do less than 4GB, and I don't even have that much stuff in my HA install

lone dagger
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Totally possible that in general it's better, but with HA I'd also say 4GB is gonna be better.

rich sphinx
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Would it still be #1284966353798697001 for enquiries about Thread enabled smart lights (even if not necessarily for HA)?

lone dagger
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Also, a 4 shouldn't be taking up too much power.

lone dagger
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Thread tag in there. 🙂

rich sphinx
velvet shale
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I am not sure but part of me feels that it would be bad to buy a rpi4 when the rpi5 is out 😄

lone dagger
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That's the consumer in you. lul

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BUY THE NEW THING.

rich sphinx
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I'm also starting to work through replacing my Razer gear (but the Naga Pro + Tartarus Pro will be difficult ones to figure out replacements for, especially the Tartarus Pro with its analogue switches, though interchangeable sideplates for the Naga Pro won't make things easy either)

velvet shale
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it is!

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but i do believe the rpi5 is much more power than the rpi4 as well though

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what do you all think of the orange pi? i see them being much cheaper and more powerful

glacial locust
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The advantage of the 5 is that it will become obsolete one step later.

lone dagger
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Looking at that, I'd say only get the 5 if you plan on going hard, but still 4GB.

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Some people buy Pi 2s and run this stuff still.

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So, if money isn't an object, get the Pi 5.

velvet shale
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I use to own like 5 rpi3 but i sold them all several years ago

glacial locust
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I’m more of a micro PC fan 🙂 An RPI fully equipped costs about the same as a refurbished PC. The power consumption can be great, and it’s much more durable over time.

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yeah by the time you add a ssd hat you may as well get a mini pc

velvet shale
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I am running HA right now off a n100 with docker but i was thinking to get ha seperate from this machine and onto a seperate lower power devices that i would leave on 24/7

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I got a couple other minipc that i thought to run on , they are intel nuc but i tested their idle watts and they sit at 6w.. i saw that a lot of these devices could run much lower than that

dawn badge
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your banging against power consumption vs performance here you gotta pick a side

weak musk
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Or just go all out on performance and build a dedicated solar setup for all of your computing needs.

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I mean, who hasn't built a sustainable power plant to run HA with?

velvet shale
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lol

rich sphinx
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urgh... ffs... trying to find information about if a specific product supports Matter and it's... not easy (parents already have them, but trying to see if they support Matter so I can bridge them all together)

glacial locust
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I have a Dell Optiplex 5050 Micro (Core i5 7500T), it cost €120 with an SSD (256 GB) and RAM (2x4 GB). It consumes 8-9W in idle mode.

lone dagger
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Plebs.

weak musk
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Exactly.

lone dagger
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she says as she has her gaming PC hosting her ollama instance so that she has fast responses from a local LLM instead of relying on cloud LLMs

crisp oriole
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Looking jealousy to everyone with a local LLM with video card. My call screening voicemail runs with out

rich sphinx
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my "big" server only has a 1650 super, if i tried to run an llm on that i think it would cry. might upgrade it if i can get a cheap 2nd hand card during the next generation upgrade when it comes along early next year

velvet shale
lone dagger
glacial locust
lone dagger
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It's actually a streaming PC so its GPU isn't as good as the CPU - but that's fine in my case.

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I don't think I can run more than one on this device, though...pretty up there with RAM usage already.

slow dirge
# last cedar For the wifi one, most probably. With the poe one, it gets an address via dhcp i...

As a follow up for others that might have questions (keywords: Reolink wifi doorbell camera app), here's some info I found:

  1. Don't tighten the plate down too much, it flexes easily and the doorbell won't mount
  2. You do need the app for wifi, but an account isn't needed so you can set it up easily
  3. If you have a chime already, it will not be triggered and you must use the included outlet unit
    4a) RTSP info/url - https://support.reolink.com/hc/en-us/articles/900000630706-Introduction-to-RTSP/
    4b) RTMP info/url - https://support.reolink.com/hc/en-us/articles/23528840063769-Introduction-to-Real-Time-Messaging-Protocol-RTMP/
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This article shares some basic knowledge about RTSP and the format of RTSP URL. 
Applies to: Which Reolink Products Support C...

Introduction to Real-Time Messaging Protocol (RTMP)

Explore viewing Reolink cameras through 3rd party software via RTMP protocol, delving into how to configure RTMP URLs for ach...

last cedar
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Thanks for the info 🙂

slow dirge
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Hmm.. I can't seem to connect via RTSP/RTMP though... It's enabled per the UI both on the app and in the HTTPS server (which is working fine)... but yeah... can't connect via what the docs say

desert cave
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BTW for Reolink devices, you don't need a mobile app to connect to them. They also have desktop apps you can use for the setup, too :D

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So I'm finally getting started with automations and it seems by default the dropdown only shows specific devices, not rooms/groups/helpers? How do I select a whole group of lights to control?

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I just used the windows app to set up all my POE cameras. It made it a lot easier to dig through settings

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maybe the app isn't refreshing the list

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nope, no 'kitchen lights' listed

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there's the light control option instead of devices but it only provides on/off/toggle, no brightness etc?

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maybe I should be editing yaml directly Thonk

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I'll search there thanks

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if I've had an open issue for a long time and there's no input, is it approprate to add a git hub issue on the integration (core)?

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because... I did

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Hi, are there any good books or extensive guides on Home Assistant out there? I saw this book Home Assistant: Das umfassende Handbuch(Home Assistant: The Complete Handbook) but I unfortunately can't read German. That's kind of what I'm looking for though

rich sphinx
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well... found a new potential switch for £150

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from UniFi... 16 ethernet ports of which 8 are PoE

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rich sphinx
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Mainly something that'll work with the Hue Bridge and has PoE (8 ports minimum). But I feel 16 ports would give me a lot of room to maneuver.

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I'd plug my ATEM, HyperDeck, and both PCs (in the Enthoo case) in non-PoE ports. Pi 3B would probably be modified to use PoE and would use a PoE port, Hue Bridge would also be modified to do so.

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poe+ vs poe++
1gbe vs 2.5gbe
sfp or no sfp
lots of variables when it comes to switches 😛

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PoE type doesn't matter really... don't see myself needing more than 15.4 watts per port. 1GBE is fine. SFP not needed. The UniFi is PoE+ (so up to 30 watts per port, with a total supply across all ports of 45W)

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ubiquiti stuff is awesome but you pay for the awesomeness

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ehhh its not THAT awesome .. but i am fond of ubiquiti for the home gamer that wants a bit more than the regular SOHO networking gear

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wait.. you're telling me this damn reolink doorbell will let you have an auto-reply voice message, but you can't change the noise it makes when someone rings it!??!?!

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i have a tp link TL-SG1016PE in my rack at the moment. i am looking to replace it soon but only because i want to have a 2.5 poe switch. if you want something a bit cheaper then i can recommend that

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well no one except me has access to my doorbell, so i'm not too worried abou tit

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yeah its not the doorbell i am worried about. some delivery driver decides they heard something they didnt and boom amazon account goes boom (substitute amazon with xyz as required)

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also automated messages saying "i'm not here" tell people your not there. you can see them breaking in on the camera but they are still breaking in

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maybe i am just paranoid though

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well, that actually started an FTC investigation into Amazon that causted them to pay out 5.8 million, so they can shut my account down if they want the smoke

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anyway, i'm just frustrated you can't change the chime sound on the unit, but you can have it say things automatically if you don't answer... what kinda bass ackwards feature set is that?

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it has the outlet chime, but that sounds like a grandma's doorbell more than anything, and lets you change it but they all suck

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can you silence the chime and put your own sound in the "auto responce"?

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well the auto response has a timeout

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so it wouldn't be on button press

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could put up your own speaker and use HA to play whatever you want on button press

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also, I don't think the Nest Doorbell lets you change the responses or the chime sound...

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i use an esp32 to activate an old chime on bell press from ring bell through HA

slow dirge
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the amcrest i had did, although they were also cheesy they were better than the reolink chime companion outlet thingy... i currently have it set to gas station sound

rich sphinx
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Makes me wonder if I could make it so if the Nest Doorbell rings, I get a phone call 😅

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the app doesn't do that already? the amcrest and the reolink do that

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it's not a "phone call" persay, but it does pull up a answer/hangup interface with a preview, and then you just can talk, listen, and watch as you wish

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I get a notification with a video preview (no sound), have to go into the app to reply

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they even released holiday sounds for it

slow dirge
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i'm on latest firmware and don't see any of those... but, it's just weird you can't do it on the unit itself

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you do change it on the unit I believe, not through the ui

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santa is coming!

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the chime sound, you change it by the button on the unit I believe

slow dirge
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Are you talking about the plug in chime?

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It let's me configure these in the app

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yes, it should have 3 buttons on it. one changes the chime and the other two are for volume

slow dirge
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What's the point if I can do it in the app?

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oh wait. you may have the V2 one

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I forgot the released a second iteration that allows some of that to be changed through the app

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afaik there's only one wifi model

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anyway, the complaint is the main unit that the person presses - you can't configure that sound... just on or silent

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they released a V2 of the chime unit

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not in HA currently

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how? i only have the switch to enable/disable

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oh the ding dong

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thought you were talking about the reply thing

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you could disable the chime and just use whatever sound you wanted for the reply

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on auto mode it triggers with each press

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they released halloween sounds for that just this year

slow dirge
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it has a 2s delay for it though

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kinda weird 😅

forest edge
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we were suppose to get a 4k variant of the doorbell this year

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maybe they will add some more functionality to that when it does

slow dirge
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eh this was cheap and the amcrest disentigrated

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garbage

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and not to mention that was like the 4th one because the firmware kept bricking itself... and i don't mean like an update.. it would just... die...

forest edge
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I turned the ir lights off my ad210 or whatever it was off

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mine never activated anyway cuz of a street light

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this is completely off topic but.. im thinking of getting in to unifi as i hear a lot of HA users are in to it. I was curious and this is probably a dumb question. the unifi u6+ is poe that connects to the unifi poe switch..does this also give the u6+ a wired backhaul or is that still wireless?

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I found my first HA bug yay

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ubiquiti 🤢

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Added 'Samsung Smart TV' integration and the TV had the default name that included a doublequote (55" The Frame) and a bunch of stuff is breaking because of it, I can't rename it even

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i'm guessing lol.. its powered by the switch but i was just curious

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Once I get back to helping manage this building I'll be recommending an upgrade to UI's NVR, maybe upgrade a few cameras

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poe doesnt replace the data lines. it runs on top of them

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well im thinking of going to it from tplink x4300 pro. im having drop outs with it and after resets etc im just getting tired of it. plus mdns isnt working properly

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ah i didn't pick up the question was about if it was power or power + data

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unifi is alien to me. never had any of those products before

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unifi keeps doing things right, they keep adding requested features

slow dirge
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PD -> PSE (power delivery -> power sourcing equipment)

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i am very happy with my u6-pro. and if i had to buy an AP now i would look at that or even the u7-pro

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it's part of POE standard, it has to do both

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yea i suspected it did.. like i said dumb question but it's just me being paranoid

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I just hope they come up with a better intercom for buildings

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better to ask for the peace of mind

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ive only got a total of like 55 connected devices so didnt want to break the bank with the pro

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I think unifi people rave about unifi to others so they can feel better about themselves suckering someone else to fall down that crap hole lol

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i'm guessing..you don't like unifi

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lol, to be fair i only have an AP. their switches look nice but they cost too much i think

slow dirge
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unifi is like the apple of networking

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otherwise save your money, and build a small switch yourself out of old office equipment

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tplink must be the motorola then. because i'm hating it more everyday

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tplink is low tier

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but so far some of thier switches have been decent

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i just hate the lack of options

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not to mention their app spams me all the time

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my current wishlist includes a tplink - TL-SG3428XPP-M2 but i caant justify the £600 atm

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i'm trying to avoid a server rack etc etc lol.

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but the more shit i add the more it's starting to weigh

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ibeacon tracker keeps tracking random nearby beacons lol

forest edge
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stick it in a closet

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a rack makes sense in the end because you can keep all your stuff neatly together instead of all about the place

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any new stuff goes straight in and you have power and network right there ready to attach

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depends how big you plan to go in the future mind

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yea..makes sense except for the fact i didn't have that in mind when i ran the ethernet cables in the attic. trying to give myself an excuse to not go up there again and redo it

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you think 2 u6+ would cover 1800sqft?

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do you people just fish wires to the cieling or wall just hang those?

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studs n sheetrock

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fishing ethernet for me is a pain because i have pearl lines in the exterior walls. unfortunately im good with sheetrock

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I go a bit beyond smug_shibe

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if i can't fish it, it ain't happening.. i can't bring myself to have wires exposed like that

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although that's just for the art displays

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thats my thing i never think that far ahead lol. when i was running ethernet i didnt have HA yet...so yea

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understairs cupbaord doubles as server room so it goes onto the wall with the ont

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anyone use the orbi gear?

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or is that heresy

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i think overall im just done with mesh setups. they are nice for average use but seem problematic for anything more

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stop dumping iot stuff onto your wifi

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it eventually impacts noticeable performance

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to be fair i dont have any devices i would consider high throughput that are on wifi

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lol well that makes all the diffrence @dawn badge

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yeah and having a decent AP

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Gosh the Aqara FP2 presence detector is so good

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It just works once configured in app

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Cant wait to permanently mounted it

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Then it depends entirely on the type of button and how it interfaces with HA

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Zigbee, zwave, some WiFi thing, ESPHome, etc

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wifi button? 😨

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The only things allowed on my wifi are stuff that a) needs the bandwidth, and b) moves around. Laptops, phones, the occasional portable game system. Anything else, either it gets a cord or I go out and hunt down a Zigbee equivalent

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omg. I just figured out a REALLY annoying issue! Story Time! 😁

I have automations that change lights on motion. I usually have the automation do a scene create with the light group before I make a change so I can restore it back to its original state after the motion finishes. Seems like a simple thing ¯_(ツ)_/¯

But.. I noticed that when some motion automations would run, the scene restore would work but the color was .. off (like more orange or more blue than expected). Since it was more or less working, I ignored it till tonight.

This morning I activated a new dusk light scene for xmas. It sets my west driveway light to green and the right driveway light to red. And tonight, when my automation detected motion in the driveway, my lights went to bright %100 and "daylight" color as the automation instructs. BUT THEN.. instead of the lights going back to xmas red/green, they BOTH went to a light blue color! WTF?!

So, it seems that if you scene:create a light GROUP entity, then when it restores the scene, it sets the color to be roughly the "average" of the light colors in the group! So in my case one bulb red, one bulb green means both bulbs restored to blue! 🤯

SO, I changed the scene create to include EACH LIGHT entity in the group, instead of the single group entity, and NOW it restores the lights to their individual colors! I'm now revisiting all my scene creates and changing out the group entity for the individual member entities to fix this. 🤦‍ Oh well, at least I solved a mystery! 😁😂🤣

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a win is a win

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I wonder if I should submit this one in the "WTH" thing this month 🤔

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TBH the "fix" I am doing is really a work aorund. It makes it so I have to hunt entity group members down in automations if I change them..

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e.g. if I replace a bulb in the "driveway" light group, then I would have to go remove/replace that single bulb in every scene:create 😦

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I just use automations to do a similar thing

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the turn on and then switch colors

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light groups averaging seems like an intended behavior

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well mine turns on from frigate seeing a person and then waits 5 minutes and turns it off again

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Light group averaging means that if I have 4 bulbs that are set to red, green, blue, yellow, and I snapshot that group, when I restore it it does not restore it to the state of the snapshot. seems like it fails..?

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putting things in a group together usually means that you want them to be the same thing

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I mean, we have RGB bulbs for the specific purpose of making color palettes.. haviong a snapshot restore decide to just paint all bulbs with one color brush is weird.

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individual lights in a scene is the correct way to go about it

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I mean, yes, snapshoting each bulb does work- but it makes the "group" non-functional for snapshots.. its weird.

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I mean, if I am a waiter, and customer 1 orders a large beer, and customer 2 orders a small beer, and then I return later and hand each of them a medium beer- I don't think they would be happy 😁😂🤣

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well the 2 small beer would be happy

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the large beer not so much

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i may be wrong but from what i understand a group is specifically for making things the same. if you don't want them to be the same then don't use a group (i dont want to come across as harsh but i think your using the wrong tool for the job)

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I mean, if I snapshot a group, the members should be returned to the state of the snapshot.. not averaged together... its just weird..

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on/off would work because you cant average that. but as soon as you mess with brightness/colour it will try to average those numbers to make everything in the group the same

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I have a lot of lights with multiple bulbs in them... like Dining room Light has 3 bulbs, so I shouldn't make a dining room light group.. instead I should make all my automations call out individual members as the "right" way to do that? I mean.. my kitchen island has 5 bulbs and the back patio has four... in all these cases I should instead be calling each individual bulb in each automation?

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group

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but maybe ditch the scene part

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scenes are weird

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the idea is that if there is motion in the driveway, I turn the lights on high and bright for security.. but then they need to return to the previous state. The previous state depends on time of day and/or color palette

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the scene:create was supposed to allow the automation to return the lights to whatever light/color/brightness they were before the scene engaged

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dont dynamically create scene. just have 2. 1 for normal and 1 for driveway motion and use an automation to switch between them.

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or do you change your "normal" setting on the regular?

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I would still ditch the scene

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I have a lot more than just 2 though... after sunset and before 10 pm they are certain bright/color.. after 10pm they go more orange and dimmer.. at mightnight they go to a nightlight till sunrise.. also if there is a football game, I change to the team colors.. if its hallloween its ornage and green, if its in December its green/red... so having the automation know what the light was before it ran is very difficult.. the scene:create seemd like the right approach but the group restore is NOT restoring to what it was which seems like a failure.. its not called "Light Group Average" - it seems like it should restore the entities in the group to each ones previous state.

forest edge
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learn how to make advanced scripts lol

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also, my wife likes to play with color palettes in the living room. she makes lights look like this:

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yeah i think your fundamentally misunderstand the point of a group. it means "i want to group these things together because i want them to be the same"

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or similar... if I snapshot that room, I would expect it to return to those colors.. not jsut smear the room one color based on an average of the lights in the scene

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so I am back to how do you group large numbers of RGB lights like as shown in the picture above?

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wait, your trying to make each of the bulbs in the same fixture be a diffrent color while calling forth a helper group that combines them?

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you could use a scene for that if you wanted but you have to individually put the bulbs into that scene because you want them to be different

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That’s what I do.

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# forest edge wait, your trying to make each of the bulbs in the same fixture be a diffrent co...

I have a group of lights that individual entities are different colors. if you scene:create with the group entity, then restore that scene, it just sets all the individual bulbs to one color that was created by averaging all the different colors together. SO if you have agroup of two RGB bulbs, one is set to full red, one is set to full green, then you scene:"create that group, and resture it, both bulbs turn BLUE.

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Tedious but works the best.

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Is that just a lightbulb hanging from a wire?

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Oh so it's ai generated

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-# I think it’s just an example image…I was right. 😂

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Lol

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lights that are in a group are basically smushed as a single light in essence

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I can see that it is doing that, but again it seems like itas not the right way to implement this. If I have 5 lights in a group, and I scene:create, those 5 lights should be restored to what they were pre-snapshot.

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Nope

forest edge
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not the way it works

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i am going to leave it here, you have been told your doing it wrong and won't accept it.

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for example, if I have a wall sconce with one bulb pointed UP and one pointed DOWN and I have the up bulb at 50% and the down bulb at %100 so the path is lighted better than the ceiling, if I scene:create and restore it then both bulbs would be set to 75% which is NOT restoring its state

weak musk
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We get what you’re saying. It’s not correct.

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in that situation you don't group the lights. you just scene capture each enity and call forth the scene

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the scene itself in a way "groups" the enities in it

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I hate scenes.. have i mentioned that yet?

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1000x easier to just make a script that involkes the light turn_on to each enity/group seperatly

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The point I making is this-
If you were writing a program and you had an array of variables called "Group" and in variable Group(1) you stored a value "1" and in Group(2) you stored a value 100, and then you read back the value for Group(1) and it was 50, you would think the program was broken. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Pst

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It’s WTH month.

forest edge
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no

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No, you’d read the documentation of both the group and the scene features and realize “I didn’t understand this”

forest edge
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groups are working as they should

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go mess with something else

lone dagger
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Scenes are difficult, but once you know how to use them they’re fine.

forest edge
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introduce your new variations of groups known as blobs

lone dagger
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I only fucked up twice.

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groups in hue and groups in tp-link and groups in amazon echo all restore the member states.. this is the first system I've encountered that works like this. its so weird..

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thats cause how they are grouped is done diffrently

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Tbf we have shit namings.

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It’s a lot of THIS MAKES SENSE I GUESS.

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😁😂🤣

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But they do.

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lone dagger
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Long time users don’t understand our pain, @ember heart.

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Snashot scene of RED bulb and GREEN blub
Restore scene: Blue bulb!
wtf??

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HAOS: "working as designed"

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🤦‍

forest edge
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now see that's out of context

weak musk
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Because you’re controlling them as one bulb in your example

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when you snap shot a group it's not a red bulb and a green bulb.. it's one bulb

lone dagger
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Because holy shit it’s annoying.

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I fucked up 2 scenes creating them. JoyStroke

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BUT NOW THEY’RE ALL FIXED

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