the-water-cooler

[forest edge]

there's always one oddball in every group

[rapid plinth]

aha, it's a firmware thing. But what are the odds someone squirreled away firmware files for the second gen Iris plugs...

[midnight adder]

how are you connecting those?

[rapid tendon]

One of the bases it came with has prongs in it designed for a 18650 cell

the one with the presence sensor and such

[rapid plinth]

I just found out that my TV has a serial port on the back of it and will accept various control commands (there's quite a list). I wonder how I can abuse this....

[midnight adder]

fuzz it!

[rapid plinth]

I don't think I have to, LG has a partial spec on it right on their website

[midnight adder]

until it releases the magic smoke

tbh all I want in a display is EDID for automatic on/off - the rest my mediacenter can do

[rapid plinth]

You mean DPMS? Yeah, it can be an ask when it comes to consumer TVs. This is not some cheap budget TV, but it doesn't have DPMS. It has CEC though! Which virtually no PCs support.

LG OLEDs actually have a really dumb behavior where they will display a bright fullscreen slideshow of stock photos when they don't have a signal on the current input. Who thought that was a good idea for OLED TV firmware needs to meet one of their panel engineers in a dark alley sometime

[midnight adder]

CEC is what I meant

[rapid plinth]

This includes if the attached PC decides to turn the screen off

[midnight adder]

that's annoying yeah

[rapid plinth]

Apparently some LG TVs implement wake on LAN. But DPMS is a bridge too far. what the hell.

[forest edge]

@tidal bronzescore anything good yet for BF?

[midnight adder]

I bought an A1 mini 💀 so I can print more multiboard at the same time 😄

200 quids ... not too bad?!

[forest edge]

yea saving 100 is always not too bad

00f amazon BF on that printer is 255 lol

[rapid plinth]

Just thought of a smart workaround, but only works because it's OLED. Disable the "turn the screen off" setting entirely, set screensaver to "Photos" and point it at a folder that contains an image that's just solid black. So when the screensaver runs the TV is technically still "on" but all pixels are fully off.

[midnight adder]

or how about showing that bouncing DVD Logo? 😄

imagine the dopamine rush when you catch it hit the corner!

can you measure the power consumption when showing a black picture?

[rapid plinth]

I suppose you could... but I'm not one for screensavers. I'd rather the display just stop emitting light entirely if no one is looking at it. This does that pretty nicely.

hmm yeah I probably should put it on a smart plug for a while

[placid yoke]

Anyone know why my browser would hang here when I can access HA through the app without issue? I haven't been able to access HA through a browser for 2 days

[forest edge]

ask in #1284966540617449515 but check to make sure it's not a browser issue first

[solar zealot]

If you are using ha behind a proxy it's the websocket not working

[placid yoke]

Thanks, I'll address that in my post

[royal marsh]

Can anyone recommend tutorials/guides for YAML coding?

[silent dove]

Learn YAML in Y Minutes

YAML is the mark up language used by Home Assistant, consistent indenting (two spaces per level) is key. Here is a primer, and this explains multi-line templates. For validating YAML see YAML Lint.

[solar zealot]

should link the spec for datatypes

[royal marsh]

Thanks @clever mortar , but i was also thinking about learning what next line should be, for example in an automation. How do i know when/how there should be an action, a trigger or a condition and what they should contain?

[clever mortar]

By reading the docs?

#1284980040940912641 can help you if you're confused

[royal marsh]

Thanks

[crisp oriole]

fast

[hexed spade]

trouble in #beta

whats going on with this epix himself... please ban

[young sigil]

Done

[crisp oriole]

Someone who hates his own ancestors.

[crisp oriole]

The cyber security discord when im in has a questionnaire that probes if your really into cyber security if you are intressted in hacking others your going to a fake part of the server where the mods troll you.

[deft pewter]

But... 'interested in hacking others' is a valid part of cybersecurity. Haven't they heard of red teaming?

Not everyone wants to be on blue team.

[solar pagoda]

We're in the process of extending the tplink integration to support Tapo robovacs. We don't actually have any devices ourselves to test with so feel free to reach out directly if you're willing to help out testing.

Tapo devices are still controlled locally by the app if they are prevented from accessing the internet.

[dawn badge]

I was unaware they had a fallback. i was just going by the fact when their server shit the bed a few weeks ago for about a day. some tapo plugs i have on the network went unresponsive or very slow responce. tbh its not really me that interacts with them on a regular bassis and i havent messed with them for a year or so.

either way they wouldnt be something i would select to use. its other people in the house that have them i just make it work with some stuff

[red rock]

I have no clue

[crisp oriole]

Only if they spam 50 peeps in one hour. Very personal

[primal laurel]

recruiters dont care about you, you are cattle to them

[twilit venture]

Just wanna say the convert to sections feature is great

[red rock]

At least I got back to you in 3 business days

[twilit venture]

less code tinkering, more UI options to manage

[twilit venture]

That's how long it took AI to report on resume compatibility

[civic rivet]

Does anyone know some software with a nice interface to look at recorded footage from an IP camera? The camera saves the footage on a nas, but it's in 1min videos and I have no easy way to look through things lol

[snow raven]

just to clarify, you just want to make it easier so you don't have to deal with a bunch of 1 minute separate files, right?

[civic rivet]

Yeah. I know I've seen a bunch of software for cameras like frigate/motioneye(not sure if it had this specific feature) but I'm not sure which ones they were

I just want to view my footage like in the "Playback" section of the eufy or xiaomi or other camera apps so I can go to date & time and see what happened

My cats broke something yesterday for example so I wanted to see what happened and if any of them got hurt, so it was not easy

[snow raven]

yeah, I used to use the wyze app, I think I know what you mean unfortunately the one I was thinking of is a walled garden now

But

If you want to dig a bit into it, you could finish this bash alias I already had, I modified it slightly to suit your purposes:

find . -type f -name "*.mp4" -printf "file '%p'\n" | sort > filelist.txt && ffmpeg -f concat -i filelist.txt -c copy output.mp4 && rm filelist.txt

basically that one liner takes every mp4 file in the folder you run it in, sorts it, and concats it all together.

[civic rivet]

Hmm I see, yeah merging them is a good idea until I find something or get annoyed enough to make something

[snow raven]

yeah, be careful with that, I changed it enough I'd def run it in a test dir.

[civic rivet]

Yeah don't worry I'm a sysadmin I can handle myself. Really appreciate it, saves me some time from fiddling with it

[snow raven]

ffmpeg is awesome

anyone have any lirc experience?

[dry atlas]

Sure thing!

[real flint]

Is there a way to link to dashboards to open in the app?

[dry atlas]

Would it be posible to have a line cross 0 so i can see when my energy ussage is negative?

[supple grove]

https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/integrations/url-handler/ Take a look here

[supple grove]

Take a look here: https://github.com/apexcharts/apexcharts.js/issues/1771

[dry atlas]

Ty!

Works like a charm!

[midnight adder]

isnt that a different card?

[dry atlas]

Yep.

[daring jolt]

why is the tile icon a separate button from the tile card

[iron granite]

So you can have different interactions

[tidal bronze]

Nothing interesting yet.

[real flint]

Perfect! Thanks! Got it to work from an NFC tag 😃

[eager current]

Hi all! I'm trying to use my phone to detect when I connect and disconnect to a Bluetooth connection.

I'm currently using Bluetooth Connection, Connected Paired Devices and have tried both the Bluetooth devices name as well as its Mac ID in the "from" text box. I have created an action of sending a notification to my phone which I use in other automations in it works fine..

Any idea what I might be doing wrong?

[iron granite]

#1284965926336335993 can help with the settings in it and #1284980040940912641 with the HA automation side of the story.

[eager current]

Thank you!

[jagged lodge]

Well here's a surprise. Recently moved to a new place. Looks like the previous tenant left some LED strips under the shelving. I'll have to figure out what controller works for them.

[grizzled gull]

if they are 4 wire rgb I have had good luck with https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09P7ZY2XJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

Its a Tuya device but seems to work fine

[forest edge]

plug in the baseboard is weird

4wire rgbww

[static schooner]

I've seen that in some houses

[grizzled gull]

isn't 4 wire RGB

rgb + positive

5 wire is rgbww?

[forest edge]

yea you are probably right but I have seen 3 wire rgb strips too

[jagged lodge]

looks like he put 4 strips of LED lights connected to a controller, but the controller got painted over with the landlord special lol

[grizzled gull]

That controller I listed is zigbee (if you use zigbee)

[jagged lodge]

i do, but ill need a new 4 strip -> 1 controller adapter

[forest edge]

not really. could do 2 2 channel or 4 1 channel

[grizzled gull]

oh thats easy they sell Y's for that so 2:1

[glacial knot]

a bit of tin and a soldering iron will do

[grizzled gull]

or that listing I just listed, is for 2

each with 2 channels

well not channels

2 outputs(same on both outputs

[tiny bridge]

Quick question guys, I've turned on my raspberry pi, how long until the home assistant will acutally come up on my browser?

[jagged lodge]

yeah that should work perfectly. are there any power adapters with 2 cables so I can use 1 outlet?

[jagged lodge]

trying but my sonoff usb is being a pain #1312104975559819375

[jagged lodge]

one of the few downsides about having birds -> cant solder. instantly poisonous fumes in minuscule doses.

[lone dagger]

I bought custom Keycaps for my gift for the holidays today.

[forest edge]

bought a bunch of stuff.. nothing smart home related but stuff I needed

[lone dagger]

Finally my ergodox will be personalized instead of some weird key formatting in which nothing matches.

NO LABELS

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-gif-20076210

[glacial knot]

I'm not sure which of my recent silly expenses was my self-Gift 🤷

[forest edge]

is one the keys just plain white to match your dead pixel?

[tidal bronze]

Same here, can't think of anything smart home related. I think clothes this time 🙂

[forest edge]

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/B1pppR4gVKL._CLa|2140%2C2000|71OQpWhxxZL.png|0%2C0%2C2140%2C2000%2B0.0%2C0.0%2C2140.0%2C2000.0_AC_UY1000_.png

[static schooner]

Is Mo a cow?

[iron granite]

Moo

[forest edge]

https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-7t5byr9njq/images/stencil/600x600/products/2063/2902/IMG_E1839__42904.1696536197.JPG

[lone dagger]

That got fixed last night. tom_l had a trick that was magic.

[forest edge]

i'm sure we'll find another and point it out to you during next stream

[lone dagger]

Super simple fix, too.

[glacial knot]

percussive maintenance?

[lone dagger]

lol funny you post this because I did get some resin caps with planets in them.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1344777004/

[shell basalt]

I need to make my pilgrimage down there .. it's been a good few years since I've visited

[tiny bridge]

Does anyone know if Nest Cam works with home assistantr

[glacial knot]

Fancy

[lone dagger]

Fairly sure it does, but I’m also an idiot.

[tiny bridge]

Lol

[tidal bronze]

Looking at some uniqlo stuff

[jagged lodge]

i was afraid of this. the sonoff usb dongle i got is too old to flash without some kind of override

[lone dagger]

Keycaps have been a long time coming for me lol. Expensive fucking hobby.

[glacial knot]

yea

though I don't use my resin caps anymore
I wonder if it's an issue with that specific seller, or they generally wear out

[jagged lodge]

does anyone have an amazon link to a zigbee dongle that doesnt need flashing?

[grizzled gull]

that dongle I listed won't need flashing?

[forest edge]

i don't think I ever been there. i'm in your neck of the woods going by your username

[jagged lodge]

no the zigbee adapter. the sonoff one i have is too old to flashhttps://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B6P22YJC

or i guess it can be flashed, but i need to open it up first

[forest edge]

wtf is that suppose to be? the banana monster?

[static schooner]

This is all #1284966617670881350

Please post there

[shell basalt]

It's worth a trip now and then.. the fudge is actually pretty good .. lots of childish humor around the name .. last time I was there I was talking to the Mayor that they need to get a Kum & Go there

[jagged lodge]

#1312104975559819375

[tidal bronze]

Gotta ask Andy Warhol

[static schooner]

They apparently opened a Uniqlo store here and lots of folks were excited. I had to look it up and remained confused

[tidal bronze]

Love their t's

[lone dagger]

These ones are nice because they go on the top row, but I might put them on my least used keys at my thumb on my keyboard.

[glacial knot]

yea. I had it on the escape key. not a great choice

[lone dagger]

Almost bought a backspace key that said FUCK on it but they didn’t have a 1.75 size - my backspace is not regular sized.

[jagged lodge]

The ZBT-1 is on sale so i grabbed that

[lone dagger]

55% off the resin keycaps was too good to pass up.

30% off the full key set.

[forest edge]

hard pass.. talking to an artist is torture

[glacial knot]

I need to get around to building a split for home use

[lone dagger]

I love my ergodox, mostly.

It needs to be cleaned, which has nothing to do with the device itself and more with my habits lmao.

Sometimes it double taps keys. Fun in a counting channel when I type too fast and my keyboard betrays me with a double 3.

LMAO IT JUST TRIED TO DO IT TO ME

[forest edge]

will say doorbuster sales this year seemed kind of shit

[lone dagger]

Yeah, I honestly don't care about Black Friday most years. Not much entices me.

[jagged lodge]

i just got cleaning supplies and some groceries deals

[tidal bronze]

Cleaning supplies! Yep

[jagged lodge]

oh and my protein powder and vitamins were on sale lol

[tidal bronze]

They are always on sale at Costco 🙂

[forest edge]

welp just bought my first smart home thing on black friday and it wasn't even a black friday deal lol

found some oddball 20 buck zigbee thermostat I plan to use in the workshop

[static schooner]

that's how they get you

here's a bunch of deals on stuff you don't want! And there's also this other stuff....

[forest edge]

this thing is ancient. was apparently made for xfinity through comcast

[static schooner]

Amazon seems intent on showing me a bunch of stuff I've already bought and have no intention of buying again

[forest edge]

really? it keeps showing me the stuff that was still expensive as hell even on sale that i only glanced at once

[static schooner]

if I searched for and bought an alarm clock, no need to think I'll need to buy more of them

[forest edge]

can't have enough time

[static schooner]

yo, I heard you like alarm clocks...

[keen bridge]

You can't say something like that and not give me a link!!

[static schooner]

A classic: https://github.com/nvbn/thefuck

[rapid plinth]

I think I have the same thermostat. It's... quirky. It doesn't have "auto" or "fan only" modes, and there's a noticeable delay when issuing commands, as if it's a "sleepy" device that only wakes up every 15s or so. Gets the job done though.

[ocean oar]

Heh, sounds like the fun of using Mitsubishi's cloud service with the built-in WiFi on my heat pump. It only checks in every 30 seconds, so updates are very far from instant.

Good thing it has local control, which is instant

[tidal bronze]

LLM's for automations, not as smart lol.

[lone dagger]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1763314620/

[ocean oar]

Ok, but also escape key monster: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1580023747/

[lone dagger]

Isn't that cute????

[solar zealot]

they made a visualization for package drop`???

[untold oriole]

is my i5-12500t mini pc with 16 gigs of ram running HA in a vm overkill?

also has a Minecraft server, discord bot and Agent DVR

running debloated Win11

[solar zealot]

for just ha probably

including other stuff maybe

[forest edge]

Centralite?

this one shows a fan mode

my needs are only a two wire heater so this thing is kind of overkill as I could have used just a relay but I like the idea of just using an actual thermostat incase manual input is needed at the unit

[untold oriole]

would this setup work?
Tuya Zigbee TRV on all radiators in my apartment, i already have one and it works wonderfully with zigbee2mqtt.
Sonoff basic relay on my boiler.
Automation to turn on boiler when any TRV's thermostat switched to heating

[azure barn]

Is there any way to possibly have audio go from my PC to Home Assistant's audio system?

I do NOT want my PC to act as a player, I want any audio on my PC streamed to HomeAssistant, and then forwarded to the other speakers hooked up to it. Squeezebox, Chromecast, etc.

I've tried to Google this, the only things I get are streaming audio from home assistant to my pc. I want the opposite.

[keen bridge]

It would have to go to somewhere from Home Assistant though..? HA isn't a speaker

[azure barn]

I have the home assistant music server installed.

I'm wanting to be able to cast audio to all of my chromecast, squeezebox, and other audio systems simultaneously.

From my pc.

[keen bridge]

So what you're looking for is for your PC to be a music provider for Music Assistant. Did you try the Music Assistant Discord?

The music assistant companion app may also be a solution: https://music-assistant.io/companion-app/

(At least I assume so, I've not looked into that myself)

[azure barn]

Yeah, it only acts as a player with the communion app. I already saw that.

I did not know there was a music assistant Discord though, I'll definitely check with them.

Thanks!

[serene shuttle]

What's the best channel to ask about NUC proxmox deployments? Specifically I'm trying to ask if anyone else is running an OS like Ubuntu in other container just to drive a touchscreen display and run a web browser for the dashboard, on the same NUC as HAOS (in a separate VM obviously)

[crisp oriole]

Waiting for the bus in amsterdam to go home. Going beta test on my way home.

@serene shuttle Fischju if you want a browser and ha on the same machine. Use any other linux than proxmox and use libvirt

[crisp oriole]

And write up my libvirt howto. Note: add browser on the same machine

[lone dagger]

#1284966540617449515 probably.

[serene shuttle]

Not a fan of proxmox?

[crisp oriole]

Fan of debian. Cant say proxmox is a bad product. Works best in most cases. But not all

Make a topic in installation and i tell all about it.

[distant junco]

Proxmox VE is debian 🙂

[crisp oriole]

As much debian as mint is

Proxmos is the only linux distro with out libvirt i know off

[serene shuttle]

https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1312189607777144943

[desert cave]

not really.. Proxmox is a direct fork of Debian, Mint is a fork of Ubuntu, which is a fork of Debian. Degrees of separation

[lone dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-nerd-gif-9743791

[desert cave]

damn right :3

[crisp oriole]

Yea. Sounds like. 0.1 or 0.01 beer where i want my normal 5.1

[rapid plinth]

Yep. Hass will show a "Fan mode" option but if you try to change it while the thermostat is off it will refuse to change. And if you set it "On" while in Heat or Cool and turn the thermostat off the fan turns off.

the physical Fan button on the thermostat has exactly the same behavior so it's just a hardware limitation

I'm controlling my actual full-fledged furnace with AC. I thought about going the relay route but decided I'd rather have something that would actively maintain its setpoint even if my server suffered some existential failure

[forest edge]

well that makes sense. the fan mode is considered recirculating so the device would be on just as if heat or cool was being used

I see there are actually two models on this centralite. i got the much mor eplain version the other looks slightly fancier but according to z2m both are same in terms of controls and features

@rapid plinthhow long do the batteries last?

[rapid plinth]

Dunno. I'm using a C-wire with mine.

didn't even put batteries in it.

[forest edge]

I don't have that option

[rapid plinth]

well let me know I suppose 😉

[lean dragon]

My parents are pretty tech illiterate. Any chance a simple Home Assistant configuration might be nice for them? I was mainly thinking of using it to set up a smart rain gauge for my dad and maybe a couple of smart plugs and pair them with some old Android phone or laptop. Nothing fancy.

[forest edge]

While you could create a simple dashboard for them to operate, working HA in it's whole is not exactly simple.

[lone dagger]

I know several community members run their parents’ instances. As long as you are aware of their limitations and communicate with them every step of the way, they should be good to go.

Sonoma isn’t wrong, but don’t let that dissuade you. 😁

[ocean oar]

I think if I was doing it for the 'rents, would put it in kiosk mode so they just had a dashboard, then only ever touch it when I went to visit

[lean dragon]

Yeah that would be the goal - just a display

I'd give my more tech familiar brother more details

[ocean oar]

I'd also suggest making as many things as possible the likes of smart switches, rather than smart devices. So in the event that it does fail, it falls back to just operating normally in "dumb" mode

[proven onyx]

I'm having trouble adding my TP-Link P110M smart plug through the TP-Link Tapo integration. This is the first P110M (using a few P100 and P110 which have all worked fine). Home-Assistant detects the P110M, but entering the Tapo app credentials gives "Failed to connect". All other plugs have always worked in this way. Don't know if anyone has seen this issue or could help?

Just trying to add through Wifi through the Tapo integration, not using Matter

[iron granite]

#1284966582375813201 might be able to help. This is no support channel.

[clear ferry]

I heard someone say debian

I was was happy

Shaming Ubuntu and proxmox is also a plus

[distant junco]

What don't you like about them?

[forest edge]

someone say ubuntu is good

[young sigil]

Yeah but some drink their own piss too.

[lusty widget]

Ubuntu is pain in the ass

[forest edge]

someone praise ubuntu for making linux more mainstream

[forest edge]

aww look.. it's climbing into the pie to be cooked

wish it would defur itself first tho

[clear ferry]

The snap enforcement of Ubuntu is utter annoying, and proxmox is a gateway drug to poor learning

Also, screw lxc

I love when my customers go "yeah we can just swap from vsphere to proxmox, I use it at home" and then I tell them that they are on their own with hardware support and they only get os support from 8-16 and they run a 24/7/365 business with huge financial losses during downtime

[dusky plank]

You still mad on intel losing?

[clear ferry]

No I embrace amd, they finally have good products after a decade, zen3 and beyond is fine

[blissful veldt]

is there an easy way to find out what devices these are

[clear ferry]

Have you tried opening them

And looking at the description

[iron granite]

Maybe those are px30_evb 🤔

[blissful veldt]

yeah theyre mobile apps ive setup not sure which ones are active 🤔

[clear ferry]

Do what I do in enterprise, unplug / power it off and see who screams

[glacial knot]

yea, the best way to find out if something is still needed

[iron granite]

Nobody said anything about plugging them in again after the screaming starts.

[clear ferry]

Yes daddy

[desert cave]

it's okay to be wrong :)

[clear ferry]

Rhel is fine, coreos however is not

[desert cave]

didn't vmware get shut down by whoever bought them?

[iron granite]

Hannah Montana Linux

[desert cave]

haha

[iron granite]

https://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/

[desert cave]

https://tenor.com/view/pings-off-reply-pings-off-reply-ping-discord-reply-ping-gif-22087396

[clear ferry]

Ha ha ha

No

[desert cave]

I know they laid off a bunch of people

a local friend of mine was with them for like 10 years and got booted, and it definitely wasn't "peformance related"

anyway yes, debian good :D

[iron granite]

Vmware is weird. Making Workstation Pro free, but canning free ESXi.

[desert cave]

we just finished our yearly pentest at $work, and the only thing to give us any trouble out of 8k servers was an ESXi box being run by sales

[iron granite]

Ancient version or something new?

"Back in the days" I used ESXi for my digital playground mini-server

[desert cave]

new-ish? I could go look up the version but it was deployed maybe 2-3 years ago. It's sales, and I'm sure it wasn't updated since, lol

[acoustic coral]

Hey folks, is BTHome still a thing? Just stumbled over it and see so few updates and library support. trying to get it running with an arduino and the ArduinoBLE library.

[desert cave]

amusingly, we're getting ready to move all our KVM hosts from debian to proxmox, since it has a lot of the glue we need already in place

[iron granite]

I think Shelly uses the BTHome standard for their Blu buttons.

Yeah. The website states that as well.

[clear ferry]

They have split the company out in multiple parts already, but keeping the money cows around, we just released our own hypervisor, so we will probably be at odds with Broadcom going forward

We can replace the entire vsphere stack

But I'll be doing VMware stuff for a decade still anyway, it's not like it is going away

It will be in a free version too for people wanting something new

https://www.theregister.com/2024/11/20/hpe_vm_essentials_greenlake/

[last cedar]

Please help, I am stuck in a leaf, washing my hands

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/disgusting-scottish-irish-british-desgosteng-gif-15939723

DISGUSTING!

[rough forum]

Hey, I’ve installed HA on a raspi a few months ago to host my smart home on it.
Additionally I’ve added adguard home to it and everythink worked fine.
Now, since a few weeks, HA is always showing me the message that a new device has been discovered: adguard home.
Why is that?

[crisp oriole]

#1284966582375813201 can help. this is not a support channel

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/around-the-world-daft-punk-gif-18871424

Sorry fam, only shitposting here

[crisp oriole]

WORLD AROUND THE WORLD IS ROUND.

good old tech with robots with out AI

[clear ferry]

I will always love that music video

So simple

So wonderful

[crisp oriole]

then you should love a small selection of chemical brother videos to

[clear ferry]

Aphex twin will always haunt me

[acoustic tapir]

What’s a good integration to monitor stats for a windowspc? Like temps, fans speds, etc etc. I’m using Librehardware monitor together with the HA integration but it has a lot of issues so looking for something better

[clear ferry]

There are at least half a dozen ones either native apps or just shell commands

[acoustic tapir]

Yeah i mean with an HA integration.

[clear ferry]

You don't need that

Just use mqtt or API or webhook or

Etcetc

[acoustic tapir]

How?

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-ok-jaeweezy-lol-gif-21038351

[crisp oriole]

#1284966617670881350 can help.

[clear ferry]

I brought the horse to water, but it refuses to drink halp

[crisp oriole]

try fresh water next time

[iron granite]

Time to make some sausages from it?

[crisp oriole]

Kroketten

[rough forum]

okay, thx

[storm pagoda]

I wanted to share that I recently bought a 2nd pellet stove to put on the other side of the house (Cleveland IronWorks No. 215) It's smaller, which is okay considering it doesn't need to heat a terrible amount of space. It's 'smart' ... aka they put a Tuya chip in it. Thanks to Jazzmonger, though, I was able to use LocalTuya to create a new device, map the DPs and keep an eye on it with HomeAssistant. I decided not to flash with ESPHome, as quite honestly I am too lazy anymore to risk bricking a $1000 pellet stove, even IF I can get the parts replaced by customer support. Anyhoo, thought it was cool.

[clear ferry]

Dis u @glacial knot ?

[glacial knot]

I'm just playing around with HA control plane on two Odroid-M1

[clear ferry]

Lål

[glacial knot]

though the next step will likely be rook for some ceph suffering

[clear ferry]

I'm currently designing a multi tenant openshift cluster that is gonna be later deployed with hypershift on the side

And also designing the entire SDN

https://tenor.com/view/danger-gif-15291718235185428481

Just €600k per node, expecting 200 nodes

For some reason I'm also responsible for the firewalls, bgp peering to tenants and all cross org talk

[glacial knot]

that sounds like a lot of pain

[primal laurel]

nvidia at 140, AI bubble still hasn't burst lol

[lone dagger]

NO STRESS

[clear ferry]

Thankfully I never stress

Wife hates this one trick

"you need 120 nodes configured? Sure I'll fix it tomorrow, gotta go pick up some kids, kthxbye"

[lone dagger]

Ah I see you have the neurodivergent ability of compartmentalizing everything to get shit done.

[keen bridge]

I'm in this picture and I don't like it.

[clear ferry]

Managers love this one trick

[lone dagger]

“How to burn out your best workers”

😆

But for real, glad you know you can do this.

[clear ferry]

I work 60h a week, but I only work 25h effectively

[lone dagger]

That’s a lot of money to be at risk.

[clear ferry]

Glad I don't have to go into an office and get distracted

[lone dagger]

I can say I work 60 hours a week only because shitposting is part of my job and I do it on the weekends too.

[clear ferry]

Thankfully all my managers have also been "can I please call you, I know you probably are busy "

[keen bridge]

I know my boss will only ever message me after 3pm on a Friday if there's a critical customer issue. Which he did yesterday, but we got a fix together and he told me to go enjoy the weekend by 4:30. I won't complain!

[clear ferry]

Even when I had on call duty my managers would always send me a text message asking if they could call me first

[lone dagger]

I live too far away from most of my company for them to do that to me.

[clear ferry]

I live 1400km from the office

[lone dagger]

lmaooooo

That’s how far away I live from my lead.

[forest edge]

there be snow!

[lone dagger]

Woot

We just had frost today.

Maybe I should bring my potatoes inside…

[primal laurel]

career goal: be one of those people who are forgotten about by the company they work for and just calmly collect money while doing nothing

[weak musk]

https://tenor.com/view/office-space-milton-stephen-root-stapler-gif-3810312

we all know how that ends

[lone dagger]

Hard to do that in a company of 50 people. 🙈

[primal laurel]

maybe when you finally get acquired by microsoft

that does seem how it happens though

according to reddit

[weak musk]

Don't put that into the world

[lone dagger]

lmao Paulus would never sell to Microsoft.

Can’t sell it anyway.

[primal laurel]

I know, its been a running joke for years

im cleaning dust

[weak musk]

Capitalism...uh, finds a way?

-# please no

[lone dagger]

The foundation protects the project.

[weak musk]

yeah

[lone dagger]

My role is a bad example too.

I’m designed to be visible.

If I wasn’t …

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-relieved-smiling-wrestling-gif-19533991

[weak musk]

all I see is this

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-michael-scott-the-office-you-complete-me-complete-gif-24525055

[forest edge]

cyber monday deals start today!.. being saturday..

companies have ruined the whole point of the naming

[serene shuttle]

I got a lot of great deals on Third Reality stuff yesterday, looks like they are still on

[lone dagger]

My favorite one this year was seeing Amazon do Black Friday Week sales.

Like that’s how they phrased it. Not even hiding what they’re doing.

[forest edge]

Like going into work and celebrating TGIF on a tuesday

[weak musk]

is that an option??

[lone dagger]

It is!

You’ll look like an idiot but it is an option!

[desert cave]

My favorite was all the Amazon workers going on strike on black Friday :D

[lone dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/liz-lemon-wednesday-what-a-week-gif-15777803

Big this energy

[desert cave]

Maybe they should do the whole week too

[lone dagger]

And it’s the 5th year they’ve done this.

[forest edge]

lol the news made it out to be a yearly holiday tradition

[lone dagger]

The group that organizes it has done it for 5 years. I BELIEVE that group is external.

[forest edge]

I wonder if they have a shed or something to store thier signs till next year

[lone dagger]

That’s the smart thing to do but also maybe they can just take supplies from the warehouse???

[weak musk]

they just reorder with prime 2day

damnit Missy

[lone dagger]

[forest edge]

ugh snow is great and all but snow on a cloudy days is crap

as if getting dark by 5pm wasn't bad enough.. just after noon and i look outside and think I should be thinking about dinner

[lone dagger]

Same here, but darker earlier.

[desert cave]

Pnw is fun for that. 10pm sunset in summer, 5pm in winter

[lone dagger]

It's 4:18 today.

[forest edge]

ok, HOW have you not been deleted yet?

[primal laurel]

what was it?

[lone dagger]

Just job spam.

Less fun than the dick in profile picture I just had to reset on the forums.

[desert cave]

Sorry you had to reset Sonoma's profile lol

[crisp oriole]

I know a lot of peeps that are still a dick after resetting there profile.

[primal laurel]

*their (I'm an asshole)

[lone dagger]

English is hard.

[crisp oriole]

@lone dagger did you get my message of the working proof of concept

[desert cave]

English is a dick

[lone dagger]

I did and promptly forgot to respond to you.

Whooops.

[primal laurel]

yes. Compared to other languages? No

[lone dagger]

Correct.

Well, at least several others.

There's a ridiculous amount of languages out there. 😄

[primal laurel]

in high school dutch, english, german and french are mandatory

I am never speaking baguette again

[forest edge]

❓ 🇬🇧 🪨

[crisp oriole]

I can order beer in like 8 languages including Japanese and mandarin

Only by 2 btw

[forest edge]

google translate ftw

https://images7.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED432/652cd3a2ba6c3.jpeg

[crisp oriole]

Are you betting your refeshments on a 24/7 internet connection

[iron granite]

Daft_dutch can only order 2 beers in 8 languages.

[crisp oriole]

Well i dont want to be an asshole and only order for my self

[forest edge]

no english no bueno

[primal laurel]

I want 4x 2 beers por vafor

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/king-of-the-hill-bill-dauterive-merica-america-flag-gif-11317646004176629108

[crisp oriole]

Bieru Ie pai onagaishimas

Dji pjen piju.

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/here-ein-euro-ein-euro-egoist-one-euro-gif-21607656

[forest edge]

now you are risking a ban

get em mods!

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/brave-face-the-office-all-i-can-do-now-put-on-a-brave-face-steve-carell-gif-17890326

[lone dagger]

[dawn badge]

so being in a smaller room with the door closed is worse than i thought (added co2 sensor today)

[lone dagger]

OH YEAH IT IS.

How fun scary is that???

[dawn badge]

apprantly over 1000 is bad. i was expecting it to go up a bit but not that much

[forest edge]

your fine till above 2k

[lone dagger]

When I got my air-1 I immediately was like "welp, guess I just have the window open all the time."

[dawn badge]

yeah seems like >1k is not ideal and >2k is leaning more towards bad

its really concerning though. how long have i been exposing myself to minor co2 toxisiity?

[primal laurel]

what sensor is that? Unless you have the expensive IR ones it's not accurate

[forest edge]

everything I have read is that you won't even begin to have any negative effects till above 2K but even then as long as your not hitting 3k+ you should be unaffected by it

[dawn badge]

its a "Sensiron SCD40" supposed to be accurate to 50ppm + 5%

is available as a module for the EP1
https://shop.everythingsmart.io/products/everything-presence-one-lite-co2-add-on

[primal laurel]

ah yeah that's a good IR based one

[forest edge]

you may wanna recalibrate your sensor. i'm in a closed room and just barely above 1k

[dawn badge]

i dont expect it to be science lab accurate but it gives a decent indication. how do you calibrate it? do you have to be in a known level place to do it?

[forest edge]

outside

it has to be outside

does the device it connects to not give you th option?

[dawn badge]

aha,maybe ill stick it out the window for a bit and calibrate it (when its not raining)

[forest edge]

my apollo in HA gives me this

yea

[dawn badge]

it has a button but i didnt press it because i didnt know the "proceedure"

[forest edge]

there you go

you have to put it outside for like a few minutes, hit the button and then let it sit for like 10 minutes or something

the apollo directions should eb the same

https://wiki.apolloautomation.com/products/general/calibrating-and-updating/co2-calibration/

[dawn badge]

yeah to be fair i am sure theres probably documentation on lewis's website for this somewhere. i just havent looked very hard

my excuse is that there is high levels of co2 in here

"allegedly"

[forest edge]

don't breathe so hard

[dawn badge]

instructions unclear, passed out and hit head. not sure it helped

[hollow glacier]

We use the same sensors.. or rather a year later they decided to add the same functionality

[forest edge]

mmwave being triggered by heat coming from a vent is a issue

[hollow glacier]

i think it's the air currents themselves not whether they are cold or hot? im not positive on that tho

[forest edge]

I dunno but my tuya one gets triggered all the time, been slowly decresing it's sensitivty and even my apollo one was triggered once by it

[lone dagger]

Interesting, I wonder if that's what happened once in my son's room when he left the AC on near my MSR.

[hollow glacier]

the SCD40 is a "true NDIR" CO2 sensor and very accurate assuming they pre-calibrated it before sending it to you. we pre-calibrate ours (apollo automation) if they are added on when buying - i would definitely re-calibrate to confirm it is calibrated and then try to minimize CO2 if possible with hvac fan etc

[hollow glacier]

fresh air outside is best but ya just stirring the air around seems to help a lot- but where the MSR-2 or w/e the CO2 sensor is matters a lot

like you want to measure CO2 at your desk if you're at your desk a lot.. and it's scary how high it can get with no airflow in a room

[lone dagger]

No I meant triggering the radar detection.

[hollow glacier]

for reference, the highest line is my room (which i've been in a lot today)

these are all safe levels.. even 800 where it starts going orange, but i wanted my graph to have more pretty colors so i played with the thresholds haha

[hollow glacier]

yeah fans / vents trip a lot of people up but you can tune them out

https://wiki.apolloautomation.com/products/general/calibrating-and-updating/mmwave-videos/ we have two 5min videos on it but basically you just max out a slider telling it to ignore "energy" for particular "gates" aka 0.75meter lengths

[lone dagger]

Eh, it happened once.

I went in, turned off the AC (just because he left it on in the first place...), and when I went out it was fine. Never thought about it again until just now.

😂

[hollow glacier]

Ah lol

[lone dagger]

I use radar targets for his lights.

[hollow glacier]

Frankly I’m not the best tuner I’m better at all the other things

[lone dagger]

So I was like "wtf why are these on??"

[hollow glacier]

i like the idea of using zone 1/2/3 themselves then you get a bit more fine grained control but ultimately i just trigger on all 3 as if they are radar targets

[lone dagger]

The distance in the MSR-2 is great.

It really helped me fine tune the overnight light settings.

[dawn badge]

tuning around mmwave detections through walls has been a bit of a thing for me. lights going up and down randomly trying to work out why

[hollow glacier]

I’m not intimately familiar with their yaml but for our mmWave sensors we have max distance limits you can set

This ignores my cats 🐈 sitting on the stairs behind the dining room

[hollow glacier]

Did you use any of the dashboards people made to simplify it?

I did not but I need to try them

[lone dagger]

No, like the rest of you I do shit the hard way.

[hollow glacier]

https://preview.redd.it/raw-dogging-reality-v0-ry95f9pjadsb1.png?auto=webp&s=dc5753d1c792df0d57d83b6054ca7a94d9dc78eb

[dawn badge]

yeah they have simalar settings. i have it mostly worked out now. there is 1 area which is harder for me to work around without moving the sensor. but its so minor i dont overally care

[shell basalt]

TIL i'm "raw doggin reality"

[hollow glacier]

https://tenor.com/d38BlP2yVhI.gif

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/police-officer-super-troopers-security-state-park-gif-15950814341302266843

[shell basalt]

i stopped drinking during covid.. and I quit smoking back in march.. i am boring 😦

[hollow glacier]

https://tenor.com/8dQe.gif

i quit vaping during covid

i raw dog fresh air now

[shell basalt]

i am finding my errand drives in the evening to be most excellent since a lot people are burning wood fires this time of year and I can actually smell them

[hollow glacier]

I wasn’t addicted it was a hobby

[hollow glacier]

Rule one of smart homes is don’t leave smart home

[shell basalt]

there's not enough other humans or life forms in this house for me to shut myself in

[hollow glacier]

I learned that during Covid

Apparently like 6 months no humans is too much

[shell basalt]

I live alone, and I have two strays that I feed but even after 6 years they still wont let me pet them

[hollow glacier]

Oh that’s an easy one just get more cats

[shell basalt]

i'm trying to get them to come in.. i need to just trap them and be done with it

[hollow glacier]

I feed a stray I call Tom short for Tom

[lone dagger]

Meanwhile I take both prescription and illicit drugs to get through life.

[hollow glacier]

must be all the 5g

err mmWave

[lone dagger]

🤣

[hollow glacier]

https://www.infineon.com/dgdl/Infineon-Health Effects of mmWave Radiation-PI-v01_01-EN.pdf?fileId=5546d46266a498f50166f1ada0520444

https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/10gyvma/safety_of_mmwave_human_presensce_devices/ it comes up every so often lol

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/owl-funny-twisting-mircowave-gif-5349819

[lone dagger]

I have this sticker on my PC tower that I want to cover. So I’m like YES I’LL PUT MY HA STICKER ON IT. Except the sticker on the rig isn’t centered and it doesn’t quite cover it - there’s a little black sticking out the left. The ESPHome one fits though. 😂

[last cedar]

If you stop looking at it, it will be a lot better

I promise 🤣

[hollow glacier]

that case reminds me of the early 2000s pc cases at lans

with the flourescent lights in them

[lone dagger]

Good.

[hollow glacier]

and then that reminds me of bawls

[lone dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/corsair-i7-rgb-neon-gif-20334288

[last cedar]

Oh wow, is that your setup or a random gif?

[lone dagger]

Random gif lol.

[hollow glacier]

i never did any syncing of my pc gpu or cpu cooler

[lone dagger]

But I do have RGB lights on my keyboard.

[last cedar]

I do like a little white lighting in a blackout case, with a tinted side panel, otherwise I will be supplying the unicorn with buckets

[hollow glacier]

i've heard openrgb interfaces with wled

[lone dagger]

I’ll take a picture of the full tower after I’m done smoking.

[last cedar]

Luckily mine just has white LEDs, that are dimmable

[hollow glacier]

i figure if i ever just go full unicorn i'll try that

[lone dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/unacceptable-adventure-time-lemongrab-freakout-armflail-gif-5515437

[hollow glacier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/765737784949866516/1296263052609458207/IMG_3076.mov?ex=674c514b&is=674affcb&hm=8e15ee07ede6b0f9c2e0e250dcd25864403d2e4150727b807938cb3ab4585273& i'm happy with hyperHDR in the living room

[dawn badge]

i 100% believe you but now there a some kind of perverse pleasure in watching my air quality get worse...

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/infinite-power-lorry-images-bollard-loophole-loop-gif-26082342

Like this?

[hollow glacier]

wait til you find out most HVAC systems have ducts full of mold and other fun particles

[dawn badge]

in the UK, we dont really do HVAC. heat is water pumped around into radiators and no AC

[last cedar]

I fear mine would be, but have a dehumidifier and I am pretty anal about sorting the filters

[dawn badge]

so i am spared that one

[hollow glacier]

mold still accumulates on mini splits yo

[last cedar]

Lots of condensation on the inside of the back bedroom uPVC window I guess?

[dawn badge]

no mini splits

[last cedar]

Reminds me of growing up in England

[hollow glacier]

when you come to the usa on vacation it's extra free poisoning then

[dawn badge]

yup there is always that to look forward to

[hollow glacier]

we have the world's largest ball of twine

[dawn badge]

been known to happen

[last cedar]

I grew up in England, moved in 2009 (to Sweden). Have my own place with mechanical ventillation with heat recovery

Used to have a bathroom window we opened and used to feed air to it from the dryer in the cellar

I have gone up in the world a bit 🤣

I am always baffled by the way it has always been done in England, but I didn't know better at the time

[dawn badge]

alot of the strange things we have is because most of the reguations were written ww2 and shortly after and are only slightly updated instead of overhauled

BUT, we do have 1 thing that's the best

[last cedar]

I do actually miss the 13A plug

with a switch at the socket

spoilt

[ocean oar]

I still think our (type I) plugs warrant an honourable mention, because we have a really nice system for 10/15/20/25/32A variants of the plug, all of which allow smaller plugs to go into larger sockets:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS/NZS_3112#Variants

[dawn badge]

that's pretty nice to be fair

we do technically have a 5A version that is still allowed but nobody uses it anymore

[ocean oar]

The plugs also aren't monstrously large, but still stay in the outlets extremely well (pretty sure the angled pins help with that)

As a bonus, the centre spacing and size matches the phase/neutral of a US plug, so in the case of an appliance with a 2-pin ungrounded plug of the US variety, it can turn into an NZ plug with just a sturdy pair of pliers 😄

[dawn badge]

totally legit proceedure thats totally up to regulation

[mortal walrus]

hmm. something leaves me a bit uneasy about allowing lower amp rated plugs into much higher amp rated sockets. is it common for your plugs to have fuses in the plug? (iirc the UK ones do)

[dawn badge]

if you poke the earth pin with something to open the shutters most EU plugs will go into a uk socket too

[dawn badge]

pretty much all UK plugs have fuses yes

[mortal walrus]

in north america, 20A sockets are typically designed to allow 15A plugs, but higher rated sockets are normally 240V instead of 120V and have an incompatible design.

[primal laurel]

Isn't Sweden all heat pumps now?

[last cedar]

I actually heat my house with wooden pellets

but there is a good mix of people who use geothermal, air water and air air heatpumps, pellets and wood burners

[primal laurel]

Most cities here are trying to ban pellets because it's so bad for air quality

[last cedar]

I am looking to add an air water heatpump to the tank I already have (it has 2 massive coils in it that are not being used as far as I can see)

And keep my pellets for the coldest days/ emergencies

[last cedar]

Germany right?

[dawn badge]

everything is 230 in UK and EU is on paper 230v. although actually its 240 in uk and 220 in most of EU. but we agreed to pretend its 230 (allowed error being -6% to + 10%) so we can have universal power

[primal laurel]

NL

[last cedar]

Aha, interesting

[primal laurel]

Pellets is normally not an issue but if the whole street uses them, in high density neighborhoods its very bad for air quality

[last cedar]

I think there will be a move towards that here in Sweden, they won't be able to tax it like they can electric, so I believe that will also be a major motivator

[dawn badge]

although you sometimes get 110v in a bathroom (shaver socker) because they have their own isolation transformer which is split

[primal laurel]

Lol. Electricity is already absurdly taxed compared to gas

[last cedar]

They can make it even worse though 🤣

I pay about 400 sek for electric, and about 1300 sek for all the fees, taxes and then VAT on top of it all

[ocean oar]

Similar thing here, we're officially 230V since 2000. If you look at my UPS' input measurement for the past month it hovers in the 231-238V range

[last cedar]

so I am going to sort solar panels, so at least for a lot of the summer I can ignore that (also looking at battery)

[primal laurel]

Electricity price is about 0.25 euro/kWh. Tax is 0.15 euro of that

Ridiculous

[last cedar]

The funny thing this month was that (iirc) Vattenfall informed me that my bill was 16% more than last year, but they were also super proud of me that I used 23% less electric (and I am on fixed price)

so the extra fees and taxes have made me even worse off, despite substantially reducing my consumption

[dawn badge]

any old paperwork, if you shred it then wet it and compress + mold it a brick shape then leave it to dry out. it burns really well and can be used instead of wood in anything that burns wood. if you have access to an office worth of paperwork to shred. with a bit of work you can "make" "fire wood"

[last cedar]

Please delete this, our government are getting ready to tax it

🤣

[dawn badge]

lol, the forbidden knowledge

[last cedar]

can't have anything

[primal laurel]

If you really want to sponsor Vattenfall you should install an electric boiler or infrared heating

[lone dagger]

I ate lunch first lol.

[primal laurel]

RGB makes it run faster

Looks nice

[ocean oar]

I can buy a metal press designed for making those from my local hardware store for $34 (about 19 EUR):

[lean dragon]

Hm. Is this safe to be around? I know treated wood, e.g. 2x4s, is not - which is a shame as there is a local place that offered me free wood scraps.

[dawn badge]

there are probably some inks that make it less good but in general you will be fine

[last cedar]

My goal would be no electric bill from say March to October... should be fairly possible with a battery and 10kW setup of solar

but I need to check some more things out

Would only have to pay the yearly fee for having the main fuses, every month, as you don't pay the electric transportation taxes on electric that isn't be transported

But I am sure that will change 🤣

[forest edge]

missing an HA sticker. shameful

[lone dagger]

Valid.

[simple gazelle]

You still see it sometimes for lamps, some frieds have them in 90s-built flats

[lone dagger]

I’m gonna bust out the stickers I got at Universe. Put some on my desk maybe…

[dawn badge]

potential involved april fools plan involves switches sockets and plugs out so people can use devices that are already plugged in but cannot plug anything else in...

[vale token]

Why are sonoff zigbee dongles not readily available in Canada 😩

[lone dagger]

Probably spite.

[primal laurel]

Batteries are not economical, at least not here

You're better off sticking PV on every free surface of your house 🤣

[serene shuttle]

I'm gonna build a carport over my driveway to add even more surface to the house

For PV

[primal laurel]

It's become so cheap. It's cheaper to build fences from PV than from fence materials 🤣

[iron granite]

To power the electric fences to keep the neighbors away.

[primal laurel]

To power my Nvidia gpu

[iron granite]

Don't those require nuclear power meanwhile?

[primal laurel]

One SMR in my basement

[static schooner]

If you needed another reason to go green

[languid delta]

is there a pattern i'm looking for if i want to sync a smart plug with a pc?

ie wol/power on to the pc (ping sensor) turns on the plug, powering off the pc turns off the plug, powering on the plug from the button sends the wol packet to the pc

[iron granite]

That pretty much sounds like the pattern.

[mortal walrus]

many pcs have a setting in the bios to make them turn on immediately when they receive power, which will remove the need to use wol to turn on the pc

or maybe i'm missing something - is the pc plugged into this smart plug, or are they separate things you want to keep in sync?

[fringe swift]

Is there a way to recreate the 'Natural Light' scene from Philips Hue inside HA? Basically, the way it works is as a 'meta-scene' that activates other scenes based on the time of day. I was trying to switch over from Hue to Home Assistant but it seems like this functionality does not really exist in the same way.

I did see the Adaptive Lighting addon on HACS, as well as the 'Sensor Lights' blueprint, but neither of them really seem like a good fit for the problem I am trying to solve.

I guess in general I am a bit surprised by how 'limited' Home Assistant is, which is quite surprising since I thought it was supposed to be hyper customizable

Am I missing the forest for the trees here? It seems that even something as 'simple' as setting up a smart switch in home assistant is not really possible

Does anybody have a success story of porting a setup from Hue to Home Assistant?

[iron granite]

#find-support can guide you to the correct support channel

[languid delta]

they are separate devices. i want to copy the change of state from either device to the other one

[primal laurel]

@lone dagger is HA participating in GSoC?

[potent arch]

Is there a way to do some randomization on automation start/end times so it doesn't look scheduled?

[simple gazelle]

Die monster, you don't belong in this world

[ocean oar]

#1284980040940912641, but in short you can add a "wait" step with the configuration delay: "{{range(0,1800)|random}}" to add a random pause (that's range(min,max) in seconds)

[simple gazelle]

I have installed my first ZBMINI and it works as intended, however it has been crammed into God's busiest backbox. Got some spacers on order

[lone dagger]

I dunno what that is so

[ocean oar]

Summer of code: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/
TL;DR: Google pays compsci students to work on open-source projects over the summer.
Organisations provide mentors, student works on a project (generally some sort of medium-sized self-contained feature)

Also https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/faq

[forest edge]

just rewatched the first episode of stargate atlantis.. who knew the ancients had home assistant. https://youtu.be/XFsYMA6GS2w?si=PWoQGVUQ17HzJ77d&t=162

[fair edge]

all I see is horrible 24->60frame interpolation

[serene shuttle]

Couldn't keep the plants watered though

[forest edge]

like vinyl records.. if you can't appreciate it for what it was then all it looks is old to you

[fair edge]

it doesn't look old, and I own vinyl.....

[serene shuttle]

Stargate has issues with being fucked over with DVD -> BD upres releases by companies who don't care

In a lot of cases it's a downgrade

[fair edge]

that youtube video is fan up-res'd and frame doubled

[forest edge]

i'm watching it on my 4k tv.. looks absolutly fine to me

yea well the youtube clip could be from anything lol

[fair edge]

it wasn't shot at 60fps

[serene shuttle]

They switched from film to digital at one point too so you have to be doubly careful. There's no best version

[forest edge]

why would it be?

[serene shuttle]

I'd like to run it all through Topaz from the original DVD releases if I can get my hands on them

[fair edge]

cuz this youtube video - Stargate; Atlantis - 'Rising' [2⁄4] (1900p_48fps_VP9-128kbit_AAC)

[serene shuttle]

Oof

[ocean oar]

Imma just leave this here

[fair edge]

yeah, i hate that stuff

but the YT video's been converted

[serene shuttle]

If I ever get my hands on the best versions and Topaz them to 4k I'll put them up on a service for SG-1 and Atlantis

[upbeat bobcat]

has anyone used bubble cards to change icon and color based on boolean state?

[fair edge]

just looked, doing color with a button-card, not bubble 🙂

[forest edge]

you can either post in #1284965988642590891 or google search .bubble-icon in how to use it under the custom styles

cannot speak anymore about it in this channel

[fair edge]

what happens if you talk about it on this channel?

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/spank-spanking-looneytunes-foghornleghorn-gif-7391212

[serene shuttle]

HAOS on Proxmox and try the "unsupported" frigate on proxmox or Debian with a HAOS VM and frigate in a Docker compose...

[primal laurel]

#the-water-cooler message

[lone dagger]

Oh! No, that’s pretty cool, though. We do Hackathon.

[glacial knot]

GSOC is usually a real project over a longer time
i.e. might be interesting if there was some interest in building out a system, rather than just experimenting with something
/me might try to do GSOC next year. Depending on whether I get an intern or not 🙂

[odd glen]

evening, all

[crisp oriole]

Good morning

[uncut merlin]

Hi

[odd glen]

I'm having one of thse fun nights 🙂

[crisp oriole]

I have to do absuluut performace tests because of the google api has a low limit for the system im making. I hate absolute performance testing.

[odd glen]

I just hooked up a phy6sical switch to HA

and it's terribyl fun

[crisp oriole]

Cant sleep.
? This is a mental support channel according to a pinnend post

[odd glen]

Oh, well I am about to have a mental issue , that's for sure 🙂 HA is defying me

Sleep I might be able to help with

is it like the brain won't be quiet so you can't sleep kind of thing ?

[crisp oriole]

No im awake. No fush.

I guess i have 8 hours until im sick.

[odd glen]

What kind of sick?

ok drinks for me.

[ocean oar]

That's right. We provide support for your breakdowns, not your hardware's breakdowns

[crisp oriole]

I have problems with my server. Im trying to fix it.

• come back when you stop trying

[ocean oar]

😄

[crisp oriole]

anti psychotics side effect sick

After 5 diffrent meds and 4 years. Im now at meds that only makes me sick 3 to 4 days in a 3 week cycle. instead of BEING NUMB 24/7

[odd glen]

I want to walk away from this console and go across the street to the bar, but my psyche is not cooperating

[crisp oriole]

dont you have a phone and ssh?

[odd glen]

yes

this is a wetware issue

not hardware/software

[crisp oriole]

wetware?

[odd glen]

brain

[crisp oriole]

ah...

[odd glen]

I work for a sociopath whose abuse and degrading of me 12 hours a day 5 days a week has undermined my ability to interact with people in the real world.

[crisp oriole]

Oh crap.

[crisp oriole]

Do you got help for that.

[odd glen]

Nope

I have to find a solution daily, sometimes hourly

[crisp oriole]

How is mental healthcare in your country? This is something that is very well helpable.

[odd glen]

Incompitent

at best

my brain is shorting out, I cant find a file I just edited a few minutes ago

low level frustration buzz

lol

the last perosn I talked to about my mental health asked me ' whats wrong ' so I told her. she started crying, and then quit her job

so I'm like, hm, probably est not to do that again

[crisp oriole]

Oh..

In my language dutch im in a discord with peeps with mental issues. It helps

[odd glen]

I might give that a try

[crisp oriole]

A channel where you dont have to defend your self if you post i stayed in bed all day.

[crisp oriole]

Perhaps the new windows 11 AI Features can help you.

[odd glen]

IF you have installed windows 11 , you have larger issues to deal with 🙂

[crisp oriole]

Yeah. Got one running with libvirt.

[last cedar]

Government gives you 50% off, so plan is to start with the right inverter and milk them for the rebate

https://solmarknad.se/hem/2630-170-sungrow-three-phase-hybrid-ess-100kw-192-kwh-storage.html#/86-batteri_system-med_grönt_avdrag_50_

As an example

[neon swallow]

Is it any good to buy an actual hub device, or should I just grab the zigbee stick and plug it into my raspberry pi that runs home assistant?

[forest edge]

far more control and compatibility using a zigbee coordinator over some brand hub

[clear ferry]

Yes

Zigbee2mqtt 4 lyfe

[glacial knot]

z2m

[polar citrus]

just went to replace the battery in an aqara motion sensor and it's a cr2450

now I have to order batteries online because all I have is normal 2025 and 2032

[forest edge]

lol yea.. atleast the cr2450 lasts a really long time in them

[polar citrus]

That's true I guess, I've owned these sensors for god knows how many years and I don't remember replacing the battery before

[forest edge]

if you have a 3d printer you could print yourself an adapater to be able to use the 2032

[polar citrus]

but still, grumble grumble grumble

[polar citrus]

oh I just stuck in a paper wad lol

[forest edge]

that works too

[polar citrus]

works fine for now

[last cedar]

It would probably only detect motion once per battery though 🤣

[neon swallow]

Zigbee devices like light bulbs act as zigbee repeater for other devices right?

[glacial knot]

yea, most that have an external power source will do that

[neon swallow]

Does that also work if the two devices are not connected to the same zigbee hub?

[glacial knot]

Nope. They need to be in the same network. it's not altruism

[neon swallow]

Alright thanks

[clear ferry]

This is why we use zigbee2mqtt

Instead of nonsense vendor hubs

[primal laurel]

Zha because I don't want to deal with mqtt

[solar zealot]

zha my beloved

[rapid plinth]

zha because my zigbee stick is ancient and there's no benefit in upgrading for me given my network size/activity

[clear ferry]

You mean set and forget

And mqtt is bae for anything

[primal laurel]

I never want to deal with mqtt directly ever again

z2m has some extra features, which I dont care about

and it supports some more devices, which I dont have

[keen bridge]

Why don't you want to deal with MQTT? So many things use it as their underlying protocol

[tidal bronze]

Never mqtt?

[primal laurel]

because it's a protocol. As a user I don't want to see it, or have to worry about it

[stuck mortar]

But you don’t see it? Turn on mosquito addon, point z2m at it, done

[primal laurel]

then I still see it?

[red rock]

Close your eyes

Works all the time for me

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-success-doctor-house-dr-house-victory-gif-21867211

[hollow glacier]

ree i cant get wled working on my esp32 c3 mini ree

[red rock]

Have you tried MQTT?

[hollow glacier]

it flashes it just wont turn the leds on

pretty much the only requirement

[red rock]

I never worked with WLED, still want to look into it

Also don't really have a use case for it

[hollow glacier]

s3 and c3 boards seem to not work well or at all

[hollow glacier]

I was hoping it would just workTM

[primal laurel]

Gotta configure the right IO

[hollow glacier]

i did

the onboard button works just not the leds

https://github.com/ApolloAutomation/H-1/blob/main/Integrations/ESPHome/Core.yaml i grabbed the gpio pins from here

i dont see anything that would keep the leds from turning on

[crisp oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-awkward-sassy-unsure-gif-11752532

Security just walking on the 4th floor.

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/simth-matrix-clones-army-gif-20538073

[forest edge]

get a dud?

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/2QUum9NymZY?si=d2KFeTZTZ7BMs2xV

[iron granite]

I'm waiting for metric time.
1000 seconds in a minute
1000 minutes in an hour
1000 hours in a day (employers will be happy)
1000 days in a month
1000 months in a year

[primal laurel]

1000 milliseconds in a second

1000 microseconds in a millisecond

[iron granite]

Metric everything!

A month is a milliyear

"Kids! Only 999 months left until Christmas!"

[glacial knot]

A day doesn't have to be a Terasecond

[forest edge]

the bar one cracked me up. how many of our airs.. fit into the air

[lone dagger]

Just found a HACS integration I could use except it hasn't been updated in 5 years and I am like x.x

Don't be that person who installs it and complains about its functionality, Missy.

[glacial knot]

do be that person. But also do be the person to fix it

[lone dagger]

My engineering skills aren't even remotely that level.

[forest edge]

may still work fine. I still use a modified version to the smtp integration that has been working fine for the last 3 or so years lol

[lone dagger]

I currently fuck up scripts, soooooo.

[lone dagger]

It's for Comcast, I highly doubt it's functional now. 🤣

[glacial knot]

that's just comcast, right?

[lone dagger]

Yep. lol

I know better than to try to fix their shit.

No buttons visually rofl. But I can still click on them.

10/10 experience.

[iron granite]

But click the right correct one. One is the Cancel button.

[red rock]

Do it

When are you going to make the blue sky integration

[lone dagger]

Is there really a cancel if you can't see it???

[lone dagger]

Whenever I learn about how to make API calls.

So...not any time soon.

[glacial knot]

when are we doing a "20 SWEs teach Missy to code in 1 call"? 🙂

[lone dagger]

"WTH can't I just build custom integrations directly in the UI"
Closed - HACS unrelated

[red rock]

Yea

[red rock]

Yes

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/computer-says-no-carol-beer-no-way-little-britain-trendizisst-gif-14015902623456325888

[forest edge]

probably find out the hac integration was nothing more than a few simple template sensors

[lone dagger]

Here's how I code right now.

• Find something someone else wrote.
• Try to adjust it to fit my stuff.
• Realize I suck at this.
• Ask people who don't suck at it to HALP PLS.
• Working things are given to me.

[forest edge]

sounds like 90% of the people in this server lol

[lone dagger]

But I am special in that people actually help me when I ask.

[glacial knot]

this misses a step with "ask ChatGPT for help"

[red rock]

Script kiddie

[iron granite]

Copy-and-paste-ninja

[lone dagger]

No it doesn't. I don't need an LLM to tell me how to build things more incorrectly than I already do.
-# Also fuck OpenAI.

[lone dagger]

Gonna go take down the government services with my skills.
-# This is a joke, FBI, get outta my messages.

[glacial knot]

they'll have to employ you first

[lone dagger]

Nah, the US government is still held up with sticks when it comes to their services because they keep using MS.

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/listening-what-fbi-chris-redd-alex-moffat-gif-11784633

[lone dagger]

looooool

Another thread about Comcrap, 4 years ago. "Xfinity changed their authentication method and the code no longer works." Fuck off, Comcast.

[tidal bronze]

SMTP huh?

[lone dagger]

Here's why I am doing all this. Trying to find out if I can control our bandwidth-heavy items that aren't on my AP. https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1311717428043972678

[tidal bronze]

Isn't it too violent for a Sunday?

[forest edge]

of course.. gotta still use the trusty reliable

[lone dagger]

🎶 Today I chose violence 🎶 https://open.spotify.com/track/7LZ5f0VSZrH6M8AZ70Z3vM?si=2727819e16db4a29

There are like 4 things I am doing at once within HA.

[silent dove]

Rule 2

Do not post problematic content or media, nor anything that could be considered sexual, violent (known as NSFW/NSFL) or political in nature. This includes memes, anything that could induce epilepsy (without obstructing the content with a spoiler and making a disclaimer), or anything that can crash, restart or exploit the Discord client. If you are unsure if something is considered problematic, you shouldn't post it.

[lone dagger]

THERE IS AN E FOR EXPLICIT ON THAT

[iron granite]

BUT IT SAYS LITERALLY VIOLENCE

[lone dagger]

I regret promoting you.

[iron granite]

I know

[lone dagger]

I get stuck on one thing and move to the other. And some things depend on others. This is both fun but time consuming. So violence is chosen.

[tidal bronze]

Here I am trying to go through @forest edge list of things to buy on Cyber Monday. All I see is violence

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/unspeakable-violence-unspeakable-violence-poke-slapping-gif-14451091994871827607

[lone dagger]

[snow raven]

AHHHH I can't figure this out. I have this USB converter for my antenna plugged into a Raspberry Pi 5 running LibreELEC. I wanna stream tv to firefox. Everything works on Kodi just fine. Was originally using TVheadend and I only ever got that working with VLC manually downloading an m3u8 file, and then I switched to NextPVR as the backend and I got it working through jellyfin using the mobile app, the website works but only in chrome, but it crashes frequently and takes forever to load the first time. In firefox I get audio but no video. I think jellyfin only works on web because its running on a remote server, not the raspi, and handling the transcoding there, which is not ideal cause the service I'm using for that discourages transcoding

[tidal bronze]

Stream TV? Now that's a thought.

[lone dagger]

I just wanna control internet access on my son's devices.

[tidal bronze]

Rules

[iron granite]

Mission: Impossible

[tidal bronze]

As long as they are not cellular conneted should be walk in the park

[lone dagger]

ONLY because the gateway refuses to hold an IP address on a device and constantly acts like the iPad is a new device.

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

And I can't integrate the gateway.

Fine, this is a problem for Future Missy and I'll just deal with the bullshit I get from Xfinity.

[tidal bronze]

Are you using ISP provided stuff?

[lone dagger]

Yes and if you tell me not to I will punch you.

I know my limitations.

[forest edge]

cyber monday is shit. this year seems no diffrent

I see more clothes on sale than anything. that just dosen't make sense to me

[lone dagger]

Back to choosing violence.

[iron granite]

[lone dagger]

Time to fix lights and create scenes I guess.
-# Now that I know the point of and how to create scenes...

[tidal bronze]

https://open.spotify.com/track/0xQcLf91wRgtSK20dHV2Ee?si=WD0twwmJQcKMNz84jqznyQ&context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A5jYUpOnbJwX5revjOkFwM4

[forest edge]

I didn't like scenes that much

[lone dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/neva-never-marc-homealone-youcantstopme-gif-9816521

[lone dagger]

Franck told me how to use them last week and I was like, "Even after reading the docs, I had no idea how to use scenes...."

[forest edge]

I thought it was dumb that when you went to edit them they would automatically inherit the current state of the device even before you could think about clicking save lol

[tidal bronze]

Never saw the use of the them and never will.

[forest edge]

just opening the scene saved the new current state is what I meant

[lone dagger]

It's a snapshot of the device and it saves it.

But...

Like....

It's not very clear about that?

[forest edge]

functionality

you want red lights later, they are currently green.. you open the scene to edit it.. later you get green lights lol

[lone dagger]

Franck called it one of the more underrated features in HA and now that I know how to utilize them I kind of agree.

[lone dagger]

Oh that's fun.

[tidal bronze]

Unless you are dashboard sticky. kinda pointless

[forest edge]

I still use a couple, but mainly switched back off those to just changing the light the old fashion way

[iron granite]

The snapshot scenes are helpful sometimes.

[tidal bronze]

As in?

[iron granite]

Take a snapshot of settings, do stuff and use that snapshot to return to the previous setting.

I use that for my air filter.

[dawn badge]

its probably set to use a random mac address. usually it keeps the same one for a network. but if you tell it or delete and readd it then it picks a new one. you can disable it using a random mac address and use its real one on a per network basis. but to stop someone just reanabling the randomness you would have to block other mac addresses and white list allowed devices

[tidal bronze]

To automate or to interact?

[iron granite]

To automate. I ramp up my air filter to 100% when the vacuum robot runs, keep t at 100% for a while and return to the previous setting after some time.

[tidal bronze]

So what's the difference in that and a regular script/call?

[lone dagger]

Yeah I noticed that he had this setting on his iPad. I’m fairly sure I’ve fixed that now.

[lone dagger]

You don’t have to write it.

[tidal bronze]

Lol write what?

[lone dagger]

A script.

[tidal bronze]

You still have to call the scene

[lone dagger]

Yeah in an automation. But you don’t touch the yaml.

[iron granite]

It returns to the previous setting instead of a fixed default one.
If the default would be auto mode but decided to run it at 30%, the scene would reset it to 30%.

[tidal bronze]

Oh my. Yaml-less stuff. Not my thing.

[lone dagger]

Yeah see that’s why you won’t use them.

But for me it’s great.

[forest edge]

if you had a bunch of stuff that you wanted to be a certain way for a certain situation it saves you some time setting up each thing one at a time

but beyond that

bleh

[lone dagger]

Except we suck at explaining that.

[tidal bronze]

In my use case, bleh as well.

[lone dagger]

Yeah y’all are technical enough for scripts.

[tidal bronze]

Some random edge case, yeah but not when things are completely automated.

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-nerd-yelling-insult-gif-7884166

[lone dagger]

And editing a scene forces it into that mode so it isn’t fun to adjust either.
-# 🔜

[forest edge]

kind of surprised you don't use them QF.. figured your house was pretty close to the complexity of a decepticon at this point

[tidal bronze]

Only thing I tested was with media room and light dimming relative to media sources etc. completely useless once you script it.

[weak musk]

Wait wait. You can make an automation but not a script? 🤔

[lone dagger]

I make the automation in the UI.

[tidal bronze]

Oh wowza!

Violence!

[forest edge]

ui4lyfe

[weak musk]

You can make the script in the ui

[lone dagger]

So?

They aren’t explained.

And actively said an advanced thing.

[tidal bronze]

Missy is making a scene, let's leave it alone

[forest edge]

I like how you still use ui but anything that is remotely advanced still has you doing it yaml, even if it's just a small part of it

[weak musk]

Heyo

[lone dagger]

Nah y’all just don’t realize all the updates HA has had is specifically to help people like me.

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/its-always-sunny-sweet-dee-crippled-crutches-gif-26066995

[lone dagger]

And you’re probably baffled because you expect me to know coding. 😂 only last week was I comfortable enough to make a joke about HA with an unrelated thing.

I can read code very easily. From there

[tidal bronze]

why do you need to know coding to work with yaml?

[lone dagger]

Because you need to understand coding logic. That’s not innate to regular people.

[tidal bronze]

I think the hard part of automating is understanding home logic

[weak musk]

Cause and effect

[lone dagger]

Exactly. Why make building them harder?

If you don’t need to focus on the coding, you can focus on solutions easier.

[forest edge]

home logic like trying to make everything automated in every unforseen scenario?

[lone dagger]

I’ve spent my last 4 days off trying to figure out a few things in which I need to code. It’s significantly slowed down my automation building.

[red rock]

Learn coding.

[tidal bronze]

From timed light to that.

[lone dagger]

I don’t find this funny.

[red rock]

I'm serious as well 🙂

[forest edge]

there is no way to code for the unforseen

so why beat your head trying

[tidal bronze]

you can think for unseen. Going back to logic

[glacial knot]

I was serious about 20 SWEs in one call teaching
It'll be fun, and efficient

[tidal bronze]

There's always a way to get a state for every imaginable thing.

[forest edge]

observiable state sure.. automation that correctly deals with said state.. no

[lone dagger]

If I do, then the way things are won’t be properly fixed. My job is not to write code, it’s to manage the community. If I shift most of my work to building things then I am neglecting my other responsibilities.

[primal laurel]

Don't worry I can't be bothered with yaml most of the timer either

[weak musk]

Sure you can. It just depends on the amount of time you want to commit to it.

[lone dagger]

And it’s not a hobby for me to go learn how to code.

[red rock]

Okay I'm not that serious

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/please-disperse-leave-disperse-nothingtoseehere-gif-4982770

[tidal bronze]

I honestly don't think you need to learn how to code. Just able to manage.

[forest edge]

need more zigbee stuff and it will sort itself out

[tidal bronze]

oh here we go

[red rock]

Knowing how logic works already gets you a long way

[lone dagger]

I really hate being told to code to solve my problems when I have people who can and should help make things easier. Not you specifically, Joost, but like this is why it’s hard to get into HA.

[red rock]

Oh I get that, I'm now in a classic circle of family being bored

[tidal bronze]

It's hard to get into HA or anything automation platform because of wrong perception and wrong expectations.

[red rock]

Hence i was just poking

[primal laurel]

But I think you are right. You should be able to use the UI to do 99% of the stuff

[lone dagger]

90% of the problems I have, I look up and see at least one person say “write the code yourself” in forums or Reddit posts.

[weak musk]

I feel like I’m doing something wrong. The only actual coding I’ve had to do was template filters.

[iron granite]

But lowering the barrier where possible, doesn't hurt.

[tidal bronze]

since the inception of HA I have't done a single thing using the UI. Must give it a shot one of these days lol

[primal laurel]

One of my many unpopular opinions. I fucking hate templates

[tidal bronze]

You gotta love them