#the-water-cooler

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grizzled gull
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Mine for whaever reason seem to drop when my mother in law is around, I think she messes with the light switch to much

eager ember
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Lmao

tender prism
grizzled gull
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oh bah, I thought that was something very different

tender prism
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So far everything is co-piliot...

tidal bronze
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@real frigate were you the one that switched from GA to Gemini and back?

forest edge
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No he was the one that thought Transformers One was a good movie, but reality is it sucked.

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I like how they edited hemsworth's voice at the end to make it sound more like the real optimus prime as if what we watched was optimus pre puberty

forest edge
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atomic delta
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Me who never sees ads: "?????"

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I haven't seen a subway ad since $5 footlongs were a thing.

hardy apex
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Ugh I hadn't seen ads in so long but now desktop discord plays them in embedded player

tidal bronze
crisp oriole
forest edge
tidal bronze
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Humidity too high? Looks like it's too muggy and you are confusing Louisiana with LA lol

forest edge
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you can see through high humidity, not smog lol

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probably why you can't handle humidity, water in the air is lighter than the pollution that blankets your city lol

atomic delta
tidal bronze
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This BT proxy thing is making me unhappy.

forest edge
tidal bronze
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Lol. This lock shit. BT proxy randomly stops responding until a restart.

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Why did I even bother with BT. Oh well

forest edge
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I never liked bluetooth stuff. it never works flawlessly

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I use BT headphones to listen to the TV at night while the woman is asleep and while it works fine most of the time, it just picks random times to be stupid.. like I have to repair to fix stupid

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and you can't ever be 100% sure which side is at fault.. the headphones or the tv

tidal bronze
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I have the same issue. I agree my Shield/TV is too far from the bed but still, channel sync issues, complete audio loss, what a nightmare

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I call the Spec BS

real frigate
sleek pecan
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Is there any difference or preference between calling an automation based on a button trigger or calling a script from a button? Seems like both would accomplish the samet hing.

static schooner
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you can't call an automation

real frigate
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Same thing, mostly. Might be a few milliseconds delay between the trigger on the automation versus the script from a tap_action. But, if you notice it, I'd be impressed.

sleek pecan
static schooner
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you should always write a script and call it rather than trying to trigger an automation

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buttons aren't triggers

real frigate
sleek pecan
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So either way works, I guess technically "calling" a script from a button press is the recommended approach it sounds like?

real frigate
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Yup

atomic delta
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Anyone ever seen the companion app just start lagging to hell, dropping formatting, etc? Rebooting HA just in case, but I doubt the root cause is there.

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Did a complete uninstall and reinstall and it's still borked.

static schooner
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sounds like cache

ocean oar
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A while back I had a buggy 3rd party frontend module that was leaking memory like a bastard

ocean oar
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(it was doing it on desktop too, so if loading HA in a browser eventually crashes the tab, you too might have a memory leak)

atomic delta
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Just got home, so I'll start trying to figure it out again.

ocean oar
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Bad update to "Android System Webwiew" perhaps? That's definitely happened once or twice in recent memory

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There were two releases yesterday and today; 130.0.6723.58 and 130.0.6723.60.
Working fine for me on .58 so if you have .60 perhaps something to look into?

weak musk
atomic delta
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Yeah, was about to open a topic there. I was hoping I'd find a solution quickly. Apparently not in the cards though.

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Uhhhh... I just tried pulling a logcat and it's magically fine again. Wtf.

dire cobalt
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Is there a way to disable buttons?

weak musk
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Physical buttons? Software buttons?

forest edge
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holy crap what a day

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cannot get past the last level

desert cave
agile jewel
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Where do I find channel related to smart lights/switches?

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No such tags in hardware nor related tech

clever mortar
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You don't need tags for everything

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(Discord doesn't support infinite tags anyway)

desert cave
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I think there's just a tag called Tag, if no tags match

clever mortar
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That was for HA's NFC tags 😉

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(which is why it was renamed)

desert cave
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Ooh okay, haha

crisp oriole
desert cave
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Haha yeeeees

wet briar
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Am I crazy or is today supposed to be beta day?

crisp oriole
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Prolly more assistant stuff that will break on my system.
3 assist endpoints are down since last month release

frigid mirage
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Does the voice expose entity section, work when you manually configure google assistant, or isn't only for nabu casa method?

clever mortar
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Only for UI configured integrations

frigid mirage
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Oh, so I need to expose the entities in the configuration file? I was wondering why nothing was syncing all this time 🤦‍♂️

crisp oriole
iron granite
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Hi Ready!

red rock
lone dagger
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I think it might be expensive…

static schooner
# lone dagger

I totally thought that was the bridge of a ship overlooking the water at first 🙂

lone dagger
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Hahaha

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They have things that float by. Here’s from yesterday’s keynote.

lone dagger
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Do you not know where we are?

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Lmao I am not going to tell you it’s the event in this server right now.

late schooner
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anyone her have experience with "SLZB-06M" or know which thread i'd have to check to get some info

clever mortar
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Explain the problem and somebody can help

late schooner
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done 🙂 I'll see what gives 🙂

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the whole SLZB vs its documentation is pretty labyrinth like or absent 🙂

crisp oriole
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Oh..

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I need to read better.

tidal bronze
static schooner
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Github Universe

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in SF

tidal bronze
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Oh SF. Wish I knew.

static schooner
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and it was in the Events

lone dagger
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😆

grizzled gull
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you ever want to type something but then second guess it....

atomic delta
static schooner
real frigate
lone dagger
forest edge
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Nerdcon 2024

crisp oriole
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If i die am i able to hunt my house using home assistant?

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When i had a psychoses i tought my pc was haunted.

That it sometimes typed out it self did not help.

ocean oar
forest edge
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ever see a duck without one?

crisp oriole
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I dont trust any with out a buthole.

deft pewter
crisp oriole
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Dont feed ducks bread btw. Its bad nutrition and makes the male ducks intrested in orgies. Some how oke in the 80ties but now we should know better.

ocean oar
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We've got a few that hang around the stream at the bottom of our property. They seem to like oats, which are supposed to be fine for them

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More than a few of the ducks have less than the full quota of legs, because apparently the big-ass eels in the stream think those are a tasty treat

desert cave
tidal bronze
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4th time...let's see how goes

forest edge
tidal bronze
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It helps with identity

forest edge
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"this is a plant. it is green."

tidal bronze
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Everytime I want tarragon, nothing at the store and plants are dead. 😕

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Need to add a 2nd rachio for veggies.

forest edge
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did you just pour a bag of miracle grow over the sand and plant in that?

tidal bronze
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Not needed.

weak musk
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Sonoma, you could always go to the big city and help the guy out you know

tidal bronze
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I wish I could offer him mashed potatoes and collard greens

forest edge
tidal bronze
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Seen anything cleaner and crispier than this?

forest edge
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pan the camera down to ground level lol

weak musk
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also, can I just say that with a name like SONOMA it baffles me that you don’t like california

forest edge
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that makes no sense

forest edge
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that dosen't mean anything lol

weak musk
tidal bronze
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Some of the best wine. Means everything

forest edge
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that state wanted to try and jack some of my class so they stole it

weak musk
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hahaha

tidal bronze
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Everytime I pick up a bottle......

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Sonoma wine driving a Subaru

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Can't get more Californian than that

forest edge
solar zealot
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its always those royals...

tidal bronze
weak musk
forest edge
weak musk
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I’ve always thought that would be a blast

tidal bronze
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They wouldn't know what to do with it.

forest edge
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sand is for younger people

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that video just looks like abroken hip to me

tidal bronze
forest edge
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speaking of the 80's.. like a double whammy for you.. a time when California was actually cool now forever gone

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now we have to like go to rio to get the same vibe

tidal bronze
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It's always cool and will be forever.

forest edge
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I didn't know you lip synced at karaoke's

tidal bronze
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Talking about music need to add 2 more subs to the backyard

forest edge
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not earthquakey enough back there for you yet?

tidal bronze
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I was checking today not enough bass coverage in 2 areas. 6 should do it.

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I should spend less time roaming in the backyard

forest edge
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your tarragon not feeling the beat?

tidal bronze
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That area is music free

forest edge
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poor plants.. have to suffer just listening to tweeter speakers

tidal bronze
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I had some DVC 8" in that area but moved them lol

forest edge
tidal bronze
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Adding the subs means 1 more 1200w class D, yikes

forest edge
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just make sure you have an adequate fence built to keep you in.. nothing worse than seeing senile old farts wander the neighborhood lost

tidal bronze
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Want to check out what FL is all about

forest edge
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wouldn't that be a fitting place for you to end up.. still think you should move to Texas

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move to the future

tidal bronze
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Me move, nopes. Ain't going to happen. Just want to see how the housing market would do. Not interested in TX at all. Too many of my close friends got burnt. Lesson learned

weak musk
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try spf100

tidal bronze
forest edge
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burnt how?

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you talking about rental properties

weak musk
tidal bronze
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I will stick to what's proven time and and again

forest edge
hollow glacier
forest edge
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nothing like digging sand pieces out of the crack of your ass for 20 minutes to seal in the experince

peak slate
tidal bronze
forest edge
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the racoons and possum have gone back to that same spot i had the food pan for two nights now after I had picked up lol

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reolink has had to have at least 4 different hardware specs 510 cameras over the last few years. drives me nut that the newer variations have animal detect but the older ones can't get it

tidal bronze
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Let them lick those.

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Need to sign up for TV

forest edge
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I wish I could get some kind of landline internet to the barn

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I would so setup a camera for 24/7 streaming to youtube lol

forest edge
serene shuttle
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Anyone track temps inside a freezer? Trying to find a solution that local only

static schooner
light osprey
serene shuttle
atomic nexus
# serene shuttle I made a thread in hardware about it. I'm planning the setup to be a Home Assist...

I've been running a Xiaomi LYWSD03MMC (sending bthome adverts using pvvx firmware and esphome proxies) in my freezer and an esp8266 with bmp280 in the fridge, as well as a pair of ds18b20's in the freezer (one on the coil, one free-air) for must be more than a year now and no problems. - wifi and bt both seem to make it out of the fridge ok (it's an older one, sheet-metal door panels etc). BMP280 did not very much enjoy being in the freezer, during defrost the condensation causes the humi part to offline, but the temp still worked. Seems OK in fridge, but it's a domestic situation with only 2 people most of the time - if the door were open more often I'd expect more reliability issues with the bmp280 copping condensation. ds18b20's have been rock-solid though.

finite charm
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2024-10-31 20:34:23.795 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.hassio.handler] Found incompatible HTTP option 'server_host'. Watchdog feature disabledHELP

distant junco
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There’s no support here - only chill.

finite charm
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i need help now

clever mortar
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And remove that incompatible option 😉

finite charm
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why can ii just just a fix

clever mortar
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  1. The error message tells you the problem
  2. I told you the fix
finite charm
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thank all fixed im less stressed now

fading surge
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Yo i am looking for some advice on how the switches / switch relay for light switches work, what happens if your network / ha is offline? i am hoping that the switch has a backup mode where when offline it switches to a "dumb mode" and just does the default toggle the light, i have tried researching online and seen that some more expensive / custom built ones have an option to do this but was wanting this as a standard, also any recommendations about whether to replace the switches or add relays?

clever mortar
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(also, don't put smart bulbs on switches)

fading surge
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i have all smart bulbs throughout the house, is this going to be an issue?

clever mortar
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Probably

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Depends on the bulbs

hollow glacier
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if your switches are controlled via home assistant, then how do you expect them to switch over to (not smart bulb mode) when they lose that connection to home assistant?

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what you can do is use the same protocol for light switch and bulb such as zigbee light switch (inovelli blue for example) and a hue bulb, and then use zigbee binding to pair them, so that every tap on up paddle turns the light on, regardless of home assistant. the downside here is there's no override from home assistant to do other automations with a single tap then.. the binding is gonna make that single tap turn the light on, always, no matter what hass does

fading surge
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Okay i see, that makes complete sense when i think about it, the issue is my partner is not as big of an adopter of the "smart home" as i am and constantly turns everything off at the wall meaning most cool automations do not work half the time :/

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Although the counter argument is my automations are quite simple and do not work perfectly so i can see why, maybe if i made it so seamless that it requires 0 interaction the mindset would change ig

silent doveBOT
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The Principle Of Least Astonishment means that things should work in an obvious way - don't expect that you can teach people to do things differently to how they've always done it

deft pewter
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What about when you have visitors? They shouldn't have to know how to 'use' your house.

strange crow
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Hi, is RPi zero 2 good for home assistant?

deft pewter
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It's a fun toy but I wouldn't use it for anything but experiments. For starters, you don't want to run HA off an SD card - they die frequently with all the reads and writes. An NUC would be better.

iron granite
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And 512MB of RAM isn't enough.

clever mortar
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There's a reason HAOS doesn't support it

crisp oriole
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I currently flashing a sd for my new pi 2 zero. Fun stuff but you most know what your doing.

deft pewter
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Flashing an SD isn't hard. Having your server die every time you need to flash a new one is just annoying. No point picking something so fragile.

crisp oriole
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Depends what your doing. I dont use much read write and use a ramdisk

crisp oriole
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I may be daft but i know what im doing.

crisp oriole
azure rock
grizzled gull
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@azure rock what do you wheel? We have a JLUR on 37's with a hodgepodge of lift stuff(evo control arms, synergy springs,fox shocks etc) and a JK with 35 similar hodgepodge

azure rock
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Personally I prefer CJ over JK for this, and EB over LB.

atomic beacon
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So happy for Paulus, the NC team and the HA community for their recognition by Github. This is truly a fun, exciting and vigorous community that I'm pleasedto be part of.

red rock
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yesterday was amazing watching the talk live

crisp oriole
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Happy Christmas everyone

static schooner
fathom sparrow
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I was really annoyed by all the 12 year olds in the chat talking about that other platform

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impatient fucks

red rock
static schooner
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HA has a history of DDOSing things 🙂

red rock
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Another great part about the stream

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the hot dog

fathom sparrow
vivid ore
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Not really looking for support, just wondering if anyone has any easier approaches than this.
I need to very quickly come up with a way to log 150f water temperatures in a tank for a week or so for concrete curing.
I'm thinking of using either a Govee or Inkbird BBQ thermometer over BLE. That sound like the ticket? If I could find a cheap generic BLE/Zigbee/Z-Wave/Whatever data logger that'd work great instead but I haven't been able to find such a thing.

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I'd build my own with some ESP shenanigans but I don't have time for that, gotta get something reliable within about a week.

static schooner
steady latch
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@real frigate is your valetudo vacuum still functioning?

real frigate
steady latch
real frigate
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Yeah… thinking about a Narwal actually.

steady latch
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did you ever set up the fancy map cards, etc?

tender prism
real frigate
real frigate
tender prism
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They average 1 ton...

real frigate
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I could probably eat that much sushi. Wait wut are we talking about again?

steady latch
real frigate
tender prism
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Ifyou have to tell a narwal to get a room, you have too many narwalls in your house.

steady latch
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not enough rooms?

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too many narwals? is that even possible?

real frigate
steady latch
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i mean, you'd need at least 2, to combat the loneliness

steady latch
forest edge
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@tidal bronze Got your gross soup bucket all ready to go for Halloween?

tender prism
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Soup? I thought that was if one of the little ones needed a potty break...

grizzled gull
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You know the best part about having 2 children who PC game is....

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I get new parts more often!

atomic delta
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Brb, having kids so I can harvest their parts. Wait, that came out wrong...

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I can't have kids anyway. I don't have room in my steam family library.

grizzled gull
quartz copper
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Didn't know where else to show this off, but cool automation I made with my car, smart lights and doorbell

grizzled gull
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its snowing here so I'm just going to sit at the end of the driveway and have a fire in a fire pit with a beer

fading surge
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anyone got any experience with ble and apple devices?

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i have it all set up on my phone and apple watch using irk and private ble device integration, but shows unknown unless i am physically using the device, i hoped maybe the apple watch would send out a periodic update to the phone or something but so far its fairly useless if i go into a room and sit down it has no idea i am there unless i tap my watch

fading surge
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i did a search for ble and apple watch ble and didnt find much in the server so put it here, i might be using discord wrong tho?

iron granite
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Just post your question there and someone with a good or less good idea might answer.

fading surge
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Ah i see okay thank you i have posted

steady latch
tidal bronze
forest edge
tidal bronze
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Not yet

forest edge
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your community probably does freaky stuff if it's most just adults lol

peak slate
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all the pineapples in the front yards

heavy turret
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I must confess I'm completely at a loss at the current structure of this discord. I'm having an issue with Shelly Devices and MQTT Integration and don't have a breeze of an idea on where to post that xD

worn plank
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I’m actually interested to know if there’s been any assessment of the new Discord structure?

heavy turret
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Well I was a bit torn between add-ons, hardware and integration xD find-a-channel honestly did more to confuse me than help me 😅

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Thanks anyways 👍

tidal bronze
iron granite
forest edge
tidal bronze
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Its the best thing you know right. The amount of people I encounter when I am out, do you honestly think I want to see any around when I'm home? 😆

forest edge
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what a hermit

serene shuttle
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Looks interesting, have you tried it? I will have to research this brand's rep

wraith temple
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Hey folks, can anyone suggest the quickest way to play a local file scream.mp3 on motion 😉
Ran out of time to research before Halloween
Sonos or google home?

atomic flame
iron granite
hardy apex
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😛

hardy apex
iron granite
crisp oriole
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cut it open -> does it bleed. [no] Yay you can fix it. [Yes] your in trouble.

iron granite
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Should it move, but doesn't: WD-40
Does it move, but shouldn't: duct tape

crisp oriole
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I rather use my meds when i have unwanted movements due to side affects

tepid condor
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Not sure if this is the right place for this, but is there any best practice people have discovered with regard to how to set up devices in HomeKit Bridge and not get duplicates with their native HomeKit integrations? I have devices that natively integrate to HomeKit (eg: Lutron/Hue/etc.) which I want to leave to their integration but also have them visible for status/etc. in HA.
Is the key to just set up HomeKit Bridge device-by-device instead of running it as a bridge since the categories could overlap between native HomeKit devices as well as desired integrations from HA? Or is there a way to just have it only port over devices tagged with a certain label? Thanks in advance!

coarse horizon
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So it's finally safe in here again? 😬

forest edge
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from molestation... never!

grizzled gull
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Grumble AAA game, from a billion dollar publisher, but run's like poo on top end hardware for no discerable reason

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well now I feel bad, its not EA, its stupid windows, runs buttery smooth on ultra in linux :/

forest edge
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thats not windows, that's the software

grizzled gull
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Whatever it is, just happy its playable

hardy apex
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having options is good :)

muted oak
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Anyone else's smart doorbells blow their phones up tonight with the trick or treaters 🤣

desert cave
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Set the trial camera back up in the backyard last night, July 18th, 2024, after a long break. This raccoon stole the show by untying an old rope in its path and tying it out of the way.

After asking the public for suggestions, I've named the clever raccoon Knottingham. Below is a link to Knottingham and two young friends/family members fiddling...

▶ Play video
weak musk
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What blogs/tech sites are people reading these days? I’m removing reddit from my life, pretty sick of the blatant AI posts.

forest edge
forest edge
velvet inlet
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Does home assistant work with Phillips smart wifi bulbs?

atomic delta
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Can scripts automatically trigger, or do you need an automation to trigger them?

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Haven't used scripts at all yet.

weak musk
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they are essentially the action part of an automation

atomic delta
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That's what I assumed, but I wanted to make sure

forest edge
atomic delta
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Not that it'd really matter if it checked the temperature too often.

velvet inlet
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ive got an expo on computer science next Tuesday so i have to order he bulb quick

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the*

deft grove
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Morning!

young sigil
low harness
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”Can… can I pick that? Really?”

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5 % of the trick-or-treaters picked the onion.

clever mortar
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We'd about 5% take apples over sweets

fathom sparrow
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and that's how you end up with random maleware running on your network

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"Lets get these cheap temp sensors"

fathom sparrow
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and that's how petros comments are irrelevant

red rock
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Although, I guess you also have bad zigbee devices that just take down networks by being noisy

real frigate
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Worse one (recently) was a Tuya mmWave sensor that was trying to send updates every 100ms to the mesh updating a stupid lux value. No matter what I did with debouncing in z2m and such, it would still just do what it wanted. I was SO happy to rip that thing out.

tidal vigil
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hello, i have a question and i have no ideea which is the right channel for this
i have followe this https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/google_assistant/#yaml-configuration, now i can see some devices on my google ho me app from android
my questions are

  • can't i also see there the input number?
  • can i usethe google assistant tts to trigger a home assistant automation? (like instead of typing in the home assistant chat box)
clever mortar
iron granite
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There’s no support here - only chill.

crisp oriole
polar citrus
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just hit 500 days of uptime on my ubiquiti router and AP

real frigate
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The USG was my favorite Unifi device (aside from the UDMP). I think I hit something like 400 days of uptime once and then a storm came along and took out the power longer than my UPS could go for. ablobsadrain

polar citrus
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yeah it would've been higher if a computer didn't short out 500 days ago lol

real frigate
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hahaha fair

polar citrus
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I wonder how long it will last though, I've lately noticed that a coil started whining

real frigate
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I did such horrible things to my USG though. When I first got fiber and deleted the ATT modem... oh man, that was fun. heh

real frigate
polar citrus
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I got this one in 2017

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so it's nearly 8 years old now

leaden heath
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What zigbee RBG lights do you guys like for your setup? I have some Heus, but they're starting to die/flicker so it might be time to replace soon.

clever mortar
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Hue, Innr, Gledopto, Tradfri

zealous aurora
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What’s everyone’s thought on this solar quote: $23,500 for 6.7kw solar and a Tesla power wall 3 battery?

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Solar is $2.03 per W

weak musk
desert cave
real frigate
desert cave
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Aaah fun, well good to know!

midnight adder
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To run a dashboard on a Raspberry PI, do you guys recommend raspberry pi os in a browser or LineageOS?

real frigate
midnight adder
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Pardon my ignorance, but does kiosk mode just mean F11? Or is there a way to make it full screen automatically?

static schooner
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  • FullyKiosk
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but that's for Android, I don't know what the equivalent would be for Linux

crisp oriole
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Xdotool a cli script can press F11

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qutebrowser can be configured to leave out the nav bar

hollow glacier
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kiosk mode just removes the url bar and other things to make it just show what's on the screen nothing else i think

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havent used that in years...

solar zealot
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Seems a bit too expensive

zealous aurora
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I believe so

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They were the cheapest quote

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Also it’s 23k now because of power wall shipping delays

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So they are cutting a discount

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All the other quotes were 28-30k

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Keep in mind this is socal pricing

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Actually power wall was 9500 per quote now that I’m looking at it

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Other vendor I was considering (before they suggested I commit tax fraud for the solar rebate) wanted to charge 13k for the pw3

forest edge
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gotta be careful with that. i've read articles and there are even YT videos on people who got hosed taking the lowest bid on a solar install

static schooner
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They all seem to go out of business or get acquired, too

thick wave
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Can someone please help me get nest integrated? I have followed the documentation about 10 times and can not get it going. I am able to get it to authenticate but devices are not showing up. I have tried restarting the nest, moving it to a different/fake room. The API looks like it is active. I am not sure where to go from here

static schooner
forest edge
#

if you are planning to go heavy with the google stuff.. just do nabu.. in the long run it so much less annoying

#

I haven't even checked mine to see if it still works lol

pure tusk
#

Is there a frigate addon discord?

iron granite
#

No.

#

They don't have an own Discord.

pure tusk
#

Sad. Wanted to say im thankful and happy with the new beta search feature. But you know with threads......

#

Honestly home assistant has a forum already, i find it on this discord sad.

iron granite
#

I don't understand, what that has to do with Frigate not setting up their own Discord and relying on others for support outside of GitHub. Whatever. shksShrug

lone dagger
#

Oh I have a great emoji for that.

forest edge
#

welcome to your legacy lol

lone dagger
#

😆

#

You’re not wrong.

#

I did get several compliments on it in person while at GitHub Universe, though!

forest edge
#

do people complain in person tho?

lone dagger
#

They complained about problems they had in HA itself, so probably.

forest edge
#

yea but that isn't like directed

lone dagger
#

A LOT of people said they’ve not updated in months.

forest edge
#

I don't think people complain directly in person anymore.. well younger people.. us older people have no issues lol

lone dagger
#

I think one person did say they weren’t a fan of the forums style while at the meet up, but Discord also isn’t their favorite platform.

forest edge
lone dagger
#

That’s great, though, right? Don’t HAVE to update to keep things working.

forest edge
#

well the downside is falling behind breaking changes

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and since those are only listed on the blog.. one would have to do some back research just to ensure they weren't down for x amount of time due to something they had no clue about

#

HA need to just hurry up and figure out an auto update method that can't break anything lol

iron granite
#

That would be boring. No Alexa Media Player drama and so on.

atomic delta
#

Welp, I bought more tuya devices because they were cheap and surprised pikachu'd when they weren't perfect.

forest edge
#

rotf

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that video is so funny yet so scary

#

the channel that posted that video is an idiot but that video was funny

atomic delta
#

Lol, I see how it is

crisp oriole
crisp oriole
atomic delta
#

I'm keeping my HA stuff to zigbee and Zwave only (barring obvious exceptions like smart TVs). I don't want smart devices junking up my IP assignments.

crisp oriole
#

if you can count some online racoon as friend

#

then you gonna hate matter, kick me elmo

atomic delta
#

Yup :P

atomic delta
#

I don't trust smart devices on Wi-Fi anyway tbh. I need to move my hue stuff over to ZHA so I can remove the hub.

forest edge
#

wut

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just don't buy tuya wifi lol

crisp oriole
#

doesnt help Sono. tuya has many diffrent brand names

forest edge
#

you can always tell if it's tuya before you buy lol

atomic delta
#

I mean, my latest purchase was smart plugs. Was hoping 20A rating meant they wouldn't heat up at all when in use, but no such luck.

#

But I knew I was buying Tuya. I made that choice consciously.

forest edge
atomic delta
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Brand name was Tuya :P

forest edge
#

I don't think i've seen a 20amp smart plug

atomic delta
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I got two.

forest edge
#

you shouldn't be plugging crap that needs over 15amp in into one regardless

crisp oriole
#

oh. 120volt right? nothing scarry you peeps are doing?

atomic delta
#

I mean, technically I'm only running around five amps right now. But that heater goes up to 1850W, so I figured a safety net would be good in case someone switched it to high by mistake.

forest edge
#

I run an window ac during summer and a space heater during winter off one without issue and the 1500w rating is the suggested cap for a standard 15amp house breaker anyways

ocean oar
#

The temperature graph from the Shelly mini that I installed for the path lights is funny.
Doubt the lights are more than about 0.75A total, so I'd imagine the relay's coil is doing most of the heating.

forest edge
#

thats internal temp

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spikes when under load

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or when the space around the unit collects heat

ocean oar
#

It's fairly tightly packed into a plastic junction box in the crawl space under the house

#

I'm not entirely sure why they bother showing you the temperature, but hey, silly shark fin graph 😛

forest edge
#

well they do have temp limits

#

maybe to make sure the thing isn't going to burn up.. dunno

#

most likely just an added gimmick to make the sale sound better

ocean oar
#

Probably

inner lava
#

Does anyone know if there's (maybe via HACS) something that makes automation creation a bit faster and "more assisted"?
I thought something along the lines of "choose a device > press a button > ask what the button should do" and so on.

iron granite
#

That's called Blueprints

keen bridge
#

And the automation UI does that to an extent. But use entities not devices, it'll save you a world of hurt later.

inner lava
forest edge
#

tiktok should die in a fire

crisp oriole
atomic delta
#

Just realized I may be hard-pressed to fit a 120vac-3.3vdc converter in a single-gang wall switch box with everything else...

forest edge
#

you shouldn't do that anyways

atomic delta
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Why?

forest edge
#

they generate heat

atomic delta
#

Yeah, but what is the alternative if I want to slap a z-wave chip into such a box?

crisp oriole
#

Make sure the heat can go somewhere

forest edge
#

you are going to have to elaborate more. why in a single gang box?

#

shared with what? a switch?

atomic delta
forest edge
#

just a relay?

atomic delta
#

I mean, I could always toss a two AA battery caddy in there instead, but that's not small either and batteries suck.

forest edge
#

why not just buy a zwave switch

atomic delta
atomic delta
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Could always widen the box if I have to, but I'd rather not if I can avoid it.

forest edge
#

sounds like maybe you might need to put in a double.. BUT I believe there are zwave modules much like how the shellies are, there might even be a double version like the shelly 2

#

those modules are designed to go in behind a physical switch, even the double horizontal switches

atomic delta
#

Main reason I'd rather not widen the box is because we have three swamp coolers, one switch is in an inconvenient spot and one is in an outside wall.

#

Only one is where it'd be convenient to do.

forest edge
#

not sure if the dimmer portion has options or not

atomic delta
#

...thanks Amazon. Just crash out of that link why don't you.

#

The concept is good, but that really wouldn't do the job.

#

I'm setting this up in part for my parents, who're both 79. Part of the requirements is that I need to be able to switch control between manual and automatic. I just figured I'd add a button to toggle a software switch and use that as a condition in the automation. Then we can just switch it to manual during the winter months when the coolers are drained and covered, and switch back to automatic for the summer when the coolers are set up again.

forest edge
#

how does that not work?

atomic delta
#

I mean, I could try to do everything through HA, but my father in particular would get frustrated and end up turning off my pihole by mistake or something.

forest edge
#

yes

#

you can make it be auto or manual whenever using HA lol

atomic delta
# forest edge how does that not work?

How does it work? It needs to be able to toggle the pump and switch the fan between three states (including off). The dimming could cause serious problems, and I don't see any way to rig up the dual-state motor.

forest edge
#

yea the dimming is what I wasn't sure about. does the motor use seperate leads for high/low etc?

atomic delta
#

Yes

forest edge
#

both are always on at same time right? the fan and pump?

atomic delta
#

It's a standard swamp cooler, which means it's normally controlled by this:

#

And no, pump and fan need to be controllable individually.

#

The vent options are pump off, the cool options are pump on.

#

That's the typical switch. The only "smart" one I found is a headache and a half and requires running extra wiring to the coolers.

forest edge
#

does the switch between the pump being in high or low need to be automated?

atomic delta
#

I have no idea what you're asking.

forest edge
#

oh its the fan that has a high and low

atomic delta
#

Yes

forest edge
#

does that need to be automated? switching between high and low? or can just on or off be ok?

atomic delta
#

These are very simple systems. There's a block of cardboard-like media, a pump to saturate it with water, and a fan to pull air through it.

atomic delta
#

I was planning on automating it based on forecast.

forest edge
#

so it "has" to be automated or can the switching between high and low be manual?

atomic delta
#

It -could- not be smart at all. But it -should- be automated. If I'm going to do this, stopping halfway sucks.

forest edge
#

your putting yourself in a bind being locked to a single gang box BUT you can use a 3 way physical switch to swap between low and high and use a zwave double module behind the switch to operate power to the 3 way switch and to the pump

ocean oar
#

Is the fan a kind where you have to supply power to only low or high and it gets angry if you do both, or if you power both does it just run on high?

atomic delta
forest edge
atomic delta
#

Yeah, that was my assumption.

forest edge
#

my attic fan motor looks like the same wiring as what kick posted. i use a 3 way switch to swap between low and high mode on it

atomic delta
#

Not that it matters much, but this is what I mean by "fan" by the way:

forest edge
#

what I posted above should work

#

in a single gang

#

BUT you do lose out automating swapping between low and high

#

however

#

you could use a smart 3 way switch lol

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and a module behind it

#

that be super tight tho, since smart switches are usually thicker

#

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jaunty breach
#

homeassistant likes mqtt right? mosquitto or emqx?

hardy apex
#

🤷

jaunty breach
#

interesting. wonder what the challenge was

forest edge
#

not tried emqx but I use mosquitto all the time without issue

#

wtf the tesla doorlocks and other things are powered off a seperate 12v battery. i didn't know that

static schooner
jaunty breach
forest edge
#

i'm waiting for the fully automatic with rotating brushes model myself

static schooner
#

It was really buggy and unstable

static schooner
#

It was funny to see him squeeze through the opening, though

forest edge
#

we currently have one of those arch brush things and the cats love to "self sooth" on it all the time

#

it removing access hair is just a bonus lol

desert cave
solar zealot
#

Yes the feature of not having a key

#

Not like they'd get far if they try to steal it :^)

vital stratus
#

-Hey all. Not sure what Support channel this falls under or if this is a RPi Community question.
-Since I installed Home Assistant OS via the Pi Imager I can't seem to gain access to the RPi4 itself via SSH.
-I've tried the SSH plugin via HAOS and Putty on my PC. Connection Refused which means, to me at least, I'm on the right ip/port being it was not a refused reply.

I've searched quite a bit but to no avail.

distant junco
vital stratus
#

Will Do - TY @distant junco !

forest edge
#

almost commented to that but then i'd be just as bad as everyone else in this channel..

distant junco
#

Please elaborate.

forest edge
#

answering a support question to get lost

#

being as the question asked was really only semi HA related but more so pi

agile jewel
#

What software are you guys using for phone gallery backups? Photoprism, nextcloud, combination? Would love to have shared albums with family.

solar zealot
#

immich

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But so far pretty much any is somewhat of a disappointment

#

Once you have large enough libraries the apps struggle a lot to figure out updates

crisp oriole
#

Im slowing using nextcloud. But i dont know if you easily can create a photo album

solar zealot
#

They can't build ocis fast enough for how much this is needed GUOBAWHIP

agile jewel
#

Looks like immich is the easiest one to use. I can't see my grandma navigating through nextcloud... So should I run immich for photos only, then nextcloud for everything else and disabling the nextcloud photo integration as to not confuse everyone including me?

solar zealot
#

It's pretty great in that but it's not anywhere close to being complete

#

If you are trying to use it as if you would use onedrive with a lot of files it's definitely worth looking at

crisp oriole
#

oh nextcloud phots is acutally quite nice.

#

going to download my google photos. and also put those on my nas

distant junco
agile jewel
#

I remember setting up owncloud like 10 years ago. Then I abandoned it and 3 years ago when I came back to set up something similar, suddenly owncloud = bad so installed nextcloud. And now owncloud good again?

agile jewel
eternal yew
knotty fog
solar zealot
static schooner
#

NABU, one of the country’s largest and best known conservation societies, says that hunting them is not the solution.

#

I sense a conspiracy

#

putting the face of the thing you're eating on the thing is a little...weird

crisp oriole
#

If you cant beat it eat it

static schooner
#

maybe @forest edge should hang one of those on the camera that keeps being licked as a warning

#

Your face here

#

I had no idea they were so big:

The animals, who are originally from North America, typically weigh around 10 kilograms (22 pounds), but large males can reach 20 kilograms (44 pounds).

low harness
#

I just finished Mega Man Legends. What should I play next?

sturdy sphinx
#

gotta say after having experienced some non optimised software for other stuff, HA's touchscreen support even on the web browser is pretty top notch

#

I dont even use my trackpad anymore, just touch and keyboard

#

👍

forest edge
mild grail
#

omg guys I'm going crazy. Every saturday somewhere between 12:40pm and 1pm my kitchen lights shut off. I have no idea why. The HA logbook just says it was turned off. No indication why. The TP Link app shows nothing. No automations set up in alexa

#

I cannot figure this out

red rock
#

Be sure to check your automations

coarse horizon
#

I had a bunch of Matter devices go offline. They came back when I restarted the devices.

#

But it's funny how I needed to test the automation with those devices many times to get them to work correctly again.

#

It's like they needed practice to get back in sync or something like that.

last cedar
static schooner
crisp oriole
low harness
hardy apex
#

That should decide what state the plug returns to after it loses power at the wall

young sigil
#

Read the channel topic. No support here, just chill.

shrewd oasis
#

Hello everyone. I’m remodeling and currently have very little devices, mostly wifi. I can change protocols at this point and was wondering if I should change to something else. What is recommended? What has a good price?

shrewd oasis
#

What?

weak musk
#

Ask your question in related tech. This is not a support channel

shrewd oasis
#

Ok. This server has changed a lot since it first started…

weak musk
#

Yep sure has!

hardy apex
#

but that would be too straightforward

weak musk
atomic delta
young sigil
#

Then you will be offered a cup of concrete. To harden the fuck up.

forest edge
static schooner
serene shuttle
#

Who wants to run a local AI with camera feeds who can tell you what's going on in natural language? I let some (relatives) teens use my back yard and one threw gasoline on a fire pit. I'd love to have a local mutimodal AI that told me things were going south fast

#

This kind of thing isn't very far away? Bet a 5090 could run it

tender prism
#

There's an addon for that...

#

At least to tell you about still photos.

serene shuttle
tender prism
#

I guess it's an integration, not an addon./

serene shuttle
#

Sure, I figured you'd need to run a separate local server with an open source model and a high end GPU

tender prism
#

I've seen people tying it to their doorbell and it telling them it was UPS or Amazon or something else happening.

#

But if you have a gaming PC, it can't always be busy, right? I have ollama set-up.

serene shuttle
#

What do you use that for?

forest edge
#

doesn't the frigate beta 15 have that built in it?

serene shuttle
#

My ideal setup is a fully separate NAS with about 70TB of storage, a HA on dedicated hardware, and a homelab server with whatever I need to run local AI models. It ain't gonna make me lag when I'm in a raid

#

We guys in this discord are gonna have local AIs doing complex tasks for us in 5 years

tender prism
serene shuttle
#

Is this our future on an anonymous Discord?

forest edge
#

?

#

spam bots on discord are already ai driven

serene shuttle
forest edge
#

they pop in any discord server

serene shuttle
dusky plank
#

I don‘t have high end gpu

#

Who needs that

real frigate
real frigate
slim dragon
#

hello
I am an ex-programmer but very new to home automation
I wanna know a few things, idk if there's a channel for this so i'll just ask here

  • Assuming I dont get Home assistant yellow, do i need a Zigbee dongle if the devices can connect via bluetooth/wifi?
  • What is the best human presence detector according to you guys, suggest a budget friendly one and absolute best one please
  • What hardware will I need extra to run home assistant on a raspberry pi 4? I have read about home assistant yellow and green but I think just a raspberry pi 4 will be cheaper and will do basically same thing unless something extra is needed
sleek pecan
#

Having a hard time figuring out this flow. I want to have 3 buttons to cast various dashboards of cameras. However, I'd like to change the icon based on whether or not it's currently casting, as well as stop casting if I click on the button again.

I have scripts set up to cast the individual dashboards so that part is done, but I'm stuck on the icons based on state and the stop-on-button-push. Not sure if using an input_select is approprtiate here or some other way of updating state and calling different services. Thank you

dire cobalt
static schooner
#

New labels in Frigate 0.15:

Animals: horse, bird, raccoon, fox, bear, cow, squirrel, goat, rabbit
🎉

crisp oriole
#

No difference between a black and a brown bears

#

Is #1284965988642590891 a good point for some strange background changing in a theme does not work because the image is cashed. Reboot restart reload does not work.

Or is this #beta?

red rock
#

why would it be beta

near reef
#

Any recs for zigbee outlets? will prob buy the third reality ones

static schooner
last cedar
#

@clear ferry I checked your balls earlier today, they are holding up really nicely.

And for everyone else, this is far more amusing if I don't give context 🤣

low harness
#

You said "atx". That's enough context for sensible people to know not to ask more.

keen bridge
#

I have so many questions but I am not going to ask them.

crisp oriole
#

Dont know if beta touched it. Anyway to tired now.

red rock
last cedar
#

His balls are great

last cedar
#

Exactly this

crisp oriole
red rock
crisp oriole
#

my new roaming laptop. stream hp 4 gig with zram some celleron and very small harddisk. but the battery is great.

crisp oriole
#

tired going home. drink a beer go to bed.

red rock
#

There is a list of all changes, but they only contain the title

frozen fulcrum
#

any news on the rumored speaker from home assistant..?

blissful zodiac
#

Finally, AD with Fedora Workstations.

young sigil
frozen fulcrum
#

can't wait to finally get rid of my google mini speakers.

forest edge
#

what I don't like about the reolink duo 2

fair pulsar
#

Hello! One of the things I have been trying to do with my instance is create a Dungeons and Dragons room controller! As I add more and more scenes, my automations are getting very complicated and difficult to replicate (16 Lights, Screen, Audio, and Google Home for Sound Effects). What I want to do is create an add-on for the community that lets you create games in a room. DnD, Family Feud, etc is what I was thinking. It would be a more in depth version of Philips Hue entertainment zones and what you can do with them. I was looking for feasibility and feedback on the idea of this project before I take a swing at it (Who knows maybe people prefer their large automations for this kind of thing). Thanks!

forest edge
#

If one person finds a need for something, there will surely be others. That's just the fact of things so if this is something you want to create for yourself and hope others will find use out of as well, rest assured others will.

fair pulsar
#

I imagine it working somewhat like the alarmo add-on. Adding in lights, screens, and speakers to a "room" and then using actions on when said room will trigger, and when the sound effects will become options on a dashboard. Does this seem like the right way to go or should this be more of a blueprint or something else?

forest edge
#

Noone can really answer that. This is a project in your head and it can be as simple or as complex as you want it to be. Some of the "integrations/addons" that get made for HA grow quite large and have people helping contributes etc etc.

#

There really is no limit what you could have an addon for this purpose do.

forest edge
#

many plug in type zigbee devices can act as routers however not all lights can, you will have to make sure whatever your looking at can. also while the idea of "routing" to extend zigbee coverage sounds great on paper, it is not always so simple. routing devices range and performance can range all over the place and devices that have to connect to them can sometimes be spotty

#

why they always recommend putting the coordinator in the very middle of a mesh

#

depends what materials and interferences the signal has to overcome

clear ferry
forest edge
#

weird

#

the slotted and castle nut are the same

#

that prevailing torque lock nut is the only one I've never used

verbal olive
#

I am in the weird position of probably going to call ahead to a hotel and ask them if I can temporarily swap out their light bulbs in a room

forest edge
#

for what purpose

verbal olive
#

group managed to secure a suite at a party con

#

friend of mine wants to DJ a room party

#

wanted to see what I could do for lighting for that

forest edge
#

if you rented the room, why do you have to ask? why not just swap them out when you get there?

verbal olive
#

friend is worried hotel will get angry

forest edge
#

as long as you put the ones you took out back when you leave

verbal olive
#

That's my thoughts

#

though technically, I'd probably want to know what kind of bulbs are used

#

would be pretty stupid to show up with the wrong kinds

#

I initially though HA would be a good fit, but he has a DMX controller

#

that's probably going to be the better option

#

can use Art-Net

forest edge
#

you could always call and ask but that would be a weird conversation. Hotels/Motels are in to make money which means they use readily available cheap replaceable fixtures etc. I dunno what country you are in but here in the US every hotel i've ever been in has been the traditional screw in light bulb. once in awhile you might see a florecent tube in like a bathroom

verbal olive
#

Suites usually get a bit more complicated

#

they're nicer, bigger rooms

tidal bronze
#

Change lights in a hotel room huh? 🤣

desert cave
forest edge
tidal bronze
#

Lol. A19 are rare now.

#

Lighting improved a lot in the last 3 to 5 years

forest edge
tidal bronze
#

Even here. Other than some fancy ornamental fixture with Edison vibe most lighting is embedded.

China was next level 10 years ago. US hotel lighting needs some TLC for sure. 😆

forest edge
#

that's a stupid move imo

tidal bronze
#

Definitely easy on the eyes and uniform.

forest edge
#

but costs more to replace assuming it could be replaced with exact part

#

even incandescent lights were more recycable than the led ones lol

solar zealot
#

ah yes trustworthy multi functional space heaters

tidal bronze
#

I am tired of Amazon A19 range, completely useless

forest edge
solar zealot
#

Not having that warmth is killing the mood of everyone which is why society is going mad!!!!!1111 PES_TinFoilHat

forest edge
solar zealot
#

Thank you for joining my ted talk

tidal bronze
forest edge
tidal bronze
#

Bulbs

#

Is it humid down there?

forest edge
#

you are not making a whole lot of sense.. you mean your just tired of bulbs? want everything to be strips?

tidal bronze
#

So when you hear A19 you automatically lean to fixtures? Middle earth is strange

forest edge
#

wtf does a19 base mean then?

#

and if you are refering to the actual bulbs, wtf did you mean by range? which was my very first question lmao

tidal bronze
#

Looks like things confuse you a lot and that frustrates you eh

#

Turn on that dehumidifier

forest edge
#

your as bad as that guy who says "that one" and point in a general direction of a wall full of shit

tidal bronze
#

Yep, that's the one

forest edge
tidal bronze
#

A19?

forest edge
#

yup

solar zealot
#

Is this a regular sized cylinder

tidal bronze
#

Range?

forest edge
#

about that much

solar zealot
#

a couple meters depending on how much you throw it

tidal bronze
#

Perfect

#

Thread CW?

forest edge
#

do they even make bulbs that aren't CW?

tidal bronze
#

Checking what's available in the spectrum

forest edge
#

is that what you meant by range? the color range?

#

how is an led bulb any diffrent than an led strip? lol

#

other than you can easily replace the bulb

tidal bronze
#

I need to try Phillips bulbs.

forest edge
#

ah.. you been buying the @clear ferry norwat special and got tired of the pastels lmao

tidal bronze
#

Pastel?

forest edge
#

you don't remember his christmas lights?

tidal bronze
#

Oh lmao. Yep.

forest edge
#

house looked like he was throwing a baby shower complete with a huge lit up penguin

smoky inlet
#

Where should i post about a frontend issue that im experiencing that is not a dashboard issue?

smoky inlet
#

thanks @forest edge

#

(if it covers all, should it perhaps be renamed?)

forest edge
#

think they were renamed to make it easier for newer people to easier find for the more common issues that come up

smoky inlet
#

fair enough :)

iron granite
crisp oriole
#

Argg. I hate linkedin recruiters

#

I have it made it as clear as possible that i can only work parttime. (In my title in my info. Eveywhere) Now some indian recruiter did not say it was parttime or fulltime. For like 6 messages.

verbal olive
#

whoa, woke up to all this

tidal bronze
#

Can't disagree

rapid musk
#

Is anyone in here decent at coding and webhooks/writing integrations? I just have a guy who got under my skin a bit on instagram and am curious what it would take to do what he’s doing, but open source free instead of charging a subscription to people…

forest edge
gentle merlin
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Does anyone use HA for task management? I’ve been looking for ideas and examples

weak musk
forest edge
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anyone use the third reality zigbee bulbs?

weak musk
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No

forest edge
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amazon is doing 4 for 30 bucks which is decent

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my current bulbs which are wifi was 3 for 25

weak musk
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I know their other stuff is pretty good. May be worth taking a flyer on them

forest edge
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they no longer sell them so I gotta switch to something. thinking of switching to zigbee

weak musk
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Code in progress always recommends wiz, but I think that’s WiFi?

forest edge
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yea looks like wiz is wifi

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3 bucks more for a 4 pack of those

solar zealot
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Jira Assistant :P

forest edge
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with this one exception of thirdreality on average zigbee bulbs are like way more over wifi ones

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it's crazy

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I do like the majority I see all have the matter stamp

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not that I would use matter but still

weak musk
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The only other zigbee ones I’ve seen are hue. I had a couple zwave bulbs back in the day that sucked

forest edge
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not really. there is nothing support about this

weak musk
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There is a recommendation tag

forest edge
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how can you recommend something you never used?

weak musk
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🙃

forest edge
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I went ahead and bought the TR ones. so i'll know for next time if they are shit or not lol

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I have TR plugs and a tilt sensor and those work just fine so color range and brightness will be the deciding factor on if these are shit

weak musk
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Makes sense

solar zealot
forest edge
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is that how they do it in your part of the world?

cyan nimbus
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im getting this error ERROR (SyncWorker_1) [homeassistant.util.package] Unable to install package pyotp==2.8.0: error: Failed to fetch: https://wheels.home-assistant.io/musllinux-index/pyotp/
not sure what it is from any ideas?

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if i hit that url it seems it exists

clever mortar
forest edge
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method: forced / hardware: potato

fickle delta
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Does anyone know of top of their head how to make "sensor.processor_use" and similar sensor being availalbe? I tried to copy the HA part of this snippet (https://community.home-assistant.io/t/system-monitoring-how-does-yours-look/109713/1071) but I have no idea how to make those sensors to be availalbe.

clever mortar
next axle
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I genuinely don't know where to ask this. This feels like such a basic question yet I am completely lost.
I have been using HA OS for a few months now, configuring stuff via the UI. Now I want to look into the YAML config files, make things declarative, put it in a git repo etc.
But I cannot for the life of me find the configuration for most of the addons I have installed.
For example I see the config files for zigbee2mqtt and glances, but not wireguard, influxdb, and others.
Where should I look? Where should I ask these questions?

crisp oriole
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  - platform: command_line
    switches:
      kali_vm:
        command_on: "/config/bin/virsh.sh start kali"
        command_off: "/config/bin/virsh.sh shutdown kali"
        command_state: "/config/bin/virsh.sh list --all | grep kali | grep -q 'running'"
        value_template: "{{ value == 'running' }}"
        friendly_name: "Kali VM"```
since i only have one VM that is turned of default i dont need a whole libvirt integration. reverting to cli
fathom sparrow
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Typically you configure things via configuration.yaml or the UI. They never reside in both places

crisp oriole
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stupid chatgtp and outdated syntax

fathom sparrow
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And addon configurations are buried inside an addons directory on the OS that's not accessible unless you know what you're doing.

next axle
fathom sparrow
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Just make backups

next axle
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How could I work on moving my configuration to configuration.yaml?

fathom sparrow
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you can't move everything into configuration.yaml and you can't move addon configs into configuration.yaml

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Use the built in backup system

next axle
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Okay

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So I'm a little confused now, all the guides I see people configuring YAMLs, I just struggle to figure out where that YAML resides

fathom sparrow
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that's inside configuration.yaml

next axle
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But that is not addon configuration

fathom sparrow
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addon configurations are not inside configuration.yaml, they never have been

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they never have been editable outside the UI either

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so I'm not sure where you're seeing people editing those configs via yaml

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There's an option in the UI that allows you to view the addon config as yaml

next axle
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I perhaps naively assumed that because you can view the addon config as YAML in the UI it would also be editable as such on the filesystem 😅

inner storm
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is there any way to overwrite the state text in dashboards? I have a bunch of doors and want them to list Open/Closed instead of On/Off, but no matter what I do in my raw yaml I don't seem to be able to replace this unless I write custom templates per door in configuration.yaml which seems like a very unclean solution to my problem

static schooner
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The answer will be device_class, bit you didn't say where these door sensors came from.

clever mortar
inner storm
inner storm
iron granite
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Those are the old channels.
The new ones are forum style. If you cannot see them, go to id:customize and select them to be shown. There is also #find-support for further guidance.

inner storm
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in the entity card the sensor would show Open and Closed, so I'm a little baffled that the state in dashboards is forcing it to on/off

inner storm
iron granite
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This isn't a support channel. The support forum channels are meant for that. Or for short questions, the #the-workshop channel can be used.

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There’s no support here - only chill.

inner storm
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device_class is set to Window... so it should report state as Open, interesting...

clever mortar
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For stock cards anyway

static schooner
tiny jackal
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Man, I’m looking at the Support channels and everybody’s problems are so advanced, I’m just just starting out with Home Assistant and I am so lost with so many different issues and I don’t know anybody that uses Home Assistant so I’m not sure if this is a problem because I am blind and using voice over to access Home Assistant or if it is Just me doing things wrong

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Like as an example, I have three cameras from aqara and I can’t even figure out how to get them to show up in Home Assistant. The only thing I can find to add the devices is either a matter device or a Zigby device, but these cameras are neither.

iron granite
fading surge
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I want to start a project, create my own esp32 smart photo frame, but i want to use an existing photo frame, any recommendations on a 7x5 / 9x7 lcd display that integrates with esp32 natively?

tiny jackal
iron granite
fading surge
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Yeah i tried there first but its so inactive that i don't think i will get a response, its just overwhelming for me

iron granite
iron granite
# tiny jackal I guess, it’s just so hard for me, like I said, not knowing if it’s just somethi...

In your case I would start in the #1284966353798697001 channel with the "Cameras" and "New to HA" tags to get advice on how to integrate them in Home Assistant. If you need help with the specific integration, the #1284966582375813201 channel can help. And if you need help to get the integrated cameras on your dashboard, the channel #1284965988642590891 can be helpful to you.
As I said, don't hesitate to ask. Not everything is as obvious for beginners as it looks to more advanced users.

inner storm
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when you have a sensor, is there any way in home assistant to list all the possible states it can report or is home assistant blind to what these can be?

red rock
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Depends on the integration and entity

crisp oriole
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eumm. what is a good method. when you want to share a very limited dashboard of hass to someone?

clever mortar
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Depends on how much you trust them 😛

crisp oriole
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Its a 9 year old who wants to be a hacker. i have a kali setup. but it takes quite some ram on my server so i want it off when not used.

vestal sleet
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It's curious to me how you can barely interact with scenes before you end up activating them. I was renaming some scenes to make it easier to find and lights were just coming and going all over the house. 😂

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Wife was solidly confused. 😅

solar zealot
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Have a secondary ha instance and send all the data and interaction over mqtt

vestal sleet
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I mean ... that is in the spirit of doing twice the work to do simple things ...

solar zealot
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If you love homeassistant that much you gotta do it twice!

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Or something

steel wadi
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do outdoor-rated zigbee smart plugs not exist? only one i've found is Embrighten and their amazon page is confusing but pretty sure it's out of stock https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08429W9B5

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or alternately how dangerous is it to use an indoor-rated one outdoors? it would be under cover so no direct rainfall but it can get as cold as -10 C

clever mortar
steel wadi
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there are tons of google results for people looking for the same thing - pretty sure it doesn't exist

distant junco
tacit smelt
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Must say. Not a fan of the new channel styles. So much harder to find stuff

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Also a load less engaging I feel like

steel wadi
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looks like LEDVANCE is the other option

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wonder if they're available in canada with north american plugs

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definitely seems like an underserved market regardless

cyan nimbus
# tacit smelt Also a load less engaging I feel like

I thought the community died when I came in here. Is there another channel that just talks about HA and General Support?
Also the water cooler sounds like I'm at work or something in my house which feels icky.

distant junco
lone dagger
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Every channel has a description for what it is. And several of the people who help in this server will tell you they enjoy the changes. 🙂

cyan nimbus
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Ok well where do people generally talk day to day about HA as it doesn't seem like this is the channel. I've never seen moments go by where nothing is being said about something. So I am a little shell shocked.

lone dagger
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Should he have gone into #the-workshop? Yes! That's where hardware side chats are.

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There is a space for everything. The biggest change is that it's not in one single channel.

cyan nimbus
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I guess the separation makes it look less active

static schooner
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the important part is that you get what you want out of it, not necessarily how it looks

vestal sleet
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Those always go in support channels

static schooner
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that's true, on purpose

vestal sleet
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I know

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But it is exactly what is missing from before

lone dagger
lone dagger
vestal sleet
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Yeah, like I said, I know.

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But it's false to say that there's a space for everything.

lone dagger
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It ain't coming back, dunno what to tell y'all.

vestal sleet
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Because that is one facet that was entirely axed from before.

lone dagger
vestal sleet
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A place to idly chat about things that I might have problems with. 😄

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I'm being annoying on purpose, sorry.

lone dagger
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If you have a support problem, just find the right channel.

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It's super simple.

vestal sleet
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Not channel

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Forum

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Very different

lone dagger
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They are forum channels.

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You are way more likely to get individualized help in a forum channel than posting in here and watching chat move by.

vestal sleet
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That's not what I'm asking about though

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I know when to ask for support.

static schooner
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Some people might just flood the channel with raccoon pics

lone dagger
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You are asking a very obtuse question that has no answer unless there is a specific scenario.

vestal sleet
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Other times I might just inquire about something, see if someone happens to have had a similar situation, and chat about it a bit.

lone dagger
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What is your scenario?

static schooner
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make your own "channel" for that by posting somethign in the appropriate channel

steel wadi
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I have posted several threads in the hardware thing and am patiently waiting for replies to roll in

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would my question have been on-topic in the workshop?

lone dagger
vestal sleet
# lone dagger What is your scenario?

Lets say I've been toying around with something, and it gave me a bit of issues. So I'll mention these issues, just to chat/vent a bit, since I'm not at a point where I want to write a whole support thread. I could do that before. Now I'll be pointed to a support channel.

lone dagger
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The tinkerer's workshop!

Do you have a dedicated room or shed specifically to tinker with hardware in? Fan of protocols, how they work, and want to talk without things being support focused? Chat with your fellow hardware enthusiasts here! Commiserate over your struggles or celebrate your victories over technology here.

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Every channel has a description for its use.

static schooner
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also "write a whole support thread" is a bit of a strawman

cyan nimbus
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I get what he is saying though.

static schooner
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whatever you plan to post can be a post

vestal sleet
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There is quite a difference in the mental load and impact of those things.

cyan nimbus
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I think the issue with the-workshop is it is specifying "hardware"

lone dagger
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protocols

vestal sleet
vestal sleet
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Sorry, I didn't intend to start a whole thing, I know there's been friction already. I'll stop now.

lone dagger
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Y'all's point is "there is nowhere to chat". There are.

vestal sleet
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I just didn't like the message that suggest you can do anything you could before, when that isn't really the case.

cyan nimbus
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I think the-workshop is a good title and a place to chat for what he is describing minus it specifing that it is for hardware

lone dagger
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....do I have to say it a third time?

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Protocols !== hardware.

cyan nimbus
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you say that after stating "specifically hardware"

lone dagger
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I am very confused on what you are talking about. Are you taking something else I said literally?

cyan nimbus
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"Do you have a dedicated room or shed specifically to tinker with hardware in?"
I thought this was stating that the discord channel was was the room in this thought experiment.
I don't have a dedicated room as it is my whole house. I'm not a fan of protocols.

real frigate
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That’s a bit too literal.

cyan nimbus
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Chat with your fellow "hardware enthusiasts here"

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I'm not sure how many more times it can specify this room is for hardware and for me to not think it is not for anything else but hardware discussion.

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I feel like I would discuss HAM radio there.

real frigate
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Eh, maybe. But if you look at a lot of the past chats there, it does skew outside of just “hardware”.

steel wadi
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the workshop channel is for people who are hardcore enough to have a room in their house for tinkering with hardware

real frigate
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lol or people who are just into everything.

steel wadi
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solders some wires to @real frigate

static schooner
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that might make him too powerful

real frigate
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I mean… @lone dagger is a cyborg. I’m just a twisted daemon.

lone dagger
cyan nimbus
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if you just want to generally spitball talk about coding things is this also the place?

lone dagger
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Depends on if there is a community channel that works well, or if it gets into deep troubleshooting some will redirect to support channels.

cyan nimbus
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or about dockers, containers, vms, etc?

lone dagger
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Installation is where things would be redirected if there was a long convo about it.

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But I’ve seen people talk about it here.

cyan nimbus
lone dagger
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I mean, what’s so wrong with being pointed in the right space?

lone dagger
static schooner
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Kinda depends on what you're using those things for. If you're using contains, VMs, "dockers" for HA, that's #1284966540617449515

cyan nimbus
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(I'm not trying to be obtuse, just trying to understand this layout so thank you for your assistance)

static schooner
cyan nimbus
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More like scripting and coding your own custom things for fun and letting people poke at them with random comments

fathom sparrow
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it's not rocket science guys

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find somewhere to post, yes, you might have to spend a moment finding where to post. Sorry.

weak musk
last cedar
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I was having real trouble with the solar forecast integration

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almost asked for help

crisp oriole
last cedar
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|| saw that the power is in watts, not kW ||

weak musk
fathom sparrow
last cedar
crisp oriole
weak musk
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They make a pill for that