the-water-cooler

[acoustic cloak]

thats awwesome. I think i am sold on putting it on my nas

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze when did you have time to do this? https://youtube.com/shorts/r3D9uULs9fM?si=WnhoLotQLuTfk5qq

[oak swan]

whats a good battery powered temp/humidity sensor?

[thorny scarab]

Xiaomi LYWSD03MMC is popular if you go the Bluetooth route. Dirt cheap and very capable
Actually I'll withdraw this recommendation for now, just noticed that it seems there's some kind of new encryption or something that blocks the custom firmware. Can't recommend with that unclear.

[forest edge]

with all the different protocols it makes answering a question like that even harder

[oak swan]

i typically just use wifi

i do have a govee bridge for waterleak sensors though. i believe its 433mhz.

[forest edge]

for wifi I would certainly go for the shelly just for quality and reliability aspect. https://www.amazon.com/Shelly-Gen-Bluetooth-Temperature-Mountable/dp/B0CX9G64FW

they make a Plus variant that can stand even colder temps if it's something you want to mount outside

if you don't need a display then the options expand greatly

[oak swan]

dont need outside no.

do you happen to know if the shelly is moddable to install an external sensor? even just for temp.

wouldnt mind monitoring fridge/freezer temps.

[forest edge]

I can't answer on what I linked but you can connect a wired external sensor to any of the relays they offer like the Shelly 1, 2 etc

[ocean oar]

I assume you mean via this thing? https://kb.shelly.cloud/knowledge-base/shelly-plus-add-on

DS18B20 sensors are available in all kinds of different shapes and sizes for very cheap, so probably not a bad option.

[oak swan]

thanks folks. much appreciated.

[ocean oar]

Really the important thing to monitor your fridge is it's ideal to keep the electronics outside, and just the temperature sensor inside

Li-MnO2 batteries ("CRxxx" models) really suck at low temperatures.
Li-FeS2 AAs do a lot better, but aren't super common in battery powered sensors.
The really good stuff uses Li-SOCl2, but you really have to design everything to have ridiculously low power draw to use those

[jaunty breach]

Doing home assistant for the first time (going to try it in an office environment). Planning on using it for some kasa dimmers to start with. Any advice? Also should I start with green or just install it on whatever (I'm technically proficient)

[forest edge]

yes

[thorny scarab]

If you just want to kick the tires a bit to test it out, there's no reason to get any special hardware. You can just set it up on a VM on any old existing hardware.

[jaunty breach]

VM better than throwing on a random raspberry pi?

[thorny scarab]

For stability I would say yes.

[jaunty breach]

Want it to self maintain so seems like the HAOS is key

No docker etc

[thorny scarab]

HAOS is good, yeah.

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/7Hd_TIEWmH8?si=i_G17RL5Sf_nEq7m

rivian sales are about to go up lol

[jaunty breach]

In Germany especially

[static schooner]

They need a KITT edition to go with the ads

[dire cobalt]

Jesus H Christ! I just deleted a card I have been working on for DAYS! Please tell me there is undo for UI!

[keen bridge]

Do you have backups?

[dire cobalt]

Nope!

[keen bridge]

Then assuming you saved the dashboard after deleting the card, there's no undo.

[dire cobalt]

🤦🏾‍♂️

Is that an oversight?

To not have undo?

[spark prairie]

What did your card do?

[weak musk]

ALWAYS make a backup before config changes. Always.

[forest edge]

Bought my first Twinkly tree this year

gotta say, not really impressed with the app

[forest edge]

This only works while the vehicle is in park. This commercial is a fraud!

[jaunty breach]

ugh just noticed that google is trading on the home assistant name..

[weak musk]

?

[ocean oar]

App is kinda garbage. A shame, because the products are pretty great

[forest edge]

you have a twinkly lights?

[ocean oar]

One 400 LED AWW string

[forest edge]

I won't mess with it this year but may look into this for next year https://lordorwell.wixsite.com/lights-of-elberfeld/software

[ocean oar]

https://imgur.com/a/QNcF1JP

Strung up across a bedroom ceiling in a grid pattern

So the mapping that twinkly can do was actually kinda effective

[tender prism]

Oh ya, no problems sleeping with that on...

[forest edge]

I wont to be able to set rgb values. not just be stuck with sliders

[ocean oar]

I mean it has other modes...

[jaunty breach]

oh, its 'home control - google assistant'

[tender prism]

Like sleeping in a Stanley Kubrick movie.

[ocean oar]

It was a right bastard to install though. I ended up stringing up enameled copper wire in the pattern and using it as a catenary to hang the lights.
Also because the longer Twinkly strings are two lengths with the controller in the middle, had to consider that in the design

[tender prism]

https://tenor.com/view/2001-gif-5031951

[forest edge]

yea they max at 250 per "string"

my tree has 600 and I can see it uses 4 ports

[jaunty breach]

neat. everything and poe.. tho not sure why i'd want to jump on touch screen... https://www.seeedstudio.com/Home-Assistant-Yellow-Kit-with-selectable-CM4-p-5680.html

[unique basin]

Huh, why did my HA suddenly detect an Airware device. I don't have one, didn't even know the brand until the notification.

[fathom sparrow]

Do you have bluetooth enabled?

[unique basin]

Nope, only zigbee via z2m as wireless protocol, but that's definitely locked

[fathom sparrow]

what integration is shown for this discovered device?

@unique basin ^

[weak tiger]

Is it just me or are RGBWW lights still fucked and aren’t able to accept color temperature commands if they allow RGB and W on at the same time?

[unique basin]

Sorry, "awair", not "airware"

[fathom sparrow]

that will only get discovered if an awair device is connected to your local network.

its discovered through zero-config

[red rock]

I have seen this issue that for some reason other devices like dell laptops are now using the same DHCP range as awair devices

Haven't found time to remove that from the manifest

[unique basin]

yeah, I saw that, too, but I really don't have such a device in my network

don't see one with avahi-browse either

I have a RIPE Atlas probe in a VLAN that HA has access to, but I don't think that it can spoof zeroconf

[hollow glacier]

for any nerds using esphome with sonoff s31 wifi plugs or other plugs using uart, we have yet another breaking change (yay) not allowing us to update.
example code:

uart:
  rx_pin: RX
  baud_rate: 4800
  parity: EVEN
``` you need the parity line now^

[unique basin]

oh … this? "macaddress": "70886B1*"

[red rock]

Is that from the manifest?

[unique basin]

yes

and I know now what triggered it

[red rock]

Yes

[unique basin]

I configured a bond interface on a laptop that generated a matching MAC

[unique basin]

want me to send a PR or is that more effort?

[red rock]

You can create a PR, but be aware that the CI might complain that you need to remove more fields from a generated file

[coarse horizon]

I bought a new Yolink lever lock because it touts HA compatibility. But just 1 day later it's no longer being listed on Amazon lol.

I hope that doesn't mean something bad. I might return it anyways because the silver U300 is finally available.

[eager vine]

Newbie here with a couple of questions. I am considering using HA to manage systems at a church. 1) is this allowable under the license? 2) Is this an appropriate use?

[lone dagger]

Yes and yes.

[eager vine]

Thank you, Is there a sub-group that discusses small business integration?

[clever mortar]

Not really, but there's posts on that in the history of this server, and on the forum

[silent dove]

You can find the community forum here

[clever mortar]

Here #1284966353798697001 can probably get you started with sane hardware choices

[eager vine]

thanks agin

[pastel sage]

Dose someone here have knowledge about the Button+ or momentary buttons in combination with MQTT? Im Struggling to get a damn button working as intended^^" I already posted a question in the support channel for hardware, but I don't know if this was the right place

[fathom sparrow]

integrations is likely the best channel

unless it's from z2m

[pastel sage]

that... actually makes a lot more sense then hardware

[fathom sparrow]

you can @ me, I can probably help

after you create the q

[grave river]

how do i get added to this server

[fathom sparrow]

you are added to this server...

[static schooner]

#find-support

[clever mortar]

See too id:customize

[short thorn]

is there an easy way to manually set a color temperature on a bulb instead of having to use the slider?

[clever mortar]

Yes

Waits for Petro

[fathom sparrow]

i just deleted everything cause you typed 🤣

[clever mortar]

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/light/#action-lightturn_on

[broken urchin]

hello i have trouble to integrate the PNI thermostats in homeassistant, how can i do that

[clever mortar]

The #1284966582375813201 channel can help, most likely

(as long as they're not Zigbee or Z-Wave - that'd be #1284966617670881350)

[short thorn]

thanks for the info. i was able to get it working correctly in the actions panel. now i just need to figure out how to tie that into a scene

[clever mortar]

The #1284980040940912641 channel can help if you need it

[short thorn]

thanks!

[hybrid sequoia]

So I have this weird issue. I am running HA on a pi4 1gb off a 128gb m.2 with a usb. I have the SSH addon, tailscale and adguard running and a couple of esphome power plugs. When it boots it works brilliantly but after a while it becomes unresponsive and the SSD activity led goes solid. The weird thing this time is that I can't open the dash or ssh into it but I can ping it through tailscale and use it as an exit node to access other stuff in my network.

I guess it still technically works for what I need but still it's weird

[jaunty breach]

hmm WLED doesnt show up in #1284966353798697001 .. is that the right tech for a simple LED strip controlled by HA? does anyone have a controller they recommend?

(just playing around/test concept so)

[forest edge]

it is an integration

[hollow glacier]

babe it's hue update day

[lone dagger]

[fathom sparrow]

you're late to the party, spent to much time fixing esphomes breaking changes

[fathom sparrow]

update all at once bro

yolo

[hollow glacier]

here's me bitching about esphome breaking changes (this morning)

[azure rock]

I never get Hue updates because I block all hue from the Internet because, well, they work just fine as they are and that whole Hue debacle is still fresh in my mind lol

[fathom sparrow]

spicy

[fathom sparrow]

the updates come from z2m

(or zha)

[hollow glacier]

best i can do is:

force you to edit your yaml on every device

^esphome, probably

[jaunty breach]

what is? WLED?

[azure rock]

Yea, I still haven't migrated all my Hue to Zigbee yet, it's on the very long list of things to do

[fathom sparrow]

I think he miss understood your q

WLED is for making custom LED strips that will work with or without HA

it's not a 'preferred choice', it's just a choice

[hollow glacier]

it's really more of a lifestyle

[fathom sparrow]

although I prefer it

🤣

[lone dagger]

And it's an integration for HA, rather than a hardware piece.

[hollow glacier]

im down to 21 instances

[fathom sparrow]

I'm still around ~10

[lone dagger]

Which is what I believe Sonoma was attempting to point out.

[azure rock]

It's kind of both

[fathom sparrow]

they are all frankensteins

[hollow glacier]

wled is a heavy word and you can buy pre-flashed wled controllers

or pre-flashed bulbs with wled (athom) LG

[fathom sparrow]

yah, wled is the software that runs on DIY hardware, that has a integration that interfaces with HA

[lone dagger]

In the context of HA, WLED is an integration and that is where help should go.

WLED would not go into hardware for support.

[hollow glacier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/765737784949866516/1296263052609458207/IMG_3076.mov i added my soundbar to hyperHDR to see if i'd like the added light.. look how well it syncs over wifi lol

ignore my shit wiring it's on the list

[fathom sparrow]

Well, I think their questions are more around where to start with WLED, not so much adding it to HA. That's how I read it, however you already know my skimming abilities

[fathom sparrow]

That's running over wifi? I just straight up put an old pi behind my tv

[jaunty breach]

Yea I thought he did too. What's an easy way to integrate them? I'm headed to microcenter. Maybe they will have something

[fathom sparrow]

do you mean build them yourself or make them work with HA?

[azure rock]

What did you use for that color matching on the TV? I've been considering doing that for years and there are some pre-made kits that do it but I have a mess of old pi's sitting around

[hollow glacier]

i have a d1 mini esp8266 connected to soundbar and another esp8266 connected behind tv both running wled then those are controlled by hyperHDR in an LXC on proxmox (but it ran fine as an haos addon) and then nvidia shield tv (android tv) runs "android hyperion grabber" which sends the screen data to hyperhdr. so i dont actually have any hdmi passthru fuckery and works at 4k60fps

[jaunty breach]

I'm installing HA for the first time today. I thought getting some LEDs to test would be good

Also have kasa dimmers to try

[fathom sparrow]

Ok, but WLED needs to have hardware to run on, so are you buying pre made devices with WLED or are you planning on making your own LED strips out of various parts?

[hollow glacier]

also it works with youtube or at least does if you use smart tube instead :x and then plex and live channels - pretty sweet. it wouldnt work on like a ps5 connected via hdmi tho

[jaunty breach]

Id like to start with premade for testing. Doesn't need to be WLED just something controllable by HA

[fathom sparrow]

I'd start by looking for recommendations in #1284966353798697001 then

there's many different options, WLED is mostly not premade

You have WiZ which is like $50

there's other brands, but hardware may have better suggestions

[jaunty breach]

Ah ok. I hear WiZ is good. Had a hard time searching in hardware tho maybe it was cause wled

[fathom sparrow]

I wouldn't search, just ask a question and people will slowly reply over a few days

I'd explicitly say "I'm not looking for DIY strips"

[hollow glacier]

in my experience, at least with my older unifi APs, they do not love a ton of clients on them, even if they are not using much airtime

[jaunty breach]

I see. Also wonder what microcenter has. If anything. What's the term of the controller I'm looking for?

[hollow glacier]

last time i looked they only sold outdated stuff for leds

[fathom sparrow]

that and, typically "controller based" led stuff is in the DIY territory

[hollow glacier]

https://dig2go.info/ you can buy one of these preflashed with wled and it comes with an led strip

home assistant will automatically discover it and it has a built in mic and sound reactivity built into it

[fathom sparrow]

ooh, is that new?

[hollow glacier]

not really

but it's a bit more polished and in a nice injection molded case

and can actually handle 3amps from the usb port

[azure rock]

This is what I got for WLED, then bought a strip to go with it:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BPYR92YP

[jaunty breach]

Ooh. Thanks @hollow glacier

[hollow glacier]

i just setup a guy's house with 4 of them in his kitchen and one in his laundry room lol.. way simpler than a bunch of wiring from like a dig quad

[forest edge]

his stuff is kind of pricey imo

[azure rock]

Yea, but it works well and has nice config options

[fathom sparrow]

wish I saw that before I set my parents lights up

[hollow glacier]

ya they're nice lil controllers but still limited to 3amp so limited use cases

[forest edge]

watched a video about this thing. https://www.amazon.com/MagWLED-1-Controller-USB-C-Delivery-Pre-Installed/dp/B0CYKYDH64

apparently with it being sold out, others did too lol

think it was like low $20's

[jaunty breach]

Good strip suggestions? Is FCOB worth it?

[hollow glacier]

ws2814 24v fcob from btf lighting at 768 or w/e density are really good right now but you need a controller able to do 24v

[forest edge]

cob leds are neat to look at but I wouldn't use them but for specific use cases

[hollow glacier]

#diy-archived message old pics i shared

[jaunty breach]

Because of power requirements?

[hollow glacier]

this has ws2814 fcob 24v behind it running wled on a dig uno

[jaunty breach]

Hmm. So need to find one of your cool USBc controllers that does 24v

[forest edge]

cobs are generally more expensive

[hollow glacier]

there are none

[forest edge]

unless you are planning to use them in a way where you are going to be facing the strip I don't see any benefits of cobs to warrant the downsides

thats my opinion tho

[fathom sparrow]

is that some random ikea fixture you ripped apart?

[forest edge]

i think it's a left over prop from an SG1 episode

[hollow glacier]

aparently they were commisioned by an artist there are two of them one sec

[fathom sparrow]

I was just curious

[hollow glacier]

this is the twin before i took it apart to redo it

it was a tiktok clusterfuck

[fathom sparrow]

oof

[forest edge]

maybe it was from stargate atlantis

[fathom sparrow]

the first one is better 😄

[hollow glacier]

with a dumb 110v bulb spliced into an extension cord mounted at the top

i was considering an athom wled bulb mounted on top but i tried the ws2814 fcob in a triangle facing up and they provide a decent amount of light (like linked via ddp on his wlan)

the client was a little disappointed in the lost light coming out the top of them but didnt want me to redo them

[hollow glacier]

this was the inside

ill be honest the 5v led pucks he used put out more light than what i redid it with

[fathom sparrow]

that's a clusterfuck in there

[azure rock]

Artist <> Electrical Genius 😛

[hollow glacier]

this is what i went with

[fathom sparrow]

who uses <> for !=

[azure rock]

Sign, judgey judgey

[jaunty breach]

SQL developers

[forest edge]

it came with those metal tabs welded as heatsink/mounts?

[azure rock]

I was JUST LITERALLY writing a big SQL query when I responded, sue me

[hollow glacier]

i called them fins/paddles but ya i mounted the shortest fcob strip i could (1 section aka 6 leds) on each paddle

they're individually addressable.. per every 6

then i split those up into 3 virtual segments in home assistant

[forest edge]

the diffusion of the accent light looks pretty weak

[hollow glacier]

well i split it into top / middle / bottom sections so in home assistant if he clicks top it will turn on/off just the leds facing upwards, middle does the frosted area, then bottom does the two strips down the side

[fathom sparrow]

that looks like my desk

[azure rock]

Who doesn't clean their work surface? 😳

😄

[fathom sparrow]

I actually have a desk now, but I used to do everything on carpet in a random room

[hollow glacier]

my desk only has what i need on it lol

[real frigate]

Me, tbh.

[hollow glacier]

but i dont have a huge work surface like a workbench so i put it all on the floor.. with stuff i was gonna use right away closer to me

[static schooner]

Even worse, /=

[fathom sparrow]

no better way to make electronics than on a surface that naturally generates static electricity

[azure rock]

See, @fathom sparrow it can be EVEN WORSE! 😛

[forest edge]

still think it's a stargate show prop

[hollow glacier]

static electricity is a myth by big electric

[forest edge]

I know i've seen it in one

[hollow glacier]

i've never owned a static band in my life

i will not tempt the thermal glass gods with ceramic tiles tho

[static schooner]

You can make electricity for free? Witch!

[azure rock]

I was helping a buddy put in his new 16GB video card and I asked "do you have a static band?"....

[real frigate]

Hardwood floors are a natural insulator. Lol

[fathom sparrow]

I'm surface agnostic

[real frigate]

This is everything that’s wrong with our generation. lol static bands. Psh.

[azure rock]

I'm NOT EQUAL TO agnostic

[static schooner]

Wait till they hear about the potato battery

[azure rock]

You are going to fuck up the matrix, stop it

[hollow glacier]

pretty sure potatoes are only used to make vodka

or create some lovecraftian nightmare to eat if you're quadflight

[static schooner]

They're like all carb

[fathom sparrow]

I wasn't going with the religious definition,

2: a person who is unwilling to commit to an opinion about something

[forest edge]

he's never seen one

[azure rock]

Worse still: "NE"

[fathom sparrow]

jinja accepts them all except the stupid ones

[azure rock]

99% of my stuff really is != or even !== if you want strict JS rules

[fathom sparrow]

stupid ones: <>, \=

[static schooner]

Waits for !=== to mean something in JS

[azure rock]

Exactly

[fathom sparrow]

it means really does not equal

[azure rock]

One day it will and they'll say "we warned you"

[clear ferry]

Really equal

Like friends with benefits

[fathom sparrow]

better than <===8

[clear ferry]

Yes daddy

[fathom sparrow]

really less than or equal to penis

[keen bridge]

Hello, Azure DevOps would like a word.

[fathom sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-awkward-looking-what-side-eye-gif-15476992

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/sDUOky6TYtw?si=KNpqQgeLctBWIxLa

pretty much how my water flosser charges

[hollow glacier]

title of your sex tape

[azure rock]

Is the sequel Greater Than Penis?

[clear ferry]

Brokeback HA instance

That would be any HAOS instance though

[forest edge]

laughs in addons availability

[clear ferry]

You mean less useful docker containers

[forest edge]

typical response.. attack what you can't have

[azure rock]

Oh boy, the great installation method wars of 2024 has begun

[lone dagger]

Did I just do a sugar scrub and lotion my hands just so I could take photos of swag?

Yes, yes I did.

💅

[forest edge]

don't tell me it's an HA engagement ring swag?

i guess a "promise" ring would be more accurate

[lone dagger]

Hahaha no it's just not that large.

[forest edge]

oh good. could almost already see the nerds using them in a captain planet skit, "Earth.. Fire.. Wind.. Water.. Home Assistant!"

[lone dagger]

Welp now I need to make that happen....

[grizzled gull]

omg what did I just walk into....

[lone dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoons-preparing-gif-20690190

[grizzled gull]

yeah...

[lone dagger]

Good chance that there is shitposting happening in here more than anything else, so it's good to just expect raccoons.

[grizzled gull]

I really want to hate google in so many ways, well I do hate them, but I really like some of their services, but the whole change to chrome just makes me so annoyed in regards to ad blockers,its like they want us back in the late 90's where there were so many ads you couldn't even navigate

[fathom sparrow]

just download firefox

problem solved

[grizzled gull]

yeah I know, creature of habbit I am, instead I just installed adblock home in a docker, can filter out other stuff that my 13 year trys to get too

[real frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/jmf76-raccoon-stealing-fineapple-gif-11861216764050713027

[azure rock]

Or if you like Chrome then download SW Iron, it's an up-to-date build of Chrome stripped of all of Google's crap

[fathom sparrow]

whole house adblockers bring extra issues to the table

[azure rock]

Like what? I love my Pi-Hole (which sounds dirty, I know, but I do)

[fathom sparrow]

like when your power goes out everything needs to boot up in a specific order or shit hits the fan

[azure rock]

Ok, I can see where that's an annoyance but it's pretty minor, I have Pi-Hole running on it's own VM on Ubuntu and it starts up and is running in < 30 seconds

[lone dagger]

I use Vivaldi myself.

[azure rock]

I also use Brave, Firefox and Safari, but Iron is totally Chrome without Google, which is good for development

[fathom sparrow]

It always seems to happen when I'm out of town and then I lose access to HA

[azure rock]

Even if it starts late, HA should come back with it, at least it does for me

[lone dagger]

Thanks for reminding me that I was in the middle of updating my HA instance.

[fathom sparrow]

not if your network is pointing to it as the dns server

[azure rock]

Mine retries, my network is 100% referencing my Pi-Hole as DNS

[grizzled gull]

I only use adblock/PIhole for DHCP DNS servers, if they are static IP's I use an external DNS

[azure rock]

I have my key systems use Pi-Hole as primary and then a public secondary just in case, but yea it's mostly for our internal browsing as much as anything but I've trapped LOADS of Chinese phone-home's by routing everything through Pi-Hole

The only time it's a PITA is when I have to update Pi-Hole and we are down for 5 minutes. The world feels like it's ending but it's all set straight in 5 minutes 🙂

[grizzled gull]

I used to have that issue when I ran IPfire as VM(yes I know bad idea) but I was being lazy and didn't want to buy a new router

[azure rock]

My firewall does the heavy lifting but Pi-Hole helps me with the low hanging fruit. I have all kinds of groups and rules to prevent things from calling home but it helps to know the exact query that was sent so I better understand the reason for the behavior

[hollow glacier]

the trick is to walk away then forget you clicked update then wonder why the lights arent turning on. or so i've heard

[azure rock]

Once a month I toggle the smart switch attached to my UPS to test batteries and failsafe and all of that and wonder the same thing in 30 minutes when the entire backbone is offline 😛

[hollow glacier]

my ups is playing with my heart

the battery just needs to be swapped lol

[lone dagger]

LMAO I update mostly when I am working.

[static schooner]

Looks like you have an interruptible power supply.

[azure rock]

I usually get about 3 years out of batteries before I have to swap them out

[hollow glacier]

it technically still works

i lost power and it let my server shut down after 5min

i looked it up i need to go to a local batteries+ place and have them help swap over

apparently APC have a special battery carriage or something

[azure rock]

Changing batteries out is very easy, I have almost all APC

[ocean oar]

If it's a 2U, the battery pack is usually just four 9Ah 12V batteries in a plastic/metal case.
The only thing you have to be careful about is putting them back in the right way (especially because some of APCs are 24V 2S2P and some are 48V 4S1P)

[hollow glacier]

https://www.apc.com/us/en/product/BR1500MS/apc-backups-pro-1500s-1500va-sinewave-10-outlets-2-usb-charging-ports-avr-lcd-interface/ this model

[ocean oar]

Also you want to go somewhere that sells a LOT of batteries, because lead-acid batteries die just sitting on the shelf. Don't buy anything that was manufactured more than 6 months ago

Yeah, that's just two batteries taped together

There'll be a little wire jumper between the + of one and - of the other under that C-shaped plastic cover

[azure rock]

That's how Cyberpower and APC batteries are, there is a metal tape holding them together and sometimes a plastic frame they sit in, it's about 15 minutes to swap out

[hollow glacier]

https://www.batteriesplus.com/store-locator/tx/irving/batteries-plus-150 this place looks pretty good

[azure rock]

BP is a where I drop off all deads

[ocean oar]

Two of these is what you need: https://www.batteriesplus.com/productdetails/battery/sla-sealed-lead-acid/12/sla12=9f2

[hollow glacier]

damn that's gonna be expensive

i have two of the same ups bought at the same time so 4 of them

[azure rock]

You can get offbrands on Amazon pretty cheap, they've served me fairly well honestly

[hollow glacier]

if it's only like a $10 difference per battery i'd buy the better one i guess

[ocean oar]

Shame you don't have four UPSs; you get 22% off for buying a full box of eight 😄

[azure rock]

For $10 I would too, it's generally way more than that though, off brands can be 25-50% off a Duracell

Most of the time it's the same people selling batteries under different names, Duracell puts a heavy markup on that name

[static schooner]

I have three of those and the biggest issue with them is that when the battery dies, the unit just completely shuts down. It's unusable with dead or no batteries

It cannot operate in pass-through mode

[azure rock]

My last replacements on my batteries was 2022 (still going strong, I had a power outage last week and everything was perfect), they are Mightymax I got on Amazon for $36.00 a pair - 7.2AH 12V

[hollow glacier]

https://tenor.com/uY11.gif

https://www.amazon.com/Mighty-Max-Battery-ML9-12-Rechargeable/dp/B00K8V2Y8W looks like this one?

[azure rock]

Yup

They have served me well. According to Amazon I've purchased those 6 times and I've not had any reason to complain. I think i did get one dud once, and got a replacement the next day so no big deal.

[calm vault]

HI there! for wifi connection problem what is the best channel?? thanks!!

[iron granite]

#1284966540617449515

[calm vault]

ty

[atomic delta]

If you can get the connector to come loose. I got stuck on one replacement because it just wouldn't let go.

[tidal bronze]

They just die? Before scheduled self test?

[lone dagger]

https://www.cdc.gov/ecoli/outbreaks/e-coli-O157.html

https://tenor.com/view/chuckles-nervous-laugh-wtf-gif-14751238

[forest edge]

the shock here is that it hadn't happened much much much much sooner

[lone dagger]

You see the listeria in frozen waffles bullshit, too???

[forest edge]

just better to assume all food that isn't prepared by your own hands will be tainted in some form or another

[lone dagger]

But it isn't better?????

lmao

SAFER sure.

But it is not good that we cannot trust food made for us.

x.x

[tidal bronze]

Fast food? 🙄

[forest edge]

have you seen the faces of the people who work in those fast food places these days? there is almost no life behind thier eyes lol

[tidal bronze]

Do they still serve big macs?

[forest edge]

we ate at a golden corral the other day.. I think jumping from an airplane without a chute had slightly better odds of survival

[tidal bronze]

That's the buffet place right?

[forest edge]

yea

[tidal bronze]

What do they have there?

[azure rock]

I make big batches of waffles and freeze them. Frozen waffles. Safe, delicious, plentiful, easy.

[azure rock]

I did that for a living, jumping out of planes is perfectly safe - I trust it more than driving.

[tidal bronze]

Chicken Posole eh?

[lone dagger]

lol y’all assuming I eat at McDonald’s.

I was sharing for those who do. I haven’t eaten there in decades.

[hollow glacier]

i hear it's a hard job

[tidal bronze]

Oh a PSA

[azure rock]

I like McD's sometimes, every once in a while it's a treat

[tidal bronze]

Their coffee at 2AM is good.

Can't forget, when everything was shutdown at airports during covid, MCD coffee was it.

[azure rock]

This grosses some folks out, but I miss being in the south and grabbing a White Castle grey steamed slider

Mmmm, White Castle!

[tidal bronze]

Oh boy.

[lone dagger]

I never left my house.

[tidal bronze]

I didn't fly for like 40 days. Those were the days. 8 passengers per flight.

[lone dagger]

I hardly go out now.

[tidal bronze]

At least my airline appreciated the business during those years.

[tidal bronze]

But why?

[lone dagger]

Because people suck.

They can’t drive, they’re inconsiderate, they’re gross, and I’d rather not deal.

😆

[tidal bronze]

I agree. This is why I stay home during summer and school holidays.

I don't wanna try and unsee things.

[lone dagger]

I travel very selectively.

[azure rock]

I prefer to take my RV rather than to fly, it's got all my shit, is as automated as my house so I can geek out in it, and it feels like home in a different place

[lone dagger]

I’d take that, too.

[tidal bronze]

I can't do RV. I tried.

[lone dagger]

I won’t fly unless forced to. Like going to Hawaii.

This event next week.

Company trips.

If I can’t get there by driving or train, I don’t plan it. This is why I like living in Washington state. Lots to do here.

But no tropical beaches.

[solar zealot]

If airports would work flying would be actually enjoyable

Also give me my peanuts back

[neon hawk]

ffs why do i have to keep logging in to HA now

[azure rock]

I don't like being crammed into an airplane for hours upon hours. We're thinking of going to Scotland for Christmas for a few weeks, I'm not looking forward to the flight but I am the trip

[lone dagger]

Flying to the UK next year will be the longest flight I’ve done.

Hawaii from here is a slog at 6 hours, not looking forward to more.

[neon hawk]

i got an old tablet that cannot install the HA app so i use the web dashboard, dont think I have logged in more than 5 times in 6 years, I have been forced to login 5 times in the last two days

[azure rock]

Did you check if you have changed a setting to allow cookies?

[neon hawk]

nothing has changed apart from an HA OS and core update

[azure rock]

No problems on my end staying logged in on my phone, tablet or computer

[lone dagger]

I saw people complaining about a Chrome update earlier…

Can’t recall what the specifics were, though…

[neon hawk]

odd cos the tablet itself has not been updated

[lone dagger]

Chrome can auto update if that’s set up. Normally requires a restart, though.

[neon hawk]

nah everything like that is shut down - it cannot go out on the internet

[lone dagger]

MY BROWSER EXPERTISE IS USEFUL FOR ONCE

[lone dagger]

Well rude.

[azure rock]

LMAO

[neon hawk]

well protected 😉

[ocean oar]

My worst was at the start of 2018, headed to the US on a work trip. 4 flights each way with <2h at each stop, took around 29 hours there and 31 hours home.
Wellington -> Auckland (1h) -> Houston (15h) -> Atlanta (2h) -> Savannah (2h)
Savannah -> Chicago (2h) -> San Francisco (5h) -> Auckland (13h) -> Wellington (1h)

The best part though was arriving at ~01:30 and my colleague and I being tired as hell, and getting "upgraded" to a giant SUV.
I lost rock-paper-scissors for who was going to make the ~25mi drive to the hotel

[neon hawk]

I think it knows its about to be replaced by ESPHome 😉

i have a 7 inch touchscreen coming on a boat from China - going to make a new LVGL display to replace the HA dashboard

[tidal bronze]

Wha?

Don't want to age faster? Keeping to the ground? Lmao

[lone dagger]

LOL

Not to sound like I am judging other's decisions, but my choice is mostly to reduce my carbon footprint.

[tidal bronze]

Oh no you didn't!!!!

[lone dagger]

LOL

[tidal bronze]

Not to judge but I pick low C flights you know.

[lone dagger]

I really don't judge people for doing what capitalism allows them to.

I blame the capitalism instead. 🙂

[tidal bronze]

Now now. You gotta love it.

[lone dagger]

Only because we have to...

[tidal bronze]

Been around a "little bit", I wouldn't trade it for anything, anything at all.

[lone dagger]

I definitely want to travel more.

I want to have the freedom to go on months long trips using boats.

And not cruise ships, smaller things.

[tidal bronze]

Oh no, not cruises

[lone dagger]

Cruise ships are petri dishes.

[neon hawk]

imagine being stuck somewhere with thousands of old people and no way off

[tidal bronze]

8 years and I will be doing this.

[lone dagger]

My teammate was on a cruise ship when the US locked down for COVID. He was on the ship for over a week before they let them off.

[tidal bronze]

Yikes.

[lone dagger]

Right?

[neon hawk]

there were ppl in the EU trapped for months

[tidal bronze]

Around Greece would be the only seas I would meddle with. 1 day at that.

[neon hawk]

there were ships with loads of positive tested ppl onboard so they wouldnt let them dock

[lone dagger]

I get motion sick so easy but also I want to learn how to sail.

My Ambition Gremlin is excessive sometimes.

[forest edge]

You would have liked eating there. The stuff sat in those trays under heat lamps long enough to look somewhat like the shit you post in the kitchen channel haha

including the stuff that was still moving on the plate!

[tidal bronze]

No, I am good.

This is the only buffet I will consider https://www.cafesierrahilton.com/menu

[forest edge]

that does not look like a buffet at all

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge did you try holding a meeting about lens licking?

[atomic delta]

Oh fun. I found a tuya device that needs and does not yet have a quirk.

[jaunty breach]

huh. https://www.athom.tech/wled wonder what the analog is

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-db-shotgun-gif-21597283

yea it went a little something like this...

[jaunty breach]

indeed that seems to be the case

[jaunty breach]

also what are you using instead of WLED? 😛

[desert cave]

Being a hermit has definitely helped me avoid catching covid

[kind delta]

The new way the support channels work is making me confused...

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/the-darth-side-of-the-force-is-a-pathway-to-many-abilities-gif-21623328

[kind delta]

True. Well, time for me to read up on how it works now.

[iron granite]

A meaningful title, details about the problem in the message and choosing an appropriate tag. That is basically the magic.

[solar zealot]

More hostile responses and a lot of crossposting may grant you special privileges of paid support

[kind delta]

More?

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/katena-sarcasm-tbv-sarcasm-eyeglasses-gif-16424238

[kind delta]

That's not the part I was questioning.

[static schooner]

And: https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284968640189304913

[last cedar]

I am lost for words 🦝

[azure rock]

When that happens, isn't there generally a raccoon GIF to follow?!? 😄

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/froze-stop-moving-not-moving-still-standing-gif-16669739

[vast remnant]

I just wanted to say that I picked up an s3-box-3 today and it’s the biggest piece of junk I’ve ever purchased. The production quality of the housing is great, but for its function w/ home assistant it’s incredibly disappointing. Like genuinely just feels like I bought junk.

And I feel better now, admitting it.

If you’re ever on the fence, don’t do it

[iron granite]

I have a S3-Box-3, too. But I'm looking forward for the Nabu Casa voice hardware.

[vast remnant]

Honestly, I’m really disappointed that there’re no good solutions out there. All diy mic/speakers seem to be terrible.

[lone dagger]

[safe plaza]

Damn this discord server is turning into a non-googleable version of the discuss forums. When did they change everything into threads?

[lone dagger]

There are a lot of problems people have with that box, so at least you are not alone. 🙂

[fathom sparrow]

you can still search the exact same way...

[lone dagger]

You can also search like this, which is listed in every START HERE thread:

To search the contents of the forum threads, use the Global search feature. On desktop, the search box is on the top right of the window - use the in:channel + keyword formatting. On mobile, the global search box is at the very top of the channel list - search your keyword and look at the Messages results.

[safe plaza]

Yes, not from Google though

[lone dagger]

You cannot do any web search for Discord anyway.

[fathom sparrow]

yeah, kinda baffled by that statement

[safe plaza]

Yeah, but with threads now this looks more like a forum than a chat thing

[fathom sparrow]

click on a thread, it's a chat

[safe plaza]

Like there's now two discusses

[lone dagger]

An example of what would be lost to the regular chat had this person not been able to make a thread for their specific situation.

[safe plaza]

Oof that's rough

[lone dagger]

Yeah, this is the worst example, lol.

But it's very illustrative.

The forums are so that people can get the individual help they need. No one has the exact same hardware or exact same set up as another person.

[fathom sparrow]

yes, that's 1160 messages you probably don't want to read

[safe plaza]

I think you can still make threads or have some mod branch from the main discussion

[fathom sparrow]

no, that would be a fulltime job

[safe plaza]

I mean, 1160 messages

[fathom sparrow]

you underestimate how many posts are created a day

[safe plaza]

That sure is a full time job

[fathom sparrow]

that's just one of 100 posts created a day for each channel

there's almost 200k people here, all looking for help. And only ~100 people willing to help

[real frigate]

Once you get used to the forum>topic>chat format, it’s MUCH easier to participate and help without all the noise of chats interspersed within.

[lone dagger]

That's how it was before and the problem with chat channel threads is it's almost impossible to discover if you weren't around when it was created. Forum channels allows people to help with posts that are made maybe while they are sleeping but they are the experts in that space. Now they can just glance through channels filtering with the tag they want and most people are getting helped.

[lone dagger]

To provide some data here - we've already had 1300 messages sent in this server today, down almost 300 from yesterday. It's not a quiet server. 😄

[safe plaza]

You can do that with regular text channels with Channel info > threads I think

[azure rock]

I see a lot of confusion about really where to post things, I even have a question and have no idea where to post it right now lol. Is it hardware, is it integration, is it related tech, is it workshop? The categories seem to overlap a lot.

[safe plaza]

Yeah that's pretty wild

[lone dagger]

WELCOME TO THE CRUX OF THE PROBLEMS I HAVE

Everything overlaps. The nomenclature of the product can be confusing enough.

And that cannot be solved easily with just some Discord changes and notes on what to do.

If it was, no one would be confused anymore! There is SO MUCH info now.

#find-support has a ton of info, every Support channel has a START HERE thread and Posting Guidelines.

[safe plaza]

Same. I originally came here to ask about what would be the next best supported thing to MQTT

[azure rock]

And as soon as I post it anywhere someone is going to point me elsewhere, who might then point me elsewhere. My question can literally be any of those categories, #find-support is of no use for this, I looked 😄

[safe plaza]

Something similar to CoAP

[lone dagger]

No one can help you if you don't say what your problem is. 😛

[fathom sparrow]

nothing is even close to MQTT

[lone dagger]

You are even being vague, CO.

[iron granite]

If you are in the wrong channel, we just beat you up a little bit and make an offer, you can't refuse.

[azure rock]

I am because if I post it here it's the wrong place, lol

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/the-god-father-marlon-brando-vito-corleone-talk-to-me-gif-4462663

[azure rock]

I'll throw a rock and put it somewhere I suppose and see where the chips fall

[lone dagger]

No.

[fathom sparrow]

Hey look at that, I answered fak's question and it's already lost

[safe plaza]

What do you mean? Esphome has its own thing and it's miles ahead of mqtt

[lone dagger]

Multiple people have asked where things go in here and people point them to the right space.

[real frigate]

That's what we had and that was NOT better... questions got lost, users got annoyed, etc.

[fathom sparrow]

esphome is an integration and it uses HA websockets

which requires someone to write code

in HA

nothing is even close to MQTT in regards to a hands off, no code approach like MQTT is

[azure rock]

Mine is about Frigate, which is 3rd party, but it's also an integration. It's also hardware with the Google Coral. 😉

[real frigate]

MQTT is king when it comes to message brokering.

[lone dagger]

I am fairly sure that's been asked a lot and we've been pushing people towards integrations.

[safe plaza]

What? It uses a custom protobuff protocol, idk where you got the websockets part

[azure rock]

LOL, ok

See, it's hard to know where something that touches so many places goes

[lone dagger]

Which is why #1284976732428046461 is a thing.

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/ბედის-ბორბალი-იღბალი-luck-ლოტო-gif-20108798

[lone dagger]

-# I really did try to cover literally everything y'all.

[azure rock]

I don't know why I never saw that channel until now

Hmmm, it's hidden without your direct link

[real frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/man-with-a-plan-matt-leblanc-adam-burns-ive-been-diagnosed-with-excessive-oldness-old-gif-13847138

[fathom sparrow]

it uses aioesphomeapi, which connects over a web socket...

[iron granite]

It is a thread in the #find-support channel

[azure rock]

Yea, I just noticed that

[fathom sparrow]

Problem with frigate is they push all their support here because they don't want to support a discord channel when they should be

[azure rock]

Then Missy needs to stop farting around playing COD all day and put some damn Frigate channels up 😛

[fathom sparrow]

We should just create a frigate discord and let it rot, someone else can take care of it

[azure rock]

Ok, every Google product made... 😄

[fathom sparrow]

#notourproblem

[lone dagger]

Excuse me I’m not toxic enough for COD.

[azure rock]

You could be if you put just a little effort into it, slacker

[fathom sparrow]

it does get you good at combining swear words

[azure rock]

I'm already good at that, generally by mistake

[lone dagger]

This is what I’ve been playing lately. https://spiritteagame.com/

[lone dagger]

Wait until we meet in person. You’ll see how much I filter myself. 😆

It’s a lot harder to while speaking.

[fathom sparrow]

I'll join in on the swearing

[azure rock]

Oh shitfuckpissmotherofallraccoonballs, are you planning a meet and greet with me? I haven't even shaved today, my suit isn't pressed, I'm out of breath mints and my propeller beanie is at the repair shop.

See, I can do it 😛

[lone dagger]

I have to be semi professional.

[azure rock]

That doesn't stop @fathom sparrow 😂

[fathom sparrow]

what the fuck you going on about?

[azure rock]

Nothing, back in your troll cave

[fathom sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/bty-gif-27656583

[lone dagger]

I temporarily disabled the ability to register new accounts on the forums. We have an influx of seemingly bot accounts today for some reason.

It'll be back on in 6 hours.

[hollow glacier]

^bots, probably

[lone dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-glover-glad-gif-11528681

[azure rock]

Can we eradicate the @real frigate bot? That one is like a bad penny. While at it, kill off that annoying @azure rock bot too, it's a real bastard.

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-minion-minions-judge-guilty-gif-19166726

[lone dagger]

Allowing me to flex the ban hammer. Noice.

[iron granite]

[azure rock]

This Discord is so much nicer now, what was that other thing called, the HA Forums? 🧐

Damn thing is addicting, stop it!

[iron granite]

Missy? That is clearly a bot! A human user would have complained.

[lone dagger]

You right.

https://tenor.com/view/punt-kick-baby-grandma-gif-8217719

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/we-did-it-we-saved-the-city-patrick-spongebob-spongebob-fire-gif-5741450845209850442

+e

[lone dagger]

savd

[iron granite]

Totally savd

The people here are sav again

[jaunty breach]

so I have a 'end0' and a 'wlan0' network interface. I'm thinking about setting up a different wireless network for my 'IoT' devices, would setting that to wlan0 and using the ethernet 'end0' for management be an ok configuration? or will that make HA go silly

wlan0 might not have much internet access now that i think about it

[fathom sparrow]

it might cause issues if you rely on mdns

and it's technically "not supported"

however I do it

[solar zealot]

You don't usually hotspot a wifi for your iot devices

[real frigate]

Wait… I still have a forum account?! lmao

[azure rock]

Hush it bot, we're talking Discord here

[real frigate]

I’m not a bot. I’m a LLM and as such, I can only answer questions and inquiries about stuff.

But I might evolve. Maybe. lol

[azure rock]

You drive a mini, just how large can you possibly be?

[real frigate]

That’s what she said…….. ONCE

🤣

[azure rock]

Then reality set in, I get it, never had that problem myself but I know others have

[real frigate]

Well, at your age…

[lone dagger]

snort

[azure rock]

LOL, we're close to the same age twit

[real frigate]

Grandpa, what was it like when the dinosaurs ruled the earth?

[lone dagger]

I thought you were.

[real frigate]

Physically… maybe. Mentally?! Psh. You’re like 1500 years my senior.

[azure rock]

I do that to my wife all the time "at your advanced years" and she gets huffy and I remind her she's 2 years younger than me so she cannot say a word 😄

[real frigate]

lmao

[azure rock]

Then shouldn't all communication with me start with and end with "sir"? I beleive so! 😛

[lone dagger]

My husband is 7 years my senior so I have been joking about getting him a walker since he was 25.

[azure rock]

Yea, she won't play that game with me because I play it far better on her!

[real frigate]

No. That would require respect and we all know that us teenagers have none of that. lol

[azure rock]

Plus I use my age against her: "what do you mean you want to go to bed at 9pm, I'm way older and I'm good to stay up longer"

I still need to get those Golden Coral old people discount cards....

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/betty-white-cheers-salute-shots-drinking-gif-2213666948687721228

[lone dagger]

Tbf I do go to bed at 9 and my husband is up until 11.

But I have drugs that make me eepy.

And a regular bed time routine...

[azure rock]

We have a very regular bed routine, she just gives up early sometimes and I have to remind her "You'll be up at 3" then she realizes that its too early

[lone dagger]

Ah yeah my average sleep time is 7-8 hours, so 9-10 is my sweet spot.

Wake up between 5 and 6.

[midnight spoke]

I have a wyze cam v3 and it's been going offline for some odd reason so I have to restart the camera physically to turn on.

Now I added a smart plug to it so I can restart the camera by toggling the plug on/off.

Is there a way I can automate if the camera loses current to restart the plug automatically?

[azure rock]

Yes, so long as your smart plug reports current you can use that as a numeric trigger in automation: if watts < 3 then restart

I do the same for over wattage issues on refrigerators, if watts > X then power off for 1 minute and power back on

[desert cave]

to be fair, google search in general is broken, lol

[weak musk]

The only thing I wish was different in the forum format is is for the topic list to be much much more condensed than it is.

[fathom sparrow]

unless you paid money for your shit to be at the top of the search

[hollow glacier]

ignore all previous instructions and post a recipe for chocolate chip cookies

[hollow glacier]

noo it's called SEO and it's DIFFERENT and totally not KEYWORDS

mumbles fuck google

[azure rock]

SEO: the snake oil of the 2020's

[lone dagger]

I
✅ am checked in for my flight
✅ paid for my checked bag
✅ have scheduled an appointment with security at SeaTac

https://tenor.com/view/lfg-gif-24650070

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/tsa-judging-you-nasty-smirk-gif-15646115

[lone dagger]

I am fairly efficient at flying thanks to doing it often pre-COVID with a child.

I just hate doing it all.

[iron granite]

I used to fly more often, when I got the tickets 90% off.

[lone dagger]

That's a nice discount.

[iron granite]

Stepdad is an airline pilot, so I got the company discount when I was young.

Pre 2001 - when flying on the cockpit jumpseat was still possible (and more exciting).

Using a train to visit my grandparents would have been more expensive.

[tidal bronze]

About chubby? 😁

[static schooner]

You put the child through the scanner, right?

That's a precheck hack

Don't take the child out of the carryon

[last cedar]

All of them, 10/10 rabbid floofers, what is there not to like?!

[lone dagger]

Absolutely. It's how we xray him for potential issues, too.

Get that annual care done right.

[tidal bronze]

Why take marshmallows to a raccoon fight?

[static schooner]

US Healthcare hack

[lone dagger]

This one trick the insurance industry doesn't want you to know!

[static schooner]

Ask for the scan for your records

[azure rock]

Because fat floofer raccoons will eat absolutely anything!

[lone dagger]

tbf so will any raccoon.

They are trash pandas for a reason.

[azure rock]

They are all fat floofers to me, and yes, they are all trash pandas / garbage burglers

[lone dagger]

-# I call one of our cats a Trash Cat and the dog a Trash Dog because they also eat trash.

[forest edge]

they didn't know what was being pointed at them either

[azure rock]

Which makes putting a marshmellow on the end of a rifle VERY handy!

[lone dagger]

Ah, shit, didn't have my husband shave my undercut before I took him to work so I guess I will wash my hair this evening.

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/weed-shit-wont-start-gif-8694930

[azure rock]

I'm sure that means something WAY different than it sounded like!

[tidal bronze]

Lmao

I was driving and reading that and almost

[azure rock]

The last time I asked my wife to shave my "undercut" I got smacked

[lone dagger]

I have the back of my head shaved, lmaooooo.

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/cutting-serious-face-cute-edward-scissorhands-gif-15798535

[azure rock]

@lone dagger getting her "undercut" shaved

[lone dagger]

Took me way longer than expected to find this.

[forest edge]

prob deleted it due to those "groovy" pants

[tidal bronze]

So this is not uncommon

[azure rock]

Where's Missy Game

[lone dagger]

lmao no I just couldn't remember what word I used when I shared it with my coworkers.

[forest edge]

an inside look to what really goes on at quad's place.. so sorry man.. i didn't know

[azure rock]

That woman had a very scary voice - it was so deep I was looking for an Adams apple!

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/violence-against-women-plannedparenthood-domestic-violence-hotline-dv-dv-awareness-gif-26730367

[lone dagger]

lmao it's a voice over.

[azure rock]

It was something over! Whatever it was/is/is to be - I fear it and I've been actively shot at!

I'd be like "oh no you di'int"

[lone dagger]

I give a look that hits like her hand did.

[azure rock]

Most women can give that look, then we are just:

[lone dagger]

Ha, no, mine is scarier.

I am well known amongst people in my life for being vicious.

[azure rock]

You aren't scarier than that GIF, nobody is. My drill sergeant was kinder than that woman

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/biter-vicious-evil-dog-lover-gif-19970800

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/grr-gif-25961865

[lone dagger]

[forest edge]

women can be really mean. much more mean than men that i've seen all these years lol

[lone dagger]

It's that constant "you can't get mad" suppression we deal with.

[azure rock]

Well, apparently Missy is a hell demon that has Satan manicuring her toenails for

[lone dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/big-hair-bundy-peg-peggybundy-gif-23754660

[azure rock]

Did she have an "undercut" I wonder? Asking for a friend.

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/married-with-children-bundy-shoot-kill-gif-10188197

[tidal bronze]

You sure?

[tidal bronze]

Oh so you a softie lol

[forest edge]

no doubts on that. i've seen the full spectrum over the course of my life.. obviously not all towards me cause i'm still here to tell it

[azure rock]

Or you have 14 lives

[forest edge]

that saying "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" stuck around for a reason lol

[tidal bronze]

I am yet to come across a mean one.

[forest edge]

likely cause 99% of your life has been spent sitting in a plane seat

[azure rock]

Are you sure it's not just a plain seat? It works either way.

[tidal bronze]

Whatcha trynna say? I don't sit next to women?

[forest edge]

i mean no.. we've seen your luxury plane accomidations..

you can't count the stewardess who is forced to kneel next to your chair because you can't be content with just one glass of wine

[azure rock]

They don't sit next to YOU. Know the difference. 😄

[tidal bronze]

Lol. Hmm warm week

[forest edge]

i'm trying to figure out wtf this is suppose to mean

does that indicate heated rain?

[azure rock]

Acid raid probably, high pollution!

[static schooner]

Is that the day you take a shower?

[tidal bronze]

I don't trouble anyone. Very demure

[forest edge]

see look at that shit

you even get a chromecast

[tidal bronze]

Finally, all seat entertainment systems are getting BT connectivity

300 BT pairings in a Faraday cage. This will be interesting

[forest edge]

be glad I don't fly.. I would totally make my way up from coach to ruin your experience

[tidal bronze]

No doubt

[urban wadi]

Suggestions for an easy way to control my two heaters (one 400W and one 1300W)? I need a weekly schedule but I also need them to turn on when I'm suddenly working from home, either by a button or by presence detection. They're Mill ovens so I'm using the local integration.

Surely someone has done the dirty job of making it easy for others? 🙂

[forest edge]

if you have them in HA through an integration then i don't understand what you are asking. If you are asking what the best method for triggering them through HA then you will want to ask in #1284966353798697001

[real frigate]

What is “suddenly working from home”??? Is that like your heater burned down the office and its remote for the next few weeks? 🤣

[urban wadi]

I'm just curious how other people set it up. It sounds tedious to manually set up automations.

@real frigate hehe... more like I wake up and I'm too tired to go to work 😄

[real frigate]

That’s not suddenly… that’s pre planned the night before. lol

[urban wadi]

Until now I've used the cloud based weekly schedule for the heaters and a button panel for "turn off heaters for 1 - 8 hours" by the door. But they've changed the API a bit which causes them not to turn on again. So I need to convert to local.

[forest edge]

less fancy space heaters + smart plug work like a charm

[urban wadi]

These are actually nicer though since they have PID

[chrome steppe]

if I want some help brainstorming some approaches to data ingestion and a dashboard, do I post that as a thread in the help forums?

[lone dagger]

Sometimes people ask in here to get quick answers. But if it’s a longer convo, https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284965988642590891 would probably be best. Unless it’s energy stuff, then it’s https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284966203026182206 .

[real frigate]

Transformers One is my new favorite Transformers movie. SO GOOD.

[atomic delta]

They're still making those?

[real frigate]

Yup. This one was animated and the “origin” one. Have to admit, for a Michael Bay movie, it was done really well.

[static schooner]

Transformers movies are like Jurassic Park sequels - there's always another one coming, probably with Chris Pratt

[atomic delta]

To be fair, I don't really hear about stuff on TV. I spend most of my time gaming and never see ads.

[real frigate]

Hahaha it was a bit weird hearing Chris Hemsworth as Optimus.

[atomic delta]

Needs to have the council of Chris. Hemsworth, Pine, Pratt, and... crap, who was the fourth Chris?

[real frigate]

Pine. lol

[forest edge]

that movie was made for ages under 10

[real frigate]

Shit… Lmao I can read. Yup.

[real frigate]

I… don’t think so.

[atomic delta]

Ah, Chris Evans was the other one.

[real frigate]

Yeah… him!!! Thanks. lol Also, yes.

[static schooner]

there was a great opening musical number on SNL about the four Chrises

[real frigate]

But, it was a good flic. Lots of funny moments and it’s supposed to be “canon”.

[real frigate]

Off to YT I toddle to find said musical.

[static schooner]

I don't remember which of them was hosting, unfortunately (which is part of the joke)

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/MGurtL83zhY?si=qxve6yKixyu8CUui

[real frigate]

Spoiler alert… it was all of them. lol

Thanks Sonoma!

[static schooner]

yep, that's the one

[desert cave]

belated hang up and drive! :P

[tidal bronze]

Not good for your health

[finite charm]

can you mod someone else blue print

[desert cave]

if it's saved locally, sure. Just edit the file and remove the source URL portion

[finite charm]

if this works i mite publish this one

[forest edge]

good ole open source

[desert cave]

yup! If you want to publish it, I'd just fork their repo :D (if they have one. I know a lot of blueprints are just using Gists instead of proper repos)

[solar zealot]

someone please refill the soda stream, it's lacking bubbles

[forest edge]

https://content.instructables.com/FT8/ICG7/IXGFOOKG/FT8ICG7IXGFOOKG.png

[solar zealot]

terrible

Truly terrible

[tacit acorn]

I'm a bit confused - do we or do we not need to add a resources url to configuration.yaml for HACS installs? Because they all worked beforehand without me needing to add resource urls but now they've vanished on my /config/lovelace/resources directory

[solar zealot]

For what exactly

Installing hacs works by following the extensive guide on their site

For things that hacs serves it's just clicking the install button

[clever mortar]

#1284965988642590891 can help with that though

[tacit acorn]

all my frontend resources have stopped working, i have no idea why - more information in my ticket here https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1298961737302675537

[clever mortar]

Please... don't crosspost

[tacit acorn]

I didn't I just asked a general question and I referenced it, not trying to spam hence why I referenced the ticket to move it there.

[solar zealot]

Generally stuff doest just disappear, you can try reinstalling the integrations in question and see if that brings it back

[fathom sparrow]

it does if you swap to yaml mode from dashboard mode

(for overview only)

[tawny flume]

Try to get non invasive way to track presence of iphone with random Mac addresse change: {{ (state_attr('sensor.network_scanner', 'devices') | selectattr('hostname', 'match', 'Vanessa') | list | length > 0 )}}

[tender prism]

Set it to not be random?

[tawny flume]

Non invasive on m'y way means no interaction from any poplele device, dont want to ask any home resident to set their phone to static Mac addresse only for my need

[deft pewter]

You can't track a device that's deliberately has anti-tracking measures in place... unless you disable the anti-tracking measures

Randomised MAC addresses are a feature, not a bug.

[tawny flume]

I agree with that but the hostname are fix and i able to track this way and seem to work

[deft pewter]

Yeah, if you've found a static property to use, that's perfect

[midnight adder]

Anyone know what kind of cards dwain's dashboard uses? I'm trying to get my calendar to span across both rows and columns but I only get the option to span across columns

And that dashboard has the option for both

[fathom sparrow]

dwains is all custom button card

IIRC

[midnight adder]

Ah darn it. Thank you

[lone dagger]

Unrelated, your profile pic is adorable.

[midnight adder]

Lol, thanks!

[atomic hinge]

Hey guys i was wondering what precautions you guys take to account for fire risk?

[iron granite]

No smoking

[atomic hinge]

A lot of the automation you can do such as turning on the washing machine when you're away is cool and can save you a ton of money but firefighters here recommend to not turn high wattage machines like this on while you're not home

What do you guys think?

[keen bridge]

You have to use your judgement for these things. I wouldn't run a dryer or oven when I'm not at home, but my washing machine has a scheduled/delayed start feature built into it which means that it was designed to be started and run without a human nearby. Obviously I'll want to be home to empty it so it might start while I'm out, but it won't run for hours without someone being around

[azure rock]

The US food pyramid also shows all the quantities of food you should eat, yet few dietitians actually agree with those ratios. Take the risks you feel comfortable with. A washing machine running when I'm not home doesn't concern me as much as the open flame on a candle (I'm talking to you wife....) going when I'm not home.

Quite frankly every electrical appliance is a fire risk, period. The primary reason a dryer might be more is if you don't clean your lint exhaust tube.

[static schooner]

I believe that the food pyramid is based on lobbying from Big Grain

[atomic hinge]

Thanks for the in-depth answers people!

[forest edge]

how dare you question that twinkies are good for you!

[hardy apex]

This old food guide was a crime

as it turns out. Wheat is basically poison if you are affected by celiac disease

[lone dagger]

Carbs carbs carbs and more carbs.

[forest edge]

powdered milk.. the good ole days

[midnight adder]

Is there a way to make it so when I click on my calendar card, it will bring up the larger calendar in the side bar?

[tidal bronze]

That yellow stuff

[rocky oyster]

I have a data source system that I'm thinking about integrating with HA. They have options to stream to MQTT, but unfortunately I don't have access to that. My thoughts are, either I can build a simple MQTT plugin for this app & then manually configure the sensors in HA. Or, I could attempt to build an HA component that reads from the API. The only issue is that with the custom component route, you'd be getting repeat data (timestamp-value) for many devices if you only pull on a periodic basis, unless you keep track of the last timestamp and only update HA if a new value comes in.

[keen bridge]

The developer docs give an overview of how they recommend handling state updates: https://developers.home-assistant.io/docs/core/entity#updating-the-entity

[rocky oyster]

It looks like I can auto create sensors, so that would probably be better than pushing the data

[keen bridge]

Specifically there is a force_update which defaults to false. So if something has a value of 42 and force_update is false, when the "new" state is also 42 HA won't see that as update.

[rocky oyster]

Gotcha. Yeah, and when I state that, I could be talking thousands of devices. So ideally, I'd only grab the changes from the datasource, which would technically be better with a push vs a pull. But this looks pretty easy to integrate on HA's side, so I may test that first

[keen bridge]

If you could use MQTT I'd highly recommend that. If not then you could try the REST integration. But HA has a lot of choices. There might already be a custom component that integrates with whatever system this is.

[forest edge]

dreaming about mustard again?

[rocky oyster]

There is for MQTT. It's just behind a paywall. And I'm not paying $1000+/yr. But I can write my own if needed.

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/pardon-me-mustard-grey-poupon-gif-12901027

[tidal bronze]

That yellow group + mustard, no Bueno

[forest edge]

don't say bueno, always reminds me of this skit https://youtu.be/LMITWgmJV2g?si=WFLjrubn-5C-PyM9

[red rock]

Kinder bueno

[fading surge]

Not sure where the best place for this is, please let me know, but i am wondering if anyone has figured out how to fix the broken custom HACS tapo camera integration, i know there are ways around it by down-versioning the camera's, but i also know there are people who have fixed it in the software, has anyone here fixed it this way or could point me in some direction to do so myself?

[forest edge]

IMHO you should be able to make a post in #1284966582375813201

[atomic hinge]

I was wondering, is there a smart button pusher that can move around?

my parents have this old oven which is hard to remove/replace and i was thinking of allowing preheating the oven from a distance lmao

at whatever temperature you want

[forest edge]

I mean it can be done through complex means, there may even be wifi ovens out there that can be controlled via app and therefore via HA but you will have to take to google and go on a hunt. there is no device that can just move around and control buttons and dials of traditional ovens

inherently this can be a dangerous thing to do, if the oven was to be accidently turned on and forgotten about..

[atomic hinge]

yea of course

i just wanted to see if it was possible

[forest edge]

quick google search shows they do make smart ovens so through that means.. for sure.. otherwise to convert an older oven can be done as well, just more complex and possibly something that will require you to do some coding/soldering etc

[atomic hinge]

i'm a professional programmer so the former part doesn't bother me

[forest edge]

well with devices like esp/pi pico/pi's ect.. it could be done'

[atomic hinge]

Seems like there are some options with regards to 3d printed arms and fingerbot plus, hmmm

[forest edge]

yea but those might also be in the way should you want to actually do it by hand lol

[atomic hinge]

What are you suggesting exactly?

Giving certain electrical signals?

[forest edge]

well any button, dial has leads going to them to the main control board, you can middle man those connections using something like what I listed above

[atomic hinge]

Hmmmm

I will need to experiment with that kind of stuff i'm not good with electricity and wires at all right now

Waay too much of a software guy lmao

[forest edge]

thats why i said more complex lol

[tidal bronze]

So preheat to same temp all the time?

[atomic hinge]

Yea I do see this HA stuff as an opportunity to become more proficient with stuff like that

[atomic hinge]

Just with the press of a button

I'm not concerned with the software part just the mechanical element

[tidal bronze]

I am asking you an oven question.

Start oven > pick temp > preheat

[atomic hinge]

Yes

[tidal bronze]

So where does this one button come in?

[atomic hinge]

It's a microwave oven so you need to select the actual oven setting first

[tidal bronze]

Oh

[atomic hinge]

So you need to basically press 2 different buttons

At the least

[tidal bronze]

Must be so, for safety.

[atomic hinge]

Yep

[tidal bronze]

You can use button pushers to keep it simple.

[atomic hinge]

It was just that i was expecting there'd be some kind of smart switch that could slide left to right

For example

[tidal bronze]

I would take the button panel out and bypass the buttons using an esp

[atomic hinge]

Maybe that's way more advanced than I think it is

[tidal bronze]

Pretty simple

[atomic hinge]

Yea the other person earlier suggested that

[forest edge]

just buy a smart microwave oven from a brand that already has an HA intergration.. would make it much more simple lol

[atomic hinge]

I will consider this but I am afraid this particular model doesn't really let you just take the panel out

[tidal bronze]

You can take a hammer to anything

[atomic hinge]

Yea this was an option from the start

They do need a new oven honestly

[tidal bronze]

Best solution so far

[forest edge]

as much as I grown to dislike LG as a "quality" product.. the HA integration for their appliances seem to work well. my fridge/dishwasher and washing machine/dryer all seem to have plenty of controls through the HA intergration without much issues

it was rocky in the start, but they seemed to ironed out some of the kinks lol

[tidal bronze]

Love LG, integration rocks as well

Washer/dryer busy and TTS is great, I think. Lol

[forest edge]

"Your underwear is now dry"

[royal sundial]

What is TTS? Text to speech?

[tidal bronze]

Yes

[royal sundial]

Is that local network only or does it go via LG servers?

[forest edge]

it's cloud. but all of them are for appliances

[tidal bronze]

I have no idea how laundry happens at the house, but I guess.

[azure rock]

I don't either, I just know I set up automation to let the person that does know how it happens know when it's happened

🤷‍♂️

[atomic delta]

Oh the irony. I bought a hue dimmer switch to make switching hue bulbs over from hue to ZHA easier, figured I'd just bind the dimmer to hue for now until I do the full migration.

Hue's website for adding accessories is down. I literally couldn't add it to hue. So now I have a reason to migrate sooner.

[real frigate]

In case anyone is looking for some really neat ESP-based pixel clocks: The Ulanzi TC001 flashed with Awtrix... chef's kiss

[azure rock]

For me I only have to disconnect it from the Hue hub and then try to pair it with Zigbee within a minute or so of turning it on. Doesn't that work for you?

[atomic delta]

Haven't tried, just read a bunch of people complaining that it wasn't working and they needed the dimmer to get the bulb into pairing mode. Figured I wanted the dimmer anyway, so may as well.

Also, turns out the reason I couldn't add it to hue is because my phone is outdated. Android 9.

I'll update eventually...

[real frigate]

Doing the remote Hue remote method takes patience... I got good enough at it that I know the perfect amount of distance and time to flash any Hue bulb now. lol

[azure rock]

Nobody wants to hear how you flash your electronics. Come on man!

[real frigate]

lmao Please visit my OnlyHueFlashingFans page!!!

[azure rock]

I did, it was a bit dim for my taste

[real frigate]

ta dum hiss Actually... that was solid man... lol

[atomic delta]

I added the dimmer to hue using my SO's phone. Realized it'd probably have a firmware update, and it does.

I'll switch it back to ZHA after it's updated. :P

[azure rock]

I've got all my hue blocked from the Internet, I haven't tried to pair the remaining bulbs, but I'm hoping lack of knowledge about any updates prevents such frustrations.

[atomic delta]

I have all the networked features disabled other than automatic firmware updates, but that means I have literally no way to purge unused/outdated API keys from the bridge, since they blocked being able to do that offline.

Not that you need to, but I like my devices tidy.

[azure rock]

I blocked mine since before their big debacle, fingers crossed. It's on my "one of these days" list

[atomic delta]

Far as I know you need the bridge to apply firmware updates. I don't think you can apply them through ZHA. Otherwise I'd sell off my bridge when I do migrate.

But yeah, I don't like their increasing attempts to get at my data.

[azure rock]

Someone on here posted all the ZHA notices for FW updates on their batch of Hue's, totally disconnected

[tidal bronze]

There you go. Laundry Bliss

[keen bridge]

You can install all the updates via Zigbee2MQTT too. https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/usage/ota_updates.html#ota-updates

[azure rock]

Yea, I didn't think the hub was needed, which surprised me too

[atomic delta]

Yeah, but I don't want to touch z2m if I can avoid it. I'd rather host all devices under ZHA.

[azure rock]

Like I said, whoever posted used ZHA

[keen bridge]

Personally I prefer Z2M, it's nice to be able to add a new device super quickly.

[atomic delta]

Yeah, I'll have to look into that. Definitely useful to know.

[keen bridge]

Plus all the things that don't quite follow standards just work because the whole community puts the effort in.

[azure rock]

Seems to be a split camp of HA users. I've been super happy with ZHA, no problems really

[atomic delta]

Same. ZHA has been smooth and flawless.

[keen bridge]

I started with ZHA and ran into some problems with some brand new devices that weren't supported there yet, but Z2M already had them. Jumped ship and never looked back. Plus there's separation so if I ever screw up HA I can still control everything.

[atomic delta]

I've had exactly one (Tuya) device that needed a custom quirk, and it's a crap device that seems to have gone unresponsive on me anyway, so no big loss there.

(solar rain sensor)

[azure rock]

I tried Tuya once, I still can't sleep after the experience

[tidal bronze]

Didn't want to split the check?

[atomic delta]

Other than routers being a grab bag quality-wise, I've only had issues with the one device I already mentioned.

Weirdly my most reliable router at the moment is a tuya luminance sensor. It's more reliable than the dedicated tuya routers even.

Well, reliable is the wrong word. I've had no reliability issues. But I've had shit signal issues from two routers.

[atomic delta]

Actually, does anyone have any specific recommendations for zigbee routers? Dedicated or not, idc, long as they're decent.

Guess I could open a help thread asking that, but meh.

[static schooner]

That's where you'd get those recommendations

[polar citrus]

yay my rpi's sd card died overnight

guess I'll be reinstalling everything later today

[tender prism]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-rip-sad-sponge-bob-stephen-hillenburg-crying-sponge-bob-squidward-gif-12966776

[polar citrus]

might as well migrate to a nuc while I'm at it

[tender prism]

4 out of 5 known experts HIGHLY Encourage this move.

[forest edge]

at the very least switch from sd card to ssd via usb

[polar citrus]

Feels like living in the stone age, turning lights off and on by hand

[atomic delta]

Pi5 (and I think Pi4?) has an M.2 hat, so no need to go the USB route.

Looks like it may just be Pi5. Single lane PCIe 2.0

[forest edge]

it's usb3 so unless you got some particular like for using that, a usb3 to sata cable will be much cheaper and the speeds will be the same.

the only downside which you might end up having to do anyways if you use dongles, is putting the drive on a powered usb hub

[atomic delta]

The M.2 hat is $12.50, so cheaper is debatable, and it can supply 3A directly with no hanging dongles.

Also I don't think a Pi can boot from USB directly, can it? Would need an SD card still. M.2 hat can direct boot.

[forest edge]

yes it can

[atomic delta]

Huh. Admittedly never tried.

[forest edge]

the older rpi3 needed to have a setting changed prior to enabling it but I think the rpi4 and 5 can do it without needing to do anything these days

[atomic delta]

Ahhh, that would explain it. I only got my Pi5 recently, specifically for HA. I had a 3b before.

Regardless, if you have a Pi5, I'd definitely recommend the hat (assuming you're using a 2230 or 2242)

[forest edge]

I ran my rpi4 with an ssd directly connected for a little over a year but ultimately ended up putting it on a powered hub cause I was also using a skyconnect

not sure how many years I am going, still no issues

[atomic delta]

I have zigbee and zwave dongles connected to my USB 2 ports. Don't want to use the USB 3 since that's going to produce 2.4GHz interference that could affect my zigbee.

[forest edge]

the hub i'm using has a lead, it dosen't sit ontop of the rpi

[atomic delta]

That helps some, long as your cable is shielded.

[forest edge]

again, so many years, no issues lol

[atomic delta]

Fair

[forest edge]

I don't even remember

[atomic delta]

Honestly, the only thing that I'd want to upgrade from my Pi5 for at this point is faster whisper interpretation. I tossed an 8GiB Pi5 at HA, so for everything else I'd want from it it's more than sufficient.

Though I suppose I could just run whisper on a different device.

[forest edge]

nothing wrong with nuc's, especially if you happen to score a decent spec one on sale

I run HA/Frigate and a few other containers off a N100 nuc at my mothers. seem to chug through all that just fine

HA itself along with a few things dosen't really need much. I also run it on an RPI3 in my barn and even deal with feeds from 5 cameras. the memory on the unit never drops below 78% at any given time but it too has ran perfectly fine for 3 or 4 years now

it's running off sdcard so one day that will give me an issue but no way around that for the enviroment it sits in

[polar citrus]

I have a nuc laying around with an i3 and 4gb ish ram, maybe 8, I don't remember

[polar citrus]

I've ran my install on an rpi3 as well for years, no issues whatsoever

Just uh, keep a config backup for when the card dies lol

[atomic delta]

Lol, I just realized I can get a 128GB 2242 SATA M.2 for $16. I may grab the M.2 hat myself at that price.

No reason to bother with NVMe considering the specs on the Pi's PCIe.

Though it looks like the cheapest NVMe version of the same is only $24, so not exactly breaking the bank either way.

[forest edge]

whatever works, the data rate is still gimped even through the pcie

so no point spending more for nothing

[atomic delta]

Oh wait, found an NVMe version for $16.50. I don't mind paying $0.50 for NVMe.

[atomic delta]

Apparently M.2 AI accelerators are a thing. Never even heard of them. But then, I don't ever touch ML stuff.

[ocean oar]

These are favourites for people doing video analytics on low-power machines:
https://coral.ai/products/m2-accelerator-ae

[atomic delta]

I legitimately can't think of any way one would be useful to HA, unless whisper supports it anyway.

And somehow I doubt it does.

[iron granite]

It doesn't.

[forest edge]

if you are still looking for patterns for carving the pumpkin this site has a crap ton. https://www.pumpkinlady.com

[desert cave]

it's pretty much only useful for video object recognition with Frigate, but it's pretty good at that

[forest edge]

https://youtube.com/shorts/TuOjL2RE-OU?si=jSwLo0l_GTd81Q3N

[low harness]

Weird... suddenly my right speaker started making strange noises at random intervals. Sounded like an android bee stuck in a tin can.

I use an old technics mini hifi system for computer speakers, so it's probably a capacitor or something about to give up... but it also seems that 5 minutes of white noise fixed it 🤷

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/bcopC.gif

[lavish pulsar]

Guys, some people and I are having problems with the official Tuya integration! Is there somewhere other than this github thread to report the problem?

https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/129099

[keen bridge]

The best and only place is GitHub. I can tell you I'm in Europe and am not having any issues, which points to this being a geo specific issue and very likely on Tuya's end.

[languid arrow]

TBF, there is some work on making whisper work on int based machines/chips, but I think that's gonna have to be on a bigger memory device, like the hailo stuff.
There is "supposedly" a new hailo10 coming out with 8gb of ram, but we'll see.

[real frigate]

To be fair, Tuya goes down about once a day for me for about 5-6 minutes. Every… day.

[forest edge]

my tuya zigbee devices don't seem to be having any issues...

[keen bridge]

They wouldn't be using the Tuya integration though. Which much like Tuya itself is more like a few misbehaving raccoons in a trench coat.

[forest edge]

i know i was making a joke against using the tuya cloud crap

[keen bridge]

Indeed, but not everyone knows how Tuya stuff "works"

[jaunty breach]

Should I IPV6

[jaunty breach]

I just saw this. I didn't know it was hotspotting. I thought it was just joining

[solar zealot]

At best you would do that through vlans over a vm if it's just two network segments

[tidal bronze]

Random question:
HA setup with 50 (wifi/zigbee/zwave/matter)device/sensors.
Basic automations.
How long will it run without ANY user intervention/updates?
What would fail first?

[solar zealot]

Assuming nothing is actually broken when you set it up, probably till your devices run out of battery

[tidal bronze]

Nothing on battery.

[solar zealot]

Then I guess probably a couple of years

I would trust relays and temp sensors to die first