#the-water-cooler

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forest edge
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I hope @tidal bronze gets one. God knows he needs something that can actually cook

acoustic cloak
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So I am fixing to dive into home assistant
I have only coded a bit and not too familiar. Would anyone have a recommendation for me to start with first? To get my feet wet…

forest edge
acoustic cloak
forest edge
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well HA can be as simple or as complex as you want it to be so you choose the right path

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lol using ai to write the breakup response

desert cave
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I am house sitting for a friend this weekend, and she keeps talking about all these interesting automations she wants to do, and I keep saying "Yup. You want HA. It's good at that, too."

atomic delta
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I want an automation that saves me from wanting to buy dozens of new devices for my HA instance. Where would I find that?

desert cave
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It's already too late, sorry

atomic delta
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I knew it.

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Honestly though, I'm a pretty new user and it's impressed me how fluid HA is. I expected a lot more jank to be honest. Of course, I came to this server in search of help, but considering how much worked before I encountered a hitch I couldn't find a solution to, it's impressive.

desert cave
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yah, definitely agreed :D

brisk glen
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Langflow just became my new favorite python project of the year... Sorry ha

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Being able to set up a bunch of LLM agents that will run around and take care of my online shit is nice

urban wadi
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Is there any password manager integrations that can work through Nabu Casa? I want to host it on either my NAS or on HAOS server but I don't want to bother with opening remote access that is not Nabu Casa.

iron granite
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The HA Cloud does not provide access to services on other ports.

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If the password manager doesn't block iframes, a website dashboard might do the trick. But I'd expect them to block that due to security reasons.

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Vaultwarden seems to block it. Additionaly it would have needed a valid https connection in the website dashboard/card to be accessible remotely.

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If you have an own domain (and control over its DNS entries) and use HAOS, the Cloudflared add-on provides easy access to other services.

urban wadi
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My ASUS router has a ddns service I suppose could be used with Cloudflare add-on. But that would require me to go deep into security measures of my LAN devices. I've been content with Nabu Casa and VPN in for local access. But VPN to access passwords is cumbersome.

iron granite
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Cloudflared does not require any port forwarding in the router. They just require a domain, which DNS records are managed by Cloudflare.

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The HA host connects to the CF tunnel (not the other way around) and via that external access is made.

urban wadi
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Aha. And I suppose enabling DDNS in itself doesn't really add more insecurity. Scanners probably test IP addresses as much as DDNS domains. So enable DDNS - install Cloudfare add-on - install Bitwarden addon - voila?

iron granite
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No DDNS. You need a domain, you have autority over and manage its DNS records at Cloudflare.
Then you configure the add-on where to forward certain subdomains to. The add-on creates a tunnel, HA (well... the add-on) connects to at startup. Cloudflare will create subdomain DNS records for those you configured in the add-on and forward requests to those to your tunnel and thus to the add-on. That forwards the traffic to the according target.

urban wadi
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Hmm... I see. I THINK I may just buy Bitwarden premium and rely on their security. 🫣

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Thanks for explaining the alternative

solar zealot
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You don't need ddns for anything with the cloud flare tunnel

urban wadi
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Yeah, I got that, but you'd need a domain 🙂

solar zealot
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You always need a domain with cloudflare

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Which is a paid commodity

urban wadi
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Yeah, I didn't know until Jorg told me

solar zealot
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Oh it didn't even load any more messages for me

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My bad

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I just saw the I need ddns one ^^

iron granite
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Buying an own domain isn't that expensive, if you don't choose the most fancy ones shksD

solar zealot
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Depending on your access, cctlds can be had for less than two bucks a year (like with de ones)

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But cloudflare has fairly little options available if you want to buy those through them. You can however just use pretty much any that allows you to modify the DNS server records

urban wadi
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It's just another step of possible complications, if you can call it that

iron granite
urban wadi
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I'm trying to simplify all my tech to use less time managing them.

solar zealot
real frigate
solar zealot
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And only the full name in .de which is like 20 chars

urban wadi
real frigate
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It was indeed a joke… too soon I guess… lol

iron granite
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There is also the option to use DDNS to your router and set a port forwarding to Vaultwarden. You would have to get a valid SSL certificate to use Vaultwarden though.

molten ridge
fading ice
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This the best place to discuss some general guidance not speficically related to a problem / issue with HA? Specifically wondering how I could accomplish something in node-red with HA.

solar zealot
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Best is to ask node-red topics in node red specific channel posts

fading ice
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Is there one still? I think the one I used to discuss in is read-only now

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Or am I blind

solar zealot
crisp oriole
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Hmmzz water.

oak flax
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Hey, I'm looking for help on buying a Raspberry Pi to get started with HA. What's the correct channel for this?

coarse horizon
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Hardware

iron granite
oak flax
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I can't seem to find all channels. I can't find installations/hardware

static schooner
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Jorg posted the links

iron granite
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You can either click on the links or head to Channels & Roles and select the available ones there.

oak flax
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Ahh perfect. Thank you

tardy spindle
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Can anyone point out where I could ask questions about floor heating? I have all components available in home assistant but not sure what 'steps' should happen if a thermostat gets into heating mode

real frigate
desert cave
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nothing like remotely tuning automations at home when housemates keep leaving lights on while you're away

lone dagger
crisp oriole
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im going to continue on my youtube video search panel

tender prism
lone dagger
tender prism
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The washing machine needs a mate...

crisp oriole
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I was looking for a video to show of hass for a alexia user

crisp oriole
tender prism
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You still use hass word, kind of a bad thing...

sleek pecan
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Just looking to get pointed in the right direction. Best way to put multiple camera streams on to a Google TV/Chromecast?

tender prism
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What camera, what integration, automation how to do it, that;s ptobably a long form question for one of those.

lone dagger
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Yeah that’s a multiple level question lol.

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😆

sleek pecan
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Sorry, too new to this stuff. They will be RTSP streams using go2rtc. So I can get them into cards no problem, just not sure how to get that to my TV

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Mostly just looking for getting multiple streams on the TV at this point, nothing else fancy (yet)

lone dagger
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There are tags for both in there. 😊

sleek pecan
acoustic cloak
iron granite
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At least there seems to be no native UniFi integration for media players yet.

crisp oriole
solar zealot
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why does it take so long to load the previews

mortal walrus
tardy spindle
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Is it possible to make a average from multiple temperatures reported by thermostats? how would I do this (in node red?)

iron granite
tardy spindle
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Found it 🙂 need to install node red hacs addon, wip!

forest edge
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stupid racoons

ocean oar
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Have you considered coating it in that bitter tasting stuff they sell to stop kids from chewing their nails?

forest edge
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i considered laying down bear traps

fathom sparrow
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lol are they still fucking licking it???

forest edge
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yes. i pulled it down this time. gonna clean it and figure something else out

crisp oriole
tidal bronze
timber stirrup
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where would I even start to look to accomplish this. Mirror the state of two switches. If I turn on A, B turns on as well.

static schooner
timber stirrup
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what am I even looking for?

static schooner
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An automation

desert cave
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start a thread there. I'm actually curious the answer to that as well

static schooner
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Post there

timber stirrup
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ok, so I'll askfor an automation which automates automating to automatically automate?

static schooner
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You already asked a simple question. Just ask it there

timber stirrup
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k, was hoping for some better key words, but I'll start with that

static schooner
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It's literally an automation

timber stirrup
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Well, I'm so new to HA that I didn't even know that

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I just got my first light switches setup tonight

static schooner
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Sure, I just keep repeating it

timber stirrup
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and a doorbell the other night

desert cave
last cedar
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Licking the camera @fathom sparrow ?!

fathom sparrow
crisp oriole
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Put pepper on it.

midnight adder
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Good afternoon, I've got a quick question regarding E27 zigbee bulbs: Hue or Osram (or others)? I need 5 bulbs for the entire apartment and ideally no OEM apps

real frigate
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Hue is the best. Osrams are questionable at best.

midnight adder
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hah, well that answers my question, thank you

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second question would be: Shelly 3EM or pro-3EM?

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preferably for use with esphome/tasmota instead of Chinese botnet firmware

last cedar
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Anything to annoy @forest edge with the filament threats 🤣🤣🤣

real frigate
crisp oriole
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Right the installations in north Korea have doubled again. Now 4 installations

solar zealot
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Someone make a gif of a raccoon licking a dome camera

real frigate
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looks just like @last cedar lol

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lmao at ai generated images

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solar zealot
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Yes lol

real frigate
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Raccoons dressed up as Godzilla destroying things... lol

iron granite
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Raczilla

real frigate
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lol I should not be allowed to create ai images.

last cedar
last cedar
midnight adder
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time to finally install haos and see if it's the golden bullet to all of my needs

real frigate
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It generally can do most things... Everything? Not always. Depends on your needs.

vast egret
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I promise I make no money from this statement but ... my Zooz Titan Water Valve survived being completely submerged int 36" of sea water and sewage from hurricane helene, and a nearly direct hit from hurricane milton. and it still works. amazing.

midnight adder
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woah hope u had good insurance

real frigate
vast egret
vast egret
real frigate
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Yup. I know it. Been to that area quite a few times as a kid.

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Glad you didn't get smacked too hard by Milton... back to back storms like that... insane.

vast egret
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my zooz temp/humidity sensors survived being completely submerged, my airtags also survived. you know what didn't' survive? those stupid zooz water sensors that aren't waterproof 🙄

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i bought a handful of the upgadeded 800LR ones that are waterproof when they were on sale... going to test those out as replacements 😎

real frigate
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lol!!! Yeah, my basement flooded in Helene and I thought for sure my ThirdReality sensors were toast (also not waterproof, because reasons). After drying out for a couple of days, they're back to working again.

vast egret
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the water sensors had salt and sewage water in them... i wasn't inclined to try to clean and save them

midnight adder
real frigate
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I'm in western-ish NC, so no salt water... but just the amount of rain that dropped... I honestly thought most of my outdoor gear would be toast but all of it survived.

real frigate
midnight adder
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yay

vast egret
real frigate
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The "aliexpress zigbee switches" could, maybe be problematic.

midnight adder
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zigbee tuya shit

real frigate
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THAT

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YUP

midnight adder
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oh, those aren't generic enough to just work?

vast egret
real frigate
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Tuya Zigbee sucks usually. Some people have good results with them, but more often than not, they just suck all around.

real frigate
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They might just work, but usually when we get zigbee questions about "this sensor/switch/plug stopped working", it's a Tuya device.

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But, also make sure you have enough routing devices. That's the other most common issue.

midnight adder
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routing devices?

real frigate
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Since you said switches, I'm guessing they are mains powered?

midnight adder
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I just got a zigbee dongle with a small rp-sma antenna

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no no, cr2032 powered

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switches as in the light button things

real frigate
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They aren't mains powered?

midnight adder
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they're... wait I'll find a pic

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stick-on round ones

real frigate
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Gotcha

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Yeah, you're going to want to get some mains powered Zigbee devices. They act as routers and extend the range of your mesh.

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Depending on where you are in the world will determine what's available. If you're US based, ThirdReality smart plugs are cheap and great as routers.

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In other parts of the world, IKEA plugs and bulbs can work as well.

midnight adder
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I got those 2 types and it's a small apartment

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I want a star topology, just the USB dongle as "router(?)"

real frigate
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Yup... those are end devices. You'll want to get a couple of Zigbee smart plugs or blubs to act as routing devices.

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Nope. Zigbee is a mesh protocol.

midnight adder
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I'm fully expecting those to be just sleepy end devices

real frigate
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The coordinator is the gateway between your software controller and the devices, but routing devices do almost all of the heavy lifting between the software and the end devices.

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They will be sleepy end devices, but they will wake up to report "things". To do that, they will want to do it through a routing device.

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@midnight adder Create a post in #1284966617670881350 with the Zigbee tag and I can give you pointers.

midnight adder
real frigate
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It doesn't work that way though 🙂

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You're thinking like WiFi. Zigbee isn't like WiFi that way.

midnight adder
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and by gateway I mean a CC2652 stick... and I think that will be handled by zigbee2mqtt

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I may be wrong

real frigate
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Create a topic in #1284966617670881350 and I'll get you sorted out 🙂 (we don't do support in this channel)

midnight adder
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from what you've gathered about my intent, am I missing a non-optional component?

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cuz if not, I think I should first actually install HAOS and ask for help once I have problems

real frigate
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Kinda yeah... You'll need at least a couple-few routing devices. Otherwise, you're gonna have a bad time with your Zigbee devices. 🙂 That's why I'm trying to get you to create a thread. I can [hopefully] save you from start-up issues.

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But, to give you an idea, this is my Zigbee mesh:

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solar zealot
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This isn't a mesh this is a cloud lol

real frigate
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lol it's a pretty, HAPPY cloud.

midnight adder
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my apartment is 48 square meters and the wifi router and haos-pc are in like 10m (30ft) radius to the farthest node

real frigate
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Again... you're thinking in terms of WiFi... Zigbee doesn't work like WiFi.

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Zigbee is a mesh protocol and the coordinator (gateway, whatever) doesn't like to connect directly to end devices. Routing devices handle that in the mesh topology.

midnight adder
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I get that it's a mesh protocol but I don't know the logic topology like if it's all broadcasts or what

real frigate
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That's what I'm trying to teach you 🙂

midnight adder
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ok well thanks, I'll create a thread and thanks for willingness to teach me

real frigate
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No problem. 🙂 I'm happy to help and hopefully keep you from banging your head against the desk. lol

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Just tag me in whatever thread you create and I'll jump in.

forest edge
real frigate
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lol I dunno? It be weird like that.

tender prism
# vast egret 😦

Let me guess. You exceeded the 5 amp rating and connected it to a device with a motor or something...

vast egret
lone dagger
tardy spindle
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Im getting login attempt or request with invalid authentication from supervisor to /api/core/state, im not sure why this is happening? im only using zigbee2mqtt, node red and hacs (for node red companion)
any idea?

tidal bronze
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It's that time huh?

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forest edge
tidal bronze
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Yes yes yes on so many measures that will increase tax and use bonds

tidal bronze
iron granite
forest edge
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evil critters

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why can't they be good like these other animals

iron granite
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The revenge for the filament threats

solar zealot
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Sonoma are you sure this isn't a raccoon farm

forest edge
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Really do need to start hunting them for thier pelts

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make a bag for @last cedar

static schooner
tender prism
stuck mortar
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On the internet, nobody knows you’re a raccoon

static schooner
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Some people come right out and say it

tardy spindle
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whats going on with HA im getting Add-on Mosquitto broker has been removed from the repository it was installed from lol

forest edge
static schooner
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Hmmm..bears a striking resemblance to the raccoons on your camera

last cedar
static schooner
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boop

last cedar
forest edge
cursive canyon
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hello fellow water cooler friends

lost berry
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Hi

red rock
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Love this message

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I just keep that 1 weight at me juist to get this message

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I only need to finish point lookout and then I can move to new Vegas

forest edge
cursive canyon
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I hope they make a Fallout 5 soon

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a proper release, not Fallout 76

tidal bronze
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What a weekend, 1 more day to go. Love Denzel weekend

last cedar
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Only if it looks like this

crisp oriole
trim imp
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If I want to use 2 home assistants in my home
One to test stuff and one as primary. How do I make them not conflict about the homeassistant.local:8123
Port

crisp oriole
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Use a diffrent hostname

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The ip always works

forest edge
trim imp
tardy spindle
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My home assistant keeps restarting randomly because it cant reach itself, like supervisor or something. My internet seems fine so what could cause this? Can it be the 1gb of ram on my rpi 3 even though it only seems to use around 80% rn

iron granite
timber spoke
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Hi guys, is it possible to run a virtualization software through HAOS?

peak slate
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Wait, you want to use haos as the hypervisor?

solar zealot
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No this is not possible

peak slate
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You can run something like proxmox on your machine, and haos in that, alongside other VMs (it's what I do)

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You can find integrations to control your hypervisor to start/stop vms from home assistant too

desert cave
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yeah, I'm going the proxmox route too

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I mean, HAOS is linux, so it's possible to install a hypervisor on it, but it's definitely not supported, and probably a lot of work to set up and maintain

static schooner
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it wouldn't be HAOS anymore

peak slate
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Run ha supervised on Debian, install kvm and qemu, but yeah that's not haos

static schooner
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please don't do that

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that is not a supported configuration

iron granite
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Whenever you think HA Supervised might be a good solution for something, it most likely isn't.

peak slate
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I am a fount of bad ideas 😈

fathom sparrow
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Oh just wait, debian 11 is deprecated next supervisor

static schooner
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It will continue to be an issue as long as it's presented as an official installation method for new users. To start, it should disappear from the main installation page

desert cave
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wait, is HAOS still on debian 11?

iron granite
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No. HAOS is not Debian based

desert cave
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ooh okay.. misread that

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I see what you're saying now

iron granite
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HA Supervised is "supported" on Debian (specific versions) only

tender prism
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I throw this at people having supervised problems...
With that advanced installation method you are responsible for maintaining all dependencies.

desert cave
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(also, good. It's not hard to upgrade Debian)

tender prism
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Core is 'supported' as well, but not much help there either.

desert cave
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I'm dealing with $work's dev team being eternally slow about supporting newer releases of Debian, so I may be a bit salty about people not upgrading, lol

static schooner
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The only sane way to approach this is to use a Hypervisor outside of HA to host HA as one of the VMs, ala Proxmox or manual KVM or...

desert cave
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yeah, agreed

peak slate
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I like my ha supervised install, also I recognize that if it goes belly up, it's all on me to fix

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I probably ran an even less supported install on Ubuntu

lone dagger
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Chat you ever just like forget to clean your glasses and then you realize how gross they are being in the right light

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Time to wash my glasses, I guess.

feral flower
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I needed to know that 🙂

static schooner
lone dagger
lone dagger
real frigate
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Super simple solution... don't wear glasses... What's so important that you actually need to SEE it? 🤣

feral flower
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That's philosophy

static schooner
forest edge
static schooner
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takes time to clean properly, but instantaneous to make dirty

lone dagger
iron granite
static schooner
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and just using a microfiber cloth isn't enough to remove oil from fingers touching the lenses, gotta go through the whole process again

ruby herald
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Is there a notion of nightlies? Or do I have to wait until the next beta. Context: a fix was merged and is scheduled for the next core release. I am impatient to get it. I guess building is beyond my knowledge/available_time.

static schooner
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the dev tag is nightly

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it will, of course, come with a bunch of other stuff, and you're on your own if it breaks

ruby herald
static schooner
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or the equivalent section for whatever HA installation methiod you chose

ruby herald
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Thanks, that looks quite simple. There is that scary warning. I never had an actual issue with releases. Is there a big stability gap between the two?

static schooner
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impossible to say day to day

ruby herald
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Making the jump. 🤞

feral flower
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You just have to think whether your household would cope if all the smarts stopped working for a couple of days

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If so then fine

ruby herald
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@feral flower indeed. Since it is to fix some not working smarts, it's worth the try.

weak musk
agile eagle
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Good day

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My googling didn’t turn up much so maybe I worded it wrong. How does home assistant handle trigger id’s if they appear in more than one branch?

keen bridge
tough dome
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is there any way to get logs from proxmox cli of HAOS?

need some help with my ha server on proxmox. It was working for about 3 months. now i have to reboot to be able to login, and it only lasts a moment before it disconnects

lone dagger
real frigate
keen bridge
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She might have done a few other things in that time!

real frigate
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lol probably. But still. I have to ask because… me.

mental peak
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Can anyone recommend a doorbell?

real frigate
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Reolink WiFi (or POE) doorbell.

keen bridge
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Or, how about you post in the right place?

real frigate
mental peak
real frigate
keen bridge
real frigate
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LOVE my Reolink doorbell. The integration is super solid and well featured.

real frigate
mental peak
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Which works best with Frigate?

keen bridge
real frigate
lone dagger
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So, it was a process.

real frigate
lone dagger
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I have stuff to do this morning I should have done on Friday.

mental peak
real frigate
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Yup. If you have PoE (or can run PoE), otherwise the WiFi version is just as good.

mental peak
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PoE sounds nice. Wired internet AND power?

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You need a cable either way I guess.

real frigate
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PoE is fantastic, but not a lot of people run it to their door.

mental peak
real frigate
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I was going to, but I already had 24v running there from a previous doorbell and I got lazy.

real frigate
mental peak
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Weirdly, I see no doorbell and no wiring near my door, however, there is a chime with no visible wiring

real frigate
lone dagger
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I shouldn't have, lol. It's stuff for the hardware team.

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🫣

kind basin
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I have a hub that I would like to see running hassos. I have been playing around with it, have the device tree etc. from yocto that was originally running on it. I am struggling though, and could use some help. Where would I turn? Is there a channel here that fit? Hardware was my first thought, but this seems a bit low-level for that.

real frigate
kind basin
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No, a full on smart hub, developed by a previous company I worked for. They shut down their efforts, and I was asked if I wanted to to anything with the stocks of hubs they have. I already have HA running in a container, but I would want to get hassos running before checking if they can be sold on Amazon. Is a rather nice piece of hardware, with two mighty gecho silabs chips, zwave (on some), 4G, ethernet, wifi, backup battery, and a rather nice design that has a good WAF.

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I can give installation a go.

fathom sparrow
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i want one

forest edge
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a hub with zigbee/zwave/4G/Lan and battery backup? wtf

kind basin
# fathom sparrow i want one

That can be arranged. There are loads in the warehouse. Would like to make it run HAOS before shipping them though.

upper mural
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Can anyone offer any advice on downgrading firmware on a zigbee device please? I updated an Ikea switch last night and half the functionality no longer works. There are others in forums reporting the same, but I wondered if any of you fine people may know how I can put the old firmware file back?

iron granite
upper mural
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Thank you very much Jorg

kind basin
forest edge
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oooff it has 1 gig of ram

real frigate
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That’s gonna be constraining…

forest edge
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found a pdf that gives a little more info. don't think the thing has enough HP to drive HAos

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looks like it's slower than an rpi3

kind basin
# forest edge not seeing any hardware specs aside from connectivity

It is running imx8mm dual core, 1GB ram, 8GB MMC flash. I have some early dev board with 4 core and 8/32, and could produce more like that once I help empty the warehouse.
The zigbee and bluetooth chips (yes, we had 2 of them, not sure if the later models dropped one) is the EFR32MG21 chips. A 700 series zwave chip, Silabs 2.4GHz (easy to make work well with the zigbee for sharing the band) and a not used 5GHz wifi chip.
Even with 1GB of swap it runs my house with about 150 devices rather smoothly, this was my main worry. The swap is required tho, but as of now it works surprisingly well after setting up the swap as recommended (1GB swap). The RAM is probably a limiting factor for some functionality, but for myself it covers all my needs, and it is not slow.

forest edge
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so yea. right around rpi3

kind basin
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That is about right.

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I was thinking to put these out there for quite cheap. The 4G NBIoT modem and backup battery added a lot of production cost.

forest edge
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the gig ram is going to cut it's viability for many things off at the knees. I run haos on an rpi3 in my barn but it dosen't have a lot of demand on it so it runs fine but it would never be able to handle what my system in my home handles

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the connectivity and battery backup is sweet tho

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I would replace my pi in my barn with it, athough it looks too fancy for a barn lol

kind basin
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Yeah, I don't expect the typical HA expert to make use of these for a big setup. I do use the lower spec ones with only ethernet and ZB as zigbee2mqtt gateways, which is working really well. Same everything except depopulated board.

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I would probably not be able to match the price of an rPi, but the fully specced one I was thinking 100€ or so, just to empty the warehouse. It would not leave much of a profit tbh, but I am not looking to get rich from this. If I manage to empty the warehouse, then I can produce with the specs I would like, so 4 core, 8GB/32GB etc. Those would be quite capable I think.

ocean oar
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If you could make it do serial-over-ethernet, it could probably be a useful hub for zigbee/zwave/bluetooth (and presumably a speaker) connected to a HA VM though, even with those specs. At least as long as the power consumption isn't too high, that is

kind basin
forest edge
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you would have better results turning it into what it was designed for but just compatible with HA. like a remote device.

kind basin
forest edge
real frigate
forest edge
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a fresh install of haos on an rpi 3 idles using around 75% of it's memory

real frigate
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Although, if it could somehow host something like Z2M, ZW2JS, and MQTT in a single box? That would be really interesting.

forest edge
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@kind basinbuild an HA integration for it's stock firmware. allow the connectivity it has to pass into HA.. it would be very useful in that manor

kind basin
# forest edge it would struggle when you cross the threshold of too many automations/sensors e...

Well, I have about 150 devices running, but I have limited automations, just a few light controls, some timers etc.
I think it many don't use it for much more than that.
The smart home system we wrote for it was focused on efficiency, so we would run on things like VDSL modems with 128MB of ram etc, spending only about 35MB of memory. It did not end up profitable though, thus the current situation.

real frigate
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That’s largely the problem with home automation “hubs” though. Once you get above the limitations, the device becomes e-waste at that point. But @forest edge has a fantastic idea for using it.

kind basin
forest edge
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not saying you couldn't get HA to run on it. but it's experince would be limited to like what you use ir for or what I would use it for which unfortunitly most people start low in HA then blow up bypassing what it's hardware could handle

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i myself am starting to reach the max of what my RPI4 I run HA here at home can handle

kind basin
forest edge
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so reflash them to using a very basic linux os. then people could do whatever they wanted with them

real frigate
kind basin
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I just don't want to leave anyone stranded on a custom HA system due to me not being able to keep up with updates and so on.

forest edge
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you release something that has that, you'll see people create all kinds of shit for it lol

real frigate
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I’d have a field day with a device like that.

kind basin
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I could send you one :-p

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Seriously though, I could, and share how to flash it etc. It is locked down somewhat though. I flashed mine with a minimal yocto, and installed portainer, then installed the HA and a VPN container. That has been running for a good while now.

real frigate
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Hmmmm how locked down is “locked down”? Like, could I shoehorn something like puppy on it? Or buildroot?

hollow glacier
real frigate
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lol shush. I haz ideas!!!

kind basin
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Sure. So if you know how to connect to it, you would need a USB to pin-header cable (easy to make), and you can flash it directly. To log in to the current firmware I could share the SSH key for each device (they are one per).

kind basin
real frigate
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I’ve got a few other projects I’m in right now, but I’ll keep the post you created bookmarked and come back to you in like a week or so?

silent doveBOT
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@kind basin I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
iron granite
real frigate
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I’d like to see docker on it and then load Z2M on it as a test.

kind basin
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As you see, the load is not terrible.

forest edge
kind basin
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Is there no "code block" thing in discord?

forest edge
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like this

silent doveBOT
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To format your text as code, enter three backticks on the first line, press Enter for a new line, paste your code, press Enter again for another new line, and lastly three more backticks.
```yaml
example: here
```
Don't forget you can edit your post rather than repeatedly posting the same thing.

forest edge
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incase what you want with 3 `

kind basin
# 
root@kraken:~# docker ps
CONTAINER ID        IMAGE                           COMMAND                  CREATED             STATUS              PORTS                                                      NAMES
bd9eb6491a8e        koenkk/zigbee2mqtt:latest       "docker-entrypoint.s…"   9 months ago        Up 2 days           0.0.0.0:8080->8080/tcp                                     zigbee2mqtt
68e1ac8da341        portainer/portainer-ce:latest   "/portainer"             12 months ago       Up 54 years         0.0.0.0:8000->8000/tcp, 0.0.0.0:9443->9443/tcp, 9000/tcp   portainer
root@kraken:~# free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        977556     440376     537180      17060      13768     197100
-/+ buffers/cache:     229508     748048
Swap:            0          0          0
root@kraken:~#
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That is running Z2M. That is a low spec system though, so only ZB and ethernet.

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The uptime of that portainer is... not entriely correct.

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For my HA system:

root@kraken:~# docker ps
CONTAINER ID        IMAGE                                          COMMAND                  CREATED             STATUS              PORTS                                                      NAMES
b5dc5401abe7        eclipse-mosquitto                              "/docker-entrypoint.…"   12 months ago       Up 4 months         0.0.0.0:1883->1883/tcp, 0.0.0.0:9001->9001/tcp             mosquitto
608b3c3d7468        ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable   "/init"                  12 months ago       Up 4 months                                                                    homeassistant
9a0b5596779c        portainer/portainer-ce:latest                  "/portainer"             12 months ago       Up 4 months         0.0.0.0:8000->8000/tcp, 0.0.0.0:9443->9443/tcp, 9000/tcp   portainer
root@kraken:~#```
forest edge
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@tidal bronze I gotta clean the cow poop off my polaris tires before having tubes put in. want me to baggy some of that up to send you? seems like maybe something you might snack on after seeing the shit you posted you were eating the other day

kind basin
#

Might be going way outside the topic of this chat at this point. Sorry to whoever manages this chat if that is the case.

lone dagger
forest edge
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as long as you don't ask for help with anything involving HA you are fine

tidal bronze
kind basin
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Seems you guys find this somewhat interesting then. I will add some more info to my post in installation.

tidal bronze
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We beach boys, this is Polaris for us 🤣

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iron granite
forest edge
red rock
crisp oriole
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The instagram account of my washing machine is taking off.

desert cave
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hot laundry loads in your area

iron granite
desert cave
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it's just the clothes lol

real frigate
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ClothesFans

crisp oriole
iron granite
tidal bronze
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Gotta get the nails done you know.

forest edge
lone dagger
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Lol that's when you just need to see a podiatrist. 🤣

iron granite
lone dagger
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I cannot imagine letting my toes get that way.

tidal bronze
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I feel the same when they use gloss instead of matte

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After seeing all these head spas in Istanbul, gotta head over there. I hate tok

forest edge
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head spa huh?

tidal bronze
forest edge
tidal bronze
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Soap? Hmmm no.

forest edge
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if you are craving that much contact from another man you should look into sumo wrestling. at least you would be accomplishing more than just having your face smacked and rubbed

tidal bronze
forest edge
tidal bronze
forest edge
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No army, @last cedar wanted like 50 bags made out of them...

tidal bronze
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Finally I can filter by delivery type. Google is getting better. So glad I can turn off Frigate notifications

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forest edge
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The package appears to be making a ticking noise...

tidal bronze
#

Wife asked me, why do you wanna know?

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Homekit BT proxy is not reliable. Bummer.

atomic delta
#

Are there any premade voice assistant devices (echo, dot, whatever) that can be used 100% offline through HA? I always just assumed that would be an automatic no.

forest edge
atomic delta
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Fair enough

crisp oriole
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Good morning europe

tacit acorn
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if you guys had an automation which used slightly different digits as triggers depending on the time of year, would you add an if-then statement in the action and make it one large automation, or just add the date as a condition in two separate automations?

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as in one for the first date range, and one for the other

real frigate
gleaming crater
#

Has anybody ever considered turning DOWN their z-wave controller signal strength to force nodes to mesh with neighbors?

fathom sparrow
hardy apex
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in time, we'll have 1 channel in # support where people can type without making a thread. it may take a while but it will arrive.

iron granite
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Don't hold your breath

pulsar bison
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Anyone here a vscode wiz? Windows used to show my remote-hosts where the pink box was, so I could immediately go straight into a remote host.. but that's missing it seems.

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fathom sparrow
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or restart the menu

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the search frequently breaks over time

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Also, those areas are just "recent folders"

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if your recent folders were cleared, they won't show up

forest edge
pulsar bison
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Bingo, that was it! 🙂 Thx

fading hazel
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I'm gathering info on an on-premises door access control system. Am I crazy or would HA be a good controller for that system? Wireless RFID (badge) readers, wireless smart door locks, and HA. How would HA handle user management? Is there an integration already? Please redirect me if I'm way off base here. Thanks 🙂

lone dagger
light spindle
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so, I need a camera with a decent wifi to put on a garage that is a floor down through concrete flooring

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anyone has brand references

hexed spade
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Anyone else with borked EasyTime templates …. Didn’t read yet, but found no breaking changes.

light spindle
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well I posted a thread about the camera stuff on the hardware forum

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I miss the hardware channel

lone dagger
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WELL ARE YOU IN LUCK

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#the-workshop is for people who miss that quick chat hardware stuff. In depth conversations will be asked to be moved into a support channel, though.

fathom sparrow
hexed spade
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None of my translations work. Not at the desk now so need to check a bit later

fathom sparrow
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can you elaborate?

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if they aren't working you get a ?

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if they are wrong, I need to know how

hexed spade
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Datetimes all in English

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Days, months

fathom sparrow
#

did you just blindly update?

hexed spade
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Yes…

fathom sparrow
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If you remember, you need to adjust your language in the file

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open it up and set it to whatever your language is

hexed spade
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I did long time ago

fathom sparrow
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right, but updates overwrite that portion of the file

hexed spade
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A I see, as I said, let me check… sorry for being too hasty

fathom sparrow
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Well, some other guy wrote up an issue about month, but I'm skeptical

#

I did make a ton of changes IIRC

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should be faster

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I also may have broken something

peak slate
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This is all I thought about when you said it should be faster

workflow_2x1.png
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Just add in an option for spacebar heating!

hexed spade
desert cave
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whee! My 800lbs of batteries are out for delivery today :D

hexed spade
last cedar
desert cave
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home battery system :D I'm tired of PG&E taking too much money, so going to store excess solar energy, instead of selling it to them and buying it back at night

last cedar
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Sweet, that must be a fairly serious battery

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I have been looking at a sungrow system, battery and hybrid inverter

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Unsure how to mount solar panels though, ground mount looks likely

fading hazel
ocean oar
last cedar
ocean oar
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I'm lucky, I just drive the forklift and some other poor sucker gets to cart them into the datacentre

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When we get truckloads of servers though, sadly those are my problem. As you say, gets your exercise in

last cedar
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That would be ideal haha, I will have to lift these one at a time from a pallet truck, there are no large open spaces 😦

midnight adder
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goood eveniiing

last cedar
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I love your avatar!

brave scarab
brave scarab
midnight adder
azure rock
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"The Cave Johnson" sounds like caveman adult fare. Just sayin. 😂

midnight adder
#

I'm on the verge of ordering either 4pcs sonoff TRVZB or a single Aqara... is aqara worth being double the price of sonoff? I actually only need a single thermostat

forest edge
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Mock nitro booster color. understood!

midnight adder
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nevermind, there's singles of trvzb on aliexpress instead of amazon

#

and it has more ergonomic display location/orientation (right angle vs coaxial)

ocean oar
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I would look for people's reviews on battery life. From what I've seen of those things they tend to be fairly spectacularly arse in that regard

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Notable perhaps that the Sonoff takes 3xAA and the Aqara only 2?

forest edge
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this shit is going to cause many electronics have to be activated prior to them even working, much like what they done to some power tools. https://youtu.be/aR2T2D3daGg?si=v_mSr2nds2hcICsa

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midnight adder
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tho funny enough that could be a easily calculatable ROI if the yearly battery cell consumption differs

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it kinda looks like the sonoff might only be turning the heater either fully on or fully off with little or nothing in between and thus do a shitload of cycles

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I kinda just want those things to heat the bathroom to reduce air humidity

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anything should work... well, answered my own question, thanks

hexed spade
fathom sparrow
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ya, i need translations for that

fathom sparrow
forest edge
winter shuttle
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what does this mean for self hosted HA users

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that integrate with Google Home

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got this email like about 30 minutes ago

forest edge
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wouldn't be a bad idea to go back in after and relearn how the console then is setup. I'm sure the directions for new users on the HA site will have to be updated

hexed spade
crisp oriole
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GOOD MORING EUROPE!!

forest edge
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no europe here

deft lantern
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Anyone able to assist me with HA crashing atm? Happy to pay someone for their time to check the logs ASAP

forest edge
deft lantern
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Yeah I just need to head off from where the machine is in about 30 minutes so was trying to shoot my shot for some immediate help

crisp oriole
forest edge
crisp oriole
red rock
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It's still morning somewhere

fading hazel
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It’s early morning in the eastern us

iron granite
red rock
crisp oriole
solar zealot
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Isn't the weather in the Netherlands always hot n ghastly

crisp oriole
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No the weather in the netherlands is always diffrent.

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I once met a russian who was complaining about the cold in the netherlands

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In the winter.

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I said isnt it like very cold in russian. Yeah he said but this is a diffrent kind of cold

fathom sparrow
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@hexed spade I don't follow your comment in the PR you made, are you saying you need to verify that what you added is correct?

hexed spade
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Yes, I am not sure the {hour + 1} phrase would be correct in the template

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Or you 😉

fiery socket
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what's the preferred way to turn weather forecast into an entity to use later on ?

iron granite
fiery socket
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wait, im confused. am i supposed to create an automation?

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ah, it's template sensor ?

iron granite
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No a template entity

fiery socket
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under helpers

iron granite
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Either sensor or weather.

iron granite
fiery socket
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dear gods. why, tho? that data is already in HA, why would anyone think that's a good idea to duplicate this data O_O

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i mean, thanks for explaining, but still.

iron granite
fiery socket
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it's utterly backwards....

fathom sparrow
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keep in mind, I know 0 things about nl

fathom sparrow
hexed spade
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time = 20:30, english: half past eight, dutch: half nine. So I did 'past {hour} -> half {hour + 1}

fathom sparrow
#

interesting

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I get it now

fiery socket
fathom sparrow
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put in a FR for that please

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ok, then you don't need a template sensor

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just use the service call to get the data and use it in the automation

fiery socket
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i need these numbers as i do math on top of them later on.

fathom sparrow
#

ok, that still doesn't change what I said 😉

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service call to get data, then variables action to manipulate data

fiery socket
#

so you're telling me i'm to duplicate whatever "serivce" thing multiple times instead doing it prior to the automation?

fathom sparrow
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then use variable later on

fathom sparrow
fiery socket
#

yes

fathom sparrow
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you can always write a script that gives you the information and call the script as your first action

fiery socket
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i used to have that in a template

fathom sparrow
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You don't need a template entity

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you can do this all without a template entity

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without redundancy as well

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if you want it to persist in the UI, then you create a template entity

fiery socket
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ok, so long story short: i had a template that was combining few sensors plus the forecast (that i also plotted for visibility) that i used in multiple automations

fathom sparrow
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you had a template what? Entity?

fiery socket
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yes, sorry for not making it clear

fathom sparrow
#

Ok, so you're complaining about needing to make an aditional template entity to use forcast when you already had a template entity using the forecast?

fiery socket
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(im coming from an old not-upgraded HA that had weather working, until no more 😉 )

fiery socket
fathom sparrow
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I'm going off what you're saying

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You said you had a template entity that did a calculation using forecast

fiery socket
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alright, so i may have got things wrong

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yes, i was calling whatever weather.temperature directly

fathom sparrow
#

Ok, then all you need to do is change that template entity to use the get_forecasts service

fiery socket
#

and it doesnt work anymore as weather integrations do not expose that anymore

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so i replace that weather.temperature with "{{ hourly['weather.home'].forecast[0].temperature }}" ?

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more-or-less

fathom sparrow
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you also need to make the service call, make a post in #1284966664357810196 if you need further help.

fiery socket
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ok, so why does it require the service call?

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that's the part i dont understand

fathom sparrow
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because the data is not tracked in history or on the entity anymore

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i.e. it's not filling your database with trash anymore

fiery socket
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that's what i dont get. that's supposed to be my decission, not devs?

fathom sparrow
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unfortunately they write the software, not you

fiery socket
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just like tomorrow.io still provides everything but the forecast as independent entities, fortunately

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ones i can enable or disable accordingly...

fathom sparrow
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alright, do you want to fix your template or do you want to complain?

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I'm not here to listen to complaints, I have no control over what happened

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nor does anyone else here

fiery socket
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im not complaining at you, to be clear

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it feels backwards to break user experience

fathom sparrow
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The change happened over a year ago

iron granite
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But it is, what we have to use

fathom sparrow
#

you missed the deprecation by 8 months, and the initial announcement by 14 months

fiery socket
#

i wonder what % of HA deployments were just installed once and just live in their state forever

fathom sparrow
#

August 2023 is when it was announced and it's been flooding logs since

fathom sparrow
fiery socket
#

that assumes, wrongly, they're exposed to the world

peak slate
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Nope

fathom sparrow
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a sample size of 300K is good enough representation for the world...

peak slate
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Just that they have analytics turned on

fiery socket
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out of my 4 instalations only one talks to the world

peak slate
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Mine isn't open either, but analytics are turned on so it is represented there

fathom sparrow
#

ok, and your single situation doesn't represent what everyone else is doing

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that's called "confirmed bias"

fiery socket
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i'm saying it's not guaranteed your numbers are representative either

fathom sparrow
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do you want help with your issue or do you want to continue to be upset about something out of your control?

peak slate
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300k is a statistically significant sample size

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We could go over basic stats and how that works, but I don't feel like that'll add much here

fiery socket
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it's like saying "all the people i cant see are green".

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just because i cant see them, i cant make an assumption about them

iron granite
#

From forecasts to statistics and philosophy. pop

fiery socket
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🙂

fathom sparrow
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We have numbers on how many times things were downloaded, it's a very good representation of the userbase.

fiery socket
#

not really. 300k is a representative sample of peoples preferences. it is not representative of number of installations in the world

fathom sparrow
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my guy, you either don't understand statistics, or you're trolling

hexed spade
fathom sparrow
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Thanks marius, will look into this at some point, maybe this weekend. Have other things to get in for beta

hexed spade
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sure, glad I could add my bit there 😉

fiery socket
fathom sparrow
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It'll either be a really easy change or something I have to spend hours on. I have to revisit the code, I wrote it years ago an never committed it

fathom sparrow
#

i.e it's better than most statistical representations of userbases

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20% of installs are older than 5 months. It gets exponentially smaller the further out you go.

#

Oh, we are at 400k now

fiery socket
#

out of ones that do report back. now i'd argue that ones that dont (ie: are local only) have higher chance of being also older

#

and not updated for a long time, just because they do what they were expected to do

fathom sparrow
#

whatever you want to tell yourself

real frigate
#

@fiery socket If you really need entities and don't want to do a templated sensor with the service call, use PirateWeather, set it up as documented and you have your entities back. SImple solution and then the complaints can cease.

fathom sparrow
#

Many of the built in weather providers also have these entities as well

fiery socket
iron granite
#

You want to know in two weeks how the weather has been predicted three days later?

fiery socket
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i do track for example pollutants this way

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forecast vs values

iron granite
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I would expect to track actual pollutant values and not predictions retrospectively.

fathom sparrow
#

WAQI

fiery socket
#

otherwise i have a number of automations that rely on forecast temperatures, i dont collect that, but i dont mind, given it'd be a single entity out of thousands by now

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it was very easy to refer to them by entity ids, without any (from my pov) much more advanced configurations

#

sure, i get the idea of making things more standarized, but then, why not expose weather.tomorrowio.forecast[0].temperature as a handle to use like entity?

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it's there already..

fathom sparrow
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the data is not stored in the state machine

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it's stored elsewhere

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and it needs an async call to access it, therefore it cannot be done by templates which are not async

fiery socket
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alright. that's a technical explaination. and i get that

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doesn't invalidate the point that it makes "reaching for the data" more difficult for less advanced users. and i had thought that it was the goal of HA. and that was the point i tried to make. either way, i'm on the way of installing pirateweather, which is going to, hopefully, solve my issues

fathom sparrow
#

repeating what you're saying doesn't affect any of us

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we've been dealing with this for 14 months

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we've literally heard it all

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it's a dead horse

fiery socket
#

hah. alright

fathom sparrow
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please move on.

fiery socket
#

you just gave me deja vu from gnome discussions

frozen arrow
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Hello people, new to the world of home assistant looking forward to getting everything setup at my studio 🙂

peak slate
#

Welcome to the rabbit hole

mighty rose
frozen arrow
peak slate
frozen arrow
#

haha well that is true

peak slate
#

Less harsh than the overhead lights at night

mighty rose
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ahahahh yaaaassss

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that's pretty much what I normally use it for

#

its an ESP8266 + WLED

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usually, its single orange colour, no animation and ~10-20% brightness

peak slate
#

I also have an esphome keypad on my night stand to control it

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And the overhead fan, and a bunch of other things

mighty rose
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ahhhh - do you use WLED for LED strip? I couldn't get ESPHome to do smooth animated stuff with the ESP8266.... like - it just didn't compare at all

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I'm at ~150 LEDs on the ESP8266 now - and it gets ~41 fps - so its pretty much smooth....

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ironically - I had to revert it back to 30 LED/metre strips - because going to 60/m was too bright for being useful - even at like 5% brightness

peak slate
#

Yeah, wled on all my addressable LEDs except the backlighting in the keypad

mighty rose
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got a link to the keypad so I can have a nosey? 😛

fathom sparrow
#

I have like 400 LEDs burning a hole in my pocket but nothing to use them on

mighty rose
iron granite
forest edge
#

words thrown in the trash immediately after they were invented

static schooner
#

ebullient is a perfectly cromulent word

feral flower
#

Who uses "serendipity"?

azure rock
feral flower
#

🙂

static schooner
#

Serendipitous is a great word, although I probably use 'happy coincidence' more often

azure rock
#

I made the meme to be a double entendre, and in that way it's an intention coincidence which is almost serendipity in synchronicity 😄

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And if we keep throwing big words at each other like so much gobbet then we'll have to move this entire discussion into #1284960456880029707 😂

lean dragon
#

Is there a good guide for figuring out what your passive power consumption "should" be? The heat and ac are off during the shoulder seasons yet my enphase dashboard and con Ed concur that there's a 23-26 kWh daily use. That couldn't just be the refrigerator, deep freeze, and misc items like the wifi and cameras... right?

keen bridge
frigid mirage
#

Community forums cdn down? It's very unresponsive

tender prism
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No maintenance being reported on the forums and the status is green.

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lean dragon
tacit acorn
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is there a place for users to post suggestions for implementations into HA?

keen bridge
deft lantern
glad perch
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I'm hoping a very knowledgable dev could step in and help

crisp oriole
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Asked for a new tuya iot trail for localtuya.

forest edge
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welp the one direction members are dying off.. the prophecy is almost complete

static schooner
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Fell off a hotel balcony?

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I can't believe that he was only 31

forest edge
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why?

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if he was older he probably wouldn't have been doing as many drugs

azure rock
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If he was between 35-55 probably not, if he was 60+ and an old hippie he was high AF 😂

forest edge
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they said he was aggressive and eratic.. that dosen't sound like a weed state to me lol

static schooner
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It made me realize how young he must have been when the band started

forest edge
pulsar bison
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Is logger configuration still via config.yaml or has it changed recently? I want to start excluding things from logger since it's so spammy.

image.png
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Sorry, not logger but rather logbook

real frigate
pulsar bison
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Yours is what I was looking for.

real frigate
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Anytime!

peak slate
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(side note, they did jam out really well)

tiny beacon
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This discord is so much harder to use now. Are there no channels to chat in that are topic-specific?

forest edge
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well this channel seems to be topic specific for complaining about the lack of no topic specific chat channels

iron granite
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There are also channels for food, music, gardening,..

tiny beacon
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Nice. I figured out what I was going to ask about adding a matter device from HomeKit to home assistant. I’m wondering about naming devices. I have a few aqara u300 door locks. If I call the device Bedroom Lock the lock entity on the device is called Bedroom Door Lock Lock. Should I just call it Bedroom Door? 😂

iron granite
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Why not "Bed Man"?

static schooner
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is that a guy with a bed on his cape?

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or a superhero who doesn't bother to get out of bed?

iron granite
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Turning on a big bright light when someone wants to sleep might be semi-efficient indeed. 🤔

mortal walrus
forest edge
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@tidal bronze i see you!

acoustic tapir
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I'm running Home Assistant through docker on an ubuntu machine today. It works well but that machine does a lot of things and it's very old. I just bought a Pi 5 and was thinking that i should maybe migrate over to it instead. Is there an easy way of doing it or will it be a lot of fixing ip adresses and integrations etc etc?

desert cave
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#1284966540617449515 will probably give a more complete answer, but AFAIK you should be able to just restore your backup to the Pi 5 install

acoustic tapir
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since i'm running docker i don't have a simple "Backup" to use

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but i'll check in installation. thx

forest edge
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seems kind of sexist that there is a chick club role but nothing for guys... just saying..

iron granite
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We haven't found enough weirdo roosters to create a club yet.

forest edge
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should have your eyes checked

iron granite
forest edge
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even scrolling down on the member list I can't NOT see weirdos

ocean oar
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🙋‍♂️

unkempt rover
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Aww has everything changed here? no more text channels for support?

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Or am I crazy?

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What to do if you don't know what channel to use? :/

iron granite
unkempt rover
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LOL I have. I don't think any apply too good

iron granite
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Then read further.

unkempt rover
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Got it

iron granite
crisp oriole
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Am i still the only one who uses home assistant to make voice assistant phone calls when riding a bike?

real frigate
crisp oriole
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Yeah not even checking for votes for my shall i write a addon for phone number lookup.

real frigate
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It's a good idea... I just never make phone calls... 😉

crisp oriole
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You can also compose messages

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Or do you have your phone in your hands when riding a bike

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Prolly not riding a bike

azure rock
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bikeassistant? 😄

real frigate
tender prism
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Or our bikes have 4 wheels and we call them Mini's

peak slate
surreal frigate
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If multiple AliExpress seller ship the exact same product, which one do you guys usually choose? The one with more sales?

fathom sparrow
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They don't sell the same exact product 🤣

#

Well, let me preface: This is for chips & boards usually

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if you're buying cheap wifi/zigbee crap, just buy whatever's cheapest if it's the same product

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Just realize it takes a long ass time to get to you if you are in the USA

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3 to 6 weeks usually, sometimes 1 week, but that's rare.

static schooner
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I've been pleasantly surprised that it usually takes around 2 weeks for me. They usually give a 6-8 estimate, but it always arrives early

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I don't know if makes a difference who you order from. I usually just unexpectedly find it on my doorstep one day

mighty rose
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You mean you're not at the door like this 10 minutes after you hit the PAY NOW button?

crisp oriole
muted oak
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I've heard of some motion sensors that are able to detect human presence accurately within a room, such as sitting on the couch versus just walking by, and thought that would be amazing to incorporate into some automation for lights, are products like that real/not insanely expensive

mighty rose
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search AliExpress for 22Ghz presense detection sensors

muted oak
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Are their any specific ones that will/won't work with ha, or are they all pretty universal?

mighty rose
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Sorry - its 24Ghz.

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they all seem to be the same - but I haven't personally used them

#

you can get them out of the box with zigbee or wifi too

real frigate
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WiFi mmWave sensors > Zigbee mmWave sensors. And don’t buy the Tuya ones. They are crap compared to ones that use the LD-2410 chips.

real frigate
coarse horizon
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It also takes about 2 seconds to kick in where as the other two are basically instant.

real frigate
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Yup. And if you start adding a lot more of them (I think I'm at 10? mmWave sensors right now), on Zigbee, your mesh starts to get busy with a lot of traffic.

lone dagger
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I have 6 extenders in my house now to help with that.

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Since I upped those, my mesh rarely fails with the 13 devices I have connected to them.

forest edge
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13 isn't a lot of devices

static schooner
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You call that a smart house???

atomic delta
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I call mine a smart-adjacent house.

static schooner
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A friend of a friend has a smart house

forest edge
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one thing I dislike is the inability to really diagnose zigbee stuff unless you are standing right there

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most end devices can't even be updated till they are triggered if they had been sitting idle for too long

desert cave
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Mine is an above average house

atomic delta
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Honestly, what I really want to automate is my swamp cooler vents and controls, but I've already accepted that will have to wait for me to build something for it.

coarse horizon
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What's the minimum number of devices to be considered a smart house?🤔

atomic delta
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More than I have, definitely.

forest edge
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of all the smart home crap I've bought. the shellies have been the most solid over all of them

#

intergration into HA was a little rocky in the begining but that's been ironed out

desert cave
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yaaay my ratgdo keeps losing connection with the gdo :V

forest edge
desert cave
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tempted!

atomic delta
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I mean, in theory the controls should be easy enough. Three position 120VAC motor (off/low/high), two position pump. Then just repeat for all three swamp coolers.

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So basically a few relays.

coarse horizon
crisp oriole
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Yes i fixed my dns vpn leak

lone dagger
junior forge
lone dagger
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-# Also, it's not only women who have the <@&1284939800465375332> role. lul

real frigate
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lol wait... wait... @junior forge has the same role as me??? 🤣

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Who the hell approved THAT?! lol

lone dagger
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He can add it himself, I can't control that man.

crisp oriole
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am i missing out a special home assistant discord event?

lone dagger
junior forge
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I object as well btw... I want the backward-incompatible changes role.. breaking stuff is so 2023

lone dagger
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I didn't even know you put that on yourself, Franck. lul3d

real frigate
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hahaha fair enough... Don't kick me out, Frenck. 😉 I earned that role fair and square!!!

junior forge
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haha

iron granite
lone dagger
real frigate
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OMG Jetbrains TRASHED DataGrip... It's horrible now. I'm not happy.

crisp oriole
junior forge
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Wait what? They pulled a Google on DataGrip?

iron granite
real frigate
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Yeah, looks like it... They basically brought in VS.Code.

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It's craptastic now.

junior forge
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Hmmm I had a JetBrains license in the past, mostly for PHPStorm & DataGrip

lone dagger
real frigate
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Yeah, I still have my PHPStorm and DG licenses, but I'm really considering cancelling after this crap.

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But Aqua looks kinda interesting.

forest edge
junior forge
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Aqua? Is this Seaworld or what?

forest edge
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I'd like to launch a formal complaint!

real frigate
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Ha! I dunno... it's there new test env that can supposedly handle full selenium integration along with other crap.

iron granite
lone dagger
iron granite
crisp oriole
peak cloud
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#1, #1. if you have #1 please go to desk 8. No one? Oh, they must have pulled it wrong.

junior forge
# forest edge I'd like to launch a formal complaint!

Hi there sir,

I'm Frenck, I'll be handling your complaint today and I'll do my best to make it a smooth and painful process.

Can you sumup the complain for me in a single sentence to get an idea of the issue you want to file an complaint for?

../Frenck

real frigate
iron granite
iron granite
junior forge
forest edge
iron granite
real frigate
forest edge
junior forge
# forest edge sure, there is a serious lack of purple color in this server and therefore offen...

Dear Mr. @forest edge,

We appreciate your recent submission of a formal complaint regarding the grievous lack of purple within this esteemed server. We take all role color-related offenses most seriously, especially those that afflict one’s delicate ocular faculties.

After an exhaustive and highly scientific investigation, involving color wheels, paint swatches, and even a particularly artistic llama, we have come to the conclusion that our server’s purple deficiency is, indeed, alarming. Rest assured, we are assembling a team of highly trained “purpleologists” (aka @lone dagger) to address this egregious oversight immediately.

While we cannot guarantee an instant remedy (as we must first consult the great Purple Council also aka @lone dagger), we ask for your patience as we work diligently to restore chromatic balance to our digital space.

Thank you for your vigilance in protecting the aesthetic harmony of our community.

Yours in purple pursuit,

../Frenck
OCO (Official Complaints Officer)

desert cave
crisp oriole
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ARGGG NO Concecutive characters to be able to be used in the password. WHAT THE HELL IS THAT

peak cloud
desert cave
lone dagger
forest edge
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you been practicing your customer service skillz Frenck?

lone dagger
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I think he used ChatGPT. lul

lone dagger
junior forge
forest edge
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lol

lone dagger
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The artistic llama sent me.

junior forge
forest edge
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so all in all you lost maybe 4 pieces of metal lmao

crisp oriole
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I want to be in a special club.🧐

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I played in a mental unstable music band that was fun only corona broke it down. And i moved away from amsterdam

lone dagger
iron granite
forest edge
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it will only cost you your soul

crisp oriole
junior forge
crisp oriole
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Frenck never installed home assistant

junior forge
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Hehe well, I did, I even modified it to ignore that specific location in Amsterdam at some point

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as weather service providers started asking questions why they got soo many requests for a specific set of coordinates in Amsterdam 🙈

desert cave
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gonna start a rumor that Sonoma is running google home

lone dagger
static schooner
junior forge
static schooner
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the equivalent of arriving at the airport and choosing the next flight out

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With my luck, it would be Kansas City, Missouri

crisp oriole
forest edge
crisp oriole
junior forge
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ooooh...

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are you sure you want an answer to that one?

static schooner
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you have to follow the first rule of the Weird Chick's Club

lone dagger
forest edge
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that there is no weird chick's club

static schooner
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as they say at my company, anybody that actually knows can't say 🙂

atomic delta
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Wait, that's actually not a bad idea, I take it back. I wouldn't want to inspire good changes. How revolting.

junior forge
# forest edge that there is no weird chick's club

Dear Mr. SonomaGTS,

Thank you for your latest inquiry regarding the existence of the “weird chick’s club.” After conducting a swift and highly confidential investigation (complete with undercover operatives, coded messages, and at least one rubber chicken), we can confirm the presence of such an exclusive and mysterious organization.

Kinds regards,

../Frenck
Junior Guardian of the Weird Chick's Club

lone dagger
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Oh no I am laughing so hard I am crying

forest edge
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oh no, you just had to mention the rubber chicken.. now you stirred the pot with rubber animal rights groups

static schooner
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Rubber Ducks are well known to solve many complex software problems

crisp oriole
static schooner
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I've never heard of a rubber chicken solving anything, so no opinion on them

forest edge
atomic delta
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Rubber chickens solve a lack of rubber chickens.

iron granite
atomic delta
crisp oriole
desert cave
atomic delta
tender prism
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I entered a drag contest wearing a dress once at a summer camp (as an adult, sober), so I don't always identify as a Chick, but when I do I give it my best...

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Proud member <@&1284939800465375332>

forest edge
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sexist

atomic delta
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For some reason people don't think to ask me to go in drag. I think it may be discrimination against my wizard beard.

forest edge
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there is no macho beefcake man club role

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so sexist up in here

lone dagger
crisp oriole
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Anyway @lone dagger sign me up.

lone dagger
tender prism
forest edge
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wait, to have a role created we only need to insult it?

verbal olive
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I have the opportunity to do something extremely funny, but I'm not sure if I should IMMEDIATELY leap to choosing HA as the solution

lone dagger
verbal olive
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which is my first instinct for obvious reasons

atomic delta
verbal olive
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Going to a con early next year, a buddy of mine usually brings his DJ equipment for doing room parties or whatnot

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and I was like "you know, we might be able to set up some colored lightbulbs or LED strips or something...."

lone dagger
desert cave
verbal olive
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I'm trying to figure out if getting a second HA setup to bring to the con would be a good way to do some audiovisual synching

junior forge
# forest edge there is no macho beefcake man club role

Dear Mr. @forest edge,

We have received your impassioned plea regarding the tragic absence of a “Macho Beefcake Man Club” role within this community.

We deeply regret any emotional distress this oversight may have caused and assure you that an internal review is already underway, led by a panel of exceptionally muscular consultants (who may or may not have appeared in 80s action movies).

To address the issue of “beefcake representation,” we are in the process of drafting a new role titled “Supreme Macho Beefcake Overlord” complete with exclusive access to protein shakes, dumbbells, and a lifetime supply of tank top emoji.

Please allow us some time to flex (both metaphorically and literally) as we work toward a more equitable, muscular future for all.

Yours in iron-pumping solidarity,

../Frenck
Head of Macho Beefcake Relations

verbal olive
atomic delta
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Sound-reactive lighting is boss.

verbal olive
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Right?

lone dagger
verbal olive
atomic delta
verbal olive
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"ah yes, let me sync these lights to your set, just let me send the signal to the opposite coast of the US and back first"

lone dagger
static schooner
forest edge
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see Frenck gets it..

verbal olive
crisp oriole
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Doesnt tuya has sound sync build in in the app?

verbal olive
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the eternal automation problem: I do not have enough time to set up the thing that will save me time

lone dagger
tender prism
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We just want to see your name in chartreuse

lone dagger
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at least...with my limited knowledge.

verbal olive
atomic delta
verbal olive
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thankfully my second job (streaming) actually gives me a bit of knowledge in this case

junior forge
verbal olive
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but a stream deck wouldn't be what you want here, unless you're looking for an interface that lets you MANUALLY activate effects

lone dagger
verbal olive
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if you want something that's automatic or sound reactive, it's gonna be shit like WLED

lone dagger
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BIG PICTURE EVENT

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DO IT ALL

verbal olive
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...you make a very good point

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maybe I get a yellow or green then?

lone dagger
verbal olive
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Pre-set it up ahead of time

atomic delta