#the-water-cooler

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desert cave
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Yeah, that's the downside of discord mobile

swift raven
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Hi, where are channels I could actually ask questions regarding HA? In support category all seems to be read-only

real frigate
desert cave
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Basically treat it like a forum

swift raven
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Umm... sorry I'm confused, but how I can ASK question?

real frigate
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You click the plus button and create a topic.

swift raven
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Oh, a new post thing?

real frigate
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Yes

swift raven
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Thanks. See, I'm more used to direct conversation on discord and never did it before. Here I mean 🙂

real frigate
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LOL yeah, it’s a new experience, but much easier to support.

swift raven
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Do I get normal notifications as if someone would @swift raven me?

real frigate
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Yup.

swift raven
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All right, let's try then

real frigate
clever solstice
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so you aren't running intelliflo? is the thing that ties it into homeassistant the intelliflo pump, or is it just the easy touch 8 panel?

tidal bronze
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My recommendation: IntelliFlo3®​ VSF Top of the line (variable speed and flow). IntelliFlo VS Good all around (variable speed). I removed all control panels. Running a Pi at the pool equipment, 100x better.

clever solstice
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is there a specific pool OS you flashed on the pi? or something custom built?

tidal bronze
real frigate
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The 2000s called. They want their interface back. lol

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Way to show your age @tidal bronze 😉

tidal bronze
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This is cutting edge for pools. Where have you been?

real frigate
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hahaha I don’t have a pool and when I did, home automation didn’t exist 😉

tidal bronze
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Yes the UI looks janky but why would you look at it once it's integrated to HA 🙂

real frigate
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lol yeah, you’re not wrong… but that interface is making my eye twitch and remember 30 year old me doing UIs like that and actually being happy with myself.

tidal bronze
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Trust me, the functionality of this is 100x better than a $4500 commercial control center.

forest edge
static schooner
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That was cutting edge AI back then 🙂

last cedar
spring dawn
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Why can’t I type in general anymore

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Anyway can someone help me how to add devices to my HomeKit cuz like it says that a tv 8 is found I think that’s my Samsung tv 8 but like where do I find some code

keen bridge
tidal cliff
static schooner
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Please do not cross post

tidal cliff
static schooner
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Do not eat raccoon poop

iron granite
static schooner
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It's not just gross, it's also science

forest edge
light dock
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what's everyones naming schemes for labels and categories? I'm thinking categories - theme and labels - function

tender prism
smoky birch
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Do you remember

solar zealot
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We remember

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But you are late

smoky birch
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You're early

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solar zealot
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More than half of the timezones disagree

marsh hare
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is it possible to update a attribute of a helper entity from a script?
like the upper or lower value of a binary_sensor

static schooner
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No

keen bridge
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(And a binary sensor doesn't have a upper or a lower value, it's either "on" or "off")

forest edge
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so whos dressing up as michael jackson this year for halloween?

marsh hare
finite charm
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how do i post a new topic now

static schooner
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go to the channel that fits and post

tidal bronze
forest edge
static schooner
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Da plane! Da plane!

forest edge
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really don't get how they can call those metal boxes that hold just credit cards wallets

safe pond
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Anybody about that could help?

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Just trying to set up ulm_card_navigation path. Is that looking for another yaml file that I’ll have to create?

hollow whale
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Huh. Apparently the Docker DNS resolver intermediary doesn't like non-FQDN for local hostnames. That's interesting. Slightly annoying.

tribal bone
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Hello everyone! I'm reinstalling Home Assistant and looking to assign a proper name to all my entities and devices. I was trying to name a temperature and humidity sensor (using zigbee2mqtt), but I don't like how it came out. I named the device Closet temperature humidity sensor, but the entities were renamed to Closet temperature humidity sensor Humidity and Closet temperature humidity sensor Temperature. How would you suggest me to rename it? Thanks!

desert cave
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Sleep? What's that?

iron granite
cyan violet
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Lads. Had to reset Homeassistant. Any ideas for 5 ESPs, 3 of them have bluetooth

iron granite
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What does one have to do with the other?

cyan violet
tender prism
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Have any zigbee plugs?

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Zwave switches

cyan violet
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does it need to be zigbee?

tender prism
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It's that your question is random, if there is a question.

cyan violet
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What? English is not englishing

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I do not have Zigbee Plugs no. But i do have other Smart Plugs

tender prism
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You should make a gate control with one of your ESP's for your garden gate.

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Use another one for the door that upen your chicken coop in the morning.

cyan violet
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Only if i had a garden prayge Does anyone know any Channel on youtube that mainly focuses on Esps in Hassio?

tender prism
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Another could monitor your well pump

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Use the rest to build multisensors to measure all the environmental things.

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That's what I would do with 5esp's

cyan violet
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the last one is a good idea. will probably do 🤔

median canopy
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Does anybody faced issues with the last update (core 2024.9.1 --> 2024.9.2) ? All my switches did show strange behavior - the state did toggle for 1 -2 sec then goes back to the old state. The real device did change correctly, only the state in the dashboard was wrong. State changes via the real hardware were not reported in the the GUI . Restoring the 20.24.9.1 backup fixed it. Before reporting an issue I want ask here.

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Next I will try to redo the update and see if the behavior is the same.

real frigate
median canopy
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Thanks for the hint

iron granite
frank hollow
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Sorry

iron granite
regal parrot
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Hello everyone, I am not sure is this the right channel.. I need help with installing HomeAssistant instance + Dashboard UI on the same android tablet (Cubot tablet 60 4/128) I consulted with ChatGPT and he told me that easiest method would be using termux.
After making sure I installed all dependencies for HA and running pip install Homeassistant I always run on to a similar error related to cryptography and zlib-ng
Sadly I can't afford to get Pi device or pay for cloud services... Can anyone help me out or redirect me?
All help is appreciated..

iron granite
pure tusk
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does anyone else have the problem that we cant click back out of devices/automations? the back button isnt working?

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i have to go settings again and then click automations or devices again. the back button is broke. deleting cache didnt work. or where do i post to discuss this issue?

real frigate
pure tusk
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ah great so its not just me. quite frustrating haah

torpid glacier
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so how do I ask an add-on related question now?

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Everything is read only?

iron granite
torpid glacier
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I can't see that in the side bar (but thanks for the link)

iron granite
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Then look at your settings in "Channels & Roles"

torpid glacier
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okay thanks. Am I missing something, though? there's no mention of this discord change in announcements

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and what separates discord from the HA forum now that this change is implemented?

iron granite
cyan violet
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uh oh.

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That was perchance NOT the right .bin

iron granite
shrewd zephyr
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Hello, damn I m not sure how to understand how to ask quick guidance without opening a new channel everytime with the new discord :/

iron granite
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If it is about support, a post in the appropriate channel is the way to go

shrewd zephyr
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Yes but my issue is probably a easy one so opening a channel seems odd

iron granite
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Still... The support channels are the place for that.

shrewd zephyr
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I guess ^^'

glad fossil
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Whats a general support? I am not sure where my problem lies

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I am stuck at about a minute long "loading data" screen before anything loads, then it all works at normal speed

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hitting refresh makes it take like a minute to load up again

static schooner
livid fulcrum
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When is the new beta open? Excited to see what's coming out and test 🙏

static schooner
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Betas are always released on the last Wednesday of the month. Release on the first Wednesday of the month

forest edge
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this channel is making me laugh starting around 11am

junior burrow
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How do I enter somebody's house unnoticed.

wet pilot
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very carefully

static schooner
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In a raccoon suit

proper blaze
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where is the channel where users showcase their UI dashboards? I’m looking for inspiration

primal radish
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Has anyone made a thermostat controller manually with a relay before?

tidal bronze
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Perfect Sunday 🍷

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forest edge
tidal bronze
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Wife asked google. Me no can help.

forest edge
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proper blaze
forest edge
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there never was

young sigil
static schooner
simple sapphire
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Has anyone ever been able to get the atom echo working with HA and wakewords? I tried over the past year. Somehow got it going once, but it crashed/hung frequently. After latest esphome update, I have to press the button, as it appears they disabled wakewords. Grayed out in HA.

forest edge
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you guys may wanna recruit some more crows lol

simple sapphire
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I would switch to a different device, since the esp32 is broken, if I knew what stand-alone alternatives there are

forest edge
simple sapphire
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Ok

static schooner
simple sapphire
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They got rid of the voice assistant channel, right?

forest edge
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ah wasn't sure what that was lol

static schooner
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No, the one I posted is active

simple sapphire
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It says the channel is permanently closed. Is there more than one?

static schooner
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Click on my link

simple sapphire
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Post is grayed out on that channel

static schooner
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There are many posts there

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Post works fine for me. Hit the +

simple sapphire
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Got it!

drifting adder
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i have to say, i'm pretty disappointed by the change in the discord server. i'm sure there are reasons, but i wouldn't know where to look for them in this new discord setup. i see where to go find stuff now, but i feel it is a setback. i loved the open forum of the old channels where we could just share information about the topic. i learned so much by just jumping into the channel of choice and reading what i've missed, or even scrolling back a few days. now it is just posts. as if i'm on a BBS from the early 90's

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for instance, i wanted to just go put some random information into the zwave channel about a seemingly popular device (aeotec window/door sensor 7) that i just discovered (the battery information is different between the website support page and the user manual), but i don't think it will be useful to create a post for it. i don't need support. just wanting to share some useful information

static schooner
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I think the aversion to writing a post because 'it's not worth it' or 'it's not useful' is just a mindset that needs to be overcome

forest edge
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eh..

static schooner
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The alternative is a single post that just immediately scrolls off the screen, forgotten

forest edge
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as he said, some scroll back

drifting adder
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but... easily searched for and then you can read the context around

static schooner
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That all fits in a post 🤷

mortal walrus
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for topic-specific channels with moderately low traffic, i did pretty regularly scroll back to read what i'd missed

forest edge
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this server needs both but I agree with actual support being placed into the forum type channels

mortal walrus
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like, half of what i know about matter and can now support people with came from just reading in the matter channel as conversation happened

forest edge
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asking for assistant in a forum type channel makes 100% sense, but just talking and throwing out random facts or whatever.. that can reside in a normal chat channel

drifting adder
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at the same time, i can see how it might be overwhelming for those mods

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everyone rolling in and taggin them (like me)

forest edge
mortal walrus
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dang, vertical video makes for tall link previews, that fills my whole screen height :(

drifting adder
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lol. a post would have saved you from that 😛

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but i would have missed it, as it was something i wouldn't have clicked on to jump into the thread to view. shrugs

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anyway. just venting. i suppose i'll get used to it like my jump from IRC. i had better shut up before i see someone say "get off my lawn" like i did the other night

mortal walrus
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I'm still hoping that at some point we'll get some "on topic" chat channels again, but ... :/

forest edge
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this is all a ploy to drive people away from discord so they can just focus on the forums /s

drifting adder
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i think i like the idea @forest edge mnetioned. it would be good to have a support channel and general chat channel for each. HA has some many different topics, though. it might have been better to have both for at least a trial period and direct people to asking for specific support in the forum-like posts rather than just locking the general chats

drifting adder
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waits for the "okay boomer"

tidal bronze
mortal walrus
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i certainly see fewer people, in part because i end up skipping a bunch of forum topics because they don't seem sufficiently interesting to be worth the effort of dealing with the discord forum topic ui - even tho they might be something that i would have read in a chat channel :/

forest edge
mortal walrus
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kinda wish discord would show the end of the chat rather than the start so you could get some idea of the current discussion before opening a forum topic.

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there seems to be a lot of overlap between #1284966353798697001 and #1284966617670881350 fwiw; hardware is listed first, so it ends up grabbing some of the topics related to support of e.g. zigbee, zwave, matter devices.

drifting adder
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i say that because i hadn't been in here in a bit. maybe a couple of months. and then smacked with it. shrugs

forest edge
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POD's, TOD's make sure you peeps in the US have those things added to anything of yours of value. shit is such a nightmare to add down the road and in some cases a nightmare to deal with in general

drifting adder
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true that. don't want to have to let the courts decide

mortal walrus
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but yeah, i'm not a fan of using a chat service as a searchable knowledge base in general - that's not what chat is for. And there's better options for forums than locking stuff into a non-web-indexed, no anonymous access, proprietary service like discord. The whole reason i joined the HA discord - a chat service - was to chat with other people who use HA about HA and related technologies :/ Not to talk about random unrelated stuff, and not to act as a support service agent.

forest edge
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you can chat about HA, just not ask for help about HA in these channels lol

mortal walrus
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most of the "community" channels explicitly say in the description (hmm, not sure what gave me that impression, doesn't seem to actually be the case currently?) that they're off-topic channels, and are used as such (so i have them muted).

forest edge
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they just don't want these channels to be used for any kind of support when it comes to HA

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the old OT was the same way

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the old support chat channels weren't really meant to be used for general conversation that kept jumping from support to casual chat either

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the issue here isn't what they want. it's the discord sucks for what they are trying to achieve

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if threads weren't basically useless those would get used more too

mortal walrus
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i'm honestly ok with getting repeated questions in support chat channels occasionally - they're usually quick to answer, and if they start happening too often it's a good indication of a shortcoming of the software or public support/documentation resources.

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also provides a way for people newer to a project to start helping others, by answering questions that they've seen before :)

forest edge
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I agree the other way had it's perks but it did kind of have it's downsides too

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can't even suggest an unofficial server because the valuable information in that wouldn't ever be seen by those looking for answers lol

mortal walrus
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honestly, the old channel layout helped me get interested in matter/thread by seeing the active conversation in those channels. so i picked up some devices, dove deep into learning protocol details while chatting with an integration dev, and eventually helped speed up the resolution of a device firmware issue that was affecting HA users by providing the vendor with reproduction steps using a standalone test tool.

proper blaze
proper blaze
quick hedge
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I may have to stop using the voice assistant. This is absolutely mental. It picks up something that sounds nothing like the wakeword, picks up a random sentence from a video and then decides it's going to perform a seemingly arbitrary list of actions. What is even happening here?

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quick hedge
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The wakeword works, but is VERY picky so maybe it just doesn't like your voice, accent, etc. It worked if I held it up to my mouth most of the time, rarely when anywhere else. The speaker in it is bad enough that it's hard to understand the response a lot of the time.

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I've had the best luck with Wyoming and R-Pis but as you can see above, it's... often just crazy.

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(conference speakers are much better than the hats you can buy)

crisp oriole
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Micro wakeup words work to good. Now my echo in the bed room sometimes picks up oke nabu from the study.

real frigate
marsh hare
static schooner
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or that someone's lights are off, or only their parking lights are on

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the latter is the most annoying. because they get some headlight light, enough that they often don't notice

proper blaze
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Aside from the sarcasm, it would prevent accidents if vehicles were able to communicate asynchronously to each other to indicate issues — such as obstruction on road ahead, accident ahead, blinkers not working, high beams on.

real frigate
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High beams on are the WORST. Especially where I live.

tidal bronze
sterile ferry
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my car uses it's front facing sensors to detect oncoming traffic and automatically turns them off if on.. not that I use them much anyway.

static schooner
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I think that might actually be a requirement for cars now

fathom sparrow
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what if you have a shitty old truck from 2008

clever mortar
sterile ferry
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yes - when I first notice it happen

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I didn't believe it at first and was like how the hell

fathom sparrow
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My favorite feature on new cars is the top-down parking line thingy

tidal bronze
static schooner
tidal bronze
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That's what I have 🙂

static schooner
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just became legal in the US, I think. Way behind Europe

tidal bronze
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over 40mph, Highs are always on.

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Yes, it did earlier this year

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Beam dimming for street signs is the coolest

clever mortar
fathom sparrow
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man, i've never wanted a new vehicle until now

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Somehow my truck is still worth $10k

clever mortar
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The wife was laughing at the joy I got from the lights 😄

tidal bronze
dusky plank
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And yes matrix is cool and all but I still don‘t like how it randomly blinds other cars which get detected too late so I only ever use it when neccesary

real frigate
tidal bronze
dusky plank
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it happens in areas with hills, also on broad highways at least with my audi

tidal bronze
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Tilt is taken into account in mine.

dusky plank
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you can say that but I doubt there's a way to 100% identify a oncoming car. chances are bigger it doesn't

tidal bronze
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Haven't seen any glitches so far. Depends on the level of ILS implementation. Pretty sure earlier gens had issues but they have come far

dusky plank
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Mine is 2023

tidal bronze
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I don't have an Audi anymore but one I had didn't have vehicle tilt. So don't know much about the latest iteration on Audi.

dusky plank
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Also with tilt, its oncoming light in the distance and the sensors on these things can‘t go past ~150m I‘d say. And then its not even sure if this motorcycle is worth to turn off the pixel I feel

fathom sparrow
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I'm probably an asshole driver, but I'd mark those problems as "not my problem"

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and still use it

dusky plank
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You might be in the majority anyway with this

tidal bronze
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Count me in as well.

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Single LED beam is not going to harm anyone.

fathom sparrow
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I mean, I simply forget to turn off my highbeams on a regular basis, I only drive in the dark around 4ish/5ish AM and the roads are empty

dusky plank
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I just fear old drivers with this tech at hand, and you both are old. I‘m scared now

fathom sparrow
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how old are you?

tidal bronze
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I am so old, even re-coded ambient light turn on trigger. Yes we deadly

fathom sparrow
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I'm only 41

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I can still see at night

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I got super trashed the other night, my wife had to drive home in the dark, she was not happy

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normally my job

dusky plank
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On the other hand I also know that not everybody is focused while driving, people are not even on the wheel with their hands now so these things are minor

tidal bronze
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Aren't you supposed to text all the time?

dusky plank
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No, youtube

fathom sparrow
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that's what the center console is for

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tv right?

dusky plank
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Hah, my codriver has its own console

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Tbh i fear every level of automomy except the full autonomy. Old people will get into trouble with one or the other feature

fathom sparrow
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I'm on the fence

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I see how my parents drive, and all this stuff really helps them

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I don't think I'll ever own this kind of tech because I'm a cheap ass and buy old cars

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I don't think I've owned a car newer than -10 years old

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I do get fomo

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But I'd rather put that 100k into drugs and alcohol home automation

tidal bronze
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I think I have maxed out on automation. 😁

stiff ingot
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i wanted if home assistant's gadgets will be on "Android"...

desert cave
# sterile ferry my car uses it's front facing sensors to detect oncoming traffic and automatical...

my car has the whole "auto high beams" Thing(tm) but it's using the front camera to decide, so when I first got it, it thought that road signs it was illuminating were oncomming cars. Lots of false positives, which was pretty funny. Unfortunately they changed it, so if you have the auto system on at all, the car just goes with high beams all the time unless it thinks they should be off. I ended up disabling the whole system and going back to manual

forest edge
fathom sparrow
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Noice, I have a better truck than someone else

solar zealot
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Is it a truck truck?

fathom sparrow
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as opposed to a car truck?

solar zealot
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There also is a truck truck truck

forest edge
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car tech is getting a little nuts

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as they add more buttons on the inside the amount of space under the hood shrinks

tidal bronze
desert cave
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auto high beams

tidal bronze
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Ah. Never used that. Multibeam is what I know.

forest edge
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the seat belt crap the auto off at stop lights crap and the beeping when you get too close to the line

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all that can go die in a fire

tidal bronze
# forest edge all that can go die in a fire

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real frigate
tidal bronze
forest edge
real frigate
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In some cars… BMW makes it VERY difficult in most cases

tidal bronze
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Start stop is EPA/DOT regulated. So you will have to hack it.

real frigate
tidal bronze
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It used to be like that. Good times

real frigate
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Yeah, they removed it in the 2025 models. Sooooo, older Minis for me forever.

forest edge
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when they first came out with that auto off crap at lights to conserve gas and reduce emissions I thought it was going to be the starter that was going to have to be replaced often throughout the vehicles life.. turns out the first thing to go is the spark plugs.. so with one BS "feature" they fuck people out of two things that force you to have to pay to replace quicker than you ever should

tidal bronze
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Now now, don't hate on capitalism

forest edge
tidal bronze
forest edge
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it's no wonder used cars are such a high commodity now

real frigate
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Not easily. Bimmercode is still trying to figure out ways to even get into the BDC last I heard.

tidal bronze
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Just a matter of time.

real frigate
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Used to be easy to hook into the OBD-II port and code everything out, but BMW was basically like “nah… screw you guys”

tidal bronze
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Pretty sure it's CAN

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Never messed with BMW

real frigate
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Yeah, it’s still CANBUS. But the crap they added is simply stupid. The BDC is now a completely protected component.

tidal bronze
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Oh my

forest edge
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wtf are you trying to hack on the mini? this the seat belt shit?

real frigate
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I think (I’m not sure because I’m simply not interested in the 2025+ models) they also applied that to a few other domains as well.

dusky plank
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yup, whole vw fleet

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including audi

real frigate
valid hull
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So I can't quite figure out which channel applies to problems with a ~1y old installation that has stopped responding. It's not installation (or at least I hope it doesn't become that!), but not any of the others either. Any thoughts on where best to ask that sort of question?

real frigate
tidal bronze
forest edge
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just think, all the effort they put into preventing customers from being able to do anything with their own vehicles is pushed on to the price tag of the same customer.

real frigate
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Yup. It’s annoying. And you can’t opt out of Mini/BMW connected either. You don’t have to have an account, but it’s still connected.

forest edge
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just makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside

tidal bronze
forest edge
real frigate
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I don’t mind it per se… but for things like Sonoma is bringing up, ya know…

tidal bronze
forest edge
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wait what.. she looks at the HA app for car details like gas but not the guages directly infront of her in the car?

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i say guages.. i meant complex digital screens lol

tidal bronze
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Will not look at the dash. I am not going try and change it. Lol.

forest edge
tidal bronze
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Yep exactly that.

forest edge
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the ford edge wet got stuck with has those digital screens.. the engine temp one is so bad.. like you can see the delay between a sensor saying, it's getting hotter and the little guage moving on the dash

tidal bronze
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I have no idea about FORD or GM. Never had one and don't plan to.

forest edge
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I like the center screen that replaces the radio for like android auto etc.. but in the dash cluster behind the steering wheel.. no I don't like them there lol

tidal bronze
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That's why there's a HUD

forest edge
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no. those are dumb too

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if I wanted shit projected onto my windshield it better have a porn option

tidal bronze
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Ahh you are dealing with middle earth frustrations nothing to do with driving. I understand

forest edge
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i think you are confusing distractions with driving

tidal bronze
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I think you need to build a shed, fire up a 21" monitor, add some beam sensors around it and all set. Use your HUD to drive.

forest edge
tidal bronze
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What's that?

forest edge
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does that even display on your HUD?

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or does the HUD just say, "Go"

tidal bronze
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Navigation is all I want to see.

last cedar
forest edge
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how the hell do you see anything through it? lol

tidal bronze
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Not maps. Next turn, side of the street. Maps on there would suck

forest edge
last cedar
forest edge
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I say burn them all just to be safe

tidal bronze
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I need to buy some potatoes

forest edge
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you really do

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may actually help fix your taste bud problem

static schooner
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I don't see a potato region

tidal bronze
tender prism
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Potato region is in the Ears, or at least that's what my Mom always said.

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Always asked if I was growing potatoes in there

tidal bronze
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I get so confused. I am uncertain whether WhatAreWeFixing is typing or Today is Typing. Need more vino.

tender prism
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(It's also my website, thats why, with the '.')

kind elm
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One question... To integrate home assistant with chatgpt will I need a plus account on chatgpt?

tender prism
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I use the LLM on my gaming machine, so I personally don't know.

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Ollama

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Anyone else know?

tidal bronze
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No idea. But one day when it can go through all the scripts, automations and logbook and suggest how things can do better I will be interested

forest edge
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at that point you won't need it to "suggest" just have it do it on it's own

tender prism
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It's only good now to feed it a fact and have it smart-ass back to you in a tts.

tidal bronze
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Not interested in interacting in anyway with HA 🤣

tender prism
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Then this is definately the server to be on...

forest edge
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he's here for the potatos

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if he can't eat good stuff.. he may as well see others do it

tidal bronze
forest edge
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isn't there already a way to dynamically adjust durations etc based off enviroment input?

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pretty sure I've ran across a few posts about that already

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seems you are behind old man

tidal bronze
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Not that I know of. I have set time outs depending on time of day and occupancy but it's more complicated than that. You will have to take in zones to account and zones per area.

forest edge
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pretty sure the tools are there, you just need to figure out how to use them

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but don't fret.. i too look at some of the stuff baffled lol

tidal bronze
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If you see it again pass the link.

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My place is close to humanly perfect as it can get. But I am all ears and eyes.

peak slate
tidal bronze
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What I am really looking for: time to off 10 minutes. Analyze last motion off for last 90 days come up with a median +/- adjust time out accordingly.

peak slate
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A template that runs daily and calculates the average for x days..... I feel like what should be possible, though I'd need to do a ton of googling to make it work

tidal bronze
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I do use statistics sensors for vacuum routines per vacuum. In the sense don't clean areas that were not occupied for x hours. I am referring to AI. If I am plugging in AI, I don't want ro chat with the damn thing but do something productive without me 😁

peak slate
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And primarily to not light everything on fire too while hallucinating something nonsense as ai loves to do

forest edge
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that frigate audio alert works pretty well with fire alarms

tidal bronze
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Yes it does.

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Bark to trigger is under 2 seconds

tidal bronze
static schooner
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critical for Home Assistant livestreams

forest edge
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cats make way too many diffrent noises

static schooner
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and they're usually not that loud

tidal bronze
forest edge
static schooner
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he knows that we already have one for that...

tidal bronze
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Well there's water there's a cooler

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World of fun when you uber to get a drive through burrito

forest edge
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the Qrevo is seems to be getting closer to being a useful robovac

static schooner
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it's awesome. I just picked up a Qrevo Master and it's great

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Absolutely amazing compared to my Roomba i7 that I've had for a few years. Night and day

tidal bronze
static schooner
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should have bought 2, since the price has gone up by $200

tidal bronze
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What's the price now?

static schooner
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$1199

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I got mine earlier this month when it was briefly $999

tidal bronze
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Roborock is the way to go

static schooner
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cleary. I had no idea how much better it is

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I very much enjoy that it doesn't just go around bashing into shit

forest edge
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I retract my last statement. apparently only the slim can fit under furniture and does not have most of the neat things the reg has like being able to lift for carpet rugs

tidal bronze
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I had roomba ages ago now the entire fleet is roborock. Night and day.

static schooner
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I love that you can watch live from its camera and that it takes pictures of obstructions and obstacles

forest edge
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poop glamour shots prior to being spread all over

static schooner
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It's VacuumTV

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I didn't think I needed a mopping feature with rugs everywhere on my hardwood until I realized how smart it is about using it

tidal bronze
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My oldest one runs flole, wish everything ran that

forest edge
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do not google flole lol

tidal bronze
static schooner
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I hope I don't have to wait for Black Friday to see if there's a better deal on a second one. Amazon doesn't actually stock them - they're sold and ship from Roborock

real frigate
static schooner
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there are so many competitors now

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I was thinking back to the original Roomba that I got a long time ago that just ping-ponged through the room at warp speed with no intelligence at all 🙂

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looks like it has most of the same features as the Roborock for basically the same price

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I think it's funny that my cats just do not care about the vacuum at all. They just casually move out of the way if it's heading directly toward them, but they show no fear or concern at all

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I watched one go right by my cat yesterday and she didn't move an inch or even pay any attention to it

real frigate
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This is gonna replace my Roborock S5 that’s on it’s last legs after multiple battery replacements and such.

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The only bad thing is that it doesn’t have a HA integration, but I can just schedule it and not worry about it at all.

static schooner
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I installed the Roborock integration, but I haven't decided what I want to do with it yet. I've scheduled cleaning, and I guess it would be nice if it alerted me if it gets in trouble, but their app already does that

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and there's nothing that HA can do about it

real frigate
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Exactly. I have mine flashed with Valetudo and integrated through MQTT. It’s great and all because I can schedule cleanings when I’m out of the house or in bed… but honestly, I really can’t say that I ever do anything with the vacuum in HA itself. It cleans, returns to it’s dock and then sits there for the rest of the day. lol

static schooner
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it exposes a ton of controls and sensors

forest edge
real frigate
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Mine doesn’t… well, it does, but the ones I care about (bin full, etc), don’t work on mine as it doesn’t have a sensor for it.

real frigate
forest edge
static schooner
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no review yet, though

forest edge
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narwall dock looks slightly diffrent but jesus the qrevo curv and dock looks just like the narwall thing lol

static schooner
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competition is great

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Roomba ruled without meaningful competition for too long and now others have eaten their lunch

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may the best robot vacuum win, and I, for one, welcome our new robot vacuum overlords

iron granite
real frigate
static schooner
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I was expecting some extending lidar tusk 🙂

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I wanna see the VacuumWars review

forest edge
real frigate
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lol exactly. I can only go by what the sponsored content creators tell me. It’s 2024. That’s the rule.

static schooner
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I fall prey to Big Robot

real frigate
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But, tbh I’m just really liking the AI features that Narwhal has advertised. Plus, the 7 day dust bag thing is pretty cool.

static schooner
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Part of the AI of the RoboRock is identifying obstables (cables, pet toy, lamp, etc.). I don't know how much it matters, but it's cool

forest edge
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I just have a housekeeper come once a week and then bill @tidal bronze

static schooner
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my Roomba i7 would just try to eat all those things

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then complain My robot tummy hurts...

tidal bronze
forest edge
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is this what I should have built out at my farm? https://youtu.be/4puCK-UZ-nI?si=BBZre4ZUidL83u8O

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|| not a chance in hell ||

tidal bronze
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I agree, not a chance living in KC no matter what house.

static schooner
forest edge
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cali's need not apply lol

real frigate
tidal bronze
static schooner
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I would hate to see what it would do with a pile of horse crap

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overall, looks pretty slick

tidal bronze
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Nuff said

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forest edge
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they sit on 20 acre lots.. that's not bad

tidal bronze
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More area to gather all that humidity

static schooner
peak slate
tidal bronze
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Wall says it all 🤣

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forest edge
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whats your beef with pizza hut?

tidal bronze
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See now you don't have watch porm on HUD. Your own room. Now you are thinking more like am Angeleno

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Oh damn 4:25PM. Past my nap time.

forest edge
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thought your body was a temple? why it's running out of steam part way through the day?

tidal bronze
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Missed my 3:30 power nap

forest edge
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eat more potatos, you'll feel better

ocean oar
forest edge
static schooner
tidal bronze
peak slate
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lol was just about to go make a post about how my home assistant installation was broken, had screenshots and some logs earlier in the day but hadn't had time to post it all, go to replicate the issue and it works

static schooner
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You clearly made it nervous

peak slate
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it knew i was 5 serious and wasn't about to deal with that

static schooner
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My CA mobile drivers license was finally accepted for Apple Wallet, so I'm in the cool kids club now

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I kinda want to use it now, but I haven't had to present my ID to anyone in a long time

forest edge
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wow what a shit hole for that price! https://youtu.be/pkGorhYG5EQ?si=I7F0upDMcoiIySdn the meme's were true!

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Not a fan of being so close to the pool, but not a bad place

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Further south, that would cost 1.5 to 2x

forest edge
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no wonder so many WTH californians are moving out of state

desert cave
livid widget
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So my HA stuff has been ordered and should be here in a few days. Excited!

desert cave
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prepare to lose all your free time! :D

livid widget
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(I don't have free time).

rapid tendon
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grumbles as a fresh hass install doesnt let firefox restore a backup tar but it works fine from chrome

desert cave
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That sounds like a bug that should be reported if not already there

rapid tendon
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opened may 14 2022

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's how i found out to try chrome lol

desert cave
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Aaah fun

livid widget
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Got a link?

rapid tendon
clever mortar
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Firefox is known to not play well with HA

desert cave
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Joining dev to fix this one issue lmao

rapid tendon
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Really? this is like, the first issue i've had to try another browser for

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and ive been happily using hass for like, 4 years now

clever mortar
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If you search the server history it comes up often

rapid tendon
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discord's search is hella unreliable, i only use it as a last resort, cuz it oft likes to tell me no results, for even common words like "the"

clever mortar
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Short words often trip it up

livid widget
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That same issue #7258 seems to suggest a possible fix as well, but would be in that frontend.

rapid tendon
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allow me to rephrase -- Discord's search will oft tell me no results for any word. Long or short. Even searching for my own posts, with the from:@rapid tendon search modifier, will result in nada in servers i'm active in.

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this particular issue persists on multiple devices, some using canary, some using stable discord

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Discord sure is a website that pretends to be an application on my computer 🙂

livid widget
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Chrome is the new IE6.

arctic quarry
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unless Safari is

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and sometimes Firefox

livid widget
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Not usually firefox anymore, I mean, Chrome is increasingly the defacto browser you support.

arctic quarry
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back in 2016 it was definitely Safari

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snowflake browser

livid widget
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But yeah, iOS only allowing Safari means if you want to support iOS, then that's Safari, indeed.

arctic quarry
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yep

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iirc you had to constantly hack flexbox to make Safari do as it was told

livid widget
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I think that's mostly fixed now.

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I think once I get my HA setup, I'm going to try to integrate all the things.

Especially the temperatures of the fish tank and various statistics on the computers.

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(Such as filesystem usage)

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(And date of last backup...)

rapid tendon
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I want to try modding an electric typewriter into a TTY and figure out how to get that talking to hass so i can interact that way. Seems incredibly silly to do 🙂

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punch in a command, watch it type out the weather or somethin'

livid widget
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I seem to recall people used to be able to use minicom or something, I can't remember, it was so long ago.

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(In order to pretend to be a TTY)

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With modems.

raven stratus
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hey there, random question... is there a way to disable MFA when i'm "at home" (ip-based")? seems i can only use trusted_networks which removes password requirements

livid widget
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I usually use browser plugins for that (eg, 1password that fills things in automatically)

clever mortar
candid viper
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Okay,. so this might not be a HA issue but why is everything so coy about giving debug information that might actually be useful?

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I set something up and it errors (returning a 404) but the debug information doesn't even include the URI it requested.. so I have no idea what it didn't find.

solar zealot
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What are you even looking at

livid widget
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I think Xyem was just ranting.

candid viper
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I turned on the debug information and got no more useful information than what the assist responds with in the first place.

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While I would expect, at the very least, the URI it is hitting, if not a detailed representation of what was sent.

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But yes, just ranting 🙂

vestal sleet
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Hmm, I was looking at some profiling data in a flame graph. Feels like that could be pretty neat for energy usage. Kinda nest the different sensors logically.

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And then get an idea of what certain things uses, what isn't being tracked, etc.

candid viper
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Though personally, I would have just made the main OpenAI one accept endpoint URLs so it could be used with any OpenAI compatible API but.. apparently that's just me 😄

vestal sleet
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Something like this, day to day, see what's being used where.

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Time to see if that already exists.

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And if not, how hard it'll be to make. 😅

livid widget
candid viper
vestal sleet
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Oh yeah, that's a good one too

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Especially with limited levels.

livid widget
candid viper
vestal sleet
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Nice

candid viper
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Quite useful when you do things like trying to fit a 2060 and a 3090 into a 2013 machine 😄

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Needed to get a new PSU for that.

candid viper
candid viper
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Oddly, it's also only part of the payload it dumps. Though I have read that this might have been abandoned anyway.

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That might be because it is passing it off and there is no hook in there for that.

livid widget
candid viper
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Looking at the source code for it.

livid widget
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Python's logging is good and flexible, it just so happens that this is combined with... nonexistant documentation of how individual projects use it. 😦

candid viper
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Hehe.

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That reminds me actually.. I need to send in a patch to text-generation-webui because it breaks if its API gets hit while it is completing a streaming request.. pretty sure that isn't intentional.

high cove
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Hello, im new here could someone help me where i can learn about Home Assistant? I want to get in hand with the software and the matter of Home Assistant

fathom sparrow
livid widget
fathom sparrow
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are you talking about HA?

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or external libs

livid widget
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External libs basically.

fathom sparrow
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Maybe that's normal in the libs you're using but all the libs I typically deal with, they don't use other libs

livid widget
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More specifically the custom components that Xyem was ranting about. 🙂

fathom sparrow
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I don't web dev though

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I'm usually writing the low level stuff too

livid widget
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Things tend to be neater in low level stuff.

hollow glacier
fathom sparrow
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I don't think I've ever clicked that link

hollow glacier
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i usually do to see if there's a reason i dont want to yolo (or do)

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am i allowed to post a video i made in #1284960456880029707 or is that reserved for "cool thing i made that isnt monetized"? it isnt clear after reading the rules and i dont see a tag for self promotion or similar

tender prism
fathom sparrow
candid viper
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I got some debug information out of the backend openai module being used (for the record, by installing something from HACS that allows me to set the environment variable OPENAI_LOG to debug) and the debug information from that.. makes it look like it is not actually using the URI I set, as the port is missing.

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Which would explain why it is getting a 404 🙂

livid widget
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@candid viper What you can also do, is run a reverse proxy (ie, put the local openai stuff behind something like nginx), log it... And then tell your HA to hit it.

hollow glacier
candid viper
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I can see in the documentation for that module of examples with other ports being used, so I have a feeling this debug output isn't being fully honest about what it is doing.

sullen quest
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I haven't really been on this discord server for a bit, but I'm finding it difficult to get some help with Frigate. Previously, I would head over to the #cameras-archived channel and it was great and super-helpful. I've posted in the #1284966617670881350 channel yesterday and no responses at all.

Is it just less active now, or am I posting in the wrong place / incorrectly?

candid viper
clever mortar
rapid osprey
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Does someone have a guide/link they know of that talks about how to get custom cards into lovelace UI when the instructions are for the non-UI version? Struggling to get something in, and yes, I've already posted

fathom sparrow
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That's not really your question

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Your question is about custom button card templates

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and how to use them in the UI

clever mortar
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Please also don't crosspost

real frigate
fathom sparrow
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why lie?

iron granite
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Tztztz

fathom sparrow
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jk, took care of it

real frigate
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Damn. I forgot to ask him HOW. Ugh. lol

cursive canyon
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Hi water cooler friends

candid viper
cursive canyon
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I like the new stacking features

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iron granite
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What happened to Scruffy? shksShock

static schooner
cursive canyon
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Scruffy the Janitor is not plugged into his vacuum base lol, I was cleaning it the other day

upbeat dock
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I don’t really like the new forums. I enjoyed scrolling the conversations, and it’s a bad experience now.

iron granite
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That's unfortunate. Some people looking for help have been appreciating it, as their questions don't get lost so easily as before in the chat.

livid widget
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That change happened before I came. But the forums in the discord work well - very different vibe to the open chat though.

candid viper
livid widget
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It is always dns

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(I’m a bit interested but it’s also 3am, so not really 😩)

candid viper
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Haha. More specifically, it seems to be ipv6 related. I installed the Terminal add-on and it can't resolve the hostname, unless I force ipv4.

livid widget
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Can’t sleep though

candid viper
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Oh, sorry to hear that.

red rock
livid widget
red rock
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I feel you

candid viper
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So I dropped an implemention I've coded for another software stack in and it worked fine, which clued me into a problem and researching on that led me to another extension (Home LLM) which is working well. 👍

plush spear
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This Dutch utility is promoting a Home Energy Measurement System that is looking veeeeerrry familiar. Quite shameless if you ask me

https://youtu.be/tL5yXsJN-Qg?si=1l6bjhafnIaONbnu

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iron granite
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Wouldn't be the first copy

dapper root
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Can someone direct me pls? I have an idea for an app I want to build on top of home assistant, but I'm not sure what the right way to "package" this would be (add-on, integration, completely separate)

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I want to build a score keeping app for ping pong where users can press a zigbee button on each side of the table to regsiter a point, then have a wall-mounted display that shows the score and some other information like who's turn it is

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I think I can just build this as a completely separate nodejs app that webhooks into HA to get button press state, but it would be cool if I could do this in a such a way that the data is stored somewhere in HA

fathom sparrow
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It would be easiest as an integration

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you could even just make a blueprint

dapper root
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reposted to #developers idk if that's a better place 🙏

fathom sparrow
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it would just be an entity

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make a entity that resets the score (button). Make an entity (button) that increments team a, one for team b. Then you just display those on a dashboard.

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paring it with any switch would just be an automation

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I'm sure someone has already done this TBH

dapper root
fathom sparrow
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well it doesn't look like anyone has this

dapper root
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i will build it and publish it :D

static schooner
forest edge
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this channel seems to lost some of its sass

iron granite
fathom sparrow
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apparently no one wants to shitpost here anymore

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I'm gonna roll my eyes preemptively

lone dagger
red rock
iron granite
desert cave
solar zealot
red rock
solar zealot
hollow glacier
summer depot
iron granite
forest edge
fathom sparrow
lone dagger
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YOU'VE GOT THE GIFT

fathom sparrow
lone dagger
summer depot
fathom sparrow
tidal bronze
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Did the meme channel get merged in here?

iron granite
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Sir, those are gifs

tidal bronze
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Ahh. So if it's moving it's a gif. Got it.

solar zealot
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We don't post gifs here, it's gifs

iron granite
tidal bronze
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Now that makes better sense

lone dagger
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Sorry, guess we went too overboard on the shitposting. lul

ocean oar
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If you don't go overboard, is it really shitposting?

tender prism
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Depends on the last time we flushed...

fathom sparrow
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They need a better wading through shit gif

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"they"

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whoever the fuck they are

tender prism
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That guy needs a courtesy flush for sure.

forest edge
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a sea of yellow and a few turquoise do not make up for the lack of sass..

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replacing the DFI sensor on my LR3 for the very last time

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love how it took them 3 iterations of that sensor before they thought it was a good idea to seal the ir lights in clear plastic

tidal bronze
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Customer service AI bots should be banned. What a waste of key strokes.

tame tartan
ocean oar
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The WiFi board on mine also decided to up and die (not that I really care), everything else still works but the ESP that runs it is apparently dead

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At least by the time it fails again they might have finally worked out all the bugs with the LR4 and I can just upgrade to one of those

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my second DFI change so actually I got to see all 3 iterations in person since the machine came with the original and swapped it for the second varaition and now to the third. Also had to swap the control board but only cause wifi stopped working but everything else with the board worked fine. The control board I had had the wifi esp as a seperate stand alone module, the control board I got now has everything on the same pcb

ocean oar
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I will say - given how many of the damn things you have to remove, especially for the DFI board - it is nice that they only use a single size of screw for the entire device

forest edge
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all in all I really got no complaints. the machine is a beast and aside from the $80 control board which was just a preference to me for wanting wifi back, all the other parts I had swapped on it was rather cheap in terms of keeping the same unit going vs buying a new one etc

ocean oar
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That was my thought too. Aside from consumables, have spent about 15% of the purchase price in parts over 4 years. Can't complain at all.

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Certainly compared to scooping cat shit

forest edge
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yea.. scooping is for the birds

livid widget
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As a result, I had a parcel shipped across the entire country twice, before they lost it.

forest edge
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@tidal bronzeshould have came to visit with your car. we just had marble size hail come through

chrome steppe
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can I ask if iOS companion notifications are still absolutely momentary or do I have to make a thread for that? (I promoise I'm not trolling)...

tidal bronze
tidal bronze
livid widget
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So many of these now 😦

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And why do we have so many people here with “admin” as their discord username!?

errant flume
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Ok, so I cannot jump into the "cameras" channel and chat with the people and developers there anow?

forest edge
light dock
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Moved my Hue lights to my zigbee controller to get a stronger network but really missing the ability to have it respond to music like the hue sync app can do. Is there any way to achieve this with Home Assistant currently?

clever mortar
livid widget
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Annoyed that my garage door looks to be too frustrating to consider integrating. 😦

fathom sparrow
#

Chamberlain has a grip on the industry

livid widget
fathom sparrow
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🤷‍♂️

livid widget
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Apparently there's a generic integration I can use that works with "almost all of them", but I've no idea how that would work.

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And since it's a rental, I'm not keen on modifying it.

fathom sparrow
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You won’t be able to automate your door without modifying it

red rock
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unless it has physical buttons

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switchbot

fathom sparrow
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Because chamberlain owns myq and it’s locked behind their api

clever mortar
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Radtgo or some such

livid widget
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I did consider that actually, I could put a switchbot on the remote control.

red rock
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ratgdo

fathom sparrow
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Ratgdo requires rewiring

red rock
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Rage against the garage door opener

fathom sparrow
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Oooh that’s a good name

red rock
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as in

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I never used one of them, but I can imagine a few points of failures when using one of them

livid widget
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Well, I could put it inside a mechanical vice, however, I notice a lot of switchbots seem to prefer a lever-based arm for some reason.

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Rather than screw in/out.

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Which means there might be a fiar bit of torque required for that arm.

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And... Annoyingly...

It's the same button for both close and open. 😦

red rock
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What kind of remote control?

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maybe someone reverse engineered the radio protocol

livid widget
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All I know is that it uses 50Hz.

red rock
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I have ventilation at home controlled by 443Mhz and that's reverse engineerd and now I use that with an ESPHome device

clever mortar
livid widget
iron granite
livid widget
iron granite
livid widget
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🤣

fathom sparrow
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Would probably cost $80 total

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$40 for the opener, $40 for ratgdo, and it wouldn't impact the current install

livid widget
fathom sparrow
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not wireless

livid widget
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And i would have to pair it

fathom sparrow
#

and?

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it's just a button on the back of the garage door opener

livid widget
fathom sparrow
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Looking online, this is a chaimberlain product

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the remotes are $25

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so, you can do exactly as I said for $80

livid widget
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Ah i see.

So i could hack it indeed, and pair the new remote to the system.

fathom sparrow
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yes, but it will auto pair typically

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I'm talking wired remote

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like what you have when you exit your garage

livid widget
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Yeah it seems fairly simple to pair new remotes in.

livid widget
fathom sparrow
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the back of the garage door opener

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The thing that actually moves your garage door

livid widget
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Oh i see, i’ll have to take another look in the daylight but feeling i don’t want to invest too much in modifying it anyway - particularly if i don’t know if I’ll still be in this house next year

fathom sparrow
livid widget
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Those are all buttons though? I didn’t think they had an I/O panel there?

fathom sparrow
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it will be above those

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oh, sorry, behind the snap away panel

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Pull off that panel and look, I can't find pics of what's behind that online, so I could be wrong

livid widget
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Yeah i think i’ll leave it. Don’t want to touch it really

solar zealot
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How bad of an idea would you say is it to Magnet mount an access point

fathom sparrow
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magnet mount it closed?

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as long as it has the ability to disengage automatically like the real magnet mount systems, then it's fine

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the magnets don't work when the power goes out, so you can leave. They are connected to a fire system, so you can leave

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if it doesn't have those capabilities, I think it's a bad idea

solar zealot
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ChillBar_noted do I need to check with local authorities if I can have a pipeline installed for the fire system

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Or would this be an out of sight they won't need to care kinda installation

fathom sparrow
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🤷‍♂️ I only know USA laws

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last 2 companies I worked at use zwave devices and have door lock systems like this.

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they all had multiple ways the door would disengage the magnet

tiny wigeon
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I'm relatively new to HA, I've got it all active in my home (running in a VM on a QNap), but the light switches I bought are Zemismart ones, and they can't be controlled individually. The 3 gang ones all switch at once if I try to toggle one output.
How do I go about debugging this and working out how to create a custom handler? I can't find anything about this online...

fathom sparrow
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what do you mean custom handler?

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You want to integrate this into HA?

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if yes, you need to reverse engineer the API if someone hasn't done that already. And chances are, it may not be possible

tiny wigeon
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Yes, I'd like it to work the same as any other supported switch 🙂

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It's recognised as a TS0013, but obviously has something different

fathom sparrow
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This is a TUYA product?

tiny wigeon
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It sends all the correct events to HA, and it's just the activation codes from HA to the switch that are somehow wrong

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I'm not sure how or why it's seen as a TS0013

fathom sparrow
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my guy...

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tiny wigeon
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The ZTB23 version is Zigbee

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It's just not shown on the site

fathom sparrow
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If that doesn't work properly with the ZHA integration, you can attempt to create a quirk. I've never done that but you should create a topic in #1284966617670881350 and tag it zigbee

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otherwise you can switch to Z2M and see if it works by looking in their device catalog

tiny wigeon
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I've never used Z2M, although I did install it

fathom sparrow
tiny wigeon
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OK, thanks! I'll give a ping in there and see how I go!

forest edge
fathom sparrow
#

who doesn't love sugar

forest edge
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@tidal bronze that's who

fathom sparrow
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booze has sugar in it

tidal bronze
forest edge
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yea see.. his body is a porta potty, er i mean temple

quiet onyx
livid widget
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Oh wow.

fathom sparrow
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I saw that @red trout , your secret is not safe

summer depot
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I use Zooz ZEN17 wired in parallel to garage door push button connections ... works fine.

fathom sparrow
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That only works if your garage door supports it

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you can do that with chaimberlain group garage door openers only if you solder to the leads of the button

static schooner
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good way to short out your garage door opener if not 🙂

fathom sparrow
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chaimberland group owns

Chamberlain — the company's do-it-yourself line of garage door openers.
LiftMaster — the company's line of garage door openers for professional installers.
Raynor — the company's line of garage door openers for professional installers. This line of professional installers is slightly less common than LiftMaster.
Craftsman — re-branded Chamberlain models sold at Sears. Those products have a "139" model prefix to denote that the Chamberlain Group made them for Sears.
Clicker — a line of universal garage door remotes.
summer depot
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I'm ignorant 'splain it . Every garage door I've ever had used screw terminals to connect a dry switch on the motor unit

fathom sparrow
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Garage door openers now, you cannot use the leads because anyone can splice the line and touch the wires, oepening your garage door

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so all 'signals' over the line are encrypted with a code sent from the opener to the button and vice versa

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i.e. you can't just plug in a relay

tidal bronze
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Yep

fathom sparrow
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and chaimberland group has a strangle hold on the industry by owning most of the companies that produce them, so they force you to use a cloud based app called myQ that does not play nice with 3rd parties

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and it's limited in functionality

tidal bronze
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You can always solder direct to PCB Momentary Tactile Push Button legs.

summer depot
fathom sparrow
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Yep, that's what I did in the past, now I just use ratgdo because it offers open/close states instead of using a separate tilt sensor

fathom sparrow
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keypads, push buttons, everything now is an encrypted signal, so no matter where you put it, it can't open your garage if you splice the wires

tidal bronze
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As long as you go direct to button you are good.

fathom sparrow
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which you can't do on the keypads outside your garage

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so, it's all keypads fault

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if you have an old garage door, ~15+ years old, you'll probably be fine

tidal bronze
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Got rid of keypads sometime ago. Ugly

summer depot
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Don't have any key pads. Just hard-wired switch near the door from house to the garage . Our phones are the keypad. Opener is 5 years old . Some kind of Linear.

fathom sparrow
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I was thinking of adding one, I left my house this summer, accidentally locked the door and didn't have my phone on me

fathom sparrow
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aladin?

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Aladdin Genie series

summer depot
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Linear is the brand don't know the model

fathom sparrow
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well, ya got lucky with your brand

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everywhere around where I live is Liftmaster

summer depot
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So reading between thew lines are you saying that those openers that you referenced only have RF based control. No hard wired buttons?

fathom sparrow
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No, they have hardwired buttons

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but the communication over the hard wire is encrypted

tidal bronze
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The lift master 2 conductor now carries, temp, motion sensor and button trigger.

summer depot
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ahhh not just a dry contact but some kind of over the wire protocol

tidal bronze
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Yep. So you can't use the wire as a NO contact

summer depot
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that sucks but I see why if people had outdoor keypads

tidal bronze
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Battery powered keypads are RF bound.

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Sucks, no. Just solder direct to inside button and good to go. No matter what comms they use you interact with a mechanical switch.

summer depot
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Then hook up a Z-Wave or Zigbee remote dry contact switch to the switch button contacts ... not difficult.

fathom sparrow
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Yah, I soldered to one of the RF remotes, I soldered to the hardwire one at one point. But the ratgdo has been the best bang for the buck so far. Don't even need an extra button/remote

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The benefit to the ratgdo, is that it costs the same as a zwave or zigbee remote, but it also talks to the garage door opener

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so it provides open/close info, light info, sensor interruption info, and lets you open, close, and stop the garage door

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and the wiring is almost the same as a relay

summer depot
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Looks like the ratgdo revere engineered the protocol

fathom sparrow
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Yep

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it's a dude out of upstate NY that reverse engineered it and put it on an ESP32

tidal bronze
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ratgdo looks nice.

fathom sparrow
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now he sells it for $30

summer depot
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good deal

fathom sparrow
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you can build it yourself if you want

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but I just paid $30

tidal bronze
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Thought about beam sensors as well.

fathom sparrow
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Yeah, it does those too

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I made automations to fuck with my wife

summer depot
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ratgdo looks like a nice device . I might have used it if I had known it existed . I love ESP32's . Chamberlain must have used pretty lame encryption if the guy hacked it

fathom sparrow
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I'm not sure that guy hacked it himself

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they've used the same signal encryption for the last 15ish years

summer depot
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ahhhh insider help perhaps

fathom sparrow
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I think someone else came up with the software

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he just made the hardware, turned it into a project, etc

summer depot
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Nice project

fathom sparrow
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it works for other brands world wide too

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So I think he had to have had help

azure rock
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@lone dagger you did a really nice job on Discord, I've not really been back here since you finished the threading and just the whole system is far more organized and automated - having been a Discord admin for a very long time I appreciate the work you, and presumably others, put into making it this way!

lone dagger
lone dagger
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But thank you. BongoCatEyes

azure rock
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LOL, I've been here a while, it was just too chaotic for me to participate much

summer depot
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It looks like the RF devices use the Si4010-C2 chip that has onboard 128 bit AES encryption so hacking that while possible would be hard

lone dagger
azure rock
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That's the nature of discord, it's the support channels that were impossible to track over long periods. I threaded everything I answered but that's because I'm a Discord guy and it is more efficient 🙂

tender prism
tidal bronze
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"A black ******* is parked in a driveway. The license plate reads "******".
A golden retriever walks around patio furniture"

How did I miss frigate to Google Generative AI.

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ALPR and type of dog, more triggers 🙂

static schooner
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Alert based on level of floofiness

real frigate
tidal bronze
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Yep time to flood my wife's phone with crap

lone dagger
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Oh my gods yes, and please document the reactions.

tidal bronze
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Would be interesting to see if it can identify ups/amazon/fedex

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Let's see

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Oh boy I am finally going to have fun with the doorbell TTS speaker.

real frigate
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Damnit. QUIT GIVING ME BAD IDEAS!!!

tidal bronze
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I already mess with them, this will one up.

fathom sparrow
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Lol, I think mine would be "A kid ran by" non stop

tidal bronze
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Lmao.

fathom sparrow
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my 2 neighbors have kids that are best friends

tidal bronze
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You can filter that in the prompt

real frigate
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“Ignore the small humans running around”. Something like that? lol

fathom sparrow
#

what if I want to trip them

real frigate
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I mean… why wouldn’t you want to trip them? I’m failing to see why that’s even a question. 🤣

tidal bronze
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Little wowed how it recognizes the make and model of the car from the front only.

real frigate
#

Ugh. Great. Now I’m going to have to go home and feed my cameras to Gemini. Damnit @tidal bronze . I blame you for giving me horrible ideas.

tidal bronze
#

You're welcome 😆

real frigate
#

Although… I just freed up one of my servers last night. Could work for an ollama install if I throw a GPU into it. ablobthinking

tidal bronze
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Will be a good test how they compare.

real frigate
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Yup. Plus, I’ve been wanting to get Gemini out of my HA for a while now as well.

tidal bronze
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For me this will be great to make sure what vehicles are in the driveway. If it misses ALPR then by model and make. Need to gather more data points.

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Brief description of the image. No stationary objects. License plate. Make and model of the vehicle

real frigate
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That works for you in a state that has front plates... My state... not so much

tidal bronze
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Make and model then

azure rock
# tender prism Hi! You lost? (Also Sir GoodEnough...)

I love how it's surprising that I'm here, I'm pretty sure I was here before I was on the forums and I've been serving and administering Discord servers since Discord first released, lol. I chose not to actively participate here because I find support systems on Discord tend to be chaotic and messy until threading came along. Obviously it has changed so I'm kicking the tires.

crisp oriole
azure rock
#

No matter what you do you always piss off someone, there's no avoiding it. A lot of people hate change.

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I bet there's an entire swath of people that are upset that Padwan and Jedi went away. I have no idea what drove the new rank of "Crow" but whatever it was, someone is mad lol

iron granite
#

That wasn't the case, tbh.
More the transition of the support channels from a chat to a forum-like experience.

azure rock
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That's a total transformation of Discord in a very major way, so it's very understandable that it would upset folks

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I'm loving it now, honestly, where I was neutral to "could care less" before

iron granite
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We got some feedback, that the new structure led to fewer questions being left unanswered. They get more attention than a short mention in a stream of chat messages.

azure rock
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And that's exactly why this is far better. It's also why I mentioned that Discord was never good for support, especially when you have as large of a user base as this, and that's the main reason: questions get lost in the stack

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Chat is Discord's DNA, I don't think they figured it would become such a globally used platform when it was first written to replace Vent as a way to talk to friends while gaming or co-opping on something

peak slate
mortal walrus
#

Right - that "chat" vs "support" thing is where people like me are annoyed with the new layout - it's better for support, sure, but in exchange we've lost some spaces that had grown a bit of a chat community around particular aspects of HA or related technologies.

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i'm here to hang out with folks using ha, talk about some of the tech stuff, and sometimes help people out; not to go through support tickets :)

azure rock
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Fortunately you still have a handful of chat channels to use, best of both worlds

mortal walrus
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like, right now, i have no idea where a "hey, look, nanoleaf has some new matter firmware on the testnet dcl" sort of message would be appropriate.

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(which previously would be the sort of thing discussed over in #matter-archived )

azure rock
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Let @lone dagger know, this is a total re-do and might need some refinements, I noticed the same type of deficiency here myself

lone dagger
azure rock
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There you go 🙂

mortal walrus
#

ah, i thought that was supposed to be the diy channel? looking at the topic now its focus seems to have expanded a bit

lone dagger
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It's very likely you weren't around when I got it up and running.

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But I also took a weekend before I updated the description, lmao.

tidal bronze
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@real frigate Wowza! A FedEx delivery person is delivering a large package. The person is wearing a purple shirt and black shorts. They are placing a large, brown box on a doormat. The box appears to be about 2 feet tall and 2 feet wide.

azure rock
#

... and I let a bunch of people in China know... 😛

tidal bronze
#

Oh that's wonderful. More the merrier.

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I think TTS can surely make some fashion statements about the "shorts"

real frigate
#

Remind me to share some of my more “colorful” TTS notifications. You’ll enjoy them. lol

tidal bronze
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Would love to get some ideas. Although no Goog love for Amazon. A delivery person wearing a blue shirt with a blue and white logo is placing two packages on a doormat. The logo is not recognizable enough to determine which company. The person is wearing a wide-brimmed hat, black shorts, and a black belt. They are wearing a watch on their left wrist. They are facing the camera with their right hand raised.

real frigate
#

It’s funny how Gemini interprets “be as sarcastic as you want”. lol

tidal bronze
#

Going to run about 20 to 30 snapshots per delivery company and see where this goes.

tawny flume
#

nice addon QF-KELP, you train me to same with doubletake and gemini

sterile ferry
#

I'm pretty sure frigate 0.15 wil have ai descriptions built into it as an option.

forest edge
#

whats all this ai talk in here

iron granite
red rock
#

I need cameras though before I can start with frigate

sterile ferry
#

typically yes.

tidal bronze
forest edge
tidal bronze
#

That's a must. I am more worried about the sombrero diameter

forest edge
tidal bronze
#

Perfect

static schooner
#

looks like one of those social-distancing sombreros

tidal bronze
#

Me want

static schooner
#

needs some fringe

tidal bronze
#

Nice can do the trash can count Friday mornings.

#

Pretty excited to write new automations, completely pointless but fun. 🤣

lone dagger
#

It’s a really fun form of organization and it pleases my brain. I totally get you.

lone dagger
tender prism
tender prism
tame tartan
#

Should a shelly dinner switch just show up in discovered or do i need to install the shelley app in my phone too?

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Doesn't seem like an involved enough question for a full post in the support channels, apologies if I should be doing that

forest edge
#

aka you'll have to add it to your network either via the app or it's internal webserver

tame tartan
#

Thanks. Is my first one and I'm very much experimenting here

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I noticed it was buzzing while dimmed with a dumb lutron switch, so I was experimenting to see if the shelley dimmer would get rid of the buzz. Sadly, i don't think it's in the cards

forest edge
#

the bulb or switch buzzing?

tame tartan
#

Either the light or the controller in the detached box of the light. Can't listen at the moment because I told it to connect to my wifi and now it's failing to connect or install in HA. Not sure how to get back into it

ocean oar
#

You can factory reset most Shelly devices by turning off the circuit breaker, turning it back on, then toggling the attached switch off and on 5 times

forest edge
#

not all "dimmable" bulbs are worth a shit and they will buzz when they are either shit or starting to fail

ocean oar
#

Sometimes switching the dimmer from trailing edge to leading edge (or vice versa) can change whether they buzz or not

#

Dimming LEDs is a wildly unpredictable science

civic rivet
#

what aqara cube should I get? The WiFi one or the zigbee T1 pro? I know I've seen before some people talking about them here and that one or the other has some issues, but can't find the conversation

tame tartan
# ocean oar Sometimes switching the dimmer from trailing edge to leading edge (or vice versa...

Wild, I found that setting in the shelly app. Still buzzing. I'm unsure if I'll be able to hear it when the housing is up in the attic, but perhaps it's better to just return this one. Is there a way to uncover all these setting in HA? Seems like the shelly app is going to be crucial for updating the firmware on initial boot of devices at least (that's why it would configure in HA earlier)

forest edge
forest edge
civic rivet
#

I do have a zigbee network already but wifi is fine too as long as it works

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I can of course handle finding all I need to get it working in both zigbee and wifi, was just wondering if someone knows which one had issues or maybe if there's still any issues with missing features or I might just be thinking of the before-fore times

forest edge
#

don't have one so wouldn't know but having a hard time believing you would be missing features from one to the other in fact if anything in terms of HA you'd probably get more information to play with

civic rivet
#

makes sense, not even sure if the wifi one is local

tame tartan
#

I might have this wired wrong. The dumb dimmer switch has no effect on the light coming on or off

forest edge
knotty isle
civic rivet
#

I am in Europe, how much do you want for them? Will need to see if with shipping they're more expensive than new. Might be a better idea to discuss this in a DM though

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I haven't really shipped stuff in the EU so I don't know what that entails

knotty isle
tame tartan
civic rivet
#

I'm up to help too with wiring, you can tag me if I'm on! Have a great night!

tacit sonnet
#

How did discord make a worse Tapatalk

lone dagger
ocean oar
#

100% neutral 😎

tame tartan
#

@forest edge and @civic rivet i figured out the issue. (And clearly did not go to sleep) Using a dumb dimmer with a slider isn't supported with the shelly dimmer 2. You need a "3 position retractive" to toggle the light and hold for dimming. Interestingly wiriing the dumb dimmer to sw1 and N (instead of sw1/L) will make it so the toggle works but alas, the dimming slider does nothing

#

I'm still trying to figure out the stipulation about minimum voltage draw in non-neutral installs.

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This light only draws 5w, so even hooked up to a pair of them i guess i would need some bypass device?