the-water-cooler

[prisma briar]

My last car drowned and I was given an extended cab F-150, this thing is ridiculously pointlessly huge.

[forest edge]

i mean.. not for it's intended purpose

[weak musk]

I'm saying, just because something used to be popular or good doesn't mean it always will be. Take something, I assume familiar to you, like horse drawn carriages: once popular now not.

[prisma briar]

It was originally purchased to pull a 30ft camper

[forest edge]

careful.. those will make a come back before your day is up, you watch

[forest edge]

you should have seen when cars would pull camper trailers in the 70's and even still in the 80's

[weak musk]

or even currently in non-american parts of the world.

The obsession with trucks in the US makes next to no sense.

[prisma briar]

My dad had a much more reasonably sized 90s Ford Explorer that towed a pop-up camper just fine

[forest edge]

for town lincoln boat with v8 pulling a large camper trailer was always something to see

pop up camper has no weight

the prius could have pulled that

[prisma briar]

It was like 3500lbs fully loaded

The 30 ft trailer was like 12,000

[weak musk]

I think a lot of modern cars can tow just fine. It's the stopping that's the issue.

[forest edge]

it's not an obsession, it's useful. you talk like other countries don't use trucks lol

[prisma briar]

Both of the campers I've used have had brakes on the camper

[forest edge]

you gonna toss a bucket full of dirt in your back seat of your honda?

[prisma briar]

I moved all kinds of crap in my Altima

[forest edge]

i'd like to see you haul dirt in your car lol

[prisma briar]

I moved bags of dirt in it

[forest edge]

lol no bags.. raw dirt

[weak musk]

I have no issue with trucks being used as trucks but trucks used as a daily driver is assinine

[prisma briar]

I don't live a live that leads me to need to move raw dirt.

[static schooner]

I think you'd have to have a master cylinder for brakes for any sizable trailer

[weak musk]

90% of people don't use trucks the way you're describing Sonoma.

and in other parts of the world the trucks are significantly smaller and more useful

[forest edge]

well that's a fine line isn't it. you buy the truck for all the uses for it yet inbetween those uses it's your vehicle to drive daily lol

[prisma briar]

I'm not sure how it's mechanically laid out but there's an extra control mounted under the dash on the truck to adjust how strong the brakes on the trailer are.

I don't really know car mechanics

[static schooner]

don't you just need it to connect to the tongue?

[forest edge]

here suv's is the thing you should complain about. not trucks

[weak musk]

that's fair

[forest edge]

suv's here has replaced cars

[static schooner]

truck stops or slows down, cylinder compresses, applies brakes

[prisma briar]

connect it to the tongue, there's a chonky 7-pin circular connector they use instead of the 4-pin lighter trailers that connects the trailer to the brake system, and the chains and emergency pull cord

[static schooner]

I was just imagining an electronics-less hydraulic system

[forest edge]

i missed what trailer you are talking about

you saying a pop up had it's own brakes?

[tidal bronze]

You miss trailers?

Hmmm

[prisma briar]

Yea, both the pop-up and 30ft campers my dad had had their own brakes

[forest edge]

you ever see one?

[tidal bronze]

Sorry no. We don't do that stuff here

[forest edge]

the pop up having it's own brakes makes no sense at all

[prisma briar]

idk why, I just remember having to calibrate their strength

because that stupid knob would get knocked and they'd go full brake

[forest edge]

brakes for trailers are required after the trailer itself hits a certian weight. anything light dosen't need them and is a complete waste

[tidal bronze]

Trailers..... huh

[weak musk]

Still takes strain off the vehicle regardless if it's needed....

[forest edge]

i figured most stuff was moved by people with hand carts around the city

[forest edge]

lol strain?

electric brakes on a trailer don't work the same as you putting your foot on the pedal

[tidal bronze]

If you see a trailer in my area.....Houston we have a problem 🤣

[forest edge]

you need to get out more. come visit. i'll let you touch my drone

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/hurricane-winds-storm-windy-hurricane-gif-14925100

[tidal bronze]

I thought you were going to say touch my trailer LOL

[forest edge]

i didn't want to scare you too early

[weak musk]

I'm pretty sure this exists.

[ocean oar]

Totally does, usually looks a bit like this:

[forest edge]

camper, enclosed trailers and big car haulers about the only trailers you'll find brakes on. everything else you won't

[ocean oar]

Weight of the trailer pushes the piston in the hitch toward the vehicle, which applies the brakes on the trailer

[forest edge]

those are diffrent

[tidal bronze]

Guess the cookie is talking about GTS

[weak musk]

These are what Rob was talking about

[forest edge]

thats an emergency brake, much like how parking brakes work

ah

well his 30ft should have had electric brakes on it

[weak musk]

and work in motion

[forest edge]

those that you listed, don't get plugged into the vehicle

they work by a cable being pulled when the trailer disconnects

[weak musk]

negative

[prisma briar]

Those are the emergency brakes for if it becomes disconnected

[forest edge]

not negative

[weak musk]

#the-water-cooler message

[forest edge]

that picture you posted showed it lol

well whatever

[prisma briar]

There is a pull cord but that photo is not it

[forest edge]

diffrent mechanisim but they are not all like that

[prisma briar]

It's a steel cable on mine that gets attached to the vehicle and if the tongue pops off it'll drag on that and pull the trailer to a stop.

[forest edge]

but your 30ft camper had eletric brakes too right?

[prisma briar]

Yea

It was my dad's, I only ever moved the 30ft one once, but it's got brakes. He had the transmission gearing changed to pull it better too

[forest edge]

the term "trailer brakes" should be used for the standard electric braking system. that other thing is just emergency brakes

[prisma briar]

I believe that's a hydraulic piston that gets pushed in and applies pressure like a brake pedal. It's between the car and the trailer so when you stop it gets pushed in automatically and can drive the brakes.

[weak musk]

Yes

[prisma briar]

I've never seen one but the idea seems intuitive

[weak musk]

it also has the emergency "trailer detached" braking

[forest edge]

not seen that

[weak musk]

https://www.thervgeeks.com/trailer-brake-system/#surge-brakes

[forest edge]

not something that operates the brakes normal during braking

[forest edge]

interesting. thats a new one to me

ah it's a fairly new thing

wonder how reliable that is over time

max rating up to 7700lbs.. must been made for people who want to tow smaller trailers with thier leaf lol

joking. 7700lbs not some small thing lol

[weak musk]

Yeah

I think uhaul uses the surge braking in their car transport trailers

[forest edge]

probably

for commercial it would be a wise investment

even on smaller trailers they rent

[weak musk]

yeah

[ocean oar]

Stops people doing dumb shit anyway 😄

[forest edge]

actually about to buy a new trailer.. funny this convo came up

[ocean oar]

Ha, I do actually have a picture, of when we had to chuck one of my father's cars on a trailer.
But can only just see the reservoir:

Also just fwiw when you say "fairly new thing", I took this picture in 2007

Towing giant oversized things has never really been a thing here due to ridiculously narrow roads, so electric brakes are the anomaly, not mechanical ones

[forest edge]

2007 is fairly new to me lol

that trailer looks to only have two boards for the wheels and open everywhere else. nerve racking loading up that car lol

[ocean oar]

Well also we were using a hatchback as "ballast" on the hitch, and it ended up a foot in the air 😄

Probably more nerve-wracking when I tell you it's a Lotus Esprit

Not the cheapest car in the world

[forest edge]

they still make those kinds of trailers. it robs it's uses for other things imo

[tidal bronze]

What a beautiful day!

[forest edge]

not without the center support. i just noticed that trailer only has the a frame and not the beam in the center

[forest edge]

looks ruined with that wine instead beer

[tidal bronze]

Beer? I got nothing to wash here.

[forest edge]

tell us. do you have hair on your chest?

[tidal bronze]

Wine should answer that question

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-as-smooth-as-an-android's-bottom-insurrection-data-riker-gif-6513778277345754775

[static schooner]

Riker withtout a beard looks like he's barely out of high school

[forest edge]

ok then

[static schooner]

no idea what the fuck that was

killed it with fire

[forest edge]

persistent

[static schooner]

somebody needs to get their quota of spam in before the week ends

[weak musk]

it is a holiday weekend afterall

[forest edge]

shocked the HA bot dosen't auto handle that

[neon glade]

i just got here and that was the first thing i saw lol

[forest edge]

my bot in my sc2 sever handles those spam messages

[static schooner]

it was deleting the messages as they were being sent because they were posted too quickly

they just kept posting

[tidal bronze]

That's a low blow on GTS. Come on now.

[static schooner]

"it"

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/spam-gif-10811817447080815426

[tidal bronze]

Your cat must be hapoy

[forest edge]

some of the crap you show us you eat.. i would actually open that can of spam if left with a choice lol

[tidal bronze]

Tunnel vision

I started at 9AM. Let's go already

[tidal bronze]

Welcome to HA 👋

[neon glade]

Thanks, it was quite the welcome. lol

[tidal bronze]

Ah.....this is nothing. Fireworks 🎆 later on

[static schooner]

I was kinda thinking that you were the third account that was going to start spamming while you were typing

with a name that I didn't recognize 🙂

had my finger ready for deployment

[tidal bronze]

You and your rubber hammer 🔨

[weak musk]

Gotta get your swings in while Missy is "away"

[tidal bronze]

Wonder if she is done with the bathroom

[weak musk]

phrasing!

[static schooner]

was about to say "TMI!"

[tidal bronze]

@neon glade so....you dabbling or head first?

[weak musk]

are we still talking about bathrooms?!

[neon glade]

i am kind of dabbling, but really trying to find out if it will work for me.

[tidal bronze]

Huh.

Elaborate

[weak musk]

#general-archived message

[neon glade]

i did in general.

[tidal bronze]

Not in scope. Sorry

Some kind soul will show up.

Although that's just a small percentage of automating. Hopefully you are here for the long haul.

@forest edge got your favorite flatbread.

[forest edge]

burnt notepad?

[weak musk]

it looks like broiled cheese before I click on the picture

[tidal bronze]

Cottage cheese flatbread 🤣

[forest edge]

cottage cheese and two eggs.. i actually like cottage cheese so it has me curious but sounds gross at same time

says you gotta eat it cold

i remember this https://youtu.be/H9AJkF2AJd4?si=HnRZcM2pJGEIomIW

[tidal bronze]

https://youtu.be/vqxWOpm1tPo?si=Yo6sQxekHVPYvLXh

I don't know whether to laugh or cry..... smartest eh?

Can't imagine someone actually would pay for this.

[forest edge]

rich people

[tidal bronze]

2002?

[winged obsidian]

@forest edge we do have good beer out here too

[forest edge]

Guinness?

[tidal bronze]

There's "good beer"?

[winged obsidian]

It’s called Little Nibs. Similar head to Guinness, a little more chocolate, slightly less dry.

[forest edge]

soon as he said honeywell security system i turned it off lol

[tidal bronze]

I feel so bad for people who go for this stuff.

[forest edge]

control4 in itself isn't horrible for people who don't want to mess with crap

even android baked in control for it

[tidal bronze]

I am good with it as long as they don't user the word "automation"

Extended remote control, yep, nothing else.

[forest edge]

well I think it can intergrate with HA

I thought I saw something about that

[tidal bronze]

"Automation" must mean something not freaking touch control and app control.

[forest edge]

they are doing whole home roku and out of all the options roku is the most user friendly which says a little about the person who owns that home lol

gross

it's heavly using voice

you know the home is gonna suck when it uses mostly voice

[tidal bronze]

I have no issue with these extended remote control or voice control but don't call it home automation 🤣

[forest edge]

thats like saying siri isn't automation

or alexa

automation isn't HA exclusive lol

[tidal bronze]

Automation is automation. Not touching a screen, phone or voice.

[forest edge]

I disagree there. touching a button to start a sequence of events is automation lol

[tidal bronze]

Nopes.

Sorry.

[young sigil]

Siri and alexa are fancy remote controls, not automation.

[forest edge]

how is touching a button diffrent from like a contact sensor?

[tidal bronze]

Oh boy

[young sigil]

You are manually triggering it ather than having the actions auomatically occur. The sceret is in the "auto" part.

[forest edge]

opening a door is pretty much the same hands on

[young sigil]

Not if you have an automatic door.

[forest edge]

well us poor people don't have those

[tidal bronze]

That's a bad example. You do shit yourself right?

[forest edge]

I have a button that disengages my garage ac unit which is governed by HA for when I leave the house. I consider it fully an automation that takes place

when i push it again when i get home it rengages it so that the ac will run

[tidal bronze]

If you have a button or any manual intervention you got it all wrong or you are still to get there

[forest edge]

I don't have to pull out my phone or deal with tracking my phone or her phone or anything, it's a 100% working solution

the button is no diffrent than the contact sensor.. it's a trigger

[tidal bronze]

As for me if I open HA for any reason in my day to day. I have failed.

[forest edge]

you also buy more crap than anyone else here and are constantly swapping stuff out so obviously you haven't worked out the bugs yet lol

[tidal bronze]

It's an experiment for sure. I will never disagree there. But screen, app or button press, oh boy I have failed miserably

I would say from my 20+ years, hardest was bathroom. Mmwave, PIR, distance, humidity and GPM, solved.

[forest edge]

i'll pick the tried and proved method that works every time without issue for $200 Alex

[winged obsidian]

No, I have 💩 completely automated.

[tidal bronze]

Ma mann!

@winged obsidian if you like Guinness, St. James's Gate is a must

[static schooner]

You know that's beer, right?

[tidal bronze]

Not in Dublin lol

[last cedar]

It is so good though

Especially mixed with a little blackcurrent

[forest edge]

@clear ferry jealous? https://youtu.be/n3x3Qc9D4S0?si=W19C_gN4KFtF6mmT

[cerulean karma]

The last non-local device on my network is slowly giving up its secrets. Anyone fancy valetudo for creality resin printers?

[forest edge]

Wakey wakey eggs and bakey

[solar zealot]

i dont even dare to ask what this is supposed to be

[forest edge]

its a benedict

eggs, sausage, biscuit and gravy

@tidal bronze a good breakfast am i right?

[tidal bronze]

Hmmm looks like a malfunctioned food processor

[forest edge]

What was it you said... Tunnel vision.

[solar zealot]

I would have guessed croutons and glue, but gravy explains it

[winged obsidian]

Gluetons

[prisma briar]

Gluon Gun?

a gluon gun is probably what those are coming out

[static schooner]

Watching The Rings of Power and Middle Earth sure looks like the California that Sonoma envisions. I'm pretty sure it's Missouri, though

[whole sphinx]

hi all!! maybe a stupid question.. there is any idea to make some Home assistant convention in the future (NEAR?)

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/spooky-volcano-doom-gif-15134179

[winged obsidian]

Convention, like where we all gather together in person?

Let’s do it out here and have @tidal bronze set the menu!

[forest edge]

yea that way not many show up and makes it easier to manage

[winged obsidian]

You could learn what sun feels like when it’s not humid

[tidal bronze]

Sonora tacos, south central. Too good.

[forest edge]

looks like a dumpster dive

[tidal bronze]

8th street, you know. Mind what you say. Lol

[winged obsidian]

Looks like horchata too. 😋

[tidal bronze]

Coconut horchata!

[winged obsidian]

Yum!

[forest edge]

glad to see our throw away food scraps are being reused

[tidal bronze]

People who know, they know. 😆

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/valve-valve-guy-half-life-half-life2-portal-gif-24740578

[prisma briar]

lol

[last cedar]

Trying to get through HL1 with my son

Doesn't have the level of exploration that I did

Kids these days...

[prisma briar]

heh

I play through HL1 every few years

[last cedar]

We got to || train tunnels with the blue monster || but he missed something and can't go futher and got frustrated

[prisma briar]

needs to ||power the rail to rotate the turntable||?

spoilers for a 26 year old game

[toxic oasis]

Hmmm HL1 , when at the beginning the lab goes bad and your computer screen goes dark ... I did panic for a good 5 sec

Thinking my computer broke

[last cedar]

Quite possibly!

[last cedar]

Of course! Hehe

[solar zealot]

is it just me or does ubiquiti not offer poe injectors for 2.5g eth?

[real frigate]

Nope. 👎

[solar zealot]

very sad, so sad

Guess I need to buy those from other brands if that even exists

[real frigate]

Yup. What annoys me is there is no UDM with a 2.5gb/10gb switch in it. The UDMP only has the 2 SFP ports on it.

[solar zealot]

The new version still doesn't have it?

I kinda want to buy two of the u7 pro max units but having to also buy two poe switches for no reason kinda sucks

Would that even work with me having one on each floor to have devices move between them as required?

[clear ferry]

I came back here to this nonsense

Better leave again

[forest edge]

Unifi.. the atx bug spray

you buy one damn thing from aliexpress and then they mail every damn day with "to pair with what your purchased"

[solar zealot]

If there would be other stuff to buy that doesn't suck as much

Or more like, that doesn't require subscriptions

[tidal bronze]

Depends on distance you are moving

[solar zealot]

How much should that be

Like I most definitely won't be out of range of either

[tidal bronze]

Depends on what the minimum RSSI you want it to be before roaming

[solar zealot]

That sounds like it can be configured

[tidal bronze]

Yes.

Although new devices are pretty good at letting go.

[solar zealot]

I have no experience with such setup yet, so idk what can be configured on it

Only thing I don't want is having to setup two different network names

[tidal bronze]

You have many options, minimum RSSI, AP locking for stuff in fringe areas and many more.

I would advise for multiple networks. Specially at least 2 x 2.4GHz only networks for all the stattionry iot devices.

I am not a fan of band steering

[solar zealot]

I'll put that on my to-do list once stuff shows up

[forest edge]

need moar wifi

[solar zealot]

And I'll totally ask in here if I need help hehe

[tidal bronze]

Nothing moves in 2.4ghz spectrum at my place other than roborocks

[tidal bronze]

Before trying to fine tune, setup and let it do it's auto setup and let it run for a few a few days.

[forest edge]

don't forget to follow the recommended every 6 inch ap spacing as well

[solar zealot]

I probably have the worst mounting points already, they just will live inside a shelf

[tidal bronze]

Hopefully you got IW stuff to match that radiation pattern

[solar zealot]

Currently it's three tp decos

But they only do 2x2

And that kinda doesn't work well for the 40ish devices that are connected

[tidal bronze]

Shelf is not the ideal place

[solar zealot]

Yea I may need to figure out something, most area would kinda always be behind them

Unfortunately I don't have enough wired connections in places

[tidal bronze]

Pull cable

[solar zealot]

This isn't an American paper house slicing concrete walls is kinda dirty

[tidal bronze]

Ahh you live in a house that fights you back? 😆

[solar zealot]

That's an accurate way to put it

If it somewhat works I probably get a u6 mesh as addition for the dead zone

[forest edge]

wifi signals having problems penetrating volcanic rock and mud between rooms?

[tidal bronze]

I would not worry ATM. Address all these once you have it going.

[solar zealot]

Usually the steel substructure

[forest edge]

the nerve of people who invent technology not considering those people who have to dig out thier homes rather than build them

[tidal bronze]

@solar zealot out of 30 how many moving?

[solar zealot]

Mostly just phones and notebooks

So maybe 7

Everything else is smart devices™️ tvs and stuff that stays rather stationary

[tidal bronze]

Somewhat diagonal between the 2 floors would be best, depending on your mounting options

[solar zealot]

Do they have a tool to design this?

I think I've heard about such thing

[tidal bronze]

Yes.

That's just a guide.

[solar zealot]

It's a very rectangular house, one goes into the ground floor top left room and the other would be top floor bottom right room but more to the center

It's not a huge area, 60m² per floorish

[tidal bronze]

I use it for airfiber which makes more sense but never for internal.

Your planed placement 👍

[solar zealot]

Oh, do I need one of those software key things as well? For the control software

[tidal bronze]

Spin it up in docker

[solar zealot]

Nice

Alright I'll call that a plan

[forest edge]

are these wired back haul?

[solar zealot]

The decos currently?

Two out of the three yes

It sometimes works, sometimes it doesn't. It's a bit magical wether or not they accept it

[forest edge]

so unifi controller using tp link ap's?

[tidal bronze]

Are you running VLANs?

[solar zealot]

no it's just tp decos atm

No vlans so far

[tidal bronze]

Since your switching over, take your time do it right the first time.

[forest edge]

assuming his switch/router is worth a crap.. dosen't unifi create it's own vlans for back haul?

linksys did

[tidal bronze]

No

[solar zealot]

It's some netgear 'managed' one and one mikrotik (swos)

I suppose something can be set there, even if it isn't very detailed

[tidal bronze]

If it's managed then yep

[forest edge]

loop prevention on those switchs behind a router I learned can be funky too

[tidal bronze]

Planning to try the U7 outdoor soon.

AC mesh unit are all beat up now. Lol

[forest edge]

can't decide if I want to buy the reolink 4k version of the doorbell or not

[tidal bronze]

I use RL doorbell. Pretty solid. It's old though

They have a new one out?

[forest edge]

the 4k isn't released yet but will be soon

you don't use the unifi doorbell?

[tidal bronze]

Nopes. I am never brand loyal. Always whatever works best.

[forest edge]

i think even the unifi pro is 2k but still has that neat screen lol

and the downward camera

[tidal bronze]

No screen, please.

[forest edge]

I would use it.. display all kinds of crap if i could

[solar zealot]

IR burnout : 👻

[tidal bronze]

BTW NS Panel 120 looks good. Table top mount too. Wonder it can be used instead of LG clock

[forest edge]

don't see why it couldn't

3d printed an enclosure?

[forest edge]

is it this? https://youtu.be/Y5ZXLwch7BM?si=iiRCphfT0YSvydpV

I don't think the hardware on that thing is any better than the lenovo

I think one of those tablets that are designed to always be plugged in coupled with one of those neat bed side stands would be better suit for what your after

least the hardware wouldn't be sheit

wonder what hollywood is gonna do when the day comes that some nerd will be able to tell ai to create a new movie

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/big-oof-size-small-medium-switch-gif-17355313

[forest edge]

looks Italian

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/italian-river-speed-boat-perfecto-gif-17332909

[forest edge]

why you don't plaster walls to require a drill bit to hang a picture

[solar zealot]

I want to know

[last cedar]

Know what?

[solar zealot]

Exactly

[tidal bronze]

The spacing is dead on. Anything wrong here?

[last cedar]

I wonder what the packet loss is like

[tidal bronze]

No loss, they supposed to jump at lightspeed.

[solar zealot]

All microcontrollers use holes

This is fine

[iron granite]

But only square holes

[solar zealot]

Hmmm

[prisma briar]

I'm just using 1gb 802.3at adapters for my 2.5gb APs, they get the full 2.5gb.

Damn I was scrolled up

[solar zealot]

I'll appreciate the answer tho ^^

So it probably has no additional switching logic inside then

Not sure how Poe injection works

[crisp oriole]

K i fixed my washing maschine. it will no longer mix up quotes.

[prisma briar]

Each twisted pair inside a cat cable carries the positive and negative version of a signal, any interference will apply to both equally, then they can be combined on the receiving end to rebuild the signal without any noise. That's differential/balanced signaling.

Modern PoE injectors crank up the voltage/current carrying the signal to the point that it can be used as a source to power things, old ones just used unused lines in the wire for power.

[solar zealot]

i see i see

[ocean oar]

Put another way, normal Ethernet signalling voltage is -2V to +2V, when you're doing PoE you just have one pair that's doing 46V to 50V instead. Still 4V peak-to-peak, just with a big DC offset

(or two pairs, for the higher power version)

[prisma briar]

I thought they got the DC offset from running two pairs at a different voltage

[ocean oar]

One pair as ground, one +48V

[prisma briar]

Yea

[ocean oar]

Although again I guess it wouldn't matter if it was -24V/+24V

DC is weird

[solar zealot]

How does it figure out how much voltage is required

Or is this part of the connection handshake before data moves through it?

[forest edge]

well i put that ant infested reolink go pt out at my spring fed pond. curious see what critters I see

@last cedar maybe we'll see some of your family members get eaten

[prisma briar]

There's a passive standard that just sends power down the line but iirc it's limited to 100mbps connections. Most that you'll encounter send just enough power to negotiate until the receiving device requests more power.

Passive ones can blow devices if used wrong, active ones should be good.

You're unlikely to need a passive one for anything

[ocean oar]

@solar zealot Voltage is constant. Current is negotiated.
There are now 8 PoE classes; Original 802.3af has class1 (4W), class2 (8W), class3 (15.4W). 802.3at class4 (30W). 802.3bt class5 (45W), class6 (60W), class7 (75W), class8 (90W).
1-4 use a resistance-based detection handshake, 5-8 use LLDP to negotiate.
And in all cases there's allowance for 15% loss in the cable, so the power allowed to be consumed is 3.8/6.5/13/25.5/40/51/62/71W respectively.

[prisma briar]

There are 24v and 48v PoE standards.

Generally the adapter is one or the other

[solar zealot]

Interesting interesting

So it's a kinda 'buy the right stuff' compatibility

[prisma briar]

Your device will probably list something like 802.3af or 802.3at, that's basically the class qupada mentioned.

idk about bt but I've never seen an af or at injector that didn't do the full af/at spec.

[ocean oar]

It's amazing the collection of things you can amass too. This is from my switch:

sw1#show poe | grep -v disabled
                   PSE                      LLDP    Legacy Power   Power Port
Interface Capacity Enabled Pairset Priority Enabled Detect   Max Granted State    Class   Power Current Voltage Temp
--------- -------- ------- ------- -------- ------- ------ ----- ------- -------- ------- ----- ------- ------- ----
Et2            30W true    Alt A   medium   true    false    15W  15.40W powered  class0   5.1W    94mA   55.1V  24C
Et3            30W true    Alt A   critical true    false    15W  15.40W powered  class0   4.5W    83mA   55.4V  24C
Et4            30W true    Alt A   critical true    false    15W  15.40W powered  class0   2.4W    44mA     55V  24C
Et11           30W true    Alt A   medium   true    false    15W  15.40W powered  class0   2.4W    44mA     55V  29C
Et12           30W true    Alt A   low      true    false    30W     30W powered  class4   6.4W   116mA   55.2V  29C
Et20           60W true    4-pair  medium   true    false    60W     60W powered  class6   6.9W   125mA   55.2V  26C
Et21           60W true    4-pair  high     true    false    30W  29.33W powered  class4   5.4W    99mA   55.3V  26C
Et22           60W true    4-pair  high     true    false    45W  39.24W powered  class5   5.6W   103mA   55.3V  25C
Et23           60W true    4-pair  high     true    false    30W  29.33W powered  class4   8.2W   149mA   55.4V  26C
Et24           60W true    4-pair  high     true    false    30W  29.33W powered  class4   7.7W   140mA   55.2V  26C

[prisma briar]

You can get PoE extractors to power non-PoE devices over PoE, too

Basically regulators that give you a constant voltage and pass the data through

I had my ISP modem powered off of one of those before I switched ISPs

[ocean oar]

One of my colleagues is doing that with the ONT for their FTTH install, because the people who owned his house before him got it installed in a monumentally stupid location 😄

[prisma briar]

I had cut out a section of drywall and put an access panel over the hole, put a shelf inside, and had my ISP cable modem and a switch sitting in there.

But when I moved ISPs I moved where it was coming into the house so I pulled that panel and put the drywall back

[ocean oar]

ONT installed above the kitchen bench, for no particularly good reason:

[prisma briar]

lol

[forest edge]

I mean there is a lan plate there too.. that is odd in itself

[prisma briar]

With how they ran the fiber into my house I could easily get to the cable and move it anywhere I wanted.

It's just sorta sitting on the ground under my house

Assuming that's a hollow wall you could easily cut an access panel into it and put that stuff in the wall

[ocean oar]

I'd hazard a guess that used to be analogue phone jacks

But because 4-pair Ethernet cable costs less than 2-pair phone cable due to economy of scale, swapping the jacks is usually an option if your house is relatively new

[forest edge]

it would make no sense to install the fiber jack where there was no networking

although with that said, I have seen them do that in apartments

[prisma briar]

nothing about that makes much sense

[forest edge]

the fiber jack would be in the middle of the wall in a bedroom lol

[prisma briar]

My ONT is in my garage

[ocean oar]

You are forgetting though that the installers give remarkably few shits, and will install it on the inside of the closest exterior wall to the street

[prisma briar]

The first guy who came to install my fiber literally walked back to his truck and left when I told him where I wanted it ran.

Which was stupid, I'd already drilled all the holes for it.

[forest edge]

well here they have to hook everything up so doing an install like that would harder than if they routed outside around to where the networking is lol

our g fiber infrastructure is in the front between two houses. in order for them to hook mine up they will have to circle around 3 sides of my house outside lol

[ocean oar]

I got a bit lucky, the installer was perfectly happy to accommodate my oddball request.
My network rack is in the under-house crawl space (I bought an IP54 rated outdoor cabinet for it), and they were happy enough to put the ONT inside it for me.
Likewise, I'd drilled a hole in the cabinet and installed a compression gland, so all they had to do was run the cable and terminate it.
Probably helped that the conduit they were running the fibre through is about a metre away.
Handed them a 3U rack blanking plate and told them to screw the ONT onto it 😄

[forest edge]

as in open air under house?

[ocean oar]

It's enclosed, but far from sealed

[prisma briar]

They put an outdoor junction box on the side of my house that has a normal fiber connection on it and ran a pre-spliced 100' cable to my garage. Only about 50' was needed so I have a giant coil of it in my garage.

[forest edge]

ah basement-less houses here will have those. where they put the hot water tank, furnace etc

[prisma briar]

I'd be worried about mice and insects putting it under my house

[forest edge]

humidity would be my concern

[ocean oar]

Big steel box:

I'll probably jinx it saying this, but 3 years in and not a single spider has gotten inside

[forest edge]

is that a joice behind it held together by those tack plates? lol

[ocean oar]

35 years in an earthquake-prone area and the house hasn't fallen down, probably fine 🤷‍♂️

There is a 2nd one on the other side of the post

[forest edge]

it looks l notched so probably intentional

so you gotta crawl under there to reset your network? lol

[ocean oar]

Yes, but I've rebooted the ONT once in more than 3 years, and had to manually intervene in the switch, router or UPS exactly never

At this point I don't think I've opened it in more than 6 months

[prisma briar]

run a power switch for it inside

[ocean oar]

The ONT is now on one of the outlets the UPS can toggle independently... just waiting for the day that never seems to come when I might need to use that

[last cedar]

Hopefully not!

[forest edge]

didn't take long. your cousin must have gotten curious of the camera

hope they didn't chew on the camera antenna

[last cedar]

I sent them on a scouting mission to see what hardware you are running

[dusky plank]

https://kittenlabs.de/blog/2024/09/01/extreme-pi-boot-optimization/
very interesting for anyone running a pi with battery/solar

[solar zealot]

giggles in real microcontrollers

[tidal bronze]

@static schooner do you use frigate+?

[static schooner]

yes

[tidal bronze]

Messed with package detection?

[static schooner]

no. I labeled them, but I only care about people/car/cat/dog detection

[tidal bronze]

Copy.

[static schooner]

the only packages that cats carry are usually dead animals

[tidal bronze]

lol. Looking for a way to alert when packages are left in front of the door. Days go by and no one checks. Guess I will give frigate+ a try.

[static schooner]

I just worry about detecting the people delivering them, as well as anyone else approaching my front door

[forest edge]

I will say the new frigate ui kind of needs a beast of a comp to play the swapping between cameras during an event smoothly

[tidal bronze]

I prefer the old UI as well

[forest edge]

no exciting labor day amazon sales

[crisp oriole]

Btw i needed to get some marrocan radio streams (i dont use the radio integration) i asked the question in a dutch marrocan facebook group. That i needed direct streams of radio station for my home automation.

The 1st post was a compleat howto to setup home assistant and integrate everything except a list of radio streams.

Ended using chatgpt and a 50% url 404 rate

[tidal bronze]

If you see any Thermopro tempspike deals let me know

[forest edge]

i don't even know what that is

I did see a couple of mobile car android units. one looked like it would make an awesome bedside touch screen

finally a powered usb hub with just enough ports https://www.amazon.com/Powered-USB-Hub-Individual-Switches/dp/B07JM9ZFFV

[last cedar]

So accurate!

[crisp oriole]

Family of yours?

[forest edge]

typical LA https://youtu.be/-ermu5Xn9vk?si=_mJ9IuueaWwZzdvn

[tidal bronze]

You love this stuff huh?

[last cedar]

My 17th cousin, 432 times removed, that is Gerald

[crisp oriole]

Yes i hopelully fixed the bugs of my washing machine

[prisma briar]

If you run an empty load with bleach it'll clear bugs out

Run it with just water after or you'll bleach your clothes.

:P

[crisp oriole]

O yeah that will fix wrong messages on mastodon

[forest edge]

I did a timelapse of the pond and the damn thing moves too fast lol

so many critters I couldn't even see them all to count them

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/biHtksh1DEg?si=eJm8NuxtriBTB9Yu

[forest edge]

these dumb racoons were climbing this tree to lick my camera I think. I found smear marks all over it.

[static schooner]

I think that whenever a pet yawns, you're obligated to say 'big yawn!' (or language-equivalent expression)

It's just the rule, I don't make them

[weak musk]

^this is a fact.

[forest solstice]

We've limited the search pool to 4% of the desktop market within Siloam Springs. Hopefully this guy gets their phone back

[pure dove]

Hey All - I've been diving into the Open Source world and would love to chat with someone who has spent some time in the community for a while. Couple things I'm trying to understand better:

Why more sponsorship dollars don't flow into the ecosystem
Developer motivations
Possibility for full time / compensation

Would love to chat with anyone who has spent some time here!

[tidal bronze]

What brand? Lickable eh?

[last cedar]

Wait, dumb and raccoon in the same sentence?

😦

[young sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-washing-ice-gif-24939564

Exhibit A

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/smh-head-shaking-gif-14811723

[last cedar]

ROFL

[static schooner]

I initially heard it as 'a 5 year old's weed chocolate'

[iron granite]

It keeps the kids much quieter and chilled.

[shadow vector]

Because efficient market
Because how else will you do it
Very unlikely unless it’s for massive projects like red hat

[forest edge]

anyone excited to drop $1700+ on the new pixel 9 pro fold?

[clever mortar]

What no... Wait a few days?

[glacial knot]

I read the notes when they are posted here 😮

[clever mortar]

I read them during #beta

[glacial knot]

hm, looks like I need to fix my automatic updates though. I'm still on 7.4
I wanted to update to versions that are higher than 1 on the patch version automatically 🙂

[static schooner]

Sleepy kitty is sleepy

[tidal bronze]

I wanna lounge like that.

[ocean oar]

I too wish for noodle bones

[crisp oriole]

@last cedar

[red rock]

I mean, at this point I have seen anything that comes by so I just install because if something breaks I was probably the reason it did

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze👍 https://oregoncatalyst.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/meme1-gvnnwsmclfrnstcnmay24.jpg

[tidal bronze]

It's Wednesday dude. Happy stuff please

[forest edge]

this isn't happy?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR15JCCRNsglJ1jMCZIQE-FzE5Ouf1upKNYGQ&s

I liked that one

[tidal bronze]

Love that sign.

[tidal bronze]

https://worldwildschooling.com/poorest-states-in-the-us/ helping these out with our loving fleeing residents. 😆

[torpid hazel]

I have a Ring battery doorbell pro that suddenly disconnected from my brand new mesh router. My floodlight also disconnected. Neither will connect to wifi again. Ring sent me a replacement doorbell. This one won't connect to my wi-fi or even to my phone's hotspot.... I'm out of ideas. Anyone got any?

[tidal bronze]

Did you get a replacement mesh router?

[torpid hazel]

No

It's brand new and it doesn't have any issues with any other devices as far as I can tell

[tidal bronze]

Why ring? Why mesh?

[torpid hazel]

Does it matter?

Ring because my old house came with a doorbell so I bought the alarm and moved with it and got a new doorbell and now I'm just kind of locked into it at this point

Mesh because 2 story house with a basement so coverage in the whole house is nice

[tidal bronze]

It does. But then again I might not be the right person to address your issue specially if your inclined to ring. 😀

[torpid hazel]

I'd prefer something else, literally anything else, but I've already spent the money on it 😁😭

[tidal bronze]

Something else sounds rizz

[forest edge]

you know what they say, money dosen't equal happiness

[tidal bronze]

Money is everything

[forest edge]

if that were true you wouldn't have money cause you would be putting what you don't need to survive towards those who need it lol

least poor people have a good excuse

[tidal bronze]

Money that you don't need??? Are you sure you talking about money? 😆

[forest edge]

so you think having millions/billions in a bank is money you need?

[forest edge]

gee wonder where those 67k new people came from.. rotf

[tidal bronze]

Yep

[forest edge]

some people are saying california is fudging thier numbers.. that whole fake it and hope you make it thing

another thing rich people like to do.. lie through thier teeth lol

[tidal bronze]

Please refer to Steve about people talking about money.

[tidal bronze]

Art of the deal?

Sorry we don't fly like that.

[forest edge]

least we know one thing. when the world ends.. you got nowhere to go either lol

[tidal bronze]

That's not a criteria for money. Sorry.

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/vDWkCMOlILs?si=Qh7oMGbvASXqTZlq

[forest edge]

I think I have an extended family of racoons cruising one of my ponds lol

https://youtu.be/Pq_SzQgYe28

[static schooner]

Sounds like it's their pond now

[dusky plank]

youtube artifacts at 720p in this case is wild

[dusky plank]

https://i.redd.it/foytq27w2fmd1.jpeg

[real frigate]

That’s like a camera and a couple of sensors. Seems suss.

[dusky plank]

thats not even half a roborock

Knx people. Lol

[solar zealot]

A month right

Right?

[forest edge]

ugh convinced 25% of yt videos now are ai generated

[stable light]

Hello, where is the memes and shit posting channel?

I would like to make a funny joke. Thanks.

[forest edge]

any shit posting is to be made directly DM to @clever mortar. isn't that right?

[static schooner]

And tag him to your make sure he sees it

[forest edge]

tagging is crucial

[stable light]

I don't know, I used to be of the opinion that I don't need money and money bad when I was poor and in uni but after I went up the ladder and landed a very high paying job suddenly money was the best thing ever and I can't live without lots of money anymore.

For reference, I am a restaurant supervisor from South Sudan. I make around 300 USD a month.

[forest edge]

big difference between being poor to being wealthy. The middle area is the sweet spot in my opinion

our planets current state is proof enough that greed ruins everything lol

[stable light]

You are very poor. I step on you poor man.

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-spare-change-spare-some-change-begging-poor-gif-18999842

[vale crow]

Hey, apologies for replying to a very old message but did you ever figure this out?

[last cedar]

Next picture would be me getting rabies 🦝

Where the hell am I going to sleep?!

These fluffy wankers, omg

[crisp oriole]

They take our homes

[forest edge]

@last cedarand you wonder why we shoot first and turn into filament later. https://youtu.be/I5sZoUhc49w?si=DDzrNcMNleAQv18n

[crisp oriole]

Well i think a big cat would have helped in this situation

[forest edge]

there was a cat on the video

but no, having a pet get rabies is not the answer

[crisp oriole]

Roger

https://github.com/Bram-diederik/apache-HA-access updated my project to ipv6 and some other fearures

[tidal bronze]

@clear ferry you around?

[forest edge]

he drowned in his sea of zigbee devices during the move

[glacial knot]

oh, did he finally buy a new place?

[clear ferry]

Yes queen

[clear ferry]

I bought it in February, took over in June and selling my old house now

[glacial knot]

nice

[clear ferry]

n 🧊

[glacial knot]

Lice 🐛

[forest edge]

snapping turtles are so prehistoric

[tidal bronze]

Oh the love 😆 still good with vmware?

[clear ferry]

I'm a vcap-dcv still yes

[glacial knot]

is that some type of life support?

[forest edge]

iron lung

[tidal bronze]

So Dr, ESXI, one VM will not restart or rather stuck in restart loop. Tried CLI everything but the hammer. Thoughts?

[clear ferry]

That has little to do with esxi, but what vm is it? Should be possible to troubleshoot in single user mode

[tidal bronze]

Ubuntu

Basically, can't kill anything associated with that VM

Thought of asking before rebooting the host.

[clear ferry]

Won't help anything tbh, need to check some logs inside the VM

[tidal bronze]

Copy. Don't have much time to diagnose. Hate to reboot the host while in a flight, but here goes. 😆

Thank you

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/laptop-smoking-fire-burning-lag-gif-19373925

[night siren]

[tidal bronze]

Host reboot worked. lessons learned:

1. Don't share the HA host with other VMs
2. Wireguard should run on its own
3. It's not life and death. 🤣 It's ok for some temp and door sensors to be in unavailable state.

[clear ferry]

You mean, don't run ha in a vm, run wireguard on the router, and always have a failover host

[tidal bronze]

Hmm not really. No fail over is going to fix zigbee USB sticks.

[clear ferry]

That's why you do poe coordinator

[tidal bronze]

I do have that too. But quick fix. Replace few zigbee crap with zwave this week.

[clear ferry]

Condolences

[tidal bronze]

To you.

For the amount of sensors and years not a single ZW controller or sensor failure. Thank you.

[clear ferry]

I've had 2x zigbee device failures in 7 years, both hue, out of 250 or so sensors and devices, had one coordinator fall, but booting up with another one is a 15m hassle

[tidal bronze]

Not long enough sample duration 😆

[clear ferry]

[glacial knot]

yea, only fails I get is Aqara stuff running out of battery D:

[clear ferry]

And that takes 3-4 years

Or more

[last cedar]

IMPOSTER

[last cedar]

You have no idea how badly I wanted a hug

My tummy was making the rumblies

That only hugs could satisfy

https://tenor.com/view/llamas-with-hats-tummy-rumbles-gif-13732455

[clear ferry]

Caaaaaaaaaaaarl

[solar zealot]

you gotta finish the meat raccoon first

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge thinking about you.

[prisma briar]

That kills people!

[forest edge]

did you take one look at that dish and think, Sonoma was right! This shit is gross!

[tidal bronze]

black sesame sool bang. nduja. gouda, pichuberry, thought your favorite

[forest edge]

are those even words

sounds like something you pulled from Harry Potter

[tidal bronze]

Hey now, this ain't middle earth

[forest edge]

No apparently you live at Hogswart

[tidal bronze]

Picture perfect right?

[forest edge]

didn't think you drove so slow

[tidal bronze]

BAC you know

Kinda a lost a dare to my wife 😆

[forest edge]

she dare you to relax your leg and not stiffin it out straight? lol

[tidal bronze]

Rather left side of the drink menu 🤣

[last cedar]

Made with orphan @forest edge meat

[dusky plank]

Dji neo is quite fun

[forest edge]

don't see much use in it

[neon hawk]

Mary Mary!

anyone Dutchies around using bueinradar?

[neon hawk]

looks like a nice little thing, not seen much of the review vids etc yet, been too busy this week

[solar zealot]

Surprisingly decent video

It seems a bit unstable but that's also not a great place to test it

[forest edge]

mind you that camera is here. #the-water-cooler message

damn racoons hanging off trees

[neon hawk]

yeah i flinched a bit looking at the vid - i wouldnt test it round that many ppl that close

i have done bridge shots like that myself but got up at 5am to do them

[red rock]

Yes

I had a stroke while reading that sentence

[neon hawk]

can i check something with your bueinradar detailed condition states?

are these all the conditions u see?

[red rock]

The options is a static list afaik

Why are they with - instead of underscore

[neon hawk]

well this is the thing - i made this clock 3 orso years ago in ESPHome and i mangled the output of the senors to give readable text

i am now doing an LVGL display and have animated weather icons etc and need to also now change the label texts to readable text so the condition =partly-rainy = Some Rain or something like that but i think I am missing some of the weather conditions in bueindradar

[forest edge]

There's no support for Home Assistant here - please look at the other channels for that. If you can't work out which is relevant, start in ⁠general.

[red rock]

The options list show all possible states

Anything outside of that list raises

[neon hawk]

ok thanks - I have asked another Dutchie and he sees the same as u - hmm maybe i should reinstall bueinradar - i tinkered with the code in the past maybe i broke it 😉

[dusky plank]

its a 138g drone and there was some wind, but yeah I think it shows that it constantly does some tilting in its possible path to see potential obstacles. you can see it distance itself from the railing at the end once it got it right

[forest edge]

it still 16 min flight time?

[dusky plank]

yes, and the prop guards let you fly around people easily, it doesn't even hurt my plants when flying inside

[forest edge]

friend linked the tear down video of it. least DJI dosen't look like your typical cheap chinese crap on the inside lol

neo is heavily geared toward content creators or the average joe who likes to take family video or something but beyond that I see no use for it

it is neat that it can be operated without anything, or even with just a phone and not even need the controller but can use one

shocked the avata 2 dosen't have some of those onboard flight modes

[dusky plank]

people were standing in the middle of the street with their mouths open when it followed through the city, priceless

[forest edge]

lol

then out of the corner of your eye you see that one person holding a baseball bat

[dusky plank]

whats amazing is that it also discerns people, i can't get it to switch to my partner when I hide behind them. it always follows my ugly head

[forest edge]

china has had a lot of practice with person recongition for cameras

[neon hawk]

https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/light/topics/flying-drones-close-people u need to look at the rules and laws - i have a A1 licence and had to study all of this

[dusky plank]

yes sure, I need to read them

linked article says:

As we described, you cannot normally fly a drone over people. An exception to this is if you fly with a privately built drone with a weight below 250 grams or a drone purchased on the market with a class identification label 0

so nothing for me to read

[neon hawk]

it has a camera on it

that changes everything

[dusky plank]

article says nothing about that

[neon hawk]

look up the rules for your country also - they can vary

[dusky plank]

there are no rules for camera drones below 250g

they are known as "toys" not drones

[neon hawk]

not when it has a camera

[dusky plank]

in your country maybe

[neon hawk]

where do u live Germany?

[forest edge]

lol 3rd world

[dusky plank]

austria

as said, there is no such rule which forbids flying that toy over people

[neon hawk]

ok, good luck with that

[dusky plank]

there are privacy concerns because of the camera, but no rules

no luck needed, my friends fly self built drones for years and had no trouble

[neon hawk]

u built the neo then?

[dusky plank]

that's just critical people seeing "rules" for these drones

there are practically none, you are a KAREN

https://tenor.com/view/karen-ok-smiles-gif-19664690

[forest edge]

the neo supports the fpv googles? wtf?

[dusky plank]

why tf everybody type google

[forest edge]

goggles

[neon hawk]

no i am a licenced pilot of many years experience pointing out flying around uninvolved people is dangerous and against the rules

[dusky plank]

yes, now let that be a lession for you

[forest edge]

least they made it backward compatiable with the controllers. something that urked me when looking these things up with dji

[dusky plank]

oh they are not compatible, only the O4 controllers are

so you can buy a mini 4k which got released a few months earlier and can't use any of that gear

[forest edge]

oh your right n2 and up

wtf

go and think maybe they did something cool just find out.. nope

[dusky plank]

thought about getting the goggles 3 but there's no solution yet to get a hdmi feed into that only the 2 and integra

so I can't use my other drones on that. it is what it is 😣

[forest edge]

maybe the us ban will spark some changes lol

@tidal bronze any subs with cameras at your little boat events? I can't find one under a couple of grand that allows you to use your phone to see the camera feed

i'd be kind of curious to use one if it were cheap enough in the ponds

[neon hawk]

dont u just love noob DJI owners - buy a 200 euro drone and think they are kings of the skies and know all the rules and laws - +GTFO

ppl like that bring the hobby into the bad light

[dusky plank]

are you drinking again?

don't drink and fly @neon hawk

[forest edge]

a few propellers broke if you ask me

[dusky plank]

Eh, Karen

[forest edge]

ugh reolink did timelapse for thier NVR so dumb

[dusky plank]

While i do believe that regulators need to adjust again with this one when kids fly them I also think a licensed pilot should know better

[solar zealot]

thats about planes not drones no?

[forest edge]

I learned they neuter your drones over there compared to ours

found that FCC mode thing and was like.. wtf is this lol

[solar zealot]

not that being licensed means anything

people eare allowed to drive cars and that doesnt work out

[dusky plank]

Drone operators really like to advertise themselves and their 107 license or whatever

Its like the arch linux type of thing

[solar zealot]

like the custom flashed 3d printer people

lol hehe

[neon hawk]

hu rhur hur OK buddy!

[dusky plank]

See how butthurt they are 😂

[forest edge]

just ignore it

[tidal bronze]

They are pricey. Didn't mess with many

[clear ferry]

Thought you might enjoy this blast from the past @low harness

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/majoras-mask-creepypasta-ben-drowned

[clear ferry]

Where did you find an actual picture of @dusky plank and why are you sharing it with us ?

[blissful zodiac]

I am now my own CA for Home Assistant.
Too bad I can't use it on my chromecasts.

[clear ferry]

Your certificate is valid for an IP address, y'all outside of best practice

Also, love watching plebs online

[solar zealot]

That's where the fun starts at atx

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-think-so-fun-for-me-assuming-chloe-trautman-siesta-key-gif-10202095

I'm doing my CISSP soon btw

[shadow vector]

Cissp was brutal it’s like they intentionally didn’t want to use real English

[red rock]

Burnt to a cissp

[crisp oriole]

Cis special person?

[clear ferry]

So just like any MS exam just with English instead of bullshit then

[forest edge]

ugh having to switch to firefox is gonna blow

[solar zealot]

They don't even have a decent profile switcher

It's just terrible

[prisma briar]

They have this which is alright

I just use shortcuts that add the command line flag for profiles though

[solar zealot]

ah so they use ai raccoon captchas

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/racoon-wave-gif-21873804

[forest edge]

Get a new cat?

[crude falcon]

Yeah of course if humans can't make it out how can bots

[static schooner]

I think the people at the shelter may have lied to me about the breed

[solar zealot]

The breed of cats are orange, business and striped

Did they repaint it?

[forest edge]

wanted main coon but got ewok instead huh

[shadow vector]

No it’s actually hard

[clear ferry]

Burn

[prisma briar]

hey I studied hard for my MCSA when I was 17 and I didn't even really study

[forest edge]

every damn night

these racoons won't stop licking this camera!

[prisma briar]

get a can of air and turn it upside down and spray it on it so it covers the camera in bitterant

though don't get it too cold

[static schooner]

raccoons like trash, so I wonder what they don't like

[prisma briar]

idk but canned air bitterant is nasty

used to get it on my hands before I got an air compressor and always had to make sure I washed my hands after

[desert cave]

I switched about a year ago and honestly it was really easy and has been stable since. I haven't run into any issues

[forest edge]

I ran firefox years ago but it will never compare to chrome

https://www.microcenter.com/product/669409/redragon-rock-paper-scissors-yay-keycaps

[desert cave]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[desert cave]

What can I say. I like the ability to block ads, and the days of being able to do that in chrome are numbered

[forest edge]

well there is still hope

just got to wait and see

[fathom sparrow]

I just switched back to firefox

after an 8 year chrome stint

[forest edge]

your hands shaking?

[fathom sparrow]

Na, just jumping the gun for adblock

it's a world of difference

ublock on firefox actually blocks things

[forest edge]

well that still works in chrome as of right now

[fathom sparrow]

it's still not the same, was quite surprised

[forest edge]

I like the intergration into other google stuff with chrome

prob what i am going to miss most

[fathom sparrow]

like what?

just curious

[forest edge]

accounts, sync, baked in casting to devices etc

[fathom sparrow]

oh accounts and sync work

firefox still uses chrome user as main user

can't speak for the casting crap

So it might not continously sync

[forest edge]

i'd have to see it to see if it's as smooth as chrome

[fathom sparrow]

I'm just fed up with google

[forest edge]

lol yea well that happens every x amount of years since the begining

[fathom sparrow]

not boycotting them, but this adblock bs is the final straw

[low harness]

Good. I've been needing a new phone. My 11 is starting to fall aparat

Aaaaand iPhone 15 it is

[desert cave]

accounts and sync work great. I was surprised how much that had improved, too. I don't know about tab casting. I'll see how difficult that is to get working

and definitely use the browser that works for you.. no judgement on sticking with Chrome ^^

[prisma briar]

I still use chrome for some things that FF doesn't do

one of my cameras records in h.265, ff doesn't do that. I generally start esphome flashes with WebSerial, ff doesn't do that

But I moved to FF for almost everything

[tidal bronze]

Is it going to be Siri intelligent?

[forest edge]

@tidal bronzebought a bag of sand today, was instantly curious if it came from your yard

[static schooner]

It's how we spread California values. It's insidious

let us know if/when you suddenly have an urge to go surfing

or to eat avocado toast

[forest edge]

so suicidal tendencies is what you are saying

[desert cave]

As a Californian, I can confirm this

[forest edge]

knew i should have just stuck with crushed rock and left out the sand

[tidal bronze]

Don't complain when your trees start to bare fruit after centuries

[forest edge]

No Noni trees around here.

[tidal bronze]

Lost a tire sidewall, now 4 new tires. Sucks. Never seen TPMS readings zero out that quick. 🤣 Me like run flats

[rapid osprey]

You still have your blue ridge mini splits in home assistant?

[cunning onyx]

I sure do

[forest edge]

all 3mm of it blew out huh?

[tidal bronze]

Run flats won't do that. Something metal must have hit the 3mm, gaping hole. Wife was driving on the freeway and said "hey tire pressure says zero" 🙂 I said let's go home and check 🙂

[forest edge]

just wrap a new rubber band around the rim and you'll be good to go

[static schooner]

fortunately, you can keep some spares in the glovebox

[tidal bronze]

All those tok ads for battery powered compressors, such a waste. We got rubber bands

@static schooner hot enough?

[static schooner]

frickin' ridiculous. I've had my AC running for like 3 months now

[tidal bronze]

Last day I guess.

[static schooner]

never had to do that since I moved here in 2007

If it's not the temp, it's the humidity keeping my windows closed. It was like 80F at 10:30 last night

[tidal bronze]

90 - 105 pretty crazy.

You got power cuts/loss too?

[static schooner]

nope

[cunning onyx]

Hit me up if you have questions, I'll be happy to answer when I'm around.

[static schooner]

only happened once for me

years ago

my lawn guy is out there now and I feel bad for him working in the sun

[tidal bronze]

hmmm

[static schooner]

he should come in the morning..

[tidal bronze]

My guys are out by 9:30AM

[static schooner]

looks about right. 85F here now

definitely going to improve:

[tidal bronze]

That's more like it.

Rob got his fan

[static schooner]

just blowing hot air around

[forest edge]

burn bastards burn!

[static schooner]

There are a lot of folks in the coastal region here that don't think they need AC. Those people are wrong

[forest edge]

Tonight at 11! Satan finally claims the souls of California

it has been shockingly nice here for being end aug/sept

[tidal bronze]

Nice? Lmao!!!!

[forest edge]

don't be jealous

[tidal bronze]

It's NEVER nice, sorry

Less shitty, yes. Nopes, never nice

[forest edge]

calm down, don't get your blood pressure up lol

[static schooner]

AC, no AC, AC, no AC, AC...

I think the solar production is down because it's so damn hot

[forest edge]

what temp do you try and keep your home at?

[static schooner]

80 upstairs unoccupied and 77 downstairs where I am

[forest edge]

oof you like it warm

[static schooner]

it's just the downstairs AC cycling

it's not so bad at 77 here in my office

[forest edge]

high humidity outside?

I would think low 80's outside with windows open would maintain those high 70 numbers

[static schooner]

59% now, same as inside. you might be right

[forest edge]

oh yea that humidity is gross

[static schooner]

lawn guy was mowing and blowing earlier, so didn't want to have the windows open

[tidal bronze]

2 ton?

[static schooner]

3

each unit is about 3kW

[tidal bronze]

14 seer?

[static schooner]

13 or 14

[tidal bronze]

Similar setup. I have 5, 4 and 2.5

76 with reversed ceiling fan is my preference.

[static schooner]

looks like 14

Most years I usually use it for only 2-3 weeks. This year has been crazy

[tidal bronze]

I don't even look at my consumption this year. NEM bank should take care of it though

[static schooner]

I usually count on accumulating over the summer, but that isn't happening this year. I don't think I'm going to like my true-up next May

[tidal bronze]

Most months I just owe the $12 connect fee. I tend to collect a lot in the bank.

[forest edge]

meanwhile in MO it's nice as hell

[tidal bronze]

nice like hell. Yepp

[forest edge]

no no humidity is way low

its nice nice

don't even know why google bothered to take satellite images in the 80's.. shit just looks like special needs art class project

@tidal bronzelooks like something you should watch. https://youtu.be/OEXJmNj6SPk?si=yfa7bww_sawWLXSs

[rapid osprey]

I have a blue ridge mini split and I wasn’t sure where to get started- did you just use midea stuff or did you reference a guide?

I don’t believe mine has any wifi - looks like I probably need esphome?

[tidal bronze]

Interesting but beyond anything I can do.

Fine tuning pool water level, that's something I can do.

[forest edge]

@static schoonerYou see the amztoy stuff coming out about it killing cats?

they used the litter robot font and even called it the litter robot.. insane

[static schooner]

no, no idea what you're talking about

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/xepC3-Ia9ho?si=PVNGd-6RFJdHg8ZL

so sad

[prisma briar]

Don't sell yourself short, you could be an uber driver

[ocean oar]

That's next up in my Youtube queue.

Have noticed the proliferation of cheap robot litterboxes of late. We have a Litter Robot (3)

[tidal bronze]

Somedays I really want to 🙂

[prisma briar]

I drove uber in 2015 for a couple months in between jobs, it was actually a pretty fun job

Saw a lot of odd characters

At the time there was a driver drought in my area so they were paying something like $22/hr guaranteed if you didn't get enough rides to make that rate that night.

[forest edge]

when I am ready to retire I thought about doing that but not for uber or lyft, we have a service here for the elderly which probably wouldn't irritate me as much as having to deal with young drunks

[cunning onyx]

I will have to dig up the link for you, I had some USB control devices fabricated by jlcpbc so they could connect to home assistant

[rapid osprey]

Thank you! If you find it that would be cool.

[cunning onyx]

https://github.com/dudanov/iot-uni-dongle

Be aware, my model had like "security USB ports" with little ridges so a normal usb wouldn't fit. I ended up just cutting that plastic off with some snips.

[prisma briar]

I only had two issue passengers the time I did it. One lady ended the trip then demanded I drive her another couple miles, another girl passed out drunk in my passenger seat and I had to deal with that

[forest edge]

that was precovid.. shit looks way diffrent out there now lol

[prisma briar]

The Midea A/Cs take the one on the right, you can open the sheath on a normal USB port and mod it to fit, that's what I did

[cunning onyx]

Thank you for the pic!

I basically did the same thing, but like, very very messy

[prisma briar]

I gently opened the metal part up at the seam on the back then it basically falls off and the plastic part can be accessed, then it can be gently bent back into place when done

[static schooner]

what kind of "security" is that?

[cunning onyx]

Same as all the other "security" bits

annoying, cost wasting, BS

[prisma briar]

They carry +5v and rx/tx serial, not USB. I think it's so you can't plug a normal USB device in that does who knows what.

[static schooner]

ah, so they're actually incompatible

still wires, but used differently

[prisma briar]

Probably lets them reuse almost all the USB tooling while being physically distinct

[cunning onyx]

I forgot about that part, it's been years since I've looked at these.

on the plus side, been working great for years!

[prisma briar]

Mine have been solid too. I got the PCBs made at jlcpcb.

[cunning onyx]

I have so stopped thinking about them, they just run with the automation and controls I have and do exactly what I want. The ideal outcome really, especially for the complex setup I have.

[cunning onyx]

Oh, these things work with ESPHome if you are not familiar, but the docs for the dongles should explain.

[rapid osprey]

Thank you! Did your mini split have a usb port? Supposedly mine supports the wifi module but it seems like it’s better to avoid that and use one of the esp ones you linked right ?

[rapid osprey]

Ah is that why the hole is so large? I can’t get up high enough to verify it’s a usb port 😂 was panicking

[prisma briar]

It's not exactly USB

A normal USB port won't fit without modification

[rapid osprey]

Debating just getting the wifi module for it

[prisma briar]

I have those too, wasn't a fan of them.

Their app was kind of jank and slow

[rapid osprey]

I see. I had stumbled across this first and was pondering it before searching here

https://github.com/georgezhao2010/midea_ac_lan

[prisma briar]

Nice

Never tried that one

[rapid osprey]

lol sounds like I should do the jclpcb thing. I would have to find someone to solder the connector though

[prisma briar]

Do you already have the wifi dongles? My system came with them

[rapid osprey]

I don’t. I have a BM12y19wm. I assume wm means wifi module but when I opened the case there’s nothing there

[prisma briar]

I have a MrCool system but it looks virtually identical

[dusky plank]

15 is fine, you get usbc and I've never seen a need for usb3 speeds yet (which only 15 pro has, I guess 16 now too)

its amazing how many people run around with iphone pro and have no idea what their phones are even capable of

"LOG? what is that? never heard of it!"

I also wonder what they thought when planning the presentation yesterday, "built from the ground up for Apple Intelligence" - "Apple Intelligence will not come this year" pretty much

not even soon if you don't speak eng/spa/smthelse

[real frigate]

I have a 15 pro max and I think I maybe use 20% of what it’s capable of. I will say that as a code editor on the run kind of device, it does REALLY well. But otherwise, yeah, I barely scratch the surface in terms of usage.

[last cedar]

The perfect snoot to vbe booping tbh

[tidal bronze]

No you need 16 action button.

[solar zealot]

prores recorders who enjoy copying their movie files over usb2

[forest edge]

@tidal bronzeI wouldn't expect anything less lol https://youtu.be/A39eeZsV0JU?si=grPwDJG4FRHYyzLt

[tidal bronze]

Added 20 more cities!

[forest edge]

cost and worth are two diffrent things lol

[tidal bronze]

Is it?

[forest edge]

of course

[tidal bronze]

Is worth investment friendly?

[forest edge]

worth is reality, cost is greed set

[tidal bronze]

I like greed, pays off all the time.

Worth is too emo

[forest edge]

it's all fun and games till your on the other side of the fence

[tidal bronze]

Hmmm, google maps, no dice in S Korea

[forest edge]

why would you want to see a bunch of starving people?

[tidal bronze]

Good question. I would prefer China but let's see.

[forest edge]

does the satellite even penetrate the smog covering china?

[tidal bronze]

Love China. Smog or not. Nothing beats that food.

[forest edge]

you know whats fun. rewatching the old chinese kung fu movies AFTER you learn about how crappy their building practices are

during those parts where they do damage to concrete pillars etc, your like.. oh yea.. that makes sense now

[tidal bronze]

I do, pinch myself when taking internal flights in China. Then again it's all Boeing, we are in good hands.

Browsing through all these AI travel planners, LMAO. What a trip.

[forest edge]

@tidal bronzefound some of your chinese quality products you make. https://vl.collab.inc/videos/560458

[dusky plank]

https://labs.watchtowr.com/we-spent-20-to-achieve-rce-and-accidentally-became-the-admins-of-mobi/

wtf they just break the internet

• many racoon images

[glacial knot]

"the Internet"

[dusky plank]

Thats a war crime

[solar zealot]

so what they just told people is that prices for new tlds are dropping to 20$

[forest edge]

@tidal bronzeI see you people are on fire yet again. you must really like the heat.

[tidal bronze]

Fire?

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/flames-raging-fire-fire-smoke-our-planet-gif-17110956