the-water-cooler

[forest edge]

I don't even trust wifi cameras anymore cause look how easy that shit was to jam now

[prisma briar]

They still need to be at your door for unlocking your door to be of any use

which could be done in 10 seconds with a bump key

If even that long

[forest edge]

well that depends on the lock

but you have two locks on the door

not just a deadbolt

[prisma briar]

I replaced my lower handle with one that only latches

[forest edge]

ah

well grade of deadbolt also matters

for kicking in strength

I've seen how easy lower grade deadbolts break

but 3 and higher are a little tougher

my barn door for example was kicked in once

[prisma briar]

if somebody was going to kick in my door they might as well just throw a rock through the 4'x4' ground level windows

[forest edge]

lol

well an opened door is slightly less obvious than a broken window

not as loud either to do

[prisma briar]

It's a normal Schlage deadbolt from what I could tell

With a mechanism bolted to it

https://www.schlage.com/en/home/smart-locks/connect-zwave.html one of these

[forest edge]

I would have one of those 4 point twist locks you see in movies but the woman would kill me

yea see i could never do that

[prisma briar]

I toyed with the idea of pairing a maglock with the state of the deadbolt for extra reinforcement

But decided that would have been potentially problematic if I ever lost access to my home network for some reason and the lock was down

[forest edge]

lol

some things just shouldn't be smart.. dumb still has it's place imo

when doors that open themselves and close become the standard then i'll switch cause of no choice but for now

[prisma briar]

Keeping things dumb because they need to be reliable is one thing but keeping a door lock dumb because of fear of hacks seems like it's ignoring the rather theatrical purpose these locks play to begin with.

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-star-trek-tos-arrive-entering-entrance-gif-16656931

[forest edge]

its still an unproven technology

how many years have they exsisted?

[prisma briar]

pretty sure electric door locks are quite old, and even if they aren't the components in them are.

[forest edge]

locks like that mag lock you were talking about, sure

battery powered shit, not so much so

[prisma briar]

https://www.locksmithledger.com/locks/article/10934067/the-evolution-of-pushbutton-locks 1980s it looks like

I'm fine trusting a 40 year old technology.

[forest edge]

why it take 40 years to catch on..

[prisma briar]

Also even if the mechanism breaks it's still a normal deadbolt that can be turned with a normal key

[prisma briar]

I remember businesses having these kinds of electric door locks 20+ years ago.

And i'd argue they still haven't taken off in residential because most people don't care

[forest edge]

I remember the push button pin things you would see on metal buisness doors

[ocean oar]

Ones that look like this have been common enough here in NZ as long as I can remember

[forest edge]

I remember those being hacked too

hacked in the sense people would get through them

[prisma briar]

hotels have had electric keycarded doors since before I was born

[forest edge]

those are still not safe either

safe

[prisma briar]

lol, 99% of door locks in America are probably not worth the metal they're casted from.

[forest edge]

well these days they are likely chinesium

when its been around for another decade or two i'll consider them

[prisma briar]

these things were everywhere 20+ years ago when I was a kid

[forest edge]

the ones i saw looked more simple with a verticle row of like 5 or 6 push buttons

[prisma briar]

And similar styles

[forest edge]

yea

like that

[prisma briar]

I've seen those too, those are mechanical

[winged obsidian]

Meanwhile, have any of you upgraded the strike plates on your doors?

[forest edge]

i have

my shit is metal for the third of the door in the middle

even my storm door has twist locks on the bottom and top lol

[prisma briar]

I put some 8" screws into the plate on mine when I swapped the locks out

It was held in with like 1/4" screws when I got it

[winged obsidian]

8”?

[forest edge]

someone would have to break the tempered glass on my storm door even before reaching my two locks on my normal door lol

[winged obsidian]

Storm door, lol

[forest edge]

midwest

[prisma briar]

Yea, they were some random screws I had

[forest edge]

we see rain

[prisma briar]

not sure where I got them

bigass 8" things with a tapered hex head

[winged obsidian]

Wouldn’t work on my front door. Sidelights.

[prisma briar]

I'm not sure I've ever locked my storm door, lol

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/locked-door-locking-the-door-gif-11393677

we mainly use the garage to enter and exit so the front door is always locked

[prisma briar]

There's a window the height of my door next to mine but it's about a foot away

[winged obsidian]

My side door is usually unlocked. Anyone can get in if they step around the dog shit.

I don’t have Great Danes anymore, so the poops aren’t as big as they used to be.

[prisma briar]

I never lock anything but my front door. There's no way into my back yard from the front and the rear of my back yard is an 8' tall fence on my side but about 15' above a steep hill on the other side.

A previous homeowner built a shed into the path between my house and the neighbors that should be there for back yard access

[forest edge]

sounds like a nightmare should you ever need to get equipment back there

[prisma briar]

Biggest thing I've moved back there is a 3 ton AC unit, it took two of us but we got it.

We put it on one of those automotive sleds for working on cars and wheeled it through my garage

[forest edge]

when i was a kid people use to leave thier doors unlocked. hell my parents left our front door unlocked except at night but these days I lock all the doors even when i am home

every exterior door i have is metal enforced and even the glass is strengthen lol

course some of that has to do with prices for that kind of stuff was cheaper back when i done it

back then 300k could get you a small mansion around here now a shit shack is 200k+

[prisma briar]

yea, house prices are stupid

I'm just glad I managed to get one before shameless investors bought them all up.

[forest edge]

I been seeing double couples looking at houses for sale, in fact a double couple just started renting one near me

must be how the newer generations moving into moving away from parents are able to afford to do so

[prisma briar]

I lived with 5 other people for a couple years to save up for my house

Easy to save up when your monthly bills are only $500.

If I hadn't of done that I'd still be renting and with current interest rates likely would be for some time still.

I got my house right before rates shot back up in 2022

Actually that's a lie, I would still have got a house it would have just been more rural.

It's disgusting how much I spent on rent that I'm never going to see again

[forest edge]

lol

last time I rented anything it was only 600 a month

[prisma briar]

It's slightly annoying how much nicer of a house I could have if I went to somewhere rural compared against how much I'm generally not fond of rural living.

[prisma briar]

When there were six of us in a house we had a 2600 sq ft house and it was $2400/mo.

[forest edge]

renting was nice too, included electric, water and even cable tv and internet was discounted lol

[prisma briar]

I've lived in apartments where internet was included but I never used it

[forest edge]

i lived on the third floor tho so f that

[prisma briar]

I always got my own connection

[forest edge]

I would have had to pay the repair costs of removing anything else

since the place was prewired for coax

[prisma briar]

the apartments I lived in provided centrally managed wifi

[forest edge]

although it wasn't like fiber was a thing then anyways

[prisma briar]

But also had coax drops in the units

[forest edge]

it even came with a panic button in the master bedroom

which I thought was odd

was this push button on a cable that came out of the wall

i wonder if that was some requirement by law or something

[prisma briar]

heh, I worked at a fast food place for a bit right out of school and one day somebody dropped a box while unloading a delivery and managed to catch the panic switch on the wall and rip it off/break it into multiple pieces. Had the local police show up with their guns drawn and demand to search the place.

[forest edge]

lol

i never pushed it to see what would happen

just know they called it a panic button when i moved in

[prisma briar]

your restaurant gets a $2000 fine is what happens in my experience

[forest edge]

yea but this was an apartment

it may have done nothing at all for all i know

false hope lol

[forest edge]

i don't get the first one at all

what am i missing?

[last cedar]

You need to provide videos!

[last cedar]

That is the new apprentice!

[forest edge]

oh i get it now lol

[forest edge]

this presence sensor in the garage fired off every time the cat laying on the floor moved slightly

I need to learn how to tune this thing lol

[dusky plank]

huh, comes in the news now. intel bad

[last cedar]

Feed it less food = less triggers

Feed it more food = more triggers

Oh wait, you meant the sensor

[orchid rose]

50-100% dying I saw someone claim, yikes

[real frigate]

That’s kinda what I was trying to warn you about. lol. But, IIRC, there is a still energy slider that you can adjust.

[forest edge]

too bad it can't discern between objects like body mass. be neat if a sensor aside from using camera recognition could tell if something was a pet vs human and seperate out the triggers accordingly

[real frigate]

That would be a game changer. What I do is put my sensors high enough to ignore my dogs. Mostly. There’s a couple where I just have to sort of live with it.

[weak musk]

I have to imagine we will get that eventually. The tech already exists elsewhere.

[spice mauve]

does anyone know this series?
i want to have an eddy at my place, the nearest to compare is amazon show 15 i guess

[forest edge]

anyone use a vibration sensor to simply tell if the furnace has kicked on or not?

not sure how sensitive those things are

[ocean oar]

What about a Shelly PM wired inline with the blower fan? (the non-switching one: https://www.shelly.com/en/products/shop/shelly-pm-mini-gen-3)

[static schooner]

My furnaces plug in to an outlet with a power monitoring plug

[forest edge]

not sure what the power draw of the blower is

I need find that out

[real frigate]

Huh… I never thought to do that. What kind of plugs are you using?

[forest edge]

it's hard wired tho so a shelly could work assuming it dosen't pop the shelly lol

[static schooner]

Just normal third reality plugs

They're gas, so just normal 120v

[forest edge]

not seen a furnace hooked up via plug

usually they are on thier own dedicated circuit hard wired

[static schooner]

Mine are on their own circuits, just via outlet

[forest edge]

my issue is, this is an older gas furnace and I have read that start peak amps can reach around 20 amps

wouldn't be able to use a shelly

I need to put a meter on it tho to find out tho

[static schooner]

You could use a clamp

[solar zealot]

20a startup seems kinda wild

[ocean oar]

That is certainly a big number 😄

[solar zealot]

it requires like two humans to count

[static schooner]

Many humans can count to 21

[weak musk]

I am immensely jealous of all these people that have furnaces that are so silent they need a sensor to tell them it’s on.

[forest edge]

this is a furace located at my moms i the workshop and it is anything but silent

but i can't hear it a mile away

confident a vibration sensor would trigger but what I wouldn't want is for shit like thunder to also trigger

ordered a zigbee clamp monitor from aliexpress.. i'm sure i'll see it sometime in 2027

[prisma briar]

Wire a voltage sensor up to the power-on contact on the furnace control board? When you see voltage between it and neutral it means the contact in the thermostat is closed and it's turned on.

For ensuring it's actually working i'd go with a thermostat

[forest edge]

I like the clamp route (assuming the reading is anywhere near accurate) because you can see if there is upward amount of draw over time to help determine is something should be looked at prior to failure

[prisma briar]

Yea but it wouldn't catch if the blower was on but the gas failed or something

mine still turns on the blower when turned on even if the pilot light is out

[forest edge]

Well the room has a temp sensor as well as gas detector so if the gas dosen't ignite and the furnace fills the room that will be detected already

I just want to know how often it kicks on, but a bonus benefit of logging the draw

this is just a gas heat furnce btw, no ac or anything

[prisma briar]

I have a clamp on mine, here's how it looks when I turn my blower on/off

Guessing the first took more current because it was the first time it'd been powered on in a few months

[forest edge]

yea thats the peak usage

then it settles out

what are you measuring that in?

[prisma briar]

watts

120v line voltage

[forest edge]

i'd convert it to amps

[prisma briar]

it's measured from the clamp in amps, this graph is that times the measured line voltage

but that's done in esphome and I don't think I have it sending amps to HA

[forest edge]

the bubble card set isn't too shaby.

use moms ha dashboard to play around with new dashboard cards since I never really use it lol

[prisma briar]

the float sensor in my dad's swamp cooler broke in the always-on position so he put a smart water valve on the line going to the swamp cooler and configured alexa of all things to turn it on/off at a regular interval.

[forest edge]

lol

[prisma briar]

Been trying to talk him into getting a proper setup but he insists on using this cloud-tied crap for semi-important stuff.

I don't think he can even turn on half the lights in his house if the internet goes out

He kept calling me for help on it too and I haven't touched an Alexa thing since playing with their API in like 2017.

[forest edge]

surprise he even messes with that type of smart stuff

they make dumb smart stuff that work just as good and don't have to deal with any of that other crap

[prisma briar]

Yea, he could've got one of those outlets that has on/off pegs on it

or water valves

[forest edge]

yea they make mechanical alternatives to all that crap

[prisma briar]

he could've just hired someone to replace the float valve in his swamp cooler, too

he wanted me to do it but he has the swamp cooler mounted 15' off the ground and built a carport under it so idk how to even get to the thing.

and I'm not going to hang off his roof to do it

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-kimichkis-monkey-kimi-monkey-konosadmaru-monkey-emmanem-monkey-gif-2099953869716891638

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/fEi5ST4ySAo?si=Gzf7NoG41iwrx939

[radiant moat]

Hello, can someone help me pick the best Synology NAS, not interested in it being able to transcode since I have Jellyfin on a different Proxmox server with a dedicated GPU.

It should have more than 4 bays, at least 8GB of ram since I’ll run some LXCs and maybe a few VMs. I’m thinking about the DS1522+

But is there a better model?

Also is it true that the upgradeable RAM, NUC card, and and the SSD for caching is proprietary and i’m only limited to the options that synology sells?

[steel crag]

https://nascompares.com/2020/04/06/synology-nas-memory-upgrade-guide-2020-edition/#Can_I_still_use_Unofficial3rd_Party_Memory_in_DSM_71

[prisma briar]

Note - This article has been updated to the 22023/2024 to factor in the new DSM

I always knew synology users were mental

[solar zealot]

you very much wont be able to run a few vms on it

the R1600 that ds1522+ comes with is noticable slower than the n100 we usually recommend for haos

[static schooner]

So here's the differential between my old Air and new Tempest on a 20ft pole:

Tie breaker Oregon Scientific under my pergola in shade: 75.9:

[forest edge]

I love how aliexpress sent me two emails right after I made a purchase where one is "ready to ship" then the second "order shipped" and then following day, today I get one that says "order confirmed"

83% humidity? gross

[static schooner]

It's pretty warm and humid

[forest edge]

I don't think our humidity even got that high except during a rain storm

[tidal bronze]

I also relocated and 10ft pole. 1 to 2 degrees higher.

I think I can live with that.

[static schooner]

Weird that mine is lower

[tidal bronze]

Mine is lower at night higher in direct sunlight.

Whatever the offset algorithm they are using with irridiance is not that great.

[static schooner]

Mine is in direct sunlight 🤷

South facing

[tidal bronze]

I might get another sensor just to compare in shade.

Under 2 degree offset, I don't know how much I will push 😀

[static schooner]

Might still be learning

Just passed a dude a Costco with a giant surfboard in his cart. Welcome to San Diego

[ocean oar]

Lol, costco really do sell everything

The one-stop shop for 20lb of chicken wings, new tyres for your car, and a coffin

[true herald]

Evening peeps. Glad to find a discord channel with other people running this glorious, awesome, frustrating piece of technology

[static schooner]

Costco?

[spiral jungle]

Seeking someone to creat a yaml file that to read modbus register

I have a generator controller and I have the modbus registers , I need to use a esp32 with tll to 458 to communicate with home assistant

[thorny heron]

https://newsletter.openhomefoundation.org/open-home-approval-factor/

Good read! Thanks for this 👌

Home Approval Factor

I love it, I always hated the Wife one.

[dusky plank]

bro my home is closed, not open

[thorny heron]

Open your heart, Open your home.

[dusky plank]

no, y'all stay away

[thorny heron]

https://tenor.com/view/frodo-keep-your-secrets-alright-then-lotr-gif-12907121

[prisma briar]

Anyone here using an AI plugin with vscode? Been using Continue, curious what others' experiences are.

Continue + Mixtral Instruct is the best I've found for local models and Continue + Claude is the only thing I've tried for online models but it works well.

[forest edge]

what does that do? auto write the code for you?

[real frigate]

TBH, Copilot has been pretty solid for me.

[real frigate]

It can or it can provide hints and boilerplates to speed up dev work.

[prisma briar]

They more of write a first draft of code for you in my experience

Sometimes it nails it but generally I have to read through it to pick out bugs

Or ask it to bugcheck itself 5 times

[forest edge]

so you guys are beta testing the software that will replace coders? lol

lol coders working to finalize what will replace them

[prisma briar]

Eh, current AI has shown no level of truly understanding the world to the point required to make complex decisions like a lot of programming and maintenance require.

it'll get there probably but idk when and I'm not worried about it being tomorrow

[prisma briar]

I haven't tried copilot. I got approved for local models only at work for now

Well, a couple months ago but I'm trying again since the tooling seems better

I tried Claude for personal stuff and was impressed by what it did but not how much credit I burned through.

[real frigate]

So far, Copilot has been good at suggesting and then getting out of the way which is what I really want.

Like, give me a suggestion or a boilerplate and then let me do the rest.

[prisma briar]

I was playing with stuff like telling Claude to reimplement a function I'd written to use avx, it took some back and forth but eventually worked.

I told it to convert it to x86_64 asm too, it did but in the assembly it needlessly converted ints to floats, added them, then converted them back to ints

also took a lot of back and forth to even get there

[forest edge]

wonder if insects will trigger the presence sensor. I can't really tell if it requires both the pir and the mmwave before it registers an event or not

[static schooner]

what about stealth airplanes?

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/flying-fast-jet-plane-top-gun-gif-15818264

[static schooner]

Don't build a half-assed solution, man. Consider all the corner cases

Speaking of wannabe stealth vehicles, I'm sad to say that I saw a cybertruck in the driveway of one of the houses in my neighborhood yesterday. It might be the same one that was taking up two spaces at the nearby supermarket last month

It's quite gigantic

[forest edge]

wut

they are not

[acoustic gulch]

https://www.amazon.com/Phillips-Somneo-Sleep-Wake-Up-Light/dp/B076HZZ2P3/ref=sr_1_6?crid=38CTPUPRDB3BI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.SpqLaPSgbELiUrEXIb3Ffg0iG2EwpetEhA1fABXDn6dWjxqLZlWTo5pE-a9s-zmwRiPxa3xryAw2hypkMBClk7Cnn5NYL9zjCUb2nITD6jumpbJR5RquSg_XF-u4XK8BvZepooKvQytOHqf_9iszmhHf9Y9CjmGNfZ8fSkLscnyi1Dn4Ij5LmImFHvtPaCPtmUHp5kk99cR6oZzxEjoFA0_m5r_No_7CrXHH-LV2Lpw.UCm0jKucAb9TG-pPcsclsfoNEDkWBE4Dtb-2AgEBGIE&dib_tag=se&keywords=philips+hue+alarm+clock&qid=1721677046&sprefix=hue+alarm%2Caps%2C172&sr=8-6
strange design

[forest edge]

someone picks thier kid from school across the way. thing was just an inflated el camino

[forest edge]

that hole is disturbing

[acoustic gulch]

Imagine it glowing in the dark ....

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/yb5FSglSgXw?si=tu7aLYSvFD5jHQRj

[static schooner]

So, a magic 8-ball app

[subtle pasture]

There might actually be something to it: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263194103_A_Study_of_Human_Perception_of_Intonation_in_Domestic_Cat_Meows

Humans can distinguish between some of their cat's vocalizations. An app might be able to as well, thought I doubt it'll be much better than the cat's own owner at the task.

[forest edge]

Dentist wanted me to sign something that gave them the right to charge $50 an hour for a missed appointment... Wtf

Have an emergency and get out of the hospital to some outrageous dentist bill cause you missed your cleaning.. no thanks

[prisma briar]

@clear ferry Know what the funky daughterboard on this prototype is called? Saw somebody asking about it elsewhere.

[ocean oar]

TBH I kinda wish the finished GPUs had that kinda functionality

[red rock]

M.2

[ocean oar]

Physical connector I think is the one used for Mini PCIe (looks too wide to be M.2).
Potentially the IC on that board could even just be something like an eDP to DP translator. I feel like I read somewhere that eDP was the "intermediate" output between the GPU and the PHYs that drive the displays these days.

[forest edge]

looks like an hdmi port, maybe some means of getting video out prior to processing.

the m2 slot is probably for caching my guess

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-shows-off-rtx-4060-ti-graphics-card-with-m-2-ssd-slot

[winged obsidian]

Your time is valuable. Your dentist’s time is invaluable

[forest edge]

What is even crazier is they start that $50 at your appointment time yet at no point do you ever get in and have anything actually done at that time. I spent an hour sitting in that chair just waiting to talk to the doctor even after waiting that 10-15 mins before they called me back.

f that, i did not sign that shit and told the lady behind the counter it was dumb

[young sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/purty-mouth-deliverance-smile-gif-16084688

[tidal bronze]

Vets are not flat rate?

[forest edge]

You would know more about that than I, don't you volunteer as a guinea pig at the shelter?

[forest edge]

I just realized I probably could have used frigate audio detector to tell when the furnace kicks on in that room

[radiant moat]

Hello, I'm trying to pick up parts to build a new Homelab, if some one is interested in helping please start a thread

[weak musk]

hi, are you doing the robot?

[clever mortar]

Are you a bot @sage thunder?

Because that's 100% bot behaviour

[weak musk]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-button-keyboard-press-the-ban-button-gif-16387934

[clever mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/final-countdown-countdown-europe-counting-music-video-gif-4789617

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-potato-realistic-gif-16847039136289569673

Say its name!

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/jump-scare-scare-mortel-gif-15605111

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/dgd-dance-gavin-dance-bless-this-mess-jon-mess-roomba-gif-20032408

[lucid atlas]

Google Coral lowering the energy bill

[weak musk]

any of you peeps play "Control"? I just started it over the weekend and while I am enjoying the story so far it's one of only a few games that has legitimately creeped me out when playing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_(video_game)

[forest edge]

keep that humidity low and it won't be a bad week

[static schooner]

this looks like an interesting product: https://www.amazon.com/Sure-Petcare-SureFlap-Selective-Automatic-Stress-Free/dp/B00O0UIPTY

I keep the food for my overweight cat on the floor where she gobbles it up and food for my normal cat up high where the big girl can't get to it. That works okay, but it's cool that that feeder reads the microchip

[cerulean karma]

It's nice, but at $190... yikes. I just hope I won't have to feed my cats different diets.

[static schooner]

yeah, plus it's not an automatic feeder, and I've gotten quite used to that

[weak musk]

saw a guy that did something similar for a pet door. Had time of day control, schedules per pet-- all diy but super clean.

[ocean oar]

I love the automatic feeder, but I think I'd love it less if the cats didn't know how to share

I only have to even look at it about once a week; wash the bowl and fill the hopper

[brave scarab]

I just watched this and can't actually tell if the guy is being serious about using it in his home. TLDR: he made a hardware HA control panel that looks like something from a 1980s nuclear plant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz87wOJSQm8

[lucid atlas]

Well, if that doesnt pass the spouse approval factor

You've got the wrong spouse

[brave scarab]

My favourite part was the row of 9 identical pushbuttons to turn lights on and off "...I may even label them someday" 🙂

[cerulean karma]

🙂 Yeah

I was considering buying a new feeder vs rolling my own a few months ago, then the guys at Xiaomi came out with the pet feeder 2, with a scale for dispensed food, looks sturdier. Still no cheap dessicant pouch, or camera, though 😦

[red rock]

41 portions

That sounds like a fat cat

[cerulean karma]

2 cats. One's 6.7kg the other almost 5...
And I'm sure the "Approximately 5 grams per portion" estimate they gave is bull*

I just never got the spare mood to open a spreadsheet and get a better estimate.

[ocean oar]

My PetKit one goes by volume, in 0.05 cup increments.
What annoys me immensely is the scale you input this is in fractions, not decimals.
It goes 1/20 1/10 3/20 1/5 1/4 3/10 7/20 2/5 9/20 1/2
I don't know where that gets fun, when you're trying to work out the sum of a series of small amounts through the day.

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-27161863

[static schooner]

Poor kitty

[forest edge]

https://youtube.com/shorts/8XTFi1t72xo?si=HU_tzt5qhA1Zz4k0

[shadow vector]

I think this implementation is super old school but in general, hard buttons >>>> UI buttons. It would be best to use a combo like select which light to action but use a rotary encoder or something for brightness or something like that. I am not a fan of these wall tablet setups in any case. In my experience they just go unused. You carry around the best way to control your house already

Thats why I am building my own home theater remote I am tired of using my phones virtual UI I made because I have to look at it. All the current remotes use their own control system that I have to reprogram

[primal vector]

Does anyone else have that feeling where they start hovering around the beta channel, then realize it's not till next week?

[true herald]

Evening peeps. I'm Tomas from the DFW, Texas. How's everyone tonight?

[red rock]

Hahahaha yep

[brazen fable]

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/big-tech/dog-like-robot-jams-home-networks-and-disables-devices-during-police-raids-dhs-develops-neo-robot-for-walking-denial-of-service-attacks

[young sigil]

Now there's an automation idea "activating the HVAC system to introduce chemicals into the environment and cause a fire or explosion to take place.”

That was a joke NSA, take me off your list.

[red rock]

Too late

[young sigil]

🥺

[brazen fable]

@young sigil they're countering me apparently

When my alarm goes off my speakers start uttering gibberish including "deploying gas"

[young sigil]

I wonder how they are controlling the robot if it is spamming so much EM?

[brazen fable]

I was thinking about that too

Probably a lesser used military frequency

Don't need much bandwidth

So if you jam everything from 500mhz to 7ghz that shit gives lots of room sub 500mhz and Jams 99.9 percent of all consumer wireless

Jokes on them I'll jam the jammer bahahah

[young sigil]

My Tesla coil would probably be a valid counter-counter measure.

[brazen fable]

Real talk though they're just doing it to disable most cameras

If someone is smart enough to rig up an hvac booby trap it's not going to be affected by wireless jamming

[young sigil]

Did you ever see the pictures of the guy who had strings from all his doors around the house leading to things that giggled in front of a motion sensing camera?

It was quite the contraption.

[crisp oriole]

My washing machine now got a blog https://setaggi.daft-cloud.nl

[prisma briar]

they already had things like this that were handheld, not sure why this is news

there's a lot of restrictions around when they can use them though

and tbh important stuff shouldn't be on rf

[winged obsidian]

Pretty sure they used that more than once in Star Trek TOS

[forest edge]

way too late.. https://youtu.be/spGIPcb2haw?si=4-joAAzjL8US7zsH

[steel crag]

https://tenor.com/view/freddy-got-fingered-sausage-gif-10960570

[regal trench]

So I’m we are doing some remote work and need a HIPAA compliant cloud storage that also offers free plans that isn’t “big tech”. All plans need HIPAA compliance. Needs lifetime option (possibly on stacksocial or xDepotes). Needs “glacier” support. Needs SFTP or FTP access. I’m open to thoughts

[real frigate]

Wait... you really want to trust HIPPA records to a cloud storage provider that isn't protected? That doesn't seem like a good idea at all.

At a minimum, HIPPA protected records should be with a cloud provider that has at least SOX compliance and/or ISO compliance.

[shadow vector]

Good luck

Just use s3 or be prepared for data loss

[shadow vector]

You can set up a storage gateway or whatever they call it now for sftp

[weak musk]

Having gone through this with a previous client— Good. Luck. Even if you get a provider that can meet the requirements of hippa you still need a 3rd party to independently certify that it’s actually been met. It’s a long costly process.

Gets way worse if there are further government restrictions to consider.

[prisma briar]

"HIPPA complaint cloud storage that offers free plans" sounds like a pipe dream

[real frigate]

A thousand lawyers just perked up their ears at that

[prisma briar]

You should be hiring somebody who is knowledgeable about this, not asking in random #the-water-cooler channels. This is something that can seriously impact people (you + your patients) if done wrong.

huh, TIL saying something is a pipe dream is basically an old way of calling somebody high on opium.

[dusky plank]

eh, I can provide a hosting solution very professional

host will be a rpi

your data will be stored on SD cards

trust me, its in good hands

[iron granite]

You forgot the quality mark "bro"

"trust me bro"

[halcyon totem]

anyone here use newpipe? I'm getting errors when playing vids, wondering if anyone else is experiencing this

[weak musk]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/07/alexa-had-no-profit-timeline-cost-amazon-25-billion-in-4-years/ wiiiild

[last cedar]

I made a friend today

It made itself a bed

[weak musk]

hedgy!!!

[halcyon totem]

damn imagine if they get rid of alexa lol

that would be crazy

[weak musk]

I mean, they sort of are by repeatedly slashing the team

[halcyon totem]

good thing I don't have any amazon products lol

wait that's not true

I have a kindle e-reader

[iron granite]

Sonic

[ocean oar]

The Kindle is about the only Amazon-branded product I want to own. But saying that, while it was basically the only game in town for the longest time, some of the alternatives have definitely caught up, if not surpassed it

If I was buying one today, would probably be a Boox Page: https://shop.boox.com/collections/all/products/page
Looks like a Kindle (Oasis), but runs Android; can have the Kindle app if you want, but also basically any other Android app

I'm happy to charge it a bit more often for that massive increase in functionality

[forest edge]

having hedgehog soup tonight huh?

[halcyon totem]

I have a 3rd gen paperwhite running koreader

I got it for free

it's not bad

If I had the cash I'd love to have a ReMarkable

[forest edge]

this is cool https://youtu.be/JamyZcnFaIM?si=zzPby0nHQZ4aJH-R

[ocean oar]

My partner had one, died and had to be replaced 3 times. Would probably buy another brand

[halcyon totem]

rip

not like I can afford it anyways lol

[prisma briar]

they called the chapter in their youtube video 'Sinking cars'

[forest edge]

heh nice catch

[last cedar]

I made an integration for it, so you can all track its movements in real time

Hedgy - the hedgehog tracker 1.2b

|| it also shows the location of the closest raccoon, at all times ||

[static schooner]

Raccoon Friend Finder

[bitter pawn]

@last cedar be like...

[solar zealot]

Hehe

[glacial knot]

Spent a full work day on 2 lines of code
Necessary because I didn't read docs when I originally wrote the function...

[prisma briar]

I spent two hours yesterday on an issue before I realized I missed calling my function in one code path.

[static schooner]

YOLO Coding

it's the most fun kind

[finite atlas]

yep, youtube is changing how videos are being delivered to clients and newpipe has to change its code to adapt, you'll have to wait for updates to the app

[tidal bronze]

You are too much

[last cedar]

Haha, it is far more than 99 problems

[restive vapor]

I did the most crazy integration test today

I let two of my app that uses Spotify api and asked for update with 1s delay

Then the same for home assistant

So if 1s delay is ok
I would not be getting rate limited like last time

[lost moth]

https://youtu.be/GP_5IYrju4c?si=YGhzV_75PInj4aYL

[lucid atlas]

I spent unreasonably long looking for the download option...

I might be fried in the brain, but why is just one of the two options available in the list view

[tidal bronze]

@static schooner what's a good reference temprature unit?

[static schooner]

you mean an accurate thermometer?

[tidal bronze]

Yes. Outdoor

I do have a few DSB18B20 outside.

Don't know if that's the right way to go about this

[static schooner]

I don't really pay attention to accuracy - I have 3: the new Tempest, the Weatherflow Air, and a cheap Oregon Scientific that connects to two other display units

[lucid atlas]

Sorry for kicking in the door mid conversation, but does "accurate temperature" really matter as long as all devices show roughly the same? 🙂

[static schooner]

the years-old Oregon Scientific reads about the same as the Weatherflow Air, so I figure that's probably the right value

a rough estimate tells me what type of clothing to wear, which is the only real metric that matters

[forest edge]

shoes or flip flops huh

[halcyon totem]

what do you guys use for calendar

I currently use gcal

[static schooner]

It's especially challenging now because it's really hot outside, but cold in my office. Need layers

[tidal bronze]

That's a pretty low standard 😅

[tidal bronze]

Shoes? Again, what century are you from?

[forest edge]

the one that doesn't concern themselves with .x of a degree apparently lol

speaking of temp. I noticed the aqara temps were off 10c. thats insane

[static schooner]

I'm a fan of collecting data that helps me make decisions and I wouldn't live my life any differently with a higher-precision outdoor temp

[forest edge]

I dunno, could be the diffrence between ripped jeans and not ripped jeans..

[static schooner]

refrigerator/freezer temps are more important, but I use multiple sensors there as a backup

tracking climate change is outside of my job reponsbilities

[tidal bronze]

I could care less about those.

Isn't it kinda sad that you gotta play a guessing game with a professional "temprature" measurement device

[static schooner]

I've had my compressor die on my fridge and knowing that ahead of time helped me move stuff that mattered elsewhere

[forest edge]

just how far off is your readings quad?

you know temps can range and change even within a few inches of one another right?

[static schooner]

I have a DSB18B20 on my chest freezer and it's pretty close to the analog one that I have hanging in there

you could get a thermocouple

[tidal bronze]

I dunno. I thought it's 2f. I guess not. For 339 I would expect a cats meow

[forest edge]

no way to calibrate?

[tidal bronze]

They rant about some BS algorithm they use.

So no

[forest edge]

ah

[solar zealot]

its pretty linear for the ds18b20

[forest edge]

is it reading more "feels like" than actual?

[solar zealot]

within reasonable temp ranges the offset is less than half a / one degree

[tidal bronze]

Lower than dsb at night higher than dsb in daytime.

[forest edge]

might be "feels like"

you paid extra for that heh

[tidal bronze]

Hmmm no i am reading actual temps not feel like

[forest edge]

there is a seperate feels like?

[static schooner]

yes

[forest edge]

ah

[solar zealot]

"feels like the meat is going bad"

like this?

[tidal bronze]

There's no feel like crap for LA 361 days a year

[static schooner]

'Feels like' a swamp

[tidal bronze]

I know its there but pointless for LA

[forest edge]

I played with that thermal comfoort intergration for awhile that uses maths to caculate the feels like etc

thing was a pain

[tidal bronze]

Feels like is from dew point

[forest edge]

by the time the number generated for feels like c was converted to f and then back to c so many times.. noway it was accurate

[tidal bronze]

Anyway, feelings are not my concern 😅

[forest edge]

1f is like 17.2c or some crap

stupid celsius

[tidal bronze]

Passing middle earth and I still can access the interwebs
Phew!

[forest edge]

t far away fr a missle lck

yay o key

stupid razer

[tidal bronze]

Keyboard no likey?

[forest edge]

ongoing issue

no rhyme or reason to which key or when it decides to do it either

prob some angry coders payback to the company baked in

[tidal bronze]

Middle earth and humidity

[forest edge]

you should stick your head out the window.. only 44%

[tidal bronze]

No thanks, I usually hold my nose when passing middle earth.

[forest edge]

afraid fresh air will do you some good

smog or bust

[tidal bronze]

I can't stand places with no love

[forest edge]

aren't you in for a treat after the election lol

[tidal bronze]

Taking a month off to work the phones and knock on doors.

Going to be busy

[forest edge]

knock on doors?

you selling vacuums again?

[tidal bronze]

Bubba gone to TX. Lmao.

[forest edge]

gotta go where the real money is

[tidal bronze]

We as in CA make or break you. Better believe it.

[forest edge]

not anymore

time to get with the times

[tidal bronze]

Move HQ but workers are here. So CA labor rules apply all day.

What a ding dong

This is true comedy

[forest edge]

maybe with this exodus you guys can finally fix your damn grid lol

[tidal bronze]

Anyways it's too complicated for Mr Farm Doors. So what's for dinner in addition to mash and gravy?

[forest edge]

nothing cmplicated about it, your state caught the cooties and everyone is runnin lol

[tidal bronze]

Ok Mr. Trillion Dollar man

Let me send you some half baked TX pops to suck on fo ya.

Are the lights on there?

[forest edge]

why wouldn't they be? we don't suffer california woes here

[static schooner]

only in the Power and LIght district

[tidal bronze]

So you don't know TX grid. Figures.

[static schooner]

it's whale oil everywhere else

[forest edge]

we actually aid texas when they have power outs lol

crazy that we do that from this far north

[tidal bronze]

You? You can't even help yourselves lmao.

[forest edge]

you sound confused

[tidal bronze]

Help how? Hay bales?

[forest edge]

you experiencing a little biden over there? lmao

we send power and evergy here sends workers

[tidal bronze]

Lmao. You got jokes this Thursday

Go on make me laugh. You got more?

[solar zealot]

so which part is the better murica

[forest edge]

Montana

[tidal bronze]

Most dependent on my money ?

[forest edge]

are they?

they got some awesome farms up there

I don't much like how taxes are handled but the view.. wow

[tidal bronze]

Numbers boo, Numbers!

[forest edge]

Minnesota works just as good lol

[solar zealot]

nm just because its actually mexico? does that even count

[tidal bronze]

Did you restart HA yet?

[solar zealot]

thats a weird state no

[tidal bronze]

No,! Yeah!?

[forest edge]

@tidal bronzeplane wheels still attached?

[tidal bronze]

Yes with the spinners.

[forest edge]

thats good..unless.. we moved from wheels to something more.. exciting..

[halcyon totem]

huh florida is surprising to me

whoops wrong @

[forest edge]

drug money

[tidal bronze]

Wife wants me to stay home for a month. 😜

This is going to be interesting

[forest edge]

did you tell her, not with loaded weapons in the house?

[tidal bronze]

Lmao. She says "for a change"

I just might and drive her nuts.

[forest edge]

so what you are saying is, be ready for more quad in discord as a means of escape

escape for her, not you

your gonna end up buying more amazon shit. you watch

[tidal bronze]

Lol no. I want to redo my herbs

Take out tomatoes completely

[forest edge]

that dosen't take a month lol

[shadow vector]

whats your herblore level

[tidal bronze]

0

Just thyme for steak.

[shadow vector]

better start druidic ritual then

[tidal bronze]

Ok!?

[static schooner]

the only herbs are the ones the cow may have eaten 🙂

[shadow vector]

I take it you dont play runescape

[forest edge]

https://squaregear.net/fonts/tiny.html

lol 4 pixels high

could make some serious space saving dashboards using that

[tidal bronze]

Don't play, period! 😅

[solar zealot]

calling this a font is quite a disgrace

[tidal bronze]

Who's from CO?

[forest edge]

netham is, ender t maybe

[forest edge]

yea but in a pinch

[tidal bronze]

Oh yes. Sadly middle earth SAT wifi demons have also moved to CO 😥

[forest edge]

evolution

[tidal bronze]

Psh

[forest edge]

ugh, i may have to move my HA from the rpi4 to the server

[tidal bronze]

Finally

[forest edge]

debating using a dashboard in kiosk to replace my current camera viewer

because it would allow me to do more customization

wait nm, there isn't a true live view card for the dashboard is there?

would not want to look at my cameras at 2fps lol

[tidal bronze]

Isn't it sad that logic is 5 to 6 years late for middle earth

[forest edge]

it's called holding onto quality while the guinea pigs play with the trash

[tidal bronze]

Uh huh

[forest edge]

you don't see self driving taxi's here yet for a reason lmao

[tidal bronze]

Sorry it's not meant for 2hp farm folk

Even if you had one, where on earth are you going to go? Danny's?

[forest edge]

think you mean Denny's

not even sure where one of those are anymre ll

mg this o key

[tidal bronze]

So how is that tuya mmwave doing in barn?

[forest edge]

i didn't put them there

they in my moms garage

so far it's actually working pretty well

[tidal bronze]

Oh

[forest edge]

the pir part of it will still trigger off big enough bugs

but I guess I could factor off duration since the mmwave is what determines the occupancy aspect

[tidal bronze]

1st amazon pressure sensor failed in 2 weeks.

Time to get $80 sensors.

Amazon reviews, valid sometimes 🤣

[forest edge]

@tidal bronzehttps://youtube.com/shorts/qPrIVd71FZ4?si=hOOM_h-MlqVbIFrN

I dare you!

[forest edge]

discord is really pushing that nitro extra hard lately it seems

[weak musk]

Did you get the full screen pop up yesterday too?

[prisma briar]

I did

[winged obsidian]

Yeah, I’m seeing a lot of nitro ads too. Bleh.

[red rock]

Cut them some slack, they've been providing a lot for free for a long long time

[glacial knot]

Yea, Like uber
And Netflix
And airbnb

Though I think discord isn't actually VC funded, even if they behave like it

[red rock]

That's not free

[lucid atlas]

Automation AI incoming

[prisma briar]

frigate found my neighbor's car

[static schooner]

That's clearly a dog and/or raccoon

[winged obsidian]

Wikipedia says 2020 revenues were $130 million, so not entirely VC. But based on layoffs, their expenses outpace revenues. They're struggling to figure out a business model, IMO. I'm skeptical that blasting a lot of nitro ads is going to fix that.

[glacial knot]

yea, but I don't think they went through VC funding rounds. Not entirely sure where they have their money from

[forest edge]

we are gonna end up having to deal with ads lol

every 10 or so messages an ad is gonna pop up in here for Hubitat

[solar zealot]

its just becoming skype

[static schooner]

their stated goal is to focus on gaming

and not just be a general chit-chat server

that's how you end up with people "playing VSCode" 🙂

nerds, obvs

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/nerds-mad-football-rage-gif-16650450

[winged obsidian]

16 rounds of it, actually. https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/discord

[subtle pasture]

Guilty as charged, honestly

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/gideon-nerdy-gif-nerdy-gideon-nerdy-pushes-up-glasses-pushes-up-glasses-gif-25914290

[glacial knot]

Huh
Well, then the clock is ticking even more

[prisma briar]

nice, finally got an access point that doesn't blow. https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/10267642885

wireguard over cell isn't faster than my wifi anymore, lol

[forest edge]

wifi 7?

[prisma briar]

No, just a good wifi 6 router

Ruckus R650

[forest edge]

so now the real question.. do you actually utilize that speed at all? lol

[glacial knot]

You don't use your gigabit+?

[prisma briar]

I'm after latency and stability more, doing realtime audio streaming and pairing it with undelayed video.

I got an open box one from a lot somebody broke up and sold on ebay

[ocean oar]

We're close to finished swapping out our Rx50 APs at work, almost the whole company is now running R770s

But I still like my R650 and H550 at home

Judging by the Rx10 only just losing support recently, should have 3-4 more years of updates

[prisma briar]

I was probably going to get another 650, it doesn't quite cover the whole of my house

Iot crap in the opposite corner doesn't connect

[glacial knot]

Yea, I might get a TP-Link EAP773 for fun and profit

[forest edge]

how much? curious since they are listed around 800 and up lmao

[prisma briar]

$200

[forest edge]

that is right at the line for me to actually fork out.. won't give you shit then lol

[prisma briar]

Ruckus 901-R650-WW00 Wireless Access Point

$209.95

Came out to $227 after tax

[forest edge]

it has the bt and zigbee right?

[prisma briar]

In the manual, I have no idea how to use them yet

I'm not sure I can from the firmware I'm on

[forest edge]

weird

[prisma briar]

There's an ap managed and a controller managed firmware, I went with the ap managed one

Looks like it's locked behind a license

[forest edge]

thats dumb

[ocean oar]

The IoT requires the controller (SmartZone) system, and a whole-ass separate VM called "vRIoT" to control it.
Also it's clearly designed for specific uses, so most of the supported stuff is wireless door locks / lighting. Probably great if you run a hotel.

[prisma briar]

https://support.ruckuswireless.com/documents/3956-ruckus-iot-1-8-2-0-mr-controller-configuration-guide/download

this is for the r750 but I imagine the r650 I have is similar

[ocean oar]

The Unleashed control software is a fork of the (old, and now discontinued) "ZoneDirector" series, designed to run on the APs

[prisma briar]

might be walled behind a registration, I was already logged in

ruckus likes their registration page

I was considering trying the controller but I'm not really sure what it'd get me

a lot of docs on this thing

looks like it mostly pairs with SmartThings

[forest edge]

should pair with anything, should act as a coordinator or the very least a router

[prisma briar]

yea but it pairs with their dongles/online service

Huh, it does LorRaWAN

oh, with the appropriate usb dongle

[forest edge]

that be cool

ah

[prisma briar]

yea this iot engine looks like it wants to half be an automation flow tool and half a smart things bridge

wouldn't even work with my z-wave door locks

Licensing: Unleashed: Comes with a perpetual license for an unlimited number of users and includes all features. Controller: Requires a license based on the number of APs and user count, with different feature sets available at various price points.

assuming mixtral isn't lying I'm not paying a license for a controller

[forest edge]

z wave is too pricey for the license for companies to really throw that in on a whim

still surprise zigbee doesn't come on more consumer routers/ap's

[prisma briar]

Ruckus One is a licensed (paid) AI-driven network assurance and business intelligence platform that enables you to easily manage your home Wi-Fi networks. Ruckus One is a cloud-only offering which can serve as your Wi-Fi access point controller in the cloud. It is licensed on a per-AP per year basis, with multi-year subscriptions available.

🤮

[forest edge]

unifi anyone

[prisma briar]

I imagine this is more expensive than anything unifi has

[forest edge]

i'm ok with my cheapo stuff

[prisma briar]

well I'm not going to use the paid AI cloud driven nonsense for a home setup

I might check it out if I was doing like an office building though

[ocean oar]

I mostly bought the Ruckus APs for their fancy antennas, because our house is shitty for WiFi signal

[prisma briar]

I'm streaming audio to esp32's and the unifi aps were having issues

[forest edge]

prob could have added more ap's for cheaper lol

[prisma briar]

There's tons of open box r650's on ebay for $200-300, that's not that crazy for APs.

[forest edge]

my wifi mesh has 3 noses but I use wired back haul for them

nodes

[prisma briar]

I had 4 when I was on Unifi

They're still on because one ruckus doesn't reach all my IoT crap but I'm going to eventually turn them all off

[forest edge]

I will say mixing brands dosen't always turn out so nice.. I think they do that shit intentional

[prisma briar]

I disabled the ssids on the unifi side I was running on the ruckus

This one ruckus beats any of the unifis in speed anywhere in the house, I'm missing coverage in one back corner of my back yard.

By a substantial amount, too

[forest edge]

was hitting like 61mbps on my phone using the 2.4

good ole mixed bringing me down

[prisma briar]

I was getting like 180 on 2.4

I have 26 2.4ghz clients connected and 3 5ghz

[forest edge]

I have a rpi b for a print server bringing me down

if i want speed i can switch to 5ghz

[prisma briar]

The interface on the Ruckus isn't bad. It's got everything I used in the unifi controller.

that's cool

[forest edge]

there you go, see if your tv is spying on you lol

there is a video where someone used wireshark to sniff what thier LG tv was sending.. was kind of disturbubing lol

[prisma briar]

https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/10267999958

Did some more tweaking to the wifi

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/10g-internet-inea-10gbps-surpised-gif-16064775

[prisma briar]

I could get service like that for like an additional $80/mo

I'm at 3gbps now

I just have nothing that would utilize 10Gbps

[dusky plank]

There‘s good iperf tools in app stores

[prisma briar]

I was using iperf in termux

to test from the ruckus interface

[dusky plank]

I like to test my 802.11r and these always come in handy

[prisma briar]

I wish I could get roaming to work on these esp32's without a decent blip in connectivity

lol, I just noticed this r650 has an rgb led on it cycling through colors

oh, wait, it's a reflection from a card in my deskop

lel

[tidal bronze]

Do they smell good?

[weak musk]

Ready to be jealous? Be jealous.

Fiber supposedly coming next year though.

[tidal bronze]

5g for me. Too lazy to turn on wifi

[weak musk]

That’s pretty good for real world 5G from what I’ve experienced!

[dusky plank]

Would be intersting to see a comparison of battery usage when downloading at the same speed with 5g or wifi

[tidal bronze]

Don't use wifi unless I am in a flight. Haven't noticed a difference

[shadow vector]

Long shot but has anyone explored Generac's wifi protocol? They are cloud only but the device has Wifi. I want to determine the feasibility of making a local only generac integration and API. They also gate keep configuring the device remotely with their paid cloud garbage. No reason why I can't send it commands locally. My worry is that its hard coded to send data and initiate a connection. It has no open ports, so it might be impossible.

[wraith pier]

Today's not my day. I just accidentally deleted my MagicMirror config, and in my haste to get the sd card out to try and restore it, I broke the SD card in half.

[red rock]

I can be confident, that you lost all your config

[red rock]

What's a generax

[subtle pasture]

Not 5G, but still a WISP:

[wraith pier]

The irony of it is that I actually had it versioned in git, but somehow never got around to setting up even a local remote...

Which would have not done me any good at all after I wheedlerized the SD card

[subtle pasture]

Still weird to me that a wireless ISP is offering better speeds than anyone else in the area. Comcast had a hard time believing me when I cancelled 🤷‍♀️

[wraith pier]

Try living in a remote Swiss valley some day.

DSL@2kb/s

[subtle pasture]

oof

[wraith pier]

Wireless is at 15m/s

Ironically Starlink would not have worked at the time because of the hillsides surrounding the place

[subtle pasture]

Starlink barely works in most places, from what I hear

[wraith pier]

Hm. I can't comment from personal experience, but the few users I know are full of praise.

And at the rate they are squirting satellites to orbit, it's bound to improve all the time.

[subtle pasture]

I know three people who've tried Starlink. Only one kept it, and they only use it as a secondary ISP for when Comcast is having an outage <_<

[wraith pier]

Anyhow, I've got 200kb/s DSL where I live now, so that's an academic question for me.

[subtle pasture]

I suppose if DSL is the alternative, Starlink would be an improvement

Bandwidth-wise, at least. DSL tends to still have some of the best latency around.

[wraith pier]

I don't do much gaming, so latency is not an issue for me. The only issue I have is some lag in video calls sometimes, but that's manageable.

[tidal bronze]

Pretty good numbers

Haven't checked my home speed in ages. 🙂

Even my lenovo is on built-in 5G and that's that.

[subtle pasture]

The 5G / LTE network around here is sad by comparison. 4 mbps down / 1 mbps up

[real frigate]

I wish I could get my full 2.5gb from my fiber, but I haven't invested in any 2.5gb/5gb switches yet.

[subtle pasture]

And that's with the phone synced at 5G to a local tower

[tidal bronze]

5g low band? or is it LTE masked

[subtle pasture]

It's actual 5G. My previous phone had the fake "5G that's actually LTE" thing going on.

[tidal bronze]

hmmm. 5g low would be around 13, probably not many bands available

Provider?

[subtle pasture]

AT&T

[tidal bronze]

Ohhhhhhh

that explains that. I would be happy with 4 🙂

[subtle pasture]

I've seen as high as 40 mbps over 5G if I walk outside the house and into the yard. lol

But yeah, as soon as I'm inside, speeds are like 3 to 5 mbps

[tidal bronze]

So you must be locking to single band and low throuput at that.

[subtle pasture]

WiFi calling is basically mandatory to actually make a phone call while indoors

[tidal bronze]

Wifi or VoNR?

if you have 5g it would be VoNR

[subtle pasture]

What would the 5G radio have to do with WiFi calling?

[tidal bronze]

🙂

Wifi calling is pretty old. Carriers now prefer VoNR

[subtle pasture]

Right, and VoNR would be used when making a call over 5G...

WiFi calling kicks in when there's no service

[tidal bronze]

VoNR takes priority if available, wifi then LTE

I don't know how ATT handles it

So you must have manually set to wifi preferred

[subtle pasture]

There's no setting for that

WiFi calling is either allowed or it isn't

[tidal bronze]

Hmmm

[subtle pasture]

It looks like AT&T didn't start deploying VoNR in the field until late 2023, so it's possible my local tower doesn't even support VoNR. lol

[tidal bronze]

Most likely

HD+ voice is much better on VoNR than Wifi

[subtle pasture]

This is it for WiFi calling settings

It's either on or off 🤷‍♀️

[tidal bronze]

I don't like wifi calling specially with AP handoffs. Call merge swaps holds all go south

[subtle pasture]

Yeah, well, my only other option is missing calls and texts because the signal is so poor here

WiFi at least makes things reliable

[tidal bronze]

Makes sense. Although SMS should come through even if you don't have data

[forest edge]

there is nothing wrong with that. 99% of people wouldn't even utilize all of that

sure steam games would dl faster etc but in general

[subtle pasture]

SMS should, but MMS doesn't, and even short texts seem to always come through as MMS these days

[winged obsidian]

Comcast reps comprehension of basically everything is poor.

[subtle pasture]

And SMS would still require some kind of cell connection, which often isn't available indoors, so even SMS winds up using WiFi

[winged obsidian]

My WiFi ends up 5G anyway. Dumped Comcast in favor of AT&T Air. Lower bandwidth, but sufficient for 4K streams.

[tidal bronze]

I agree.

I am wondering how many devices would be too many devices. Kinda sad when you find devices that are plugged in and not used in months 🙂

[forest edge]

trying to understand magic.. how funny

[tidal bronze]

Something like that.

I guess not everything needs to be HA controlled. lol. Well too late now.

Just noticed that I have a package called fragrance_control.yaml

[forest edge]

lol you automatically spiritizing cologne into the air?

[tidal bronze]

I am trying to figure it out now. Why not air_freshner_control.yaml. Now I know why, side effects of having zwave wall outlets 🤣

[winged obsidian]

Reminds me of HA auto-discovering my toothbrush. I’d forgotten it even had Bluetooth.

[forest edge]

LA air get a little pungent from time to time?

[winged obsidian]

So far, haven’t had much need to run my toothbrush remotely

[tidal bronze]

I get those bursh replacemnt alerts. Don't like it.

[winged obsidian]

Yeah, I’ll pass on subscribing to toothbrushes

[forest edge]

some of those toothbrushes will only allow you to change modes with an app

[tidal bronze]

Scanning the automations......actually it's pretty cool.

[forest edge]

so dumb

[winged obsidian]

I need two modes: “on” and “off”

[forest edge]

don't use the tongue cleaning mode?

[tidal bronze]

@winged obsidian Sonicare Prestige?

[winged obsidian]

Oral B

[winged obsidian]

You clean your tongue and still talk like that?

[forest edge]

cleaning your tongue is what allows you to talk like that

[tidal bronze]

Or wheatgrass, turmeric and ginger shot.

[forest edge]

you are confusing flossing with tongue care

[tidal bronze]

SLZB-06M slowly making me a believer

[forest edge]

in what?

[tidal bronze]

zigbee

[forest edge]

not so much the coordinator as your mesh it seems to me

even after putting the slzb in I had to change the location of two of my routers for the mesh to stengthen

[tidal bronze]

I do have a conbee from years ago, still works but never relied on anything zigbee. SLZB-06M is another new mesh I am building just for giggles but liking it.

[forest edge]

it was crazy too, one of the devices had to be moved only 1 foot from it's previous location cause something in the wall was causing the issue

[tidal bronze]

Yep! Just went thhough that in the AM. 3' and dead

[shadow vector]

Generac, home generator company

[red rock]

A generator at home??

[tidal bronze]

Yes

[red rock]

that sounds aweful?

what kind of fuel

[tidal bronze]

NG

[forest edge]

I have this skyconnect dongle now and not sure what to do with it

[red rock]

NG?

[tidal bronze]

Natural Gas

[tidal bronze]

Does it matter?

[forest edge]

I had once considered putting it in the barn but the farm would be so much better canadiate for trying out lora if I could ever find a gateway and devices that didn't require cloud bs

[olive shoal]

me: "why are my commits always getting squashed"
my commits: https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/8bmXK7ksJohaukmuRSW3x5yTP-BcpTYag-oj5mH3m14/https/i.vgy.me/HHHVSv.png?format=webp&quality=lossless&width=802&height=702

[forest edge]

i mean I hate having stuff I don't use lol

[tidal bronze]

Welcome to the club

[forest edge]

yea but you have an option.. to send it to me so it does get used.. you just won't take me up on it lol

[shadow vector]

Yeah natural gas. Never have to worry about a power outage again

[tidal bronze]

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Generac-26-000-Watt-Dual-Fuel-Air-Cooled-Whole-House-Home-Standby-Generator-Smart-Home-Monitoring-200-AMP-Transfer-Switch-7291/320593390

[shadow vector]

It’s all automatic and hands off I just want to be able to monitor it without cloud garbage

[forest edge]

when I move out to the farm one of those NG whole home generators will be a must

[tidal bronze]

Mailing takes effort.

[forest edge]

power outages out there are too damn often during winter lol

[shadow vector]

Biggest issue is it doesn’t have any open ports. I can make a MITM proxy or use the existing rs232 thing but then I have to buy hardware and stuff.

[tidal bronze]

Power outages huh?

[forest edge]

yup

rural will be rural

no fiber, no coax.. closest thing to broadband I will get will be tmobile 5g lol

assuming that expands out that way by that time

right now locked at 4g

[tidal bronze]

DSL?

[forest edge]

looking back, I should have taken sprint on thier offer on building a cell tower on my property all those years ago

[shadow vector]

Theres a custom component for generac but it’s all cloud based. Worst case I can make an official integration with their cloud but we all know how that goes. I’m going to see if I can MITM it and write a simple proxy

[forest edge]

cause tmobile bought out all the sprint towers

[tidal bronze]

TMO home works?

[forest edge]

it would have been 5g

eventually

[tidal bronze]

I would love to invite you but.....

[forest edge]

rich people trying to make jokes?

[red rock]

I dont worry about that

[tidal bronze]

Jokes?

[tidal bronze]

You connected to a server farm?

[red rock]

I live in the Netherlands

So practically yes

[tidal bronze]

Oh. Then like GTS

[forest edge]

dude was walking through a Beverly Hills shopping center that almost looked like it was built like a donut so general traffic couldn't access shop fronts and the only means of accessing was through parking garages lol

https://youtu.be/C6qmiaicWEw?si=M3rocfxwb4UhV9BC

look at all that green and be jealous

[tidal bronze]

$429/sqft meh. Can't eat green

[forest edge]

and yes the barn at the end is what caught my eye lol

[tidal bronze]

This says the whole truth and nothing but the truth 🙂 You keep walking into stuff

[forest edge]

so what?

thats our economy

[tidal bronze]

LMAO

I can't explain numbers to you.

[forest edge]

I just saw a closet where the interior studs were exposed and had 0 furnishing, no kitchen, no bathroom.. just studs, pure layout for 23k on youtube

I mean

not sure what state that was being sold in but it's the point

[tidal bronze]

You buy things where it appreciates not this

[forest edge]

6mil for a mini mansion seems the norm now everywhere

hell the quoted me almost 1 mil for the small ranch I want to build out at my farm

I don't want no big house

it would be only be just slightly bigger than what I currently have and they quoted me 1mil lol

it's stupid

[tidal bronze]

Price is not the key point. 5/10 yr track and projection is what matters to me. Gains, gains, gains.

They are meant to be bought and sold, repeatedly. 🙂

[forest edge]

yea no, thats not me

talking about something I want to die in

could care less about gains

not like you can take it with you

[tidal bronze]

Of course not. Why would you?

[forest edge]

about to head to the farm, i'll snap some pics for you to drool over

[tidal bronze]

Please don't, the humidity and the pasty feeling will make me skip my lunch.

[forest edge]

it is 66% right now lol

at 85f

91f inside the barn

gonna be toasty

[tidal bronze]

71 and crisp. So nopes, no thank you. I don't want to feel uncomfortable.

But go enjoy your day 🙂

[last cedar]

How warm in your dumpster?

[forest edge]

almost took a picture of the bugs attacking my leg for you lol

[forest edge]

225c just as you would pass through the nozzle

[ocean oar]

100% local with the one I'm using. Gateway supports The Things Network - and their own service - but mine's just talking MQTT straight into HA.
https://www.milesight.com/iot/product/lorawan-gateway/ug65

[forest edge]

that looks expensive

think you showed me this before, don't think that is something I can even get easily here

[ocean oar]

Probably (USD) $300-400 for the gateway, sensors start in the $50 kind of range.

[forest edge]

I would build my own gateway but from what little i've read, finding devices that will work with it is not so easy

because of the frequency bs

and I guess those devices also require a handshake or something

I don't understand why something like that would have to be so complicated lol

I would use 433 but not sure my sdr could handle the heat in the barn

[prisma briar]

It'd probably be cheaper to run a raspi + zigbee module and send state updates over mqtt on lora from that than to buy individual lora sensors

If you had any number of sensors at least

[forest edge]

can't even find the temp specs for the nooelec nesdr mini lol

[tidal bronze]

Legs huh

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-joe-swanson-who-wears-short-shorts-short-shorts-legs-gif-4205015

[last cedar]

I will pack my fireproof pants

[static schooner]

raccoons don't wear pants!

[forest edge]

I think zigbee causes interference with first alert smoke detectors

[forest edge]

ok well apparently the first alert onelink is being discontinued.. that blows

[forest edge]

anyone use these? know wtf the diffrence is?
https://www.x-sense.com/products/x-sense-wireless-interconnected-smoke-alarm-xs01-wr

https://www.x-sense.com/products/sd19-w-wireless-interconnected-smoke-detector

nm

sealed battery is the diffrence

maybe

[winged obsidian]

I keep hoping for thread + matter versions, ideally with 10 year batteries, but so far no joy.

[forest edge]

yea zigbee in general in the US is pretty lack luster

they do z wave ones but zigbee is treated like the step child

[radiant moat]

Hello, i’m DIYing my NAS and I have a few questions about TrueNAS, please feel free to start a thread to answer, I’ll be thankful.

• Is it okay if the HDDs are 18TB?
• I only bought 3x 18TB HDDs, what are the requirements I must abide to if I want to add more HDDs in the future?
• I heard that ZFS keeps all HDDs running 24/7 which consumes power and emits more heat and noise than Unraid which only spina the disc you’ll use, is that correct and how severe is it?

[forest edge]

has anyone ever really needed anymore than a raid1?

[forest edge]

this stuff is scary to me when it comes to modren builders/contractors. https://youtu.be/u0ph2Kg0ak0?si=fOs-IxRwdvQ3hilw

[true herald]

Cheers peeps! Replaced to Hik Vision analog BNC cams w/power wire with Reolink POE cams

was a shit show

but they working now :D

[red rock]

LOL

[prisma briar]

He can get his wood replaced at most home improvement stores

[winged obsidian]

I too am scared for his grandkids

[glad osprey]

I have created a wordpress plugin for an EPG, this is on a dashboard in home assistant and i cast this to a Google home display. It allows me to switch channels in Kodi. Nice to see what's in TV without having to turn on the TV itself.

[last cedar]

Are you kink shaming me?

[last cedar]

If you care about your data, yes

[forest edge]

no one cares about data

https://tenor.com/view/tng-data-star-trek-laugh-laughing-hysterically-out-loud-gif-11511376

[last cedar]

Size is not really a problem.

The problem comes from rebuild times with "only 1 parity" disk.

Using 3 disks you would run what truenas called z1, so you would have just less than 36TB raw and a "parity disk".

If you run backups you should be fine, but the idea is an 18TB drive takes a long time to rebuild and there is an increasing chance of failure during a rebuild, the larger the disks are.

ZFS runs all disks, starting and stopping disks as say unraid does, also wears out disks. Depends how often you are accessing the data. I don't believe anyone has done an hours running vs start stop cycles for drive wear though.

I would personally grab another identical 18TB drive if you really want to run trunas, and run a Z2 (36TB raw and 2 parity disks) but it depends on what you are comfortable with.

My old setup is a 4x8TB in a Z1 and I am moving to a 6x12TB on a Z2.

[last cedar]

I use raid60 and 27 offsite backups for my raccoon memes

[tidal bronze]

27 is the perfect number.

[shadow vector]

yes a huge problem with raid is your second disk failing during rebuild which is common. Raid just sucks in many ways. I like unraid. Latest iteration of ZFS is also good. At least with unraid if I ever had a catasrophic issue somehow, I could just pull the rest of my drives and read the data in whole, no problem. Only downside to unraid vs zfs is you don't have file level consistency but the vast majority of my data is.... hashed lets say... so thats not a concern

[forest edge]

@tidal bronzecome on man! lets go play outside!

[tidal bronze]

Raid is just fine. Replication to 2 more arrays is the key, 1 offsite. If you have to think and stress about backups then you are not backing up.

[finite atlas]

dont forget to drink enough hot coffee!

[tidal bronze]

Let's go. Time to take out your "beach shorts" and flops

[ocean oar]

I was quite impressed with how... usable... ZFS has gotten recently.
Have one of these JBODs: https://www.areca.com.tw/products/jbod-4038.html, attached to an MS01 with a SAS HBA stuffed up it.
Just runs stock Ubuntu, no special NAS OS or anything.
Had a disk failure last week, and it actually turned on the error LED on the JBOD (and an annoying screechy alarm) and everything, I guess if your enclosure supports SES it JustWorks™ now.

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/sa-sacompany-strut-board-shorts-face-shield-gif-15023888

[prisma briar]

I've lost any respect I had for Ubiquiti's APs after using this Ruckus.

It's so consistent. It's great.

[real frigate]

What issues did you have with the APs? Mine have been rock solid for years now.

[weak musk]

Which one of you knocked out my ISP 3 hours ago?!

[prisma briar]

They had issues for years on 5.x firmware for me, I had one that'd only link reliably at 100Mbps, I kept getting stutters on them where I'd get no data for 100ms+, the speed is not great compared to this Ruckus, the distance this gets is way better

random 100ms pauses in voice/audio are very noticeable

That was the main factor for me

I know I got an open-box one from a lot some guy broke up on ebay but it was the same price as two UniFI U6 Lite's and gets better coverage than the two U6 Lites did. I also had an AP AC Lite and an AP AC Pro I was using for IoT stuff

[prisma briar]

It also does zigbee and ble which I was going to try out but it looks pretty bad once I actually read up on it and it's not free

I'm not 100% sure if the Ruckus will repeat Zigbee messages across units over wired backhaul but I think that's the advantage they bring

but also expensive and geared towards hotels

[weak musk]

Going on 4.5h! Due to power loss at the “distribution center” which 🤔

[static schooner]

Raccoon doing the high wire act

[shadow vector]

Ruckus isn’t in the same price bracket I agree they are probably better but fwiw I run 6 APs and never had a failure. One of them has annoying capacitor whine after like 10 years

[tidal bronze]

Got side pockets huh. Not LA for sure. 😆

[forest edge]

silk not allow for pockets?

[tidal bronze]

That's from another planet or different depth. Lol

[forest edge]

do people in LA even bother wearing anything anymore?

https://tenor.com/view/viralhog-bikini-man-nude-dude-sexy-man-wtf-gif-12214748

[tidal bronze]

Hmm not LA again

Wrong color

[forest edge]

skin is wrong color?

careful now

[tidal bronze]

Lol. The shorts. Guy in the background looks perfectly fine.

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/shake-spin-jiggle-waggle-playing-gif-15956953

[forest edge]

you would be prefectly fine with everyone nude around you

[prisma briar]

oh they come with a side of guac too

[tidal bronze]

Perfectly fine. But not the wrong color or style.

[forest edge]

i'll remember that if I ever visit. sure your wife would appreciate the lack of clothing

[tidal bronze]

Can't wait to get home for EP7

[forest edge]

I read it got canceled

[tidal bronze]

Nopes

[tidal bronze]

You sure that's guac?

[weak musk]

And we’re back.

[winged obsidian]

Ducking Bruins?

[forest edge]

you watch it yet?

[weak musk]

Is the season 10 episodes? Or 9?

[static schooner]

IMDB sez 8

And Max said 2 episodes left including today's

[weak musk]

Sweet. Almost time to binge.

[tidal bronze]

Just damn!

Next Sunday. Vega got problems to solve

[forest edge]

every episode from here on out the dragons will look like this

https://tenor.com/view/sml-doofy-the-dragon-electrocuted-hair-dryer-electrocution-gif-23704632

[tidal bronze]

Nah

[forest edge]

be nice if they like showed the big big one next to that vega one

[static schooner]

Sounds like he's given up on SOIAF

Gotta get ahead of the TV shows again