the-water-cooler

[real frigate]

But yeah, I will be drinking a lot of water... Thinking about going up to Little Switzerland, NC this weekend... it's only going to be 87F up there!

[lone dagger]

You have at least 2 brain cells to rub together.

[real frigate]

She said presumably lol

[low harness]

Wow. IRL names? You're taking the server mom thing seriously.

[real frigate]

LOL it's not like my name is a secret or anything. But she only pulls that out when I say something to annoy her (which is often).

[low harness]

There was also calling Ludeeus Joakim earlier...

[real frigate]

And I missed it?!

Did he annoy her too? lol

[lone dagger]

I go between Franck and Frenck a lot, too.

[low harness]

And pretty much everyone says Paulus

[static schooner]

I remain secretive

[lone dagger]

There're people in the Xbox community who still call me Cyborg, lol.

[real frigate]

Wait… you’re new here, aren’t you? 🤣

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-fallon-transform-mustache-remove-tada-gif-9263695

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/pootietang-hot-gif-7559604

[orchid rose]

2AM and it's sunny outside, but it's all downhill from here sadly

[forest edge]

lol 2am and sunny outside.. glad I don't live that living nightmare

[orchid rose]

I'm telling you, you are missing out

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/insomnia-cant-sleep-wide-awake-gif-18049964

[winged obsidian]

64F here, a little cloudy, 29% humidity. Enjoying my beer with no water.

[real frigate]

2:00am and daylight? What fresh level of hell are you on sir???

[orchid rose]

Sunrise in 16 minutes apparently. You can always just close the curtains when you need some sleep

[real frigate]

Oooooohhhhh @lone dagger is gonna have words with you. lol

[winged obsidian]

Eh, it’s only 4.8% pilsner. Enough water in it

[real frigate]

It’s only 85F here right now. But supposed to be 97f by Tuesday. Fun time.

[orchid rose]

Now that's a nightmare and I can barely figure out what F is in C

[real frigate]

4.8%. Yeah, that’s tap water with some flavorings.

[winged obsidian]

75F tomorrow.

[real frigate]

Nobody likes you and your temps @winged obsidian 😉

[winged obsidian]

Deschutes King Crispy. They did OK with the flavors

[real frigate]

(Obvs kidding)

This is my current fave: https://woodenrobotbrewery.com/beer/good-morning-vietnam/

[forest edge]

33C here atm

it's the humidity tho.. 47% makes it as bad at it is

[orchid rose]

I would die

[real frigate]

The ONLY thing I miss about Phoenix was the low humidity.

[forest edge]

yea arizona is that good heat lol

[winged obsidian]

They look good. I will seek them next time I’m in Charlotte.

[real frigate]

lol good heat?! Ew. No.

[forest edge]

I don't mind warm days with low humidity at all

it's better than the opposite any day

[real frigate]

Pinky’s has it AND fantastic burgers too 😊

[orchid rose]

Can you do anything in that kind of heat?

[real frigate]

Wither and die. That’s pretty much it.

[winged obsidian]

Whenever I hear “it’s a dry heat,” my first thought is that’s how to make beef jerky.

[torpid grove]

they're calling it a "heat dome"?

[real frigate]

If you’ve ever seen some of the older women in Arizona, that’s pretty much what they are.

[orchid rose]

Once it goes a bit above 70F or 21C here I just start sweating like no tomorrow if I move a muscle. I can't understand how y'all cope

[real frigate]

Yeah, because it can’t just be “hot” anymore. No, now we need “heat domes”… I blame the younger generation.

[forest edge]

that was a bit harsh lol

[real frigate]

Which part? Withering and dying? lol

[forest edge]

no the old woman thing

[real frigate]

But I’m not wrong. lol

But yeah, I should have quantified with “a few” or “some”.

[torpid grove]

I suffer for a day or two and then cope

[forest edge]

i'll still take 100F with low humidity over 15F with high humidity any day of the week

was not built to live in siberia

[torpid grove]

hmm, maybe we should avoid using the oven the next few days if this is continuing for another week

[lone dagger]

Highly suggest that.

[torpid grove]

what about 100F with high humidity?

looks over to the oven that currently has potatoes cooking

[lone dagger]

We’re not even getting the heat dome but we’re warmer than normal for a few days.

[lone dagger]

We’re restricting ours to the air fryer.

[torpid grove]

my air fryer is the oven

[real frigate]

That’s my kitchen right now. I used the oven.

[torpid grove]

who has the heat dome?

i can't tell from the internet

[lone dagger]

Northeast.

[torpid grove]

The kid's making fondant potatoes

[lone dagger]

While Texas gets another storm or something. The Gulf is doing weird shit.

[forest edge]

hurricane slamming into mexico

[lone dagger]

Oh after their like month long heatwave. That’s nice of nature to throw water on it.

[forest edge]

er tropical storm.. whatever it is

[torpid grove]

i would love to slam a hurricane

[lone dagger]

The drink?

[torpid grove]

yeah

i was in NOLA a couple weeks back and had a few there

probably the heat just makes me think of them

i'm not sure if I'm in the dome or not, but it's hot here

[real frigate]

Next week is gonna be fun.

99F and it’s not even July.

[orchid rose]

Good lord... I assume you guys have air conditioning but still

[real frigate]

A/C and ceiling fans. Yeah, summer is super awesome.

[static schooner]

I'm pretty sure that we have the best weather:

[orchid rose]

Can you actually do anything outside in those temperatures or is my body just that weak that it seems unfathomable

[real frigate]

That’s a lot better than what we’re getting.

[orchid rose]

Where are you at Rob?

[static schooner]

San Diego

[real frigate]

Oh yeah. I’m only a few hours from the mountains, so there’s always that. But generally, we still do stuff outside.

[static schooner]

not too hot, not too cold, sunny

[orchid rose]

I thought that would be even hotter

[real frigate]

No variety. No seasons except “nice” lol

[static schooner]

I'm near the coast

go further inland and you start to see horses and oppressive heat as you head into teh desert

[real frigate]

I used to go the ESRI user conference every year in San Diego in July. Oh man that was awesome. Makes me sad I got out of GIS.

[static schooner]

The only annoying part of the year is May Gray and June Gloom (which we're just exiting)

[orchid rose]

Once it hits 30C here which was like twice a decade before climate change, I bring out a bucket of cold water to rest my feet in. I don't understand how your bodies adapt

[real frigate]

lol at least it’s not Florida. In Florida, hell is a real place most of the year.

[orchid rose]

I can take it if I'm just chilling out at the beach or something, but that's so boring. But if you move a muscle your body immediately overheats

[real frigate]

I’m not that bad… yet. But I’m going to retire to the arctic circle if this climate change keeps going the way it is.

[orchid rose]

Cycling is the absolute worst... The wind keeps you chill while you cycle but once you stop the reality sets in

[real frigate]

That’s me when I have my convertible top down and I hit traffic. That’s the same as cycling, right? 🤣

[orchid rose]

Close enough for an American I suppose

[static schooner]

Like Forest Gump, you just don't stop cycling

First, you gotta build some Snowpiercer-like bike

[orchid rose]

I've never watched that movie. Something for my to-watch list

[torpid grove]

i love cycling. and sometimes I miss my convertible

or more accurately, the convertible I drove for a bit before I got the less cool one I had

[real frigate]

lol it’s well known how much I love my convertible. I don’t think I can own a hard top again at this point.

[torpid grove]

if I'd known I was about to get divorced, I would have bought a cheap truck instead of a convertible.

so there was a bit of resentment towards the sebring

[real frigate]

I have no words about that. 🤣

[torpid grove]

I also had no words, only sharing

[winged obsidian]

Tomorrow is Cajun Blacktop Catfish with Very Dirty Rice

[real frigate]

In a mailbox?

[tidal bronze]

I hate you

Get over it. Put your hair down and enjoy

[real frigate]

Wait… you’re complaining about weather?!?!?! lol

[tidal bronze]

Yes it's low 80s

[real frigate]

Omg. How are you surviving?

[static schooner]

Poolside, no doubt

[real frigate]

Probably with wine and cookies again.

[tidal bronze]

It's ok. Raw Mango Salad. makes everything better.

[real frigate]

I like everything but the mango in there.

[static schooner]

One mango salad, hold the mango...

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/hair-adam-flip-hair-flip-cute-gif-16974880

https://youtube.com/shorts/N_MNi-KLtBg?si=U6IuurBDsWYj-JE8

[clear ferry]

it isn't wrong

[forest edge]

oh I don't doubt they actually think that

[wanton mantle]

don't say some things aren't true XD

[glacial knot]

as if they knew liters

[forest edge]

well aliens do only visit the important countries so I guess there is that

[real frigate]

Drive from LA to NY... soooo, Cannonball Run? Yes please!

[forest edge]

https://y.yarn.co/0d7b8cfe-ee37-41f5-9dfa-2eebecda42f7_text.gif

[dusky plank]

how do you spell frigate?
is it fry-gate or freegate?

[static schooner]

frigate 🙂

[glacial knot]

🚢

[dusky plank]

Explosion ship

[static schooner]

It's pronounced 'dog'

[real frigate]

Sometimes 'cat' too

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/k8xFbWLUDoQ?si=VswPk_5s5v-vjpkF

[static schooner]

In English, frigate is typically pronounced fri-gut, which a soft 'I', as in 'fix'

[forest edge]

sure it's not gat?

[static schooner]

It's subtle

[forest edge]

only ever heard it pronounced with an at not a ut

[static schooner]

As in cat?

[forest edge]

yea

[static schooner]

That doesn't sound right at all

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+pronounce+frigate&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS690US690&oq=how+to+pronounce+frigate+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyCggAEEUYFhgeGDkyBwgBEAAYgAQyCAgCEAAYFhgeMgoIAxAAGA8YFhgeMg0IBBAAGIYDGIAEGIoFMg0IBRAAGIYDGIAEGIoFMgcIBhAhGKABMgcIBxAhGKABMgcICBAhGKABMgcICRAhGKAB0gEINzIwNmowajeoAhmwAgHiAwQYASBf&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

[glacial knot]

yea, it's git (the british one)

[static schooner]

They say 'fri-guht'

[forest edge]

yea still sounds more a than u

maybe the h?

[static schooner]

Not like cat at all

[forest edge]

thats right

I still hear the a clearly

[static schooner]

I could go with 'git'

[forest edge]

not cat but awt

certianly no u sound

to my ears anyways

[static schooner]

Got corncobs stuck in 'em?

[forest edge]

ought.. now the h makes sense lol

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge found your "TV dinner"

[static schooner]

lol

I wonder if grilling bud lite makes it drinkable?

[glacial knot]

some things get better by being fully evaporated

[static schooner]

Leaves behind only the Bud "essence", concentrated American beer

[torpid grove]

frig-it

[solar zealot]

Is that a single potato

[prisma briar]

Baked potato, steak, and a beer

Not the worst meal but hopefully you've got some seasoning to put on them

[real frigate]

That looks like end of the world rations.

[glacial knot]

Didn't bring enough food for the festival and had to pick up something at the camp site shop

[tidal bronze]

Nopes.

If it's not PtP or PtMP, outdoor wifi just sucks.

[winged obsidian]

A little snow on the trail

[forest edge]

did you stock up?

[tidal bronze]

I will have to be completely disabled before I pick that up.

[forest edge]

i'm sure if you tell any shrink what your diet is they will gladly mark you as such mentally lol

[tidal bronze]

Nathan's hot dog stand in the lounge. Good life !

[forest edge]

wait.. who was it in here who was cracking on NY's hotdogs?

[torpid grove]

everybody?

but at least they're not Miami's hotdogs

[tidal bronze]

Cracking?

Nothing comes close to hotdogs in Iceland but NY stuff ain't that bad.

[orchid rose]

Does anyone else keep accidentally clicking on the esphome server instead of this one since they changed their logo

[vagrant idol]

I love Miami's hotdogs

[weak musk]

I love walter's hot dogs https://www.waltershotdogs.com/mamaroneck

Place is excellent-- I've driven 3 hours out of my way to go here

[real frigate]

YES

[tidal bronze]

Never tried that.

[weak musk]

They've been around forever and well worth the trip.

Grew up going there

[tidal bronze]

Chipotle aioli and gluten free makes me wanna.

Just the dog. How progressive ❤️

[weak musk]

You gotta go to the mamaroneck location, it's a whole thing

people line up every day

[forest edge]

all hotdogs taste the same really

[weak musk]

and the move is hot dog with mustard only, standard fries, and a lemonade

[weak musk]

these are cooked on a flat top in butter

[tidal bronze]

He can't smell so pointless trying to explain the difference in taste 🤣

[forest edge]

in most cases you are comparing buns and condiments not the dog itself

[weak musk]

oh then I agree, everything tastes identical: https://soylent.com/

[tidal bronze]

Yep.

Sitting in a Boeing, pilot goes, "sorry for the extended delay, there was a hydraulic leak on the left landing gear, everything fixed, will be leaving shortly" oh how comforting 😢

[drowsy berry]

you're not boeing to make it

[weak musk]

They're out there with a caulk gun and some spray paint trying to make their fixes look like a weld

[static schooner]

you could be "stuck" on the space station while Boeing tries to figure out how to not have your return spacecraft fail catastrophically

[forest edge]

just watched a clip on the boeing ceo. 32 million a year paycheck lol

[static schooner]

maybe they need a caulk gun

[orchid rose]

Even by your standards this is a hot take

[weak musk]

Dude the guy's got minutes left to live and you want to talk to him about hotdogs?!

oh shit

[forest edge]

talking about plain hotdogs not brats

[weak musk]

Sonoma's and QF's profiles are merging in my mind

[solar zealot]

maybe they are the same people

[weak musk]

that would be hilarious honestly

[tidal bronze]

Easy now.

[static schooner]

that's gonna offend at least one person 🙂

[orchid rose]

We might be part of an experiment where someone is trying to convince a studio exec that a sitcom involving QF and Sonoma would be a good idea

[weak musk]

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107050/

[tidal bronze]

Come on now positive vibes and happy thoughts only. This hydraulic crap is bothering me 🤣

[weak musk]

How many cookies have you dunked in your wine?

[tidal bronze]

0 cookies so far but wine count is up there. Delayed flights always multiplies wine count.

[orchid rose]

Happy juhannus or midsommar to y'all btw

[forest edge]

don't they strap a parachute to all first class passengers? you should be fine

[static schooner]

that...was a weird movie

[tidal bronze]

How is that going to help with landing gear failure?

[forest edge]

placebo regardless

[weak musk]

Same way floatation devices will be helpful when flying over the continental US.

[forest edge]

did it ever cross your mind that maybe this is a sign to retire?

[tidal bronze]

Already. I would go nuts if I had to stay home.

[forest edge]

so get a decent VR headset and pretend

[weak musk]

oh so that's the metaverse

retirement simulator

[tidal bronze]

Too funny 🤣

Retirement simulator

Maybe I will stay home little more after 50. Let's see.

[forest edge]

what does your wife think of your fear of staying home? lol

[tidal bronze]

50/50. In a way it's a good to miss one another

[forest edge]

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-vector/woman-strangling-man-female-power-600nw-1083396239.jpg

[static schooner]

Plenty of time for each of you to plot the perfect murder...

[azure barn]

DUDE! Have any of y'all seen this?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/marton/unfolded-circle-remote-3

It passed it's goal of $200,000 in 8 MINUTES. It's now at almost $900,000. That's INSANE.
If anything, it shows how much of a void Logitech left in the consumer market when they killed Harmony.
People really do want good smart remotes.
I have a Logitech Harmony remote, and I can't wait to try this one out.

It also natively integrates with Home Assistant.

[ocean oar]

PoE dock???? 😍

[azure barn]

Yeah, I know, right?

They seem to have thought of everything!

[static schooner]

I've been living on the Remote 2 for the past several weeks exclusively and it's pretty good

[azure barn]

Plus the locally-hosted web UI for configuring is pretty cool

And privacy focused.

[static schooner]

they dropped the OLED screen from R2 and removed the colored hard buttons, which is not great

but I'm in line for R3 anyway

[orchid rose]

I paid 40€ for my Harmony iirc and it still works. As amazing as something like this is, 100€ for a remote is just a bit much

[azure barn]

To be fair, for a screen that is off 90% of the time, I don't really care which it is.

[static schooner]

when they remove hard buttons and push you to the screen, to simultaneously cheapen the screen is unfortunate

but yes, it's really not the focus of the remote

[azure barn]

Well, they did make the whole thing thinner, added wireless charging, made the button lights RGB, and added 5GHz wifi, so I don't think they are cheaping out...

[static schooner]

except on that part

[azure barn]

They also did add the slider

[ocean oar]

For something you're likely to be using in a dark room a lot of the time, agree the OLED would have been nice to keep

[azure barn]

Fair

[static schooner]

they made a big deal of it on R2 and then just kinda silently dropped it from the specs

[azure barn]

I guess that would have been nice. Maybe since they well surpased the goal, we could ask for OLED to come back...

[real frigate]

Anything is better than the SofaBaton.

[azure barn]

Oh dear lord YES.

[static schooner]

that just sounds like something that you beat an intruder with

[azure barn]

I bought one. Biggest mistake of my life.

[static schooner]

from your couch

[orchid rose]

None of those things are relevant when I look for a remote. Gimme a few buttons and some logic to control multiple devices and I'm happy

[real frigate]

The battery doesn’t last long enough to beat someone with it.

[azure barn]

How about full smart home control, and a dock with IR blasters/repeaters for controlling equipment in another room or in a cabinet?

[real frigate]

SAME

[azure barn]

The hardware is mostly fine (That SCROLL WHEEL 😡 ), but the software SUCKS.

[static schooner]

I have a good experience with R2 in part because there are either built-in integrations for the devices that I have or community-offered ones that I can run on my server to completely avoid IR control

[azure barn]

That's also pretty nice.

[real frigate]

Or the public, NON-AUTHENTICATED api endpoints to start/stop activities. lmao like WHY?!

[static schooner]

and if you don't like how they work, you can modify them

[azure barn]

I'm gonna have to figure some crazy stuff out for my Roku TV. I am using it with Ethernet, and blocking it's internet access (So I don't get ads. Like seriously, why are there ads WHEN I'M NOT SIGNED IN???), and for some reason, after about 2-4 weeks, it just dissapears from my network, and doesn't show back up until I unplug-replug the ethernet.

WoL doesn't help, as it's IP address is just GONE.

[orchid rose]

Can you give me a scenario where it would be useful? Mine is just mostly speakers connected to an amp. What equipment would require IR instead of WiFi/BT/ZB?

[azure barn]

I know, right?

[azure barn]

Well, then your setup wouldn't need that.

I have a TV, A Media Center PC with Emby/Kodi, an Onkyo 7.1 Surround system, a Wii U, and a 5x CD Changer. A smart remote is EXTREMELY useful for the Activities. You click one button, and it turns the TV on and sets it to PC, Turns on the Onkyo and sets it to PC, wakes up the PC and starts Kodi or Emby, depending on which activity I clicked, then sets all the remote buttons to their relevant controls for the PC, TV, and AV system.

The button layout adjusting for each Activity is AWESOME.

[tidal bronze]

You funny.

[static schooner]

it's a gift

[azure barn]

To be fair, could I just use a cheap universal remote? Maybe, depending on if it has IR codes for the HP MCE USB adapter I own.
But the activities are pretty cool, not to mention the time and energy I save by NOT having to fix the system every time my family wants to watch a movie.

[tidal bronze]

@azure barn you jamming a 5CD changer?

[azure barn]

My mom wanted to keep it.

We use it for listening to Audio Books mostly.

[orchid rose]

That sounds like an amazing setup, but you probably don't need IR for most of that. My equipment is quite dated as well so I run some IR stuff, but most people wouldn't need it

[azure barn]

Having a physical remote is also a MUST for me. I hate trying to control a TV or Media Center with a touchscreen.

[tidal bronze]

No matter what you have nothing comes close to a "remote"

[azure barn]

YES

[orchid rose]

I can totally get behind that

[tidal bronze]

If you have a phone or tablet while enjoying media, then you might as well be watching tok.

The disconnect is what matters

[azure barn]

Alot of Smart TVs and Smart TV Boxes (Google TV, Apple TV, Amazon Fire Cube, etc) have universal remotes built in now. So for most people, that works well enough.

That's actually how I ended up with my previous Logitech Harmony 900 remote, My uncle bought a Fire TV cube and no longer needed it.

[tidal bronze]

Using Harmony here.

[azure barn]

Yes, I was on the early bandwagon of trying to find a replacement. I have regretted it since. The SofaBaton X1(s) is a TERRIBLE remote. AVOID AT ALL COSTS.

I may honestly sell the X1 I have and use my old Harmony 900 until the UCR3 shipps in December.

[tidal bronze]

Nothing is even close to Harmony.

Not even URC

[weak musk]

Does the harmony only use Logitech servers for programming or is every button press sent through them?

And does anyone know when they are going offline?

[tidal bronze]

RF to IR is through hub. Programming, cloud.

[azure barn]

I have heard from several sources that UCR is passing logitech in capability. About the only thing they struggle with now is availability. Which the UCR3 is supposed to fix that!

[orchid rose]

It's unfathomable to me that Logitech just dropped Harmony. It may be niche, but you'd think there's enough of us

[tidal bronze]

No ETA, I will use it till the end. Love my Elites

[azure barn]

(UCR = Unfolded Circle Remote)

[tidal bronze]

Hopefully they end up being meaningful. So many have come with hype

[azure barn]

Unfortunately same for the old remotes.

😦

[tidal bronze]

I have no problem with cloud.

Whatever works best

[azure barn]

Me neither, untill they kill their servers one day, and stick us all in a bad spot.

I'm hoping Harmony eventually goes the way of the Squeezebox, and Logitech Open-Sources it.

[tidal bronze]

I will never have a problem with Harmony. I am so thankful to have used such a wonderful product and service.

[azure barn]

I have like 5 Squeezeboxes and I use them DAILY. All running from the same home server hosting HomeAssistant 🙂

[azure barn]

HECK YES.

[static schooner]

sounds like you drank a bunch of wine and joined some weirdo harmony cult 🙂

[azure barn]

???

[static schooner]

#the-water-cooler message

[azure barn]

Ah

lol

[tidal bronze]

True on the wine part. But credit is due where it's due. Good is good.

Lost wifi for 40 minutes and missed some tomatoes on my instacart order, so not that happy.

[weak musk]

You take off yet?

[static schooner]

I like that everything that I do with the R2 is instantly reflected on the remote

[azure barn]

I am kinda curious if anyone else here uses LMS + Squeezebox for home Audio?

[static schooner]

because you're literally configuring the remote directly

[azure barn]

This is what I cannot wait for

[tidal bronze]

About 1 hour ago.

[azure barn]

No more stupid "I can ony use a windows 7 laptop because harmony 900 is old" crap.

[static schooner]

good luck on that landing

might want to jump when touching down

[tidal bronze]

Dude. That's not nice

[static schooner]

lighten the load a bit

[tidal bronze]

Can't wait till Sunday. HoD finally 4K and ATMOS

Whoever did the dragon flying sound panning knows magic

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/im-doing-my-part-serious-stare-gif-11979677

[weak musk]

I’m so jaded after GoT I don’t know if I can start this show.

[tidal bronze]

You will be just fine.

S2 started with a bang

Quick recap 🤣 Vhagar, not!

[forest edge]

was balerion from got?

[tidal bronze]

Ramin Djawadi has done wonders on the score as well. Subtle but nice changes.

[forest edge]

ah it was the skull

[tidal bronze]

The skull in the red keep

[forest edge]

i was like i don't remember seeing that one lol

[tidal bronze]

200 years before I think

@forest edge getting close to middle earth

Kinda funny how gmaps tracks 519mph

[static schooner]

Stop off at the fair

[weak musk]

Plane is really jerking along, turbulence?

[tidal bronze]

I would stop if they had kale

[tidal bronze]

Shhhh

[static schooner]

Only deep fried wrapped in bacon

[tidal bronze]

Nopes I am going to find how to cook that @forest edge TV dinner.

[forest edge]

what do you mean close? I would have swore you would have considered illinois part of it lol

[forest edge]

had salisbury steak tonight. your favorite

[tidal bronze]

TV dinner again. Come on man. I know it's the boondocks but change it up a little, yeah?

[forest edge]

choices are limited when the woman is absent lol

[real frigate]

Were you forced to have that or did you forget to go grocery shopping again?

[tidal bronze]

I know. Learn how to cook.

[forest edge]

i did

salisbury steak. told you

[tidal bronze]

That does not make any sense. You don't know how to cook a proper meal?

[real frigate]

It could have been worse. It could have been Swanson Salisbury steak. (Please say it wasn’t that).

[forest edge]

not all of us are happy cutting bread shapes out of cardboard and slapping something unrecognizable on it and calling it food

[tidal bronze]

Yep it was that!?

[forest edge]

i don't remember what it was lol

[tidal bronze]

It was heat to eat Salisbury steak

The damn cow died in 1984

[forest edge]

it was substance. all that matters

[tidal bronze]

I will not understand middle earth, ever!!!!

[forest edge]

we know. you would be the first to go after an apocalypse lol

[tidal bronze]

After is ok.

I am trying to decipher this conundrum last night. Went out to dinner with buddies, no one remembers who paid for dinner. 🤣

[real frigate]

I mean, credit card receipts are available in apps now. 🤣

[tidal bronze]

I know. We don't have the apps installed.

[forest edge]

they just scan his forehead

[tidal bronze]

Just funny that no one remembers who actually took care of the tab

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/price-scanner-gif-21943842

[real frigate]

With the prices in California, just figure out who paid the same amount as a small mortgage and mystery solved.

[tidal bronze]

Last night was in NY

Same same

[real frigate]

Hahaha was gonna say that.

[tidal bronze]

Crispy calamari and chilli blue crab. So don't matter who paid. 🤣

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/squid-gif-20543090

[tidal bronze]

Cool socks!

[drowsy berry]

cleaned up my homelab tonight while watching the oilers dismantle the panthers

[forest edge]

not quite what I picture when I think of homelab

@tidal bronzeyou might actually lose your in-n-out due to wage increases

[drowsy berry]

it ain't much, but it's mine, and i'm proud of it

i think the most expensive thing in this image is the network switch actually

everything else was either freebies or already in use, or cables

the server? my old job was getting rid of a bunch and they let me have one
the printer? scooped from my late grandfather's storage unit when i was cleaning it out (reparations for him being a POS at the end of his life)

[ocean oar]

Free is the best kind of printer, certainly. Certainly wouldn't want to spend my actual money on one of those infernal devices

My "new" one was rescued from the e-waste pile at work. ~2012 vintage HP CP5225dn A3 colour laser (with network and automatic duplexer).

The only bad thing about it being a decade old is I would like an extra paper tray so I can have A3 and A4 loaded at the same time, but those are naturally long out of production and unobtainable

[drowsy berry]

id love to pick up a couple more of these 1L PCs and throw them into one of those 10" euro racks. it'd be more than enough for my needs going forward with a USB disk shelf on one

set up something with like DC power distribution to cut down on having a bunch of AC adapters in it

[torpid grove]

gross

[tidal bronze]

Never!

In N Out is all about love

Ahhh good to be home.

[drowsy berry]

what's gross about it? it's cheap and it works. some of us don't have thousands of dollars to drop on a dream setup

[torpid grove]

the usb disk shelf

the rest of it sounds fine

[drowsy berry]

i mean, as long as it's stable idrc
there's not a ton of ways to JBOD into one of these mini PCs and i really like the form factor

speed doesn't matter, im liable to be the only one using this infrastructure when it's fully built out

[torpid grove]

you don't have to have thousands to drop on a dream setup, you can build a cheap "nas killer" and pick up used enterprise drives on the cheap

usb is just not stable enough to rely on for that.

and DAS boxes are way more expensive

[drowsy berry]

ill end up taking whatever i end up finding that's a good deal when i've got money to spend, and that'll be the end of it however it shakes out

honestly if those radxa pi5 sata hats were in stock anywhere i'd do something like that

[ocean oar]

Yeah, cost me $1200 for the 12-bay version of this: https://www.areca.com.tw/products/jbod-4038.html
And then a SAS HBA, cables, etc. But rock solid, quiet, and 12 drives on one cable. Does the business.'

[drowsy berry]

$100/bay, damn
i think if i were to get a NAS appliance, something like a 4/5 bay home use one would be perfect

in an ideal world i'd do something with a jonsbo N2 or similar

[forest edge]

why there really is only one language lol
https://youtube.com/shorts/Kd0kp_VvW3g?si=np8zCveMQKfTuyhW

[ocean oar]

Used rackmount ones can be had for under half that. Tend to be loud bastards though

[drowsy berry]

i don't have the space to noise insulate against a full-rack affair

[forest edge]

lots of sbc that can handle nas duties perfectly fine while being silent

just make sure you get something with solid gigabit throughput. pi's while nice still choke lan throughput

don't even think the 5 is much above the 4 at 300/s

[drowsy berry]

exactly
im not a content creator or a small business, just a girl more than a little paranoid abt her data and the future of there being a usable internet

something i can dump a 1080p movie collection to and run an offline wikipedia clone is more than enough for me

[forest edge]

plenty of sbc's with older intel chips or even amd ones out there. like the zimablade which would allow like two drives without the need for additional hardware but have the capability to expand later would work just fine for that use case

[drowsy berry]

a zimablade would be cool, i'd just wonder about how i was going to control the power supply on a disk shelf attached to it

i get the feeling that two big drives would be more than enough for me anyway

just run that for storage-intensive services like jellyfin, kiwix, nextcloud, audiobookshelf, stuff like that

processing-heavy stuff goes into the optiplex

[glacial knot]

just have a separated storage and compute node 😮

hyperconvergent my 🍑

[ocean oar]

You could call it "hypoconverged" 😉

[drowsy berry]

i bought an eight-port switch and i'm gonna use all eight ports dammit! /lh

[glacial knot]

I have 2 8 port switches and am running out of ports o.0

And then there's atx...

[prisma briar]

I have two 24 ports, a 10, a 9, a 8, and 5 5's.

[glacial knot]

9 port? 🤔
8 + plus SFP? Are they all usable at the same time?

[prisma briar]

8 sfp+/1 1g, and yea

https://mikrotik.com/product/crs309_1g_8s_in

Or https://www.amazon.com/MikroTik-Desktop-Gigabit-Ethernet-CRS309-1G-8S/dp/B07NFXN4SS because Mikrotik can't keep their site up

[glacial knot]

500
SERVER ERROR

hey, they are just a networking provide. Can't expect them to do networky stuff

[prisma briar]

Oh wait, I have two 8 ports

I only have so much because I kept all my 1gb gear after upgrading to 10gb, half of it is in storage

[glacial knot]

finally getting around to play with my intended storage solution on my Odroid M1

[drowsy berry]

tbh i don't think ill ever need more than gigabit, maybe 2.5g at most

faster speeds and thus more expensive hardware is kinda a waste for a lot of folks

[prisma briar]

Yea I don't recommend it for normal home use

[glacial knot]

I kinda want 10G, but have no real incentive to spend the money 🤷

[forest edge]

sure there is.. just stop being local and go all cloud

[prisma briar]

The cluster and storage experience it gave me directly led to my current job so I'm fine with it.

I started with cheap-ass used server NICs directly wired to eachother with DAC cables and just set up routes to use the 10Gb card instead of the 1Gb cards that were also in the network

That was actually <$100

[forest edge]

then you stopped and asked yourself.. wtf am i doing?

[prisma briar]

Nah, I ran that setup for a year or so and it was fine

That was when I was learning Ceph

[glacial knot]

yea, I mostly replicate the cluster we run at work at home^^

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/rP6EHryp-Zg?si=XQD6U0Z4sBqY0gf5

that is crazy.. why would they pick that lot?

[glacial knot]

ceph just doesn't seem worth it to me. At least for home-labbing
Such a massively complex beast

[forest edge]

having a ford plant less than 2 mins from me I see ford rent parking lots all over to store vehicles and all of them were gated and have been since forever

[prisma briar]

Ceph's flexibility is second to none but it's slow af

[forest edge]

they would even install fences in open parking lots

[drowsy berry]

"disruptors" quickly finding out why certain practices are industry standard

its the same thing with cryptobros learning in real-time why banking regulations are necessary - the sort of thing they could have gotten from spending their kids' college money on getting them an education rather than blowing it all on chuck e cheese tokens

[clear ferry]

Ngl, it was a upgrade for the cybertruck

[prisma briar]

Are the tailgates elongates now?

[clear ferry]

Ho ho ho

Elongated muskrat

[umbral cliff]

You need money to have a proper lot to store cars

[forest edge]

the lot has nothing to do with it. here when ford rents a lot it's at various places not much diffrent than those teslas. however when they do that they setup free standing fences around the vehicles so the average joe can't just walk up

[umbral cliff]

Thats what I mean
You need money for those fences

[forest edge]

more inclined to think whoever tesla has that is in charge of that process just simply dosen't know wtf they were doing

[umbral cliff]

Given the cybertruck doesn't even have enough money to glue the panels on properly

I think a monkey would do better

[forest edge]

snarky comments aside it was a major drop of the ball. automotive manufactures have been leasing random lots for as long as I can remember. don't know how someone could lease one in an area that has a sidewalk next to it with no fence placement

[clear ferry]

I have never seen an automotive vendor who uses a non fenced lot

might be an american thing

[forest edge]

leaning more toward generation thing

[drowsy berry]

disruptors thinking they've found the secret to saving a buck on "production inefficiencies"

it's called due diligence and it's what happens when you cut corners (though in the cybertruck, leaving the corners too uncut has sort of been the problem 😂 )

[clear ferry]

but elon would never cut corners

cut back to my collegue who has had his model 3 on repair 28 times in 2 years

and it didn't even pass the year 4 MOT

[umbral cliff]

That’s impressive. Wouldn’t it still be in warranty too

[clear ferry]

it is

and he has gotten his warranty extended 3 years so far, from 5 to 8 years

[umbral cliff]

Wow

[clear ferry]

he's keeping it till it expires, then he's never getting a tesla again

the good thing about tesla, you get to try so many other cars when you get a rental

[ocean oar]

You'd think, but apparently when you've not even got your new cybertruck home, they tell you when it starts pissing battery coolant all over the ground it's not covered...
https://carbuzz.com/tesla-refuses-repair-cybertruck-leaking-coolant-later-backtracks/

[clear ferry]

L O L

what the actual fuck

[ocean oar]

So apparently the warranty isn't worth the paper it's written on

[umbral cliff]

Yeah big the cybertruck is in the USA
They don’t do consumer rights

Atx is in the land of Norway

[clear ferry]

I'm so glad I got into volvo 😄

[umbral cliff]

Whilst I know someone who had a model 3, and has just bought a brand new model 3 too
Have two teslas as family cars lol

[clear ferry]

7 year default warranty, currently on year 6 and I have been in the shop 2 times in 3 years, one for a squeaky roof cover and one for a break electronic sensor

[umbral cliff]

Yeah I’m glad I have a reputable company for my car

[umbral cliff]

Ignoring your regular service I’m guessing?

[clear ferry]

my daughters best friends dad has a model 3, he has replaced the heat pump 3 times in 3 years so far, plus a few times the headlights

[clear ferry]

yes, yearly since it is a hybrid, but nothing of note except break pads and discs

[umbral cliff]

If it’s a hybrid wouldn’t you also be doing engine oil, etc too? The fluids that exist in a standard engine that have a time based expiry too

[clear ferry]

yeah, that is standard anyway, both hybrid \ non hybrid change that on every service

the brakes are just the only extra I've had

[umbral cliff]

Yeah wasn’t sure exactly what you were changing lol

Seems pretty standard maintenance then

[clear ferry]

yeah, volvo has been very little stuff that hasn't been covered by warranty

compared to audi \ vw where they always had extras

[umbral cliff]

What extras?
Pretty sure my merc warranty is anything bar regular maintenance and wear/tear items (so tyres/brake pads/ etc)

[clear ferry]

"this fluid line here" , "yeah the sensor here seems bad" "oh you should probably replace this joint"

oh right, he replaced multiple joints on the volvo already during regular service, because that is also included in the warranty

[umbral cliff]

Yeah all that would be warranty for my merc

[clear ferry]

not so much for vw in my experience

[umbral cliff]

Ouch

[clear ferry]

and probably not for tesla in the US

had a previous collegue who had the first gen tesla model s, he replaced the engine twice, tesla told him not to tell anyone, but he told everyone

NDA is some weird american bullshit

[umbral cliff]

They make sense for businesses protecting internal stuff

But not for this sort of stuff

[umbral cliff]

The USA has no consumer laws, of course they’ll exploit it

Though one thing I do like from the USA, their very clear lemon laws. We have protection under consumer laws, but having a clear lemon law would also be nice to enhance that even more

[clear ferry]

what is a lemon law

[umbral cliff]

Think it’s 3 new car repairs for the same item (or just the car generally?) and you can lemon the car and get a replacement or refund

Which we have under our consumer laws, but it’s more vague as it covers everything (if a product is unfit for use then you’re entitled to replacement or refund or repair depending on how severe and what’s led to it)

[clear ferry]

ah, we have stuff like that too

The law is very clear here, the supplier can fix an item 2 times, if the same thing fails a third time you can ask them to repair it OR get your purchase refunded

the exact same error, very clear

[umbral cliff]

Yeah we don’t have that level of clarity
Wish we did, but consumer law does cover it at least. Just more vague and general speaking

[clear ferry]

yeah, we also have 5 years of "reclamation" which means we can report any issues like a warranty case, for any goods, even if the product warranty is only 1 or 3 years

[drowsy berry]

every tesla comes with free toilet paper, it's incredible value the Dear Leader is giving us!

[umbral cliff]

Ours is a reasonable length of time for the product
Which means you could argue 5-10 years for a fridge or a car given that’s a reasonable length of time lol

[clear ferry]

ah yeah, ours is fixed 5

other than that it is the 3 times rule, or consumer court

[umbral cliff]

Yeah both have their ups and downs. Wish it was more fixed but I like the flexibility

Have managed to get Apple to honour warranty for a 6 year old laptop before lol
Was relatively easy too

[forest edge]

i find it ironic how you can advocate for something you believe is the correct course but then rip on it's early adoption pains as if maybe it's not something we should be investing in to begin with lol

plus imported cars tend to always have more issues than domestic so the brand you guys like are shit to others just as ours is shit to you lol

[drowsy berry]

i've owned a jeep, two fords, a toyota, and a honda, and the last two have been the most reliable things ive ever owned

id love to import something JDM one of these days

[umbral cliff]

All brands are imported for Australia.

[forest edge]

you guys customize just about everything that enters your land as is, not quite the same lol

may as well say 50/50 lol

[umbral cliff]

Huh? A Tesla here is the same as the USA just different side of the car steering wheel
Bar the design rules (which every country has their own variation of, and every country varies a car) they otherwise are identical or the choice of the manufacturer

[forest edge]

it's imported, which is what I was talking about. but to your remark that everything is.. a lot of vehicles you guys get go through an aussie process from what I have seen

[umbral cliff]

Every car goes through a process for their country. The manufacturers make the cars for the region they’re sold in to meet the legal requirements

[forest edge]

from what I have seen not every country needs as much changes as yours does

and those changes are done in your country I believe. not externally

wait.. those are domestic vehicles

[umbral cliff]

Nope the cars are exported with the changes made
Given some of those changes include a kmh dash and the steering wheel on the right hand side of the car…

We also don’t require many changes at all. It’s no different than any other car made for a region

[forest edge]

you have your own

not all your vehicles are imported

[umbral cliff]

Huh? We have no domestically produced cars

As of 2017

[ocean oar]

The US model Teslas have their stupid blinking brake lights design for rear indicators, rest of the world gets sensible orange ones.

Or like this person, sometimes one of each 😄 https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/cqs9me/

[forest edge]

oh nm.. i was reading the racing manufactures lol

[umbral cliff]

Lol that’s hilarious how that made it past QC at the factory
Or even a pre delivery inspection

[ocean oar]

The km / mi dashboard is probably a software change these days, but aside from which side the wheel is on, the rear lights is probably one of the major hardware changes

[umbral cliff]

Some countries use different shaped mirrors (eg I think the uk is curved vs flat for the wing mirrors)
But it’s very minor stuff overall

And yeah digital dash is just a software option, one you can change yourself on most cars too (same with language)

[drowsy berry]

my brother's car is a buick lesabre (steers like a concrete fridge) and it's got a switch that converts the spedometer from mi to km. super neat

[solar zealot]

imagine paying a lot of money for this

💀

[drowsy berry]

ive got some smaller numbers on mine for kilometers, it'll come in handy in quebec next month

[real frigate]

My older Mini had both MPH and KM. But my newer one just has MPH. Guess I can’t go to Canada without having to do math in my head.

[clear ferry]

the original teslas came from the US to norway, their build quality was rubbish, when they swapped to china it improved drastically

[real frigate]

I have a buddy that had a Tesla. Said it was the worst car he ever owned.

[clear ferry]

its quite funny driving past a tesla dealer, they always have 30-50 cars outside waiting to be repaired

yet it is still the most sold ev here for some reason

[umbral cliff]

Cheap?

Though I do like the Tesla way of ordering, no overwhelming options, cars come with almost all the features, and can easily order online without needing to talk to anyone

[umbral cliff]

Interesting they did that
Pretty sure the uk speedos are dual speed (unless it could display kmh in that little display)

[dusky plank]

Thats what I see too. Very simple ordering/configuration with standard stuff included which other brands don‘t do

Recently i came across a audi etron which doesn‘t have navigation and also no carplay/AA

EV without navigation to tell you when and where you can plug in on your trip… who does that?

The middle console is a huge display but completely useless, they could have also put in a car radio from 1998

[umbral cliff]

That’s amazing that a brand new ev doesn’t have any support. I thought it would be standard to at least have a basic nav system (especially since it can be easily monetised with live traffic, etc too)

[clear ferry]

It does, but you pay extra $2 per month per service, navigation, airplay, wireless charging, Adaptive headlights

$8 per month just those 4

It's already installed in the car

[umbral cliff]

It’s also neat how Tesla is standard across countries, whilst other brands seem to vary even their option packs per country

Like my new Mercedes I got, had 1 option pack alongside choice of seat material and outside colour

In the uk that’s 5 option packs to add confusion lol

[umbral cliff]

Wireless charging?? That’s such a weird feature to monetise lol

The features my merc has paid are things that could cost money (aka they’re all features that use the internet)

[clear ferry]

Fun fact about Tesla options, in Norway they are forced by law to transfer if you paid $10k for the upgrade performance, in the us they recharge every new owner when the Tesla is sold

[clear ferry]

I pay nothing for the Volvo, all included

All smart services

And i put my work sim card in the car, so I have free internet hotspot and streaming

Used 110GB last summer over 2 weeks of vacation with the kids

[umbral cliff]

They’re only included for the first 5 years here (warranty period)
But eh not the end of the world

The remote unlocking/locking and vehicle tracking is just fun stats for home assistant lol
I use CarPlay and stream audio through that (or I can hotspot but im lazy)

Haven’t looked to see whether I can swap a sim in the car, if I could that would be neat, $10/month and use my bundled 200gb/month mobile data lol

[dusky plank]

No.
This model does not support any of that. Trust me

Thats why i write it

[solar zealot]

Having to pay for something and then being bound by a subscription is simply theft

[dusky plank]

Apple even lists the Q4 etron with carplay support but this configuration did not support it. Nothing you can pay up to add it

[umbral cliff]

That’s insane

Whoever signed off on that must’ve been smoking something strong

[umbral cliff]

So a phone?
Useless as a phone without a subscription of some sort

[solar zealot]

A phone does not come with a subscription silly

You can literally change service providers and keep the same device

Try that with a car

[umbral cliff]

Yeah im meming lol

[solar zealot]

Itl be quite hilarious if that would work considering most car brands belong to the same group

[dusky plank]

Teslas also don‘t have carplay (at least they did for a while don‘t know if things changed) but at least you get basic functionality of locking/unlocking etc… none of that was available in the audi

[umbral cliff]

I don’t mind subscriptions in cars for things that require ongoing costs (so anything that pulls data from the internet/ requires live updating/ map updates because they cost money)
But don’t like locking actual features, give me a once off buy option at least to click and have it for good

[umbral cliff]

Musk hates Apple, no CarPlay or Android auto

[solar zealot]

Costly map updates when you have literally open source style maps available is kinda a ripoff

Just give us proper android/ios integrations

Or don't include this kinda system at all and just reserve that dash space to add tablets

[umbral cliff]

Or do both
I prefer factory nav to google/Apple Maps lol (I am weird though)

Think my car comes with 5-10 years map updates, not going to be worried about getting the updates in the future

(Also god no don’t just put a tablet slot, now you need a tablet that would work, and most of them are crap or would die in the sun. Would need specific products for in car display style)

[solar zealot]

AliExpress and you buy a dozen of the cheap ones ^^

Repeat every year and it's probably still cheaper than the car manufacturers asking price for it

[umbral cliff]

$0 for in car nav or wireless Android auto/ CarPlay for my car
A tablet would genuinely cost a lot more

[unkempt rover]

Hello, does anybody here know much about running fiber optic cables?

I need run a 150m fiber from a UI switch to a UI switch. I found this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Elfcam®-Simplex-Singlemode-Compatible-Cables-white/dp/B08YS18222?th=1

I would hope to use it with these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/CERRXIAN-Transceiver-SFP-WDM-SM-Tx1550nm-Rx1310nm-1/dp/B09V6Z5HMQ/ref=sr_1_3
CERRXIAN

It would be my fist fiber run so I'm worried im not going to get the correct stuff

[solar zealot]

is there a reason for why this needs to be fiber in the first place

the range of the transceiver probably is too large

[clear ferry]

Interesting, all etrons in Norway come with all options physically

I'm more curious why you want to do bidi @unkempt rover

But it should probably work

[unkempt rover]

I actually dont know what bidi is

[clear ferry]

It is single strand

Duplexing

[unkempt rover]

Its too long for cat5e

[clear ferry]

In spec, yes

In practice, no

[solar zealot]

i mean you can always go cat 6, 6e or 7

[clear ferry]

I've done 150+ with cat5e before

But it will rate down to 100

[unkempt rover]

I ran 4 cat5e cables for it already and one by one they have all failed. Now down to 2 autonegotiating to 100mbps

[solar zealot]

like this is just gbit speeds with that transceiver no? (i never manage to tell but it looks like it for the 25$ price tag)

[unkempt rover]

It says 1.25

[clear ferry]

That is because it is bidi, used for gpon usually

So you need the extra overhead for bidi I believe

[unkempt rover]

But sounds like it will provide at least a gig of connectivity though, right?

[solar zealot]

considering that 6e is fine for 10gig over 100m (per spec) i dont see the need for a fiber run

[clear ferry]

Yes, fiber costs nothing though, if you do regular non bidi stuff

[solar zealot]

i mean the links above suggests a 130$ price tag

[unkempt rover]

Yeah you are right

I had not considered using something faster than 5e

It would seem like that might be the best choice here

using 6e

[clear ferry]

https://www.fs.com/de-en/products/74668.html?country=no&currency=NOK&languages=English&paid=google_shopping

[solar zealot]

it is at least some cheaper than the links above, they both will do what you want

[unkempt rover]

So can 6e really do a gig up to 300m?

reliably

[solar zealot]

if its in the spec it needs to

tho there are differences in actual shielding on some. like the flat style cable ones, they probably wont

with 7 and above they also get even more shielding, larger wires and are significantly less flexible

[unkempt rover]

hang on are we actually talking about cat 6?

I might have added the e

[solar zealot]

no 6e is the thing

its not too easy to know the differences, there are lookup tables online

[unkempt rover]

Not seeing much 6e on amazon and google said its not officially recognised

[tidal bronze]

Cat6 300m?

[clear ferry]

Pretty sure you can't do that reliably

[unkempt rover]

Are we talking about 6a maybe

[tidal bronze]

Spec is 328ft. 100m

[clear ferry]

Yes, and 150 can be fine

But 300, unlikely

[solar zealot]

for 10gbit

[tidal bronze]

10GbaseT is 55m

[clear ferry]

For cat6 yes, 100 for cat6a

[tidal bronze]

Anything over 90m I would run fiber now.

[unkempt rover]

I am now completely lost. What, in spec, can do 1 gig at 150m?

[unkempt rover]

How come?

[tidal bronze]

Cheap

[unkempt rover]

but its still more expensive, right? I do need to go the cheapest route

[tidal bronze]

If you are going 1g under 150m do cat

[unkempt rover]

cat what?

[tidal bronze]

6

Even 5e would do

LAG?

[unkempt rover]

Already using that and they are all failing

4 slightly over 100m runs

[tidal bronze]

2x or 4x

[unkempt rover]

and It also may have been trampled on a bit so that could be part of it but even before that I noticed it starting to negotiate down to 100

4

[tidal bronze]

DIY crimp or premade?

[unkempt rover]

DIY but ive run lots and lots and lots and never had the issue. This is the only run where i actually went a little over 100m and its not happy after a while.

[tidal bronze]

You must be dealing with RFI since you are pushing it at 100m

[unkempt rover]

Yeah I could be!

[tidal bronze]

Only reason to negotiate down after sometime.

Seen it many times.

[unkempt rover]

Which would point me to using fiber i guess?

[tidal bronze]

Yes, extra money is worth less headaches and counting meters

[unkempt rover]

In that case, may I ask your opinion on the picks i made?

[unkempt rover]

here

[tidal bronze]

Amazon UK 😆

[unkempt rover]

Using amazon makes it really easy for invoices and stuff so im being laaazy

[tidal bronze]

That's not a bad price.

[unkempt rover]

It was the cheapest I could find

I am more concerned about if it will work

[tidal bronze]

I would do duplex

This is linking 2 unifi units?

[unkempt rover]

Yes

[tidal bronze]

Jeirdus 50M LC to LC Outdoor Armored Duplex 9/125 SM Fiber Optic Cable Jumper Optical Patch Cord Singlemode 50Meters 160ft LC-LC https://a.co/d/05WfhJSZ

Something similar in your market

You can try multimode but the length is pushing it, but will be cheaper.

[unkempt rover]

Is there much benefit to using duplex?

[tidal bronze]

Distance

[unkempt rover]

versus the other one? was it bidi?

[tidal bronze]

I don't have experience with the other. All my runs are few km

[unkempt rover]

Gotcha

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Elfcam®-Reinforced-Outdoor-Indoor-Multimode/dp/B097ZGKGL8/ref=sr_1_3

Thats probably what I would get

[tidal bronze]

It's amazon, order a few types and try it out. Cheap works return the rest.

[unkempt rover]

Then something like this? https://www.amazon.co.uk/10Gtek-Multimode-Transceiver-UF-MM-10G-10GBase-SR/dp/B01M0QYSMS/ref=sr_1_4?

So would it actually be 10G?

[tidal bronze]

You might be able to find custom length dealers much lower than Amazon.

[unkempt rover]

I will shop around but at least I have a baseline now of what im looking for

[tidal bronze]

If your port supports it.

[unkempt rover]

The transceiver says its rated for 300m Would that be too high and burn something out. Would I need to lower the output somehow with something. I think I saw someone doing something like that on youtube once but for a much bigger run though

[tidal bronze]

I usually order armored custom length 8 strand duplex LC.

[tidal bronze]

That's thinking too much. 😀

[unkempt rover]

Do i need to care about om4 vs om3 or anything like that?

[real frigate]

You can set it to KPH, but the dial is still MPH.

[tidal bronze]

3 would be fine. You are not going that far.

[unkempt rover]

Thanks for all your help!

[weak musk]

Tell me why this is the wrong thing universal remote lovers https://www.switch-bot.com/pages/switchbot-universal-remote

[real frigate]

Huh… I mean, on paper it looks good. I’d have to see some reviews on it.

[unkempt rover]

To control what exactly?

[weak musk]

#the-water-cooler message

[real frigate]

All the thingz

[unkempt rover]

Looks cool!

I thought you were talking about this https://www.switch-bot.com/products/switchbot-bot

[clear ferry]

I'm currently going to replace all the switches and thermostats in my new house with smart ones

that'll be fun

and replace 30 or so spots with philips hue probably

[real frigate]

I did that, probably not the same amount as you. Fun times.

[clear ferry]

Phew, I've just been troubleshooting on 150 servers that are $500k each

Then Bois are loud

[solar zealot]

What kind of people actually enjoy eating mac n cheese

It's terrible

[iron granite]

Macintoshs and iMacs don't taste very well indeed

[clear ferry]

If it is made with actual cheese it isn't terrible

But powdered cheese

Oh lawd

[solar zealot]

I have no idea what they made it with

But it was the equivalent of cheese on toast

Super bland

[prisma briar]

I was trying to make something similar to this but with an eink touchscreen a couple years ago. I should go back to that, I was basically done except for needing to find a different model of screen.

That screen looks cool but takes 35s per frame draw

[orchid rose]

Cheese melts are amazing and cacio e pepe which is basically Mac and cheese is a classic for a reason

[weak musk]

All of Italy is mad with you now.

[orchid rose]

Am I wrong? 🙂

[solar zealot]

probably something for people who find mayonnaise spicy

[torpid grove]

wish me luck, I'm about to turn on ip-passthrough for my stupid att fiber modemter to get rid of the weird double nat i've been dealing with

[torpid grove]

also, why do people seem to love remotes? what do you need to control that isn't better controlled by automation?

[clear ferry]

I too don't understand remotes

[forest edge]

automations cannot read your mind

[clear ferry]

If you give it your patterns it can

We are all just if, while, else, then statements

[forest edge]

you implying your day to day action can fit in an automation written by yaml?

[clear ferry]

Mostly yes

If I turn on the kitchen fan, turn the lights up, I'm making dinner

If I start a movie after the kids have gone to bed, dim the lights and turn on auto mute if their doors open

If I leave the house and turn on the alarm please vacuum

If I open a door I probably want light

If I turn off the bedside lamp, turn off all house lights

We are creatures of pattern

[torpid grove]

I usually do nodered instead of yaml, because of how bad I am at guessing what to do

[forest edge]

sounds like half the time you get light when you don't really need it

[torpid grove]

my automation checks to see if I want light before turns it on

[clear ferry]

Not really, there are no circumstances I wouldn't want light when entering a room

[forest edge]

even if half your roof was gone during the day?

[torpid grove]

there are a bunch where I don't want it, but they're all handled by luminance sensors

why would half of your roof be gone?

[clear ferry]

The brightness and color are automated 24/7 anyway

[torpid grove]

what do you use for your brightness and color automation?

[clear ferry]

Adaptive lighting

Used to do circadian lighting

[torpid grove]

ah, ok. I tried that one, but it does the opposite of what I want it to

[clear ferry]

Controls 80 or so lights in my house

[iron granite]

Or for the purists the Flux integration

[clear ferry]

I tried that years ago

And it was shite

[weak musk]

This would mostly be for home theater applications. I hate using a touchscreen to control my tv etc.

[torpid grove]

oh. i don't see how that one is any better than the remote that the tv came with then

[weak musk]

Sorry for pinging you too. I’m on mobile so it’s not off by default

[torpid grove]

i mostly use the googleTV remote

meh, once in awhile never hurt anyone

thanks though

[clear ferry]

I have just used cec for well over a decade

One remote for everything

[weak musk]

I do too! And with the right devices it works well, I typically only have to touch my appletv remote to control my tv/receiver/appletv

[clear ferry]

Same here

Does everything I need

[weak musk]

But for some people it doesn’t work (like code in progress), it also doesn’t work on my smaller tv where I have an older soundbar that doesn’t have hdmi.

[clear ferry]

Can't you teach the apple remote another ir device? I'm sure that was an option

But I don't use that

[weak musk]

I’m pretty sure you can for volume control, but I don’t know about power off/on. The appletv remote works fine for the tv with cec but not the soundbar. Again it’s not the end of the world for me, because I use this tv like .5% of the time.

[torpid grove]

hmm

[weak musk]

I haven’t messed with the learning controls on the Apple TV at all

[torpid grove]

this sort of seem to be working with ip passthrough, except my HA box.

[weak musk]

But by default I know it can control the volume

[torpid grove]

which is still doing automatic things, so it's running, but isn't accessible

[clear ferry]

I'm gonna replace my bedroom tv with a Samsung freestyle + 2 Ikea bedside lamps and an apple tv

[torpid grove]

and it was running my unifi controller, so I can't check that to see wtf is up. dammit.

that's a weird set of things to be instead of a TV

[weak musk]

The ikea lights are Sonos speakers

[clear ferry]

I need lamps, and I need a flexible placement video thing

Perfect combo

[forest edge]

lol you and ikea

[torpid grove]

i replaced my bedroom tv with not watching tv in bed

i fall asleep a lot easier now

[clear ferry]

Tradfri and symfonisk 4 lyfe

[weak musk]

I haven’t had a tv in my room for 12 years. Highly recommend

*bedroom

[forest edge]

so just don't turn it on?

[clear ferry]

Me and the wife watch one episode before bed, and it's great when the kids crawl into the bed on Sunday morning

Usually it is anime in bed to be fair

https://tenor.com/view/naruhodo-anime-weeb-i-see-glasses-gif-14617903

[weak musk]

Is this directed at me?

[forest edge]

no

[torpid grove]

fuck. now I think I locked myself out of my modem

it's never asked for a username before

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge is it OK ?

[torpid grove]

cooking pork?

[tidal bronze]

Good times!

[forest edge]

is it reading the foods scoville scale?

[tidal bronze]

Ah forget the UI and rounding crap

[torpid grove]

it's hotter in my yard than it is in your BBQ

oh thank boogers. it just needed a minute to finish wtfever it was doing

[tidal bronze]

Ain't she pretty? Clarified butter time.

[torpid grove]

so... not pork?

[tidal bronze]

I try to stay away from steamed blocks of water

[weak musk]

That is a reasonable amount of garlic

[torpid grove]

is it crack? I'm asking because i think you're on crack.... and I'm explaining that because I think you're on crack

[weak musk]

Garlic is great

[tidal bronze]

Only pork that's edible is berkshire pork belly, spicy Korean style. Anything else, no thank you. Bland as bland can get.

So many choices, why on earth would you eat some meat because the sauce tastes good 🤣

[tidal bronze]

Always.

[forest edge]

spoken like a true man who has never been able to finish a whole cookie

[torpid grove]

Well, it's not poultry, so it must be over cooked beef?

[tidal bronze]

Linguine a la putangesca, tail on shrimp with lemon pinot grigrio reduction and cream of mushroom sauce with leeks.. Wife said she was hungry.

[torpid grove]

Linguini in the style of a whore. Everyone's favorite

[tidal bronze]

Yes sir.

[forest edge]

i can tell those pics are not what you cooked cause they look somewhat ediable to me lol

I would eat that spaghetti

maybe a couple of those shrimp

the bottom dish tho.. i would sit down for the dog

[tidal bronze]

Consider yourself privileged if you get the opportunity to eat my food.

[forest edge]

why would i be privileged? you been trying to poison me for years now lol

[tidal bronze]

You never fail to crack me up

[tidal bronze]

That's the sauce for the steak smart ass.

We don't do that A1 here

[forest edge]

lol oh

can't wait till the girl comes back.. i'm running out of tv dinners lol

may actually have to go get take out or something

[tidal bronze]

Some of your concerns addressed 😆

[torpid grove]

Well, I seem to have totally fucked up my home network. Which at least validates my worry about doing this earlier

[forest edge]

she clearly hasn't had to pay any kind of bills or taxes yet lol

[tidal bronze]

Husband is a nurse. She will be just fine.

[forest edge]

ah yea 2 weeks

that was a 2 week review of cali

everything looks good in just 2 weeks lol

you should subscribe so you can post her one year review

[tidal bronze]

Dude she can just be happy with the weather, everything else is a bonus.

[forest edge]

that way we can get a good laugh

[torpid grove]

if your steak needs sauce, it's overcooked.

[tidal bronze]

We are talking about 2 different spectrums.

[torpid grove]

do you dramatically overcook pork too and that's why you think it's flavorless?

[tidal bronze]

When we say sauce or reduction is to complement the notes. Not to mask the meat.

[torpid grove]

my mom was like that

cooked everything like it was a tough roast

[tidal bronze]

Where you at? Or city?

Just want to make sure we are talking apples to apples.

[torpid grove]

is it a tough roast? is that all you can get where you live?

[forest edge]

needs more A1

[weak musk]

What temps are you cooking to (for beef) QF?

[tidal bronze]

Oh you just a little shy to say your city.

[torpid grove]

I live close enough to get things from the farm

but far enough that I go to the butcher instead

[tidal bronze]

135 rest to 143/145

[forest edge]

I thought i heard someone in my barn..

[weak musk]

Yeah, not overcooked.

[torpid grove]

that's at least 10 degrees overcooked, and for a good cut it's more like 15

[tidal bronze]

Ok my unknown city buddy.

[weak musk]

Hard disagree

[torpid grove]

I'm sorry you have the taste buds of a 12 year old

[tidal bronze]

If it floats your boat. Glad to be 12

[forest edge]

you realize you lose taste buds over time right?

what a weird statement to make

[weak musk]

Braincells too

So everything is adding up

[tidal bronze]

Taste buds?

[torpid grove]

maybe after you hit 60

if you want to nitpick, then "you have the unrefined tastes of a 12 year old"

[tidal bronze]

You mean the comms breakdown of Olfactory sensory neurons?

Not sure what you mean by taste buds and taste.

[torpid grove]

I hope you got the good red kool aid to go with that

[forest edge]

I totally understand you were born with none.. but for normal people we have them lol

[weak musk]

QF, you fly a lot right? How do I book a flight away from this conversation?

[tidal bronze]

Yep just hit 4.9 million and 1.1 to go before I call it a day.

This 12 year old figuring out taste buds and going places. 🤣

[clear ferry]

I'm not your taste buddy

https://tenor.com/view/im-not-your-friend-buddy-phillip-terrance-south-park-im-not-your-buddy-guy-gif-22089587

[tidal bronze]

@clear ferry going to swing by one if these days and try this whale stuff. Put all questions to rest.

[clear ferry]

If it is done correctly it is great

If it is done wrong it is horrible

[forest edge]

was nice knowing ya

[clear ferry]

Same for seal

[tidal bronze]

You guys usually do carpaccio?

[clear ferry]

You can do carpaccio

Not normal outside of Michelin stuff though

Sashimi is fine though

[tidal bronze]

Oh nice. Never knew they did Sashimi.

So just dip in nikiri shoyu and go?

Was in Frankfurt 2 weeks ago will be there next month. Going to take a quick flight and check this stuff out.

Any recommendations?

[forest edge]

this such a weird suicide note

"I've had enough! Cannot handle anymore! I'm flying to norway to eat atx's food"

[forest edge]

Does dying from the gut battling rotten food count as dying in battle and grant entry into valhalla?

[iron granite]

You mean Surströmming?

[orchid rose]

You'd be surprised but outside of YouTube or Reality TV, most people don't eat that shit

[winged obsidian]

Generic mac & cheese lacks the black pepper.

[bitter pawn]

*looks @last cedar *

[solar zealot]

what kinda canned fish is this

[orchid rose]

No American grandmom would scald you for putting in some pepper

[iron granite]

Herring

[solar zealot]

[orchid rose]

Why is the cat angry? Herring is amazing pickled

[solar zealot]

it has none

[orchid rose]

Makes sense then

[iron granite]

Do cats like Surströmming? 🤔

[orchid rose]

I doubt it. Humans are pretty rare in enjoying rotten stuff afaik

There are a few birds that enjoy alcohol and some weirdos who get high on snake poison, but it's mostly just us that enjoy the weird stuff I believe

[ocean oar]

Drunk birds, you say https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSM3x9G7eTQ

[orchid rose]

Mosquittos get drunk from drinking our blood as well. It would be quite funny if they weren't such annoying bloodsuckers, fuck 'em

[tidal bronze]

You must be a pro by now. All those barn and backyard TV meals

[forest edge]

must be hard for you knowing you'll never really get to taste excellence and will just have to suffice eating monkey brains

[static schooner]

he can go take a bite out of a random cow any time he wants

[prisma briar]

#hardware-archived

[proven python]

Thank you! I will ask there!

[forest edge]

this weather can fuck off.

it has periodically rained just a little bit to keep the humidity high while maintaining a 90+ temp

[real frigate]

Ew. That’s nasty. We hit 96 today and I was just miserable. No rain, but high humidity too.

[prisma briar]

Wrong channel, oops

Was just trying to send it to myself

[real frigate]

Hahahaha that LOOK THO!

[static schooner]

He's clearly judging you

[prisma briar]

I think she was annoyed I was taking photos instead of going for a walk

[real frigate]

Or you were near her toy? That’s how my JRT gets. Like “you think you’re gonna touch MY toy?!?!?!”

[forest edge]

@tidal bronzestrap up and give me the remote. https://youtube.com/shorts/EnGgyLjAQTI?si=kRGCsia5dtpSBTb4

[static schooner]

How much are those kitties in the window?

[forest edge]

https://youtube.com/shorts/jqFnCI9aOyg?si=Lcno0G7uw9R4O-bR

wtf is with all these weird wines? lol

[drowsy berry]

because you can make alcohol of anything

turns out some of it is damn good, too

[ocean oar]

Some of it, however, isn't: https://www.reddit.com/r/firewater/comments/bgogih/

[prisma briar]

Eww

[ocean oar]

The simultaneously good and bad thing about the internet. Brings together like-minded people with horrible ideas and too much time on their hands

[winged obsidian]

The next time I have 42 lbs of onions I don’t know what to do with, I won’t do that.

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/meatloaf-i-wont-do-that-no-gif-14831823

[winged obsidian]

Onion loaf

[tidal bronze]

Have you tried monkey?

[forest edge]

no, no desire to contract HIV

[tidal bronze]

Is HIV still a thing? Monkey is good. Give it a try

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-eating-fat-chips-lays-gif-19733564

[forest edge]

never heard of the cattail plant?

https://tenor.com/view/jdeici-bambus-eat-bite-puke-weird-gif-16652902

[real frigate]

I seriously have no hope left for humanity.

[dusky plank]

yeah please don't try this, anywhere

[solar zealot]

Is it really worse than vaping 😄

don't tell generation tiktok else they try it

[prisma briar]

TikToker: Look, candy!

[solar zealot]

Mhmmmm tasty

[weak musk]

https://tenor.com/view/idiocracy-electrolytes-gatorade-thirsty-dehydrated-gif-14846789

[clear ferry]

Just hawk tuah on those tide pods

[dusky plank]

Android peoples: how do you keep wireguard always on? It randomly turns off for me, seems like when it looses signal or network it just switches off and I already set to everything auto on 😦

😦

[iron granite]

My internet connection gets cut once every 24 h by my ISP. Whenever that happens, the Wireguard tunnel fails. It doesn't seem to auto-reconnect.

[dusky plank]

https://tenor.com/view/arrested-development-david-cross-tobias-funke-there-are-dozens-of-us-dozens-gif-5426075

That may be a different problem though.

I see two android devices behaving the same. They don‘t have cellular so when wifi disconnects then it stops wg and never activates the tunnel again when connecting to wifi

So there has to be a workaround, preferably not tasker which is $$$

Android 10 and 13 that is

ios and any other clients don‘t behave like that for me, they just open again when connection is ready

[iron granite]

I had mine set to enforce tunneled traffic and wondered, why my phone did not play Spotify music anymore the next morning.

[dusky plank]

Exactly

So: whats the solution?

Hello?

Channel dead ☠️

[glacial knot]

I turn it on. Done

[glacial knot]

yea, it doesn't re-do DNS. Same for the linux in-kernel client