the-water-cooler

[real frigate]

I don't mind being reminded to subscribe once or twice... but some of these where it's "reminded" 5 or 6 or more times? That's an ad to me.

[prisma briar]

Or if they release 5 minute videos and a minute of each is begging you to interact

[forest edge]

youtube has a neat thing to where when the author speaks it the little subscibe button lights up

i found that clever

[orchid rose]

You can also whitelist channels where you don't mind it and want to support the creator

[prisma briar]

This is just like one PC over the last year (though I do walk away and leave it auto-playing for hours all the time)

[orchid rose]

Where do you find that?

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-5413974953753901704

[prisma briar]

at the bottom of the extension popup window

[orchid rose]

Oh I see:

You've skipped 6,648 segments ( 2d 18h 21.6 minutes )

[forest edge]

why would you walk away and leave a yt video playing?

[orchid rose]

wut

[lone dagger]

My sister does this with all video.

I have no idea why.

JUST PAUSE, STOP EATING MY BANDWIDTH

[real frigate]

lol bandwidth isn't free everywhere?!

[forest edge]

youtube will just keep cycling videos.. why support people your not even watching?

[lone dagger]

I frequently hit my 1.2GB limit.

[prisma briar]

Generally because I'm still listening to it while doing something else then I get distracted and end up in another room. Have you never left a TV on?

[lone dagger]

[real frigate]

I have unlimited, so I don't worry about it, but yeah, I can see why that would suck.

[forest edge]

i get music yt videos..

[primal laurel]

Limit? Lol what

[forest edge]

just not leaving youtube run a muck

[prisma briar]

Also going back to turn YT off is basically a non-priority for me

[lone dagger]

🌈 C O M C A S T 🌈

[orchid rose]

Xqc does this to make a living 😉 (He's a streamer that got into some controversy for doing "reaction content" where it was 1½ hours of video with like 7 minutes of reactions like "wow")

[lone dagger]

xQc can jump off a bridge.

🤣

He made Overwatch so toxic at first.

[forest edge]

don't get me started on the whole "yt is my job thing"

[primal laurel]

Asmongold is also a moron with his stupid reaction videos

Free money

[prisma briar]

I've been leaving Amazon Music playing all the time too and just attach/detach my speakers from it when I want music.

[forest edge]

i am so cheap I won't let youtube cycle even if it don't cost me anything directly

[lone dagger]

Tbqf, it’s a better option for a lot of people if they throw their whole selves into it.

Capitalism roles just ain’t it for some.

[prisma briar]

Yea, I don't have bandwidth caps or anything, I have no reason to care about YouTube auto-playing beyond it sometimes going off on a weird train of videos.

[forest edge]

it's a doorway to something much worse than what we are already seeing.. remember that

[lone dagger]

Okay what would make a train video weird to you??

[forest edge]

it's the giving all the people it cycles through more views is what I dislike lol

[prisma briar]

Lol, I meant weird videos in general. For a while there it was giving me train schedule update videos for random towns in Europe with like 50 views as recommendations though.

[prisma briar]

I can't imagine caring about that

[orchid rose]

I've disabled autoplay just to keep my feed somewhat connected to reality

It only takes one click on a prageru video and you end up on a very weird side of the platform

[prisma briar]

Autoplay is generally fine for me as long as I'm watching something I normally watch, it's when I watch a new type of video that it goes off on weird tangents

Also you can remove videos from your history

And it doesn't suggest based off of them anymore

There's been a few times I've watched a video or two on a subject and noticed I had a dozen recommendations for that topic on every page so I removed them from my history

[forest edge]

sounds like more work than just simply not letting youtube run a muck

[prisma briar]

My favorite was when I was getting pages of SIP protocol videos because I watched one video on SIP handshaking

[prisma briar]

Eh, I have to remove videos I intentionally watched from my history because they spam my recommendations pretty frequently.

[orchid rose]

On this point, how is it any different from TV? There's sooooo much quality content on YouTube these days. It's grown a lot since the charlie-bit-my-finger times

[prisma briar]

It's more of a career than TV production anymore

[forest edge]

tv your paying regardless if it's on or off

aside from ota etc

[prisma briar]

The only thing leaving YouTube on costs me is electricity

[forest edge]

no but you are supporting others your not even watching

[prisma briar]

So?

[forest edge]

standard tv dosen't work that way

[prisma briar]

I don't get why that matters

[forest edge]

it may not to you

[prisma briar]

I don't get why it matters to anyone

It's not like I pay anything when a creator gets a view

[forest edge]

well when you support crap and get more crap.. then you can't complain.. right?

[clear ferry]

Imagine if that creator is Andrew Tate

[prisma briar]

If my YouTube auto-played Andrew Tate I'd go re-evaluate my life.

[clear ferry]

Slippery slope from Blippy to Sesame street to Andrew Tate to <insert something here>

[prisma briar]

The weird shit I get is like extended cuts of repair videos where some guy is badly singing during it to keep himself occupied.

[orchid rose]

I guess you haven't watched lots of politics related stuff on YouTube. It gets you there real quick whether you want it or not

[prisma briar]

No, I avoid anything political on YouTube. If I need to watch a political or news video I remove it from my history afterwards. Otherwise my feed goes to shit fast.

[clear ferry]

I mostly watch network design, conference presentations, walking videos and electronic repairs

[prisma briar]

I watch a lot of retro tech stuff and random history videos mostly

[orchid rose]

wtf are walking videos?

[prisma briar]

videos of people recording going for a walk

[orchid rose]

that's a thing?

[forest edge]

you didn't know watching other people exercise is the same as doing it yourself?

[orchid rose]

I'm watching people kicking a football as we speak

[forest edge]

soccer

[orchid rose]

yes, a ball you kick with your foot

[prisma briar]

Do you think people watch talk shows because they want to be a talk show host, too?

[forest edge]

you saying some don't?

[lone dagger]

The weirdest side effect I get from my ADHD medication is full body goosebumps when it's being processed.

No reason for this post, just talking because I can.

[forest edge]

your not talking about ritalin are you?

[lone dagger]

No, I don't take stimulants because I have severe anxiety - I have enough problems with feeling like my heart will explode as is.

I take Strattera.

[forest edge]

ritalin is horrible

[real frigate]

You're not on real meds until you take risperidone. That stuff is... fun...

[lone dagger]

My son tolerates it okay, but I have a feeling we will need to shift. It's not fully helping with his symptoms anymore and I don't think we can go higher. Which is fine, I would prefer him on a non-stimulant anyway....

[forest edge]

yea I would always advise getting off ritalin but that's just my personal opinion

drug has been around since the 40's and has never improved

[prisma briar]

It's crazy to me we ever thought it was acceptable to give kids meth

[real frigate]

But what would kids in Florida do without it???

[iron granite]

Do you all have a cupboard drawer for all the medical stuff, too?

And some stuff in the refridgerator

[real frigate]

cough medicine cabinet is the proper term cough

[prisma briar]

I keep all my medicine in a drawer in my desk

[iron granite]

Really?

[real frigate]

That doesn't count... looks like a hospital or a medical facility. They have LOTS of drawers. lol

Maybe medicine cabinet is an American thing? I dunno... but most people I know use the cabinet in the bathroom called the "medicine cabinet".

[prisma briar]

That's where I keep my extra toothpaste

[iron granite]

I disagree. The drawer below it looks like this

[real frigate]

Well, yeah... those are snacks if you behave well... obviously that place isn't cheap and just gives you a lollipop. Nope, you get a bag of chips!

[iron granite]

I don't get sweets from my doc. Just wine.

[prisma briar]

I've been in a couple hospitals that had snacks like that in lounge rooms

[real frigate]

I want the name of your doctor... I just get a "stop doing [insert thing here]" and a bill for services rendered.

[iron granite]

What are bills for services from a doctor?

[lone dagger]

Adderall is worse, imho. Ritalin is a lighter version of that; still not great but not as strong. There's such a high risk of suicidal ideation with stimulant ADHD medication. :<

[prisma briar]

I took both when I was a teenager, I remember both sucking and not helping anything.

[lone dagger]

He's been on it a couple years now, but I think a non-stimulant will be better. I might talk to his doctor about doing that over the summer, but I haven't fully committed to it yet.

[lone dagger]

Ha, yeah, don't write off non-stimulants, though (if you have, I am making an assumption). Completely different, I don't know how I was able to think before I got on Strattera.

And nothing will ever make you perfect, but hitting that "WAIT THIS IS HOW REGULAR PEOPLE THINK????" is great.

[real frigate]

Go to see the doctor, you get a bill of services (usually a copay if you have insurance). If they have to do more stuff beyond a routine exam or checkup, you sometimes get charged more (if you don't have insurance). American medical care... crappiest in the world. 🤷‍♂️

[prisma briar]

Sometimes they'll decide years later they want more and make up bills to come after you with, too

[real frigate]

Define "REGULAR"? I wanna be like them! lol

[lone dagger]

A neurotypical human being, one who is not divergent in the brain region.

[prisma briar]

A normie

[real frigate]

Oh them? Nah... I'll stick to being ND. Much more fun.

[lone dagger]

Oh I am still massively ND on medication.

I am just in more control of it.

Instead of it controlling me.

No amount of medication will remove autism, lmao.

[real frigate]

lol one of my doctors said that I have outlived other people with my type of ND and I should consider myself exteremly lucky. I just looked at her and was like "thanks?"

[prisma briar]

"You're not dead, rejoice!"

[real frigate]

No, no it won't. Although, we called it something different when I was diagnosed. lol

[iron granite]

We only have to pay a small copay to prescriptions (5-10 EUR), 10 EUR copay per day in hospital (capped at 280 EUR per year) and for non-covered procedures (e.g. better material at the dentist), if we are on basic mandatory insurance.

[lone dagger]

Doctors say some of the dumbest shit sometimes, lol.

[lone dagger]

Ah, you're an Asperger's diagnosis???

[prisma briar]

🍑 🍔

[lone dagger]

My brother was in 2007, too.

[real frigate]

How'd you guess? 😉 lol

[lone dagger]

I ACTUALLY CACKLED

[real frigate]

lmao that made me laugh too

[iron granite]

Well... we and our employers pay to the insurance each month

[lone dagger]

I am not surprised now.

[real frigate]

Imma take that as a term of endearment 😛

[lone dagger]

Did you get the combined ADHD diagnosis, too?

Because that wasn't as prevelant before the DSM V update.

[real frigate]

Nope. My diagnosis was back in the late 80s before ADHD was a thing.

[lone dagger]

Oh you were a lucky one!

"lucky"

[real frigate]

And autistics/Asperger's had a shelf life of 30-40 years.

[lone dagger]

I mean, you got identified early. That isn't common in Autism Level 1 (which is what Asperger's is now called, for those who don't know).

[real frigate]

Yeah, we... aren't that lucky.

[lone dagger]

I was missed thanks to gender.

[real frigate]

I was fortunate to have a mother that was also a RN and knew the symptoms to look for, plus knowing some good doctors. Otherwise, I probably wouldn't have been diagnosed until later in life.

[lone dagger]

Absolutely fortunate.

Even back then, super rare.

We knew there was something "wrong" with us, but when everyone else around is "the same" you just think it's normal.

[real frigate]

EXACTLY

[balmy bough]

<-- Autism level 2-ish (depends on the day)

[real frigate]

Or more aptly known as "why is your child lying there in the fetal position instead of being like the other kids?"

[lone dagger]

If this ain't a whole mood lmao

[iron granite]

I don't take any medication for my depression anymore. Only if it gets worse I will be put on it again. The drugs had some sideeffects, like dry mouth - unfortunately one of the symptoms I also have when my blood glucose level is too high.

[balmy bough]

i have to take meds, or i lose my place to live...

[lone dagger]

I am on more drugs than people expect, rofl. For the same reason as Travis, I am not functional without medication....

If I want to survive, I need what I am on.

[balmy bough]

exactly

[real frigate]

I'm on a mild dosage of risperidone to keep me "level". But, over the years, I've been on some doozies. Antipsychotics are so much fun (said no one ever)

[lone dagger]

That's kind of back to @real frigate's point of dying at age 30-40.

[lone dagger]

Lamictal saved my life. I refuse to get off it.

[balmy bough]

i have been on haloperidol, but hated it

[real frigate]

Yup. Most autistics just don't last that long. There was actually a study done about that... I prefer to think of it as burning the candle at both ends, but that's rarely the case.

halo was HORRIBLE for me.

The hallucinations alone was enough for me to quit it cold turkey.

[iron granite]

Not too many on my side. It were two antidepressivants, one statine and insulin continously injected

[balmy bough]

i just could not keep a straight thought with it

[real frigate]

Lamictal was not too bad, but had the opposite effect and made me super twitchy. My ticks got really bad on it.

Yeah, halo was the one med I acutely remember just being downright horrible. Couldn't focus, hallucinations, major ticks, major meltdowns.... oh it was the WORST

[lone dagger]

burning the candle at both ends
YES. Autistic burnout is so fucking awful. I went through is most of last year even fully medicated due to stress.

[iron granite]

Oh. I missed my sedatives 🤔

[lone dagger]

My sedative is Seroquel - which is the drug that ERs give to people who are on a bad psychedelic trip.

[real frigate]

Ooof I couldn't do insulin. But, I also have a thing with needles too.

[balmy bough]

i love lorazepam

[lone dagger]

AND THEN I have clonazepam for the really bad days.

[iron granite]

It is the same as with your meds. I have the choice to get over it or to die

[lone dagger]

🌈 S E D A T E D 🌈

(And yet I am still a mess in my head, lol.)

[real frigate]

I went though a major episode last year as well. 2 months of major ticks and a damn near psychotic break.

[real frigate]

Oh yeah... I totally get that 100%. I just couldn't do it. My thing with needles makes trips to the hospital... interesting.

[balmy bough]

i have fears of having an episode, and being shot by a cop 😦

[real frigate]

The one med that has saved me time and time again is Buspar. It has done wonders for me without affecting my receptors at all.

[lone dagger]

[real frigate]

I got over the fears of having episodes. I just kind of ride through them now... but my therapist has done wonders giving me tools to be able to at least deal with my meltdowns better. I can now walk down a busy street without curling into a ball.

[lone dagger]

Therapy really is key.

Medication helps, but you need tools to move through what the meds don't help with.

[balmy bough]

<-- has no theripist, just a med manager 😦

[iron granite]

I really should go to therapy. But... yeah

[lone dagger]

tbh, you don't need a THERAPIST to do some therapy. A lot of the skills they teach are very much widely available.

Just gotta have the drive to learn it yourself. Which...uh...ADHD fights against sometimes.

[balmy bough]

yeah, ADHD here too 😦

[real frigate]

^^^ all of this...

[lone dagger]

So happy mine is Inattentive, getting lost in my head is totally a lot better than anything else. /s

[real frigate]

I got lucky with my therapist. She has 2 teenage daughters that are both diagnosed, so she's deep in the field and kind of uses me as a teaching tool.

[lone dagger]

I should find out if my therapist takes my new insurance....

[balmy bough]

i think BPD is in there too, but not sure yet

[lone dagger]

I am not convinced BPD isn't just autism, ngl.

[real frigate]

Ugh, I've known autistics with BPD. Not a good combination at all.

[lone dagger]

So many autistic women are diagnosed with it.

[balmy bough]

same here, hence why not sure

[real frigate]

From some of the studies I've read, BPD can present itself without an autistic diagnosis attached.

It's rare, but it's been documented a few times.

[balmy bough]

yeah, i think it is trauma born

[real frigate]

[lone dagger]

That would make a lot of sense. More related to cPTSD then.

[balmy bough]

yeah

[real frigate]

Pretty much. That's the way I read it at least.

[lone dagger]

Nature vs nurture if you would.

[real frigate]

But, I think it gets conflated with autism because of the similarities in symptoms.

[lone dagger]

Autism 🫱🏻‍🫲🏽 BPD
Emotional Disregulation

[real frigate]

NAILED IT

[lone dagger]

[balmy bough]

i have BAAAD dysregulation...

hence the lorazepam 😉

two of those, and i fizzle out in a few minutes into dreamless dream-land 😉

[lone dagger]

Sedatives really help so much. It's no wonder that people get addicted to them, especially with how underdiagnosed a lot of these things go now.

I look forward to a future where we acknowledge everyone's unique brain chemistry and cater to them.

Don't know if that will ever happen in my lifetime, though.

.....

Scroll and read, my dude.

[balmy bough]

worst is that i don't sleep without meds. was trazadone, now mirtazapam

WTF???

[lone dagger]

Excuse me, my dude. What are we doing here?

[static schooner]

your only three messages on this server aren't a good start....

[real frigate]

Why would someone jump UNDER a bridge?

[balmy bough]

thank you 🙂

[iron granite]

Gone with the wind...

[real frigate]

Ah man... we couldn't have fun with him first?! lol

Now I'll never know how to jump under a bridge!!!

[iron granite]

Don't play with prey

[lone dagger]

Jumped in to attack not only a community member but an admin.

Like wtf is wrong with you are you good, bro???

[balmy bough]

i am good, just a little startled

[lone dagger]

[lone dagger]

hahaa not you, them. That was definitely unacceptable.

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/pp-gif-23374344

[balmy bough]

ok

[lone dagger]

It's like they created a new account just to join and attack people talking in here, lol.

(And I don't doubt that's exactly what just happened.)

[balmy bough]

lol, called me an old man... Respect your elders kiddo 🤣

[iron granite]

That effort was rewarded immediately

[real frigate]

I respect and endorse this comment. lol

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-kicking-child-pool-gif-24140501

[real frigate]

How did you get video of me at the pool???

[static schooner]

at least the kid has his water wings on

[iron granite]

I'M SANT-MAN! 🎅

[balmy bough]

well that certainly crimped the conversation... 😉

[iron granite]

[glacial knot]

step 1: Actually go to a psychiatrist to get diagnosed
Step 0: Have you parents do that while young enough to actually be able to help D:

[balmy bough]

i was diagnosed by a psych...

[lone dagger]

I disagree with Step 0. While, yes, it's REALLY good to have and I am grateful I am that to my son, getting help at any age is 100% worth it.

I was diagnosed 2 years ago, y'all. I spent my entire adult life with a bipolar II diagnosis.

[glacial knot]

It's better than none. But some things just go by undetected in adults way more

[lone dagger]

BUT conceding to your first point, it's really hard to do, and that is why instead of gating people's self-diagnoses, I help them find the skills that work for them.

[balmy bough]

at 6yrs, they just thought i was depressed...

[lone dagger]

The diagnosis is great to cut red tape, not...much else.

(I bet none of you expected to get a full on conversation about mental health going today, did you?)

[real frigate]

I was diagnosed at 8, then again at 22 and then again at 46. It's done nothing for me except that I don't have to explain to a doctor why I am the way I am.

They never gave me a card to carry in my wallet either. Bastards. lol

[lone dagger]

We can make our own.

[glacial knot]

yea, depends on the specific diagnosis as well
/me still hasn't gotten better with the anxiety issues
OTOH depression was easy to medicate. And ADHD is a good to know for self view and meds can regulate as well

[lone dagger]

Anxiety is the worst to control.

Sometimes you don't even know what is causing it subconsciously, and without knowing its source you can't actually control it.

[real frigate]

DO IT! TAKE MY MONEY!

[glacial knot]

oh, mine's mostly social anxiety. Knowing what it is and what causes is does nothing to help with it 🤷

[balmy bough]

i have a wristband from MyID that says Autism, but no wallet card

[real frigate]

Wait what? Really???

[lone dagger]

Lamictal helps my swings while reducing my anxiety, Seroquel reduces my anxiety so that I can sleep without my brain working in overdrive, Strattera helps reduce the anxiety around task completion, and then when none of that works, I have clonazepam.

[balmy bough]

yes really

[lone dagger]

Not true! Social anxiety is...kind of easier to deal with, ime. That's the one you have to remind yourself, "Once I do this, it will be done, and it will be fine, just shut up, lizard brain."

[iron granite]

I had to fight through an anxiety disorder some time ago. Every phone ringing triggered a panic attack (had to put my mobile into silent mode) and had to stop and vomit when coming near a certain place. No fun

[lone dagger]

Constant cognitive behavior therapy for that one.

[glacial knot]

Pfft, if it was that easy, I wouldn't even consider them an issue

[lone dagger]

That's the secret. It really is that easy. On paper.

In practice????

Absolutely not.

[glacial knot]

Nice. Did you actually manage to vomit? My stomach just locks up, but I never get the relief vomiting brings when it's a stomach bug

[tidal bronze]

Almost there.

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-sad-mapache-tristeza-animals-gif-24316793

[tidal bronze]

Bad lumbar support

[iron granite]

Not enough trash

[orchid rose]

raccoons are spineless creatures

[lone dagger]

Let me tell you about my early disc degeneration.

[tidal bronze]

Nothing Dynamic lumbar support can't fix it

[real frigate]

Damn... you are just literally falling apart, aren't you?! hahaha

[tidal bronze]

Ha

[lone dagger]

I’m allergic to celery, developed two years ago. So yes.

[balmy bough]

<-- has degenerative disk disease, too

[lone dagger]

TWINSIES

🤩

[iron granite]

We should look at our logs for error messages

[real frigate]

Mushrooms are my sworn enemy. 100% allergic to them, so I totally understand.

[tidal bronze]

No soffritto for you. 🙄

[real frigate]

Actually triplets... I have no cartilage between my L3/L4 vertebrae. 🙂

[balmy bough]

now that you mention it:
Can't connect to ESPHome API for emporiavue2 🤣

[lone dagger]

I had back surgery 18 months ago for an L4/L5 protrusion. They told me about 8 months prior that my L5/S1 had already fused and that’s why I get tailbone pain.

[real frigate]

bro... you still have errors in your hoass instance? 🤣 (or should that be ho ass? 🤔)

[real frigate]

I had implantible electrodes put into my lower back years ago... I'm a walking TENS unit lol

[iron granite]

I'm kind of glad, it isn't called HASS anymore. That word would translate to hate here.

[balmy bough]

well, it's been fun, but i gotta eat and then toss and turn for a few hours.... and maybe sleep

[real frigate]

I'm glad I stopped using HASS then.

[real frigate]

Take it easy 🙂

[balmy bough]

maybe i will have a role level when i log back on.. 😉 😉 🤣

[forest edge]

don't you already have role level "0"?

[static schooner]

sounds like Missy may accept drugs for a role

[real frigate]

TIL that there is no celery emoji.

[lone dagger]

I’m also allergic to pineapple, mango, apricot, and kiwi fruit. More options for you!

[forest edge]

whats that? you are allergic to air?

[neon hawk]

i am allergic to a few things, strawwberries being one, and thats the only thing I am allergic to that I like

i like to play Russian Roulette with a punnet of them and see how many i can eat before my arms go itchy

[lone dagger]

“How far can I go before I need my epipen?”

My game.

OH AND EEL. I’m allergic to eel.

[neon hawk]

eel now thats an odd one

on the tests they did for me they did "shellfish" and that was one of the biggest reactions i had

[forest edge]

oxygen, water and dirt.. only three small things

[real frigate]

I have the super fun penicillin allergy. That was great growing up before they came out with the alternatives. And eel?! Ugh, that's sad... my favorite pet ever was a tesslata eel that I named Lace.

[tidal bronze]

Really?

[real frigate]

But are there emojis for ALL those things? 🍍 🥭 [no apricot] 🥝 Ok, there is 3 out of 4... you need to stop being allergic to apricot or make a custom emoji for it.

[ocean oar]

Hey me too

[real frigate]

Oh that's horrible... Once I outgrew being Jewish, I started eating shellfish and loved it ever since. 🤣

[real frigate]

Which part??? The penicillin alergy or the eel as a pet?! lol

[tidal bronze]

Apricot and kiwi meh, but pineapple and mango?

[ocean oar]

yes

But the penicillin

[real frigate]

lmfao...

[neon hawk]

allergies can fuck off

[ocean oar]

We do have eels in the stream at the bottom of our property, but they're not pets, per se

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/eel-mentally-fish-pun-gif-1854041509306605219

[tidal bronze]

Oh no

[real frigate]

The penicillin one is bad for me... I'm allergic to it and all derivatives of it. A doctor prescribed cipro for me once and I just looked and stared at him like "really?".

[ocean oar]

Check out this longboi:

[tidal bronze]

Looks like sauce

[forest edge]

time to sterilize the stream

[real frigate]

That was my tesslata eel.

[neon hawk]

how many electric eels would you need to power an 8266?

[real frigate]

ooohhhh is that an electric eel? Or just the common freshwater one?

[ocean oar]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_longfin_eel

[real frigate]

LOVE IT

[ocean oar]

The one perhaps-downside is there are a LOT of one-legged ducks in the stream too...

[forest edge]

right up there with keeping spiders as pets

[real frigate]

lol hell no...

I had a 200g saltwater predator tank for a while... WAY better than spiders

[tidal bronze]

3 less than a 32

[lone dagger]

Yes. That was actually the first one that I developed as an adult. My husband introduced me to sushi (land-locked Colorado does not really have sushi) and he love unagi. The first time I got a really bad headache with it, so I wrote it off as from the sake. The second time my tongue swelled up, so...no unagi for me. 😦

[lone dagger]

Pineapple is my favorite fruit, I hate that I can't eat it.

[forest edge]

yuck

[lone dagger]

I am a pineapple on pizza lover.

But can't eat it anymore.

It's a cruel irony.

[forest edge]

blasphemy

https://tenor.com/view/the-power-of-christ-compels-you-gif-21331185

[real frigate]

https://tenor.com/bMgqY.gif

pineapple on pizza is a blight upon the world.

[neon hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/shadowrealm-get-out-jeansbowl-gif-25245055

[lone dagger]

[real frigate]

Oh, wow... so that's an unpopular opinion?! Out of all the other unpopular opinions I have???

[forest edge]

no you were right.. those people should be whipped and shamed

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-got-shame-nun-gif-4969023

[real frigate]

bwahaha! YES. I knew I had it right... lol

[tidal bronze]

Just for pineapple?

[forest edge]

its gross and on pizza? come on now

[tidal bronze]

Pineapple makes everything better.

What would Picanha be without pineapple

[forest edge]

you feel better after eating it and vomiting immediatly after?

[lone dagger]

It's not unpopular, but I just have more power than you do here.

[forest edge]

https://images7.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED946/61339701417ae.jpeg

[tidal bronze]

Something tells me you are pretty lightweight when it comes to food. Lol vomiting after eating when you are 3 makes sense, not when you are 71.

[lone dagger]

Well. Imma UM ACKSUALLY here. If you are vomiting up something you just ate, you are probably allergic to it.

Source: Almost all of my reactions.

🤣

[tidal bronze]

Leave the barn, take the greyhound, try a pineapple

[ocean oar]

That's how I found out I was allergic to crustaceans

12 hours worshipping the porcelain god in a motel bathroom

[forest edge]

it's like animals who just know when to not eat something.. you were just born without that instinct

[tidal bronze]

You mean eating anything and everything, just going back to the roots. Keeping it simple and real.

[forest edge]

coming from someone who eats NOTHING that dosen't come from the sea lol

[real frigate]

Not if it’s on a pizza.

[tidal bronze]

It's just pizza.

[real frigate]

Hahaha power tripping. I’m supportive of this. lol

[tidal bronze]

That reminds me, must have a pizza one of these days. It's been months.

With pineapple

[real frigate]

With pineapple on it. Where does it end? lol let’s just throw all the fruits on there.

[tidal bronze]

All about choices and options

[real frigate]

Some things should not exist in this universe. I stand by that statement.

[tidal bronze]

Pineapple on cauliflower crust pizza. Just amazing

[forest edge]

then go get yourself a fish pizza

[tidal bronze]

Have you had king crab pizza?

[forest edge]

I said fish

[lone dagger]

I am here for this level of chaos.

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-gif-20076210

[tidal bronze]

Not nice to throw a pineapple in the fire and sit back with the popcorn.

[forest edge]

https://i.imgflip.com/42kfgy.jpg

[tidal bronze]

Time to open a another cabernet

[lone dagger]

Okay but hear me out. I don't like Canadian bacon, but I love a meat heavy pizza with some pineapple on it.

I think Hawaiian pizza is an afront, lmao.

[forest edge]

regardless what other toppings you may have.. the second the pineapple touches the pizza it's heading for the trash

[tidal bronze]

45 minutes till my almond and coconut flour bread is ready. Let's talk pineapple

[forest edge]

see it's no wonder he likes pineapple.. I think he lost his taste buds somewhere around 37k feet

[tidal bronze]

Most aircrafts now got mile high carbin pressure, so no double salt etc etc. You talking crap about Denver now?

[lone dagger]

I grew up there, so I get to talk shit.

😄

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge making some avocado toast with chilli crisp eggs. Want some?

[forest edge]

no not in need of an enema

[neon hawk]

American bacon is just like the scraps left on the floor in a European Butchers shop

[static schooner]

here's how I imagine QF's life:

• Flying
• Eating
• Cooking things to eat later

[neon hawk]

its what we throw away or give to the dogs

[forest edge]

this assessment from looking at a picture?

[ocean oar]

Agreed. Problem imho is it's a combination of all sweet ingredients.
Adding jalapenos or something else contrasting changes the game considerably.

[neon hawk]

life long European and visited USA a couple of times

[forest edge]

lol couple of times

[tidal bronze]

1 and 2 yes sir. At home, I don't eat anything from the fridge though. Same day or cook. You forgot to insert wine in there. 😆

[neon hawk]

https://www.philipdennis.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/a546c9971582630c03e20534aea895a1/7/1/716e40fce7e6b7360f6506285f420004.jpg

[primal laurel]

I visited NYC so I guess you could say I have 'visited the US' too

[forest edge]

yea bacon comes in very many diffrent forms here.. you probably just got some vending machine experince and think everything is the same lol

[neon hawk]

okbuddy!

must be!

[tidal bronze]

You mean he had half a Lunchable

[forest edge]

pretty much

[neon hawk]

USA! USA! USA!

[tidal bronze]

Sounds about right.

[forest edge]

like @umbral cliff who makes blanket judgement on America cause he knows someone who's looked at a world map once

[neon hawk]

coolstorybro!

[tidal bronze]

It's hard to judge any place, unless you travel for food.

All depends on where you had the meal.

[lone dagger]

Pot? Have you met kettle?

😝

[tidal bronze]

2 in EU. So

[lone dagger]

I don’t like how thin most bacon is here. Thick cut all the way.

[forest edge]

come away from the coast line

[umbral cliff]

I think that joke is lost on Sonoma

[forest edge]

the swine gets thicker

[forest edge]

just didn't make sense

[lone dagger]

Honestly I took a chance knowing it might go over people’s heads.

🤣

[neon hawk]

i think they fall into the 52% of Americans that do not have a passport;)

[lone dagger]

It means you are making a blanket statement about someone else.

[umbral cliff]

I got it
Am I boomer enough to know this

[forest edge]

I got the joke, bnut the assumption it's based on was wrong lol

[tidal bronze]

Here comes ananas

[sacred pecan]

Wow, I've just joined the server, and I already have a fanbase 😊

[primal laurel]

Just stop eating cheese from a can

[tidal bronze]

Cheese in a can?

[lone dagger]

Your words were

makes a blanket judgement on America
While making a blanket judgement on another human.

[forest edge]

wasn't a blanket tho, it was his own words lol

[lone dagger]

I’m not talking about Cal.

lol

I’m talking about snowy.

[forest edge]

not sure how that fits as a blanket either

[lone dagger]

Well now I’m glad that I can’t eat it! 😆

[tidal bronze]

Anyone tried the pineapple coring thingee from tiktok?

[primal laurel]

TikTok

[lone dagger]

This isn’t saying an assumption based on a single sentence you read? Because it definitely reads blanket statement to me.

[forest edge]

yea no.. i don't see that as a blanket statement

[lone dagger]

You might not see it that way, but it comes across as one.

[forest edge]

using his own words to discribe what "american bacon" is like.. one can only assume a vending machine lol

[lone dagger]

And that you need to be aware of.

[neon hawk]

I flew all the way to NYC just to goto Burger King in the airport just to say the bacon was shit, in an effort to spite people on the internet years later 😉

[forest edge]

see

[neon hawk]

oh and also be careful gendering people u dont know 😉

[sacred pecan]

wow, sonomagts really has strong opinions about various foods :o

they better like pineapple on pizza though

👀

otherwise…

[primal laurel]

Have you driven 2km to walmart in an F150 though?

[forest edge]

all in favor of pinnable on pizza type 1

[neon hawk]

with a bald eagle on my shoulder while firing an AR 15

[primal laurel]

Yeaaaaaaah

[forest edge]

not seeing many 1's lol

[tidal bronze]

Whether you had airport burgers or whether you had a airline comped meal really doesn't count since you visited a spec of land and came to a conclusion. Without stating you are from EU state you are from I will also give my opinion about your food.

[neon hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/superman-joke-gif-7319521

[tidal bronze]

Thought so.

On to the next.

[sacred pecan]

1! 1!

[tidal bronze]

1!

[umbral cliff]

Ew
But also am mildly allergic to pineapple so that's my defence

[forest edge]

still hearing crickets

[umbral cliff]

Try living in a city

[forest edge]

replace with rats?

[lone dagger]

1

[sacred pecan]

or stopping the spotify ambient playlist nod nod

[tidal bronze]

Pineapple winning

[sacred pecan]

🫡 🍍

[forest edge]

3 people in a server that houses how many @lone dagger ?

such yuge number for pinnapple pizza

[tidal bronze]

Numbers homes numbers

[primal laurel]

I say 1 to support missy

[sacred pecan]

It's a bit sad custom emotes are forbidden here, I have so many fruity ones :o

[lone dagger]

Well, you’re assuming everyone pays attention to this channel, let alone the server, and currently active. We gotta crunch the numbers!

[umbral cliff]

So ping everyone?

😛

[lone dagger]

EMERGENCY POLL

[tidal bronze]

Pineapple poll

[ocean oar]

Don't pretend that this isn't the most important channel in the whole server

[forest edge]

go for it.. i'm ready for a good laugh

[lone dagger]

Omg that is awful

[tidal bronze]

You do accept mail in votes right?

[lone dagger]

Terrible gif lol

[lone dagger]

Absolutely. Dated day of, we accept up to 3 days after closing of polls.

[umbral cliff]

No that's #installation-archived

[umbral cliff]

Can we make it 60 days to account for international postage

[lone dagger]

This is actually one of the more active channels.

[forest edge]

I take credit for that.. you are welcome

[lone dagger]

OH yeah sure. Customs can mess a lot up.

[tidal bronze]

We are missing our pizza afficionado

Need his take on this.

[lone dagger]

[forest edge]

you talking about the raw whale blubber on uncooked dough viking?

[umbral cliff]

You mean atx?
He has uncooked mincemeat not dough

[lone dagger]

🤣

Btw, any US plains people here? Like…find shelter, storms are coming…

NWS labeling it high risk for tornadoes, which is not great.

[forest edge]

lol plains people

[tidal bronze]

Not only that he uses fiber blades in his mincer, since 1980.

Steel when out of fashion in 79

[forest edge]

lets just hope those storm cut a hard left before coming too far north

I hear california could use the rain

[lone dagger]

It doesn’t look like it’s going TOO far north.

[tidal bronze]

Let not your heart be troubled. West coast will be just fine.

[lone dagger]

But I have a friend in the red zone so I figured I’d be alarming in here too. 😆

[forest edge]

every year is the same.. you eventually just meh

[lone dagger]

Not every year has an unstable polar vortex and unusually hot ocean temps causing interesting interactions over the plains, though. This year is already shaping to be…intense.

[forest edge]

lived here my whole life.. it's always been this way

[lone dagger]

Yep. Tornadoes in February in Wisconsin are an every year occurrence.

Your lived experience doesn’t equal what’s currently happening.

[forest edge]

whats currently happening?

https://tenor.com/view/twister-movie-helen-hunt-bil-paxton-cow-gif-17038107

[lone dagger]

Cow

Another cow

Haven’t watched that in ages.

[tidal bronze]

Time to get on that and explore

[forest edge]

global warming so far hasn't changed how tornados are around here. one might make an argument that there has been an increased chance of them but trust me.. this is no diffrent

[forest edge]

can't.. i'm allergic

[static schooner]

I think the flying cow was the most memorable part of that movie. It was a meme before they were a thing

[lone dagger]

I mean climate scientists say it’s different and Imma listen to them.

[forest edge]

well recorded history speaks for itself

[tidal bronze]

Why do you guys record it. It's history all day everyday

[umbral cliff]

To busses? Or people?

[forest edge]

all the above

[umbral cliff]

Yeah showing hotter years every year in the 2000s

[forest edge]

talking about tornados

no argument from me over it's impact on our winters

not sure we even got snow this last year lol

I grew up with snow being on the ground from early november to almost may

[primal laurel]

Statistics is exactly the opposite of trust me bro

[tidal bronze]

Unless you are Dubai

[forest edge]

when F5's and greater start coming more common then you can say things are diffrent lol

[tidal bronze]

Forget the Tornadoes. Let's address the issue of Costco not carrying alcohol

[umbral cliff]

They do in Australia

[primal laurel]

https://www.weather.gov/lmk/niu_tornado_frequency_study

Easy to look up

[tidal bronze]

Here too but not in middle earth

[forest edge]

read the bottom two paragraphs

[primal laurel]

It's a study published by nature...

[forest edge]

I already stated above one could argument that there is an increased torndao chance but as I also stated.. currently.. nothing is any diffrent

[lone dagger]

Uh they do here. 😬

[forest edge]

infact I would argue we had more torandos when I was younger than we have had in the past 40 years or so

[primal laurel]

Have any data to back that up?

[forest edge]

sure there is a tornado listing somewhere

they only count the ones that actually touch down.. not these prescare shit you always see news going on about

[umbral cliff]

You're in New Zealand?
Then just go to a bottle shop instead of Costco anyway
Better wines there probably better spirits

[primal laurel]

Well find it, collect the data, and prove your point

[forest edge]

didn't you claim you were some kind of researcher? you are the laziest one I have ever seen

[lone dagger]

He provided his side.

Now your turn.

This is basic debate.

Have hard data to back yourself up.

[forest edge]

no thanks.. not about to holds someone's hand through another lithium batteries actually can ignite thing

[umbral cliff]

Don't think they taught that when Sonoma was in primary school in 1936

[forest edge]

he posted a single study that wasn't even accredited or endorsed

come on now

[neon hawk]

btw I never did ask - just how many European countries have you visited?

[umbral cliff]

I don't think Sonoma has left his state

[forest edge]

tornados to visited eu?

wtf

[primal laurel]

It's a nature climate science article. Literally the most well peer reviewed source you can find

[neon hawk]

I wouldn't like to make such a sweeping statement until I saw some facts 😉

[forest edge]

what is going on here?

[umbral cliff]

I think it's a separate line of conversation

[neon hawk]

I think you are getting called out

[forest edge]

I think some just don't like being called out lol

[umbral cliff]

Pot kettle black

[primal laurel]

As always, nothing new here

[umbral cliff]

@lone dagger get to use it again

[forest edge]

hey not my fault he compared a vending machine bacon to all of america

not sure what that has to do with me traveling to europe tho

[lone dagger]

First, snowy said stop assuming gender.

[neon hawk]

these are things u invented

[forest edge]

or what it has to do with stefan comparing apples to oranges

[lone dagger]

So stop saying HE

Second, you’re arguing with peer reviewed articles.

[forest edge]

how?

[winged obsidian]

What are you doing? Trying to make me panic?

[lone dagger]

With self anecdotal evidence.

[forest edge]

post proof

[umbral cliff]

Sonoma would argue with a brick wall if he thought that bricks couldn't form a wall

[lone dagger]

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41612-018-0048-2.pdf

It was literally in the article shared.

[forest edge]

https://www.weather.gov/lmk/tornado_list

all the proof

you seek

of every comment i have made

[primal laurel]

That's just a list of tornadoes, not statistics

[forest edge]

I just lived here my whole life for quite some time.. what would I know of what has actually happend.. surely those who don't live here know more than me..

[winged obsidian]

You were talking only about Louisville, Kentucky?

[neon hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-argh-seal-shocked-shookt-gif-17018649

[forest edge]

good catch.. the overall is posted there too

[primal laurel]

Does your ass spread to every corner of the tornado hotzones?

[lone dagger]

Alright, this weather talk is done. Sonoma doesn’t want to listen to scientists, we’re running into a wall. Ending it.

[neon hawk]

ok can we blame the Brotherhood of Steel now

[lone dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/winnie-the-pooh-hungry-yummy-nom-nom-hangry-gif-12370976588218762850

My husband is making spaghetti.

[umbral cliff]

That's not pie
Your gif lies

[lone dagger]

OMG I DIDN’T SEE THE TEXT LOL

[umbral cliff]

😂😂

[lone dagger]

Fucking giphy I swear.

[neon hawk]

first pineapple on pizza now spaghetti pie

why do u HATE Italians so much?

[winged obsidian]

Googling "spaghetti pie" produces some really gross looking middle-earthen recipes.

Oof: https://www.food.com/recipe/hawaiian-spaghetti-218162

[umbral cliff]

That just looks like Asian noodles tbh

[winged obsidian]

Unsurprising considering Hawaii.

[primal laurel]

There some really cursed AI generated videos of will smith eating spaghetti

[ocean oar]

It looks a lot like terrible pseudo-Asian takeaway "sweet and sour pork" with pasta rather than noodles

[neon hawk]

no spoilers on the TV show cos i have not watched all of it yet - what do u guys make of the Fallout series?

[umbral cliff]

Never watched it
I presume it's people falling out of objects right
/S

[winged obsidian]

I've watched a few episodes. It's good because missing major plot points doesn't interfere with the entertainment. Don't watch it too closely.

[neon hawk]

its the first computergame / TV show cross over show i have enjoyed

[neon hawk]

yeah exactly - its that vaults story....

[lone dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/yum-yummy-patrickstar-starfish-eat-gif-868938898087734608

[winged obsidian]

Disclaimer: I've never played fallout either.

[neon hawk]

and with that idea - they could carry on making series based on other vaults

if u have played the games - its a treat cos of the sets - costumes - sound effects etc

theres posters on the walls that I have on My walls at home 😉

[winged obsidian]

The dude/creature with no nose reminds me of Yul Brynner in the original Westworld.

[neon hawk]

yes The Ghoul

they are a major "race" in the games

[lone dagger]

The Witcher was a great game to TV one, too.

[winged obsidian]

Do ghouls in the game all have Southern accents?

[neon hawk]

not all but I think Hancock - one of the main ones in F4 talks like a pirate 😉

[lone dagger]

I haven’t seen Last of Us but apparently that’s amazing too.

[winged obsidian]

Good, yes. Amazing, I'd have to say no.

[neon hawk]

i have both these series downloaded - will get round to them one day

[ocean oar]

Ha, yeah me too. Can't really be arsed starting watching anything new right now though. Re-watching old favourites like Fringe instead

[neon hawk]

I had just finished the latest Fargo then Fallout was released so I jumped on it

[winged obsidian]

Fargo is closer to great, but hard to generalize because the seasons are so different from each other.

[forest edge]

with that i agree i am done ith the eather stuff

[neon hawk]

yes, I have liked every series - I think the Kirsten Dunst series and the last ones were two of the best

[winged obsidian]

Seeing Juno Temple in the last season right after Ted Lasso was very, very weird. I was surprised at how good she was.

[lone dagger]

Didn’t need the last word once I ended it. Listen to the mods when they say something is done.

[neon hawk]

oh YES Juno Temple is amazing in Fargo - Ted Lasso well erm I just cannot get into that

[lone dagger]

I’ve never played the game so all I know of is word of mouth. 😅

[neon hawk]

<huge Fallout nerd 😉

and i am loving it that people that never played the games are into the show

one day maybe there will be an ESPHome Pipboy build 😉

[lone dagger]

My husband has the collector’s Pip!

WE MAY HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT

[neon hawk]

its possible....

[lone dagger]

It is!!

It’d be a really fun project.

[neon hawk]

well Randy and Keith are into Fallout also...

[lone dagger]

That is not surprising lol.

[neon hawk]

its always us Hardware guys 😉

[lone dagger]

I can only abuse you all for one project at a time, though!

First we tackle the Echos. 🤣

[neon hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-echo-hello-gif-25975698

[umbral cliff]

Ugh wifi has died in the office
I'm now struggling on 1 bar of 4G lol

[neon hawk]

sounds like home time to me

[lone dagger]

Sharing here just to amplify, Hannah’s work is something I truly respect and would love to see someone pick it up. https://github.com/alt-text-org/in-need-of-adoption

[lone dagger]

This is exactly what I do when stuff I use for work goes down. Oh nooooooo, guess I can’t work!!

[neon hawk]

does Paulus come in here?

[lone dagger]

Probably?

Me. Not caring. 🤣

Look honestly all I did when that would happen at Microsoft is talk shit with other employees about how things were broken.

Work doesn’t happen anyway. 🤣

[neon hawk]

I have had this at a few places - one place I just went home and sort of never came back into the office for 5 months

i would go in for meetings and chats then just roll on home

[lone dagger]

The worst thing that’s happened to me at Nabu Casa so far is I couldn’t join a meeting.

And that was the day I switched to a Mac.

[neon hawk]

its just doesnt work!

[lone dagger]

I’m watching an episode of Teen Titans Go with my son as he waits for dinner. During a renovation to their tower, the bad guy who showed up is a government man who literally ties them up in red tape. So Robin says the only thing that government employees listen to is money and hands the dude a fat stack.

We’re teaching them early. 🤣🤣🤣

[winged obsidian]

Time to show https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_(1985_film) to your son.

[lone dagger]

That’s a hell of a line up for a movie I’ve never heard of. 😂

[neon hawk]

i remember seeing this when i was 11 orso - its bloody insane

[lone dagger]

Gilliam is great though.

[neon hawk]

seen it a few times since

oh its FULL ON Gilliam

[winged obsidian]

If you've never heard of this movie, then my good deed for the day is done.

[umbral cliff]

Unfortunately work stuff is on desktop and wired in

Wifi is to browse Reddit and discord and procrastinate lol

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze fixed ya a plate.

[young sigil]

It's amazing. Just make sure you watch the right one. The final directors cut. Not the Love Conquers All version.

[static schooner]

After Adam Savage couldn't stop gushing about it I finally tried it a few years ago. It was...weird

Over the top, like a caricature

[prisma raft]

Hi, probably not the place for this, but does the 1GB RAM model of the Orange Pi Zero One seem like enough to run a NUT server on?

[forest edge]

considering there are plenty of guides of using older raspberry pi's with similar specs floating about I would assume it is a safe bet

[clear ferry]

NUT can run on a pi0 fine

If you only run NUT

[umbral cliff]

Morning atx

[prisma raft]

Yeah saw a couple showing specs in the 256MB range, but from a couple of years ago

[prisma raft]

Yep, only NUT. Setting up two UPS' so that my router and switch (separate rooms in the house) don't just drop dead when power cuts

[clear ferry]

I've run it on a pi zero w with 512mb ram and the UPS powering the pi itself

[prisma raft]

No noticeable performance issues?

[clear ferry]

I use it for my upstairs distribution switch

Nope

[prisma raft]

Thanks! I'm looking to run mine the same way

[clear ferry]

It reacts immediately, since I get a telegram notification when power cuts

[prisma raft]

That's good to hear, my implementation might even be a bit overkill with 1GB so I can probably scale the specs down a tad

[clear ferry]

I ran it like this

And a usb + phone charger in the ups

[forest edge]

your ups didn't come with a usb cable?

[clear ferry]

You mean a usb a to b cable?

[forest edge]

yea

not seen an ups not include one

[clear ferry]

A cable would just add complexity since I would need to hide the cable

Now the pi just sticks right into

[forest edge]

ah

[clear ferry]

Ah, on Wednesday I'm renting a car again and driving 3200km yet again

https://tenor.com/view/road-trip-gif-9183238338424129539

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/car-kick-fail-epic-fail-funny-gif-3412206

house md is so great

[clear ferry]

That's actually the distance from Seattle to Kansas City

And this is the second time I'm doing it in two weeks

[forest edge]

lies.. europe isn't that big

[clear ferry]

Hey, this is just Norway

[forest edge]

long road trips suck.. ass comes out flatter and hurting

[clear ferry]

Must be a US vehicle standard thing, I'm currently driving the worst of the worst in Europe, aka Peugeot and I'm fine

[forest edge]

maybe your rear end is just more use to a hard pounding lol

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-daddy-daddy-daddy-af-chew-gif-14733103

[glacial knot]

Which UPS are you going for? I still need to buy one as well...

[clear ferry]

I'm very happy with my powerwalkers

Cost nothing

1100va was €40 and 2400va was $70

Still waiting for a customer to throw out something rack mountable i can replace the batteries of

But I have very few customers small enough to have rack mount ups

[forest edge]

don't those batteries need to be replaced every 3 or so years?

at some point something cheaper really isn't "cheaper" anymore

[ocean oar]

Lol, same problem. I could easily get a 150, 200, or 275kVA unit that work would be replacing, but would I really want it?

The big ones have 3.5 tons of batteries each 😐

[clear ferry]

Exactly

Most of my customers have a dedicated ups room

[clear ferry]

I've had UPS go for a decade without replacing batteries

My current ones are 5 and 6 years old

The enterprise ones are usually hard coded with dates, but you can rewrite them

[forest edge]

aren't they agm?

[clear ferry]

Never seen that

[forest edge]

glad my anecdotal evidence proved to be spot on. sirens suck in the middle of the night

[forest edge]

aren't they normal battery in ups?

I guess these days more and more ould be lithium but holy hell the price jump lol

[clear ferry]

Mostly lead

[forest edge]

thats what agm is

[clear ferry]

No

AGM is gel

[forest edge]

But what does AGM stand for? AGM means absorbent glass mat and refers to the fine glass fiber separator between the positive and negative plates that helps absorb all the battery acid. AGM Batteries are advanced lead-acid batteries.

[clear ferry]

Yes, AGM / Gel is modern

Never seen that in UPS

Regular lead only

[solar zealot]

Lead? All the cool kids use the fireworks lithium

[forest edge]

maybe only in residential ups? I dunno.. i thought most were..

[clear ferry]

No idea

Never seen it marked with agm

[ocean oar]

Our aforementioned 3.5 tons is a 40S2P (480V nominal) set of these: https://www.csb-battery.com.tw/english/01_product/02_detail.php?fid=8&pid=136

[forest edge]

i've only ever seen one rack mounted ups and the battery compartment took up the whole thing. were huge proprietary batteries with their own specialized connections

[clear ferry]

That small customer stuff yes

[forest edge]

I think the lead-acid is refering to the agm since agm replaced the old style lead

[clear ferry]

Not really

Cost vs value

Lead acid is still king

This is the usual UPS' I see

[ocean oar]

Delicious flooded batteries 😄

[clear ferry]

Yaaas

[glacial knot]

economics of batteries is quite different when you don't have to care about weight, and get to handwave most health issues^^

[clear ferry]

I'm glad we stopped doing batteries inside servers

[ocean oar]

My favourite are the old style where they're completely open on the top, basically just a bucket with wires going into it

[clear ferry]

It is all capacitors now

[glacial knot]

That doesn't look like a gas turbine D:

[clear ferry]

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/gone-missionnsync-nsync-boyband-teamnsync-gif-25520813

[clear ferry]

That looks like the start of a 35mm movie

[forest edge]

this is the crap that baffles me https://youtube.com/shorts/xofM7rJPCYU?si=RactjKL9fD3L_bZC

[ocean oar]

Seen a bit in the news this week about sodium-ion batteries shipping commercially. Be interesting to see if that goes anywhere.
Looks like the energy density is fairly miserable, but by all accounts near zero safety issues and ridiculous charge/discharge rates.
https://newatlas.com/energy/natron-sodium-ion-battery-production-startt/

[forest edge]

sounds expensive

[ocean oar]

Quite likely

[clear ferry]

Sodium actually

that's fun

[forest edge]

just get a flywheel battery

[last cedar]

Same in our alarm/ door entry stuff

[ocean oar]

What I find interesting is one of the things they're pitching is load shifting for EV charging sites.
Because you can charge/discharge it so quickly, could charge the cars at ~150kW or whatever they need these days, but spread out the load drawn from the grid.

Starting to see a lot of that sort of thing lately, like this induction stove that has a battery, so you can have a 10kW output power on a 1.8kW North American power outlet:
https://www.impulselabs.com/
Only need it for a short amount of time to heat things from cold to boiling, at which point the power requirements would go way down. So makes a lot of sense.

[last cedar]

What about the 17 course meals that take days to eat?!

[forest edge]

silly racoon.. you don't eat cooked meals

[last cedar]

I can if I want to

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-raccoontema-temaraccoon-waschbär-schinken-gif-20927399

[forest edge]

no such thing as toasted trash.. it's either burnt to ash or it's still paper/cardboard

[clear ferry]

reverse EV charging has been mentioned a lot here, since 92% of all cars sold now are EV @ocean oar but no standard yet

[ocean oar]

Days to eat???

I'm on board with days to cook (sous vide), but damn

[last cedar]

There is an iso number for it, at least

[grand onyx]

Is there any Android app available to backup my phone to a smb nas when am at home

[clear ferry]

What on your phone?

If just camera stuff, I've setup next cloud to do that automatically whenever I take a picture or video

But you can do it for any folder on the phone I believe

[lone dagger]

@young sigil My husband actually gave a similar review. “It’s definitely Weird Gilliam.” 😂

[blazing musk]

Syncthing perhaps?

[neon hawk]

feels odd having a white name 😉

[neon hawk]

is that ED sheeran?

[lone dagger]

Seeing you in here with the white name made me think that maybe we need a role for ESPHome mods, too.

Not for special powers or anything, just so people can identify some other experts in the community.

[bitter pawn]

charlie chaplin getting served... wtf.

[clever mortar]

Badges for experts in other tech? Probably more useful than colours that'll all blur together.

[lone dagger]

Role icons are happening. 🙂

[grand onyx]

Ok I will check it out

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/its-happening-gif-23353691

[real frigate]

Role icons? 🤔 That actually sounds interesting!

[lone dagger]

[static schooner]

only if you pay for Nabu Casa cloud, right? 🙂

NC Nitro

[solar zealot]

Nitro Casa

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-yells-at-cloud-yelling-old-man-news-the-simpsons-gif-17741451

[last cedar]

Or if you are a raccoon 🦝

[low harness]

Oh my god! This has been killing me! https://tldr.fail/

Chrome released some new feature a week or two ago which makes connections fail for some servers.

You know... small hardly known servers by people who obviously don't know what they're doing. Like https://developer.mozilla.org/

Experimental features enabled by default. Yay!

...now for weeks of discovering all the exciting things that broke due to my attempts to fix this by following googles recommendations...

[lone dagger]

Following up our chatter yesterday in here.

[real frigate]

And she pulls us in again...

[blazing musk]

interesting, I see some assumed negotiation would never be more than a packet. Like... TCP is a stream, people, WTF?

[lone dagger]

Get in line for your meth, sir.

[real frigate]

I'm going to pass... we all know how bad I am OFF meth... could you really imagine me ON meth?! lmfao

[lone dagger]

Psh it’ll be fine.

[real frigate]

lol you say that now... I've had people threaten to beat me for just being me off drugs. hahaha

[lone dagger]

I can help you with your people skills, don’t worry.

🤣

[real frigate]

We're going to get along just fine then... except for when you throw your hands up and scream "I'M DONE BILL!" hahaha

[tidal bronze]

What is that? Potatoes and corn? Really?

[forest edge]

it's called.. food...

[lone dagger]

To your credit, you’ve already got more patience than others I’ve seen so maybe I won’t give up early. 😂

[forest edge]

@tidal bronzeyou should try it some time

[lone dagger]

Though I haven’t seen your actual posts on the forums yet….

[real frigate]

lol I'm the same way on the forums 🙂 But, I need to get back active over there... I've been slipping lately.

[lone dagger]

We did steal your attention over here with a shiny new role.

[tidal bronze]

That's 70's stuff. Ain't living in a museum

[forest edge]

lol 70's stuff

[tidal bronze]

Yes when people didn't know what sushi was about. 🤣

[forest edge]

you think your creatures from the sea is futuristic?

[tidal bronze]

Anyways, garlic butter tiger shrimp with pinot grigrio reduction should do it for today.

[lone dagger]

I am disappointed at the lack of options of "futuristic sea" in giphy.

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge since you complained yesterday flying out to Indianapolis to try out this steakhouse. Trying to mix in that turf.

[forest edge]

what steakhouse

[lone dagger]

Some nice lobster tail with a great steak.

[tidal bronze]

St. Elmo. A friend was raving about it. So....

[tidal bronze]

Are you talking about a steakhouse that offers, steak sauce, salt and pepper?

[forest edge]

that does look like your kind of steak house lol

nothing actually good.. but gives you the impression it is lol

[tidal bronze]

If they have steak sauce I am walking out. Lol.

[lone dagger]

I live on the west coast, and most places don’t offer the sauce (though I’m sure they have it for people who shudder need it). Imo, if it needs steak sauce, it wasn’t cooked right.

[forest edge]

that makes no sense, the steak sauce is usually just as custom as everything else

I don't normally use steak sauce but it makes no sense to judge something on that lol

budget variant of pixel is 500..

[real frigate]

People put sauce on steaks?! Heathens!

[forest edge]

how is it much diffrent than the rubs and spices/salt/pepper everything else that is already on it before it's served to you? lol

[real frigate]

MUCH different lol

Steak needs 3 things: Salt, pepper, and garlic powder. Sauce on a steak just kills the beef flavor, imho.

Oh wait... maybe butter too (but only for basting)

[forest edge]

lol everything added to it changes the flavor

[real frigate]

Yeah, true... but at a minimum salt and pepper is needed. Most of it gets burned off during the char though.

[lone dagger]

It's for sure a preference.

And in some cases a regional thing.

[real frigate]

like pineapple on a pizza? /ducking lol

🤢

[lone dagger]

I was raised as a sauce girl. My husband showed me I was eating rubber meat my whole life.

(My mom is a horrible cook.)

[real frigate]

I was a trained sous chef before I got into IT (many, MANY years ago). Spent too many years working at 4-5 star steakhouses. lol I got spoiled on really good quality cuts and prep types.

[forest edge]

i hate when people can't read the no soliciting sign

[real frigate]

Psh... my two 14 pound dogs scares off most of them. The best thing about a jack russel terrier... they are vicious when it comes to protecting their home. I just sit there and laugh like "how are you scared of a 14 pound dog?!"

[lone dagger]

FOR REAL. Our neighborhood has no solicitation signs all over.

[forest edge]

that comment made me think of the last spectrum tech I had come out.. he too was a cook prior to switching to getting into tech.. from cook to the dude who climbs the pole to fix people's cable.. what a diffrence lol

[lone dagger]

🙄

[forest edge]

he was afraid of heights too.. it hought that was so odd for him to get into a position that made him climb lol

[real frigate]

Yeah... and the way I did it was funny. I literally woke up one morning and said "screw it, I'm going to get into computers"... no experience beyond running a BBS at home. Quit my job as a chef and got an entry level IT tech job at Informix.

Wait what?! Ok, yeah, that's an odd career choice.

[forest edge]

yea. apparently he had made the switch like 6 years prior to us talking and I could still see him being scared on the ladder lol

[real frigate]

Huh... tbh, I always like stories like that though. He's doing something he [hopefully] loves now. Cooking was great, but I couldn't stand the day in, day out of coming home reeking of dirty oil and food.

[lone dagger]

I went to school to be a diesel mechanic and now I sit on the internet and talk to people all day.

[forest edge]

friend from high school has been a line cook since HS. he loves it for some reason.. i dunno why, always looked like he was dragged behind a vehicle for a few miles after his shift

[real frigate]

lol that's um... a diesel mechanic?! What on earth made you choose that?!

[lone dagger]

My mom was a teacher there and I got free school so I said wtf why not.

🤷‍♀️

I was better than most of the guys in my classes.

[real frigate]

huh... ok, that makes sense to me.

lol given your attitude to most things (what I know of it at least), that doesn't surprise me in the least.

[lone dagger]

It was a fun challenge.

Electric was awful to learn, circuits suck. But the mechanical side of things was always fun to do.

(This was also 20 years ago now....cars are so different, but diesel really isn't, lol.)

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/Tz-hWqdXRJY?si=GbEZEtqa8NR2Gc4Z

[tidal bronze]

Exactly! Sauce is sign of bad steak 😆

[tidal bronze]

Just as bad as asking for pineapple on pizza. Lmao.

I need to get better at using the calender. 🙄

[forest edge]

keep forgetting what year it is?

[primal laurel]

hey dont hurt my baby

[tidal bronze]

I was getting ready to head to the airport and supposedly my friend and his wife is coming for few days from Toronto. Oh well. I was informed in March. 🤣

[lone dagger]

I will die on the hill that electrical is awful. 🤣

[forest edge]

and you wonder why I don't want to visit you lol

[tidal bronze]

Come on now I would change all my flights for you.

I did a cluster this time. 2 of my buddies from SF flying to IND as well. All canceled. I don't know if I should feel bad.

[primal laurel]

you wont say that after you see my nixie tube project from college

[lone dagger]

[forest edge]

so you planned for some friends to come to LA and some to go to that steakhouse in ind?

lulz

[tidal bronze]

I never plan. That's the problem.

[forest edge]

you atleast paying for thier airfair?

[tidal bronze]

Life is too short for that.

Airfair? What's that. All my buddies got tons of miles. Rarely pay for anything.

[forest edge]

with your diet.. i can understand.. hahaha

[tidal bronze]

I think I am going to ask them to come to LA. Easier 😆

[primal laurel]

wut

[forest edge]

got enough guest rooms?

[lone dagger]

I’m just trolling you can ignore me. 😆

[tidal bronze]

Always.

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-fun-funny-sad-kevin-malone-gif-16434586

[tidal bronze]

@lone dagger so what city?

[lone dagger]

Redmond, outside of Seattle, WA.

[tidal bronze]

Ah Redmond 👌

[lone dagger]

[iron granite]

[tidal bronze]

MSFT ♥️

[lone dagger]

You’ll find I’m a little jaded lol.

[tidal bronze]

Not if you went in head 1st 6 or 7 years ago.

[lone dagger]

I worked for Microsoft in some capacity from 2012-2023.

I’ve seen a lot. 😂

[tidal bronze]

All I care about is the ticker. Internal affairs is not my thing.

[forest edge]

so memory is switching to a new form factor because of "sodimm is an old standard that just isn't competitive"

ohhhh gonna keep my eye on this. may be my next truck https://youtu.be/WqzApRm0nis?si=DjHJYGhjZtI7MeVd

[willow sundial]

I usually divide by 2 to guess what the range will be after 3-5 years. Still not bad.

[forest edge]

battery degrade even when you are not driving it is my biggest issue with buying an ev

[tidal bronze]

2hp is not working out for ya?

[ocean oar]

Presuming you're talking about LPCAMM2, it does seem to pass the sniff test for "necessity"; the signal lines on the board have to be so damn short for LPDDR5 that SO-DIMMs were just too physically large to work

Same thing with MR-DIMM for servers. You can't spread the RAM out on the motherboard far enough and maintain signal integrity, so doubling up (MR-DIMM is effectively quad data rate) is the only way to keep kicking that can down the road

[forest edge]

what would you know of horsepower? don't they measure vehicles by seahorse in california?

[glacial knot]

for a moment I thought that's Cal or atx making fun of burger units

[tired quarry]

Resistors guy is back

According to reading its around a 47k resistor which has Sense if It was a 4 band resistor but It seems to be a 5 band resistor with 5th band being a barely marked brown line

Still fighting with this, I dont have access to the pcb I am trying to repair

[winged obsidian]

According to reading its around a 47k

[late gate]

Its a bit off topic so migt fit here. Have anyone seen any custom magets to door sensors? For exmaple smaller, stronger/weaker, thin etc. The standard magnets that I see is always so bulky and very difficult to mount pretty to the sensor. I guess a magnet is a magnet so maybe it exist some magnets thats adjustable in dimentions?

[forest edge]

replacement magnets to contact sensors would be a waste of money considering the whole sensor is generally pretty cheap to begin with. you would be better off just searching for a contact sensor that has a magnet to your liking or build your own

[primal laurel]

sure, in principle you can take any permanent magnet you want. The sensor part is just a reed switch that responds to the presence of the magnetic field of the permanent magnet

[late gate]

so annoying I threw out all the old aquara sensors. They had a perfect size magnet

I have set with zb3 sensors and the magnets are huge

hm maybe this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Burglar-Alarm-Window-Contact-Detectors/dp/B0BSFV9R1T/ref=sr_1_5?crid=UMH51XYZKQ14&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.2KlLoJ9DZBLmi6qEIC-dmfHiOyyTf3V6182FRSpYp1SVEP4E5Ot5QBoKdxcfNE5ETn4UxxGB8NkroujLm_V8sDcFNUXfJwfj1N1Gctwn4m-GI1uzgQyQMNG6jOcGsRkoYPBY89T6YBx99lUSQhuh0Brzv0gbBT6LuS-BVapUOy7HIyO4zzUSiJMmfG9so1uMb2f1IqNTWMlsxtwOmtiq6buQCcdwZmzknWTW1sPgJQzW0YXOi6CAx5pD-H88-2w8RJMTcNMoxsO7MWaE96Cg3ItupWSkdDE6pNsb0xbVHIc.et7QnRnhOAsesd-sANfrVEZbdJPmw0HVQZpDm7pfVPU&dib_tag=se&keywords=Alarm+Door+Contact&qid=1715168341&sprefix=alarm+door+contact%2Caps%2C98&sr=8-5

[forest edge]

if this for a door you could get a neodymium magnet small enough to embed in the wood and as long as it was close enough/strong enough it wouldn't have to be placed in the same place as a traditional contact sensor magnet for it to trigger the reed switch

paint over it and all you would see was the sensor part

[clear ferry]

aqara sensor lyfe

wish they had a sensor strip like the zwave thingy

that one is perfect

[late gate]

I dont understand how you are so lucky with aqara? I have a feeling aqara is a lot of batches, and most ebay/ali is not passed QC, but some might be lucky

[forest edge]

what are you issues?

aqara is bad at the whole "mesh" aspect of zigbee.. once it's connected to the coordinator they don't speak to anything else even if it loses connection

learned that the hard way with the few that I have

[late gate]

I had issues enough with the mesh issues, by them falling out from time to time. In general I had much more issues in my old house case of solar panels (solar panels absolutly wrecked 2.4gz cause of the optimizers). Other than that they might work fine. I am testing two zb3 brands now, both sub of tuya. One looks pretty good, but not as small as aqauara as its using 2x aaa, the other one the cr battery, plus got possibility use use usb, though it looks much more plastic. The only issue with both is the larger contact

[forest edge]

Zigbee range is garbage, so as long as you keep that in mind during placement you can iron out alot of issues. if your coordinator dosen't have an external antenna then you gotta keep that in mind as well

I have a router device literally 5ft from the skyconnect dongle and it's strength is still bad lol

[late gate]

Somehow I would prefer to get recessed door and window sensors as the are an eyesore

idk how it is in the US, but windows/doors usually have quite a lot of padding so its hard to mount sensors flush

[clear ferry]

Layer 8

[forest edge]

I personally don't care about them sticking out but as I posted above you can customize your install

[clear ferry]

I have probably 45 aqara sensors / buttons, only one has broken in 6 years

[forest edge]

choke out the wifi.. thats the way to do it

[clear ferry]

I have.... 9? Active access points currently

[forest edge]

9?

wtf

lmao

[clear ferry]

All transmitting 2.4 and 5

My lab alone is 5 access points

[forest edge]

you showed us your house.. why do you have 9?

[clear ferry]

I have three on my desk currently

[forest edge]

lol wifi failover

[clear ferry]

Can do that too

With IPsec tunnels with different endpoints

[late gate]

ok the big question im curious. Do you install the sensor on the door / window part thats opening and the magnet on the non moving part, or oposide?