Well, I am invited to be part of a panel of subject matter experts in regards to forming political guidelines for it
#the-water-cooler
solar zealot
yes, they must absolutely understand that raspberry belongs into cakes and not computing gear
clear ferry
That sounds reasonable
solar zealot
🤝
primal laurel
I love raspberry pi
clear ferry
Disgusting
primal laurel
Yall just spoiled
solar zealot
trading $ against effective counting stones is overrated :^)
clear ferry
I just have standards 
iron granite
clear ferry
Jesus Christ I hate apple sometimes
Can't add an apple tv to homekit without an iPhone or iPad running iOS 16
solar zealot
sounds like an apple thing they also do for os restores now :^)
"thank you for spending your money, but fuck you for not spending more"
clear ferry
Like the wife said "I understand why apple people continue buying apple products, they have no choice"
solar zealot
pretty true
solar zealot
most funny to me is how they have that great backup system for macos
but it wont work like that for any other device they sell
gota pay that icloud money
primal laurel
Jesus Christ I hate apple sometimes
Sometimes? I hate apple all the time
clear ferry
dusky plank
Can't add an apple tv to homekit without an iPhone or iPad running iOS 16
whats the goal anyway?
there's little use in homekit for a appletv except you have apple devices and you want to remote control your home(kit) or you need your cameras on the appletv
I just finished setting up my new audi. Which I had for a month now. Software is crap.
PSA: don't buy audis
clear ferry
whats the goal anyway?
Pip notification from ha to atv, done through homekit
I stopped doing Audi's, they've only gotten worse and worse, and too expensive
clever mortar
My pre 2008 Audi A4 outlasted my neighbours 2018 Audi A4
clever mortar
Lots of body rot, engine issues, problems with the handbrake... it went on and on
clear ferry
My 1992 one was still great when I sold it in 2008
The 00 A8 I had was an utter nightmare
Only chance I'll ever buy an Audi again is if I found a pristine Audi C3 or B3
Just saw an article about an etron that the doors didn't work on , and the vendor said it was because they didn't open the doors correctly
Excuse me
dusky plank
Pip notification from ha to atv, done through homekit
setup a macos vm, comes with the home app too
orchid rose
Atx coming out as an Apple stan wasn't something I had on my bingo card. Disgusting
clear ferry
setup a macos vm, comes with the home app too
dusky plank
you will need scrypted to make that work, and pip notifications with video only work half the time anyway. appletv stupid dumb
tha audi e-trons drive excellent, their software is shit though which ruins the whole ux
clear ferry
And piss expensive compared to what you get
And you still have to pay monthly to have adaptive headbeams
dusky plank
I don't
clear ferry
It's extra here
Let me find the list
All of these are €1.5 per month each
I'll stick to Volvo for now, I did consider the Hongqi last time, but I wanted a hybrid
dusky plank
my leasing one seems to have all of these included
which makes the feature store in the app... pretty empty and useless
dusky plank
turns out the value drop from diving out the factory isn't that impactful anymore with evs, they basically have no maintenance and can theoretically drive forever
so I went with leasing
clear ferry
Yeah, EVs hold value well
My leaf is roughly 0 for me when I sell it
And it was almost new when i got it
I'm gonna replace it with a Volvo EX30 probably
primal laurel
meanwhile, my 20 year old bicycle with 150 euro maintenance done to it still going like a tank
gotta love dutch bikes
clear ferry
I got my Volvo €50k off because it was 3 years old
I pity people who buy new cars
👀
clever mortar
My current car was about 50% because it was a year old with 3K miles. My last car was a similar discount but had a shocking 110 miles on the clock after a year.
orchid rose
gotta love dutch bikes
So many things to dislike them for, least of which is them being Dutch and that's some bar
primal laurel
So many things to dislike them for, least of which is them being Dutch and that'...
like what?
orchid rose
Aerodynamics vs comfort
orchid rose
If you plan to ride the bicycle for more than 5 meters you really don't want to sit upright
orchid rose
My man hasn't ridden a proper bicycle that just caresses your balls just right
finite atlas
My pre 2008 Audi A4 outlasted my neighbours 2018 Audi A4
👀 i'm thinking about getting a pre 2008 audi a4 as my first own car
clever mortar
Mines a diesel and should still be chugging along in another 10 years
finite atlas
yeah, the one with the 1.9L tdi is the one i'm interested in
primal laurel
My man hasn't ridden a proper bicycle that just caresses your balls just right
I prefer my soft gel one
red rock
If you plan to ride the bicycle for more than 5 meters you really don't want to ...
hold my beer
I used to lay down on my bike with my elbows
but I stopped doing that
dusky plank
had to stop riding my fixie after kissing the tram rails earlier this year
clear ferry
finally got actual numbers for my rack
24h pull appears to be 20kwh
as I expected
and yesterday was 102kwh total
dusky plank
weak
forest edge
anyone do the pipup install on a google tv os?
red rock
the what
forest edge
i know there is a HA forum post about it, just asking if anyone in here has experince with it
red rock
Doesn't ring a bell
There currently is a PR for adding a new integration that does stuff with notifications on Android TV\
forest edge
android tv and google tv are kind of two diff things
red rock
https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/102361
"The TvOverlay integration allows to send notifications to Android/Google TV."
forest edge
not sure how that works. popup windows on google tv are disabled without a package like what I linked
least till google tv os 13
but we're on 12 atm
red rock
@hollow crater did test this afaik
I just have chromecast and a webostv so I never played with this
forest edge
chromecast if it's a newer one should have google tv os
hollow crater
Yep I did
red rock
I got it for free
Like I once bought a Stadia controller and got a chromecast with it
And then Google stopped Stadia, and I got my money back
forest edge
what do you mean by test? as in somehow the intergration allowed popups on google tv?
red rock
So now I have a free controller and chromecast
hollow crater
But I tested it on Android TV (waipu TV stick) so no Google TV
forest edge
ah
forest edge
its weird cause google makes both but google tv is suppose to be the successor to android tv yet they keep updating android tv and it retains some of the features google tv dropped
red rock
what are they shipping on new sony tv's?
forest edge
google tv
red rock
ah, if they still shipped android I would've guessed that they are obliged by contract
forest edge
I think you can specifically still get some newer tv's with android tv
slate garnet
Did not know that
Yeah.. sorry, what's the question. I didn't get it
Android TV vs Google TV ?
red rock
anyone do the pipup install on a google tv os?
this was the original question
and then I mentioned you worked on something similar
slate garnet
Both are same, just a ui changes in Google tv
forest edge
google tv dosen't have pip while android tv does
forest edge
supposedly google tv 13 is bringing back pip but right now we just got 12
pipup though is suppose to be pretty customizable which is why I was curious if anyone in here has done/using it
iron granite
Google Freebies
solar zealot
Does the hardware even work without the service?
iron granite
Google offered a firmware change. The costs for the controller have been reimbursed, you can keep the hardware and convert it to a regular Bluetooth controller
forest edge
its a bt controller i think
solar zealot
Oh that's at least something
iron granite
Before that, it was a WiFi controller, bound to the Stadia service
solar zealot
I thought I read about them all being waste, but just b2 is also fine I suppose
iron granite
It was quite a fair move. Bought games (except the subscription) and the hardware were fully reimbursed (if bought at Google).
forest edge
lots of myq sales this blackfriday/cyber monday for you fans out there lol
forest edge
I dunno why people even buy into those services.. every service like it in the past has failed
not even sure the nvidia one is still active
iron granite
I got the controllers for free anyway. Even before they shut it down.
solar zealot
Similar to renting a server is much cheaper than running yours locally in a lot of European places
Not sure why people would prefer it over a phone, but we just getting started on that with real games
primal laurel
Google Freebies
At least it's not e-waste
Might be a good controller for steamdeck docking station
forest edge
bt controllers are good for a lot of things. heck even D4 on PC was way better using a controller than mouse and keyboard
solar zealot
The best controller for the steam deck is a second steam deck 😉
primal laurel
bt controllers are good for a lot of things. heck even D4 on PC was way better u...
I play every from software game with a controller as well
clear ferry
<@457673488225009676> what have you done?+
As with HA I don't upgrade .0 releases of ZFS either
red rock
Agressive Install path C:\Users\jlekkerk\AppData\Local\Figma already exists, burning it to the ground
clear ferry
Sounds like I started designing applications
low harness
solar zealot
https://www.reddit.com/r/truenas/s/odNpbajsrn
where is the btrfs gang at :o
silent doveBOT
@clear ferry I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:
iron granite
come at me bot
glacial knot
where is the btrfs gang at \:o
Trying to restore their data
clever mortar
You joke, but I once saw Oracle's install script clean up all the temporary files it used, including /dev/null
Turns out that on that particular Unix version that could be done, and would persist after a reboot. Also turns out the OS wouldn't even reach single user mode with that missing...
red rock
Im HAifying my internship software lol
Oh we need to make a configurable frontend? In HA you can serialize everything and load custom content
Oh we need to call different backoffices? Let's make services of those calls and have people config it themselves
primal laurel
Im HAifying my internship software lol
Im working on heatpumps for my master thesis
apparently im required to open source the whole thing
gonna HAify it too
this reads like it was written by chatgpt
red rock
gonna HAify it too
As in, you have to make it public so you have to make it nice otherwise other people see you write shitty code?
red rock
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/185w3fz/bethesda_responding_to_negative...
Lol, for real
primal laurel
As in, you have to make it public so you have to make it nice otherwise other pe...
yeah, it's part of a research project which gets funding under the condition that produced results must become open source
red rock
Aah
glacial knot
Open money open source 💕
clear ferry
solar zealot
Trying to restore their data
💀
clear ferry
I thought Devs earned the big buxxxxx
glacial knot
Not students in their masters 😂
clear ferry
_laughs in no education _
red rock
Ah that explains
clear ferry
Explains why I'm actually good at my job and have a decent salary? I agree
fathom sparrow
I don't remember a damn thing
aside from some math, and a general idea how to troubleshoot anything thrown at me
I graduated 17 years ago tho
red rock
What did you study
fathom sparrow
Mech E
red rock
What's the E
fathom sparrow
engineering
Then I was forced into learning python at my last job and now I'm a developer
primal laurel
If this ends well I might even do a PhD here
fathom sparrow
From what I understand, it's a somewhat normal carreer path?
PHD in HA energy?
Please add device_class and state_class to your entity, the end.
solar zealot
at least thats something uh fun
clear ferry
I stopped studying 20 years ago
fathom sparrow
I had to do training at work with a fucking test last week
fathom sparrow
it wasn't math, it was for some stupid system they are implementing for tracking crap
regardless, I had to take a test and I was not happy
ocean oar
I had to do training at work with a fucking test last week
Lol the only test I've had to do in years for work was to get my forklift licence.
Because we buy a lot of servers, and I'm not going to turn down that opportunity if the company is paying
fathom sparrow
I wouldn't mind a forklift license & test
that's easy
well, easier than listening to a stupid boring ass video while clicking in a webbrowser about crap I don't give a flying fuck about
8 hour video, 2 hour test
ocean oar
Oof
fathom sparrow
primal laurel
if id had to continue signal processing, i may consider ending myself
hey that's my specialization haha
solar zealot
M condolences
primal laurel
PHD in HA energy?
I mean if it was open source and related to energy I would be happy as fuck
solar zealot
its not been two years and i have no idea what i am looking at
primal laurel
what specifically?
solar zealot
it starts out as rectangular function and then some fourier happens
and some more stuff where the profs didnt bother putting a label on whats going on
i am thankful enough that i dont have to touch it anymore
fathom sparrow
loks like a sine wave that changes into a cosine wave around 0 on the upsidedown ga axis
or tan that turns into sine/cosine
can't really tell w/o spinning it
solar zealot
Spider powered turbines
primal laurel
impressive though
solar zealot
Yes
shadow prawn
They have just like 12TWh Electrical Energy per year, germany has like 500 TWh
China like 6800Twh
primal laurel
it's about the energy mix, not absolute numbers
solar zealot
Germany just ain't cutting it
shadow prawn
Its much more difficult to transform a country like germany
solar zealot
Likely because of laws and the let others do the change mentality
Wonder what others* counts as
shadow prawn
You just need like 800 wind mills of the 5 MW class to produce 12TWh
Germany has more than 20000 wind mills on a land that has a much higher population density
solar zealot
And we only built less than 600 last year afaik
primal laurel
Germany is an economic super power. It has plenty of resources to get it done
shadow prawn
Germany isn’t even able to power everything with renewable sources on its own land cause the energy density in wind and solar is not enough
In australia thats like the easiest thing
Germany is forced to import energy from abroad like H2
solar zealot
It's not like that should be a reason to stop trying
shadow prawn
Do we stop?
clear ferry
Did someone say 94% hydro electric
solar zealot
Id say yes
solar zealot
We still ain't getting paid for the energy produced by consumers and the tax exemption generally is a joke considering that's eaten multiple times by companies
primal laurel
solar zealot
We still need to jump a ton of hoops to get basic installations going legally
It could be easier if there would be will
primal laurel
that's a pity
here is the share of houses with solar panels per municipality in NL
shadow prawn
There are so many challenges that still must be solved like green steel, green cement and so on. And only if we solve these challenges in order that they are economical more attractive, other countries like china will adapt them
solar zealot
It's actually funny
You possibly end up paying for having a small scale solar installation connected because they may choose to add a meter on a monthly subscription
It starts mathing around >60cnt per kwh
solar zealot
It's suspicious to say at least
shadow prawn
we also import energy from abroad
I mean like coal, oil, H2, other EFuels, Uranium etc
primal laurel
I mean like coal, oil, H2, other EFuels, Uranium etc
that's fine. It takes time to change. Especially if you have as much energy intensive industry like germany has. The energy transition is a 30 year plan but there is a lot of low hanging fruit in the meantime
red rock
here solar panels are money printing machines
This makes me think
are there other ways you can generate electricity at home and deliver it back to the network
because nobody actually checks if you have solar panels
static schooner
Mr. Fusion
shadow prawn
that's fine. It takes time to change. Especially if you have as much energy inte...
Yeah but we have to face changes, like reduction of iron ore maybe leave germany and places like australia are better places to do that
Cause there is no good in making h2 like in australia and ship it to germany, to produce iron here. The losses are too great, better ship the iron here
shadow prawn
Thats mr. nuclear fission
solar zealot
because nobody actually checks if you have solar panels
They kinda do
shadow prawn
His brother
solar zealot
Tho really the moment when you get paid to burn fuel, something is up
red rock
"Yea I am a youtuber and all this coal is what I got from a collab with a big foreign nation we're in war with"
solar zealot
would watch that ngl
last cedar
are there other ways you can generate electricity at home and deliver it back to...
A large bike with a dynamo
And strong legs
red rock
they're all already living rent free in our head
solar zealot
😱
iron granite
primal laurel
are there other ways you can generate electricity at home and deliver it back to...
Yes sure. Batteries for example
iron granite
Now I have to think about the Nuclear Boyscout 
static schooner
hard to imagine that anything else would be cost-effective
primal laurel
People who run their own whatever kind of way of generating power
You would be limited by your connection. And unless you report to your energy supplier you will feed back energy you won't be reimbursed for that
You can generate your own power and not feed back, no problem
Like a diesel generator
But your energy supplier will notice your load profile has unexpectedly changed and contact you
primal laurel
Probably a lot because the heat requirement is largest in winter when the panels produce the least
red rock
Would it be enough to not make the energy usage from grid suspicious
static schooner
Having sampled the folks trying to use Home Assistant, I have no interest in the general public owning their own personal reactors
iron granite
Nothing to worry about. The EPA took care of the parts and contamination of the Nuclear Boyscouts experiments
solar zealot
home assistant getting an integration to connect reactors confirmed?
there must be tuya gear around for this
red rock
Lmao
young sigil
Would it be enough to not make the energy usage from grid suspicious
Get a greenhouse
iron granite
Heat the plants, cool the roof 
prisma briar
Nothing to worry about. The EPA took care of the parts and contamination of the ...
After waiting for months and letting his mom throw most of it into the trash
iron granite
And driving parts of it around
prisma briar
Could you grow weed efficiently with solar power and batteries
If you grow outdoors all your light is solar
prisma briar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Handl
Arrested after contacting the police to ask if what he was doing was legal or not, smh
iron granite
If you grow outdoors all your light is solar
Which is basically nuclear 
prisma briar
Which is basically nuclear <:shksKEKW:834845186080243742>
ssshhh, you'll upset Germany
shy thorn
This #logo looks remarkably like HA's new logo. And archive.org shows ForgeFed has been using it since at least 2022. Feels like more than just inspiration...
tidal bronze
@forest edge how was your Thanksgiving?
distant junco
This #logo looks remarkably like HA's new logo. And archive.org shows ForgeFed h...
A lot longer actually: https://github.com/forgefed/forgefed/blob/fc694fae899e3c695170e55d587939e1e7f3ac81/logo.svg
forest edge
<@104768700069990400> how was your Thanksgiving?
it was ok. turkey was a little more dry than I would have liked but then that's life sometimes.
hope yours on a plane was good lol
winged obsidian
Carving the turkey different than traditionally can make a huge difference to the dryness. I started doing it this way years ago: https://www.nytimes.com/video/dining/1194817096866/the-butcher-carves-a-turkey.html
tidal bronze
it was ok. turkey was a little more dry than I would have liked but then that's ...
Why bother with turkey 😅
Not this time. Was grounded
static schooner
Like in your room? Can't go to the mall with your friends?
last cedar
This #logo looks remarkably like HA's new logo. And archive.org shows ForgeFed h...
HA clearly needs to use this one instead
tidal bronze
Like in your room? Can't go to the mall with your friends?
Lol. Haven't been to one in ages
static schooner
Well, not if you're grounded.
prisma briar
Two different graphic designers shop at ikea
forest edge
Why bother with turkey 😅
Not this time. Was grounded
why bother with turkey on thanksgiving?
I forgot.. you must be from norway
tidal bronze
I always thought Turkey was just a decorative element. Is it edible? Tastes different than water?
forest edge
I always thought Turkey was just a decorative element. Is it edible? Tastes diff...
all that seaweed consumption has rotted your brain
young sigil
Probably inspired, or more likely same source of inspiration for both.
Like parallel evolution. Same requirements -> similar results.
clear ferry
Hesus Christmas how hard it can be to find a LTO5 SAS drive
All I want is offline backups
red rock
What's the other one
low harness
red rock
Ouch
stable wolf
Two different graphic designers shop at ikea
I take that as a compliment 😅
stable wolf
This #logo looks remarkably like HA's new logo. And archive.org shows ForgeFed h...
My actual inspiration was this in case anyone wondered. It was right behind me in the last live stream. 😅 https://www.pentagram.com/work/the-national-1
umbral cliff
My actual inspiration was this in case anyone wondered. It was right behind me i...
Not this? 😛
stable wolf
No, but we were amused when we found out 😄
red rock
I still need to buy one of them
iron granite
That was dope
next crag
Not attacking anyone’s lifestyle of livelihood, but did anyone else see this in the subreddit and think it may have been a “dangle?”
red rock
dangle?
forest edge
🥒
next crag
If it was legit, problem already solved.
next crag
dangle?
Like, bait. Someone in one business/field floats to another with a topic of conversation that pulls people into organic discussion, sympathetic view, etc.
Overall goal is to siphon some of that attention back to the user’s primary field.
Again, not attacking anyone’s livelihood, just wondering if those kinds of things have reached something like HA.
next crag
It’s more common on twitter when you have an amateur model post something like, “I don’t see what the problem is with fat guys who play video games” or something to that effect.
red rock
But aren't there better communities to bait in?
Like yes, home automation is a hobby a lot of males participate in
but they aren't very young on average
They are usually the people with a lot of time or a crazy passion
next crag
Indeed there are, but you’re thinking of it as a HA user.
If you’re this adult content creator, and that’s something your boyfriend is into, you might view it as “another pool of sweaty men who will check out a woman.”
If it’s a joint effort, you may have even been told to target this group by said bf.
Explaining possible perspectives, not saying that happened.
But yeah, it could be entirely innocent and legitimate, just wondering if anyone else read that and thought…
red rock
I mean, I did not think anything of it in the first place
but now you say, it's interesting
next crag
I mean, let’s say I’m running my adult content account. I post nothing but that content there. I do it consistently. That’s my business.
I have a tech issue. Or would like some legal advice. Do I really want to muddy up my business by posting that from the same account?
clear ferry
Holy bananas batman
forest edge
porn muddy's up people's image in 2023?
next crag
porn muddy's up people's image in 2023?
Not because it’s porn. Because it’s off-brand of the usual posts. Same as having accounts on SM for your business and your personal stuff.
“I know I’m a useless stupid bitch” is some crazy self-deprecation when asking for a little tech help.
dusky plank
I migrated from chromium to waterfox
its goooood
but apparently it fails to load the HA dashboard 😛
ffs one has to use multiple browsers nowadays
glacial knot
one for every domain
dusky plank
oh, it was dark reader messing that one up
finite atlas
ffs one has to use multiple browsers nowadays
just use firefox?
solar zealot
some people cant take the heat
next crag
ffs one has to use multiple browsers nowadays
What was Chromium lacking for you? Or are you just skipping around?
I'm on my 9th month with Edge right now, ready to try firefox if I run into an issue, but I haven't yet.
red rock
I mean I am now full Firefox at this point
forest edge
gross
red rock
aaah, I want my christmas lights to create an integration for it
prisma briar
I've moved everything over to FIrefox over the last few months, I miss being able to ctrl+enter to click on the text highlighted by ctrl+f but otherwise haven't noticed anything different.
Well, I also noticed the lack of HEVC support
prisma briar
idk the last time I underspecced a PC of mine so bad I had to actually care about RAM usage
primal laurel
if chrome starts banning ad blockers im out
actually im already out just too pre-occupied to make the switch
prisma briar
It took me way less effort than I was expecting
ocean oar
Firefox user since version 0.8 🙂
prisma briar
And, yea, Manifest V3 was why I went to Firefox
prisma briar
Firefox user since version 0.8 🙂
I used Opera back then, until they switched to Chromium
ocean oar
What was funny is some time between someone telling me about it and me getting around to doing something with that information was when it was renamed to Firefox.
Because the advice was "this great new browser called Firebird", but by the time I went to download that, it wasn't called that anymore
prisma briar
I first learned to get online with Netscape at school, went to IE at home because it was bundled with Windows, then moved to Opera later on
dusky plank
What was Chromium lacking for you? Or are you just skipping around?
I'm on my 9...
What stefan says, adblockers, manifest v3 etc
Waterfox is firefox with a tad more privacy afaik
orchid rose
Vivaldi masterrace unless Google does some Google things in the near future
prisma briar
And sad, too. A lot of those things would be thriving open-source projects if Google had released the work they already did instead of just throwing it all away.
I am glad them killing google domains didn't also mean they ended their reseller agreements with enom. I've had my Google Workspace domain registered with them since before Google was a registrar, heh
orchid rose
When Google dropped their Don't be evil motto, I didn't think they would be quite as masks-off about it, but right now I'd be placing my bets on Bing to be the more user friendly option in the near future
prisma briar
I've always believed MS to be more honest/transparent than Google, personally.
Not that either of them are transparent or honest at all
red rock
I mean
I was developing a Microsoft Teams tab application recently
and the thing is, there is a lot of documentation about everything
but after reading something I was still like, yes there are 10 million options, but which one fits my use case?
primal laurel
All big tech cares about is money. Very transparent
red rock
I mean
Microsoft had AAD, Azure Active Directory
They renamed it to Microsoft Entra ID because god knows why
now, apparently their SEO on that name is so bad, they are going to rename it again
winged obsidian
now, apparently their SEO on that name is so bad, they are going to rename it ag...
Here comes Entra 365
entra365.com is already parked.
forest edge
the list is long
293 over 25 years is "very long"?
winged obsidian
~one a month
primal laurel
293 over 25 years is "very long"?
Yes
primal laurel
That's fine
glacial knot
And sad, too. A lot of those things would be thriving open-source projects if Go...
google does occasionally open source things
or at least allow alternative usage like the stadia hardware
glacial knot
https://killedbygoogle.com/
though amusingly, that page shows up in google made slides these days 😂
winged obsidian
google does occasionally open source things
Obligatory mention that Google Code is one of the things they killed.
orchid rose
So I got a new VR headset and it has wireless streaming support. I tried turning up the quality to 100Mbps which is rather low by today's standards, but got huge lags. Turns out my lan cables are so old that they can only do 100Mbps
atx would be very disappointed
winged obsidian
Google Flu Trends might have been repurposed a few years aftert it was killed...
forest edge
the only one I'm mad about being gone is g+
wtf why
winged obsidian
Also everything to do with Nest went in the exact wrong direction for openness.
forest edge
I think nest is the result of applevision
seems l;ike google is trying to copy alot of that closed ecosystem with a hint of flexabilty
glacial knot
So I got a new VR headset and it has wireless streaming support. I tried turning...
only 2 pairs? 🤔
glacial knot
Also everything to do with Nest went in the exact wrong direction for openness.
I like that they found an actual use for fuchsia
but otherwise, yea
I wish they open sourced codesearch https://source.chromium.org/search?q=open&sq=&ss=chromium%2Fchromium%2Fsrc
orchid rose
only 2 pairs? 🤔
Is that how little it is? I just used some random old cable of the right length
glacial knot
shielding can also make some difference
But the hard requirement for Gbit is 4 pairs. And there's very old cables with only 2 pairs
tardy pasture
winged obsidian
Now it's a Spike Lee Joint
winged obsidian
orchid rose
The fact that I still haven't watched that flick joint is so weird. I should fix that
next crag
if chrome starts banning ad blockers im out
It was mostly YT I was concerned with, and I've been using FreeTube for about a month now because of the changes.
Just finished importing all of my subscriptions.
primal laurel
It was mostly YT I was concerned with, and I've been using FreeTube for about a ...
Ublock origin works fine now. They updated it
iron granite
A little survey from Madelena: https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1179528867757699112
late gate
Would it be ok to just pull the drive from my old opnsense router and put it in the new or should I reinstall? Any experience of what file system is the most reliable on opnsense? Right now its just one enterprise ssd in it, but can expand to two if absolutely needed
umbral cliff
They renamed it to Microsoft Entra ID because god knows why
I think a lot of it came from people thinking you needed a local AD to use AAD, so they wanted to split it away
But I also don't think the name they went with is good for the purpose either
red rock
Yep
umbral cliff
I get why they wanted to split it though
primal laurel
tidal bronze
seems l;ike google is trying to copy alot of that closed ecosystem with a hint o...
Stop hating google
novel elk
Hi, I wanted to know if it's possible for me to put a HD with files and have them look like a NAS on the HA
static schooner
There are zero raccoons mentioned in that question
tidal bronze
There are zero raccoons mentioned in that question
Ever considered writing or doing standup?
iron granite
There are zero raccoons mentioned in that question
red rock
🦝
red rock
Ever considered writing or doing standup?
When I woke up ~35 minutes ago I thought you meant a daily standup with standup
So my head didn't get it as it couldn't link raccoons with scrum
ocean oar
Shit, but now you've got me wanting to monopolise our next daily stand up meeting and pull out the full "what is the deal with airline food" routine
red rock
HAHAHA
solar zealot
Great. The ha app stopped working today with an tls cert error.
As it turns out it's like invalid for over a month
So far browsers still trust this thing
clever mortar
Have you tried going back in time?
solar zealot
No but something weird is going on
Somehow the server is pushing a different wildcard certificate for this domain
While they are on the same matcher
Can't just have nice things I guess
clever mortar
Caching, MITM, or you've forgotten your own network setup
rancid hatch
Anyone got a tool for illustrating a home network with servers, switches, NAS and such?
next crag
Ublock origin works fine now. They updated it
I had to play cat and mouse at the time with Ublock, seemed to be every few days. Decided it wasn't worth it. Glad it is working though, but FreeTube has been nice to me for a few other reasons... built-in downloader, skips in-video ads, uses that DeArrow for community-rewritten titles. All option features of course, I'm enjoying it.
primal laurel
I had to play cat and mouse at the time with Ublock, seemed to be every few days...
Haven't had any issues the past month
next crag
That's good to hear, and I'm glad people have options.
dusky plank
ubo + sponsorblock ftw
next crag
Anyone got a tool for illustrating a home network with servers, switches, NAS an...
I used Gliffy Diagrams, though it is limited, it was enough for me as a non-professional.
prisma briar
Yea, I've noticed literally zero difference in YouTube through this whole adblock drama
Never got a popup, never had to update my adblocker, never had sponsorblock break
Never noticed that 5s pause people were complaining about
red rock
I used Gliffy Diagrams, though it is limited, it was enough for me as a non-prof...
G l i z z y d i a g r a m s
iron granite
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G l i z z y d i a g r a m s
next crag
https://tenor.com/view/glitter-gif-24035134
Joostlek talkin bout…
Anyways, it looks like the program is no longer supported so I don’t think it’s a good suggestion. I’ll have to find another in the future after some network rebuilding.
red rock
red rock
I dont have one
next crag
Its is one string of adjustable or does it present as multiple zones within the string?
red rock
red rock
I'm going to hang them at my window
Like
I'm already the pink room of the apartment building
But someone is trying to one up on me with Christmas lights
So what do you do as smarthome enthousiast, you one up them
They're not home so I can't make a picture of their home
next crag
https://tenor.com/view/network-confused-john-travolta-wire-gif-5799547
Just a WEE bit outdated, but enough for some amateur parsing:
iron granite
They are not outdoor rated, right?
red rock
They are not outdoor rated, right?
IP65
iron granite
I'm tempted... and a 20% off coupon at Amazon. 64 EUR for the 10m version 🤔
But not support in HA as far as I see
next crag
Oh, I thought Govee in general was HA-supported. It's by device?
iron granite
Govee BLE stuff is. Maybe there is a HACS integration
red rock
But not support in HA as far as I see
I will build it
There is a HACS
Already made an issue that I want to bring it to ckre
Core
ocean oar
Just a WEE bit outdated, but enough for some amateur parsing:
I like how
Hom
e
is line-wrapped
red rock
No it's a Hom e-LAN
iron granite
I will build it
You know the timeframe - next Wednesday, to be available for Christmas 
next crag
I like how
> Hom
> e
is line-wrapped
😆 Yeah that was me trying to squeeze everything in and didn't notice until it had been printed to PDF and JPEG. I guess I could've reprinted it, assuming the software was still around, since I have the raw file.
red rock
I just sent a spongebob gif in beta
red rock
https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/sponsorblock-voor-youtube/mnjggcdmjocbb...
and I literally read spongeblock
orchid rose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUHkTs-Ipfg I got it completely wrong
young sigil
I can't see YouTube but assuming the incomplete question was "how many revs does A make for one rev of B", I would have said 3. The 2*pi's in the circumstances cancel.
orchid rose
||and you would be wrong like the rest of us||
young sigil
I guess I'll just have to wait until I get home to see why.
winged obsidian
OMFG. This is driving me crazy. I can’t tell from the newspaper articles exactly which tests had the bad question.
I took the SAT in 1982, and scored 800 in math. My whole life has been a lie.
prisma briar
I couldn't remember what I got on my ACT (SAT alternative in my region) test for the life of me
And I took it around 2009, lol
I found that whole standardized testing infrastructure to be stupid and pointless.
I can't remember what my ACT score was but the math score on it put me into calculus 2 in college which I was wildly unprepared for, I had to go back down the second day of the semester and switch to a more appropriate class.
My highschool for some reason let computer science count as a math credit so that was my math class for my junior and senior years of HS. It was cool at the time but looking back taking real math classes would probably have been more beneficial.
glacial knot
Proper CS is almost exclusively math stuff
But a lot of places mix SE into it
primal laurel
for CS graph theory and combinatorics are probably the most important
for EE I need lots of stuff
glacial knot
EE needs calculating things, not maths 🙂
primal laurel
EE needs calculating things, not maths 🙂
What does that mean?
clear ferry
Yuck maths
scenic sapphire
Morning 👹
clear ferry
I can't figure out why my rpi3b+ is crashing constantly by just showing a simple HA dashboard
solar zealot
its a pi
clear ferry
or, well, chromium \ firefox is crashing mostly
solar zealot
Maybe some issues regarding hw acceleration?
clear ferry
perhaps
might also be the powersupply
but hey, the machine is only showing a single webpage and doing nothing more
shouldn't matter if it is a charger or a genuine power supply
clear ferry
shouldn't be memory related either, because it doesn't even try swapping
dusky plank
rpi3b is already at the max power what a micro usb can deliver, 3b+ takes even more and thus also crashes more
clear ferry
So I should POE it is what you are saying
dusky plank
I had very good success with using poe for pis yes
clear ferry
aight, time to order something from CHYNA
I don't have an ethernet outlet at the display, but I can just do a PoE injector and PoE HAT
solar zealot
Or you be mad and power it through the USB a ports
primal laurel
I can't figure out why my rpi3b+ is crashing constantly by just showing a simple...
What power supply do you have?
clear ferry
I've tried a few random chargers at 2-3A
solar zealot
It's something that shouldn't really work but it seems to do anyway on some models.
clear ferry
But again, it is hardly doing anything, except showing a single webpage
And there is no problem running it from these chargers for any other task I've tried
primal laurel
rpi3b is already at the max power what a micro usb can deliver, 3b+ takes even m...
Not true. You can draw about 2A over a micro usb port, or 10W. Which is more than plenty for a pi 3
dusky plank
rpi3b can crash on 3A, as does 3b+
so, yes you are right. it needs more power than it can get though
primal laurel
No, it doesn't
dusky plank
mkey
solar zealot
I don't think it ever hits more than 7.5w or power draw for the whole board by default
primal laurel
correct
dusky plank
just use some cheap off brand sd card, turn on wifi and make cpu&gpu busy
it will crash
thats my experience
primal laurel
the biggest problem with most powersupplies is poor voltage regulation. As in it can't follow the load
forest edge
thats my experience
this that outdoor sun facing rpi you referring too?
dusky plank
no, had multiple do that
primal laurel
cpu power consumption can jump all over the place. If the PSU can't regulate voltage properly it drops, you get low voltage warnings etc. and then is where the fun starts
I even had a PSU that worked fine with a good USB cable but with alixpress quality it got low voltage warnings
forest edge
yea some of those are so cheap the wire is super super thin
you run into length resistance issues
forest edge
pi's themselves can also end up consuming more power over time as well as any peripherals connected to them. especially hdd/ssd
my pi4 powered a 2.5hdd for a year without issue then all of the sudden it was like.. nope no more lol
primal laurel
as long as you get the official PSU you're gucci
forest edge
nah the board itself over time just pulls more and more like anything else
primal laurel
I doubt it
forest edge
not saying the board alone will pull more than the 3a.. referring to pulling more than the 3a with peripherals
even if you started out under
i've seen it happen a few times
on a few diff pi's
primal laurel
The pi itself will not consume more power over time. You may have environmental factors contributing to higher power consumption though, such as dust or higher ambient temperature
And maybe in rare case component degradation can cause higher power consumption, but then you're probably close to total failure already
forest edge
its not rare.. it happens to everything
some might see it sooner than others but it's like death and taxes
primal laurel
any source on that?
forest edge
any source on eletronic degradation?
primal laurel
on pi specifically
primal laurel
okay, can you link one. I cant find anything
forest edge
your dealing with a two fold on pi when you plug stuff in as well considering the usb power has it's own threshhold
primal laurel
yeah, great. But without concrete numbers its all pretty vague
forest edge
considering it's not a fixed rat that's not possible
you have never seen a device use more power over time?
primal laurel
I mean if you have the same software and hardware setup and just take a few measurements with x years in between you will get some data
forest edge
that would never work. many causes of component wear so it would never be the same
like sd cards failure rate.
primal laurel
sometimes you just get unlucky. My octopi has been running for 3 years continuously
clear ferry
I don't trust pis for much, but a kitchen display is fine
and it can't even handle that
forest edge
sometimes you just get unlucky. My octopi has been running for 3 years continuou...
same is said about what I was just talking about lol
primal laurel
without some data on pi's specifically its a pretty pointless discussion
primal laurel
and it can't even handle that
user error
forest edge
why everyone just defaults to blaming the psu
which in fair in most cases is probably the issue
clear ferry
Hey, I keep 16064 core systems running fine, but this pi just goes 
primal laurel
which in fair in most cases is probably the issue
it often is. For example I had one dude wich had issues connecting a ribbon cable camera to the pi. It just wouldn't be detected. You think, drivers? Incompatible? Hardware issue? But no, low voltage warnings. Connected the official psu, problems gone
forest edge
there is a post that talks about how the power is distributed to peripherals and how the psu with power drop off can cause a spiral death loop. tried to find that but not having much luck with my wording i think
because the pi will lower its voltage to accommodate the peripherals and that can cause like a chain reaction
clever mortar
We regularly see posts here from Pi users who've connected one too many USB devices and caused stability problems
forest edge
yea it don't take much. I thought the skyconnect would be fine on mine but nope
distant junco
We regularly see posts here from Pi users who've connected one too many USB devi...
I thought a single external SSD without a powered hub was already enough in some cases?
clever mortar
Can be, yes
forest edge
i was fine with the data port of my apc and a 2.5hdd connected to mine for just over a year
then switched to ssd and was fine for another year
then nope lol
was prob data growth to updates
prisma briar
I have a Pi on my printer I can't get to not give voltage warnings. Put it on a stock PSU or a 600w bench PSU at 5.4v and it always whines.
I've been considering replacing it with another SBC, all I need is linux and serial
primal laurel
could be a faulty cable or faulty pi
primal laurel
tried another cable?
prisma briar
Tried cables, tried powering from the GPIO header, always get that error
Voltage isn't dropping under load either
primal laurel
hmm odd
prisma briar
I even tried underclocking it to the lowest it'd let me set, still got it
My takeaway from it is RPi's kind of suck and are poorly designed.
primal laurel
My takeaway from it is RPi's kind of suck and are poorly designed.
I've deployed dozens of them in commercial projects, they perform really well
static schooner
I suspect lots of folks have unrealistic expectations for them, since they straddle the hobbyist/PC line
prisma briar
I think the RPi's could probably use a few more dollars put into their power handling, personally.
I've seen way too many people who know what they're doing have strange issues with Pis for me to buy that it's user error or a misconception.
static schooner
The BYO power supply strategy was definitely problematic, as well as using the Pi to power all your USB accessories
That power supply is often a cell phone charger
My other quibble is thermal management
prisma briar
To be fair that cell phone charger will (likely) run a cell phone more powerful than a Pi
So it makes sense for people to think it'd be fine
and it kind of should be
primal laurel
yet they're heading towards 100 million units sold, the company wouldn't survive if there were true design faults
prisma briar
But the cell phone probably has 5x the cost put into it's power management system compared to the Pi
glacial knot
To be fair that cell phone charger will (likely) run a cell phone more powerful ...
Might be designed for 9V2A though
While the raspi pulls up to 3A at 5V
Which should be fine
But I still like to make sure it's a supporter mode
prisma briar
It'd cost maybe a couple dollars to put a quickcharge trigger on the Pi and put a switching regulator to let it accept 9v and it'd largely resolve power issues for people.
prisma briar
yet they're heading towards 100 million units sold, the company wouldn't survive...
I wonder how many of those 100 million are logging undervoltage warnings every 30s
primal laurel
It'd cost maybe a couple dollars to put a quickcharge trigger on the Pi and put ...
a couple of dollars is a lot
prisma briar
I'd argue it's not really on a device that's been iterated on for a decade and has models costing up to $75 per unit. I think priorities just aren't there.
Especially the Pi 4, that should be using USB PD to get a more reasonable voltage to run off of.
primal laurel
are you in the electronics manafucturing industry? I'm sure they would love your expert advice
prisma briar
Oh fuck off
You don't need to be employed in manufacturing to see a recuring problem with a device.
primal laurel
you dont have a clue what you're talking about
prisma briar
I'm so worried you think that.
glacial knot
Especially the Pi 4, that should be using USB PD to get a more reasonable voltag...
Or it just stops pretending being a production ready device 🤷
The CM4 barely is
prisma briar
You'd have to be beyond useless as a sysadmin to willingly use an RPi in production
Their sweet spot is teaching highschoolers python
primal laurel
Luckily sysadmins are not engineers and they don't get to make that decision
prisma briar
Sysadmins often have a lot of input on the hardware purchased, actually, and no self-respecting sysadmin would ever suggest an RPi.
primal laurel
Hardware purchased for what exactly?
prisma briar
A lot of stuff, especially stuff labeled 'production'.
primal laurel
If you're talking about servers to host whatever, sure I agree rpi has no reason to be there
glacial knot
You'd have to be beyond useless as a sysadmin to willingly use an RPi in product...
There's RPI based products...
I had to implement one of them
glacial knot
Hardware purchased for what exactly?
Anything running in production
prisma briar
An RPi based product has opportunities to fix some of the stupider design issues with the consumer RPi boards at least
I can't remember what but I got something with an RP2040 embedded on it recently
glacial knot
Only if you base it on CM
You get absolutely 0 input on the board
Mostly because the raspi foundation isn't set up for a serious protect vertical
prisma briar
Won't they sell you the actual ICs to do your own board with, too? Or is that only for the Pico?
glacial knot
2040 is in the class of something like the beagle bone iirc.
primal laurel
There's RPI based products...
I had to implement one of them
I worked on one too. The big advantage is you can move from design to production very quickly. That company never produced more than 10k of anything though so that was easy
prisma briar
Yea, 2040 is the Pico
glacial knot
Which is pretty far from the normal boards
prisma briar
It's more of an embedded MCU than a Linux SBC
primal laurel
Fun fact, the athom homey pro has a CM4
glacial knot
Yea, the CM is tolerable
Still horrible software, but avoid some of the hardware issues
prisma briar
I have a couple Picos here. I have to say, I'm a fan of UF2 flashing.
I also have a Zigbee dev board that uses it
glacial knot
UF2 🤔 ?
prisma briar
Huh, did not realize UF2 was a MS spec
prisma briar
UF2 🤔 ?
https://github.com/microsoft/uf2 Basically when you put the device into bootloader/'dfu' mode it shows up as a USB MSD and you just drag the firmware over
glacial knot
Cute
primal laurel
At Philips we had pi's all over the place. Must have been dozens. But only for testing, POCs, running test servers, but not in products
prisma briar
Seems to be the new 'hot thing' in MCUs
glacial knot
Though I don't mind using a flash utility
prisma briar
I only dislike them if they require a dongle like the st-link
Though SWD makes owning an st-link still worth it
glacial knot
Hm?
I have a couple flashers and some devices that have their own mode
prisma briar
I have some stm32 boards that either don't have the USB pins wired up or don't have boot0 accessible that need a st-link to flash, I prefer ones that can just go into DFU and use USB to flash.
primal laurel
I have one stlink devkit that I use as the external debugger for the cheap boards lol
prisma briar
I got a st-link v2 and a handful of stm32f4 dev boards to play with. I've done a few random things with them, I converted a wired keyboard to wireless with two stm32f4's and some nrf24l01's, I made an SNES -> Gameport/USB adapter with one.
I mostly stick to esp32/esp8266's now though
I also paired an stm32 with an esp32 blueretro to make it emulate a USB keyboard/mouse and a gameport joystick using some digipots so I could use the blueretro on an old retro gaming PC I have
primal laurel
I bought the STM32WL devkit and an esp32 'LoRa' dev board (turned out to be a lie)
Plan was to make a lora gateway for HA and have cheap battery powered DIY lora sensors
prisma briar
I have a nucleo dev board somewhere I think has an stlink onboard but the diameter/pitch of the pins on it was really small and I never bothered buying new wires to connect to it
I had an old projector I converted from a HID bulb to an LED COB chip that had an stm32 on the ballast. I found the protocol spec for that ballast online and made a new firmware for it that always returned a positive status without actually trying to manage the ballast. Thankfully there were test pads for st-link programming on it.
Got a few years out of that projector before the color wheel went out and lost sync with the video
primal laurel
nice
just finished my weather station receiver project, rpi based ofcourse lol
should probably move it to an esp32 but dont have a radio for it
finite atlas
they sure have their use case
just not for actual important computing
just like esp32's
clear ferry
They are great for teaching children how to turn on LEDs with python
glacial knot
Jup
clear ferry
glacial knot
I want to do some mini course for the local youth
Some mini programming course or similar
Either based on RPI or esp32
clear ferry
Wir mussen der kinder lären kode!
clear ferry
Either based on RPI or esp32
The risc-v based esp is interesting enough
Don't remember the name
primal laurel
just like esp32's
Meanwhile, I find esp in almost every wifi smarthome device i buy
finite atlas
For those applications, is a great choice.
Just not for computing important things.
primal laurel
What exactly does that mean?
clear ferry
Anything I care about
It is fine for my garage door
Wouldn't store picture library on it
primal laurel
I thought we were talking about the esp32
clear ferry
They are about equal in my trust level
Just noticed the pi3b+ does not power usb devices when you power it via Poe
Interesting
primal laurel
What exactly makes the esp32 untrustworthy?
clear ferry
I've had plenty where the voltage regulator has failed
Great for small projects
And easily replaceable
primal laurel
Are you talking about the devkit?
There are 3 different things people call "esp32". The chip itself, the actual esp32. The certified package, for example the esp32-wroom. And the devkit, for example the esp32-devkitc
Only the last one has a power supply
clear ferry
I have 3 different esp32, 4 different esp8266 and a few esp32-s2
And all ESPs have a power regulator
Because they run on 3.3 whereas the usb supplies 5
Come think of it, I have a bag of esp01 too, those were pretty useless
primal laurel
That's my point
The regulator is just the cheapest whatever the board manufacturer could find
It has nothing to do with the esp32 itself
clear ferry
Yeah, there is nothing wrong with Bosch brakes, its just that they are installed on a Peugeot
primal laurel
Are you serious? Or trolling?
tidal bronze
Nice lunch box. You back to school?
primal laurel
Yeah, there is nothing wrong with Bosch brakes, its just that they are installed...
Anyway if you want a good analogy, it's the equivalent of installing Peugeot brakes on a Lamborghini and then suing Lamborghini when you crash at 300km/h on the autobahn
glacial knot
well yea, you are supposed to run skoda breaks on the Lambo
primal laurel
Yes
primal laurel
I'm sure Top Gear can help you
iron granite
I'm sure Top Gear can help you
Not if they have to be in one piece
primal laurel
Not if they have to be in one piece
Ssshhhh
iron granite
Sorry...
primal laurel
At least you got the joke
orchid rose
am I the only one who doesn't care as long as it's a full day?
I might as well charge it every night and in case I forget I have a HA reminder to charge it when I go to bed if it's under 50%
orchid rose
Sure but you still have to worry about it every third day
orchid rose
Yeah I can see how it would be useful if you often forget and it's not a routine thing to recharge it at night
primal laurel
My phone usage is not enough to make it a problem, usually 1-2 hours
orchid rose
Yeah same I use my phone very little compared to most people
orchid rose
I have Discord and that's already distracting enough
and IRC but that's like two people lol
late gate
Im so struggling to decide if I should put one or two SSD into the new router. I always felt this kinf of stuff should have two drives, but I have three choises: 1x quality enterprise SSD, 2x enterprise SSD, but then I have to 3d print a holder for the second one, or option 3 1x enterprise SSD + 1X MSATA. Any thoughts? (will be used as a non virtual Opnsense firewall with 32G ram and a Intel I9-9900T CPU
this is the mainboard
clear ferry
Well, Poe power made no difference @dusky plank rpi browser window still crashes
clear ferry
How much of that time did you spend with wifi connected?
90% ish
prisma briar
This is my S21 Ultra after 2 1/2 years
Not sure if it could be a more confusing graph, tbh
The full charge in the middle was about 50h ago
prisma briar
am I the only one who doesn't care as long as it's a full day?
I'd be kind of annoyed if my phone only lasted a day, lol.
clever mortar
I miss the 7+ day battery life of the old Nokia phones 😛
prisma briar
I could probably get 7 days on mine if I left it in battery saver
orchid rose
I miss the 7+ day battery life of the old Nokia phones 😛
If it was really significant like 7 days or two weeks, I'd probably care too, but 1 or 3 days doesn't matter much to me
ocean oar
And it was 7-10 days with only a 1000mAh battery, for the likes of the Nokia 1100.
orchid rose
They also barely had a screen and you didn't need one either since all they could do was to make phone calls and SMS with a few minutes of snake in-between. Actually that doesn't sound too bad
primal laurel
One of my friends has a flip phone, the classic one. But it runs standard android
ocean oar
The mobile radio is the real battery killer, followed closely by the screen.
I just bought one of these https://shop.boox.com/products/palma to use as an around-the-house device + e-book reader.
It's got midrange phone specs (SD6xx series, 6GB, ~4Ah battery), but e-ink display, WiFi only (and pretty aggressive at turning that off in sleep mode).
Have read for a couple of hours over the past 3 days since I charged it, with the light on, and it's been refreshing the clock on the screensaver display when in sleep mode the rest of the time.
Battery percentage is still in the mid-60s.
Also you really have to design HA dashboards specifically for that kind of device. Controlling RGBW lights is... challenging... with 16 shades of grey
abstract hinge
time to see how much i will regret things tomorrow
going to try migrating my HASSOS to a pi
hollow glacier
Im so struggling to decide if I should put one or two SSD into the new router. I...
two cheaper (but not shit) nvme/ssd over one "higher quality" enterprise for this use case imo
abstract hinge
currently running in a Proxmox vm
late gate
would 1x SSD + 1X mSSD work together regarding to speeds? That way I dont have to custom create a stand
as long as they are the same size
hollow glacier
i have no idea man never used mSSD
but i doubt you'll hit any speed limitations with a samsung evo nvme or ssd in there (or two)
abstract hinge
Dammit, lost my rpi4 psu
ocean oar
If it wasn't for the weird orientation of the PCIe slot, a PCIe x8 to dual M.2 bifurcation card would be perfect
Definitely don't need the performance, but since NVMe M.2 SSDs are basically the cheapest option these days
late gate
I could not have used that slot as I have a SPF card in that slot
so then I am between to combine a ssd and msata or 3d print a holder for a second SSD
hollow glacier
If it wasn't for the weird orientation of the PCIe slot, a PCIe x8 to dual M.2 b...
i wouldnt necessarily expect that older mobo to support bifurcation tho
shit i bet some adapter like this would be fine
ocean oar
i wouldnt necessarily expect that older mobo to support bifurcation tho
Fair, and even if the chipset does, chances of a hilariously dodgy bios seem high
hollow glacier
yeah
but opnsense or w/e he's gonna use it for will be fine with msata to m.2 adapter
and a second m.2 ssd
tbh i wouldnt even worry about a second ssd i'd put that money towards a UPS for power backup
ocean oar
I will also note that - assuming this is it http://en.hanzsung.com/prod_view.aspx?TypeId=91&Id=431&FId=t3:91:3 - it also only says it's compatible with 6th/7th gen CPUs
hollow glacier
i just pointed out that adapters existed
late gate
thats an error, its tested with 9th gen
its works
its always on an online quality UPS
hollow glacier
cool
ocean oar
Good to know, just thought I'd throw it out there
late gate
yeah, I reacted on the same thing
its a regular AMA bios so nothing exciting about it
I dont get it why they didnt made a slot of a second disk
well I got it for free so I cant really complain
ocean oar
That SFP NIC is hilarious. Like some sort of weird prototype of an OCP NIC
late gate
Its actually an Intel X520
not sure where that design is original from
Im sure it will do its job. I just need 10G
ocean oar
The X520 is one of the greatest NICs Intel ever made
hollow glacier
They run hot right
ocean oar
Definitely hotter than a Mellanox of the same generation (ConnectX-3) but not excessively.
late gate
I am thinking to put some fans over the NIC
ocean oar
The X540 (10GBase-T) is a spicy boi
hollow glacier
I am thinking to put some fans over the NIC
I had to for my dual 10gig built into an old mobo
It might be x540
late gate
my mellanox on my server is SO hot
I have some spare alright sized fans that I can use. Better to get some airflow directly on the hardware
hollow glacier
https://www.serverbuilds.net/anniversary sure enough it is x540
hollow glacier
I have some spare alright sized fans that I can use. Better to get some airflow ...
i used zip ties and combined two 80mm pwm-pst fans side by side lol
dusky plank
late gate
i used zip ties and combined two 80mm pwm-pst fans side by side lol
if it works it works
late gate
worst thing is my 12 year old in my giggled
ocean oar
NICs seem to be one thing where newer is definitely better. This is a ConnectX-6 25Gb card.I needed a couple at work, pulled it out of the box and was wondering where the rest of the card was:
Just about the most pathetically small heatsink I've ever seen
hollow glacier
it's trying its best
late gate
are you guys usually redoing the thermal paste when you get products? I feel a lot of vendors are not too precise on the thermal paste. Like the mini PC I got had no paste at all
subtle pasture
I generally leave them alone unless there's a problem with thermals, or the device is several years old.
Graphics cards get a blow-out and repaste when they get handed down, etc.
late gate
I have always done the same. I just start second guessing when I did see no phaste on the last one
clear ferry
Who needs connectx6 when you have slingshot
hollow glacier
are you guys usually redoing the thermal paste when you get products? I feel a l...
i tell myself and others to do it and rarely actually do it. unless i spend a lot of money on it
late gate
yeah its mostly a should have done thing
hollow glacier
Lol https://github.com/ZaDarkSide/ArrangeByPenis
tidal bronze
yes, math exam next week
Figures. Hope you do better the 2nd time ovwr and clean that noodle 🤣
clear ferry
Figures. Hope you do better the 2nd time ovwr and clean that noodle 🤣
-16c here today, but not as bad as Munich
glacial knot
hm, what about Munich?
iron granite
"Do you want to build a snowman?" 🎤
glacial knot
https://images.pr0gramm.com/2023/12/02/565c16b013e09ad4.jpg
Uhh, is that today?
finite atlas
yeah
shadow prawn
shadow prawn
Uhh, is that today?
The snow was too heavy and the airplane tipped over
primal laurel
after cycling for 50m I realized the brakes were frozen solid. Winter is real
green inlet
I don’t know how anyone does anything colder than 60 degrees Fahrenheit. I mostly hibernate during the winter.
blazing musk
Cosmic rays /s
finite atlas
solar zealot
the good ol days where racoons dressed up before visiting the dumpsters
blazing musk
I'm working on a data over power light string. I'm hoping I don't run into this...
Sent the boards off to PCB fab yesterday
forest edge
@tidal bronze looks like NY is copying your states means of giving away free stuff and having chain stores close because of it
you would heart that lol
tidal bronze
They need some of that here badly.
clear ferry
I'm working on a data over power light string. I'm hoping I don't run into this...
As in ... Data signal modulated over the powerline?
forest edge
They need some of that here badly.
that ohio?
tidal bronze
Yep, was in Cleveland for a day. Welp
forest edge
gross lol
actually you know what.. good.. good that of all people you had to be there lol
tidal bronze
10:45 PM only place open for a buger was a bar, came on a plastic plate and plastic utensils. Very confusing. Good that I didn't ask for that Keto
last cedar
Wonderful!
Philips hue outdoor sensor isn't updating temperature, but updates lux and motion values in more or less real time... awesome
forest edge
prob got tired of saying it's just always cold
iron heart
I'm working on a data over power light string. I'm hoping I don't run into this...
Ferrite bead at the beginning and the end of the string
Or, you know, having an actual ground
hollow glacier
making some of these to give away
last cedar
prob got tired of saying it's just always cold
This is true, stuck at -1.2C
Tuesday low is meant to be -15C
primal laurel
dusky plank
I fail to see the reinvention
ocean oar
Congratulations, you invented... a NAS
red rock
I was wondering apart from all the marketing stuff if this was worth it
ocean oar
@red rock It actually doesn't look horribly priced, so long as it materialises and doesn't just run off with your money (their 3rd kickstarter, so probably won't).
And since you can run whatever OS you like and skip whatever AI bullshit marketing crap they're pushing, so much the better.
Decent features, should be more than adequate performance, and an actually ok amount of expandability (space for that A2000 GPU is actually pretty swish).
Shame about the external PSU, that'd be my only real complaint if I was in the market for that sort of thing (I mean it's potentially good if you ever have to replace it, but I hate cable mess).
The $900 pro/early bird plus however much it costs you to put the full 64G of RAM in it, not a bad deal
Or if you want the A2000 (those are $500) for $1600 (and that one comes with 64G)
finite atlas
just build one yourself, for much cheaper
ocean oar
I think "much" is a bit of an over-statement. Here's something you could put together using last-gen AMD gear on the cheap: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RpYcGP and it's still >$700 (and likely requires a few sundry parts to finish the build).
Consider too some people are more time-poor than they are cash-poor and want something that's nicely-built, arrives fully assembled, doesn't use an absurd amount of power (so has to be new, low-power components and not used enterprise gear), etc.
Also if you compare specs, it actually comes up short on a few metrics. Has more drive bays (but you likely need an HBA to be able to use them, which means no space for a GPU because 1× PCIe slot on a mITX board). That KS one can have 4× M.2 (plus the boot drive) where you're only getting the boot drive, etc.
Absolutely agree if you only compare tangible things it comes up short. Including intangibles, sometimes it skews the other way.
ocean oar
Oh yeah, the number of times you want something that's trivial to throw together for something you need to do for a week and then pull apart again.
I have a whole shelf full of servers in various states of disrepair at work for exactly those situations
Oh you need to move 2 petabytes of data between two storage systems? Lemme throw a 100Gb NIC into something real quick 😉
static schooner
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/icewhaletech/zimacube-personal-cloud-re-inv...
They're kinda reaching for differentiation:
