#the-water-cooler
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I could get you a small island for 800000 euro
i can sell you our house for that price (:
3 floors, basement, that thingy under the roof
even comes with a intel server in the basement!
and a decomissioned chimney for easy fibre install through the entire house
Nor have a direct manager there
Mind you a good island is about $18,000,000 on average
But I can get you a small one for around 1.3 million
give me a spade and a garden hose and i'll built you one for under 1.3m
With dock access for yachts?
sure
if you have money for a yacht, and own one, you clearly have too much money to know what to do with...
Planning ahead
I'm considering buying a small fishing boat if if move up north
Besides why would I buy a yacht when my best friend is a yacht captain.....
my grandparents had a small sailing yacht
it was cool, but they sold it dirt cheap, because they are old and a bit special when it comes to that...
A boat dock was $7k a year in my parents hometown
Where I'm moving it is about half that
Which is reasonable
just build your own boat dock and charge for it
My grandpa had a few sailing yachts. We used to race around England in them
I'm building 2 docks 
Actually my beach isn't far from a public use dock either
Oh no step benchy, what are you doing, that isn't a dock
My experience with boats
Oh that was what this is called
Heh, my work phone data package is 10GB per month
So far I've used 90GB
And a 10GB package is $30 each
And I've still got 4 days until we are home
why dont they just pay for unlimited?
even here in germany you get unlimited for 30€ a month
Because murica
Our corporate overlords decided that we should have the least possible package with the local company that has an agreement with T-Mobile which is the contract holder worldwide
And we don't need 5g either
$30 package here is 3GB
it's $140 for unlimited but they cap you after like 40gb
i pay 6,66€ a month for 10gb
and if you go over your data it's $5 for every 1GB
if i go over, it gets throtteled to 64kbit/s
unless i specifically choose to buy more
no if you go over here, it switches off, you have to add data manually
rip
so like I will still have minutes and sms on my plan but data will go off
sounds very american
I love how they want to pressure me into buying another contract for half the price. While I can share mine with up to 10 devices
I think I call 5m a month, and send maybe 3 sms
sms in 2023 o.o
well everyone on the same carrier it's free so no minutes needed but I can call US or Canada with those minutes also
No capping. I have used my mobile to provide internet to my whole network, when I had to wait for the carrier in my new flat
I can get 200gb for $140 but it's data only no voice no sms
I do that for my mifi box when we have hurricanes
atx btw this is what I'm saving for Intel Core i5-12600KF
I have been given a rack "router" to be tested, that will run opnsense (of maybe pfsense just to annoy @clear ferry). Do you guys this specs will be able to handle the 10gbit ports I5-2410M+6LAN+210GB SFP ?
Yes by far
great casuse my point is to just have it as a bare router and use the SFP ports only
then my whole backbone is SFP 10G
from router to switch to nas
If you start doing IDS/IPS you might get exhaustion, depending on traffic and how many networks you are running
I am running about 7 vlans
with ipv6 enabled
but is IDS that important anymore when most is encrypted?
depends on your level of paranoia, and what traffic you are doing
You're also assuming that all malware traffic is encrypted with TLS 1.3
I dont know how much IDS would require a 10GB. I think something like a pi can do around a gigabit
They found the efnet servers with tls enabled to run c&c from
A Pi won't do IDS on gigabt
pi can only do 300mbit BEST
Well, if you only have a handful of signatures... sure
Can a Pi even do 1Gb raw routing throughput?
A Pi4 maybe
lmfao out of what adapter
USB 3.0 is good enough for Gigabit
I think unifi runs around a pi4 in speed and they do around a gigabit
pi4 speed is not a pi4
Could always do one of those ridiculous mods to convert a USB port to a PCI lane.
Unifi is also going to have asic switching, probably.
unifi has asics ? I thought they just obscured all their issues in shitty code and frontends
At least some of their stuff does
the only unifi gear I am running is a 10G switch and a couple of 2.5g wifi access points
thay gear is good, but their routers is horrible
Pass
The U6 APs at least don't crash every other week
That's about the only good thing I can say
I had a large enterprise customer invest in Unifi recently for 70+ sites
Oof
it took about 2 months until they realized their error
it was as unstable as a raspberry pi 4 running benchmarks in sudan
they replaced everything with aruba
no issues since
is it any wifi points that integrate with opnsense?
Yea, Unifi is the dividing line between prosumer and consumer, it's not for enterprise.
I wouldn't even use unifi in a business, tbh.
why would you integrate access points with opnsense ?
cause its an option for it haha
no
there is no reason
if you want to use guest networks, do vlans and captive portals with dedicated wan gateways
idk, just because haha
no
no atm im happy with unifi ap, but I will switch to the new inwall ones
they have really good throughput
I've had inwall ones for almost two decades, I just stick my APs in my walls and attics
no need for marketing bullshit
aruba inwall?
this is the one I will get for testing: https://eu.store.ui.com/eu/en/pro/category/all-wifi/products/u6-enterprise-iw
I had one in an access panel I installed in a wall until I rearranged a month or so ago.
They are very decent
its work well, fits on a network outlet hole, so screw on there, with switch output on the bottom
its a good design
That's not even in wall
any access point fits inside a wall tbh
"In-Wall"
On Wall
oh ubiq users here as it seems
Not many here either
unfortunatly
im happy with them at least
do the bullet cams be yay or neigh
asking for a friend
I take the ok ON wall anytime over roof ufo or table thing
the unifi doorbell pro is also good. I never had issues
I haven't seen most of my access points the last 20 years tbh
I just stick them inside the wall or the attic
@clear ferry thats cause your eyesight sucks
it does suck
but that isn't the reason
I used to have +6.5 \ +2.5
Now I have +2.75 \ -0.25
I have no natural depth perception
btw I will be working in evry again, or a daughter company of evry, "eyeshare". Last time I was in evry it was ergogroup
im not connected to it anything else than name. the company is independant
well better than steria
steria is the worst place I ever worked in my life
I want to go back to working 6 months in Norway and 6 months in the Philiippines like I did before
I just want to live in northern norway with a fishing boat and fly to customers if needed
is that a yes? lol
I don't have concrete walls. I do have brick walls. :/ Benefits and drawbacks there. Don't need to care about finding studs to mount stuff. harder to run cable.
Concrete houses here are usually from around the war
brick walls is usually architect
fairly normal for the uk except for new stuff.
I have 1m Concrete Walls on the Outside and drywall on the inside 😄
repurposed Bunker 😄
was kinda hard to get Windows into the walls but it's super nice and quiet
and you can blast Movies and Music at night and no one will notice 😄
not much issue with noise when there is 20m between neighbours
i have concrete block walls outside, and plaster inside
I suspect your phone reception isn't wonderful 😉
Well, I can only use Wifi call inside 😄
or the Landline
i have zero copper in the ground... it is up on the poles 🤪 🤣
well SIP over Fiber it is
that is also being pulled down though
but thats what I still call landline 😄
all copper going to the recycler
115000 people still had landlines in 2022, but it is no longer sold since 2022, so any lines that are broken\cancelled\terminated will be dead
i live too rural for good fiber internet. trees falling on the lines make it unreliable...
that includes voip phones I believe
fiber
ah well
interesting
Here in germany you get like a stack of phone numbers and a SIP account by default
the 115000 people who have landlines still are probably pensioners though
classic analog Landlines are canceled since a few years too
and none of the pensioners I know have it
and that was a number from january 2022
it is probably 100k or less now
in germany everyone has a classic phone somewhere in the home
even if he does not use it typically
even my 85yo in laws got rid of theirs in 2018
my parents haven't had one since 2014
we threw out ours in 2012, after having one call a year probably for 3 years
If I try to call my parents I often have to call them on there landline
cause there Smarphones typically sit somewhre in the Kitchen or near the door
best way to reach my 70\74 year old parents is by snapchat 😄
I haven't used a landline since sometime in the late 00s
then again I haven't used physical money since 2007 either
except when visiting developing countries
like the UK and the US

I thought about that in the late 00s, but never got time
how is it with businesses ?
they all have mobile phones
Here every Business has a huge stack of Landline Phone Numbers
and they only use these
they still have their old landline numbers, but they are routed to mobile phone rings
even if they are on the go they just do a forward through there mobile phones
but they don't have physical desk phones
Ah here every desk still has a desk phone typically
I only see desk phones on military sites
flatrate has been the default here since the late 00s
They often use shitty prepaid cards with like 9ct/min call pricing and like 8€ a month for a 2gb data plan XD
a full Flat incl. unlimited Data here is 80€ a month
unlimited landline is like 40€ for a 100mbp/s downstream and 30-50mbp/s up
XD
thats what most people here are using
5g and flat rate sms\mobile is $15 here, which is probably expensive for other countries
5gb or 5G cellular network?
both
I currently pay $90 for my 1000\1000 fiber line, 10000\10000 would cost me $150
I could not live with that 😄 I have like 150-200gb Data a month over cellular
plus a few TB over fiber+
They are concrete bricks, with poured columns
1g Fiber is max here, only 500m up
costs 80€ per month
10" thick outer walls, 6" thick inner walls
1GB fibre, about £60. unlimited mobile + an s22, about 70
unlimited data is just 30€ a month in germany
if you can live with eplus 😄
Not if you want Telekom 5g
i've never needed it
¯_(ツ)_/¯
telefonicas network is not as terrible as everyone always says
here it is
where here
where do you get unlimited data for 30 bucks a month in germany
o2 may give you that for 33 but its barely usable at <3mbit
No idea what you are referring to. Remember, no idea about about current affairs and not interested.
https://www.mydealz.de/deals/sim-only-vodafone-netz-gigamobil-m-gigakombi-mit-allnetsms-flat-unlimited-daten-5g-fur-effektiv-1666eurmonat-durch-320eur-cashback-2161755
or
https://www.freenet-funk.de/
Danke an @smochen für den Hinweis. Selbstständige bekommen noch 10% Rabatt extra.Danke an @tora74 für den Hinweis.Bei Check24 gibt es derzeit den GigaMobil M
Lade Dir jetzt die freenet FUNK App runter und buche ganz easy und bequem deinen Handytarif! Gleich lostelefonieren, surfen oder simsen.
i had freenet funk as a dsl replacement for a few months and had speeds up to 120 mbit/s download and 50 mbit/s upload.
@finite atlas Adorable af!!
man, that was fun... i just setup my new WiFi router, as the old one was failing fast (the WiFi radios kept dropping out)... started at 2AM and it is now 4:31AM. but the server and all it's VMs are reconfigured for the new IP addresses provided by the new router. still have a few printers, and my network security cameras, but it is mostly back up and running 😁
nice
They specify it's only 15mbit with the unlimited plan. Not great but a lot better than 3 at least
they specified 15 back when i had 120
well my ISP said we would have fiber in my area for Q1 2023 and it's still not here with no expected date as to when it will be... so clearly ISPs lie like Persian rugs
Why not just reuse the old IP ranges? 
Hello
i keep forgetting, you are a "free bird"
Because DNS is hard
that makes no sense
old ranges were really a PITA to remember (10.150.86.XXX), so i went with the ranges provided by the new router, (192.168.1.XXX). far easier to remember.
hardest part was somehow the Proxmox install was setup with static IP, and would not connect to the new range, for clear reasons. so i had to go in and change it to DHCP, with reservations provided by the router.
but if you're using a /24 the first 3 octets never change LOL you're really only 'remembering' the last octet
Or ... DNS
besides 192.168.1.x is used by 98% of the uninitiated internet
I don't remember most of the IPs on my network because they all have DNS entries
I use both tbf
so it causes routing isssues especially with VPNs..... when you have two 192.168.1.1's LMFAO
? never heard of that
it's a thing
never had a problem with 192.168.1.XXX in the past...
I'm not saying you will either
I could see that being an issue when you setup up your own vpn
I'm just saying you can
but that's a YOU issue messing up lol
no idea how these modren ones work like nord or whatever
if the world ever did a hard switch to v6 i would be so fucked lol
you do realize there are VPN's outside of providers right?
back in the day, it was very common to have a VPN for gaming with friends (or hamachi RIP)
aside from setting one up eons ago, i don't really follow into any of that
so if everyone had 192.168.1.X... it would be impossible
yea but if you are setting it up, you take that knowledge into account..
the nord thing would be the one I don't imagine you have any control over, but as i said i never used any of that so don't know
ok imagine remote workers during covid all logging into a VPN at work, and 56 people use 192.168.1.X
considering buisness don't use 192
that's not how that works
i am starting to understand now... though i doubt it is an issue here
thought i did...
client side gets assigned an address, you don't use your local address inside a vpn
i currently don't use a VPN, as i don't do much remote work on my network... other than connecting to HA from the internet (reverse proxy)
a vpn would have to be setup specifically using the traditional 192.168 network range in order for there to be an issue and considering most I ever used like openvpn dosen't default to that to begin with, the person setting up the vpn would have to intentionally go out of their way to fubar the whole thing up knowing the clients are used that locally
but again, i don't use vpn these days nor have i ever used anything like those commercial ones like nord so no idea what they do these days
https://serverfault.com/questions/21399/how-do-you-avoid-network-conflict-with-vpn-internal-networks
There's literally articles about it and documentation
NAT-T and IPsec make it worse trust me
that person had set that vpn to that address and then ran into conflicts then changed it to compensate. i think the average joe isn't going to run into that kind of issue
this is why I don't understand why so many people want to over complicate thier network setup lol
Well ive deployed a few hundred VPN phones and had the issue with VOIP calls
For example
I've also had it gaming with vpns
I mean not sure what else to tell ya
in a buisness respect dealing with hundreds/thousands.. sure but then again you are being paid to fix it lol
🤪
Yeah instead of having to fix it, I just tell people to try to pick an uncommon range... not like most people look at it even
i've not once ever heard of an instance with services like nord causing conflicts. I imagine those setups are very similiar to the tradtional opnvpn? no idea
@clear ferry might kill me, but I am concidering moving from opnsense to pfsense!
Well I'm not just taking OpenVPN. IPsec VPN clients and home routers suck.
i don't blame you
@forest edge oh why not?
pfsense seems to wait before updating to make sure everything works as it should where as opnsense seems to just throw those updates out there then fix things after. I know they beta test etc, but pfense seems to be more through from what i read
Wait before updating? What sorcery is this?
in my nightmare task of setting up my 4g card in my router I constantly ran across posts where the card just worked under pfsense while in opnsense it took me awhile to get it to start working with a limp
I also find most "plugins" is always supported by pfsense, but not opnsense
like nextdns is native, but not opnsense (even if I think nextdns is dead)
well i think they have to be vetted before they get added into pfense
is it any migration path from OS to PS without having to reinstall?
no idea, i think it needs a complete reinstall. i have no time to dive down that rabbit hole otherwise i had switched awhile ago
right now my opnsense works as I need it to so haven't been pressured to make that change
aside from a few ui diffrence they both look at act the same from what I saw
yeah, I agree. I just hit some snatches with opnsense that I dont like
I wish they was not built on bsd though
the original code that both pfense and opnsense forked from was built on bsd
thats why I think
actually opnsense had a bug that hit my drive in non stop and killed the whole system in a month hehe
I had some issue where the netflow or the insight was filling my drive way too quickly back when i first installed it but I turned that shit off
hey guys
hehe. I went on a two months vacation to the philippines, and after 1 week opnsense started to write non stop and killed the drive in a day
So i've bought a new property and the guy that buys my appartment will be taking over my Philips Hue system. My gutfeeling tells me this is the moment to reinstall HA and format my server. Right now my server is running HA, Sab, Sonarr, Radarr, Plex, and Adblocker.
Im running this on a headless ubuntu 21.04 server with a i5 and 8gb ram. Ive got one raid0 volume consisting of 2x 4tb and 1x 3tb.
My question is, what advice would you have for me if i reinstall this system?
If I reinstall, any thoughts about installing a VM in the bottom and run two instances of pfsense, one main and one testing?
or just one barebone?
well, my solid state relays for my Arduino/MQTT/HA project should be arriving in the mail today 😁
the 0 in raid0 stands for how much data you'll have left after the first error reading a sector
with it being 3 drives of disparate size, it's probably not raid 0. it's probably spanned. (which is as bad.)
but I'm a touch pedantic there
get a ssd
they are dirt cheap, especially used ones
Me even more so, cuz I read that as one raid0 volume consisting of 2x 4tb, AND a 3tb.
As in an array, and another drive.
small new ssds are still pretty cheap. and unless you're doing media stuff, HA doesn't need space.
(yes, it's all dependent on where you live.)
What's your issue with bsd?
BSD is where I started pretty much
Disgusting
*yuck
let's keep disgust easily searchable by discord browser
from: atxbyea in: off-topic yuck
(my discord is in polish so it looks a little other but i assume that's how it looks in english)
for now it's 149 results
@clear ferry let's make it round number
Yuck
nice
Yea, I made that after seeing that video and thinking about what it'd be good for.
I saw that one a while ago too but didn't really think about what I could use it for while watching it. I'm hoping it works well for holding more delicate weirdly shaped things while soldering/doing rotary tool work.
I still need to make a handle for it but otherwise it's done and working well.
3d print?
Yea
thought so. 🙂 The fill pattern was a bit of a giveaway 😄
Acetone bath
Honestly I probably could have removed the outer circle on it and still have enough to do what I want with it

I didn't use ABS
Nah, it's just PLA.
It's not like I'm going to use it to hold things I'm hammering on or anything
Honestly I don't think I'd use a normal fractal vice for that
stripes together 4 RAID1 arrays in RAID0
Yuck
RAID0 is actually pretty common in enterprise (RAID 10, 50, and 60), but it's not used alone.

A lot of database server clusters run RAID10, at least for some volumes, for performance reasons.
Yes, log drives still prefer 10, even though on San those raid levels are virtual
Depends on the SAN. HPs StorageWorks (non-Nible) SANs are weird about it.
Local RAID (which can be nested) + network RAID across SANs.
Wow storageworks
Haven't heard that name in 15 years
It stopped existing in the late00s
Yeah, because HPE bought Nimble and started replacing their storage stack with Nimble products 😛
Last system called storageworks was probably the Eva 4000
We have a couple servers with high RAM on raid 0 at work that we sometimes use for processing large amounts of data but they're used for ephemeral tasks and don't hold the only copy of anything
Nimble is very low install base compared to 3par
Only small customers buy nimble
That said, nimble has been dead a few years too
It's all alletra now
looks over at our largest customers, both running Nimble SANs
If they are labelled nimble they are probably out of support
One's a network of hospitals and the other is a network of car dealerships. Looks like they both have Nimble HF20H units.
can't really call 1+0 raid 0 😄
I mean, it is RAID 0, but you're RAID 0-ing logical disks instead of physical disks.
Hf20H is going end of life in 14 days
😄
I'll correct my statement. Don't use raid 0 for anything you care about, where your array is made up of just disks.
RAID 0+1 also exists, where you RAID1 together two RAID0 arrays, but you don't see that very often.
Don't get me started on chunklets and vvols
(don't bring up raid 0+1)
Too late <_<
grrr
Not out of support yet! lol
Barely
Apparently we re-upped in January with an HP care pack, so we're good
Are you in sales? <_<
Our engineers refuse to make the distinction between HP and HPE, our sales guys get real pissed about it. It's an ongoing battle. lol
No, I'm a regular dick, not a pretentious one
Atx in sales, can you imagine "buy this or you're disgusting"
"buy this or you are "yuck" "
114 hits on disgusting too from atx
You say that, but I've sealed a lot of sales deals
I mostly make atx say yuck and disgusting
New toys
Fun fact for you
The Norwegian name of it is directly translated as
Push-teaching

That's what I am going to do with it!
Same in German
Schieblehre
Ah, ich seehe
We call it calipers or just micrometer
Kaliper is a part of the car breaking system thank you
caliper
kăl′ə-pər
noun
An instrument consisting of two hinged legs, used to measure thickness and distances
Caliper(s) or calliper(s) are an instrument used to measure the dimensions of an object, generally by placing two movable points of the instrument across the object or span to be measured.Many types of calipers permit reading out a measurement on a ruled scale, a dial, or an electronic digital display. A common association is to calipers using ...
Lmfao I speak more than English tho
そのとうりですか
Digital calipers are generally worth having. and cheap if you don't need them to be really precise.
(vernier calipers are just neat)
I paid less than 5€ for mine. It came with a sticker that says it's made from carbon fiber
Calipers in general allow for 3 different kinds of measurement. outside width (the bottom one) inside width (upper one) and depth (the pokey bit at the end off screen)
😄
Yeah, I have a really cheap one from AliExpress, it is less than 0.5% off from my tests, which is fine enough for anything i do
I have what I suspect is that same Mitutoyo model and a cheap-o one from Amazon. The latter definitely has more play in it, but both will get you in the ballpark
for most of my stuff I need millimeter accuracy
the cheap-o one has some play around zero, while the Mitutoyo is dead on
how much play do you think?
I used a cheap one for a bit but it annoyed me to the point of buying a nice one. The cheap one started flickering all of the numbers at once and I'm pretty sure it's haunted now.
The Mitutoyo feels really nice and the ruler I bought from them too feels really nice. 🙂
Why does the ruler have gibberish written on it though? 😛
Ǐ̴̕ ̶͐̔ẅ̶́̀o̷͒̑ů̸̐l̷̈́͝d̵̕n't want t̵̀̊h̸͗͝a̵̚t
The worst measuring tool I've ever used is this one roll tape measure that instead of having readings like 120cm has readings for 1m, then 10cm after that and then 1cm intervals after that. So you have to look at the 1 meter mark, then the 10cm mark and then finally the 1cm mark to know where you're at. I've had my measurements off by either 10cm or 1m so many times it's insane
Whoever designed it needs to be waterboarded
also has inches on one side so you can't use it at all
What the fuck
I think it's this one from Biltema, but unfortunately it doesn't show how dumb it is
so after 10cm it starts from 1 again
What
10+1 you know, genius
It's like 10 second Tom from 50 first dates, it gets to 10 and resets
I should get a Japanese tape measure to practice counting
Or you could just practice Japanese counting looking at numbers
for cultures that use ,,xxx'' instead of "xxx", are there special characters or are the "quotes" just built from commas and single quotes?
idk what they use but there are proper characters for that
Normal quote" Open/Close quote“ ” Lower quote„ Normal tick ' Close tick ’ Lower tick‚
Lower tick‚ Comma,
Hmm, I guess they look slightly different
special characters
\grqq and \glqq in latex iirc
though it also just depends on the software you work with. Most modern word processors (like word) just convert " accordingly
And I know some people that do ,, and '' which looks silly in monospaced fonts&&
They appear on the keyboard
But everything is ok, as long as you don't << and >>
which layout? 🤔
Depends on the locale
« » ‹ ›
Duh. Which one do they show up as dedicated glyphs?
Mostly the upside down are spanish
The upside down question marks, quotes and bangs
I think it's alt gr + 2
alt gr is blue
Shift+2 is the normal quote
If anything, it's the red one close to [enter], but not quite sure
I wish US keyboards gave us more symbols with an Alt Gr key
We just get a second alt key
Alt + 0161
Or if it was easier to do my own doubleshot keycaps I'd totally make my own with additional symbols and make my own layout
Just us the Alt(Gr)-Intl variants
¡ AltGr+Shift+1
i have been in and out of here... and i am honestly unsure what i stumbled back in upon... 🤪
yes
no
maybe
I don't know
Fun fact for the Americans, norwegian law says anyone one can travel across nature or coastline, even if it is owned by someone else, and it is illegal to fence in such areas because everyone should be able to use the nature
Ja
right to roam 🙂
anyways, atx I'll make camp on your roof
Morning ☕
Norwegian isn't best wegian though. that's Glaswegian 😉
Reminded me of this one
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⚡️ we should harvest that juice somehow
we could build large towers of meat, so we have thunder cooked meat
lets call it „Der Gerät“
:D
Thats already taken by the Kebab Robot >D
We can build a tower of atx's hard drives
Someone's been playing too much Minecraft
mayhaps
finally got my Arduino/MQTT/HA project installed in my Workshop, as the temperature was climbing. was 79F when i finished, now it reads 87F... really need to finish installing some A/C out there so i can work 🥵
is your project a crypto miner?
Lol, Arduino Crypto mining https://www.hackster.io/grant_m/arduino-crypto-miner-d105b0
the definition of "because I can"
the project isn't creating that heat. the weather is, from the sun beating down on my workshop. and it is 89F now, and climbing.
I think I could do more hashes per hour on paper with a pen LOL
that's cute
it's 96.1F here atm real feel is like 103F
We had an alert for a server room hitting 103 F last night. Fun stuff 👀
A/C units always seem to fail at the worst time
Because I can I now send and receive messages through discord
*emails
🤔
84% sounds about right
It's the 16% that's raccoon
Dog detection is hit and miss for me. Wish it was 💯
@last cedar Kindly remove yourself from my back patio
Buy more drones
DOG omg
I thought we were friends!
Just wait till you see what I did under your shed
Morning ☕
Oh, to live in the past, before the Aliens invaded
(you can tell the world doesn't like Americans. We don't send messages back in time to warn you about things.)
i'm lost... 😕
(It's not morning for me 😉 )
oh, i get it now... 🤣
(I'm being a touch foolish for comedic porpoises)
only a touch? 😉
I'm also british. So I'm allowed, nay required, to use understatement.
my condolences 😉
planning on moving somewhere?
I support Scottish Independence. 🙂 But that's getting into politics which is often a risky topic
my father's side has Scottish decent (Stewart) through his mother 🙂
Stewart on my Mother's side. Anderson on my Dads 😄
so we are related 🤣
now, i was told that the bloodline goes back to King James Stewart... is that correct
ehhh, maybe?
lol
everyones related if you go back far enough
i personally don't subscribe to the adam and eve theory. but i suppose even with evolution, we are all descended from a bacteria or something
They've already confired that during the iceage there was a bottleneck and everyone is basically related to ~10,000 females
There's the mitochondrial eve, isn't there?
In human genetics, the Mitochondrial Eve (also mt-Eve, mt-MRCA) is the matrilineal most recent common ancestor (MRCA) of all living humans. In other words, she is defined as the most recent woman from whom all living humans descend in an unbroken line purely through their mothers and through the mothers of those mothers, back until all lines con...
(not at all related to the biblical eve, other than someone thinking the name was fitting.)
and Genghis Khan is related to most of us too
Wtf, I had one last night too. They're invading.
Looks like he ran across my roof then leaped to my driveway
I reset my router, and I think this is the first time I used home.arpa as domain name, to keep to the declared standard
I've always used netham45.local
I use a subdomain of my global routed domain
Makes it easy to dns01 a valid certificate from letsencrypt
I used to do that but quit running anything I expose public so I don't really care what my domain is anymore.
Might have been the same one
Only thing open on my IP is my VPN
That entire subdomain isn't visible outside
Except for the dns01 challenge on cert refresh
I just like using https at home
And it came pretty handy because it's apparently a requirement for quic
Honestly I don't have any services hosted at home anymore, my home server is down to just frigate, pfsense, pihole, and HA.
And some file shares
When I used home.arpa dns resolve server, server.local and server.home.arpa so I think it went well
Does llama release mean we will get a localhost language model for HA?
70B params is quite close to chatGPT
I have 512GB ram to spare 😏
your swapfile on your hdd does not count as ram
It's not exactly difficult to load up a machine with 512GB of RAM. That's just 4x 128 GB modules.
Though you'll usually see 8x 64GB or 16x 32GB modules in order to take advantage of more memory channels
And then you've got Samsung putting 512GB onto a single stick of DDR5
Memory capacity is kinda going nuts right now 👀
We've had 256 dimms for years already
I installed 24 of them last year as an upgrade
You're a DIMM
True, though DDR5 allows for much higher capacities thanks to how it's structured, without resorting to octal-rank
Any opinions on the best hardware android tv? I can't stand the lag of the chromecast. Seems like Nvidia Shield Pro is top dog but seems to have a old chip in tegra x1, but maybe that type of chip doesn't get old. Does anything else exist that is slightly less expensive but not as slow as a Chromecast?
or a Fire TV Cube 3rd gen if you want the fastest
or a used 2nd gen one, if you want good price/performance
apple tv's should also be fairly competent
Time to replace my entire storage array with a single ssd
Lmao
Who even uses HDDs these days?
people who need capacity for linux distros
but SSD prices are looking quite juicy these days so that probably won't last for long
And if you need long-term storage HDDs are afaik still better than SSDs
we do be halfway there
for stuff that needs to keep running or that just does so, using ssds feel much better both on power consumption and on durability
I was surprised to see that the newer nvme ssds actually use a fair bit of power. Around 8W or so in some cases which isn't that far off from HDDs
For enterprise i haven't installed hdds outside of corner cases since probably 2015
By corner cases I mean HPC distributed long time storage or stuff like Scality that has no real penalties from HDDs
8W peak, sustained or average? 🤔
those were probably reading or writing numbers. While idle they use very little I think
Spec sheet for the 870s I have here says some milliwatt idle, I think around 1.8 typical and 4W peak
I looked at some options yesterday, but I can't quickly find the one that was up to 8W. Samsung 970 Evo Plus is specced 6W avg while writing for the 1TB model
Most likely during heavy writes and such. Samsung's 990 pro states this, for example
AVERAGE POWER CONSUMPTION
(SYSTEM LEVEL)3)
1TB: Average 5.4 W Maximum 7.8 W (Burst mode)
2TB: Average 5.5 W Maximum 8.5 W (Burst mode)
POWER CONSUMPTION (IDLE)3)
1TB: Max. 50 mW
2TB: Max. 55 mW
POWER CONSUMPTION (DEVICE SLEEP)
1TB: Max. 5 mW
2TB: Max. 5 mW
6W avg is quite something. Though I suspect that's while it's hitting the SLC level cache and shuffling things to load balance 🤔
These drives are getting pretty fast so the sustained writes wouldn't last too long before the whole drive is full unless you're doing something very silly
For pretty much every consumer drive they only last until you fill a smaller cache either way
Right
The 990 Pro can still keep writing speeds of 1400MB/s after the cache is full so that side is getting better as well it seems
I have a external sandisk pro and that thing gets 🔥 almost instant.
And it stays that way as long as its connected, no matter if i write/read or nothing. Why do these controllers not chill?
The sd card getting written at 100Mb/s laughs its ass off
Is {2,} two or more?
That's a weird one then
With the different escaping for the - and dot
the - is escaped in one place as they'll want a literal - to be an option, rather than it being part of a range. and the . as a literal ., rather than any character
yea, but it's altha-num+-, a literal backspace (\\ in the image) then any character, then the next parens
a classical the\nthe error ^^
that's usually the problem with regex 😄
it's also got an extra )
I try not to use regex if I don't need to. but they're really handy when I do.
parser combinators are often easier to write and understand. And probably even higher performance
I really see it as tool of easily distributed or "save api code" validators
tbh, main place I use them is in vi 😄
Ah yes, substitution statements
Morning ☕ (4:33AM)
That's an ungodly hour
my usual wake up time...
Even i don't wake up that early with two kids
When they were less than 6 months they might wake up at 6am
Hello
I imagine you mean 'coordinator'
I generally had to just use some of the devices and maybe repair a few, but that was trivial
Just make the IEEE address match
yea, I'll have to swap channel/password at some point as I've been lazy on the initial setup
I dread it
yeah, when the usb boot first arrived to the pi4, a lot of people were having issues simply because they didn't have the juice
wow
I think I just replied to something who knows how long ago
I entered my message and my discord scrolled down
Zoom!
It's not wrong
There was a scooter picture on reddit the other day made by one of dem AI's and it was brain breaking
it has an engine and cycles. Easy
I've seen some crappy motorcycles
I feel like it's one of 'racing riding mowers' things
the one in white look sok. The one in front breaks my mind
and it's not even that wrong I think
ai really be taking over anything :^)
🤦♂️

Which acronym should be used? GUID or UUID?
isnt second just the standard
UUID is defined by an RFC/is generally what Linux uses, GUID is defined by Microsoft and is generally what Windows uses.
They're both essentially identical though
Almost
While GUIDs (as used by Microsoft) and UUIDs (as defined by RFC4122) look similar and serve similar purposes, there are subtle-but-occasionally-important differences. Specifically, some Microsoft GUID docs allow GUIDs to contain any hex digit in any position, while RFC4122 requires certain values for the version and variant fields. Also, GUIDs should be all-upper case, whereas UUIDs should be "output as lower case characters and are case insensitive on input". This can lead to incompatibilities between code libraries.
I still have ptsd from recovering guid used for booting on itanium
If a library rejects a GUID/UUID because it's not cased right that's a shitty library
Yea, unless you have a bloody good reason not to, just treat them as opaque string or 128bit of randomness
You are 128 bits of randomness
Nah. I might have 16 or so
16 bytes?
You're welcom
Obligatory mega-bite joke
One of many wonderful commercials John Cleese did for Compaq Computer Corporation in the mid to late '80s.
A very rare find and a treasure for any John Cleese fan, these classic ads were shown only in Great Britian.
only 22 pounds 😮
There are at least two reported cases of improperly serviced computers exploding when the non-rechargeable lithium battery on the motherboard was connected to the power supply.[7] There were no recorded injuries.
At least they just catch fire today
progress!
Imagine that that was the state of the art when I was in high school
Thankfully the EU is stepping up in regards to batteries
We’ll see. I’m betting on Wrong Solution Too Late, and we’ll somehow end up with something like the cookie consent fiasco.
Does anyone really have time for all the interweb cookie consent pop up’s these days
No
The issue with cookie consent is mostly a lack of enforcement:(
Who came up with this consent crap?
Mostly TrustArc
The default should just be essential cookies or no cookies, but captialism don't want any of that nonsense
Cavemen would love these lithium batteries just randomly setting on fire when you bash them with a big stick, think how much easier their life would have been
Come at me bro
Websites without a button to decline all cookies as easily clickable as the one to allow all cookies, are agaisnt the EU's law.
Just write a friendly legal text attached with a fine a few times and those websites will change.
Still the whole thing is a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.
There was a scare thay since cookies save data on your computer they could contain viruses. Tracking considerations were an afterthought.
Best one I've seen is still sap concur, if I block tracking cookies in my firewall the application errors out saying the server is down
Because it defaults to all cookies
Morning ☕ (04:42am)
Does anyone know a reliable way to convert my SVG to only use path?
I have some <text> in it and it renders differently on machines depending on installed fonts
Photoshop doesn't seem to do it. GIMP also gave me some errors when I tried. 🤷
And some online tools I used made the text bold despite it not being bold in any of my browsers and devices
Wtf. You can’t just use the words ”best” and ”sap concur” in the same sentence like that without warning people first. Now I have coffee all over my table!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqa3W9rcuAw why this doesn't work with HA?
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Do you guys use a different ssh key on each computer / user or keep one for multiple servers/github etc
I assume you are talking about the server side, not multiple terminals?
I split by domain
I.e. github has a dedicated key, work github has a hardware backed key, home-lab has its own key, and so on
I use the same for each plattform. So aws got its own, the home ones, and so on
so one private key you put on your server and use the public on clients or the other way?
The private always stays with you
I also only have one real client. Which houses the private keys
but lots of servers to connect to
alright so just push them to auth keys around
I was thinking about starting to implement passphrases soon too though
They make some sense, but really id rather have 2fa
passphrases 🤔 that's close to the worst choice
I like my ssh agent. It's a keepass addon. and I can get it to prompt me for use of a key. so I agent forward, and have to approve each use.
(it's compatible with paegent, so widely integrated)
I also use ssh agent with 1password
I still need to invest some time at some point to get the TPM based stuff up and running...
But the TPM story on linux is sad
the risk with agent forwarding is you connect to a compromised machine, which then auths through you to other machines. hence requiring approval. sure, not a high risk, but not inconcievable.
yeah very true
Im just too lazy to setup 1password cli on my servers, and also using 1password vault for docker and env evironmentals. dunno why I am so slow to get it done
yea, agent forwarding is slightly iffy
I just wish the fancy magic we use at work was supported by normal infra 😦
We get ssh certificates loaded onto the hardware secure element
Did someone say yubikey
🤮
we use Titans, but they aren't much different
they are great
yea, I have 3 titans and 2 yubis^^
oh, and a nitrokey somewhere. But that one's for different purposes
It's kinda funny that a dedicated tpm is less secure than an on cpu virtual one. (due to being able to tap the traces a lot more easily on a dedicated one.)
which is already a pretty advanced hardware based attack
though one of my colleagues executed it against our own hardware to show that it's possible
all about your risk profile, tbh
jup
encryption at rest is mostly a box ticking measure anyway 😄
mostly because people like me make those boxes^^
oh wait, you mean because it's on a list, not because it's that easy
yea, those boxes suck^^
Though for laptops I do see it as an important measure. For on prem stuff, less so
Yes, have self encrypting drives. Which have their key stored on the raid controller in the box. you're safe from someone stealing just the drives. that's it.
laptops are another matter, yes 🙂
ok boys inceptions over we know where the keys are
yea, we do measured boot with a system that doesn't allow local access
(inception may have been a somewhat dodgy concept. but the actors do well 😄 )
I'll fap to anything with Tom Hardy
now kiss
ooo, I'd forgotten Nemesis.
I moved HA from docker to a VM now
Yuck
its better to contain the core things into a VM
sql, mqtt, logging etc is not part of the vm image
Yes, layers of abstraction makes things better when the host needs a reboot anyway 😂

Reboot? 🤮
I dont plan to reboot the host anyways haha. I see your point of view. I have now tried PI (horrible), Yellow (well its a PI but the 8GB, still horrible), an i3 NUC (good I would say), VM with custom supervisor (good, but too much could go wrong), docker (good, fast, no need for passthrough, but services sometimes get issues), vm with officially haos (still testing, but it seems like the best solution)
_narrator : it wasn't _
Narrator: Aleks was last seen, cigarette in hand clutching a whiskey bottle
services get issues? 🤔
I can run it in docker too
But for production I have haos
I have container I started on in a vm too
🤣😂
I see no need for heavier OS than haos on a vm. At least now when you can mount network drives I don’t see a single reason for not doing something more complex
Heavier? 🤔 a VM is already heavy o.0
You're doing it wrong
a VM uses like 2-5 percent overhead. I dont run it on a nuc, but a server
Vms should have very little host overhead
Yuck vms
🤮 yuck atx spoke
I used to run xenserver with even less hit
Good thing 'probably' isn't an actual statistic
hehehe. Im sure you know what you are talking about, but not everything neeeds to be to “by the book”
I can only assume, since you aren't @steel crag
I rather sun in a VM anyday over a PI

I am certified in vm hypervisors tho
This is the better option, but then again, Ebola in Africa is better than a pi
Quite a few, but I never claimed to be 'most'
2-5% more than nothing 🤷
To be fair, since they expire I only hold 3 active VMware certs, but I am also probably the only one here who understands vpars, npars, hpvm and a few more
Reminds me, need to book my VCAP exams
I still need to book my CKS exam^^
and that is great for a business environment
but not where people use login root/password
Why would people do that? o.0
banks also cried out about TLS3 having security 😂
there's a rather sad reality about the security of quite a couple of contexts where you'd expect it to be relevant
Banks are the worst in general, unless they are offshore banks
Then they have some of the best security 🤣😂
This was in Oslo, so probably @clear ferry been hired to install windows xp on them :p
Thankfully no
The atms are usually appliances from the producer, the bank at best has labels and custom images in the software
The VM benefit is stuff like snapshots. And those are well worth it 😄
do you mean live snapshots? 'cause otherwise it's strictly worse than containers o.0
you dont halt your vms to make a backup? 😨
well, not strictly. You have to store a hash next to the exposed file systems. Which is clearly difficult
it always ends up breaking if i dont
i better aint fucking around to find out eventually
Sounds like good old pebkac then
jokes on you better get up from the chair then :^)
luckily stuff isnt painful with proxmox at least
My condolences
PBS takes backups without halting VMs though, might want to check it out
i see i see
Live snapshots 🙂
hell, you can get fully consistent ones, not just crash consistent. (though that's more of a pain in the ass)
I have my Proxmox server set to do differential backups to my PBS server every two hours.
I have 2x4TB drives in a mirror for my backup server (not much actually needs backed up) and PBS says that's going to last me nearly two years at my current rate.
I finally got my rsnapshot backup down from 850GB to 330GB
Your backups should be on another machine, yes.
Anything I care about
Your backups should be on at least two different machines from the local copy
Cloud storage is cheap
i do abuse my two nas for such stuff
but not sure if its a splendid idea to set up pbs as a vm there
I run pbs as a vm on a proxmox box, I have a secondary pfSense and DNS server on the same box too.
I like having the backup pfSense box so I can keep everyone's internet up if I ever need to work on my main server.
guess i need to buy more memory and figure out a network share for storage to make this work nicely
I can restore to so many snapshots.
Lol, that's only like three weeks in that screenshot.
Fun, my power went out again.
And apparently I don't have my amp on a UPS because my music cut out
u guys have power outages?
Thats the American dream after all
Fueled by five burgers per gun shot
once every 5-10 years due to maintenance with a notification in the mail a week prior
Like 4 times a year, one of which is generally a couple hours
It was only out for maybe 45s today
Just long enough to reset all the clocks
I have around 8000VA of UPS though so power outages mostly just annoy me because I can't run my aircon.
I have at least some lighting in all rooms on a battery
i just have a standby generator...
and a UPS for my server rack (with now one server)
My plan is to use my car as a generator to charge UPSes if it ever gets to it.
i feel like those ups are fairly dangerous
Been using them for decades, never had any issues.
I've worked on some scary big ones at work too
always feels like they gonan explode and burn the whole house down
The ones where if you short the contacts with a wrench it'll weld to the contacts
the workplace ones kinda feel not amazon™️ quality
idk, I've never even noticed one getting hot.
most UPS have lead AGM batteries
The only issues I've ever had with them were related to diminished capacity due to age
yuck
are you charging that car battery? 😮
i'm discharging the car battery
this better be certified :^)
one of the 14 packs was not charged as much as the others, so i gave it a quick charge
i have certification for it, let me get it
signed by oberfail™️
I need a couple of those for our lab...
I should also put on some of my savety ones...
i love em
also a great one
why did I go and look for the stickers and not just take a picture of the one on my laptop 🤔
I need more stickers for my laptop either way...
go ahead
this site couldnt be more german
9️⃣
why is it so hard to find where the fiberoptics go into the house. The most obvious spot I cant find anything. Its no network laid in this house when it was build. it was a cheapstake that bought this house an put ONE electric plug in each room, and one network outlet in the living room in a weird place
saaaaaaaad panda linuxserver no longer supports ARMv7
cries in third world
lol.
It's probably cut and dumped inside the wall
Hello @inner ferry . Quick question about how to manage threads on the community forum. I want to manage my thread about a custom component I'm developping. But I see there is a max of three consecutive answers for the same user. Which is a shame, because if I want to post updates, but not remove the history, I can't. How is the best way to handle that ?
There was no point in tagging some poor random sod
That's a global setting, sadly, so we can't just change it for you
That said, Google found me:
Did the user create the topic in the first place? If it is their topic, they have the right to reply as many times as they like.
Also, you can edit the first couple of posts.
For three months, at least.
Then you can ask the admins what to do about your monster size thread (or what passes for one at the time) and somehow be made a forum moderator in a desperate lack of options or something…
… I’ve heard…
is that what happened to Tinkerer? 🤔