the-water-cooler

[late gate]

?

[clear ferry]

?

Custom WAN DNS with Dynamic IP ?

[late gate]

yes, dhcp ip

and static dns

[clear ferry]

You mean override the ISP DNS ?

[late gate]

yes

[clear ferry]

Yes

[glacial knot]

IPv6 is nice, they thought it should not rely on a sane L2 and put a bunch of stuff into L3 that should be L2

[clear ferry]

it has always been there

I push all my upstream DNS to cloudflare via DoT

and intercept rogue DNSv4

[late gate]

where? on my wan page it just let me set dhcp or static ip, no choise for dns

[late gate]

im an idiot yeah lol

[clear ferry]

I'm not contesting that

I still love you

[late gate]

haha! yeah I take it

using nextdns still after trying it out a month or so. quite happy with it

[clear ferry]

I just do the blocking in opnsense

full control

[late gate]

in unbound, the blocking option there?

[clear ferry]

yes

[late gate]

nextdns give great control to. can choose the blocklists

a lot of options actually

[clear ferry]

mmmm relying on a third party service upstream

[late gate]

for something as easy as ad blocking I have no worries about

[clear ferry]

brb, implement 802.1x auth on all ports and wifi via Azure AD

[green inlet]

@static schooner weren’t you the one with the Lenovo smart clock that wasn’t a 2? Did you ever get it to do anything? I stumbled onto one with Alexa.

[static schooner]

Yes, but I haven't played with it in a while

[green inlet]

Everything I have found is for a version 2

[static schooner]

Yeah, the hacks didn't result in anything that I could do on the ones I have

I'll get back to them at some point and see if I can figure something out

[strong epoch]

Huh. ChatGPT just suggested I install homeassistant. Neat.

[clear ferry]

then you probably shouldn't

[strong epoch]

lol

I'm impressed it wrote the automation for me!

[clear ferry]

you could have just asked and @last cedar would have done the same

[static schooner]

I'm surprised that it didn't tell you to install Supervised

[clear ferry]

On proxmox

in lxc

[clever mortar]

I'll be more surprised if the automation isn't full of bugs

[static schooner]

there used to be a popular channel call #hassio-on-docker, so I guess I'll just send them there

[clear ferry]

bofa?

[last cedar]

I would have done anything if trash was involved

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/byLdP.gif

[forest edge]

no, not got around to it. so your having calibration issues after recalibration?

[static schooner]

just a weird reading that took a power cycle to correct

dunno what caused it

[forest edge]

i do

the machine was designed by monkys

[static schooner]

the process is easy - turn it off and hit the buttons in the order they say

it went from ~40% to 122% and blinking and back to ~50% after a powercycle

[forest edge]

50 with an empty drawer?

[static schooner]

no, about half full

I believe the 50%, it's the 122% that crazy

[forest edge]

was kind of curious. that recalibration says to use a white piece of paper. the trash bags we use are white, the bags that came with the unit were clear.. what are the odds, the drawer sensor being related to the bag being white lol

[static schooner]

dunno. and the poop isn't white either, so...

[forest edge]

litter is grey

actually some litter is white

[static schooner]

it's not just a bed of litter down there

[forest edge]

I had switched to bigger bags to not deal with stretching the small ones around the drawer lip. kind of wondering now if the bagginess sticking in around the sides might be some of my issues lol

[subtle pasture]

It's usually considered bad practice to have your edge device run a web server on itself. I'm doing the same as @clear ferry and running my reverse proxy behind my firewall, for that reason.

It's possible to do it safely, but it's a lot easier to make a mistake that exposes the web server to exploit when it's running on the firewall itself.

It's also really easy to screw up Webadmin access to your firewall, because both the firewall's internal webserver, and the reverse proxy, want to bind to port 80 and port 443. So now you're dealing with multiple virtual interfaces, port binding, etc.

Mistakes just get... a lot easier when you try to roll everything into one.

[late gate]

Very true. I know its bad practise, but was thinking not to let every service be down if a server had an issue. I would never do it in production / business. Will reconcider though as I like traefik

[prisma briar]

Just run opnsense in a VM

Instead of everything on opnsense

[late gate]

Yeah thats possible too, but mixed opinions about that

[finite atlas]

it all depends on how paranoid you wanna be about your IT stuff

the more paranoid you wanna be, the more isolation you will add

[prisma briar]

'Paranoid' kind of implies that the need for caution is unfounded, it's not.

Don't host publicly-facing webservers on servers that do other important things.

[glacial knot]

If you run vms, make sure the host has smt disabled
And that the vms aren't accelerated
Otherwise might as well just run in a "container" built of cgroups and chroot

[prisma briar]

Running a VM without any host-side acceleration/paravirtualization is going to be really slow.

Disabling SMT is reasonable if you can take the performance hit. I don't personally do it on my boxes, though, much in the same way I don't put bars over my windows even though I know that'd increase my home security -- I think the real-world chance of it being meaningful is rather low and it would be too much of an inconvenience.

I'd say that you can leave SMT on if the platform's SMT doesn't have exploits but is there even a platform without SMT exploits?

[glacial knot]

SMT off on an assumed compromised VM is critical
If you don't do it, don't bother at all

[prisma briar]

I just don't host publicly-facing stuff at home.

I've got a single port open for my VPN

[glacial knot]

SMT is known to break isolation
Once core isolation scheduling comes around it might be reasonable to do
Otherwise partition or no smt

[prisma briar]

If you're running known-compromised VMs you should probably have a dedicated box for just that.

[glacial knot]

If you assume that a container isn't fine, that's your model

[prisma briar]

Even with SMT enabled and a leaky unmitigated CPU, a separate VM or container for your webserver is going to be way more secure than running a webserver directly on your opnsense install, though.

A non-zero part of security is simply making yourself a less appealing target so people will move on to easier servers if they ever do get access to something on your end. If all they see is a VM with a webservers installed they're going to be a lot less likely to poke further than if they see it running on an opnsense instance or a desktop with browsers and user profiles on it.

[dusky plank]

who of us makes 1 web facing website on this web server we discuss rn?
we all just proxy them, don't we?

so if you're that strict you should propably handle the other vms the same way

[prisma briar]

Unless you're running something like a WAF or filtering on it a reverse proxy isn't really a security layer.

[dusky plank]

I built my own WAF

it's actually fairly simple, a 5xx or multiple 4xx just blocks the ip

[prisma briar]

When I think of WAF I think more of something inspecting requests looking for anomalies like SQL injections and weirdly-sized data blocks, things that won't necessarily throw a 4xx or 5xx.

Things like Apache's mod_security

[dusky plank]

mod_security isn't waf but more like owasp for me but yeah thats a standard

[prisma briar]

owasp is a security-focused group, who does things like maintain rulesets for mod_security

[dusky plank]

so that should already cover the injections then

[prisma briar]

As long as you remember that things like mod_security are imperfect and are largely reactionary instead of proactive when new exploits come around, yea, it's a benefit to have.

It's definitely not an alternative to keeping your sites and servers frequently updated.

[glacial knot]

I need to look into properly securing my grafana instance so I can share snapshots on it,instead of routing over their service all the time

[finite atlas]

i run a web facing website without a proxy or proper firewall or ssl, just port blocking

runs on proxmox inside a container

[dusky plank]

cringe @finite atlas

[finite atlas]

i like to live on the edge

[glacial knot]

No tls D:

[finite atlas]

IoS
internet of shit

[umbral cliff]

I prefer LoT, local of things

Lol

[clear ferry]

You mean IoT

Intranet of Things

This is the problem with three letter abbreviations

[dusky plank]

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze now you got tornados! you guys are cursed lmao

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/mo94F9DeiNo

[clever mortar]

https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/23/23653037/another-day-and-another-giant-youtube-channel-hacked

[umbral cliff]

it’s beyond time YouTube helped protect creators from falling victims to this.
Isn't that just providing creators with things like 2FA, etc. Which they do already

[clever mortar]

Yup

I mean, there's ways around TOTP and SMS MFA, but using something like WebAuthN solves those

[umbral cliff]

Love the blame the company for user stupidity

[forest edge]

How else are people going to get bitcoin back up to ridiculous worth?

[last cedar]

They each have their own post code omg

[finite atlas]

i dont like that video, because i'm in it :(

[clear ferry]

Finally some good news

[finite atlas]

you love me that much, dont you

[clear ferry]

Are you Linus?

[finite atlas]

oh the article

[clear ferry]

Yes

[finite atlas]

yes, great news

turned from quirky shit posting with best intends to very shallow topics with no love behind the videos

[clear ferry]

Curious if my plan will work @glacial knot

I'm gonna present a /64 network on a seperate VLAN to my kube vms, then configure metalLB to use said /64 to provision services, and have it populate cloudflare with the correct ipv6 address per service 🤔

[glacial knot]

Should work
I haven't used metallb, but if that can pick v6 addresses properly

[clear ferry]

yes

[hollow glacier]

@clear ferry i found a new wallpaper for us

https://reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/11zg04t/ltt_got_hacked_and_its_being_used_for_crypto/

[clear ferry]

yes

such great news

https://tenor.com/bLwwW.gif

[hollow glacier]

https://giphy.com/gifs/HBOMax-hbomax-the-great-gatsby-2013-thegreatgatsbyonhbomax-BPJmthQ3YRwD6QqcVD

[scenic radish]

https://youtu.be/MFDiuBomSuY

🤣

[scenic radish]

|| it's not what you think, and the same goes for Linus ||

[orchid rose]

Yeah that was hilarious

[static schooner]

I was with Linus and hadn't ever heard the other meaning

[glacial knot]

Is the C in your name for Canada?

[scenic radish]

Nah it's for United States of America

[late gate]

I got invited to Altibox for discussing a role as architect. I really should ask for free internet!

[static schooner]

It apparently stands for "too old and out of touch with the youngsters and their strange ways of talking"

[desert karma]

is there a matrix room bridged to this discord?

[orchid rose]

I didn't think of the other meaning either 👴

[forest edge]

centenarian?

[clear ferry]

what the, hard R for N word what

[forest edge]

hard r has stood for the mentally challenged for as long as i can remember so this newly found link to it having anything to do with the n word can only be from ignorance

[clear ferry]

Yes, my friend Robert California

[dusky plank]

I just got a new mavic 3 drone and holy cow these things have astonishing cameras on board

[orchid rose]

even the cheap one I got was incredible. If I only had some artistic talent...

[dusky plank]

reminded me when I got my first DSLR, but this is x times better and also flies

[orchid rose]

Now you can only blame yourself if the footage isn't quite on the level of Emmanuel Lubezki

[daring jolt]

is this related to home assistant

its kinda ironic given the ban on ai in the forums

[dusky plank]

domains, entity types, tuya_local and custom_components should've answered your question regarding the relation to HA

and I hope you do realize that current ai is still no magic hat where you can pull stuff out, all it gives you is a mixture of something someone else already wrote in the past

[prisma briar]

I've never heard of 'hard r' meaning that before, personally. I've only heard the racial epithet meaning.

I realized pretty early on that that's not what Linus was talking about during that WAN show segment but I had no idea what he was actually talking about until it was clarified

[low harness]

You’ll never guess what I saw at this time of day, at this time of year, in this part of the country!

[dusky plank]

Northern Lights ?

[prisma briar]

Either that or he caught his oven on fire

[daring jolt]

yeah i thought so

[daring jolt]

yeah that was kinda why i was posting

[orchid rose]

That's very pog

[green inlet]

I have been looking at the maveric 3…..I am guessing you like it

Hoping that is the regular version you are talking about and not the Cine version

[mellow parcel]

m2 ssd ordered

[forest edge]

likely because you didn't hear about that saying till some goofball got it mixed up and just ran with it.

[forest edge]

Norwegians as Russia invades. https://youtu.be/4hpEnLtqUDg

[dusky plank]

it is awesome, I bought the classic so no tele lens but the hasselblad is stunning enough. lol cine version

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze not heard from you since the tornado.. you lose internet access in the process of moving to texas?

[glacial knot]

I had some weird glitch in my GPS location and all my automations for when I leave triggered D:

[clear ferry]

Speed running you say

Or just IDCLIP

[clear ferry]

lål calling the local tax administration to figure out the american stock bullshit i've been awarded

wait time is..... fifty.. two... minutes

[glacial knot]

D: communism!

[clear ferry]

Next time they say they want to award me €20k in stock I'll just tell them to fuck off, because american stock and banking systems is like a stupid Asterix and Obelix movie

For reference

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x36574i?retry

[golden wing]

anyone have recommendations for a reed switch to keep track of a garage door?

looking into the whole shelly + reed switch smart garage door thing

[clear ferry]

any 5 pack at $1 will do from aliexpress

I've run one of those small plastic ones for 3 years now

@glacial knot can't get metallb to assign ipv6 addresses at all 🤔

[glacial knot]

Mildly not surprised tbh.

[clear ferry]

it just says "no ip avaliable" when I try

docs just say it should work

apiVersion: metallb.io/v1beta1
kind: IPAddressPool
metadata:
  name: doc-example-combined
  namespace: metallb-system
spec:
  addresses:
  - 10.0.100.0/28
  - 2002:2:2::1-2002:2:2::100

is in the docs, I just removed the ipv4 field and put in my own range at ipv6

curious if the range has to be in a specific cidr, woudn't think so

I gave it aaaa:aaaa:aaaa:aaaa:aaaa::1-aaaa:aaaa:aaaa:aaaa:aaaa::100

I have a whole /48 that is aaaa:aaaa:aaaa::/48 and I just gave it my aaaa:aaaa:aaaa:subnet:metallb::1

which is a valid ipv6 🤔

https://tenor.com/byLdP.gif

[storm niche]

Dear Admins, if I got an exclusive price for a smarthome device with a coupon what I can share with others, what would be the official way to do this here on discord? If its not against the rules of course.

[last cedar]

Exactly

[clear ferry]

yaaas queen

{"caller":"service_controller.go:60","controller":"ServiceReconciler","level":"info","start reconcile":"web/web-server-service","ts":"2023-03-24T10:14:50Z"}
{"caller":"service.go:140","error":"no available IPs","level":"error","msg":"IP allocation failed","op":"allocateIPs","ts":"2023-03-24T10:14:50Z"}

😠

[last cedar]

Computer speak for "it's fucked"

[glacial knot]

@clear ferry have you tried keeping some V4 addresses around? Maybe it's v4/dualstack but not v6 only 🤔

[clear ferry]

nein

[glacial knot]

I've seen bugs like that. Where v6 support was bolted on after the fact and a couple || checks never made it in D:

[clear ferry]

interesting, now that I told it which pool to use specifically

{"caller":"service_controller.go:60","controller":"ServiceReconciler","level":"info","start reconcile":"web/web-server-service","ts":"2023-03-24T10:39:15Z"}
{"caller":"service.go:140","error":"no available IPs in pool \"production\" for ipv4 IPFamily","level":"error","msg":"IP allocation failed","op":"allocateIPs","ts":"2023-03-24T10:39:15Z"}

so the service requests an ipv4, not an ipv6

In order for MetalLB to allocate IPs to a dual stack service, there must be at least one address pool having both addresses of version v4 and v6.

🤔

[glacial knot]

Yea, I guess I'm right 😄
It's mostly the dumbest answer if the question is why code doesn't work

[clear ferry]

well, I have assigned ipv4 to the pool now too

but it still only assigns ipv4

[glacial knot]

What network plugin do you use?

[clear ferry]

you mean the CNI ?

[glacial knot]

Yes

[clear ferry]

weave

[glacial knot]

https://kubernetes.io/docs/concepts/extend-kubernetes/compute-storage-net/network-plugins/ technically implementer/provider
CNI is the interface, the plugins implement it

[clear ferry]

might look like weave doesn't support ipv6

https://github.com/weaveworks/weave/issues/19

[glacial knot]

https://github.com/weaveworks/weave/issues/19

[clear ferry]

so I should probably move to calico

[glacial knot]

or cilium 🤷

though I didn't really look into which plugin to use. I just use what my colleagues decided to use at work D:

[clear ferry]

fuck cilium was so easy to install

[dawn prawn]

is that a game?

[glacial knot]

The only thing that threw me off was when I didn't have the CNI helpers it uses

Otherwise it's really just one apply command

[golden wing]

has anyone here replaced their thermostat with like a shelly or something and just used automations to turn heat/ac on/off?

along with temp sensors in ambient locations of course

[finite atlas]

i did

i used a esp32 with temperarure sensors and tasmota, that gets scanned by nodeRed and triggers a "smart" power socket flashed with tasmota aswell to turn on a water pump

[late gate]

I am about to throw haproxy in the wall

[clear ferry]

told you so

[late gate]

yeah. I am giving up. I will go back to traefik. SO much easier. I dont care people say its hard... Its 100x easier

[glacial knot]

🤷 istio is working fine for me

[late gate]

traefik works great for k8s too

[clever mortar]

Traefik is hard?

[late gate]

no

its easy

haproxy is hard

[clever mortar]

That's what I thought

HAProxy isn't hard, but it's not obvious

[late gate]

yeah, I agree on that

[clever mortar]

I've used it before, and it does what it does well, but ... Traefik is almost easy button easy

[late gate]

I dont understand people say traefik is so hard

just cause of file config?

[clever mortar]

Add some labels, and bingo you're running

For "hard" mode, sure, files... but I just added a new remote site using files 15 minutes ago, and it took me literally 30 seconds

[late gate]

yeah, just create a service and attach the frontend to it

[clear ferry]

I prefer traefik by a lot

[glacial knot]

D:

just use nginx 🙂

[late gate]

I dont like nginx

[clever mortar]

Traefik > NGINX

(I say that as somebody who's used NGINX for years)

[late gate]

I was on a meeting with altibox today, and wow so much talk about proxies and k8s etc. they really is pushing for new things

[clear ferry]

I used apache for 18 years, nginx for 4 and now traefik

[late gate]

I see v3 is soon to come, so hopefully its a good major update

I really feel like I did a bit overkill on the router haha

almost feel sad for it to just run a plain opnsense on 32gb ram, nvme and a 12th gen i3

[prisma briar]

The NVMe and RAM are wasted, yea. The CPU seems appropriate.

[late gate]

yeah, though it was just what I had laying around unused

thats why it got them

[clear ferry]

enable suricata

[prisma briar]

I've definitely used way overkill boxes for tasks because it was what I had lying around before

[clear ferry]

and do some bgp

and do clamav

[prisma briar]

Jesus, this raid reconstruct finally finished after like 8 days.

[clear ferry]

lol 8 days

[prisma briar]

It legit might have been faster to just copy everything off, blow the raid away, then remake it from scratch

Yea, I was adding another member to a raid 5

[late gate]

is it any good traffic analyse plugin to opnsense?

[clear ferry]

one of the reasons I went with dRAID on my new 20 drive zfs pool

[prisma briar]

So it had to do a full parity reconstruct

[clear ferry]

will rebuild in less than half a day

I genuinly never have seen anyone who does an EXPAND on a raid before, that is, before 2 months ago when a customer asked me about it

local drives are so rare these days

[prisma briar]

This was the first one I did

[clear ferry]

this was a 8->12 drive raid6 expansion

[prisma briar]

I've always backed everything up and wiped/remade the raid in the past

[clear ferry]

took 7 days still on SSD

rebuild of a single drive took 20 min

so expanding raid is bonkers

[prisma briar]

I added a 5th 4TB drive to an existing 4x4TB RAID 5

Yea, this finished a rebuild in maybe 4 hours when I replaced a failed drive a couple weeks ago

[clear ferry]

RAID is dead btw, unless you have very strange reasons to run it

[prisma briar]

Going to 5600RPM 4TB spinners

Old-ass hardware

I'm already pegging the CPU like half the time, I don't want to add sw raid to that

Also ready access to spare parts if a raid card dies

[glacial knot]

does that include fs level redundancy like raidz#? 🤔

[clear ferry]

RAID is such a hassle when the controller dies

unless you have support contracts

You mean zfs @glacial knot ?

[prisma briar]

I also have full backups so if I lose the entire system, whatever.

[glacial knot]

pretty sure you could build vdevs without redundancy in zfs 🙂

it'd be a dumb idea, but possible

[clear ferry]

yikes

yes you can make pools and vdevs as single drives

[prisma briar]

Which is why I wish I would have just wiped and remade this raid and restored from backups instead of reconstructing had I known how long it was going to take, heh.

I saw some people talking about using Ceph on a single box for disk-level redundancy/ease of swapping disks/object storage a while back.

[clear ferry]

yikes

hard pass

[prisma briar]

That always seemed like an interesting concept.

Yea, I think the I/O and management overhead would kill it but in a couple CPU generations that probably won't be much of a concern anymore.

[clear ferry]

modern CPUs can handle pretty much anything

our propritary ASICs in SANs have all been laid dead now

we just do it in CPU instead

[prisma briar]

Yea, but the CPU that Ceph uses can be used by other tasks.

So even if it's reasonable to run on each box it still costs something if you're trying to load each box up with as much as it can take

[clear ferry]

that is why you have a scale out system

[prisma briar]

I work for a hosting company, not loading boxes up as full as they'll go before they tank in performance would be wasteful.

We generally keep enough loose capacity on each cluster for two or three boxes on the cluster to go down

[clear ferry]

that is usually handled by the underlying hypervisor HA anyway

cluster admission etc

pretty normal for storage systems to go up to 90% before someone thinks it is a good idea to expand storage

but for virtulization it usually comes down to if you want to have spare capacity hosts or spare shared capacity

I prefer the latter

[prisma briar]

We use a sparse drive image container for our stuff with a cron to go through and defrag/release empty space from deleted files.

[harsh heath]

Does anybody have a recommendation for 360° indoors camera that would work locally with HA?

[clear ferry]

yuck indoor cameras

[harsh heath]

well outdoor doesn't belong to me

it's a student dorm

[clear ferry]

why would anyone need to film a student dorm ?

this sounds like a porn site

[harsh heath]

xD

It's for my room. Zigbee plug powers on the cable only when I'm away

But I don't wanna use Xiaomi anymore, they keep changing their cloud terms

[clear ferry]

yuck cloud

[harsh heath]

I knoooooooooooow

[clear ferry]

you are ticking all my boxes tonight

just say you are american

no wait you already did

DORM

[harsh heath]

Uh, no :D

How bout these pi's, yuck em too?

I'm using 5€ shoe stands from Ikea as my server rack

[forest edge]

yea they are called usb cameras

[clear ferry]

yes

pis are yuck

[forest edge]

i think some do. they on like tripods etc

[harsh heath]

I want it to turn though :/

Oh never knew about them

[harsh heath]

nooo

Do you not like computers

[clear ferry]

yes

proper ones

[harsh heath]

Do you run HA on threadripper maybe

[umbral cliff]

If it can't be rack mountable ATX hates it

[clear ferry]

No, dual 2660v3

[forest edge]

pi can be rack mountable tho lol

[clear ferry]

Only acceptable ARM system is Isambard 2

[umbral cliff]

I can see it being useful for security
Since people could otherwise gain entry

A touch overkill though

[umbral cliff]

Native rack mountable not with accessories

[clear ferry]

Maybe in third world countries, in Norway the students have apartments with personal locks

[harsh heath]

there's no Pi4, I don't believe they exist. These are all 400s don't know how apt it would be to strip them and mount them (the mb is like a blade)

[forest edge]

i mean it still could.. just wouldn't look right lol

[forest edge]

thats what the call the compute module 4 rack board.. blades

[harsh heath]

nope it is not, see, this happened while I was out of country

[umbral cliff]

Tried using a lock on the door?

[clear ferry]

LOL

[umbral cliff]

Or are locks not freedom enough

[forest edge]

why is there two door handles on that door?

[harsh heath]

It's locked of course.. The building management has the master key.. They are not allowed to enter without notice though

Which they didn't

busted them, they apologized a lot

in Germany it's a very no go to do this

but well

[umbral cliff]

One looks to be a lock

[harsh heath]

better yet: door locks are NFC tags

[harsh heath]

^

[forest edge]

look at it closely.. it looks like a door knob

[harsh heath]

NFC reader

[forest edge]

ah

[umbral cliff]

Some sort of RFID or NFC is common for places now. Less cost if you lose your key

[harsh heath]

yeah I could've copied the key though xD I'm not living there anymore

Doubt it's encrypted

[umbral cliff]

It most likely is

Its cheap to do encrypted

[clear ferry]

I wanted to automate two indoor doors here with nfc

maybe I'll get around to it some day

[harsh heath]

will you inser a tag under your skin

[clear ferry]

very handy when carrying two kids

[harsh heath]

it's so cool

[clear ferry]

I have considered it a decade ago

but not anymore

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge will find out tonight. Been away.

[forest edge]

too late.. pretty sure california sank by this point

[tidal bronze]

Saw a DHL delivery on frigate, so everything is more than better.

[forest edge]

prob cause they the only one's who have boats

how long have you been gone?

all kind of shit have struck california in the past week lkol

[tidal bronze]

9 days

[forest edge]

oh wow

you seen that movie waterworld with kevin costner right?

[tidal bronze]

Yep

[forest edge]

well make sure you bring home a jar of dry dirt to barter with

[tidal bronze]

On a hill never worry about water

Paramedic response time, least walkability (no people), hill. Order of importance right?

[forest edge]

i think the only thing that hasn't struck california yet this year is a hurricane and massive earthquake

you guys should use that a tourist slogan.. California.. one shop stop to experince all natural disasters

[tidal bronze]

Had a good one about a month ago. I thought it was wine and tequila mix was bad.

[forest edge]

lol earthquake?

[tidal bronze]

Yep.

[forest edge]

thats your normal one.. all these others is just some higher power telling you bastards to ditch the Kale and bring back the hot blondes

[tidal bronze]

EQs are fine. Becomes normal. Everything will reset in a few months. So happy about the rain. Going nuts with sprinklers this summer. It's about time.

[forest edge]

lol sprinklers.. for what? the cactus?

[tidal bronze]

The red cactus called strawberry you eat is made here. You like?

[forest edge]

pretty sure florida is our provider for strawberries during the colder months

[static schooner]

I feel like we need a "World without California" 1-hour special for the rest of the country to enjoy

Fish tacos? Gone!

[forest edge]

wtf is a fish taco?

[tidal bronze]

Lmao, FL is only for "no one drinks any more, high glycemic orange"

[forest edge]

can't be listing crap on a video that noone outside of California has ever eaten or heard of

[forest edge]

they do provide us with fruits that califrnoia dosen't during the winter months tho

[static schooner]

paging @green inlet

[tidal bronze]

Seeing someone drinking orange juice = eating 18 donut holes = 🤔 Do they have anything else?

[forest edge]

orange juice is the same as 18 donuts to you? i'm confused

[tidal bronze]

Uncool factor, yep.

Not 1973 anymore

[forest edge]

wtf.. since when is orange juice uncool?

I think you are thinking of that powder crap

[tidal bronze]

Have breakfast in LA you will see what I am talking about.

[forest edge]

all you can eat kale buffet?

looks like a cattle trough

[tidal bronze]

If you see OJ, that's how you know, yep, tourist.

[forest edge]

thats messed up lol

so you can always spot the locals by if they have a blender in thier hand?

[tidal bronze]

💯

[forest edge]

no wonder why the state is being punished right now lmao

[golden wing]

If I'm understanding what I'm seeing correctly, there isn't really a way to supply power to a Shelly 1 from just these three terminals right? At least not without interfering with the safety beam sensor or disabling functionality of signalling the garage door opener at all

[forest edge]

you really shouldn't use the terminals on the opener itself to power the shelly regardless. they are almost never consistent voltage anyways

[golden wing]

that makes sense. i was just hoping there would be a "self-contained" solution

i'll just get a dc adapter though lol

[forest edge]

some people get lucky and the power is high enough and stable enough but for the most part unless it has a seperate output for something else like an addon or whatever they are never reliable

[golden wing]

yeah i saw one video where the guy took the cover to his off and there was just everything you could ask for to wire it up lol

[upbeat walrus]

You’re missing out.

[forest edge]

yea.. I have felt my mercury levels were a little low

[upbeat walrus]

Not all fish have a meaningful amount mercury. It’s only the big predatory fish that have a high level.

Besides, most of that stuff is Tilapia, which is farmed.

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/IztfRyV9zoQ

can't wait till they expand atsc 3.0

[forest edge]

pretty much how i view the direction of the world heading toward

[dusky plank]

💩

[dusky plank]

wtf does thread in my finder

[forest edge]

not nice to make fun of @clever mortar 's main job

[dusky plank]

I will need faster network storage for that sweet 5k footage

[clear ferry]

You mean one SSD

[dusky plank]

probably, I don't have the speed network wise for anything else 😛

[crisp oriole]

Hacked my self some kde widgets

[crisp cave]

hey hi! new here - I was wondering, is there a way to see what will plants to be included in the next releases of Home Assistant? e.g. what will 2023.4 look like?

(not sure how the release cycle works here)

[glacial knot]

git log dev

[crisp cave]

okay, so it's the delta between the past release and the last commit on dev, thanks - is there also a changelog with the highlights? essentially those that are picked to make the "official" post on the website

[glacial knot]

I'm not sure if there's something better
I'd hope so. But changelogs tend to be created late in dev cycles

[low harness]

Don’t think I’ve seen .arpa since newsgroups were a thing.

… a different thing, at least…

[green inlet]

if you know, then you know

[last cedar]

@forest edge just as a warning, my demolition course went well, doors are no longer an issue when it comes to doormat acquisition

[last cedar]

Door repair course is next week

[clear ferry]

Reminds me of a customer DC door where the inergen released 100% immediately

[clear ferry]

I call my daughters pig Xi Jinpig

[glacial knot]

Not even a yellow bear

[clear ferry]

[forest edge]

not any concern cause most doormats here in the US are on the outside, not inside lol

[last cedar]

I may still demo the door, just for fun though

[daring jolt]

messing around

[mellow parcel]

using?

[daring jolt]

wdym

[forest edge]

Excited to be turned into filament that you can't wait outside huh

[mellow parcel]

time for the shocking door

[last cedar]

The only filament being made will be molten metal, the whole thing is over in 0.2 seconds including doormat stealing, it is a very slick operation

[forest edge]

you forgot to include the 45 minutes trying to stuff through the door opening https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OIAixuyEMt8/hqdefault.jpg

and that's one way

[forest edge]

i like the unifi dream wall concept. that device specs look like crap but the concept is nice

[last cedar]

Stop fat shaming!

[forest edge]

https://media.tenor.com/kKg2oWQLmtEAAAAd/fat-raccoon.gif

[glacial knot]

being fat == 🦝 shaped

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/im-not-fat-im-big-boned-eric-cartman-south-park-s15e4-gif-23121562

[worldly sierra]

Anyone worked out a good ChatGPT prompt? I've been trying to make it read a CSV file with my sensors info like name, entity_id, unit, etc. It reads the file and can reference things but when I ask it to make automations it uses random values 😮‍💨

[forest edge]

"Hey ChatGPT, How do I work ChatGPT?"

[worldly sierra]

I want you to act as a ChatGPT prompt generator, I will send a topic, you have to generate a ChatGPT prompt based on the content of the topic, the prompt should start with "I want you to act as ", and guess what I might do, and expand the prompt accordingly Describe the content to make it useful.

[last cedar]

Work is about to be done, and I am not asking 🤣

[forest edge]

yea i'd leave those sitting there and walk away too

[clear ferry]

Oh yeah, jack saw me Michelle mommy

[last cedar]

I epoxied them to the floor

[clear ferry]

https://i.redd.it/n4tuw31s9zpa1.jpg

[forest edge]

that's not very nice, others who choose to ignore them might trip on them

[last cedar]

I wonder why Sweden has more than double any of the surrounding countries?!

[clear ferry]

Because your integration is horrible I reckon

Just look at you

Still a filthy brit

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-piss-off-chef-master-chef-hells-kitchen-gif-10154743

[forest edge]

harder to report crime when the nearest police is 4 hours away on average

[last cedar]

Atx hit the nail on the head

And the punishments are lenient and the police service is on its knees

[pallid willow]

This thread is comedy gold: https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/systemd-100-cpu-hang.124767/

[finite atlas]

The answer to that would be labled hatespeech nowdays.

[glacial knot]

Soo, how are the wiping (combo or standalone) variants of those vacuum robots? Recommend or don't? 🤔

[clear ferry]

I don't use the mopping bits

Too many carpets

[glacial knot]

does it not auto-detect if it's carpet and retract the mop 🤔

I should look that up, since I have a mix of carpet and tiled

[clear ferry]

There is no retraction afaik

Just not pushing water

I have an S5

[glacial knot]

That's roborock?

[clear ferry]

Yes

[glacial knot]

I have a roomba, but that's vacuum only. Either I'll spend on a good mop/vacuum combo manual device or upgrade the robot

[late gate]

I use the s7 maxV and both suction and mopping is very good

[last cedar]

I have a sweeping brush

https://tenor.com/view/racoon-sweep-broom-cute-pet-gif-16161898

[orchid rose]

Michelle moving from England has clearly tripled the doormat robberies in Sweden

[static schooner]

it's really the gateway theft

[clear ferry]

Short way to kitchen mat robberies

[finite atlas]

I have no carpets and the combo wipe function is great. It just drags a wet cloth behind itself but it gives the floor that extra little touch of being even cleaner.

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/tired-exhausted-dragging-kid-pulling-kid-gif-16993575

[glacial knot]

Which one do you have? My understanding is that the nice ones use some vibration and push water through the cloth as they go

[finite atlas]

Roborock S5 max or so

it just pushes water through it, thats it

Works well enough

[clear ferry]

JA

[glacial knot]

I might go for the S8 when it's out 🤔 or the hopefully price dropped S7.

[finite atlas]

dont spend too much

[clear ferry]

Finally a good place for ChatGPT

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/122i5jm/newly_opened_museum_of_failure_celebrates_bad/

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/till-lindemann-dicken-titten-lindemann-dance-gif-25800902

[orchid rose]

This is probably the most tech-related Discord server I'm on and at the same time the most dismissive towards stuff like ChatGPT. It's very weird.

[clear ferry]

they might have a good venn diagram overlap

because the people who praise GPT is mostly people who are not technical nor security focused

If you feed enough data into a self learning algorithm

https://tenor.com/bT108.gif

the same people who praise ChatGPT probably overlap a lot with the users who think tiktok is great and are angry with nation x for spying on them

I'm actually quite surprised about how many "people who are really sceptical about vaccines and some nations" overlap with high use of tiktok and say they don't care when confronted about tiktoks logging

[orchid rose]

I don't think that's fair. If anything this seems like an age thing

[clear ferry]

I don't know, I verse in a lot of security concious circles, noone is saying ChatGPT is a great thing

let's ask someone who does it for a living @clever mortar

😄

[orchid rose]

I mean we all know Tinkerer is actually advanced AI

[clear ferry]

🤖

[finite atlas]

https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2018/04/18/bb3f99913d737191.mp4

[lofty orchid]

I used a pi/vt220 to make a retro chatbot and then used a webhook+cloud tts+mpd media player to give it a voice. We are going to use this at my friend's home assistant controlled computer museum so visitors can type in a question on an old terminal and get a text/voice response.

[prisma briar]

It's prime bait to get users to post sensitive details into a third-party site. A site like ChatGPT that maliciously harvested data could have huge implications. That coupled with it clearly not being a secure platform, as evidenced by their fopaux last week with sharing peoples' chat histories to random accounts.

I've been pushing for a 'ChatGPT/AI acceptable use policy' at work to hammer in/clarify what is and isn't acceptable to ask services like ChatGPT.

The line on what my company would consider acceptable isn't even clear to me. Obviously things like keys shouldn't be sent, but what about a random block of code from a script I want it to clean up or add a feature or document for me?

[forest edge]

can you change the acsii art? I get giving props to chatgpt but if you can you should make the logo and bigger title be more custom to your needs while maybe adding a smaller title with "powered by" or something

[lofty orchid]

Yes I made that one, it will probably end up being the logo of the museum

[prisma briar]

This discord isn't really very tech-y in that regard. I'm in a couple other Discords where people have been playing with it and they're mostly trying to figure out how to use AI models to automate menial tasks or just play around with training them. The people I've seen seem to be more interested in models like LLaMA where you can self-host and tweak/retrain them over ChatGPT.

[glacial knot]

It's related

[modest igloo]

lol looking at an install video for a smart switch and ... that exposed copper on their existing switch is scary

[glacial knot]

very professional installation

[scenic radish]

Yikes, no kidding

[clear ferry]

Yeah, wife has banned chatgpt at work too

[glacial knot]

Do you not have a copilot subscription yet? D:

[clear ferry]

Isn't that standardized murican style?

[glacial knot]

taking a closer look, the exposed copper isn't just on the switch, but also those connectors

I'm kinda surprised that never shorted when someone messed with the switch and pushed it back in

[clear ferry]

Oh no it gets worse the more you look

There is exposed wire on the wall too

And the door frame

[glacial knot]

This picture is shocking!

[clear ferry]

https://i.redd.it/i7kbel2y94qa1.jpg

[glacial knot]

bad milk blood robot 😂

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-black-millennium-gif-23058568

[glacial knot]

is that a 3 seater, or does the kid sit on her lap? 🤔

seatbelts! people really don't want to survive car crashes I guess

[clear ferry]

The 90s were different

I remember my sisters sitting in the trunk of my parents Subaru with two friends going to their confirmation, while I was in something that resembled a jumper seat

[glacial knot]

I remember sharing the trunk with another guy and a bunch of climbing gear (so mostly hard metal) while going down wavy mountain roads D:

[clear ferry]

Tbf, the 1800 Subaru coupe is quite cool

[clear ferry]

I barely fit in the trunk of a fiat Panda driving down Wicklow mountain in Irland in 2007

[last cedar]

Reminds me of this, that I found in the wild

Low voltage stuff (24V) but the point still remains

I have no idea how it didn't create issues

[low harness]

That's how the "professionals" installed my washer and dryer. Both on the same phase too, despite there being three available at the junction box.

In that case it did create issues.

[jovial gyro]

Do you know of any Sound (not air) quality monitor devices that can be placed outside (so ip67 at least) and that play nice with HA or are open ?

[glacial knot]

Probably more of a #hardware-archived question
Though I'm looking for one that's suitable for indoors, if you have a good suggestion 🙂

[jovial gyro]

Thanks, I will also post there.

[clear ferry]

Sound... Quality? Outdoors?

A microphone?

[glacial knot]

I want something with proper dB output for noises
The mics I have don't have the proper pickup pattern and I'd have to calibrate them first

[clear ferry]

I'm curious how you measure sound quality

Considering stuff like misophonia

Then again, there probably are people who are mentally oversensitive to air quality too

Similar to "electro allergies"

[dusky plank]

I understand sound volume monitor, but what is a quality measurement?

[clear ferry]

Exactly

[late gate]

It seems to be a debated area, but what experience have you guys in putting proxmox as base on the router (on dedicated hardware), then run opnsense in a VM, so you can use the snapshot before updates / big changes

[jovial gyro]

Yeah, my bad. Sound intensity / noise pollution. 😄

[jovial gyro]

Yes, but I want a package (a device with a protected microphone that just works). I want to be able to just see and export the data, not build it =))

[forest edge]

ground wire.

[dusky plank]

did that for a few months, it works fine and is nice with the snapshots but not worth it

[dusky plank]

all digital mics, no analog. that's all I know but I just record birds

with analog you always have a ground noise

[glacial knot]

what do you think the digital mic does to not have noise from the analogue sensor it necessarily builts on?

[finite atlas]

perhaps less noise due to shorter analogue cables and better adc's

[dusky plank]

the adc makes the difference

mics without power are useless for this

that said, the netatmo weather station has a volume sensor which seems to work well in my setup

it updates every few minutes so you will need something else for the spectrum

[glacial knot]

they just apply some kind of filtering
Or if you are lucky, the ADC is more accurate (probably through oversampling) but it's nothing you couldn't do with quality gear or software later

[dusky plank]

golden hdmi cables you say

[finite atlas]

with platinum wires

[late gate]

I want golden plated electric outlets for better hz and extra volt

[glacial knot]

gold plated plugs probably wouldn't hurt

[late gate]

they actually sell that here

[clear ferry]

Wasteful

[late gate]

yeah probably

[clear ferry]

Daily backup to nextcloud is fine

[late gate]

yeah, the backup system is quite good

[hollow glacier]

https://reddit.com/r/programming/comments/123cmm8/twitter_source_code_leaked_on_github/

[jovial gyro]

https://imgflip.com/i/7g0z5m

[modest igloo]

lol all the wires are ground wires

[forest edge]

oh your referring to the access wire sticking out from the sheath

[modest igloo]

if you look more closely you can see it's sticking out from under the wire nuts too

it's all wrong

[flat shadow]

Yo !
I've seen in the state of the open home there https://building.open-home.io/local-control-is-the-only-way/ that today there is a live on YouTube. Anyone got the time it is starting?

Mark your calendars: Year of the Voice - Chapter 2 will be held on April 27, 2023 on Home Assistant's YouTube channel. Subscribe to be notified when it starts!

[forest edge]

it's not great but I don't see a fire hazard or anything. worse case the neutral touches the ground (which is highly unlikely) and causes the breaker to trip. it's a plastic box and wires don't move around plus that neutral line nut might have been loosened prior to this picture etc

[modest igloo]

anyone else host of those ripe atlas probes?

[midnight adder]

does someone use pfsense and know if it is possible to set local reverse proxy?

[clear ferry]

local reverse proxy ?

🤔

[toxic oasis]

April is next month ...

[clear ferry]

Not if you are using the latest DST standard

We turn our clocks one month ahead

[toxic oasis]

Does this mean we can hibernate for one month ?

Then I have to adjust some automations

[flat shadow]

Oh god. I need another weekend lmao. We are still in march ???! Hahahah

[clear ferry]

Meanwhile I go like fuck is it friday already? I have to entertain the kids?!

[midnight adder]

like the pihole + traefik but not open to internet only for lan

[clear ferry]

sure

just do a domain or hostname override

then send it to a traefik instance

or use haproxy

the former is easier, the latter is all *sense

can even integrate it with letsencrypt to have internal certificates

[green inlet]

Add some illicit narcotics and tacos and I am in.

[clear ferry]

Illicit tacos please

[green inlet]

I go the other way, narcotic tacos

[modest igloo]

🤔 something's off

[static schooner]

That's a BigAss Fan

[forest edge]

just big boned

[dusky plank]

may be child labor

[clear ferry]

I think this is what OnlyFans is about

[late gate]

I think thats @last cedar on that pole. RIP!

[clear ferry]

She'd love to be used like that

No worries

[last cedar]

I didn't think we were talking about that outside of DMs

[last cedar]

It is very fun

[last cedar]

🤣

[forest edge]

@static schoonerso Whisker just confirmed to me that the USB port on the arch is for power only and does not transfer data. That means the upcoming camera addon they are coming out with that is suppose to identify cats has to have it's own wifi connection as well as being added to the add separately. how dumb is that lol

https://youtu.be/GCKouSzL-AQ oh no!

[static schooner]

Looks forward to super bacon

Canadian bacon, I guess

[forest edge]

swine flu 2.0

[mellow parcel]

boar pigs eh

[steel crag]

notice the emoji is of proper bacon

[hollow glacier]

Getting a bath from the cat

[clear ferry]

Fun fact, 91% of soda sold in Norway is sugar free

[forest edge]

understandable, most urines have low to no sugar and don't see why yak's piss would be any different.

[forest edge]

@peak cloudQuick! Sell your Jeep while they are still waaaaaaaaay overpriced! lol

[forest edge]

@wheat quail Those old sony wega's were huge. I had the 36" variant which weighed over 230lbs. They were 1080i not 1080p. I believe all the models even the 16:9 models only supported 480 in progressive. Just watched your video on the TV tower in st louis and it reminded me of mine

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/VhgLyvP0Y5A

[forest edge]

seems legit

https://youtu.be/my1lyUE7WVM

scary

[late gate]

What is the best way to do this: if I put up the homelab, they all got 2.5G lan, they all are on a 2.5G switch. Will use the nas that have 2.5G plugged one of its eth port to the switch. How to get the lab to use the nas via 2.5 directly, instead of leaving the switch through the 1g network, while still having access to the whole network (for example route nfs directly, but keep http open over 1g)?

[finite atlas]

and where is oled burn in at high brightness with static images a surprise?

[last cedar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/sweden/comments/125gzx0/en_hilsen_fra_norge_vi_kaller_dette_svenske/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=13&utm_content=share_button

@clear ferry shots fired

[finite atlas]

https://img.pr0gramm.com/2023/03/29/3719215e6e59e061.jpg

chonky ass 8=D

[clear ferry]

Lål

[clear ferry]

Routing or vlaning

[late gate]

what vlan strategy when it suppose to have "split personality"?

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/booty-when-you-see-the-booty-ass-butt-that-ass-gif-5643325

[dusky plank]

In the minimal setup, a GPU with 12 GB VRAM is sufficient.
alrighty

[low harness]

WTH? Since when does doing this change the default program permanently? And why would anyone want that?

[dusky plank]

I want that

because I don't need to open the dialogue anymore and have it set on double click

jk its crazy

[last cedar]

How is the 23.1.x opn... LOTs of updates, lots of _1s and hotfixes, seems far more hectic than usual

[clear ferry]

I have updated on Sunday

Great

As always

I just did my travel expenses for 2022, i left the house 29 days for work

[scenic radish]

Your company's accountants hate you if you just finished your 2022 expenses

[last cedar]

Stop it, I can only get so turned on

[low harness]

I also appreciate the thought of atx being safely locked away, but not that much...

[clear ferry]

Just wait till you talk to the hour submition team, and HR

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/penis-erection-archer-gif-5251666

[last cedar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/opnsense/comments/125mecq/opnsense_2315_released/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=13&utm_content=share_button

@clear ferry latest update is a mess it seems

Problems with alias

[clear ferry]

I don't have that one

[last cedar]

Give it a day to see what happens haha

I want to reinstall my setup because nut has stopped working via usb, and each update seems bad in some way 🤣 maybe best to stay on 22.7

[clear ferry]

Haven't had an issue in over a year

And it was fixed in 12h

[last cedar]

Is that 12 human or raccoon hours?

[clear ferry]

Dawg

[late gate]

does nextcloud run better if I install it in a VM instead of docker? trying to increase its performance a bit

[clear ferry]

Not really

I've run it in jail, VM, docker

No difference in performance

Never had performance issues though

[late gate]

im currently running memories and its dead slow. trying to move it over to the new machines might help

[clear ferry]

Memories?

[late gate]

the photo addon

[clear ferry]

I haven't used it

I just use the default gallery and previews generator

[last cedar]

I saw a wolf on the way to work today

@forest edge this is your doing right?

[forest edge]

did you run like hell? you must have, you are typing in here now

[late gate]

Was it scary?

[last cedar]

I am up a tree, it has a knife and fork and has set up camp below me

[last cedar]

I was in a car, but more in awe at how cool it was 🤣

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/acme-wiley-gif-20997974

[last cedar]

Like that with less moving legs

[forest edge]

you instantly pictured being chased by the big bad wolf didn't you? lol

incase you need a refresher

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/sites/default/files/wolfinthesnow.jpg

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/llhlg-raccoon-box-hide-discover-gif-19144751

[peak chasm]

Oh hello racoon

[clear ferry]

Oh herro(n)

[late gate]

Should I start crimping cables soon?

[static schooner]

looks like a view inside the box with the racoon

[late gate]

thats cause Michelle is coming over every night, and makes this mess as its no doormat

[static schooner]

Well, there might be one under all that stuff...

[late gate]

ssssssh, its a trap!

[last cedar]

I could never leave a mess as bad as those cables 🤣

[late gate]

hahaha

you know geniuses see pattern in chaos, so that makes me one

[last cedar]

You must be one of the best geniuses in that case

[late gate]

ofc!

[clear ferry]

I refuse to believe thou hath clean hands

[static schooner]

Literally, not metaphorically

[forest edge]

pictures not matching.. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2uLLi-CUAAUJzn?format=jpg&name=small

[static schooner]

I just noticed that I can mute and hide the "hangout" voice channel and also deselect it from the "Browse Channels" list. I accidentally fell into it every so often and I don't think you could get rid of it before

[forest edge]

don't wanna "hangout" do ya?

@static schoonerI have yet had a LR4 update that didn't time out with an error and yet after you power cycle the unit it claims the update took place.. quality programming

[harsh heath]

Frenck is killing it with the Tailscale updates 🔥 wish it had it's own network interface though

[dusky plank]

It happened in 🇩🇪 but else this is accurate

[hollow glacier]

https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/28/23659191/amazon-sidewalk-network-coverage

So skynet is online

[late gate]

I love pineapple on pizza! Hawaiian pizza!

[finite atlas]

I love pineapple on pizza aswell, i hate people hating it >:(

[modest igloo]

pineapple is great. needs to be a mean pizza though

I've been getting a bunch of pizzas delivered and just wasn't satisfied

[glacial knot]

warm pineapple is sin

throw it on after baking, and it might be ok

[modest igloo]

it softens it up! lol

depends on the pineapple tbh

[orchid rose]

Real talk. Pineapples are acceptable if it's combined with spicy pepperoni and chili and a really cheesy more pie-like build. Hawaii is an abomination

[glacial knot]

pie like pizza? 🤢

[orchid rose]

Pretty sure they should be called pies at that point but Americans are weird

[glacial knot]

*wrong

[orchid rose]

I'll spoiler this in case there are Italians around, but I would eat this

[modest igloo]

lol

pickled jalapenos are nice

[glacial knot]

That looks like noodles instead of pineapple 😂

[hollow glacier]

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/29/dumb-phones-are-on-the-rise-in-the-us-as-gen-z-limits-screen-time.html

Gen z was a mistake

[late gate]

Is it any way to pass a shared volume to a proxmox vm? Ceph is a no go since its too complex. Nfs is a bit slow for ssd target

[forest edge]

Lulz

[hollow glacier]

gross right

they're using them as fashion statements along with actual smartphones not replacing them

fuckin kids

[static schooner]

it's really the best screen for "snake"

[hollow glacier]

what a game

[forest edge]

I don't see anything wrong with basic phones but that article seems to stem from those dumb TikTok challenges where kids try and go a month without a smart phone

[modest igloo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XewgO7j6y-E

could get worse lol

[forest edge]

Gross

[modest igloo]

poor james takes the bullet so you don't have to

[orchid rose]

There's a mental health crisis with young people that seems to be pretty directly linked to social media growth so there's probably some legitimate benefits from this stuff. The article reads like an ad though

[forest edge]

Online bullying

[orchid rose]

Not necessarily just the bullying but finding gratification only in it. The way these platforms are designed is pretty evil

That's a big part though especially for young girls

[forest edge]

Just watched that congress woman bitch out someone from Twitter cause she believed she got shadow banned for making a Hilary joke. That meteor coming for earth can't get here fast enough

[finite atlas]

the best trend that ever came from tiktok

[glacial knot]

interesting, that video doesn't have audio on mpv/yt-dlp

[forest edge]

Less phone, more books?

[finite atlas]

less phone, more grass touchy

[glacial knot]

indoors grass 🙂

[forest edge]

What about kids like the norwats daughter who will never see grass?

[finite atlas]

never heard of that daughter

[dusky plank]

So you‘ve chosen death

[clear ferry]

I like pineapple and ham

[mellow parcel]

pineapple and chicken with roasted garlic

[orchid rose]

atx's taste or lack there of never ceases to surprise me. The chicken one, mmmmm, maybe with enough spice

[clear ferry]

Hey, I do love my fresh bacon from the pack

[mellow parcel]

from them super pigs

mhmmm

[shadow prawn]

Bacon from the pack from atxbyea lopez

[mellow parcel]

is it super bacon from super pigs?

[shadow prawn]

No from spider pigs

https://tenor.com/view/homer-plopper-spiderpig-simpsons-movie-homer-simpson-gif-23423201

[mellow parcel]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/feb/20/us-threat-canada-super-pig-boar

[static schooner]

they cannot be stopped, but they're so delicious that nobody will care

[orchid rose]

If they are incredibly intelligent they might even pose a threat to the US population

[clear ferry]

It might increase the national average though

[last cedar]

LOL

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/roger-redneck-american-dad-seth-mac-farlane-roger-the-alien-gif-4886857

[last cedar]

Ever had pie but been too lazy to get plates so you just put the whipped cream and vanilla sauce on it?

[glacial knot]

you are a terrible person

[mellow parcel]

ever wanted a good chocolate cake?

took a month to make a sourdough starter to make said cake

https://www.whattheforkfoodblog.com/2020/07/05/gluten-free-sourdough-chocolate-cake-recipe/

exact opposite of insta pie

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-about-it-raccon-raccon-cry-about-it-cry-gif-24877553

I thought it was genius

[orchid rose]

you have trash taste

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/seinfeld-george-trash-gif-21495130

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/seinfeld-cosmo-kramer-kramer-sliding-entrances-gif-17247294

[finite atlas]

who hasn't? everyone is going to die eventually

[orchid rose]

Now that I know it's a choice, I think I will opt out

[clear ferry]

so my rack currently draws roughly 1000w with my new drives and my lab powered up

which is roughly 720kwh per month

still only costs 65€ per month with current prices

of my total €270 per month

[orchid rose]

Have you calculated in how high up the mountains you are?

[clear ferry]

GPS says 220m

https://open.spotify.com/track/3ze3Y5lRAeV1QPxOhXebq0?si=73914f09c5d0485e

[orchid rose]

Almost like you planned it

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/one-must-prepare-for-any-event-moira-moira-rose-catherine-ohara-schitts-creek-gif-20759950

[last cedar]

OUCH

[forest edge]

man tornado in iowa and arkansas at the same time

[green inlet]

Rectangle pie? Who are you?

[static schooner]

sounds like Chicago pie

https://tenor.com/view/little-caesars-deep-deep-dish-pizza-food-yummy-gif-17819371

[scenic radish]

Our slices might be squares, but the pizza itself isn't

SO THERE

[static schooner]

that just shows ignorance of math and equitable division of a pizza

hey, this thin arc of pizza is all crust!

[scenic radish]

I love the corners

[static schooner]

the fact that your circular pizza has corners 🤷 🙂

geometry fail

[forest edge]

circle pizza cut into squares...

awesome another tornado in Illinois now

[static schooner]

4.5 magnitude earthquake here. Like a free carnival ride

[forest edge]

right now or earlier today?

[static schooner]

~15mins ago

still at work and the whole building shook

[forest edge]

now we need a hurricane to make land on the east coast to complete the summoning

[static schooner]

this one: https://earthquaketrack.com/quakes/2023-04-01-01-16-07-utc-4-2-14

[forest edge]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/5/5f/Mg0v.gif

[mellow parcel]

dat rim of fire

[clear ferry]

Is mother nature out to get the US?

Sure feels like it

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[forest edge]

thought the lamp pillow was the dumbest thing ever than I saw the bedroom kitchen

[last cedar]

It actually changes shape when you chew it

Follow me for more amazing facts #raccoonsaretakingovertheasylum

[forest edge]

neat. don't get amazing facts like that in #raccoonsmakegreatfilament just boring guides on how to best stuff them in the feed tube

[last cedar]

Hahaha

[late gate]

is it possible to tag a VLAN to an eth bound on opnsense?

[glacial knot]

🤔 do you want a VLAN to be added as tagged VLAN to a physical interface?

[late gate]

the thing is I bound 5 ports on the switch to be used temporary for the homelab cause of 2.5g. Opnsense doesnt allow me to connect a vlan to the bound, so proxmox wont work properly with just the ip range, and nor can I tag clients

I know bounding router ports is a nono

I am having a super hard time finding a managed 6-8+ port 2.5g siwtch (with 2x 10g spf uplinks) in my price range. The other option is to buy two unmanaged and just lock them to a VLAN

[clear ferry]

What is an eth bound?

Do you mean a link aggregation?

I don't see why not

Also, 2.5 is bullshit

Best regards network engineer

[glacial knot]

Is bound the proper passive of bond?

[clear ferry]

Bond James Bond, for more James

Or JamesPut, or maybe JamesResilience

[late gate]

@clear ferry I mean bridge, I wanted to bridge LAN2-LAN5 on the router, and that was no problem, but that doesnt support dhcp or vlan from what I reccon

I know I should have gone 10gb on the whole switch, but I dont think I can afford a rack switch with 10gb on all ports

[clear ferry]

Bridge

You weirdo

Also 10g rack switches are inexpensive

They've been around for almost 20 years

[late gate]

give me a link to an inexpensive one then? eheh

[clear ferry]

There are multiple brocade options

https://www.ebay.com/itm/275498104726?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=PCCBch5ZQZS&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=rtxjSfSbSCy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=MORE

Here is one

I've seen them at half of that

[late gate]

hmm, that is interessting. got to but spf to eth then also I assume

I see someone selling a Dell N4032 here in Norway. bad / good?

[clear ferry]

Yuck dell

You can get dac cables pretty cheap

Roughly 50-100NOK each

[late gate]

what about with rj45 converter? most of my equipment doesnt support sfp

[clear ferry]

Yuck, rj45

[late gate]

well its nothing to do with equipment that require rj45

so its a need with some of them

[clear ferry]

Looks to be 100NOK per 1G transceiver

With free shipping

[late gate]

so maybe I should but some 1G, some 2.5G and some 10G

is it any special nm etc I should buy for that switch?

*nm

[clear ferry]

You don't need to think about wavelength if you use DAC or aoc

If you want optics, just buy the same for both end, whichever is cheaper

[late gate]

what if I buy modules like this: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005232296069.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.57.5ffd2c67WHySuT&algo_pvid=7d9acd9d-23c2-458c-ab32-b69b50d237f3&algo_exp_id=7d9acd9d-23c2-458c-ab32-b69b50d237f3-28&pdp_ext_f={"sku_id"%3A"12000032296021187"}&pdp_npi=3%40dis!NOK!438.42!232.36!!!!!%4021021b4716803623329156522d0701!12000032296021187!sea!NO!1675286400&curPageLogUid=G2dTbDEEYTdp

sorry I am not too knowledgeable with sfp

[clear ferry]

Depends on the switch, most support 1/10 some support 1/2.5/10, very few support 1/2.5/5/10

[late gate]

so should have different modules for different use?

[clear ferry]

Switch might not even support 2.5/5 at all

So depends

It probably was never designed for it might still work

[late gate]

hmm, then it quite useless for a homelab

[clear ferry]

Not really

Very few homelabs run 2.5

Sensible people buy 10g

Less expensive

[late gate]

yeah, but I guess you are refering to a blade setup now. The optplex cant push more than max 4g though the pcie on its best day I think

[clear ferry]

No, we've had 10G on rack servers for decades, before blades

And most homelabs run old enterprise gear

[prisma briar]

I've got two 2.5G devices, finding SFPs that work reliably with them was a pita.

Cable modem and onboard nic on my desktop

[clear ferry]

Yes, 2.5 is a strange beast that has very few real life applications

Makes sense for wifi7 access points

[prisma briar]

The desktop wasn't bad, but the cable modem took 5 SFPs before I found one that reliably linked at 2.5G and wouldn't drop to 100Mbps all the time

[clear ferry]

But that is about it

And partly wifi6 under Optimal conditions

[prisma briar]

My wifi6 APs can only do like half the band range at once, but that still gets me a 600Mbps speed test result.

[clear ferry]

We did 2.5 on first gen blade servers to bump them from 1 to 2.5 to expand their life

But most of those servers were retired by 2010 anyway

[late gate]

I would like the aliexpress routers to have two 10G sfp ports to be honest

[clear ferry]

Think we introduced it in 2007

[prisma briar]

All of my switches are 10Gb, except the POE one for my cameras.

I went mikrotik for everything, it wasn't that bad price-wise.

And as weird as routeros is it seems to work well

[clear ferry]

Mikrotik are great price wise

Just utter shit to manage

[prisma briar]

Yea, their OS makes no sense

You're basically beholden to documentation

[clear ferry]

I've seen the windows client to configure, looks like windows 95

Wtf

[late gate]

I really dont disagree that having a 10G infrastructure is good, I just wish it could do 1/2.5/5/10 natively. Then I would upgrade right away

[prisma briar]

Yea, all MDI windows

[clear ferry]

And the cli is non intuitive

[prisma briar]

All I really use mine for are vlans and LAGs

[clear ferry]

I've recently started training with vxlan and bgp

Probably gonna do some certs soon

[prisma briar]

I'm familiar with the general concepts for vxlan and bgp but never used either.

[clear ferry]

I've implemented them for 5 years from runbooks, but now I've started labbing to be able to design them from scratch

[prisma briar]

Our openstack clusters will set up vxlans but I've never looked past the network management gui for it

[clear ferry]

A lot of the concepts exist in nsx-t already, which I am certified on

[late gate]

Any experience with MikroTik 12-Port 10G Switch with Dual Power Supply (CRS312-4C+8XG-RM) <-- that got all speeds

[prisma briar]

The 10Gb ones with SFPs can do all speeds, you just need to get an SFP module that'll do that speed.

[clear ferry]

If you only need 12 ports sure

And only need 4 multi speed sfp

[prisma briar]

I have 1, 2.5, and 10 GB on one switch here

I don't have any 5Gb stuff

This switch has optical, DAC, base-t, 1Gb, 2.5Gb, and 10Gb on it.

[late gate]

@prisma briar Are you sure? The one atx linked to that I would buy right away doesnt seem to support anything else than 1G and 10G, but I need 1, 2.5, 5 and 10

[prisma briar]

https://mikrotik.com/product/crs309_1g_8s_in is what I have

[late gate]

its an all sfp

[prisma briar]

Yea, you get sfp->cat-whatever adapters for it

I've also got https://mikrotik.com/product/crs305_1g_4s_in with a 1Gb and 10Gb SFPs, and 10Gb DAC in it working fine

[late gate]

the mikrotik I seen seem to support all modes yes

[prisma briar]

Different mikrotiks can run different OSes, routeros is the full-featured OS.

I've got another 8x1Gb, 2x10Gb Mikrotik one that only runs swos-lite, it's fine for what I'm using it for but it's way less capable with routing than the other two I have. It was also way cheaper.

[clear ferry]

And more developed

Swos was shite last i checked

[prisma briar]

It's on par with a fancy consumer managed switch like what you'd get from linksys or netgear

Which is in no way a compliment

But it can at least do vlans

That's all it has

[late gate]

I guess thats enough for most people

[prisma briar]

Can't even do stuff like adjust link speed negotiation

Oh, wait, nevermind, it was just hidden behind a weird interface.

RouterOS can be a full network router, it can do dhcp and dns management, it's got a wireguard server, it can do inter-network routing/nat, it's got junk like an SMB server and NTP server

[late gate]

now I am not really planning to ditch opnsense though

[prisma briar]

I use pfsense for all that stuff personally

I just use it as a fancy switch

Mostly I got the cheapest 10Gb models with the port counts I needed

[late gate]

Is it any (minimum)2.5-10gb POE++ with minimum a 10G sfp from mikrotik?

[finite atlas]

why do you spend so much on networking?

1G is perfectly fine for the vast majority of homelab usecases

[late gate]

good question. In general its a bit connected to I would like a bit higher nfs performance between the cluster and nas than 1G

[glacial knot]

Why?

do you have applications that actually make use of that?