the-water-cooler

[low harness]

Yeah. It's not that

I've been deep through all the issues on github since it of course was the first one I opened...

It doesn't even turn on. Except if set to turn on on power on. Then it goes on and then off immediately.

[harsh heath]

I'd like to see the latest firmware version, but I can't because I use deCONZ at the moment (No idea how to OTAU)

I'll have to downgrade my Conbee II firmware to switch to Z2M; and also re-pair everything

[harsh heath]

Oh yeah that sounds different. I've been reading through as well

[clear ferry]

Yuck, deconz

[harsh heath]

Wish I bought Sonoff

[clear ferry]

Yuck sonoff

[harsh heath]

Uh, what do you use then

(gets all other brands triggered)

[static schooner]

wet string and small children

[clear ferry]

I have both of those

I've used Texas instruments cc1352 - zzh - tubes Poe coordinator

[prisma briar]

Lol, Dilbert's getting pulled from a lot of places because Scott Adams is a bigoted moron.

[last cedar]

Torketrommel omg hahahaha

[clear ferry]

Akta dig nu tvättbjörn

[last cedar]

I won't be going in any torketrommels anyway

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/dryer-running-kitty-kitten-cat-gif-11674561

[static schooner]

that's a funny looking hamster

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/hamtaro-crying-ebichu-gif-12456782

[clear ferry]

Interesting

TikTok is placing one of their European datacenters in Norway

[static schooner]

collaborators!

[last cedar]

@clear ferry what is a washing machine called in Norway?

[clear ferry]

Vaskemaskin

[last cedar]

odd

[clear ferry]

Odd probably owns one

[last cedar]

so it is a Vaskebjörn then? with your o of course

[clear ferry]

And his brother Even

Vaskebjørn yes

[last cedar]

awww

It is so strange how they are so similar for most stuff, I can read quite a bit of Norwegian as a Brit that can read Swedish, but then comes potaoemouth land and it all goes to shit

[clear ferry]

Danish is easy to read

Listen, depends

I can read most of Icelandic

Can't understand it verbally mostly

[bitter pecan]

what backgrounds do ya'll use for your dashboard screens?

anyone got like an imgur link or something

[clear ferry]

Backgrounds? What nønsense

[clever mortar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/doctorwho/comments/7nok9s/14_doctors_wallpaper/

[bitter pecan]

everyone knows it add 5hp to your dashboard

[low harness]

You should try this one then. Makes your computer go faster https://wallpapercave.com/w/7VMNKxb

[bitter pecan]

i dig the picsum you posted

that's rad it auto changes every time

and you can customize it too

[low harness]

Been using it for years

Like placekitten.com which I use for any placeholder image

[bitter pecan]

the perfect placeholder

[low harness]

Even better than placebear.com

[bitter pecan]

jesus they're replicating

like rabbits

my life has now been changed by the amount of placeholder sites

www.fillmurray.com

[prisma briar]

My desktop is black with icons disabled.

Mostly so I can hit winkey+d and minimize everything to not have anything burn in on my oled.

[clear ferry]

Y'all and your burn ins

[prisma briar]

I'm at 5368 hours on my OLED screen and still no burn-in.

With how much I've left Discord and browsers up I figured I'd have some by now.

[clear ferry]

I probably have 25k on my old plasma, never saw burn in on that , probably won't on my current oled either

Then again, i use neither for desktops

[prisma briar]

My dad had some LCD TV around 2010 that burned a toast notification in, that's the only non-CRT I've ever seen burn-in on.

That TV was only a couple months old too, he was able to just return it.

[bitter pecan]

my HS has flat screens everywhere with a clock on em

they're on 24/7

you can imagine the carnage

[prisma briar]

Most LCDs shouldn't really care about that

[bitter pecan]

those did lol

after 3 years

[prisma briar]

My HS just had normal clocks around

There were projectors/smart boards in each classroom and a flatscreen in the cafeteria they displayed announcements on

Well, that was in the HS they opened my senior year. The one before just had CRTs on carts.

That old building also had insufficient fire suppression.

[clear ferry]

Never seen burn in in my life actually, my old CRTs and LCDs have been powered on 24/7 since 95, with varying degrees of screen savers on or not

[bitter pecan]

my phone had it

old samsung s7

[prisma briar]

I remember seeing it on library computers

Oh, I guess my Pixel XL burned in the back/home/menu buttons

Forgot about that

[bitter pecan]

mine had the time bar and notifications burned it

[prisma briar]

The public libraries around here used green phosphor monochrome displays until way after they had any reason to that had burn-in

[clear ferry]

I've never seen a green phosphor display outside of the hp ux terminals

[prisma briar]

They still had them in like 2010.

Just dumb serial clients people could look up books on

[clear ferry]

Wtf

[prisma briar]

They also had actual computers that could look up books just fine, just only a couple of them

[clear ferry]

Don't think those could have been used anywhere since the early 90s here

[prisma briar]

I used to be able to telnet into our library and access the same interface those terminals accessed

It was like an advertised thing they had

[clear ferry]

That's some old school shit, I used to follow my dad to university in the mid 90s and by then they already had pretty good Internet connections

[prisma briar]

We had ISDN in the 90s, like 80Kb/s on a good day.

Got cable in the early 2000s

[clear ferry]

We got isdn at home in 96, but the university already had broadband by then, we got docsis in 98

[prisma briar]

ofc back then servers were so slow that that connection was mostly wasted.

I remember signing up for free dial-up services when my dad kicked me off the internet as a punishment. There were a few different services that'd give you 10h/mo of dial-up for free and it was a lot easier to make new accounts back then.

[clear ferry]

We had free dialup between 22-06 every day between 94-97 istr

[prisma briar]

Later on I lined a bowl with foil and put a usb wifi dongle in the middle and was able to get on the neigbor across the street's wifi

[clear ferry]

From what I could find my local university had 2Mbps in 1996

And most had 100 by the end of the 90s

My university had dual 155Mbit in 2003

[prisma briar]

Now speeds are absurd. We have multiple 100Gbit connections for our datacenter space.

And I can get 2Gbps to my house if I was willing to use Comcast's provided modems instead of my own

[last cedar]

@clear ferry you need to look up "marsvinsbilarna" on Netflix... omg

Best show I have ever seen

https://youtu.be/y5Uj_TTkumU

[clear ferry]

10Gbit for residential has been a thing for quite a few years

I did work with cross country 4Gbit over a decade ago

[prisma briar]

I think I can get 10Gbit from Comcast now too, but I'd probably have to get a new line ran to my house

[clear ferry]

They just replace my gpon with xgpon

[prisma briar]

I'm on coax still

docsis 3.1

[clear ferry]

Yuck

[prisma briar]

It's crazy how much they're getting out of shitty cables.

[clear ferry]

Docsis seems to be the next big milking cow in the us

Not sure if any other countries are betting on it

[prisma briar]

Supposedly they're getting 10Gb out of Docsis 4

[clear ferry]

Docsis is afaik only used in inner city apartment buildings still and if your current docsis breaks outside of the city they tell you to order ftth

[prisma briar]

Cable modems won because most people had cable TV at the time and it was an easy sell.

Cable providers were already replacing the old thin coax from the 80s with thicker stuff for compatibility with things like On Demand TV and high channel count packages so it just sorta worked

There's a lot of houses around here wired with thinner VHF/UHF coax to each room that has been functionally useless since the early 2000s. The house I was renting before I got my current place had each room wired like that.

Cable providers quit sending signals compatible with built-in tuners around then and switched to requiring cable boxes for all plans.

I wish they went with a differential pair instead of just shielded coax, personally.

Could've reused my old pointless phone jacks if they did that

[clear ferry]

My neighbourhood doesn't even have cable TV, was never built here, was sattelite tv until dsl came in the late 00s and sattelite for some, but ffth came in 2015, but linear tv has been dying for well over a decade already

[prisma briar]

Cable TV is dying pretty fast here too, but the infrastructure is already there and works for internet so it's still in use.

Satellite TV has always been a thing too, but when I had it it was constantly out due to snow on the dish.

I'd have to go brush the dish off to get a signal back

[clear ferry]

I'm guessing they are pulling all coax out of the ground now alongside twisted pair, but I'm actually not sure

[prisma briar]

They don't pull old wire out here, they just cut the ends off and leave it buried

At least all the wire between the distro boxes and houses

[late gate]

Lol first reboot of proxmox after an update and now its not booting. And you say y i hate proxmox

[clear ferry]

Proxmox sucks yea

[clear ferry]

They are pulling all up here now

Recycling it

[prisma briar]

I've updated my proxmox boxes from 5.2 to 7.1 without issue.

5 or 6 updates in that time

[late gate]

I think im cursed with proxmox though

Im too lazy to go and plug a monitor to see why

At least another reason to not run the fw on vm

[clear ferry]

Monitor? What is this? No OOBM?

Disgusting

@last cedar did you make an OS in 1987?

[late gate]

What am I going to do with that?

[clear ferry]

Oobm?

[late gate]

I don’t get it as a layer on the machine?

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/speak-english-pulp-fiction-do-you-speak-it-gif-16440534

[static schooner]

Minix was the original dev platform for Linux

[clear ferry]

Back when Rob was in his early 20s

[static schooner]

I think at some point Linus said that Linux would reach 1.0 when it could build itself, but then it was x years until 1.0

[late gate]

Are u thinking about the vpro thing?

[clear ferry]

yuck vpro

iLO 4 lyfe

[late gate]

Yeah for servers

[clear ferry]

sensible stuff yes

[prisma briar]

iDRACs ftw

SuperMicro's latest BMCs don't suck too, though they're no iDRACs.

[late gate]

Not everyone is spoiled with ilo u know, and itsnt it a license cost for hp ilo?

[clear ferry]

you can find it free online if you want, but usually it comes with the system

[prisma briar]

Doesn't free iLO let you power cycle it at least?

But the remote console is paid

[clear ferry]

iLO does everything except remote console and power statistics without a licence

[last cedar]

No, it was made to celebrate my birth, by raccoons far smarter

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/bJolQ.gif

https://tenor.com/WFQa.gif

[last cedar]

Seems like a large departure from a penguin though

[clear ferry]

is that how your mum greeted the racoon fanatics when you were born ?

[last cedar]

I think she just licked my face?

https://tenor.com/view/couple-cute-lick-gross-gif-14228362

Like that apart from me being infinately uglier than her

[glacial knot]

originally I planed to go to the office today
just got woken up by a storm. Don't think I'll leave the house today 😂

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze you freeze to death yet?

[tidal bronze]

Yep it's a little cold.

[forest edge]

your pool crack from the expanding ice? lol

[forest edge]

@night zodiac are you Idaho or Illinois?

[clear ferry]

I actually was in the office yesterday @glacial knot so a month till next time then

[last cedar]

We had -13.5C this morning

https://tenor.com/view/freezing-cold-freezing-my-tits-off-super-cold-snow-day-gif-15562828

[forest edge]

that's still above 0f.. quit your complaining

[clear ferry]

we had -16 yesterday

today is only -8

[clear ferry]

I just read an article that Tiger Woods is breaking up with his girlfriend, and the norwegian word is "taushetserklæring" so, wtf, did she have a NDA before getting involved

fucking americans

what a bonkers society

[forest edge]

like trying to have a conversation with a norwegian

[clear ferry]

apparently I'm getting more and more tasks cross scandinvia now @last cedar

coming to visit you to fika soon

[last cedar]

When will you be visiting

[clear ferry]

no idea, getting requests in from finland\ sweden\ denmark currently

daytravelling mostly, maybe one sleepover

[last cedar]

You can stay in my caravan 🤣

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/caravan-stig-top-gear-tip-over-gif-15735456

They had a huge bath duck at the swimming hall

[warped pike]

Hello.

[last cedar]

Hey!

[clear ferry]

Ho!

[rich vault]

good morning, new here and i tried searching for this, does anyone know where i can go to be able to use google home mini as my door chime for my unifi camera doorbell?

[clever mortar]

As mentioned in the channel topic, no support for HA here

You want #integrations-archived to get those both integrated into HA

Then you want #automations-archived do do the magic

[prisma briar]

hehe, do do 💩

[glacial knot]

@clear ferry you didn't tell. Did she cry?

[late gate]

Ok im going up proxmox. I gave it a fair try, but its something very wrong with its network handling. A clean install, can ssh in, reboot, no ssh, webui but can ping. Reinstall properly 10 times today

[finite atlas]

what weird network setup do you have?

or perhaps multiple network cards (including wifi) in the host?

[late gate]

No one nic no vlan on that host

So nothing should be an issue

I even let it dhcp the address one time

[clear ferry]

She had a minor heart attack at least from the stress of me saying "we need to talk"

[clear ferry]

Finally some good news

[prisma briar]

Proxmox uses normal /etc/network/interfaces configuration, there's nothing particularly unique to how it handles networking.

When the network breaks are you checking the host's state at all?

If you can't get into a host and fix the networking when it's broken you're not going to have a good time with any hypervisor.

[clear ferry]

Long live oobm

[late gate]

Yeah its just a test setup, but still it get ip, so network is correct. It just turned off ssh and web

Give some good alternatives!

[clear ferry]

Pure Debian or gtfo

[mellow parcel]

hmmm

[prisma briar]

I don't think there's any alternatives that are going to work out for you if you give up that easily.

Proxmox really is about the easiest hypervisor setup there is.

[clear ferry]

you are forgetting about windows10 with virtualbox

excuse me for three seconds

https://tenor.com/bTdeZ.gif

[finite atlas]

debian sid or nothing

[mellow parcel]

gentoo

[clear ferry]

Gentoo isn't fun anymore, no stage 1

[clear ferry]

I need to buy myself a new oscilloscope

Sold my old one 18 years ago

[static schooner]

I was directed to Rigol that can be easily hacked to unlock features

Works well

[clear ferry]

I saw those, never used a digital one though

In school I used Tektronix 454A

Also, ChatGPT is giving me early Wintermute vibes

Gonna break some ice soon

[late gate]

I have an digital oscilloscope I never used if h need one

[clear ferry]

Which one?

[late gate]

I can check tomorrow

[prisma briar]

I bought like a $40 USB 0-5v oscilloscope, it was alright for watching low-speed digital signals. I got a $8 logic analyzer that does that better though.

[forest edge]

only in california lol https://www.youtube.com/live/TlOUj7LkFCE?feature=share

[dusky plank]

I wonder how a 0v oscilloscope works

[clear ferry]

very sensitive

FUCK THOSE SPIKES

READING ALL OVER THE PLACE

I see dead people

https://open.spotify.com/track/51iikeZXGt1je4CQ6NeY91?si=b4e56c5867314f17

[clear ferry]

Weirdest band I ever encountered really, but they are really good, German band RPWL started as a Pink Floyd Cover band, now they make their own songs, and they are really good, and have the strangest live shows

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiLoVQhQPHc

[harsh heath]

Suction cups: better wet or dry?

my hair dryer fell in the middle of the night and scared the shit out of me

[glacial knot]

sounds more like the release of a good game 😂

[calm wind]

@midnight adder I guess we'd best continue here 🙂

[midnight adder]

Oh yea

hi

[calm wind]

Roel.. And scouting.. and work?

[midnight adder]

scouting

[calm wind]

Oooh wait

One of the 3 brothers?

[midnight adder]

Yes you gave me your laptop

[calm wind]

Yeah! There's also a Roel at work from which I know he is also active at scouting, and he uses Home Assistant

didn't know you were using Home Assistant though 🙂

[midnight adder]

Alr, I did join because I saw it on the "Explore Public Servers"

[calm wind]

ah okay

[scenic radish]

Second biggest US bank failure happened today, so today has been a "fun" day...

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/6lQY.gif

[last cedar]

Lol, this is worth googling

[spice imp]

have you tried this https://www.roastedby.ai/ ?

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze Fires, Snow, Flooding and Banks collapsing.. I think you should consider that move to Texas before it's too late lmao

[static schooner]

only their power grid fails

[forest edge]

solar is cheaper than ever I think, so off grid is possible

[tidal bronze]

Life couldn't be better @forest edge I am not certain what you are talking about. TX? Wouldn't wanna fly over that place

[forest edge]

https://img.ifunny.co/images/30d6eeefa23e2d0805fedbc8181481364cd42e4dcdd07b0e5a6b6c01a75490b8_1.jpg

[static schooner]

Wouldn't wanna fly over that place

[forest edge]

sounds about right

[tidal bronze]

News is bad for your health.

[forest edge]

News lately is super depressing lol

[finite atlas]

has it ever not been?

[forest edge]

yes

[finite atlas]

no

[glacial knot]

hey, we got some banking shenanigans to look forward to now

[forest edge]

maybe not since you started watching the news but I certianly seen times that weren't so gloomy lol

[static schooner]

Funny juxtaposition: https://mstdn.social/@maxkennerly/110000245338272219

In four days, Silicon Valley Bank went from Forbes' "Best Banks" and "Financial All-Stars" to FDIC receivership.

[glacial knot]

could it be that so called "industry experts" are only guessing as well?

[finite atlas]

noo, never

[forest edge]

Now would be the perfect time for the andreas fault line to start the tear that ultimatly leads to california sinking into the ocean lol

[last cedar]

Oh, how many pet raccoons do you have?

[forest edge]

There is racoons in LA.. I think one of the youtube channels that feature pest control is LA based and they show them getting the mother racoons and the babies out of people's attics and crawl spaces lol

[forest edge]

Just got a discord friend request from, "Check Bio or Coke will rape you"
Oh no's!

[last cedar]

Mmm, they are a bit invasive tbh

But also cute af

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/lxdFh8nYMgM

don't think i've ever seen a view like that. usually when helicopters film tornados they are so far away you can't make out stuff as clearly

[finite atlas]

all that confetti in the air 🥰

[forest edge]

this is kind of cool https://youtu.be/Py1hh45Lu68

[midnight adder]

🫡

[silk cosmos]

https://youtube.com/shorts/HEqljCO0WJY?feature=share.

Check our latest surprise.

[forest edge]

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/65/ff/ce/65ffce26d24ae74df59d018b611e12ef.jpg

[glacial knot]

hm, I kinda want to code up a HA custom integration controller that lets me (un)install custom integration with k8s CRs 😄

Or maybe just a startup container that reads a ConfigMap, since afaik HA custom integrations aren't dynamic either way 🤔

[glacial knot]

of course the first custom component I try to install (manually) doesn't work and I'm immediately not interested anymore 😓

[shadow prawn]

Atxbyea, you not doin couchsurfing, dont you?

[last cedar]

Only shitposting, like normal

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/693583922717523988/1084213117120168016/FB_IMG_1678566365484.jpg

[finite atlas]

no wait this is perfect

[last cedar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ContagiousLaughter/comments/11panuu/that_feeling_that_someone_is_walking_behind_you/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=13&utm_content=share_button

[floral folio]

I just had a drive die in my RAID 6 on my home server. They're all 4TB Western Digital Green drives I bought about 9 years ago. RAID is running fine right now, I'm just shopping around for drives and trying to decide if I want to go up in size.
I see NAS drives are popular thing right now.
Anyone else in here run their own not-data-center-busy home server with a RAID, and if so in this modern age do you care much about grabbing a "NAS" labeled drive or not?

[last cedar]

You want 24/7 rated drives for that sort of workload IMO. And if you are using ZFS, you shouldn't use SMR drives. WD Red Plus and Ironwolf drives are just natural choices

Greens have power savings and head parking that isn't always a good thing for raid

[last cedar]

Love it haha

[forest edge]

seriously what is a 24/7 "rated" drive these days? I see NAS drives die quicker than cheapo 7200's from time to time so...

[glacial knot]

yea, I didn't like my greens much

I just run my NAS on SSDs, no issues with spinning rust behaviour

[forest edge]

does that mean it equals out in the end by the ravaged helping speed up the rate of the planet becoming uninhabitable?

[glacial knot]

backblaze has pretty good analysis online

[forest edge]

the problem with that thinking is those not taking in the part that the apocalypse has to happen first before anything would be changed to help "prevent" one heh

[glacial knot]

I disagree on the only, but they are the ones that could actually use their weight to change things if they directed them altruistically

[forest edge]

what I mean is, there are too many "ravaged" people on the planet, those people don't care about the planet, if anything being "ravaged" just entices the act of making it all end faster. Those doing the ravaging may survive the aftermath, but what did they survive to live in? a hellish planet most likely..a poetic cycle kind of lol

a lot easier to change the minds of a fraction of billions of people than billions of people, which is why I said it takes the end to happen before you can convince people to try and prevent the end

but they will get theirs in the end

now if we had discovered another livable utopia planet that is reachable then I guess the rich would get away with it lol

good thing @umbral cliff isn't around to touch on this haha

[glacial knot]

private bunkers are en vogue. Especially since corona isolation started

[forest edge]

you won't want to survive the aftermath

so i wouldn't worry about it

saving the planet only aids those who have their foot on your throat

the end is coming regardless

it's inevitable

maybe not within your lifetime

but it's inevitable

they don't teach that in schools?

hell they taught the facts of the chances of all kinds of thing ending the earth when i went to school

talking about what happens after whatever fucks up the planet, regardless if it's man made or natural

you don't have to tag on every response btw lol

inevitable is just part of it. that's just scientific fact rather it be within 50 years or a billion the earth will no longer in some form or another not be able to sustain human life. accepting that is not depressing or anything. just fact of life. However the earth is already shifting right, we hadn't been able to "change our ways" yet, nothing indicates we will be able to in the future either. sooo put 2 and 2 together

most people on this planet literally don't care about pollution or waste or anything that aids the current climate change we already have. As you keep pointing out only a few rich control everything and everyone knows that so why would the "ravage" care? there is no reason to aid the rich to prolong thier raid and before anything CAN change, something drastic.. like the end of the earth has to happen to shift whats already in motion

we've known about what damages our planet for generations now, we've known about the hierarchy and the "%1" the whole time.. nothing has changed, shown any sign of changing this whole time. I get your hopeful and all but reality is reality lol

damages to our planet from pollution to garbage to killing wildlife and forest etc was taught to my parents in grade school

we're talking over 100 years of people openly knowing about the state of our planet and nothing being changed lol

wasn't it like 30 years ago they said if we didn't do massive drastic change that climate change would be irreversible? welcome to 2023 lol

well who knows.. when the temps outside reach on average of 100F maybe people will "deal" with the rich lol

but then again, it might take to the point we can cook our chicken next to a open window l;ol

doing what needs to be done

and what are you doing?

you gearing up to snipe bill gates?

I been hearing about the same complaints since the 60's

I haven't given up.. just know what's going to happen lol

[plain mist]

Off topic fibre question, is the fibre box suppose to go in here AND my internet router has to go in here aswell?

I have Ethernet ports in the walls in office

[forest edge]

Wikipedia states each new generation average IQ gets lower and lower as well lol

[plain mist]

Ok yeah cause ideally I wanted router in the office not in this metal box lol hopefully it's upstream...

[glacial knot]

split the router from the AP then it won't matter 😮

no need to always use those combo boxes

IQ is always set to be 100 average over the group it's calibrated for

[plain mist]

Idk tbh I guess don't need it lol

[forest edge]

well you should watch the movie Idiocracy, at least if we go that route maybe we won't be smart enough to really do anything to further damage the planet lol

[plain mist]

But seems like providers give round routers

I don't think it will fit I guess I can buy my own

[forest edge]

round router?

sounds amazon lol

[plain mist]

Yeah the ones that come with isps seem all round not square

White cylinders

[glacial knot]

round isn't a 3D shape. There's flat round things like the ubiquity APs that would fit easily

[umbral cliff]

You don't always need B

Good ISPs don't require that

[forest edge]

lol there he is

[umbral cliff]

I'm not talking about the modem, usually if its cable or fibre you have a provided NTD, then can put whatever other stuff you want after that

[glacial knot]

🤷 that's where living in areas that mandate free choice of router comes in as benefit

[umbral cliff]

Been here the whole time

[forest edge]

it's no longer my world to "save" so preaching to me is fruitless lol

yea I eat spicy foods.. i risk a lot

sounds like you got your work cut out for you

less chatty, more dooy

be quick though cause @tidal bronze is already drowning

[umbral cliff]

Not as much as atx and his raw meats

[forest edge]

thats for sure

well "talking to others" about what the problem has been done this whole time

everyone wants to be the talker

yet nothing ever changes

keep telling you

so you gearing up yet? or still just talking about it?

maybe in 40-50 years we'll move off the talking stage?

oh so the end of the earth has been pushed to the back burner?

welcome to the rest of us lmao

and so in 40-50 years when all your protesting yields exactly what the last 60+ years of people protesting yielded then what?

what frantic news cycles?

I see no change

wtf you smokin?

think that time has come and gone already. at least that's why they say about climate change lol

you should look the more recent documentaries about the ice melting around greenland and how all of that effects the global average temps.. you missed the boat man, i'm sorry

so everything that is fact is catastrophizing?

what an interesting view

frustration?

where do you come up with this?

[umbral cliff]

Except carbon capture has been shown as a method to look green without doing much

[forest edge]

"improve" lol

I guess living in 201F is better than 220F

[umbral cliff]

Its been regarded by the scientists and researchers in the climate area that carbon capture is not something that should be relied on, it is not anything that we know will work, its just all theoretical

There are a lot better things to focus on right now

Like plain reducing emissions rather than trying to play catch up

[forest edge]

space exploration lol

may not have a choice

even if it's just drifting in space in a aluminum frisbee

ding ding ding

so back to you investing in a house and family

make the most of what you got

when there is 1 minute left to live. would you rather be proud of spending your whole life battling an unwinnable war or just living the life you were given

you keep putting labels on the latter but most of us don't look at the way you do lol

[forest edge]

heh i seen that on a youtube short

@last cedar you should have an artist paint the side of your house like this but with a racoon lol https://youtu.be/y6XQ2GFow9g?t=335

what are you thinking is winnable?

so your "win" is just getting rid of the billionaires?

not sure what that's gonna accomplish on the grand scale of things at this point

[last cedar]

There will always be poor models, poor quality control and dodgy postal services 🤣

I see a non 24/7 rated drive as an invitation for it to not work, and a 24/7 rating as a glimmer of hope that it will work, which is why people use raid after all

[last cedar]

No, I am actually turning my house into a giant raccoon, like the wool structures in minecraft, using coyote fur and skin though

It would be nice with an even playing field

Or at least more even

[forest edge]

I will grant you that there are cheap cheap models of drives out there lol but on the average I think they are all pretty much made around the same quality/way. As I always grew up being taught the longevity of HD style drives comes from the speed 6400 and lower were targeted as "NAS" drives but these days they slap "NAS" on all kinds of drives with all kinds of speeds. Not even sure you can still get drives that around 5400rpm

but shit is irreversible already like in terms of climate change etc etc.. so what does freeing up all that "power" grant you?

uh

you serious?

at this point all we know is temps are going to continue to rise.. your right we may end up dying to other shit like massive earthquakes etc well before we reach 201F lol

you think climate change only impacts the temps?

what do you think climate change means?

tell that to turkey

they already chalk that earthquake being due to climate change

you should really look up what all climate change entails

not from what i been reading

[forest edge]

wtf does dodgy postal service have to do with drives? lol

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/throwing-package-viralhog-delivery-man-heres-your-mail-mailman-gif-23687962

Hdds don't like this

[forest edge]

oh please they can certianly survive that

[glacial knot]

get better delivery services D:

[forest edge]

I will say the seagate drive boxes seem a little.. lacking lol

[umbral cliff]

You have to pay the delivery drivers a proper wage to get that

[forest edge]

I mean here in the US the average is over 20 an hour

how much more does a job that require driving most the time need?

[glacial knot]

wdym they want more than https://www.kununu.com/de/deutsche-post/gehalt/zusteller-in-19670

[last cedar]

You sound like the HDD RMA department... "no, they are certified to survive nuclear holocaust, we are denying your RMA"

But then people wouldn't be a slave to corporations

And we can't have that /s

[finite atlas]

no need for /s

[last cedar]

I actually told my regional manager I was only working to pay my bills

He was shocked lol

[glacial knot]

How dare you not identify with the corporate mission and vision statements?

HyperV 🤢

[forest edge]

we had this discussion in this server already. people wouldn't be able to afford to live if that were to take place lol

[finite atlas]

according to the people at my job, other people demanding more money to survive in this inflated economy is the reason, they cant pay their bills

[umbral cliff]

Hadn't read the message above, thought you meant hyperV was helping not identify with corporate missing and vision statements lol

[forest edge]

like you said, don't buy the cheapo cheapo drives lol

[umbral cliff]

But how? Its already the case where people can't afford to live anyway

[forest edge]

weren't you the one that was part of that discussion?

[umbral cliff]

Don't think so

[forest edge]

think about it. when you raise pay rates, EVERYHTHING else has to raise along with it

[umbral cliff]

Yes, but currently everything is raising without wages anyway

So its a moot point

[glacial knot]

It certainly would, but it was indeed in a different context

[forest edge]

currently that is due to other factors

[finite atlas]

salaries of useless managers aswell

[forest edge]

even the min raise in some states effected everyone nationally to some level

people don't look at the broader scope of how that cycle regulates

[last cedar]

The problem would be that a rent for 4000 dollars would probably be 8000 dollars or more if this was the case, so people would be just as poor, and billionaires may be trillionaires

[forest edge]

here we go.. these "wished greed didn't exists" fantasies are just that, fantasies

[last cedar]

Who will make sure all the slaves are working if they don't employ more managers 🤣

It might backfire though, people will probably be better at hiding it

[forest edge]

funny you bring up rent.. it's literally doubled here since the whole min wage thing started lol

[last cedar]

I got this feeling, he couldn't understand why I didn't feel like part of the family when HR and my branch manager has broken my trust for them. I told him I didn't trust him either.

[forest edge]

you kids are trying to reinvent a wheel (rather it be square or not) that has been in place and been spinning for decades upon decades that everything else we know as our way of life was built on is like trying to play janga

[glacial knot]

Oh right, you complained about the cert thingy as well

[forest edge]

janga

[glacial knot]

My boss knows that I like my work, and the current environment
But don't associate with the company, but my actual tasks 🙂

[finite atlas]

Funny thing is, the more money you earn, the more exponentially you get taxed in germany. So you'll earn even less effectively.

[forest edge]

is this your default with everyone? lol

[glacial knot]

Not quite true

[finite atlas]

pretty true

[glacial knot]

It's not exponential in the upper 2 tax brackets, and neither the lowest iirc.

only for the middle class

[finite atlas]

duh, you are right

[last cedar]

Lots has been messed up, I probably shouldn't go into details, but I have seen everyones true colours now 🙂

[forest edge]

being realistic is not being irrational lol

[glacial knot]

progressive tax systems are seen as positive

[last cedar]

I would hope this will be the case, I really do. I have a vision in my head where things are reasonable, but that is not the same vision as the people who can make the changes, and that is the issue, I don't think world leaders want things to change

[finite atlas]

Partly.
If money inflates each year by 2% and you demand a 2% pay raise each year, you end up with less money.

[forest edge]

your trying to "hope" away an issue that is so buried, so connected that literally makes everything we know and do work without it fucking everything else up

and that is just not how it works

[finite atlas]

Because at least in germany, you get taxed exponentially more, the more you earn.

[forest edge]

optimistic you mean

[finite atlas]

Perhaps working for shitty companies, not doing anything about it but complaining and living a life where you are deeply dependent on others (rent, fuel, electricity and so on) is not a smart choice.

Back to Socialism! /s

I just recently got ourself a big solar setup with batteries. Now that we can cook without worrying about electricity prices, food is pretty cheap aswell.

Probably saves us like 300€ a month for a already super low income household.

[last cedar]

Admit that you had a lot of fun making it too 🤣

[finite atlas]

25kWh useable capacity fully DIY'd @dry tendon

[glacial knot]

Which is largely a fail of legislators not adjusting the tax brackets for inflation though.

They should really be relative to consumer price index instead of raw € values

[finite atlas]

|| /s means sarcasm in case you are not familiar with online slang ||

[last cedar]

Those clamps to the right... are they for punchdown insertion?

[finite atlas]

guess, lol

[finite atlas]

they are just 2 wire probes for accurate measurment

[last cedar]

Aha, like a ducks beak then?

Sleep well!

[finite atlas]

how else would i connect wires to the batteries without solder?

also sleep well :)

[finite atlas]

yep

[glacial knot]

Are they all in parallel?

[finite atlas]

that goto is terrible for larger packs and safety

[finite atlas]

240 in parallel
14 of those parallel packs in series

i dont use reddit

yup, thats terrible for safety

blocking off the safety vent and having no short circuit protection

if one cell goes bad, it wont disconnect and gets charged by all others while its shorting itself

🔥

https://tenor.com/view/must-unsee-spongebob-washing-eyes-cant-look-gif-14237119

see, hbpowerwall has it done right

no spotwelded nickel stripes but "fuse" wires

[last cedar]

Aha, so each link is a fuse, clever

So replacing the links with spanners is a bad idea

2000A slow blow

[finite atlas]

on a small scale you are probably fine
but if you wanna do it properly or for more than 100 cells you should go fused

[finite atlas]

at what currents does 35mm2 "fuse wires" melt?

[last cedar]

Ooof, it could be somewhere north of 1500A I would guess

[umbral cliff]

Ngl never considered energy cost when cooking dinner. An hour of the oven on would cost less than $0.60 here so it's a whatever cost

Cheaper than some fruit or veg

[finite atlas]

baking bread yourself saves a good amount of money

[last cedar]

35mm2 is for like 170A or there abouts right?

[finite atlas]

probaly, idk
it works just fine for my 120A

[last cedar]

1500A to melt might be way off then lol

[umbral cliff]

But it takes time. And I don't have time

[glacial knot]

most of that time is idling though

unless you are hungry now and need that bread now it's not 2h of your time. Probably closer to 10min

once you are used to it. When you try it, it's gonna be a lot more time invested

[umbral cliff]

Don't you have to actually do stuff to make the dough

[last cedar]

Please stop, I want a bread maker now

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-salivating-drooling-drool-saliva-gif-22893007

[glacial knot]

really not a lot. Especially with modern kitchen equipment.

If you want to start from seeds and grow your own corn and [...] and, then it's a lot of work

[umbral cliff]

What equipment do you need

Minus the farm part for the seeds to corn etc

[finite atlas]

fair point

[finite atlas]

a pot to mix the ingredience and a oven

perhaps a spoon or two aswell

[glacial knot]

Depending on how lazy you want to be a bread maker
or just one of those https://www.clatronic.de/media/catalog/product/cache/6fd9e5eaa1e3ed770717679386027d1e/h/m/hm_3775_01_72_notest.jpg

well, with different prongs, but you get the idea

[forest edge]

just get a kitchenaid

[finite atlas]

thats what i have a sometimes lovely grandma for

my grandparents are bored a lot and happily do such stuff to save money

[umbral cliff]

Too expensive, Ill stick with something cheaper

[umbral cliff]

Though breadmaker sounds fun lol

[forest edge]

dunno about AU but they use to be high but you can get them pretty affordable these days. there are knock offs that are cheaper which is probably why the actual kitchenaids dropped in price

[umbral cliff]

Yeah we have a sunbeam branded one here, works well enough, just no bread hooks

Still reasonably expensive here

[last cedar]

Awesome!

[prisma briar]

Hmm, I should make something that'll measure the color of the sky outside then set my lights inside to match.

[prisma briar]

I think I'd use a colorimeter for that. Something like a webcam would have too much variance in white balance, I think.

Or find a camera I can lock the white balance on

[finite atlas]

or perhaps use a already existing daytime to lightcolor map ?

[forest edge]

what happens when the sky goes from cloudy to clear to cloudy to clear throughout the day?

[finite atlas]

does it really have to be that precise ?

[prisma briar]

Yes.

I want my lights to turn orange when there's smoke in the air or purple when there's a crazy sunrise.

[finite atlas]

the pi cam with a pi zero might be a decent choice

[wary sorrel]

So bad can not wait till GPT4 can be apart of HA. So many possibility. 🔥

[last cedar]

Indoor cloud generator

[last cedar]

I think the easiest way is to just live outside, at that point 🤣

[static schooner]

That's where the trash is, anyway

[glacial knot]

Vapes?

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/a3PxxEoW7ZA

[night zodiac]

someone killed the internet

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze see what you are missing.. https://youtu.be/5Fby_M6_VbE

[last cedar]

This is crazy

[forest edge]

priceless you mean

[last cedar]

Probably

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/dcA0WbJt5ek

[last cedar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/woof_irl/comments/11rmzes/woof_irl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=13&utm_content=share_button

[inner lava]

A question to you all: What are your favorite self-hosted services 👀
Searching for a few new fun projects for myself.

[clever mortar]

Paperless, Photoprism, Wiki.JS/Bookstack, YourSpotify to name but a few

[glacial knot]

Thx for paperless mention

[clever mortar]

Paperless is awesome, since we started using it to scan and OCR old documents it's saved us so much time searching for things

[inner lava]

Photoprism sounds nice, I have a Synology NAS with the Photos app currently but it doesn't reeeally do what I'd want it to, hm. Sounds interesting enough for me to try.

[glacial knot]

Have you tried to do stupid things?
I wonder if I can integrate it with photoprism and just take photos of documents and if there's some document tag export to paperless 🤔

[forest edge]

I wonder if anyone ever did a project that does like those "smart home" shows do where every single piece paper gets scanned and logged via internal cameras in the home

[floral folio]

https://youtu.be/MhuIGLV97Kw

[pallid willow]

Today is one of the days I cannot English properly

[forest edge]

seems you got the spelling right on that last attempt tho

[last cedar]

Tags came!

[dusky plank]

TIL you can order weapons on ebay and get them delivered without customs trouble

[prisma briar]

Nice, my google coral shipped

[mellow parcel]

nethem where from?

[prisma briar]

Mouser

They still have more in stock

https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Coral/G650-04686-01?qs=XeJtXLiO41RGZJDf5bMhyQ%3D%3D&countryCode=US&currencyCode=USD

@mellow parcel ^

[static schooner]

715 Can Ship Immediately
🎉

[prisma briar]

It was 900-something on order when I ordered mine like the second week of February.

[prisma briar]

Literally your only message is joining this server and asking people to fill out your survey.

That's just disrespectful to the server.

[scenic radish]

I'm also pretty sure opt-in surveys like this don't follow proper survey methodology anyway...

[umbral cliff]

Sounds like undergrad where it's more of a babies first survey thing

[mellow parcel]

to bad you can't easily shobe the b+m into an e keyed slot

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze man too much shit going on the news for me to keep tagging you but i'll spare you this latest thing.

[mellow parcel]

after i move; i want to re my thx device's ble

[forest edge]

nice. that a racoon choking rope with customized grips at the ends to better hold onto?

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge got any hot updates on some kickass avocado toast breakfast restaurants?

[forest edge]

funny you should say that cause what I was about to do was tell you to hurry up and get to florida for that that massive all-you-can-eat seaweed bloom that is threatening their coast rotf

get while the gettin's good sort of speak

[tidal bronze]

As soon as they install statewide dehumidifiers, yep

[forest edge]

haven't been there since 2003. it was tolerable most of the time i was there tho

[tidal bronze]

Life ain't worth living if it's tolerable 😀

[forest edge]

well it's why old people flock there. the humidity helps the skin at that point so you talk shit now, but you may end up there in the end lol

[tidal bronze]

BTW you want any water? I remember you were so worried about lack of water in California 🤣

[forest edge]

desert gulch one day, the beginning of noah's journey the next huh lol

[tidal bronze]

Now you can switch to almond milk completely. We are going to send them out at a discount.

[forest edge]

all the cows drown did they?

[tidal bronze]

Remember? It's california. They learn surfing at a very young age.

[forest edge]

pretty sure that's Hawaii. I'm having my doubts the coast waters along california after 2000 is safe enough for surfing lol

[tidal bronze]

How come you are so attracted to humidity?

[forest edge]

i'm midwest.. not south lol

[tidal bronze]

Wow you said it out loud.

[forest edge]

what? that i'm blessed?

[tidal bronze]

I have no idea what that means.

[forest edge]

have you been still flying in out of the state during your whole apocalyptic weather thing going on?

[tidal bronze]

It's been 2 weeks, missing home 😩

[forest edge]

locked out? planes not equipped with pontoons to be able to land in califronia?

[prisma briar]

There's an A+E coral too

I guess it's just E key. https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Coral/G650-06076-01?qs=W%2FMpXkg%252BdQ6LZJp2eyeh4w%3D%3D

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge some serious rain last few days too.

[prisma briar]

And it's sold out with a 38 week lead time

[forest edge]

yea the news rolling out of your state is just crazy

[mellow parcel]

drought solved?

[forest edge]

and despite all the weather stuff going on, the political news rolling out of california is just as equally nuts lol

[mellow parcel]

that sounds like most of usa

going down the gutter atm

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge you should try a month of audio books. Life is beautiful thing.

[mellow parcel]

all the chaotic weathers gonna make us have to move to indoor farming

[tidal bronze]

Do we have any issues with farming?

[mellow parcel]

in a few places

and only getting crazier

[forest edge]

as a sleep aid?

[last cedar]

Yes

[finite atlas]

jellyfin

[low harness]

bitwarden

[prisma briar]

HA

[glacial knot]

*arr

[forest edge]

was some kind of great racoon migration thing happening last night. had to been a dozen or so racoons crossing by the barn

[last cedar]

We have started the operation

[forest edge]

Operation Bulk Filament?

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/mobbed-raccoons-raccoon-sausages-man-gif-19231249

[last cedar]

@forest edge what do you think happens when he runs out of sausages?

https://tenor.com/view/caveira-skeleton-ive-been-waiting-gif-13523984

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/beagles-release-the-hounds-dogs-car-cute-gif-16395786

[last cedar]

@forest edge the raid was a bust

Stevens fault

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DfJEOVTLwJs

[forest edge]

I just watched that like an hour ago lol

i saw that

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ice-cream-licking-ice-cream-cone-gif-26501943

I pressed wrong lol@forest edge

[forest edge]

uh huh.. meme freudian slip

[last cedar]

Scrolling through gifs is difficult with paws

[forest edge]

oh neat. those aliens you see at the end of the A.I. movie with Haley Osmet will find plastic rocks after we all perish lol https://youtu.be/Z5UoVDxjG1g

[silver night]

Hi guys! I'm looking for the base64 IR code for the display toggle from a GREE AC unit. I want to use it with SmartIR and Broadlink. Does anyone here have it or know where to find it? Thanks a lot!

[dusky plank]

Flipper has a big database for IR codes

[forest edge]

@last cedaryou were so close to needing a baking soda bath https://youtu.be/cVk-Fb_9NLQ

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/jayz-awkward-oof-yikes-reaction-gif-25603930

[prisma briar]

Sometimes I wonder if anyone ever actually uses these shit IoT apps that get published.

My dryer indefinitely will beep every 90s or so if laundry is removed before it finishes, which is stupid enough as-is. I forgot to turn it off and sat down in another room before I heard it beep.

Fine, I'll use their app to turn it off, that's like the one thing it can do. Nope, it loads to a full page error stating it paused because the door was opened and wasn't resumed, only option the stupid app gives me is to contact support or back out to the main menu.

It literally loads to the screen that has the power options I want before interrupting me and throwing that stupid error.

[tidal bronze]

The washer story ended abruptly ☹️

[static schooner]

WTF @last cedar ? Not only mating with dogs to create these mutant 'raccoon dogs', but also causing a global pandemic? https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/new-report-suggests-covid-pandemics-origins-linked-raccoon/story?id=97934478

🙂

[scenic radish]

Raccdogs
Dogoons

[static schooner]

Dogoons FTW

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge any news from California?

[forest edge]

there's always news from california. you want apocalyptic, political, pornographic or just plain insanity?

[forest edge]

My girl uses the LG app to start/stop/whatever the washer/dryer all the time. Really boils down to what appliance you get and rather their app is worth a shit

[prisma briar]

Mine are Samsung.

Generally you can't control it at all unless a remote control option has been activated that resets at every power-on of the appliance, but the one option it still exposes is power off when it's on and idle.

[forest edge]

Control from an "Off" state is always going to be limited when it comes to things like washer and dryer. however once a cycle starts you have just as much control over the unit as you do at the machine pretty much with LG atleast

Dishwasher is an exception where you can start a cycle at any point etc, it makes more sense for that appliance

[prisma briar]

Oh, nice, Samsung added an option to the smart control to keep it always active

That makes it 100x more useful

[umbral cliff]

Except has limited benefit since you still have to load the tablet/ dishwashing detergent
So you may as well start it on the device

[static schooner]

Yeah, the only thing my 'smart' washer/dryer did was tell me when they were done, but that's easily done with HA and a power monitor plug. It did nothing for transferring stuff into the dryer, much less putting clothes away 🙂

[forest edge]

not uncommon to run the dishwasher after going to bed or something along those lines. I could see someone forgetting to start it before going to work than remembering on lunch break or something

[umbral cliff]

But that still requires putting a tablet in
Which at least for us we don't put a tablet in unless we run it straight away after

[forest edge]

well people who only run it during certian times get it all ready to go well before starting it

you could always have it ready to go right after emptying it from the last load

[static schooner]

Mine has an auto dispenser for liquid

[umbral cliff]

@last cedar

[static schooner]

Fake dogoon

[forest edge]

don't give @last cedar any ideas.. the neighbors would likely shoot it on site

[last cedar]

Not if I shoot the neighbours first

[last cedar]

I love this ❤️

[last cedar]

I am sorry! Omg

I liked it more when they were blaming bats tbh

[forest edge]

wtf discord just NOW comes out with themes and puts them behind a paywall lol

[finite atlas]

yup

7 years after its been created

[last cedar]

#just2023things

To be fair, the free platform is pretty lit, and you don't have to use Skype anymore, so I see it as a win

[forest edge]

lol yea.. nm that ancient old ass irc clients could do appearance stuff way more advanced than even what limited selection of themes offers

I dunno, discord started out with the whole slogan of NEVER being a paid anything and while you don't need nitro to do most the stuff the fact it exists is just a step toward discord at some point becoming like the others

but i guess now after all these years they did finally manage to get discord on a console is something

[icy gorge]

We have to pay an there keep our data 🤷.

[forest edge]

pretty sure no one wants @last cedar 's racoon data

[last cedar]

This is always in the back of my mind, I went to discord because skype was becoming so integrated with microsoft, but I have nothing against finding a new platform to shitpost about raccoons on

[last cedar]

Just update all my mqtt/ home assistant etc docker and everything broke

Only joking it works flawlessly

Thank you to everyone involved in making this stuff that even a racoon can make work

[forest edge]

but how can you be sure your racoon tracker is even working when it always says 0 tracked

[last cedar]

We stick to the shadows

https://tenor.com/view/froze-stop-moving-not-moving-still-standing-gif-16669739

Completely invisible

[forest edge]

if my 4g connection to the barn didn't have a throttle cap i would so set up one of those 24/7 youtube streaming things that shows all the critters that roam around it

[last cedar]

@clear ferry found a great accessory for you Volvo

https://www.reddit.com/r/Shitty_Car_Mods/comments/11u7x8h/this_guy_gets_laid_a_lot/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[livid sinew]

Im sure its been asked a million times in the last few days. But should I worry/do anything about the docker thing? Is HA affected?

[clever mortar]

Ignore it

[livid sinew]

Perfect, I was hoping for this 😄

[glacial knot]

I assume NabuCasa takes care of it, since they rely on HA being readily available^^

[scenic radish]

The wut

[glacial knot]

Are you confused by my comment, or by what the docker thing is?

[scenic radish]

The docker thing

[glacial knot]

they removed the free tier for organizations

[clever mortar]

They've pulled/are pulling the free Docker Teams thing

[glacial knot]

we already had a container vanish that we rely on at work

[clever mortar]

Which is irrelevant

[dusky plank]

that happened a year ago ?

[clever mortar]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35154025

https://www.docker.com/blog/we-apologize-we-did-a-terrible-job-announcing-the-end-of-docker-free-teams/

[glacial knot]

I think they removed access to some features (or all of?) docker desktop in the free tier a year ago

[dusky plank]

yeah docker desktop was killed license wise for enterprises last year

[glacial knot]

They just scuffed their announcement of that change

[low harness]

Who uses(d) docker desktop, really?

[clever mortar]

People who didn't know better?

[glacial knot]

does it do anything the container integration in vscode can't? 🤔
Actually never looked into it

[finite atlas]

i did, once and never again

[prisma briar]

Going to try making my own voice assistant for Home Assistant using LLaMA and OpenAI Whisper. Going to make a script to generate prompts for LLaMA with the current state of HA like this example and parse commands received in the output.

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/bxGWb.gif

[leaden adder]

Is Home Assistant mentioned in the new movie M3ghan?

It’s linked in the German Wikipedia article: https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3GAN
It looks like an error though

[forest edge]

that has to be a linking error with wiki. If it was refering to HA the h and A would have been capitalized on the wiki

[leaden adder]

Sad 😂 I would have loved it

I don’t want to spoil you so I can’t talk further 😶

[forest edge]

i mean the error promotes HA regardless anytime someone hovers it just like how you found it soo..

[willow hawk]

so, RGYB, right?

Haha nope

My eye twitched when I noticed that

[dusky plank]

Is this a playstation keyboard?

[willow hawk]

Logitech Harmony, but they had a specific add on for the PS3 and it was a huge highlight of the system around that time

[dusky plank]

makes sense to have the colored function buttons on a keyboard made for compatibility with tvs

I cannot live without these colored buttons on my remote

[willow hawk]

The red and the green are swapped on the keyboard VS every Harmony remote I own

Sony and the public can’t even agree on what order they should be represented in lmao

[umbral cliff]

You actually use them? But why

[dusky plank]

exactly because they are useless in tv navigation. i trigger ha webhooks with them

[forest edge]

cable boxes also use the colored buttons for various things such as menu navigation etc

[static schooner]

@forest edge Check this out if you haven't already: https://www.litter-robot.com/manual_pdf/LR4_Recalibrating_DFI-Lasers-EN.pdf. You need to update to the latest firmware, but it's made waste level detection much more accurate for me. I feel like it was overestimating by like 20% before recalibrating the laser

[dusky plank]

y'all sleeping in here

[prisma briar]

Heh. I set up a camera in my backyard and set Frigate's object detection to see if a dog/person is out there and start recording if so. I just realized I'm basically making a collection of videos of my dog pooping.

[forest edge]

nice! maybe now the damn drawer will hold more than thimble full worth of crap

[static schooner]

Mine got really bad a week or so ago where it always thought it was full. I used compressed air and a qtip dipped in Windex and it got better

[forest edge]

not even looked at the sensor if thats what your referring to windexing

[static schooner]

The plastic lens

At the top of the arch

Pretty sure it gets dusty and confused

[forest edge]

that sensor is for triggering when something enter the unit

you saying they use that to guage poop level?

[static schooner]

Not just that

That's the point of the calibration

Yes, through the dump hole while it's cycling

[forest edge]

well thats stupid

[static schooner]

There are two lasers

[forest edge]

the dump shoot opening is so small compared to the drawer it's no wonder the damn drawer dosen't hold much

[static schooner]

It sweeps across it

It's actually an improvement over the 3 in that regard

The 3 misses a big portion of the drawer completely

[forest edge]

yet the 3 didn't have issues with filling the drawer. at least in my case

even now with the 3 still running strong

[static schooner]

I get the same week or so from the 4 that I got with the 3

[forest edge]

after the recalibration..

[static schooner]

Empty on trash day

Pretty much the whole time I've had it until a week or so ago

[forest edge]

I get 3 days max with 2 cats

[static schooner]

I just recalibrated so need to see

[forest edge]

on the lr4

I get about 7 days on the lr3 with 4 cats prior

[static schooner]

Then try calibration

Is it actually full?

[forest edge]

the lr4? no it's always stupid low lol

[static schooner]

Then it's not full. Try the calibration

So your complaint is just with it saying it's full, not actually being full

[forest edge]

yea. both units are the same way so that means calibration out of factory is shiet

but you said you got days worth before recalibrating

so that confuses me

[static schooner]

I can't remember it actually saying it was full until a week or so ago, and I've only emptied it once a week

[forest edge]

light never blinked blue?

[static schooner]

That's definitely the first time it actually stopped cycling because it was full

I don't think so

Until last week

[forest edge]

don't you have two cats?

[static schooner]

Yep

[forest edge]

sure they aren't maybe sharing the load between the unit and the toliet or maybe some corner?

[static schooner]

Again, you were saying that the drawer wasn't really full...

[forest edge]

no

[static schooner]

#the-water-cooler message

[forest edge]

the amount of poop in the drawer is crazy little

makes you feel like your wasting trash bags every time

[static schooner]

Everything you're saying sounds like you just need to calibrate it

[forest edge]

i'll try it

[static schooner]

When mine is full, it's quite full

[forest edge]

the poop level only comes up to half the height of the drawer and is usually mostly all in the center rather than spread out

like a small mountain shape

not sure if you are calling that full or if your saying yours fills up 3 qtr of the drawer completely or what

[static schooner]

Fills it pretty completely

[forest edge]

yea i've never had either of mine do that

[mellow parcel]

ewww shat

[static schooner]

sometimes I shake it down, but I think it does a better job of distributing than the 3

[forest edge]

now the truth comes out lol

[static schooner]

I really don't have to do that because it doesn't actually get full

in any case, don't let the machine tell you its full and make you empty it if it's not actually full 🙂

[forest edge]

was there some kind of post about the recalibration or something? how did you find out about it?

[mellow parcel]

slave to the machines.... sigh

[static schooner]

I starting Googling when mine was stuck on "full" and found a reddit post

[forest edge]

yours got stuck on full?

[static schooner]

that was this whole bit: #the-water-cooler message

with the cleaning and such

[forest edge]

it's all the bells and whistles that is causing the issues with these machines and watch the LR5 will have some kind of touch screen that always misinterprets where you press

[mellow parcel]

does it handle racoon poo?

[forest edge]

no @last cedar wouldn't fit

[static schooner]

it's a combo poop container/racoon feeder

[forest edge]

@static schoonerhave you tried and/or got the unit to update by using the updater thing in HA?

[static schooner]

no, but I've also had issues with the actual app

this last time I had to try it like 5 times

[forest edge]

yea i hate the way the app does it

[static schooner]

I don't think it matters how you kick it off, it's just not very reliable

[forest edge]

you can't exactly tell if something is working unless that white light flahes on the unit

[static schooner]

oh, I didn't know about that

I just wait it out

[forest edge]

yea the last light, the wifi whatever light flashes on the unit when the update is actually doing something

[static schooner]

this last time it was connected to a far away AP and I locked it to a better one. then it updated the next time I tried

[forest edge]

they need to make it so the firmware can be updated through the usb port

i am sure it can in some way now, but no access to download the firmware makes it impossible to try

[last cedar]

We call it recycling

[forest edge]

@last cedareats poop!

https://youtu.be/xbliO41z7Gs

[static schooner]

I hate it when people distribute containers that include no editor whatsoever in the container image.

[glacial knot]

We build containers that contain only the binary and required libraries :0

[static schooner]

at least in open source, it's really helpful to be able to poke around and see what's going on without needing to use more 🙂

all I ask for is "vi"

[dusky plank]

Just install them if you need them?

Apk is as easy as apt

[static schooner]

it's debian-based, but you're absolutely right that apt update; apt install vim did it

[glacial knot]

LoL containers that contain package managers

[dusky plank]

You can also map any binaries you want to run in the container with volumes… lots of tricks for these situations 🙂

[glacial knot]

Or sidecar another container into the pod and do some magic with /proc/[pid]/root as I recently found out

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-gif-26166638

[glacial knot]

😉 you got it

[rugged crystal]

Does anyone know what the name of the mounting system is on the bottoms/sides of devices like power strips, routers, and modems?

[forest edge]

the screw holes?

[rugged crystal]

Yeah the ones that sometimes look like keyholes if they're only in a single direction

[forest edge]

those go by keyhole hanger or slot hangers

[rugged crystal]

❤️ Thank you!!

[gleaming crater]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUNNd1233qk if anybody needs some buttery beats in their life today

[subtle pasture]

A touch screen would be a pretty terrible addition to a Litter Robot. They already adjusted the button design on the LR4 to prevent cats from pressing the buttons (which was an issue for some owners on the LR3)

I just wish the LR4 ramp would come out already. I have an 18 year old kitty, and he's having some serious trouble getting in and out of the LR4 with the step

[static schooner]

they sell an adapter for the LR3 ramp

but yeah, I don't know why it's taking so long

[subtle pasture]

I'd rather not buy a $50 ramp just to replace it with a $60 ramp in 2 months, but yeah...

[static schooner]

they're also late on the "track cats by weight" functionality

luckily, I have a fat cat and a normal-sized cat and can tell them apart

[mellow parcel]

i prefer ramps too being disabled

[subtle pasture]

Isn't the cat tracking feature dependent upon the (as yet unreleased) camera add-on?

Supposedly, that's what the USB port in the top of the unit is for

Another thing the LitterRobot could do with: An audible alert/alarm

I had to make an automation to have Alexa call out (hourly, during daylight hours) when the LR4 needs more litter, or needs to be emptied, because none of us check the lights on the unit, and notifications from the app are incredibly unreliable

If it could just beep every once in a while, on its own, it'd solve a lot of problems <_<

[dusky plank]

litter robot and camera... we are approaching this channel's true nature 💩

[subtle pasture]

Poop and poop-adjacent activities. lol

[glacial knot]

The best value add. Automatically get a video mailed of your cat pooping

[static schooner]

poop and racoons R us

[thorny heron]

https://github.com/maxi1134/Home-Assistant-Config/issues/14

When your partners start using your repo to tell you what is bugging.

Great success

How do y'all ask people to report bugs?

[forest edge]

yea I don't get why this isn't already on the unit. it's not like they couldn't have put a mute option on it for those that don't want to hear any noise and it could have followed the sleep schedule

[subtle pasture]

I've honestly thought about plugging an ESP8266 dev board into the hidden USB port so I could add features, like a piezo speaker, to the LitterRobot

Piezo speaker, VOC sensor (air quality), maybe a camera (would require an ESP32 rather than an ESP8266, but meh, not that big a difference)

But I already solved the biggest issue by having HomeAssistant monitor the LitterRobot, and issue voice alerts via a nearby Echo Dot.

Why isn't there an Alexa skill for this directly from Whisker? Who knows!

[forest edge]

inexperienced dev department. the shear amount of bugs and issues they are having suggests they bit off more than they can chew. I submitted a help ticket to them 3 days ago and my only response so far was the automated they are experiencing high volumes of inquirers and will get back to me when they can

I just hope they don't go under. I can't even imagine the amount of money they had lost due to warranty claims if even a qtr of the units sold has had to replace what all i had replaced

[mystic copper]

Dear Crowd Supply, please may I have my Yellow as soon as possible because Alexa isn't able (in my region) to not turn the lights on at 6am if the sun has already risen.

[minor spindle]

Yo, just getting this tested https://www.smarthomebox.cz/en any thoughts on this?

[forest edge]

lulz always find it funny when other "people" take open source shit and try and make it seem like it's their own creation

[umbral cliff]

Lol

[umbral cliff]

Especially charging more for something ha can do anyway

[junior forge]

I just send an email, I want the pro one

As that one has "advanced automation", curious to find out what it is

[minor spindle]

Whole box cost me to build around $600 and 4-8 hours of 3D modeling, rendering and programming.

[minor spindle]

I am also working on a dashboard where I can showcase all data from persons buildings.

I am trying to make some extra money here as I would like to quit my job and trying to focus on something I really enjoy. I appreciate every feedback, thanks. Btw whole thing is made just by me and my dad.

[umbral cliff]

Then big tip to you, highlight it's running home assistant and don't charge for things that already work in HA
Just charge for setup and management costs, SaaS style

[minor spindle]

Thanks for the tip, you really have a point there and I will highlight it. I haven't mentioned that backend runs on the homeassist, but there is no charge for this software at all. That's why I can see this being really unique when I compare it to other smarthomes in Czech Republic/UK which can go from $5000 for "ugly" non-interactive interface and without advanced features. This box with installation, manufacturing, design, programming will cost about $2000-3000 per one home.

[minor spindle]

I am open to any other hardware that would make sense if you could suggest.

[blissful hull]

Can you spot the smartness? 😉

[clever mortar]

I hope it's not running on an SD card...

[forest edge]

it was HA.. that site is selling HA on a rpi without mentioning HA or anything lol

[minor spindle]

runs on SSD

[minor spindle]

I am not selling the product yet - read the whole page.

[forest edge]

I'm all for anyone wanting to sell a machine fitted for HA as an alternative to like the yellow. even selling "training" or customized dashboards to go with it.

but that site comes off as it being something completely separate and different and it really shouldn't imo

[minor spindle]

I might have made a mistake in choosing right words to describe the service. In theory how I wish it to work would be:

1. Company "A" makes 20 of the same housing units a year and I will provide them with service (3D and installation), hardware and software build up homeassistant for each unit.
2. Regular home owner will order a service where we need to scan the unique house, 3D model and do the programming.

[forest edge]

yea you should word it accordingly. Like installers do for like control4 systems etc

[finite atlas]

Intel Nuc, even the low power atom/celeron/pentium ones are leagues ahead of a rpi

[forest edge]

for what?

[finite atlas]

this @forest edge

HA with some special extras

[forest edge]

I didn't see anything on there that the pi couldn't handle

no sense buying a ferrari just to cruise at 24kph

[dusky plank]

Pi4 is a 4 year old computer at this point, i don‘t like to compare them with current gen cpus

[finite atlas]

why pay ferrairy prices for a toy car
just look how much a pi costs nowdays

[forest edge]

well i don't disagree with the over price, which is why I made the statement that i was all for someone making a fitted machine for HA like the yellow

[finite atlas]

and perhaps his software developes in the future to something more complex and demanding

[forest edge]

he would have to do like what hubitat does

[finite atlas]

and that is?

[forest edge]

as features evolve they release upgraded hardware

to accomidate

which is a joke, cause hubitate is like roku's in the sense of quality but it's the buisness model

[finite atlas]

or perhaps pay 50€ more in a 2000€ service, to not bother the customer with their system needing upgrades in 4 years

[forest edge]

depends on his plan.. if there is any type of subscription or being "on call" he wants repeat buisness

why sell something that never needs to be touched again?

that's just bad buisness

[finite atlas]

because the buyer might be smart and choose the product with the lowest long term cost

[forest edge]

as long as the setup he sells functions for what the client wants at the point of sell.. anything else down the road is no diffrent than buying a better tv etc

[last cedar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lego/comments/11y7zri/no_chance_the_ring_is_making_it_to_mordor/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=13&utm_content=share_button

[glacial knot]

because the buyer might be smart
found the problem

[forest edge]

I think hubitat is a complete ripoff, yet they have a client base, people shell out that $150-200+ for those devices and will shell it out again for the next revision of the hardware etc

[finite atlas]

sounds like apple to me

[forest edge]

there is a lot of "products" in the world that is exactly that

[finite atlas]

yup

[umbral cliff]

At least apple gives you something genuinely different at the moment (with their M1/2 chips)

[glacial knot]

Is it different? Do you ever notice the ISA of your systems?

[umbral cliff]

With its long battery life and good performance and low heat yes

[forest edge]

I think if someone was able to mass produce a machine built specifically for HA able to handle the most basic of uses for the platform and keep the cost down and sell it as cheaply as possible.. people would gobble it up and they would shell out way more than what the hardware was worth as long as the machine did exactly what it claimed to do

why it's sad the rpi zero isn't supported by HA.. that thing would be friggen awesome in so many use cases

@tidal bronze holy shit tell me this isn't accurate lmao https://youtu.be/feMRUH35jQo

[glacial knot]

some of it is pretty dumb indeed. Especially with the possible movements in that channel

[forest edge]

any bets when fully ai created movies will release? I don't mean cgi or ai assisted; Talking about full created from start to finish movie. including script and voices

[static schooner]

Like https://m.twitch.tv/watchmeforever

[forest edge]

haha yea but actually graphically watchable

[clear ferry]

https://open.spotify.com/track/5Klo65Y9uouLjNVDV3pqh7?si=uVhCvtfuRrSe2jImSB0kmQ

[finite atlas]

yes

[last cedar]

What happened to Steven?!

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-distorted-gif-12764511

[last cedar]

Exactly

[static schooner]

@forest edge Did you try the calibration? Mine was reporting ~40% until last night and then shot up to 122% this morning even after a manual cycle, but went down to 50% when I power-cycled it

[static schooner]

BTW, just a PSA for folks using docker compose who are sick of containers being unnecessarily recreated and restarted: https://github.com/docker/compose/issues/9600

[clear ferry]

I had that happen a few weeks ago when I migrated my containers to a new pool

But I just downed and purged and upped

And it was fixed

[static schooner]

it was a regression in 2.16, fixed in 2.17

[clear ferry]

Probably two different issues, with similar symptoms then

[static schooner]

yeah, there were some separate issues mentioned in there, too

[rugged crystal]

Does anyone have any suggestions on mounting keyhole hanger (aka slot hanger) devices, like a router or modem, inside of a server enclosure/rack? My Google searches only turn up results about the hardware for mounting shelves on walls and the like

[clear ferry]

what on earth is a slot hanger ?

that said, I haven''t had a modem in a decade and my router has either been 1U or a maxi tower for the last 20 years

😄

[rugged crystal]

Slot hanger, I've been told, is another name for the mounting holes on the bottom of routers, modems, power strips, etc that look like key holes

[clear ferry]

oh

yeah, mostly anything you put in a rack is rack mountable, or you use shelves

[late gate]

Overkill, here wo come!

haha should host plex on the router now!

[clear ferry]

Noice

[late gate]

only thing im not 100% happy with opnsense is the UI. You have haproxy that is the default people use it seems, but also support nginx proxy (not the web ui), and traefik from a 3rd party repo. Sad thing with traefik you just get one box to put all config in, and traefik is the one I have learned. Now I have to choose between haproxy and nginix

[clear ferry]

I have used *sense for 18 years

I started using haproxy this year for fun only

I do all my proxying inside my networks

just forward 443 to the traefik container inside your network

[late gate]

a bit of the point was to have just one point of failure for router, dns (eg adguard/pihole) and proxy. That would cover all my "edge" services

I setup haproxy and it works alright, just not too fan of the UI

[clear ferry]

haproxy is pretty simple, I just wish I could paste config instead of clicking in the UI

[late gate]

doesnt work on portainer though, just fails with ERR_HTTP2_SERVER_REFUSED_STREAM, and seem like many got that issue

[glacial knot]

you do your forwarding by hand/ D:

[clear ferry]

I just setup my ipv6 tunnel again

[late gate]

I get nightmares of ipv6

[clear ferry]

gonna play around with metallb and cloudflare + a dedicated ipv6 /64

[late gate]

I actually disabled the whole thing

[clear ferry]

I'm probably gonna do an ipv6 cert soon

I have a three day crash course coming up

[late gate]

btw, since you used sense, is it possible to set custom WAN dns with dynamic IP=