the-water-cooler

[late gate]

I will slowly move away in the future

but alternatives are so dead expensive

[last cedar]

Definately go opnsense, raccoon approved

[late gate]

What if I do this: I remove the UDM Pro, setup one of my old G2 cloudkeys (controls protect, switches and AP), then Install opensense on one of the computers I ordered, dedicate one of the NIC for WAN, then route it through there?

[umbral cliff]

They're also huge
Like comparison of tp link vs unifi. Unifi are so much sleeker and nicer looking on the roof

[late gate]

I dont think the switches are the main issue with unifi though, its the firewall and routing

so if I change that I think it would work pretty well

[umbral cliff]

Yeah the usg was my annoyance
The aps have been perfect
Same with the switch

[late gate]

so it seem like my plan can work then

[young sigil]

Edgerouter X.

[clear ferry]

yuck

[late gate]

I had two of them. They both died, but yeah they are much more configurable

[clear ferry]

great products I hear

just randomly dying

[late gate]

Yeah they use crap storage

[trim hollow]

Omada seems to be where all the buzz is at these days.

[clear ferry]

yes

I would have bought omada if I wanted something in that category

but the tp decos I bought are great for their price

only thing I miss is channel locking

[late gate]

Im so suprised a tech guy like u get a family WiFi system

[clear ferry]

I'm a sensible tech guy

I also have 25 enterprise wifi access points in my garage

[low harness]

… and now it’s Amsterdam. At least there’s EU roaming here…

[clear ferry]

CNN business traveler

If I accept my new job offer maybe I'll travel more, if I get to live where I want to

[late gate]

steria?

[clear ferry]

Yes

Meeting them tomorrow to see what they want to offer

Eeeh

Monday

Weeks go Friday - Monday right?

[late gate]

yeah :p

[trim hollow]

I was close to accepting a job at Sopra Steria a couple of years back.

[late gate]

I got a coding interview on monday. Been to steria before sooooo

I have been though one of the most unserious process this week. I got invited to an interview in a company, both interviews was good, they wanted to hire me, no problems. Then I did the coding test, no problems, and they checked 5 references, no problem there. Then they said, no we decided we are not going to hire anyone anyway. Such a waste of time as reference use

[clear ferry]

Lol

Wtf

[glacial knot]

5 references 😓

[clear ferry]

I have never used references in my life

[late gate]

I never been asked neither, but seem like its a trend now with those online references

at least since most use the same recruiting system they should be able to share the reference replies between them

[clear ferry]

Yeah, i tell the recruiters to piss of, give me 1.5m and 100% home office

[late gate]

hehe, yeah it was easier in Oslo

here the oil industry is kinda bitchy

[glacial knot]

1.5 meters o.0

[late gate]

I will tell my contacts in steria, they are going to make @clear ferry their Unifi certified engineer! :p

[clear ferry]

Yuck

[late gate]

thats what you get!

[clear ferry]

Thankfully noone in their right mind runs Unifi outside of shitkid incel labs 😉

Where fortinet products also should have stayed, what utter rubbish

When you have to reboot switch stacks to get lacp working, you are almost as useless as Cisco aci

[late gate]

hehehe. Before they hiked their prices 200-1000% unifi was great for smaller things, or small business, but now they start to match the others in price.

then the hazzle of need to do cli for any advanced function is not worth it

[clear ferry]

Hassle

Cli

I wish everything had a cli

[late gate]

not when its not persistant, and you have to script it unofficial

I made a bunch of boot scripts that launch on the router boot so I can set NAT rules etc

[clear ferry]

Lol

Wtf

What utter nønsense

[late gate]

yeah

and during update it can all be overwritten

so you better do a scp to a server regulary or rsync

[clear ferry]

Lol

Yet another reason to never work on unifi

Got it

[late gate]

the sad thing is the sub system is absolutely capable of doing everything. The edge series do have much more corporate type scopes in even in the UI.

[late gate]

Is it a good tool for managing sveral ssh / remote terminals with scp and browsing capabilities (over ssh)?

[clear ferry]

vscode ?

Or just file browser

[low harness]

….aaaand Copenhagen. Now three hours on the train.

[glacial knot]

till you are home?

[low harness]

Yep

[clear ferry]

Just like when I was going to @low harness hometown, made no sense to fly there, it was faster for me to drive from home to there

Because it is in the middle of nowhere

[low harness]

Is not!

Look at a map. It’s very clearly in the corner of nowhere. The far corner.

[glacial knot]

isn't that scandinavia in general?

[clear ferry]

Very much sweden

yeah, let's populate 15% of the country with more than 10 people

The rest is forests and single houses

[static schooner]

sounds like a haven for Unibomber shacks

[finite atlas]

sounds like a dream come true for me

[dusky plank]

Its fugly and I love it. And yes, the pidgeons started the fight it wasn‘t me I swear

[forest edge]

I wonder if hubitat sales have risen with the pi availability being as it is

[umbral cliff]

Don't point that up at the sky though, you might hit aircraft

[dusky plank]

it's not going to exceed the roof gable by much, that I make sure of

just mapped all the coordinates

[young sigil]

Shit. I did not know that. Time for another settings backup.

[forest edge]

@umbral cliffyou guys do make awesome camper trailers. https://youtu.be/uAZfmRjkXXU

[stuck python]

Howdy fellas!

Just jumping in here as im about to buy a pci sata controller card. Any redflags on what NOT to buy or what to look out for when buying a card such as this?

[clear ferry]

Buy a lsi sas hba

Use breakout cables

https://www.ebay.com/itm/194584436310?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Yn4wwighT_-&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=rtxjSfSbSCy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=MORE

[stuck python]

Wow i see, you get way more for your buck?!

[clear ferry]

Yes

[late gate]

I have sold the unifi udm pro now. Still keeping it until I can host a new router software though

[clear ferry]

Lol

Anything can run opnsense though

My old dual NIC j1900 routed 650/650 plus a lot of internal stuff

[late gate]

I was thinking to use an avail I3 nuc with 16gb ram and nvme if opensense accepts the usb3 2.5g adapter I have. It should be a relativly known chipset

I don’t know if I need to raise the specs though to run gbit internet

[clear ferry]

If you have managed switches you can just do vlan instead of one flaky nic

Without ids/ips an i3 should be plenty for 1g/1g

Just look at unifi, it runs on a phone chipset

[late gate]

I was thinking to put two nics on it, not the builtin. so one for wan and one for lan, not vlan wan and lan together

its kinda funny though; you have the two pools of people. one say put it on proxmox, other on bare metal. I kinda feel a router should be bare though

[clear ferry]

Always bare metal

Virtualized is fine for labs

Just the fact that they say proxmox should be a red flag

[late gate]

have you tried something like this: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005220893257.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.190fcc90JQCncG&algo_pvid=01cfa19f-4bc4-482e-bf16-f9722603bf37&algo_exp_id=01cfa19f-4bc4-482e-bf16-f9722603bf37-0&pdp_ext_f={"sku_id"%3A"12000032239835415"}&pdp_npi=3%40dis!NOK!2011.91!2011.91!!!!!%40211be3cd16779541521034151d06e6!12000032239835415!sea!NO!0&curPageLogUid=9r2jWcnlmfLG

seem like ok all in one for a router

seem to be similar to this one: https://eu.protectli.com/product/vp2420/

[forest edge]

those work

I have something similiar

that i run opnsense on

[late gate]

is it strong enough to run gigabit+?

[clear ferry]

Yes I have a j1900 AliExpress computer

[forest edge]

sure

[late gate]

can it run ids/ips or what its named

?

[forest edge]

I wouldn't go loading it up with docker containers or anything though

[late gate]

no, just plain firewall/router

[clear ferry]

J1900? With low traffic, maybe, probably not

That box is powerful enough for 5Gbit and ids probably

And more

It's 12th gen

Protectcli is the same box

Just rebranded and upped the price

[late gate]

yeah that is what I assumed

looks so similar

maybe I could run the cluster directly in this, and not have to buy a switch hmmm

even if I got a good price on one

[clear ferry]

Cluster, single device

Great idea for lab

For production, no

[late gate]

for home use I guess that falls under lab

[clear ferry]

No

Home can be both lab or production

[late gate]

true enough

[glacial knot]

production for my home, lab for playing with things 😂

[clear ferry]

Dl380gen9 for production, dl380gen8 for lab

[late gate]

haha

yeah if I was so rich

[clear ferry]

Both were free

[late gate]

of course you spoiled brat

:p

[clear ferry]

That's the life of a consultant

[late gate]

I dont get free stuff. we always get the lecture about corruption

[clear ferry]

If it is going in the trash anyway

[late gate]

In an not to be named PUBLIC company the IT admin took all the servers after we upgraded to VM solutions, and sold dem on finn :p

[clear ferry]

Yikes

Brb tell someone

[finite atlas]

here, you will certainly love that video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23xZ9HeedU0

[late gate]

orgasmicly nice haha jk

ok a serious question; docker say volumes are better, reddit say binds are better. Is it ANY benefits on volumes when binds work?

[clear ferry]

Yuck on so many levels

Binds are easier to handle in regards to backups @late gate

https://i.redd.it/k00iuvxnwsla1.jpg

[late gate]

I agree with that. I keep all my mounts on the nas. I have two volumes. One drive volume with HDDs, and one with NVME for things like database

and binds have kinda always worked

[clear ferry]

Volumes might work with shared node storage and proper mapping

Never used it

Maybe @glacial knot knows

[glacial knot]

for docker or k8s? 🤔

I only ever use -v but setup bind mounts with it for docker

[late gate]

I have not decided yet if I will go for docker swarm or k8s

[glacial knot]

never swarm

[clear ferry]

And not k8s for production at home, unless you are ongy

[glacial knot]

it's half a lab setup^^

I did btw. write a PoC controller to just DNAT loadbalancer services into the cluster

[clear ferry]

Preferably a different namespace for the lab bit at least

Or a different cluster

[late gate]

why never swarm?

[glacial knot]

it's the same cluster. But I mostly do one namespace per logical service

[late gate]

while k8s give the benefit of?

[glacial knot]

Being the de-facto industry standard

Supported natively by every cloud provider
And generally most IaaS

[late gate]

well I am open to learn

thats why I am building this homelab

[clear ferry]

Start with regular docker without swarm for production

Run k8s in lab vms

[late gate]

but in what matter do you think I should utilize the machines as a whole?

[clear ferry]

I'd say two machines, one production and one failover, and you can play with failover

[late gate]

I was planning to setup 4 of them

[clear ferry]

This is like jumping before you can even lay still

[late gate]

Hehe, yeah I am known to do that

A friend of mine abroad got hired to manage k8 without eve knowing k8s for nasdaq haha, so its possible to jump into it :p

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/jump-to-conclusion-think-again-go-wild-moot-no-gif-17140256

[clear ferry]

I learned and certified myself on Kubernetes in less than 2 months

I'm probably not normal though

[glacial knot]

I got thrown at automating k8s knowing nothing about it
Took me a couple weeks to get comfortable but it's not horrible

[late gate]

It does seem like a good thing to at least have learned as I am a consultant

searchable thing on the consultant profile

or it is better to start with k3s or jump into k8 right away?

[glacial knot]

k3s is probably an ok start : thinking
From the description it's k8s with some sane default choices applied

[clear ferry]

No etcd, which is an important concept of k8s

[late gate]

I see

Maybe I also should accept throwing a bit up in my mouth and install proxmox as the base layer so I can revert when I f up a machine

[clear ferry]

Also, automated installer for k3s, no learning experience in deploying and troubleshooting deployment

Or just do kvm, like a sane person

[glacial knot]

Huh? How does it work without etcd o.0
What's the storage for apiserver then?

[clear ferry]

Sqlite

[late gate]

sqlite sucks

[clear ferry]

Exactly

[late gate]

ugh it seems like the only sane thing is to just go for k8s then

to not learn bad behaviour

[clear ferry]

Yes

If you wanted to start out with shitty, just run minikube

[late gate]

Yeah. At least I can say this will be overkill deluxe haha

[clear ferry]

Three kvm VMs with k8s for lab and docker running on bare metal on the same host is overkill?

[late gate]

No, but if I expand that to all 4 machines I bought to host what, some simple apps?

Just tried tabby terminal. actually not too bad to be free

[clear ferry]

You see now why I'm a sensible tech person

I have 8 systems in my garage, I use 2

[late gate]

yeah that is how it is. A bit of my thing is I start to see how much money all those small subscriptions for drives, vms etc cost, and it adds up a bit, plus what do you do the day they hike the price. with gigabit fiberoptics its no reason to not self host

[clear ferry]

I have self hosted since 98 and will probably never not do it

[late gate]

I self hosted a lot when I got SDSL since it was whopping 2/2mbit!

[clear ferry]

I started out on 768 docsis in 98

Never had sdsl, docsis 98, ADSL in 00, FTTH in 04

[late gate]

I had modem, the isdn, cable/coax, adsl, sdsl the coax again, and fiber after that

[clear ferry]

Yeah, i had dial up to bbs since 92, ISDN since 94

[late gate]

kids doesnt know how good they have it nowadays

[clear ferry]

Not if they are American

With their 1200/3 docsis

[late gate]

yeah its just plain stupid

at least I got free of the CNAT

CGNAT I mean

[clear ferry]

Yuck cgnat

[late gate]

Got one of the last static ips

[clear ferry]

Need to check how many ipv4 addresses i get with HomeNet, haven't checked yet

Telenor FTTH was 6 plus a 56 ipv6

Telenor docsis was 8 ipv4

[late gate]

altibox is just one, and 56 ipv6

and soon zero ipv4. already rolled out to most of norway

[clear ferry]

The 10g FTTH is getting reasonably priced

Only 1999NOK per month

[late gate]

I guess the next thing will be 2.5g before 10

[clear ferry]

5 is an option too

1499

Ah 2.5 too

999

I pay 899 for 1

[late gate]

I pay 1400 for 1

altibox hiked their prices

[clear ferry]

Yikes

[finite atlas]

how much bufferbloat does your connections have?
it sucks my ping shoots to >200ms as soon as someone uploads a picture or downloads a update
luckily that is fixable with QoS SQM in OpenWRT

[clear ferry]

I haven't seen ping spikes with load since VDSL

Which i had for two years in my current house

It is mostly related to poor upload Vs high download, and traffic that requires a lot of ack

[umbral cliff]

What year was that

[late gate]

is it any service that gives you multi level subdomain le certificates? cloudflare just give to domain.tld, not sub.domain.tld

[umbral cliff]

Let's encrypt can issue wildcard certs
Use it with traefik

[late gate]

it still seems like it refuse to create use wildcard for two levels

using traefik and set it up as the tutorials

[dusky plank]

I have no trouble with subdomains in CF

sub-sub domains is a different story

[late gate]

I think its cause CF doesnt allow sub-sub to free accounts :/

any alternatives?

[dusky plank]

sub-sub is problematic everywhere somewhat, especially wildcard ones

[late gate]

hmm how fun. I was planning to use a service.local.domain.tld

I can drop the local in worst case though

[finite atlas]

why even use certs?

[late gate]

to not having to get cert warning. its annoying

[finite atlas]

cert warning?

[edgy sun]

Browser telling you cert is invalid

I just started using nginx proxy manager, not bothering with wildcard, it's easy enough to create a specific cert

Just have to give it cloudflare API token to modify DNS records and it gets letsencrypt cert using DNS challenge

Seems like traefik can do the same.

[late gate]

yeah, but cloudflare do not support multi level domains on the free account

[edgy sun]

Yeah I'm not doing sub-subdomain

I just have a whole domain set up just for "local"

Picked a ".win" domain on namecheap, $51.60 for 10 years.

[late gate]

I picked a casa domain cause of the come reference haha

a domain just for home use

[edgy sun]

Nice.

[late gate]

Im trying namecheaps api now as the support claimed they support multi level

[edgy sun]

Argh now I want a .casa name 😂

[late gate]

they are cheap

I think I paid like 3 bucks

[edgy sun]

Yeah

[edgy sun]

I'm now down crazy path of wanting hass.mydomain to go to my local IP if I'm home and nabu casa endpoint if I'm not. Don't wanna open any router ports though so it'll require a cloud service and I'm not gonna bother

[late gate]

I think think I would expose things online at least

[edgy sun]

I can VPN into my home network

And have my phone set up to do it automatically if I'm not on my local wifi

Don't even use the HA cloud for remote access, just for Alexa

(and to support devs, I could get Alexa to work other ways even without open ports)

[umbral cliff]

Just get a wildcard for *.local.domain.tld?

Its what I have

Using traefik with lets encrypt and cloudflare for dns

[late gate]

I had to deactivate proxy then I was allowed

It won’t work with proxy

But an alternative I think is to get the 15 year certificate from cloudflare and just use that

[edgy sun]

totally random... just got a rinnai tankless water heater + recicrulator and I love seeing the recirc (or just hot water) run by the inlet temperature to the heater

[clear ferry]

2009-11

[celest creek]

Does some1 please have an advice how to open these mi temperature and humidity sensors to change battery? Already damaged the plastic a bit by using a Not perfectly fitting coin..

[forest edge]

how are you holding it? you can see where it separates on the outer edge.

https://youtu.be/P0FvZwB99DE

[glacial knot]

use a better fitting coin :/
it's the main annoyance I have with my Aqara devices

[clear ferry]

I clothed my daughter i a shirt that says "Shine" shirt @glacial knot

Curious if Japanese people read it as しね

[umbral cliff]

My aqara ones are attached to the wall, so just twist it off easily

[glacial knot]

hm, that's an actual idea

though I don't think they have mounting holes on the cover 🤔

[umbral cliff]

I used tape lol

[glacial knot]

But the indention for the glue strip is on the cover bit

[last cedar]

Angle grinders are great for opening things, when coins don't work

[clear ferry]

死ね rather maybe @glacial knot

[clear ferry]

What about racoon fingers?

I also mount my aqara sensors with tape, and just twist the sensor to replace the battery every 3 years so far

[glacial knot]

I knew what you meant. And wanted to say that I'd be surprised
But with some of the superstitions around 4 because it's し... not sure D:

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/witness-stevie-wonder-singing-gif-13461764

[last cedar]

We don't have angle grinders for fingers, no

Oh, fingers for opening things

Only for stealing things, like doormats

[forest edge]

@last cedarwanna buy a racoon tail keychain? https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51RvVMn3cwL._AC_UY1000_.jpg

[celest creek]

ok will try to hot glue it to something 🙂

[low harness]

If they are attached to something it's really really easy. If not it's easy if you're lucky and all but impossible otherwise. I usually use my side cutters and just jam the tips right into the plastic and twist. Should be possible to do that a couple of dozen times at least before it's totally ruined.

[last cedar]

|| Why have the keychain when you can have the buttplug? ||

[finite atlas]

turn it into one

[celest creek]

Worked !

[celest creek]

ty for the idea 🙂

[last cedar]

Can buy one

[clear ferry]

https://i.redd.it/tuhpwdu0plx71.jpg

[finite atlas]

partly my ex

[clear ferry]

I just discovered the wonderful world of Yandere

[glacial knot]

Go watch Mirai Nikki

[clear ferry]

Mirai ❤️

[clear ferry]

interesting chart of power price change in different regions of Norway

[tidal bronze]

Wow

This is why you are so up in US business. 🤣

[clear ferry]

With state subsidies I'm still paying the same as the northern people

Until the end of 2024 at least

[low harness]

Since it’s the top post on reddit, let me just preempt Atx and post this myself… (it’s also both funny and true)

[glacial knot]

I want to try that fish at some point

@clear ferry can I open some in your bedroom?

[clear ferry]

Still smells better than my farts probably

[trim hollow]

No you do not. Believe me.

[clear ferry]

My wife begs to differ

[finite atlas]

you guys always give me a good laugh

[clear ferry]

[forest edge]

your mind tends to lean a certain direction you know that? lol

[last cedar]

Towards raccoons? I know

[forest edge]

when you think of racoons you think of buttplugs? wut? lol

[last cedar]

Oh, well

We were talking about tails

Do you not think about || buttplugs || when you think about raccoons? @forest edge

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/squirt-cum-plug-anal-gif-18503785

[late gate]

ops I ordered the I3 version of the router yesterday, not the celeron one. Hopefully it will still work ok. Didnt order with disk and ram as 32gig ram is about 900NOK here

This one: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005193023499.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.4ad650b02tUE3B&algo_pvid=355783a4-a702-4c34-9d59-0db716403398&algo_exp_id=355783a4-a702-4c34-9d59-0db716403398-0&pdp_ext_f={"sku_id"%3A"12000032070309820"}&pdp_npi=3%40dis!NOK!5480.26!3836.22!!!!!%40211bc2a016780471047618487d06f3!12000032070309820!sea!NO!1675286400&curPageLogUid=24U4YgHaiJmu

[prisma briar]

Wow, $370 for that?

Asides from the form factor that seems overpriced.

[glacial knot]

it's 2.5G

[prisma briar]

It's still overpriced

[glacial knot]

for a passive cooled, 6 port 2.5G with normal OS? it'll be hard to find something cheaper

The passive cooling part is quit the limiter :/

[prisma briar]

You could get a 4 port 2.5gb nic for $100 and a used i3 PC for about the same, that'd be more than enough to run pfsense.

After RAM and storage that that computer doesn't even come with for $370 it'd be less than half the price.

So, yea, excluding the unique the form factor it's overpriced.

[glacial knot]

used and with a fast enough pcie, it's not a thin client, so it'll be larger and not passive

[prisma briar]

New is a pointless qualifier when you're buying random junk from AliExpress.

And, yea, I know the case is appealing, which is why I've said Aside from the form factor twice now.

Three times with that statement

[late gate]

@glacial knot Its actually a space for a fan though, but dunno if its needed

[prisma briar]

It probably will be if you keep it under moderately high load.

Or it'll just throttle

[late gate]

For 2.5 its hard to find cheaper unless you do a full computer. for a router I look for small, compact and not too complex

I see the celeron version is about 60-70usd cheaper

[prisma briar]

That is a full computer and it's going to be just as complex as one.

[late gate]

yeah, but then you need to get 6 nic intel network card or 3x2, those cost a bit too for the latest intel chip

[prisma briar]

It's about $100 for a 4 port Intel I225 card

[late gate]

so thats 200 for two right away

[prisma briar]

I could get two of those in a used i3 box and still end up at least $100 cheaper than that solution.

Assuming you're able to get an SSD and RAM for $30 for it

[late gate]

I see your point, and its always alternative ways to do it

I dont need to order SSD and RAM

The alternative was to VM the router, but went away from that idea cause of overhead

[prisma briar]

I've ran pfSense in a VM for years on a box with a single 10Gb link to a 10Gb switch.

[clear ferry]

Yuck

I did run pfsense virtualized for 6 months

I felt sick, had to go back

[last cedar]

I had opn as the only vm on an esxi host... don't know why I didn't just do it bare metal, but there you go

oh yes, I do remember, the ups I have has a VM, and I didn't know about NUT at the time

[prisma briar]

I've seen a lot of people who use pfSense in VMs over on the homelab and vfio discords.

[late gate]

It is, but its not supported at least, and some issues with traffic that people experienced

[last cedar]

I think it makes a lot of sense if you like to tinker in a lab environment, but when the kids are screaming that there is no internet you might regret it

[clear ferry]

Routers should always be dedicated devices

[late gate]

yeah, thats why I go simple on the router too. If the internet is down for 10 seconds I hear it!

[prisma briar]

I have my modem plugged into it's own vlan that is fed to my hypervisor nodes so if I need to take a box down for something I can live-migrate my pfsense instance elsewhere with no drop.

[clear ferry]

WFH two people, two kids who love streaming, yeah I'll keep it on a dedicated device

[last cedar]

You don't want your raw meat eating onlyfans losing content do you?

[clear ferry]

I should just setup carp at some point, ive been considering it for 15 years, just never bothered since internet doesn't go down unless i did something

[last cedar]

oh, forgot that we don't talk about it in publiv

[prisma briar]

I also had redundant pfSense instances set up so one would take over if the other failed, but since I don't keep my other boxes on anymore unless I need to shift load to them I removed one of them

[clear ferry]

In pubic

[prisma briar]

CARP is nice.

[last cedar]

shall I run you a cable from me to act as your failover?

only about 500km

[clear ferry]

Failover to pathetic Swedish broadband? No thanks!

[last cedar]

fine then you elitist snob jävel

[late gate]

I did do a search on the consensis in router in barebone vs vm, and it seems people are split 50/50 on the topic though

[prisma briar]

What I did with my pfSense boxes was set up CARP for the LAN and set up udev rules to toggle the wan on/off when it became primary/secondary for CARP.

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/nee-nää-nej-jag-tror-gif-14510142

[prisma briar]

Since I only have one external IP and for some reason my modem shits itself if it sees traffic on another subnet

[last cedar]

I had absolutely zero issues running my setup for almost 2 years, but it does feel "safer" running on its own box, and for the little power drawer it is well worth it, IMO

[clear ferry]

Oh yeah, murica only one wan ip

[glacial knot]

carp? o.0

[clear ferry]

Ja

[prisma briar]

Common address redundancy protocol

[late gate]

I think those ebay boxes is around 10-11W, not going to break the bank at least

ali I mean

[clear ferry]

I wouldn't care if my box used 100w tbh

[prisma briar]

Assign one IP to two systems, only one of them will respond to requests, mainly ARP, at a time. If a backup node notices it can't reach the primary node/CARP IP anymore it'll assume the primary is down and start responding on that IP.

[last cedar]

you might be surprised, it may even be less, I used my box as dns, dhcp, ntp server, now I am doing adblocking on it too, obviously it isn't very demanding, it is nice when it just works though

[late gate]

I was hoping to run the two edge services I have; adguard and traefik on the router, but those are not super high load

[prisma briar]

pfSense will also let you synchronize things like the state tables so that connections will stay up when it switches between CARP nodes

[glacial knot]

My ISP's router would hate if the mac changed without an IP change

[prisma briar]

I spoofed the same mac on both nodes to avoid that

Since the WAN interface is only up on one node at a time it doesn't matter

[late gate]

I was under the impression I should ditch pfsense for opensense

[prisma briar]

I've heard opnsense can be easier to use but never saw a need to switch away from pfSense.

[prisma briar]

If you don't know what you're doing bare metal is definitely easier/more reliable, but a properly configured VM is going to be basically indistinguishable from a performance and stability standpoint.

[clear ferry]

opnsense isn't run by a bunch of see you next Tuesday's

That is enough motivation to select one of the other

[last cedar]

@late gate adguard is a community plugin, not from the official repo

[late gate]

I dont like they are freebsd though

[last cedar]

But you can just add the blacklists into unbound if you don't need the fancy UI

[glacial knot]

why? Do you feel like netBSD is so much better?

[late gate]

I run nextdns as the outer dns

[prisma briar]

Both pfSense and opnSense are FreeBSD.

[late gate]

I feel freebsd always are behind on the drivers

[last cedar]

They have been yes, but most of the stuff that routers use these days has great support

[prisma briar]

The Intel i225 has BSD drivers

[clear ferry]

Even realtek works fine these days

[glacial knot]

how to pun on realtek and pain? 🤔

[clear ferry]

Realcrap?

[late gate]

realtek has always been a pain

[prisma briar]

You used to have to disable all the hardware checksum offloading on realtek cards

Or you'd get really weird problems on BSD

[clear ferry]

No issues the last 5+ years with realtek and bsd for me

[late gate]

The intel 226 drivers though is a bit less support for

[clear ferry]

Yuck 2.5

[late gate]

better than 1 :p

[umbral cliff]

My fibre NTD won't send anything if the Mac changes, but that's just since it uses Mac address for identification on the network
Either wait 30-60 minutes for it to time out or open the ISP app to force it to refresh

Or Mac address impersonation to also bypass It lol

[glacial knot]

Uff

I can force-cycle my external IP by changing mac

takes less than a minute 😄

[umbral cliff]

I have a static IP so don't need to cycle it

Just that the lease assigned for the firewall attached is per mac for us, so just refresh the lease and job done
Not that I ever really have to do it, nor does it lock me into any ISP provided crap

[glacial knot]

it's static as long as I don't actively cycle it. But I cycle every now and then

[late gate]

I got a static ip before cgnat was activated

[umbral cliff]

When I first got my service they do CGNAT and block port forwarding by default for save of cost for them + security
Takes a single phone call to get both of those fixed, phone call took around 3 minutes including hold time

[prisma briar]

I can too, but I have to power-cycle the modem to get it to update. Before I do that it will only respond to the first mac that contacts it.

I've been spoofing the same MAC for probably a decade now. I moved 3 times within the same city without my IP changing, it didn't change until I moved about 70 miles south to another city.

I can change my MAC and get a new IP, then change it back and get my original IP back too

[glacial knot]

12:34:56:78:90:ab good mac

[late gate]

careful with macs and mcvlan. not always it accepts non "valid" mac addresses

Why have I never tried obsidian instead of joplin? seems so much better, at least with self hosted live sync

[prisma briar]

de:ad:be:ef:ca:fe

[glacial knot]

oh right, I forgot that the first byte in the MAC should have the LSB set to 0

Wait, the LSB is 0 in 0x12 as well

[prisma briar]

There's also things like mac vendor lists that should have the first three octets for more or less every real MAC

[late gate]

Anyone know a method of integrating https://www.vaultproject.io/ or any other secrets project to docker?

[prisma briar]

Integrate in what way?

I'm sure you could run it in docker. Do you want to use it as a docker authorization plugin to control what people can do with docker?

Integrating it with applications within docker would largely be up to the application

[umbral cliff]

I think they mean keeping docker secrets in that

So then the docker-compose or whatever pulls from it

[prisma briar]

Ah, I've never used that mechanism of Docker. Didn't know it had that.

I hardly use docker, I prefer lxc for personal use and docker doesn't really line up with much of what I do at work.

[umbral cliff]

I'm not sure if you can
But given you can initialise docker containers with passwords for some images putting them in a vault is not a bad idea

[prisma briar]

Yea, it could be a good idea for things like private keys for webservers too

[late gate]

I think it kinda support k8s, and I did see a docker plugin that cost a lot, so thats a nogo

docker got a function named secrets that is run inside a swarm on runtime, but that doesnt work on standalone

unless you start a swarm with one host

[late gate]

found another one that looks promising too: https://github.com/mozilla/sops

[forest edge]

lol vw

https://youtu.be/MHVhTU6PVWw

[prisma briar]

lol mfgr trackable cars

I'm ripping that shit out and putting my own transmitter in if I ever get a car that has one.

[forest edge]

you likely already do. cars been trackable since like the early 2000's

if not from the xm, than from some cell option(even if it's off) to it having gps for maps

[prisma briar]

My 2013 Altima doesn't have XM, cell, or gps afaik.

Nissan sold an optional kit for mine to add tracking

I had my own in there for a while but I never replaced the modem when 3G went away.

I also don't have the GPS-enabled infotainment center and my car never had onstar or anything like that.

[forest edge]

I really quick search shows the 2013 was XM ready

[prisma briar]

Only with the upgraded infotainment center

[forest edge]

even if you don't see it, use it.. it's there lol

[prisma briar]

Even if there was some hidden cell transmitter it'd be operating on such an old standard it couldn't actually connect to anything anymore.

[finite atlas]

just drive a bicycle

no need for all that fancy electronics
do you really believe shaping stones into the right shape makes them think?

[prisma briar]

Also having GPS alone doesn't mean it can be tracked, it'd have to have some way to transmit that signal back out, too.

Not that mine has XM or GPS or cell at all.

XM also doesn't transmit out and couldn't be used to track a vehicle. Nor does the standard radio.

[forest edge]

they can track vehicles using XM. there is even a service just for that lol

[prisma briar]

There might be some additional service XM offers, but the satellite radio portion of XM is receive-only.

[forest edge]

it dosen't matter. the guts are there and only needs to be turned on (if not always on already) remotely

[prisma briar]

The guts literally aren't there.

[forest edge]

you said yours dosen't have xm, but xm radios they are lol

[prisma briar]

I have no idea why you think that a normal XM radio can transmit out.

[forest edge]

look it up lol

[prisma briar]

Are you thinking about their new self-driving car crap?

[forest edge]

this isn't some new thing

thats been a part of xm since xm came out

usually falls into the subscription but it's not like it can't just be always on or turned on at any given time remotely anyways

it's the point, that it's there lol

[prisma briar]

Looks like they have an on-star esque thing, that's separate from XM radio itself.

[late gate]

Im thinking to switch from bitwarden to 1password cause of the extensive api and integration services they have. anyone with experience on 1password?

[prisma briar]

I still just use keepass

[umbral cliff]

What's XM

[scenic radish]

We use 1password at work. Seems nice. I don't do anything with the API though

[late gate]

I got interested when I did see they have everything from docker to k8 secrets manager to ssh agent and much more https://developer.1password.com/

bitwarden is kinda lacking in development progress I feel

[forest edge]

https://www.siriusxm.com/

[umbral cliff]

Oh weird

[forest edge]

why is that weird?

[umbral cliff]

Why would you want to pay for radio over a satellite

[forest edge]

few reasons

[umbral cliff]

Like maybe in the early 2000s given you didn't have aux, bluetooth, etc
But nowadays you have many digital radio channels that you can access, you have streaming and your phone

[forest edge]

one is it's not like the traditional radio.. it's more like spotify or whatever those others where you listen to catagories rather than a mix of stuff

each "channel" is a different category etc

[umbral cliff]

So... basically like digital radio

[forest edge]

it's not FM either, so you get that true HD or whatever the equivalent is in music and it's the same no matter where you go even to other countries

people like @tidal bronze would have been all over it

[umbral cliff]

Digital radio (DAB) is not FM, it can be higher quality than FM
Though people have still moved on from radio because your phone is so much more convenient

[glacial knot]

All our radio stations are available on satellite for free
Just need the same sat as for EU TV

[forest edge]

it's still limited by range tho

xm is satellite

[umbral cliff]

DAB is still available in a lot of places, and you don't get the static that FM or AM gives you

Without paying for something extra

Plus again, phones

[forest edge]

yea well xm has been around since the 90's lol

[umbral cliff]

Thats why I said maybe early 2000s make sense, but since then why

[forest edge]

apparently 2001

so not the 90's

[umbral cliff]

Ours are broadcast over the internet
Since we don't have any TV satellites in aus except for pay tv (and I think some for very rural places)

[forest edge]

these days i have no clue. I know my girl still likes to listen to it when they do the free promo things every so often. as I said, it's more like lastfm or spotify or whatever those more popular internet music things are

infact xm may have been the inspiration for those to start lol

[glacial knot]

we have everything. FM/DAB/Sat/Internet/Cable 🤷

[last cedar]

Show off 😄

[forest edge]

lol german's having "cable" in their cars

[prisma briar]

I put a raspberry pi with a 7" touchscreen in my dash when I had my first car, I had a an FM/OTA TV tuner on it. I mostly had it for the FM part but I could watch TV on it while the car was stationary. Lost TV signal if I was in motion though.

Also had a 64GB SSD with a bunch of music and some movies on it

I could tether it to my phone for internet too but I only ever did that a couple times.

I made a custom kodi skin at the time that had giant buttons for everything and a custom build that disabled auto-hide for media playback controls so it was actually pretty decent at music playback.

[tidal bronze]

XM is pretty good, I enjoy it. Great talk and comedy channels. Not a single streaming service offer better curated music playlists like XM. Long drives 💯 XM. No cell coverage issues as well. But HD radio audio quality is tad better.

[forest edge]

isn't XM HD?

i thought it was like the dolby equivalent or whatever

[tidal bronze]

No. FM or AM HD far better for quality. But playlists, nothing compares to XM. Oh and KROQ 😆

[forest edge]

heh just looked it up

it is worse

better than analog but worse than hd

surprised they haven't figured out how to improve it by now

[tidal bronze]

4MHz BW nothing much they can do I think caps at 96k

Same crap on spotify, not as bad but super compressed

Tidal Deezer HD radio would be top tier

Oh and Plexamp

[glacial knot]

just send a high quality 3D scan of a vinyl and have the player do a physics emulation of a turn table

[umbral cliff]

Imagine not having phone service for the majority of a drive on a major highway

[glacial knot]

hey, don't dunk on infrastructurally countries. I'd have to shit on my own a lot then

Though service along the Autobahn is usually fine. It sucks along the train lines =.=

[forest edge]

saw this the other day and halfway through I thought for sure I was gonna see you dry humping it in the video https://youtu.be/u6L4dnXV-Yk

[tidal bronze]

Like in Australia 😆

[umbral cliff]

We have phone service on the main highways

Got 5G when last travelling between melbourne and canberra 😄

[clear ferry]

Even in Norway i can count the places I don't have phone service on one hand, and those places probably have phone service these days

[tidal bronze]

Best cassette players I ever had.

[forest edge]

yea and each of those places are probably 20% of the entire countries land mass

[umbral cliff]

Here I would have to point to a map, since theres a lot of rural aus without coverage, but otherwise most of the places I go have coverage, anything less than 5G is already surprising, less than 4G I never see

[forest edge]

i saw a video on that too.. that's what they said heh

[umbral cliff]

Next year no more 3G at all

[clear ferry]

Yeah, 4g is everywhere, 5g is rolling out fast

[tidal bronze]

3g was shutdown last year. Very happy with 700mb sustained 5g now. Wifi days are coming to an end.

[umbral cliff]

Eh wifi still useful inside buildings, some seem to just kill reception. Wifi calling is great for that

[forest edge]

they say "shutdown" but I don't think that's literal

I still get 3g out at my farm

[umbral cliff]

Are you on the same telco?

[tidal bronze]

Oh it's done in major cities.

[forest edge]

3g still has range over 4g s remote location still rely on it currently

[tidal bronze]

Middle earth

[umbral cliff]

This is whats happening here for the largest telco here

Completely shut down

4G is everywhere, otherwise VoWiFi

[umbral cliff]

4G can use the same bands as 2G or 3G, giving 4G advantages but range of 2/3G

[clear ferry]

3G has been powered down and dismantled for 2 years already

[forest edge]

I think I've read that somewhere but also read that statement is not accurate

all i know is people who decide to live in the boonies between mountain ranges still rely on 3g for any kind of communication outside of long range OTA

[umbral cliff]

Range is based on the frequency not based on the protocol used

[glacial knot]

the modulation plays into SNR tolerance which plays into range

[umbral cliff]

Does it make a huge difference or is that one of those minor changes

[clear ferry]

Analogue TV was dismantled in 2009
FM radio was dismantled in 2018
3G was dismantled in 2021
Copper distribution is currently being dismantled

[glacial knot]

Frequency and Tx-Power are relevant, but FEC, re-transmit strategies, symbol forming, beam forming and a lot of other things that get put into the protocol play a role in how much it can tolerate the outer ranges

[forest edge]

I think ditching copper as in "ripping it out of the ground" is just a bad idea

even if it's not being currently used mainly

[umbral cliff]

Analogue TV was 2010 here
FM still strong alongside AM, useful for emergencies in the middle of nowhere (eg for bushfires)
3G next year onwards

[forest edge]

it's like old telephone lines.. something that just works even in the worst of situations

[umbral cliff]

Except when old telephone lines have nothing connected to them

[forest edge]

not really the point

[glacial knot]

yea, FM is kept around for longer than older digital standards

[umbral cliff]

Like whats happened here, they've been turned into VDSL, they do not function as a telephone line anymore, glorified ethernet cable lol

[clear ferry]

We have two seperate radio frequencies for emergencies that are managed by two different companies , so that services can switch between them if needed @umbral cliff

[glacial knot]

it's just very simple and easy to use for any kind of emergency broadcast, so they just keep the infra running

even though we haven't had any emergency broadcasts since probably the cold war

[umbral cliff]

We get them regularly for bushfires, in localised areas though

Which is not surprising given our countries love to set itself on fire

[tidal bronze]

AM/FM shutting down is a bad idea. Only thing that would function in a real disaster.

[clear ferry]

Burning koalas

[glacial knot]

easy fix. Just don't get bushfires 😂

[umbral cliff]

I also love just randomly tuning into the radio, hearing what music is apparently popular

[tidal bronze]

Yep. Me too

[forest edge]

why i think ripping copper out of the ground is bad idea lol

[glacial knot]

Mainstream radio just gives me a headache 🤷

[clear ferry]

All Norwegian emergency services use this, no need for FM

[tidal bronze]

Like I said streaming playlists sucks bad. Lol

[umbral cliff]

Except, again, when theres no infrastructure to handle it
No different than having to get a fibre modem each end lol

[clear ferry]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Trunked_Radio?wprov=sfla1

We sent all our FM antennas to Africa

[tidal bronze]

All means 3

[forest edge]

it's copper.. it doesn't necessarily have to be used in the traditional manor

[glacial knot]

that sounds like their internal comms, not broadcast to the general populace

[umbral cliff]

You still need stuff either end...

Even if its to send electrical signals

[clear ferry]

No, general populace happens over dab, sms @glacial knot

[forest edge]

rudimentary stuff

[glacial knot]

SMS 😂

At least we should have cell broadcast now

[umbral cliff]

You bash it, but its still reliable for emergencies

[glacial knot]

not at scale

[clear ferry]

Failback to most supported I guess

[umbral cliff]

Works here during bushfires or other major natural disasters
Gets priority on the network

Here we do sms, call, tv, radio, and push notification if you have one of the fire apps or the BOM app

[glacial knot]

The infra around SMS regularly falls apart during christmas and new years here
Because it's not designed to handle spikes

[umbral cliff]

Thats shit infrastructure

Never see that here

[glacial knot]

Though cell broadcast handles that by being actual broadcast

[clear ferry]

We haven't had issues with SMS during holidays for over a decade tbh

[glacial knot]

I haven't tried in a decade now

[clear ferry]

I remember it was a nightmare around nye

[glacial knot]

since the internet based messengers become common

[umbral cliff]

So you say regularly but never actually use it lol

[clear ferry]

I get maybe 2-3 SMS per month, not counting totp for customer vpns

[glacial knot]

Why so many? o.0

[clear ferry]

Because I know old people

[glacial knot]

They know how to use messengers here o.0

[clear ferry]

I don't have Facebook

[glacial knot]

Every time I did try it failed. It just has been a while 😂

[clear ferry]

Very few older people use signal or telegram

[glacial knot]

it also doesn't matter, since there's even less need to be handle a spike of SMS these days

[umbral cliff]

Most of my texts are TOTP codes or just notifications via text
Then a few for work colleagues who I don't want on anything but text
And then my grandma because I am not trying to teach her to use a digital texting platform, hard enough to tell her the difference between imessage and text

[glacial knot]

If everyone did try to use SMS during a major incident, it wouldn't be able to handle it. It's not designed for the maximum theoretical user, but around the actual average use

[clear ferry]

The only system that gets regularly slammed here is the tax system once a year, when everyone wants to see how much they get back in taxes or how much their neighbours earned last year

[forest edge]

lol neighbors check on others tax returns? wtf

[glacial knot]

they should buy some cloud stuff and auto-scale to infinity for that hour

[tidal bronze]

18 people they must be very close

[umbral cliff]

Nah they all rely on ATX's infrastructure, no cloud for them

[glacial knot]

could probably spin up an instance of the site for every resident

@clear ferry do you have more cores thatn people live in your area?

[forest edge]

wtf happens when one finds out their neighbor got more? does it turn into a hatchet fight to the death on the front lawn?

[tidal bronze]

No they Whale slap

[umbral cliff]

Do people actually care a neighbour earns more

I couldn't care less

[tidal bronze]

Nothing else to do there

[forest edge]

gross.. that's orgy talk to someone like atx

[glacial knot]

gotta know if they can actually afford that care or must be drug dealing

[umbral cliff]

Thought you said ongy talk lol

[tidal bronze]

Check other income and worry about kwh charges, that's like going to the beach on Sundays

[glacial knot]

beach? You mean the ice floes?

[clear ferry]

I'm amazed that Americans think we will kill eachother if we knew how much our colleagues earn, yet we just talk freely about it and push eachother to earn more

[umbral cliff]

Bad analogy, sonoma doesn't know what a beach is

[tidal bronze]

I am sorry.

[forest edge]

yea way to kill that whole "viking" image

[glacial knot]

once is enough

[kindred sequoia]

hehe

[clear ferry]

Zwei

[kindred sequoia]

bot got me

[umbral cliff]

Its what we do here too, told one of my colleagues that hes being way underpaid for what they're asking. Hes looking for another job

[glacial knot]

good bot 🤣

[kindred sequoia]

bot has short temper

[clear ferry]

Exactly

[kindred sequoia]

lets try agin

[umbral cliff]

Lets not

Unless you're like 5

[forest edge]

go go gadget Tinkerer?

[kindred sequoia]

wo

bot is realy short temper

[glacial knot]

good bot

[umbral cliff]

Because maybe spamming is a bad idea

[clever mortar]

The bot doesn't like you spamming

[kindred sequoia]

yeah

[clever mortar]

Use an image hosting site

[kindred sequoia]

i am not spamming just

[umbral cliff]

You are spamming

The literal definition

[glacial knot]

you were spamming. Twice

[clever mortar]

Mass posting of images... that's spamming

[kindred sequoia]

checkinng it bruh

[clever mortar]

Mass posting of anything, spamming

[kindred sequoia]

idi ot

[clever mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/mick-duck-discord-mick-banhammer-ban-hammermick-gif-19212826

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-button-keyboard-press-the-ban-button-gif-16387934

[umbral cliff]

@kindred sequoia

Google is your friend

[glacial knot]

https://tenor.com/bWONc.gif

[kindred sequoia]

ok

ok

[glacial knot]

emote only mode!

[umbral cliff]

That you and @clear ferry

[clear ferry]

Me and you doing kubernetes @glacial knot

[kindred sequoia]

🥱

[glacial knot]

The pillow is my keyboard

[tidal bronze]

Hmmm lack of self motivation

[clear ferry]

No need for dog eat dog if dog help dog

[tidal bronze]

As I mentioned before when one day Norway hits top 10 GDPs that might have some merit

[glacial knot]

And most employers use the asymmetry in insight to both company specific and larger industry pay grades to their advantage.
So employees should make sure that they break that asymmetry apart

[forest edge]

can't watch another viking type movie without picturing them "helping" one another behind every closed door

[clear ferry]

Sorry, can't take financial advice from a country that ties healthcare to employment, or fights unions

[umbral cliff]

Just work jobs where the wages are published for everyone to see, so theres no hidden stuff

[tidal bronze]

Then take it from India, Canada or South Korea. Perhaps learn a thing or two.

Get into the top 10 or else it's just lip service

[glacial knot]

hm, now I do wonder. Are the k8s cronjob schedules in UTC 🤔

I'll see whether the job runs in an hour I guess

[clear ferry]

I would guess, no

not sure though

unless your local clock is UTC

[glacial knot]

hmm, no. Should be in local https://kubernetes.io/docs/concepts/workloads/controllers/cron-jobs/#time-zones

$ kubectl get -n event-aggregator cronjob ; date
NAME          SCHEDULE    SUSPEND   ACTIVE   LAST SCHEDULE   AGE
bkb-scraper   0 9 * * *   False     0        <none>          17h
Mon Mar  6 09:03:06 AM CET 2023```

[clear ferry]

sensible

[glacial knot]

hm. I set it to 10 * * * * for a moment, and that scheduled.
Back to 0 9 * * * and let's see if it does stuff later

I'll probably just set it to @daily later either way. Since I saw that's a thing just now

[clear ferry]

@reboot

[glacial knot]

Not part of the spec for CronJob
K8s kinda doesn't include node or cluster management tasks

[clear ferry]

I am so shite at cronjobs that I always have to lookup the pattern 😄

[glacial knot]

Just use .timer units

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/FK3M.gif

[glacial knot]

hm, the control plane node is on Europe/Berlin, the node that it would schedule the task on is in UTC
I wonder if that confuses the scheduler. Or rather, it goes by timezone of the node it schedules on, not the TZ the scheduler runs in

[clear ferry]

that would be.. not great I guess

it should translate

but sounds like outside of best practice

[glacial knot]

yea, I should probably pull that machine onto a good state

[glacial knot]

it did schedule btw .So it's some interesting behaviour with different timezones between nodes in a cluster

[clear ferry]

so, probably not best practice 😄

[umbral cliff]

Just change everything to ADST

[glacial knot]

is that something like ADHD?

[clear ferry]

ADHD TV

Now also in AD4K

[lavish swan]

This made me laugh more than it should.

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/bjzYu.gif

good thing I didn't bring up ADHD Ready

which is easily obtained by adding a lot of caffeine to kids

[keen bridge]

Where did Michelle go? https://koalajewelsbrand.com/collections/rings-collection/products/adjustable-raccoon-ring-in-925-sterling-silver

[clear ferry]

Where have you been? I was starting to take you for dead @keen bridge

[keen bridge]

I was ill, travelling, ill again, and then doing all the things I should have been doing while I was ill/travelling 🤪

[clear ferry]

That's what you get for trying to have health!

https://tenor.com/view/meowth-sick-cold-pokemon-fever-tired-gif-24026472

[glacial knot]

spent half of last week puking

[glacial knot]

if it didn't look quite so low quality I'd want one D:

[keen bridge]

Yeah, I think the lines are supposed to be artistic

[finite atlas]

this is so lovely

[keen bridge]

I love the dragon they also have https://koalajewelsbrand.com/collections/rings-collection/products/anillo-ajustable-dragon-en-plata-y-esmalte-pintado-a-mano

Pocket dragon!

[glacial knot]

I don't mind that they aren't straight lines, but the silver next to them looks scratched and they generally look like they got painted on instead of some semi precious stones or something fun

[late gate]

I canceled the process with Sopra Steria @clear ferry

[clear ferry]

I just completed

[late gate]

so ur part of the cult now? :p

[clear ferry]

No

[glacial knot]

so what did that weirdo VP offer?

[clear ferry]

A lot

[glacial knot]

what did your manager say? 😂

or is that Wednesday?

[clear ferry]

That is Wednesday

She might start crying

We'll see

[glacial knot]

don't bully her

[clear ferry]

I don't, I just lay out facts

[umbral cliff]

She wants you to stay that much?

[late gate]

I just could not bear myself to work in Steria again haha :p

worst experience in my life

[glacial knot]

just don' work a bottom feeder position expanding brain meme

[clear ferry]

Principal architect/ consultant or gtfo

[glacial knot]

not even dev. Git gud

do you even git? 🤔

[clear ferry]

Yaas queen

Devopsec, get paid one salary for three jobs

[glacial knot]

some of those are paid 3 salaries for single job time investments

[clear ferry]

I'm already doing that tbh

[glacial knot]

Huh, Wifi6E is pretty expensive

the wifi cards are pretty cheap, but access points break bank o.0

[mellow parcel]

yeah

and cant use half the cheapo cards in ap mode

[glacial knot]

Well, at least not by default

Or with the Intel AC ones I got, I can't use it with more than one network at a time

[mellow parcel]

i eventuaaly just got the rt3200 and reflashed it to get 160mhz 2x2

[distant mesa]

Messing about with ideas for automation at the moment, and said "Alexa, run me a bath". Alexa responds with a fart sound. WTF is that about?

[mellow parcel]

she be trolling ya

[glacial knot]

someone at amazon trying to be funny

[mellow parcel]

https://thomasdambo.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Photo-by-Hannah-Rhodes-6-610x1084.jpg

[finite atlas]

cheapest one is 180€

[clear ferry]

Hohoho

This could get fun if the US introduces bill to ban foreign tech

The ultimate protectionism

[glacial knot]

I hope they ban everything based on a von Neumann architecture

[mellow parcel]

best have your stuff ordered sooner then later

[static schooner]

I feel like this is some sort of a ploy where thieves attract a bird to cover a camera while they carry out their misdeeds:

[last cedar]

The E is actually short for Expensive

[last cedar]

Probably a raccoon that is bribing the birds with bread, but that is only a theory

[prisma briar]

Especially once you consider the increased AP density needed to carry a good 6E signal throughout a house/business

6GHz doesn't carry too well though walls.

[static schooner]

I haven't come up with a good reason to use it at home

[prisma briar]

I upgraded to wifi 6 because people I live with got gaming PCs and I don't want to run more wires

[static schooner]

Unless your 5GHz band is completely full

[prisma briar]

But 6E seemed like a pointless expense

[static schooner]

No perf benefit

[prisma briar]

iirc 6E can hit something like 5Gbps in perfectly optimal situations vs like 1400Mbps for 6

[static schooner]

Pretty sure it's the same encoding and PHY layers

[prisma briar]

But, like, I didn't even buy full antenna count 6 routers, I only got half count ones that cap out around 700Mbps.

[static schooner]

You can use 160MHz without using DFS channels, I guess

[prisma briar]

I had to play with my 5GHz channels to find ones that worked reliably. I live next to a military base and my APs kept turning off 5GHz because they detected radar.

[static schooner]

Me too

[finite atlas]

what do you need 700mbps wifi for?

[prisma briar]

Steam downloads?

[static schooner]

DFS doesn't work well here

[finite atlas]

ever heard of a ethernet cable?

or Dlan?

[prisma briar]

Wifi works fine.

If they want their PCs wired they can go buy the wires and run them.

[finite atlas]

expensive as hell tho for super high bandwith stuff

[prisma briar]

I spent like $220 for two APs.

[finite atlas]

yup

you'd spend maybe 20 for a ethernet cable and get more speed

[prisma briar]

You gonna go crawl around in my crawlspace to run a cable for me?

'cause it's only about 2' tall in a lot of spaces

[finite atlas]

cover my expenses to get to you and 100 on top and i'll do it

2 what?

[prisma briar]

2 feet.

24 inches

[finite atlas]

enough for a stick

[prisma briar]

Right, I'd rather not deal with that nonsense.

I needed new APs anyways, one of my old ones had started periodically crashing and the only good one I had left wouldn't reach everything.

[finite atlas]

yuck wifi

always gives my shivers if anything of importance is connected to it

[umbral cliff]

Wifi is fine, your gaming desktop isn’t important tbh

[prisma briar]

^

It's also not even my gaming pc, it's someone else's. Mine's on a wired 2.5Gb link.

I think the only thing I'd consider important I have on wifi is a bunch of WiZ bulbs, but I've also got wall switches that can be used for those if the wifi isn't working.

Those WiZ wifi bulbs have been wildly more reliable for me than Zigbee Hue bulbs have been.

I also use my work laptop over wifi too, but I can wire in if I need to. I only get 100Mb/s or so off of my work VPN anyways so it doesn't really matter. My work laptop regularly stays connected to my work VPN for a week or more on wifi.

ngl, when I hear people badmouth wifi to the point they claim they'd never run anything over it I wonder if they've ever used a decent wifi setup, or basically any wifi setup installed in the last decade.

[static schooner]

It's cat pic Monday, right?

[static schooner]

I get practically the same throughput over my 80MHz WiFi6 APs as I do over my GigE connection. Latency is just a bit higher

[finite atlas]

I have a decent setup. 4 AP's covering the whole property across the attic, all 3 floors, the basement and the garden. >50mbit/s everywhere even with 802.11r, WPA3, WiFi 5. For the low low cost of 140€ for everything.
Yet i still run each device that i can over Ethernet.

[late gate]

I run about 600mb/s across the house but prefer cable

[mellow parcel]

if it was 160mhz; you could do better then gige speeds...

[static schooner]

APs don't support that, GigE interface only

[umbral cliff]

What about wifi client to wifi client

[static schooner]

I never do that. Only Wi-Fi to server

Even then, they're wired to GigE. I don't think they'll route to each OTA

[mellow parcel]

just do bonded ethernet to feed it via your server

a few devices do it with 10gbe

[static schooner]

#the-water-cooler message

[mellow parcel]

whats this then https://www.qnap.com/en-us/product/qhora-301w

[static schooner]

Not my AP

I'm not saying it's not possible. I am saying that it's not possible with my equipment

[mellow parcel]

couldn't tell by what you said though...

[umbral cliff]

I could understand what Rob was saying

[clear ferry]

I get around 750 on my $100 set of three wifi6 aps

[dusky plank]

y'all upgrading while I downgraded to 200/200

[clear ferry]

Should I order 10g\10g you say @dusky plank ?

https://thehackernews.com/2023/03/lastpass-hack-engineers-failure-to.html?m=1

[glacial knot]

🦆ing Plex

[clear ferry]

that is fucking hilarious

1. Work in software
2. Run plex on windows
3. Never update plex
4. ????
5. PROFIT

[glacial knot]

run Windows
already found a big L

[clear ferry]

[clear ferry]

Listening to the German EMEA leader talk now on teams

every fourth word is

JA

JA

[glacial knot]

mhh, great presentation skills are clearly leader qualities 😂

[clear ferry]

I should become a leader you say ?

JA

[glacial knot]

no. You bully your manager

[clear ferry]

😦

[umbral cliff]

Not just never update, but ensure its a 3 year old version 😄

[clear ferry]

JA

[glacial knot]

let me guess, because that was a version where they didn't have to pay for some feature?

[umbral cliff]

Don't think so, plex hasn't really moved features to paywall

[turbid stirrup]

Also... Working on home computer? Heck no

[turbid stirrup]

A day late, but here's my CAT pic

[clear ferry]

Better get a CAT scan

[umbral cliff]

I can wfh using my personal computers, but is through a citrix session 😄

So not actually on my own pcs, just a gateway

[glacial knot]

didn't you say you have to go into the office to use clients' pcs way too often to properly wfh?

[clear ferry]

Like the capitalist swine I am

I used my corporate health insurance now

[umbral cliff]

Yeah because our role requires on site
But I've managed to get a lot of wfh recently, systems have been down 😄

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/2qGp.gif

[warped pike]

Hello.

[glacial knot]

Oi

[clear ferry]

nani

[glacial knot]

=.= stupid light fixture doesn't want to work with smartifying in any way

I'll actually have to get another ceiling light :/

[orchid rose]

bolt an esp on it

[last cedar]

Which part of the esp do you put the bolt through?

[orchid rose]

trial and error to find out the best spot

[last cedar]

Sounds good @orchid rose

Looks like I am moving to Japan then...

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/11kndxw/til_japan_has_become_infested_with_north_american/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[finite atlas]

can i get your old house, after you installed the solar panels?

[static schooner]

I heard that Japan was already played out from the raccoon community. Might as well pass and start your own hip raccoon community somewhere else

[last cedar]

@finite atlas we can discuss hehe

[finite atlas]

:D

[late gate]

Is it any low cost kvm/video and keyboard over ip to a software? Except a server ilo of course

[low harness]

If you already have a raspberry you could build a pikvm? The other parts are cheap.

[late gate]

I just sold my pi4 just have 3bs left

[forest edge]

gross.. why would sell that

[late gate]

Cause I got a lot of money for them

I bought thenm before the price hike

[orchid rose]

Ban, scalper 🤨

[finite atlas]

i sold my pi 3b+ at a profit aswell
it just collected dust at my home and with the ongoing shortage, someone else might use it more

[forest edge]

the only pi's i am not using now are the two zero w's i have and that's only because I haven't dived into finding a long term use for them yet

even my pi 1 b is in use making a printer a network printer

[tidal bronze]

Gotta dump the dust collectors as well. Are they still selling for more than retail?

[finite atlas]

yup

[forest edge]

send them to me. any pi4's or nuc's i'll take

[forest edge]

@last cedar saw the first racoon of the year in my backyard a minute ago.

[last cedar]

Give it a big hug from me

[forest edge]

shoot it you say?

sounds a bit cruel.. but ok..

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-aaaaaa-gif-20638663

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/groundhog-scream-eee-gif-14516535

[low harness]

I need a new phone for work and can pick Iphone 12 or Iphone SE gen3. Anyone know how they compare?

[forest edge]

The iphone SE would likely be easier on the wrist during the chucking motion as you fling it toward the nearest dumpster due to it's smaller size and weight.

[clear ferry]

only last gen ? tsk

[umbral cliff]

More than last gen. Current latest is the iPhone 14 lol

[clear ferry]

orly

shows how much I care about apple I guess

😄

[glacial knot]

.s/apple/phones/

[clear ferry]

Hey, I keep up with the cool boys

like Huawei and Oneplus

[late gate]

U have a doro just admit it

[clear ferry]

I have one in my house yes

but it was a gift from my FIL to my daughter

[warped pike]

I have a oneplus.

[clear ferry]

I love my OnePlus 8 Pro

[warped pike]

I love my OnePlus 9 Pro.

[finite atlas]

I love my fries

[harsh heath]

I don't like my new zigbee plugs

[glacial knot]

Why not?

[harsh heath]

They report consumption only every 5 minutes

They make that loud "electronics sound"

They have a sticker inside them (possible fire hazard?)

^ because they are re-branded Tuya stuff, I didn't notice

[clear ferry]

No issues with my orange Tuya ZigBee plugs

[glacial knot]

not sure what you mean by electronics sound o.0
If it's coil whine I'd return them. If it's the relays making a good clonk when activating, I love it

[harsh heath]

I bought these prolly the same stuff: NOUS A1Z

[clear ferry]

Doesn't sound familiar

[harsh heath]

No, constant coil whine. Everybody loves them on amazon apparently (HA guys), only few people complain about the noise

[last cedar]

Easy on the wrist as the battery lasts 7 seconds and the screen is so small it has negative mass

[harsh heath]

Yup same stuff. Hang on

[harsh heath]

Yours also have sticker in them, any smell or anything yet?

[clear ferry]

No

It's connected to my tumble dryer

[harsh heath]

So draws good amount then

[clear ferry]

And i have one connected to my media setup in the living room

[harsh heath]

How often do they announce the consumption?

[clear ferry]

Tumble dryer does 4-600w, media stuff does 2-300w

1-2s afaik

[harsh heath]

Do you know their firmware version?

[clear ferry]

Whatever the latest in zigbee2mqtt

I've updated them twice

[low harness]

I got a bunch of those. Great for the price.

[harsh heath]

which one do you think they are? https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/supported-devices/#s=TS011F_plug&v=TuYa

[low harness]

One out of 5 I bought was DOA, but 🤷

[clear ferry]

I have 6 new in box still

[low harness]

The announcement is settable, both in time and in difference.

[harsh heath]

What was the issue may I ask? Plain dead?

[low harness]

I think it's set to announce changes over 100 W by default, but I set mine to 1 W instead and that works great.

Doesn't stay on. I think the relay is broken somehow.

[clear ferry]

Re lay lady lay

[low harness]

I failed to open it without power tools, so I don't know for sure.

[harsh heath]

this is on z2m. Maybe you have seen it