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clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:44 AM

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only 2600 NOK from thomann

last cedar Jan 30, 2023, 11:44 AM

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I need to stop being a shitter and play her

glacial knot Jan 30, 2023, 11:44 AM

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Oh, you get fish delivered?

last cedar Jan 30, 2023, 11:44 AM

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glacial knot Oh, you get fish delivered?

3/4 grown purple fish, didn't you read the next comment?

glacial knot Jan 30, 2023, 11:45 AM

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last cedar 3/4 grown purple fish, didn't you read the next comment?

Only after making the stupid joke

last cedar Jan 30, 2023, 11:45 AM

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Haha, I do that so often

glacial knot Jan 30, 2023, 11:45 AM

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Also, I don't know if atx orders his fish from Fukushima 🤷

last cedar Jan 30, 2023, 11:45 AM

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Make a witty comment and then like... bugger, someone already said it

last cedar Jan 30, 2023, 11:45 AM

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glacial knot Also, I don't know if atx orders his fish from Fukushima 🤷

What is wrong with the fish from Fukushima?

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https://tenor.com/view/salmon-fish-green-swimming-gif-3461468

Tenor

Salmon swimming upstream around the boat locks in Ballard, WA.

▶ Play video

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:59 AM

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フクシマ

glacial knot Jan 30, 2023, 12:05 PM

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福島 actually

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 12:05 PM

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my kanji sucks

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bear with me

glacial knot Jan 30, 2023, 12:05 PM

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saw it on a map earlier, because I'm planning a trip to Japan 🙂

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 12:06 PM

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Sodesuka

glacial knot Jan 30, 2023, 12:06 PM

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はい。

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 12:07 PM

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Fun fact

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Hai is the norwegian word for shark, but it is probably in german too

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just the pathetic english say shark

glacial knot Jan 30, 2023, 12:07 PM

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jup

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シャーク 😂

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 12:07 PM

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then again, sjark (norwegian) is phonetically the same as shark, but means a fishingboat

glacial knot Jan 30, 2023, 12:07 PM

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I, knew this. Clearly https://jisho.org/search/shark

Japanese dictionary search for "shark"

271 words, 3 kanji and 3 sentences found. See the full details ...

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 12:08 PM

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damn japanese and their loan words

glacial knot Jan 30, 2023, 12:08 PM

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phew, https://jisho.org/search/シャーク it's known to edict at least 😄

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 12:08 PM

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https://open.spotify.com/track/5392GpKmAP3UvIAfHC8LAW?si=8fca663afdaf4cb9

Spotify

Haifisch

Rammstein · Song · 2009

last cedar Jan 30, 2023, 12:18 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/OPNsenseFirewall/comments/10ovidi/nut_not_working_after_upgrade_to_231/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=13&utm_content=share_button

r/OPNsenseFirewall - NUT - Not working after upgrade to 23.1

6 votes and 2 comments so far on Reddit

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@clear ferry :/

glacial knot Jan 30, 2023, 12:19 PM

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network what translation?

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 12:31 PM

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Urine bladder

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 1:03 PM

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I do all my NUT on lunix you see Michél

forest edge Jan 30, 2023, 1:30 PM

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@tidal bronzedid you pay for FKB?

glacial knot Jan 30, 2023, 1:31 PM

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so how much pain is it going to be to build a project with https://sc02.alicdn.com/kf/Hde1e9aeeeb7f41eb8cec4160fa2a5361P.jpg_350x350.jpg

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 1:31 PM

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Yes

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If you have room, they have boards to make it a bit easier

dusky plank Jan 30, 2023, 1:32 PM

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yes^2

glacial knot Jan 30, 2023, 1:32 PM

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night zodiac Yes

I've already done a PCB with a surface mount USB-C socket. Though power only variant, which has less pins to worry about
It's not that hard with the ones I got. But I think this edge stuff is pretty cool

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I might just use the router at work to cut a paper stencil and apply the paste that way tbh.
I'll just have to check what kind of material could work as stencil. Paper might not like being cut this thin for a stencil

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 1:34 PM

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If you have access to a laser cutter, I used to make stencils nonstop with one

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Can spit it out in like 10 seconds

glacial knot Jan 30, 2023, 1:34 PM

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once they offer the training and unlock my badge, I'd have access to one...

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we have one in the office

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 1:34 PM

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Training?

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Jk, lol

glacial knot Jan 30, 2023, 1:35 PM

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compliance thing. So they can say I was the idiot if I damage something (or someone)

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 1:35 PM

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I used CorelDRAW. I love that program.

glacial knot Jan 30, 2023, 1:36 PM

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I'm pretty sure that kicad spits out a stencil gerber

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 1:36 PM

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Yeah, this was a print shop and a bit different focused

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And long ago

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 1:42 PM

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I made this for you @last cedar

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atxbyea_racoon_installing_alarm_system_8e147f5f-9bb8-4ea9-b778-addf3e842ac4.png

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I saw a project doing usbc board yesterday on youtube @glacial knot

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currently watching a lot of pcb design videos

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let me see if I can find the video

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxU_Kw2de08

YouTube

Phil’s Lab

ESP32 + PCB Antenna Hardware Design Tutorial - Phil's Lab #90

How to design custom hardware using ESP32 MCUs (ESP32-C3, NOT pre-made modules!) and PCB antennas (inverted F, in this case). PCBs by PCBWay https://www.pcbway.com

Showing examples and real, working hardware (WiFi scan test), a full schematic walkthrough, and a PCB design walkthrough. Final test using Arduino IDE & ESP32 expansion.

Many more E...

▶ Play video

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This one

dusky plank Jan 30, 2023, 1:47 PM

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give me such little thing in opnsense please

Bildschirmfoto_2023-01-30_um_14.46.00.png

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its so comfortable in graylog to make notes when you change stuff, grafana has a similar thing with saving

tidal bronze Jan 30, 2023, 1:48 PM

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forest edge <@331255319365812224>did you pay for FKB?

Yes

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 1:48 PM

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nice @dusky plank

dusky plank Jan 30, 2023, 1:49 PM

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nice @clear ferry

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 1:49 PM

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n 🧊

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as @scenic radish would say

forest edge Jan 30, 2023, 1:51 PM

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tidal bronze Yes

so you use the kiosk mode to force it to start on reboot?

tidal bronze Jan 30, 2023, 1:52 PM

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Hmm no, FKB is mapped as home app

forest edge Jan 30, 2023, 1:52 PM

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yea thats the kiosk mode lol

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thats comes with the PLUS stuff

tidal bronze Jan 30, 2023, 1:52 PM

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Nopes

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Overlay is hardware disabled on this.

glacial knot Jan 30, 2023, 1:53 PM

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clear ferry I saw a project doing usbc board yesterday on youtube <@232859383086710789>

Uhh, if the antenna is easy-ish, I'll probably do something without the carrier boards

forest edge Jan 30, 2023, 1:53 PM

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FKB dosen't give me an option for home app, only browser

tidal bronze Jan 30, 2023, 1:54 PM

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I used a home mapping app from F droid, don't remember the name. Anything would work that's not using Overlay.

forest edge Jan 30, 2023, 1:54 PM

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ah

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got a link?

tidal bronze Jan 30, 2023, 1:56 PM

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Don't have it handy. Let me look up.

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BTW you don't need plus to make it home since overlay doesn't work. But good to send the remote commands and call camera dashboards

forest edge Jan 30, 2023, 1:57 PM

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was it called twisted home manager?

tidal bronze Jan 30, 2023, 1:58 PM

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No

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Target home launcher

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Make sure you map last launcher as an app to vol button before you run that. 😆

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 2:02 PM

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A home mapping app? 👀
What kind of mapping does it do?

forest edge Jan 30, 2023, 2:03 PM

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tidal bronze Make sure you map last launcher as an app to vol button before you run that. 😆

funny you say that. i was in the app looking at it and was like uh before you typed that. even backing out without selecting anything made that target home launcher the default launcher lol

tidal bronze Jan 30, 2023, 2:04 PM

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Up and left in screen reader to go back

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 2:05 PM

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hello all

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** ties snacks around neck **

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hello

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geesh I'm that ugly?

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runs away

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 2:07 PM

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https://tenor.com/bm3uT.gif

Tenor

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 2:08 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-25872920

Tenor

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 2:09 PM

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It would appear we have anime fans in here...

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 2:09 PM

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WeebsIn

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 2:09 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/impossibru-impossible-gif-15724984

Tenor

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 2:10 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/kobayashi-drinking-tea-coffee-miss-gif-22493407

Tenor

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 2:10 PM

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to be fair I haven't watched most of the new stuff just because I don't know what to watch anymore

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are old

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 2:10 PM

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Me and the wife are currently watching Attack On Titan

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 2:11 PM

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I didn't really enjoy those

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they were 'meh'

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 2:11 PM

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I don't recommend that one unless you really like it.

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 2:11 PM

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I find it quite good, gives me FMA feels

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 2:12 PM

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yeah it's not that I disliked it, just couldn't be bothered to finish it

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whereas I normally binge everything

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 2:12 PM

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It's the type that if you don't like the first few arcs, it ain't worth finishing.

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 2:12 PM

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Reminds me, new season of Bleach

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should get on that at some point

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 2:12 PM

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exactly

forest edge Jan 30, 2023, 2:13 PM

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@tidal bronzenice works like a charm. thanks

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 2:13 PM

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my brother just got done downloading the last of bleach

forest edge Jan 30, 2023, 2:13 PM

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just wish this whole process wasn't so janky lol

tidal bronze Jan 30, 2023, 2:14 PM

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I think for $20, not janky at all.

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 2:14 PM

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Recent anime I really liked was "bocchi, Ji, rokku".

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 2:14 PM

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Heard of neither of those, need to check out

forest edge Jan 30, 2023, 2:14 PM

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tidal bronze I think for $20, not janky at all.

you can get the nest hub on sale for pretty close that allows rtsp streams..

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max hub or whatever the one with the screen is

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 2:14 PM

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I watched one episode of Skeleton Knight in another world

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that was quite fun, but I've only seen one so far

tidal bronze Jan 30, 2023, 2:15 PM

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forest edge you can get the nest hub on sale for pretty close that allows rtsp streams..

This does cameras faster than the Google displays I have.

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 2:15 PM

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I did love Beserk

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 2:15 PM

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clear ferry I watched one episode of Skeleton Knight in another world

I did a whole season of that. Character development... exists.

forest edge Jan 30, 2023, 2:15 PM

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tidal bronze This does cameras faster than the Google displays I have.

nice. not got that far yet. looking at a basic temp sensor card atm lol

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 2:16 PM

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Berserk is great fun, might be a proper anime at one point now that it is hyped up after authors death

tidal bronze Jan 30, 2023, 2:16 PM

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RTC card works wonders.

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 2:16 PM

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the original 90s anime is ok

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but too short, and leaves out a lot of stuff

forest edge Jan 30, 2023, 2:16 PM

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for awhile i thought the dimmer function was not working right

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 2:16 PM

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I want Goblin Slayer season 2 though

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 2:17 PM

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clear ferry Berserk is great fun, might be a proper anime at one point now that it is hyped ...

that came out while I was in high school

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 2:17 PM

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forest edge for awhile i thought the dimmer function was not working right

Was it just slow? An issue with the lamp?

tidal bronze Jan 30, 2023, 2:17 PM

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Dimmer responds too fast. Vol not linear 1 to 5. $20 shortcomings. Lol.

forest edge Jan 30, 2023, 2:19 PM

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kind delta Was it just slow? An issue with the lamp?

no i think it just had to do with my dungeon lighting setting in this particular room

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 2:19 PM

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Dungeon? 😼

tidal bronze Jan 30, 2023, 2:19 PM

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Lol. Gong to lose wifi in a bit and off to work. Have fun with the clock.

forest edge Jan 30, 2023, 2:20 PM

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tidal bronze Lol. Gong to lose wifi in a bit and off to work. Have fun with the clock.

yup, i'll let you know when i smell the magic smoke

glacial knot Jan 30, 2023, 2:21 PM

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clear ferry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxU_Kw2de08

hmm, I really need to approach PCB design in more principle at some point...

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 2:23 PM

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forest edge no i think it just had to do with my dungeon lighting setting in this particular...

So an automation messing up manual control?

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 2:23 PM

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I've done a lot of PCB design 15-20 years ago

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now I just do it for fun

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 2:26 PM

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clear ferry I've done a lot of PCB design 15-20 years ago

I've done only a little, all of it last year. It's much better than a cable rat nest, but...
It gets really frustrating when you realise one of the footprints had multiple 0.25mm misalignments. Once the boards have arrived from fab.

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 2:26 PM

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the tech is so much better these days

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I've played around with eaglepcb \ kicad and easyeda

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in the past I've only used ORCAD

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 2:28 PM

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Kicad is really good these days, I can go through the whole process without giving up now. But still the only component footprint that wasn't misaligned in some way was the one I did not make myself.

glacial knot Jan 30, 2023, 2:29 PM

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sounds like the issue is you making the symbol footprints? o.0

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 2:29 PM

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the cool thing with easyeda is the integration with pcb manufacturers, so you can use parts directly and have it fully assembled

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 2:30 PM

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glacial knot sounds like the issue is you making the symbol footprints? o.0

The issue is me measuring the components improperly.

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Using a ruler that only has down to integer millimetres.

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It wasn't bad enough to need to correct and ask for a new batch, but it was bad enough to make assembly a bit cumbersome.

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A fair bit.

glacial knot Jan 30, 2023, 2:35 PM

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nothing that can't be fixed with slightly more tin 😉

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unless your components have very close pads

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 2:37 PM

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https://tenor.com/SlI3.gif

Tenor

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 3:08 PM

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glacial knot nothing that can't be fixed with slightly more tin 😉

Actually I had to do lead bending because of one particular level shifter module ending up too high without bending.

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Was getting on the way to the micro USB port of the D1 Mini.

glacial knot Jan 30, 2023, 3:09 PM

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that sounds like fun

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 3:16 PM

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Just made one thing take ten or twenty times the normal time to solder.

young sigil Jan 30, 2023, 3:30 PM

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kind delta The issue is me measuring the components improperly.

Get yourself a good pair of callipers. No PCB designer should be without one.

glacial knot Jan 30, 2023, 3:40 PM

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I need to get some nicer (and potentially digital) ones as well...

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 3:49 PM

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young sigil Get yourself a good pair of callipers. No PCB designer should be without one.

I think the hackerspace I'm a member of has some. But I was at home and in a hurry... I don't remember if they're a good pair, I'll have to check.

last cedar Jan 30, 2023, 4:09 PM

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clear ferry

I love it, thank you so much ❤️

last cedar Jan 30, 2023, 4:11 PM

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clear ferry currently watching a lot of pcb design videos

Another interest, or purely academic?

cinder cove Jan 30, 2023, 4:12 PM

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last cedar Jan 30, 2023, 4:22 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/trashpandas/comments/10oxx93/the_doctor_is_in/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=13&utm_content=share_button

r/trashpandas - The doctor is in

452 votes and 3 comments so far on Reddit

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I am here until 17:30, my time

forest edge Jan 30, 2023, 4:24 PM

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i smell a medical malpractice suit.

static schooner Jan 30, 2023, 4:27 PM

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You never know what species of 'doctor' is behind those 'get viagra online' schemes

last cedar Jan 30, 2023, 4:39 PM

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Psyciatric, not errectile disfunction... jeez

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 5:05 PM

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So my server has been limited to a hard 250mbps because of my conventional PCI network card. I imagine getting a PCIe card might help with Plex, but I doubt I'll see any difference with home assistant, yeah?

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Also, what are the chances of a $5 Q6600 on AliExpress being legit?

shrewd veldt Jan 30, 2023, 5:08 PM

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Why would you want a 16 year old, 105W TDP processor? 🤔

static schooner Jan 30, 2023, 5:09 PM

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250Mbps is well above anything you would stream, and HA is just serving web pages and querying devices - more latency limited than throughput

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 5:10 PM

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shrewd veldt Why would you want a 16 year old, 105W TDP processor? 🤔

To go in my server that I frankenstiened from my 18 year old desktop Presario

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 5:11 PM

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heater?

shrewd veldt Jan 30, 2023, 5:14 PM

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It'd be cheaper to buy a SFF PC. That ancient thing will cost you a ton in power

last cedar Jan 30, 2023, 5:15 PM

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An optiplex x040 sff or later would be great, if you don't want more than a single hdd

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 5:20 PM

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shrewd veldt It'd be cheaper to buy a SFF PC. That ancient thing will cost you a ton in power

Maybe dogwat3r lives in a place that never needs cooling and often needs heating?

glacial knot Jan 30, 2023, 5:25 PM

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I'm slightly concerned about a setup that uses PCI network cards...

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ok, I just had some weird animation show up over the input field and now I'm concerned. Discord is bringing back clippy D:

scenic radish Jan 30, 2023, 5:30 PM

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kind delta Maybe dogwat3r lives in a place that never needs cooling and often needs heating...

Weird argument since that's a rather inefficient heater 😄

glacial knot Jan 30, 2023, 5:31 PM

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is it? I thought almost all PC energy ends up as heat

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it sucks at how it emits it, but efficiency should be high

static schooner Jan 30, 2023, 5:39 PM

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control the heat output by the bitcoin mining intensity

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at least get something out of it

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 6:05 PM

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The base system is a Compaq Presario SR2180NX

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Heat hasn't been a problem as of yet but it's been running less than a year. I slapped it together with what I had around, added a couple ssds to it and the gigabit network card (not knows conventional PCI was speed limited). All my decisions have been resource and money limited, but also outright misguided. But hey, I'm learning.

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If the 250mbps limit is fine then is there something better that would go in that PCIe slot once I free it up? It seems like it would be better to upgrade the CPU for Plex then say a video card? I doubt I'd be able to find one that's both compatible with both the old hardware and with Plex.

last cedar Jan 30, 2023, 6:13 PM

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@midnight adder whereabouts ish are you located?

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 6:13 PM

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WV, US just over an hour drive from DC

last cedar Jan 30, 2023, 6:14 PM

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Fair enough, I was thinking I have an older (7010) optiplex you could have, but postage to US would probably end up with a paperweight

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 6:14 PM

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Thank you, I appreciate the consideration

last cedar Jan 30, 2023, 6:16 PM

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Plex doesn't need a lot of hardware, if you are direct playing, if you are transcoding it can require a lot

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I run mine (temporarily, only for about 2 years now..) on an i3 low power 3000 series cpu, really old and slow

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 6:18 PM

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Pentium D 820 and Intel GMA 950. Yeah transcoding was the goal, but I could always copy movies to an external hard drive when I travel. I have 2017 HP Envy laptop with a GTX 750 in it that I should probably move the Plex to.

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I'm probably not doing myself any favors by keeping the bluray rips at their full file sizes either.

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 6:23 PM

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last cedar Another interest, or purely academic?

Purely sexual, consensual of course, the PCB told me it loved me

last cedar Jan 30, 2023, 6:27 PM

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midnight adder I'm probably not doing myself any favors by keeping the bluray rips at their ful...

I do that, I have the hdd space (for now)

last cedar Jan 30, 2023, 6:27 PM

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clear ferry Purely sexual, consensual of course, the PCB told me it loved me

Nothing like a sexy pair of capacitors, all tall and round

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 6:27 PM

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With their tops off

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 6:28 PM

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yeah, nobody really transcodes 4k. direct play is the way

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 6:28 PM

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GASP

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 6:28 PM

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defuck is that

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 6:28 PM

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night zodiac yeah, nobody really transcodes 4k. direct play is the way

With a proper Nvidia GPU 4-8 4k transcodes is no problem

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 6:28 PM

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okay, nobody does that

last cedar Jan 30, 2023, 6:28 PM

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clear ferry With their tops off

Mosfets.... so hot right now bites lip

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 6:30 PM

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night zodiac okay, nobody does that

A lot of people do, i tell my users to sodd off and get proper players

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 6:30 PM

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last cedar Mosfets.... so hot right now *bites lip*

r/bigcapacitancegothgfs

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 6:31 PM

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Mine can't even handle a single 1080p transcode right now

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 6:31 PM

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Preferably you don't want transcode at all

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But even my 13 year old CPUs handled multiple transcodes

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 6:31 PM

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Locally I don't need it, I was talking about remote access my bad

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 6:32 PM

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Just turn off transcoding and tell your users if they can't play it, buy a new player

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Atv4k is great and cheap

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 6:34 PM

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So if my FireStick 4k max at a remote location can't direct play from my Plex, it's a network problem?

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 6:35 PM

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Have you enabled directplay in its settings?

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 6:35 PM

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look in plex and make sure it's doing direct play

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 6:35 PM

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And what is the format?

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 6:37 PM

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Direct Play enabled, MKVs made using MakeMKV. Movies are 28-40gb in size, the one 4K I have is 51 (but I only ripped it to make sure the firmware flash to my optical drive worked)

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 6:37 PM

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I think the logs say why it is transcoded

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 6:38 PM

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The playback info in the exoplayer mentions not enough bandwidth but it's like just barely not enough. It will buffer every 10-30 seconds

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 6:39 PM

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Yeah, Plex media server. Log should say why

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What is your upload at server location? And download at remote location?

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 6:41 PM

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Sever location is 40mbps up and I guess I need to do some testing on higher speed networks because the fastest I've tested it on was about 50mbps down

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 6:42 PM

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Yeah that is barely enough

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 6:42 PM

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https://share.busheezy.dev/i/rn4JAq

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 6:42 PM

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Connection speed from the 00s

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I saw my copy of Thor was 125Mbps

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 6:44 PM

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So server upload speed is my problem?

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 6:44 PM

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your first problem

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others are hidden until you fix that one

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https://share.busheezy.dev/i/8bcaba

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 6:46 PM

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So if most of the 1080p files are playing between 28-42mbps what's an optimal upload for one or two remote direct plays?

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 6:46 PM

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Should I upgrade to 10g/10g @night zodiac ? TT_catsmile

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 6:46 PM

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lol, I think you keep your entire network in your garage so how much work could it be? /s

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 6:46 PM

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I can't go any lower than 350/350 with my current provider

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 6:46 PM

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night zodiac lol, I think you keep your entire network in your garage so how much work could ...

PU_PeepoLeaveExit

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 6:47 PM

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So my 1500/40 internet plan is just nonsensical?

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 6:47 PM

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Yes

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That is fucking bonkers

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 6:47 PM

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oh my, I've seen it a few times

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 6:48 PM

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I haven't seen non symmetric internet outside of docsis the last 15+ years

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 6:48 PM

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xfinity?

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 6:48 PM

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But I've had FTTH since 2004

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 6:48 PM

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it's all over in the US, fake docsis 3.1 fiber

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 6:48 PM

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Lol

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 6:49 PM

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Yup. Xfinity. Barf. We only just now got competition after some 20 years. I doubt I'd be able to convince my father to switch to fiber tho.

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 6:49 PM

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I am friends with the mother of the creator of the ISP that I use.

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 6:50 PM

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So what's a reasonable download/upload for a home network with say, 20 devices?

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 6:51 PM

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Anything less than 350/350 would probably be considered third world here

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Even my mil who lives 6km from the nearest telephone central has 500/500

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 6:52 PM

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unless they're streaming a ton of stuff, your main limit is just going to be your plex upload. whatever that needs + a little more for the rest of the people.

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you can look at the bitrate of your movies for an idea of what you'll need

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https://www.omnicalculator.com/other/streaming-bitrate

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 7:07 PM

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I changed some things and direct play is working just fine over my mobile network now.

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 7:11 PM

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With a 50gb file?

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That should be around... 40Mbps with a 3h movie

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Or maybe my math is off

static schooner Jan 30, 2023, 7:13 PM

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night zodiac I am friends with the mother of the creator of the ISP that I use.

where does that put you with respect to Kevin Bacon?

scenic radish Jan 30, 2023, 7:13 PM

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Yes

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 7:13 PM

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static schooner where does that put you with respect to Kevin Bacon?

hungry

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 7:13 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/bacon-pig-heater-closer-piggly-gif-24115615

Tenor

static schooner Jan 30, 2023, 7:13 PM

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Well, Kevin Bacon probably uses the Internet, which is connected to that ISP...

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 7:14 PM

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My greatest feat is still 3 degrees of separation from John Carmack

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Probably

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 7:29 PM

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clear ferry That should be around... 40Mbps with a 3h movie

38gb file for a 2 hour movie

last cedar Jan 30, 2023, 7:31 PM

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static schooner *Well, Kevin Bacon probably uses the Internet, which is connected to that ISP......

Chris P Bacon too

static schooner Jan 30, 2023, 7:51 PM

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I didn't get to finish my irrigation system wiring project yesterday and now the wago-connected wires are getting drenched in this rain storm. That is not usually a thing I need to worry about here...

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 7:53 PM

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scenic radish Weird argument since that's a rather inefficient heater 😄

I know it's no heat pump, bit that's way more efficient for heating than a gas boiler!

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 8:04 PM

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clear ferry Anything less than 350/350 would probably be considered third world here

So my 300/100 (which is my ISP's minimum) is third world? I thought it was just town-ish.

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 8:06 PM

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Yes, as I said, I haven't seen non symmetric outside of docsis in 15+ years

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 8:09 PM

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Oh, I have PON. It's just that the 100/100 plan got upgraded to 300/300 but intercorporate relationships dictate it's just 300/100 for this area.

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 8:10 PM

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Lol

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What on earth kind of nonsense word is that?

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 8:12 PM

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It's called infrastructure rental with priority for direct customers.

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 8:12 PM

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Lol

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You Americans

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 8:13 PM

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This is València. I'm Mediterranean.

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 8:13 PM

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Hwat

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 8:14 PM

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I live in a 400 or so inhabitants village.

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 8:14 PM

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Scandinavia rejects your strange concepts

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 8:15 PM

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I pay half of the direct customer price to get service that I only ever max on purpose.

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 8:15 PM

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My closest town is 10 minutes away by car, but it is only 3500 people

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 8:17 PM

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There's fibre from only one company. Its direct customers get terrible customer service and pay about 50€ per month for the fibre alone. I think it comes with a VoIP landline.

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 8:17 PM

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Here any company that wants to provide over fiber can rent the lines from any other company by law

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 8:19 PM

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Same here. I get decent customer service, no weird price hikes, and about 20€ per month. It's not symmetric, but I've never needed more than 100 Mb/s for podman push.

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 8:19 PM

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I currently pay €80 for 1000/1000

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 8:20 PM

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This stuff is clearly not linear.

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 8:20 PM

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$69.95/mo locked for life

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I can't move

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 8:21 PM

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300/300 is €60

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 8:21 PM

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I live 3 1/2 hours away from Chicago and I get better ping to most Chicago servers than people that live in Chicago, (games)

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 8:21 PM

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10000/10000 is €165

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 8:21 PM

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ooooh

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pretty numbers

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that's a pretty good deal

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 8:22 PM

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It's ok

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Sweden has better prices

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Switzerland even better

last cedar Jan 30, 2023, 8:23 PM

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clear ferry Sweden has better prices

Internet is cheap, but everything else can be paid with with doormats

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 8:23 PM

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10Gbit is €49 in Switzerland

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 8:24 PM

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I'm printing pretty chains for my printer. 🙂

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I redid my printer setup over the weekend and got both machines running on one pi now. woooo

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 8:25 PM

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clear ferry 300/300 is €60

I double checked. 25 here, not 20.

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 8:26 PM

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Pinging kz.badservers.net [104.128.58.51] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 104.128.58.51: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=58
Reply from 104.128.58.51: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=58
Reply from 104.128.58.51: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=58
Reply from 104.128.58.51: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=58

Ping statistics for 104.128.58.51:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 8ms, Maximum = 8ms, Average = 8ms

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 8:28 PM

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I do 2-3ms to most Norwegian services

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 8:28 PM

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https://share.busheezy.dev/i/XPJPe3 I am the purple dot

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 8:28 PM

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Oh, pretty solid.

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 8:28 PM

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https://www.cogentco.com/files/images/network/network_map/2022web_networkmap_page.jpg

static schooner Jan 30, 2023, 8:28 PM

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Pretty good for reindeer transport

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 8:29 PM

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eirikz@mirai ~ % ping www.sol.no                                                                                                  PING www.sol.no (104.18.4.212) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 104.18.4.212 (104.18.4.212): icmp_seq=1 ttl=59 time=1.96 ms
64 bytes from 104.18.4.212 (104.18.4.212): icmp_seq=2 ttl=59 time=2.52 ms
64 bytes from 104.18.4.212 (104.18.4.212): icmp_seq=3 ttl=59 time=2.25 ms
64 bytes from 104.18.4.212 (104.18.4.212): icmp_seq=4 ttl=59 time=2.26 ms
64 bytes from 104.18.4.212 (104.18.4.212): icmp_seq=5 ttl=59 time=2.47 ms

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 8:29 PM

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lol, I used purple without realizing the other purple dots

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all of that variation

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awful

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 8:29 PM

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😦

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 8:29 PM

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lmao

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how do I get decimal places on windows

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 8:29 PM

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You have no variation with your subhuman windows ping

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Lål

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 8:30 PM

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oh no

silent doveBOT Jan 30, 2023, 8:31 PM

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@night zodiac I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 8:31 PM

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fuck off

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I mean, thanks bot

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 8:31 PM

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HaHaa

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 8:40 PM

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clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 8:42 PM

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That looks like sandstone

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 8:43 PM

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Textured bed. I like the way it comes out

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I'm close to the end of a roll so I am printing like a few at a time

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 8:48 PM

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Love learning that I'm getting absolutely suckered on my internet plan

low harness Jan 30, 2023, 8:50 PM

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That's true pretty much whatever plan you have, so... 🤷

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 8:53 PM

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Fair. It doesn't look like my isp even offers more than 40mbps upload anyway. At least from what I can find

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 9:10 PM

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I don't think I've seen anything less than 100/100 since the early 10s

finite atlas Jan 30, 2023, 9:14 PM

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clear ferry I don't think I've seen anything less than 100/100 since the early 10s

mid 20s and here is our connection

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 9:16 PM

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DSL, rough

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 9:18 PM

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I'm lucky to even have Xfinity. There are people in PA not even an hour away who all they can get is satellite or something like T-Mobile Internet

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 9:18 PM

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my parents are very lucky to have starlink

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 9:36 PM

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So if I won't notice any difference with a PCIe network card over the PCI card I have now, is there anything I could add to the system for more functionality or performance?

static schooner Jan 30, 2023, 9:52 PM

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Stripes

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 9:57 PM

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I got a 4TB drive so that I could consolidate everything to one drive instead of the laptop-graveyard variety pack I'm using now (actually two of them are the OEM drives from a ps3 and ps4 but I digress), but if I stay with the PCI NIC and keep the SATA expansion in the PCIe, I could go from 4TB to 7.4TB. What the heck would I do with all that space? Aside from starting to buy TV series on bluray, I guess

finite atlas Jan 30, 2023, 10:05 PM

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midnight adder So if I won't notice any difference with a PCIe network card over the PCI card I...

what is your computer problem?

finite atlas Jan 30, 2023, 10:05 PM

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night zodiac DSL, rough

germany's latest and newest internet technology

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 10:09 PM

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finite atlas what is your computer problem?

I've come to learn that I don't really have a "problem" per say, I've just built an abomination

finite atlas Jan 30, 2023, 10:12 PM

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ah yes, the usual

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 10:13 PM

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I'll have to get a job eventually, then I'll have money to get something half decent. Its been a learning experience if nothing else

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 10:14 PM

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midnight adder I'm lucky to even have Xfinity. There are people in PA not even an hour away who...

Satellite as in Starlink?

keen bridge Jan 30, 2023, 10:15 PM

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Starlink is low level satellites

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Most satellite internet is slower (because of the higher altitude)

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 10:15 PM

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keen bridge Starlink is low level satellites

You mean LEO?

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 10:15 PM

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kind delta Satellite as in Starlink?

Noooooooo Satellite as in Hughsnet or Dish

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 10:15 PM

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midnight adder Noooooooo Satellite as in Hughsnet or Dish

Ewww.

keen bridge Jan 30, 2023, 10:15 PM

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Yup

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Hughesnet is sadly very common.

static schooner Jan 30, 2023, 10:16 PM

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I remember when it used a 56k modem uplink 🙂

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 10:17 PM

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static schooner I remember when it used a 56k modem uplink 🙂

I remember when the supermarket used a 56k modem in 2008.

low harness Jan 30, 2023, 10:17 PM

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keen bridge Most satellite internet is slower (because of the higher altitude)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eyFDBPk4Yw

YouTube

funbury

Admiral Grace Hopper Explains the Nanosecond

Admiral Grace Hopper was one of the first programmers of the Harvard Mark I computer. She developed the first compiler for a computer programming language. Here she explains a nanosecond to a room of learners.

Transcript:

They started talking about circuits that acted in nanoseconds. Billionths of a second. Well, I didn't know what a billi...

▶ Play video

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 10:17 PM

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I have family that live the cousin-lovin' banjo-lickin' south-central part of the state and its honestly like getting in a time machine and going back 15 years.

finite atlas Jan 30, 2023, 10:19 PM

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someone gotta buy the old stuff, so we can buy brand new stuff

umbral cliff Jan 30, 2023, 10:25 PM

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clear ferry I don't think I've seen anything less than 100/100 since the early 10s

Come to australia, see our 1000/50

kind delta Jan 30, 2023, 10:25 PM

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umbral cliff Come to australia, see our 1000/50

Whole cow, mate!

umbral cliff Jan 30, 2023, 10:25 PM

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I can’t wait for them to make it more symmetrical, plans are there, just for businesses

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 10:26 PM

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Seems like you're on par with us in the US

umbral cliff Jan 30, 2023, 10:26 PM

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Except we’re not using infrastructure owned by a single company

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Or tied to a single ISP

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Speeds may be crap, but at least its all gov owned

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 10:27 PM

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I stand corrected

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 10:28 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/freedom-gif-25824935

Tenor

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 10:38 PM

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clear ferry I don't think I've seen anything less than 100/100 since the early 10s

The Bahamas has entered the chat

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but to be fair, it's gotten pretty good in the last 5 years

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https://www.speedtest.net/result/14213177124.png

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im waiting on fiber from my ISP to get in my area

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then I will get 300/50

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 10:43 PM

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That was better than expected

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 10:43 PM

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for less money

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 10:43 PM

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For the Bahamas

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 10:43 PM

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5 years ago this was the best package you could get

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but the other ISP is doing 600/100 as of about 6 months ago

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so waiting on them to catch up in the arms race

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 10:44 PM

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clear ferry For the Bahamas

it's The* Bahamas

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https://tenor.com/view/muttley-laugh-dog-cartoon-thats-funny-gif-17497923

Tenor

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 10:45 PM

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They / Them Bahamses

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 10:45 PM

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perfect.

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 10:45 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/perfection-michael-fassbender-perfectionist-perfect-gif-7910211

Tenor

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 10:45 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/perfect-ko-knock-out-street-fighter-v-zangeif-karp-gif-11993980

Tenor

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whenever I say "perfect" I say it like the announcer on street fighter

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#funfactaboutkrazie

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 10:46 PM

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That's some modern street fighter

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 10:46 PM

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yeah it's V

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 10:46 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/chun-li-ken-street-fighter-sf2-fighting-games-gif-19980276

Tenor

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 10:46 PM

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that's a newer one too

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that's not OG SF

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 10:46 PM

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It's still number 2

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1992?

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 10:46 PM

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nope

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it's not

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SSF II SCE

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 10:47 PM

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Oh it isn't

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 10:47 PM

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is part 2

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 10:47 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/blanka-street-fighter2-turtling-turtle-come-at-me-gif-24555608

Tenor

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 10:48 PM

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clear ferry 1992?

that's actually SF A

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1995/6

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 10:48 PM

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TT_CryPepeIgnore

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Damn gifs

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 10:48 PM

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you couldn't do a 8 hit combo in SF II

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that's the first thing that caught my eye

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you had a hell of a time pulling off a 4 hit shoryuken and that's if you were cracked like I Was

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 10:49 PM

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I remember being sick with chicken pox at my classmates house playing sf2, they pooled kids together when one got it

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 10:49 PM

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I never caught it

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till I was almost 19

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my family would do the same thing

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 10:50 PM

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1992, so I was 8 PTSD

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 10:50 PM

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my immune system was like

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https://tenor.com/view/girl-fight-gif-fighting-hair-gif-24844246

Tenor

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 10:50 PM

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clear ferry 1992, so I was 8 <a:PTSD:857168811114364948>

I was 10

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 10:50 PM

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I had chicken pox at the same time I had tonsilitis when I was 5

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 10:51 PM

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Yikes

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 10:51 PM

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man they had it in for you that day

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 10:51 PM

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Rough time for the parents

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 10:51 PM

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I had tonsils out at 4-5

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chicken pox at 19 was NOT FUN

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 10:51 PM

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I had my fake tonsils out at 5 months, real ones out at 3

static schooner Jan 30, 2023, 10:51 PM

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I had chicken pox @ 19. It definitely sucked

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I was in college

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I thought I was going to die

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 10:52 PM

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Tonsils and adenoids. Had chocolate milk running out of my nose at lunchtime for months.

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 10:52 PM

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static schooner I had chicken pox @ 19. It definitely sucked

did you find out by someone telling you you had herp on your face and then you ran to the bathroom? or was that just me

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 10:52 PM

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static schooner I had chicken pox @ 19. It definitely sucked

In 1969?

static schooner Jan 30, 2023, 10:52 PM

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my college roommate had them too

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 10:53 PM

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static schooner my college roommate had them too

bofadese?

static schooner Jan 30, 2023, 10:53 PM

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missing a bunch of sophomore year college classes also sucked

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 10:54 PM

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clear ferry In 1969?

Our age gap would probably make you feel just as old

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 10:54 PM

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static schooner missing a bunch of sophomore year college classes also sucked

I was at work, had a big network to deploy that weekend. about 200K of equipment that sat till I wasn't infectious

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 10:54 PM

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midnight adder Our age gap would probably make you feel just as old

im guessing you're under 20

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my son uses "dogwater" and he's 16 lol

static schooner Jan 30, 2023, 10:55 PM

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I was listening to Pretty Hate Machine around that time and I remember Head like a Hole running through my head at seemingly high volume when I just wanted to sleep

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 10:55 PM

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midnight adder Our age gap would probably make you feel just as old

My wife says I'm 90, don't worry

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 10:55 PM

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at least people don't call you grandpa rick

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sadge

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 10:57 PM

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It's midnight and I'm in the reclining chair in the living room with a coughing one year old, letting my wife sleep in peace, you can call me anything you want

finite atlas Jan 30, 2023, 10:57 PM

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i call you a good dad

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 10:57 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/cat-coughing-gif-21233545

Tenor

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 10:57 PM

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my comments would not be seen as politically correct and must be pre-redacted

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but may the 4th be with you

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 11:01 PM

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steel crag im guessing you're under 20

Over 20 but I've been using dogwat3r as a secondary since I was 17 so thats fair

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That reminds me about my urology consult in month. Excited for that.

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:02 PM

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I've been online since 1993

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harold

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 11:03 PM

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Thats a 14 year head start on me

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:04 PM

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clear ferry I've been online since 1993

I was only on dialup around then, and very terrible dialup

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BBS was more reliable

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:07 PM

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Yes, dialup and bbs

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Played a lot of lotrd

static schooner Jan 30, 2023, 11:07 PM

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I feel like atx has some giant timeline of life events on his wall that he consults when he needs a time reference

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:08 PM

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Yes

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It is how I keep track of time

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Same how I navigate cities, major landmarks

shrewd veldt Jan 30, 2023, 11:09 PM

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Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:09 PM

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well he has to fix his Street Fighter section as pointed out previously

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:09 PM

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Shaka when the walls fell

static schooner Jan 30, 2023, 11:09 PM

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good times, good times

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:10 PM

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he's got the invention of the wheel and fire up there too no?

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:10 PM

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No, that's tinkerer

static schooner Jan 30, 2023, 11:10 PM

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well before we got such things in the USA, no doubt

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:10 PM

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clear ferry No, that's tinkerer

I'm teasing, we've established I'm your elder.

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:11 PM

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Screenshot_2023-01-31-00-11-47-63_3aea4af51f236e4932235fdada7d1643.jpg

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 11:12 PM

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We've all certainly had wildly different experiences. When I was 8, I filled up my dinky little oli mp3 player using limewire. That was around the same time I learned how to do chroma key and started messing with OBS. Dad taught me about torrenting when I was around 10. By the time I was 12 I pirated a ps3 game and got it mostly running on my system before I set it up to dual boot linux and used it as a PC for 6 months just to see if I could.

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:12 PM

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I finally found a picture of tinkerer

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 11:12 PM

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That has nothing to do with ability/skill and everything to do with what was available on a consumer level at the time

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:12 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjQYLyvai6s neat

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:13 PM

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I mean shit I bought one of the first mp3 players on the market, and it had a parallel port interface for v1 LOL

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:13 PM

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LOL

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:13 PM

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the Samsung Yepp

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I still have it

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uses smart media cards, 32mb on board and I have a 32mb card for it

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:14 PM

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I bought a used CDR drive in ... 1998? Paid $300 for it with a crooked laser, one out of 4 burns failed

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But then cdr disks were $15 each

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:14 PM

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my first CDR drive cost me $600 Canadian and it was a whopping 4x

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:14 PM

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This one was 2x SCSI if memory serves right

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:14 PM

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oh you fancy huh

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:15 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/arrested-development-lucille-bluth-banana-money-what-could-it-cost-gif-16566503

Tenor

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:15 PM

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I think I paid like 1000Kr for my Yepp in Sweden

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or something ridiculous

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 11:16 PM

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My first drive I ever burned anything with was a lightscribe lmao

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:16 PM

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but the card was the same price as the player

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lol

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:16 PM

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midnight adder My first drive I ever burned anything with was a lightscribe lmao

man you never burnt at 1x speeds?

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:16 PM

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I had lightscribe at some point

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Never used it

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:17 PM

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I have a lightscribe

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never used it also

umbral cliff Jan 30, 2023, 11:17 PM

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I don't think I ever really burnt a cd. I kinda skipped the whole CD phased

Used VHS until 2011, went to USB for computers as soon as I could

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:17 PM

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shrewd veldt Jan 30, 2023, 11:17 PM

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I remember when my dad bought one of the first flash drives on the market, 8MB. Didn't need to use floppies anymore

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:17 PM

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night zodiac

you sir, are a man of culture I See

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:17 PM

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I haven't burned anything for personal use since probably 2005, just had fileservers

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:17 PM

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I am young compared to y'all but I was burning PS1 games back then, lol

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:18 PM

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clear ferry I haven't burned anything for personal use since probably 2005, just had fileser...

yeah same, I just rip the disc to ISO

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:18 PM

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night zodiac I am young compared to y'all but I was burning PS1 games back then, lol

Dreamcast was better, no copy protection WHATSOEVER

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 11:18 PM

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You were cool if you had a portable CD player on the schoolbus when I was younger

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:18 PM

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I had a modchip and it was super easy to get games

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:18 PM

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but yeah I have a PS1 with the external mod to play JPN region games

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:18 PM

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yeah, haha

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:19 PM

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midnight adder You were cool if you had a portable CD player on the schoolbus when I was younge...

well if you were cool you had a boombox in my day and like a bag of batteries

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if you didn't have 86 D Cell batteries did you even play music in the 80s/90s?

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:19 PM

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We stopped doing portable cd player around 1996 i believe, was a lot of minidisk thereon out, and mp3 players from early 00

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:19 PM

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what was the name of that weird disk format that had a bunch of space? mid 2000's

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:19 PM

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ZIP disks?

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from IOmega?

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:20 PM

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don't think so

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I had a sony walkman that supported it

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:20 PM

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MiniDisc then

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:20 PM

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MO disk?

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:20 PM

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MD

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or DAT?

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:20 PM

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yeah, minidisk

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I loved that thing

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:20 PM

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Minidisk was mid 90s onward

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:20 PM

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I have a MD player in one of my Subaru's

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:20 PM

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📎 il_680x540.3959038563_3h6s.avif

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I think this is what I had

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:21 PM

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but it's also got a 6+1CD changer and cassette....

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 11:21 PM

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Techmoan has a lot of content about minidisc

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:21 PM

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never had but one MD and it was japanese music that came in the car somehow

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:21 PM

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the software I used was pretty bad but I had a ton of storage, lol

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:22 PM

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I've always been a storage junkie

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:23 PM

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I've had fileservers since 2000, so other storage media wasn't used much

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Had streaming and hosting of media from the early 00s

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2004/5 thereabouts

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:25 PM

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clear ferry I've had fileservers since 2000, so other storage media wasn't used much

I was 9

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🙂

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:25 PM

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yeah same

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around that time

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:25 PM

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night zodiac I was 9

well I was 18 and he was 16 LOL

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:25 PM

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night zodiac 🙂

https://tenor.com/view/daddy-excited-omg-will-ferrell-happy-gif-16356215

Tenor

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 11:25 PM

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My existence was dependent on which half of that year we're discussing

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:26 PM

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BAHAHAHAHAHA

finite atlas Jan 30, 2023, 11:26 PM

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night zodiac I was 9

i was -1 :)

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you old man

umbral cliff Jan 30, 2023, 11:26 PM

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I was 2 in 2000

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:26 PM

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you were still in BagDAD

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:26 PM

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umbral cliff I was 2 in 2000

my condolences

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:26 PM

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I've been playing instruments longer than most here I see

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:26 PM

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I had a computer in my bedroom since around 2000 though. I even had an auto dialing modem. 😎

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:27 PM

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And heck, I've been playing with Linux since calmelb was born

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 11:27 PM

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finite atlas i was -1 :)

It feels good not being the youngest person in certain places. In other places it freaks me out.

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:27 PM

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autodialing modem is not a flex, simmer down

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lol

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:27 PM

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yeah it was

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🙂

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:27 PM

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a checkbox is not a flex

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lol

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:27 PM

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night zodiac I had a computer in my bedroom since around 2000 though. I even had an auto dial...

Lol, haven't dialed anything since 1996

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:27 PM

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old fucks keep forgetting I was 9

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:28 PM

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I used dialup for lots of things up until about 4 years ago when I quit

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out of band management

finite atlas Jan 30, 2023, 11:28 PM

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midnight adder It feels good not being the youngest person in certain places. In other places i...

i dont bother about age

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:28 PM

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I don't consider ISDN connection dialup, since there is no brrrrr bzzzzzz bap bap bap brrrrrrr bzzzzzzzzzz biiiiip

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:28 PM

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atx is just happy he still remembers his age and where he is at

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:28 PM

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welcome to the internet, where men are women, women are men, and little boys are FBI agents

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who remembers that quote

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:29 PM

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you, for a start

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:29 PM

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I remember it as little girls

umbral cliff Jan 30, 2023, 11:29 PM

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Should be little Norwegians

finite atlas Jan 30, 2023, 11:29 PM

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steel crag welcome to the internet, where men are women, women are men, and little boys are...

umbral cliff Jan 30, 2023, 11:29 PM

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Like atx

static schooner Jan 30, 2023, 11:29 PM

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And where nobody knows you're a dog

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:29 PM

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clear ferry I remember it as little girls

I banish you to the depths of bash.org to repent

static schooner Jan 30, 2023, 11:29 PM

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Or a...raccoon

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 11:29 PM

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finite atlas i dont bother about age

Sounds like something the youngest person in the room would say /s

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:29 PM

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Wonder when @last cedar will get my package awkwardflushed

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:30 PM

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midnight adder Sounds like something the youngest person in the room would say /s

sounds like something someone with only one person younger than them would say

static schooner Jan 30, 2023, 11:31 PM

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For US folks: I got an email about being allowed to start making 'catch up' 401(k) contributions. I didn't know whether to be happy or sad

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:31 PM

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Lol

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What the actual fuck

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:32 PM

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IDEKWTFTI

static schooner Jan 30, 2023, 11:32 PM

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Not for you

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:32 PM

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What does catch up entail?

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 11:32 PM

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My father definitely had a personal moment the first time something from Humana showed up with his name on it

static schooner Jan 30, 2023, 11:33 PM

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I get to put more money into a tax deferred retirement account

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:33 PM

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oh

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we don't have income tax here

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but we also don't get welfare

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so fair trade?

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:33 PM

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Win/lose

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:34 PM

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yeah it's like "fuck you/fuck you?"

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 11:34 PM

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Welfare is so poorly managed here its not as useful as you'd think it would be

finite atlas Jan 30, 2023, 11:34 PM

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midnight adder Sounds like something the youngest person in the room would say /s

¯_(ツ)_/¯

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:34 PM

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government still gone win that fight tho

finite atlas Jan 30, 2023, 11:34 PM

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age is something you cant change, knowledge and behaviour is

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:34 PM

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My wife is doing catch up to retirement fund as she started working full time at 37 tbf

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I'm already pouring money into that for decades

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:35 PM

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midnight adder Welfare is so poorly managed here its not as useful as you'd think it would be

here you can get like 6 weeks unemployment benefit depending if you have contributed to National insurance

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you get that, and that's like $280/week

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after that its fuck you

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oh also if you are self employed you are still required to contribute, but you are not eligible for benefits

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so I'm selling my company to another company (that I own) and employing myself

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so I can fire myself when things are slow

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and get benefits

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:37 PM

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Lol

midnight adder Jan 30, 2023, 11:37 PM

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I'm not knowledgeable of unemployment here but I think there's some ridiculous restrictions regarding your last job and the circumstances surrounding your departure

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:37 PM

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here it doesn't matter, as long as you are fired you can get 6 weeks

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:37 PM

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https://tenor.com/x8X0.gif

Tenor

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:38 PM

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so guess who's about to be the most fired guy in history

static schooner Jan 30, 2023, 11:38 PM

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don't make me find the cow

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:38 PM

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static schooner don't make me find the cow

https://tenor.com/bL6ae.gif

Tenor

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:38 PM

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I get full pay for 3 years if I have to stop working due to injury or illness

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:39 PM

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better not slip on those ethernet cords

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:39 PM

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im guessing you're in Norway?

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:39 PM

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Yes

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:39 PM

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or EU for sure

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ahhh I thought so

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they have some of the best coverage I have ever seen

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:39 PM

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night zodiac better not slip on those ethernet cords

Oh step-fiber cable, I've fallen into the rack again

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:39 PM

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as I said I lived in Sweden awhile

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:39 PM

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clear ferry Oh step-fiber cable, I've fallen into the rack again

coming step bro

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:39 PM

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Swedes have nothing on us

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:39 PM

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no I know

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:39 PM

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flying jacobs

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:40 PM

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I found it out living in Sweden tho

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LOL

finite atlas Jan 30, 2023, 11:40 PM

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clear ferry Swedes have nothing on us

a lot of not so nice imported people in their capital, they have that

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:40 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/nee-nää-nej-jag-tror-gif-14510142

Tenor

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:40 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Jacob

Flying Jacob

Flying Jacob (Swedish: flygande Jacob/Jakob pronounced [flyːˈgandɛ jɑːˈkɔp]) is a Swedish casserole composed of chicken, cream, chilli sauce, bananas, roasted peanuts and bacon. The dish is baked in an oven and is usually served with rice and a salad.
The dish was invented by Ove Jacobsson who worked in the air freight industry, hence the name. ...

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:40 PM

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night zodiac https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Jacob

Never heard of this one

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:40 PM

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actually never had that

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:41 PM

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in my foods class, in school, we had to cook Scandinavian food so I chose this.

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the teacher was horrified

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:41 PM

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Jansons Fristelsar on the other hand

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:41 PM

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you couldn't go with a smorgastarta?

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:42 PM

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Yuck

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:42 PM

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teehee

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:42 PM

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I googled it and seent a shrimp cake

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:42 PM

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Smalahove is great too

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:42 PM

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night zodiac I googled it and seent a shrimp cake

close

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it's a seafood "cake"

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:42 PM

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https://share.busheezy.dev/i/Gh9aJ9

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cursed

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:43 PM

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well it's a sandwich cake

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it doesn't have to be seafood

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but I don't eat ham or pork

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so that limits me to smorgastarta with seafood

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:44 PM

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Kleppmelk is also interesting

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Literally translates at milk with lumps

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:44 PM

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well beaten milk

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in some language variations

static schooner Jan 30, 2023, 11:45 PM

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you could just leave milk on the counter and there's no prep at all

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:45 PM

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This guy milks

steel crag Jan 30, 2023, 11:45 PM

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yougurt for everyone

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:46 PM

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Like the cheese with live maggots

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If the maggots are dead

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Don't eat it

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That means it's bad

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:46 PM

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cheese is good

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:46 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casu_martzu?wprov=sfla1

Casu martzu

Casu martzu (Sardinian pronunciation: [ˈkazu ˈmaɾtsu]; literally 'rotten/putrid cheese'), sometimes spelled casu marzu, and also called casu modde, casu cundídu and casu fràzigu in Sardinian, is a traditional Sardinian sheep milk cheese that contains live insect larvae (maggots).
A variation of this cheese exists also in Corsica (France), where...

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:47 PM

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Because of European Union food hygiene-health regulations, the cheese has been outlawed, and offenders face heavy fines.```

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:48 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/teletubbies-fuck-the-system-die-antwoord-gif-10625035

Tenor

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:48 PM

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it probably would have been more effective to flood the market with it so it's so cheap that everyone has tried cheap rotten cheese

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do a quick wave of stinky cheese

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everyone gets sick

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ez

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I am good at science

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man, I am hungry

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:51 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/cat-big-mouth-eating-waffle-gif-25169126

Tenor

night zodiac Jan 30, 2023, 11:53 PM

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I should have weighed my filament. I think there is a bit more than I thought.

clear ferry Jan 30, 2023, 11:57 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/sml-junior-oh-my-god-its-so-big-its-so-big-so-big-gif-24845432

midnight adder Jan 31, 2023, 3:16 AM

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Opinions on WD Blue 5400rpm for movie storage?

last cedar Jan 31, 2023, 5:28 AM

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Depends @midnight adder !

If it is a good price, then go for it, but you want backups of any data you can't replace, regardless of what disks you are running!

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My preference is to run red plus, or ironwolf (seagate) drives in raid, but I wanted more storage and "safety"

dusky plank Jan 31, 2023, 6:25 AM

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wd red for me any day

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somehow all the seagate drives end up dead here for me, must be some rough transport

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low harness Jan 31, 2023, 6:41 AM

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night zodiac https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Jacob

That is so friggin' good! Works great on a pizza too. Without the sauce, of course.

umbral cliff Jan 31, 2023, 9:12 AM

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Who’s a finn here

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 9:16 AM

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You mean Mr K

finite atlas Jan 31, 2023, 9:43 AM

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midnight adder Opinions on WD Blue 5400rpm for movie storage?

get reds, they should last much longer
mine has 20k hours on it and not had a single issue

dusky plank Jan 31, 2023, 9:44 AM

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You can also shuck the green ones and modify the spindown time, they are the same as base red but not comparable to plus and pro

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:49 AM

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Fun, my hassos vm just ate shit.

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FS errors everywhere

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 11:16 AM

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Fun fun, the corruption was there at least as far back as the 20th.

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I wonder what caused that

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Snapshot from the 14th worked though, yay

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266 snapshots since Apr 15th, woo backups

last cedar Jan 31, 2023, 11:43 AM

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Much better to just rebuild all data when stuff crashes 🤣

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 12:08 PM

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Data corruption

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I remember that, sometime in the early 00s on a bad drive

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 12:13 PM

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I moved it from Ceph to a local LVM disk on a hw raid 5 on the 18th, pretty sure that was the cause.

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And the VM just hadn't been powered down since it was on ceph

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 12:14 PM

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Lvm on raid

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Yikes

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Is that some proxmox nonsense?

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 12:16 PM

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It's 'I want features LVM provides'

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Plus it integrates well with Proxmox

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I guess I could define volumes on my raid card instead of using LVM

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 12:19 PM

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Yeah I've never seen LVM on top of raid before

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Doesn't proxmox support zfs?

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Resilience [X]
Volumes [X]
Snapshots [X]

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Hw raid is fine for boot mirrors, seldom see it used for anything else these days, LVM is also great for mirrors, especially across multiple drives on systems remote from the mirroring host

pallid willow Jan 31, 2023, 12:47 PM

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clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 12:54 PM

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Yikes

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=(|

scenic radish Jan 31, 2023, 1:16 PM

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🤣

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you can plug so many space heaters into this bad boy

clever mortar Jan 31, 2023, 1:18 PM

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I'm pretty sure it's required to plug extension cables into that

keen bridge Jan 31, 2023, 1:21 PM

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It reminds me of these, which are fine until you have transformers which go above the plug instead of below 🤪

last cedar Jan 31, 2023, 1:22 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/10puqk0/beauties_of_learning_swedish/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=13&utm_content=share_button

r/europe - Beauties of learning Swedish...

838 votes and 115 comments so far on Reddit

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 1:24 PM

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scenic radish 🤣

But does the wiring go up down up down, or side to side to side or just fuck it all mesh?

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I need to know

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I think I have finally gotten carpal tunnel after 38 years of computer use

keen bridge Jan 31, 2023, 1:28 PM

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clear ferry But does the wiring go up down up down, or side to side to side or just fuck it ...

The latter!

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 1:29 PM

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But does it do internal STP to hinder a short then?

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RSTP, risky spanning tree protocol

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 2:41 PM

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keen bridge It reminds me of these, which are fine until you have transformers which go abov...

Robots in disguise.

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Chainsssss

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 2:43 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/cuban-link-chain-gucci-mane-dissin-the-dead-song-jewelry-grill-gif-26497732

Tenor

last cedar Jan 31, 2023, 2:50 PM

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clear ferry RSTP, risky spanning tree protocol

Raccoons Stealing Toilet Paper

last cedar Jan 31, 2023, 2:50 PM

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clear ferry Doesn't proxmox support zfs?

It does!

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 3:26 PM

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See, problem solved

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 4:08 PM

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https://share.busheezy.dev/i/9VBCxp Hue emailing me with accurate representation of sports.

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go team!

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 4:12 PM

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Not accurate enough, not all ethnicities and genders represented

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 4:12 PM

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They all have their prop!

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 4:12 PM

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Like all our training materials

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 4:12 PM

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face paint, helmet, popcorn bowl, football

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 4:13 PM

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One Asian guy, one African American guy, one Caucasian lady, all laughing in front of a server

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 4:13 PM

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two left handers and two right handers

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haha, points at server, hahaha. OH YOUUUU

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https://tenor.com/uXbb.gif

Tenor

static schooner Jan 31, 2023, 4:13 PM

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the person in the helmet represents whatever's missing

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 4:13 PM

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Token wildcard guy?

static schooner Jan 31, 2023, 4:14 PM

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could be horribly disfigured under there, like Darth Vader

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 4:14 PM

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one time I went to point to a dell blade where I used to work while talking to my coworker and we heard my finger tap the blade. we both looked at the server and was like, wouldn't it have been terrible if I hit the power button.

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a few seconds later, the machine turned off

static schooner Jan 31, 2023, 4:15 PM

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that's why voice control is dangerous

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 4:16 PM

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worlds most sensitive power buttons on dell blades

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insane

static schooner Jan 31, 2023, 4:16 PM

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should be behind a guard

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 4:16 PM

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yeah, should be

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there were a lot of things wrong with that place

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 4:16 PM

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You should see the emergency power buttons on Hitachi storage @night zodiac

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It's very sensitive, and a spring jumps out if you trigger it

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So you can never get power again before you replace it

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 4:17 PM

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we spent like 2 or 3 nights just removing ethernet cables only connected on one end and sometimes connected on 0 ends

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just rats nest. 🙂

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atx, defusing a bomb to power it on?

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nothing was documented at that place. we were trying to figure out what was on the machine when the front desk called us to say the payroll software was offline

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it was the end of the week. 🙂

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I think it all just eventually connected with a power on

finite atlas Jan 31, 2023, 4:19 PM

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pallid willow

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371443628184436768/1069039959652180039/b2c5a03cb3cf4c7c.jpg

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 4:20 PM

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5 stars

pallid willow Jan 31, 2023, 4:22 PM

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hmm yes

finite atlas Jan 31, 2023, 4:23 PM

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or just get the real fire starter

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371443628184436768/1069203550023975003/image.png

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 4:23 PM

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what in thee fuck

static schooner Jan 31, 2023, 4:31 PM

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The bottom one is kinda genius. I get tired of the spacing being just a little off

keen bridge Jan 31, 2023, 4:32 PM

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I feel like the USA needs to just watch the Tom Scott video on the British plug

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We don't have to worry about sticking a fork in there to electrocute ourselves at least 😄

static schooner Jan 31, 2023, 4:33 PM

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Maybe we just need many plugs that slide on a rail

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 4:33 PM

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why you sticking forks around outlets?

static schooner Jan 31, 2023, 4:33 PM

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To cook your food?

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 4:33 PM

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o.O

keen bridge Jan 31, 2023, 4:34 PM

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We had that at my old office. Conduit running along the walls and all the cables inside it. I needed another 4 plugs in my office and wanted to move two of them, it took the folks from maintenance about 30 minutes 🤩

static schooner Jan 31, 2023, 4:36 PM

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I have so many cases where I need to use a short extender cable because a plug doesn't quite fit. And sometimes it's because they just designed it to hang over in the wrong direction

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 4:36 PM

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yep. so many 6" extensions. 😛

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the pdu that comes out of my UPS looks insane

forest edge Jan 31, 2023, 4:38 PM

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@young sigil good call on that swipe. works like a charm

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@static schoonerhow is yours progressing?

static schooner Jan 31, 2023, 4:40 PM

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I don't think there's an image available that does what I want, so I'm going to back out and try the screen reader thing again at some point

forest edge Jan 31, 2023, 4:40 PM

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as janky as the setup to do all of this is. it's shocking how well it actually runs

static schooner Jan 31, 2023, 4:40 PM

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I don't have an actual use for these things, so not in a big hurry

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I have a couple of RF remote temp/weather displays that they could replace

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clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 4:42 PM

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Shuko is the ultimate plug

forest edge Jan 31, 2023, 4:42 PM

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was debating about picking up another. ditching the base and just using it on the entertainment center for a quick view of the camera

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 4:42 PM

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And not the French version

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 4:43 PM

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I live across the street from ACE hardware and I am pretty sure I pick up like 10 of their display sensors over there

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You might be able to use an ESP to feed your oregon scientific data into HA if you're not already. https://github.com/NorthernMan54/rtl_433_ESP

static schooner Jan 31, 2023, 4:45 PM

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I already have other temp sensors that feed data into HA (like my Weatherflow), so this is more about displaying

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 4:46 PM

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nice

static schooner Jan 31, 2023, 4:46 PM

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I'd prefer to ditch the remote sensor and not need to maintain another battery device that's hard to reach

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 4:52 PM

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I pictured you tying two sensors together like a pair of shoes and throwing them into a tree

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https://tenor.com/2J6O.gif

Tenor

static schooner Jan 31, 2023, 4:55 PM

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My Weatherflow Sky (detects wind, rain, etc.) is on the top of a big flagpole

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 4:55 PM

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nice. I want a large pole. 🙂

static schooner Jan 31, 2023, 4:56 PM

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no flag, just the unit attached to the top. It's telescoping, so I can sorta easily lower it when the batteries need to be changed

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mostly hidden behind a big stand of bamboo

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 4:57 PM

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I don't have a nice way of running cables outside and I would want to put my SDR out there but oh well. not a real need in my life

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there is like a pole someone installed for a satellite dish out there that I thought would be neat but no real way to do cables nicely

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I need some of that wireless power

static schooner Jan 31, 2023, 5:12 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/nikola-tesla-electricity-nikola-tesla-tesla-electricity-god-gif-25756523

Tenor

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 5:12 PM

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I could get it straight from the street

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https://tenor.com/bzVBq.gif

Tenor

shrewd veldt Jan 31, 2023, 5:13 PM

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Stand next to a tesla coil and you too can be wirelessly charged

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 5:16 PM

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https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-2022/

finite atlas Jan 31, 2023, 5:45 PM

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i've seen that one already, WD/HGST really make quality drives

forest edge Jan 31, 2023, 5:48 PM

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finite atlas Jan 31, 2023, 5:52 PM

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2 fps

static schooner Jan 31, 2023, 5:55 PM

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🐢

forest edge Jan 31, 2023, 5:55 PM

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need to figure out browser mod

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 6:46 PM

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I have to redo it all because bltouch cable is short. 😦

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oh well

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 7:08 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-sweating-nervous-excited-hot-gif-25823729

Tenor

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 7:15 PM

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have to wait for cable. 🙂

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08G8B23L7 says thursday, wooo

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maybe Sovol will have replied by then, probably not

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 7:19 PM

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Just make thine own my son

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 7:20 PM

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don't want it to look like yours

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just joking ❤️ I probably have the connectors to do everything but I don't have a nice long ribbon cable 🙂

forest edge Jan 31, 2023, 7:21 PM

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browser mod is pretty slick for these things

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 7:24 PM

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night zodiac just joking ❤️ I probably have the connectors to do everything but I don't have ...

Multiple cables, painters tape or crimp tube

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 7:24 PM

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https://tenor.com/bzpsT.gif

Tenor

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 7:24 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/david-disgusting-disgust-shittscreek-gif-15625525

Tenor

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 7:25 PM

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show me your nest

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just joking

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I'm sure you tidied it up after that last incident

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https://tenor.com/bnm0y.gif

Tenor

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 7:26 PM

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Screenshot_2023-01-31-20-26-18-36_3aea4af51f236e4932235fdada7d1643.jpg

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 7:27 PM

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haha, you did

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nice

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much gooder

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 7:27 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/tell-me-im-tellmeim-gif-23870680

Tenor

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 7:27 PM

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do you have a before pic

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If I scroll up a couple of weeks, I could probably find it

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 7:28 PM

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Dirty girl

drowsy wedge Jan 31, 2023, 7:29 PM

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I just want to share my excitement with people who will understand lol upgrading my dads place to add IP cams and put in drops for an office, when I removed the trim I found old unused conduit. Guess this place had an old vacuum system

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Time saved = priceless

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 7:29 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-free-real-estate-eyebrow-gif-13024071

Tenor

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 7:34 PM

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ahh, yes

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page 88

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/397426163649216512/1053757723885453343/rn_image_picker_lib_temp_28a094a0-106c-4c3a-96c0-7d3ad74dd963.jpg

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/397426163649216512/1054072756897071174/IMG_20221218_172833.jpg

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setting that as my phone's wallpaper

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with "Just make thine own my son" as a quote in fancy writing

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 7:35 PM

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LOL

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Going straight to the spank bank you say

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NutButton

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 7:37 PM

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wait, do you do the same thing as me? bring the printer to the kitchen to work on it so you actually have space?

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gf was not impressed, this weekend, while she was trying to cook dinner

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how was I supposed to know that we were going to eat food that day

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/s

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I seent you, TheLobster

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and we will not forget

thorny nova Jan 31, 2023, 7:40 PM

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shhh

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 7:41 PM

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https://tenor.com/bnACs.gif

Tenor

thorny nova Jan 31, 2023, 7:41 PM

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Can't a man missclick in peace

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 7:49 PM

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Kitchen is great place

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It's my second office

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Whenever I have kids home

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 7:52 PM

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my kitchen has a lot of light and the barstools give me a nice height to see things. 🙂

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my office is a disaster at the moment

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someone really tore it up

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storage room is pretty clean at the moment though

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https://tenor.com/EAkM.gif

Tenor

clever mortar Jan 31, 2023, 8:09 PM

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https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/01/how-to-control-your-smart-home-without-yelling-at-a-dumb-voice-assistant/

Ars Technica

How to control your smart home without yelling at a dumb voice assi...

You can have nice, automated things without learning how to shout at speakers.

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 8:10 PM

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thanks Purdy

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 9:15 PM

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clear ferry Hw raid is fine for boot mirrors, seldom see it used for anything else these day...

Huh? Raid setups are still everywhere, it's just the last few years with NVMe that things are moving away from them. idk why I'd shove zfs on my CPU and ignore my raid card's capabilities.

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I'd lose hw parity calculation and the cache on my RAID card would be used way less optimally with ZFS.

shrewd veldt Jan 31, 2023, 9:30 PM

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Unless you have spares of the exact same RAID card, the odds of the data on the drives being usable when the card eventually fails is very low

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Give me an HBA and md raid or ZFS any day

clever mortar Jan 31, 2023, 9:31 PM

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In a commercial setting, I'll take hardware mirroring... but then I'll have spare hardware and the ability to get a replacement is trivial

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At home... yeah, software RAID of some form is easier

finite atlas Jan 31, 2023, 9:34 PM

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prisma briar Huh? Raid setups are still everywhere, it's just the last few years with NVMe th...

atx is on the bleeding edge of things, not on thr government "bleeding edge"

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 9:35 PM

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shrewd veldt Unless you have spares of the *exact same RAID card*, the odds of the data on th...

I've got two spares and my RAID card is super-available on eBay.

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I've only tested one of the spares now that I think about it though

finite atlas Jan 31, 2023, 9:36 PM

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how much cache does a normal raid card have?

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 9:36 PM

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I think these have 512m or 1g on them

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 9:37 PM

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prisma briar Huh? Raid setups are still everywhere, it's just the last few years with NVMe th...

Idk, i install thousands of servers every year, can only tell you what I see

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 9:37 PM

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Yea, mine have 512MB on them.

finite atlas Jan 31, 2023, 9:37 PM

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prisma briar I think these have 512m or 1g on them

i think my zfs ~20gb ram cache and 512gb nvme l2 cache has the edge in that case

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no additional cost

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 9:38 PM

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The cost is running all the RAID calculations on the CPU.

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Which, if you've got the spare power for it, go for it

clever mortar Jan 31, 2023, 9:39 PM

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For a mirror the overhead is irrelevant

finite atlas Jan 31, 2023, 9:39 PM

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which has next to no impact on my system
the biggest cpu consumer is the compression

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 9:39 PM

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But I'm in the middle of pairing everything down to one box

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 9:39 PM

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clever mortar For a mirror the overhead is irrelevant

I'm running RAID 5

clever mortar Jan 31, 2023, 9:39 PM

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Even on RAID5 or similar the overhead on modern hardware is ... irrelevant

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 9:40 PM

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I'm running RAID 5 on a 11 year old server

finite atlas Jan 31, 2023, 9:40 PM

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i run raidz1 (pretty much raid 5 with 1 spare) on my desktop computer from 8 years

clever mortar Jan 31, 2023, 9:40 PM

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I've run software RAID50 for some "not small" setups and the CPU overhead has been irrelevant for at least the last decade

finite atlas Jan 31, 2023, 9:42 PM

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hardware raid has died out since good software raid has been available and a lot of the market has moved to ssd's

shrewd veldt Jan 31, 2023, 9:47 PM

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prisma briar I'm running RAID 5 on a 11 year old server

You'd probably save more money by buying a modern machine that has better performance and doesn't draw 11-year-old-server amounts of power

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 9:48 PM

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finite atlas hardware raid has died out since good software raid has been available and a lot...

Not denying that, I just think for such a simple setup on old hardware zfs vs hw raid + lvm is pretty irrelevant. No modern system should be deploying like this anymore.

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 9:49 PM

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shrewd veldt You'd probably save more money by buying a modern machine that has better perfor...

I've been considering trying to find something. The only things I'm really running on it anymore are HA, pfSense, and some iSCSI targets. It's only pulling about 130w idle though so I'm not that worried about it.

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I was going to try pulling some of the RAM from it and see if that meaningfully lowers idle load.

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Although maybe not, since it's got 6x16GB, not the 12x8GB I thought it had.

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It's definitely drawing way less power now than 3x nodes running ceph was, lol.

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I've got a second box set up to boot every morning, stay on until backups start from my main server, then wait for backups to finish before shutting off again.

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 9:59 PM

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My dl380 gen9 with 4 pcie cards, 8 internal drives and zfs pools running across a couple of dozen drives draw average of 100w currently

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With about 50 containers, and 6 vms

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Including my kubernetes lab

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:00 PM

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I've got 8 spinners and 3 SSDs in this server

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And a 10Gb nic

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:01 PM

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I have 8 SSDs internally, plus 8 ssds externally, and 24 spinners

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Gonna add 20 more soon

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:01 PM

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I quit storing all my linux ISOs so I don't really need all the space I had anymore

forest edge Jan 31, 2023, 10:01 PM

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@tidal bronze animated backgrounds run on this little thing too lol

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:01 PM

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Yeah, dual 10g direct connect to my lab box plus 6x1g NICs for the production

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:01 PM

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I've got like 40TB just sitting there right now because I can't justify actually putting it in a box

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:02 PM

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I'm adding around 150TB of spinners

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:03 PM

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I've got about 75TB of disk now but <10TB actually in use.

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:03 PM

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I have about 75 that is 80% full

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:04 PM

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That's about where I was before I dumped all my media and quit hosting Plex

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:04 PM

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Just my lab systems eat around 6TB storage at any given time

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:04 PM

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I've got lab equipment at work, I don't need it at home anymore

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:04 PM

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Production is about 3

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:04 PM

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That's the main reason I got rid of my Ceph setup, I didn't need a playground anymore.

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And it was expensive to maintain

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:04 PM

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I don't bother going into the office, nor maintain their equipment

finite atlas Jan 31, 2023, 10:05 PM

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prisma briar I've been considering trying to find something. The only things I'm really runni...

"only"
i'm pulling 25W with i7-6700, 32gb ram, 5x 1TB HDD, 512gb nvme
15W without the hdd's

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:05 PM

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I work for a decently-sized hosting company, we have datacenter staff to manage the actual physical equipment. I just connect over ipmi and image them and go from there.

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And if something is broken I detail it and throw in a ticket.

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:07 PM

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We have 35k servers just for labs that other people maintain, and about 5 racks in the local office that we maintain ourselves, still prefer my home lab

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They pay my power anyway

finite atlas Jan 31, 2023, 10:07 PM

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@prisma briar can you monitor your servers live power draw?

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:08 PM

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finite atlas <@182947598691336192> can you monitor your servers live power draw?

Yea, I've got a UPS with a gauge on it and I believe I can check it through the drac

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Not sure how accurate the drac one is, I've seen some weird readings from them on ones at work.

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:09 PM

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iLO is pretty accurate

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:09 PM

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Like a server claiming 5kW draw

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:09 PM

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No idea for drac

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:09 PM

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I've never used iLO, heard it's nice though

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:09 PM

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I'm so sorry

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:09 PM

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SuperMicro finally got their BMC's to a not shit state

finite atlas Jan 31, 2023, 10:10 PM

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prisma briar Yea, I've got a UPS with a gauge on it and I believe I can check it through the ...

try

echo "powersave" | tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor

also give powertop a shot
apt install powertop
powertop --auto-tune

if it makes an issue, just restart your machine and the changes are reverted

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:10 PM

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Still awful but functional enough to be fit for purpose

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:11 PM

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I still have only seen two supermicro servers in my life irl, even after 15 years in it across half a dozen countries and hundreds of DCs and thousands of customer sites

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:11 PM

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I've never physically touched them but I've maintained a few

finite atlas Jan 31, 2023, 10:11 PM

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i've seen one supermicro server, really well built but ancient hardware

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:11 PM

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I like their 36 drive chassis, but that's all good i can say

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Americans fap a lot over supermicro in other discords

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:13 PM

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We had 4 or 5 SuperMicros from when the Epyc first launched, it had game-breaking issues where sometimes they wouldn't power back on after a reboot without having the plug physically pulled.

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:13 PM

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Lol

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:13 PM

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That left a sour taste in my mouth regarding SuperMicro

finite atlas Jan 31, 2023, 10:13 PM

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qwuality

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:13 PM

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Yea, those never made it to production

finite atlas Jan 31, 2023, 10:13 PM

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wasnt 1st gen zen rushed hard?

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:13 PM

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First gen epyc was a nightmare anyway

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We had so many servers returned

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Due to psod and bsod

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If you ever made a VM larger than a chiplet it would crash

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The entire host

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:15 PM

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We were running Virtuozzo on them and they'd crap themselves hard after an hour or two of uptime. dmesg would spam with CPU cores halting/not responding, the system would sometimes just turn off, and whenever it did that it triggered the 'can't reboot until the DC goes and pulls the plug' issue so it made it take forever to try to troubleshoot.

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:16 PM

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Supermicro has no efuse ?

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Pathetic

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We've had that since g5

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:17 PM

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idk what you mean by efuse

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I think the fuses built into CPUs that serial numbers are burned into when I hear efuse

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:18 PM

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No, efuse in the power board

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Simulates power plug

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By tripping for 10s

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:19 PM

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Oh. idk. We have networked power strips on all of our production cabs, just not that lab cab.

night zodiac Jan 31, 2023, 10:19 PM

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you're going to make atx hook a keyboard up to his phone

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:19 PM

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And I use those if I need to kill power

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:19 PM

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I always thought smart PDUs would become the norm

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:19 PM

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They're pretty nice

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:19 PM

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Still only see it in 5% of installs

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Even if they buy them they never use them

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Outside of xSPs

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:20 PM

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We've got them set up to warn us about things like too high power draw that's caught overloaded cabs a couple times

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:21 PM

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What do you do per rack? Norm here is 400v32a X2 per rack the last decade

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Overload is seldom an issue

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Only very old sites do 230v32a x2

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:24 PM

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I'm not entirely sure what the bulk of them are, honestly. I don't really worry about cab layout/power draw except when I need to power boxes down to keep a circuit from falling over.

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Which is pretty rare/only when someone reaches out to me about it.

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:25 PM

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Never heard of that tbh

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:26 PM

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One of our cages was at a rather crappy/janky datacenter. They'd do crap like leave windows open with fans blowing in for ventilation. We moved away from them last year.

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None of the other datacenters we are with were anything like that

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:27 PM

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Lol

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:28 PM

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Apparently before I worked here they had a water line burst and it flooded the first few feet of our cage.

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:28 PM

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We are rolling out dual rack water cooled in old office buildings all across the country now, pretty cool, lots of buildings with extra power and connected to city water cooling lines

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Just roll in, connect, multiple in city small DCs

finite atlas Jan 31, 2023, 10:29 PM

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how much do they pay for the city water cooling ?

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:29 PM

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Nothing

finite atlas Jan 31, 2023, 10:29 PM

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district heating?

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:29 PM

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They provide heating

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Yes

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:29 PM

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That'd be cool to have

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:29 PM

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Servers add to the capacity

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:29 PM

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I fell my area is too sparse for that to work well though

finite atlas Jan 31, 2023, 10:30 PM

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District heating is neat tho

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less wasted energy

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:31 PM

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Is the water used for district heating drinkable? Do you just have a hot water tap from the city?

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That'd be cool, no hot water boiler

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:31 PM

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No it circulate to houses and apartments

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And keeps them warm

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Like the first HPC system i installed in 2007, 17 water cooled racks, spill heat keeps walkways clear of snow 7 months a year

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:34 PM

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I've always wanted to go spend a day or two working in one of our datacenters

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I'm 2000km from the closest one though

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I've yet to actually go in one.

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:38 PM

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I used to visit daily

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Now i hardly bother leaving home

forest edge Jan 31, 2023, 10:38 PM

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need more tweaking

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:39 PM

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I've been to the office once since Covid hit, to pick up some monitors so I could work from home.

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:40 PM

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I try to go once a month

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And bring at least one of the kids

prisma briar Jan 31, 2023, 10:41 PM

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I was the only person on my team working out of my location so I mostly just sat by myself at the office anyways

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Kinda hated it there

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Sitting in a blank white office by yourself all day is mind numbingly boring.

clear ferry Jan 31, 2023, 10:43 PM

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Lol