the-water-cooler

[last cedar]

Oh, my doctors must be from the midwest then 🤣

That is awful, hope she is better now

[clever mortar]

Mostly, she still has issues but they're minor

[last cedar]

Doctors told me I need to swap job, being an electrician (working above face height) is not a good thing

[clever mortar]

Given the state of the car... I'm impressed she was relatively unharmed. It was "slightly" re-shaped

[last cedar]

Well, same working positions as electrician

[last cedar]

Ooof, that doesn't sound good at all

We had a tow bar on ours, other car went under it

[clever mortar]

Ouch

[last cedar]

Not sure I can share pics as it had number plates visible

[forest edge]

what can you get from someone's plate number in sweden?

[keen bridge]

With their name and some other info I can get all of their financial information from the tax office. Legally

[forest edge]

ouch

[last cedar]

Other car doesn't have plate visable, I can try cropping something else out of it

[keen bridge]

Grafitti the image in paint? 😛

[forest edge]

racoon stamp it

[glacial knot]

then make sure to save it with layers

[last cedar]

That will do

[keen bridge]

Eek

Detachable tow bars are great

[night zodiac]

what is that finger pointing out?

[last cedar]

The car

[forest edge]

the wax job

[night zodiac]

"you see, this is where I think I was hit"

[last cedar]

Just incase you were not sure

[keen bridge]

"The section that goes in the direction the finger is pointing should not" 😛

[last cedar]

Far more convenient to leave them attached and have nonrear crash protection!

[glacial knot]

is that the octavia? 😂

[night zodiac]

the front fell off

[last cedar]

It was a fancy passat hybrid

was

[glacial knot]

oh rights, hybrids totale with a scratch

[last cedar]

But yeah, it could have been worse!

I have to swap doctors, but they need to write to the cars insurance people first

[glacial knot]

but it does look like the height of an upright raccooon

[last cedar]

So there is some light in the tunnel

[last cedar]

I could reach the top of the headlights

https://tenor.com/view/jinny-jinnytty-raccoon-jumping-yyjpogo-gif-21385118

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/lumberjack-monty-python-gif-9412011

[last cedar]

@clear ferry like that, but more "not" ok

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/its-not-fine-dan-levy-david-david-rose-schitts-creek-gif-20788559

[night zodiac]

I just got an idea. So I need a camera with its IR filter removed and an IR laser. I put the IR laser into my harry potter wand and I do gestures on different things throughout my house with a wand.

someone has to have done this already

or something like it 😛

ORRRRR, I go to Hogwarts and learn to do magic.

[glacial knot]

Wiimote

[night zodiac]

yeah, but how does it know where the remote is, it would just have an idea of the movements, right?

I have a gesture sensor here somewhere

[glacial knot]

it does have an IR receiver, so you could put up some beacons so it knows where it is. And motion plus ones should be good enough to recognize your gestures

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/15v2.gif

[night zodiac]

but LASER BEAMS 😛 jk

[glacial knot]

afaik the "sensor bar" is just two IR sources

and original wiimote just did everything based the IR sensor

only with motion plus did it gain actual motion sensors

[night zodiac]

neat

I never had a wii myself but played them a bit at friends and such

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/gi-gif-4408289

You need to drink more

[night zodiac]

I ditched class one time and played tiger woods golf for a few hours after eating some mushrooms

that's one of my wii memories but I have 0 memory of the sensor bar

[clear ferry]

the best game I have ever played was on the wii

[night zodiac]

the tiger wolds golf was really great to pass around with friends

[glacial knot]

yea, yea. pass your club around 😉

[clear ferry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VxuMIrm_e8

fuck I have played that game so many hours

[night zodiac]

o.O

rhythm game, lol

[clear ferry]

me and the wife have laughed our asses off

[night zodiac]

have you played beatsaber?

[clear ferry]

nope

[night zodiac]

or seen it, at least

seent it?

[clear ferry]

nope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vElVT_ql2gQ

[night zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNUlkF4oMO4 Here is my buddies youtube, he makes maps. I would not click if you are sensitive to light changes.

[last cedar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/693583922717523988/1067056180750458961/FB_IMG_1674396335256.jpg

[night zodiac]

your rabbit game looks like an OG form of beat saber, lol

[static schooner]

sea meat 🙂

[finite atlas]

ah yes the classic, i loved that game

[clear ferry]

I have all of them

I love anything Raving Rabbids

[finite atlas]

i only had that part, and the game where you ran around with a shopping card collecting raccoon stuff, trash

[forest edge]

I love how all these rpi based products come out when the rpi is like unobtainable

[last cedar]

There has to be a demand!

[forest edge]

idiots forking out scalping costs to run klipper i'm sure

[last cedar]

Probably a conspiracy by raspberry farmers to sell more raspberries

[forest edge]

like cotton candy shaped doormats on a rainy day?

[static schooner]

Raspberry Pies in stock, $10!

Not sure if it would be better or worse than a potato

[last cedar]

One fooled (by cotton candy), twice as interested to try it

[forest edge]

oh my steam shot arrived. time to see just how useful this thing is lol

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/the-what-smile-whut-weird-stare-gif-16592004

Oh, a steam cleaner thing?

I was thinking like a steam powered cannon type thing and I got excited

[night zodiac]

I discovered english mustard isn't the same as american mustard so I ordered some english mustard in both power and liquid form. yummy.

it's like horseradish mustard

[forest edge]

lol yea one of those bathroom or surface cleaner things

[last cedar]

I should probably get one!

FLOOFFFFF

[static schooner]

I just got fingerprints on my screen - thanks a lot!

remote tummy rubs

[keen bridge]

That cat looks like it's been through the fluffing cycle on a tumble dryer

[forest edge]

Name it Mop

[finite atlas]

absolute gorgeous unit

[young sigil]

There's an ir universal remote version https://www.amazon.com.au/Wand-Company-Kymera-Remote-Control/dp/B002SJKWZ4

[night zodiac]

hell yeah

[young sigil]

Official site: https://www.thewandcompany.com/kymera-wand/

[forest edge]

I wouldn't get the bissel hand held one like i did. the tank is too small and the ergonomics is not really best for any other position than using it like a car wash or something

the steam part of it works like a charm tho. just rethinking i should have gotyten one of those roll around versions or something instead

[night zodiac]

I got one a couple of weeks ago that I mentioned for my carpet. worked out

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077S6KQ88/

[clear ferry]

that's a lot of arabic and hebrew in one line

[forest edge]

nice that pops out for a hand held unit but from what I learned really quick with this bissel one, if you hold it at the wrong angle you end up spitting out all the water really quick lol

[night zodiac]

oh no, haha

I didn't have any water leaks at a few weird angles

other than one it heats up at the start

but after it is all HSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

it is just steam

[forest edge]

i might just return this oen and get this https://www.homedepot.com/p/Poulan-PRO-PP270-Portable-Power-Steam-Cleaner-with-Steam-Mop-Attachment-PP270/311250686

not sure how often i'll actually use it tho

[night zodiac]

I remember my parents having a bissel steam cleaner in like 2001 or 2002 and it looks very much the same

as the one you posted above

I think they were on tv and such

[forest edge]

https://www.amazon.com/Bissell-Hard-Surface-Cleaner-39N7A-39N71/dp/B001EYHAGS/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=bissell+steam+cleaner&qid=1674513055&sr=8-3

[night zodiac]

I think the one you just posted is actually for catching ghosts

[forest edge]

it sucks for long use lol

[night zodiac]

welp, snuck another in there

[static schooner]

Got some product design folks in there...

🤔

[forest edge]

sound about right

[static schooner]

I guess somehow part of it broke off and landed in the middle of England?

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/bXqbI.gif

[forest edge]

well the broke off part is pretty accurate lol

[forest edge]

@umbral cliff wtf you all still have Kmarts?

[umbral cliff]

Yes? Same with target they're not owned by anything American

[forest edge]

let me see if the US has any left

oh still 20 lingering. i thought they were dead

[umbral cliff]

Was a joint venture between Coles and the American company that owned your Kmart's. Then ours became entirely Australian run

[night zodiac]

https://tenor.com/bYM1L.gif

[forest edge]

apparently there is one in IL

[umbral cliff]

Logo here for Kmart

Oh also the targets here don't have a supermarket inside unlike American ones

[forest edge]

not all of them had that

[night zodiac]

I don't think you're on the latest infos sonoma, I think there has been far more RIPs

I just got lost in a google wormhole for a bit

[forest edge]

on locations? i just did a quick g search and it listed locations for 2023

tho this article claims only 3 locations

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/shopping/2022/04/11/kmart-store-closings-2022-final-stores/7274962001/

[night zodiac]

yeah, that is what I was about to quote, lol

I went like one time when I was a kid

[forest edge]

i had just gone off this site lol https://www.scrapehero.com/location-reports/Kmart-USA/

[night zodiac]

in the bad neighborhood of las vegas and it was dirty, lol

scarperhero, lol. yeah

autogenerated nonsense

[forest edge]

figured it had to be partially accurate

[forest edge]

https://youtube.com/shorts/vvnmaEl0gyI?feature=share

[night zodiac]

backwards?

youtube shorts are dangerous

careful, you can lose an hour and then 4

I've been avoiding them for a bit now and been a lot more productive, lol

[night zodiac]

omg, 22 minutes

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge did you 3D print anything today?

[static schooner]

I will never be able to look at a fish again without thinking of 'sea meat'

[glacial knot]

but will you think of 🦫 as meat or sea meat?

[forest edge]

nah i haven't printed anything in the last few days. got a few things made but haven't gotten around to installing them yet

[tidal bronze]

Juuurst checking

[forest edge]

getting the itch are you?

[tidal bronze]

You think?

[forest edge]

it's ok, you can be honest

[tidal bronze]

Nopes. Just messing as usual. That plane left some time ago.

[forest edge]

ok but you are missing out. https://www.etsy.com/listing/909888954/3d-word-shape-you-suck-3d-printable

[tidal bronze]

Nopes. Oh the amount of time, space and money wasters......

[forest edge]

space? waste what space?

[tidal bronze]

Space.

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/in-space-national-space-day-dark-universe101-spacey-swirling-colors-gif-21568484

[tidal bronze]

I think, too many flights for 4 days. I am tired. 🤣

[forest edge]

i dunno how to can stand it

here you go. so you can 3d print while on the plane lol https://imgur.com/gallery/JEtLZ2p

even found a useable 3d print for @umbral cliff for his utopia world where he has to walk his groceries home every day https://files.cults3d.com/uploaders/15345328/illustration-file/d713e776-db41-4b6e-809b-f9c0c6ad9777/1-Bag-Holder.jpg

[tidal bronze]

Huh groceries every day? Inatacart must be happy.

[forest edge]

no cars allowed. don't think instacart would work lol

maybe there would be an on-foot version. insta*slip or something

[tidal bronze]

Is it a challenge?

[forest edge]

https://giphy.com/gifs/success-Zu6AATBpCeUzm

[last cedar]

Tyvm!

[last cedar]

She does, yeah 🙂

[tidal bronze]

Cedric is OK with this?

[forest edge]

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/09/0964ed30b697536890636f593f23cf7e9f2d0127409f22aa24d717f35ea18c2a.jpg

[clear ferry]

whenever I look at vmware logs

I wonder if true is less true than True which is less true than TRUE

is that like -v vs -vv vs -vvv

also, I hate the inconsitency of PascalCase and camelCase in kubernetes

[dusky plank]

you have 20 minutes UPS 😡

[clear ferry]

Even though we have 11 total disks in the draid2:4:1, only six are used in each data stripe—and one in each physical stripe. In a world of perfect vacuums, frictionless surfaces, and spherical chickens, the on-disk layout of a draid2:4:1 would look something like this:```

I lolled audibly

[dusky plank]

can you lol inaudibly ?

[clear ferry]

yes

when I only chuckle like this

https://tenor.com/bc2F9.gif

[dusky plank]

lol, they arrived at 12:30

sorry, audibly of course

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/uKMy.gif

[dusky plank]

I'm new to this, do I change pin puk and key at first? I am confusion

[clear ferry]

hmmm ?

https://www.yubico.com/no/setup/

[dusky plank]

yep I just saw that so no change

[last cedar]

He doesn't have a lot of choice in the matter, we did the bank heist together and I know his secrets

[dusky plank]

there are a lot of pin and oath and whatever options, oof fun times ahead

[dusky plank]

in regards to
https://palant.info/2023/01/23/bitwarden-design-flaw-server-side-iterations/
am I wrong that there is no point in adjusting the iterations when you self host vaultwarden?

600.000 makes my phone take 5 seconds 😅

[clear ferry]

Probably not

[fair salmon]

Ultimate smarthome energy kit 😛

[night zodiac]

lol

orders one

I already have a little collection of coin cells but I wish I knew they had multipacks, Idk why I didn't think to look

[fair salmon]

I've never thought of multipack too, until i saw it in a GROCERY 😄

[night zodiac]

lol, do they have a date on them

[fair salmon]

have not opened it yet

let me check

[night zodiac]

I am just curious. Something like that where I live could have been there for 5 years. 😛

[static schooner]

you quickly learn about battery multipacks when you search on Amazon

[fair salmon]

they dont have date on them, not on bottom, neither on top

[night zodiac]

they never show up for coincells for me

date doesn't matter too much, just curious, haha

probably because I always search a very specific model of coin cell

[static schooner]

there are a lot of counterfeit batteries out there, so comments are often whether they're real or not, expired, etc.

[night zodiac]

I talked about it a few days ago but I discovered lifepo4 batteries and they seem super cool for my tinkering

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09KCG1Y4N/

[glacial knot]

sad vegetarian noises

[static schooner]

nothing wrong with a head of iceberg lettuce being your therapy vegetable

[clear ferry]

Bring me a whole cow to the table

I'll carve off what I want and ride the rest home

[clear ferry]

@shadow prawn @dusky plank @glacial knot @finite atlas is this true?

https://v.redd.it/vltbuwm520ea1

[dusky plank]

probably this guy
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41d9CfmTFbL._AC_SY780_.jpg

[night zodiac]

Brian May looking rough

[finite atlas]

not 100%, but roughly 95%

Der Struwwelpeter is a great example

[static schooner]

between that and the whole Krampus thing, there's some serious darkness lurking in German storytelling 🙂

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/period-gif-20866508

[night zodiac]

I was reading 3d files named with German words and they were making me giggle

Knopf

that word makes me joyous, for some reason

Deckel

that's a good one too

[clear ferry]

antibabypill

[night zodiac]

e

don't forget the extra sauce at the end.

[dusky plank]

pillepalle

[last cedar]

Have you ever heard/ seen anything this cute?

https://youtube.com/shorts/gU-mzusRJ2Y?feature=share

[keen bridge]

Is it a dolphin or a cat?

[clear ferry]

yikes

I'm getting the hang of kubernetes very fast now

I'm writing entire deployements by hand just by description of what they want

this is actually fun

also, I'm probably sending your package tomorrow @last cedar if you need any diy stuff tell me, I have a ton of sensors and esps laying around

and a bunch of buck converters too come think of it 🤔

https://tenor.com/9frq.gif

[night zodiac]

hrmmm

why you in my amazon history

[clear ferry]

Good thing I'm not in your PornHub History

https://tenor.com/view/yikes-david-rose-david-dan-levy-schitts-creek-gif-20850879

fat norwegian nerd with glasses

Oh yeah, that's the stuff

https://tenor.com/view/you-tube-like-and-subscribe-ted-gif-10475017

[night zodiac]

https://share.busheezy.dev/i/cHL4eP I'm feeding my dog atm.

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/koth-king-of-the-hill-hank-hank-hill-tell-you-what-gif-22194602

[night zodiac]

🙂

[static schooner]

that looks like an automation to plump up a turkey

[night zodiac]

FORCE FEED DOG

we were using the special trays for slowing down your dog eating their food but it was rubbing against his chin and looked ouchy

not made for my dog's face, I guess

[tidal bronze]

Let's see how goes

[forest edge]

whats it suppose to do other than tell you the time and answer questions about ben franklin?

[tidal bronze]

Dashboardify

This damn thing better work. Got 6 of them. 🤣

[forest edge]

interesting. didn't think those lenovo clocks had the hardware to even consider running anything like that

[tidal bronze]

Just played some YouTube videos pretty good. OK speaker as well.

All I want is more granular control for guests. Tired of getting texts "can you please make this light stay off" 🤣

[forest edge]

"trying to shower but bathroom keeps going dark"

[tidal bronze]

Guest mode disables all guest bathroom automations. Never again.

These are not cutting it anymore.

[night zodiac]

need a 5?

[tidal bronze]

Labeling looks like crap, they come off after some time. Need a better solution.

[night zodiac]

@forest edge have you put blankets on the cattle. It's going to be chilly.

[forest edge]

not my cattle

https://youtu.be/_1evNLjKTcc

and here i thought oshkosh was a kids clothing store

[night zodiac]

did you put blankets on your Badass Military Vehicle?

[fair salmon]

Aren't you afraid that the dog won't see you as the leader of the pack because you're not personally feeding him food, but a machine?

[night zodiac]

That's a bunch of bs

[forest edge]

lol guards the pet feeder and attacks the owner

[night zodiac]

not sure if joking or not

[forest edge]

grabs onto your bed sheets and drags you out of the house in the middle of the night and places the pet feeder against your pillow

[static schooner]

my cat has finally discovered that food appears in the dish without my intervention, but she doesn't check until I go in the kitchen 🤷

eventually she will determine that I'm obsolete, but may need further evolution

[night zodiac]

does your cat not have the best hearing?

or just hasn't clicked yet

[static schooner]

she hears fine

[night zodiac]

it will click soon

[static schooner]

probably that, I can hear it dispense food from my bedroom

[finite atlas]

ah yes, the typical american city car

[forest edge]

that be awesome

[green inlet]

I mean the hummer ultimately made it to the civilian streets in the US.

[forest edge]

in the worst possible way

[static schooner]

Driving around the wild streets of...LA

[mellow parcel]

https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/5dcdab5/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1572x1048+0+0/resize/1760x1174!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Flegacy%2Fsites%2Fkunc%2Ffiles%2F202002%2FDozer.jpg nothing to see here carry on

[tidal bronze]

I think I like this. Fully Kiosk working like a charm.

[forest edge]

shh, no one tell him the same functionality could have been done for cheaper and easier

[finite atlas]

but not as pritti

[tidal bronze]

Yep $20 for display and cast speaker. I am fine that.

[forest edge]

is that a pack of a gum or something?

[tidal bronze]

No lol. Terea smart core sticks

[forest edge]

wtf is that lol

wait, google came up with tobacco stuff

[tidal bronze]

Yep. Heat not burn IQOS illuma

[forest edge]

wtf why can't you just smoke a cig like a normal person lol

is that still considered vaping?

[tidal bronze]

No

[forest edge]

I need to stop myself but whatever that your doing sounds too sci fi

[tidal bronze]

I think US relaunch is in June

Enough playing. Gotta cook. 😆

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/_ichxZ065YE

[night zodiac]

skal

[forest edge]

my kind of race https://9gag.com/gag/aLvMWQv

[queen otter]

I saw a video on asking ChatGPT how to repair a Mac. It was horrible. You would break your computer more trying to use it.

[prisma briar]

It's pretty cool but pretty stupid.

I was trying to have it write a script and it was just making up files that don't exist

[night zodiac]

that's how I write scripts

[prisma briar]

I wanted a script to change a hostname and notify certbot so it'd update it's SSL, it popped out basically this: sed -i 's/$hostname=.*/$hostname=$new_hostname;/' /path/to/some/definitely/non-existent/php/file

[forest edge]

what I find disturbing is the amount of students using some form of AI to do their homework is already pretty high and continues to increase.

[umbral cliff]

Give students a way to cheat and they’ll take it, whether it’s AI or whatever

[forest edge]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbestechcouncil/2020/04/29/technology-is-on-the-rise-while-iq-is-on-the-decline/?sh=5c3c6b0b1035

[umbral cliff]

When I was at uni a bunch of students were using ghost writers
AI just means they don’t have to pay anyone for the same thing

[forest edge]

pay anyone?

[umbral cliff]

Just need better methods to detect cheaters/ better assessments to avoid them being useful

[forest edge]

was that a tradition?

[umbral cliff]

Ghost writers cost money

AI is free

[forest edge]

I've seen such shit in movies, even while growing up but never once ever met anyone on on either side of that

[umbral cliff]

I’ve seen a few students suffer academic misconduct penalties for using those services

Heard about even more

[forest edge]

they should just unplug the internet lol

[umbral cliff]

That won’t help, these are assignments it happens on

Or some even have people come in to sit their exams

[forest edge]

i dunno, no internet. maybe they would get bored enough to actually go themselves lol

certianly won't be spending so much time indoors lol

[umbral cliff]

Oh you mean disconnect the internet entirely? How will that work for people who live at home….

[forest edge]

live at home?

[umbral cliff]

Whilst at uni, living at home. Yes

Or living off campus

[forest edge]

you know the internet wasn't always a thing right?

[umbral cliff]

Yes

But you just said unplug the internet

And I thought you meant just disconnect during exams, then thought you meant for an entire uni campus

[forest edge]

i meant for everyone lol

[umbral cliff]

But also, ghost writing predates internet. People used to (and still do) advertise by handing out fliers, people text/ call/ etc to organise

Then it gets done

[forest edge]

like the purge, but instead disconnect the net for like 3 months

that must be more of an au thing

[umbral cliff]

Yeah I prefer being able to WFH where able, or connect with friends and family given they’re not in the same city as me

[forest edge]

i never heard of it being so widley used

[umbral cliff]

Main group thats here use +1 numbers and are based in the USA

It’s why the uni couldn’t do anything

[forest edge]

makes you wonder just how many would die after the first week of like a global net outage lol

[umbral cliff]

Given how many depend on the internet for food deliveries/ etc, or for some its their only way to socialise with people who share like interests, a lot

Let alone those who want to stay WFH to look after family

Or the major losses suffered by companies who can’t sell their stuff and the following amount of people who don’t have a job and don’t have an income

[forest edge]

all i hear is social improvement

[umbral cliff]

So when you can’t get fuel for your car to drive 100ft you’re going to be happy?

[forest edge]

can't get fuel for my car?

[umbral cliff]

Guess how fuel is distributed, using the internet

[forest edge]

what world do you live in that, that part relies on the net?

[umbral cliff]

Companies delivering fuel do

Companies refining the fuel do

Logistics is all internet based

[forest edge]

companies would just shift back to the way they did it prior

not exactly earth breaking

[umbral cliff]

You assume the companies have plans to be able to shift back

It would take months to shift

[forest edge]

adapt or die

thats the way of life

[umbral cliff]

And they wouldn’t be adapting fast

[forest edge]

faster than you think

[umbral cliff]

Wouldn’t be able to get it working smoothly for a few months

[forest edge]

money moves mountains it would seem

[umbral cliff]

In that time there would be shortages

People scrambling to buy

Oh plus the whole issue of cards not working so people rushing banks to get cash

[forest edge]

smoothly? it's already a tried and proved method

there is no "beta test"

[umbral cliff]

And its now old

Shit has moved on

You don’t just flick a switch and everyone goes back to how it worked in the 80s

[forest edge]

all you are doing is comfirming the shear amount of people who would die with no net is scary lol

[umbral cliff]

It’s a major amount of effort

[umbral cliff]

Because the internet is becoming as essential as electricity and water and food at this point

[forest edge]

more so it would seem lol

[umbral cliff]

Hell even old crotchety folks like you use it

[forest edge]

how do you not see the sadness in that?

I would be fine without, I could even be fine without electricity lol

I wasn't born into the net dependent world you were

[umbral cliff]

Sadness in what? The internet enables me to work from home. To speak to my parents who live across the globe and share experiences immediately. To speak to friends easily who live ages away. To communicate and make new friends across the world. To make my life convenient and buy stuff without having to hope my local store has it in stock

[forest edge]

that your life depends so highly on something like that

[umbral cliff]

That doesn’t mean you have to be salty about new technologies coming

I don’t depend on having a constant internet connection, but it makes my life far easier

[forest edge]

wait wait

why you talking about new technologies lol

[umbral cliff]

Because you seem to be stuck in the 50s

So the internet is a new technology for you

[forest edge]

how would you know? you never been without

[scenic radish]

wtf even is this argument

[umbral cliff]

Except I have…. First half of my life was without internet

[forest edge]

not an argument

[scenic radish]

wtf even is whatever this is

[forest edge]

i call sus

[umbral cliff]

We didn’t need internet, my mum used dial up until about 2008 for work, then we had internet bundled for free with our cable TV, I still didn’t use it, only parents did

I didn’t know what youtube was until ~2012-2013

[mellow parcel]

you weren't one of the geeks eh

[forest edge]

mum whats a book

[scenic radish]

|| youchewb ||

[umbral cliff]

Nah more like my mum being annoyed about them having to pay extra to ship my books back to melbourne when we moved

Too heavy

Over the company allowance

[forest edge]

it has to be inevitable that something is gonna happen that will cause the internet to no longer be a thing, or at least something not so easily accessible

be nice to not have the world depend so highly on it to function

[scenic radish]

"the internet" isn't a singular thing though

[umbral cliff]

I was just not internet connected
Still a geek. Begged my parents to buy a copy of windows 7 when it first released so I could install it lol. On a DVD

[forest edge]

in referencing in the way it's used, it is

[umbral cliff]

All my research for tech stuff was done through magazines

[night zodiac]

Dubya Dubya Dubya

[umbral cliff]

But the reason the world depends on it is because it has enabled so much more than we could previously do

[forest edge]

some thing arguably more bad than good lol

[umbral cliff]

Hell you may hate WFH but its made many peoples lives easier. Made companies more efficient, instead of taking a day off to look after a sick child, they will wfh and still get work done whilst being at home

[glacial knot]

I was cautious after seeing Vista

[umbral cliff]

Then why are you here. If you think the internet has brought more bad then good, just disconnect it. Save you the money. Job done

[umbral cliff]

I loved vista. It always worked perfectly for me on my own laptop

[scenic radish]

i don't plan to go to back to an office ever

[umbral cliff]

Probably because it was a decent laptop

[mellow parcel]

and thats when you go linux

[forest edge]

you realize this stemmed from education right?

[mellow parcel]

or BEOS

[umbral cliff]

I’m 70/30, want a couple days in the office every now and then to socialise/ meet people/ etc. But want to do predominately wfh

[glacial knot]

Mine was new, but on the cheaper end

[umbral cliff]

Yes, and now you’re complaining about the internet generally

[glacial knot]

But it wasn't just performance

[forest edge]

complaining and pointing out a flaw is not the same thing

[scenic radish]

if my job wasn't so collaborative and client-facing, i'd probably think the same

[umbral cliff]

Yes, and you are complaining not just pointing out a flaw

You crossed the line ages ago when you said disconnect the internet for the world

[scenic radish]

technology bad

[glacial knot]

I work with hardware that I can't install at home o.0
And I like being in the office every now and then

[forest edge]

I think you just take anything that dosen't agree with your view as "complaining" lol

[umbral cliff]

Nope, pointing out a flaw is saying “Oh yeah flaw in how education relies on trust for everyone to do their work and allows assignments easily cheated with”
complaining is wanting to watch people die with the internet turned off and saying how its turned everything bad and its sad people rely on it

[forest edge]

this literally stemmed from students using ai to do their homework lol

how is that a complaint and not pointing out a flaw?

[umbral cliff]

No I said that was pointing out a flaw

You then turned the discussion into hur dur internet bad switch it off

[forest edge]

ok pick and choose then. 🤣

I think no net periods would be healthy for our society

[umbral cliff]

Except wildly dangerous with what it could damage. Just encourage a healthy balance. Like with alcohol

Encourage people to socialise, get out, walk instead of sit in front of a computer

[forest edge]

well having the world not be so dependent on the net would also be healthy lol

imagine convid with no net

we'd all die rotf

yet it certianly wasn't the first pandemic

[glacial knot]

nono, don't encourange people to socialism. D:

[tidal bronze]

Why walk?

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/BvikhSl1gC8

[tidal bronze]

This thing rocks. RTC camera feeds are lighting. Now to test for few weeks

[forest edge]

does it still have google assistant?

can it still be used as a alarm clock?

[tidal bronze]

Yep. Thinking of disabling the mic. Just a friendly UI. Didn't look at alarm clock. We don't use alarms.

[glacial knot]

it got a Qi charger as well, right?

or is that the small one?

[tidal bronze]

Comes with the Qi as well yep

Dim level is also great. No need to turn display off.

[forest edge]

so you gonna put one in every room?

is there a button i can press to call you like a butler?

[tidal bronze]

I was thinking only guest rooms. Wife wants one for cameras lol

[glacial knot]

I'll have to ask some colleagues to bring some when they come here from the US 😄
Couldn't find the V2 here

[static schooner]

The arrangement makes it look like you might have master bathroom and master toilet cameras

[tidal bronze]

Never expected cameras to be super responsive.

[forest edge]

shocked at that as well

those things were a black friday deal

I got the gen 1 because I liked the look better

think i paid 20 for it on BF as well lol

[tidal bronze]

Come to think of it didn't see any 5Ghz wifi ssids. Hmmm

Ita 19.99 at Lowes if you can find locally. Won't ship.

[forest edge]

14.99 here

[tropic dew]

https://nthitz.github.io/turndownforwhatjs/

[forest edge]

oh i guess they sell it without that qi charger

[tidal bronze]

I found some in SF and in Sacramento, getting a friend to pick few more up. Just in case. 😆

[static schooner]

Sheesh

[forest edge]

curious how it fairs running how you have it. cause there are alot of complaints about both the gen 1 and v2

[static schooner]

Looks like one available in Carlsbad

[glacial knot]

Lowes doesn't exist locally

[forest edge]

I was partially hesitant buying the one i did but wanted it regardless

[glacial knot]

oh, they are supposed to be 80$? That's interesting

[tidal bronze]

Look up the 15, less populated areas 😀

[umbral cliff]

There were many complaints so the only way they sell is cheap

[tidal bronze]

Where do you live?

[forest edge]

they are discontinued

[umbral cliff]

Well that makes even more sense

But I knew they were doing discounts even when they were being produced

[forest edge]

had tons of them during black friday lol

too bad you didn't discover it's usabailty prior to that @tidal bronze lol

[tidal bronze]

Well I am anti-ui for HA so never looked into any display solution. Then again less words with guests is the goal with these.

[forest edge]

guess the one up with these over like a tablet is not dealing with power issues

[tidal bronze]

Yep.

[umbral cliff]

It's why the Google pixel tablet looks interesting. Has a stand but can be taken off it, will make some interesting central tablet control

[tidal bronze]

Never needed a UI for day to day use. Only when running tests. Come to think of it even wife's phone has one widget with garage click.

[glacial knot]

Germany

[last cedar]

Awesome!

If you have any esp32 that can wofk with camera modules or work with ble, would be fantastic!

❤️ tyvm

[glacial knot]

Did google release the tablet? I'm not sure what the current state is with those

[umbral cliff]

They've teased it. Meant to be releasing this year

[tidal bronze]

If I find few more will let you know. Might head that way soon or will send with a colleague.

[glacial knot]

We almost constantly have visitors from MTV here, so there's some exchange. But yea, if you can find them that would be great

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/mtv-logo-classic-gif-5588797

[glacial knot]

nah, mountain view. Which apparently doesn't have any mountains in sight 😂

[last cedar]

False advertising

[tidal bronze]

Cedric got you distracted

This thing.....🤣

[forest edge]

because you went all tony stark lol

[glacial knot]

that's RDP, right? right?

[umbral cliff]

I see teams, outlook, excel, and onenote open. That thing would be hotter than the sun otherwise

[tidal bronze]

Anyone using FP1 sensors?

[forest edge]

you don't want to use that one

https://shop.everythingsmart.io/en-us/collections/everything-presence-one

thats the one you want

[tidal bronze]

Not using that one. But my mmwave sensors are getting triggered by roborocks

[forest edge]

I can't find the video but the same dude who makes that one I posted above did a compare with that aqura one and I swear he mentioned something about the fp1 detecting on mere motion

[static schooner]

As opposed to what?

[forest edge]

he's probably in this server. he does tons of HA type videos

[tidal bronze]

I am running 11 of those in my test. Gets triggered on forced heat and roborocks. Bummer.

[forest edge]

the diy one does more checks than just motion before triggering i believe

[static schooner]

The point of mmWave is not just motion detection

[forest edge]

right but the fp1 will trigger off just motion

[tidal bronze]

PIR has no issues. It's PIR 😆 issues is with mmwave.

The 2nd gen FP1 looked badass at CES

[static schooner]

'FP2'

WiFI, tho

[tidal bronze]

Plus mi home app

[static schooner]

Better form factor

Wish it was zigbee

[forest edge]

should be matter compat as well one would think

[tidal bronze]

I don't think zigbee can support all the additional zoning and counts etc. Looks like most of crunching is done off Device

[static schooner]

The FP1 works great for me sitting at my desk in my office, better than PIR

and just as fast at detection

Biggest annoyance is that it's wired

[tidal bronze]

Mmwave is the answer for sure. Yes 💯. I am running mmwave PIR combo. Some angles PIR faster. Overall it's almost the same.

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/Viqvx7hMMJs

[tidal bronze]

@static schooner do you run a FP1 close to the ground ?

Or is it desk height?

[tropic dew]

imagine arguing with youtube commenters

[forest edge]

hmm

no different than arguing with anyone else

[tropic dew]

makes sense.

except it's a public forum

[static schooner]

Desk height. Haven't seen a false activation yet

[glacial knot]

FP1?

[tidal bronze]

Do you run a robo vac?

[static schooner]

No

[glacial knot]

I should get one or two of those sensors... I currently pull the network traffic stats of my switch to see if I'm using the dock at my desk D:

[clear ferry]

Wow my internet is actually down

Good thing I have corporate mobile broadband

[forest edge]

happens to everyone. we'll look forward to you making some grand comment about how your network never goes down compared to "shitty american internet" in the future.

[glacial knot]

just tether the phone to the router 😂

might have done that before

I should check how hard it is to get a crop sim. I do have a spare LTE modem

[clear ferry]

Now we have gone too far

Man shot by dog in USA

[glacial knot]

it wasn't the boston dynamics dog though

[umbral cliff]

LOL

[clear ferry]

it's back anyway

was down for an hour or so

[umbral cliff]

Longer outage than anything I've had

[clear ferry]

third outage in the last 15 years

[umbral cliff]

Including my parents places in Aus, had 2 outages in the last 10 years. One was caused by a driver hitting a power pole lol

Oh I guess 3 if you include the outage when we transitioned to NBN because they had to physically change the cable coming across

[clear ferry]

you just have shitty infrastructure, it never goes down ?

trickle through broadband

😄

[tropic dew]

I used to get like 5kb/s on this copper line, now I get over 100mbit on the same copper line. crazy.

progress

[clear ferry]

I remember 100Mbit

https://tenor.com/wHOT.gif

[tropic dew]

yeah not quite

[clear ferry]

tbf, I've never had 100 at home

I went from 50\50 to 350\350

[glacial knot]

I wish I could get more than 50 up...

[umbral cliff]

Some areas have shitty infrastructure, me and my parents all lucked out on infrastructure

[clear ferry]

50\50 in 2007 350\350 in 2014

[tropic dew]

yeah don't ask what the up is

[umbral cliff]

Got the best options available

[glacial knot]

on 100Mbit copper? 16

[umbral cliff]

You can get 20 up on copper at least

[clear ferry]

laughs in all copper being pulled out of the ground

[glacial knot]

including the 500m runs of ethernet?

[tropic dew]

more like 40 up, testing it now

[umbral cliff]

Copper will never be pulled out here even if we go fibre, because some places (mainly rural farms) want some way for phone calls that doesn't depend on mobiles or satellite

[clear ferry]

all distribution copper is being pulled, and if you have xdsl today and it breaks they tell you to order fiber

[glacial knot]

40Up is okey. Not great, but not horrible

[umbral cliff]

I'm enjoying my 1000 down

[clear ferry]

when daddy atx helps you setup *arr

;_)

[glacial knot]

our phones are all over IP and don't rely on mobile or satellite o.0

yea, I have 1000/50

[clear ferry]

yeah, we moved to VoIP in 2005

satellite is pretty rare, mostly cabins

[glacial knot]

and didn't need no stinky atx helping to set up arr 😄

[umbral cliff]

Same for our home phones too, except if you live in the middle of nowhere you still want copper not want to rely on sat or mobile

[glacial knot]

you don't make sense

fiber carries the VoiP as well and relies on neither sat nor mobile

[umbral cliff]

Landline phones are done over IP

Middle of fucking nowhere will not get fibre

But they have copper

They want to keep analogue phones

[glacial knot]

you just said they'd still want copper, even if they got fiber

[umbral cliff]

Not swap to phones over IP over sat

[umbral cliff]

Even if aus got fibre places would keep it due to needing sat

[glacial knot]

there are no more analogue phones here 🤷 because it's all over IP

I thought you don't want sat? god, you are just confusing me now

[umbral cliff]

Only places that have analogue phones are where their only option is Sat

[clear ferry]

We don't even have desk phones in offices, it is all mobile 😄

[umbral cliff]

MIDDLE OF FUCKING NOWHERE

[clear ferry]

no stores have phones

[umbral cliff]

Thats where they have sat

They hate it

[clear ferry]

americans hate this one concept

[umbral cliff]

But its the only option

[umbral cliff]

The heck you able to ring stores then

[clear ferry]

we call their mobile desk

that calls all the phones

[glacial knot]

calling sucks either way

[umbral cliff]

So by stores you don't mean like a normal retail store?

[clear ferry]

yes

[umbral cliff]

Its either skype/ teams calls/ virtual landline number or use your own mobile (which I avoid lol)

[clear ferry]

yes

[umbral cliff]

Saying whats here

[clear ferry]

my volvo dealer, my mechanic, my local grocery store, the kindergarten

it is all mobile

[umbral cliff]

I have a landline at my desk, its still VoIP, its just not used at all. Only phones that ring are for spam calls

[glacial knot]

doesn't zoom do calls to normal numbers as well by now?

[clear ferry]

no desk phones

[umbral cliff]

Thats irritating if you need to ring someone and get reception

[clear ferry]

I've been doing calls to and from teams for 4 years already

[glacial knot]

most stores here have DECT handsets that people carry around, but still some base station somehwere in the building

[clear ferry]

@umbral cliff they have both direct numbers and reception numbers

all mobile

[umbral cliff]

That sounds annoying for someone to have to carry a phone around with them

[clear ferry]

everyone does already

it's their regular phone

[umbral cliff]

So staff have to use their personal phone for work

Yuck

[glacial knot]

lies! I know people that aren't allowed their phones at work

[clear ferry]

no

work pays their phones

and it is only connected during work hours

[umbral cliff]

That sounds extremely complicated vs just a single VoIP phone

[clear ferry]

not really, it is mostly automatic

[glacial knot]

just install this app and boom

[clear ferry]

people come into work, logs in, phone is automatically redirected

[umbral cliff]

And their work pays their personal phone 100% of the time?

[clear ferry]

usually yes

[umbral cliff]

I can't see a grocery store wanting to pay their workers phones, given about 10+ people could be able to answer the phone at one time

[clear ferry]

wheverer you need to be avaliable on phone

[glacial knot]

I use my corpa phone as primary phone 🤷

[clear ferry]

grocery store usually only the shift managers are on that ring

[umbral cliff]

Or say the retail store my partner works at, everyone could be on the store phone at any time

[clear ferry]

yeah, I have used my corp phone for 15 years now

work pays my phones, and my bills

[glacial knot]

I never see any bill

[clear ferry]

whenever i travel abroad, I just buy more data with corporate account

[umbral cliff]

My mum didn't have a personal phone until about 3 years ago, always had work before then since she first got a mobile in the 90s

[clear ferry]

yeah, see nothing here either

[umbral cliff]

Mum doesn't even buy more data, she can use as much as she wants and they'll pay it

Since she can be expected to tether too

[clear ferry]

we used to have that

now I have 15GB and I have to answer "yes" to extend it

[umbral cliff]

Lol

Only 15gb

[glacial knot]

I do have a private number next to the corp number, so I can keep that. But it's only really to re-authorize the messenger apps 😂

[clear ferry]

I had $600 after a weekend in prague once

😄

[umbral cliff]

My mum didn't have a personal phone or email address until 4 years ago, everything was work

[clear ferry]

when I went to the US in 2013 it was $9 per mb

that was fun

[umbral cliff]

Then decided she probably wants an australian number too

[umbral cliff]

In 2011 our singapore phone plans were $30/mb in the cheapest overseas roaming destinations

[clear ferry]

LOL

[glacial knot]

yea, when I didn't have the corp phone yet, i just had my colleague with corp phone host a hotspot all day 😂

[umbral cliff]

Granted unlimited data for $5/month

Plan dated from 2004

(Local data)

[umbral cliff]

Do you not have plenty of mobile data or wifi at work for your phone?

[glacial knot]

we had wifi, not officially but I had the password 😄

nah, when we traveled

no need to pay for canadian roaming when we can have corp pay^^

[clear ferry]

I have 15GB a month, but I usually use 30+ since I have twin card in my car

and my kids roam in the backseat

[umbral cliff]

I have 180 on my phone plan, price bumped up $2/month last year due to inflation, they threw in an extra 100gb for it lol

I never run out

[umbral cliff]

For us we have wifi, current office im in is just WPA2 password for any device, main office is just your usual username/password and logs in

Though unsure how it works now with passwordless...

[clear ferry]

with certificate based auth that should be easy

best regards someone who did a 802.1x auth PoC as his apprenticeship degree in 2006

[glacial knot]

I tried to find out what the limit on my corp plan is. I think it's actually unlimited D:

[umbral cliff]

Unsure how they do it, since we don't use certs for wifi

[clear ferry]

our corp plan is limited by american bullshit, no 5G and only 15G a month, because in the US the worker ants have no rights

😄

all of europe goes grumble grumble

[umbral cliff]

Ouch that sucks

Don't think you can get a phone plan from any of the big 3 here anymore without 5G included

[glacial knot]

that wifi was on the secondary DSL line we had in a quarantine network. So it just went WPA2-PSK
At my current workplace we have a guest wifi as well. Also WPA2-PSK I think, and a bunch of QR-Codes with an NFC tag to distirbute the credentials glued to the wall 😮

[clear ferry]

this is a special plan with tmobile europe that we don't even have in norway

[umbral cliff]

Weird

At work I have access to the standard 100/100 internet plan (fine for about 10 people in an office who mostly use client network anyway)

[glacial knot]

Our US plan is actually better than the EU one becuase it gets to roam over every net, while we only get free picks outside of our home country D:

[clear ferry]

LOL

[glacial knot]

wdym. you don't have symmetric gigabit at work? o.0

[umbral cliff]

Its 10 people in a sub office

Who mostly use client network anyway

[glacial knot]

what's weird about it?

[clear ferry]

our office net sucks too, think it is like 500\500

I'm so used to 10G internet at customer sites

[umbral cliff]

Theres no need for the secondary office to pay extra for useless speed

[glacial knot]

tbh. I don't even know how well the office is connected. I'm only ever on wifi

[umbral cliff]

Think we have 1000/1000 at the main fofice

*office

[umbral cliff]

Just that your guest wifi is so open lol

[clear ferry]

I need to keep an eye out to see if 10G drops in price soon

it isn't that bad, $170 for 10G/10G

[glacial knot]

and the corp VM I primarily work on gets around 3G symmetric

[glacial knot]

Why would it be anything else?

[clear ferry]

but 1G\1G is $85

[umbral cliff]

At the main office work guest wifi is get a username/password from local IT services

[glacial knot]

why though? The wifi has station isolation and there's nothing except the egress router

[umbral cliff]

To prevent next door offices leaching from the network lol

[clear ferry]

LOL

[umbral cliff]

People would do it

Actually unsure what speed client net is, never browse the internet on it, only local resources

[clear ferry]

The norm here for guest networks the last 10+ years has been either

• registering with captive portal with password from front desk
• registering yourself via sms in captive portal

[umbral cliff]

People rarely visit our office (more likely for us to go to client sites) so I don't think its even used much

[glacial knot]

the only "next door" office is Salesforce.
And our infra team is pretty good at keeping it contained. I actually don't have wifi on the terrace

so when I sit outside at the office, I take my phone to host a hotspot to work 😄

I don't need any service that's exposed on corp wifi either way. Everything is 0 trust either way 😮

[umbral cliff]

Imagine being able to work outside of the office lol

Most of my work is client side, all ethernet terminals

[glacial knot]

wdym?

[umbral cliff]

I can't work outside of my desk in the office. My work is all on client computers

[glacial knot]

You have your client's computers on your desk?

[umbral cliff]

I'm on client site every day

So yes

[glacial knot]

F

[umbral cliff]

Well its our office, but dedicated to this project/ client

So client computers are set up there

Jealous of other projects with client laptops or just everything from corp laptop

[glacial knot]

We do have a solution for that though
The lab has a networked kvm 😄

[clear ferry]

I find projects fun, when they are temporary and intermittent 😄

but home office 4 lyfe

only time I leave the house now is military customers

which is currently once every two weeks

[glacial knot]

do they put a dark bag over your head when they pick you up at the bus stop?

[clear ferry]

no

[umbral cliff]

Probably add some duct tape just to stop him talking

[clear ferry]

but there are sites where I turn off gps when I leave

and I can't tell the wife when I'll be home

[glacial knot]

and then drives there with the internet connected navigation system on the Volvo 😂

[clear ferry]

it can be turned off

fun fact, teslas as the least trusted vehicles for military bases, because you can't turn off cameras properly

[glacial knot]

I did read about an entire city banning teslas when some higher up chinese military and government met

[clear ferry]

sounds reasonable

never trust american tech

[glacial knot]

and even less so when it's Tesla

[clear ferry]

Norwegian equivalent to NSA had a very easy cool fix to mobile phone tapping a few years ago

just a minijack cable with loopback that you plugged into the phone

that disabled the mic \ speaker

😄

not very viable on modern phones, with a dongle, sure but not quite

[dusky plank]

https://tenor.com/view/zigbee-smarthome-hump-tech-support-gif-21337088

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/F70p.gif

smile and zwave boys

[tidal bronze]

Is there any other tech that's any useful?

[clear ferry]

all of them

[tidal bronze]

Lmao.

Encouraging to see people dream big

[clear ferry]

oh you want some new cisco switches, yeah we'll just intercept those and install some nice software on them - best regards NSA

gdpr, yeah we'll just block you guys instead

[glacial knot]

esp32s 😮

[tidal bronze]

So the alternatives would be?

[clear ferry]

Lots of great chinese switches 😉

and adhering to GDPR is a great alternative

Microsoft has finally put in place options to guarantee to never be able to run software in american DCs

we have been waiting for that for a while

[tidal bronze]

And the world as we know it uses how many of these Chinese switches?

[clear ferry]

Lots

[tidal bronze]

Numbers?

Lots is relative

[clear ferry]

3COM \ Huawei \ H3C are pretty big

[tidal bronze]

Big to a Norwegian or big as in US big?

[clear ferry]

that said, I don't trust software from Israel either 😉

[glacial knot]

ME :/

[clear ferry]

YOU :/

Israel cybersec is some shady stuff tbh

[tidal bronze]

You crack me up.

[glacial knot]

I don't really trust ours either D:

[clear ferry]

Not our fault america is the laughing stock of the world

[tidal bronze]

I know right.

Money talks period. So yep can stock up on those laughs as long as you can take it to the bank. Numbers, always numbers.

[clear ferry]

and this just is, recession gonna hit hard, those numbers are gonna plummet

[tidal bronze]

How's that going for rest of the world 🤣

[clear ferry]

very well thank you

[tidal bronze]

Been the best time to travel for the $ I doubt about that "well"

[clear ferry]

it does help when the $ is overpumped by the feds, just makes the fall higher 😄

[tidal bronze]

Dozen of eggs a little expensive now but man, it's a party whenever you land anywhere that's laughing 😃 It's confusing who's laughing harder.

Good times!

[clear ferry]

#thatfeeling when you told customer something, they told you it wasn't correct, you replicated it in the lab and sent it to them

[finite atlas]

:D

[clear ferry]

https://v.redd.it/domwibyzz8ea1

[clear ferry]

Trogdor is 20 years

https://tenor.com/view/trogdor-gif-4762062

[hollow glacier]

Does anyone want either of these codes?

[forest edge]

tailscale is hiring

[low harness]

Happy birthday, the Burninator!

[clear ferry]

Trågdåååååår

Every week I check my email

I hope it's from a female

But alas

[forest edge]

they make inflatable solutions to that

[clear ferry]

been trying out jellyfin just for lulz today, not impressed, transcode play behaves like a pile of shit, and directplay just drops the audio

😄

[night zodiac]

I had it uninstalled in about 5 minutes, I think

[clear ferry]

Yeah, I'm there

not sure what all the shitkids are so hyped about

[night zodiac]

I spent more time getting it than running it

[clear ferry]

plex is lightyears ahead

[night zodiac]

it is very very ugly

[clear ferry]

also, I can have a sloth on a scoot as an icon

[night zodiac]

yeah, going to take years to catch up to the sloth technology

[night zodiac]

holy heck

that's rad

[clear ferry]

yeah, screw jellyfin

that said, I should probably get a GPU for transcoding 4k content, I'm getting more lately

but CPU transcoding is fine so far

[night zodiac]

so far the GPU in my Synology NAS has been able to keep up

it doesn't take much

[clear ferry]

I have dual E5 v3s though

used to have dual X5660s

[night zodiac]

I meant GPU wise

[clear ferry]

yeah

I have no GPU

😄

Or, matrox g200

[night zodiac]

CPU been living blind their whole lives

[clear ferry]

doesn't count

[mellow parcel]

agreed

gtx1050 seems plasible

[clear ferry]

oh, reminds me, I've moved to new CPUs, I should let frigate have some instructions

20% of all cpu load on my system is frigate

😄

[night zodiac]

is it a steady line of hunger?

GIMME CYCLES

[mellow parcel]

atx what hardware?

[clear ferry]

https://hatebin.com/dssjeeinzn

[night zodiac]

hatebin

a bit agressive

[clear ferry]

DL380 Gen9 - E5-2620 v3 x2 - 128G RAM - NVMe mirror boot and about 70TB of storage

[mellow parcel]

nice

[clear ferry]

NAME         SIZE  ALLOC   FREE  CKPOINT  EXPANDSZ   FRAG    CAP  DEDUP    HEALTH  ALTROOT
Storage     36.3T  33.1T  3.22T        -         -    42%    91%  1.00x    ONLINE  -
Storage2TB  5.44T   171G  5.27T        -         -     4%     3%  1.00x    ONLINE  -
Storage6TB  16.4T  2.21T  14.2T        -         -     8%    13%  1.00x    ONLINE  -
rustr1      2.17T  1.99T   189G        -         -     7%    91%  1.00x    ONLINE  -
ssdz1       14.0T  4.63T  9.34T        -         -     9%    33%  1.00x    ONLINE  -
tank        12.2T  40.0G  12.2T        -         -     0%     0%  1.00x    ONLINE  -

2 and 6TB are dying soon

being replaced with 20 8TB drives

and 4 I will keep as spares

and tank will be put into the ssdz1 pool

[night zodiac]

I have a humble 36TB I think

[clear ferry]

or the other way around

[night zodiac]

with some spares in the closet

[clear ferry]

I'm just playing around with dRAID vs RAIDz1

[night zodiac]

I'm too dumb to play with my data

[clear ferry]

    NAME                 STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
    tank                 ONLINE       0     0     0
      draid1:4d:8c:1s-0  ONLINE       0     0     0
        sdab             ONLINE       0     0     0
        sdac             ONLINE       0     0     0
        sdad             ONLINE       0     0     0
        sdae             ONLINE       0     0     0
        sdaf             ONLINE       0     0     0
        sdag             ONLINE       0     0     0
        sdah             ONLINE       0     0     0
        sdai             ONLINE       0     0     0
    spares
      draid1-0-0         AVAIL   

[night zodiac]

I just want it stay and be good

https://tenor.com/byXgm.gif

[clear ferry]

    NAME                                     STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
    ssdz1                                    ONLINE       0     0     0
      raidz1-0                               ONLINE       0     0     0
        ata-VK001920GWTHC_SS95N5469I0905R0E  ONLINE       0     0     0
        ata-VK001920GWTHC_SS95N5469I0905R2H  ONLINE       0     0     0
        ata-VK001920GWTHC_SS95N5469I0905R2P  ONLINE       0     0     0
        ata-VK001920GWTHC_SS95N5469I0905R3D  ONLINE       0     0     0
        ata-VK001920GWTHC_SS95N5469I0905R08  ONLINE       0     0     0
        ata-VK001920GWTHC_SS95N5469I0805S31  ONLINE       0     0     0
        ata-VK001920GWTHC_SS95N5469I0905R2O  ONLINE       0     0     0
        ata-VK001920GWTHC_SS95N5469I0905R07  ONLINE       0     0     0

[night zodiac]

oh yeah?

boots up DSM

[clear ferry]

16 2TB SSDs is always better than 8 2TB SSDs

[night zodiac]

SSD's

mine are not

🙂

[clear ferry]

😦

[mellow parcel]

Xeon(R) CPU E5-2630L v2 X2

[clear ferry]

Not a bad choice either for power efficient server

[night zodiac]

https://share.busheezy.dev/i/fT7CjX

[clear ferry]

mine averages 95w

[night zodiac]

I'm afraid to hook NUT back up

[clear ferry]

you kids and your cache devices

[night zodiac]

SHHH SSD BOY

[clear ferry]

I should use metadata device if I move to dRAID though

[mellow parcel]

atx do you have 10gbe?

[night zodiac]

the cache devices are awesome though

[clear ferry]

I have 10 and 40 yes

I should get hold of some 100G at some point

[night zodiac]

atx runs norways public transport system from his house

[clear ferry]

You jest

but I have installed a lot of their servers

and revoked a lot of their supports

since they are knobheads

[night zodiac]

see

[mellow parcel]

sounds like many

[clear ferry]

running windows 7 on bl460c and refusing to upgrade drivers, such unsupport wow

[night zodiac]

long live windows 7

[clear ferry]

yuck

[night zodiac]

you were so beautiful

https://tenor.com/xOHW.gif

[clear ferry]

Windows 2000

best boi

[night zodiac]

ME

[clear ferry]

yuck

[night zodiac]

joking

[mellow parcel]

2k server...

[night zodiac]

driver errors are fun. 🙂

what drivers

[clear ferry]

I ran 2000 on my desktop from RC1 to about 2003

[night zodiac]

windows 7 was great for gaming

it was pure

[clear ferry]

then I switched to windows 2003 as my daily windows driver

[night zodiac]

https://tenor.com/vD6l.gif

[clear ferry]

but I ran fedora core 2 on my primary system

[night zodiac]

https://archive.org/details/xp.-pe.-july.-2009.-english

I ran this forever

FUCK A PRINTER

[mellow parcel]

how thongs change

things

[night zodiac]

I can't even run an older version of windows 11 without anticheat programs being angry at me

🙂

[mellow parcel]

yeah

or using your cpu wrong

as intel now has hybrid cpu's mixing atoms and their highend cores on a single chip

[clear ferry]

My OS history is Commodore -> windows 2.0 -> windows 3.11 -> windows 95 -> windows 98 -> windows 98se -> windows 2000 \ slackware -> windows 2003 \ fedora core 2 \ gentoo -> windows 7 \ ubuntu -> ubuntu -> popos

never had amigas, my cousins did

I did have BeOS in there for a few months too

[mellow parcel]

beos was buttery smooth

[clear ferry]

There was recently a rerelease wasn't there ?

https://www.haiku-os.org/

Haiku

[mellow parcel]

yeah but it's not really the same

and now just feels so limited

[tame hazel]

Need a blue-ray/dvd player to rip some old dvd's and bluerays to put on a plex server. Do y'all have any recommendations?

[forest edge]

https://www.businessinsider.com/google-layoffs-employees-psychological-safety-2023-1

[night zodiac]

https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19634

[last cedar]

They start to smell after a while, and then get crusty

[night zodiac]

dear goodness

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/FQeI.gif

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/breakingbad-science-yeah-science-gif-5954775

[clear ferry]

I love those american cookie preference stuff where I have to specifically choose "required cookies only" and it takes 3-5 minutes to "adjust my cookies"

whereas if I click "all cookies" it is immediate

[tame hazel]

"Dark UX Patterns". It's a whole thing

[clear ferry]

I prefer dark unix

[shrewd veldt]

🍪

[night zodiac]

I have no idea what I click

I just spam buttons until it's gone like a crazy person

[dusky plank]

never consent extensions are a thing

[night zodiac]

I usually consent because I want my website to work like a normal website

🍪

but there are so many consent buttons

I'm like, "yeah, that is enough, sure"

"vague cookie, vague cookie, vague cookie, yep, looks good to me"

[dusky plank]

the websites adhering to that can be count on one hand

[clear ferry]

I actually couldn't reach out expense management page when I blocked the "only necessary cookies" once @dusky plank

[static schooner]

Do you want useful ads or garbage ads? Spoiler: you're always getting ads

[clear ferry]

Actually, I don't get ads

[night zodiac]

ads o.O

the cookie popup is the only fucking ad I get

🙂

[forest edge]

you always get ads, even if you don't see them

[clear ferry]

Not sure if this is also an american thing, I saw people complaining about ads on the LG smart tvs

[night zodiac]

they're on all of the tv's

[clear ferry]

I have never seen an ad on a smart tv in my life

[night zodiac]

I don't seent them though

https://tenor.com/bzcys.gif

https://tenor.com/bTIbY.gif

[clear ferry]

yuck pi hole

[night zodiac]

works for me. 🙂

[clear ferry]

shut your pi hole

https://tenor.com/bqHI7.gif

[night zodiac]

https://tenor.com/beS5H.gif

[night zodiac]

https://tenor.com/bw9EX.gif

[umbral cliff]

They are working on a new UI which looks a lot better. But yeah having both running, jellyfin enables more user tweaking, but plex just works and works well

[night zodiac]

yeah, plex has a few years on them