I used the 85-- I have zero idea what model
#the-water-cooler
umbral cliff
Now sits under my bed with windows 7 installed on it and BMW coding tools so I can use the dealer software on my computer for my car
dusky plank
No microsoft stuff at all. It's purely workplace and I let them know every day
pallid willow
Now sits under my bed with windows 7 installed on it and BMW coding tools so I c...
using mine to manage my homelab
dusky plank
heck I have HP usb c docks that work fine with the surface laptops
pallid willow
I have a spectre dock
umbral cliff
Yeah the surface line of products is good, thought the dock was always overpriced so never got it
dusky plank
but to expect microsofts own solution for their surface lineup to work ? nope. not going to go well
pallid willow
The dock is so stupid
I'm so happy the new surface laptops use thunderbolt so nobody has to use them anymore
umbral cliff
You could get away without using the dock anyway with just the USB C port
pallid willow
yeah but you didn't get the extra capabilities that the dock had
USB-C has limits thunderbolt doesn't have
dusky plank
You could get away without using the dock anyway with just the USB C port
these things don't have usbc
pallid willow
They do?
dusky plank
well the laptops and newer ones have, but only on the device itself
umbral cliff
That's why I said without using the dock
dusky plank
the SURFACE dock (the device which does not cope with SURFACE Laptops or portables) does not have USBc but their proprietary magnet shit
pallid willow
well the laptops and newer ones have, but only on the device itself
I mean where else would they put the USBC port?
in space?
umbral cliff
the SURFACE dock (the device which does not cope with SURFACE Laptops or portabl...
Also the surface dock does have USB C
pallid willow
new surface dock does
dusky plank
there's a 30 pin shite connector on surface devices for a reason (a very shitty reason)
pallid willow
V1 doesn't
pallid willow
there's a 30 pin shite connector on surface devices for a reason (a very shitty ...
magsafe ripoff let's go
dusky plank
yeah and the fact that MS shit does not work well with MS shit is hilarious
umbral cliff
The magnetic connector is great for charging, have avoided someone pulling my surface off a desk with that
umbral cliff
yeah and the fact that MS shit does not work well with MS shit is hilarious
Same can be said with apple though
Everyone is shit with shit
pallid willow
who would've known big companies are terrible at doing things
umbral cliff
Like the new iPads where you need a dongle to charge the apple pencil since it's lightning and the iPad is USB C, and the iPad doesn't support the latest pencil with wireless charging
pallid willow
it's almost like they only care about money and not the product they give the consumer
dusky plank
Same can be said with apple though
at least the lightning port does not make my ios devices to refuse boot
umbral cliff
Lightning was great before USB C
dusky plank
the surface laptops and pros just straight up refuse to boot when connected to their docks
pallid willow
It was cool in 2016 but it's 2022 and we're still using 2.0 speeds on phones?
umbral cliff
the surface laptops and pros just straight up refuse to boot when connected to t...
Or whatever firmware the company provides with it is broke
dusky plank
its current
umbral cliff
It was cool in 2016 but it's 2022 and we're still using 2.0 speeds on phones?
Yeah that happens in android land too... Even with USB C
pallid willow
My pixel has 3.0
dusky plank
believe me, they throw away > 300 devices now in december
umbral cliff
My Samsung has 2.0, device is 3 months old
pallid willow
that's stupid
dusky plank
its insane
pallid willow
It's designed to be landfill
umbral cliff
believe me, they throw away > 300 devices now in december
EWaste for soemone then
umbral cliff
It's designed to be landfill
No? You can use a device without it being faster than USB 2 lol
pallid willow
not taking about that but ok
umbral cliff
You mean the devices? You know that it's pretty standard that when a company is done with devices they just chuck them out
EWaste bins are great for that reason
pallid willow
Recycling exists
umbral cliff
And most companies don't care. They just want the tech gone
Sometimes goes to auction
Or sometimes straight to destruction
EWaste bins at least give it a chance of new life
pallid willow
usually what my company does is they lay out all of the old stuff and people can buy if they want, rest goes to recycling
we get credit for that
up to $100 depending on device
umbral cliff
That's good
umbral cliff
My first server was an old workstation from uni, worked really well especially given it was free
pallid willow
it's mostly like data center servers too
I mean shred the drives but someone in the world can use the hardware
maybe someone wants to run home assistant on it ๐
umbral cliff
People get paranoid with hardware in dark sites/ anything concerning national secrets
No chance of that being anything but shredded
clear ferry
heck, batteries get shredded
pallid willow
THIS BATTERY MIGHT STORE A SINGLE EMAIL GET RID OF IT
clear ferry
anything that can be traced
will be shredded
I love the fact that I don't have to bring any hardware back with me from sites
pallid willow
iphones anyone?
clear ferry
or my own laptop
scenic radish
how do you shred a battery
pallid willow
carefully
clear ferry
everything goes into a machine that crunches it to dust
umbral cliff
Explosively
pallid willow
Magically
scenic radish
but will it blend?
clear ferry
the last one I saw could do 40 3.5" hdds at once
or a 4U server alone
with all insides
pallid willow
but will it blend?
scenic radish
On another note, I feel sort of bad for whichever client is lucky enough to get charged the time for my morning shit
rapid plinth
The world of USB-C docks is a minefield of unstable hardware, noncompliance with standards, arbitrary and poorly documented compatibility and other dumb gotchas
Your best chance is to buy a device from a major OEM and buy their dock that is specifically listed as compatible with that device, defeating the point of there being a standard in the first place... And even that is far from a guarantee, as seen here
orchid rose
last cedar
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/684921738051584026/1044983586438262874/Th...
Excellent
orchid rose
I hope I'm not the only one who thinks that yeah that could have been me
static schooner
I'm certain there have been cartoons of exactly that
silent doveBOT
@clear ferry I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:
clear ferry
glacial knot
40T of 2P o.0
clear ferry
glacial knot
I'll have to show off my ping to 8.8.4.4 tomorrow
clear ferry
mine is pathetic, 8.4ms
glacial knot
from the corp machine mine's like .4ms ๐
glacial knot
I have surprisingly callous hands for a dev. I wonder whether it's due to my shitposting speed
clear ferry
or your "woodworking"
glacial knot
it'd be more one sided if ti was from working my wood ๐
clear ferry
Not ambidexterous, I see
clear ferry
I had a guitar teacher who was ambidexterous, could play both left and right handed guitars both ways
was pretty impressive
turns out he also liked young girls, not so impressed anymore
scenic radish
I use both hands eveyr now and then, but effectively default to right
Have you ever tried the stranger?
clear ferry
Der fremder
midnight adder
Hey, y'all got any good links/suggestions to de-google??
Email I won't self-host...
midnight adder
LOL I got locked out of my account due to 2FA, and after getting back in, I am determined not to be in that position again!!
The complete lack of remedy is alarming and annoying.
clear ferry
protonmail is great
dusky plank
(when they don't send your mails to complete strangers on their servers)
clear ferry
excuse me
midnight adder
No, when they don't have any support at all. And they allow you to lock yourself out.
midnight adder
Yeah, but dang, I don't want to self host email.
clear ferry
Interesing
midnight adder
Right now, everything (self hosted) I do is in an VPN....
midnight adder
Getting a domain (paying) and managing getting black-listed occasionally is just too much work (in my past experience).
clear ferry
I just use my own domain with protonmail
midnight adder
@clear ferry Hey... got a "starter protonmail" site or channel you prefer? For setting it up right. I admit to be ing no good at correctly configuring services exposed to the internet.
Thank you, Tailscale.
clear ferry
Yeah i don't use tailscale
And protonmail isn't self hosted, so it is just paying for the service
The bridge is a docker container
rapid plinth
I use my own domain with mailbox.org
It's not free, but remember, if you're not paying you're not a customer
Although, to play devil's advocate for a moment
Account recovery is an attack surface, and a very popular one. Look at all the "Imma send you a code, just send it back to me k?" scams
umbral cliff
The world of USB-C docks is a minefield of unstable hardware, noncompliance with...
And so far the only issues I've run into with them is using a cable that's not the right speed needed (USB 2 charging only cable, thought it was at least USB 3, but when I bought a TB3 cable dock worked perfectly.
So my experiences have been good
rapid plinth
I have an Aukey dock that may or may not work fully depending on in what order you plug things in
An Insignia USB-C to DP cable that just doesn't work with some devices for some reason
A "j5Create" USB-C to HDMI with PD passthrough that just doesn't work with some other devices for some reason, and also may or may not let you use 4K
you've been rolling 6s
clear ferry
my hp dock g2 is sometimes finnicky
but I think that is linux based, if I just replug it it behaves fine
running 2x 4k off it, plus all USB port with extra hubs on it ๐
and one extra 4k monitor via HDMI on the zbook itself
umbral cliff
Ah I love spending my day watching something copy that'll take 40 minutes. Then watching it copy again to somewhere else also taking around 40 minutes
twilit locust
Interesting job, can i send you my cv.
brisk glen
Get into sccm package management
Build the large solid works package and watch it deploy for 30 minutes to the distribution servers before testing
last cedar
@clear ferry I got my current Octavia a raccoon, and now it feels at least as good as a new octavia
glacial knot
๐ฎ
finite atlas
its so adorable!
last cedar
its so adorable!
It has only bitten me twice so far
clear ferry
Twice bitten and once shy
keen bridge
Where can I get one?
keen bridge
I have a Santa Squad hoody and multiple christmas hats.
clear ferry
I have.. a lot of Christmas stuff
I've won Christmas outfit contests at work for.. the last 6 years now I think
keen bridge
I'm sure people are proud of you ๐
fallow karma
I've won Christmas outfit contests at work for.. the last 6 years now I think
Pics or didn't happen
clear ferry
I'm sure I posted one last year
my mmwave zigbee sensor arrived, but it isn't supported by z2m
I might need to add support
umbral cliff
I've won Christmas outfit contests at work for.. the last 6 years now I think
That because its only you in the competition?
clear ferry
Actually a lot of people dropped out last year because they said "It's no use"
My manager is sending last years outfit to the european newsletter right now actually
to encourage other offices to compete
glacial knot
and you don't even have the beard D:
dusky plank
Looks like any other PIR :/
clear ferry
yall pir does distance and moving away \ coming closer?
dusky plank
Not exactly but you can set sensitivity quite equal to distance and such is what i meant
midnight adder
Looks like any other PIR :/
no
dusky plank
Is it performing good? I will see in a few days anyways
midnight adder
yall pir does distance and moving away \ coming closer?
non of them afaik
though you could if the PIR sensor has a few more pixels
midnight adder
is that the aqara Sensor?
clear ferry
no tuya
midnight adder
model name? I was looking for a Radar Motion sensor too
was not sure which one to buy though
clear ferry
NOK 145.53 44%OFF | ZigBee Wifi MmWave Human Presence Motion Sensor With Luminance/Distance Detection 5/110/220V Tuya Smart Life Home Automation
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKQ6U1Q
Was $25
midnight adder
thy
clear ferry
tuya zigbee
yes
tuya wifi
no
the joys of frigate
I could just show my wife me falling down the stairs
glacial knot
๐
dawn prawn
that feeling when you just watch state of the open home and find out there was a migrate button for your automations to go from yaml to the UI.....
1 hour down the toilet
glacial knot
Oh, there is? I need to migrate a bunch of groups
dawn prawn
dunno about groups, but automations had one
instead i went and copied all my yaml's into new automations /wrists
clear ferry
yuck ui automations
such limiting wow
blueprints were a nice concept, but I've only used it for the symfonisk rotary encoder
dawn prawn
such limiting wow
tbh, not anymore. its much better now
probably some small instances where you still need the yaml, but the UI has improved massively this year
clear ferry
yuck
dawn prawn
๐ฉ
umbral cliff
yuck ui automations
You can still do hybrid UI and YAML lol
clear ferry
yes
I do that
because of blueprints
also, LOL powercalc really went bonkers
all my 80 or so lights are in that list
and more
umbral cliff
What's powercalc
scenic radish
That seems...overkill ๐
clear ferry
รผbertoten
clear ferry
glacial knot
the iMac makes the video
dusky plank
scenic radish
Imac, umac, wemac
ourmac
glacial knot
Mac&Cheese
clear ferry
Bigguru maccuru
keen bridge
Oh, Hubitat is getting HomeKit support. Finally catching up with HA then ๐
forest edge
When I first got into home automation OpenHab was the very first thing I tried cause all of the guides stated it was the easier of the two biggest opensource home automation platforms. it certainly wasn't for me. Devices like that Hubitat was very appealing in the beginning because it flattened the learning curve dramatically many people just don't want to dive down a steep learning curve to make their smart crap do what they envision in their brain.
glacial knot
put in the education reimbursement request for wanikani. Let's see if work plays along ๐
orchid rose
https://www.reddit.com/r/AnimalTextGifs/comments/z31r9x/thats_a_smooth_duck/?utm...
That's just too cute
forest edge
keen bridge
just finished cleaning up and reorganizing my HA config
Does anything work now? ๐
scenic radish
ha!
keen bridge
I'll take that as a "no" ๐
scenic radish
i, in fact, had no configuration errors after the changes
keen bridge
That does not mean it works! ๐
scenic radish
heh, fair. everything is indeed still in working order ๐
scenic radish
Lol the few times a year that I reboot the server are slightly ass-puckering
last cedar
i, in fact, had no configuration errors after the changes
Deleting every line doesn't count
scenic radish
keen bridge
I am supposed to be moving from HAOS to docker and every time I get started I feel like I'm not ready for everything to just not work for a week while I figure out what I screwed up ๐
(It's mostly moving all the addons that's scary to be honest)
static schooner
I started by moving those over one at a time
keen bridge
The problem is the ones that communicate via MQTT
But it did occur to me that I can have one central mqtt.env file on the machine and just update the details of that once I move mosquitto
clear ferry
Hm
having more mqtt just makes it easier
move the broker
and if you had the broker defined as a hostname you could easily just change the underlying IP ๐
keen bridge
But then I have to point all the HA addons at it while I do it, or deal with it all being broken for a day ๐
orchid rose
Just have both running and move step by step
keen bridge
You can't connect MQTT to HA twice ๐
But I'll figure it out, hopefully this weekend
orchid rose
well MQTT should just work by changing the broker like atx said
keen bridge
But if it's an addon right now, I didn't do anything magic to make it work ๐
clear ferry
also I just got my SK6812 leds today, playing with them, and I set the brightness of white leds to full and thought, wow that is dim, then I set colour led to white and full brightness
I can read text next week
probably
keen bridge
And my router back then didn't let me do things like define a hostname ๐คช
keen bridge
Hey, unifi which I now have will let me do that ๐
It was Eero before, great wifi, rubbish everything else
orchid rose
SK6812 is pretty great
keen bridge
Haha, whoops
clear ferry
My daughter is getting nanoleaf in the ceiling in her new room, and I'm using the SK6812 to light up her clothes drawers
keen bridge
*the planet
clear ferry
yeah sorry about that indonesia, I know it is night there now, I just had to check a drawer
also damn esphome has improved since last I bothered using it
encryption keys and shizzle
keen bridge
That reminds me, my new RGBCCT COB LED strip, (also known as "acronym city light thingy") should be arriving tomorrow or Saturday
clear ferry
I have three COB LED white only in my garage
replaced 10 flouresent double fixtures with them
orchid rose
"RGBCCT COB" now that just sounds hot. I'm guessing those aren't individually controlled and we'll still have to wait a bit?
keen bridge
Not addressable no, not that I recall
I did see those though. Just didn't fancy spending 2x the amount on them
orchid rose
If it's only 2x that sounds like a bargain for a nerd that enjoys reactive lights. Do you happen to have a link for either of those?
keen bridge
These are the ones I ordered: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004753632275.html
The other ones were Tuya and seemed suspiciously cheap so I didn't save the link based on the likelihood they'd be poor quality or a scam.
orchid rose
Thanks
keen bridge
Most of them seem to just be addressable RGB though
glacial knot
that's a 100W strip D:
orchid rose
It's not like electricity is expensive right now is it ๐
keen bridge
I plan for it to be on for 20 minutes about 5 days a week, in winter, and I don't need ~1/2 of it ๐
When I bought it there was a 12V one which is what I got too
rapid plinth
In ~3 weeks I need to split a system in two
I decided what I'd do is, the zwave devices stay at one place, the zigbee devices go to the other place, and I start from scratch copy-pasting automations from the original setup as needed
last cedar
That sounds very painful, rather you than me
clear ferry
dusky plank
finite atlas
just a battery hidden in the wooden base
forest edge
@night zodiac Hurry before they sell out! https://www.amazon.com/Alpine-Corporation-WHS102WW-Wonderland-Multicolor/dp/B07N841W37?ref_=Oct_DLandingS_D_a9db65c4_63
night zodiac
stawhp
I bought a bunch of shit that didn't work. ๐
I bought some lights that I thought were replacements but it was literally only the single house I had in my hand
and the rest were all a diff brand
light hole is diff by like 2cm ๐
forest edge
time to break out the hammer
rapid plinth
just a battery hidden in the wooden base
Don't care, still awesome, still want one
weak needle
Here's a very loaded question for you: Do you use an IP allocation on your network, either DHCP assigned or static IP address, and if so, do you have a format, like x.1 to x.20 for critical infrastructure or such?
forest edge
just about every device i have has a static ip
weak needle
have a system?
forest edge
not really lol. when I first set it up I tried allocating for additional devices of the same type in a single block but over the years that blew apart so...
weak needle
yeah, same issue, but trying to update it
glacial knot
come up with a decent name scheme, use DNS and DHCP o.0
forest edge
i use name on some things, but when you have multiples of the same type name actually was worse for me to remember
weak needle
Oh that I use What, Where, Details
I was thinking more for things like the kids switches, consoles etc
clear ferry
I do DHCP reservations for everything that is not a router or DNS server
And i keep devices of similar nature in the same range
Just for light OCD
But I don't do IoT networks, and i have roughly... 8 internal networks
weak needle
Okay, that would work XD
clear ferry
Always map DHCP to dns
glacial knot
I was thinking more for things like the kids switches, consoles etc
<consoletype>-<kidname>.<domain>
OR:
<kidname>.<type>.consoles.<domain>
clear ferry
Use DNS hostnames for everything
glacial knot
Shove every kid into their own subnet so you can DROP easier if they are annoying
weak needle
oh I like that
umbral cliff
Use DNS hostnames for everything
Do you just use your DNS host for that?
glacial knot
I don't expose my internal IPs on a public server
Technically that's against spec, but I don't care
glacial knot
Do you just use your DNS host for that?
I have a scuffed setup. Atx will love it
One dnamasq per subnet which all upstream to one systemd-resolved which knows about the other subnet servers
clear ferry
Yuck
clear ferry
Do you just use your DNS host for that?
Vague question, rephrase
umbral cliff
Vague question, rephrase
Rephrased and reasking, how do you keep on top of updating DNS stuff lol
Also presume the DNS resolver is your opnsense one?
umbral cliff
Ahh that's neat
glacial knot
Yeah, you'd run an authoritive server for your domain, and update that from DHCP
Dnsmasq is both in one process
Other common ones are knot and bind9
I used to run isc-dhcp and bind9, but that was PITA
clear ferry
I run bind9 in my lab environment where I don't want the stuff to be cleanup afterwards
like with a fully nested cloud environment
just redeploy the same bind9 config every time I need to redeploy that lab with 40ish vms
umbral cliff
I'm looking forward to redesigning my home network entirely next year
Hopefully going to do opnsense
clear ferry
DU ITT
forest edge
pfsense. save yourself some headaches
umbral cliff
I can test both out
umbral cliff
Need me link all the pfsense bullshit again <@137144563109330944>
Yeah but nothing stops me from playing around with both anyway
forest edge
typical atx, hating on shit that actually works lol
clear ferry
That's what she said?
forest edge
whoever these new web designers all these companies keep hiring to redesign their company website need to be canned
umbral cliff
To be fair, have seen many people say opnsense is great as well. So pfsense isn't always the best
forest edge
a godamn bank website shouldn't load up like a jigsaw puzzle then hide how to do thing through non indicated drops downs
umbral cliff
Sounds like you need a new bank
forest edge
pfesnse seems to actually make sure shit works before rolling out an update, while opnsense will break people's setup with every update
the opnsense reddit is jam packed with every iteration fucking people over
clear ferry
Netgate used to be good people, they've decended into a cesspool of a maelstrom
umbral cliff
I tried pfsense once, without me touching it managed to force a reboot and corrupt it's install lol
That was funny
clear ferry
Lol
forest edge
Sounds like you need a new bank
not even that. currently in support with Shelly because thier website redesign broke and dosen't even allow people to check out lol
umbral cliff
not even that. currently in support with Shelly because thier website redesign b...
My point was related to your bank's shitty website. So yes a new bank could be useful. Mine is a simple click for online banking, enter details, job done
forest edge
and that's the thing
the banks new redesign is all click and done.. but there is nothing that indicates initially what you need to click
so yea great.. once you learn it it's fine (aside from the jigsaw load) but wtf kind of mentality is that
there is an old saying, if it ain't broke.. don't fix it
it's like people cannot stop meddling
umbral cliff
the banks new redesign is all click and done.. but there is nothing that indicat...
Yeah again. Get a new bank if they can't design that correctly. For mine it's just a log in sitting in the top right
Not hard to change banks anyway
forest edge
it's not just the bank site that's like that
they all seems to be moving that direction
like the same 17 year old was hired to do company site designs
umbral cliff
They all want modern design. Can do that whilst also having easy to understand websites
Jigsaw loading also sounds like your internet. Probably pfsense ๐
forest edge
yea shelly is learning that right now.. must be fantastic having no sales lol
clear ferry
I haven't visited my banks website in probably 8 months, i can do anything in the app
forest edge
Jigsaw loading also sounds like your internet. Probably pfsense ๐
i'm still on opnsense..
clear ferry
Heck i got new car loan via email
forest edge
but maybe that is why lmao
umbral cliff
I haven't visited my banks website in probably 8 months, i can do anything in th...
I do it when I can't be fucked using my phone
umbral cliff
yea shelly is learning that right now.. must be fantastic having no sales lol
What exactly is broken with it
forest edge
it seems like people ran out of ideas.. so "modern" is reinventing the wheel and while something may look pretty, functionality is being tossed out the window lol
forest edge
What exactly is broken with it
not 100% sure. think the site is not calculating taxes or something. been back and forth with shelly support for like an hour now
they also require a "salutation" to be set which is dumb, but there is no place to set one lol
been telling shelly ever since they became a thing they need to get their amazon store in order. and while they have added a bunch of stuff to it, it still lacks some items and they don't transition sales to it
forest edge
wtf they want over 100 just for mini pc cases now
the AD410 doorbell is on lightning deal for 120 bucks on amazon just fyi https://www.amazon.com/Amcrest-Doorbell-Detection-Weatherproof-Wide-Angle/dp/B091KMT9GB?ref=dlx_black_gd_dcl_tlt_264_6a49f990_dt_sl7_b0
I think unifi crap actually got more expensive during black friday lol
forest edge
ugh spent way too much money for black friday
@clear ferryI know you are still butthurt with me but saw this and thought of you. https://www.amazon.com/Hair-Growth-Laser-Cap-Red-Light-Therapy/dp/B07M5X4D3P?ref=dlx_black_gd_dcl_tlt_76_328bfd14_dt_sl7_b0 โค๏ธ
last cedar
@forest edge hahah, are you insinuating @clear ferry is bald?!
static schooner
I was just reading an article about the unbalding of Elon Musk. It's quite the transformation
glacial knot
It's amazing what you can with enough money
forest edge
I was just reading an article about the unbalding of Elon Musk. It's quite the t...
you mean how he looks compared to whole front of the top of his head being bald?
hair plugs etc been around forever
static schooner
He's up there with Jeremy Piven, who played George in the show-within-show in Seinfeld
orchid rose
There's quite a few good examples these days. Antonio Conte and Wayne Rooney pop to mind. I wonder how much those cost?
night zodiac
orchid rose
amazing job with the wiring
clear ferry
Thanks bro
Just a test since I need to install a socket for it by the door
That's a tomorrow job
keen bridge
I have nanoleafs framed on my wall
clear ferry
They were a lot larger than I expected
Roughly 200% larger
But then I could cover more of the roof
Still room to attach more leafs
keen bridge
Don't mind the partial aquarium underneath ๐
clear ferry
Wonder how I should solve the controller bit, maybe a Symfonisk rotary encoder with some shortcuts
keen bridge
I kind of want a nano leaf remote for scenes
keen bridge
I have a few Aqara cubes and another HomeKit one on the way though.
clear ferry
I was bamboozled
static schooner
Don't mind the partial aquarium underneath ๐
With a sea-going sloth?
keen bridge
I expected the frame to be the nanoleafs
Slander!!
keen bridge
With a sea-going sloth?
He's just chilling
clear ferry
Chilling eating krilling my man
keen bridge
At one point, I had three octopodes and a giant shark
clear ferry
Not a lot of octopi?
keen bridge
Latin plurals are weird
clear ferry
Quaff
keen bridge
Or was that the Greek? It's been a long week.
Btw Atx, your daughter might like my door buddies
Sadly they're not smart. I've considered electromagnets though ๐ง
keen bridge
These two are a bit weightier.
clear ferry
she is as strong as a horse
she wouldn't notice
I was just at my neighbours house helping her with a modification of her minimoog
apparently I've promised to make a dual led addressable LED setup for her minimoog pitch and mod wheels
hollow glacier
@clear ferry https://reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/z4m87g/has_anyone_seen_an_stl_of_this/ found an excuse for you to get a printer
hollow glacier
hollow glacier
I have five printers 
clear ferry
It spelled a problem
clear ferry
last cedar
Btw Atx, your daughter might like my door buddies
The cat looks like it is doing a poo
keen bridge
The cat looks like it is doing a poo
It does look suspiciously smug
umbral cliff
Question, how do you find the /Dev path for a USB device on debian
glacial knot
depends? What info do you have about your device? and I assume you want the /dev/sd??
glacial knot
Or sudo udevadm monitor
glacial knot
well, if you want to plug after dmesg, you need sudo dmesg --follow either way
or just sudo cat /dev/kmsg ๐
if it's plugged in, easiest might be ls -lAhtr /dev/disk/by-id/ though
clear ferry
glacial knot
return -E2BIG
clear ferry
glacial knot
Is that the WiiU?
Name a price.
and I probably won't buy it either way, but name a price ๐
keen bridge
I just have a boring old Wii in the TV unit ๐
finite atlas
Is that the WiiU?
yes, they go for 100-150โฌ
you can homebrew them easily in order to.. copy games from disks you own and save them on an external ssd to play them
glacial knot
I have a Homebrew enabled Wii. Well, my Mom does
finite atlas
:D so do i
glacial knot
But I'm missing NES, N64 and WiiU.
finite atlas
you can emulate a few old consoles on the wii u
it runs retroarch
NES & N64 included, just looked it up on my console
glacial knot
My 3DS devolved to a mobile SNES emulator at some point
I think there's even a PS1 emulator? But that's only usable for puzzle games, since framerate is low
finite atlas
my wii u is evolving into a wii emulator of games i played in my child hood + a few newer games
glacial knot
Wii was your childhood? o.0
glacial knot
I'm more of an NGC boy
clear ferry
I started out on a c128
Connected to the TV of course
But first proper console was the NES, i loved duckhunt
Then i got a snes, didn't get another console until I bought a used ps2 in 2008
Borrowed ps1 and PS2 from friends between 1997 and 2005 though
glacial knot
I love USB-C. Charging my mouse with the Laptop Power Brick ๐
finite atlas
My 3DS devolved to a mobile SNES emulator at some point
if you like big screens, you can use the wii u to emulate ds games aswell
glacial knot
if you like big screens, you can use the wii u to emulate ds games aswell
since I mostly play while a stream is running or on the go, my 3DS does just fine
forest edge
for those who complain about tesla lol https://www.thedrive.com/news/mercedes-makes-better-performance-a-1200-subscription-in-its-evs
glacial knot
havent' used it since I got the switch though
I love Nintendo and their whacky consoles
glacial knot
the 3DS's gimmick turned out to be mostly a fad
otherwise that would have been a future guiding device as well
last cedar
for those who complain about tesla lol https://www.thedrive.com/news/mercedes-ma...
That car looks hot af tho
forest edge
That car looks hot af tho
Burn through your cash in no time flat
last cedar
Mmmm
night zodiac
clear ferry
https://www.techradar.com/news/whatsapp-data-breach-sees-nearly-500-million-user-records-up-for-sale
Yikes
orchid rose
oof
static schooner
I wonder how much I'll get from the sale
clear ferry
Only ones I know that use whatsapp is Indian customer support groups, never seen anyone I work with actually use it
orchid rose
You don't use WA in Norway?
clear ferry
Never seen anyone who does
orchid rose
It seems to be very divided by borders on what people use. It's super popular here and some other European countries
Norway probably is a iPhone country like Sweden so it's less popular there
clear ferry
Most people I know communicate via Facebook Messenger, but I don't have Facebook
So I mostly use telegram or Snapchat
orchid rose
Wow, Telegram and Snapchat. Okay zoomer
clear ferry
forest edge
5 is a surprising amount?
pretty sure it's not even possible to be alive during the first decade of this century and not have something that requires an sdcard
finite atlas
i want my stuff to work, except my pi 3b+
umbral cliff
So I mostly use telegram or Snapchat
I would not have picked you as a Snapchat user
umbral cliff
pretty sure it's not even possible to be alive during the first decade of this c...
Could stick to film cameras, tape based film cameras, etc until flash storage became a thing
forest edge
Could stick to film cameras, tape based film cameras, etc until flash storage be...
far more than just cameras. I was referring to kids as well. everything utilized sdcards during that period. hell my old crt tv had an sdcard slot
umbral cliff
far more than just cameras. I was referring to kids as well. everything utilized...
Only thing I used SD cards for were my DS and digital camera. Had no reason for them otherwise
forest edge
just confirming what I said
umbral cliff
And a lot of people didn't have DSs either
Hell I didn't need one I just stole it from my camera
night zodiac
I have a bunch for drones and things
forest edge
finite atlas
leaving the EU was the best thing UK could have done
forest edge
clear ferry
I would not have picked you as a Snapchat user
Gotta keep up with the kids you see
glacial knot
your kids have phones..?
clear ferry
your kids have phones..?
Pretty soon i guess, most kids have phones from first grade here
I got my first when I was in.... 7th grade, and that was 25 years ago
@finite atlas https://i.redd.it/a71rirhi0f2a1.jpg
forest edge
I got my first when I was in.... 7th grade, and that was 25 years ago
even with you being weird I seriously doubt that. phones during that time were too big for any kid to actually carry around
glacial knot
I got my first 5th grade, since that school wasn't in the same village I lived in
but that was dumb brick phone
clear ferry
Yeah mine was the Nokia 1610
Then i got a Philips spark i think
And then i moved to Ericsson
forest edge
what kind of kid carries around the equivalent of a land line wireless phone pre teenager years?
you all must have been bored as shit
vague rock
I had a Nokia 3310 and then an LG C3310 flip phone
finite atlas
<@225640850506514432> https://i.redd.it/a71rirhi0f2a1.jpg
i do prefer the wii over a xbox 360 / ps3
last cedar
That I don't want to talk about
finite atlas
the sun came a little too close to your house
night zodiac
I've been redoing my whole home. Thank goodness I don't have to redo the google control panel stuff. just yoink the key.
last cedar
I've been redoing my whole home. Thank goodness I don't have to redo the google ...
Sounds like a lot of work, have your rebuilt the entire home in 1 day?
night zodiac
yesterday I spent getting everything into HA and today I make it do stuff
doing thee ol' Pi HAOS -> Docker conversion
I get you. jokes. ๐
forest edge
I was going to dive down that rabbit hole. not got around to it yet
night zodiac
I had everything correct but forgot to enable the stream integration. ๐
forest edge
did you do the 5 buck thing?
night zodiac
yeah, it's the only option anymore but I've been set up with this ever since it came out
there was a bit of fuckyness for a while with the auth but they have it sorted pretty well I feel
last cedar
I was going to dive down that rabbit hole. not got around to it yet
Nests are usually for birds, not rabbits
forest edge
Nests are usually for birds, not rabbits
your coyote friends teach you that?
last cedar
your coyote friends teach you that?
I read it in a book
"A guide to what animals live where, for raccoons"
From the same publisher as "Electronics for raccoons" and "Recycling is a myth, throw everything away, trust me, I am a raccoon"
I can highly recommend all 3 books
clear ferry
Have you read the followup @last cedar ? How I made a fortune selling doormats and how you can never do it
harsh heath
I always buy everything original & remarkably more capable than enough; but I always have this fear of something catching on fire when I'm away from home, especially for longer periods.
How do you guys keep it all under control? I was thinking about getting a smoke detector that I can integrate. Since my place is 15 square meters, thinking it should work effectively.
I also have a camera that detects motion, but it would be all quite late if there's that big of a fire being detected by the camera
glacial knot
15mยฒ? o.0
harsh heath
eh.. dormitory
glacial knot
get a smoke detector. Worry less
harsh heath
there's one already, from the building management; but it's just an alarm and most fellow students ignore it when it rings in some other room
umbral cliff
there's one already, from the building management; but it's just an alarm and mo...
There's no central fire alarm that if a room catches fire everyone evacuates?
harsh heath
Every room has battery-powered smoke detectors; as well as bathrooms and hallways (I know they're battery powered because they check them every spring); other than that there's an alarm switch on the wall in the main entrance, which would be manually activated by someone if it all goes out of control
I'm in Germany, kinda surprised that they came up with just this. In one building there are about 300 students
umbral cliff
Here (Aus) it's illegal to not have alarms in every room & common area connected to a central fire system. That activates if any trigger, causing evacuation/ alarm and calling the fire department immediately
Similar to what large office buildings have
harsh heath
It should be just like that everywhere, you never trust a student to do something
or humans really
Thing is, even if I get my own, drilling is not allowed, soo some duct tape maybe :P
last cedar
electronics for racoons huh?
That one needed to read the book
last cedar
Have you read the followup <@300242410338910209> ? _How I made a fortune selling...
Not yet, but I am planning to add to it when I have acquired my millionth doormat
polar dagger
glacial knot
you love dentist appointments?
i really don't mind Mondays. Started to dislike them when I was unhappy with my job, but that's a thing of the past
clear ferry
I don't mind dentist appointments. my dentist is fun
I have never disliked a monday, but I have never hated my job either
glacial knot
the first time you typed 4chan into that URL box
keen bridge
Something I've never done actually! And nor do I intend to
clear ferry
Brb check if ogrish is still up
umbral cliff
i really don't mind Mondays. Started to dislike them when I was unhappy with my ...
First Monday I've enjoyed since being on this new project 3 and a bit months ago. But that's because I'm on leave lol
glacial knot
๐คท I enjoy the ones I can work on personal stuff more, but I don't mind if I do my paid for work either
clear ferry
I don't distinguish between personal time and work time, my job is my hobby and I do a lot of non work related stuff while working
Perfect work life balance achieved
glacial knot
It's similar for me. But there's still a difference between full self directed, and having a ticket system
Though it gets a bit nicer once I'm deeper into the project and can pick my tickets better myself
clear ferry
I haven't been in a ticket system for many years
Last time I had on call was probably 2017
Since the company we outsourced to are so shitty, maybe I have to start doing it again
glacial knot
I'm not oncall. But we still got bugs to track
clear ferry
Yuck
I might get involved in the ticket system come think if it, if I take that offer in engineering
glacial knot
mhhm
low harness
Best alt text in a while: https://xkcd.com/2702/
scenic radish
I also have a dentist appointment today
I also have a dentist appointment today...
scenic radish
๐คฃ
forest edge
forest edge
Finally got a spot for the 3d printer
forest edge
@static schooner now whisker is sending me the entire base just to fix the night light issue lol
you would think at some point during the design of this thing they would have minimized the cost in which replacing certain parts.
static schooner
They do an okay job of making parts available for the 3, like the DFI sensors. Maybe they figure that first, every 4 is still under warranty, and second, they don't want to force new owners to do surgery on their unit
just keeping your current one? Now you just need to order a globe to go with your bonnet and you'll have a second unit ๐
forest edge
just keeping your current one? Now you just need to order a globe to go with yo...
exactly lol
I will say we been dealing with this ever since we got the unit back in june? or whatever
static schooner
I suspect that your cats don't care about the nightlight at all
forest edge
I suspect that your cats don't care about the nightlight at all
likely. but I get a lot of interrupts which I think is due to shadows which the night light might solve
static schooner
I hadn't thought about that. I've started wiping the sensor area to make sure there's nothing stuck there
Wiping that area cleared my last sensor failure
clear ferry
wipe better, or else there will be sores
static schooner
Cat litter is so dusty that I feel sympathy for folks working with equipment on the moon.
clear ferry
asbestos you say
static schooner
Saw an interesting anecdote that moon dust is particularly bad because it's all jagged due there being no wind to round it off
forest edge
damn I just got an email with return directions. bastards actually want me to send back the other base
they stated the sensors in the archway cannot be replaced separately. soooo.. that blows for the time when out of warranty lol
may have to do some disassembly of my base prior to sticking it in the box for return lol
static schooner
They should cross ship to let you send it back in the box they send you
They probably want to know what's wrong with it
low harness
Finally got a spot for the 3d printer
That's a fantastic workhorse of a laser printer you got there. I'm not even surprised that's still going(?) after 15-20(?) years.
orchid rose
You joke but Sonoma is actually DIY'ing his 3D printer from its parts. That's what the curtain rods and clothespins are for
static schooner
Squeeze bottles with mechanical clamps
clear ferry
The Incredible Machine you say
The Incredible Machine 2 was also fun
I've spent hundreds of hours playing that
low harness
HP LaserJet 1000, isn't it? Got me through high school.
clear ferry
1000 is pretty modern
I remember the square ones
what was is, 850 ?
no
now I need to find it
Oh yes I've had at least one deskjet 850
I recently replaced my inkjet with a M180n, got it for 500NOK used, and new toner cartridges was NOK750
it has only printed 900 pages, so it's basically new
low harness
Here's the first printer we had:
Took 5 minutes to warm up, but then it could churn out dozens of pages per hour.
clear ferry
Never had a laserwriter, we did have a copier the size of a dishwasher I remember in the early 90s
Don't think it had printing capabilities though
I can still remember the smell of the toner
static schooner
Black lungs, eh?
low harness
I used to print plastic folders with that one. You had to hurry, though. You could get maybe two out before it got to warm and they started melting.
And when they did you had to hurry even more to clean it up before your parents noticed.
clear ferry
We got the IBM PS\1 in 89, we had the commodore before that, but I don't remember we had a printer before maybe 91\92
that was a HP inkjet one for sure
low harness
I can still remember the smell of the toner
Toner with a hint of ozone. Good times.
clear ferry
I'm amazed I haven't had cancer twice already
low harness
God damn it youtube. It's been recommending me steamed ham videos all day for some reason, and now this pops up in my subscriptions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7PRY8s_ssc
forest edge
That's a fantastic workhorse of a laser printer you got there. I'm not even surp...
yea got it from an old job. I have to pipe it through an rpi to network it though
I also have a 4000 tn sitting in my closet but that thing needs to be torn down and deep cleaned
clear ferry
Now for some RE2:RE
I love and hate the remade MrX
Damn boi you hear me from across the fucking city
prisma briar
I never understood why that scene from The Simpsons of all of them got memeified
clear ferry
tropic dew
clear ferry
Saving it hoping it will increase in value
last cedar
Saving it hoping it will increase in value
Is it like whiskey? Gets better with age
forest edge
he's hoping in the future for his descendants that humor will once again return to his people so that one day someone may find interest in comics.
last cedar
Quite probably
clear ferry
I just realized the shortest path to John Carmack for me is three degrees of separation
Are any of you a shorter path for me?
@last cedar surely you are
Or probably @static schooner
They live in the same area and are the same age
dusky plank
clear ferry
I lolled irl
Did not expect that audio
That must be the same guy who does the intro voice of berserk 1997
clear ferry
finite atlas
luckily windows has a trash bin
cedar chasm
sql doesn't :=
clear ferry
del supports where?
clear ferry
sql doesn't :=
Sequel innit bruv
cedar chasm
This is going to break into Gif versus Jif fistacuffs
cedar chasm
Or Star Gate Atlantis Zed-PM vs Zee-PM controversies
clever mortar
sql doesn't :=
Well, no, but you've got rollbacks/redo logs/etc
So ... close enough
cedar chasm
That's for later, after the boss/client has been convinced that a miracle will be required
cedar chasm
McKay would approve
clear ferry
145874123 rows affected
hmm
*sips coffee*
I lolled
cedar chasm
I would break out in a sweat, even if I knew options were still available
clear ferry
Let me tell you about the time that I broke Norwegians storage backend
Just before easter
cedar chasm
lรฆl
clear ferry
Or the time I broke an oil company network for 15 minutes, where each hour lost costs $150k minimum
cedar chasm
I wouldn't have even....
Dead
clear ferry
I can go on
I've broken a lot of stuff in 15 years
But I've never not not fixed it
cedar chasm
There was that one time I called in a service request for a printer that turned out to not be plugged in
My ambitions have not put me in harms way of anything much worse
clear ferry
Considering the systems i have access to it is impressive the country is still working
cedar chasm
I got a hunting license, just in case everything goes to shit and we all have to revert to hunter gatherers
Cause you know, even if society unravels, rules should be observed
finite atlas
yes
clear ferry
cedar chasm
somewhere ey, that seems to fall somewhat short of having a weapon's safe
finite atlas
i have a catana, somewhere
am i a ninja now?
orchid rose
But I've never not not fixed it
That's so many negatives in a row that I'm confused which way to read it
cedar chasm
It's pretty safe if no-one knows where it is
umm, yeah but, ... oh well
finite atlas
It's pretty safe if no-one knows where it is
that is a right assumption
orchid rose
<:what:643951600062300190>
never not = sometimes
never not not = sometimes not
so you have sometimes not fixed it? ๐ค
cedar chasm
Bare in mind that the answer to this question will impact the public's faith in Norwegian institutions, nay the very idea of the Nation of Norway...
Just wait to answer for 30 minutes so I can buy canned foods, toilet paper and ammo
umbral cliff
https://i.redd.it/mdt46lpf413a1.jpg
And that's why you don't commit till you're finally done and ready
clear ferry
Bare in mind that the answer to this question will impact the public's faith in ...
I resemble that remark
cedar chasm
I resemble that remark
green inlet
I resemble that remark
I have never not not resembled that remark
last cedar
<@300242410338910209> surely you are
I am away on a doormat heist atm
cedar chasm
With John Carmack?
low harness
https://i.redd.it/mdt46lpf413a1.jpg
Makes me think of that time I rm -rf ${SYSROT}/bin...
Then I learned about docker and didn't have to try to chroot myself anymore.
glacial knot
Makes me think of that time I `rm -rf ${SYSROT}/bin`...
And SYSROOT wasn't set?
Oh, SYSROT ๐
That's why you should set -u in interactive as well
cedar chasm
That's gotta huyt
cedar chasm
Well, seeing as you're running the better part of the nation's infrastructure from your homelab, I suppose a grateful nation salutes your sacrifice
cedar chasm
https://tenor.com/view/soldier-salut-salute-soldat-gif-14720803
Is this guy getting a parade while I assume the worst?
glacial knot
You don't tip 20% on your groceries?
glacial knot
I wish we had 12%
clear ferry
12 on food and 25 on other stuff
glacial knot
Ahh, then I'm ok with our 7% and 19%
cedar chasm
I also prefer a police force with a 3 year tertiary education as opposed to having the training consist of a Police Academy Movie-Marathon
clear ferry
clever mortar
Slacker
last cedar
Yikes at yesterday <@300242410338910209>
We have an insane cold spell coming next week, prepare for record electric prices
orchid rose
My 4c/kWh contract will end in about 5 days I think
after that it's market price which is at the moment 10x higher and can easily be 25x if it gets colder
keen bridge
I'm playing the game of "chase the energy usage around the house to figure out what's costing me money"
So far I'm pleased to report it's not my home server!
orchid rose
I ordered a couple of smart switches with measuring just for that purpose
keen bridge
I went for more than a couple
orchid rose
But no more sauna for me during early evening :((((
keen bridge
Though I'm annoyed the 8 I'm using right now can't be flashed with tasmotaโso they'll go back once the new replacements arrive
prisma briar
Fun, Unifi locked me out of my offline and isolated instance of my controller because I haven't installed updates.
Fucking idiots.
Not like I need this to work or anything.
It tells me I need to sign in through their stupid cloud service and won't allow direct connections, which I don't use, because that is actually a security issue.
finite atlas
after that it's market price which is at the moment 10x higher and can easily be...
if there would only be a way, to get electricity super cheap yourself..
orchid rose
Northern Finland here so.... ๐
finite atlas
chop wood for your sauna
orchid rose
it sadly runs on electricity
prisma briar
Wood gasifier generator
finite atlas
make it run on burnable fuels
orchid rose
The prices are really high right now because wind and solar are both producing nothing. It's really a grave we dug for ourselves by trying to buy a nuclear power plant from the French
finite atlas
french..
orchid rose
It was supposed to open in 2009 I think. It's still not producing energy
finite atlas
would probably been faster and cheaper to do it yourself
orchid rose
Nah we bought another one from Russians instead. What could possibly go wrong? Oh wait
prisma briar
Wow UniFi. Lock me out because I didn't install updates then you don't even support the latest release of Debian yet which was released in August 2021.
Being pointlessly difficult isn't 'security'. =/
orchid rose
I thought Unify was supposed to be a good one. Maybe it's because I like the styling on their customer grade stuff
finite atlas
Nah we bought another one from Russians instead. What could possibly go wrong? O...
the russian one at least works
just how safely for how long?
prisma briar
I thought Unify was supposed to be a good one. Maybe it's because I like the sty...
Their APs have been solid for me but I hate their controller software
It randomly breaks for no reason at all
orchid rose
the russian one at least works
just how safely for how long?
It didn't even get to the building stage before the project was halted earlier this year
prisma briar
This is like the third time I've had to reinstall it in the last 2 years
last cedar
I'm playing the game of "chase the energy usage around the house to figure out w...
Just hook up to the nearest lamp post and never worry about power usage again! /s
Raccoon approved method of cutting your bills
clear ferry
So far I'm pleased to report it's not my home server!
Whistling
Tbf, my server rack only pulls about 15% of the house usage
prisma briar
Way to have no reasonable upgrade path, Unifi. Instead of just installing an update and having it all upgrade like it should be I get to install another VM to upgrade the Mongo database to an intermediate version because they skipped two major releases for some stupid reason.
orchid rose
Should have just used Windows like a normal person -Unify probably
last cedar
Tbf, my server rack only pulls about 15% of the house usage
I would say that computers are about 1/3 of my usage
Pretty crazy tbh
prisma briar
Should have just used Windows like a normal person -Unify probably
The kind of customer Unifi targets is going to be mixed and far from just Windows.
prisma briar
Yea, I'm irritated by this, heh. This update is taking way longer than it should and it's entirely down to Unifi's gross incompetence.
And for how much was spent on these APs I expect better than this.
prisma briar
Or just people who need features that consumer junk doesn't provide
prisma briar
Not sure how what you're rambling about is relevant.
clear ferry
I am just used to seeing the unifi users complaining about how shit the products are, yet continue to buy them at a premium
prisma briar
I'm strongly considering putting openwrt on them. It seems like all of the issues I've ever had were due to their awful software.
I don't use any of the rest of the Unifi junk, I only have their APs. I've heard their switches and routers are way worse with problems like this.
orchid rose
my openwrt keeps crashing and the HDD connected to it (my "NAS") doesn't stay with its head parked. 3/10 would not recommend
prisma briar
I am just used to seeing the unifi users complaining about how shit the products...
The next step up in APs is generally like 2x-3x the price per unit though, that's more than most prosumers would be able to justify for their houses.
I've had openwrt and ddwrt devices before. I switched from a random hodgepodge of hacked routers to Unifi like 4 years ago because my random 10 year old garbage hacked routers were starting to die.
I wish I'd just bought a couple nice routers and kept with *wrt though.
static schooner
My Unifi APs (AC LR) started out fine, got really bad for a while where I got sick of them dropping connections and going dead, but have recovered in the last year+ to where I don't think about them anymore
prisma briar
Yea, they finally fixed them with one of the firmware releases earlier this year
I was having to reset my AP AC Pro every 3 or 4 days because it'd start having issues letting clients connect and with packet loss
static schooner
I used to have a lot of trouble where the 2.4G network would stay functional while the 5G network would be up and have no connectivity
drove me nuts
prisma briar
Same, I had completely disabled 5G for a while.
I think it was the 6.x releases that fixed it and the 5.x releases that had the problem
It's crazy how a company can screw up the firmware on a previously-working device and just leave it for so long.
static schooner
You're probably right. I used to update all the time to their betas back in the 3.x/4.x timeframe, then they completely hosed their forums and I just stopped tracking their releases. That's one of the reasons the instability was so frustrating - I felt like they completely abandoned the community
prisma briar
I only knew about the changes because I happened to randomly run into a Unifi employee on Discord
static schooner
I deleted the bookmark to whatever replaced their forum a long time ago
yeah, I have their Discord server in my sidebar, but never visit
prisma briar
I can't remember what but they had some rule in their Discord that seemed BS so I left as soon as I joined.
static schooner
in any case, I haven't had any significant issues in a long time, so I've been focused on other stuff
also haven't felt the need to upgrade to Wifi6, as not enough stuff supports it yet
if I need bandwidth, I hardwire
I can more than max out my external net connection with my current Wifi setup, and that's all I really care about
prisma briar
I was considering wifi6, I haven't found any APs I'm really interested in though.
People have been reporting problems with the UniFi wifi6 stuff all over
clear ferry
The next step up in APs is generally like 2x-3x the price per unit though, that'...
I paid $150 for my 3 wifi6 mesh aps, covers my entire house, plus driveway plus garden, and my last test showed they did 900Mbit throughput
Consumer grade
prisma briar
I paid about that for my two UniFi AC APs when I got them ~4 years ago
At the time none of the consumer-targeted ones supported vlans or radius and Unifi was about the only reasonably priced prosumer option.
clear ferry
Yeah, I have no need for neither VLAN nor radius in my home network, I have dedicated enterprise grade APs for that in my lab
prisma briar
RADIUS was mostly me testing configurations before deploying them at work, VLANs are because I don't trust my IoT devices or any of the crap the people I live with use and want them on their own network.
clear ferry
So, you should have a network lab you say, and less annoying people
or just do proper firewall rules instead
no outgoing for your IoT bois!
prisma briar
That's basically what I do. I enforce the firewall rules per-subnet. Having IoT junk on a separate vlan also lets me isolate it from my non-privileged wifi and things that might get compromised on that network.
I also have client isolation on that network so all the IoT junk is isolated away from the rest of the IoT junk/can only reach my HA server
clear ferry
I just don't buy stuff that isn't local
prisma briar
I don't trust stuff that claims to only be local.
clear ferry
Zigbee would have a hard time reaching the internet for example
and, just block it in the firewall
problem solved
tinfoil off
prisma briar
I'm not running a camera over Zigbee though.
clear ferry
sure, I run the cheapest poe cameras from aliexpress
they never talk to the internet
prisma briar
I got a bunch of cheap-ass Amcrest cameras, unless I restrict them they'll send ~10Mb/s out to some random server in China.
clear ferry
yes
prisma briar
Found a bunch of used ones for $50 on Craigslist
prisma briar
Until they switch their MAC address and get a new lease/IP like Amcrest devices are known to do
Which is really stupid
clear ferry
I have never seen a network device do that outside of very specific firmware upgrades
and I've worked with network products for 20+ years 
prisma briar
There's a few forum posts about cameras that use their smart app doing that I found when looking, and mine did it too. ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
clear ferry
it did when it was blocked in firewall ? It changed a mac address out of the blue ?
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prisma briar
https://amcrest.com/forum/ip-cameras-f18/ad410-changed-to-random-mac--t15703.html https://ipcamtalk.com/threads/wifi-cameras-changing-mac-id.55347/ There's other threads too.
People mostly report it changes it out of the blue but I noticed mine doing it when it was blocked from reaching the internet.
clear ferry
Nobody mentions they are blocked from the internet
So I'm guessing they recieved an update, that renumerated the MAC
also the mac address mentioned in the first thread doesn't even exist in a database
prisma briar
Devices can use whatever mac they want, it doesn't have to exist in a database.
clear ferry
It doesn't but it makes it even less plausible
prisma briar
No it doesn't
clear ferry
ok
prisma briar
Says the 'network product user of 20+ years' who can't seem to fathom a device that, gasp, violates a standard.
prisma briar
I'm not a lawyer but I've never heard of any consumer protections that would address something like that.
I think that'd require lawmakers to be way more technologically literate than they are
Our lawmakers are stuck pretending it's 1850 still and all that newfangled technology can be ignored.
clear ferry
Sounds about right
orchid rose
#neuland
prisma briar
Fun, I think another one of my WiZ lights died. Can't get it to go into pairing mode anymore and it won't connect to wifi.
It's odd, the bulb seems to think it's connected already and won't go into pairing mode. I wonder if one of my neighbors claimed it or something...
cedar chasm
Sounds like a good pitch for zigbee lights to me, though I have no dog in your fight for the smart home of your choice.
prisma briar
I've only had 2 out of 48 bulbs fail so far, so ~5% failure rate.
cedar chasm
Good show, sounds good
prisma briar
And the other one died after like a day so I just exchanged it
The other one the red channel died on
prisma briar
I would have gone with Zigbee but the WiZ bulbs were around 1/4th the price of the comparable Zigbee Hue bulbs.
And there wasn't a lot of consistency in the random Chinese Zigbee bulbs I tried.
clear ferry
yeah, my zigbee bulbs have been $5-9 each
the wiz was $12 on discount, so I wanted to try it as it was rgbw
prisma briar
They're generally around $10 on the shelves here. I've seen them on sale a couple times too.
clear ferry
retail the wiz was $16 I think