but idk if you will know until you actually get it
#the-water-cooler
hollow glacier
tender jewel
it's all so confusing :/
hollow glacier
it shouldnt be
im giving you advice i learned the hard way and by talking to people on reddit/discord and youtube
tender jewel
Looks like this amazon store has "all the stuff" and is local to me
https://www.amazon.com.au/stores/Comgrow/page/6CD8C2DF-F03E-4C44-A02F-BA7219F0C852?ref_=ast_bln
hollow glacier
basically buy ender 3v2 then you need to replace the bowden tube (white tube it comes with) with a capricorn tube for safety and it also prints a bit better because less slack in filament pushing through the tube. then you use the yellow bed springs instead of the stock ones because the stock ones dont have enough tension and they let the bed get unlevel. then you replace the extruder arm assembly with that aluminum one because the plastic one it comes with fuckin breaks and it also cant handle pushing filament as well as the aluminum one with dual gears (the stock one has a tensioner and one gear)
comgrow is a good company, definitely worth buying from them. you can even buy refurbs from them even cheaper but i wouldnt do that as a first printer
tender jewel
good to know, thanks
hollow glacier
yep
edge of tech has great videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gokN9xNG94U i followed this guide a long time ago. probably better out there but i liked how he went over how to properly square the frame and went over tightening the eccentric nuts for the wheels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6FZjkWcW2g this guy might go over some stuff that the others missed idk
tender jewel
Sec, time to order take-out Thai for dinner 🙂
hollow glacier
addons i like
That’s what mine look like
https://github.com/InsanityAutomation/Marlin/tree/CrealityDwin_2.0 this is the precompiled marlin firmware i use instead of the stock that comes with it
forest edge
is the v sign in britain really that offensive?
tender jewel
It means “f**k you”
When v is showing the back of your hand. When it’s the other way around it means “peace” (or victory)
forest edge
so what's the middle finger mean? fuck me?
tender jewel
It’s probably a slightly cruder or stronger f-you
I suppose it’s regional. Sometimes v sign is as mild as “up yours”
clear ferry
It means “f**k you”
I was told it was from the French with I've still got my two fucking fingers during the 100 year war and archers
clear ferry
How to walk in front of a filming gym person - https://v.redd.it/r2crs09hw5q91
last cedar
I was told it was from the French with _I've still got my two fucking fingers_ d...
I was told this too
clear ferry
Like someone would tell a racoon anything!
forest edge
I was told this too
I watched a video that brought that up but it was quite clear it was just legend and there was no factual data to support it.
last cedar
Like someone would tell a racoon anything!
I get told I am such a cutie very often, as I steal peoples doormats
clear ferry
You missed a N in there somewhere
last cedar
You missed a N in there somewhere
Oftenn?
clear ferry
orchid rose
lol people bring ring lights to gyms
forest edge
fallow karma
orchid rose
That whole sub is golden
oh dear lord you weren't wrong
ashen parrot
glacial knot
Na, Michelle is a french dude name. Not italian
last cedar
Oh, that one
Well I guess the real question is, "is ChrisRosenkreuz23 a human name?"
Honestly, I never saw it, and now I have I am not at all ofended 😄
ashen parrot
historically speaking, I don't think it is (the original signified possibly used as a literary device, as these secret societies often play-act their origin stories into existence)
ashen parrot
Na, Michelle is a french dude name. Not italian
oh yeah michel
last cedar
Sounds like my actual house
ashen parrot
wait, you mean you're an actual raccoon?
last cedar
Of course
I am here to gain info about peoples security systems to aid doormat stealing
ashen parrot
but how can you ennunciate
last cedar
I mean have a good time and tease atx about having so many servers
ashen parrot
I mean the typing thing is pretty easy probably because of fingers
last cedar
They are covered in trash though
ashen parrot
do you know what a hypersigil is?
last cedar
I googled it quickly and it didn't really give me the answer, so I will say no
ashen parrot
it's like the reverse of when a writer writes himself into the play
ashen parrot
like when the play out-writes itself into his reality
you seen Atlanta season 4?
the documentary about Goofy and his creator is the best example of this
glacial knot
Did a dog walk into his place walking up right?
last cedar
you seen Atlanta season 4?
I am a raccoon, I don't have TV
glacial knot
Do you have didney+ though?
last cedar
I have about 27000 doormats
clear ferry
I am very much not French or a dude
Oh no, my fantasies are broken
empty scarab
@midnight adder Is a scam account. Sorry not familiar with this server so i don't know where to report this
young sigil
<@456226577798135808> Is a scam account. Sorry not familiar with this server so ...
Post a screenshot of the scam you received.
empty scarab
They didn't get far. Asked for " a minute of my time"
They then deleted their message and blocked me
twilit locust
👆same problem
static schooner
last cedar
I might have said before, echo show 15, oh my lord what a monster
Would make a fantastic dashboard from what I saw
glacial knot
my mother is waiting for it to go on sale
to use it for Alexa and as Calendar dashboard
last cedar
3000 sek, seems quite reasonable tbh
orchid rose
How much functionality does it have with HASS? I was looking at it and thought that could be pog
Not that Bezos would even sell it here... 😦
clear ferry
Lulz Amazon
orchid rose
I don't understand these connectivity issues with ESP32s... One that's maybe 3m away from my router just stopped working all of the sudden recently. I tried a new cable, I tried a new ESP32, I tried rewiring the led strip it's connected to, but nothing works. Another one a few meters further back started working perfectly once I swapped the ESP board to one with a small external antenna
Meanwhile neither my phone nor my laptop have any connectivity issues in the same spots
I hate wifi 🤬
orchid rose
Not merged
finite atlas
I hate wifi 🤬
use an ethernet esp32 instead
clear ferry
ITHERNITT JA
orchid rose
use an ethernet esp32 instead
At three meter distance, nah. I've had no issues with esp8266
pallid willow
gotta love vcenter upgrades
the cpu is (literally) off the charts!
ooooooh i hate the new esxi client
this sucks
night zodiac
have you tried to unplug it and plug it back in?
I finally have been redoing desk stuffs
tender jewel
@hollow glacier Ender-3 V2 or Ender-3 V2 Neo ? The latter already has steel bed, and auto-bed-levelling. Worth the au$60 extra?
https://www.amazon.com.au/Creality-Motherboard-Meanwell-Carborundum-220x220x250mm/dp/B07FFTHMMN/
vs
https://www.amazon.com.au/Ender-3-V2-Printer-Integrated-Upgrade/dp/B08BL41ZMY
night zodiac
Sovol sv01
hollow glacier
<@237771007228641292> Ender-3 V2 or Ender-3 V2 Neo ? The latter already...
i like my glass bed but the spring steel are popular. that says pc not pei tho. the cr touch is like $40 on its own so not a bad idea. it also comes with an aluminum extruder but it's still the shit designed one (it uses the tensioner not dual gear) so i'd still upgrade it at some point
night zodiac
Thanks. All of these are Hue in this room
hollow glacier
Still need spring upgrades, and that tube?
yes
wait no it looks like it comes with the yellow springs
night zodiac
Check out the sovol sv01 for an ender 3.
hollow glacier
3d printer talk
night zodiac
They are nice out of the box.
ashen parrot
with openrgb you can connect all the lights into a group in HA, and have that single entity change in sync with whatever movie is playing when you start vlc
night zodiac
I have Hue entertainment api stuff
hollow glacier
rip
ashen parrot
and it can do that?
hollow glacier
hue entertainment is worse than diy with led strips etc
ashen parrot
dunno, I stay away from high priced stuff when I can get the same for cheaper
hollow glacier
wled + hyperion + whatever else you want can do magic
hollow glacier
hue's implementation of sync behind tv is so much worse than hyperion/hyperhdr
night zodiac
That's cool
hollow glacier
and i say this as someone who owns 40+ hue bulbs (on zigbee2mqtt not their shit hub)
ashen parrot
wled + hyperion + whatever else you want can do magic
yeah hyperion is way better than what I mentioned, but the one I mentioned doesn't need setting up as a server separately
it averages out the display color at any time
hollow glacier
hyperion or hyperhdr can be ran as an addon inside haos
ashen parrot
and feeds it to a single "bulb"
hollow glacier
i've been using it for a year that way
ashen parrot
hyperion or hyperhdr can be ran as an addon inside haos
RLY? omg I didn't know, Im soo gonna fuck with that
hollow glacier
yep
here
i moved from hyperion to hyperhdr (fork of hyperion) and i think it is a bit better
ashen parrot
I checked out hyperion a long time ago, it probably changed in the meantime so thanks for this
hollow glacier
it includes hdr support and hdr to sdr tone mapping
and just generally seems to provide better colors even for non hdr setups
ashen parrot
yeah back then it needed a Pi or something, and I didn't have it so I just looked for other stuff
hollow glacier
i use hyperion android grabber on nvidia shields
and a d1 mini esp8266 behind tv running wled
ashen parrot
wait so this setup still needs wled
like, I can't just set up hyper hdr and run it like that can i?
hmm can't openrgb be used instead of wled?
hollow glacier
it needs something to control the leds with
either a pi with gpio or esp or something
wled can talk to openrgb
wled isnt needed specifically, it's just what i use in my setup
if you have an LG tv you might be able to root it and save a couple steps too
ashen parrot
thats awesome
that's what Im lookin for, to go around the wled thing cos I can't be bothered getting a D1, couldn't find one in my area and I won't order from amazon cos I'd end up paying 10x more than the actual board for the transport
my leds are sonoff L1 which I don't think are individually addressable
+extension
umbral cliff
Hmm if an esp chip heats up rapidly and draws 0.5a at 3.3v it's probably fried isn't it 😂
forest edge
just means it's been overclocked
orchid rose
Maybe it has an intel inside
night zodiac
gf visited her parents and brought home a ton of christmas decorations powered by AC bulbs. 🙂
fire hazard warnings everywhere. LED treatment incoming.
lofty jacinth
Yikes
night zodiac
they sit inside of little houses and such
a bunch of AC plugs all running to a power strip. I'm going to make them all chain off of each other
forest edge
did you plug it in to make sure it wasn't a flickering bulb?
I still find the older incandescent bulbs look better than led inside objects
orchid rose
There are good and bad LEDs
Imo the only place where incandescent still has a place is when the wires are clearly visible, like the "Edison style" bulbs. The thin strings just look better than fat blobs of leds
forest edge
Imo the only place where incandescent still has a place is when the wires are cl...
you'd stick an led in a salt lamp?
orchid rose
I've never tried it, but I don't see why not?
forest edge
I've never tried it, but I don't see why not?
lol no, those need the heat
forest edge
why does a salt lamp need heat?
midnight adder
lol negative ions bullshit
orchid rose
I'm getting some ancient eastern medicine vibes from this
midnight adder
i mean ye salt is hygroscopic you can get it dry again whit heating
the rest is so vaporware 😂
because you know, water evaporation
forest edge
lol negative ions bullshit
not saying the amount produced from a salt lamp does this but actual ionizers do eliminate odors in a room
seen that first hand
midnight adder
ye if you push like 2kW in a Ozone generator
not if you warm a salt chunk with 30W of power
ashen parrot
salt is whatis used inside nukes for the triggers
it's not the impact which triggers the atomic reaction for the uranium but the impact triggers the molten salt
midnight adder
nukes are typically not impact triggered because you do not want the radiation fallout spread with the dust, they are typically triggered a few hundered meters above ground by an initial explosion that starts the nuclear reaction
you can use different materials as moderator to stop them from reacting to early
but that has nothing to do with a salt lamp
ashen parrot
umm yes it does because the salt
forest edge
hate on salt lamps all you like. some people like them.
they do give off a nice ambient light tho
forest edge
well salt absorbs water in the air
midnight adder
ye right, we were there, you can dry them with heat
orchid rose
In significant volumes it can stabilize humidity yeah
midnight adder
or lower the ambient humidity ye
but still, there are better ways to do that, even self regulating ones
ashen parrot
hmm yeah now I see that's a special type of nuke. you were right about the regular nukes but thisjust goes to show how the principle does indeed relate to the salt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salted_bomb
midnight adder
If you want a nice looking chunk of salt, buy a salt Lamp, if you want to control the humidity or clean the air from pollution, get an airfilter with an ionizing UV Lamp (not the Placebo ones with LEDs) and a Bag of Moisture absorbant(you can even buy them self leveling to like 55% or 60% rel. Hum)
forest edge
If you want a nice looking chunk of salt, buy a salt Lamp, if you want to contro...
sometimes the simplest things are the best
just like how they are finding out that incandescent and halogen bulbs do better for your mental health over leds
midnight adder
have nor read a single study about that, that hold up to the peer review
ashen parrot
peer review is not part of the scientific method
midnight adder
it is
forest edge
have nor read a single study about that, that hold up to the peer review
kind of like climate change
lol
ashen parrot
no, it isn't it's only part of academia
forest edge
I dunno, they do seem to go back and forth on it still
ashen parrot
it is redundant. Reproducing an experiment doesn't need appeal to authority
midnight adder
but all studies you find do not correctly list the Spectrum emitted by the LEDs or the type of driver they were using
forest edge
I think it's the flicker
midnight adder
ye which would be due to the driver
you can get rid of the flicker if you do it right
forest edge
even when we don't perceive a flicker apparently there is one
midnight adder
even if you PWM drive an LED you can just rise the frequency and then smooth it out with Caps
and you get a nice DC
without measurable flicker
forest edge
you can get rid of the flicker if you do it right
no i think that is the point, I think they stated that there is and always will be. they just got better at minimizing it
midnight adder
I studied Electronics, I know what the heck i‘m talking about
that’s basically what i‘m doing daily
ashen parrot
well you support peer review which kind of makes me doubt
midnight adder
I mean, in that part of EL development you can just measure it
even with cheap hardware at home
forest edge
not finding anything that states they eliminated all flickering
but do keep running into the mental health stuff lol
midnight adder
not the CRI but you can measure the flicker just by probing your Vreg out
if you get a nice DC output your LED is flicker free
forest edge
I wonder if a lot of this is referring to dimmer leds
midnight adder
and you could use a resistive load to current limit your LED instead of using PWM dimming and that behind a linear Vreg or use a fixed current linear Vreg and you will have no flicker even when dimming
ye a lot of cheap LED deivers still use slow PWM dimming and are not well smoothed out on the Vout
forest edge
you keep saying "could" which makes me think that such products don't exists yet
midnight adder
but that does not mean that it’s impossible to make them flicker free
midnight adder
you keep saying "could" which makes me think that such products don't exists yet
they do, they are just more expensive and do not fit into a E27 style bulb for example
forest edge
ah
midnight adder
but you can find them in high quality workspace lighting
I even have one hanging on my workbench
forest edge
well see. so the studies are accurate because of the limitations
midnight adder
it’s a 700€ LED lamp
midnight adder
well see. so the studies are accurate because of the limitations
yes but no, they do not state what kind of LED was used at which frequency and then it compares that to a glowing piece of metal
forest edge
well one thing i read said the flicker is still there upwards of 150hz
our eyes can't see it, but our brains do
midnight adder
If they would test cheap and expensive LEDs and measure there CRI and flicker frequency they would conclude „cheap LEDs may lead to health issues, well designed ones are fine“
ever publication I saw so far concluded „leds are a health risk“ and thats plain wrong
forest edge
„cheap LEDs may lead to health issues, well designed ones are fine“
there's something to print on the box lol
midnight adder
and there is a biochemical reaction that converts photons hitting your retina into electrical signals which can be saturated completely, you can even measure that. It’s dependent on the amount of photons hitting your eye though so it’s not a fixed frequency
you can not say „the Retina is saturated at 300hz“ for example
that might be the case at like 500lx but not at 150lx
and I think it was something arround 1khz where this reaction was always saturated so everything over that does not get trough to the brain because the Electrochemical reaction in the eyes is to slow
ashen parrot
that's disappointingly luddite of him
forest edge
it's hard to know which of that is true and which is people just posting crap
clear ferry
He's a scam, and has always been, I'm just glad something is finally happening that will show it
Maybe Tesla will cave finally
With their 10 year promise of Autonomous driving
orchid rose
our eyes can't see it, but our brains do
Other way around
Eyes are just sensors, brain just fucks with the input data
scenic radish
Why does there need to be what seems like a daily argument in this channel 🤣
forest edge
argument?
ashen parrot
He's a scam, and has always been, I'm just glad something is finally happening t...
I try to stay neutral for things like him, mainly because phenomena like that become big artificially and then they come down all on their own. He doesn't need my hate, he'll just reveal himself all on his own given enough time. That doesn't mean the man is devoid of value though
clear ferry
Just like Steve Jobs, he was very good at yelling at smart people till stuff was made
Other than that he had very little value
midnight adder
Though he wanted to delist it
night zodiac
Why does there need to be what seems like a daily argument in this channel 🤣
I'd argue there is more than one. /s
forest edge
led flicker is just affecting his mental health
oh wonderful, they are replacing some machined metal parts on helicopters with 3d printed ones. makes ya feel all warm inside
clear ferry
I'd argue there is more than one. /s
For some magical reason I've actually stopped arguing in here
forest edge
also known as becoming a dud
glacial knot
For some magical reason I've actually stopped arguing in here
Maybe it's your blocklist
clear ferry
scenic radish
🤢
untold quest
There are some good points in this article, maybe HA can be the first to do that https://techxplore.com/news/2022-11-smart-home-hubs-users-vulnerable.html
scenic radish
someone posted that on the forum too, and i replied with this:
I suspect anyone who wants to break into a house will throw a brick through a window or kick a door in, not spend the time intercepting and analyzing data to/from a home assistant instance that they have somehow determined is at a specific home address.
umbral cliff
someone posted that on the forum too, and i replied with this:
> I suspect anyon...
I'm sure it's valid for people of elevated importance (eg politicians, celebrities, etc) but they can afford a proper home security system anyway so if someone breaks in police will be there within X time
Saw on an article the other day about how locks are a social construct of a "you're not meant to be in here" and it's very accurate. People can still get in even if a door is locked, just they want the easier targets
static schooner
Like leaving your lights off on Halloween is a social construct for "I really bought this candy for me"
keen bridge
It's like the lock picking lawyer on YouTube, locks keep the mostly honest folks out. My smart lock is infinitely more secure than a dumb lock simply because it automatically locks which removes the dumb and forgetful human from the equation.
forest edge
@tidal bronze you wanted the latest cali news. https://youtu.be/dl3WnlocNpw
This just in.. Roaches scatter.
static schooner
San Diego absent 👍
rapid plinth
There are some good points in this article, maybe HA can be the first to do that...
Fully local systems like HA are almost completely immune to the main attack type they're talking about. Unless they're on prem sniffing your wifi of ZigBee networks, in which case you arguably had a breach already
And really, "how much do you care?" is a very legitimate question, as tediore alluded to
umbral cliff
Fully local systems like HA are almost completely immune to the main attack type...
Or if you expose your instance to the internet without a password. Which is surprisingly common lol
rapid plinth
Well that's a totally different and much older form of attack
umbral cliff
They're still looking at your traffic. Just completely exposed lol
glacial knot
what?
umbral cliff
I dunno. I'm bored at work and half asleep
God help anyone having to read my work in the end
glacial knot
working at this hour 😂
glacial knot
Saw on an article the other day about how locks are a social construct of a "you...
Also legal and insurance thing. Can't pretend you didn't know you aren't supposed to be there
umbral cliff
working at this hour 😂
You mean at 4pm?
umbral cliff
That is what east coast Australia on daylight saving time is
forest edge
pretty solid deal for anyone still looking for a mesh system. https://www.amazon.com/Netgear-Nighthawk-System-3-Pack-Renewed/dp/B08XWVXHCX
would certianly pick this over like the eero
tender jewel
It's kindof an amazing device that's compatible with "laptop" and is over 100,000 volts 🙂
polar dagger
you should store the kokain somewhere else 😄
clear ferry
Relevant Rammstein for you Stefan
https://open.spotify.com/track/5vsD7190tljIoeaezvki5S?si=E_P0uuLCSEyKA48RhTg5fg&utm_source=copy-link
polar dagger
hrhr ;D
clear ferry
green inlet
I am extremely allergic to snow.
forest edge
lol starting to see more and more posts and comments on various sites trying to remind people that if they have older cell phones laying around to recycle cause of the potential fire hazard they could become at any time
wonder if i am in danger
clever mortar
If your phone is old enough, just remove the easily removable battery
clever mortar
I'm used to seeing low quality "guides", but that one looks to take the biscuit
clear ferry
forest edge
I'm used to seeing low quality "guides", but that one looks to take the biscuit
what makes it low quality? you referring to the lack of pictures?
scenic radish
Whoever took that screenshot didn't read the text that they circled 🤣
scenic radish
what makes it low quality? you referring to the lack of pictures?
Probably because the guide refers to HACS having add-ons, but HACS does not have add-ons
forest edge
oh. I pretty much ignore that stuff since the word play means very little
clever mortar
It shows clearly that the person who wrote it hasn't a damn clue
forest edge
that's subjective
clever mortar
Nah
They said that you need HACS for add-ons, that's a lack of clue
The instructions are even wrong
It's pretty hard to assume they know their ass from their elbow after that
forest edge
well I'll give you that since you don't even install the broker through hacs but as for the word play.. that's still minor imo
clear ferry
Hey, no need to assume they have elbows
forest edge
I run across a whole lot of guides that refer to hac's integrations as addons. it's not confusing to the person following it
the very act is kind of a "add on"
clear ferry
I want to play around with room presence at some point, guessing espresense is the best choice with esp only, don't want to use RÆSSBØRRI PAIHs
scenic radish
HACS is not an add-on
forest edge
HACS is not an add-on
why is that upsetting to you?
to the average person, they are "adding on" to a HA install.. the word dosen't make people mess up
scenic radish
The terminology might not be confusing to them until they talk about "add-ons" here or on the forum when they're really referring to integrations and someone corrects them
Also, if you're writing a guide about something, you should probably know what you're talking about including terminology
forest edge
i'll give you that, but the whole thing is fighting against what makes logical sense to people. it's not their fault
like sky divers who call it "flying"
clever mortar
Sadly we still can't fix stupid, or lazy
clear ferry
Ah, life is so quiet when you don't have to contend with stupid all the time
Oh that wasn't the right gif
It'll have to do
forest edge
look at this joker
last cedar
https://tenor.com/view/doris-beach-indonesia-relax-summer-gif-21050372
|| Omg feet ||
last cedar
❤️
forest edge
Sadly we still can't fix stupid, or lazy
If you watch the news enough or dive down the rabbit hole of articles pertaining how society is anymore then you know that is something that is only going to get worse, never better.
I been out of the workforce for so long and soooooo much has changed that I really don't think I could work with other people without either offending someone on a daily basis or getting fired
forest edge
@tidal bronze saw it got down into the 40's there. did you freeze to death?
glacial knot
still some temporary wiring, but the shelf looks good with LEDs 🙂
clear ferry
まんがか
glacial knot
漫画 です
glacial knot
まんが
clear ferry
-.-
glacial knot
Hm?
glacial knot
Yes D: but I also double checked the Kanji o.0
clear ferry
てめ
clear ferry
clear ferry
finite atlas
how much server stuff do you need to run you smart door?
atx: yes
static schooner
busy day at catbox central:
rapid plinth
Hum. I have an old RPi 3B that I don't really know what to do with
midnight adder
i added power monitoring 😄 funny to see the voltage drop when i draw a lot of power
tidal bronze
<@331255319365812224> saw it got down into the 40's there. did you freeze to dea...
43 was not bad. Thanksgiving drinking started last Saturday felt like 71 😆
finite atlas
Hum. I have an old RPi 3B that I don't really know what to do with
be a scalper and sell it
rapid plinth
What? Are they worth something right now?
finite atlas
yes
static schooner
3 million dollars...
pallid willow
fun
dang last i checked they were like 25
i guess raspberry pi's are high-demand right now
forest edge
43 was not bad. Thanksgiving drinking started last Saturday felt like 71 😆
when things get rough you all just open a wine bottle huh?
forest edge
lol sounds about right.. calis's.. bad weather? drink more! aliens? drink more? economical problems? drink more!
tidal bronze
Drinking solves many things, specifically if you start at 8:30AM. I thought you knew🤔
forest edge
guess if my state was known for beach babes and sun but lost the babes and half the sun I would resort to drinking too I suppose lol
tidal bronze
We are never short of that, and will not be anytime soon.
Cabernet Sauvignon braised beef short ribs, what babes?
Got to get back to my cooking, ham is waiting.
forest edge
lol
maybe with this mass exodus in california going on, after the smoke clears maybe your state will try and go back to attracting tourist and make it worthwhile me visiting
tidal bronze
Don't worry about things we don't worry about. Come visit. I will make you a believer.
tidal bronze
BTW with all you say, 2021 still the world's 5th largest economy. We be alright. 😄 Get flight or if you are afraid of flying greyhound. Many things to see.
tidal bronze
Oh that's close to my place. Beautiful!
ashen parrot
you know looking into a fire brings the brain to alpha state
gives you hallucinations staring into the flames
ashen parrot
yes many things to see
so technically this is true :))
tidal bronze
gives you hallucinations staring into the flames
Yep for people that see a flame for the first time. 😆
ashen parrot
no, lol
you try it, and stick with it a few minutes
you'll start remembering weird shit, and get transposed
tidal bronze
Oh maybe that's what makes us excel then. Things you learn in a day.
umbral cliff
Bushfires bring more life to plants. Cycle of life. Means Cali is fresher
forest edge
Oh maybe that's what makes us excel then. Things you learn in a day.
boozed up staring at your land on fire makes you excel.. at what? getting more alcohol?
tidal bronze
Bushfires bring more life to plants. Cycle of life. Means Cali is fresher
That's how we make 35% of the produce 😀
@forest edge what's your largest export? Guitar picks?
scenic radish
Salt
static schooner
Nonsense about California
forest edge
<@104768700069990400> what's your largest export? Guitar picks?
financial advice. why else do you bastards keep coming here lol
course now with weed being legalized we may be a contender for the largest export of purple haze
last cedar
BTW with all you say, 2021 still the world's 5th largest economy. We be alright....
That may be how it got to the point where people need to have a mass exodus!
forest edge
statistics don't change overnight. it may be another year or two till he realizes they dropped from 5th to 205th
i need to stop updating my farm ha instance for this year. don't need something to cause me to go out into the cold to fix it
tidal bronze
statistics don't change overnight. it may be another year or two till he realize...
Won't happen in your lifetime. Sorry.
forest edge
Won't happen in your lifetime. Sorry.
solid like crypto currency huh?
you must really fear the exodus to texas lol
tidal bronze
That may be how it got to the point where people need to have a mass exodus!
It's not for everyone, it's pretty expensive or very expensive. Incoming is like 18x with new money so it gets even harder. Me personally, love it.
tidal bronze
Less the better. Just like where I live. Seeing people around is not fun.
tidal bronze
You should only have to say hello to neighbors, few times a month on whatsapp, if that. 🤣
forest edge
what you gonna do when public service workers exodus as well?
no more trash pick up or the thing you fear the most, no more uber eats
tidal bronze
Texas, LMAO
forest edge
hey don't be knocking texas.. they still producing blondes lol
tidal bronze
Yep, exactly LMAO
ashen parrot
Michelle how come you don't use puns much
forest edge
@umbral cliffaussies actually use remote pull cords to turn on lights? wtf
umbral cliff
<@137144563109330944>aussies actually use remote pull cords to turn on lights? w...
What? No?
Never seen that. Lights turned on by a switch on the wall
UK has the pull cord thing
rapid plinth
remote pull cords? I haven't heard of that, though I've seen a thing where one fixture has a pull cord and successive fixtures are wired into it
forest edge
just watched a video where a dude replaced the remote pull cord and light fixture in bathroom with an led light and kinetic light switch for the wall. course the wall switch was placed outside of the bathroom which is funny in itself
but i have never seen a remote device that attaches to the ceiling with a pull cord to act as a switch
glacial knot
UK has the pull cord thing
I'm always amused when I see those outside toilets 😄
umbral cliff
my bad, the dude sounded australian but this was in england
UK electrical laws include limited electrical fittings in bathrooms. So pull cords are done to get around that (iirc)
Australia you can have a power point next to the shower or sink lol
glacial knot
so you are saying that it's easier to grill an australian?
forest edge
Australia you can have a power point next to the shower or sink lol
that's not weird, they are allowed here too but have to be gfi
umbral cliff
that's not weird, they are allowed here too but have to be gfi
Weird for some places overseas
Also granted our entire houses have RCDs (the entire circuit version of a GFCI)
forest edge
like england who apparently doesn't even trust putting the light switch in the same room as the light
ashen parrot
that's not true lol
he said limited and the context was bathrooms
to me that makes sense cos of splashes
low harness
You know the joke about having to turn over a USB plug three times before it fits every time?
I bought a usb charging station which turned out to have the ports upside down. And. It's. SO. WRONG!
forest edge
time to convert all devices to usb c
keen bridge
UK electrical laws include limited electrical fittings in bathrooms. So pull cor...
Yes. Switches or sockets can't be installed within I think 3m of a bath or shower. There's an exception for shaver sockets.
clear ferry
We have different zones in Norway
Splash, beam and flood I think
Been 22 years since I did electric training
@scenic radish when are you gonna use your nerd powers for good
I need this
keen bridge
Our bathrooms are generally not large enough, but we have a similar principle
clear ferry
I just ordered some towels through the rewards program at work
Got delivered today
Apparently it was 11kg of towels
umbral cliff
How many towels did you order holy crap
glacial knot
Why do you have towels in the reward program?
low harness
Did they deliver them wet?
umbral cliff
Why do you have towels in the reward program?
If it's anything like my employer probably has partnerships with general home department stores
clear ferry
We have a lot in the reward shop
Lots of apparel, Swarovski, electronics, kids toys, Nintendo Switch etc etc
midnight adder
Does anyone know if its possible to get hold of MR11 smart light bulbs? My bathroom lights are Halogen, and are costing a fortune.
Or would it be better to upgrade them to LED and install a motion senser in there to stop the kids from leaving the lights on
midnight adder
I did think that
OK, new plan is to upgrade to LED, remove the pull cord light switch and fit a motion sensor
clever mortar
Or make the pull cord smart
Fit any smart module between it and the light ( #hardware-archived can help there)
midnight adder
Fit any smart module between it and the light ( <#672223433907765288> can help t...
I was not aware you can make a pull cord smart. Thanks
clever mortar
You can make anything smart... well, not anything, but any form of switch
forest edge
lol pull cord light switch
clever mortar
Normal in older UK houses for bathroom lights
forest edge
were people getting electrocuted using normal switches? even those old 70's switches
clever mortar
We have proper power here, none of that 110/120V junk 😛
You should look up how safety codes come into being... it's often quite illuminating, or shocking even
forest edge
the history of insta white hair
the video I watched the other day the dude replaced all that with a kinetic switch
but then he put that switch outside the bathroom which I found odd
scenic radish
We have proper power here, none of that 110/120V junk 😛
to be fair, the US also has 240V at the panel, but yeah, our general-use circuits are 120V with select circuits as 240V
clear ferry
what the american public refers to as "that odd socket for the dryer"
clever mortar
Your 240V is ... weird though, and not always 240V
(Yes, I watch too much Technology Connections)
finite atlas
i've touched 230v so many times, i dont understand why americans went with 120V "for safety"
clear ferry
because someone killed an elephant for lulz
tidal bronze
Your 240V is ... weird though, and not always 240V
Your 240v outlets are weird and ginormous. 😄
clear ferry
UK outlets could kill a baby
tidal bronze
Takes up 40% of hotel room space
rapid plinth
Hey, split phase is a smart idea... though we kinda kneecap it by making it 120/240
clear ferry
Just do 400v distribution instead, more fun
rapid plinth
Legit we should. But pretty critical to fix our absolute dogshit receptacle standard first
rapid plinth
Oh they do, all the time
The socket wears out over time and can't hold on anymore, leading to exposed pins, weak connections and wall warts refusing to stay in place
clear ferry
I can't hold it anymore
Please
Meanwhile, the French variation of the shuko is so tight I have to stamp on the outlet to rip it out
tidal bronze
Never had this issue.
last cedar
Did they deliver them wet?
They delivered 14 Egypts by accident
tidal bronze
Maybe because I have more than 1 wall wart for the house.
@last cedar had to remove a stuck family of raccoons yesterday. Was thinking of you.
keen bridge
You evicted Michelle?!
tidal bronze
Sadly, yes
clear ferry
AND HER KIDS AND LOVER
forest edge
The socket wears out over time and can't hold on anymore, leading to exposed pin...
older ones did/do like the ones installed back when the light bulb was invented. modern outlets don't
tidal bronze
Most likely outlets before 1970
rapid plinth
This condo I'm in now was built in 69 and has limp outlets
clear ferry
tidal bronze
Bam!
rapid plinth
Was there some relevant change in the NEC in 1970?
I'm in the final stages of buying my own home, half the house has ancient outlets from the 50s including some NEMA/Hubbell combo outlets with the two T-shaped holes
forest edge
i think the old old outlets used much thinner metal to claps the prongs.
not sure if they still do it but ever since grounding outlets became a thing it was typical to install the outlet upside down. at least in bathrooms
clear ferry
You should invite me to one of your podcasts @keen bridge i can put on a thick Dutch accent and pretend to be a proficient developer
keen bridge
Actually at some point I should invite some of the Nabu Casa folks onto Automators
keen bridge
I thought you were doing German accents? 😛
keen bridge
Austrian, Swiss, Berlin, or southwest German?
clear ferry
Who needs imposter syndrome when you are an actual imposter
I hate swiss German
That said, I guess my German is accentless, since my English is the same
finite atlas
I dont mind accents, so i dont listen for them. All i mind is if i can understand him or not
orchid rose
some of the chinese stuff that I have came with the "US" plugs and those are indeed quite sus. So far I haven't killed myself so they seem to do their job
but exposed mains pins are yikes
orchid rose
How do people do that?
night zodiac
I was plugging in a pi behind a bunch of shit, thought I nailed it
one pin was hanging out, one was in 🙂
orchid rose
oof
night zodiac
was picking it all up trying to figure out why pi wasn't working
bzzzt
I was thankful it wasn't 240 🙂
first zap I've had in about 20 years
orchid rose
I do a lot of sketchy stuff with electronics but it's not that hard to turn off the stuff that can hurt you first before tinkering 👀
night zodiac
I was just plugging something in, lol
orchid rose
but with the exposed connections I'm sometimes a bit worried
yeah I can see how that can go wrong
night zodiac
I was thinking to myself, "only NA plugs can do this, lol"
I'm sure there are others
orchid rose
It would be really hard with the EU or UK style. I don't know what others there are
night zodiac
I have a bunch of 6 inch extensions coming out of a PDU so I can fit the bricks
normally the wall would prevent the prong or something but not with a cord end
my girl zapped herself within the last week doing christmas bs too, lol
exposed prongs when plugging in. 🙂
she had her finger somewhere it shouldn't have been
forest edge
some of the chinese stuff that I have came with the "US" plugs and those are ind...
chinese us plugs are sus lol
most i seen are two plain jane metal tabs usually way narrow than they should be
night zodiac
I was about to build a bunch of stuff to replace my girlfriend's AC powered christmas decorations but I gave it a quick google first and they make everything to replace it with so I just bought it
y'all were talking about loose sockets earlier. I have one room in my whole house with shitty outlets
thankfully I didn't make it my office
forest edge
everything? it's a plug in bulb lol
or you mean they make modren effect leds for lighting up the windows speratly etc
night zodiac
they make the nice chained DC connector I was going to do
and barrel plug bulb LED things
power a bunch at once
rather than all individdually
https://www.lemaxcollection.com/villages/general-products/adapters-lighting-systems/led-bulb-moonlander-74273 https://www.lemaxcollection.com/villages/general-products/adapters-lighting-systems/4-5v-3-output-adapter-white-fixed-us-plug-v-2-94563 https://www.lemaxcollection.com/villages/general-products/adapters-lighting-systems/four-led-light-string-moonlander-74276
forest edge
shocked your not going the addressable led route for fancy stuff lol
night zodiac
I was super tempted
light per room and such
but it's like filthy bullshit
I just want to be done
I fixed a few of her decorations and the warnings everywhere were not cool
"these wires expose you to lead"
forest edge
menards here sell a ton of those things
night zodiac
oh, okay
forest edge
don't see that much at other places these days
night zodiac
lead, got it
forest edge
not like I use to see them everywhere
lol fearing touching lead
don't ever go fishing
forest edge
same thing my salt lamp uses
night zodiac
it's just that it's not very normal these days
the lead exposure warning is on thatwire
the one you connect to mains, not internal or anything, lol
forest edge
just don't eat it
static schooner
What if you lick it to see if it's live?
forest edge
that plug looks like the type with the built in mini fuse too
forest edge
What if you lick it to see if it's live?
the prongs are safe to lick.. no lead poisoning just a little spice
night zodiac
It's all disconnected until tomorrow when parts arrive
forest edge
you gonna be one of "those people" who end up passing along assloads of trinkets to your children when you pass?
forest edge
at least try and sell some of it. in 30 years when the world goes in the dumps and the average iq settles around 10 people will give you something for it
night zodiac
Hue emailed me about their christmas bulbs, lol
🙂
I almost bought a bunch of individually adressable lights for the house but then I would have had to buy a ladder
and I don't want another ladder
or to buy one
last cedar
You evicted Michelle?!
Absolute travesty
night zodiac
I thought you were serious at first
oh no, Michelle needs a home
wait
trash panda joke. 🙂
last cedar
<@300242410338910209> had to remove a stuck family of raccoons yesterday. Was th...
I would have come and helped, why didn't you call?
night zodiac
lol, it isn't my house
I thought about borrowing family's ladder and hanging them up for all year
some cunt squirrel would probably chew through it
forest edge
certainly don't pay someone to hang them, was just in a nextdoor convo about that the prices these landscapers charge during the offseason and holy crap
price gouging central
night zodiac
my new servers arrive tomorrow. yay. (mini pc's)
I need to print some bases for them to stand 'em vertically
tidal bronze
I would have come and helped, why didn't you call?
Sometimes neighbors don't close their garages at night. They went in and didn't wanna come out. So had to call animal control. Didn't have your number handy 🤣
last cedar
I would have been on the first flight
static schooner
Look at all these great doormats out here!
forest edge
Sometimes neighbors don't close their garages at night. They went in and didn't ...
let me know when you leave yours open.. need to get some xmas gifts
tidal bronze
@forest edge don't lock doors so you don't have to wait for garage door 😀
forest edge
well send addy and gate code then
night zodiac
Is your display picture a chromecast audio? Lol
forest edge
yes, he loves those
tidal bronze
Yep
tidal bronze
well send addy and gate code then
No gate codes, sorry you will have to call get access 😉
night zodiac
I remember a few convos about chromecast audios over the years
forest edge
No gate codes, sorry you will have to call get access 😉
that's ok. i have an old farm truck that should push through it without issue lol
tidal bronze
I remember a few convos about chromecast audios over the years
Love them. Everything runs on CCA here.
tidal bronze
I read they might release them again
forest edge
I read they might release them again
with a shiny new price tag of $200 a pop
tidal bronze
That's fine as long as I can adjust delays
forest edge
just watched a video that I think was in dubai or something about adding a shelly to a under sink flash water heater but the thing had a digital display that had a clock
why on earth would something like that have a clock lol
orchid rose
So you can check the time d'uh
orchid rose
local > *
orchid rose
There are some advantages with these but the way Google keeps fucking with customers by cancelling and changing products....
night zodiac
I'm just over the latency, really
they never really go down but I want local access
for shenanigans
orchid rose
Which service was it that accidentally shared other peoples cams to their users?
night zodiac
I'm not sure
rapid plinth
why on earth would something like that have a clock lol
Built-in on/off timer maybe?
forest edge
Built-in on/off timer maybe?
maybe. but that is what he was using the shelly for
night zodiac
one of these works with HA and one of them probably doesn't
forest edge
he wasn't using ha
night zodiac
fake
forest edge
he was using a temp sensor addon with the shelly to turn the heater on and off dependent on water temp
night zodiac
ahhh
I assumed he started to heat it up once he entered bathroom or something
he made his flash water heater a normal water heater
forest edge
oh no, no idea what room it was, he was just maintaining temps between 40c and 60c
but if he was using the shelly to turn on and off the unit.. wtf was the clock on the unit for? lol
night zodiac
for brewing coffee in the morning automatically
odd orbit
Someone knows if there's a discord for opnsense?
brisk glen
Which service was it that accidentally shared other peoples cams to their users?
Ring or wyze?
orchid rose
I can't remember
last cedar
Someone knows if there's a discord for opnsense?
No, they make up for it by having 2 reddits though.....
What do you need help with, I am a network engineer
Proof of me being a network engineer
odd orbit
Trying to set up suricata for ibtrusionndetection. There's so mamy rulesets to apply that I have no idea what to choose. I just need something decent for home networking. Google isn't more helpful than "you choose what you need" but going one by one in the list and see what each does would take hours
odd orbit
Proof of me being a network engineer
I see, close to the source for fast and reliable service
last cedar
I played with suricata once, a very long time ago, I don't feel qualified to give you the response you need to help
@clear ferry are you able to help?
🦝
forest edge
Which service was it that accidentally shared other peoples cams to their users?
none? a couple of them got hacked but none accidently shared
9 out of 10 people would rather have another viral outbreak pandemic instead of losing the internet for 3 months
orchid rose
none? a couple of them got hacked but none accidently shared
I might be making it up, but I thought I remember one such horror story
forest edge
well people hacked into ring cameras and were spying on people then calling them and using like voice modulators to do a "Scream" type situation
Hello Cindy
orchid rose
I mean that's pretty bad too. But what I seem to recall was just completely random access to other people's cams instead of your own
Quick google search found this:
Eufy Camera Owners See Other People's Feeds
fallow karma
Football watching at work
dusky plank
I might be making it up, but I thought I remember one such horror story
you are right
clear ferry
it was actually 12 towels at 11kg total @umbral cliff
umbral cliff
It would be really hard with the EU or UK style. I don't know what others there ...
Most plugs have plastic sheath around to the point where the plug makes contact, so you can't half insert and get shocked. Australian included for that
Also do American sockets not have switches to turn off the individual outlet?
clear ferry
I've only seen that in UK plugs
umbral cliff
Seen what? The individual switches or the plastic sheath
clear ferry
the switches
umbral cliff
They're in Aus too
forest edge
Most plugs have plastic sheath around to the point where the plug makes contact,...
no. our gang boxes are too small to accommodate anything like that
but with that said, they do make a single gang single outlet/switch combo that does the same thing. but it's a single outlet only
glacial knot
we sometimes have them here, but they are really uncommmon
umbral cliff
no. our gang boxes are too small to accommodate anything like that
But the prongs are the same length here as the USA, it's doable
forest edge
anything is doable but there's no point
is this what you are referring to? https://portablepowerguides.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/british-plugs-have-switches.jpg
umbral cliff
You mean switches. The yes something like that
rapid plinth
but with that said, they do make a single gang single outlet/switch combo that d...
The switch may or may not be connected to the outlet. In the bathroom where I'm at now there's a combination switch and single outlet GFCI in a single gang box at roughly elbow level. The outlet is always hot (unless the GFCI trips, of course) and the switch controls the overhead light
umbral cliff
This sort of stuff is what we have. The middle switch can control lights, etc like what not root says
forest edge
You mean switches. The yes something like that
it shows the us plug on the right in that image. imagine where switches would go and how one might even be able to use it if two things were plugged in
course all of this is a mute point these days
i read an article that stated 55% and climbing new homes are built with smart outlets or the breakers powering those outlets and in that cause you still wouldn't use a physical switch
rapid plinth
This exact unit actually
the switch is completely indepent of the GFCI/receptacle and there's nothing physically preventing it from even being on a completely separate branch circuit
umbral cliff
it shows the us plug on the right in that image. imagine where switches would go...
There's a lot of wasted space around the edges there, not too hard to fit something
forest edge
right but they makes those where that switch controls the outlet instead of a seperate fixture
rapid plinth
There's a lot of wasted space around the edges there, not too hard to fit someth...
That plate is covering up where the edges of the box meet the drywall, there's no space under it
umbral cliff
Weird
forest edge
regardless noone would ever use the switches on the outlet
here since the 70's, it was common to hook one of the two outlets to a switch in the wall like a normal light switch
rapid plinth
you've seen what our GFCIs (aka integrated RCDs) look like, yeah?
forest edge
I personally like our smaller size outlets and switch boxes
the squares many other countries use are too bulky and look plain to me
sure the extra space in the box is nice I guess but meh
rapid plinth
I'd rather have UK sockets tbh
they have their problems, but sleeved pins, ample space for a fuse integrated into the plug, and made-for-right-angle are nice
I'd REALLY like some kind of magnetic plug but I'm not sure how you'd make it safe
forest edge
too bulky
umbral cliff
UK plugs are deadly if you step on them at night
Or without looking
They can go straight through your foot
Right angled has its downsides lol
forest edge
not to mention you can't just yank them out of the socket in a rush
scenic radish
https://github.com/esphome/feature-requests/issues/124#issuecomment-1323106296
ESPHome 🤢
rapid plinth
not to mention you can't just yank them out of the socket in a rush
I guess that's what the switches are for... you know what, that's a point in their favor
tidal bronze
not to mention you can't just yank them out of the socket in a rush
Do you usually yank in a rush🤔 must be the age.
pallid willow
well, here we go again
scenic radish
Oh, nothing. I just prefer Tasmota 😄
brisk glen
Why?
scenic radish
As much as I like YAML, the thought of manually building firmware for each device with a YAML file sounds like a PITA. Also, you can create "automations" in both ESPHome and Tasmota, but with ESPHome they're defined in firmware, so if you want to change them, you have to build a new firmware file. With Tasmota, you can change them at runtime
scenic radish
Yeah, but to be fair it can be OTA'd
brisk glen
I think I will like the Shelly firmware better lol
I can run JavaScript automations on device with the esp32 ones
scenic radish
You could try both Tasmota and ESPHome and see which one you like more
umbral cliff
Does tasmota have a 10 line and it's done implementation for IR blasters
Since esphome does for aircon at least
brisk glen
I’m looking at esphome and my shelly dimmer 2 and it looks like a pain
I’m about to buy 10 more dinners and several other gen 2 devices and possibly the 3m version for my power monitoring…. If I can shove one in there
umbral cliff
The base Shelly firmware works fine with ha tbh. And is an even easier one click add solution
brisk glen
USA and my 2 120v lines + neutral
brisk glen
The base Shelly firmware works fine with ha tbh. And is an even easier one click...
It’s working fantastic through HomeKit as well through HA
umbral cliff
I've got a Shelly directly to HA to be controlled locally there
harsh heath
my friend made a 19866 x 14031px logo. I just can't do anything with it xD No program accepts it
It weights 127 MB
petition to make HA logos in 30K resolution
finite atlas
Does tasmota have a 10 line and it's done implementation for IR blasters
i always just select in the web gui, at which gpio pin, which device is and call it a day
no need for typing anything
last cedar
my friend made a 19866 x 14031px logo. I just can't do anything with it xD No pr...
You can redo it, pixel for pixel in paint, by hand
ashen parrot
could a webcam be used as an ambient light sensor?
I mean most likely yes, but how?
forest edge
my friend made a 19866 x 14031px logo. I just can't do anything with it xD No pr...
photoshop should be able to handle that fine. I would think Gimp could too
clear ferry
it's a strange way to do light detection
as it will depend on the settings of the camera
and not be objective
ashen parrot
that wouldn't matter though
cos I'd just pick the desired value
and everything else would compare to that
like, I wouldn't use it as a meter
I just want my light to always be the same
I have a switchbot curtain so there's a lux sensor at the point where the sun shines into the room too
could use both of these sensors to figure out how much light enters the room and then compensate with artificial
clear ferry
glacial knot
https://i.redd.it/v58nvac1rl1a1.png
And you are free to worship me for that decision
Dealership gave me a Kia Sportage (GT-Line, Hybrid) as lender
Not a fan tbh.
clear ferry
Yeah, KIAs are generally shite
the EV6 is nice though
the rest is pretty mediocre at best
did you get your octavia yet @last cedar ?
🚙
ashen parrot
Im expecting more bad puns from you Michelle
glacial knot
the rest is pretty mediocre at best
I like the ProCeed I ordered
But it's certainly a price trade-off
The Sportage is just too heavy for what it has
clear ferry
I looked at the sportage, but it is so... cheap
same as the suzuki vitara
it looks like 2022
but feels like 1998
and drives like 1988
last cedar
I looked at the sportage, but it is so... cheap
I am wondering if I should try and grab a colleages optima phev, larger than the octavia and petrol
clear ferry
I love the fact that ikea lets you order spare parts online for free now
no more searching for the right number, going to the warehouse, waiting in line etc
dusky plank
just run docker in wsl
wsl is great, only wsl1 was shit
did you try docker on windows? works fine.
tries docker in wsl.... its still utter shite
umbral cliff
no more searching for the right number, going to the warehouse, waiting in line ...
Wish they actually had all the part numbers in the manuals though. Most of the pieces of wood don't get numbers lol
umbral cliff
> just run docker in wsl
> wsl is great, only wsl1 was shit
> did you try docker...
Wsl2 is great, just not for docker
dusky plank
you could have left that docker part away
its still shite
very bad linux experience for anyone IMO
clear ferry
You should have seen the guy in #general-archived earlier then @dusky plank
With docker desktop, and VMware workstation
That was interesting
frigid stream
Wsl2 is great, just not for docker
docker works well for me in WSL. I do heavy development work on it. Never tried to use it for actual orchestration though.
umbral cliff
its still shite
I like wsl2. Works fine to have a quick Linux command line when I need to check something
glacial knot
I orchestrate my docker containers in systemd
umbral cliff
I don't mind windows. Works fine for everything. New laptop going to dual boot windows/ popos just for diversity
dusky plank
every fecker with a shitty wsl installation:
yeah I know linux
pallid willow
here's a thought: use actual Linux instead of wsl?
I've never gotten WSL to work properly if not at all
umbral cliff
Cant use actual Linux on my work laptop
pallid willow
so you want to use Linux for work, but you don't and use WSL because it's a work laptop?
pallid willow
why not ask your workplace to install Linux?
I don't see why they'd block that if I'm being honest with you
clear ferry
Best regards someone who runs linux on his work laptop, doesn't run corporate tracking, doesn't run corporate software on his work paid mobile and enjoys life 😄
umbral cliff
Only sometimes want to use Linux for work. In very minor cases. Rest of the time having access to Microsoft office is essential
pallid willow
I'd say wine exists but it's kind of garbage for office
umbral cliff
Best regards someone who runs linux on his work laptop, doesn't run corporate tr...
Yeah and if I did that my laptop would come up as non compliant and my account would be suspended
Windows and macos are the only supported operating systems
And can live with that
clear ferry
My account comes up as non compliant, I just respond to an email every 30 days, they have stopped sending me after 4 years now though 😄
also office365 \ web based is all I need 99% of the time, when I need more I just do libreoffice
umbral cliff
Ours is all automated. There's no email. And once it gets locked you have to ring tech support to have it manually reactivated
umbral cliff
Their method to prevent people having laptops go non compliant
pallid willow
I mean I understand if you handle credit cards or something but like dang
umbral cliff
Its not an issue tbh. Work laptops can do what they want
clear ferry
I only work in a company that used to be 360k employees, not even we have that hard automation 😄
pallid willow
Isn't office mostly cloud-based now?
umbral cliff
I mean I understand if you handle credit cards or something but like dang
Consulting so dealing with possibly sensitive client data
clear ferry
Yeah _ I never_ do that
umbral cliff
I only work in a company that used to be 360k employees, not even we have that h...
360k is small. We're like 650k I think
dusky plank
Windows is best for sensible client data, everybody knows
umbral cliff
Isn't office mostly cloud-based now?
Yeah but the web interface is shit
clear ferry
it is not
umbral cliff
Windows is best for sensible client data, everybody knows
Sensitive was due to the compliance point not windows
pallid willow
In general, isn't office basically connecting to Microsoft now anyways?
clear ferry
I moved over to the o365 stuff before I left windows, it is much nicer to work with
pallid willow
Microsoft 365 is stupid
umbral cliff
it is not
Then why does it not have features that exist on the desktop programs. The web interface is such a downgrade
pallid willow
Office 2016 (or 2013) is where it's at
clear ferry
which features ?
pallid willow
And I hate the click-to-run stuff too
umbral cliff
Remind me when I'm awake. Just know a couple weeks ago was forced to use the web interface (client has o365 but restricted to web browser, and office 2016 I think for actual programs) and ended up downloading the file, opening it into the desktop app, and then reuploading
umbral cliff
Microsoft 365 is stupid
Its great for collaboration tbh. Works really well
pallid willow
the home version?
no
home version sucks
Business edition is just office 365 in different clothes
umbral cliff
home version sucks
What parts didn't work for you
pallid willow
It works, the only problem is that you have to use the PWA apps (click-to-run) which runs like garbage and doesn't work offline
dusky plank
look at this mess
umbral cliff
It works, the only problem is that you have to use the PWA apps (click-to-run) w...
Word isn't a PWA? Its a proper installed program
pallid willow
Not the home version
pallid willow
It's a web app that you install, yes
umbral cliff
No it's not??
Its a downloadable program. That's what you get if you have the 365 subscription. If you don't pay that then sure you have the free web interface
pallid willow
Microsoft calls some of their things click-to-run, on some windows PCs it's preinstalled and you can check if it says "<office app> Click-to-Run <year>"
I've had to set up numerous laptops and uninstall that, that's why I know it's garbage
umbral cliff
And that's not the office suite you have for home use though
Also fresh installs don't have click to run anymore
They have the full versions
pallid willow
surface laptops do (not sure about the non enterprise versions but the enterprise versions do)
umbral cliff
I just reinstalled a surface pro the other day, came with full versions of office...
pallid willow
I think we're switching to MacBooks next year anyway so it wouldn't be a big deal anymore
pallid willow
I just reinstalled a surface pro the other day, came with full versions of offic...
I'm talking fresh out of the box, no reinstalls, straight from the factory
umbral cliff
Also this is the word program you call a PWA?
umbral cliff
I'm talking fresh out of the box, no reinstalls, straight from the factory
Yeah and that's the image I installed with
pallid willow
"image"?
umbral cliff
There's a surface pro recovery image. Which comes with everything a surface is out of the box
pallid willow
Every time we reinstall windows it's some generic version of windows, not surface edition
pallid willow
There's a surface pro recovery image. Which comes with everything a surface is o...
We're not using surface pro's
We're using surface laptops
2 different platforms
umbral cliff
It exists for all surfaces for that image
pallid willow
Isn't the new surface ARM?
umbral cliff
Mine is not a new surface
pallid willow
Or still Intel?
umbral cliff
And they're either arm or Intel though
dusky plank
new ones come in arm and intel
i have both the surface pro and the laptop
both are shite
pallid willow
Laptops aren't that bad
clear ferry
Long live zbook
umbral cliff
I love my surface pro
umbral cliff
Also this is the word program you call a PWA?
Also @pallid willow you didn't answer. Is this the thing you call a PWA? Because this is the preinstalled version of word
pallid willow
HP anything really is garbage build quality
scenic radish
oof, atx won't like that
umbral cliff
HP elitebooks are alright
scenic radish
mr. HPE himself
dusky plank
I like how in 2022 the surface dock still struggles to boot with ANY surface connected. it just straight up dies and we see thath for > 300 devices.
good job MS
clear ferry
The wifes Spectre XT Pro was.. fine, albeit very hot, but her new AMD Spectre is amazing, no heat, no noise, super fast and overall a great purchase
umbral cliff
Have one that's 12 years old and still going strong
umbral cliff
I like how in 2022 the surface dock still struggles to boot with _ANY_ surface c...
That's why you don't buy a surface dock and use a USB C dock
clear ferry
Zbooks are the only really good products though
clear ferry
they were fine
dusky plank
That's why you don't buy a surface dock and use a USB C dock
I don't buy any of that shit lol.
umbral cliff
I don't buy any of that shit lol.
No USB C docks?
umbral cliff
8xxx series mostly
8440p my love