the-water-cooler

[low harness]

Like this. For a pure tone the peaks of pressure are evenly distributed and experienced by the listener at a stable frequency .

But the pressure waves from a natural soud looks nothing like that, but more like

That's much harder to put a frequency to.

[ashen parrot]

that second pic would register as multiple sounds actually

[low harness]

Exactly. There is no difference in experience listening to that soundwave from listening to a careful combination of pure tones played with the correct offset. Each having a frequency.

So you often can't put a frequency to a sound, but you can analyze it's frequency content and reproduce the same sound if you know that over time.

[ashen parrot]

there's a bit of a distinction there

you're hinting at overtones

but the very definition of a sound involves frequency though:

the discrepancy between the peaks and the troughs of the gaseous medium which transmits said sound

there needs to be repetition for that to occur

albeit at a very fast rate

found this in the meantime. a fairly accurate representation of how sound "looks" like in air.

but the top line should say "transverse waves" instead of "waves"

(although the graph doesn't account for doppler)

[low harness]

I still don't get your point. Even if the frequency relates to the current producing the sound - that's also a longitudinal wave of electron concentration in the conductor.

[ashen parrot]

well, I myself tend to agree that electricity is a coaxial circuit that has a longitudinal component to it but traditional electrical engineering considers electromagnetism as a transverse phenomenon

[scenic radish]

[clear ferry]

This is going in my spank bank

[low harness]

Electromagnetism, yes. Electricity, no.

[keen bridge]

Well, that's a... you know what, I'm just not going to think about this anymore 😂

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/excuse-me-maam-natalie-morales-michelle-dead-to-me-excuse-me-gif-17812423

Two kids put to bed, time to power up my new WiFi camera on the front porch

[low harness]

And if the conventional intrepretation takes precedence over yours for electromagnetism, why not for sound?

[ashen parrot]

wait, let's not go into that yet because it opens a whole different can of worms and is separate to the point I was making

which was a simle misnomer

[keen bridge]

Why were you making the point in the first place again?

[ashen parrot]

measuring a longitudinal wave using a unit for a transverse one

apples and oranges

it will still have frequency, ofc, but it will be a different unit of measurement, denoting a different physical phenomenon

to put it simply: sound is not radiation

[scenic radish]

I can't believe this conversation is still happening 🤣

[keen bridge]

I don't even know what started it

[scenic radish]

You both win

[ashen parrot]

yeah me neither, I just had a wild thought while taking a shit, and needed to tell someone about it

the thought, not the shit

[scenic radish]

[keen bridge]

That's nice. You can leave the bathroom now though

😛

[scenic radish]

Don't forget to use the spray

[keen bridge]

https://xkcd.com/386/

xkcd: Duty Calls

What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!

[ashen parrot]

well, I don't feel he was contradicting me

[ashen parrot]

it was a figure of speech, it didn't actually take place on the john

it was just that kind of thought, you know

[keen bridge]

I am enjoying the original series of Quantum Leap when whenever Al has a problem with the computer he hits it repeatedly. Percussive maintenance is an undersold method of resolving problems

[ashen parrot]

can't argue with the success rate

again, PRESSURE WAVES hahah

[clear ferry]

_laughs in my vibrating guitar strings _

While playing Pink Floyd - Time

https://tenor.com/view/pink-floyd-time-the-wall-song-lyrics-gif-9091011

[clear ferry]

I'm gonna move my rack over here, so I can put more stuff in it without being bothered about annoying my desk position

And I'll be putting my drum kit up where my rack is now

[last cedar]

OH MY GOD

Almost as bad as my garage

almost

[scenic radish]

Damn bro

[clear ferry]

Hey, I'm moving stuff around now to get rid of some fridges

All those boxes are going in drawers, they came from my old office

And all the stuff in the left of the top picture is going to the dump

[last cedar]

You are throwing away the window and the garage wall too?!

[clear ferry]

Yes

They are too old

Just like you Michelle

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/senior-screw-this-racoon-old-tired-gif-22984973

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/s045.gif

[clear ferry]

https://open.spotify.com/track/3LqmUE2egq9F4zzh4FoUrD?si=2-VVQ4g8RZuYN7Gk5Tj2Wg&utm_source=copy-link&context=spotify%3Aplaylist%3A37i9dQZF1E37dIJ3Jxh0xu

[forest edge]

@static schooner How you liking that LR4?

[static schooner]

No complaints so far. It's super quiet

The cats still use both

[umbral cliff]

My partner thinks the litter robot looks like a cat washing machine

Makes the comment everytime we go to one of the stores that sell it here lol

[static schooner]

It's a clever design.

It's easier to place the bag in the LR4

[forest edge]

you using their bags?

also have you checked and verified the night light on yours works?

[static schooner]

Not once they ran out. Some cheap 8 gallon bags now

[forest edge]

8 gallon? you found bags that will fit over the edges easily? or you stretching them?

[static schooner]

Yes, it works. It kept turning off for a while, but not now. Might have been a firmware update

They stretch to fit

They stay put better than the 3

[forest edge]

ah. yea i'm still looking for better trash bag that will fit better than stretching lol

LR3 if you use the bags that have the wing tabs they fit perfectly

[static schooner]

The same bags were either loose or took too much effort to stretch

That's what I was using, but they weren't very tight

[forest edge]

yea but I not had any issues. the LR3 tray with the slots on the end kept the bag in place for me

this one i'm using 10 gallon and have to be careful stretching or you rip the bag lol

[static schooner]

Haven't had a capacity issue, but they use both

[forest edge]

took ours apart to deep clean it. thing is seriously over engineered.

[forest edge]

too funny i just looked at ours

the night light on ours hasn't worked since we go it. submitted a ticket and they said there was an update coming out to fix the issue, updated it today and it still isn't working

may actually have to have them send us a replacement

[static schooner]

The drawer full sensor on my 3 has been broken for a few weeks now and always thinks it's full. Need to replace them for the second time

[forest edge]

oh the sensor where the waste drops through the drum?

[static schooner]

I've gone through all the troubleshooting

Flashing blue light

[forest edge]

use a small strip of packing tape. I believe it's the left side as you are looking at it from the front

[static schooner]

Yeah, the emitter/receiver

[forest edge]

the LR3 original design had a gap there that would allow moisture, urinie and litter to fall down onto the sensor itself

and it would break it

I had noticed that flaw when we had to change out ours as well. the tape fixed the issue

[static schooner]

Probably what happened. Some folks try to fix the PCB

[forest edge]

it's just the gap, that board on the left is exposed as the waste dumps

[static schooner]

It was a total pain to swap the sensors the first time

[forest edge]

i'll take a picture of mine the next time we clean it. just a small piece of packing tape prevents anything falling through that gap especially any moisture like urine

[static schooner]

I'll pay more attention when I fix it this time

I wonder if they changed the design

[forest edge]

yea the LR4 is diffrent

i looked at it when we took ours apart

I hate the LR4 design for cleaning lol

like i said, over engineered. if you haven't had yours apart yet you'll see what i mean

just like everything else in the world simple lasts longer and I think they made the LR4 to not last lol

[static schooner]

The replacement sensors are quite different. The old ones have a long circuit board and the new ones are mostly plastic with a small board in the middle

Will take pics when I get these out

Video I just found has the most Australian accent I've ever heard

[static schooner]

Old on left, new on right

[forest edge]

interesting

I still place packaging tape over the top of the plastic housing to ensure nothing can get between the base and that plastic thing

[static schooner]

Yep, I'll do that

My solution to the stupid pinch detectors

[static schooner]

Completed a cycle without a flashing blue light, so I'm declaring success.

[scenic radish]

What doing

[static schooner]

Fixing my fancy litter box

Because humanity has evolved to where that's a thing

[keen bridge]

LitterRobot?

[static schooner]

Yep. That's my 3

[keen bridge]

You know you now need to pay the cat tax right? That's the rules of the internet

[static schooner]

It's jealous of the 4 sitting next to it

[keen bridge]

Exceptionally pink toe beans, a look that says "you will pay for this later, human peasant", 10/10 void

[scenic radish]

Nah, he's just a sleepy boi

sleepy cozy boi

[keen bridge]

Lulling you into a false sense of security, got it

[scenic radish]

But yes, we love the pink toe beans

[keen bridge]

This is my former foster kitty.

[scenic radish]

SHRIMPY BOI

[keen bridge]

Yes, 50/50 shrimp, cat, and ruler of the universe

She was a cutie pie.

[scenic radish]

Got them noodle bones

[keen bridge]

Cats don't have real bones unless they don't want to go somewhere 😂

The whole trick of being able to get anywhere they can fit their head is both creepy and very cool

*Unless they are very chonky

[scenic radish]

For real though

[forest edge]

pretty sure I read or saw on some video where people just bypass those. They are for kittens

[static schooner]

The old ones are still there and are super rusted/corroded

[forest edge]

yea cat urine destroys everything lol

[static schooner]

I've seen people tape them together, but this seemed more future proof

[forest edge]

I think you can just connect the wires that connect to them together and take those sensors out entirely

not 100% sure how they did it

[static schooner]

That's what I did there

I created a jumper

[forest edge]

I think drawer sensor can be bypassed too where it always reads as empty

but that would suck to forget to check it lol

at least taking apart the LR3 is pretty easy

[static schooner]

It has 4 pins, so I'm sure it can

Or you could just tape them together 🙂

[forest edge]

the 4 has this plastic grey pan thing that covers everything below the barrel

even the motor that drives the barrel is under that huge thing and dosen't have it's own little slot out thing like the 3

[static schooner]

I need a 'pro' mode that disables all that crap

[forest edge]

i'm sure there's an arduino thing to replace the factory board lol

reminds me, LR4 has a usb slot under the cover. need to look what that thing is for

[static schooner]

Hmm. One of the firmware components is called 'ESP'

[forest edge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/litterrobot/comments/w85iqg/usb_port_under_bonnet_lr4/

not sure what accessory would use a usb port

zigbee stick lmao

[keen bridge]

Someone mentions a camera in the comments

Because you definitely want a video of your cat pooping sent to you

[forest edge]

the port has a small cutout for something short to be able to connected into it

I should have did a video while i had mine apart so everyone could hear me complain the whole time lol

[static schooner]

I watched a video review of it where the guy weirdly blocked out his face with a big blur box through the whole thing

[forest edge]

some people are camera shy

[static schooner]

It actually blocked the view of the LR at times. It was weird

https://tenor.com/view/happy-smile-big-teeth-beast-beauty-and-the-beast-gif-16614273

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/OEfvfIoIq7E

that edgar dworsky did another news thing earlier this year highlighting many companies who sneakily changed their products so the product would cost them less to produce but also make the customer pay more

[austere minnow]

Good morning. Is there a specific esp channel on this server?

[glacial knot]

The closest is #diy-archived

.esphome

hm, that's not the bot command?

[turbid stirrup]

@austere minnow https://discord.gg/d9em28M9

[clear ferry]

They killed the good bot and replaced it with some nonsense @glacial knot

[glacial knot]

you are the bot now?

[clear ferry]

Yes

And now I'm gonna break your NNN

https://tenor.com/view/racoon-wiggle-nuts-balls-gif-8085185

Real gif of @last cedar btw

Renovating her windows

And showing off her low power bills

[forest edge]

90 bucks for the injected mold legs for a 2x4 table. just the 4 plastic legs that you attach onto your own lumber they want $90

I thought it was hard to be a cheapass in the world before everything went up in price

[ashen parrot]

isn't there a way to diy?

[glacial knot]

grab some 15x15 wood beams and bolt them on.

[forest edge]

you can just use 2x4 for legs

which makes the product at 90 even more insane

[last cedar]

You know it

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/im-watching-you-i-got-my-eye-on-you-gif-20189294

[clear ferry]

I should move my rack today, that way I'll get started on cleaning up my garage

[last cedar]

Excellent idea

Have you warned the rest of Norway that their entire infastructure will be down for a while?

[ashen parrot]

Hey you guys see the AMD reveal of FSR3? To me, fluid motion sounds like it gonna involve interpolation somehow 😰

Hope I'm wrong

[orchid rose]

What else could it be? Either way I'm interested to see where these techs lead, but the direct fps comparisons are a bit yikes

Basically any tech can double or quadruple the fps this way. It's just dumb marketing from both Nvidia and AMD

[forest edge]

the new android messages icon is gross

[clear ferry]

It happened @last cedar

[dusky plank]

ong you cleaned that up fr fr no cap big yikes

have never seen the floor before

[prisma briar]

I thought I somehow installed Facebook Messenger when I first saw it

[clear ferry]

Yes, I'm cleaning the floor tomorrow @dusky plank and putting in some shelves \ storage on the wall there

and the 3d printer

then I can move other stuff around in the garage like tetris

https://tenor.com/upkt.gif

[dusky plank]

isn't it quite loud down there when atxwaifu waifubyea uses the vacuum cleaner?

[clear ferry]

But I'm the one who vacuums, so it doesn't matter 🤔

So, my todo is now

[ ] Get the new NVMe to PCIe adapter card with bifurucation and install it in the server
[ ] Fly across the country and pick up my 24 free 8TB drives
[ ] Drive to customer a few towns over and pickup that 24 bay drive shelf he has laying around
[ ] Migrate my production system to new DL380 Gen9 host with 24 bay drive shelf attached
[ ] Decomission old R510 server

https://tenor.com/bTeJV.gif

[dusky plank]

gen9 is... 2014?

that is between rpi1 and rpi2

[clear ferry]

2015

Gen8 is 2012

Gen10 is 2018

Gen11 is 2022

so chip shortage only increase generation gap by 1 year

😄

Currently it has dual 2620s, I might upgrade to 2660s or bigger, we'll see, it's an upgrade from dual X5660s anyway

[umbral cliff]

I like it. Also it's google, they can't keep consistent branding anyway

[forest edge]

being google is exactly why they should keep consistent branding tho

[forest edge]

kind of what my first reaction was too. wasn't sure if some crap installed itself on my phone lol

[finite atlas]

android message?

[umbral cliff]

Google messages app on android. They've revamped their messages, contacts, and phone to be consistent theming

https://9to5google.com/2022/10/28/new-google-phone-messages-icons/

[umbral cliff]

Its consistent with their phone and contacts app

[finite atlas]

never seen it, never used it

[umbral cliff]

Its the only way to get RCS on android

Only reason I'm using it

[forest edge]

weird my phone and contact icons haven't updated lol

[neat shell]

Basically just me lamenting about random progress I made this weekend 😂 https://pastebin.com/gYSYLKzH

[forest edge]

wait my contacts did but still not the phone

[umbral cliff]

Contacts have for me, not phone. Though I don't use the Google phone app as the Samsung one is a lot better for what I use
Google contacts are better though for choosing/ ensuring a specific account

[neat shell]

Wanting to start putting more HA based processes after getting all my IoT devices synced up in HA and zoneminder but I ran out of computing lololol

[forest edge]

hp product?

[neat shell]

That's an Intel NUC but it's like from 2014 I think

I think I got all but 4 of my bulbs, so like 9, 4 of the dozen mismatched IoT cameras, kitty poop box, their IoT feeder, and some plant light timers

Processing the video tho is crippling the fanless wonder lol

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/mGT3iWqDnoY

[forest edge]

not many of these actually make me laugh but I liked this one. https://youtube.com/shorts/L9HWczKidA4?feature=share

[finite atlas]

i feel sorry for you SonomaGTS

[late gate]

I found i have so much crap from diy never done projects. Now i will throw everythimg while moving. Waf decided. I kinda agree though. Good idea, order on mouser and never do it. Its probably 500 different sensors from audriono to uva and uvb lihgt sensors. Maybe somwthing for atx greenhouse 😉

[forest edge]

got something against kangaroos?

[static schooner]

From a Costco gas station with a fence surrounding a big hole in the ground

[forest edge]

well when the world is on fire and down is the only escape.. you jump

[static schooner]

The only thing I could think of is that those red pillars are temporary and that area is usually open. It's where the tanker truck pulls up to fill the tanks, which presumably are what they're fixing. I guess they're telling you that you can get out of the area with the lines and the pumps through there if needed, but it's pretty weird placement

[clear ferry]

Gotta love Musk's willingness to spend so much money to kill a platform

[prisma briar]

That moment when you solder something together perfectly then realize during testing you used the wrong ICs

Used 1k ohm digipots, needed 100k ohm ones.

[umbral cliff]

He doesn't even need to spend that much lol

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/WLfr7sU5W2E

the astronaut vs the influencer was funny

[last cedar]

Omg, you are so strong!

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-strong-boxing-showing-off-guns-gif-16048234

[ashen parrot]

yeah soz, what I meant was that the DLSS one doesn't interlace existing frames, it abstracts from two adjacent frames creating a new one and interjecting it in between

[glacial knot]

sooo, it interpolates it

[ashen parrot]

no, it EXTRApolates it

interpolation is when you intercede lines from two adjacent frames

line 1, 3, 5, etc from the first frame combined with line 2,4,6 etc from the second frame

resulting in a blurry mess

the dlss3 one basically recreates the whole frame based on vectors

[glacial knot]

that's interlaced, not interpolated

[ashen parrot]

hmm that's right

sorry about that

but my point still holds though

[glacial knot]

no? You describe interpolation. Take frame 1 and 2, generate a probable intermediate and show it between them

It'd be interesting tech if it took frames 1 and 2 and generated a frame 2.5, predicting where things move
Which is going to fail in interesting ways. Which we know since that's what some of video compression does

[ashen parrot]

very well, once again: I was wrong about the term per se but my logic still holds, the fact that DLSS3 doesn't use interlacing frames and that IF amd would use that it would really suck (for me at least)

[glacial knot]

you insist that you were shouting at nothing? ok

[ashen parrot]

cmon man I wasn't shouting

sorry if it felt like that

[glacial knot]

nah, no caps no angryness

[ashen parrot]

well I did wanna use italics but forgot the shortcut in the moment

[glacial knot]

*italic*

without the code block of course

[ashen parrot]

hehe see

now I know it's _

[clever mortar]

https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/210298617-Markdown-Text-101-Chat-Formatting-Bold-Italic-Underline-

[ashen parrot]

that's similar to what dlss does, and yes with some fails some of the time

The optical flow field captures the direction and speed at which pixels are moving from frame 1 to frame 2. The Optical Flow Accelerator is able to capture pixel-level information such as particles, reflections, shadows, and lighting, which are not included in game engine motion vector calculations.

[glacial knot]

That's what I figures from not really paying attention. Because interpolation would force a delay
It's still interpolation in a whole stream sense, but extrapolation in how it operates

[ashen parrot]

yes that is a more accurate description than what I initially provided.

still, it's crazy! just 1/8 information from what is on screen is actual information from the scene, 7/8 is AI generated. That's the only way they managed to have such low latencies, otherwise it would've been mathematically impossible

[dusky plank]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twi92KYddW4
mood

[forest edge]

https://c.tenor.com/NAhyzypQW_cAAAAC/wiiu-destruction.gif

[dusky plank]

a wild HurensohnPrinter appeared in my Wifi list (again), i will just leave it at that

[clear ferry]

[rapid plinth]

Crack it open and take out the antenna

[clear ferry]

Btw, to continue on our discussion of great strange movies

This is quite good

https://youtu.be/p1W_mpSydYI

[dusky plank]

thats going to be a problem with a wifi only printer

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/thomas-the-tank-engine-thomas-and-friends-gif-24655752

[hot roost]

Anyone make any sense of this.. I've bought 5m of 5v WS2812E LEDs that need 90w. This means it requires an 18A PSU. Surely 18A would melt the wires and connectors on the LED strip...?

I'm planning on using the DigiQuad to control it, which only comes with a 5A fuse :/

[clear ferry]

18A of 230 yes, 18A of 5v, no

That 5a fuse is for the 230v side

I'm certain

[hot roost]

The 5A fuse on the QuinLED can't be? It only takes 5-24v input

[clear ferry]

Then 5a per channel i would guess?

I run a simple d1 mini and level shifter with a 70a psu for my 800 or so leds

Haven't looked at the quinled design

[dusky plank]

@hollow glacier is your guy

[hollow glacier]

What do

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-bat-signal-chill-reading-relax-gif-17336607

[hollow glacier]

The dig quad comes with 5 5amp fuses and they can all be replaced with 10amp. It will do 30a continuous 50a burst

On the board and in the docs it shows which power terminals go to which fuses

[hollow glacier]

You will need to power inject at both sides of strip

[clear ferry]

I do every 3m or so

[hollow glacier]

And not use the jst-sm connectors that come with strip cuz they’re rated for 3 amp. Also don’t use the barrel connector that comes with a lot of psus. They are only rated for 3amp as well

[hollow glacier]

5m strip so each end covers that

[clear ferry]

Yaas

[hollow glacier]

All the fuses are for the led strip side btw

[clear ferry]

Aight, 5 seemed low

[hollow glacier]

His boards are pretty cool for non electronics guys

5 of them

[clear ferry]

5 channels?

[hollow glacier]

And can be swapped to 10

5 separate fused power yea

[clear ferry]

Ah yes

Then it makes sense

[hollow glacier]

Boards have over 2oz of copper

He’s posted tests confirming they won’t get firey

[clear ferry]

What is this, measurements in bald eagle

[hollow glacier]

Roughly 14 bald eagle 🦅 pubes

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/makeamericagreatagain-maga-icanthearyou-trump-freedom-gif-7709803

[hot roost]

God this is confusing lol

I've had lots of people reporting that 5m wont need power at both ends

Also finding that a lot of these 5v 20a 90w PSU's can't be imported to the EU because they dont have an CE marks. Nice and comforting for fire safety 🙃

[finite atlas]

you really wouldn't want such a led strip

hella inefficient

[hot roost]

I just need 5m of leds for my kitchen to replace my Hue LED Strip lol

[finite atlas]

use a 24v strip

[hot roost]

that'll need injection every meter or so though right?

[hollow glacier]

Rgbw like sk6812 are 5v only

[hot roost]

which is a no go as there's not enough room for me to run wires

[hot roost]

same issue with PSU though

[hollow glacier]

?

[hot roost]

5v 90w 18A

nightmare to even get hold of in the UK

[clear ferry]

You have a five meter kitchen bench?

Also AliExpress

[hot roost]

Yeah not touching those 😄

Had 2, both of them failed, one started melting

[clear ferry]

AliExpress 4 lyfe, both my outdoor 70a PSUs are from AliExpress

[hot roost]

lol, i'm definitely not risking it lol

[hollow glacier]

dude

[hot roost]

Anyway just scraping this.

5 meter strip, RGBWW, controlled with WLED. Whats the suggestion on strip and PSU

[hollow glacier]

the strips on ali express and on amazon are literally identical

[hot roost]

not the strips, im on about the PSUs

[hollow glacier]

BTF lighting is a big manufacturer there

buy directly from them to save at least half instead of amazon

psus get a meanwell or burn the house down

[hot roost]

Yeah I have some BTF ones, strips are fine, just not buying PSU's from Ali as had bad bad experience

[hollow glacier]

psus same shit

[hot roost]

yeah, meanwell is all i touch

[hollow glacier]

it is all from chyna

[clear ferry]

Shaina

[hollow glacier]

https://giphy.com/gifs/WWE-wwe-8TFiB90uaGSMdDy9pG

[hot roost]

but they dont sell the 5v 20a 100w one in the UK due to no CE marking 🙃

[hollow glacier]

sucks

[clear ferry]

The shizzle my nizzle

[hot roost]

So 5 meter strip, RGBWW, controlled with WLED. Whats the suggestion on strip and PSU. Any suggestions where i wont need to inject power

addressable is a bonus, but not needed

[dusky plank]

lel, I remember putting 1500w into 8 leds

[hollow glacier]

oh it's needed

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/397426163649216512/914682412099850280/video0.mov

that's my disco kitchen

[hot roost]

injection is definitely needed?

[hollow glacier]

rgbw individually addressable is needed

[hot roost]

oh RGBWW yes, addressable im not overly fussed about

but how can i achieve without needing injection

[hollow glacier]

you cant stop being silly

i ran wires behind my leds

you can use aluminum channels with diffusers and put wires behind them

[hot roost]

Yeah i barely have enough room

[hollow glacier]

find a way

[hot roost]

I've got handleless kitchen so there is literally no room lol

[hollow glacier]

do another project first like a bathroom or something

learn from your mistakes and watch a couple youtube vids then yolo

[clear ferry]

YOLO

[hot roost]

ehhhh

How does Hue etc work without injection

[dusky plank]

this is done nicely

[hollow glacier]

without injection you will have two noticeable issues: 1. your colors on the end that isnt powered will have a orange/red color regardless of actual color/color temp and 2. when brightness is above like 30% it will be very noticeable and the colors will be fucky on other end

[hot roost]

I'd have to run all the cables alongside the lights, but its not wide enough for led strip and wires

[hollow glacier]

are you expecting to put the led strips directly on the bottom side of your rich boi kitchen?

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/kim-kardashian-money-cash-make-it-rain-make-that-money-gif-18595921

[hollow glacier]

use aluminum channels with diffusers dude

[hot roost]

i want them where the Hue strip is in that photo

[hollow glacier]

and hide the leds and wires in them

i know...

[hot roost]

Thats the issue, I can't because that channel is the damn handle 😦

[hollow glacier]

what

open mspaint and draw me a picture

[hot roost]

lol ok

[hollow glacier]

if you're on a mac open a windows vm to use mspaint

it's important

[clear ferry]

Just draw it in Excel

[hollow glacier]

i expected better

i dont understand

[hot roost]

so theres like a channel which lets you reach behind the door to open it

[hollow glacier]

atx break it down for me

[clear ferry]

I don't understand either doctor

It is Greek to me

[hot roost]

but if i put a channel on the underside of the unit, they stick too far down and you start catching your hand on it

[clear ferry]

Let's call @opaque girder

[hollow glacier]

so at the top of each of the fuckboi doors there is a notch cut out to grab onto?

[glacial knot]

The front is on the right on that picture

[hot roost]

yeah, side profile

[hollow glacier]

how much clearance are we talking

[clear ferry]

Pix

[hollow glacier]

right

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/send-pics-flirty-gif-9895017

[hollow glacier]

in a perfect world you'd have a router etch out a groove to put the led strips in

[glacial knot]

needs to buy some DIY ledstrips...

[hollow glacier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552293123766878210/839682852865441842/image0.jpg

[hot roost]

How's that

[hollow glacier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552293123766878210/839682853720686622/image1.jpg

i made that to put a led strip in (inside aluminum channel)

[hot roost]

Yeah I did that for my desk

But ktichen top isn't wood

[hollow glacier]

there is plenty of room for aluminum channel in pic above

[clear ferry]

You Americans and your wooden tops, here we only use granite

[hollow glacier]

they're like 1/2 an inch thick

[hollow glacier]

that is a soundbar holder slut

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/running-crying-tears-gif-4318319

[hot roost]

Aren't they quite deep?

[hollow glacier]

holds back your mom joke

they can be

[clear ferry]

[hot roost]

I've got these but no way enough room to run wires too

[hollow glacier]

https://amzn.to/3T8LKDG

affiliate link cuz i like money

[glacial knot]

9/32" D: burger measurements are great

[hot roost]

Right OK. So channel sorted etc. Back to the actual lights and power. Whats the suggestion...?

[hollow glacier]

LIGHTS rgbw sk6812 warm white channel

psu whatever meanwell you want

ideally buy bigger than you need so it's not over 80% usage

wiring use a calculator and buy the right shit

[hot roost]

So ideally go for 12v LEDs so lower amp PSU too?

[hollow glacier]

https://quinled.info/2018/10/20/wire-thickness-needed/

if you find 12v sk6812 strips go for it. hint: they dont exist

[hot roost]

Oh lol

[hollow glacier]

sk6812 are nice cuz they have a dedicated white channel that comes in 3 flavors warm/natural/cool

you can buy some other options that are not rgbw tho

quindor has videos and links for all this shit

[hot roost]

Yeah ideally i'd want RGBWW so the 6812's seem pretty good, just end up back at the PSU problem with 5v

[hollow glacier]

https://quinled.info/addressable-digital-leds/

https://quinled.info/analog-led-dimming

r34d

https://quinled.info/2019/06/03/what-digital-5v-12v-rgbw-led-strip-to-buy/

[hot roost]

ok so i already bought the ones he's suggested.

For 5m strips you are going to want to feed the beginning and end of the strip with power

so only need start and end, so that should be relatively simple

now to find a suitable PSU again..

[hollow glacier]

https://geni.us/1Gh98l

maybe those would work

links wont work for me cuz of adblocker and tracking lol

[hot roost]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B088FJBKS2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

These are the ones i have on the way for now

[hollow glacier]

eww

no one suggests eco ever

"hmm yes sir can i please have less copper in my strips thx"

[hot roost]

HSP-200-5 looks like it'll work if i can get it

[hot roost]

Realistic downside though?@

[hollow glacier]

@dusky plank why have you forsaken me

[dusky plank]

sharing is caring ❤️

[clear ferry]

Caring is not sparing

[low harness]

Lightning course in Swedish

Nänänä is not to be confused with nänänä - which means ”of course not”.

[dusky plank]

you were right all along, connected a rpi1 via usb to it. servers airprint and cups, does everything I need.

if that ssid comes up even with all wireless disabled I'll yank the wifi out of this mf

[hot roost]

i give up with this PSU stuff. Literally no where will sell me a 5v 20a mean well PSU

[last cedar]

Nu har du skitit i det blå skåpet

[clear ferry]

Klart som korvatten

[frail jewel]

start day
479 PRs
review 10 PRs, 3 merged
end day
479 PRs
mfw

is it my idea or is GitHub extra slow today? Getting a lot of unicorns instead of rendered pages.

[ashen parrot]

does the pope shit in the woods? PROOF ^^

[low harness]

Det är ingen fara på taket.

[prisma briar]

I set my doorbell to call my phone instead of ringing the actual bell. My dogs are starting to freak out whenever I get a call now.

Going to change the ringtone for that number.

[clear ferry]

Why not just get a notification ?

[ashen parrot]

I am currently hacking away at this free IP Webcam app to do just that, only with video feed and 2 way audio too

slapped an old samsung j3 on my peephole, with doods face recog

(yes I used selotape lmao)

your doorbell probably does all that out of the box I'm guessing

[prisma briar]

I hooked a dumb doorbell to a zigbee module that fires an event in HA when it's pressed.

I have a webcam taped to my window right now

The camera I bought to put in didn't work out

[ashen parrot]

tee-hee u my kinda guy

[prisma briar]

It's double-side taped and up in the corner, it doesn't look the worst

But it's still kinda tacky

[ashen parrot]

ooh, you livin dangerously

what if the glue wears down and it falls

[prisma briar]

I'll put it back up?

It weighs like 2oz

[ashen parrot]

oh, dunno why I still had a phone in mind, lol

[ashen parrot]

yeah I used the same principle, only I had to use the phone's mic to trigger that event in HA. like when it goes above a dB threshold

[prisma briar]

I bought a camera that supposedly supported playing audio back, their guide wasn't terribly complex, mostly just the wav format it wanted, but I can't get it to work outside of their app.

[ashen parrot]

unpack the app

[prisma briar]

It annoyed me that they actually had a documented api but it was wrong

[ashen parrot]

and get the endpoints

[prisma briar]

I was thinking of just sniffing the network to it

[ashen parrot]

access them via command line switch

[prisma briar]

I don't think it's encrypted at all

I kinda just want to get a more appropriate camera though.

Or a separate device for audio

[ashen parrot]

if you can view the source, the endpoints will be listed

Im a noob and am doing this right now 😄

[prisma briar]

It'd be right there in a network capture too

I think it's the wav format being wrong though

[ashen parrot]

could be

man, this app is golden, it lets you access all the phone sensors in real time

[silent dove]

@ashen parrot I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[ashen parrot]

dunno why the HA companion app doesn't

[prisma briar]

Probably power draw concerns

[ashen parrot]

yeah that tracks

[dusky plank]

TIL docker-compose traverses parent folders until it finds a compose file

[orchid rose]

Is recommending TP Link mesh wifi something I should be ashamed of? Are there better options for noobs?

[static schooner]

docker-compose does (which is kinda nice), but my experience is that docker compose does not

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/bCBaE.gif

[static schooner]

it's one of the weird differences

[clear ferry]

I use a X60 set, in bridge, works great, covers all of my house + yard + driveway

[orchid rose]

Atx approved then... I'm worried now

[clear ferry]

It was only €200 on discount

for 3

[orchid rose]

Where did you get it? My bro is looking at the S7 right now which seems okay for the price

[clear ferry]

I got it at power

[orchid rose]

200 for that 👀

[clear ferry]

I run primary SSID for my regular devices, only present 5Ghz radio, and I use the guest network non isolated for IoT devices and 2.4GHz

wirelessly I get 650Mbps out of them, which is more than enough

At least according to speedtest

I get close to gigabit for internal traffic

[orchid rose]

I don't think he needs anything like that but it would be way more futureproof

[clear ferry]

latest fw was from 2021, but I don't care, they don't do any routing or firewalling

support WPA3 too

[orchid rose]

These all work as access points, right? I got really confused with the model numbers since M4 costs about the same as the S7 with worse specs

[clear ferry]

they either run in routing mode or bridge mode, but they still do meshing in bridge mode

which was one of my criterias

I currently have 2 wired and one not wired

[orchid rose]

I think for his needs he needs routing and probably just two devices, maybe three. I just don't quite understand the naming scheme they have

[clear ferry]

So, M is wifi5 afaik

and X is wifi6

[orchid rose]

and what is S?

[clear ferry]

unsure about S

[orchid rose]

that's the one I don't get

https://www.tp-link.com/se/compare/?typeId=5700&productIds=57705%2C47258

[clear ferry]

So, looks to be wifi5 too

S has 3 antennas

M has 2

So, both S and M are previous gen stuff

[orchid rose]

Yeah, but the S7 is supposed to be a new one. I can't even find any reviews of it

And it looks better than the M4 for around the same price

So maybe the S-series is a new budget choice with the X being the performance one? Just weird

[clear ferry]

🤷

Looks to be wifi5

so makes no sense for it to be newer

[hot roost]

Finally, found a LRS-200-5‎ on digikey that'd ship to the uk

[forest edge]

I was looking at the deco's the other day and ran across someone asking the differences on the amazon page. tp link like many others have different naming schemes on rather it's eu or us and I think the s7 and m4 was one of those

[orchid rose]

I absolutely hate that. It's so pointless

[forest edge]

well the bands are diffrent or something, or one has one band the other dosen't or something like that

for the diffrence in wifi standard

[orchid rose]

I guess it makes sense in that case

[forest edge]

@craggy onyx you could try asking in #diy-archived . there are tons of tas-heads in this server.

[craggy onyx]

ok thanks

i will remove the question here

[forest edge]

oddly the deco series always makes it in the top 10 list for mesh networking for just about every review i ever seen. not sure if that has to do with quality or just lack of options lol

right now i am more intrigued about the motorola q11 for my moms place. but the price of that set has gone up like over 100 since the inflation bs which I do not like

[orchid rose]

At least you're spending in dollars. The rest of us are even more screwed

[dusky plank]

belkin rt3200 + openwrt + batman is the shizzle

else go with a wired backbone anyday

[orchid rose]

I'm a bit unsure how his wiring is but hopefully it'll all be wired

[dusky plank]

then mesh is not needed, just go with 802.11r

[orchid rose]

Hmm, so what sort of devices would I be looking at then?

[dusky plank]

anything that runs openwrt

[orchid rose]

I'd be fine running OpenWRT myself (I do), but I don't know if it's easy enough to recommend to someone

[dusky plank]

if you want wifi6 go with the belkin or linksys counterpart

[forest edge]

downside to that route is after x amount of connected devices things can get kind of wonky

[dusky plank]

all I know is that the openwrt route is cheaper. always.

it's kind of wonky if you live in a polluted area but any solution gets wonky there

[forest edge]

no it gets wonky cause the hardware generally can't keep up over time

[orchid rose]

His requirements are very consumer level so I just get a feeling that there would be a decent out-of-the-box option available already. Two floors which - I think - can be connected with ethernet and both are small enough for a single hotspot to cover

[dusky plank]

admittedly I only have ~30 devices connected over 3 aps but openwrt works fine for me;
that is with 3 different brands of aps

[forest edge]

always go with the eero 6 lol

[dusky plank]

restarted them 2 months ago, still going strong

[forest edge]

joking, i mean it works.. but joking

[orchid rose]

Eero is a boomer Finnish name so no 😛

[forest edge]

they are cheap tho

the price is the only reason it stays on my list for my moms.. just hate the whole fact that I run zigbee at her place and cannot use the eero zigbee aspect with HA

[orchid rose]

Yeah my quick google turned up those as one option

[forest edge]

price to features the deco is likely what you will recommend imo. although if you can find that motorola q11 for cheaper that system looks neat for the "noobish"

baked in adguard type stuff without any associate cost is neat

[clear ferry]

Eero

Saatana

[orchid rose]

I don't know if we get the Motorola stuff in Europe?

[forest edge]

no idea

[static schooner]

:truthbomb:

[clear ferry]

Old server rack corner has new life

Sorting of those boxes for trash is for another day, after I'm done reorganizing the rest of the garage

[forest edge]

just admit all you are doing is shifting the same mess around

[static schooner]

It's like a big tile puzzle

Where you try to assemble a picture of a pile of trash

[forest edge]

pretty sure if we were to take every picture he posted for the last few years of his garage and made it into a flip book you could see the shit just move around like a game of musical chairs

[clear ferry]

Hey, i at least aren't a hoarder

I throw stuff out

I already have a pile for the dump

[forest edge]

who the hell throws out an air compressor

[finite atlas]

why not sell it on the local used online market?

so you wont have to bother carrying it all somewhere else, people will just come and pick it up and maybe even leave some money

[clear ferry]

I already tried that with a bunch of stuff, people just aren't interested

Some of the stuff in that pile I'll try to sell though

But most of it is going to the dump

And then i have the fridge and freezer you see in the corner of the picture, those are going up for sale, plus a set of tires used only one season

Then a boatload of stuff behind me going to the dump too

I'm gonna try to fit the Nissan Leaf in the garage this winter

[late gate]

Im wondering ig im going to buy one router abd ditch unifi. Seriosly how much setup do i need? I havf s cat to each room for pc and laptop anf other than that a non meshed system seems most stable…

[clear ferry]

Small minicomputer + opnsense life

Also, my deco system hasn't had a single fault yet, neither did my linksys for 3 years

mesh is perfect

[forest edge]

why do you think a non mesh system seems more stable?

in my experience. clumping routers together in bridge mode as a "poor man's mesh" is unstable to a degree but a designed mesh system seems to be perfectly stable. in fact I have had instances where a device would for some reason or not get dropped by one node but instantly picked up by another without a hiccup but under the poor man's mesh that device would have either not reconnected or had a hiccup

one thing I don't get is the new 6E stuff. 6ghz is shorter range than 5 so how the hell does that work as a node backhaul channel

[late gate]

I feel they are so limited. Like the new google is great, but cannot even set channel pr split 5,6 and 2,4 ghz. The new house id just 75sqm so my options is putting a unifi wifi 6 lr at top level, should give 100% singal. Everywhere, second option is a too tier asus or netgear and keep it central. Unifi would though have a lot of more options. Thirs is mesg, but then i need metter mesh, backhaul over cable, channel choice and i can set my own settings on each ssid

[forest edge]

First off the Google Wifi/Nest Wifi was never designed to be anything more than a plug and play for people who don't care about tinkering with the wifi settings. the eero is closely behind that same mentality

a wired backhaul true mesh system will work just as you would want it to. just gotta pick a company that will give you access to settings you want, like that TP Link Deco discussion above or Linksys etc

heck with wifi7 around the corner with supposedly speeds of 40Gbs. the whole "wired" thing will become a thing in the past and it seems like they are trying hard to do just that with even expanding the ranges of existing current wifi like wifi5

i'll still prefer wire though

[late gate]

Woukd not something like this outperform eero? https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Orbi-Quad-Band-System-RBKE963/dp/B09D8THD92/ref=mp_s_a_1_9_sspa?adgrpid=81505936996&gclid=CjwKCAiA9qKbBhAzEiwAS4yeDedi5PviqT_UUFKFEpDz28pDrt5jdt2bNI8U_aJSzM9VzhqzevlqTBoCq4cQAvD_BwE&hvadid=585362632710&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=1010917&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=626958335435197034&hvtargid=kwd-961770819000&hydadcr=22080_13333382&keywords=eero+pro+6&qid=1667862651&sr=8-9-spons&psc=1

[forest edge]

many thing will outperform the eero. eero is amazon's version of the google/nest wifi but with more control

i think the orbi's are over priced imo

[finite atlas]

i just got some great used wifi routers for 30-40€ each, installed openwrt on them and made them run 802.11r fast roaming
works like a charm and i dont need to spent a months or years saving on wifi routers

[forest edge]

yea but again, as i stated above about that subject. that route limits you on client connections before wonkyness

[finite atlas]

i never had any issues so far

[forest edge]

you may not have many clients

[finite atlas]

only when trying out wpa3, that apparently dosnt work with 802.11r

i have 20-30 clients, thats it

majority of them is hard wired anyway

[forest edge]

then your right there with @dusky plank just below the threshold lol

some of the new mesh systems out this year claim to handle around 200

[finite atlas]

just get more cheap wifi routers and lower the signal gain

[forest edge]

lol

[finite atlas]

so they'll be able to handle more clients combined, easy

[forest edge]

thats my kind of duct tape thinking right there

[finite atlas]

21 clients as of now
12 of them are hard wired
9 are wireless

[forest edge]

i got like 19 wireless devices and my setup would have hiccups from time to time that just got annoying. when i switched to an actual mesh system all that went away

[late gate]

So i will just leave the google here while moving

I remember when we rooted it it was some possible but nda cane flying

[dusky plank]

I just happen to like Openwrt, no idea if such things are possible with any other system

[finite atlas]

MacBook.lan kicken? OK

[forest edge]

@dusky plank you referring to the ui or opensource router firmware that provides mesh abilities?

[finite atlas]

i find mesh disgusting

[forest edge]

I think the mesh openwrt only supports like 6 routers at this time if I remember right

[finite atlas]

there is no limit

[dusky plank]

I‘m referring to api functionality and open source

[forest edge]

infact the router you install it on has to support mesh for it to even work

[finite atlas]

no it dosnt lol

[forest edge]

you sure about that?

[finite atlas]

very

[forest edge]

https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/network/wifi/mesh/80211s

according to that it does

[finite atlas]

https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/network/wifi/mesh/batman

there are many mesh implementations

[forest edge]

so that's an adversion to typical in home mesh networking

[finite atlas]

i'll much rather just wire up all my routers instead of meshing them

[keen bridge]

I personally preferred wired backhaul mesh

[forest edge]

well most mesh systems support wired backhaul so I don't see a diffrence there

[finite atlas]

802.11r is what people often actually want instead of mesh
near seamless transition between various wifi stations

[forest edge]

802.11s is mesh

found this

https://hal.inria.fr/hal-01373064/document#:~:text=The B.A.T.M.A.N.,higher percentage of datagram loss.

I don't really see a gain aside from the ability to support more hardware through using ad hoc

don't misunderstand me.. cheap is awesome and I support it the whole way so I am not trying to imply openwrt is inferior in any of the ways that count

just saying, for someone who dosen't want to mess with all of that, it's easier and still better in many ways to just go with a prepackaged system

[finite atlas]

all it took, was to watch a 20 min youtube video and copy the steps to all router flashed with openwrt, which took roughly 5 minutes per router

and i'm not the smartest person

[forest edge]

but my system took 10 seconds and most of that was just prying it out of the box

[finite atlas]

how much did it cost?

[forest edge]

it wasn't 139 like the eero 6 plus lol

[finite atlas]

and how long did you took to set everything up in the web ui ?

[forest edge]

i told you i support cheap lol

[forest edge]

actually i didn't have to do anything

[finite atlas]

neat

[forest edge]

I obviously went in, changed the pw etc

but as far as setting anything up or having to lock anything down, i didn't have to do any of that

right now i have 3 nodes. 2 are wired backhaul and the third on the deck uses 5ghz as the backhaul

[dusky plank]

What is the level of customization on these systems though?
Can you say e.g. you want your Iot SSID only on 2.4g while the guest network only use 5 and can you toggle it on/off with a api?

[forest edge]

so when compared to something like openwrt, ddwrt.. these systems will never have that much control. yes I can do what you listed there but as for as an api to like access from HA etc, is limited

but in my setup, my mesh sits behind an opnsense router

now that motorola q11 i talked about before

I think that sucker can do all that fancy stuff from what I read

[finite atlas]

Something completely else. It looks like its a full moon tonight and my solar panels are able to produce 1-2W of power at 1 am, neat.

[forest edge]

sun is a powerful lightbulb

[finite atlas]

even when reflected off a giant flying stone in the sky

[dusky plank]

Nothing on mine 😞

[finite atlas]

how much kW of solar panels do you have?

[dusky plank]

45

[finite atlas]

dang

[dusky plank]

I'm just waiting that it pays off itself and expand from there on again,
I only use ~100w myself 😄

[finite atlas]

mine will pay off after just 7 years or so

[dusky plank]

already have the next shipment of panels ready to install, inverters are whats missing though

[finite atlas]

and till then, we'll save a lot of money each month that would have been spent otherwise

why are you missing inverters?

[dusky plank]

kind of hard to get rn

[finite atlas]

not really

[keen bridge]

Things like that have quite a variance in regional availability

[finite atlas]

mstone and i live in the same country

[keen bridge]

Even within a country though 🙂

[dusky plank]

guess inverters for home use are easier to get a hold of

heavy duty ones... not so much

[keen bridge]

My parents are in France, they go to one region and they can get things, another region they can't. They live right on the edge of two regions there 🙂

[finite atlas]

what kind of inverter are you looking for?

[dusky plank]

no idea, I trust my electrician

pretty sure I get killed when I touch this stuff myself

[finite atlas]

if you are looking for more heavy duty stuff: https://deye.com/product/sun70-75-80-90-100-110k-g03-70-110kw-three-phase-6-mppt/

[dusky plank]

yeah, you will wait 6 months I'd expect

[finite atlas]

i waited 51 days from paying to recieving it, because i choosed the slow 35 day train route instead of air shipping

[dusky plank]

what is your hourly rate? 😉

[finite atlas]

?

[dusky plank]

come over, replace my guy

[finite atlas]

i can get the job done easily, no problem
but i lack the certificates to do it legally

ask your guy how long he takes, if you'd already have the inverter and certificates for the inverter

[dusky plank]

not sure if they like it that way, he advised me to go full solaredge and thats what I do

[finite atlas]

not terrible, but hughley overpriced compared to whats on the market aswell imo

[static schooner]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistics_(film)

[finite atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/nacho-libre-why-but-gif-23595404

Uppsala City
Uppsala :D

[static schooner]

Hard to find a theater that can afford to screen something for a month over the holidays 🙂

[finite atlas]

@last cedar i do hear raccoons fighting outside my window!

[forest edge]

looks like the boys in Boston created a whole new covid strain that's more potent even against the fully vaccinated

[forest edge]

we just had a discussion about lithium fires...

https://youtu.be/4uRfdyDl9Q4

I think if I was an apartment owner I would ban e-bikes from being able to be stored within the building

[umbral cliff]

Then at least provide secure bike storage

[forest edge]

that's not a guarantee and in fact I would bet if apartment owners did ban ebikes etc and provided an external storage, that storage would cost a fee

[umbral cliff]

Which is stupid. Given apartments already come with storage just usually in the carpark and is free
If they want it out of the building they can provide the free storage for it

Or at least the hoops that you can chain bikes to

[forest edge]

they might do hoops but who is going to use an exposed to an elements bar for ebikes?

and it's not stupid. lithium fires are nothing like normal fires and pose a real risk to others in the building

[umbral cliff]

Which is why if you can't store it in the carpark then they should provide a free cage

[umbral cliff]

No it's stupid if it isn't free

Have it registered for the owner sure, so then they know exactly who's bikes are who's

[forest edge]

expecting greed to fork out for a special building for something like that isn't gonna happen. you should know that

[glacial knot]

Parking is an extra entry in my rent
It's not free

[umbral cliff]

That's stupid. Here apartments have free bike racks (even if they're in the carparks) and usually have at least 1 carpark space included free too

I've never seen paid bicycle parking

[glacial knot]

And my car battery isn't much smallee than most bikes

[forest edge]

not many apartments here have enclosed carparks. they do provide garages for a cost tho

[glacial knot]

Our bike parking is minimal
And overflowing. So it's nice to have the spot for the car where I can also park mY bike

[umbral cliff]

Here it's underground parking, usually 1 or more included with an apartment not an extra cost

And can rent more spaces off others sometimes

[forest edge]

now you just made picture your ebike being stuck down in one for a year. good going

[umbral cliff]

What?

You talking about the car stacker? The only one I know of in Australia lol

Where bikes had a separate cage area too lmao

[forest edge]

yea, it's always what I picture when you say carpark lol

[umbral cliff]

But why. Is an underground carpark so rare to you that you can only think of that l9l

*lol

[umbral cliff]

That's stupid if it's that small

[glacial knot]

You forget that he only left his farm oncec in his life

[forest edge]

we don't have too many underground parking. we have some that are under buildings but nothing that just goes into the ground

[umbral cliff]

Most here are into the ground. Under an apartment block usually

And usually carparks are above things like shopping centres not the other way around

[forest edge]

yea we have the above ground stuff, but not for apartments

most apartments with the exception of inner city ones will have flat ground parking infront of the building etc

[glacial knot]

/shrug old ish building in rural areas here tend to have cars in mind and bike stuff just tacked on

We have some spots on ground, some small garages above and the larger park under the building complex

[umbral cliff]

This is what could be in a large apartment complex. Couple floors of this (photo from Google)

[forest edge]

not sure if our inner city apartment will have external storage options such as a garage. maybe something like a locker.. i really don't know

[umbral cliff]

But bike parking is as simple as just a metal hoop. Can have a few bikes on that and are cheap to install too

Also does that mean you don't even have a storage locker in a carpark either?

[forest edge]

and i'm sure they would offer free hoops in that space for you to chain your ebike

[umbral cliff]

Yeah but then it's inside. Same risk as being inside an apartment then

Your point was to put them outside

[forest edge]

not same at all

[glacial knot]

Tends to be a small extra room here for permanent storage
Because the carpark is somewhat accessible to everyone

[forest edge]

that underground parking ios all concerete with noone sitting on a couch above or below that ebike

[glacial knot]

We have a separate cellar block
But I have no idea which ones mine

[umbral cliff]

The risk is still high. You can't easily get a fire truck in, building still gets evacuated and still has a risk

But sure concrete is lesser some what

[umbral cliff]

Never gone to check?

[forest edge]

risk is minimal to life in comparison

[glacial knot]

Risk is higher, since there's less infrastructure (and people) to detect any malfunction
And it's closer to tons of flammable fuel

[forest edge]

fire dosen't spread on concrete

[glacial knot]

If you clean it daily

[umbral cliff]

You'll be surprised how well it spreads in an enclosed area like that

[umbral cliff]

Think they're lucky to have a once every 5 year clean lol

[forest edge]

you saying you a bunch of oily people?

[umbral cliff]

Dust and oily cars

[glacial knot]

No. Why would you think so?

[forest edge]

lol dust isn't flammable

[glacial knot]

Everything tires carry in and lose of their own

Yeah, just an explosion hazzard

[forest edge]

you guys are fishing for an excuse to not pay extra for an ebike. it's not working lol

[umbral cliff]

Free cage. Done

They're not that expensive

Otherwise proper fire suppression system

Also done

[forest edge]

well no

[umbral cliff]

And protects everything with the latter

[forest edge]

lithium fires trump all "proper" fire systems lol

[umbral cliff]

Also means having proper fire warning system, so the building gets evacuated and fire department automatically called

[forest edge]

was just on the news all those firemen bitching about the sheer amount of water to temp put out teslas in that hurricane and then stated some of them even reignited hours later lol

[forest edge]

whats about people's pets who are work?

don't you have a cat with a tie? imagine him not being able to escape

[umbral cliff]

I don't have any pets

[forest edge]

who was it with the cat that wore a tie in here

[umbral cliff]

But also evacuation system means it shouldn't have the whole building up in flames if it's just in the carpark downstairs

[glacial knot]

You haven't said anything of substance so far 😂

[forest edge]

your steering off topic, or mixing things

[umbral cliff]

No you replied to me on evacuation systems

[forest edge]

underground parking lots with a bike hoop i already said some would probably make free

the risk at point here, is keeping that ebike within your apartment

[forest edge]

what substance are you looking for? don't you think it would suck to lose all your shit and possibly any pet or loved one because the dude across the hall kept his ebike in his apartment?

if lithium fires were able to be extinguished by preexisting fire extinguishers as effectively it wouldn't be an issue. but they are not

[glacial knot]

Same as with with different gases used for cooking either from infra or bottles stored
No need to be a bitch about it. It's the exact reason why we have fire codes that determine which risk is within reason

And fire codes allow more in apartments than storage or parking. For a good reason

[forest edge]

I don't think the fire is the same

[glacial knot]

No, lithium fires spread slower and are hard to stop
Gas goes boom and has a higher chance to remove a floor or two

[forest edge]

the spread isn't from the battery. it's from the materials around it

thats why underground concrete parkings lots would be ok imo

[last cedar]

Pics or it didn't happen 🤣

[finite atlas]

it sounded like coming from the neighboor hood property and everything is pretty obstructed from my window

[plain trail]

anyone know what is port for router page? my WAN IP address showing my router page. I checked 80 or 8080 or 443 ports are closed

my router is Huawei AX3

[umbral cliff]

It should be port 80 for your router page. Does going to your wan address open your router page?

Like from not being on the network

[plain trail]

https://i.imgur.com/yJnz6PL.png

[plain trail]

yes. I opened my wan ip addres on browser and bitdefener warning then i open page to risk. So result my wan ip address is router page on the public

[dusky plank]

try from external to your ip

[umbral cliff]

Are you sure it's actually accessible from outside the network. As that screenshot seems to imply it's not forwarded

[dusky plank]

internal can still be nat loopback presenting you the page

[umbral cliff]

Because some routers may take requests for the wan IP from a local device as no different than doing 192.168.0.1

What mstone said

He's smart

[plain trail]

https://i.imgur.com/4aljITF.png

i tested on my phone with 5g and no router page on my wan ip addres

strange

[umbral cliff]

Yeah that's got nothing to do with port forwarding. You're not forwarding anything

[plain trail]

cool, thanks so much

[umbral cliff]

Instead the router interprets requests for your wan IP internally as 192.168.0.1

[plain trail]

i understand, looks like mask ip address

[umbral cliff]

Basically if you can't access it off the network then it's not public

[plain trail]

gotcha

[clear ferry]

Also... Don't forward 8123 to ha... That means you probably are running http locally....

Also, what are you hosting on 9324

[dusky plank]

ZUMA

[last cedar]

Wait, home assistant shouldn't be accessable by everyone external? Is that why my lights keep turning on and off all the time?

[keen bridge]

Darn it, Michelle cottoned on

Everyone switch to opening the locks!

[clear ferry]

I should expose a wenhook so you guys can batsignal me

make my buttp... light flicker

[last cedar]

Is it a hush?

[umbral cliff]

What's a wenhook 😛

[clear ferry]

typing with one hand.....

the baby refuses to be put down

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/woman-drilling-snow-lets-drill-bikini-gif-21684152

[umbral cliff]

Just do it anyway

Baby isn't going to remember

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/TyK7.gif

[plain trail]

it is hasio with duck dns

[plain trail]

it is my dog name :))

[dusky plank]

alright I use port 9324 to give pets?

[clear ferry]

It is pretty uncommon to run https over 8123, but whatever floats you boat 😄

lets everyone know what you are running on that port without even querying it

[plain trail]

yep 🙂

[dusky plank]

ffs you are everywhere @keen bridge

you also never told that you live in the very same country ? ARE YOU NOT PROUD? 🇦🇹

[last cedar]

Someone is in trouble now lol

[dusky plank]

nah, I'm not proud everything stinks here

[scenic radish]

🤢

[last cedar]

@clear ferry called VW today.. || not started construction of my octavia yet, rip ||

[keen bridge]

Haha. I moved from Austria back to the UK at the start of the pandemic. *

• moved by accident, but I'm happy I did in the end.

[static schooner]

oops?

suddenly woke up in a different country, decided you'd stay?

[scenic radish]

hate when that happens

[prisma briar]

Probably got stuck during a lockdown

[static schooner]

I guess that could be a thing. It certainly caused me to avoid my travel to India when it was a possibility

[dusky plank]

what?
im not turning the tv off so that a server im running on it can keep running

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/bxMX1.gif

[last cedar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/trashpandas/comments/ypbrq6/do_not_feed_the_wildlife_especially_the_trash/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=13&utm_content=share_button

The sign is lying, do feed the trash pandas

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-salivating-drooling-drool-saliva-gif-22893007

[orchid rose]

lmao at the "especially" part

[forest edge]

NOT FEED SHOOT

[last cedar]

So unnecesary

As if a trash panda would ever take free food

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/X7JSzAJ3vYs

[tame cove]

.hi ! maybe someone here knows here i can find a very simple android SBC with WIFI (i want to install HA APP on it)

[clear ferry]

You mean a tablet

[tame cove]

or indeed a Tablet , i have a touchscreen here

a tablet is also totally ok

[clear ferry]

A very usable tablet is $60ish from aliexpress

probably cheaper for lower specced ones

[tame cove]

thank you !

[clear ferry]

I have bought 2x Chuwi tablets

great value

ridicilously fast

[tame cove]

chuwi tables, checking 🙂

[clear ferry]

They might have increased in price since I bought then years ago

was 60 and 80 USD

chipshortage etc

Cheapest I see now is 80USD, then just up from there

[tame cove]

yes

a bit offtopic again , but i discovered that we can't rotate the screen position on a Google TV (chromecast2k)

do you happen to know a good alternative for a Chromecast2k) with teh option to rotate the screen

[orchid rose]

They sound like a cat^2

[dusky plank]

lets see what happens

hahahaaha

[clear ferry]

😦

[dusky plank]

pw is Homeassistant1!

aight I'll add it to sudoers

there you go

its centos folks

yumand dnf

[dusky plank]

http://140.238.209.95:8123/

discord:discord

now worky

multiple users connecting with different ips is apparently no go 😄

[static schooner]

I'm sure nothing could go wrong with me trying to navigate an HA instance in German

[dusky plank]

yeah, what could possibly go wrong, I hover my finger over the terminate button 😄

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/war-gif-25012648

I don't know how that integration made it into HACS

[last cedar]

Mount the screen sideways

[tame cove]

@last cedar yes i can't change the output of the Chromecast2k sadly

with a android phone or system you can easily change the screen position (landscape / portrait etc)

with google TV it's not possible

[last cedar]

You can turn the screen 90*

https://tenor.com/view/head-tilt-malamute-cute-dog-confused-gif-7666433

[tame cove]

yes but not in the software 😄

[clear ferry]

Actually, you can sometimes

I still have PTSD from when I accidentally found the Nvidia hotkey to rotate 90°

And didn't know what it was

[tame cove]

yes i noticed that it's possible with a cheap android TV box just not with Google TV 11 (at least , i couldn't change it wiht a app etc)

[clear ferry]

Some of the 300,000 Volkswagens that were recalled after the company was busted cheating US emissions tests - https://i.redd.it/7k564l8n0ry91.jpg

[keen bridge]

Tetris!

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/tetris-simpsons-moving-gif-4824859

[finite atlas]

again?

[late gate]

I really dont understand why people say nvidia shield is so good? Bugged plex for years, YouTube can’t handle profile switching without crash and 1/3 part of the screen in forced commercial! If appletv could support vpn i would never use shield

[forest edge]

is it the tube version?

I heard that one sucks

[late gate]

No the pro version. I have no idea why its so bad

The plex issue is that plex just doesn’t care from fixing it. Concidering emby

[forest edge]

weren't you having plex issues with something else?

[late gate]

No its the same issues. When you finish a show its still there, so have to manually reload library. On ios is upfatefin a ms

[hollow glacier]

nothing wrong with the new non-pro tube version man it just has less ram and no usb ports to charge controllers

i have 4 shield tvs and plex working flawlessly lol

[forest edge]

Maybe it was the original tube? one of them got a ton of reviews saying it was trash.

[last cedar]

Mine is perfectly fine!

[forest edge]

*ractube running strong is it? the other version didn't sound right lol

[clear ferry]

You could easily make a toggle VPN with opnsense, that said, the VPN fad for streaming was over a decade ago

[glacial knot]

says the guy paying for usenet

[forest edge]

how else is he suppose to watch anything other than trains and boats just traversing the local lands?

[clear ferry]

Hey, Usenet is great

[thick crag]

It's outlived virtual libraries. sees himself out

[forest edge]

@umbral cliff https://youtu.be/sQcX4KG5zzY?t=60

[umbral cliff]

?

[forest edge]

just sharing proof that you need us

[dusky plank]

anybody have recommendations on good OCR tools?

[glacial knot]

Whatever iPhones use D:

[dusky plank]

where is such functionality?

i can scan documents but text is still image

oh wait, text is another layer on top

noice

[clear ferry]

I still remember the first OCR reader I saw, with serial port that you dragged over books

And it was shite

Probably back in 96

[glacial knot]

Camera app allows you to select text on any photo. And I think they rolled that into the photos app with a later version

on the Android side that's google lens. Which works surprisingly well for me

[dusky plank]

oh shite, the resulting pdf is still garbled text, I need to scan full A4 Pages and have them in Office

[glacial knot]

Office D:

[dusky plank]

yeah I know 💩

[clear ferry]

Office has their own ocr app

But Google lens has never failed me either

[glacial knot]

I mostly use it on short japanese text though
Since it's the easiest way to look up unknown kanji

[dusky plank]

my dad 👴 refuses to learn how to handle documents on computers
writes contract for 4 hours in word, prints it out and does not save the file.
yolodad

[clear ferry]

そのとりですか

[dusky plank]

yea exactly, you too!

[clear ferry]

Mittwoche mein Freund!

[dusky plank]

*Kerl(e)

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/llamas-with-hats-carl-gif-11198275

[last cedar]

Dark series