The type of network I was talking about didn't use cables
#the-water-cooler
last cedar
There is a big company using microwave links in Yorkshire, England, where they only have shit adsl
You would love that
clear ferry
Reminds me @ashen parrot I need to finish my midi2mqtt gateway, so I can control my house with my keyboard
low harness
Wasn't there a Darkwing Duck villain who did that or something?
ashen parrot
Hey I think I found something along those lines once, but didn't get around to testing it
clear ferry
https://www.instructables.com/Send-and-Receive-MIDI-with-Arduino/ + Mqtt library should be all I need
Then I can play midi sounds based on events too
clear ferry
@last cedar yikes diesel was 28.50 sek in Sweden yesterday, it was 20.30 nok when i got back to Norway
Just realized Bob Dylan sounds like a very nasal man having sex with a motorbike
forest edge
not sure what part of that sentence to crack a joke at first
tacit plinth
not sure what part of that sentence to crack a joke at first
i'm sure you'll rev up to it
ashen parrot
Then I can play midi sounds based on events too
why would anyone ever play midi sounds as a choice :))
nah man hardware is supremely overrated
dont need an arduino https://github.com/TheOriginalAndrobot/midi2mqtt
ashen parrot
Then I can play midi sounds based on events too
it now dawns on me there are actually a lot to chose from https://github.com/search?q=midi+mqtt
ashen parrot
my ha is broken atm, in more ways than one, am waiting on a new pc. Then I can focus on adding midi to my setup
you know once midi is set up in ha, you can have an audio software translate room audio into midi
action different lights or whatever
via just humming a note out loud
can do it without midi, have clapping lights like in 80s movies (hass agent for windows has a microphone peak sensor)
the possibilities are endless. Back in the day I made a midi theremin using just an android phone hahah
strap one to each your wrists an move arms around. then the gyroscope translates to midi
like the gif above but without the keyboard π
forest edge
welp time for my daily morning vitamins in the form of yelling at kids to get off my lawn..
clear ferry
I always wanted to buy a theramin
Gotta learn to play slide guitar first
One of these days
I'm gonna cut you into little pieces
umbral cliff
welp time for my daily morning vitamins in the form of yelling at kids to get of...
You sound like a boomer
glacial knot
when the only joy of your day is yelling at Zoomers π
glacial knot
clear ferry
Das V
last cedar
<@300242410338910209> yikes diesel was 28.50 sek in Sweden yesterday, it was 20....
We are properly getting robbed
clear ferry
tidal bronze
welp time for my daily morning vitamins in the form of yelling at kids to get of...
What lawn? You talk about sand and dust in California. What's that?
forest edge
What lawn? You talk about sand and dust in California. What's that?
that is known as "Fall". something we already know you obviously have no idea about lol
tidal bronze
Sorry, I don't know anything other than beautiful weather and green all year.
forest edge
Sorry, I don't know anything other than beautiful weather and green all year.
which is why who ever snaps the shot of your face when you first see global warming change your area will be worth millions
tidal bronze
With all that rain and humidity talk, I thought it would look like this, guess not. π
forest edge
not transitioning into winter
unlike some, we don't have to fake snow lol
we're not outside wearing speedo's waiting for santa to visit
tidal bronze
The thing is, snow is optional. Drive 45 minutes if you want, or else enjoy the sun. It's called having options. Not stuck with a snow shovel for months. π€£
forest edge
you know you are going to eat your words right?
as you get dryer, the more colder you will eventually become lol
tidal bronze
Eat or not, a front lawn like that is not acceptable. Tried putting up a green house in the front yard?
forest edge
not acceptable? what do you even know about grass? that it's generally green? astroturf is not grass lol
oh look your local government even submitted a report on what you yuppies should prepare to expect down the road https://lao.ca.gov/Publications/Report/4575
actually shocked it's not just a page with a single gif showing burning lands and people running away on fire
tidal bronze
You should buy less sour grapes and lean on pluots
forest edge
i don't even know wtf that is
another California mutated fruit?
yup rotf, after a quick google search that is exactly what it is
don't worry, once silicone valley fully moves to texas i am sure you will be pressured to leave that state before you turn into the sand people from star wars
forest edge
ran by an rpi https://youtu.be/AcQifPHcMLE
finite atlas
yeah see, its a fun little game and not a serious training program anymore, so it can be run on a rpi
clear ferry
keen bridge
Sometimes it's worse than that. After days of searching and debugging, you trace back to a forum post:
Person: I am having exact same issue.
... 6 months later
Person: Solved it.
clever mortar
Bonus points when you realise that Person was you...
keen bridge
Alternative bonus points: post 2 never happened
forest edge
Strong Google Fu helps
static schooner
so much that
forest edge
I can't remember if it was from a video or article/blog but the person made the statement of, "after searching and going down so many rabbit holes with dead ends you ultimately end up learning enough about the issue you are having to piece together a solution"
prisma briar
Me too!
clear ferry
15 years ago
prisma briar
Oh, I just searched for something once.
static schooner
Buy Tuya products, they're awesome! - young Tinkerer
dusky plank
tuya is all over the place, what happened
prisma briar
I've only had one Tuya-related product, some smart outlets with a terrible interface. They couldn't be connected to HA or used by anything but their garbage app. Thankfully I was able to convert them to esphome.
forest edge
bt tuya stuff wouldn't be bad. it's just the networking stuff is complete crap
keen bridge
Eh, they're just giving away software to be loaded onto any device
It's going to be potluck, same as their zigbee stuff
scenic radish
i love how tuya decided to be a total PITA with their zigbee stuff too
ashen parrot
is there any smart commercial solution for not burning stuff in your oven?
like idk a smart oven that shuts off when it browns or smokes
keen bridge
A timer? π
keen bridge
This is one reason why I use my air fryer, it turns off when the time is done
A fair few ovens have built-in timers with similar functionality
ashen parrot
yeah me t0o but you can't time everything perfectly all the time
scenic radish
yeah me t0o but you can't time everything perfectly all the time
not with that attitude
ashen parrot
:))
keen bridge
A bit of trial and error, and knowing how your oven works solves about 98% of that
ashen parrot
People always assume this
clear ferry
I suggest getting two kids that swarm around the oven whenever it is hot
that helps keeping tabs on it
ashen parrot
I actually do most everything almost perfectly by default
scenic radish
ashen parrot
sometimes without any trial
scenic radish
|| alright i'm done messing with you for now ||
keen bridge
I suggest getting two kids that swarm around the oven whenever it is hot
This seems like an expensive long term investment
scenic radish
and loud
keen bridge
Is one 50% of the price?
ashen parrot
:)) not trying to be a douche just sayin, Im not asking for a solution on account of an inadequacy, but because I had this thought that using AI for that would be like the first thing to take care of
keen bridge
And do they break your automations?
keen bridge
You can get smart food thermometers such as the Meater
scenic radish
|| moist ||
keen bridge
Connect that to a smart switch/plug for your oven perhaps?
clear ferry
This seems like an expensive long term investment
nah, they are great fun most of the time, and I can have a band eventually
since noone else wants to play with me
ashen parrot
are there smart ovens with cameras inside
keen bridge
Probably, but is it selling your data? π
ashen parrot
hahah
that would actually be USEFUL
was thinking this the other day, the whole backlash against privacy would be FAR less forward if the ones using sold data actually provided us with good prediction
ofc I'd be mad, but I would have what I actually need be handed to me all the time. Not saying it would actually be good for me but it would make me more docile :))
keen bridge
Well, also if they actually told us what data they were collecting and selling it might help
ashen parrot
yeah, that to boot
clear ferry
You will love my current issue ongoing on github @scenic radish
Last comment here is right up your alley I guess
static schooner
try a slow, sultry blink
scenic radish
You will love my current issue ongoing on github <@562095811186524190>
holy hex stream batman
clear ferry
scenic radish
also "OH HOLY SHIT BANANAS" made me lol
clear ferry
static schooner
You want data? I got your data right here...
clear ferry
low harness
What kind of monster doesn't even put that in code tags?
clear ferry
Tyst marschallΓ€lskare
ashen parrot
embrace the jank https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8dhSig0-7Y
it's so that my movie transfers to my kitchen panel when Im peelin potatoes :))
when I open the door
it blocks the proximity sensor of the phone
even though HA companion app can't use that sensor live π¦
had to go through another app
clear ferry
I was playing around with the Monkey Island theme on my synth with an accordion sound
and I just ended up thinking of this song
I love it
pallid willow
sigh
pallid willow
yuck, is that tuya ? π€’
yeah
clear ferry
bin it
pallid willow
thinking about just flashing my three smart plugs with tasmota lol
thats all i use with tuya
clear ferry
while she bottle fed an orangutang named Tripod, how Tripod got his name is not appropriate for children I always laugh at this part
pallid willow
the rest of my stuff is nest or ZHA
clear ferry
If you can, that is the best option
Dog damnit all these people sending me unsolicited job offers
harsh heath
Finally migrating to a SSD π€©
ashen parrot
gen5?
ashen parrot
lmao
pallid willow
good news: tore up the case of one of my gosund plugs and turns out they are esp8285 chips which are compatible with tasmota!
clear ferry
woooo
I think I have to move my rack when I get my new disk shelf, I expect it to be a bit louder than the old one
good thing I have a 10m lead cable on the PDUs
finite atlas
Dog damnit all these people sending me unsolicited job offers
With every increasing amounts of money, how dare they
clear ferry
If only
Not a single recruiter so far can match my terms
Yet, sending them to my manager still yields monetary outcomes
ashen parrot
ban all work!^^ jk
clear ferry
I love having my hobby as a job
ashen parrot
you guys see how they do with stable diffusion these days
pretty soon folks will run the assets from doom through that
we;ll get actual remasters not remakes like the fad has been lately
finite atlas
Not a single recruiter so far can match my terms
send your current terms back to the offers and tell them, they'd need to be a good degree above it or f off
finite atlas
i love tasmotas web flasher
pallid willow
I actually did 2, but they are gosund WP3 plugs
Flashing my 3rd right now actually
in fact, they all work (the 2 that I flashed anyway) with tasmota 12
crap I just bricked my smart plug
scenic radish
Have you had them for a while or did you recently buy them?
pallid willow
Have you had them for a while or did you recently buy them?
couple months
no longer than 9 or so
scenic radish
Oh okay. Still fairly surprising
pallid willow
crap I just bricked my smart plug
my fault btw, accidentally switched my surge protector off during flash
scenic radish
Try tuya-convert again
pallid willow
yeah, trying now
scenic radish
But just power on the plug, no need to try for fast blink
pallid willow
okay, unplugged it and plugged it back in now I'm getting pink/red flash
here's to hoping it connects
pallid willow
wow I have not used the Alexa app in a while and wow is this hot garbage
the Google home app is better and that's saying something - that app also sucks
prisma briar
mfw I can't find wiz bulbs anywhere in stock then randomly find the biggest selection I've seen at a Kroger.
I finally got that bulb with the dead red channel replaced
pallid willow
space heaters suck
literally in the next room my brother has a 1500w heater perfectly fine but I can't use a 200w heater with nothing else plugged in
finite atlas
sounds like badly managed fuses or a dead heater
forest edge
not to mention heaters don't draw their rated wattage
umbral cliff
Kettle lol
static schooner
I can definitely cook water. Other things, less so
dusky plank
clear ferry
send your current terms back to the offers and tell them, they'd need to be a go...
This is exactly what I do
clear ferry
Pretty sure Accenture can't meet my terms
Their consultancy business is very much a revolving door too
dusky plank
you know them already?
clear ferry
Yes
dusky plank
I just see a lot of management layers
clear ferry
Yuck
Management
I've been asked if I want to do that for over a decade, not interested
People π€’
clear ferry
Yuck programming
umbral cliff
you know them already?
They're a decently large firm
dusky plank
nah, smol
umbral cliff
They wanna be big 5 lol
dusky plank
They just throw money at problems
and are on the way to take over digital banking in eu
clear ferry
I should probably move to a consultancy firm at some point
dusky plank
lol mckinsey
clear ferry
Wife says her company should hire me to fix all their shit 
dusky plank
go to companies, be a smart ass, tell them fancy enterprise solutions fo $$$ and never be seen again when it comes to implementing stuff
a dream
clear ferry
That sounds like what sales is doing all over the shop
And i have to actually deliver magic
umbral cliff
go to companies, be a smart ass, tell them fancy enterprise solutions fo $$$ and...
Sounds like my project except support after implementation. They'll dump it all
finite atlas
Wife says her company should hire me to fix all their shit <:9ACOSP_CryPepeIgnor...
why not actually do it?
saves that company likely a lot of money long term
sweeten the deal with a impressive and easy fix to show your knowledge for a cheap price and tell them to pay big money if they want to book you again
clear ferry
I don't want to move, and I don't think they can match my terms anyway
dusky plank
I want to travel again π’
clear ferry
There is nothing stopping you!
dusky plank
humans are
dusky plank
clingy basterds
finite atlas
fly a plane yourself, then there wont be much other humans
dusky plank
its the hooomans at home π€¬
dusky plank
midlife crisis enters the chat
clear ferry
Buy a bike, get a mistress, buy an rgb desktop system
clear ferry
trying to tell my wifes friends that tiktok is a horrible information harvesting machine, but since it is the same people who are on facebook 8h a day, they just don't care
heck, it has access to your keyboard
wife thankfully is a security geek π
forest edge
heck, it has access to your keyboard
if you are referring to keyboard shortcuts many site have had access that way for many years
tidal bronze
Never knew tiktok did sweet potatoes and basil
ashen parrot
lol that heart looks like an arse
ashen parrot
I mean ppl's attitude is understandable in a way
cos they already been made aware that fb and the others you mentioned are already doing this
so in their mind, there's no difference
except, they haven't known communism ^^
ashen parrot
most people think communism is communism :))
I mean Im not advocating for it in any way shape or form but suffice to say what has been written down is not what has been practiced
btw where u from?
Im Romanian
clear ferry
ashen parrot
yeah you couldn't do or say anything against the way things were: even though everyone felt the same as you, they'd rat you out and the van would come in the middle of the night
get sent to a 're-education' camp
my grand-dad did 13 years political prison just for saying out loud that it's a shame workers get paid more than doctors like him who save lives
the guy who turned him in was one of the people who he saved π¦
low harness
No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and
rules-and-welcome.
Carry on, but keep this in mind.
low harness
Discussions are fine, as long as things are kept clean. I'm just reminding.
scenic radish
oh i'm probably part of that too lol. my bad. that's one of my favorite satire videos
ashen parrot
thank you
clear ferry
I'm never kept clean
I'm a dirty mf
If it is historically correct, is it not rather history than politics, or just _don't mention the war _
forest edge
my grand-dad did 13 years political prison just for saying out loud that it's a ...
can't imagine that. even the lowest paid doctors here still make 2-3 times that of the average worker
I do like this new insurance plan they are rolling out that helps separate the shit from the decent based on what they get paid
quick beacon
Hello Guys!
Any of you is going to attend at the Websummit in Lisbon/Portugal at the end of the month?
finite atlas
i'll join you!
forest edge
No, but I will be attending a big fat dumpster tonight
big fat dinner plate you say
last cedar
big fat dinner plate you say
Full with food, that isn't a raccoon, yes
harsh heath
skipping about 10 versions of 4 separate HACS integrations. Wish me luck. YEEET
forest edge
Full with food, that isn't a raccoon, yes
save a wild turkey. roast a racoon.
last cedar
save a wild turkey. roast a racoon.
I just killed your coyote
But
What does raccoon taste like?
I don't think I want to know
You are what you eat
And I just eat crap
static schooner
That looks like some weird Pepe le Pew knock off
forest edge
What does raccoon taste like?
dark meat chicken but more tender
er greasier is probably more like it
static schooner
they're like land carp
buoyant crescent
https://youtu.be/OCKrWHBsyQU
Calm down Luke Smith
clear ferry
umbral cliff
Anyone use Firefox on android and have the issue where it refuses to use local DNS?
glacial knot
no, but you probably want to look into FFs DoH
glacial knot
π
umbral cliff
Somehow has fixed itself. Will be keeping an eye on it
glacial knot
DoH is kinda weird. I need to look into how to get it to use my local resolver at some point...
clear ferry
local dns works fine in FF here
and my opnsense intercepts all port 53 requests from any device, and redirects them to opnsense, then tunnels them over DoT to cloudflare
glacial knot
afaik DoH is port 443, not 53
clear ferry
it is
and therefore it is hard to block without DPI
Unless you blacklist all known DoHs
forest edge
Anyone use Firefox on android
said no one ever
glacial knot
TLS breaking DPI even
tropic dew
I use Firefox on android, no issues
low harness
Just got new company guidelines to use decimal comma instead of point... man I wish you could use sed(1) in word.
umbral cliff
> Anyone use Firefox on android
said no one ever
I like my browsers syncing with each other lol
last cedar
dark meat chicken but more tender
:/
dusky plank
I do not accept people's preference to start their week with Sunday
nobody works on sunday you fools
scenic radish
I'm in the US and I agree--Monday makes more sense to start the week. I have my calendar set to that
glacial knot
yea starting the week during its end is dumb
clear ferry
Tedi is a proper European
Loves celsius, prefers meters, says Monday is start of week
scenic radish
I wish we used the metric system... I'm in this weird place where I use metric for computing/science and imperial for everything else π
clear ferry
Ah yes, my π in imperial and my π» in metric
scenic radish
forest edge
tedi is a terrorist
scenic radish
turbid stirrup
I want to see the world burn.
I like it when the week starts with Sunday, because then it starts with a day off.
dusky plank
anybody know how to make the tabs in code server "monospacing" ?
hm, doesn't look like its possible
ashen parrot
I want to see the world burn.
I like it when the week starts with Sunday, becaus...
then I recommend mr robot
for the first bit, not the second bit
keen bridge
hm, doesn't look like its possible
It would be a different theme/styling. That preference is just the size of the tabs.
last cedar
Loves celsius, prefers meters, says Monday is start of week
We all like Tedi
clear ferry
forest edge
cough cough ||sellout||
clear ferry
Finally getting around to doing my timecards for the last month
good thing the backend sucks currently
so noone is sending me reminder emails
I'll take the queens english please
static schooner
Now you'll see messages about lorries carrying bits through tubes
BTW, I think the language belongs to the King now
And I expect some big changes
dusky plank
you should try fedora while you are distro hopping
static schooner
#notmyking
clear ferry
I'm not distro hopping, I'm setting up templates in vmware
unfortunatly a lot of software requires centos\rhel
dusky plank
finite atlas
welcome to modernism
clear ferry
Reminds me about all the discussions I see in more homelab focused discords where users think everyone is out to get them, come on you aren't even in the top 100million of interesting people to track π
dusky plank
going to update my rpi2b today π₯²
it ran on a (broken) read-only sd card since 2019, and was grossly underpowered all the time
rip
clear ferry
yuck
last cedar
it ran on a (broken) read-only sd card since 2019, and was grossly underpowered ...
How to trigger @clear ferry in 1 sentence
umbral cliff
Reminds me about all the discussions I see in more homelab focused discords wher...
I know someone at uni who's so paranoid they have a USB for the bootloader, USB for the encryption key, and a password before you even get to the login screen
last cedar
USB might be the enemy though
clear ferry
I went to college with a guy who lived in the forest, with no internet, in a cabin, he knew where all the cameras at school was and avoided them, if anyone took his picture he ran after them and told them to delete it, he copied internet pages onto a usb drive at school and uploaded them at home
it's called mental disorders @umbral cliff
People think they are a lot more interesting than they are in general
other has mental disorders
clear ferry
USB might be the enemy though
Let me tell you about HDD firmware with integrated tracking software
finite atlas
i call that hate speech for telling the truth atx ):
clear ferry
umbral cliff
I went to college with a guy who lived in the forest, with no internet, in a cab...
Oh wow
That's extreme
clear ferry
He was.. very good at what he did though
he could program anything you asked him to in a few hours
and could debug mostly any code
umbral cliff
Also question for you lot, is POP3 ever used anymore outside of extreme situations or you lot still use it commonly?
umbral cliff
Because when my uni turned off POP3 for everyone there was outrage from comp sci area lol
dusky plank
all my homies hate pop3
clear ferry
it's a pita to do activesync or similar *nix mail clients
finite atlas
i dont even know what pop3 is
clear ferry
and I hate IMAP
dusky plank
what else is there though?
clear ferry
I just use o365 browser based mail
dusky plank
eh, i stay with imap
clear ferry
I wish I could use mutt or something though
I also wish there was a CLI client for protonmail
clear ferry
outlook does that too
umbral cliff
Exchange/ activesync is a great protocol. Shame it's just Microsoft shit
umbral cliff
outlook does that too
Gmail too iirc
dusky plank
outlook also says that my week starts on sunday, fuck off outlook!
clear ferry
clear ferry
yes, I have to change that too because MURICA COMPANY makes rules
π€’
Next I'll have to count my inbox number in inches
umbral cliff
I do like how Microsoft syncs your settings with outlook now. Never have to worry about setting it up just right
clear ferry
It has done that for a decade+
dusky plank
outlook is so confusing in most of its settings, I dont touch it
umbral cliff
It has done that for a decade+
The 365 cloud sync is new though?
clear ferry
depends on what you are referring to, client settings have been in outlook since at least 2009
umbral cliff
Not client settings. I'm talking how the settings sync between outlook installations
You open outlook on a brand new device and everything has copied across
clear ferry
everything what ?
dusky plank
the only reason I sometimes look into outlook is because my dad clicked something on his laptop and does not know how to revert it.
and neither do i.
clear ferry
ah, yeah signature might be more recent, other settings have been there since forever
dusky plank
see, its so complex you don't even agree on terms
clear ferry
But I think signature sync came in 365, so, 7 years ago ?
dusky plank
no normal person is going to struggle with that shite
umbral cliff
see, its so complex you don't even agree on terms
I like outlook. Voluntarily use it
dusky plank
mail.app and finished
umbral cliff
But I think signature sync came in 365, so, 7 years ago ?
Haven't seen it before last year/ year before iirc
umbral cliff
Office 365 ecosystem > *
Ehh google beats them on multi account sign in
Microsoft still cannot deal with that
clear ferry
Since 80+% of the enterprise space uses o365, working across enterprises is seamless
switching between teams and duo or whatever other nonsense is just tedious
instead of just swapping organization in the teams client
swap to customer xyz
swap to home enterprise
umbral cliff
Since 80+% of the enterprise space uses o365, working across enterprises is seam...
If you have the same login sure. If you have to login with 2 Microsoft accounts on the web or clients it just breaks
clear ferry
No
dusky plank
Yes
clear ferry
I login to three different environments right now in teams
dusky plank
its broken
clear ferry
I just swap between them
umbral cliff
I'm not sure how given teams doesn't support multiple separate accounts
umbral cliff
Since when
clear ferry
it adds you as a guest
umbral cliff
Yeah that's not changing accounts
And if you want to try and login to say SharePoint. If you last used account X then try to use a SharePoint for account y it won't let you easily swap. Just log out, log in, and hope it works
dusky plank
sure they will integrate multi login sometime next year
then the preference pane will be a mess in teams also
clear ferry
I see what you are after now
dusky plank
finally
clear ferry
I just open a private window in firefox, and login to my customer account
and keep two windows 
dusky plank
scrolling is already horrible in teams
umbral cliff
Also unsure why people say the outlook mobile app is good. It's slow as shit. Have to actually close it from the multitasking window else my phone lags to shit
dusky plank
every single message is a xhr
clear ferry
I don't use the mobile apps
because corporate makes us agree to remote wipe of entire phone
Yeah no
Pass
Send me a message and hope I'm at the computer
otherwise piss off
low harness
Don't you get a company issued phone?
umbral cliff
because corporate makes us agree to remote wipe of entire phone
If it's just outlook then it's siloed though
I have outlook on my phone, just because I like having the ability to have my calendar on my phone. Outside of business hours you're not getting a reply though
clear ferry
I have a company issued phone yes
And company paid subscription
Intune says siloed, HPE policy says entire phone, HPE IT won't reply to employee concerns about the wording, so we refuse to install it @umbral cliff
umbral cliff
Intune says siloed, HPE policy says entire phone, HPE IT won't reply to employee...
Ahh that's fair. I think our policy is just Microsoft apps get wiped. That I can live with
clear ferry
Yeah, the wording does not reflect that
and they won't change it
which means the wording is probably correct
So I told them to piss off
I reply whenever I'm online on my laptop
umbral cliff
Honestly that's fair. Unless they expect you & pay you to be on call (and provide an on call phone) there shouldn't be a demand you reply 24/7
Or even just if you step away
clear ferry
on call is fine, that is regular phone
that works without intune
and I charge them per started hour anyway, so gg calling me at 1am for asking me to read a mail
π
glacial knot
I'm using the corpa phone as main phone.
Corp can wipe the entire phone afaik. But can't access anything outside the work profile
Anything interesting is on the cloud either way, so why bother about the wipe?
Where "cloud" is partially local hosting and partially fastmail
clear ferry
It's just principle for me
I don't have a personal phone either
Hell i don't have a personal computer the last 3 years
dusky plank
you also use macs? π₯°
glacial knot
With the current corp lappy that might make sense
But I do enough dumb stuff on my laptop to not have it under corp MDM
clear ferry
I don't run corp image no
glacial knot
Not allowed to connect to corp without their image D:
They even have custom secure boot keys installed
Haven't tried to get into the bios though.
glacial knot
Oh, I have Linux on it
glacial knot
How german!
I changed job. I'm with an American company now D:
clear ferry
glacial knot
Doch!
clear ferry
dusky plank
doch has to be one of the weirdest german words for foreigners
clear ferry
Not for Norwegian tbh
glacial knot
doch has to be one of the weirdest german words for foreigners
Why?
dusky plank
is there a similar thing in norway?
clear ferry
men
glacial knot
αΊ is the weird one
dusky plank
because it does not exist in most other languages
clear ferry
Isn't the double s dead now ?
glacial knot
Also, I'm amused that the phone keyboard has αΊ not just Γ
scenic radish
sssssssssss
glacial knot
SZ pls. Also yes. And it's only been made official like last couple years
clear ferry
Oh
I've never seen a SZ
Seems Polish
Ε
@scenic radish does the american keyboard have any accents in by default ?
scenic radish
Like an actual hardware keyboard?
clear ferry
Norwegian has Γ Ε ΔΒ Ε Δ§ ΓΎ Ε
It seems
more than I knew
but we also have the superior ALTGR key
last cedar
<@562095811186524190> does the american keyboard have any accents in by default ...
Only Texan
glacial knot
I've never seen a SZ
αΊ is called scharfes(sharp) S or Sz
clear ferry
Apparently doch has all these meanings @dusky plank
To counter a negative
To say βactuallyβ, βand yetβ, βafter allβ, or βbutβ
To tone down statements
To seek confirmation
which can also be used with the norwegian men
clear ferry
Only Texan
clear ferry
Doch has more balls than Men though
And Men is also similar to But
so I don't see how Doch is special
dusky plank
the plural of regex is regrets
you heard it here first
follow me for more sensational facts
forest edge
figures my state would be one of the one's pushing back against the student debt loan relief
real tinsel
eheh the 5$ sensores arrive xD
clear ferry
Tuya π€’
real tinsel
what? those work great xD
waxen elbow
@scenic radish yes am a muse fan how did u tell
forest edge
eheh the 5$ sensores arrive xD
should say, spying inside instead of what it says
scenic radish
<@562095811186524190> yes am a muse fan how did u tell
your avatar π
waxen elbow
yeah i was being sarcastic π
scenic radish
oh π€£
clear ferry
last cedar
yeah i was being sarcastic π
Defo that and the KoT horse as tattoo ideas
Saw them live in 2003 and 2005, absolutely amazing
Used to have a Muse fansite too, with a close friend
waxen elbow
Saw them live in 2003 and 2005, absolutely amazing
i'm in milan next week to see them, and i saw the 2 other times this year
kinda hyperfixated with them
last cedar
Oh my, that sounds amazing!
I really prefer their old stuff, but the new album is very good too
OoS got me into playing bass, my brain is kinda stuck in that era, but the riffs are so good lol
I hope you have a great time!
dusky plank
scenic radish
Saw them live in 2003 and 2005, absolutely amazing
Muse are my favorite band
I've only seen them live once and it was unreal
last cedar
https://tenor.com/view/just-gif-4350739
I hope so!
Chris got me into playing bass
Saw them 2x in Manchester, UK
scenic radish
once in Chicago, US
forest edge
@tidal bronze you guys just can't win lol https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-10-20/california-wildfires-offset-greenhouse-gas-reductions
clear ferry
You play bass @last cedar ? We should start a band, @scenic radish plays drums and I play mostly anything, and @strange vapor plays keys π
last cedar
You play bass <@300242410338910209> ? We should start a band, <@5620958111865241...
Very badly yes
Also have an electric guitar that I play even worse
clear ferry
Play me Rammstein - Seemann and you are OK
orchid rose
So, I bought a 3d printer and now I have no idea what to use it for...
forest edge
So, I bought a 3d printer and now I have no idea what to use it for...
mine's still in the box
orchid rose
lol, it does sound like I'm not alone in this
forest edge
i have a few things I would like to try and print just don't have a good place to put it atm
not sure if the fumes on today's filament is as toxic as they use to be either
orchid rose
from what I read the standard PLA stuff is perfectly fine. It doesn't smell at all either
scenic radish
3D printing seems like more stress than I need in a hobby
forest edge
they keep saying once you got your setup all worked out the prints are pretty reliable
orchid rose
The few prints I did so far have turned out great
Did nothing more than manual bed leveling
forest edge
what printer did you get?
orchid rose
Voxelab Aquila X2 which is a Ender 3 clone
forest edge
i got the ender 3 pro still in box. so hopefully your experience is a good omen for me
orchid rose
It was very straight forward for me. Only thing was that the platform itself is wobbly. I had to put the manual under one corner to make it stable so the QC seems to be a bit off
Oh and it's loud af, as I read beforehand. Will have to eventually modify it to be quieter
forest edge
yea another reason i don't have a good place for it atm, the noise lol
clear ferry
I replaced the board on my ender 3 pro
and I can't hear it anymore
the steppers are absolutly silent
forest edge
what board?
orchid rose
The Aquila comes with a "quiet board" but it doesn't matter since the fans are hilariously loud. I'll probably end up swapping all of them
forest edge
I replaced the board on my ender 3 pro
you talking about this? https://www.amazon.com/Creality-3D-Upgrade-Motherboard-Mainboard/dp/B07TJNX4FB
orchid rose
I measured the heatsink and it's basically ambient temp, while the the fan is blowing at full blast all the time lol
There's a cover for the PSU to replace the stock fan with a 92mm one and some other mods for the mainboard
forest edge
if it's a clone of the ender there are assloads of mods out there from the small research I did
orchid rose
Ye. Just lots of work when they could just have made it quiet in the first place. Artillery Hornet was the other one I was looking at and they say it's extremely quiet. I just don't really like the looks of it and it's more limited in modding
forest edge
I need to open mine and look at it. I read they upgraded the ender parts while retaining the same name
the one in the box here might be completely diffrent than atx's
last cedar
@clear ferry I can play bass if @scenic radish can wear this costume... wait, is that Tediore?
forest edge
that's like the third question I asked atx in a week that he has completely ignored. is the norwat butthurt?
dusky plank
Kebab
last cedar
that's like the third question I asked atx in a week that he has completely igno...
Probably because you are so mean to me!
forest edge
Probably because you are so mean to me!
he's a norwegian.. that doesn't make any sense at all lol
I think it's @scenic radish's fault personally
tidal bronze
@forest edge you know CA is a pretty large piece of land, right? Unlike MO can't cross in 18 minutes.
Fire here and there, they happen.
clear ferry
Viscious allegators
dusky plank
wtf is that
clear ferry
An actual gif of Michelle
forest edge
<@104768700069990400> you know CA is a pretty large piece of land, right? Unlike...
is that why it's always on fire? lol
clear ferry
My current toddler tbh
prisma briar
Lol, the California fires have been a bit beyond "here and there" for a while. 4.3 million acres (17,401 sq km) burned in 2020. That's 4% of the state.
tidal bronze
4% of 100 vs 4% 1000, here and there.
forest edge
Good thing it's so large. otherwise you could grill without even going outside
tidal bronze
It's large. There's that, always. π
But I dearly appreciate the overwhelming concern. β€οΈ
prisma briar
My state likes to catch on fire too.
forest edge
lol reminds me of what i hear on the radio the other day
prisma briar
Though not quite as much.
forest edge
each coast is opposite of each other. west coast is kind but not nice. while east is kind while not nice
if you get a flat on the west coast people driving by will say they are sorry and that sucks then drive off
while people on the east coast will stop and insult you while changing your tire for you
prisma briar
If you get a flat in Denver people will flip you off and yell at you for impeding traffic as they pass, even if you're fully off the road.
tidal bronze
@forest edge
forest edge
that is exactly why that state is always on fire lol
tidal bronze
Most of us are atheists, unfortunately for you, karma does not work on us.
forest edge
Most of us are atheists, unfortunately for you, karma does not work on us.
rotf you would have to be. I mean the fire and earthquakes and you people just don't get the hint lol
hell maybe global warming is God's way of shifting hurricanes towards your coastline as well lol
tidal bronze
All for love as always. π
forest edge
prisma briar
I'm sure people would love to leave California, but then who is going to grow all your oranges?
forest edge
you are confusing california with florida
prisma briar
tidal bronze
Disoriented case of confusion
prisma briar
I'm confusing California with California.
finite atlas
Just had 3 moose in the garden
i saw some when i was in sweden! they are so calm walking over roads
finite atlas
You play bass <@300242410338910209> ? We should start a band, <@5620958111865241...
i'll chime in on a piano, i can play alle meine entchen
clear ferry
prisma briar
I've seen moose in the forests up north from me before
forest edge
interesting. didn't know they even grew oranges in either of those states
tidal bronze
All the oranges for the middle kf the country. Who eats oranges with that kinda high glycemic index.
forest edge
oh wait. california oranges are not oranges.. they are mutated like every other fruit from there
tidal bronze
Of course.
finite atlas
were you able to pat those moose and raindeer atx?
forest edge
so a chip off the old block huh
prisma briar
Both taste immaculate
When I was in elementary school we watched a video on Canadian Inuit tribes. It went over how they considered Caribou (Reindeer) eyes a delicacy. They showed a clip of some little girl biting into one and it crunched like an apple. One kid threw up over it which led to two more joining in.
clear ferry
I would be more afraid of a moose with calf than a bear
clear ferry
When I was in elementary school we watched a video on Canadian Inuit tribes. It ...
Haha, priceless, we don't do that, but we do smalahove
prisma briar
Yea, moose can get better traction on snow than your car and your car might not win in a fight against them
prisma briar
I don't think I'd eat eye.
clear ferry
I don't either
prisma briar
I'm not going to eat rocky mountain oysters either.
Those poor bulls
Or steer, I guess.
clear ferry
I've seen that
finite atlas
i like my bratwurst and kartoffelpΓΌree, i'm passing on the eye aswell
forest edge
prisma briar
i like my bratwurst and kartoffelpΓΌree, i'm passing on the eye aswell
See, that sounds like a good meal.
Not this 'Let's skin Rudolph and eat his fucking face' stuff.
clear ferry
I enjoy eating different cultures food, German food is great, so is Spanish, french is.. eh hit and miss, British is just fatty mcfat, but I love it
prisma briar
Crepes aren't directly inedible
forest edge
crepes are a joke
finite atlas
clear ferry
Hah
dusky plank
erdΓ€pfel
tidal bronze
How do stay so slim and maintain that perfect BMI?
clear ferry
My bmi is almost American levels thank you
prisma briar
My parents went and took a boat trip down the Rhine last year, that looked fun.
tidal bronze
I was referring to LA BMI
prisma briar
The "My diet is cigarettes and broken dreams" BMI.
forest edge
I was referring to LA BMI
so misleading between now and the 80's
prisma briar
The US isn't even in top 10 for BMI. All those Pacific Island nations beat us.
forest edge
norway is worse than us.. just some don't like to believe it
dusky plank
dusky plank
yeah one can hear that gif
finite atlas
My parents went and took a boat trip down the Rhine last year, that looked fun.
ew, western germany
prisma briar
Oh, crap, global warming and rising sea levels are going to put the US back into the top 10 for obesity once all these Pacific islands are under water.
tidal bronze
La BMI, the female BMI of Spanish speakers
Racial profiling might be cool in Norway, try saying that out loud here in LA esse
forest edge
lol esse
prisma briar
How is making a joke about language semantics racial profiling?
clear ferry
It's not my fault I speak half a dozen languages
prisma briar
I don't get offended every time someone points out English is a mess
clear ferry
γ¨γγ»
forest edge
I don't get offended every time someone points out English is a mess
careful. there are two types of english here
prisma briar
I took Japanese in highschool but only for a semester.
clear ferry
The Queen's English > other English
umbral cliff
Kings english now
prisma briar
Speaking of the UK, are they ever going to have a PM exit office with dignity?
tidal bronze
@prisma briar where do you live?
prisma briar
I'm in Colorado
forest edge
@tidal bronze you ever make it home yet? or you still on a plane somewhere?
clear ferry
Speaking of the UK, are they _ever_ going to have a PM exit office with dignity?
As likely as Italy having a not controversial PM
tidal bronze
<@331255319365812224> you ever make it home yet? or you still on a plane somewhe...
Grounded for like 18 hours. π
finite atlas
The Queen's English > other English
the queen has not died, she is just taking a pause and is testing the king
tidal bronze
Came to a mall, I think after 15 years. Shit, things have changed.
forest edge
malls still exists there?
prisma briar
Malls suck anymore, at least around here. They're all just low-end electronics, clothes, overpriced cutlery, and a food court.
umbral cliff
4% of 100 vs 4% 1000, here and there.
4% of California is a tiny amount of area burnt. Try Australia's 2019/2020 bushfire where it's equivalent to about 78% of California burnt
tidal bronze
malls still exists there?
Yep at the Beverly center.
prisma briar
Yea, there's like a half-dozen in Denver
prisma briar
No, indoor ones. Flatirons, SW Plaza, Park Meadows, Colorado Mills, Cherry Creek
forest edge
we pretty much got rid of all of ours for outside variants for awhile now
we still have drive in's tho
happy that hasn't died yet
prisma briar
There's a bunch of outdoor stripmalls
There's some drive-ins here. I'd rather just watch stuff at home though.
clear ferry
When I hear stripmall i immediately imagine strippers up and down the walkways between the shops
tidal bronze
Well stripmall is a full blown mall in Norway.
clear ferry
When I was in Georgia i saw two of the most American things I've ever seen, Drive Through cash machine, and drive through Pharmacy
forest edge
does norway even have strippers?
prisma briar
Colorado is cold and snowy for half the year, indoor malls don't seem that crazy to me.
dusky plank
We have drive thru atms as well.
They are convenient
tidal bronze
does norway even have strippers?
The only available one is busy on discord. So no.
clear ferry
What the fuck @dusky plank
That said, I haven't used physical cash in.... 15 years now?
Except when abroad
prisma briar
We have just drive-thru banks where you talk to the teller over an intercom and use a pneumatic tube system to send them money/paperwork/whatever.
They're everywhere.
dusky plank
Mans gotta buy drugs π€·ββοΈ
clear ferry
We have just drive-thru banks where you talk to the teller over an intercom and ...
The fuck
forest edge
The only available one is busy on discord. So no.
I really question what he actually thinks a "stripper" is lol
prisma briar
Actually, those might just be ATMs. I can't tell.
forest edge
another thing fading out here. drive thru banks with that many lanes lol
prisma briar
No, they're tellers. ATMs don't have the Open/Closed signs.
umbral cliff
That said, I haven't used physical cash in.... 15 years now?
For me it's since I got a debit card. Then have used it online and in person since. Cash died after that for me
prisma briar
another thing fading out here. drive thru banks with that many lanes lol
Yea, instead they seem to be going the route of one or two lanes per bank but a bank on every street corner.
clear ferry
I got a debit card in... 97? First credit card in 15
umbral cliff
Got a credit card for the frequent flyer points at the start of this year
forest edge
Yea, instead they seem to be going the route of one or two lanes per bank but a ...
yea, the sheer amount of them is nuts
tidal bronze
What a strange concept
You guys are a tiny economy, so might be hard to understand
clear ferry
Yeah, thankfully we don't scale to American ridiculous proportions
umbral cliff
You guys are a tiny economy, so might be hard to understand
Or maybe just for the rest of the developed world cash is dying π
clear ferry
forest edge
nothing wrong with having options
umbral cliff
And cities are walkable so don't need to drive through for stuff. Just walk to an ATM
Or get cash out at a supermarket
forest edge
Or get cash out at a supermarket
hello mr 1970's
clear ferry
I think the last time I used an ATM was probably around 2005
tidal bronze
Or maybe just for the rest of the developed world cash is dying π
Rest of the world got no asada tacos. So I get it.
clear ferry
In Norway that is
umbral cliff
hello mr 1970's
It still works though. If you need $20 for an event or whatever that's cash only (super rare now) then grab it when getting your groceries
Or go to a nearby ATM if you want to go out of your way
prisma briar
Most grocery stores have an ATM too
tidal bronze
I am totally against cash and ATM cards not because anything but points on credit cards.
clear ferry
What events are cash only? Even kids fleamarkets do mobile pay or nfc now @umbral cliff
forest edge
our grocery stores may have a single atm kiosk in them but that's about the extent.. NOONE gets cash back through the lanes anymore tho
clear ferry
umbral cliff
What events are cash only? Even kids fleamarkets do mobile pay or nfc now <@1371...
Thinking back to a uni event in 2017. Last time I had that, was only because people werent organised and didn't get a reader in time
forest edge
I accumulate cash like mad, yet I never use it. weird being one of those people who has wads of cash stashed in the house lol
umbral cliff
our grocery stores may have a single atm kiosk in them but that's about the exte...
Same thing here for very few getting it. Helped by the fact most self checkouts are card only
tidal bronze
I accumulate cash like mad, yet I never use it. weird being one of those people ...
Drop a pin. Pronto
prisma briar
I know ATMs here had a bit of a resurgence because weed dispensaries don't accept cards
Because banks don't want to deal with that
clear ferry
Most stores here are only one manual checkout now, if any, rest are self check out
forest edge
I know ATMs here had a bit of a resurgence because weed dispensaries don't accep...
that is actually kind of funny
tidal bronze
Because banks don't want to deal with that
That's not the bank, it's FED controlled
umbral cliff
Reminds me, haven't had to insert my card for a transaction (unless I wanted to) for over 5 years now. Everything is contactless, if it's over the limit just tap and pin
prisma briar
The grocery store across the road from me has like 8 self checkout kiosks and another 6 or 8 lanes with a cashier at them
forest edge
gross
umbral cliff
Convenient you mean
tidal bronze
NFC is the way to go. There's a limit?
clear ferry
Yeah, NFC has been big for a long time now, standard for... 10+ years now
prisma briar
Almost everywhere here has tap pay anymore
forest edge
I just watched a video the other day about how dangerous and insecure those tap and go things are
umbral cliff
NFC is the way to go. There's a limit?
Usually a max amount you can tap without putting a pin in
clear ferry
β¬35 or so in most of Europe
tidal bronze
We don't have pins and I haven't seen a limit so far.
umbral cliff
Yeah, NFC has been big for a long time now, standard for... 10+ years now
Mid to late 2000s it took off here, chip only required from early 2010s and then NFC really took off
umbral cliff
β¬35 or so in most of Europe
$200 in Aus, or like 10k for mobile payments
clear ferry
Orly
umbral cliff
I just watched a video the other day about how dangerous and insecure those tap ...
And that's why your bank will protect you for fraud anyway. Not a huge deal
prisma briar
My card will reject transactions over like $100 if I try tap paying, then my bank will e-mail me asking to confirm the transaction and let it go through next time if I do. If I use chip+pin that limit is like $2,000.
umbral cliff
Surely bank app notification
clear ferry
At least it wasn't fax
umbral cliff
Or even text at least
prisma briar
They also send me a notice through their app but it generally takes longer than the e-mail does to come through
The e-mail is basically instant, the app takes like 30 seconds.
umbral cliff
Here if I tap for over $200 it just asks for a pin, enter it, all good to go
forest edge
they use whatever you have on file
tidal bronze
Pin?
forest edge
if you don't have a cell number on file but an email address you get emails
tidal bronze
Why tap, if there's a pin?
umbral cliff
Why tap, if there's a pin?
It's only pin for over $200, and saves the whole insert, etc stuff too
prisma briar
I don't get SMS notifications/2fa for banking because that's incredibly stupid. Why are you worried about rf skimmers but not about sms hijacking?
umbral cliff
Tap, 4 digit pin, done
forest edge
I don't get SMS notifications/2fa for banking because that's incredibly stupid. ...
wait what?
tidal bronze
Don't have pins and I haven't come across a limit for tap to pay so far.
dusky plank
I get push messages, no sms π«£
forest edge
my bank dosen't send me anything any hacker could use
tidal bronze
You deal with a bank?
umbral cliff
I don't get SMS notifications/2fa for banking because that's incredibly stupid. ...
SMS hijacking requires a bit more effort than buying a RFID reader lol
But same with Sonoma, all my bank says is "transfer successful" or similar types of messages
prisma briar
SMS is horrible for security. Carriers have repeatedly proven themselves to be weak to things like social engineering and technical exploits.
umbral cliff
Don't have pins and I haven't come across a limit for tap to pay so far.
Eww no pin. That's stupid
forest edge
You deal with a bank?
we all don't have pimps who hold our money
tidal bronze
Eww no pin. That's stupid
Eww your credit card protections.
finite atlas
I don't get SMS notifications/2fa for banking because that's incredibly stupid. ...
because sms hijacking wont help them either
they still need the banking credentials and the banks 2fa authentication access and credentials
tidal bronze
Always credit cards or charge.
forest edge
yea would be stupid not to use a cc
tidal bronze
Well amex or nothing.
clear ferry
No thank you, don't need the capitalist dream of credit score nΓΈnsense
dusky plank
Direct debit or whatever its called is the real wicked thing
umbral cliff
Visa Credit card from me 99% of the time just because I want my points
forest edge
hell the perks alone make using a cc worth it
tidal bronze
Visa Credit card from me 99% of the time just because I want my points
Yep always. Points.
umbral cliff
No thank you, don't need the capitalist dream of credit score nΓΈnsense
I like Australia for that. Everyone starts with a good credit score meaning it's useless except to identify who doesn't repay
prisma briar
SMS hijacking requires a bit more effort than buying a RFID reader lol
But same ...
Skimming rfid cards isn't really feasible anymore, from what I understand. They do two-way communication with a small on-board cryptographic module in the card and the responses can't be replayed.
umbral cliff
Skimming rfid cards isn't really feasible anymore, from what I understand. They ...
No but you can get a square payment reader, etc and just do transactions on the spot
Plus some cards still openly expose their details over NFC and then you can use them online, etf
*etc
forest edge
too bad none of you will ever know what an open tab is like
tidal bronze
Visa Master is not great on disputes, extended warranty, cellphone protection, rentals and insurance.
umbral cliff
too bad none of you will ever know what an open tab is like
A bar tab? Yes of course I know what it's like
tidal bronze
too bad none of you will ever know what an open tab is like
I know.
forest edge
not just for bars
umbral cliff
Visa Master is not great on disputes, extended warranty, cellphone protection, r...
Luckily my bank handles that instead of visa
prisma briar
I use four spaces instead of tabs
clear ferry
prisma briar
Yea, I've always done cc disputes through my bank. I've never called Visa directly.
tidal bronze
Luckily my bank handles that instead of visa
For me it's Amex. Even covers phone damages.
umbral cliff
I need to check what insurance I get on my card. Know I get travel insurance. And rental car insurance. Unsure on anything else
Never thought of using it
tidal bronze
Rental CDW is super worldwide can save a lot.
clear ferry
We had amex at work for years, most useless credit card i ever had, when I travelled in Europe it was 1/10 that accepted it and it was useless for any kind of parking in Norway
prisma briar
My Visa gets me rental car insurance/travel insurance/roadside assistance
forest edge
quads tombstone will be in the shape of a seat flip up tray
finite atlas
Yea, I've always done cc disputes through my bank. I've never called Visa direct...
for what did you need to open a dispute?
clear ferry
Taxi drivers shunned amex like the plague
umbral cliff
Here they just charge a surcharge for amex lol
clear ferry
Lol
tidal bronze
Most don't accept amex if they have shitty service and runs a business that can't pay 3%. Plus no questions asked click to dispute.
umbral cliff
Like minimum is pretty much 2% for amex, 0 for EFTPOS or visa/MC
prisma briar
for what did you need to open a dispute?
Years ago T-Mobile refused to refund me when I got a Note 5 that wouldn't register touches that I'd already returned, and a couple months ago Amazon had a 'glitch' in their system that was preventing a refund from going through and I got tired of waiting after a couple weeks of nonsense with them.
T-Mobile screwed up marking the phone as received and I just couldn't get in touch with anyone who could fix it, idk what Amazon's issue was.
forest edge
open a dispute because of impatience?
clear ferry
I've never had to dispute a charge in my life come think of it, the one time my card got skimmed the Norwegian bank transfer company just blocked the transaction while I was on a flight and sent me an SMS about sending me a new card
tidal bronze
open a dispute because of impatience?
Always
tidal bronze
Yep. I don't have time to give reasons or argue. If it's unfair for me, click dispute.
forest edge
never had an issue where I needed that money that fast lol
prisma briar
It was more that calling my bank took me 15 minutes, continuing to argue with Amazon would have taken hours.
forest edge
don't they record the amount of disputes and that tags against you?
prisma briar
It'd already been hours at that point.
finite atlas
ever since i stopped using paypal, i never needed to open a dispute again
forest edge
I remember reading sometrhing about that
umbral cliff
I've never had to dispute a charge in my life come think of it, the one time my ...
So far haven't had my card details stolen. Have gotten my mum's credit card frozen though. Bought a couple steam games and that tripped the system and blocked it π
clear ferry
Lol
tidal bronze
If its about the money, you should not be using Amex @forest edge
prisma briar
Lol, banks don't care if you file two chargebacks a decade.
clear ferry
Had my card skimmed once in 25 years of travel abroad
umbral cliff
don't they record the amount of disputes and that tags against you?
It can affect whether they'll approve it. Since it could be you just doing cc fraud
umbral cliff
Had my card skimmed once in 25 years of travel abroad
Was it in America π
clear ferry
No, Landan innit
forest edge
If its about the money, you should not be using Amex <@104768700069990400>
odly I think my bank card does go through amex lol
tidal bronze
$695 yearly, why wait.
finite atlas
oh what i like to do, is mess with my friends
paying them money with reasons like "protection money" or "drug money"
one of them got dragged into his banks backrooms and questioned about the money
umbral cliff
Looks fancy enough for me lol
tidal bronze
I don't like amex credit cards, not much bang for the buck.
finite atlas
how much are you paying for that extra fancy card?
umbral cliff
oh what i like to do, is mess with my friends
paying them money with reasons lik...
Lol I love doing that
forest edge
what makes that a "fancy" card?
umbral cliff
how much are you paying for that extra fancy card?
$0 annual fee