#the-water-cooler

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brazen fable
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fuck it, it worked

ashen parrot
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whats a schlauge lock

brazen fable
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I got smart locks on all my shit

ashen parrot
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nice

brazen fable
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I custom designed my own dashboards too within the limited design functions of home assistant

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I'm pretty happy with it

last cedar
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Anyone have issues with cats?

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Due to unforseen circumstances we now have 6

brazen fable
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lmao

ashen parrot
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yes, I have an existential issue with cats :))

last cedar
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Was in my kitchen minding my own business yesterday and a tiny kitten was under my works car....

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And now it is sleeping on my leg

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Ffs

brazen fable
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congrats you've been adopted

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I like it much better than stock

last cedar
ashen parrot
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oh

last cedar
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SMOL

brazen fable
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He looks like trouble

ashen parrot
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do u have doods object recognition for your cat cams?

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like you could set a coloured light to different colours according to which place the cat got in

last cedar
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3 of them are sterlie, the other 2 are juat coming of age to be sterlised

last cedar
ashen parrot
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I meant scolias cos he said he has em

brazen fable
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No

forest edge
somber flint
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My Huawei P30 from 2019 seems better than my Google Pixel 5a from 2021. And the Mate 10 I had before that was pretty decent too. Haven't used their tablets though. Their offerings did seem to get worse after the US went after them

brazen fable
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The pixel line is hot trash too

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lmao

somber flint
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Yup, I realized that 🙂

brazen fable
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Tends to happen when you buy budget devices

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or chinese trash

somber flint
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Yeah, unfortunately I don't want to pay more than that

last cedar
somber flint
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Don't think it's trash though

last cedar
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It might actually be a raccoon though, I am hoping

clear ferry
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I buy last gen usually, never been disappointed, Huawei p9, Huawei p10 pro, Huawei p20 pro, OnePlus 8 pro

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The OnePlus is great, I've heard mixed stuff about the 9s

brazen fable
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Gross.

somber flint
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I haven't followed their offerings since the US went after them. No 5G and no android updates now right?

clear ferry
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Huawei is out now yeah

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They were getting too good, capitalism had to kill them

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The p50 looked great spec wise though

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OnePlus has no limits

brazen fable
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Their products are hot trash riddled with spyware

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Thanks but no thanks

clear ferry
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I prefer being spied on by the Chinese over the US 😉

brazen fable
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Literally anything that's chinese made/designed is trash

clear ferry
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Oppos are quite interesting too

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I did try a few Xiaomi ones, but I wasn't impressed by the cameras

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Guessing the Chinese EVs will surpass Tesla in sales here soon

forest edge
somber flint
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Yeah, I'll see what comes along. If my next phone is a Huawei I'll port the android HA app to harmony OS

last cedar
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It has sounded like a snake pit in here for a few hours, so much hissing

forest edge
last cedar
clear ferry
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Lynx you say

forest edge
clear ferry
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Norsk skogskatt or gtfo @last cedar

forest edge
clear ferry
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They don't shed that much

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They are made to be outdoor in arctic climate

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Their fur is water repellent too

dusky plank
clear ferry
forest edge
last cedar
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glacial knot
clear ferry
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You jest, but that is pretty normal

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I often feed the neighborhood cats yuckdoge

glacial knot
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cats tend to just roam the area and hang out where they like it /shrug

clear ferry
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All the neighborhood cats and dogs love me

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Except the crazy dog lady dogs

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She has like 6 poms and a Chow chow

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One of the poms just spin on its axis trying to get under cars driving past

glacial knot
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sounds like a suicidal dog

umbral cliff
forest edge
glacial knot
somber flint
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Yeah..they have a fifth of the world's population and a good infrastructure in place for making things. They are capable of making their own space station and sending a rover to Mars...

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It's funny to see Amazon comments asking where the product is made...good luck finding alternatives at that price point. Heck, the ipcamtalk guys are anti China but end up buying their cams from a seller in Shenzhen 😅

forest edge
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there's china and then there's respectable chinese

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they are not the same thing by any means

umbral cliff
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It's just cheap is usually crap and people prefer cheap lmao

glacial knot
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hey, free is usually the best 🙂

forest edge
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it's not even cheap being the issue

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it's the slap together to make a quick buck ethic

somber flint
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Yeah I'm not a big proponent of them by any means..just spent 30 mins at the barber complaining about them

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Yeah the ethos is bad but it's really just a manifestation of the opportunities and incentives. Any other developing nation will also try to sell you fake stuff or crap

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Just that the other ones aren't good at making it

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The US was like that once upon a time. When they took the mantle from the UK there was a lot of IP theft

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If you go into the coca cola museum in atlanta

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There's a big wall of all these fake knockoff brands from that era

forest edge
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knockoff's of editable is not really the same thing. walmart use to sell it's own line of soda and a lot of people preferred some of it's versions over name brand but the product wasn't any better or worse for you or in quality

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china is different. the materials used are crap to begin with. stuff like metals produced locally in china is completely crap which is why the better stuff created there outsource their initial materials

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the whole country was built on a factory line with a factory type system in place from the very get go

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why soe many companies outsourced labor from there

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but the materials used were also outsourced in most cases

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they were hands, nothing else

somber flint
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It wasn't generic cola it was real IP infringement. But I don't remember the details. Like a lot of people did it cuz there were no good protections at the time

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Yeah, I hear you on that

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Like they are built to make cheap stuff, so it's hard to ensure quality there

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That's just incentives

forest edge
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again, that's not the same thing. nothing like china drowning the market with rip off seaways to the point the chinese company was able to buy out segway

somber flint
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Yeah, that's different, but also just incentives

forest edge
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like i said, there is china and then there is respectable chinese. anything that comes out of that country that is actually worth a damn was made from something refined somewhere else and then shipped there. anything pure local is complete trash

somber flint
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I mean basically when you get to nation trade level stuff it's pretty shady everywhere

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The US f'ed over many European countries over the years

forest edge
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don't see how

somber flint
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Well, that's just not true that everything there is complete trash. But there is a lot of trash. Starting from what you mentioned..the industrial base was grown out of outsourcing the lowest tier/cheapest products there

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And exacerbated by a huge disparity between worker wages and the incentives of being shady

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And also by the CCP

forest edge
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CCP or not, that country was born screaming about disrespect while dishing it in bulk at the same time

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just read an article about an airport in africa that the african goverment took a loan from china to build an airport to increase trade and during the pandemic they couldn't pay so the chinese lockdown the airport and kept everything paid thus far

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so even now there is a chinese controlled airport africa isn't allowed to use

last cedar
clear ferry
glacial knot
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or starbux

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or any american company

forest edge
somber flint
# forest edge just read an article about an airport in africa that the african goverment took ...

That's quite a tangent from the quality of goods they produce. I don't think anyone here is saying they are altruistic or not self interested or not opportunistic. I certainly am not. Of course there are a lot of arguments to be made there on both sides, with a lot of whataboutism involved. All I'm saying is that there are explanations for their behavior that don't involve conjuring a uniquely corrupt culture. I do think they have some decent products - I'm open to buying a good roborock vac or DJI drone or dahua camera.

somber flint
forest edge
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he's just jabbing amazon cause he's jealous his chinese supply route will likely be going under soon and he can't get 1 day shipping from amazon

clear ferry
clear ferry
forest edge
clear ferry
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It sure is, there is no common economic zone like the EU, nor same governing law institution

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But I understand this can be hard with a mediocre education

forest edge
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first you invent the clumping then you nitpick it

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typical

clear ferry
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You are the ones who identify as a single nation but are 50 , its the other way around yuckdoge

forest edge
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states are not countries by any definition lol

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unlike some people we know, we can cross into other states and are protected by the same universal fedral laws

clear ferry
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And Africa isn't a nation by any definition

forest edge
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it's a clumping

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just as it's intended when spoken

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like EU..

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don't hate the player, hate the game

clear ferry
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Nobody except Americans use the term EU to clump the countries of Europe

forest edge
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nobody? you coined the phrase! rotf

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your starting to sound chinese

clear ferry
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It defines an economic and lawmaking zone, it doesn't define the countries

forest edge
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blah blah blah

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noone cares what you define it as, we define it as your all smooshed and sleep in one room

clear ferry
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And this is where education has failed you

glacial knot
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I'm always amused by American's that can't get the difference between Europe and the EU

umbral cliff
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I know an American who was shocked that Germany had states 😂

forest edge
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be thankful, we would rather define you by land mass seperated by water

clear ferry
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I know continents can be hard too

forest edge
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how's the USSR atx?

clear ferry
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you'll get the eventually

forest edge
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be so much easier to just call you the soviet union lol

clear ferry
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At least we aren't built on an ancient indian burial ground

forest edge
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not sure if your burial ground is any better lol

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wait, you don't have ground to bury on

clear ferry
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Yes, you aren't allowed to die or be buried on Svalbard

glacial knot
forest edge
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not worth the hassel, likely be just swept out to sea by mud slide anyways

proven spruce
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who do they fine if you decide to be a rebel die on Svalbard anyway?

forest edge
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noone it's an ancient law that isn't exactly upheld anymore according to the video i saw about it

clear ferry
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They transport you off by force @proven spruce

proven spruce
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but the act is done already, you're a dead criminal

umbral cliff
umbral cliff
clear ferry
glacial knot
umbral cliff
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On a side note, have to visit more of Germany at some point. Have only been to Frankfurt

hushed basalt
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Where do you think I got it

glacial knot
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to Frankfurt, or only the Airport of Frankfurt? 😄

umbral cliff
hushed basalt
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Plus Norwegians have gotten fat and lazy off the teat of basically free power for too long

umbral cliff
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Stayed in Frankfurt for like 3-4 days. Quick trip over from the UK to visit a friend who was there

umbral cliff
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I should visit Munich just to go visit those places

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Surely they do tours

glacial knot
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BMW has a sort of Museum there
Audi is afaik a bit pissy about people on their premise. Though I assume they have a visitor area as well

umbral cliff
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Where's Mercedes based?

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But honestly I just want to rent a car and drive around Germany/ other places in Europe too.

But first would have to get very comfortable with a manual car 😂

glacial knot
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I think Stuttgart

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wikipedia agrees with me

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that's in BaWü

clear ferry
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glacial knot
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mhhm. We adjusted and can accommodate those who never learned to drive

clear ferry
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Hah, i switched to automatic in 2011

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Never going back tbh

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Modern automatic go brrrrr

umbral cliff
clear ferry
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I've never seen auto not being an option

umbral cliff
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I learnt auto because it's easy and I only have automatic cars. Can drive a manual if I'm desperate, but prefer not to

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Also the clutch would prefer me not to

somber flint
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The manual is cheaper but they usually have an option

clear ferry
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In Germany, France, uk, Ireland, Sweden, Spain and Norway

somber flint
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I always book the manual

clear ferry
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Or as Sonoma would say, EU

somber flint
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Last time in Bordeaux and Mykonos they gave me the manual, but in Rome they "upgraded" me to an auto that was too big to park

forest edge
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manual on a roller skate would be cancer. manual on a sports car on the other hand

clear ferry
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Said the nation with 7.4l engines than put out 180bhp

forest edge
glacial knot
forest edge
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7.4 is generally only found in trucks

clear ferry
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Anything that is DSG or newer is heaven, so the last 20 years or so

clear ferry
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Even the non dsg on my Audi A8 2000 was very smooth

forest edge
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old 70's cars were never factory tuned to reach thier full potential on purpose

clear ferry
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It says so, but the car felt like a Subaru justy in terms of acceleration

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But you could see the gas needle move while driving

forest edge
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i mean thats olden days for ya

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most of those engines your talking shit about was exported to your neck of the woods and put in shit with weird names

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just fyi

glacial knot
clear ferry
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No thank you, we had German engineering and Japanese engines

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Both were an upgrade

forest edge
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it wasn't german or japanese that won you races lol

glacial knot
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I'll take Swedish chassis as well

clear ferry
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forest edge
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like trying to drive your house and complain about it using fuel to do it

clear ferry
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And have 6 cigarette lighters and ash trays

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The dream

forest edge
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car ash trays were always shit

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the lighter tho was really handy

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hell they made jump packs that just plugged into your lighter so you wouldn't even need to raise the hood

clear ferry
forest edge
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its like you are proud of your messy house, posting so many random pictures

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at least capture something cool

glacial knot
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who wants cigarette lighters in their car D:

clear ferry
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Yes, the life with kids is great

glacial knot
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there's a reasno we just call them sockets now

forest edge
glacial knot
clear ferry
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Yes, this is my garage

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It's very nice

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I park in front of the TV

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Pretending I'm at the drive in

forest edge
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fuse break?

clear ferry
tidal bronze
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Is that a sound bar 😦

forest edge
clear ferry
tidal bronze
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Fan of Klipsch but a sound bar 🤔

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@forest edge kinda 😀 before coffee.

clear ferry
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It's quite good, it's only the 600

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The 800-1200 have atmos support

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But this was big enough for our use by far

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And it has night mode, where it still sounds good without sub and lower Dynamic range, which is great with sleeping kids

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Was between this and the sonos arc, Sonos felt cheap in comparison

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Interesting segment on the vulnerability of the us power grid on the latest 60 minutes @forest edge

tidal bronze
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They are not bad but I can't justify them for the main viewing position. Yet to hear a bar with accurate center to sub xover.

clear ferry
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All of them

forest edge
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the grid is really only shitty in two states

clear ferry
tidal bronze
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I have, all my mains and outdoor speakers are Klipsch. I get to test them at the distributor, used to be a dealer. 😀

forest edge
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can't help you watch a show that knows foreigners are the only one's still watching it so skews the reality to keep them hooked because they don't know any better

clear ferry
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Ok then, keep your eco terrorists who shoot up power transformers

forest edge
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sounds like something california would do for sure but I haven't heard of it

clear ferry
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I've seen multiple segments on it over the years

forest edge
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lol over the years?

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you read the Enquire too?

umbral cliff
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Sonoma I like how you blame every issue in the USA on California

clear ferry
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One of them

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On April 16, 2013, an attack was carried out on Pacific Gas and Electric Company's Metcalf transmission substation in Coyote, California, near the border of San Jose. The attack, in which gunmen fired on 17 electrical transformers, resulted in more than $15 million worth of equipment damage, but it had little impact on the station's electrical p...

tidal bronze
clear ferry
forest edge
clear ferry
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I can't take domestic news from someone who thinks Africa is a country thankfully @tidal bronze

umbral cliff
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Well given you would blame the EU even if it was Norway, then we should blame the USA even if it's California

forest edge
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atx was insulted I refered to africa like we refer to eu.. he wanted them to be the only ones

clear ferry
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Did you say EEA

forest edge
umbral cliff
forest edge
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I didn't coin the phrase

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they did

umbral cliff
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Or shall we just call Canada/ USA/ Mexico the Americas. With no distinction between them

clear ferry
forest edge
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if we coined it then sure

umbral cliff
tidal bronze
forest edge
clear ferry
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At least the boss of grammar

umbral cliff
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The europeans would be the boss of the term, and they don't like being called The EU

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Given European includes a few more countries than EU lmao

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Like Switzerland, or the UK

clear ferry
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Heck, don't call me European

forest edge
clear ferry
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They are all fools of a took

forest edge
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don't hate the player, hate the game

umbral cliff
forest edge
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they refer to it ever chance they get

clear ferry
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Must be a fox news thing

forest edge
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when something goes bad they want to be looked at seperatly, when one of them does something right they want to be viewed as united

umbral cliff
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When was the last time you visited the EU Sonoma and what country did you go to

forest edge
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children in a school yard

clear ferry
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You mean outside Missouri @umbral cliff

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He hasn't been in California I'm betting

forest edge
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i know states and countries sound a like in old english.. but..

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it's hard to grasp modren things i get it

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if only the kings and queens didn't drop the ball maybe you all would be more simple

umbral cliff
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I'm seeing no answer to my question about visiting Europe

glacial knot
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why would you visit europe? There's nothing to see here.

clear ferry
umbral cliff
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Oh yeah the entire EU is the same lul all socialist slums

glacial knot
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Yea, where people have to travel by bicycle D:

umbral cliff
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Don't forget the dreaded free healthcare

clear ferry
forest edge
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don't you mean pavement?

umbral cliff
forest edge
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don't you mean pavement as well?

umbral cliff
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No? It's footpath here

forest edge
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oh, you branched out.. yay for you

clear ferry
glacial knot
umbral cliff
clear ferry
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Only bike lanes in the cities

forest edge
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you people don't even call them sidewalks yet here you are

glacial knot
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shared bike and walk is usually only between villages here

forest edge
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good to see the proper english taking hold

clear ferry
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@umbral cliff

forest edge
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we have those

umbral cliff
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Highways? Yeah we know

forest edge
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used for motorized devices mostly

umbral cliff
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They're basically your suburban streets

clear ferry
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I did see them in Georgia, they abruptly end randomly yes

forest edge
glacial knot
clear ferry
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Not that Georgia

forest edge
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lulz

clear ferry
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But yes, American infrastructure is just as bad

forest edge
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atleast our ground dosen't turn to liquid and wash us out to sea..

clear ferry
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No, you just have eternal coal mine fires

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And other nice stuff

forest edge
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oh?

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i'd actually like to see that

clear ferry
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The Centralia mine fire is a coal-seam fire that has been burning in the labyrinth of abandoned coal mines underneath the borough of Centralia, Pennsylvania, United States, since at least May 27, 1962. Its original cause is still a matter of debate. It is burning in underground coal mines at depths of up to 300 ft (90 m) over an 8 mi (13 km) str...

forest edge
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i do know about that eternal methane gas fire hole in the middle east

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pretty sure that's kept lit at this point lol

clear ferry
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Oh

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Damn mainstream media

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Making fake news again

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Gosh dang it

tidal bronze
clear ferry
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California is probably one of the better states

forest edge
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lulz

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yea quad, your one of the "better" states

clear ferry
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I saw nothing in most of NJ and NY that i visited, Georgia was horrid in terms of reliability

umbral cliff
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Sonoma has probably never seen a bus in his life

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Or a train

forest edge
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i mean, i only live in the midwest

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trains don't exist here..

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they fly over from east to west

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like quad in buisness class

clear ferry
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So you never left the Midwest, is what you are saying

forest edge
clear ferry
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That didn't answer the question, but I guess it did

forest edge
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can't help your memory is shit

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considering we had this coversation a few times already lol

umbral cliff
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I would hate staying in the same place

forest edge
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i would hate stay in your place too

umbral cliff
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More stuff here then in middle nowhere USA

forest edge
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yea like car parks that swallow cars

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and animals and insect that kill you

umbral cliff
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Lmao you're obsessed with that carpark

forest edge
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i mean..

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can't help shit happens in the locations they happen in

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we been over this

umbral cliff
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Im happy with where I am, get to work on government projects which are fun

tidal bronze
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Gotta sit down with a coffee for this 🤣

umbral cliff
clear ferry
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Mia Califia almond milk you say

tidal bronze
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2nd choice, out of macadamia milk. 😜

forest edge
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what position does blending a bunch of shit while wearing spandex come in?

tidal bronze
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You guys blend while in spandex down there?

forest edge
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thankfully that never left the coastal states

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I really hope they bring paddling back to more areas

clear ferry
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Ah yes, the devolvement of the USA

forest edge
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proper discipline is not devolement when modren practice continually show to fail

clear ferry
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only in developing countries

forest edge
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i agree, undeveloped probably never stopped

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look at india

tidal bronze
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Turkish Airlines, something else. What a shitshow

forest edge
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#1 capital for spam calls

tidal bronze
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Changed my flights 3 times and now canceled a leg. Screwed up my entire schedule

clear ferry
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spam calls is inheritently an american problem, so someone sold your number to some indian callcenter for capitalism @forest edge 😉

forest edge
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not that anyone cares but russians get them

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italy

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australia

clear ferry
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so underdeveloped countries then, without laws protecting citizens

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thats two at least

forest edge
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it's many

clear ferry
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yall got spam calls  @umbral cliff

forest edge
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just not gonna sit here and name them all cause I don't remember the list nor care to type that much

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EU gets them

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hahahaha

glacial knot
clear ferry
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EU yeah

glacial knot
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nah, they are AU

clear ferry
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that damn big country

forest edge
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when the phone lines work they get them.. so what? 25% of the time

clear ferry
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We have retired phone lines, so who knows

forest edge
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was talking about au

glacial knot
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yea, only old people still have landlines

forest edge
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germany gets them

clear ferry
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you get spam calls @glacial knot ?

glacial knot
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no

clear ferry
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thought so

forest edge
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norway prob only never gets them cause they forget you exist

glacial knot
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since they changed some regulation that they always have to start with their company when cold calling, they kinda died off

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oh yea, also requirements to enable caller id and stuff for anything business related

umbral cliff
forest edge
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like i said, norway only never gets them cause people forget they even exist

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so both a blessing and a curse

clear ferry
tidal bronze
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We have it bad.

forest edge
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i would bet, they target you and texas on purpose

tidal bronze
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Although I am yet to receive one.

forest edge
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and NY

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I think the national do not call list center is ran out of california if i am not mistaken

umbral cliff
glacial knot
umbral cliff
clear ferry
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The berlin spectator appears to be a very shady newspaper too

forest edge
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it's not full proof

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but it most certian helps a lot

umbral cliff
glacial knot
forest edge
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yes it catches the legit ones

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but it also goes hand in hand with the phone provider

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kind of like how uBlock works for the browser

umbral cliff
tidal bronze
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Most dial lists are randomly generated and dials till they get a voice pickup.

forest edge
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damn machine calling

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need a big fat emp to hit turkey

tidal bronze
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Very little to do with do not call list or any list

glacial knot
forest edge
umbral cliff
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Since I have a need to pick up my phone, I just started saying nothing and waiting to listen for a voice. If nothing it's 99% of the time an autodialler

forest edge
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numbers that make it through but are suspected get labeled as Spam by the caller id through spectrum

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google does the same thing

tidal bronze
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Easiest work around is disable VM. If the machine dialer hits VM it knows legit number and goes into a must call list.

glacial knot
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people use voice mail? o.0

umbral cliff
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I have a use for it if I don't answer my phone

glacial knot
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worse version of voice messages in IMs

clear ferry
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I haven't had a seller call me in 18 years, i haven't had a scam call ever

umbral cliff
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I get legitimate calls

umbral cliff
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Voicemails here can just use voice to text and SMS them to you

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So I can ignore easily

tidal bronze
glacial knot
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I never had any enabled ever. So no idea which features they have these days

clear ferry
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So that is why they call Sonoma, he is scammable?

umbral cliff
forest edge
clear ferry
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Nice

tidal bronze
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It's actually sad what they do to people mostlythe elderly. Horror stories.

umbral cliff
clear ferry
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I get maybe 2 phone calls a month, so that would probably up my average

forest edge
glacial knot
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2 a month? You must be famous

forest edge
umbral cliff
clear ferry
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Yeah, it is usually my mother and then some service I've booked confirming the date @glacial knot

forest edge
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the text ones scare me the most

umbral cliff
glacial knot
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yea, i live close enough to my parents to just walk over when I feel like talking to them

forest edge
#

where all it takes is a single reply

#

thats fucked up

clear ferry
glacial knot
#

yea. Services usually write. Only one I ever had calling was when I forgot the name on the food order D:

clear ferry
#

Think the last landline call i made was somewhere around 2006

forest edge
#

I question your memory, honestly

umbral cliff
umbral cliff
clear ferry
#

Yikes

umbral cliff
#

Even though here they're basically VOIP

clear ferry
#

I haven't even seen a landline phone outside of dark sites since 2013 probably

umbral cliff
#

I prefer them

#

But that's me

tidal bronze
#

Somethings are much easier over voice.

clear ferry
#

Sure they all use mobile phones

#

Or internet calling

umbral cliff
#

Oh true if you include business then yesterday when I had to ring and reset my password since they never sent the second half like they should've

forest edge
#

aka landline of today..

umbral cliff
clear ferry
#

Teams, zoom or other

forest edge
#

although we have the option of either

clear ferry
#

VoIP is mostly dead

glacial knot
#

Teams 🤢

forest edge
#

I like the idea of old line better than voip personally

umbral cliff
clear ferry
#

I can call mobile phones from my teams client

umbral cliff
#

Better than Skype for business

forest edge
#

having something that works even if there was no power or anything is comfortaing

glacial knot
#

Teams working? I've barely encountered that

tidal bronze
#

Teams is half baked

umbral cliff
#

Mine has only once failed me

clear ferry
#

I've been using teams since it was beta, never had issues

umbral cliff
#

That once was a international outage

glacial knot
#

Even google hangouts is better than teams 😂

umbral cliff
#

Skype for business is crap. But also running software that's 2-4 years old is also eh

forest edge
#

the rarity of outages isn't the point

#

it's the point one could take it down

umbral cliff
clear ferry
#

Skype for Business has been in retirement for years, servers were shut off this summer afaik

glacial knot
#

Teams client hasn't seen an update in over a year either

umbral cliff
clear ferry
#

I get updates all the time @glacial knot

glacial knot
#

not really shut down. They are the Teams infrastructure D:

clear ferry
umbral cliff
forest edge
#

buisness without a tradtional phone is scary

clear ferry
#

It's the norm

#

Been here for a decade

forest edge
#

no phones at all? just geeks with headsets?

clear ferry
#

And mobile phones yes

glacial knot
#

why would I care about some windows client o.0

forest edge
#

yea thats messed up

glacial knot
#

I need to check the software archive we have, when the update before that was.

umbral cliff
#

Call me old fashioned but I like a landline. I'll still use a mobile, but whilst getting a Landline number is still free I'll use it

tidal bronze
clear ferry
#

I have a landline number, associated with my teams account

umbral cliff
glacial knot
#

But hey, maybe the Teams2 rewrite will help (it won't)

clear ferry
forest edge
#

need to order a pizza, someone grab my laptop.. oh shit gotta call the doctor.. honey where's my razer headset?

tidal bronze
#

So you text your dealer for pickup?

clear ferry
#

If they offer it yes

tidal bronze
#

Lmao. Come on dude.

glacial knot
clear ferry
#

Or just call from my mobile?

#

Why would I need a landline,

glacial knot
#

also, they want to drop electron.

finite atlas
clear ferry
forest edge
#

china release virus that locks norway out from rest of the world and each other

glacial knot
clear ferry
#

You mean the US wiretapping their allies in Europe @forest edge

forest edge
glacial knot
#

from what I understand they'll use part of what they did for Edge as platform then. But I never tried to really find out more

finite atlas
glacial knot
#

I don't pay for the lenders, and don't need rental in Germany /shrug

tidal bronze
# clear ferry Why would I need a landline,

I think you are somewhat misinformed. When most say landline they are actually voip in most countries. So if it's a business it's a desk phone over voip and end user mostly mobile. So it's not a big deal like you think it is. Just perception. Our backends been switching out just most people don't know about it.

clear ferry
forest edge
#

at&t still offer the old fashioned landline

#

can even charge your cell phone off it lol

clear ferry
tidal bronze
#

Whatever you use is tech from here. Just that your country is tiny so swapping out is easier.

forest edge
#

bet they use qr codes instead of buisness phone numbers on the front of shops too

clear ferry
#

We do use QR codes to order food or pay for gas yes

tidal bronze
#

Old news

forest edge
#

i mean for everything

clear ferry
#

Mostly yes

glacial knot
#

QR code menus suck

clear ferry
#

Still not implemented in Missouri I see

forest edge
#

going into labor.. here scan this qr code to reach a nurse..

clear ferry
glacial knot
#

don't you have some Nokia as well?

forest edge
#

that just sounds like a major disaster waiting to happen

tidal bronze
clear ferry
#

That's very old i think @glacial knot

glacial knot
#

yea, sadly they've not been the best recently

clear ferry
tidal bronze
#

I think atx does not understand scale.

glacial knot
clear ferry
#

No, thankfully we don't need to scale to the immense stupidity of the USA yuckdoge

tidal bronze
#

Lol now it's stupid.

#

You make your living with stupid tech of the USA

forest edge
clear ferry
#

It generally is when you bring up the same argument about scale every time yes

#

If we are using your tech, just implement your tech

tidal bronze
#

Scale

glacial knot
#

A good bit of that tech is China and Taiwan these days either way

clear ferry
#

Most of it is thankfully

tidal bronze
#

Don't confuse manufacturing and tech

glacial knot
#

I don't. We work with the OEMs and ODMs. It's by far not only manufacturing that's in China

forest edge
#

only cell phones and gaming headsets for long distance communication will never be a thing for us

clear ferry
#

But scale ... @glacial knot

forest edge
#

it may seem like it now, but behind the scenes everyone picks up a phone off a cradle at some point

glacial knot
#

I have no interest in knowing your weight atx

clear ferry
summer notch
#

hi, isn't the new beta supposed to coming out today?
I can't find the discord channel

glacial knot
#

also, the silicon is likely from Israel for Intel as well

forest edge
#

masta beta

tidal bronze
#

Manufacturing vs tech

umbral cliff
# glacial knot QR code menus suck

Agreed. I do like the convenience & that so many places have digital menus to look at before I go, and I like to check what I ordered when it arrives lmao, but paper menus were nicer

#

Digital ordering though is easy when it supports google/ apple pay

clear ferry
#

Old man @umbral cliff

forest edge
#

menus on phone is crap

clear ferry
#

You'll fit in in the US fine yuckdoge

umbral cliff
#

Tap what you want, click pay, job done

glacial knot
#

ah, they haven't done digital orders here mostly. But only digital menus. Which just sucks

umbral cliff
#

Digital orders are nearly as common as digital menus here

glacial knot
#

digital ordering is ok. But only done as some novelty here

forest edge
#

sure it works fine for places that only offer two choices.. cooked fish or raw fish but everyone else it sucks

tidal bronze
#

You will never see QR menus at a good sit down place. Takes away the experience

clear ferry
#

We do both mostly, scanning the code also gets your table number, so you just order and pay in one go, food delivered

forest edge
#

maybe not as a mian means

clever mortar
#

hi isn t the new beta supposed to coming

umbral cliff
forest edge
#

but they do have those pamplets at the table with them

clear ferry
#

Even the upscale restaurants here do qr code now, very nice

tidal bronze
clear ferry
#

Oh yes, American exceptionalism

umbral cliff
clear ferry
#

Like that you specify down @umbral cliff

forest edge
#

it's norway.. how would they justify the rental cost of the size of building required to sit 5 people who don't want to look at one another?

glacial knot
clear ferry
clear ferry
#

Doesn't count @glacial knot scale....

glacial knot
#

Yeeeees? What are you trying to say now?

clear ferry
#

Just one of the largest chip designer in the world, doesn't scale

forest edge
#

his point it's still us

#

just because a building/process resides in another country..

tidal bronze
#

But we are stupid 🤣

#

Ok then

clear ferry
#

Mostly yes

forest edge
#

I will say once they started making harley's in china I did kind of started viewing them as not american lol

clear ferry
forest edge
#

that pissed off so many people around here

clear ferry
#

27th place

#

Smh

tidal bronze
clear ferry
#

Damn Germans, 15

glacial knot
#

I love that the table has average Daily temperature as well

clear ferry
#

It's important

#

For science

glacial knot
forest edge
#

it's in commy units tho..

umbral cliff
clear ferry
#

You are right, Germany should be #3 after annexing Berlin to Denmark

tidal bronze
#

I still think, not too bad for 27th place

glacial knot
forest edge
#

anymore i don't trust graphs, like the news.. some biased asshat put it together

clear ferry
#

But you trust "the Berlin Spectator" it seems

#

That noone else has heard about

umbral cliff
#

It's the ol trust what agrees with me

forest edge
#

I mean i don't wanna be the only one not posting bullshit

#

like you and spam, i don't want to feel excluded

tidal bronze
#

Oh boy this is hilarious

glacial knot
# tidal bronze I still think, not too bad for 27th place

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita actually smaller than Norway by the interesting measure 😂

The figures presented here do not take into account differences in the cost of living in different countries, and the results vary greatly from one year to another based on fluctuations in the exchange rates of the country's currency. Such fluctuations change a country's ranking from one year to the next, even though they often make little or no...

tidal bronze
#

GDP by capita can't call shots

clear ferry
#

That sounds like workers are underpaid !

#

Can't have that

forest edge
#

like that distorted gdp section

glacial knot
clear ferry
#

True, but it will influence it probably

tidal bronze
#

Roborock anniversary sale 😀

forest edge
tidal bronze
#

Lol.

umbral cliff
clear ferry
#

I saw it in the newspaper

umbral cliff
#

Surprised it wasn't you

glacial knot
#

pfft, the bikes are fast due to low weight

umbral cliff
#

Ah so ATX can only go 120 then

#

Weight penalty

tidal bronze
clear ferry
#

I'm smart enough to not buy a bike

#

I like my limbs intact

glacial knot
#

weirdo

scenic mortar
#

im not old enough to drive a car but can legally drive any kind of bike 😂

#

i guess they dont want me to drive safely

clear ferry
#

I never bothered doing any kind of motorbike or moped certificate here, we can do it from 16, but since that is only 2 years until you can do a regular car license I just waited

#

buses were plenty

prisma briar
#

I could have gotten my car learners permit when I was 15/license when I was 16

#

I waited until I had a car though, which didn't happen until I was 18.

#

Looks like Motorcycle licenses are the same age here.

clear ferry
#

yeah we have MC at 16, car at 18, transport truck 21

#

beer at 18, spirits at 21

prisma briar
#

Transport trucks here require a commercial license, those come in various levels depending on the size/type of vehicle but you can get them all at 18.

#

Alcohol is 21 here, same as weed.

#

Though if you get a medical exemption you can get weed at 18

clear ferry
#

oooof when you don't understand why domain lookup is making a deployment fail

#

then you see you have two entries

#
> vra.vcflab.local
Server:        192.168.1.1
Address:    192.168.1.1#53

Name:    vra.vcflab.local
Address: 192.168.250.92
Name:    vra.vcflab.local
Address: 192.168.250.193
#

DOH

prisma briar
clear ferry
#

I actually don't take that reference 😄

prisma briar
#

Round Robin

#

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round-robin_DNS

Basically what it's called when you have multiple A records for one entry.

Round-robin DNS is a technique of load distribution, load balancing, or fault-tolerance provisioning multiple, redundant Internet Protocol service hosts, e.g., Web server, FTP servers, by managing the Domain Name System's (DNS) responses to address requests from client computers according to an appropriate statistical model.In its simplest impl...

clear ferry
#

hah

#

I've never seen a round robin visually represented before

#

I didn't even consider it in relation to the bird

#

but I love it

#

Finally it moved on when I removed the duplicate entry

#

Running for 292h 37m

clear ferry
#

This is exactly my feeling towards asmr

bitter pecan
#

Mmmmm this is exciting.

Just found out my goswift 4k camera has been making continuous calls to the Russian federation since this whole shit show started.

#

I'm doing my part in being part of a bot net targeting russia.

Are you?

clear ferry
clear ferry
#

I actually do since I had a deaf kid in my class for 3 years

forest edge
#

Let's be real tho, there is really only one language worth ever learning and it isn't norwegian..

clear ferry
#

It doesn't have much value outside of Norway no, but mandarin does have more value than English soon probably

forest edge
glacial knot
#

Mandarin is an annoying language though

clear ferry
#

I hate tonal languages

glacial knot
#

I really dislike the way it sounds. And it's comparatively hard to learn for Europeans

#

Jup. tonal just makes things harder

clear ferry
#

Don't tell Sonoma,he will think it is a country

forest edge
clear ferry
#

General knowledge sure does seem unimportant to some

forest edge
#

general to some, useless to others

clear ferry
#

Ah, i see you found the textbook description of ignorance yuckdoge

forest edge
#

it's only ignorance to those who want to matter but in reality really don't

last cedar
forest edge
umbral cliff
glacial knot
#

can't even dig a hole

forest edge
#

old saying is an american thing lol

#

got tons of them

glacial knot
clear ferry
#

The new world

clear ferry
#

Yikes

#

"it's expected that Nvidia will recover from this 10% loss of their all year sales"

#

Probably by jacking up prices for consumers yes

glacial knot
#

yea, I've seen that earlier. I wonder if that's part of a larger push to classify more computers dual use, or another political play

clear ferry
#

I'm gonna say the latter

forest edge
glacial knot
#

Germany as a country isn't old either 😂

#

we just have a lot more still relevant history and old culture here

forest edge
#

so India sayings is all that counts? i'm confused what you are getting at

glacial knot
#

Why get a 3rd continent involved?

forest edge
#

your the one dictating what's old and i'm just trying to figure out this limit

glacial knot
#

🤷‍♂️

forest edge
#

so another comment made out yer butt. gotcha

clear ferry
#

Kingdom of Norway has entered the chat

#

832

glacial knot
#

1871 😂 or we could cheat with HRE, then it's 600 some iirc

clear ferry
#

Rammstein sung it best i guess, Deutchland, so jung und doch so alt

glacial knot
#

I think we got roughly 100 years of something that resembles current Germany now? Split over 3 or 4 entities, depending on how people count

#

also, my neighbours smoke detector got an empty battery. It's rather annoying

clear ferry
#

Just start a fire, it will sort itself out

glacial knot
#

It'd be a bit obvious if I first carry my PC in my car and park that elsewhere

clear ferry
#

Great opportunity to get a new one on insurance

forest edge
#

we have no shortage of our older throw away we send your way so you upgrading shouldn't be an issue

finite atlas
glacial knot
#

nah. Honestly, the first time it's worth calling it Germany is Kaiserreich. And that's 1871 plus or minus some

#

HRE is cheating. And not a Nation in any sense

forest edge
#

by about 100 years or so

finite atlas
forest edge
#

oh?

finite atlas
#

not unusual for a burger land inhabitant

forest edge
#

quite the hole your digging right now lol

finite atlas
#

i somehow have to reach you in yours

glacial knot
#

sounds like a mistake

finite atlas
#

i'm sorry, you are right

umbral cliff
glacial knot
#

well, BRD was founded 1949 soo D: And we had at least 40 years of not existing as one country in between

finite atlas
#

and hundreds of years of german history in before, going as far back as the year 1100

forest edge
#

they should went all in with making AU a giant penal colony

finite atlas
#

i'd love to pat kangaroos jumpycats

forest edge
#

your just lucky someone was there to hold back britian or you would be sipping tea and eating biscuits

glacial knot
#

you know, they'll drown you

dusky plank
#

germany was never a thing

glacial knot
#

I got 🫖 here already 🤷

dusky plank
#

austria hungary was

glacial knot
#

I see, someone would have preferred the Greater German solution

clear ferry
#

Did someone say the Scandi-greek Empire should have existed

#

I do love alternative history

forest edge
#

where norwegian didn't become pansies and remained respectable like thier forfathers?

finite atlas
#

i respect the nordic countries much much, then the rest of europe

clear ferry
#

You mean the crossdressing omnisexual Norse gods? We are still like that

#

Quite accepting

forest edge
#

not from what I have seen

#

you may dress up, but furries is not a respectable thing

#

you guys flat out took a 180 quite literally lol

finite atlas
#

let people do what ever they like in their bedroom

clear ferry
#

I won't let anyone ear crackers in the bedroom, that is disgusting, sleeping in crumbs

finite atlas
#

i agree, but if that is their wish, so it shall be

#

just dont drag it out into public

clear ferry
#

Oh, reminds me, Norse gods also do bestiality

#

Loki sleeps with quite a few animals

forest edge
#

yes we are aware you guys take it every way possible

finite atlas
#

let them have their, and their animals fun

dusky plank
#

leave the people alone sonoma

forest edge
#

considering the roman's weren't much different in that regard I understand the defensive nature

finite atlas
#

dont forget, thats where your origins come from aswell

forest edge
finite atlas
#

so where do you originate from?

forest edge
#

england

#

neither nordia or roman

finite atlas
#

oh right, i forgot the inselaffen inbreed a lot

forest edge
#

I mean.. we could look into barbian history and look for inbreeding lol

finite atlas
forest edge
#

must suck to be wrong a lot lol

finite atlas
#

ikr

#

its hard being you

forest edge
#

I love seeing the bitterness

finite atlas
#

yes!

glacial knot
#

how accurate can we date that gif based on the youtube and browser design in the background?

finite atlas
#

take your guess ongy

forest edge
#

youtube ui looks different in different countries

clear ferry
#

I'm gonna guess 2007-8

finite atlas
#

agreed

dusky plank
#

u kidding

#

the left nav bar in youtube came in 2010 or so

clear ferry
#

elizaveta podkorytova

finite atlas
#

stalker

clear ferry
#

Very good at googling

#

I just started with nodding girl gif and went from there

#

3 minute job on my phone, such fast wow

dusky plank
#

or, you know, just put the gif in yandex

forest edge
#

opnsense dev's are active on reddit my ass

finite atlas
#

you need some butt wipes?

forest edge
#

tempted to dual boot into a copy of pfsense

#

just out of curiosity

finite atlas
#

the video is from 2018

clear ferry
#

Yikes

low harness
#

Sigh. I went on a business trip and the first day there was a power outage back home.

#

No worries. Everything starts up automatically.

#

Except I can't access my desktop via ssh. Everything else on the network responds.

#

When I get home it turns out that's because my computer is trying to boot off my keyboard...

clear ferry
#

KEYBOARD NOT FOUND
PRESS F1 TO CONTINUE

finite atlas
#

yes

glacial knot
clear ferry
#

That's why I have OOBM on any device i might care to reach remote, and have two

scenic mortar
#

im not sure how i can make my pc boot automatically, dont you need to press the power button?

#

unless youre doing WakeOnLAN

static schooner
#

Usually in the bios

scenic mortar
#

huh, i didnt know of that

clear ferry
#

Based on previous state after power loss ? In the BIOS usually, WoL? depends on NIC

scenic mortar
#

my WoL is weird, it doesnt work on a cold start(like, power's off, i turn the plug on, it doesnt work immediately. shut down once and then it works)

clear ferry
#

Sounds like a FW issue

scenic mortar
#

yeah

static schooner
#

WoL doesn't always mean 'wake from off', either

last cedar
#

@forest edge

#

A new version for you to try, that will still not like your PP

last cedar
glacial knot
#

it's even better when devices do WoL from off, but not S3 o.0

clear ferry
#

Or enterprise since 2005->

clear ferry
prisma briar
#

Or throw an esp in it to control the power button on the mobo

static schooner
# clear ferry Or enterprise since 2005->

Even knowing the reaction ahead of time, I'll say that Macs fall in this category. "Wake" doesn't mean "turn on", but instead "wake from sleep". They can also be set to automatically turn on when power is restored, so there's that.

dusky plank
#

annoying _sleep-proxy._udp.enters the chat

static schooner
static schooner
#

In the end, if I turn on "power on when power is available" and "sleep when inactive", it's basically the same thing

last cedar
#

@forest edge we are keeping the kitten, she has a bad paw but otherwise healthy

#

Just been watching fish videos with her

#

No chip and no one in local area has replied to the advert we put out

clear ferry
#

Gotta say, I'm loving the DT990s very much

#

Such comfort wow

#

Also, the sound stage in those are very good for the price

forest edge
static schooner
#

that is adorable, if I do say so myself

forest edge
#

all fun and games till you need a pair of new fur lined boots

umbral cliff
#

Did you see there's a horror Winnie the Pooh film coming out

clear ferry
#

Yes

#

I love it

forest edge
forest edge
#

freebsd makes me want to insult norwegians.. need a break

clear ferry
#

Kids these days

last cedar
clear ferry
#

How have I not heard of this until today, Jackson Mississippi has been running low on water since June and now 180k people don't have running water

#

That's pretty massive scale

glacial knot
tidal bronze
#

Can't be helped 🤣

#

Mensa having trouble scaling. Shit gets funnier by the day. Tiny countries should stay out of these soups.

clever mortar
#

I wonder if that's the Canadian polite way of saying you're too stupid for us to measure

restive vapor
#

Should I make a key switch into homeassistant

clever mortar
fathom shell
#

Well,time for a smarthome meet-up, which obviously has home assistant 🙂

molten osprey
#

New Raspberry Pi 4’s are selling here for $300 (4GB) …. madness.

glacial knot
#

why would anyone buy it at that pricepoint?

molten osprey
#

I know. I have no idea.

#

I have 3 I’m not using.

#

Might take a few photos and list them, see what happens!

clear ferry
#

Lål

#

Expensive kids toys

restive vapor
dusky plank
#

It‘s like a sink. With speakers and Haribos.

#

Everybody knows key switches

tidal bronze
#

Oldest pal deserves a 2nd chance

last cedar
#

NICE

tidal bronze
#

My favorite is the band saw

#

$39 later, roborock for the garage. Glad I didn't throw it in the trash.

dusky plank
#

S4?

tidal bronze
#

S5

uncut mulch
#

Is Franck in this discord by any chance
his website is down

clever mortar
#

He's on holiday, so it's unlikely he'll care right now

young sigil
# tidal bronze S5

There's a filter under the blower (sucker) motor intake that gets clogged easily.

tidal bronze
#

It was Err 13 issue. I did upgrade all the bots to s7 and this was lying around. Ordered the MB and it was a good call. Now 4 bots. 😀

static schooner
#

I wonder how multiple bots would handle vacuuming the same room at the same time

tidal bronze
#

Lol

forest edge
tidal bronze
#

Here we go. Desert is 60 miles north

forest edge
#

but you wouldn't know it by the sand in your place huh

forest edge
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like chicken salad on bread https://youtu.be/43M7U5ukQOM

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some of that they added to the chicken would make me upchuck

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Never knew you into BTS

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Speaking of the water crisis in Mississippi

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Jeebus

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Typical norwegian mountain spring water

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hope you all atleast boil that shit before drinking it

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Think you misread. Put your glasses on and Norway becomes Mississippi 😂

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water crisis and shoving a hose up a whales ass and bathing with what flows out is two entirely different things.

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maybe in AU that picture means water crisis but here it means shortage

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We don't understand the scale @umbral cliff

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Since we are a single country called EU

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you wish

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lol

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Shouldn't be happening in a developed nation

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