#creator-connection | Home Assistant | Page 5

tepid vapor Feb 8, 2019, 4:13 PM

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I work for a SaaS company, and was just chatting with my manager about this as he's looking at the Nest. As he's just after pointing out, our contract with customers has a clause that puts the software into Escrow. If we disappear in tge morn, they can theoretically deploy a local copy.

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And I do mean theoretically, there's a LOT of moving parts using every platform you can imagine!

flat ivy Feb 8, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Lol @sick mango I’m going from crying to laughing

zealous trail Feb 9, 2019, 8:28 AM

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Death to the cloud service, long live the cloud service (after massive public backlash)

long herald Feb 11, 2019, 7:28 AM

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Since this channel was why we got together at all, a link to Drzzs stream where I joined to talk about Lovelace yesterday: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/378495903##

idle swallow Feb 15, 2019, 12:09 AM

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based on the trend in the latest podcast I got the idea of starting this - still just almost random data but could be fun https://www.screencast.com/t/EMFwAAp3iva

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@tepid vapor I guess if something is at the low line its the cloud api graveyard 😃

tepid vapor Feb 15, 2019, 11:28 AM

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@idle swallow All those "Magic Quadrants" are just random data from what I've seen, especially the Gartner ones 😃

idle swallow Feb 15, 2019, 11:29 AM

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@tepid vapor of course - but they are useful to convey a message/overview 😃

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@tepid vapor like for example which kind of product line shuold I invest in if I'm interested in local first, cloud when useful home automation 😃

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i'm trying to figure out how to get the classifications of the products in HA component page and used that as a first "grouping" and see where it takes it 😉

tepid vapor Feb 15, 2019, 11:39 AM

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If the same data could be used for filtering on the component page it would be interesting.

idle swallow Feb 15, 2019, 12:07 PM

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@tepid vapor yeah it could

queen mirage Feb 17, 2019, 11:22 AM

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@idle swallow I like it, would love to see a monthly updated one

idle swallow Feb 17, 2019, 11:25 AM

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@atxbye it's all just html, CSS and a JSON for the data so can be fairly easy maintained once figure out how to rank things best.

queen mirage Feb 17, 2019, 11:26 AM

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@idle swallow should probably have a consensus of multiple people, to not be totally personally biased

idle swallow Feb 17, 2019, 11:30 AM

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Yeah that too 😃

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Here is a crazy idea - make a Google spreadsheet with simple ranking questions. Have a tab for each person who want to participate the use recent new Google Doc rest API to extract the score individually and cumulative and have it reflect in this quadrant.

queen mirage Feb 17, 2019, 11:34 AM

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I approve, and should also have a na field perhaps that won't skew the result if the participant is not intimate with the product

idle swallow Feb 17, 2019, 2:24 PM

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arh dang - forgot to mention the quadrant on the podcast just recorded - for next time 😃

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@blazing prawn @flat ivy https://community.home-assistant.io/t/easily-position-elements-in-picture-element-cards/99230 is the link/video on how to postition things easily on picture elements cards

blazing prawn Feb 17, 2019, 2:28 PM

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Awesome thanks @idle swallow

idle swallow Feb 17, 2019, 8:46 PM

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@blazing prawn so tried logitechs new update around xmpp and you actually have to agree to void the warranty / don't blame logitech for your xmpp usage so my comments on podcast was only a halftruth

blazing prawn Feb 17, 2019, 9:28 PM

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@idle swallow omg seriously? That's crap

idle swallow Feb 17, 2019, 10:46 PM

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@blazing prawn couldn't find a way to share photos here on phone so here is a icloud public album with screenshots from what you agree to.

idle swallow Feb 17, 2019, 11:22 PM

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whoops forgot the link https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0L59UlCqluAs9 @blazing prawn

blazing prawn Feb 17, 2019, 11:55 PM

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@idle swallow wow so really they haven't bothered to fix it, unless it is beyond fixable of course. I am not sure what a real solution would look like though. The XMPP library is used by a lot of third-parties, so they can't just introduce a whole new API which doesn't work.

idle swallow Feb 17, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Yeah I'm not sure exactly. What they wrote about made it sound like there was a certain so call that had was accessible by a very weak and fixed username/password. Which if true is bad but also weird why they can't fix it. Would be nice if they would report the cve number for the security issue so one could help it better

blazing prawn Feb 17, 2019, 11:58 PM

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yeah indeed

idle swallow Feb 17, 2019, 11:58 PM

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oh this was easy: https://www.tenable.com/security/research/tra-2018-47

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first hit on google 😉

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yeah so they even have the lua code in that CVE - that seems like that should be trivially to fix even if the guy at logitech maintaining their stuff left.

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the bypass auth issue might be more tricky

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so yeah - protect your logitech remotes from the wide internet - thats best 😉

blazing prawn Feb 18, 2019, 12:02 AM

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Yeah as long as the harmony isn't exposing itself to the internet via UPNP or something, it should be ok

flat ivy Feb 18, 2019, 12:21 AM

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Yep; just get some sort of IPS and SNORT should have put out a signature update for it - I’ll see when I get home

flat ivy Feb 18, 2019, 12:43 AM

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Hmm ant find a SNORT rule for it :/ interesting

blazing prawn Feb 18, 2019, 12:44 AM

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Too recent?

flat ivy Feb 18, 2019, 12:51 AM

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Nah probably too low impact lol

forest cosmos Feb 18, 2019, 9:00 PM

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Trouble with writing a rule for a vulnerability, is that it can show up in many different ways. Writing a rule for a particular exploit is easier.

flat ivy Feb 18, 2019, 10:08 PM

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Yeah agreed

idle swallow Feb 20, 2019, 10:54 PM

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anyone listening to the podcast about hass-cli be aware I just relased 0.6 where I had to rename hass-cli entity to hass-cli state so there now is access to both state and eentity registry commands.

torpid mortar Feb 21, 2019, 4:32 PM

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@blazing prawn @flat ivy @idle swallow Outstanding episode, guys! Very well done.

idle swallow Feb 21, 2019, 4:35 PM

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😋

flat ivy Feb 21, 2019, 4:56 PM

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Thanks @torpid mortar!!

sour pebble Feb 21, 2019, 5:23 PM

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Great podcast today guys! @flat ivy @blazing prawn @idle swallow

flat ivy Feb 21, 2019, 5:23 PM

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Thanks @sour pebble

tepid vapor Feb 22, 2019, 3:44 PM

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Looking at the hass-cli, and already liking it. With a small bit of work it could be the basis of a really nice client library for Home Assistant which could lead to creating nice things like managing with Ansible 😉

flat ivy Feb 23, 2019, 12:23 AM

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^^^ yea!!

idle swallow Feb 23, 2019, 9:40 AM

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@tepid vapor sounds interesting. What kind of small bit of work were you thinking?

idle swallow Feb 23, 2019, 10:34 AM

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And yes made it so I could be lazy and have it be used for automation in weird places I hadn't thought of. I'm about to start traveling so just put in issues and PRs welcome!

tepid vapor Feb 24, 2019, 2:57 PM

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@idle swallow Sorry, out and about for the last few days. Thinking along the lines of more separation between the cli/click elements and what talks to the Home Assistant API.

zealous trail Feb 25, 2019, 8:55 AM

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great podcast again guys learn something every show

zealous trail Feb 26, 2019, 8:12 AM

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@idle swallow after listening to you talk about the cli would it be possible to use it to compare current version of hassio addon vs latest version? I know you can use hassio cli to see this infomation but can't do anything with it in current limitations.

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would be great to get notification when addon updates are available

idle swallow Feb 27, 2019, 8:11 AM

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@zealous trail if there is an API call for it then yes. I know there is a update command so should also be some to check the versions.

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@tepid vapor if you mean like an remote API kinda thing ? Yeah could be done but might be quite tedious to maintain. I assume there was a reason core stopped maintaining their remote.py 😃

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@tepid vapor for ansible would the cli suffice as a way to talk to HA ? That "API" is simpler to maintain than the "raw" api

tepid vapor Feb 27, 2019, 8:16 AM

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From experience, error handling on shell scripts in Ansible is a royal pain compared to having a library which will generate proper exceptions.

idle swallow Feb 27, 2019, 8:47 AM

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Well you can call the click library and get exceptions that way if you prefer 😃

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And if helps can add specific exit codes too.

tepid vapor Feb 27, 2019, 10:20 AM

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Preferred browser currently borked in 0.88.1 so will be hitting the cli hard. Will see what's missing and PR where possible!

idle swallow Feb 27, 2019, 4:59 PM

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👍

wild cypress Mar 6, 2019, 6:26 AM

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Doop doop soon soon!

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@lavish sage watch this space :)

bitter anchor Mar 6, 2019, 9:07 PM

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podcast out before the release?

crude pagoda Mar 6, 2019, 9:15 PM

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I was wondering the same thing

blazing prawn Mar 6, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Apparently so!

lapis inlet Mar 6, 2019, 10:40 PM

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Thanks for the shout out guys!

blazing prawn Mar 6, 2019, 10:43 PM

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You're most welcome!

crude pagoda Mar 6, 2019, 11:08 PM

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Excellent guest this week! The talk about the PS4 component has me very intrigued and refreshing the Home Assistant home page every few minutes. 😃

wild cypress Mar 7, 2019, 12:54 AM

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I feel like we need a ps4 (or media_player?) channel here 😃

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@crude pagoda join the Beta dark side!

crude pagoda Mar 7, 2019, 12:57 AM

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I think my wife would kill me if I started pushing betas to our HA environment. I break things enough as it is. I don't need any more help! 😃

solar ingot Mar 7, 2019, 1:02 AM

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lol this is why you setup a dev instance to test things out before moving to production 😛

tepid vapor Mar 7, 2019, 1:15 AM

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Nah! Testing in production is the only way!

wild cypress Mar 7, 2019, 1:31 AM

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"oh, yeah, that lightbulb is broken today, never mind" 😄

obtuse mesa Mar 7, 2019, 5:27 AM

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thanks for a fun podcast!

night knoll Mar 8, 2019, 5:26 PM

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I have to setup the PS4 component now.

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You guys kinda bashed on HomeKit this week, and I think I'm the only person really using it.

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Actually, I know I'm only one of like 6 people to own a HomePod.

obtuse mesa Mar 8, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Mr 💰bags

night knoll Mar 8, 2019, 6:56 PM

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It was more of a jab at how low their userbase is. They're definitely overpriced, though.

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But, the sound quality is incredible. I will give it that.

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It's really interesting hearing how everyone else is using Home Assistant. I've just got a weird setup, apparently.

obtuse mesa Mar 8, 2019, 7:55 PM

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HomeKit deserves a bashing; Apple was really the first out the gate for home automation stuff and shot themselves int he foot and are now playing catch-up. There are plenty of people using HomeKit integration though

signal shadow Mar 8, 2019, 10:25 PM

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HomeKit works really well for me but I’m of the strong opinion that you need a HomeKit “hub” to make it work reliably i.e. HomePod, ATV4. Just using phones won’t cut it in my experience

rose ivy Mar 8, 2019, 11:31 PM

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Getting an 4K Apple TV and using it as a HomeKit hub has worked really well in my experience

tough kindle Mar 8, 2019, 11:38 PM

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@night knoll lots of people using homekit

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I hear about it often as the iOS developer

obtuse mesa Mar 9, 2019, 1:44 AM

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https://imgur.com/JqYTmjn

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There are dozens of us! DOZENS! [Remake request by endymion321]

▶ Play video

night knoll Mar 9, 2019, 2:08 AM

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You absolutely need a hub.

wild cypress Mar 9, 2019, 2:41 AM

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@lavish sage is experimenting with home kit

long herald Mar 11, 2019, 10:18 AM

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Loved the latest episode! ❤

tepid vapor Mar 11, 2019, 11:11 AM

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No cloud service shutdown corner? Could have used Jibo even though there's no HA integration 😉

blazing prawn Mar 11, 2019, 10:11 PM

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@tepid vapor haha so I actually saw the Jibo shutdown the day after we recorded 😦

queen mirage Mar 14, 2019, 9:31 AM

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Thanks for the non binary away sensors Phil, I implemented it yesterday and I think I'm going to expand further on it 😘

blazing prawn Mar 14, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Nice one @queen mirage would be interested to see what you add to it!

queen mirage Mar 15, 2019, 1:24 PM

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@blazing prawn Was thinking about adding "Just arrived at work" "at work" "just left work" also and use those as triggers for other stuff perhaps, so I have one place to show and trigger stuff based on my location, but I'll have to play around and make sure it does what it should, perhaps also add a state of "driving home" based on how I am moving \ at what speed or even "stuck in queue" but I might be overenthustiastic about it 💃

blazing prawn Mar 15, 2019, 11:09 PM

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@queen mirage great ideas. I've thought about doing a driving one. Then having Home Assistant detect if I am driving and my wife is at home, use the Waze sensor and my device location to estimate my arrival time. Then have that for announcements like "Phil is 10 minutes away" etc.

forest cosmos Mar 15, 2019, 11:15 PM

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I'm using webhooks and Tasker for driving detection

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When the phone connects or disconnects it sends a webhook with the active profile, and it'll include whether it enters or exits the Car profile

steep field Mar 16, 2019, 2:14 AM

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I will be interviewing Phil and Rohan in 1.5 hours, anyone any questions they want me to ask them ?

obtuse mesa Mar 16, 2019, 2:32 AM

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🤣

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Ask them about an official podcast sensor/media_player. That would be cool. I’m sure people have ways to do it already, but a clean “official” one would be really slick

steep field Mar 16, 2019, 2:38 AM

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There must be some open source podcast playlist players? Then we just point them at their RSS feed and bam, you have a new card 😉

obtuse mesa Mar 16, 2019, 4:12 AM

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You're right...I might have to look into this now. This could be pretty cool

obtuse mesa Mar 16, 2019, 5:21 AM

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@steep field weekend goal https://github.com/custom-cards/podcast-card 😃

queen mirage Mar 16, 2019, 5:27 AM

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@blazing prawn yeah, the whole wife notification thing is my idea as an end product, as depending on traffic it takes me either 45 minutes from the office, or 4 hours 🤣 that way she can know when to start dinner etc

blazing prawn Mar 16, 2019, 5:42 AM

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@obtuse mesa that's awesome

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Now make it have the ability to cast to my Sonos automatically

woven hazel Mar 16, 2019, 8:24 PM

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@blazing prawn Finally got round to using your 'Making a dumb washing machine smart' idea on your blog. Works great. I used HA for the automation and Node Red for the notifications. Works like a charm - thanks for sharing (I know I am late to the party lol)

queen mirage Mar 16, 2019, 9:17 PM

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I need to do that too @woven hazel thanks for reminding me 😅

blazing prawn Mar 16, 2019, 10:18 PM

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Nice one @woven hazel !

lapis inlet Mar 20, 2019, 9:34 PM

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@blazing prawn

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📎 unknown.png

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Server throws a 500 error

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when trying to play

obtuse mesa Mar 20, 2019, 9:52 PM

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gPodder component is ready https://github.com/custom-components/gpodder
Will hopefully have a nice LL podcast card for 0.91 episode

blazing prawn Mar 20, 2019, 9:56 PM

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@lapis inlet got @flat ivy to the rescue!

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@obtuse mesa that is awesome!!

lapis inlet Mar 20, 2019, 9:56 PM

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👍 ❤

flat ivy Mar 20, 2019, 9:57 PM

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yep - all fixed up!

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very cool @obtuse mesa 😄

obtuse mesa Mar 20, 2019, 11:36 PM

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enjoyed the podcast! good stuff, as always, guys!

strong ridge Mar 21, 2019, 12:18 AM

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I know I have said this before but I am REALLY digging the new intro music. Can't comment on anything else since I just started listening lol

blazing prawn Mar 21, 2019, 12:29 AM

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@strong ridge thanks!! Gives the Podcast a bit more energy I think

strong ridge Mar 21, 2019, 12:30 AM

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definitely!

sick mango Mar 21, 2019, 12:31 AM

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Absolutely. And the fading while reading the credits in the end is one of those little details that make it sound way more polished.

blazing prawn Mar 21, 2019, 12:33 AM

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haha @sick mango glad you noticed 😃

strong ridge Mar 21, 2019, 2:18 AM

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I like the "brought to you by Nabu Casa" at the beginning. I expect it to change every time like y'all got a new advertiser. "brought to you Foster's. The popular Australian beer that no real Australian would be caught dead drinking" or in the case of Frenck's streams, "brought to you by Gange... smoke weed every day-yay"

blazing prawn Mar 21, 2019, 2:20 AM

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The popular Australian beer that no real Australian would be caught dead drinking

It pleases me that you know this is a fact. Please tell everyone you know

tough kindle Mar 21, 2019, 2:34 AM

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at least here in SF I think most people know that

obtuse mesa Mar 21, 2019, 4:09 AM

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It ain't sexy, but it works! Podcasts in HA 🎧 https://community.home-assistant.io/t/podcast-card-component-for-gpodder/106758

silk fog Mar 28, 2019, 4:33 AM

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Good podcast to keep up on whats new! Away from home and itching to update, looking at projects to do when back.
I stumbeled on the open source remote that could be an awsome adittion to control hass and get +WAF points 😊 maybe you can mention that on the podcast so more can join and get price down for parts: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/touchscreen-remote-for-ha/99161

blazing prawn Mar 28, 2019, 4:41 AM

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@silk fog wow that looks really cool!

queen mirage Mar 28, 2019, 5:48 AM

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I want it, like yesterday👀

granite river Mar 28, 2019, 10:24 AM

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@queen mirage I have 2 of those remotes 😉 Disclaimer: I'm the one working on that project.

queen mirage Mar 28, 2019, 10:25 AM

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@granite river🙇

granite river Mar 28, 2019, 10:26 AM

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Glad you like it! 😊

queen mirage Mar 28, 2019, 10:30 AM

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I think most people using ha would want atleast one 🤩

granite river Mar 28, 2019, 10:39 AM

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I have the version 2 prototype boards on the way, so I hope it will be available soon

tepid vapor Mar 28, 2019, 12:39 PM

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That's absolutely brilliant! Put me down on the waiting list 😉

obtuse mesa Mar 28, 2019, 1:20 PM

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@granite river those are really well done! Beautiful work! Get this guy in the podcast! 🎧😁

granite river Mar 28, 2019, 1:20 PM

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@obtuse mesa thanks! 😃

queen mirage Mar 28, 2019, 1:36 PM

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The WAF on this is massive

silk fog Mar 28, 2019, 1:58 PM

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True! We all want this to succeed, no pressure @granite river 😉

solar ingot Apr 4, 2019, 12:22 AM

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great podcast episode!

long herald Apr 4, 2019, 2:38 PM

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@carmine inlet I started listening to the podcast earlier today. I run an older NUC that doesn't have AVX, so I can't run Tensorflow locally. 😦 But then I heard that you said something about running on AWS? Would that be something I could do instead of running locally? Or - do you have any suggestions for a face/object recognition software that doesn't run on AVX? Seems like most I've come across do.

carmine inlet Apr 4, 2019, 2:39 PM

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This is what I mentioned on the podcast: https://github.com/robmarkcole/HASS-amazon-rekognition

long herald Apr 4, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Alright, lovely! Will take a look, thanks!

sly thicket Apr 4, 2019, 3:21 PM

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How do I know if I have AVX?

solar ingot Apr 4, 2019, 3:23 PM

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i didnt even know AVX is a requirement.....I thought I had an older PC....i am running tensorflow on a i5 2nd gen which is like over 10 years old now lol

sly thicket Apr 4, 2019, 3:24 PM

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It's listed under lscpu's flags for me

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It's on my list of to-dos

onyx oasis Apr 4, 2019, 4:18 PM

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Great episode this week! The camera improvements have really unlocked a lot of potential to automations I never really considered before.
@carmine inlet Do you happen to have you homeassistant config publicly available? I am cursious to see some of your tensor flow config. Great job on all your work!

long herald Apr 4, 2019, 4:54 PM

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@solar ingot Most if not all i5 has it. I have a celeron unfortunately. Had no idea before I tried it and googled my ass off when it didn't work.

solar ingot Apr 4, 2019, 4:59 PM

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its interesting how it could work on a pi but not your nuc.....you would think it would work.....that mustve driven you crazy!!

long herald Apr 4, 2019, 5:02 PM

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Yeah..

carmine inlet Apr 4, 2019, 5:12 PM

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It could work on her NUC, but it would need to be compiled from source. The x86_64 builds default with AVX enabled, Pi builds obviously do not.

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Basically, hard to do.

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@onyx oasis - I’ve been meaning to clean up my config and publish it, but haven’t had the opportunity yet. As mentioned on the podcast, it’s not all that exciting.

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I haven’t even implemented my own record service yet 😂

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@vale dock has his TF config published, and mine is relatively similar.

solar ingot Apr 4, 2019, 5:15 PM

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i have borrowed automations from @carmine inlet and @vale dock as well on the TF front

long herald Apr 4, 2019, 5:40 PM

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@carmine inlet Got it working ❤ Finally I can recognize if my cats trigger our cameras or if it's an intruder 😂

carmine inlet Apr 4, 2019, 5:41 PM

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Awesome! Amazon Rekognition is pretty cool, but a little limited with the free tier.

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Better option than having to buy a whole new system for HASS though.

long herald Apr 4, 2019, 5:43 PM

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For sure!

carmine inlet Apr 4, 2019, 5:43 PM

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@true bear does good work though!

long herald Apr 4, 2019, 5:43 PM

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It wasn't crazy expensive after free either, might be worth it.

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It's amazing to get a list of all things it detects too in attributes, not just the number of detected persons, or whatever you try to detect

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I got a monitor (tv), laptop, couch (!) and person in my image 😄

true bear Apr 4, 2019, 9:12 PM

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I think AWS had a refactor? If yes then time for a PR.!

amber hatch Apr 5, 2019, 12:59 PM

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@carmine inlet You mentioned in the podcast a third party firmware that can be flashed on Wyze Cam, what is the name of the firmware?

carmine inlet Apr 5, 2019, 1:12 PM

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https://github.com/EliasKotlyar/Xiaomi-Dafang-Hacks

obtuse mesa Apr 5, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Fun podcast, guys! Great guest pick as always as well, @carmine inlet 😃

forest hedge Apr 18, 2019, 8:57 AM

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Hello i try connect My Yi 720 camera to HASS

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but i have proplem

vast crest Apr 18, 2019, 8:57 AM

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#330944238910963714 is probably a better channel

river viper Apr 18, 2019, 10:31 AM

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Is it possible to get in contact with adam in the latest podcast?

muted topaz Apr 18, 2019, 7:37 PM

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On Episode 48 Adam was asking about a way to track his power usage by watching the LED flashes. I have seen something like this before. I believe the person may have taped a photo resistor over the LED. You could attach that to an ESP8266 and if you could block out enough light that you could reliably detect the flash, you could then log that in MQTT. Heck, you could probably use ESPHome to handle it without having to learn too much Arduino code. 😃

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Here is a list of a few projects I have come across after a some searching. I really like the simplicity of the second project because it is inexpensive and uses 3 parts (minus power). https://linkslist.app/VE9uB9V

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Adam, if you could power it from the shore power box as well that would make things easier. I haven't worked with solar power for a project before, but I suspect it would require a big enough battery to run the sensor overnight. You wouldn't want to miss out on some readings because your battery ran dry overnight.

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@modest saddle Are you Adam from Home Assistant Podcast episode 48?

blazing prawn Apr 18, 2019, 10:27 PM

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@river viper @muted topaz I don't think Adam is on discord, but I'll pass these on

blazing prawn Apr 18, 2019, 10:52 PM

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@river viper Adam isn't on discord anymore, but I've added his email address (with his permission) to the show notes on hasspodcast.io

muted topaz Apr 18, 2019, 11:19 PM

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@blazing prawn Thank you.

I struggled to figure out where to go to discuss it publicly. Is this the best place to discuss the show?

Or perhaps a post on the Home Assistant Community to go with each podcast would be nice (like they do with the official blog posts)?

blazing prawn Apr 18, 2019, 11:27 PM

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@muted topaz here is the purpose of the room, as most people are on the Discord. We also post to Reddit, and occasionally get discussions there too

sly thicket Apr 24, 2019, 6:00 PM

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@blazing prawn regarding a USB powered MQTT relay, the Sonoff SV can do that

queen mirage Apr 27, 2019, 9:29 AM

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after hearing the 0.91 podcast I need to look into tensorflow for my outdoor cameras

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damn you @blazing prawn and co 🤣

blazing prawn Apr 27, 2019, 9:30 AM

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haha! #notsorry

queen mirage Apr 27, 2019, 9:30 AM

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It sounds amazing, because my zoneminder currently triggers on a bee flying past, I would love it to actually just notify me when a person comes into the camera

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which sounded easyish to implement according to your guest :D

blazing prawn Apr 27, 2019, 9:32 AM

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yeah piece of cake...I hope it is

queen mirage Apr 27, 2019, 9:35 AM

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thank goodness I created a debian9 template when I moved my home assistant to venv, I knew I would have use for it, and now I've used that template to deploy 4 (tensorflow will be the 5th) vm from that template, ha and its cool friends are addictive ;-)

blazing prawn Apr 27, 2019, 9:38 AM

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ooh fancy!

queen mirage Apr 27, 2019, 10:59 AM

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Apprently tensorflow required avx, so I need to compile my own version it seems without avx 🤔 I need to replace my server at some point it seems

forest cosmos Apr 27, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Hmmm, you've made me realise that I could spin TensorFlow up on my new Proxmox system... now I need to catch up on the podcast...

queen mirage Apr 27, 2019, 7:59 PM

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@forest cosmos damn you and your avx!

queen mirage Apr 28, 2019, 11:25 AM

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so, tensorflow 1.5 supports non-avx cpus, but python 3.7 does not support tensorflow 1.5, good to know, I'm in a catch22 🤣

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atleast if I wanted to run tensorflow on the same system as I run HA, I could just run a seperate venv I guess for 2.7 🤔

tiny axle Apr 28, 2019, 12:32 PM

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Almost done with listening to podcast 48, should I listen to 47 aswell?

forest cosmos Apr 28, 2019, 12:33 PM

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It's worth listening to all of them IMO (I've fallen behind and need to catch up). There's lots of useful insights from people on what they do, and why, and what their experiences have been.

tiny axle Apr 28, 2019, 12:34 PM

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Mmmh, I have enough hours then haha

queen mirage Apr 28, 2019, 12:35 PM

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Aye, I try to stay on top of it, but I'm lagging behind one now, which isn't bad, I've listened to all since 32, the older ones might not be relevant anymore, although a lot of good ideas probably are

carmine inlet Apr 28, 2019, 2:13 PM

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@queen mirage - unfortunately TF has to be in the same venv as HA, since the HA component loads it up. You can try googling around for pre-built unofficial wheels for python 3.7 no AVX

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Building from source is a PITA

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If you find one, you can install it to your config/deps directory and it will load in before the one included in the container.

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Oh wait, you aren’t using docker... even better

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Install like normal.

queen mirage Apr 28, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Yeah I tried I found 3.7 no avx for Windows, but that didn't help, found a ton of pre built ones but not a single 3.7 no avx Linux 😂

queen mirage Apr 28, 2019, 6:01 PM

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@carmine inlet found just the one I needed ! https://github.com/yaroslavvb/tensorflow-community-wheels/issues/100

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but now I get this error when starting HA 🤔 No TensorFlow Object Detection library found! Install or compile for your system following instructions here: https://github.com/tensorflow/models/blob/master/research/object_detection/g3doc/installation.m dǜ I'm guessing it is referring to /home/homeassistant/.homeassistant/tensorflow/object_detection/ which the setup.py file created ? 🤔

carmine inlet Apr 28, 2019, 6:05 PM

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That error happens if either TF didn’t get installed correctly in your venv, or you are missing this folder: https://github.com/hunterjm/home-assistant-config/tree/master/tensorflow

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You can copy from my repo, that folder isn’t platform specific.

queen mirage Apr 28, 2019, 6:07 PM

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aye, I have that folder, it got created when I ran the setup script, and I moved the recommended frozen_infererence_graph.pb there too

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permissions seem correct

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I had no errors when I installed tensorflow from the above mentioned wheel either, any command I can run to verify that tensorflow is installed correctly withing the venv ?

carmine inlet Apr 28, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Did you have the venv activated when installing it?

queen mirage Apr 28, 2019, 6:10 PM

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yes

carmine inlet Apr 28, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Look in bin/python37/site_packages or whatever?

queen mirage Apr 28, 2019, 6:11 PM

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sudo -u homeassistant -H -s ---- source /srv/homeassistant/bin/activate ---- pip3 install https://github.com/evdcush/TensorFlow-wheels/releases/download/tf-1.13.1-py37-cpu-westmere/tensorflow-1.13.1-cp37-cp37m-linux_x86_64.whl are the three steps I did, then restart HA

carmine inlet Apr 28, 2019, 6:12 PM

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https://github.com/home-assistant/home-assistant/blob/dev/homeassistant/components/tensorflow/image_processing.py#L93

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The error gets thrown when it can’t import TensorFlow or the object detection Utils

queen mirage Apr 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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python3 -c 'import tensorflow as tf; print(tf.__version__)' tells me ImportError: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: version `CXXABI_1.3.11' not found (required by /srv/homeassistant_venv_3.7/lib/python3.7/site-packages/tensorflow/python/_pywrap_tensorflow_internal.so) atleast 🤔

carmine inlet Apr 28, 2019, 6:28 PM

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That sounds like a problem.

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I think there is a docker container out there somewhere that will build a version of TF specifically for your system’s capabilities.

queen mirage Apr 28, 2019, 6:29 PM

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yeah, the wheel I installed was made on ubuntu 18, which I hoped was close enough for debian9, guessing it was not

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Guess I'll have to nag my boss for a new server or move my HA to a newer CPU somewhere 🤔

swift lance May 2, 2019, 5:49 AM

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Hi, I like the sound of the presence detection that Pascal is using that was mentioned in the latest podcast. Please, can someone tell what it is. I checked the show notes and can't see it.

blazing prawn May 2, 2019, 6:21 AM

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Hey @swift lance @inner hamlet can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was this one

https://www.eq-3.com/products/homematic-ip/homematic-ip-presence-sensor-indoor.html

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Perhaps this is a better link https://www.amazon.co.uk/Homematic-IP-150587A0-Indoor-Presence/dp/B06XY1X6NN

swift lance May 2, 2019, 6:26 AM

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Thanks Phil, I will have a proper look when I get home, it's sounds like a better solution to what I have now

blazing prawn May 2, 2019, 6:27 AM

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Yeah same. It can apparently detect the slughtest movement, which is very promsing

inner hamlet May 2, 2019, 6:36 AM

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@blazing prawn yes, it is. With the USB stick and a add-on it is a local driven solution

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https://www.elv.ch/elv-homematic-ip-rf-usb-stick-hmip-rfusb-fuer-alternative-steuerungsplattformen-arr-bausatz.html

ELV Homematic IP ARR-Bausatz RF-USB-Stick für alternative Steueru...

Der HmIP-RFUSB bietet die Möglichkeit, das Homematic IP Kommunikationsprotokoll auf verschiedenen Hardwareplattformen über einen einfachen Standard-US

blazing prawn May 2, 2019, 6:39 AM

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Nice!

ivory fern May 3, 2019, 1:43 AM

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Does anybody know of an alternative presence sensors that work the same way? I'm in the states and I'm looking for something that's available here.

tropic obsidian May 3, 2019, 2:46 PM

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the last podcast was interessting.
Regarding presence sensors (occupancy, not motion), I cant find much stuff. Are there any other sensors than the homematic one, which would mean adding another system. Are there more?
Beacon seem to be a good additional system for identification, but not for the basic presence.
A combined device with presence sensor and beacon station would be perfect. But such thing does not exist?

tepid vapor May 3, 2019, 3:14 PM

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Seeing as everyone always has their phone nearby, I've been using just whether or not a phone appears on my Unifi setup as a presence detection. Works for me, but assumes phone is on etc.

forest cosmos May 3, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Presence detection serves some purposes. Activity detection others. People confuse those too often 😉

tropic obsidian May 3, 2019, 3:16 PM

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that only works for home/not home, but not in which room you are.
I can only do nmap which seems to drain more battery, as my router (opnsense) is not supported, and ble tracker is bugged on my hassio.

tepid vapor May 3, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Multiple APs, so can use the AP as a general indicator of where in the house the phone is.

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Not perfect, but good enough for my needs 😄

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Was listening to a Defcon talk recently where it was mentioned that the presenter, Deviant Ollam, had an RFID tag embedded in his wrist, mainly to freak out customers when doing physical penetration tests on buildings. Might be overkill, but it might work!

forest cosmos May 3, 2019, 3:40 PM

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@tropic obsidian I can highly recommend buying a Pi Zero or two and using https://github.com/andrewjfreyer/monitor instead of the built in Bluetooth tracker

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/monitor-reliable-multi-user-distributed-bluetooth-occupancy-presence-detection/68505 is a long read, but worth it

tropic obsidian May 3, 2019, 4:27 PM

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I know it, its still all bluetooth tho. A Pi Zero in every room with BT, presence and audio detection would be great, only for BT its too much work in my opinion for a not ideal solution.

forest cosmos May 3, 2019, 4:34 PM

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I only bother with opposite corners of the house. I don't find detecting the location of the phone terribly useful for detecting the location of the owner of it

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I use presence detection at a house level only

full pecan May 3, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Hi all. Just had a listen to Pascal on the podcast and was especially interested in his room presence detection. I am assuming its a microwave type unit but I had trouble understanding him and if he mentioned a particular unit

forest cosmos May 3, 2019, 10:17 PM

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@full pecan https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/330990142594613249/573385546873831430

south canopy May 4, 2019, 1:59 AM

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Thanks. Sorry I was in a lunch room with a limited screen. Should have realised I wouldnt be the only one looking for that

obtuse mesa May 4, 2019, 5:17 PM

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@blazing prawn @flat ivy thanks for the plug in the latest episode 🙏

flat ivy May 4, 2019, 5:21 PM

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Thanks for the efforts!

swift lance May 5, 2019, 9:26 AM

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I have just got around to looking and it doesn't seem easily available in the UK

blazing prawn May 5, 2019, 9:27 AM

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😦

queen mirage May 5, 2019, 9:52 AM

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@swift lance what are you lookin for ?

forest cosmos May 5, 2019, 9:53 AM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/330990142594613249/573393706783342592

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Probably worth taking that to #330944238910963714 though, it'll also get more eyeballs there

queen mirage May 5, 2019, 9:55 AM

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nice, that sounds insanly sensitive should probably be something similar avaliable even if it isn't AS sensitive as that, if it even can detect my fingers on the keyboard, I don't have much travel 🤔

forest cosmos May 5, 2019, 9:56 AM

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Sound sensor? Load sensor on the chair? Thermal camera?

queen mirage May 5, 2019, 9:57 AM

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ey, don't fatshame me 🤣

swift lance May 5, 2019, 10:05 AM

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@queen miragei am looking for the sensor that was mentioned in the latest podcast.

mint kestrel May 6, 2019, 10:29 PM

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any DIY versions of those presence sensors?

worldly sinew May 7, 2019, 10:51 PM

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Very interesting episode with Pascal and answered a couple of questions I’ve been wondering about Hass.io. I do however have an extra question for Pascal or the rest of you guys regarding Hass.io container rebuilds stateless/statefull. When exactly was that implemented? I have noticed that the docker/overlay2 folder keeps increasing in size. Is this related to the container being rebuild and the ability to maintain state? Right now it’s twice as big as the actual container (9Gb). Is there an easy way to limit this folders size? How big is your overlay2 folder? Mine is twice as big as the actual container folder.

blazing prawn May 8, 2019, 3:48 AM

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hey @worldly sinew just going to copy-paste @inner hamlet response here, incase anyone else comes over it or has an idea

The only change is, that the container will be reused instead every time recreated. 9GB is big, maybe there is something inside container they write logs or do other things?

tepid vapor May 10, 2019, 11:09 AM

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Looks like the "What cloud service is closing up?" segment of the Podcast will be back with a proper bang!

sick mango May 10, 2019, 11:30 AM

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There should be a catchy jingle leading up to it

queen mirage May 10, 2019, 11:32 AM

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Like the American jingles of the 50s

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Similar to the intro to The Carpenters - Calling occupants of interplanetary craft

tepid vapor May 10, 2019, 11:56 AM

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Or just play the intro to Queen's Another Bites The Dust? 😄

wispy marsh May 10, 2019, 2:29 PM

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I was going to suggest the "Curb your Enthusiasm" Theme

sly thicket May 10, 2019, 7:03 PM

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benny hill

wispy marsh May 10, 2019, 7:32 PM

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It's time for everyone's favorite game show. What cloud service that you relied on got fucked over today?!

spare karma May 11, 2019, 5:09 AM

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@wispy marsh it's always ecobee ... not sure what those knuckleheads are doing there but they can't seem to keep the cloud up ... ugh, how I wish they had a local API

mossy dune May 12, 2019, 9:51 AM

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Hey @waxen quest ! I’m intrigued by your comment on the podcast that you use a Xiaomi leak sensor to detect shower occupancy! How does this work? Have you stuck it down?!

blazing prawn May 12, 2019, 10:51 AM

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@mossy dune I haven't stuck it down. I found that by itself it would create too much of a seal. So once it got wet, it would not dry up as the water underneath it would get sealed in, and hence the sensor wouldn't go dry and mark the shower as unoccupied.

To solve this, I placed some bluetac underneath the sensor. This slightly raises the contacts of the sensor, so that when the water dries out the circuit breaks and the shower is correctly marked as unoccupied. However because of this, if water is rushing past, the sensor could go from wet/dry too quickly. So I combined it with a template sensor, with a delay_off, so that the sensor must be marked as dry for at least 5 minutes

mossy dune May 12, 2019, 11:05 AM

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Thanks Phil! Doesn’t it float around in the tray?

blazing prawn May 12, 2019, 11:05 AM

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I put it right near the drain, so water doesn't pool near it for it to float

mossy dune May 12, 2019, 11:09 AM

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Awesome, excited to try this! Thanks for the idea 💡

queen mirage May 12, 2019, 12:51 PM

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Curious as to how sensitive it is, couldn't one stick it on the side of the shower and it would get splashed regularly anyway? Or would it just flop from triggered to untriggered constantly? 🤔

blazing prawn May 12, 2019, 12:51 PM

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Unfortunately the splash isn't enough to complete the circuit (there are two probes on either side that need to be connected by a solid body of water)

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Plus yes it would then flick to untriggered a lot

vast crest May 12, 2019, 12:52 PM

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@queen mirage makes a big mess when showering, I think it will be fine 😛

queen mirage May 12, 2019, 12:52 PM

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Oh, so actually submerged of sorts, i thought it acted like a sensitive humidity sensor

blazing prawn May 12, 2019, 12:53 PM

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no not at all 😦

queen mirage May 12, 2019, 12:56 PM

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An even better solution would be to have a flow meter installed on the lead connected to the intake in the shower, that would always be high when you have flow, we use that on our water cooled racks, so that if water stops flowing we know there is an issue with the water supply, but definitely usable for shower occupancy

blazing prawn May 12, 2019, 12:56 PM

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now that's a great idea!

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Unfortunately I rent, so no changing fixtures for me 😦

queen mirage May 12, 2019, 12:58 PM

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Well, usually the end into the shower cabinet is a flexible hose (atleast in Scandinavia) and that hose is self changeable, so it would be possible to just insert a flow meter with male / male connections between the hose and cabinet then send that signal somehow to HA

blazing prawn May 12, 2019, 12:59 PM

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hmm unfortunately not here, direct to the wall

queen mirage May 12, 2019, 12:59 PM

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Dang, well it was worth the idea atleast 😛

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Come to think of it, on our water cooled racks the flowmeter is installed on the outbound pipe, so in theory one could have it installed in a drain pipe as well,no need to tinker with fixture's, it's just a wheel that is moved by the flow of water, so drill a hole in a the plastic drain pipe from the cabinet, and insert the flow meter
Similar to this paddle meter https://images.app.goo.gl/utik4qNbbuYazp617

blazing prawn May 12, 2019, 1:03 PM

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oh that's neat, but my shower drain goes straight to the floor, so underneath the house.

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Not that invested to get dirty haha

queen mirage May 12, 2019, 1:04 PM

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Damn you and your not flexible solution 😂

blazing prawn May 12, 2019, 1:04 PM

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yup

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but these are great ideas!

queen mirage May 12, 2019, 1:05 PM

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Engineer by trade, not by education, makes me scrapyard creative😂

copper thistle May 12, 2019, 1:29 PM

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Anyone able to help me out - On the latest podcast with Pascal he mentioned some presence detection he uses instead of motion detectors - Does anyone know what exactly he was talking about?

I like the idea of motion detection which isn't as reliant on large motion. Apparently these can even pick you up while you're in bed or with little movement while you're in the room, etc.

Thanks in advance!

blazing prawn May 12, 2019, 1:30 PM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/330990142594613249/573393706783342592

copper thistle May 12, 2019, 2:12 PM

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@blazing prawn - thanks heaps

tough kindle May 16, 2019, 6:43 AM

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@blazing prawn survey filled!

blazing prawn May 16, 2019, 6:44 AM

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Cheers @tough kindle !

tough kindle May 16, 2019, 6:45 AM

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also just bumped you in #announcements

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get you a few more listens

blazing prawn May 16, 2019, 6:45 AM

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😄

tough kindle May 16, 2019, 7:00 AM

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Also I left you ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 😃

blazing prawn May 16, 2019, 7:01 AM

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Perfect! Greatly appreciated

sick mango May 16, 2019, 7:10 AM

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Listening now! Yay! You actually did the jingle!

zealous trail May 16, 2019, 8:22 AM

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As far as I'm concerned everybody in the community should be listening to this podcast 😃

swift lance May 16, 2019, 9:31 AM

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Listened on the way to work, journey not long enough so I get to listen again. Just did the survey as well.

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Just realised I filled in the wrong discord user name🤔

rigid totem May 16, 2019, 10:37 AM

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Great podcast! Also the guest Peter was awesome how he got to implement Home Assistant

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Rated 5 stars and filled in the survey

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@blazing prawn i have also left you a PM with a guest suggestion. I have spoken to the person who would like to be guest on your podcast show.

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And he would love to be on the show 😁

blazing prawn May 16, 2019, 10:41 AM

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Great stuff! I'll reach out to him. Thanks @rigid totem

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@swift lance I got you! I'll add you to the list. 🤘

obtuse mesa May 16, 2019, 11:39 PM

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That survey was difficult 😂

blazing prawn May 16, 2019, 11:43 PM

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I'll grade your answers and let you know if you failed 😛

carmine inlet May 17, 2019, 12:20 AM

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Survey completed. To me, guests are key.

gaunt moon May 17, 2019, 2:41 AM

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Survey done. I enjoy the discussions on release notes/breaking changes but would also listen to guests only podcasts also.

flat ivy May 17, 2019, 2:42 AM

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thanks everyone for doing the survey and the feedback!!!

sick mango May 17, 2019, 12:30 PM

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I really like the summary of the change notes, but the guests are what makes me turn on a random episode while mowing the lawn. Even the first few ones are still interesting.

obtuse mesa May 17, 2019, 1:23 PM

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Agreed, the format is great as is IMO. But would be all for additional guest interviews on off-release weeks

waxen quest May 18, 2019, 12:27 AM

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Survey done, personally I am a big fan of the release notes and the quick discussion around them before further deep dives and interviews.

pallid tree May 19, 2019, 1:48 PM

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survey completed, love the show and enjoy listening to it on the motorway drive to work after release. I have left my details to share what I have done with my setup, but to be fair it's not that exciting! MOst exciting thing I do is use a waze sensor to change a coloured LIFX bulb to RED if the journey time to work is not within 90 minutes, then back to green if it does return to 90 mins whilst I am getting ready to leave.

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so probably not an interesting guest 😉 at the moment...

wispy marsh May 19, 2019, 4:21 PM

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You'll get there.

blazing prawn May 19, 2019, 11:09 PM

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@pallid tree that sounds pretty cool though. Although, 90 minute commute. Yuk

queen mirage May 20, 2019, 6:51 AM

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Survey filled out 👌 I'm starting to build my HA driven greenhouse now that my wife is done with her bachelor, if you have any guests coming up doing that I'm interested 😂

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Listening to episode 48, for the boat guy, the raspberry pi ups hat might be a good solution if not already suggested

tropic fox May 21, 2019, 4:35 AM

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In #39 you mention an app called "find" that uses the different wifi strengths to try and figure out where in the house you are. Despite (or maybe because) the name, i'm so far unable to find this app. Can you link me, please?

blazing prawn May 21, 2019, 4:36 AM

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@tropic fox here you go: https://github.com/schollz/find

tropic fox May 21, 2019, 4:36 AM

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That was quick! Thanks!

fresh raptor May 23, 2019, 8:32 AM

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Just listening to the release podcast, very interesting, and Essent is a DUTCH company, not DANISH, I know for americans it's all Europe, but they are two sovereign countries with their own language 😄

queen mirage May 23, 2019, 8:34 AM

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From now on we'll just say Phil is Austrian and Rohan is from Cancun then 🤣 The names sounds similar

fresh raptor May 23, 2019, 9:14 AM

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Btw. regarding Peters doorlock issue, I've found out that the Danalock is a very good solution for the door. Getting z-wave up and running is more problematic, but with the later releases where it's integrated, it's easy peasy, simple 5-step procedure, and it works rocksolid, even monitors the batteries in the lock.

blazing prawn May 23, 2019, 10:54 PM

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@fresh raptor I agree with @queen mirage same same 😛

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Clearly I wasn't awake when writing the show notes

flat ivy May 24, 2019, 8:30 PM

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and clearly i didnt review either 😦 our bad!

With that said, I'm 100% ok living in Cancun, though Toronto is just starting to get nice this time of year

queen mirage May 24, 2019, 9:50 PM

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🤣

wicked crater May 31, 2019, 3:04 PM

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Just found the podcast from someone talking about it on the facebook group. Great stuff. I'm starting with the backlog of episodes and working my way forward. My HA task list is getting longer by the episode....

blazing prawn Jun 1, 2019, 12:29 PM

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Yay!

flat ivy Jun 1, 2019, 4:22 PM

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@wicked crater it never ends

blazing prawn Jun 3, 2019, 6:09 AM

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https://twitter.com/balloob/status/1135425051895840768?s=19

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Meet @flat ivy and @steep field if you're in the San Diego area

wispy marsh Jun 3, 2019, 12:44 PM

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Oh dang. I don't think I can handle a 3000 mile drive yet

flat ivy Jun 4, 2019, 2:59 AM

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Oh come on! 3000 miles is nothing 😄

queen mirage Jun 4, 2019, 6:52 AM

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Yeah, I have 5200 miles of flight to get there 😛

lapis inlet Jun 4, 2019, 8:28 AM

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I'm skipping @flat ivy, sorry 😦

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flat ivy Jun 5, 2019, 3:02 PM

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@queen mirage still doable!

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@lapis inlet 😦 I think you can do it haha

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as a reminder - if you didn't see @blazing prawn 's message above, @steep field and I want to meet you all! This Sunday! In San Diego (California, not Texas @obtuse mesa )

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/san-diego-meetup-june-9/119795/3

queen mirage Jun 5, 2019, 3:19 PM

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You need to do a US + EU meetup, like VMWorld does it, and only give us several months old news when you eventually come to the EU 😛

sick mango Jun 6, 2019, 3:57 PM

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”Configuration without YAML and Zack” Now this I got to hear! I’ve never been able to configure anything without him before...

flat ivy Jun 6, 2019, 4:23 PM

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@queen mirage easier said than done! heh funnily enough the reason we’re doing it in SD is because I’m down for Cisco Live!

With that said, If anyone is there and can’t make the meetup, come say hi there!

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@sick mango haha no one said grammar is our strong point 😂

queen mirage Jun 6, 2019, 4:37 PM

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Maybe I'll go to Cisco live if I ever get around to do the certifications 😛

stuck grove Jun 6, 2019, 10:59 PM

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Great show guys.

blazing prawn Jun 6, 2019, 11:00 PM

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Thanks @stuck grove

flat ivy Jun 7, 2019, 3:40 AM

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@queen mirage you can literally do it there haha

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@stuck grove thanks!!!!

wild cypress Jun 8, 2019, 3:22 PM

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I'm way behind but thank you for mentioning the seven segment ocr component on episode 48!

flat ivy Jun 22, 2019, 4:58 PM

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Ooo

lapis inlet Jun 23, 2019, 8:51 PM

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Just a couple of days.....

queen mirage Jun 24, 2019, 10:25 AM

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Then frenck will rule the world? mindblown

lapis inlet Jun 24, 2019, 10:34 AM

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ponder

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But no, another podcast @queen mirage 😄

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I just look forward to those 😃

wild cypress Jun 27, 2019, 5:23 AM

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I need a written list of all the things Brendon is talking about!!

blazing prawn Jun 27, 2019, 5:24 AM

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I'll see if I can pull up the show notes and put write them down

wild cypress Jun 27, 2019, 5:27 AM

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His website is cute but a bit out of date ;)

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Don't put a motion sensor inside your Canada Post box. They'll think it's something menacing and you'll go to jail ;)

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Maybe just a road facing camera to detect the Canada Post van going by @flat ivy ?

flat ivy Jun 27, 2019, 5:44 AM

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haha problem is where I am they use contractors, so you don't have the iconic red van - its literally someone's SUV

wild cypress Jun 27, 2019, 5:51 AM

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Oh yeah I've seen those too. Just don't go to prison, it's not worth it! We still have door to door at my place!

flat ivy Jun 27, 2019, 5:52 AM

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haha yeah thats true!

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oo thats cool - I've always had a community mailbox 😦

queen mirage Jun 27, 2019, 4:23 PM

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I am thinking about putting a LoRA sensor on my mailbox

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When I get around to it..

vast crest Jun 27, 2019, 4:23 PM

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@queen mirage's IOT Mailbox comming in 2032

queen mirage Jun 27, 2019, 4:24 PM

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Or thereabouts xi2

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When the baby starts in kindergarten in December I should get more time on my hands spongeSOS

vast crest Jun 27, 2019, 4:29 PM

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That's what you think now 😛

signal sail Jun 27, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Hey all, the latest podcast guest (Brendon Baumgartner) mentioned an automation triggered on iOS Activity events (cycling), mentioning some work done by a developer named Robbie. Does anyone have anymore information on how that works or how to get activity or health information out of iOS and into hass? Thanks!

signal shadow Jun 27, 2019, 10:21 PM

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@signal sail try #ios_and_mac-archived

blazing prawn Jun 27, 2019, 11:07 PM

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@signal sail this should be in the official Home Assistant iOS app developed by @tough kindle

I think the specific features around activities is a v2 feature, which is currently in beta. But as @signal shadow says #ios_and_mac-archived will have the best answers for you

upper spindle Jun 28, 2019, 11:16 PM

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I subscribed to the podcast just now... I'll start listening to it when I am driving.

flat ivy Jun 28, 2019, 11:58 PM

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@upper spindle enjoy!

torpid mortar Jul 5, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Guys, finally listened to the latest episode; another outstanding one. I’m overjoyed every time a new episode appears. 😄

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RE: the conversation around guest/vacation/etc. modes with AppDaemon, I have a pretty cool setup: https://github.com/bachya/smart-home/tree/master/appdaemon/settings/apps

Modes are simply input booleans that fire "MODE_CHANGED" events.
In the YAML definitions, automations can specify whether they should enable/disable based upon these events.
The same mechanism is used to enable/disable via any event – for example, I have some automations that turn on when everyone leaves home.
Automations can also specify callbacks for when they are enabled/disabled – e.g., when an automation is disabled (regardless of the mechanism that took it there), it can, say, stop sending notifications.

blazing prawn Jul 6, 2019, 5:42 AM

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@torpid mortar that sounds awesome!

long herald Jul 8, 2019, 6:18 AM

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@flat ivy Switch to hacs this minute! 😮

flat ivy Jul 8, 2019, 6:41 AM

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Haha I did that like 15 seconds after we recorded that ep last week

queen mirage Jul 8, 2019, 9:15 AM

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All praise lord @vast crest 🙏

weak temple Jul 12, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Long time listener, first time Discorder (sort of). Just wanted to say that I really appreciate the podcast and the topics covered. Hearing how other people are doing their automations is truly interesting and expensive. Also I'm glad we shamed Logitech into doing sort of the right thign with Harmony.

blazing prawn Jul 13, 2019, 2:55 AM

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Awesome @weak temple glad you enjoy it!!

prime venture Jul 14, 2019, 10:03 PM

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Just want to pass on massive thanks to Phil and Rohan for the podcast (and Dan if he is still around and all the guests). Have binged listened all of the episodes over the last month or 2, learnt a lot and have a list far too long for me to ever get through! Awesome to hear how others are using the system, even a boat here in NZ 😃 .

blazing prawn Jul 14, 2019, 11:01 PM

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Nice one @prime venture thanks!

torpid mortar Jul 18, 2019, 1:10 AM

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@flat ivy @blazing prawn Appreciate the shout-out on the latest episode, guys. Since you asked about Notion: in addition the the “Oreo sensors” (which also monitor smoke/CO, as well!), each Notion kit comes with a bridge that you plug directly into an outlet. The bridge connects to WiFi, then each communicates with each sensor over what appears to be Zigbee.

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Zigbee isn’t my domain of expertise, but might be an opportunity for some enterprising zigbee2mqtt contributor to see if we can get rid of the bridge and communicate with the sensors directly. 😎

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Lastly, the sensors run off of AAA batteries.

blazing prawn Jul 18, 2019, 1:12 AM

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OOoh!!

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Nice one @torpid mortar

dull hollow Jul 18, 2019, 1:32 PM

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Recently installed Hassbian and found the podcast, started at the beginning. Has been great so far!!

queen mirage Jul 18, 2019, 6:16 PM

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I loved podcast 50 about adapting home assistant for multiple personalities NootLikeThis very interesting listening

weak temple Jul 19, 2019, 1:10 AM

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Topic suggestion. I keep seeing all the cool kids on reddit post about Sonoff, Shelly, tasmoda , etc. I've not had time to go down this rabbit hole. It'd be cool to do an ELI5 or something on these seemingly homebrew-ish areas.

shrewd nebula Jul 19, 2019, 1:04 PM

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Someone got an template for the latest podcast episode?

paper scaffold Jul 19, 2019, 1:40 PM

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Yes look in my got

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Git lol

shrewd nebula Jul 19, 2019, 2:02 PM

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https://github.com/Vasiley/Home-Assistant-Main/blob/master/packages/ha_podcast.yaml this?
or is there naother hidden one?
Would like to have an URL to cast - atm I manualy run a service call to media extractor

obtuse mesa Jul 22, 2019, 8:28 PM

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@shrewd nebula https://github.com/custom-components/gpodder

GitHub

custom-components/gpodder

🎧 gPodder Integration for Podcast Feed Monitoring. Contribute to custom-components/gpodder development by creating an account on GitHub.

shrewd nebula Jul 22, 2019, 8:29 PM

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🎉

obtuse mesa Jul 22, 2019, 8:29 PM

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Made a podcast card as well https://github.com/custom-cards/podcast-card

GitHub

custom-cards/podcast-card

🎧 Podcast Card. Contribute to custom-cards/podcast-card development by creating an account on GitHub.

shrewd nebula Jul 22, 2019, 9:20 PM

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omg - I get a little better in bash
/usr/bin/curl --range 0-200 "https://hasspodcast.io/feed/podcast" 2>&1 | grep enclosure\ url= | (head -n 1 ) | cut -d '"' -f 2

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props to @vast crest ❤ you showed me something like this a year ago

vast crest Jul 22, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Don't blame me for that 🤣

shrewd nebula Jul 22, 2019, 9:25 PM

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Sure I do 😉

blazing prawn Jul 22, 2019, 11:04 PM

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@vast crest I was tailing our access logs the other day debugging something, and all I could see is hit after hit of our RSS feed getting called. So I'm blaming you 😛

sly thicket Jul 23, 2019, 12:40 PM

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@shrewd nebula save the pipes! /usr/bin/curl --range 0-200 "https://hasspodcast.io/feed/podcast" 2>&1 | awk -F\" '/url=/ { print $2;exit }'

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find a line containing url=, use " as the input field separator, print the match, quit after printing the first match

shrewd nebula Jul 23, 2019, 12:42 PM

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oooh 😄

sly thicket Jul 23, 2019, 12:42 PM

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awk is cool. it can usually cut down on the number of tools you need to pipe things between but it can be difficult to grok for more advanced things

shrewd nebula Jul 23, 2019, 12:44 PM

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the range will not work as far as I can tell, probably the feature isnt enabled

teal flint Jul 24, 2019, 11:15 AM

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@blazing prawn
You mentioned on the 0.96 Podcast that your Synology Docker installation slowed down. This happened to me recently after I added date/time sensors and the symptoms were: slow restart, state and history pages taking forever to load. When the history page did eventually load I noticed lots of "stripes" for the time sensor so I excluded this from history and recorder. My installation has been running great ever since.
Cheers!

blazing prawn Jul 24, 2019, 1:24 PM

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@teal flint good tip! I tried a whole bunch of excluding entities and the like. I think I'm just running too many docker containers on it, so eventually Home Assistant was suffering.

tranquil heath Jul 24, 2019, 11:51 PM

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for streaming you guys need to look at SRT

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https://github.com/Haivision/srt

glacial crypt Aug 8, 2019, 2:33 AM

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Hi all! I was listening to the new podcast, and the bit at the start about getting your alarm clock into Home Assistant caught my attention. I use Ariela as my HA client on my Android, and it has built-in support for this. It exposes whatever your next alarm is to Home Assistant as a sensor. I use the standard Android clock app, and while I don't do anything with the data yet, I definitely see it show up in HA! https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.surodev.ariela

blazing prawn Aug 8, 2019, 2:33 AM

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Oh that's awesome @glacial crypt !

glacial crypt Aug 8, 2019, 2:34 AM

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Yeah! It sounded a lot easier than the idea of rolling your own in Lovelace 😃

blazing prawn Aug 8, 2019, 2:34 AM

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haha yeah absolutely

merry kiln Aug 8, 2019, 11:54 AM

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Listening to to the podcast you talk about plex and emby. Emby does require internet if you use your forum account but you can setup emby with local accounts and link it to the emby cloud. Internet goes out you switch to your local network and local accounts and no issue.

blazing prawn Aug 8, 2019, 11:55 AM

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Thanks @merry kiln good to know! Will have to take a look and see what apps it supports

merry kiln Aug 8, 2019, 12:00 PM

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@blazing prawn, it supports a lot and like home assistant the developers are very friendly and active on the forums.

blazing prawn Aug 8, 2019, 12:02 PM

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Looks like it supports LG and Roku! So I'm set 😃

merry kiln Aug 8, 2019, 12:17 PM

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@blazing prawn, now if you get premium services some of them they will break without internet but you will still have access to your media.

blazing prawn Aug 8, 2019, 12:19 PM

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That's all I need, local access to local media. No point running a local server with it if you can't access it without internet

quasi raptor Aug 8, 2019, 12:30 PM

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There is also https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin which is a true open source fork of emby. Emby has some features which are not open source, the git repo contains them as compiled dlls. It is API compatible to emby.

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Also if you are using emby in the non-premium version it annoys you with popups to buy premium from time to time. This isn't the case for jellyin. Biggest pro point for me^^

blazing prawn Aug 8, 2019, 12:35 PM

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oooh, ok that's good to know! Cheers @quasi raptor

dusk compass Aug 8, 2019, 7:35 PM

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About relaying a wake-up alarm from iOS to home assistant.. I use the brilliant app Sleep Cycle which can be set up to integrate with phillips hue. Right now I have it fade out the lights when I put the alarm on and slowly fade in at alarm time. But the hue light is also an entity in Home Assistant meaning I can also trigger other automations both in the night and the morning based on the alarm...

blazing prawn Aug 8, 2019, 10:50 PM

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Nice one @dusk compass

Does that require the Philips Hue hub to connect to? Or does it connect directly to Home Assistant?

merry kiln Aug 8, 2019, 11:04 PM

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The wyze sense has a custom component now. I am using it and liking it so far. I have a mix of zigbee, zwave, and wyze now.

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/wyze-sense-sensor-integrations/108012

ivory fern Aug 9, 2019, 2:59 AM

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Does anybody remember the name of the software Brandon talked about in the newest episode to get power data from power meters via RF?

dusk compass Aug 9, 2019, 5:50 AM

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@blazing prawn I guess you need the hub as the app communicates with that. So the home assistant only track the changed state of my Hue Light Strip inder the bed, but works well enough

long herald Aug 12, 2019, 9:46 AM

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Hey, which episode talked about the vacuum automation that sent a notification that asked about vacuuming in the morning? (at least I think it was in the podcast..)

sick mango Aug 12, 2019, 10:17 AM

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52 or 53 I think

long herald Aug 12, 2019, 11:39 AM

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Maybe 52 with Brendon then.

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His website and blogs are not really that up to date though 😄

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was hoping to find some code

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Found some inspiration in @torpid mortar s github instead 👍

flat ivy Aug 13, 2019, 11:56 PM

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yeah I think it was 52

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@torpid mortar is a wealth of information!

torpid mortar Aug 14, 2019, 2:30 AM

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Thanks, gang. 😄 Building all this cool stuff is 50% of the fun; helping other people is the other 50%.

signal shadow Aug 14, 2019, 8:25 AM

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@blazing prawn I'm currently listening to episode 54 and your troubles with plex. There's a local open source alternative that I heard about called Jellyfin https://jellyfin.github.io I'm thinking I will migrate over when it they have iOS and TVOS apps.

blazing prawn Aug 14, 2019, 8:35 AM

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oooo thanks @signal shadow

signal shadow Aug 14, 2019, 8:36 AM

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Also I feel your pain with Aussie internet, I'm just glad I got the (real) NBN years ago. Won't move anywhere that doesn't have it 😂

blazing prawn Aug 14, 2019, 8:37 AM

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Oh man! I am so jealous

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Living the dream

mild aspen Aug 21, 2019, 10:40 PM

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there is also Emby @signal shadow @blazing prawn

blazing prawn Aug 21, 2019, 10:55 PM

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Very interesting @mild aspen I've thought about that too. However considering how close Emby and Plex are in terms of features, I would just assume Emby would have a similar issue where it requires an internet connection to start streaming something locally.

Might have to spin up an Emby server docker container and test it out!

lapis inlet Aug 22, 2019, 9:25 AM

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@blazing prawn Jellyfin is a fork of Emby

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that was created after Emby went the Plex path and closing up the source

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Jellyfin in general, is winning in terms of community. Something to consider maybe. I'm not a user myself though (I'm happy with Plex).

blazing prawn Aug 22, 2019, 9:31 AM

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Thanks @lapis inlet

That's interesting. I wonder how their app support is (Roku etc)

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I'm also happy with Plex, until my next internet outage

lapis inlet Aug 22, 2019, 9:32 AM

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I'm not sure, but I've heard there is a Jellyfin compatibility layer or something that allows the use of plex apps.

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However, I have never looked into it

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so not sure if I mis understood that

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or well... yeah

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🤷

blazing prawn Aug 22, 2019, 9:33 AM

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haha well thank you for another item on this list kind sir!

quasi raptor Aug 22, 2019, 9:53 AM

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@blazing prawn Here is a list of the supported clients of jellyfin: https://jellyfin.readthedocs.io/en/latest/clients/
Roku is listed as "major updates required". It seems there is a working version and the development is making good progress:
https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-roku

blazing prawn Aug 22, 2019, 11:09 AM

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Thanks @quasi raptor

No LG, Samsung not maintained and Roku "deprecated but salvageable". Damn shame, they're my main platforms

wild glade Aug 26, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Why don't you use Video Station from Synology @blazing prawn ? I used to love/hate Plex then gave another go to Video Station and it did improve very much.

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And no Internet connection required - EVER 😄

blazing prawn Aug 26, 2019, 10:40 PM

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@wild glade I actually forgot that exists lol!

Well I'm going to guess that video station is just DLNA. For whatever reason, my Roku struggled to play some of my videos over the Plex DLNA. Guess there wasn't enough bandwidth, or the NAS had to transcode the video for DLNA or something. but it was quite annoying

wild glade Aug 27, 2019, 8:09 AM

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Don't know when you last used it @blazing prawn - they did some improvements on transcoding video on the fly, I know I never had any issues on my device up to 1080p (used on LG Smart TV, android phones, laptops and Chromecast). Plus subtitles are improved too if needed. But yeah, DLNA...

granite skiff Aug 29, 2019, 7:37 AM

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Hey guys! Great episode. @flat ivy you've mention that you are using custom component for your zigbee network. Could please share more details or link from that component?

mental barn Aug 29, 2019, 11:41 AM

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Listening to the podcast this morning - monitor.sh works with iPhone random mac addresses. You enter the Bluetooth radio mac that appears in settings on the phone and it works.

sour oasis Sep 2, 2019, 4:06 PM

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I have emby and have not seen issues with local streaming with no internet.

blazing prawn Sep 3, 2019, 3:49 AM

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good to hear @sour oasis!

queen mirage Sep 9, 2019, 4:20 PM

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https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/6/20853671/best-buy-connect-insignia-smart-plug-wifi-freezer-mobile-app-shutdown-november-6

stiff oriole Sep 12, 2019, 8:00 AM

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Hi all, first off, really dig your podcast, thanks for taking the time and effort to put it together so diligently. I Hope this the right place to ask a (sort of long form) question about configuration design. If this is not the place, I'll take it to the Forum, but thought this might be an interesting conversation starter here.

A couple of years ago, I converted most of my yaml configuration over to use packages. Personally, I like grouping together similar devices and functionality for better oversight and easier editing. At the time, I thought packages was going to be the way of the future and a lot of people seemed to be switching their configurations to that model (at least, so it appeared to me).

At some point the introduction of configuration reloading saw the first disadvantage of using packages for configuration management, but lately, more and more of the new features of HA (namely GUI editors) see more features become unavailable if packages are being used. I still really like packages and can live without the reloading and GUI editors for now, but am wondering if packages are on their way to deprecation, and eventually, I will have to switch back to the default configuration structure. Furthermore, in trying to research the fate of packages, I just started thinking about what the ideal configuration would look like, one that could take advantage of all the new features of HA, allow for more complicated back-end configured scripts and automatons and be future proof and in-line with the development of the project.

I understand that this might be somewhat of a holistic question and that a configuration is likely to be really prone to personal preference and setup. But it be interesting to hear if there are any specific best practices around or a clear pros and cons for specific design methodologies. Anyway, maybe this is not the right place and if so, I apologize, but otherwise, would love to hear your / anyone's thoughts on this.

sick mango Sep 12, 2019, 8:43 AM

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Pro tip: You can use shift+enter to insert newlines in your messages (the bot doesn't like it if there's more than 15 lines, though).
(You can also edit messages)

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After going through it: This discussion would probably fit better in #330944238910963714.

stiff oriole Sep 12, 2019, 9:57 AM

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@sick mango Thanks for the tip Thomas, I was not aware bots got mad at 15+ lines of text. I will also post this in #330944238910963714 (and remove it from here if that's preferred)

blazing prawn Sep 12, 2019, 10:29 PM

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Hey @stiff oriole

First off this is probably a great topic for a forum post. But since you asked here, I may as well throw in my 2c.

Like you, I also moved over to packages, and saw the disadvantages like you. However I must point out (after someone had to point out to me) that packages do support reloading on the fly!

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For now I think packages are the way to go still though

stiff oriole Sep 12, 2019, 10:54 PM

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@blazing prawn Thanks for that Phil! I did not know that packages could reload (nor tried). But good to hear that they do and lesson learned on trusting documentation blindly. I for one dread the thought of breaking my packages apart and going back to the times of having to update 6 disparate yaml files to update / modify a specific action or automation. But I would really like the ability to quickly generate and test a simple automation from the GUI. Specifically now since Philips Hue has become real hit or miss on restarts, it can become really tedious to make simple adjustments as it often take s me 3 or more restarts to get my lights (which are still the predominant feature of my house) recognised and working. Thanks again for the input and thanks again for your efforts with the podcast.

forest cosmos Sep 13, 2019, 6:16 AM

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PR for the docs submitted - the ability to reload inside packages was changed relatively recently and it looks like the docs were overlooked

sick mango Sep 13, 2019, 6:34 AM

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Huh? I didn't know that. Neat!

vast crest Sep 13, 2019, 6:35 AM

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I think 0.82 or 0.84 added support for that

foggy prism Sep 13, 2019, 6:37 AM

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But when I try reloading it never seems to work and I have to restart anyway...

unique nest Sep 30, 2019, 1:33 PM

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Hi
I am listening to your last podcast and I really feel that this is where I could help.
I build house with all cat cables and I am in a process of putting it together with home assistant. There is a project called my sensors with has serial gateway. This means that you connect Arduino via USB and then single cables (wires from cat cable)to it as your input or output. I have at this moment make thus way my heating(every room has thermometer and relay) and outside blinds. I'm in a process of connecting our sensor and light and list goes on. This is Rather diy solution because you have done this wiring but for price of 2 Arduino mega and bunch relays and ds18b20 I have 11 rooms with thermostat and blind controlled so I call it a good deal. There is many ready sketches for Arduino that you only have to input you pins to which you connect device. I'm feeling that this should be more announced way of automating there are couple way of doing this. There is FB group but in polish where people done many applications of it but on mysensors forums you can also find a lot. I would love to hear about wired solutions more in your podcast.
Sorry for my English I rather hear and read a lot but not much a writer.

Cheers

tepid vapor Oct 3, 2019, 10:22 PM

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That jingle still ready to go? https://twitter.com/mcflyhh/status/1179866404964712449?s=19

blazing prawn Oct 3, 2019, 10:32 PM

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@tepid vapor 😢

tepid vapor Oct 11, 2019, 11:13 AM

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No jingle when it was mentioned? 😢

blazing prawn Oct 11, 2019, 11:13 AM

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Sorry @tepid vapor 😢

sick mango Oct 11, 2019, 11:41 AM

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Yeah. I was waiting for that too

ocean hinge Oct 16, 2019, 5:48 PM

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Hey all. Does anyone have links or info to the BLE 5.0 beacons and receiver Tony was talking about on podcast 57?

eager pelican Oct 19, 2019, 4:52 PM

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I'm thinking about doing a twice a week listen to the podcast start-to-finish, anyone want to join my discord channel and do this with me?

sour pebble Oct 19, 2019, 5:39 PM

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Sounds like a book club kind of thing 🙂

eager pelican Oct 20, 2019, 2:01 AM

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the less alone with my thoughts for me the better!

flat ivy Oct 24, 2019, 11:56 PM

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oh man a HASS bookclub

lapis inlet Oct 30, 2019, 11:34 PM

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Hey guys!

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Time to stop saying "Components" in both speaking terms and show notes 😄

sick mango Oct 31, 2019, 7:37 AM

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Hey guys! I haven't finished the latest episode quite yet, but I have a few things about the solar panel discussion.
First of all, you should really really follow up on that fire thing. Call any fire station and they will be happy to clear it all up. Then you should offer a followup and (hopefully) full retraction on the next show. Please.
Second, just as a tidbit - a solar panel inverter can't generate AC power without an AC frequency reference - i.e. grid power. That's the main reason it shuts off. If it even tried to all kinds of bad stuff would happen.

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The Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency, as a reference, has guidelines for firefighters as well as rules for how a solar panel setup should be labeled and constructed in order to be disconnected safely. There's no mention as far as I can see of just letting it burn to the ground.

crystal bolt Oct 31, 2019, 6:03 PM

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Another all in one notification system is mqttwarn, which uses subscription to various mqtt topics to push notifications to slack, pushover twitter etc. https://github.com/jpmens/mqttwarn

lapis inlet Oct 31, 2019, 6:54 PM

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@sick mango It can use some averaged last reference it had, similar like how APC units do it. The sine-wave simulations are pretty darn good now (Cyberpower is know for it for example).

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In the Netherlands however, it is forbidden 🙂

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(functional solar panels when loosing grid power, unless there is a breaker that prevents it from being open while grid restores / ensure energy doesn't flow back to the grid that is)

sick mango Oct 31, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Sure. Large scale perhaps, but there’s no way you can black start a grid from a domestic setup.

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I’m not saying you couldn’t hurt someone from a faulty system trying it, but most won’t without knowing the grid is already strong.

thick ember Oct 31, 2019, 11:52 PM

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I can think of a number of ways to safely take anything off the grid when grid is dead (no backfeeding for public responder and power crew safety) while still feeding an inverter a crappy but syncable AC signal to get it to start... maybe I'm missing something here. Even a stupid square wave will trick many into starting from black.

sick mango Nov 1, 2019, 6:37 AM

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To be honest, I'm probably on the left slope of the Dunning-Kruger peak here...

thick ember Nov 1, 2019, 12:45 PM

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LOL. We’ve all been there and ARE there about more things than we realize. 🙂

flat ivy Nov 1, 2019, 7:19 PM

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haha duely noted @sick mango ill see if I can get in touch with my local fire dept and ask sometime next week

formal thicket Nov 1, 2019, 7:49 PM

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Just listened to the last podcast episode on 0.101 and some bloke named Stephen. He mentioned that he used a "WeMo" device, powered by his car to trigger his garage door, more reliably than with geo-fencing on your phone. This device was powered by his car. Does anyone know what device this was?

crystal bolt Nov 1, 2019, 8:23 PM

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I'm assuming it was just sometjing like a d1 mini, with somethign to connect to wifi when in range. I don't actually think what was running on the wemo was that important, as it's the connection to wifi triggering stuff

formal thicket Nov 1, 2019, 8:35 PM

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(and powered by the car)....

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What integration would register the D1 as a device? Anything besides Unifi?

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I suppost I could run some firmware with MQTT on it...? (I'm still learning about MQTT, and have yet to deploy any devices)

flat ivy Nov 1, 2019, 9:53 PM

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I gotta go back and listen but I think he was saying remote

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but you can use something like a presence/arrival sensor

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but normally I would say something like "presense sensor arrived" + "phone arrived" instead of just one or the other

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gives a bit more resolution / accuracy

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but if you have something plugged in like Stephan had - that would work too

plush holly Nov 2, 2019, 1:16 PM

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Hey everyone. What are some podcasts that are out there? I have a large commute and am new to the HA community. (Really enjoying getting into this btw!) 🙂

queen mirage Nov 5, 2019, 6:18 PM

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https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/05/best_buy_iot/

flat ivy Nov 5, 2019, 6:53 PM

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@plush holly Home Assistant Podcast ^_^

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@queen mirage FFS

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that's annoying

forest cosmos Nov 5, 2019, 6:57 PM

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HA exists because of this problem 😄

flat ivy Nov 5, 2019, 6:58 PM

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haha yeah but guys like me use it as the brain haha too lazy to DIY

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plus everytime I do DIY, someone does it better haha its always the wrong time

queen mirage Nov 5, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Now just wait for a random person that will never create anything else to make a secret way to flash them with a custom firmware 😛

flat ivy Nov 5, 2019, 6:58 PM

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^^^ yes!

forest cosmos Nov 5, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Yeah, but you can buy local first devices - Zigbee, Z-Wave, and more 😉

tepid vapor Nov 5, 2019, 7:49 PM

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Better play the Jingle when that one is mentioned ;)

flat ivy Nov 5, 2019, 7:52 PM

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haha

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I need a soundboard with me smacking my head on a table

queen mirage Nov 6, 2019, 2:33 PM

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You need to hire @tepid vapor to make new Jingles as needed, he has a great studio setup 😛

tepid vapor Nov 6, 2019, 3:01 PM

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TBH, for this I'd just get a sad trombone sample and call it done!

queen mirage Nov 6, 2019, 3:15 PM

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dootdoot

flat ivy Nov 6, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Haha

queen mirage Nov 6, 2019, 3:32 PM

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Catching up to the podcast while driving 700km to a customer 🎉 gotten to 0.97 now

flat ivy Nov 6, 2019, 3:33 PM

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Haha wow

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Jeez @queen mirage that’s called a flight or a train

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Haha

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The most I’ll do is 3-4h drive and at that point they can pay for a flight if they really want me to go

queen mirage Nov 6, 2019, 3:35 PM

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Not when it is 4 hours from the nearest airport, and I get paid to drive and overtime for it 😂

flat ivy Nov 6, 2019, 3:35 PM

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Hahaha welll then maybe

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I get mileage too but damn haha can’t complain about OT though

queen mirage Nov 6, 2019, 3:36 PM

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I drive 30-40k km per year, plus flights for work

flat ivy Nov 6, 2019, 3:36 PM

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Yeah I do about that. Just a lot more 100 km trips I guess 🙂

queen mirage Nov 6, 2019, 3:37 PM

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When our friends in Sweden are too busy, I just have to help them out🤷

sick mango Nov 6, 2019, 4:15 PM

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It's one hour from the airport...

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But you have to fly via Stockholm.

queen mirage Nov 6, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Yeah, but then I would have had to catch the 1330 flight back, and that would be useless 😛

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Now I can spend the whole day

queen mirage Nov 7, 2019, 6:54 PM

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Holy heck the guy in the 0.99 podcasts number of devices and automations tom

eager pelican Nov 9, 2019, 3:26 AM

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Having made it through just a few podcasts, I'd say one missed item is home builders should STOP PUTTING IN MULTIPLE MANUAL WALL SWITCHES for the same device. That's the biggest problem with smart switching, I believe as a contractor.

subtle quail Nov 9, 2019, 5:58 AM

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how so?

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like x-way switching?

balmy mist Nov 10, 2019, 5:14 PM

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N-way switching can be annoying (especially if builders didn't label wires properly, ugh). One of the reasons I went with z-wave switches was because you can hook up "remote" switches to some brands. There's a 4-way switch for the hallway lights upstairs (honestly, it's overkill, but it's what came with the house) - and so I was able to use one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N4F487U/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and 3 of these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01AFU1KOY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

and it works really well!

tepid vapor Nov 10, 2019, 5:34 PM

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The neutral wire requirement for that can be annoying though 😦

violet scaffold Nov 10, 2019, 11:09 PM

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hey @formal thicket just saw your message, i think you want this:

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https://github.com/aderusha/MQTTCarPresence

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it sets a mqtt last will message so when it drops connection to mqtt server a command is issued

formal thicket Nov 11, 2019, 5:27 PM

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Thanks, @violet scaffold . I think I will play around with this one...

queen mirage Nov 13, 2019, 1:06 PM

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Damn you and your podcasts, now I want the switchbot curtain thing angryboi

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Stop telling us about all the cool stuff 😛

blazing prawn Nov 13, 2019, 10:02 PM

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Sorry not sorry @queen mirage

flat ivy Nov 14, 2019, 5:28 AM

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@eager pelican Lutron has a good answer to this. Cap the traveller wire, and stick a remote instead of a second switch

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I’m just straight up not sorry 😛 if I’m wasting money on this SJ will you @queen mirage

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Stuff** not SJ

queen mirage Nov 14, 2019, 5:30 AM

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angryboi

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I want one of the clicker bots too

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It is so cute

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No idea what I will use it for

blazing prawn Nov 14, 2019, 5:32 AM

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I bought 4 of them!

I use two of them to control 1 rocker switch to turn on/off a heater in the bedroom (the switch is too small for the stickers to be able to pull the switch to turn it off)

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But haven't found a use case for the other two...yet

queen mirage Nov 14, 2019, 5:33 AM

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Story of my life

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You should see my office and the amount of components on my desk

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😂

blazing prawn Nov 14, 2019, 5:34 AM

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Oh I know that too well. I have a whole bunch of cheap Xiaomi zigbee sensors and switches from Singles Day 2018 still!! 😄

queen mirage Nov 14, 2019, 5:35 AM

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xi2

zenith cove Nov 22, 2019, 2:05 PM

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In the most recent episode Florin mentioned using something on a raspberry pi by "andrew j friar" (i think?) called "moder script" (I think?) that does bluetooth with tiles on his keys. I can't find what it is.

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This is at about 40 mins into the episode

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Anyone know? 🙂

stable walrusBOT Nov 22, 2019, 2:09 PM

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@zenith cove As an alternative to HA built-in bluetooth tracking, the monitor script uses separate devices, usually Pi Zeroes, to track bluetooth devices.
It uses MQTT topics to relay device status messages to HA. See this forum thread for more.

zenith cove Nov 22, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Good bot.

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Turns out I had actually seen this before, thought the one he mentioned was different. Maybe I need to check this out again.

tepid vapor Nov 24, 2019, 12:33 PM

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Only got to listen to podcast on flight. I approve of the jingle 😉

blazing prawn Nov 25, 2019, 2:02 AM

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Haha thanks @tepid vapor

queen mirage Nov 25, 2019, 3:03 PM

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@blazing prawn regarding the last podcast, you can do tuya convert on more than the smart life range, I've done it on multiple rebrand names

zealous heron Nov 25, 2019, 7:26 PM

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a large collection of tuya-convert-able devices here: https://blakadder.github.io/templates/index.html

blazing prawn Nov 27, 2019, 2:49 AM

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Thanks gents, I didn't want to over-promise 😉

eager pelican Dec 2, 2019, 2:39 AM

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I hope 1.0 includes a non-yaml integration for doorbird. Everyone's looking for non cloud video doorbells and I feel like doorbird deserves more attention.

eager pelican Dec 2, 2019, 3:06 AM

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Thinking about Florins Z-Wave front door sensor... Right now I'm using a bodes 2.4 megahertz sensors and pretty much swap them out replacing Z-Wave aeotec sensors because they just work so much better. Pretty much my design philosophy would be to use a bode an abode sensor is to secure the perimeter of the home and then use Z-Wave devices for the interior or non-critical sensors like for the mailbox

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That's hilarious about setting up the Christmas features the trigger when is Christmas season so that they come back next year without any effort

subtle quail Dec 2, 2019, 3:30 AM

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@eager pelican that's not pinned to any particular version. it would be up to someone in the community contributing the changes.

eager pelican Dec 2, 2019, 3:35 AM

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Hmmm well if it's not done in a year then my coding experience might be up to snuff by then

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I put my UPS on a smart switch so I can do a little electrical load shifting with it (what's the name of the podcast as I'm driving down the road)

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Errt listening to

eager pelican Dec 2, 2019, 4:29 AM

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Listening a few episodes back, does that mean if I'm using Plex for over-the-air television I still need a internet access to use it? Yikes.

long cedar Dec 3, 2019, 1:02 PM

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@eager pelican Just for PlexPass (pay lifetime fee) and then it can all be local

eager pelican Dec 3, 2019, 1:15 PM

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Ok good that's what I'd did but as the podcast talks about, I haven't used Plex without internet to test it

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I live in a rural area where internet is not always good quality, so it makes local smart all the more important

pulsar sinew Dec 3, 2019, 2:03 PM

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@eager pelican you'll probably want to disable auth for local Plex clients: https://support.plex.tv/articles/200430283-network/

eager pelican Dec 3, 2019, 2:47 PM

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plusone

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I think I'm going to be able to build another smart home based on the spare parts I've accumulated from this project

blazing prawn Dec 3, 2019, 9:36 PM

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Also depends on what you're running Plex on as well. The LG WebOS TV requires an internet for all apps to start, even once installed. So that means you can't open the Plex app on that TV without an internet connection.

pulsar sinew Dec 3, 2019, 9:45 PM

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sounds like a WebOS limitation rather than Plex itself. as far as I understand the Plex authentication can be set up to remove the need for internet access.

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i believe that the player must connect at least once first with internet access, though

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if your Plex server has been "claimed"

blazing prawn Dec 3, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Yes it can, although it is a PITA to do if you don't have internet access (I found out the hard way)

Even after enabling local authentication to my Plex server, my Roku could then access my server, and tell me what shows I had to watch. But when I attempted to play them, it would get a "codec error". I suspect this is an issue with the time being incorrect on the Roku, as you can't set the time without an internet connection

pulsar sinew Dec 3, 2019, 9:48 PM

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seems the moral of the story is that everything breaks without internets

blazing prawn Dec 3, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Unfortunately yes 😦

subtle quail Dec 3, 2019, 9:49 PM

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these days at least

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most everything assumes you have some sort of connection

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#bringbacktitle2

terse shoal Dec 13, 2019, 11:42 AM

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No podcast for this release?

sick mango Dec 13, 2019, 1:09 PM

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Podcasts are every two weeks. Releases every three. Sometimes they coincide.

sour pebble Dec 13, 2019, 1:43 PM

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@sick mango at least the lat three ones have followed hass release schedule

sick mango Dec 13, 2019, 1:48 PM

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Really? Wow. I'm out of touch.

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Maybe that's why I'm always surprised when there's a new release...

lapis inlet Dec 13, 2019, 1:55 PM

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@sick mango It was announced in the last podcast (at the end) that this one would be a couple of days after the release. It is recorded tomorrow.

obtuse mesa Dec 13, 2019, 4:07 PM

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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

eternal oyster Dec 13, 2019, 5:18 PM

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Good to know, I can stop checking every 5 mins now.

queen mirage Dec 13, 2019, 10:05 PM

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https://news.cision.com/f-secure/r/smart-lock-s-security-issues-leave-open-doors-for-attackers,c2987851

blazing prawn Dec 14, 2019, 6:07 AM

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Yep we're running on Island time this release as @flat ivy has been away in Hawai'i 🌴

flat ivy Dec 14, 2019, 6:41 AM

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Haha yes this one is a little late! My fault, sorry (but like..not really since I was on vacay) 🙂

queen mirage Dec 14, 2019, 11:49 AM

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include: aloha.yaml

lapis inlet Dec 15, 2019, 4:07 PM

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https://hasspodcast.io/ha060/

Home Assistant Podcast

admin

Home Assistant Podcast 60 – 0.103, Sonos takes over Snips and en...

Rohan and Phil and joined by Frenck to discuss the Sonos takeover of Snips, and the final release of 2019

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🎉

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Thanks for having me guys! That was fun!

frosty jay Dec 15, 2019, 4:11 PM

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❤️ need to resist listening to podcast until my commute tomorrow...

tepid vapor Dec 15, 2019, 5:18 PM

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In relation to Sonos and local use, I got a Sonos to play with recently and while the hardware is damn good, getting it to play from a local library is absolutely horrible. SMBv1 in 2019? Really?

blazing prawn Dec 15, 2019, 9:47 PM

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@tepid vapor yup. Sonos is great at its multiroom audio. Its integrations with cloud streaming services are awesome, but the local music selection sucks

crystal bolt Dec 15, 2019, 10:44 PM

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You have a sonos @blazing prawn ? Do you listen to radio content, or your own....I've just been looking for FM replacements.

blazing prawn Dec 15, 2019, 10:47 PM

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I sure do @crystal bolt

I have one in every room basically. My TV also has the Playbar and Sub, which sounds awesome.

Sonos has a great integration with Tunein, and I've found it better to listen to local radio via that than FM

crystal bolt Dec 15, 2019, 10:48 PM

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to me it seems like radio companies haven't really thought past FM (dab isn't popular over here on the East island).

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My main issue is I have 3 sets of speakers built into my walls

blazing prawn Dec 15, 2019, 10:48 PM

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DAB isn't popular here either

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For those, you could use a Sonos connect amp

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Which will allow those speakers to be part of the Sonos network

crystal bolt Dec 15, 2019, 10:49 PM

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makes buying a play:3 a bit pointless, and the cost of a connect amp is dearer than a "proper" receiver

blazing prawn Dec 15, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Yeah that's the problem with Sonos 💰

crystal bolt Dec 15, 2019, 10:49 PM

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yeah, I've been looking at musiccast from yamaha, as I've always liked their hardware

blazing prawn Dec 15, 2019, 10:49 PM

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I only have the Play:1's because I can't justify spending bigger money on a Play 3 or 5

crystal bolt Dec 15, 2019, 10:50 PM

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I think that uses vtuner as well

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But I just found the top 40 station here, is 32kpbs aac.....

blazing prawn Dec 15, 2019, 10:50 PM

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ouch

crystal bolt Dec 15, 2019, 10:50 PM

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might be better in iheart radio....but I don;t think yamaha supports that. But I did find the .pls location once

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Maybe I'll just stick with fm.....

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if it ain't broke....

blazing prawn Dec 15, 2019, 10:51 PM

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that is something I should try to live by more 😉

crystal bolt Dec 15, 2019, 10:51 PM

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Just tie a blue tooth speaker around mine, my wife's and sons necks and be done with it....

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since the world seems to prefer the monstrosity that is bluetooth.

tepid vapor Dec 15, 2019, 11:01 PM

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@blazing prawn Lack of decent local library support was a dealbreaker for me. Ended up with Snapcast and Mopidy which HA makes easier to manage.

crystal bolt Dec 15, 2019, 11:02 PM

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I'm just looking again at volumio....Runs on a pi. And just found someone is trying to develop a bluetooth output plugin to send to all those bluetooth speakers infesting the planet.

tepid vapor Dec 15, 2019, 11:06 PM

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@crystal bolt I have a Pi Zero talking BT to a JVC Hifi here. Using Alsa and Bluez.

crystal bolt Dec 15, 2019, 11:07 PM

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I did wonder about doing somethign like that....one of the other use cases I have, it to replace my clock radio....there are very few wifi ones (not including the privacy wonders that are Alexa/Google powered), but many bluetooth....I wondered about driving the bluetooth part of it via a pi.

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with bluez, can you multi cast, or is a single connection?

tepid vapor Dec 15, 2019, 11:11 PM

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I've had a JBL BT speaker and headset hooked up to my laptop previously with Bluez, and one your told the laptop to send audio to both it worked.

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Biggest limit will probably be BT bandwidth.

crystal bolt Dec 15, 2019, 11:12 PM

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if only google kept the chromecast audio....

tepid vapor Dec 15, 2019, 11:12 PM

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I've currently go Pi Zero with DACs behind various speakers around the house. Snapcast looks after the sync.

crystal bolt Dec 15, 2019, 11:13 PM

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so DIY multiroom audio?

tepid vapor Dec 15, 2019, 11:13 PM

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Only issue I had was the Pi talking BT to the JVC as there's a slight latency, but that's configurable in Snapcast

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Yup.

crystal bolt Dec 15, 2019, 11:14 PM

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how do you interface with it to tell it what to do?

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HA?

tepid vapor Dec 15, 2019, 11:14 PM

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Driving it with Mopidy, which gives proper local library support, and will also talk to things like Spotify

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Yup, HA. The only crappy part is that setting up groups can be "interesting", but I've only had to do it once.

crystal bolt Dec 15, 2019, 11:15 PM

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so it works on the aconcept of a server and various slaves?

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like squeezebox used too?

tepid vapor Dec 15, 2019, 11:16 PM

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Yup, snapserver, and multiple snapclient.

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Pro tip: Make sure to give the clients a decent host-id before they ever connect to the server. Makes management a lot easier 🙂

crystal bolt Dec 15, 2019, 11:17 PM

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so the pi clients, are just a pi, and a usb dac, or do you run a shield style one? And then you could just bung it into any old speaker.

tepid vapor Dec 15, 2019, 11:18 PM

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Shield style DAC with matching case. Nice and compact and can velcro to the back of normal speakers.

crystal bolt Dec 15, 2019, 11:18 PM

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do you have the link of one handy?

tepid vapor Dec 15, 2019, 11:19 PM

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https://thepihut.com/products/hifiberry-dac-zero These are the ones I'm using.

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Single change to the config.txt in raspbian, and they just work.

crystal bolt Dec 15, 2019, 11:19 PM

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I haven an aversion for spending $1000 per amp to run my existing speakers. And haven;t really found a solution.

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maybe I'll just DIY it myself

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what is the output of a hifi berry line output, not amplified?

tepid vapor Dec 15, 2019, 11:22 PM

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One of the lads at work has the HifiBerry with digital out (Optical and Coax) and seemingly they work just as well.

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It's jut line out.

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I'm using active speakers.

crystal bolt Dec 15, 2019, 11:24 PM

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So for passive speakers we'd want: https://thepihut.com/collections/raspberry-pi-hats/products/justboom-amp-zero-phat ? THat has the amplifier bit, but trying ot figure out if it is drivable by software

tepid vapor Dec 15, 2019, 11:25 PM

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No idea, I stuck with the line out and active speakers as I already had them available.

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In one room I'm using old Studio monitors 😄

long herald Dec 16, 2019, 1:02 PM

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@lapis inlet Looked at these? Motor + rail https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32864093167.html

lapis inlet Dec 16, 2019, 1:04 PM

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@long herald Yes!

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They are on my wish-list actually, Main issue is, I haven't found a supplier that can deliver me 11 meters

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😦

long herald Dec 16, 2019, 1:06 PM

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And they can't be extended I'm guessing? So that you can buy several. I haven't really looked at exactly how they work

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Then there's switchbot curtain thingy, but that's ble and also not on the market yet...

lapis inlet Dec 16, 2019, 1:07 PM

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Those pull/push kinda things won't work on those lengths

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to heavy

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so I need a belt based system (like those Xiaomi curtains).

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shortening a belt... sure... but extending it, is always an issue

long herald Dec 16, 2019, 1:09 PM

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Of course. With that length maybe the only option is a system for commercial spaces, and then I'm also guessing the price is waaay higher

lapis inlet Dec 16, 2019, 1:11 PM

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Yep, got some quotes, which... well... I will not automate my curtains in that case 😛

oak summit Dec 16, 2019, 3:18 PM

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Question is ? Will it work with deconz 🤔

lapis inlet Dec 16, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Yes

queen mirage Dec 16, 2019, 3:32 PM

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Lolol I just started listening to the latest podcast, and I have never heard @lapis inlet speak before, but he has a sexy radio station voice, like smooooooth sexy jazz fm 😂

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uwuHeart

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Which is very different from the regular guests, the sound quality on the call ins are sometime like a pc speaker recording of a satellite phone ThonkEyes

lapis inlet Dec 16, 2019, 3:35 PM

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LOL 😄

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Thanks!

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Having good connection and equipment helps in this case 😉

queen mirage Dec 16, 2019, 3:36 PM

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That deep baritone that your mic picks up ThinkEyes

lapis inlet Dec 16, 2019, 3:36 PM

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Oh wait, not true, my mic track was recorded locally on my machine

queen mirage Dec 16, 2019, 3:36 PM

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That would help a lot probably

lapis inlet Dec 16, 2019, 3:36 PM

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But I assume that is true for other guests as well 🤷‍♂️

queen mirage Dec 16, 2019, 3:37 PM

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Not sure, I remember one of the guests sounded like he was out at sea through a CB radio and just got hit by a hurricane ThonkEyes

vast crest Dec 16, 2019, 3:38 PM

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The one on the boat?

queen mirage Dec 16, 2019, 3:38 PM

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No, was another one 😂

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We want @vast crest for the next episode btw @blazing prawn @flat ivy 😛

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No use inviting @forest cosmos because the galifreyan to English translator isn't accurate enough, it'll just end up insulting multiple galaxies 🤷

stable walrusBOT Dec 16, 2019, 3:51 PM

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Tinkerer is away for 18h 30m 33s with a message :point_right: Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.

obtuse mesa Dec 16, 2019, 6:47 PM

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@lapis inlet the state of your HA instance rang true with me...a constant state of development/not ready 😜

lapis inlet Dec 16, 2019, 6:47 PM

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😄 Yeah, actually I feel a bit ashamed about it... but it is what it is

obtuse mesa Dec 16, 2019, 6:50 PM

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My wife constantly shakes her head at me when I'm working on HA 🤣 I've lost her confidence at this point. Too many times where lights didn't work because I was testing something or a flood of notifications to her phone, etc

tepid vapor Dec 16, 2019, 8:26 PM

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@lapis inlet You need a second house for a CI/CD pipeline 😉

lapis inlet Dec 16, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Rofl 🙂

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I'm actually slowly setting up a test bench

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So I can stop using my home as one 😛

flat ivy Dec 16, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Haha how cool would that be? A home assistant test house!

tepid vapor Dec 16, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Could be a goal for 2.0! A test house for CI/CD 🙂

lapis inlet Dec 16, 2019, 10:04 PM

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I might be able to pull of a Home Assistant test shed..

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I'm pretty sure at that point, the misses will force me to move my bed into the shed as well mcatScared

crystal bolt Dec 17, 2019, 12:45 AM

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Test dog box....nice work.

torpid mortar Dec 17, 2019, 1:21 AM

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Wonderful last episode of the year, guys. You are such a valuable part of this community and I appreciate you. PS, @lapis inlet’s voice is like a wonderful mixture of hot coffee, molten lava, and the voice of God. 🤩

blazing prawn Dec 17, 2019, 6:16 AM

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Thank you @torpid mortar We appreciate all your work on Hass too. I see your name in the release notes every...single...release!

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Also yes, damn you @lapis inlet and your awesome voice. Showing us up

lapis inlet Dec 17, 2019, 6:42 AM

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Thank you @torpid mortar!

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I’m sorry @blazing prawn 😦

flat ivy Dec 20, 2019, 6:04 AM

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I know i feel like i sound like a twerp in comparison!

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and thanks for the kind words @torpid mortar!

queen mirage Dec 26, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Should be fun to build a scale model house, with a monopoly piece on rails that could activate motion and bt sensors

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And just attach ZigBee radios to regular 5mm led diodes

zinc trench Dec 27, 2019, 3:59 AM

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New subscriber here. Thanks!

blazing prawn Dec 27, 2019, 6:43 AM

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Thank you @zinc trench

eager pelican Jan 1, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Are they saying Jaml? With regard to the automation editor?

eager pelican Jan 1, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Hmmm live stream video recordings eh?

eager pelican Jan 1, 2020, 1:57 AM

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So Phil... Landscape lighting for renters.... A standard solar panel is 1m x 1.6m which would provide plenty of power but would stoll need to be wired out to the lights

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So would you have a problem digging up the yard for those wires, assuming you had a central power box out in the yard?

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Or do you really need the power generated at each individual light location and so you would need a really small solar panel and so you get back into those crappy systems you were discussing

blazing prawn Jan 1, 2020, 2:44 AM

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@eager pelican yeah digging up the yard probably isn't ideal. But I guess I could instead use them in the garage or something

eager pelican Jan 1, 2020, 4:31 AM

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Well you need a landscape lighting system with a swappable battery and charging station

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You could get a nest haha

viscid palm Jan 2, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Suggestion that you interview @Quindor from intermit.tech . He was recently on the selfhosted podcast, creates the awesome Quinled boards and runs a YouTube channel with views that I believe is fairly aligned with the hosts😁

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He can be found on this discord https://discordapp.com/invite/abk5kuD

blazing prawn Jan 2, 2020, 9:27 PM

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Thanks @viscid palm

lunar sail Jan 4, 2020, 5:39 AM

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Just wondering, anyone else having issues with the hasspodcast.io page?

blazing prawn Jan 4, 2020, 5:39 AM

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Yep, working on getting it fixed ASAP sorry @lunar sail

lunar sail Jan 4, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Ahhh, sweet. Just good to know it's not only me, for a change. 😂

blazing prawn Jan 4, 2020, 5:40 AM

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😄

blazing prawn Jan 5, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Hi everyone!

We're getting ready for 2020 and the first recording for the podcast is fast approaching. We've got a bit of an awkward recording time coming up, so if you're available on Friday 10/1 at 12pm GMT and would like to come on as a guest to tell @flat ivy and I about your smart home set up, please reach out to me via DM or feedback@hasspodcast.io

queen mirage Jan 5, 2020, 10:27 AM

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PedoBearD

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New podcasts

tepid vapor Jan 6, 2020, 9:10 AM

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Did something change on the RSS feed? Suddenly had more to listen to than expected.

blazing prawn Jan 6, 2020, 9:11 AM

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Hey @tepid vapor we had some downtime which I've noticed higher downloads. But no new episodes.

Did you get a whole bunch of new episodes or something?

tepid vapor Jan 6, 2020, 10:02 AM

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Something changed that meant I saw old episodes as new. Just checked and I'm seeing doubles when I view played episodes. Will check to see what difference may have caused my player to see them as new.

tepid vapor Jan 6, 2020, 10:21 AM

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URLs the same, but seeing a difference of a single second in duration. Possibly why my player, Podcast Addict, saw them as new distinct episodes.

blazing prawn Jan 6, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Thanks @tepid vapor that is quite strange indeed. I manually enter the times of the episodes so they appear everywhere. Wonder if for some reason they manually updated themselves somewhere.

At least we have an explanation for the extra "listens" over the weekend1 Cheers

arctic torrent Jan 8, 2020, 9:41 AM

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Would be nice with a episode that covers appdeamon 🙂

queen mirage Jan 8, 2020, 11:44 AM

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getting ahead of time for once... starting my HA integrated greenhouse projects NOW

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still waiting for you to interview someone who has done this to a full extent that I can copy ideas from 🤣

median lodge Jan 8, 2020, 8:12 PM

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and we're waiting for you so we can steal/borrow from YOU

queen mirage Jan 8, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Oh snap

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Yikes

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Hopefully I will get most of it done by march

median lodge Jan 8, 2020, 9:01 PM

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I'll make sure to have the new tunnel ready 😉

tepid vapor Jan 8, 2020, 10:08 PM

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@queen mirage They'll hold back HA 1.0 until you can supply the components for the Greenhouse Project...

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No pressure!

queen mirage Jan 8, 2020, 10:14 PM

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NukeFacePalm

torpid mortar Jan 11, 2020, 7:45 PM

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@arctic torrent It’s probably due for a refresh, but episode #5 covered AppDaemon.

crystal bolt Jan 12, 2020, 6:35 PM

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more an IOS question than HA Podcast, but looks like the HA podcast publishing changed, and it's loaded all of last years episode as unread. Anypme know a way of actually killing them off short of re-listening to them? The rue the day Apple got rid of the mark as played slider.

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Deleting them from unplayed and most recent, they'll reappear next time it updates.

tepid vapor Jan 12, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Get a nicer player where you can mark episodes old than episode X as listened. Personally using Podcast Addict on Android, not sure what's on Apple.

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I would consider that basic functionality on any player 🙂

crystal bolt Jan 12, 2020, 9:09 PM

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I did look at pocket casts, but there was something about it I didn't like, an dI can't remember what. I have a bunch of self hosted as well (converted youtube vids) maybe it was them....

last gate Jan 12, 2020, 9:10 PM

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pocket cast has been updated

vast crest Jan 12, 2020, 9:11 PM

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I just use Spotify 😅

crystal bolt Jan 12, 2020, 9:11 PM

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ewww, not keen on that answer as all....that or iheart or plex....or any of those apps that have decided oh, I'll do podcasts now.

vast crest Jan 12, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Works for me 🤷

crystal bolt Jan 12, 2020, 9:14 PM

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I think my first issue with most of them is the directory is really empty for local (ie NZ) content.

uncut salmon Jan 15, 2020, 12:10 AM

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https://youtu.be/IIYmkKapoqM

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Thought this was interesting

cobalt kite Jan 15, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Can someone tell me- Is there a podcast for home assistant? Im sorry if this is a stupid question. Ive only been engaged with this project for a couple of weeks. A podcast would be cool to listen to, but i have no idea how to get to it. Can someone give me a hand with a link or some other info?

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found it

forest cosmos Jan 15, 2020, 8:18 PM

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.topic @cobalt kite

stable walrusBOT Jan 15, 2020, 8:18 PM

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The topic of this channel is:

@cobalt kite HASS Podcast: https://hasspodcast.io/

forest cosmos Jan 15, 2020, 8:18 PM

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I know you've found it already now, but the channel topics often have relevant information 😉

tepid vapor Jan 15, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Another really really good podcast I've found recently: https://oxide.computer/blog/categories/on-the-metal/

limber nimbus Jan 17, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Not sure this is really the place for this. If not please advise.
I have a scrape sensor that pulls the latest version of hasspodcast from http://hasspodcast.io/feed/podcast
Unfortunately I now get this:
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /feed/podcast on this server.

Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

Only happens if I access from my home network (eth or wifi). Could I have been blocked or banned? If so how do I request unblocking please?

stable walrusBOT Jan 17, 2020, 2:31 PM

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The topic of this channel is:

HASS Podcast: https://hasspodcast.io/

subtle quail Jan 17, 2020, 2:32 PM

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since that has nothing to do with the podcast, i'd say you're definitely in the wrong room

limber nimbus Jan 17, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Thanks, any idea where i should raise this then? The scrape sensor works fine (well worked until I got blocked) so I'm not looking for assistance on that side. I would have thought the owners of hasspodcast.io would be able to confirm and possibly assist in removing the block? In the meantime I've removed the scrape sensor in case the block comes from querying the URL too often and I'll try again in a few days...

subtle quail Jan 17, 2020, 2:51 PM

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read the channel topics

forest cosmos Jan 17, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Odds are you'd need to reach whoever hosts that site, which is likely nobody here

limber nimbus Jan 17, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Thanks for trying. I'll give it a few days and hopefully the block gets lifted.

dusk compass Jan 17, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Would love an episode where you discuss the recent competion of opening up protocols (zwave, zigbee) and how this will influence IOT products and home assistant

eager pelican Jan 18, 2020, 3:52 AM

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@blazing prawn I haven't heard a podcast yet that really focused in on energy controls but that's what I'm doing with home assistant and I be happy too talk about it whenever you need the fill in a gap.

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I thought the most recent podcast was exceptional by the way.

blazing prawn Jan 18, 2020, 6:06 AM

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@limber nimbus can you PM me your IP address?

We had an IP address which was requesting our Podcast feed too much recently (I think once every minute) which our host advised us to block. I have a suspicion that might be you.

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Thanks @eager pelican I'll reach out to you directly, as that sounds very interesting to talk about!

mossy dune Jan 19, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Hey @blazing prawn , just heard on the podcast that you moved from Zigbee2mqtt to Deconz... can you give any insight on why you did this? And how your experience was?

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Thanks!

blazing prawn Jan 19, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Hey @mossy dune sure.

For me I have a bunch of Osram MR16 light bulbs, which I added support for to zigbee2mqtt. Although the function of the lights was fine, they didn't act as routers on the network. As these were placed all over my house, they were the ideal candidates for routing.

I had a lot of issues with routing in general. I ended up trying a CC2501 stick with an external antenna to try increase the range, but this still wasn't good enough. I needed to end up having three Zigbee networks in my house, one at either end of the house and one in the middle. This was 2 x zigbee2mqtt networks, and 1 x Osram Lightify network.

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I tried all of the firmwares available for Zigbee2mqtt, dev branches, routing special firmware etc. Unfortunately for me nothing helped

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Moving over to Deconz has been amazing. The UI is lacking, but I have Xiaomi sensors all over the house which can easily be read thanks to all my Hue and Osram lights now acting as routers correctly. I even have a vibration sensor in the mailbox, which then routes via a lightbulb outside back through to the kitchen in the middle of the house where the deconz USB is.

Just last week, I finally moved everything completely over to the single Deconz stick. So I've gone from 3 zigbee networks down to 1 super Zigbee nework, which was my initial hope for zigbee2mqttt.

mossy dune Jan 19, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Wow that’s amazing

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I’ve got cloud hubs right now, Xiaomi and Hue

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Have just invested in a stick for Z2M but having heard podcast and read a few articles am wondering if Deconz would have been a better move

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I guess I’ll try it and see how it goes now that I’ve bought in!

forest cosmos Jan 19, 2020, 10:00 PM

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The joys of Zigbee is that in theory routers don't care about the software you're using, and Phil's experience says that the reality of Zigbee is different 😄

blazing prawn Jan 19, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Yeah for sure try it out. Depending on your house size it might be fine.

If it is an issue, then you can do like me and upgrade to the Deconz later. There is some "router" firmware you can apparently put on the sticks and then pair with Deconz, allowing to use those USB sticks as routers for your Deconz network so they're not a complete waste

forest cosmos Jan 19, 2020, 10:02 PM

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I've had no issues with coverage and Z2M, but I've got a typically sized UK house, with plasterboard/drywall walls

blazing prawn Jan 19, 2020, 10:02 PM

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My main gripe with Zigbee has always been that unfortunately. With z-wave they have device classes so different manufacturers know what to speak to each other. But with Zigbee, that's open to interpretation, which can create silos like Xiaomi and Philips being incompatible

forest cosmos Jan 19, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Or worse, sort of compatible

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https://community.hubitat.com/t/xiaomi-aqara-devices-pairing-keeping-them-connected/623 makes an interesting read

blazing prawn Jan 19, 2020, 10:03 PM

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oh dear

forest cosmos Jan 19, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Yeah

mossy dune Jan 19, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Ah that’s helpful, good to know they wouldn’t go to waste @blazing prawn

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I’m in a UK new build @forest cosmos so not much to block the signal 😂

stable walrusBOT Jan 19, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Tinkerer is away for 1m 22s with a message :point_right: Assuming makes an ass out of you and Ming…and Ming the Merciless does not like to be made an ass of.

tepid vapor Jan 21, 2020, 12:42 PM

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https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/01/smart-homes-will-turn-dumb-overnight-as-charter-kills-security-service/

crystal bolt Jan 21, 2020, 7:13 PM

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https://twitter.com/therealfitz/status/1219656757242474496 A topic for the podcast @blazing prawn

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as yet another reason to avoid some cloud controls

blazing prawn Jan 21, 2020, 9:50 PM

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@crystal bolt holy crap. It certainly is that time of year 😦

crystal bolt Jan 21, 2020, 9:53 PM

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yeah, I was looking at sonos for multiroom audio though....but will probably end up building my own volumio based solution The software is easy. but I need to figure out the prettying hardware (ie a nice speaker box to house it)

blazing prawn Jan 21, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Yeah this is seriously going to make me think twice before I consider adding new Sonos devices now

crystal bolt Jan 21, 2020, 9:58 PM

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you have some right? I guess as long as you can maintain local control of it outside the app, then they shouldn't stop working (you'd hope)

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they need some sort of sunset app, or variation on the api, for discontinued devices.

blazing prawn Jan 21, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Yeah I have Play:1, a Playbar, Sub and some Play:Ones. The really concerning part is that if you are using an older model on your network, all newer models won't get new features

crystal bolt Jan 21, 2020, 9:59 PM

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yeah that's really odd, and a stupid decision from them.

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No-ones hacked a sonos yet have they, to put an aftermarket firmware on it?

blazing prawn Jan 21, 2020, 10:01 PM

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From a tech point of view it makes sense if the new features rely on local hardware. For example an improved sycning capability etc. However if it isn't mission critical, it should be fine.

For example my Play:One's are AirPlay compatible., My Play:1's are not. But I can airplay to a Play:1 and then group in a Play:1 or even the whole house without issue

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Nope no hacks yet

crystal bolt Jan 21, 2020, 10:01 PM

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bit more motivation now I guess... 😄

tepid vapor Jan 21, 2020, 11:03 PM

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@crystal bolt I tried some Sonos kit and got rid of it. I have a very large and well curated collection of music, a lot of which is not available on streaming services. The only local file store Sonos supports is SMBv1 which even Microsoft have stopped supporting.

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Already had some decent speakers available, so I've got Mopidy on the same server as my HomeAssistant playing into Snapcast, and a few Pi Zero with DACs around the house as Snap Clients.

crystal bolt Jan 21, 2020, 11:05 PM

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what is the mopidy client? is it ui based like volumio?

tepid vapor Jan 21, 2020, 11:06 PM

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All controlable from HomeAssistant.

crystal bolt Jan 21, 2020, 11:06 PM

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ie does mopidy include a ui, or is it just a command line like mpd?

tepid vapor Jan 21, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Using MPDroid on my phone, and Cantata on my Linux Laptop.

crystal bolt Jan 21, 2020, 11:06 PM

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so it's more a headless comand to run

tepid vapor Jan 21, 2020, 11:07 PM

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There's multiple web UIs available depending on your needs, and unlike MPD, it can connect to streaming services like Spotify.

crystal bolt Jan 21, 2020, 11:07 PM

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I got a suptronic x400 dac, but it doesn't run on a pi zero for some reason, so having to build mine on a pi 3+

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the pi zero doesn't see it

tepid vapor Jan 21, 2020, 11:09 PM

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I'm using the HifiBerrys, and they just work.

crystal bolt Jan 21, 2020, 11:09 PM

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I like volumio cos it's just a image to burn on like hass.io, and it has the ui, nas support, dac support and plugins for spotify etc.

tepid vapor Jan 21, 2020, 11:09 PM

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Only issue has been my horrible soldering!

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Haven't come across Volumio.

crystal bolt Jan 21, 2020, 11:10 PM

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volumio.org

tepid vapor Jan 21, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Running Raspbian with SnapClient installed. Single config file to point it at the SnapServer and give it a nsme.

crystal bolt Jan 21, 2020, 11:11 PM

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basically all the same stuff you have, but bundled with a web ui and plug an dplay...

tepid vapor Jan 21, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Server is Debian running a few services.

crystal bolt Jan 21, 2020, 11:11 PM

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but I need to get the snapserver bit going, the plugin didn't install for me properly...

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I think this is why I didn't get a hifiberry: https://www.hifiberry.com/shop/boards/miniamp/ only 3 amps.

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I wanted the built in amp and speaker temrinals.

tepid vapor Jan 21, 2020, 11:14 PM

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I'm using active speakers with amps built in. Except in the living room where it's treated as a component in a hifi system.

crystal bolt Jan 21, 2020, 11:15 PM

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Yeah i was going to stuff a pi and amp insude an old center speaker....but it doesn't fit....so I might look at building a speaker box. I got this board: http://www.suptronics.com/Xseries/x400.html

tepid vapor Jan 21, 2020, 11:19 PM

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I'm using various AudioEngine speakers https://audioengineusa.com/ Decent speakers with the amps built in. I think the main ones I use are 75w a side.

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Have a set of Tannoy Reveal 5 in one room, retired from a studio :)

crystal bolt Jan 21, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Where is the pi zero? Sitting on top, or mounted at the rear?

tepid vapor Jan 21, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Velcroed to the rear.

crystal bolt Jan 21, 2020, 11:21 PM

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so they're essentially fancy computer speakers? amplified and take a couple of inputs?

tepid vapor Jan 21, 2020, 11:21 PM

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There's USB "charging" ports on the rear which happily power tge zeros.

crystal bolt Jan 21, 2020, 11:22 PM

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ahh cool, was just about to ask that

tepid vapor Jan 21, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Yup. Decent quality, and can be got relatively cheap.

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Mine are ex-demo from a local store.

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One set are the Wireless model which can be connected via Bluetooth.

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Does work with the zero, but adds silly latency. 10cm Phono cables don't have the same buffer bloat!

tepid vapor Jan 23, 2020, 12:26 PM

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Just spotted https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/01/smart-scale-goes-dumb-as-under-armour-pulls-the-plug-on-connected-tech/

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How long before companies releasing this type of hardware start considering it good practice to put the software support into open source escrow. At least then if they get tired of supporting it, if it's popular there will be people willing to get it going again.

golden ermine Jan 27, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Good day legends of the HA Podcast,
I was wondering if I could draw upon your collective experience.
I am in the process of replacing my home alarm and one of the recommendations by the installer is to go the paradox route with the IP150 to connect to the outside world.
Having a look at the HA forums, there seems to be an integration but only up to a certain point in firmware. I am hesitant to keep the firmware back (especially with something that is internet based and as critical as a security system is) and was wondering if anyone perhaps had any luck running it fully patched and integrated with HA?

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For context: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/paradox-alarm-mqtt-hassio-addon/38569

crystal bolt Jan 27, 2020, 10:47 PM

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There's another project, https://github.com/ParadoxAlarmInterface/pai which I believe will work with the newer firmwares - and then you use mqtt for communication with HA (I use this project, and have used the other paradoxip150v2 that the hassio project is based on)

golden ermine Jan 28, 2020, 7:36 AM

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Thank you so much @crystal bolt that looks like it will solve e'rything!

sour pebble Jan 29, 2020, 10:17 PM

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New podcast prior to release, this is madness

blazing prawn Jan 29, 2020, 10:17 PM

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😄

urban pasture Feb 1, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Great spotlight episode with Alex!

blazing prawn Feb 2, 2020, 2:52 AM

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Thanks @urban pasture!

ripe violet Feb 2, 2020, 5:25 AM

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@blazing prawn @flat ivy, sorry to bug you but do you know where I can download that self hosted speed test that you talked about on the spotlight episode. I can’t seem to find it

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Great episode by the way

blazing prawn Feb 2, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Ah interesting. I think there was one listed in the show notes perhaps?

flat ivy Feb 2, 2020, 5:54 AM

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Have a look at Linux-server.io

tepid vapor Feb 2, 2020, 8:06 AM

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I believe it was https://github.com/librespeed/speedtest

ripe violet Feb 3, 2020, 12:15 AM

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yup I was just going to let you know I found it

violet scaffold Feb 6, 2020, 1:16 AM

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@blazing prawn any idea why the new episode still doesn't show up in the rss feed?

blazing prawn Feb 6, 2020, 1:16 AM

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@violet scaffold a fantastic question!

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That should be resolved @violet scaffold not sure why but the cache didn't clear on it for some reason :/

violet scaffold Feb 6, 2020, 1:25 AM

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thanks for that

eager pelican Feb 7, 2020, 2:57 AM

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im a little concerned about a sonos set-up where we really needed more amps for multi-zone in-ceiling speakers

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we ended up getting an old version amp for one less important room that still needed its own zone

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so now the sonos updates will be dubious at best

obtuse mesa Feb 7, 2020, 1:54 PM

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@blazing prawn @flat ivy That was a fun podcast to listen to! John, I'm assuming @eager pelican 😉 thanks for sharing!

flat ivy Feb 7, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Thanks! Yes it was mr solar himself haha

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Lol @eager pelican I know that’s not your name but you will forever be known as mr solar - at least to me 😄

eager pelican Feb 7, 2020, 9:23 PM

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You know right we recorded my air conditioner stopped working and I thought great, I can't even automate my thermostat without causing damage, but it turns out it was a clogged vent. Had fun. Happy to answer solar questions.

eager pelican Feb 7, 2020, 10:05 PM

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well im off to get an ssl certificate

blazing prawn Feb 7, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Let's encrypt FTW

eager pelican Feb 7, 2020, 10:35 PM

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there we go

tepid vapor Feb 7, 2020, 11:01 PM

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At this point I've even using Let's Encrypt for internal stuff with DNS verification. Easier than running my own CA 😄

fringe pond Feb 8, 2020, 2:06 PM

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I need to set that up

flat ivy Feb 8, 2020, 5:37 PM

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At this point I've even using Let's Encrypt for internal stuff with DNS verification. Easier than running my own CA 😄
@tepid vapor 100% I do the same

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I've been meaning to use the cloudflare (my nameserver) API to automate that into a cron job

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if anyone's done that...lmk!

tepid vapor Feb 8, 2020, 7:34 PM

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I'm using good old fashioned RFC2136 dynamic updates.

proven stump Feb 10, 2020, 1:46 AM

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Is there any help needed with the podcast at all, or are you guys all set? I'm an audio engineer and may be able to offer my services if needed, depending on the time commitment. Never worked on a podcast before, but done plenty of music and radio work.

blazing prawn Feb 10, 2020, 6:14 AM

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Thanks @proven stump I think we're ok, but if you have any suggestions for us please feel free to shoot me a DM

eager pelican Feb 21, 2020, 4:29 AM

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guess what guys, I get to implement HA on a 110 person camp

blazing prawn Feb 21, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Nice @eager pelican

What presence detection method will you be using? 😉

eager pelican Feb 21, 2020, 4:30 AM

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that'll be a change order 😛

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the scope is power optimization

blazing prawn Feb 21, 2020, 4:31 AM

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very cool. What hardware is HA going to run on?

eager pelican Feb 21, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Well I really fucked up my first JDM ServerBuild, so I probably will get it right the second time around

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I'm telling you I did everything wrong you could possibly do and still have a working system

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you should not let it be the first time you build a computer, when the computer is running a 5000 sq ft house for a computer scientist

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but thankfully she is an exceptional client

blazing prawn Feb 21, 2020, 4:48 AM

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sounds like a very understanding one

eager pelican Feb 21, 2020, 4:48 AM

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yea

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I think it is a good idea to go with industrial grade hardware with the boot drive built into the chip board. It's really not that expensive. After the podcast I got some good unsolicited advice from another John C who steered me towards a couple interesting options.

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who actually lives like an hour away from me lol

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so maybe we will be freezing our butts off on site in two months

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but in this case, the real project is a solar battery rig that the onsite gennys can hook up to and make love, and HA servers are primarily to monitor things and show off

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as an audition of sorts

blazing prawn Feb 21, 2020, 4:52 AM

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sounds very cool

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will you be using HA as an interface for it?

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Ie using Lovelace for graphs etc?

eager pelican Feb 21, 2020, 4:53 AM

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I would consider HA as the prime software

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It might be that our energy monitors will be wifi and proprietary but there are already many options for that which have HA integrations

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right now I am using InfluxDB and Grafana which seems to be the best option, however I have been looking into the history (don't know the right word) within lovelace and HA, and I think that would be sufficient for real time monitoring

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and automation

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sometimes you need to educate the customer to not be distracted by fancy things they will only use once, and focus on "set it and forget it" capability

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the automations are just a custom template sensor that combines the consumption monitor entity

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so HA in this case will really be for monitoring and not controls

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we're gonna build a battery wall out of used EV batteries and add good quality solar components, and generator monitoring as the primary scope. But I hate keeping things simple. So I think by the end HA will be doing more than just monitoring.

restive holly Feb 21, 2020, 11:16 PM

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@eager pelican check PowerBi for reporting. You might need to switch to MySQL. Works great.

eager pelican Feb 24, 2020, 4:02 PM

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I have a fantem / ooomi smart switch wall plug (which is somehow also the same as Aeotec smart switch) that whenever I pair it, it does not reveal the node config options in the dropdown box.

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best guess I got is there might have been something wrong with it given it was an open box item and is no longer fantem /oomi branded but now the product is carried by aeotec. Posting to see if anyone else has run into the same thing. Everything is working fine except I was wanting to get it to report more frequently with more granularity to be able to track the energy use of the device I'm controlling.

forest cosmos Feb 26, 2020, 1:23 PM

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If that's a Z-Wave device, worth asking in #zwave-archived

queen mirage Feb 27, 2020, 7:58 AM

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Loving the self hosted spotlight so far, reminds me a lot about my own values and history, self hosting most since 1998 🤓

long herald Feb 27, 2020, 4:05 PM

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A note for the part about deconz linking the remote to the light, I do not think this still works when the Zigbee network is down. At least my ikea remotes and xiaomi buttons does not.

obtuse mesa Feb 27, 2020, 4:06 PM

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@long herald how did you bind the remote to the light? I've heard that the way that deconz does it is not the standard. In ZHA it is a direct bind, I believe

long herald Feb 27, 2020, 4:07 PM

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They are included to the Conbee stick and then bound through the deconz ui

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I was under the impression that the way for example ikea use the direct link between remote and light was the odd one out, not standard?

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That Zigbee doesn't have the direct linking in the same way as zwave has the associations

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I'm happy to be disproven though! Would be good redundancy

zealous heron Feb 27, 2020, 4:22 PM

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I haven't moved ikea off of the hub. If the hub has no power, the remote still works with the lights. So I assume as long as you don't "take control" of the remotes that would still hold?

lapis inlet Feb 27, 2020, 4:25 PM

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@long herald You can create actual zigbee bindings in the backend (VNC).

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which is what we are talking about in this case 🙂

long herald Feb 27, 2020, 4:31 PM

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oooh

granite skiff Feb 27, 2020, 4:51 PM

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@lapis inlet @long herald this could be done via web interface or rest api. When you add zll (ikea or philips) remotes deconz creates group where remote is part of it. You need only to add lights in this group. After adding deconz creates group bindings

sour pebble Feb 27, 2020, 6:53 PM

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@long herald @lapis inlet @obtuse mesa by adding devices to the remote control group in deconz you DO create a standalone multicast group, its really simple

queen mirage Mar 6, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Loving it @eager pelican

eager pelican Mar 6, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Next week I am using a Zooz Zwave relay control to game the battery inverter sell-back relay on an off-grid capable, but on-grid home. The utility has never had a solar array interconnected before and does not know how to implement their terrible buyback rate program (like 2.4 cents)

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the problem is grid-tied battery inverters only sell back at full throttle unless proprietary intelligence is applied

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The battery inverter backs up the whole house in an emergency on a manual switch, but otherwise the home is operating under the grid condition.

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so we need a good way to use the home's energy monitor to turn the battery inverter on and off, so that it can discharge a decent amount of power but not sell-back to the grid.

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The battery inverter accepts a 12V relay to mimic a grid outage

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so we are intercepting that with the Zooz and tying into the energy monitor so the battery inverter only operates when the home load is high, which improves the economics of the system.

desert briar Mar 7, 2020, 8:09 PM

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@lapis inlet this needs to be featured! https://www.facebook.com/groups/HomeAssistant/permalink/2597624533842234/

lapis inlet Mar 7, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Please submit it! 😄

desert briar Mar 7, 2020, 8:10 PM

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And this would be great podcast material too

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I will!

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5 ha instances

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All the proprietary controllers removed and replaced with sonoffs

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Metrics and measuring on everything for a huge aquarium set up

desert briar Mar 9, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Pour another one out and another one for the podcast - https://www.osram.com/cb/lightify/index.jsp (via @solar ingot )

zealous heron Mar 9, 2020, 4:21 PM

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one of the first smart lights I tried because they were available locally and they weren't Hue. The pairing process was terrible, color effects went unavailable on one bulb with no easy way to flash firmware down to a version that worked, and Lowe's stopped stocking more Osram Lightify products within weeks after I bought them. Surprised they lasted this long.

tepid vapor Mar 9, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Now long before it becomes fashionable to put the server side code for stuff like that into some form of Escrow service, and if the company goes bust or decides to stop stop supporting it, let it be released for the community to tear into.

sick mango Mar 9, 2020, 6:50 PM

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That might be the longest warning I've seen for closing a cloud service.

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*consumer targeting cloud service

crystal bolt Mar 9, 2020, 7:28 PM

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@blazing prawn Another service shutdown you can add to the podcast: https://www.osram.com/cb/lightify/index.jsp y

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doh....just saw it was posted above....

blazing prawn Mar 9, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Damn another paper weight in my cupboard. I am so glad I've moved to Deconz already

crystal bolt Mar 9, 2020, 8:30 PM

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I saw something about Gen 1 Hubs not being supported anymore as well

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gen 1 hue hubs

tepid vapor Mar 9, 2020, 10:15 PM

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I'm just waiting for Nest to end up on Killed By Google...

tranquil kernel Mar 10, 2020, 11:48 PM

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@crystal bolt The v1 hub will continue to work with Home Assistant as we use the local API. This is from a pinned message here https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/fee94a/philips_will_end_support_for_its_hue_bridge_v1_in/

blazing prawn Mar 11, 2020, 10:06 PM

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@crystal bolt we mentioned the Hue stuff back in episode 50. Shame to see even with the bad rap Sonos got that they're still holding course

violet scaffold Mar 13, 2020, 1:44 AM

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hey does anyone have a link to the home assistant release preview website? i remember going to it at something.home-assistant.io but i cant remember what that was