The Acolyte

[warm torrent]

But the spike head jumped to violence

[royal lake]

She just wanted to burn the diary and ended up setting fire to the wiring.

[warm torrent]

And the main mom hypnotized the padawan for no reason

Like for no reason at all she immediately jumped to violence

Also wtf is a disarming move against a smoke creature?

[bronze tinsel]

And then peaced out after saving NEITHER of her kids

[warm torrent]

Like I don't know what these witches want

Clearly something about the creation of these kids has them feeling guilty and secretive

So is it a bad thing or not?

And if not what was the harm?

[bronze tinsel]

The Jedi watched them partake in a dark side ritual and their leader also tried to blackmail Indara with her padawan

[warm torrent]

But even beyond that, why do it in the first place?

[royal lake]

They probably didn't know exactly what would count as "harm" for the Jedi and assumed the worst.

[bronze tinsel]

Probably. If it wasn't anything bad, why would horned mom go all violent immediately upon questioned?

[warm torrent]

Like what the hell is the motivation to create two children with the force?

[bronze tinsel]

Oh, this is small but...

The writers are cowards xD

They go "Oh, their M count..."

Say the word, SAY IT

SAY "MIDICHLORIANS" YOU COWARDS

[warm torrent]

I do think it's kinda funny everyone was like "that fire wouldn't have spread that quickly" but no it did

[bronze tinsel]

Eh.. the fire was the least of my issues, frankly

[warm torrent]

It's also hilarious that the Jedi killed exactly one witch and the rest of them kinda killed themselves

[bronze tinsel]

That's what I'm saying, that was so weird and even funny

[royal lake]

If the Jedi in their isolated religious group have a reputation for child kidnapping it was a justified reaction in their eyes. Almost like the Jedi reputation isn't uniformly good across all cultures and communities.

[bronze tinsel]

child kidnapping

What??

Nobody ever said that lol

Qui-Gon even was like: So, Anakin.. you can come, but being a Jedi is hard

[royal lake]

They seem to believe the Jedi just take the children with them.

[bronze tinsel]

Oh, ok ok

[warm torrent]

Everyone in the fan base seems to think that and so far the writers refuse to just show that

Like no matter what we're shown over and over and over and over again that the Jedi have good intentions, fair practices, and are the least strict aggressive major Force user group and yet we keep getting told that there's good reason to fear them

And like there is good reason to fear them

They just refuse to show it

[bronze tinsel]

It's like... the Witches heard they took children, so they recieve them with their weapons out and when questions about their creation they go full on kill mode.

[warm torrent]

The fact that Indara is mad at Sol, that she knows he made a mistake, that everyone understands that what they did is not the Jedi way, and their lie is only coming from trying to save Osha, just shows that they refuse to paint the actual Order as bad

The Council is okay, the Order is okay, their beliefs are all fine, it's just sometimes some Jedi mess up

[royal lake]

Or... hear me out: the issue is that the Jedi are not so much an order but an institution with authority and so people like Sol feel more entitled to just wreck shit for their self-righteous reasons.

[warm torrent]

Sol literally did one thing

He reacted to a lady turning into smoke with fear

And killed her when he shouldn't have

[royal lake]

He also let the kid climb and went with him rather than stop him

[warm torrent]

BECAUSE MAE WAS TRAPPING OSHA IN HER ROOM

AND MAE DISABLED THE ELEVATORS

AT THE ENCOURAGEMENT OF THE WITCHES

[royal lake]

Did he know about the first thing?

[warm torrent]

HE SAW THEM WITH THE FORCE VISION

[royal lake]

Ah, OK.

[warm torrent]

I'm not trying to get too mad here but like

[rose schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/kenan-thompson-kenan-thompson-snl-mmhmm-gif-704775788876592410

[warm torrent]

This is the second time I've had to remind someone of a very important detail in the show to illustrate why I think it's poorly written

And that's not on you

Or anyone here

But it makes me feel like I'm not even watching the same show

[rose schooner]

I really don’t know what people mean when they say this episode was brilliantly written

[royal lake]

Ambigous situations aren't necessarily poorly written.
There is also the problem that paranoia against institutions is not something everyone is exposed to, I'm Sicilian: here people DO NOT trust the state and often refuse to go to the police or do basic stuff just because the state says they should so while I'm not in their field I understand that kind of attitude because I've seen it multiple times with my own eyes.

[warm torrent]

I live in America man, some people here don't trust the government or police at all and there's good reason

[sly jackal]

Maybe the writing just sucks is that hard to decipher?

Honestly production ain’t bad now that I’m thinking ab it

[warm torrent]

I'm saying the show could illustrate that the Jedi are bad by comparing them to modern day situations where we see the police act out of hand and it'd be a strong analogy

[sly jackal]

But wtf is the writing here lmaoo

[rose schooner]

They’re just paying homage to George Lucas I guess

[bronze tinsel]

Bad writing... Torbin's motivation is weak. The witches fear of the Jedi feels barely explained and comes across as a missunderstanding at best, and as bad faith at worst. Why wouldn't a Knight like Sol go for disarmament instead of insta-kill? Why did horn Mom say "I'll die for my kids" then peaces out without saving either?

I like Indara

Too bad she died to a butter knife

[warm torrent]

But they aren't, like not to get into real world stuff too much but there was literally a situation where a police shot at a handcuffed person locked in his car dozens of times because an acorn fell next to him. That's why people are scared and critical of them, cause they are trigger happy and they aren't trained not to be. The Jedi do showcase over and over that they do have restraint, and the one time they show that Sol didn't they put him in the most confusing position to be in where the lady next to you screamed out "No!" to the girl asking for help and turned to smoke

Like what was he supposed to disarm there?

What was he supposed to think?

"Let me let this play out"

[bronze tinsel]

uh...

Cut her legs? I dunno

[warm torrent]

What legs?

She was smoke

[bronze tinsel]

Yet he killed her

[royal lake]

It's a shortcircuit of bad circumstances and mutual distrust, ye guys should probably not watch or read any tragedies because 99% of them wouldn't happen if one of the character just stopped and thought things out.

[warm torrent]

He seemed surprised that he actually cut into her

But here's the thing

The Jedi asked questions

They were told to leave

[rose schooner]

I’ve watched/read tragedies and this isn’t on par with them

[bronze tinsel]

Not wrong

[warm torrent]

The witches weren't just chilling and doing nothing

They were acting violent and struck first

They were raising their daughters to be violent

[royal lake]

because they didn't trust the jedis

[warm torrent]

For reasons unclear

Other than we're just supposed to assume the galaxy doesn't trust them for no explicit reason

[bronze tinsel]

@warm torrent What do you mean? Taking a hostage and using him to blackmail his master isn't evil, it's just a point of view

[warm torrent]

Like just say they enforce the rules of the Republic and the Republic is unfair because it's run by wealthy politicians

That's not hard to make a story about

[royal lake]

Mandalorians raise their kids to be violent, those are cool, right?

[bronze tinsel]

Isn't the plural of Jedi also Jedi?

[bronze tinsel]

No

[warm torrent]

No they suck too

[royal lake]

IDK

[rose schooner]

Wealthy politicians are subscribed to Disney+, so they wouldn’t do that

[warm torrent]

That's where I think this show is just being cowardly

It doesn't wanna commit to critiquing anyone

Or anything

The Force isn't real, there is no real world analogy to "hording magic"

[rose schooner]

So it’s like South Park sometimes but unfunny

[bronze tinsel]

That's PRECISELY what Satine was trying to stop during the Clone Wars

[peak kayak]

Yeah no one here is hoarding magic

[royal lake]

Yeah, but they were all cool in the TV series with not-Boba Fett, right?

[warm torrent]

No

I hate that show

I've hated it since day one

[bronze tinsel]

I'm a Hoarding Magic Droid

[bronze tinsel]

I've never liked Boba

He does nothing in Empire and then dies to a blind guy in Jedi

Then turns out he didn't die I guess...

He also got put in a sack by Ventreess during the clone wars

[warm torrent]

It's just the witches don't feel like any real culture, the Jedi don't feel like any real institution, Qimir doesn't feel like a real person, nothing feels real in the way they talk, the backgrounds they come from, any of it. It's only real feeling when you ignore half the details and just fill in the blanks on your own.

[rose schooner]

Yeah blind people kills are invalid

To heck with Chirrut

[royal lake]

Neither do I, but personally I fear that in a franchise called Star Wars a good portion of warrior societies that aren't evil as such is physiological.

[bronze tinsel]

eeeeeeeeh

Not wrong....

I like Ahsoka

[warm torrent]

I just think the franchise started off as a real world critique of imperialism and has so far ended up extremely toothless and beholden to it's billion dollar company except when they aren't paying attention and something like Andor happens

[bronze tinsel]

Andor was an accident

[royal lake]

It was always vague enough that many didn't get it.

[bronze tinsel]

I just said I like Ahsoka, favorite character

I didn't really care for her show

Felt like she was a different character

I now get how Luke fans feel with TLJ

Not that I'm THAT passionate about it lol

[rose schooner]

They should be more overt. Like Nute Gunray’s name for example

Or Palpatine saying stuff Bush would say

[bronze tinsel]

Or be brave enough to say "MIDICHLORIANS" if they're gonna bring that stuff in at all

[warm torrent]

Like I get that not every Lucas project has good writing

And he could have told a better message in all of his movies, even the originals

But it was more scathing and direct than this show by a long shot

[zinc geode]

We having a fun enlightening conversation about the current state of our favorite StarWars

[warm torrent]

Like that's the thing man I do like Star Wars still

And I'm not against it being stupid and just flashy fun sometimes

[bronze tinsel]

I like Star Wars, but it's not my whole identity

I like to discuss it, but I don't live or die by it

[warm torrent]

Visions is one of my favorite shows for that reason, a lot of it has no real depth to the story beyond just fun and cool visuals from talented people

[bronze tinsel]

Oh yeah, I need to watch that

[warm torrent]

I feel like this show is trying to have a message

And I think it's failing

[rose schooner]

Visions does well on both ends of the spectrum depending on the episode

I like it more than most of the live action shows. It feels bolder

[warm torrent]

It's my favorite SW show outside Andor

[rose schooner]

With a Star Wars show, it can have a message, it can have a thrilling series of events, and I feel like Acolyte is failing at both in my eyes

I’m really glad I don’t listen to Star Wars podcasts anymore lol

[warm torrent]

Yeah the visuals just aren't enough for me personally, it's not terrible but it's a little too much just kinda happening without much flow to it imo

[bronze tinsel]

I don't really watch any Star Wars content creator anymore

[rose schooner]

I don’t think I could handle a couple hours hearing a round table being postive or negative on it

[bronze tinsel]

I hate the online discourse

[warm torrent]

HG is the only SW youtuber I frequently have watched

[rose schooner]

Yeah he keeps things short and simple which is an approach I take with my SW content

[zinc geode]

Used to be upset Andor didn’t get the same amount of attention as some of the other StarWars shows and the more time has passed the more I see it was a blessing in disguise

[bronze tinsel]

I don't even watch HG anymore lol

[rose schooner]

I just would feel like I’ve had time wasted investing so much time talking about these shows on video

Or audio

[warm torrent]

The fact that people are still putting out 3 hour long TLJ videos is baffling to me

[rose schooner]

Christ

[warm torrent]

I saw one sneak into my feed that had like 3 views a few months back

[rose schooner]

How great those people’s lives must be if TLJ is the thing they’re most butthurt about. And I say this as someone who considers it middle of the road

[bronze tinsel]

Is Mauler still around?

[warm torrent]

Also I pretty much called it

[royal lake]

They are ALL still around. In Italian forums I get the videos of those shitheads linked with alarming frequency.

[bronze tinsel]

Huh

I suppose that's all they have in their lives

Good for them.

[rose schooner]

Maybe we should tell those hippies to get real jobs

[bronze tinsel]

More than that I dunno how they haven't just gotten bored lol

[rose schooner]

You know what? I’m gonna say it

The song is by far the best thing about this show

[pale jewel]

The wait is painful

[zinc geode]

Is it though

[pale jewel]

I hate long waits between episodes like this.

You should have seen me when invincible was on break

[rose schooner]

Eh I feel fine

[clever hinge]

I realized something

[bronze tinsel]

I don't like weekly releases

[clever hinge]

If Venestra was indeed Qimir's master then it makes sense why he's got a shoto second saber so he can use it against her like Luke did in Legends

[bronze tinsel]

The only reason they do weekly releases is to hold people in their subscriptions

One of the reasons Andor was so nice for me is because I caught it after it was done, I binged the whole thing

So much better

[clever hinge]

I think weekly releases keeps the show in circulation much longer as with full series drops they get talked about for like 2 weeks and then drift away

[bronze tinsel]

It's to keep people subscribed

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/K48M2S7bkSA/maxresdefault.jpg

Qui-Gon was gonna murder the Viceroy According to The Acolyte, a Jedi only draws his lightsaber when he's ready to kill.

[cursive glacier]

I love retcons

[bronze tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/old-ben-mos-eisley-gif-5857998943951753526

Obi-Wan gonna murder Doctor Evazan

[clever hinge]

What?

[cursive glacier]

😭

[bronze tinsel]

According to The Acolyte, a Jedi only draws his lightsaber when he's ready to kill.

[clever hinge]

Ready/Prepared to kill dosn't mean going to kill

[bronze tinsel]

https://lumiere-a.akamaihd.net/v1/images/Lightsaber_853fb596.jpeg?region=1%2C0%2C1444%2C812

LUKE IS READY TO KILL, RUN BEN

https://i0.wp.com/clubjade.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/tros-finn-rey-poe-cave.jpg?fit=1200%2C401&ssl=1

REY IS GONNA KILL SOMEONE, SHE'S READY

I'd watch a Qimir show, no joke

[radiant meteor]

I was wondering, what did you guys think of them using a metal detector in the beginning of E7?

I’m not saying I hated it, but I was just curious.

[radiant meteor]

He should definitely get a spin-off.

[bronze tinsel]

Looked silly

Is that how you search for a vergence? xD

[radiant meteor]

Yeah.

Like, you have the Force!

[bronze tinsel]

eh

How about meditation?

Or... searching for points of life florishing in the planet

I hope Chewie found a gold medal at least

[rose schooner]

God you just reminded me of how TROS stupidly made a point to give Chewie a medal

I was already fine with expanded canon material showing that the medal wouldn’t have fit around his neck and that he gave it to someone else he helped

[royal lake]

Yea, that was incredibly stupid.

[bronze tinsel]

It was chocolate

Wookies can't eat gold

Metal intolerance.

[peak kayak]

Gold clogs your intestines anyway

[rose schooner]

Can’t eat Threepio then

[peak kayak]

He’s watching his calories

[sturdy acorn]

thats honestly also really stupid lmao

i wish everyone would just stop obsessing over the chewie medal detail lmfao

[zinc geode]

Literally one of the least bad parts of that movie

[silent relic]

Star Wars fans try not to rabidly obsess over the smallest and dumbest details of the media they consume challenge impossible

[rose schooner]

“Luke shouldn’t have tossed the saber over his shoulder! It was too silly! He should’ve just dropped it on the ground!”
-me probably

[peak kayak]

Anakin would’ve tossed it too. The drama queen

[dim hill]

https://fxtwitter.com/starwarsexplain/status/1812948827391029292?s=46&t=LijuIuOU-aXZhjSQ3YHlcg

Star Wars about to be fucked when we make the dnd party canon

[clever hinge]

Lmao based

I mean if I was doing a SWTOR series for canon the characters would be my game characters

[runic urchin]

I mean he shouldn’t have, the shoulder throw messed with the tone of the scene, as well as the porgs seemingly trying to ignite it

[rose schooner]

I know. The whole theater I was in laughed. Was too Mark Hamill-y

[trim path]

Thats insane she's like the anti-Filoni

Killed off her own SWRPG OC

[rose schooner]

Star Wars but each character is based on a HelloGreedo server user

[rose schooner]

The Acolnight

[craggy hawk]

Acolyte Finale tonight how we feeling??

[rose schooner]

I’m prepared to feel like it underdelivers

[craggy hawk]

I agree

Or it's gonna set up for a second season that probably won't happen

[rose schooner]

If it ends on a cliffhanger I will fling myself off the Cliff

[craggy hawk]

I agree to that

[royal lake]

Nah, it's better like this. It hurts/confounds Rey even more this way which is the entire point.

[rose schooner]

Was the point to make the audience laugh though?

[craggy hawk]

The tone of TLJ is very confusing

[runic urchin]

Exactly, you’d get tonal whiplash with some of the scenes. The lightsaber scene, the “yo momma joke” scene and the Rose kiss scene spring to mind

[rose schooner]

TLJ should’ve done what Godzilla Minus One did

Anyway ten more minutes before this thread dies

[dim hill]

Martian Manhunter!

[rose schooner]

#RestoreTheSnyderverse

[craggy hawk]

The fuck

[dim hill]

That was a good finale but damn if they don’t give us a follow up that will be depressing

[craggy hawk]

PLAGUEIS

[dim hill]

These credits are a much better/creepier cult chant, than what we got in episode 3

[craggy hawk]

I think episodes 3 and 7 are supposed to be from different points of view

[peak kayak]

THAT’S WHERE I KNOW HIM

[dim hill]

Oh definitely

[peak kayak]

Also puppet!

[craggy hawk]

3 is from Mae and Osha and 7 is from the Jedis

That's why 3 showed the witches in a positive light

[dim hill]

The moment he started speaking I was like “Jonn?” And then the camera went in to show him and I jumped a little in excitement

[peak kayak]

He was Snyder John right?

[craggy hawk]

Yuh

[dim hill]

Supergirl

[craggy hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/martian-manhunter-harry-lennix-dceu-gif-25360231

Oh

[dim hill]

https://tenor.com/view/real-martian-son-of-mars-gif-7291287

[craggy hawk]

Not sigma of me

[peak kayak]

See I wasn’t sure which one

[craggy hawk]

Also that was Darth Plagueis on the mystery planet right?

[dim hill]

Yeah, I honestly didn’t even think about the perspective of the episode leading to things like that. Kind of wish we saw the chanting again from the Jedi view to see how different that might have really been

[peak kayak]

If it’s not, they’re tricking people

[hollow mural]

||Wow Qimir won on all fronts||

[dim hill]

Definitely. I’m curious what he was doing there. Did he train Qimir, was he hiding?

[rose schooner]

Sol would’ve fucking hated the clones lmao

Glad he’s dead

[craggy hawk]

I think Qimir is his apprentice at this point since Qimir is looking for an Acolyte, and in Legends Plagueis is alive at this timeframe

And we don't know when he was born in canon

Yet

[dim hill]

Actually, episode shit. We never got to see a real fight with the lightsaber whip. What was the point of even showing that off

[peak kayak]

Toys

[shadow siren]

Well, that was incredible.

And now I'm sad because there's no way in Hell we're getting a second season.

[dim hill]

We don’t even have a single Lego set ;-;

[shadow siren]

At least it foreshadowed her and Qimir's relationship. The whip welts on his back clearly came from it.

[craggy hawk]

They actually cooked on this episode good lord

[dim hill]

Oh fuck I forgot about that

[shadow siren]

Yeah I fell head over heels in love with this show from the third episode, and it stayed great almost all the way through for me.

The only thing I didn't like was Torbin's awful motivation in episode 7, but it was far from enough to wreck the whole show for me.

[dim hill]

I haven’t followed any of the high republic stuff, but I know Vernestra was a part of the books and stuff, was Qimir ever mentioned?

[shadow siren]

It's nice to see something other than a flood of disappointment for once!

[trim path]

That finale sucked lmao

Just left me with way more questions

[shadow siren]

Theeere it is lmao

[clever hinge]

The stuff with Venestra was way before this

Like she was younger

[dim hill]

Ah

[clever hinge]

Pretty good episode I liked it

[craggy hawk]

RIP Jedi Master Sol you were a real one

[shadow siren]

I dunno, I thoroughly enjoyed the finale. The courtyard standoff had me absolutely fuckin shook. Osha bleeding the crystal was also crazy to see. And if anything, all the unanswered questions makes me really want a second season that we probably won't get because of how much everyone hated the show :(

[clever hinge]

Yea rip Sol

[royal lake]

Yes, it's the exact reverse of what Rey (who's the audience surrogate character like Luke was) would expect. If the guy just solemnly threw or let the lightsaber fall away it would still be somewhat expected, instead she just finds someone who at least tries to project pure lack of care. So, yes: hermit Luke is meant to be at least a bit funny in the way he acts.

[clever hinge]

Sad to see him get thrown under the bus by Venestra

[trim path]

Moral of the story, Jedi bad and ripped away the lives of innocent people

[dim hill]

I like the finale, but I think a lot of stuff will depend on if we get a season 2. If they really weren’t planning to make a 2nd season, it seems weird to end it like that when there’s clearly a lot more to tell and explore. Hopefully they do continue it

[craggy hawk]

Sol sacrificed so much just to be bad-mouthed smh

[trim path]

And random Plagueis cameo

[clever hinge]

Nah, we’ll get a season 2, they were taking about it before the series premiered and they called it the season finale not series

[dim hill]

“Jedi bad”
No, Sol was bad. It was pretty obvious he was the one that fucked up, not the Jedi as a whole

[craggy hawk]

It's even called it on the Disney site rn

[icy rose]

Even if the show is cancelled they'll probably turn S2 into a comic or something

[dim hill]

I hope so

[clever hinge]

The Jedi literally covered up the Sith and blamed Sol

[trim path]

They know there was a dark Jedi who fell but covered it all up

[dim hill]

Yeah, but that is a separate topic from “Jedi separated and ruined families” when Sol was told multiple times “no”

[royal lake]

Could be anything, maybe Qimir ||isn't his apprentice but he somewhat felt his presence and is investigating||

[icy rose]

The show was pretty alright. I don't really swing one way or the other on this it was just ok imo

[trim path]

He shouldn't even be the major Sith Lord at this time though

Like he's 10 at this period of time lmao

Shouldn't Tenebrous be there at that time

[royal lake]

Wasn't that old canon?

[craggy hawk]

Plagueis doesn't have a date of birth in canon yet

[dim hill]

Do we know of their official ages in canon?

[craggy hawk]

Nope

[dim hill]

Cause a lot of that was legends

[clever hinge]

I think it’s implied they only said no cause they were too old, if they were way younger they might’ve been given the go ahead

[dim hill]

Yeah, but that also doesn’t mean kill their mom, lie to the kid, drop her sister, etc. sure sol had his reasons for stuff, but it wasn’t like the Jedi were solely to blame for what happened when it was pretty much Sols doing

[shadow siren]

I read it as "moral of the story: institutions are not inherently good nor bad, they're at the whims of those who occupy them and interpret their texts". The Witches did bad things such as creating magic children and training them to be cult leaders. The Jedi did bad things such as imposing their will onto other cultures and insisting they have the "right" to take children when they see fit. The Sith did bad things such as ...fuckin' murdering people.

Everyone did bad things. Are some more good than others? I mean sure, but the whole point is that judging morality based on the stance of any one of these groups isn't the right call. It's all about people, what they do, and why.

[trim path]

The show should have been only about Qimir

I genuinely don't give a fuck about the Osha and Mae story

[dim hill]

I imagine part of why the Jedi want to keep it from the senate is to prevent galaxy wide panic. Especially when the is already frustrated by them

[trim path]

Its like the weakest and most random ass part of the show

[shadow siren]

Also a friend of mine just dropped this on me, so you all have to suffer too:
"Turns out confession may not be good for the Sol after all."

[trim path]

Like who gives af that they're from this cult of witches and they're actually one person split into two

[shadow siren]

I personally disagree, but I get that I'm in a severe minority on that one.

[trim path]

Just give us cool Rule Of Two Sith stuff

[dim hill]

Rule of Two for Season Two

[craggy hawk]

YODA WOOO

[clever hinge]

I think the Osha and Mae storyline is one of the more interesting parts of the show

[dim hill]

I liked it, though I don’t disagree about wanting more about Qimirs story as I feel that could’ve been more interesting. I think the osha and Mae stuff started out weak but this episode made me really want to see it continue

[shadow siren]

I loved pretty much every storyline in this show.

I love the girls so much.

[clever hinge]

I think S2 will focus more on the sith aspects

S1 was just set up

[dim hill]

Also, that fight between Sol and Qimir when they were on the bridge/hallway to me felt straight out of clone wars

[shadow siren]

As someone that doesn't like fight scenes, but does love symbolism and the concept of tying character traits into their physical features and actions, I loved that Qimir had a secret second blade in his first one. It tells you something about him right off the hop, and these writers clearly care about details like that.

[dim hill]

Yeah. It was clearly setting up Osha to be the Acolyte, and S2 will probably be about her as the acolyte

[clever hinge]

I think the second saber was also made as a defense against Venestra and her saber whip

Luke had a similar one in Legends

[rose schooner]

There were some things I liked about this finale, but I still just don’t buy Osha turning, thought the switcharoo was eye-rolly, and this just didn’t save the show for me

[shadow siren]

That's okay! c:

I'm sorry you weren't able to enjoy the show, it sucks when you wanna enjoy something but you just don't. :(

[clever hinge]

I don’t think she’s fully dark side

She only went with Qimir to save Mae and just gave into her emotions with Sol

She probably will be full dark side later on

[sleek zodiac]

im back

[rose schooner]

Uh oh

[sleek zodiac]

overall show was pretty ok, i liked it more than ahsoka, obi-wan and bobf

[rose schooner]

No Twitter links pls

[sleek zodiac]

high republic never misses with its villains

i wont

im staying off it

trying to purge myself of its darkness

the script in most of the episodes isnt very great and i wish the episodes were longer

the action is really good, the first couple episodes had way to many cuts in the action scenes but it got better as the show went on

as a high republic fan i feel a bit betrayed by how vernestra is acting in this show, feels very different than the vernestra i know from the books but it has been 100 years

plagueis and to a lesser degree yoda just felt like glup shitto moments

but overall

the show got MUCH better in the second half and it was alright

will probably check out season 2

👍

like 5.5/10

maybe 6/10

idk

[pale jewel]

That Senator has a good point tbh

About the Jedi and Their Emotions

[zinc geode]

The lightsaber fights in this show are so much better than Kenobi it’s not even funny

😭

[pale jewel]

I wonder if Master Tapal got his lightsaber design from the designs of the high republic Jedi

Cuz some of these designs remind me of His/Cal’s

[sleek zodiac]

easily the best lightsaber action in the shows

its not even close

Acolyte clears the very low bar by a mile

[pale jewel]

Me watching the Kyber Crystal Bleeding Scene: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t9wmWZbr_wQ&pp=ygUTd2hlcmUgaXMgdGhlIGthYm9vbQ%3D%3D

[zinc geode]

They just couldn’t go without the Yoda cameo could they 😭

We were so close to going without any gulp shittos

[sleek zodiac]

well they had plagueis earlier in the episode

honestly

i think it would have worked better if they moved the plagueis cameo to where the yoda one is

show him looking at osha and qimir at the end instead of like 12 minutes into the episode

[zinc geode]

Plagueis at the end would have made a lot more sense

Especially considering it’s a sith oriented show

[sleek zodiac]

frfr

[zinc geode]

That score during the credits was real shit

Until that song came on again

So Yoda has just chronically had the same amount of hair for hundreds of years

[pale jewel]

At the beginning of the High Republic Era i think he had like fuckin Wayne Gretzky Hair

[warm torrent]

I FUCKING KNEW IT

I KNEW I SHOULD'VE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT PLAGEUIES SHOWING UP EARLIER

I THOUGHT ABOUT MAKING A LAST SECOND PREDICTION AND THEN I DIDN'T CAUSE I WAS BUSY HANGING OUT WITH FRIENDS AND BEING HAPPY

[sleek zodiac]

bro said he was trainin jedi for 800 years which mean he was training since he was 100, but grogu is 50 and acts like an infant which either means
A. Yoda's species has the most intense puberty of all time
B. Grogu is underdeveloped mentally cause of the like 30 years he spent passing hands after order 66

[pale jewel]

For those who don’t know what I mean this is what bleeding a Kyber Crystal usually looks like

[zinc geode]

I really want to see more of Darth Plagueis on screen tbh

There’s a lot to expand on there

[cursive glacier]

Circle went schizo

[zinc geode]

Yes I know there’s a book but since when has that ever mattered with continuity

[royal lake]

It's what that particular time looked like. Luke's healing of the bled crystal also was flashier than the one that Ahsoka did in the novel.

[rose schooner]

Crazy for this show’s finale to tease interesting things instead of having the show be about those things in the first place

[royal lake]

Luke had to literally go and travel through the memories of the Sith that bled the crystal while Ahsoka didn't have nearly that many problems with the Inquisitor crystals.

[sleek zodiac]

skywalkers just have issues with kyber ig

[royal lake]

I imagine different circumstances make for different bleeding/healing.

[pale jewel]

I imagine it depends on someone’s anger then?

[royal lake]

How was the person that attuned/bled the crystal, how much time ago, if there is any particular history between the parties involved, etc.

Vader had a lot of internal conflict and that was the crystals of an even older Jedi master who certainly didn't submit to him out of guilt.

[pale jewel]

Dagan is probably a good comparison too

Dagan spent like 200 years in stasis angry at the Jedi over Tanalorr

[zinc geode]

I feel like putting Plagueis so early into the episode kind of sets off the false impression that we are actually going to see more of him in the episode

Instead it just ends up as a why is he there sort of thing

[pale jewel]

I hope this show gets a season 2 so we can actually see more of him

[warm torrent]

I hope it doesn't cause I doubt I'd find him interesting if they wrote for him

I feel like none of the action is resonating for me right now cause there's no emotion behind it for me

[runic urchin]

Which is probably the biggest issue of the show. It was promoted/marketed as a Sith/Dark Side centric show, and it really wasn’t

[zinc geode]

Whoever is doing that score is not getting near enough attention

They’ve been straight cooking

[warm torrent]

I think it sucks cause the goofy parts of star wars always work because the characters feel grounded and seeing relatable characters in situations with high intensity is fun and fantastical

But I just don't care about or relate to these two not sisters

[zinc geode]

I think this show has some good talent behind it that I really hope Lucasfilm keeps on for other projects, the choreographer, the actors, the composer like there are some really good pieces here

It just sucks the writing isn’t up to the same quo

[warm torrent]

And that's the most important part for me

Without it it's just noise

Like the slow motion, the chanting, it just kinda felt dramatic and stupid

Because I just didn't care

Hell I felt more watching The Powerpuff Girls Movie a couple hours ago cause at least they were acting like real people. Children talking like children, sisters acting like sisters, in this everyone feels so wooden and shallow.

[rose schooner]

I genuinely think the team thought they made something great. I just don’t see it the same way.

Yeah that movie is definitely a better story

Didn’t deserve to bomb at the box office

[warm torrent]

The animation and action 🤌

[rose schooner]

We could’ve had more Cartoon Network theatrical films 😭

[warm torrent]

Buttercup throwing hands with that big gorilla cause he was trying to hurt that dog

[rose schooner]

Man I’m glad the live action version never got off the ground

[warm torrent]

And then being scared cause she didn't think it was the right thing to do because she saw her powers as a negative thing and by extension herself as a monster

Genuinely good shit

Anyways this show is just giving me none of that

It's just giving me "I can't wait to sell toys of Bazill"

"It's a good thing we made Mae and Osha separate people so we can sell two different Funko Pops"

"And we can reuse the face mold on every action figure for the two of them!"

Oh my god a mind wipe?

That's what we're going with?

"Go, do what you were meant to do, Osha. Continue the lineage of the Sith so that Palpatine can create the most destructive and horrible fascist regime in history."

[rose schooner]

I can’t imagine any good toys made from this show tbh

Maybe that’s why it’s not very good. It’s not toyetic enough

[zinc geode]

I doubt that

Once again, Look at Andor

[warm torrent]

Oh no they didn't put the planet name title card on the screen one last time, now how am I gonna know what this city covered planet is????

[rose schooner]

Tbf people did think Hosnian Prime was Coruscant

[warm torrent]

Yeah but they show the Jedi Temple almost every time in this one

[rose schooner]

Yeah but be nice to the stupid people

[warm torrent]

I can't, they're making the story stupid as a result

[rose schooner]

I’m watching The Marvelous Mrs Maisel and I really wish The Acolyte were this good

I actually care about these characters even when they occasionally do mundane things

[warm torrent]

I'm surprised they didn't pull a Reylo and have Qimir and Osha kiss for no reason at the end

Wow Yoda

Pre credits glup shitto cameo

[rose schooner]

Yeah why does baby Yoda look so old

Canon ruined

[zinc geode]

Season 3 of The Acolyte is Baby Yoda origin story

What are we some kind of Mandoverse

[rose schooner]

Mando Cinematic Universe

[warm torrent]

Incredible

Anyways yeah this shit just wasn't it for me

[zinc geode]

That Yoda cameo felt like when Maul randomly appeared at the end of Solo but making it the final scene was even more funny

[warm torrent]

I don't know why they spent so god damn long insisting that the Jedi are this horrible cult of fanatics causing so much pain and suffering when they literally have zero goals

[rose schooner]

I loved the Maul cameo as it recontextualized his story

This Yoda bit felt like the dumb Death Star credit scene in Andor except it wasn’t at the end of a good show

[warm torrent]

Like the only thing the Jedi ever do is try to make sure babies that have the potential to go accidentally levitate a boulder onto someone's head don't grow up not understanding how to properly use their power

And the main times that went wrong were because kids that were too old were trained when they specifically said they shouldn't have been.

[zinc geode]

The Jedi are bad and the Republic especially the later Republic is flawed however the show does not do a good enough show at showing it and lacks the proper depth to make a point

[warm torrent]

The only times that wasn't the case were Qimir who I still know nothing about really other than the implication that his master whipped him which ?????? and Dooku who was more corrupted by the Senate and then Palpatine than the actual order

I guess kinda Ventress too? But she barely did shit before becoming neutral

Which like the Senate has always been bad

Like it's been pretty clear for a while now that the Empire is just the Republic with new branding

The gall to shoehorn in J'onn at the end to make him look like this bold politician finally reigning in these "evil" monks who do almost nothing in comparison to the Republic that actively colonized dozens of systems and then bankrupted them when the corrupt politicians from the wealthy families that colonized the planets to begin with diverted all their resources to maintaining their own personal wealth.

[zinc geode]

A lot of the issues with the Jedi in the prequels and the clone wars are because of how blind Yoda is because of Palpatine and how much of an arrogant dipshit Mace Windu is 😭

[warm torrent]

Palpatine wasn't some rogue Jedi who snapped one day and created the Empire, he was a politician.

[warm torrent]

Mace Windu barely does shit

Calling him arrogant is giving Lucas too much credit

He's not even a character

[zinc geode]

He’s a constant aggregator in the Clone Wars

[rose schooner]

Mace suggested getting Dooku assassinated

And then wanted Quinlan Vos dead instead of redeemed

[warm torrent]

I'd have to rewatch to really get that feel but it's still not nearly as much of a clean cut character in the prequels

[rose schooner]

Fucker didn’t even show sympathy to Boba after beheading his dad

[warm torrent]

Fucker didn't even see Boba

Like he was staring directly at Dooku

[zinc geode]

He also lead the charge in banishing Ahsoka from the Order

[rose schooner]

I’m talking when they met in TCW

[warm torrent]

Again I'll have to rewatch to really get a better vibe for him in the show

But either way at worst Mace was a bit of a dick

He wasn't calling for fascism

He didn't give Palpatine the ability to create an army

[rose schooner]

He has terrible social skills I’d say

[warm torrent]

He didn't elect Palpatine, he never seemed to really trust Palpatine, he didn't like all the fascist things he was doing, none of the Jedi except Anakin did

Even Dooku didn't like it which is why his motivations as a Sith are dumb but his political stuff is actually interesting

The only Jedi that backed Palpatine's fascism was Anakin and he shouldn't have been a Jedi to begin with

[rose schooner]

Yeah Anakin should’ve just been a Sith from the getgo

He would’ve been happier

[warm torrent]

But because dipshit Qui-Gon believed more in the stupid prophecy than the 1000s of years of wisdom the Jedi have he forced this poor kid to leave his mom and start training to control his emotions at an age he was physically incapable of it

Like Anakin's life sucked, but Padme could've just bought him after the fact I'm sure

And his mom

[rose schooner]

Qui-Gon’s a hippie who should’ve just gotten a normal job

Padme does go looking for Shmi in her book trilogy Tbf

Sometime between TPM and AOTC

[warm torrent]

Looking?

She's literally where they left her

[rose schooner]

Nah it was after Shmi married Cliegg Lars

I don’t remember if there was a reason she couldn’t just ask Watto what was up

But she was trying to help free slaves iirc

[pale jewel]

So if this show gets a season two

Who do you think should play Plagueis?

[warm torrent]

Imagine how embarrassing it must've been for Anakin to find his mom in like two days

[rose schooner]

Andy Serkis obviously

Plagueis was Golluming that shit

[rose schooner]

Even more embarrassing when she died after he found her

[pale jewel]

I’d say either Serkis or Keith David

[rose schooner]

Keith David? Lmao

[pale jewel]

Yeah

Spawn’s VA

[rose schooner]

“Now THERES a man who knows how to marry his cousin!”

[warm torrent]

I say don't credit anyone and put their voice through a filter so the fanbase won't harass them online when they get pissy

[rose schooner]

Then people will know it’s just Filoni

Actually if it was Serkis that would just fuel the Snoke theories again

[warm torrent]

Oh I thought that's the joke you were making

[pale jewel]

Would that be Serkis’s third Star Wars character?

[rose schooner]

Nah I was only thinking the Gollum imagery

Yeah

I imagined Plagueis’ voice being more nasally though

Maybe the dude who voiced Dr Nefarious in Ratchet and Clank could voice him

[pale jewel]

Imagine if he’s voiced by Hamill

[rose schooner]

He’s already voiced a Sith

[pale jewel]

True

But Mark can bend his voice so many ways it’s hard to tell it’s him

[rose schooner]

Yeah but I kinda want less Mark in my Star Wars

[warm torrent]

I still stand by my rewrite concept from earlier. Main character is Jecki and her and Yord are investigating the death of a Jedi master. Throughout the show they start to learn of a connection between the master and three other Jedi as well as former padawan, Mae. They believe Mae is killing the Jedi because she was expelled from the order, but learn that it wasn't that simple and that Mae isn't working alone. Turns out Mae was taken from her home by the Jedi as a baby and her village was destroyed when her parents tried to keep her from being taken because they wanted to raise her in their own culture that treats the Force solely as a revered life source and not as a power to be wielded. The council actively gave the order to destroy the village and covered it up. Sol took Mae in as his padawan since he always wanted one and felt guilty. Mae found out the truth one day from Qimir, a Sith who reached out to her through visions or some shit. She leaves the order and the Jedi claim that she was kicked out. Jecki and Yord eventually capture Mae before she can kill Sol and the council tries to lock her away without trial, but Jecki thinks this is weird and looks into the truth herself. She breaks Mae out in hopes she can find some answers, but after they escape Qimir shows up having lost faith in Mae. In a desparate attempt to prove her loyalty, Mae kills Yord. Jecki is so distraught and betrayed by this she ends up killing Mae and becomes Qimir's new apprentice, having lost faith in the Jedi when she learned this was all a cover up.

[dreamy stone]

Sol deserved better

Dude was done so dirty

I would've killed someone's cultist homeschool mom too if they turned into an evil cloud demon infront of me for no reason

[warm torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-steve-carrel-thank-you-thanks-gif-5027652

I love how they never even implied what the point of turning into a cloud there was

[rose schooner]

Maybe it’s a Cloud City reference

[craggy hawk]

If Yoda has a role in Season 2 I'm hoping he's a puppet walking around

[rose schooner]

Maybe they didn’t show his face because it’s TPM puppet

[craggy hawk]

Oh nevermind

Looked like he got smothered in marmalade

[rose schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/how-feel-you-how-do-you-feel-how-are-you-feel-feels-gif-11789717

[craggy hawk]

It looked like his TLJ puppet looked so I'm praying

[rose schooner]

Tommy Lee Jones puppet would be a good idea

[dreamy stone]

For a story where the protagonist starts out as a former Jedi and then becomes a Sith the ending was weirdly not that dark?

Besides the killing Sol part

Which felt like the show tried to justify constantly by hammering down how flawed he is despite being a genuinely good person all things considered

Like they took something that should have been unequivocally condemnable and tried to paint it morally grey

[warm torrent]

See he's bad for choosing Osha because uhh he should've ummm let them both die?

[rose schooner]

Sol hates people who are the same exact being. He would’ve hated the clones. Therefore, it’s fine for him to die.

[craggy hawk]

Sol is a confirmed clonephobe

[dreamy stone]

There's ways to make the Sith more nuanced and to highlight the flaws of the Jedi without doing it through false equivalencies

[craggy hawk]

Also the episode structure really killed the pacing for the show personally

[warm torrent]

You know what might've made the Sith more interesting? If instead of being the antithesis of the Jedi they were the extreme end of the Jedi. They believe that emotions are not just a weakness, but something that needs to be excised from their mind through acts of trauma. That the only way to achieve true peace is to numb your mind to the pain of others, to focus solely on your own wants and desires.

Instead of them just creating strawman arguments against the Jedi that the show seems to treat like real criticism, they just see the Jedi as too tame and restrained. They see the Jedi as weak because they listen to the Senate and play politics. They're more concerned about their image than their supposed true goal of enlightenment. The Sith think they've found enlightenment by being so detached that they don't even care about the lives of others. Everything to them is just the Force, and death is simply the fate of those too weak to live purely.

[rose schooner]

Man I really don’t like the holier than thou arguments fans who loved the show make for those who didn’t, saying “fans don’t like challenging ideas” and such or “you just didn’t get it”

[dreamy stone]

I'm glad I'm not engaged with the broader Star Wars fandom so I can be blissfully unaware of these things

Star Wars Twitter must be so ass these days. Like the TLJ flame war days but instead of talking about something with actual substance it's arguing over the intellectual depths of a soggy piece of white bread

[warm torrent]

This show feels like it took all the half baked arguments TLJ made and somehow undercooked them even further

[shadow siren]

As someone that adores the show, I also hate this shit. It's just as bad as the reverse. I know how it feels to be told to no longer be alive because of my feelings towards the fictional space wizard show, why would anybody think it's okay in reverse? Go outside for cryin' out loud.

I get feeling vulnerable and weakened in a minority opinion, but turning it back onto your opposite isn't the answer. Talk up your favorite works, don't bring down its detractors.

[bronze tinsel]

Alright, let's see how they wrap this garbage

Sol is a bona fide idiot.

Oh shit

Was that Darth Plagurism?

Definitely looked like him

I f*cking hate the twins

This show would be so much better without them and the entire witch plot

I tolerate Osha...

Nah nvm, I'm angry at her again

Lee Jung Jae is a great actor

Aaaaaaand he's dead.

[pale jewel]

I remember I got called a Jew Lover over TLJ

[bronze tinsel]

Osha is an evil bitch

May is like Ditto. She changes to whatever the plot needs of her at any given time.

There's a few neat visual nods to Empire and Revenge of the Sith

"Should I wipe her mind?"

https://tenor.com/view/doit-starwars-kill-gif-5023949

........ wait, they can just do that?

https://tenor.com/view/han-solo-star-wars-the-force-angry-thats-not-how-the-force-works-gif-16636835

Vernestra is also an evil bitch

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-jameson-crap-mega-crap-j-jonah-jameson-spider-man1-gif-23760846

Egh

I think Obi-Wan was overall worse

But... this was such a sloppy show

If I had the time and will, this would be a fun project to re-edit into a single movie, but I don't think I have it in me.

Sol was done dirty, Osha is an evil bitch, Vernestra is an evil bitch, Mae is a literal Ditto, Qimir I liked, the witches were worthless

Meh

[pale jewel]

Actually it is

Remember that clone wars episode with the Father, Daughter, and Son?

[bronze tinsel]

I guss

[pale jewel]

Anakin saw his future as Darth Vader and the father used the force to wipe his memory of that so he could fulfill his destiny.

[bronze tinsel]

Guess*

I'll take your word for it

I honestly forgot

[pale jewel]

It’s actually a pretty cool scene imma find a clip of it

[bronze tinsel]

Though now that you mention it, yeah, they did do that to Anakin

[pale jewel]

Probably one of my favorite scenes from the clone wars https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-jPVUl693JU&pp=ygUWYW5ha2luIHNlZXMgdGhlIGZ1dHVyZQ%3D%3D

This episode i think was also supposed to have Revan in it as sort of Dark Side Force Ghost

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7lpn1_ZLIIA&pp=ygUQY2xvbmUgd2FycyByZXZhbg%3D%3D

[bronze tinsel]

Also, that was Plagueis, no?

I don't know how to write his name

I'm a fake fan

[pale jewel]

Yep

He’s got nasty ass fingers

[dim hill]

Just realized, since Osha and Mae were born using the force, plagueis is probably also there to figure out Osha’s secrets to learn about that power

[sturdy acorn]

why is bro grippin like that

[dim hill]

I wonder how much this plays into a lot of people’s opinions about the show, but this is the first D+ show since Mando S1 to not be about already established characters, and even then Mando was about the Mandalorian which were already popular and well established. Before that would’ve been Rebels.

Actually Resistance, totally forgot about that. And I guess that high republic kids show

[sleek zodiac]

agreed

the show is shot in this really dramatic way and theres intense moments with dramatic music that just dont hit as hard as they seem to think

they put the fucking "power of one etc" chant in the credits of the finale even 😭

[pale jewel]

Someone who shall not be named is mad about Plagueis being creepy and keeping tabs on Osha and Qimir

[near pulsar]

Man I hope this show gets a season 2, there's a lot of potential for it to continue and get better.
I also hope we get some novels closer to when this takes place, considering the publishing for the current line of phases is ending soon

[pale jewel]

As if these people don’t exist

[near pulsar]

I still think its funny how for weeks people were complaining about the show breaking canon cause a handful of jedi saw a sith. Then predictably every jedi that saw him died and nobody at the order learned about him.

I would like a novel with vernestra and qimir though. Early days of them being master and padawan.

(Also think it's funny how people immediately clocked qimir as vernestra padawan, due to the scars and his fighting style being uniquely affective against wips)

[dim hill]

Obviously that was just them trying to walk back and save the show after the real fans told them they were breaking lore

[near pulsar]

Oh also osha having sith eyes for a few seconds after the helmet gets taken off her was a cool touch

[near pulsar]

this is a pretty interesting time though. since i don't think plagueis is qimir master, and i'm pretty sure this is shortly before plagueis killed his master. so all of this could lead into him killing tenebrous

also going to bet qimir and osha are the origins of the knights of wren

[hollow mural]

The finale proves that the crybaby meltdown over munde’s birthdate was for nothing and if it really bothers somebody they can just add sr. to the guy we saw in the show

[rose schooner]

I think if there’s no season 2, a novel would be the best route to go

Season 1 felt like there was some reasoning in the character decisions that might’ve been more clear in a novel than in a show

[minor junco]

I could take Qimir a lot less serious if it turns out he founded a order of incompetent morons who don't even use lightsaber-resistent weapons

[near pulsar]

Idk, I can see it being a lost art over time. Especially considering cortosis is hard to come by and the knights of ren are specifically sith acolytes, not active jedi hunters or something

Also the original leader before kylo has a design similar to qimir

[minor junco]

Darth Epstein

[sleek zodiac]

Darth stinky

[amber cove]

I think the final episode redeemed a lot of this series for me

[rose schooner]

Maybe Peter Capaldi should voice Plagueis

[zinc geode]

So glad Yoda could wake up from his two week nap meditation

[sturdy acorn]

i think knight of ren lore is really dumb honestly

they were clearly initially intended to be more of luke’s students

i dont understand why it was so over complicated in canon

[near pulsar]

Kinda what happens when you added them to movie with barely any work done to them and leave it to a single comic writer to fill in the gaps

[zinc geode]

Ain’t that the truth

Not explaining them in The Force Awakens was fine

[near pulsar]

The fucking leg work charles soule had to do to make it even somewhat work 😭

[zinc geode]

But once it got to Rise of Skywalker it was just stupid

[sturdy acorn]

that being said, we get this awesome cover with bossk and waffle face so i’ll allow it. peak glup shitto crossover

[zinc geode]

The fact that there are still a hundred things from the Sequel Trilogy that haven’t been elaborated or expanded on is so stupid

[sturdy acorn]

i mean not really, the movies might have been lazy and never explained their deal but there was a clear setup for what they were

[zinc geode]

We have literal bread crumbs in terms of outside ST era material

[sturdy acorn]

whats especially weird to me is you see the knights use the force like once in TROS but it’s completely brushed over

[zinc geode]

It’s like Lucasfilm is terrified to show more of those characters until the Rey film

[sturdy acorn]

one of them force pushes ben on exegol but its a quick pan so u cant tell and for the rest of the fight until he gets his saber they just beat the shit out of him with weapons

[near pulsar]

Yeah but that idea was also almost entirely abandoned by tros, which is what the comics had to write around for them.
There was really barely anything given to actually develop them or kylo meeting snoke

[sturdy acorn]

my point is the movies themselves never give us anything about them that lead us to assume they’re anything other than kylo’s classmates or whatever

in tlj luke says ben “took a handful of students and slaughtered the rest” which like, obviously was meant to imply they’re the knights and not whatever happens in the comic

like its not a crazy retcon or anything i just dont get why they didnt just go with that

its not so hard for me to believe he convinced some of his classmates to turn(tho his turn itself is so vague it leaves a lot to the brain lmao), the whole cult of ren stuff is bizarre to me

like ultimately i dont rly care that much, i dont really even know why the knights were even introduced in TFA (as much as i love them). i just think there was potential for something much more streamlined

i think its so funny that in a movie only context they’re kinda just like. his squad

i bet they smoke together and its just silent the whole time

[near pulsar]

But even then I still don't think that's enough to build around. Because everything around the knights of ren just screams first draft and that nobody involved really cared, and just wanted to give kylo some cool sounding group to associate with

[sturdy acorn]

yeah they clearly just went completely their own direction with them in the comics bc theyre so vague it doesnt matter lmao

its really just a matter of opinion, and mine is that it wouldve been better if they had explored a group of students turning against luke rather than just kylo

but i guess the fact that they get nothing to do in TROS wouldve just made that potential all the more squandered lmao

[zinc geode]

Live Snoke with Hair reaction

[sturdy acorn]

isnt that just a fucked up hat

[near pulsar]

I also love how charles soule was literally given nothing for this comic. Even though it was literally supposed to tie into tros. Cause this barely work with the palpatine reveal

[sturdy acorn]

looks like dogshit regardless but it would be so much worse if it was hair

i should just draw my own little knight of ren comics

just them doing mundane shit in their ship

[near pulsar]

Also sucks that the comic came out during the era where marvel were giving no budget to their star wars comics. So almost everything got da tracing the actors treatment

[sturdy acorn]

yeah i noticed even in that pic above that the only difference between the last two panels is ben has his arm down in one and up in the next 💀

[near pulsar]

Pretty sure we've had this discussion around this time frame before in the comic thread. Also Pretty sure it's the same artist

[sturdy acorn]

yikes

[near pulsar]

God it's so fucking funny

[rose schooner]

Think it might be a different artist

[sleek zodiac]

Daniel Davis tho

[pale jewel]

Bossk is still alive by the time of the Sequel Trilogy?

How slow do trandoshans age?

[sturdy acorn]

the comic takes place during the OT

who knows how old some of the knights are lol

this particular run’s knights of ren are some of the movie ones and some others who i guess are gone by the time of the sequels, idk how recruitment works lmao

[silent relic]

I haven’t watched anything past episode 3 is the show still abysmal dogshit

[dim hill]

No

Not the best thing ever, but things get a lot more interesting after 3

[warm torrent]

For the most part

[craggy hawk]

They cooked with Episode 4 and 5 but that's it

[clever hinge]

It never was

[rose schooner]

Episode 3 is the best episode but it never reaches that level again

[silent relic]

Nah first three episodes genuinely turned me away from the show

[sleek zodiac]

did for me too

eventually was talked into finishing it

it gets better after episode 3 for me

best episodes are episode 5, 6, and 8 ish

[sturdy acorn]

you realize this is the same as “yes” right wafez

[sturdy acorn]

what order would u rank these cuz i thought 5 sucked too lmao

the fight was cool in theory if it didnt cut away every 9 seconds

[clever hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/pon-gif-15097379091171620462

[sturdy acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/sol-the-acolyte-lee-jung-jae-star-wars-jedi-gif-7972880801785569438

[warm torrent]

You know I can't remember what happened episode to episode between 4-6 tbh

Like gun to my head I can

But just offhand it was a lot of wandering around the forest

[sturdy acorn]

that shit was so funny

every time the named characters spoke to each other the other jedi would just roam in the near background in circles like npcs

[bronze tinsel]

Don't watch, it doesn't get any better. Look for the lightsaber fights on YouTube if you want, they were kinda cool.

[peak kayak]

Finally, Jedi I can relate to

[minor junco]

I was genuinely excited to see them. Then they got butchered the second they fought an enemy with a lightsaber and put up a substantially worse fights than the Praetorian guard.

Like they‘re supposed to be inquisitor Level but to be honest I got the impression that any Inquisitor would be able to beat all of them at once

[spice dirge]

OH SHOOT

I haven't checked in with my Star Wars friends

What's up guys

So my quick review of the series, unfortunately I really ended up not liking it. I wanted to, I wanted to give it a chance - I liked Sol very much, he was cool. The action was really great. Getting to see the Republic and all these Jedi working together was really fun

It started to lose me around the middle
||The way The Stranger kidnaps Osha after murdering all her friends (including someone it seemed like she may have had some romantic interest in) and corrupting her sister, but for some reason she just ends up hanging out with him, because... i guess he's actually just a nice guy, when he's not murdering people?||

And then by the end I was like
||All institutions are bad by dint of being institutions, the Jedi are basically cops and therefore evil, the Sith are actually the good guys who just want to live free... really frankly quite vapid "good = bad, bad = good" message, in my opinion.
Also the final episode had a lot of really strange half-baked ideas that didn't go anywhere?||

C'mon 😦

What did you guys think?

[near pulsar]

That's not really the message though. The point of the show here is that the jedi are good people, but good people do bad things.

Sol was misguided and blinded by his fear of the witches, vilifying them because he lacks the understanding of their use of the and force. And he had a desire for his mission to be something more, he was bored and wanted something more. He pushed and pushed until everything broke and it became everybody issue

[warm torrent]

Yeah but they did repeatedly call it out as an institutional issue with the Jedi by having the witches say the whole "your good intentions will be the end of the Jedi" line and that whole scene with the senator at the end.

Without really making it feel justified when we know the Jedi mostly fell cause of the Senate being run by incompetent wealthy assholes and Jar-Jar

[rose schooner]

I do agree it’s really weird seeing Osha join Qimir after seeing him kill all those Jedi

The finale had ideas that I thought would’ve been more interesting to explore earlier in the series

[warm torrent]

Especially when her relationship with Mae felt extremely one sided and yet she's willing to sacrifice everything for her

[near pulsar]

Well that's because the domino's are falling into place. The jedi are fundamentally good people with good intentions. But those intentions are becoming twisted by institutions their becoming involved with. But also there's fear from the senate.
The senator is doing the same thing to the jedi which sol did the the witches. Fearing and vilifying them because of a power they don't understand.
This is the very beginning of how the jedi fall by the prequels. Conspiracies and good intentions turned bad

[rose schooner]

Yeah. Like, it’s cool that people love the show, but I kind of don’t understand why that’s overlooked by those who love the show

The memory wipe, I know there’s a precedent for that in Star Wars, but I just don’t like in most fiction

In Doctor Who it’s ok 👍

[spice dirge]

And JarJar lol

[spice dirge]

The fact that it seemed like it was supposed to be like this triumphant moment of "Yes!! She's evil now!!" was like... I didn't like that

Also all that said, I wanted to like it, I didn't end up liking it unfortunately...
This is really funny

[warm torrent]

It's just the fact that the good intentions never felt like they should have lead to bad consequences. The witches were written in a way that made Sol's decisions feel fairly normal, and Osha wasn't written in a way that made it feel natural for her to turn at the end for Mae or her mom. The fact that they showed Sol trying to save them both alone before realizing he had to pick one is just a poor way of trying to make him look selfish. I just think that ultimately I can't really take anything away from these circumstances because they feel so esoteric. It's like Anakin turning evil to save Padme, like to me it's a lot more engaging to see him turn bad because he's being coerced by a military position that gives him power than to muddle it with visions and magic. To me the Force should be used to elevate the actions of some characters, either for visual purposes or to reinforce the message behind their decisions. Yoda lifting the X-Wing reinforces the message that no challenge is too big when you have faith. But in this the motivations are tied heavily to the Force elements. The vergence, the mind control, the smoke transformation, it doesn't feel representative of anything and yet it has a heavy impact on how characters act.

[sleek zodiac]

me listening to star wars fans

[rose schooner]

^me listening to Star Wars

[craggy hawk]

Me listening

Also new reaction vid muhahaha

[rose schooner]

https://youtu.be/z6jWcQpjbQM?feature=shared

[rose schooner]

Just realized the Jedi never said “For light and life” in this show

[sturdy acorn]

is that a high republic thing

[rose schooner]

Yeah

[sleek zodiac]

High republic is so fucking based (if you couldn't tell I liked it by my pfp)

[rose schooner]

So based that they should’ve based more of the show on it lol

[sleek zodiac]

Still praying for a high republic animated show

That isn't young jedi adventures

[dim hill]

All they have to do is release a “tales of the high republic” and everyone will love the high republic (though it would be better if they did something new with it)

[rose schooner]

Nah make it anime and call it Visions of the High Republic

[dim hill]

I was just thinking something 2D would be perfect

[sleek zodiac]

So true

[sturdy acorn]

goes hard

[zinc geode]

StarWars fans’ ability to be so stupid never ceases to amaze, a lot of people complaining about the lightsaber bleeding being illogical when the crystal was literally broken out of the saber shaft and in Osha’s hand

Also no one apparently told these guys that Legends isn’t canon anymore and hasn’t been in over 10 years, why should canon be expected to directly align with Legends material when it’s not the same timeline

There are plenty of fair things to criticize with this show and people manage to find the least problematic and turn it into a huge deal

[rose schooner]

Yeah there are so many bad faith arguments that make it tough to have valid negative criticisms one may have get taken seriously

[royal lake]

Frankly I think it was more to show it, she bleeds the crystal because her dark side turning point hits much closer to home than Anakin cutting off the arm of a Jedi master that was a bit of an ass to him,

We've been shown the bleeding of Vader's crystal in the comics, he needs to focus precisely on his personal pain and fights his own doubts. Osha has no doubts anymore and her personal anger and pain are laser focused in that moment when she kills Sol.

[warm torrent]

I don't think either scene really works in terms of showing the transition to the dark side for very different reasons, but I think on the whole the Anakin scene was more impactful simply because it just had more energy to it.

But most of that is the score and flashiness of it all tbh.

Oh wait unless your saying it was more close to home for her

I might've misread that

My b

[rose schooner]

Some of the fans online really lack the imagination to figure out retroactively the reason Anakin’s Crystal didn’t bleed in ROTS

During the attack on the temple, he clearly regrets what he does to the younglings. So he hasn’t fully embraced the dark

His eyes have turned yellow by the time he’s on Mustafar though, so I guess maybe that throws a wrench in things. Though he does shed a tear

All of this is to try preserving love, just the wrong way

[warm torrent]

I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt that it's weirder for Anakin to still be conflicted but not Osha

[rose schooner]

Osha and Mae are weird Tbf

[warm torrent]

It's just again the way that Osha's relationship with her mom and her sister was so gross feeling and her attachment to Sol felt more natural and profound in comparison that just made her being sold on the dark side for the sake of her family feel wrong

The funny thing though is that I'm not even necessarily gonna say Anakin would've felt more compassion for those kids, since he's killed kids before, but in general it's just a bit odd to throw in small lore details without doing the legwork to make it feel earned

You know what it is? It's that Osha says that she was never able to get rid of her grief, in fact we're told that a few times throughout the show, but we're never really shown how that's affected her in a meaningful way

I think the show would've benefitted from working in flashbacks of Osha's time as a Jedi training under Sol, showing her struggle with her emotions so we can understand more why she's so frustrated with the Jedi and in turn why they'd suspect that she's capable of killing one of them at the beginning.

[rose schooner]

Hm

Yeah we never did really see that time period did we

[sleek zodiac]

Literally this is the only explanation for why anakins didn't bleed

We straight up see oshas fingers touching the crystal

Anakins was still in the hilt

Problem solved

[dim hill]

And I think every time we see someone bleed a crystal they had to physically hold it (at least in Jedi survivor and I think that one Vader comic)

[craggy hawk]

Yep, Kylo did the same

[sleek zodiac]

My new headcanon is that Dagan was holding it with his phantom limb

[dim hill]

But don’t we see him grab it with his actual limb?

[near pulsar]

Yeah I feel like dagan kinda an exception. His ability to extent his will and physical reach with the force is pretty unique to him. So I don't really care about him not touching the the crystal itself

[royal lake]

LOL, I didn't quite notice she was touching the crystal until I saw a picture on Facebook, yeah, that will do I guess. 😅

[royal lake]

Family is still family.
Yes, it was a bit screwed up but no more than many normal religious families that had expectations for their kids and were overprotective. They didn't like... kick her ass for wanting to be a Jedi.
My great-grandad was a painter that came from a family of farmers and left written in a memoir he was working on (he was a tad eccentric and had a relatively interesting life for a small towner so many of his friends prodded him into writing about his life) that one of his neighbours' kid got beat up on Christmas because he said out loud he wanted to be a painter, his family instead was only somewhat resistant to his artistic ambitions, there's degrees to this stuff and Osha's situation before the last 24 hours wasn't so bad as to override any affection she had for her mom and her sister.

[warm torrent]

Yeah but we didn't see before that is the problem

The only glimpses we had for Osha's life seemed to be one where she felt constantly monitored, unable to be herself, and isolated from anyone she can relate to

I'm not saying it's impossible for her to have had a deeper relationship with them, I'm saying as someone who doesn't talk to my dad and wouldn't shed a tear if I found out he was dead tomorrow that the only thing I saw was an abusive family.

It's also worth noting they were like physically attacking the children

Like they called it "training" but zabrak lady did try to assault Mae

[sleek zodiac]

nah it hovers

[sturdy acorn]

really debating if i should finish the show or not

it doesnt seem worth it

however

im morbidly curious

[sturdy acorn]

WHY DID THEY WIPE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SAME SCENE

• mae stuns sol
• osha makes eye contact
• wipe
• pretty sunrise
• osha walks towards mae..??!

😭⁉️

okay so this convo between them

given all i’ve heard about the rest of the show

surely mae is not framed as in the right

[sturdy acorn]

on ep 6

per star wars tradition, this score deserves better material

LMAO they really gave a title card for “unknown planet” 😭😭😭

girl if u dont give a title card at all its unknown by default

okay forgive me if criticisms have been discussed here, i havent been keeping up w chat fully and im late to the party

i know sol is frazzled bc of all thats happened but like… there is no fucking way he doesnt 1) immediately realize osha is mae and 2) not sense that she’s like considering stabbing him every 5 seconds

https://tenor.com/view/chirrutîmwe-donnie-yen-the-force-moves-darkly-near-a-creature-thats-about-to-kill-star-wars-rogue-one-gif-26233238

sol deserves to be in a better show man he’s like almost interesting

i swear its like only one thing can happen at a time before they wipe away

dude why did she straight up just glance at his cock what is this

[sturdy acorn]

THIS GUY’S NAME IS MOG???

[cursive glacier]

Mogo the Green Lantern

[sturdy acorn]

“you better start swimming if you wanna get to the ship before sundown”
(osha looks over and its within wading distance)

was he just like

roasting her swimming skills

[cursive glacier]

Osha violations

[rose schooner]

It’s a subtle reference to Osha’s name sounding like “ocean”

[peak kayak]

Osha man

[warm torrent]

I'm glad someone else said it first cause I didn't want to be the one to bring up how extra it felt

[sturdy acorn]

wow i actually despise bazil

[sturdy acorn]

okay well im glad 1 was addressed if not pointless

lmfao not the jedi showing up from hyperspace right after sol jumps away 😭😭😭😭😭

i hope this group of jedi gets destroyed in the woods at night by another sith who reveals himself to be bazil

this cortosis helmet is the first time in this show ive been like “huh, thats a neat idea”

[warm torrent]

I just realized they ended that episode with Sol doing an ominous "it's time you learn the truth about what happened" and then when we go back after the next flashback episode it cuts back and I don't remember if he actually said anything or if we just saw what happened as the audience

[sturdy acorn]

see now when a wipe isnt out of place its jarring

[sturdy acorn]

lmao i’ll see if it checks out

he actually didnt even say anything ab the truth of what happened or anything, he just said hes been figuring out what to say to mae if he met her again. so if that was left unsaid it would be extra funny

[warm torrent]

I think he does say some vague apology of sorts, I just remember she escapes like immediately

[sturdy acorn]

lol

moving stuff

i am not looking forward to this flashback episode bruh

[sturdy acorn]

why does the ship interior have the exact same worn demeanor that it does 16 yrs later

its a nitpick but it would convey the time so much better if it was near sparkling

[silent relic]

Tomorrow I’m finishing the show god help me

[minor junco]

One of the biggest issues of this show is that it's supposed to be a mistery show but both big reveals (the Jedi/Sol being partially responsible for Brendok and Qimir being a Sith) are really really obvious

[sturdy acorn]

what is the point of this flashback being split in two eps if half of it is the same 😭

[sturdy acorn]

they’re barely even presented as mysteries

[warm torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/amazing-spider-man-andrew-garfield-thats-a-question-dane-dehaan-spiderman-gif-20103399

[sturdy acorn]

if the show wasnt constantly marketed as a mystery i wouldnt have called it one at all

[minor junco]

Qimir basically calling Mae an idiot for not realizing he was her master was so freakin funny

[sturdy acorn]

id say sol and qimir are carrying but none of the writing is good enough for that

[warm torrent]

See what I'm wondering is how did he introduce himself to her?

[sturdy acorn]

sol at least feels kind of like a real person

[sturdy acorn]

i imagine she was just sent to someone her master knew or whatever

[warm torrent]

Did he walk out of the room in his helmet and then walk back in like "man that guy sure is scary, anyways hi I'm qimir and I also work for that guy"

[sturdy acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/mulan-mushu-great-stone-dragon-good-morning-gif-26172341

[minor junco]

This show really needed a comedic montage of Qimir switching outfits after each meeting with Mae

[silent relic]

Sol is literally the only reason why I didn’t drop the show after the first episode

[warm torrent]

Man I hope nothing bad happens to him

[silent relic]

[sturdy acorn]

this poor actor is really giving it his all

man learned english for this show 😭 at least he got the least poorly written character

[silent relic]

Man is acting his ass off for this

[warm torrent]

I was telling my friend about this show and she was like "oh I know that one, there's a korean actor I really like that I think is in it" and then I told her what happened to his character and she was like "...oh"

[sturdy acorn]

i hope he gets more english speaking roles so it was at least worth his time

[sturdy acorn]

lmao dont tell me, im curious to see where it goes

[warm torrent]

I won't say more

[sturdy acorn]

im sure he’ll be fine 😁

surely this will be a fulfilling end for this vaguely compelling character

[minor junco]

He ends up retiring to a nice little wellness resort on Scarif

[silent relic]

There’s one way this can go and I am 99% sure it will go that way

[sturdy acorn]

that interaction was fucking hilarious

“the council says we have interfered too much already”
“can we go home at least”

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-no-thinking-nope-skinner-gif-16471648

😭

torbin is such a dumb character man

thank u, show, for interrupting the pacing of this scene by showing me clips from the third episode

[rose schooner]

It’s Torbin time

[sturdy acorn]

this show literally said “boring ahh episode” and played clips from a more boring episode

wow these witches are crazy 😭

i also dont usually harp on child actors too much but wow mae is…… really not good

everything between osha and mae feels like a tumblr fanfic

i just

what even is this show man

i like the miniatures a lot i’ll say that

[warm torrent]

I think it's funny they say the two are supposed to be one person split in half and that's why they look perfectly identical in the present, but they look extremely different as kids

Like even with normal twins that's the opposite of what happens

[minor junco]

I would enjoy the show so much more if Mae and Osha's childhood together was portrayed in any way as heartwearming or at least interesting

[sturdy acorn]

it just feels like they were abused and have different ways of expressing it; osha is constantly tired and mae is constantly aggressive

they’re focusing a worryingly small amount on how fucked that is

it is literally so easy to show the faults of the jedi, just having an abusive family call them an institution doesnt cut it

[warm torrent]

Truly the Jedi are a society

[minor junco]

I also think Aniseya being portrayed as a moral highground when one of her very first scenes is essentially mindraping a minor is weird

[sturdy acorn]

LMFAOOO WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED

[warm torrent]

The smoke?

[sturdy acorn]

okay so hold on

why the fuck did she do that

why didnt u just let osha go first

????

[sturdy acorn]

yes lmao

just realized this scene has actually been allowed to progress in its entirety instead of being cut away from constantly

incredible

okay are they constantly using kylo ren’s theme on purpose or

[minor junco]

I just listened to the Living Force like a month ago and it does so much of a better job showing the flaws of the Jedi as a institution while also portraying the actual people in it as ultimately decent and sympathetic

[sturdy acorn]

cuz i know it was said it was used on purpose once a few eps ago, but this is a completely different context

[sturdy acorn]

the thing is like, i feel like most of star wars does this

its genuinely not that hard of a thing to convey

right now i am firmly on sol’s side

his killing of mother aniseya is framed as this dark secret but thats on her for doing fucky witch shit instead of just telling him her plan 😭

[minor junco]

Not to mention that her mindrape of Torbin seems to have been a main contributor of Torbin running off and starting the mess in the first place

[sturdy acorn]

wait

DID THE WITCHES ALL JUST DIE

LMFAO

or did they just pass out and im overthinking it

i might be riding the high of stupidity

[warm torrent]

They died

[sturdy acorn]

LOL

[warm torrent]

That's why they were all dead in episode three

Or I guess they passed out so hard the fire eventually killed them

[sturdy acorn]

oh i guess i missed or forgot that lol

you know what

just this once

[sturdy acorn]

i’ll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume it was meant to be this

even if that is also incredibly dumb

[warm torrent]

Bout to say I don't know if that's much better 😭

[minor junco]

I really don't get how Indara severing their connection to Kelnacca is supposed to be a mistake on her part. Like should she just have stood by and let her padawan get mauled to death?

[warm torrent]

I didn't even think the show was trying to frame that as bad by how obviously reasonable it was

See moral greyness is when someone tries to kill you and you fight back

That's the lesson here

[minor junco]

Honestly putting all your life energy into controlling one guy comes off as really stupid to me. What did they expect to happen?

[warm torrent]

That's the power of many I guess

[sturdy acorn]

oh my god the lyrical song is so out of nowhere too lmao

its not necessarily a bad song at all, certainly not my cup of tea, but on top of the rest of this show the vibe is just hilarious

[warm torrent]

I once again would like to recommend any of Victoria Monet's other songs, normally she sings about being hot and fucking not about star wars nonsense

[sturdy acorn]

yeah lmao i think ive heard some of her stuff here and there

[sturdy acorn]

okay, onto the last ep

lord help me

yea okay so sol just loses the force sometimes ig bc bro cannot sense shit

[warm torrent]

I think I've figured it out, the moral of the show is that we all were lead to believe the Jedi can sense things

But that was a lie created by the Jedi

[sturdy acorn]

okay this asteroid ring is cool, finally the part of the disney+ star wars show where the cgi action setpiece outshines the rest of the cheap looking visuals

a little behind schedule but still welcome

[warm torrent]

Yeah I liked that

[sturdy acorn]

death is a concept invented behind the jedi… i dont even know how to spell it

[warm torrent]

d....e.....a....

[sturdy acorn]

no no i know i was kidding

i just got an identical trio of hives on each of my elbows

this show is giving me a physical reaction

the power of two…

why the fuck was there a title card for coruscant????? we’ve been here a million times?????????

[warm torrent]

because star wars fans are stupid

[sturdy acorn]

dude what the fuck is vernestra’s deal

[sturdy acorn]

ohh ok that makes sense

this senator character is annoying too, not like him himself but the way they push in on him as he monologues about the jedi it feels like they’re patting themselves on the back for writing this crazy takedown

it doesnt help that this guy has been only mentioned once so he just appears out of nowhere with this huge stance, this feels like something that should be established properly like halfway thru the season not last minute

good thing we got episode 3.5 after episode 6 tho we needed that

[warm torrent]

See you're forgetting, they don't have to finish the first season, that's all for season 2

[sturdy acorn]

maybe episode 3 and 7 were foreshadowing for the format of the series

season 2 will be half copy pasted from s1

the rest will be plagueis twiddling his thumbs in a cave

[warm torrent]

I can't wait to see the senator scene from his perspective

[sturdy acorn]

he’s actually voodoo-ing the senator

he does a silly voice for him and giggles

wait

thats where we see plagueis in this episode??

what 😭

[warm torrent]

Yeah that's it

[sturdy acorn]

i saw the pic of him poking out the cave but

i figured it’d be like near the end of the episode

or like

have any relation to anything going on

[warm torrent]

Nope

[sturdy acorn]

OH MY GOD I WANT TO FUCKING PUNT BAZIL INTO THE SUN

[warm torrent]

||There's a different glup shitto at the end||

[sturdy acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-asshole-star-wars-colon-gif-16910626

[craggy hawk]

Yoda is like the most famous star wars character how is he a glup shitto

[warm torrent]

I suppose so but he's presented like a glup shitto

[sturdy acorn]

i think it counts

[warm torrent]

It's a glup shitto moment

[sturdy acorn]

glup shitto is generally unknown but the moment is equally important

point and wojak

its an art

very delicate

[craggy hawk]

Ah he has a glup shitto aura in the scene

[warm torrent]

that's the power of one

you know that's also kinda funny, the jedi are also many

In fact most of the time there's two of them

[sturdy acorn]

rey is the last jedi.. power of one

[warm torrent]

finn?

[sturdy acorn]

nah he just uses the force when he doesnt wanna get up and walk to the fridge

thats the vibe tros gives with how they handle him

[warm torrent]

based tbh

[sturdy acorn]

maybe that’ll be in my rewrite

finn inexplicably grabs a can of Glup Kola with the force and never uses it again

thank u acolyte fights i love u acolyte fights

and this one isnt even constantly cut up

incredible

[shadow siren]

Yeah I'm head over heels in love with this show, but even I have to admit Torbin's a badly written character