#The Acolyte

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radiant meteor
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I honestly was not expecting that.

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So far, here are my rankings for each episode:

E1: 6/10
E2: 6/10
E3: 4/10
E4: 6.5/10
E5: 7/10

rose schooner
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Saw a lot of people online predict Qimir was the Sith

radiant meteor
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I honestly can’t pay attention to anything regarding the show online right now.

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Both positive and negative.

pale jewel
radiant meteor
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Maybe I just don’t care about theorizing anymore.

rose schooner
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Yeah earlier I expressed basically the same thing

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The Qimir reveal was the most obvious thing

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In the last episode you can see him put a lightsaber in his bag

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My theory is that Qimir is Tenebrous’ first apprentice

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I don’t think he’s gonna survive at all in this show

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I reckon he will die at the end, Mae or Osha kills him but Sol dies, and the Jedi write him off as a mad lunatic pretender

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Tenebrous loses his apprentice and has to look elsewhere, which leads him too Plagueis

bronze tinsel
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I'm 8 mins in...

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The lightsaber fights are really good

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Too bad they keep cutting away from them fhaeRage

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What amateur edited this??

shadow siren
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This is probably an unpopular opinion, but

bronze tinsel
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It's not even snappy cuts

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They do the swipes like it's a long cut to establish a different scene

shadow siren
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...I think Acolyte is my favorite of the Star Wars TV shows and heavily rivals the films for me.

rose schooner
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I still think Mandalorian season 1 is my favorite live action Star Wars tv show

shadow siren
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I did like Mando S1 a heck of a lot, for sure!

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But Acolyte... It's resonating with me in ways Star Wars never has

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I love and care about these characters and what they're going through

bronze tinsel
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Respect

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14 mins in

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Wish this show was just about Sol and his padawan investigating some weird dark stuff

shadow siren
# bronze tinsel What amateur edited this??

I like the editing in the early fights, actually. It gives a sense of utter confusion, and puts us into the shoes of these Jedi masters that are being utterly blindsided by this one guy and have no clue how or why.

bronze tinsel
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Eh.. nah, it just makes me wanna puke xD

shadow siren
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Respect :)

bronze tinsel
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Even they stopped doing the weird edits

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It's back to just going instantly from one scene to the other

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Osha's like "Gotta go back" and then we go back instantly to the fight, instead of another weird screen swipe

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It doesn't make me sick anymore

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OH SHIT SHE'S DEAD fhaeS

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And evil dude turns out was evil dude

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OH SHIT HE IS DEAD NOW

pale jewel
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I will say all the people who bitch about how “People don’t die from lightsabers anymore.” Please stop talking after seeing this episode

bronze tinsel
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I mean, you gotta admit

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For a while they did make a lot of people survive being impaled

pale jewel
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Tru

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Only one I’ll say was bullshit really was Sabine surviving her stab wound

bronze tinsel
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And girl from Obi-Wan when kid

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What even was her name?

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Reamus?

trim path
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The double Jedi impaling was insane

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Also canon cortosis lessgo

bronze tinsel
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Man, the twins are so extra...

craggy hawk
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pale jewel
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Wait

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I wasn't even talking about that impaling

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I meant when she was a kid at the Jedi temple

trim path
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The twins are the worst part of this show

craggy hawk
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Osha and Mae are very boring

craggy hawk
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Fr

pale jewel
bronze tinsel
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Anakin impaled her when she was a kid

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She should have died there

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Regardless of how you feel about the second impaling when she's an adult

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Anyway, the twins suck

pale jewel
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I need to rewatch kenobi now

bronze tinsel
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Holy shit, they're gonna it

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They're gonna blame the Jedi for killing all the witches

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LOL

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"THEY BRAINWASHED YOU"

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GIRL, YOU SET HER ROOM ON FIRE RIGHT AFTER TELLING HER YOU'D KILL HER

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I hate the twins

pale jewel
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Do we know how old Qimir is?

bronze tinsel
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This episode went from a solid 8 to like a 3

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This hug scene is so trash

craggy hawk
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who's Qimir?

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Oh, sith dude?

craggy hawk
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The Master

bronze tinsel
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He was really good

craggy hawk
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Yeah

pale jewel
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Main reason I didn't think he wouldn't be the master is because he came across as a wimp

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Qimir is defo not making it out alive this season

craggy hawk
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Then without the mask.. dude was creepy AF

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High props on the actor

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He pulled both versions of the character really well

pale jewel
craggy hawk
craggy hawk
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But it'd be extremely early in his Sith apprentice career to already plot his takeover and his own apprentice

bronze tinsel
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LOOK AT HER FACE

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Oh, she turned on her fhaeCool

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I'll give her that much

craggy hawk
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Yeah

bronze tinsel
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Mae is an idiot

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And Osha is..

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I don't even know

shadow siren
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I love 'em both. They're just dumb kids thrust into a fucked-up world, trying their best to figure shit out.

bronze tinsel
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I can't stand them

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Like...

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Respect but

craggy hawk
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I'm sure they'll grow on me

bronze tinsel
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I just can't stand them xD

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craggy hawk
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So much can happen between then and now

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shadow siren
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Even then, just 'cuz you hate 'em now, doesn't mean you will forever

Everyone loves the prequels now

bronze tinsel
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Vi and Powder's story is heartbreaking

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This is a sloppy novela

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I always liked the prequels Sus

pale jewel
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bronze tinsel
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At least Harrison and Adam are better actors

shadow siren
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zinc geode
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Was that Kylo's theme or am I going crazy

bronze tinsel
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Now THAT is a sisterhood story worth telling

zinc geode
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no

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Arcane is dead

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the end

pale jewel
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I cried so fking much with Arcane

shadow siren
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Mae did the thing where she changes clothes

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And you're not telling me..

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That Sol can't tell she's not the same person

shadow siren
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I have a feeling that he knows.

bronze tinsel
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I hope so

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I feel he'd know

shadow siren
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First off, note how he didn't say "where's Mae", he said "where's your sister"

bronze tinsel
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Qimir could tell them appart after 5 mins of talking, so I'm hoping

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Also the smell creature

shadow siren
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The show has already proven to use subtle hints and bring good twists that way, so I'm pretty sure Sol is fully aware of Mae's sloppy deception attempt.

shadow siren
bronze tinsel
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Alright, episode done

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I think the show is trash, but has good things on it

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I can't stand the twins, I really like Sol, the episode was honestly really good except for the segments with the twins, Qimir is honestly a really good villain, and I'll say this much: I wanna see where the story takes him and Sol

shadow siren
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I think it's too bad that you're not into it, but respect.

bronze tinsel
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Manny Jacinto is the name of Qimir's actor, good to know

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He was amazing

bronze tinsel
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Oh and...

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It took them 10 years

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But they finally got the lightsaber duels right

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They were really good

pale jewel
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I think the show is okay

shadow siren
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as long as I'm not getting insulted, abused or threatened for liking the Star Wars thing this time ahaha

bronze tinsel
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Nah, we like what we like

pale jewel
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There’s a few nitpicks I have here and there but it’s not terrible

pale jewel
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Like...

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Unironically one of my favorite SW games ever

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I'll take it any day over the Farce Unleashed games

shadow siren
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I didn't play that until later in life, and couldn't get into it. It seems like "jank you had to be there for".

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I probably would have loved it a lot if I had played it as a kid, though. It seems like something I'd have been right into.

pale jewel
bronze tinsel
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"jank you had to be there for"

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Yes

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lol

shadow siren
pale jewel
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My first Star Wars Game was the first Force Unleashed game which is ehhh

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I prefer the second one cuz you can dismember people and do horrible shit with the Jedi Mind Trick

shadow siren
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I enjoyed the first TFU game for what it was, though it was pretty tedious. Definitely a "one level per night" kinda game, like if I were to go back to it I'd treat it like a children's storybook

pale jewel
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I liked cuz it’s basically God of War for kids

shadow siren
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Also this is the second time in a week that someone disagreed with me but added "respectfully", and I really like this trend because it's helping me to come to terms with the fact that being wrong doesn't make me dumb or bad

pale jewel
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Same

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This is why I love this server

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Everyone here is like that Superman meme

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You know I hope on day we get to Starkiller in Canon again

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Cuz I wanna see Sam in live action

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Don’t count maul cuz Maul was CGI

shadow siren
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Oh Maul, sweet Maul.

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TCW Maul was ruined for me when I realized something about him.

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He's an incredibly evil man that speaks in a deep British voice, he's intent on getting fatal vengeance against one of the main characters who wronged him, he comes up with cockamamie schemes to get back at this character before actually doing the killing

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Sound familiar?

pale jewel
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Maul iirc is supposed to be a representation of Sisyphus

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With Obi Wan being his ball

shadow siren
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Huh.. that makes a lot of sense actually

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especially given the mythic inspirations behind the franchise itself

pale jewel
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Yeah Freddie Prinze Jr was actually the one to talk about it

shadow siren
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"So go fuck yourself if you disagree" is the exact opposite energy to what I expected ahaha

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Do better, Fred from Scooby Doo :(

craggy hawk
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Kanan's opinion on Maul after he got blinded by him

pale jewel
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It’s because of this clip whenever I see someone post a “Who would win.” thing on Reddit I always respond with “Whoever the Force Wills.”

bronze tinsel
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omg I just remembered

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Mae last episode: I'll turn myself in
Mae this episode: She runs away then impersonates her sister

pale jewel
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Yeah I noticed that too

bronze tinsel
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I don't like the twins Sus

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Anyway, sorry about that

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I also just realized... omg

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Mae's like "My allegience is to my sister" she says

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Then runs away despite her being in danger

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Jecki had barely known her and died trying to protect her

pale jewel
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I love her actress

bronze tinsel
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Jecki? Yeah

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She learned her choreography

pale jewel
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Only fitting that she dies from a stab/impaling wound

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Like father like daughter

bronze tinsel
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Oh

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Wait, she was Logan's kid?

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I guess she'd be old enough now, huh?

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I liked her in that movie too

pale jewel
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Thank Christ (hopefully) the characters from Young Jedi Adventures are dead from old age by now

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Imagine seeing them get fuckin mowed down by Qimir

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bronze tinsel
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I'll say... if the Jedi massacred an entire clan of witches, that's gonna befomre the first time since Disney took over that I'm legit gonna rise an eyebrow.

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Lucas made a clear distinction between good and evil. The Jedi are good.

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If they massacred an entire people, then they're objectively not good, but that completely messes the concept of a Jedi forever.

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Anakin did massacre and entire village and then everyone in the temple, but that's the point with him. The dark side took over and we got Darth Vader. If it turns out Sol and the others murdered every witch, then what's the difference? It will completely contradict what Lucas established the Jedi to be.

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Their hubris became their demise, but that's far from committing genocide to then take two girls.

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So I just hope they don't go that route.

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I hope Qimir showed up and murdered everyone and then framed them or something. Then it makes sense and I can roll with it.

minor junco
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I think it’ll be a misunderstanding/mutual fault of the Jedi and witches coming to blows.

bronze tinsel
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I can roll with that

minor junco
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They have been shown to be very sketchy themselves

bronze tinsel
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I just don't like how hard they seem to be implying that Sol apparently did something horrible or whatever

pale jewel
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I don’t think the Jedi did it

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I think the Sith Lord was grooming Mae to be his acolyte since she was a little girl

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And when he started the fire the witches thought the Jedi did it and they went to blows

bronze tinsel
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I like that theory

minor junco
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I think he may have actually been manipulating the witches from the start

bronze tinsel
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Maybe that's why Mae seemed so derranged since childhood

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And why the Witches were all like "FROM MY POINT OF VIEW THE JEDI ARE EVIL"

pale jewel
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Also what Osha said in this episode?

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The Sith Lord was able to get into the heads of the Jedi

bronze tinsel
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Her mom could do it

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Maybe the Sith Lord taught her how to

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"When the demonic Jedi come, invade their mind with this magic trick"

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And she was like: "But how"

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And he goes: "The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some conssider to be......... HG_PalpSmile HG_PalpSmile HG_PalpSmile HG_PalpSmile unnatural"

minor junco
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While the show definitely shows the Jedi as flawed, I also got the idea that they’re still meant to be good overall.

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Our very first exposure to them in the show is Indara completely clowning on Mae in their fight and only dying due to holding back on killing her and prioritizing saving a random bystander

pale jewel
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I saw some criticism on Twitter about how the Jedi didn’t sense who the Sith Lord was

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And I’m like… Bruh…

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Got like 4 Members of the council here and none of them could sense him

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I don’t remember if Luminara or Kit were members of the council

minor junco
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Kit was, I think Luminara wasn’t

bronze tinsel
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Nah, the Ki-Adi thing is totally intentional

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He's probably part of a cover up

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Wich... eh fhaeShrug

near pulsar
round isle
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a Cortosis helmet, neat.

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shadow siren
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The Lightsaber choreography in this episode was cooking fr

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Gave off SWTOR cinematic vibes

near pulsar
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(It was made canon in new dawn and in the aphra comics)

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I believe it was also mentioned in thrawn alliances

royal lake
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It also was a major plot point in the novel Master And Apprentice.

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A couple of tidbits from the novel:
1- it's actually possible to build anti-cortosis failsafes but it's rare enough that Jedi in that time don't bother, most aren't even aware it exists;
2- false kyber produces a weak blade compared to real kyber but it isn't affected by cortosis.

rose schooner
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So are people gonna stop calling it The Acol-Shite then?

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zinc geode
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This series is always at its peak when it focuses on the action

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Clearly the best thing about this show

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The choreographer works overtime

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zinc geode
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I don’t know who choreographed the action scenes with The Acolyte but whoever it is bring them back for other projects 😭

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I like how in many of these action scenes the Jedi will only use a saber as a last resort unless it’s a Sith

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Makes the moments with a saber feel that much cooler

near pulsar
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Hmmmmm

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near pulsar
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Since it was talked about before, Jason fighting style is Tràkata

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So yeah, it's canon again

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I think cal and marrok have specifically used one or two Tràkata moves. But yeah, fully canon now

pale jewel
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Anyways yeah the fight was neat but I'm still not a fan of this writing

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Yord and Jecki barely got to do shit before dying

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I don't know why it's so hard for Mae to just go "Osha I didn't kill our parents"

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Like either she did and still thinks she was forced to by the Jedi being there in which case I have zero sympathy for her, or she didn't and she's just being vague and cryptic for no reason.

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The Sith is neat and all

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I just don't get what the end goal here is, the Sith are still no matter what very very evil

rose schooner
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It felt weird having Qimir say “according to you I’m not allowed to exist”

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Like this is the language of a marginalized group

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And it’s weird to have a Sith say it

zinc geode
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Has I watched episode 3 to episode 5 in one go it became very apparent to me that the writers have some good ideas but very much struggle with translating them into dialogue. The lines don’t feel natural and you can feel a lack of personality and energy from the show.

rose schooner
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Like, what is the show trying to say about the use of the dark side?

zinc geode
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As I’ve said before this show is at its best during the action sequences

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The reason this episode felt a lot better compared to some of the previous was because it was a lot more action oriented and that’s something the creators really knew what they were doing with

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Easily some of the best fight choreography we have seen with StarWars and the way it’s filmed makes it easy to observe and appreciate the techniques used.

peak kayak
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I guess maybe, but he was just going on about how the Jedi decide who gets to use what power so I figured he was extending that into according to their rules no one like him should use his power the way he does

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Therefore he shouldn't exist

rose schooner
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Yeah it feels like the Jedi are painted as reactionaries who fight dark side users right away

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Which like...yeah. No one should just murder indiscriminately

peak kayak
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Party pooper

zinc geode
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This season is 8 episodes right?

rose schooner
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Yep. A good amount for a season

zinc geode
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I was worried for a second it was going to be 6

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Like he's criticizing rules like using restraint, not attacking first, and not fighting dirty. But again, those are good rules and what I'd hope for from space cops.

peak kayak
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It feels longer than 4 episodes for some reason

zinc geode
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The pacing is still weird but at least that gives it a bit more time to flesh out the ideas

rose schooner
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It’s been 5

peak kayak
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Oh right, last week wasn’t the flashback

zinc geode
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It was a episode where the Jedi hiked

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And they hiked some more

peak kayak
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Forest adventure part 1

rose schooner
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Tolkien influences

zinc geode
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Spiritual successor to the Ewok Movies

rose schooner
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Which to the fans means top tier

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Throwback to when everyone thought the idea of Ahsoka the White was amazing

peak kayak
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According to the elves, I shouldn’t exist

rose schooner
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I, too, love when characters I watch turn out to be characters I already watched in something else

near pulsar
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I take it more as the jedi don't tolerate any use of the force that doesn't aline with their world view. Jason didn't really start actively killing anybody or act sith like until his identity was actively at risk, which would result in him being hunted by the jedi and having to kill them anyway.

peak kayak
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Forget telling people to kill themselves, tell people they shouldn’t exist

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He sent Mae to kill four people HG_YodaLaugh

zinc geode
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If this was a Filoni directed show you could almost guarantee there would be random talking wolves in those woods

peak kayak
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Circle that was a prank. The camera is right there

rose schooner
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Qimir is just misunderstood. Like Kylo Ren.

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I’m legit surprised Phil Balonie hasn’t done anything with Wolfman Jedi Voolvif Mon

near pulsar
# warm torrent He sent Mae to kill four people <:HG_YodaLaugh:618548854014345226>

Hey, he didn't do it himself HG_YodaLaugh

But like the clear implication is that he wants to exist and pass on his knowledge to a pupil. Though also seemingly has a connection to the witches and was wronged by the jedi. And is attempting to get back at them and only them. Not wanting to go out of his way to make a enemy of the entire order until it was out of his control

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Right but his motivations for existing outside the Jedi seems to be that he wants to be more evil. Like we need to see more clear Jedi doctrines that are bad. Maybe say they do execute prisoner Force users, or that they serve the Senate which pushes for colonizing smaller systems, or that they use excessive force when apprehending people, anything to make them look bad.

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It'd be one thing if it was implied you aren't allowed to leave the order, but Osha did. She's a Force user, she left, she's just chilling now. Her life may not be perfect, but Mae made it sound like she had it worse than anyone else in the galaxy when she seemed like her life was pretty normal.

near pulsar
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I don't really think you need that though, when the yikes elements of the jedi have been well established during the novels, clone wars and prequels. And this is explicitly the time period when all that began in full force

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You gotta love how the cracks are right there but the Jedi are just gonna go back to immediately ignoring it after it’s all done

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I'm still personally of the belief that a solid 2/3s of the yikes elements were more fans reading into it than genuine clear examples

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Like the whole "oh they kidnap kids thing" has never come up as a blanket negative yet, like we don't see families scared to lose their kid, or refusing and then the Jedi try to steal them with Force, things that would showcase why it's bad.

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Instead there's usually an implication that the families consider it an honor.

rose schooner
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I think the show might be hinting at Sol being what people like to think Luke was in The Last Jedi flashback

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And the only times the Jedi don't take them as toddlers they end up becoming evil anyways.

rose schooner
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Like, execute a youth filled with the dark side instead of trying to heal them

near pulsar
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It has been shown though through various arcs of the clone wars and even touched upon in rebels

zinc geode
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Pray to god Rey actually creates a successful Jedi Order for once that doesn’t repeat the same exact mistakes the last 4 decades of Jedi did

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If anything the majority of the CW strived to show how good the Jedi were.

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Up until the Ahsoka arc at least

rose schooner
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Ahsoka’s fugitive arc comes to mind

zinc geode
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I wish I could better aid this conversation but I haven’t watched TCW as a whole in a solid second

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But I remember the later seasons being especially torn on the Jedi

rose schooner
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They call Osha a civilian similar to Ahsoka

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More so the Republic

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The Republic was very much called into question a lot

near pulsar
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You have the cad bane arc with the children, which I think is explicit and you have everything with ahsoka highlighting how the jedi took children and turned them into weapons (same with the jedi games), and rebels touched on it with ezra training and when the inquisitors were taking children.

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See to me though showing the bad guys stealing children isn't really painting the Jedi as villains

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If anything it's highlighting how in the Jedi's absence bad people started scooping up kids, especially with the First Order

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If the Jedi were around during the ST, Finn wouldn't have been a stormtrooper

near pulsar
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I don't paticularly think it paints them as villians. Just that they were incredibly up their own ass and fail to see the rise of the sith through their own arrogance and failures (plus becoming too much of a pawn for the goverment).
Which is you know, beginning here with there clearly going to be a cover up of Jason existance.

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His name isn't Jason right?

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That's just what we're calling him cause of the Good Place yeah?

near pulsar
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No, but its funny to think that this is what happened to him after the good place

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Okay cool just making sure I didn't miss something

zinc geode
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I love The Good Place

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It’s hard for me to take the dude seriously because of that show lmao

rose schooner
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Jason Solo

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But he’s a good actor

rose schooner
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Jason Syndulla

zinc geode
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Bortles

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Completely irrelevant side note but the fact that they presented Jason has a Buddhist monk who took a vow of silence only for him to be revealed has the most golden retriever ass dude is hilarious

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For a sitcom that show’s plot twists were some top quality shit

near pulsar
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And then to end the show with him basically achieving enlightenment HG_YodaLaugh

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But yeah I don't think it's wrong to say that the Jedi were arrogant and blind to see the fascism rising up around them, I just think that it's hard to see their stupidity as equivalent to the Sith actively seeking out to do harm and create instability. I think this show could've easily just shown the witch cult as their own thing, the Jedi come in and destroy it despite it presenting little to no threat, taking Osha to train her while losing Mae, and then Mae starts a path down becoming a Sith and gets radicalized through them. I don't know why they needed to make the witches seem somewhat bad, or why they needed to show Mae being evil beforehand, or why they need to pretend Qimir has a point, to me the Sith are always going to be the bigger threat. The Jedi may have failed to stop Palpatine, but if Palpatine wasn't there to begin with maybe the Empire wouldn't have happened.

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Fucking phone

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Auto correct will kill me

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Forking phone fr

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Pobody's nerfect

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Anyway, I think I'm gonna get Jason helmet. Shits cool as fuck

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Also it would be really funny if he ends up being a founder of the knights of ren

rose schooner
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Would be funny if the show ended with Baby Tenebrous being taken in as an prentice

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Just a little baby with a bulbous head

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You know for Jecki being a younger Jedi she held her own fairly well up until that final bit

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If it wasn’t for that dual lightsaber maneuver she might have actually had a solid shot

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I mean I figured she was doomed the moment his helmet came off

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I will say that was the only time I felt like Qimir had a point, when Sol said she was just a child and he said "you brought her here"

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I’m still caught off guard by that Kylo Ren Motif at the end

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Wonder if that has an actual significance in the long run or if it was just used to signify darkness

shadow siren
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YORD

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NO

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YORD ;A;

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Everyone's favorite himbo :c

dim hill
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I know they all had to die.. but I really didn’t think they would all die

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But at least we finally got a really good episode

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It was cool the way his armor(?) was able to like disable the lightsabers. The whole fight felt really fresh

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Kind of sucks that they killed two of the most personable characters halfway through the season

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Interested to see how this affects things going forward

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Watching this episode made me also wish the show went in a different direction where instead it’s them being trapped in this forest with the Sith hunting them down (or something like that)

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The guy who played Yord kind of started to grow on me overtime

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Feel like they killed the character maybe a little too early

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Jecki while kind of crazy at least makes sense as far as emotional stakes go

dim hill
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Yeah

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They really just needed more time to cook or more episodes to work with

zinc geode
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This episode really wanted the shock factor for better or worse

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It’s nice not actually knowing whether a character is going to die or not

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Or not thinking about how it plays into continuity

dim hill
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Yeah

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Also, I’m a little lost on Qimirs whole motives with stuff. So he’s a sith who embraced the darkness and just wants to be strong and powerful.. and then just have an apprentice for fun?

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Seeing some speculation that Qimir might be starting the knights of ren, hence why they Kylo Ren theme plays

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Master sol arriving alone at the Jedi temple...

clever hinge
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You could say he was the Sol Survivor

cursive glacier
# shy raptor

Guess you can say he was the Solar System all along

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Ki Adi Mundi went into the 2nd place spot for most hated jedi for me

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#1 is Mace

cursive glacier
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You have hated SW characters?

peak kayak
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What about pong krell?

shy raptor
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He’s on his own special list lol

shy raptor
rose schooner
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Throwback to when people thought Sabine Wren and Ezra Bridger would form the Knights of Ren

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rose schooner
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That too. Silly humans

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Also people thinking DJ could be Ezra

pale jewel
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DJ?

craggy hawk
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Benicio del Toro's character from The Last Jedi

rose schooner
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Don’t Join

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TBH I kind of don’t get why people say Sol is the best character on the show. Kinda feels like another Baylan Skoll situation to me in that I’m not sure what makes their acting a lot better than everyone else.

peak kayak
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He’s charming and fatherly

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I think Qimir is the best so far

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He's super entertaining

near pulsar
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The people yearn for silly men

cursive glacier
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What people Nerd1

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Society if star wars fans were more like blind wave

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rose schooner
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Yeah I think this season was designed as a self contained story just in case

radiant meteor
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How likely is it gonna get a S2?

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If we’re being quite honest?

rose schooner
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How are the viewing figures?

radiant meteor
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I haven’t checked

rose schooner
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Guess we’ll never know

peak kayak
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I’m guessing if they don’t have grand plans, there won’t be a season 2 for this

rose schooner
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Do season 2 but make it animated

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Better yet, anime-ted

peak kayak
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Dump all live action for animated HailElmo

rose schooner
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Based

radiant meteor
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I wonder if the upcoming Rey movie will be even more controversial than The Acolyte

pale jewel
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I remember hearing rumors that the main villain was gonna be played by Idris Elba soooooo……

rose schooner
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My fan theory is the Filoni movie will be the controversial one

radiant meteor
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How so?

radiant meteor
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I think it’d be cool tbh.

rose schooner
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radiant meteor
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Ok

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That and good writing are what’ll make him a good character.

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Never heard of them

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Sad

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They must all be dead or something

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Qimir is such a menace

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Best character in the show

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The neck snap was so dumb

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The wait for Tuesday sucks

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The wait for Monday for me

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Star Trek Prodigy let’s goooo!

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Enjoyed ep5. I thought the fights where well choreographed, although I feel like I liked the prequels a bit more. I'll give it they are much more dynamic with all the punching and switching and all that but Idk why it felt like it overspun or delayed itself too much in places. It might be bias talking but it's hard to explain, it's like they stop for the stance too much. Nevertheless, the effects were pretty well made and I think did a good job at hiding the set's size and artificial elements bar the morning scene(ground didn't look real and the lighting was weird for some reason).
I'm not sure how I feel about Jecki and Yor's deaths, the later I was already starting to take a liking in the last episode but this came a bit as shock value more than anything. That ep3 flashback ep really robbed a lot of the time these characters needed. It really feels like this show needed more time, like 16 eps, at least if it wanted to take full advantage of these characters and points of view. I really like Qimir's speech about being a monster because the jedi say so, it's a nice parallel to the witches, I just don't feel like the these philosophies are going to get the time they need to be explored in a satisfying way.
I do wonder what Sol's deal is because if they are going to reveal he set that fire out of prejudice it's going to give me whiplash as he came off as the most patient of the 4.
Also I do wonder how they are going to tackle Sol's potential report because it has to somehow fit in with extinct sith narrative and this isn't an incident you can just write off.

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Now I'd like to make a small nitpicky rant. What the Fuck is up with this planet's day and night cycle, they arrive at the hut as it gets dark, then Osha gets knocked out, gets up, flees and comes back in what must have been at most 3 hours and in that time it gets up, but then when they get to the ship it's mid day lighting but morning lighting where osha is. It might not be linear time presentation but it's being distracting to me and I need to mention it.

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I wonder if they’ll say the planet is smaller than Earth or something

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Which would be ridiculous. Everyone knows every planet in Star Wars is Earth-sized probably

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The lighting of the show i just haven’t been a fan of overall

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It's been poorly handled across the board. Maybe the crew in charge of that are rockies or it's a limitation of the techniques they are using. Might also have something to deal with making the VFX crew's life easier

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What’s your overall rating so far for The Acolyte?

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Like from a 1 to a 10?

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So far a 6, after the past 2 episodes it's getting interesting

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But I don't really care for the Mae and Osha plotline

rose schooner
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For me I’d say 7 overall

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But it’s a US 7, so I guess UK 5.

weary schooner
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too early to tell. A lot of whar I need out of the show to feel satisfied might or might not come later. I'd say it's oscillating at 5, going sometimes at 5.7 and others at 4.5

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This episode was enjoyable but I still need to ruminate a bit on it and it doesn't make up for the rest of the series so far

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In general a 5. For SW, maybe a 3

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I have hope with all the Sith stuff

pale jewel
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So what do y’all think the connection is between Kylo Ren and The Stranger?

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He probably makes the Knights of Ren

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Probably the First Ren

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Starting episode 6

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I’ve never seen squid games but even without it I fuckin love Lee Jung-Jae

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I remember reading that he had learned English specially for this role

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||LMAO NOW I SEE HOW HES RELATED TO KYLO||

rose schooner
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The Acolshite

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As the breathing commenced into the end credits, I let out a heavy sigh of eye roll

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So far it’s an alright episode nothing really exciting tho

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||Wait he lives in a cortosis vein?||

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Huh so that’s where he got it from

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The planet has to be Ahch-To

pale jewel
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I wonder what Battu is like during the high republic era

craggy hawk
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Wasn't it considered abandoned until the sequel trilogy

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Yea

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Nvm i looked it up and it had a Jedi Outpost on it during the High Republic Era

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It was still small

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Nothing much happened

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Ah gotcha

peak kayak
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Remember this is like 100 years until the prequels

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"Unknown planet" That's helpful

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It's gotta be Ahch-To

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The little thingies definitely looked like thala sirens

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Nothing really happened this episode, I'm getting real tired of Sol standing around going "I'm gonna tell you guys what happened...it's about time you knew...I've waited forever to tell you these things....the moment hasn't been right until now...no more secrets...."

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Yeah I think this is my least favorite episode of the entire series

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I think the flashback episode frustrated me more just on the basis that it undermined like all the set up, but this episode certainly felt like the most empty and pointless so far

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Flashback episode is my favorite actually. Just wish it had been the first episode

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I just think end of the day this show's dialogue is just not good

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I don't understand what the point of the "but you get nauseous when going through hyperspace" joke was. It was just so out of place and didn't match the tone of anything that was happening.

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SELKATH SPOTTED

craggy hawk
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That was seen back in Episode 1 or 2

round isle
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I know. But still happy to see him again

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Valid

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Was KOTOR the first time they were seen?

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yes

radiant meteor
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Can someone translate it?

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It...is translated

radiant meteor
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Oh. Ok. Never mind. Sorry.

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I didn’t see it.

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It’s very much the first Knight of Ren for sure.

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I knew about it once I saw Qimir at the end of E4.

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I hope the next/final two episodes confirms it.

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Another excellent episode. I don't know why LFL greenlit a Star Wars show tailor-made for me and literally nobody else, but I'm not complaining.

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I'm pretty sure there's nothing I dislike about this show. I'm on cloud nine. So excellent.

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The only reason I hope we don't see more shows like this is that it would make other people upset. And I don't want that!

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Out of curiosity, what do you think the show is about?

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Finished with 6

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I don't think this show understands what a Sith and a Jedi are

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If they acted differently, then they're no loger a Sith or a Jedi

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Meh fhaeShrug

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A compasionate Sith is impossible by definition

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That person would no longer be a Sith at that point

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Sorry, I intruded

shadow siren
# warm torrent Out of curiosity, what do you think the show is about?

I think it's a deep dive into the dichotomy of the Force that the Jedi and the Sith have created for themselves, and the fact that deeper truths about it exist beyond the nature of light and dark. The Force is not about good or evil, the Force is about balance. Neither the Jedi nor the Sith truly comprehend this, and both struggle to even understand their own sides this early on.

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No but.. there is good and evil

shadow siren
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Also I just love the characters. All of them. I'm not sorry.

bronze tinsel
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George explained these concepts years ago

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Good and evil in the galaxy are very well defined

shadow siren
bronze tinsel
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This isn't about interpreting some ancient historical texts

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Well, that's my point

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This show fundamentally fails to understand what Sith and Jedi are

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This isn't even my opinion, it's what the guy who invented this universe decided were the rules

shadow siren
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Or maybe -- and hear me out -- they're using the High Republic era as a chance to show us the earlier days, before they were solidified as the rigid constructs of good and evil we see closer to 0 BBY.

bronze tinsel
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Not really, no

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I dunno, I disagree with you and that's that. Sorry my opinions are so bad, guess I'm just a shit fan.

bronze tinsel
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No but

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This isn't my opinion

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And I didn't call you anything, what???

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Hey now no one's saying that anyone's a shit fan

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We're all friends here

shadow siren
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This is just usually when people tell me to kill myself, so I was preparing for it

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I'm sorry

bronze tinsel
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Obi Wan says in A New Hope, that the Jedi were the guardians of peace and justice for a thousand generations.

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Yoda lived for 900 years

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bronze tinsel
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The Jedi are good, that's the point

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The Sith are evil, that's the point

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But yeah I get what you're both saying

bronze tinsel
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But the thing is.. this isn't my opinion, I'm just quoting Lucas

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It's like... imagine someone made a Lord of the Rings show where they say that "Actually, Sauron wasn't evil. Tolkien was wrong"

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I think in a literal sense, yes the Force isn't like taking sides. In terms of the story, the Jedi are just kinda like almost always right so it's hard to see why they're on equal grounds as wrong as the Sith are aside from the fact that the Force doesn't really side with any one person or group.

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Cause I don't really get what balance is if not a state of peace and harmony, which the Jedi protect. Unless it means equal horrible to good which I don't really get either.

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Cause I don't really get what balance is if not a state of peace and harmony, which the Jedi protect

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Yeah, that's it

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The Sith are selfish, the Jedi are selfless

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The Clone Wars era Jedi were blinded by the Dark Side, but they were not evil

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I think the intention is showing how the Jedi do things that are unnnecessary in the name of peace, like taking kids and training them, and I suppose I'm curious to see how Qimir was supposedly corrupted by the Jedi. But until him, most Sith seem like they're usually corrupted by leaving the path of the Jedi. And Mae was just mean beforehand anyways.

bronze tinsel
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I think the intention is showing how the Jedi do things that are unnnecessary in the name of peace

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They wouldn't

shadow siren
bronze tinsel
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And that's why this show just doesn't understand what the Jedi are

bronze tinsel
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This isn't an ancient text that many can interpret

warm torrent
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No that's not a fair statement

bronze tinsel
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This is something some dude created with the rules he created

warm torrent
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You're allowed to interpret the story differently cause Lucas changed his mind too

bronze tinsel
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You're slipping into "Good is a point of view, Anakin" territory

shadow siren
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Yeah Lucas was kind of infamous for changing his mind ahaha

bronze tinsel
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Not false lol

shadow siren
bronze tinsel
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Well, cause Palps is insane

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And he's evil lol

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Anakin shut him down

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Leia wasn't originally Luke's sister, half the story was suggestions and drafts from other people, the prequels weren't planned to have characters like Boba Fett, things change and every writer can interpret the lore differently and the fans can interpret things how they chose too.

bronze tinsel
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Oh that's funny

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People are like "LUCAS NEVER RECTON ANYTHING"

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Like Leia and Luke were always meant to be siblings, even in New Hope xD

shadow siren
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Not to mention the famous what-coulda-beens, like Jabba was just some human dude, Luke was originally conceptualized as a retired army general, Han Solo was a lizard man, etc

bronze tinsel
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Oh but that's pre-production

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bronze tinsel
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Also, if you asked me what the show is about: It's about showing that "From my point of view, the Jedi are evil"

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That's the best way I can put it fhaeShrug

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It's.. weird

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I think they can definitely play with the idea that the Jedi have done wrong, I just don't think they're doing it in a very cohesive way personally.

shadow siren
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I think the Brother is just natural greed and selfishness that comes with existence.

bronze tinsel
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Brother definitely isn't keeping the sister in check xD

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Also, you can't really kill the darkness, or evil

cursive glacier
bronze tinsel
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You need good to keep it under control. Don't let it win

shadow siren
bronze tinsel
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I think the idea is that when you create life it has a tendency to seek to extinguish other life forms. That jealousy, fear, anger, and hatred are all natural emotions and that you have to learn to control them so you don't start killing people. The Force needs life forms to exist, but if someone uses the Force to kill people then it's just killing the Force essentially. So to me the only real time it intervenes is by gifting individuals capable of goodness with higher power.

bronze tinsel
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Anyway, @shadow siren not saying you can't enjoy the show or anything. I just don't think it does a good job understanding Jedi and Sith, so I'm at a bit of a loss with it.

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I don't think I even dislike the show as much as I'm finding hard to take it seriously, so.. I dunno

cursive glacier
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Does the show talk about the Midiclorians? kazo

bronze tinsel
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Not YET HG_AniLaugh

cursive glacier
bronze tinsel
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I also really dislike the Twins. Qimir I find rather interesting, and the other character I liked seems to be going through some kind of psychotic episode and I don't know what to make of that either (Sol)

shadow siren
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You're right in that Star Wars isn't ancient texts, but that's what makes it so much fun for me - they're fictional stories. Anyone can interpret them however they please, as far as I'm concerned. The rules grow and shift as new ideas are introduced, and I'm always down for new ideas. I may not always like those ideas (Solo and Ahsoka are two projects I REALLY don't like) but I will never hate something just for "contradicting what came before". It's a space fairy tale. It's allowed to change. :)

bronze tinsel
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Well.. I pose this question then

cursive glacier
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Why again have the story set so close to the Skywalker saga? If this was 10,000 years in the past or 10,000 years in the future, I'd be more open to things being really different

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But this is 70 years before the Phantom Menace

shadow siren
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Timelines have always been weird lmao

bronze tinsel
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I guess what I'm trying to say is that we know the Jedi of the Clone Wars and the Galactic Civil war were good people, and that's how the order was portrayed too.

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This is too close to that

warm torrent
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I think they could easily recontextualize how the actions that we thought were good weren't that good.

bronze tinsel
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But that's what bothers me

warm torrent
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Cause like individually most Jedi we meet are good people.

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But as a unit, they did lead an army to conquer the galaxy and put down an uprising which lead to the Empire.

bronze tinsel
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If the Jedi can be evil, and the Sith can be good, then what's really the point of anything in the OT?

shadow siren
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Like if I apply logic to some of the timeline shenanigans, how did the reality of the Jedi Order become a myth in just 50 years? Even with the Empire working to destroy all evidence of them, the New Republic under Leia and Luke must have made the Jedi known again, right? Like for context, imagine if we had started thinking of the Black Panthers as a myth. They were most active around the same time ago, but we know they were real. There are people still alive today that remember them ffs.

warm torrent
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Like I'll be honest, the Sith to me have always been stupid.

bronze tinsel
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how did the reality of the Jedi Order become a myth in just 50 years

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Because Lucas kept things too close for some reason

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I never understood that either

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He weird with that

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I think in the OT the idea of Vader and Palpatine is just that they're bad people and I was fine with that. And then made them like part of this strange evil cult and I think that just destroyed any chance for real nuance.

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I think to tell a story about the faults of the Jedi it'd be stronger to just not mention the Sith at all.

bronze tinsel
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cursive glacier
bronze tinsel
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Idk how that’s related but sure Shrug0

bronze tinsel
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Anyway, I've been dealing with a headache all day.. I shouldn't be spending so much time looking at a screen

shadow siren
bronze tinsel
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I know some people are gonna be furious about this episode

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I'm whatever about it, in the end

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I wish we had 6 tighter episodes rather than 4 and 6 feeling kinda streched

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But that's a different topic

cursive glacier
bronze tinsel
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The older I get the harder I find to "hate" stuff

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Too much of a hastle fhaeShrug

bronze tinsel
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It wasn't until much later that we learn like a billilion Jedi actually survived in hiding

shadow siren
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To me the biggest fault I have is how Qimir keeps like painting the Jedi as bad for reasons that aren't painting them bad. Saying they don't attack people unarmed, saying they don't use excessive force, saying that they are careful about their emotions, those are all good things despite the way the show is presenting people hearing him say this and pausing like he has a point. The only point he's brought up in this episode that highlights a Jedi lie that might be harmful is them saying that your connection to the Force dulls if you don't follow the ways of the Jedi. That feels manipulative and dangerous, but it's hard to really feel like an emotional weight to that when we don't see that come into play at any point after this.

shadow siren
bronze tinsel
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Like... the Generals died, the Jedi in the Temple mostly all died, but other than that, any Jedi out in the wild would have been fine

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@warm torrent You're articulating all that my headache brain can't right now

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Next episode Sol will go psychotic and we learn he was the true sith master all along HG_PalpSmile

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And he is actually... wait for it

shadow siren
bronze tinsel
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fhaeChaos P L A G U E I S fhaeChaos

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That's the cool thing about Qui-Gon or Ahsoka

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shadow siren
bronze tinsel
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They let the Force guide them, not just use it

warm torrent
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Qui-Gon sucks but that's a different conversation

bronze tinsel
bronze tinsel
warm torrent
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Boring ahh character

bronze tinsel
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In Phantom, kinda

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Comics tho fhaeW

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cursive glacier
bronze tinsel
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My circuits are fried

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Have a good night all

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Don't take discourse too seriously, enjoy what you enjoy Love

shadow siren
# warm torrent What don't you agree with about the Jedi though?

The big thing is their attempt at a religious monopoly. Their justification for going after the Witches was "you're teaching children to follow your ways" but... that's literally what the Jedi do?? Like Qimir, while he's an evil dink, does have a point - the Jedi's ways are the only ways they'll accept, and anyone following other ways is unacceptable. They put on the visage of honorable, noble peacekeepers, but they want you to follow them and not anyone else.

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Yeah but the witches were apparently trapping these kids in a cult that doesn't allow them to leave, you're allowed to leave the Jedi

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Like clearly they tolerate existing outside the order, they just don't like it when you use the Force in violent ways. We still don't know if there's something explicitly bad about creating life with the Force, but hell man idk maybe that is really dangerous. They haven't given enough context for me to think that it's good or bad to do that, all I know is every time someone doesn't get trained by the Jedi right they turn out not so good.

shadow siren
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The Jedi take children from their homes, but the twins were born into the Coven. The morality issue is still there (like I said, I don't fully agree with the Witches either) but the Jedi pretending like they have a right to tell other orders how to handle their kids reeks of hubris and self-righteousness. Not to mention the audacity, when again, they take kids into their order themselves.

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Don't get me wrong, I think that that's an angle that should be explored. But all the show's been doing is proving that Mae's life turned out worse because she wasn't a Jedi.

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And showing that Osha's life would've been better if Mae had let her leave.

shadow siren
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I mean Mae was ready to kill Osha at the drop of a dime, I really don't think she'd be better in that environment

shadow siren
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OHKAY SHE STRAIGHT UP SAYS IT LMAO

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Yeah HG_YodaLaugh

shadow siren
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Deffo forgot

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But okay so

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She burns the book, BUT the camera still cuts away when the thing breaks and the fire starts

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Like don't get me wrong I think the Jedi probably killed the witches

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And when the show confirms that I will put that solidly in the "the Jedi were wrong here" category

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I will be frustrated if we find out it was like a thing where they both confronted each other and both sides started attacking each other and the Jedi won but never told anyone, because I think making it muddy really defeats the purpose.

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To me the best way this show can showcase how the Jedi were wrong is if we find out the four of them were sent there with explicit orders to kill all the witches and when Sol found the children he convinced the other three to let them be tested to spare them.

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And maybe that's what happened, but it still doesn't make sense to me to write Mae as being a weird violent murderous child, unless we literally get an episode that shows that that's not what happened and that Osha is remembering things wrong.

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Which hey maybe we will, but either way I think they dug a hole for themselves that they have to put a lot of effort into getting out of for no real reason other than to drag out a mystery that I'm not personally that compelled by.

shadow siren
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I read Mae not as "weird, violent and murderous", but instead as "desperate to keep her sister in her life while adhering to the order she loves so much", and that's something I can relate to. I've gotten to that point before, when I'm about to lose someone I love to something else I also love. And since Mae was a kid, no shit she couldn't cope with that beyond the extreme measures her underdeveloped brain came up with.

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Yeah but there was also the scene of her torturing a creature with the Force for no reason well before the Jedi showed up

shadow siren
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That's just precedent for how she arrived at murder as a reasonable course of action

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She's a kid, she's dumb

warm torrent
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Yeah but Osha knew that was wrong

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Hell I didn't do that shit

shadow siren
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I knew kids that did.

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I think kids can be stupid but I don't know why the show goes out of its way to make Mae look naturally evil if the intent is that she'd be fine without the Jedi interfering

cursive glacier
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I’m sure a child doing animal abuse at an early age is totally not a sign of a person growing to be a psychopath kazo

shadow siren
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I guess I see the show as running more on emotion than logic.

warm torrent
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I'd be fine if she was just dedicated to making her mom happy and following the order and was frustrated when Osha was making it hard for her to do that by running off and ignoring their duties. I think that if we're told by Osha that she remembers Mae being evil and later we're shown in a flashback that that wasn't the case, she was just strict and scared of being a disappointment, that would've been a solid way to show how our memories distort things and how sometimes it's natural to be frustrated and you shouldn't write someone off for that as being beyond saving.

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It's why I don't really get why the flashback episode was so early, like it only really reiterated things we already knew from the dialogue. And I don't think it really benefitted the mystery since pretty much everyone I know that watches this show agrees the Jedi probably killed the witches, so why show part of what happened and leave it more obvious that we don't have the full story?

rose schooner
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Wait, 70 years? I thought this was 100 years before TPM?

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Anyway when watching the show I sometimes feel like events are just happening and I don’t really see them being as deep as other people perceive them, though I do sometimes see attempts at being deep, but not doing so in a coherent way

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So I guess it’s the most Lucas Star Wars show 🤷🏻

trim path
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Also this episode was weird as shit

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Whole long scene where Osha stares at Qimir’s penis

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Osha being seduced by Qimir’s bare cock the dark side

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Did Troy Denning write this episode

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rose schooner
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Bit weird that Osha didn’t try killing the guy who killed people

radiant meteor
near pulsar
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Why would you be worried. That would have instantly made the episode a 70/10

craggy hawk
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I wanted to see bare Sith ass tbh

peak kayak
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It’s hidden in the archives, along with “fuck the empire”

peak kayak
zinc geode
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And she just got back up again afterwards

peak kayak
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I lived, bitch

bronze tinsel
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Somehow Jecki Returned

clever hinge
bronze tinsel
peak kayak
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Somehow…

weary schooner
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I liked Qimir philosophising about the force but I wonder how much of it is genuine. I'd honestly love it if it wasn't him manipulating Osha and it's revealed this is how he genuinely thinks. I'd a character that is actually looking for "freedom" and interpret the darkside differently even if he fails. Tho I question the logic of the method if it involves killing jedi in droves. In all likelihood they are just going to reveal he's looking for an apprentice to face his master.
Small thing but Sol leaving and the Jedi ship arriving immediately after was just so fucking silly. You couldn't give it a little more time just to give the galaxy a sense of scale? Really? It was an ugly ass ship too. So far the hero ships aren't that iconic imo, bar the sith one, but you get barely any shots of it.
I'm also still not sold on the lightwip thing. It's a conceptually silly concept if it's not something like a physical string you can then activate for damage, even then it's just a messy weapon and the full lightsaber light just makes it look stupid to me.
Sol's disposition is also having a complete 180º and I'm not sure how to feel about that yet.
The cortosis line was nice though. Glad they put it in just so people get it's not a common thing.
That's about it. I don't think I have much more to comment on this episode. Maybe that the time Osha spends fiddling around seems like it should take longer, and that Bazil seems to be running too aimlessly for a ship that doesn't seem that big.

peak kayak
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I think he’s genuine in his philosophy. The Sith culture is get angry to do what you want. It feels invigorating at first. Euphoric. You feel free to express your deep emotions, until your deep emotions start taking the wheel. When you’re too deep in one end, the other feels like an awakening to a new life

dim hill
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So all the good acolyte episodes are at the end of the season

peak kayak
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The latter half, yeah

dim hill
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Also, isn’t the next episode the finale?

peak kayak
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You mean yesterday? No we have two more

dim hill
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No I mean next I’m stupid

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I thought there were only 7

weary schooner
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8 I think

rose schooner
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Seven? What is this, some kind of Book of Boba Fett?

weary schooner
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They said they wanted to give this season finality and there's no way the next episode is going to do that

rose schooner
peak kayak
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Was it bobf where there was rumors of a super secret 8th episode?

dim hill
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Though I feel like they should’ve tried to go for 12, I know im being kind of greedy but they could’ve fleshed out stuff further rather than it being like “oh no someone is killing Jedi” and then it’s over after the first two episodes until the big fight

weary schooner
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You're not being greedy. The normal was 12 ep seasons of full 45 minute episodes. greedy would be like 1h 16 eps or something. you just want old standard

dim hill
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Yeah

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I’m glad Andor didn’t do this with like season 1 the heist and then season 2 the prison

sturdy acorn
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thank u for reminding me of a much better show

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(i say remind like i havent been rewatching it)

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i keep going to watch the last few acolyte episodes and then im like. but i could rewatch andor

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which in most cases id say hey go for what you havent seen, but this show hasnt given me a lot of faith or interest yet

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goddamn witch episode killed the tiny spark of interest i had 😭

pale jewel
dim hill
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royal lake
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And not stupid in a good way (like riding on the ISD, that was good).

rose schooner
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Btw if y’all want good TV watch Star Trek Prodigy season 2

sturdy acorn
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tros deserves shit for its dialogue but ppl focus on the wrong ones

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“im gonna find you and im gonna turn you to the dark side” gets me every time

rose schooner
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“Hey HEY!” is another one

pale jewel
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And writing

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It’s a bad movie but I feel people misplace their hate on the wrong ones

sturdy acorn
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i like the directing tbh

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jj abrams just needs to be kept away from stories

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especially closure

clever hinge
sturdy acorn
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thats more so the editing but it is goofy

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i just like how active the camera is

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and he’s clearly very good w actors

royal lake
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Too active, it's the same problem Michael Bay has that he forgets that if everything is fast and spectacular in a movie then nothing is.

rose schooner
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Just reminded me of when I saw someone defending Michael Bay, his argument being that if how he films was easy to do, everyone would be doing it.

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Just because something is unique or tough to do doesn’t mean one has to like it

dreamy stone
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There's like 2 episodes left before the show is done and I still have no idea what any of the character's motivations are 💀

sturdy acorn
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i cant rewatch his first star trek movie its borderline nauseating at times lmao

rose schooner
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I like JJ’s first Star Trek but I’m glad he’s not involved with Star Trek: Prodigy

royal lake
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i cant get over how this show keeps cutting away every time something is actually gonna happen 😭

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the editing is driving me insane

rose schooner
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The Acolshite

craggy hawk
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Anymore zingers for the crowd?

rose schooner
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The Acol-Aight

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Which is how I actually feel about the show

radiant meteor
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Do you think all the characters will die in the season/series finale?

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Imagine if The Acolyte ends up becoming an anthology show like True Detective or Fargo.

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Each season can focus on a different group of characters and storylines that are set within the same era/setting S1 is.

rose schooner
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Man I wish this were on the level of Fargo season 1

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It feels like they either want Osha to be the acolyte or like they want us to think that. And I just don’t buy her turning unless we’re just supposed to look at these as characters who just go through the motions

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I was talking to someone who explained maybe the twins are this yin and Yang thing where one is light but has a bit of dark, and one is dark but has a bit of light, and symbolism is fine and all, but I want characters to feel like real people, not just be symbols

craggy hawk
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And Mae has a physical representation of good in the evil with the symbol on her forehead

rose schooner
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I think Sol will die for sure

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Imagine the finale ends with a monologue from Ki-Adi Mundi saying “Well, no idea what happened with them. But at least based on what I know the Sith are extinct. Now to freeze myself in carbonite for a while so I won’t be as old in a century.”

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Bazil will have witnessed everything but nobody will understand him

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Osha and Mae will travel together far away from the Jedi and the Sith

craggy hawk
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Also wasn't Bazil a kid/Padawan or not

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I might be misremembering

rose schooner
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Idk I thought Bazil was just funny animal guy

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I think they killed off the only character who said he learned his language?

craggy hawk
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I think it was Yord who learned it completely

rose schooner
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Also find it kinda weird people sympathize with Qimir even though he killed a child

craggy hawk
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"BUT HE'S SEXY" HE KILLED 7 JEDI!!!!

rose schooner
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Insert Donald Glover in Community saying “This man killed someone! Y’all are weird”

craggy hawk
peak kayak
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Your honor, he was simply trolling

rose schooner
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“Objection, conjecture! Objecture!”

pale jewel
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Except there it’s probably worse cuz he’s a corpse in a Bunny Suit and not this dude with long black hair and abs

cursive glacier
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William Afton is like one of my least favorite gaming antagonists I swear.

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No motivation for murders, not a single coherent detail, keeps returning, overused, etc.

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Went from just a murderer of like some children to the main overarching villain of the franchise.

pale jewel
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IIRC his motivation for murdering was that he wanted to Achieve Immortality

cursive glacier
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When was that mentioned? joobimad

pale jewel
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Just generally theorized from his actions

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People think that basically after his son died and possessed a robot he could replicate that and achieve immortality and that path led to him murdering kids to experiment with it

peak kayak
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The purbleman

rose schooner
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I just read that Jecki is 18 during The Acolyte. So I guess that’s how they got away with killing off someone young on a Disney+ show.

peak kayak
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Huh, I would’ve guessed like 15

zinc geode
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Rumor on the street is that this next episode is another flashback episode

rose schooner
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Streets ahead

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Aren’t all episodes of Star Wars flashback episodes since they’re all a long time ago? 🤔

zinc geode
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Given “A long time ago, in a galaxy far far far away”

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Deep

dim hill
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Isn’t that just what he said?

zinc geode
rose schooner
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Well ackshooally

pale jewel
rose schooner
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Just a few more hours until peak

rose schooner
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Aw shit here we go

zinc geode
rose schooner
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Flashback let’s fuckin goooo

zinc geode
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💀

rose schooner
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This’ll be the best episode because it’ll explain everything

craggy hawk
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If it doesn't it's a instant zero

rose schooner
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Ironically Star Trek: Prodigy has a character called Zero and yet the show is a 10/10

craggy hawk
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Nightsister mention!

rose schooner
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M-Count hell yeah

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“I was going to let Osha go” god this is frustrating

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Episodes 3 and 7 have the same symbionts. They’re exactly the same or something

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This song is better than the entire episode

craggy hawk
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Sol was low-key boutta say shit when Kelnacca pulled up

peak kayak
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Wookiees are cool

rose schooner
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So how we feeling? Could the finale become our personal lord and savior or nah?

peak kayak
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I’ve been more on board since episode 5

dim hill
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That was definitely a better flashback episode

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New credits music?

rose schooner
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First time we’ve had a vocal song in Star Wars end credits maybe?

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Unless Yub Nub or something has been used

peak kayak
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It was better than the chant at least

dim hill
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This answered a lot of questions, but also has me left with a few more. Mainly, Kelnacca. Why Exhile himself?

peak kayak
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Probably shamed his mind was that easily taken over

rose schooner
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He saw himself as dangerous and took the Barash Vow I think

dim hill
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I was gonna also ask about Torbin, but I figure with him he feels guilty about starting the whole thing

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I do wish next week wasn’t the finale, as I feel like there’s a lot that will need to happen there and it will feel rushed

rose schooner
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Honestly at this point I just want the finale to rush to the end. It’s too far gone to improve substantially

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This episode I feel happened pretty much as expected for the most part

peak kayak
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You think torbin shaved his head or he just went bald from stress?

dim hill
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Both. He started balding but it looked like shit so he shaved it

rose schooner
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Nah I think he went bald due to an event involving Apocalypse. Just like Professor X, who’s not allowed to just go bald or shave his head like a normal person

dim hill
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Clearly someone used a force push on him and it caused his hair to fly right off

craggy hawk
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They should've just combined the flashback episodes tbh

bronze tinsel
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I finally figured out Osha's motivations, and I think they're quite admirable

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She simply wants to enforce safety regulations in the workplace

pale jewel
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Starting the New Episode

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Next week is the series/season finale right?

peak kayak
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Can a Jedi use the force to shave?? 3HC_think

pale jewel
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Theoretically

peak kayak
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That sounds more like a torture technique

shadow siren
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Alright so this is where even I have to admit, there was a major flaw here.

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Torbin's motivation makes NO fucking sense.

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Like okay, I could buy that he wants to get off Brendok because the evil nature of the place is disturbing him, or there's something important on Coruscant he doesn't want to miss, but the fact that he's just really bored doesn't match with him disobeying direct orders and speeding off to maybe start a war

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That and the Kelnacca fight was clearly shoehorned in to pad out time, though in defense of that it's cool to see Joonas fight with a lightsaber (I don't much care for that stuff usually)

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But overall I haven't lost my love for the series as a whole. It's a very emotion-driven show, and every other character makes perfect sense to me.

rose schooner
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This’ll probably end up being my least favorite SW D+ show

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I feel like there’s really not much emotion conveyed, and sometimes when it is conveyed it feels contrived

shadow siren
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I'm sure you know by now, but I definitely disagree with that assessment. I found lots of great emotion in this show, and I think it's my favorite D+ Star Wars series.

rose schooner
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I’m from the dark alternate universe, so that tracks

radiant meteor
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How did you all feel about the song played during the credits?

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There’s definitely gonna be an uproar of people hating it.

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The song’s not bad to say the least, but it feels out of place.

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Like, if it was just a typical song I heard on Pop/Top 40 radio, it’d be fine.

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It’s gonna be divided based on who’s a fan of the artist, that being Victoria Monét, and general music listeners who enjoy Top 40/Pop music and Star Wars fans who will get upset over mainstream music being featured in the franchise.

rose schooner
rose schooner
radiant meteor
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I didnt mind the chant

radiant meteor
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I found it to be cringe.

rose schooner
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They should’ve also included “I Need a Hero” and “Take on Me”

radiant meteor
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Or All Star by Smash Mouth

rose schooner
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One of the characters should’ve had a mixtape of Gen X fav songs

bronze tinsel
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Well, that was mega crap monkaPopcornSHAKE

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That's really all I have this week.

rose schooner
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It’s actually spelled Megacorp and it’s in the video game Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando, as well as some other film or tv show I forgot

zinc geode
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I actually died laughing when the credits came on

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Felt like I was watching a parody or some shit

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Literally just this

dim hill
# radiant meteor How did you all feel about the song played during the credits?

I don’t hate the song, it was actually pretty fire and had me sit through the credits to listen to. But it feels very out of place for a lot of ways. 1, Star Wars credits aren’t normally like that to begin with so it caught me off guard and felt odd. 2, it’s the 7th episode of the season where that has never happened until now which is odd, 3, I don’t really understand why this episode to begin with either

radiant meteor
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Hearing the song during the end credits kinda was like when the second Hobbit had Ed Sheeran play during the credits.

rose schooner
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They should’ve played this song in the middle of the episode

royal lake
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Like... I dunno, it's just common storytelling trappings. The first flashback tells us both what Osha knows and the "official" version to underline Osha's actions while now we get the story from the other PoV, putting them together like someone suggested just would not work.

dim hill
royal lake
dim hill
rose schooner
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I don’t have problems with these songs. Star Wars is at its best when it’s not trying to feel like Star Wars.

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Visions ftw

zinc geode
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Sometimes yes

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Other times no

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In this instance it didn’t really fit

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Or match the tone of what was happening

dim hill
pale jewel
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I’ve had it downloaded on I Tunes since the movie came out

rose schooner
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The song doesn’t need a reason to be in the credits. It’s just a banger that’s there

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Like the song that’s at the end of the Hannibal series finale

sly jackal
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Ed Sheeran writing the most banger song for no reason on a middle earth movie

warm torrent
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Haven't finished the episode but I love that bro was eating chicken with a spoon

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If this episode just shows us the Jedi being reasonably sus because the witches are just acting unnecessarily evil I stg

bronze tinsel
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Indara is reasonable, everyone else is clinically insane

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The Padawan I get, but the Wookie and Sol need chill pills monkaPopcornSHAKE

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And so do the witches

warm torrent
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I'm right at the test part so far

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Fucking dammit of course the council said "leave them alone"

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Torbin sounds like a nutjob

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I don't know how much the witches fucking with his contributed to that

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But they gave him the most unnatural motivation in existence

bronze tinsel
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"Wanna go home? Just become evil hehheheehehe"

warm torrent
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This is such a comedy of errors

royal lake
bronze tinsel
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but then the witches possessed him

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Isn't he a fully trained Knight?

royal lake
bronze tinsel
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Hmm, fair fair

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I have no idea why Sol didn't go for any disarming techniques and went straight for a kill

royal lake
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And then the entire congregation died when Indara force-disconnected them (pun not intended).

bronze tinsel
royal lake
bronze tinsel
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It was also kinda funny that THEY ALL DIED to that

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Yeah yeah, but ALL of them? xD

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Like.. I get the logistics, but.. what? xD

royal lake
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At the very least they got turned into vegetables.

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Which with everything around them on fire is more or less the same.

royal lake
warm torrent
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oh my god that "noble intentions" line makes me wanna die

bronze tinsel
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Oh, also... "I'll die before I let the Jedi take my children!!... actually just gonna fade away, byeeeeeee"

royal lake
bronze tinsel
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No, not her

warm torrent
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This is the dumbest shit

bronze tinsel
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Uh..

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Lady that died was trying to fade May away

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But other mom was like "I'll die"

warm torrent
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YOU STUPID BASTARD WHY DO EVIL MAGIC

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WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU

bronze tinsel
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And after she lost her weapon she just peaced out

warm torrent
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MAE SAYS "HELP ME" AND THEN YOU TURN INTO A SMOKE MONSTER

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I'm sorry I'm on the Jedi's side

bronze tinsel
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Don't get me wrong, Sol is kinda unhinged, but he's not wrong about the witches either.

warm torrent
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These witches are stupid, aggressive, and manipulative, and the Jedi were given no reason to assume they were being peaceful

royal lake
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Eh, I'm not. The guys just assumed "weird shit I don't know about equals dark side" and the witches had reasons to be paranoid about the Jedi.

bronze tinsel
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They're the ones that possessed their friend to murder them

warm torrent
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No cause one of the Jedi was like "eh idk they could just being their thing" and when they went to check Sol found Mae acting like a psycho at the encouragement of her evil acting mom

bronze tinsel
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They're the ones that were gonna leave Osha to burn and die

warm torrent
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I will say clearly the fire was an accident

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I'm sure if they all talked it out then they would've put out the fire together and saved Osha