#Marvel What If...? Season 2
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I hope What If goes on long enough that they can play around with other stuff like the FoX-Men
You know never in my life did I think we'd get 3 deadpool movies. With the 3rd one being in the mcu, while also loosely adapting deadpool kills the marvel universe, and featuring a yellow costume Wolverine
It's amazing
Not only that, but an R rated film under a Disney controlled Marvel is not only the only MCU movie in 2024, but is one of the most important in all of the multiverse saga
And it's all happening because deadpool 2 ended with a joke about killing baby hitler 
$10 on them in December releasing "Twice Upon a Deadpool"
It's actually funny that dp2 ended with him getting a time machine, which is undoubtedly gonna be why 3 is happening like it is now
The TVA gets pissed off at him for using it lmao
He was doing gods work with it
Preventing both green lantern and x men origins
Also, a dc movie is about to be canon to the mcu 
Unfortunately, 10 year old me watching Green Lantern is a canon event
Aside from superman getting referenced in eternals
And Spider-Man
Tru
It's funny that Tobey wouldn't know who the Avengers are but both Tobey and Tom know who Superman and Doctor Strange is
Missed opportunity to not have them interact more
Also is cable not in deadpool 3? I can't find josh brolin listed anywhere
No idea
Was it the one where she says we don't need both Kahhori and Echo?
Yeah I got brain damage from that one a few days ago
Also like, isn't there a whole thing with kahhori and echo maybe being related. Like obviously a different universe. But same tribe in both
Regardless, Grace is a dumbass 
I'm certain her losing the ability to speak would instantly cause world peace
Nah Star Wars Theory is still out there
Nah he's getting toasted this week
That shit was hilarious lmao
He was also like, extremely sexist in his response video and is getting cooked for it
Oh I didn't watch that. What did he even say?
That all female fans are just egirls who don't care about the franchise, all came in with Disney and aren't real fans like him
Don't think it was necessarily the same
Plus falcon met old red hulk in the future
Yeah, he was in the once and future kang
Where he's fighting Kang and Redesigned Falcon
I remember
Those were cool episodes, I enjoyed the Steve and Natasha and Clint Noir episode
The Thunderbolts arc was fun
Actually no, he called female fans "opportunists" who fake being nerds. And attributes being a real "nerd" to being bullied in highschool for liking star wars 
Then he just goes on to "blah blah Disney made star wars political. Its impossible to talk about it like we used to"
Because truly SWT was the harbinger of deep star wars discussions. Such as did vader still have his cock and balls
YO I got a video that describes him https://youtu.be/XOuQlGm-ZNY
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I really should watch gumball at some point 
It's so good lmao
There was one episode where the town turned into an apocalyptic wasteland because of pizza
My only exposure to gumball is one episode I watched as a kid, the fucking minecraft smp and the actor doing a funny on dream 
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I wish discord want stupid. I really wanna post gumball saying slurs
All the Elmore teachers turning into a gang of cannibals
Oh god the time đź’€
I need to stop getting into these discussions so late
Especially when I want to fix my sleep schedule before winter break over
I have to be at work at 7, but here I am watching Deadpool so um yeah lol
Its almost 5am. I have nothing too do. I just want to make sure I can wake up early when nobody in the house again after next week 
I love how the chats over 1000 messages and at least half of it is probably from the last 3 hours of non what if discussions 
Rewatching the avengers assemble episode with red hulk, and he's legit headed to vista verde where agents of smash takes place
I want an MCU movie to have a scene where in the background ou can see The Watcher watching the landscape, and then he’s never mentioned in the film again
Wasn't expecting to see the Freak again
Should have realised the queen would have been hela
But yeah, another peak episode
I find myself liking peggy the more episodes she's in
I’m surprised Wanda wasn’t as powerful here
Well, she's not a nexus being like prime wanda. So she's weaker overall
I like the detail of her headpiece being gray instead of red, she's not the scarlet witch. So she doesn't get the red
The one shot in the corridor was fucking great
Also worth noting this was a Wanda pulled from before WandaVision since Steve hit the stone in 2018
So she wouldn't have fully realized her potential yet
This was also kinda clearly a mini incursion right?
Obviously not as bad as the one in MoM or what we're going to see soon.
But like, a baby one
At least this time they can't blame wanda or strange for almost destroying two universes
Yeah I think it was kind of an incursion
Which is why it can't be understated how powerful Wanda was still here, even if not as powerful as prime Wanda
She detected Steve's presence.
She portaled Carter from another universe.
She held off an incursion for minutes, while also holding off Thor at the same time
Was this the first time Loki and Wanda were on screen at the same time?
So Steve basically caused an Incursion? That's what I picked up
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I knew I saw red guardian in the intro
Of this season?
Yeah
This is for season 3
Good news about this is that it means season 3 might not take as long
Also
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Preview for tomorrow
Well guess I was wrong, we are getting zombies this season lmao
That would be wild when we're already getting 4 cartoons
Besides hit monkey
I do wonder if zombies is gonna tie into what If at all. Considering that universe zombie wanda got yeeted to a random planet
I think it would since the concept art shows zombie Cap cut in half
Don't know how Wanda ends up back in her universe though
Unless watcher and strange decided to put everything back, to avoid an incursion
Not that it would matter, since that universe was dead
I think
I need to rewatch the last episode
Yeah I think that universe was dead
The purpose was to hide from Ultron because he wouldn't look at a universe with no life
But I think Thor was a stupid head and accidentally alerted Ultron to where they were
If I remember correctly lol
I found this on my phone lmao.
When are we getting a MODOK what if?
Rest in peace King
Honestly, I want a iron man 3 what if
What if wenwu captured/attacked Tony stark or something
Or what if the mandarin wasn't a fake
Just you know, do the story we all wanted iron man 3 to be
That'd be cool
What If... Wenwu Attacked Tony Stark
You know, If we're getting season 3 so soon. I wonder if some of the leaked episodes were from that and not this
Like the wanda musical episode
S3 was officially announced in July of last year so we'll probably get it late next year
da what
There was a leak while ago of there being a episode where wanda grew up on musicals instead of sit coms
So wanda musical episode
WandaVision but musical would go hard asf tbh
I think there was another one with quicksilver surviving age of ultron
That should just be canon tbh
I would take either ATJ or Evan Peters at this point, I just want Quicksilver
It would be ashame not to have Tommy and evan Peters quicksilver actually interact
Sure, but Tommy interacting with his actual uncle would be dope too
I hope either Deadpool 3 or Agatha give us an answer on what's going on with Quicksilver
We did get the deleted scene from wandavision that confirms Evan was who Jimmy was looking for
But it still doesn't make sense that those documents specifically went untouched by the hex
Yeah, and considering he's supposed to be Agnes' husband
Surely he's gotta be in Agatha right?
I'd hope so. Kevin knows how pissed people are. He'd probably correct it right?
I have to believe that the plan is that it is actually Quicksilver, and the name Ralph Bohner was a fake name given to him because of the witness protection program thing
I don't know that there was even anything needed to be corrected, I think it was supposed to be Quicksilver but a lot got cut out at the end, like the one deleted scene we've seen
I feel like it was originally quicksilver, then got changed to Ralph during filming. Which it's why he's never explained and that scene got deleted
There was a sequence that apparently got deleted that involved Darcy(I think), Billy, Tommy, and Evan, and maybe Monica
We've never seen it, I just remember that being a thing going around a couple of years ago
It really does seem like they 100% intended for Evan to return. But didn't know how the multiverse saga was going to play out. So changed it last second
Super easy fix though
We know for a fact marvel would have kept it today. With all the x men cameos
Like easier fix than the Mandarin
The hardest part is explaining how he jumped universes, but uh, just BS some explanation
lol
There's a million reasons he could've jumped universe
Simple solution
Tony snapped Thanos out of existance, or Bruce bringing everyone back used so much energy that it briefly tore a hole in the multiverse he fell through
That's kinda what everybody thought anyway 
I remember the prevailing theory was that Wanda wanted her brother so bad that chaos magic found a variant and grabbed him
Similar to what Wanda Merlin did to Captain Carter actually đź‘€
I do wonder I'd they'll do anything with him in deadpool 3. I wouldn't be surprised
Like I haven't seen anything saying Evan is in it
But like, If he was gonna be in anything before agatha. It would be that
Well considering the only other thing he could be in before Agatha is Echo
Yeah
lol
The saddest thing about Wanda and Pietro is there was never any reconciling with Tony
Pietro died
Wanda joined the Avengers and Tony took some time off, and then when he came back he locked her in the compound, they were on opposing sides of Civil War, then she was locked up, partly by his doing, and then she was on the run. Then Thanos came and she blipped, and then she came back and Tony died
Same with Bucky
Was looking away for a moment, thought Tony Stark was talking, and it was actually Stephen Strange
They should’ve just let Cumberbatch use his normal accent for Strange
“What? The guy with dark eye sockets and red eyes lied to me?” 🤔
Eh, would've preferred they had ditched overarching plot stuff and just stuck with one shots this time around
The finale just sorta felt tacked on to the end, and it's hard to feel any sense of loss or stakes with the prisoners since we've seen multiple different versions of themselves live and die throughout the show
They should've seeded in Strange stealing people from other universes in the episodes
Like, I dunno, in the background,, we see groot suddenly vanish in the Nebula episode or something
A lot of it just ended up feeling like a bad fan fic
Bruh the staff 100% watched jjk, they jumped his ass
Tbh I like it, peggy and kahhori getting all the weapons was fanficy as fuck. But it doesn't really take away from anything
Weaker than season one last episode
But still good
A shame to lose supreme, he was really good. But oh well
I just can't get other the jumping
Also the marvel intro with what if scenes was great
I do like that supreme couldn't move on from his guilt. Kinda makes him similar to wanda in a sense. Aside from the fact wanda grief didn't become a separate entity
It was a good finale
It was basically just a follow up to Strange's episode last season
Rather than an overarching story arc
I need more Kahhori
Give her, her own cartoon, or bring her into live action or something
I've seen people say that they regressed supreme act. But I kinda don't get that?
Yeah, nah lol
I guess its a similar argument people had for wanda in MoM. Which is another similarity the two have 
Yeah and I disagreed there too lmao
I do legitimately believe though that supreme started off with good intentions. Legitimately trying to prevent more universes from dying. But like wanda got corrupted by isolation and the grief inside them
The grief for wanda manifesting through the dark hold. And for strange his demon shadow
Strange started out with good intentions of preventing Christine from dying
Good intentions can often go sideways
Its kinda a running theme that strange and Christine are fundamentally unable to get closure
Aside from prime strange
Who got closure through a alternate universe Christine
It's a canon event
I do wonder if supreme was killed off so they didn't have to worry about him in secret wars though 
When the dude can just eat Kang....yeah lmao
Not even supreme could stop the all destroying power of a jumping though
Dude destroyed mystical artifacts, but couldn't handle a jumping
It's a sacred art
Did you see wild west Loki?
Wild West Avengers season 3?
Imagine being Killmonger, you got the infinity stones, ready to throw some hands finally after two years of being trapped.
Then this OC literally teleports you out of your armor lmao
I saw that they took inspiration from yuji and nanami vs mahito for the Strange fight from jjk though.
I'm surprised they didn't take from the hanami fight. Would have been cool to see Carter and kahhori teleporting back and forth, just absolutely beating the shit out of strange
Just imagine
Would've been cool
I need more Kahhori
Oh I'm sure we'll see her more
She's 100% either coming to 616 in the comics or the new ultimate universe
Ultimate might make more sense
Plus would let her interact with a Spider-Man that isn't about to kill Paul at the drop of a hat(Not that I would stop him)
And I'm sure she'll be in live action soon as well.(the character was modelled after the voice actor. So she can play her)
Please god, have her be in strange 3
Also, thank fucking hell kahhori took on zombie wanda instead of carter 
After Secret Wars they might be able to merge her into the main MCU akin to what happened with Miles in the comics
Also, really cannot understate kahhori taking on wanda. Like yeah she's a zombie. But this is still " will destory the mind stone within the next few hours" wanda
I think if they wanna do a live action Kahhori before Secret Wars they should do a cameo of her like Captain Carter's cameo in Multiverse of Madness
But without her getting killed right away
Tbf short of the literal multiversal gods. I don't think there's much that could actively kill her 
I love overpowered characters not named Gi'ah
Kahhori has her own power set unlike G'iah
Exactly
Plus it's not lore/universe breaking
Is the apostrophe after the G or the I in her name?
Lemme look it up rq
Flirting vs harassment
Yeah it's G'iah
Also my Disney Movie Club order is going to be here today 
I wonder If they'll go a hot toys kahhori. They did carter, so I don't see why not
And they revealed Iron Man from this season
Seeing Red Guardian in the Marvel Studios intro is getting me hyped for season 3
Kinda wish kahhori picked up mjolnir instead of using her powers. She'd 100% be worthy
(Also let her keep the ten rings)
Okay, but they're cool
Go watch Shang-Chi again
I thought Carter was gonna pick up the hammer tbh
Both of them would've been worthy
Yeaa
My boy Loki is chilling
WAIT. I forgot, ultron literally blew up the planet zombie wanda was on
Girl tanked that shit
At least we know how she's in Marvel Zombies now lmao
That whole zombie thing was weird, like Captain America, Hawkeye, Falcon, and Scarlet Witch were all there even though Cap and Falcon were already dead/dismembered
Like Cap and Falcon were split in half but they were all fine when fighting Infinity Ultron
I guess it could have been a different zombie universe. That or you know. They just had a limited amount of zombie models and threw them all in there
Fair
It doesn't matter
lol
r/MarvelStudios is in love with What If. r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers is being toxic as hell
Never thought I would see the day those two flipped
Fuck reddit 
Pluh
Better than Twitter
Who cares what either think
We got peak this week
And we get peak again in 2 weeks
Oh I don't really care, I just thought it was funny those two flipped
Usually MS is the toxic one lol
Tbh I'm really looking forward to echo
Me too
I mean, he can basically see. So he could read her sign language via Air and body movement
That's assuming he learned sign language
I mean, they can just say he knows it 
I would have so many question
Kingpin has to be their interpreter
Just chilling there with two people who want him dead talking for them lmao
Or just say echo can read lips
And that matt understands sign language, but can't use it
But even then. Matt a super ninja. If he can do everything he can, and not use/understand sign language. Then I'd be surprised
Especially since they're more than likely using his comic super hearing. Rather than what he had in the netflix show
Did Daredevil and Echo meet in the comics?
How did the comic have them interact?
She can talk regularly in the comics 
Did she just teach herself to talk? I know someone whose parents are deaf and they taught themselves how to talk
Probably something kingpin taught her
Ah wait, its apart of her abilities. Since she can read lips. She can mimic the way people talk
Ah fair enough
I hope they don't do that in her show though, I like sign language.
Also would be hard to do in live action for Alaqua
I hope I spelled her name right
nailed it
They probably won't. They're putting a lot of focus on making things easy for her
She'd still have to mimic the mouth movements with a dub. Which will still be difficult for her
yeah
So when are we getting Kahhori, Makkari, Speed, and Quicksilver on the screen at the same time?
I'll throw in Yo-Yo too
Wtf
Captain Carter>>>G'iah
Why is that a comparison?
Both got the powers of everyone in their finales
Women

I think she is actually supposed to be kahhori descendent. Just obviously not the one from what if
There's a reason why they modeled her after the voice actor
That'd be cool
So I guess she’ll be like an echo of her ancestor
Idk if this has been brought up, but has Sam Wilson shown up at all in this show?
He was a Zombie in S1
He was a zombie last season
I think he was mentioned in the Happy Hogan Saved Christmas episode
Ah ok. So it’s all good then.
But I think him being the new Captain America and not being seen in 3 years yet we've seen Captain Carter at least once in the past 3 years says a lot
Yeah claiming to be committed to Sam as Captain America feels very “hurry up and wait”
Like even if Mackie wasn’t available, couldn’t they hire another VA?
badum crash
I never want to see Korg again
He was fine in Ragnarok but lordie God has he overstayed the welcome
Gotta say the season is better than I thought it was going to be but the finale is probably one of my least favorite episodes
The season finales just feel very overblown
Didn’t need all that
Most of the episode though feel more fleshed out and less rushed like the last season
The Kahhori episode was surprisingly well executed and I liked that they did proper research
I understand this sentiment, at the same time though, we don't need anything
It was an okay finale
It just feels unneedlessly complex, the coolest part of the finales is seeing The Watcher interact with the world but I feel it’s just kinda too much
That's fine. To me it felt more like an ending conclusion to the Doctor Strange episode last season and less like a season finale
Sounds like from what I heard a season 3 is coming very soon though
Maybe next year?
But next year already has three cartoons under the Marvel Studios banner, and two under just "Marvel"
I was surprised that we already got a first look at the next season lol
Yeah, I guess they could do an advent thing again next Christmas
It would just be wild to get six Marvel cartoons
We're getting a bunch of shows this year
How? Isn’t Marvel dead? At least that’s what the headlines I’ve seen say 🤔
One live-action feature film from each this year. Although Sony is putting out three
I'll never stop thinking it's funny that Sony is putting out more comic book movies this year than Marvel and DC combined
This said I can almost guarantee Deadpool 3 and Joker 2 will be better than all of Sony's offering
Unless Venom 3 kicks butt
There’s no way Venom 3 will be good. I’d bet my pristine Crimson Chin action figure on it.
Idk it could be good, I enjoyed the first two
I guess you could say we are solar opposites then
Couldn’t understand a damn thing Venom was saying most of the time
Venom 3 will be peak cinema, just like the last 2, I think Venom will be a better trilogy then Guardians of the Galaxy
Better trilogy than that, and Spider-Verse and LOTR and the OT
It will be the best trilogy of all time
So with Netflix’s Daredevil being supposedly canon to the Sacred Timeline, are they gonna explain how different Vanessa looks? Or are they not going with the new actress given how they said they were restarting Daredevil Born Again from scratch recently?
Hm for some reason I remembered hearing the actresses had very different backgrounds, but at a glance they don’t look too different from each other
Could have posted this in the marvel chat 
But it's either just a recast they're not going to address or try and get the original actress back. Considering it was very clearly supposed be be a soft reboot and only loosely connected to the netflix shows
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Wow first episode of season 3 is actually really good
I liked the Avengers lineup
If I had a nickel for every time the earth exploded in a alt mcu timeline, with people having to survive on large floating chunks of the planet. I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot. But it's weird that it happened twice
Anyway this season fun when you don't have twitter bitching in your ear
Main problem (like the previous seasons) is that the episodes are too short
I find that most of this season is a good length. Aside from the first episode
I will not accept slander of the Howard darcy episode. If you hate that you hate fun and comics
Cowboy kate bishop is also now the reason I'm pan 
No I found that really fun but like dumb fun
They’re loving parents, gdi
Love how it connected every part of the marvel world from the cosmic stuff with Collector and the Ravagers, to Thanos and his army, to the magic stuff, to Gods, to Sakaar, to even the Dark Elves of all things
My one complaint would be fury acting very strange. Like I don’t mind him funny, but that was just weird
Eh, it's the party universe. Everybody acts funny
I’ve only seen the first episode and thought it was the right length
I think yesterday's episode should've been longer
Oh she returned to True Grit?
I was wondering for a second if anyone was actually watching this show given how freaking inactive it’s been during the first several episodes
I even had to start discussing by reviving this season 2 thread lol
I didn’t start watching until yesterday and I’m just one episode in
Idk if the holidays were really the best time to put out these episodes. I know they did it last year too but idk how well they did then
I was genuinely surprised how not many people were talking about it
Seemed like last year this thread was constantly active
What If didn’t even reach the top 10 on Disney+ when it released though 💀
Considering it’s the last season I’m not sure if they care all that much but still
Could have executed it maybe better
It’s actually criminal we’ve seen so little of Steinfeld’s Bishop considering how good she is in the role
With how long it takes for us to see certain characters again because of things having to be released between things, it’s like what we really need is a comic book release schedule where every series releases simultaneously 🤔
Which I realize the Arrowverse had previously done in live-action
See though I think if you are striving towards quality it needs to be spaced out
They’ve tried to do a lot at once before and it resulted in alot of six episode seasons and rushed storylines with unfinished effects and rough plot lines
The CW was able to run a lot at once but it cost them a lot in terms of overall quality and plus most of those shows were a lot more cheaply made
The nice part about shows like What If and one of the reasons I think they should have kept it around is it lets people see more of the characters from an ever expanding film and show universe without having to wait extended periods of time before their next appearance
It does feel weird they’re ending it with season 3. I do wonder if the viewership dipped and if they would’ve made it much more long lasting had the case been otherwise
Infinite ultron my beloved
He’s mine
Legit forgot Eternals existed until I watched the second episode
Made me realize that I legitimately don’t remember what even happened in that movie
They were talking about elements from Eternals and I was just lost by all of it
Shiternals
Isn’t Captain America: Brave New World supposed to finally address the giant hand?
I lowkey really hated the Agatha Eternals episode
Which is funny because I really liked the Mech episode
Kingo and Agatha is just such a random pairing that have absolutely zero on screen chemistry, Agatha doesn’t even feel like herself in the episode and the whole ending with her being talked down was very uncompelling and rather anticlimactic
Also why did they tie it back into film of all things đź’€
The Bollywood dance sequence was kind of neat
Those two, Bucky and Red Guardian, and I guess there’s a Darcy and Howard the Duck episode
Bucky and Red Guardian’s trip to Vegas is way better than the one in Venom 3
Yeah and they're gonna say some shit like it's now where Adamantium comes from
I'm not, I wouldn't mind if they retcon him to be involved in the Stark's assassination
Yep and Japan was the nation that found it (teasing Silver Samurai hopefully)
Why does Howard have this camera instead of a cell phone?
That’s the question on my mind, not how Howard and Darcy etc
Can The Watcher stop being a creeper? They close the door and turn of the lights and he’s behind the door? TF?
So do people hate the Howard and Darcy episode or was it just a couple comments I saw?
Divided 50/50 I'd say
That episode was fuckin’ amazing
Maybe even my favorite What If episode
Kinda sad they’re not OTP in the main universe
Bout time we get more Riri
I kinda wish we could’ve somehow gotten her Ironheart series prior to Wakanda Forever
Like the Ten Rings reference in the western episode
And an Iron Fist reference? Lmao
Holy shit the Watcher is in trouble with the other Watchers!
It’s Doctor Who: The War Games all over again
STORM?!
It’s funny how James Gunn randomly putting in a Howard the Duck cameo in GOTG somehow created a domino effect that lead to Darcy Lewis having his baby
Yeah
I really loved this season. But I guess lots of people are disappointed
Everyone should just be more like me
What if…they brought it back?
I’d watch
People bitch too much. People complaining about s3 are the same ones who never watched it in the first place or stopped after s1
Some said the character designs shown at the end are stories they wish they’d gotten instead, but I honestly wasn’t feeling that
I think in S1 there were a couple episodes that didn’t work for me, S2 I liked but don’t remember too well
I guess I came in with the feeling that Disney/Marvel were burying this show and was surprised how much I loved this season
A friend said he wished the show had been more integrated into the MCU, but like, I feel this is the furthest they should go, same actors playing the characters in different scenarios
I feel like people took the name "what if....?" To seriously and expected incredibly deep anthology stuff. When the series was always presented as one, something with a ongoing narrative. And two, just whatever the fuck.
Its the equivalent to the dc elseworld stories
Was it ever confirmed that the evil Dr Strange from Dr Strange in the MoM was the same one from What If?
They're different
That’s the one thing where I expected a connection, but in retrospect it doesn’t bother me that they’re different
We were robbed on Silver Surfer Jubilee though
Oh damn. You’re right. Fuck this show
Another case of irony next to endless Final Fantasies, and only three Neverending Stories
You wouldn’t pirate a car