#Doctor Who 60th Anniversary

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cyan blaze
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This is 10 but I’m sure there’s some logic behind it

steel monolith
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mind wipe or smth who knows

cyan blaze
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Doctor Who logic lol

steel monolith
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it'd have to be BEFORE the master comes back cause 10 dies at the end of that story

cyan blaze
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That being said I can’t complain about more Missy

steel monolith
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so mf saw the master die, hung out with missy and somehow forgot, then fought the master brought back to life lmaoo

cyan blaze
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Day in the life of the Doctor

steel monolith
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or maybe this was before the master came back and missy doesnt tell him who she is? 👀

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i mean 12 didnt remember the guy from Pompeii was the face he changed too, only that it was familiar

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so he could have just straight up forgotten by the time he met missy

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but missy ran into him AFTER 12 canonically so she knew not to say anything?

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now im just tin foil hatting

cyan blaze
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He also met Amy Pond in Pompeii HG_YodaLaugh

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Doesn’t count but I think it’s hilarious

steel monolith
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lmfaooo fr it is pretty funny

random aspen
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Okay, hear me out...

young birch
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Meep would beat the shit out of meep

vernal stag
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So this is Ten but also not. A particular incarnation of The Doctor keeps degenerating in this series, so he becomes past selves and future selves. I remember there’s memory loss shenanigans, which is par for the course for these types of crossovers. Which is why you can have the Eighth Doctor meet Derek Jacobi’s War Master and then have Ten be surprised he’s The Master, for example

vernal stag
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I’m watching the Tales of the TARDIS segments finally as something to watch midway between The Giggle and the Christmas special. These are so wholesome and well done, and really would fit with RTD’s Doctorverse idea

young birch
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What is it exactly? It looked like a interview series

vernal stag
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The actors are in character as the companions and Doctors they played and they basically reunite and reminisce. They wrap around certain serials on iplayer but I found the segments on their own on YouTube. Basically feels like closure and therapy, which fits well with the themes of The Giggle

cyan blaze
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It’s so funny to see Ncuti Gatwa in Barbie after seeing his Doctor

steel monolith
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just now finding out that river is in the 8th doctors audios? Man these audios must be wacky i gotta keep listening

vernal stag
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Just maybe not 13-15, Fugitive, or any other pre-Hartnell Doctors…yet

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She’s also met multiple Masters

steel monolith
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is it different for each one or is it one force that makes him forget them all

vernal stag
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Sometimes they lose their memory for different reasons

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Also sometimes River might get involved without them knowing it’s her

steel monolith
vernal stag
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I think that’ll forever be a noodle incident

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Or perhaps wishful thinking on River’s part

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Could be a reference to the minisode where she sees two Eleventh Doctors

steel monolith
cyan blaze
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That one is pretty tame

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There’s been worser examples lol

steel monolith
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oh 100%

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this was just the first one that really made me cringe on my most recent rewatch

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which im in the middle of rn

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(definantly a legal site)

cyan blaze
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The ones with River don’t bother me as much since it’s his technical wife, the ones that are annoying are more with Amy Pond or Clara Oswald

steel monolith
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yeah which is 90% of them

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at least it mostly stops with clara once 12 rolls around

cyan blaze
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It was very bad in season 7

steel monolith
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yuuuup

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also in asylum of the daleks the line from oswin "i was going through a phase" talking about her first girlfriend aged very poorly

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which is ironic considering the writer before moffat is a GAY MAN

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also season 6 has a gay couple in it who are unnamed, they literally call themselves the tall & skinny short & fat gay marines or whatever

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they joke about not having names

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its like

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bro comeon

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season 1 of this show in 2005 had an openly pansexual main character

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why are we going backwards

vernal stag
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Time travel that’s why

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Steven Moffat doing things out of order

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It’s pretty wild how all the discourse I heard in the mid-2010s was how sexist Steven Moffat’s DW run was, and then the last couple years I’ve seen a lot of Moffat defenders on the social media app which shall not be named since we banned it from this server for good reason

steel monolith
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i mean moffat sucked no doubt about it, but somehow chibnal is worse

vernal stag
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I think all the showrunners are the same amount of bad tbh

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Whenever I hear someone say “the man who ruined Doctor Who” I’m like, “There’s an awful lot of people that could be, goofball”

young birch
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Doctor who is ruined forever again, guys!! SCmicAAA

cyan blaze
lean cradle
# steel monolith i mean moffat sucked no doubt about it, but somehow chibnal is worse

Chibnall has a problem neither RTD nor Moffat had: he's dull.
I enjoyed the historicals of the first season but it's pretty clear the run could have been much better if he let Jodie be the Doctor instead of always having to react to things, it rarely does feel like she's in charge she even had to be saved by Jack Harkness from IIRC the same prison her wife used as a dormitory.

vernal stag
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Jodie felt like The Doctor to me, though I have no counter argument against the Jack thing

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Most of Chibnall’s era I didn’t find dull tbh. And I liked how grounded the companions felt.

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They weren’t the most important person ever or whatever, like Bad Wolf, Doctor Donna, The Girl Who Waited, The Impossible Girl, and so forth

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It was really only four episodes and then Flux that I wasn’t really into

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And this is not meant to say “this showrunner is better because X,” but I do find it fascinating that big things have leaked from these current specials, whereas I don’t recall anything leaking during the Chibby era other than Tennant’s return

cyan blaze
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It’s because not many people cared to even leak it

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💀

young birch
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The whole thing with her secret origin just felt like “but wait there’s more!” Not series ruining, just a comic book unnecessary retcon

vernal stag
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It’s not really a retcon tho

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It’s an unretcon

cyan blaze
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That being said Jodie’s first season is definitely the best

vernal stag
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The Brain of Morbius from Fourth Doctor era had teased pre-Hartnell Doctors

cyan blaze
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The second and third season she has really suffer from bad writing

vernal stag
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Then in Five’s era they retconned by saying it’s his fifth face

young birch
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Really. Interesting

vernal stag
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So the Timeless Child revelation was really bringing back something fun I speculated about when I went through the entire show starting from the beginning

young birch
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Well it was boringly executed superspideydab

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What’s his name was a pretty good Master though

vernal stag
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Sascha Dhawan (sp?)

cyan blaze
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Jodie’s first season had a couple really good episodes that few people will probably ever recognize because of how the shitty writing from other episodes deterred them away from her era

vernal stag
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I was onboard right from “Eat my salad, Halloween”

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I want Big Finish to finally reveal release dates for Call Me Master and The Fugitive Doctor Adventures already

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They’ve been sitting on those for a couple years now

cyan blaze
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I feel like alot of the Whittaker era can be described as good actors, wasted potential

vernal stag
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Sounds familiar. Where have I heard that before? 🤔

cyan blaze
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No idea

vernal stag
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Star Wars lol

cyan blaze
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The Fugitive Doctor and The Master were played exceptionally well

cyan blaze
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The Master’s story is so incoherent across the show lol

young birch
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Sounds pretty on brand

cyan blaze
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Everytime they show up you are like wait what and then it’s never explained

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Just that they are there

young birch
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If you ask him, he just flips you off and dances

cyan blaze
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That being said I wish Missy’s arc was used in some kind of unique way with Sascha’s Master

young birch
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They fuck and create paradox baby

vernal stag
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In the audio dramas there’s a partial incarnation post Missy called The Lumiat

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It’s like The Valeyard for The Doctor but not evil

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And while The Lumiat isn’t said explicitly to regenerate into the Spymaster, it would fit very well

cyan blaze
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Missy’s arc and progression felt the most natural

vernal stag
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It’s just said she’ll probably regenerate into a more evil incarnation

cyan blaze
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I am betting Russell with either try to come up with some wacky explanation to the Master timeline or just bring in some new dude and skip right passed it again lol

vernal stag
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I do appreciate he’s not wiping away what Chibnall brought to the table

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Mentioning the Flux and running with the Timeless Child backstory

cyan blaze
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It would be cool to see Sascha’s Master again but I highly doubt it’ll be the same dude

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Oh for sure it’ll be interesting to see how Ncuti’s series tackles those things

vernal stag
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While I do defend Chibnall on certain things, I’m still not sold on destroying Gallifrey again. It baffles me that none of these showrunners know how to tell stories of Gallifrey.

cyan blaze
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Destroy

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Bring back

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Destroy again

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Literally makes Day of the Doctor seem pointless

vernal stag
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I’d argue that Twelve not really revisiting Gallifrey much once he found it was the first thing that made it pointless

cyan blaze
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Hell Bent was so random

vernal stag
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Heaven Sent was amazing and then Hell Bent threw potential out the window 😭

cyan blaze
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There’s a lot of things that Russell has on his plate I imagine

vernal stag
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Christmas dinner probably

cyan blaze
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I don’t really like how Chibnall left a lot of these things up in the air for the next showrunner to solve

vernal stag
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I would’ve liked for him to have elaborated more on the consequences of the Flux sooner, but I do like it bleeding into the next era

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I don’t think it needs to be a completely clean slate once there’s a different showrunner

cyan blaze
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For the 65th anniversary the Four David Tennants plus Matt Smith will undo the events of Flux

vernal stag
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They’d just call it Give No Flux

cyan blaze
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Flux No More

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I don’t want to see David Tennant again for awhile but I hope Russell follows on the fan theory of him settling down to become the Curator

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It would make so much sense

vernal stag
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Yeah David should just stay out of the public eye indefinitely

young birch
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Like in general or for DW?

vernal stag
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In general. We’ve seen a lot of him lately. Best way to ensure we don’t see too much more is if he becomes recluse.

cyan blaze
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So true

young birch
stone crag
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"You morax, back into your tree now, please."

vernal stag
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Too lazy to copy so screenshots

random aspen
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I remember thinking that was going to be his outfit when I was a kid.

stone crag
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I'm glad it wasn't tbh

vernal stag
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I do prefer what they actually went with but I love the idea that this is what Matt Smith would’ve gone with had he gone on.

grave falcon
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I'm tempted to see if I can make this the icon for the chat. Would probably be funny and Its also like one of two posters for 15

young birch
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Someone put a weed in his hand

cyan blaze
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Tomorrow is the day

grave falcon
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Ah fuck it, I'll just see if masterbuilt was correct about how to change the icon

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Masterbuilt was wrong HG_CadBaneSoTrueBestie

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Guess I'll just make a new one when 15 series starts

steel monolith
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Petition to make a doctor who Chat fr

young birch
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Might as well

steel monolith
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type of shit i been on lately

cyan blaze
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Would it be wrong to say that this is my favorite ending to a Who Christmas Special

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While there are some notable flaws with the special the ending ties everything together so wonderfully and serves as a great ending for both Twelve and the First Doctor

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Also love how the Christmas Truce ties into Capaldi’s overall message of being kind

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It’s funny because Capaldi’s Doctor spends a lot of the time in his first season wondering if he really is a good man only to end his run as one of the series’s most modest and morally competent.

vernal stag
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This is the best Christmas special bar none

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I can’t not get teary eyed during the Christmas truce

stone crag
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And that was such a defining part of the character since 2005 that it makes sense it would throw the next incarnation for a loop

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Having said that, I prefer The Husband's of River Song tbh

cyan blaze
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I like that one too

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The ending is great

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Twelve and River have a lot of chemistry on screen

steel monolith
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13 better run into river at some point s2g

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also

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someone else write a 13 story

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please im begging you

stone crag
grave falcon
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They kept the intro

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Foundling

cyan blaze
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Which is quite the feat

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Anyways time to watch the special

grave falcon
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Tbh I think the episode is kinda messy. But Ncuti Gatwa and Millie Gibson chemistry make it peak

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I can already see them becoming my favourites. Also hooked on the mystery about Ruby birth mother

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I don't want to wait until May HG_CadBaneSoTrueBestie

grave falcon
vernal stag
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Copied my thoughts from elsewhere

grave falcon
vernal stag
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Ironic that it took not keeping the Chris in order to bring back Christmas specials

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I was so scared The Doctor might leave Ruby behind. I was like, “Wait, I thought she’d be an ongoing companion, but I haven’t been paying attention to news about the upcoming series”

grave falcon
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in the context of ruby mother though. i've seen people talk about her being rose. due to their narration starting on a similar note and both of them being 19 when they met the doctor, with that age being important in said narration

vernal stag
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Wait so if Ruby was born Christmas 2004…then Rose would’ve had a baby young and given it up? Hm…

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For a moment I mathed wrong and thought Ruby was 1994, but then realized 2004 and now I feel old

grave falcon
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either way, considering there didn't seem to be any records for ruby. her parents probably are either an alien, time traveller or from a different timeline/universe

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i can see this new series focusing a lot on the timeless child though. since it seems like chibnall did jack shit with it and now the new writers have to try and make something out of it

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god chibnall is just a worse JJ Abram's

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half bakes all his shit. then leaves his mess for the next person to clean up

vernal stag
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Yeah they should’ve just kept Chibnall on to take care of these threads

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Chibnall forever baby

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Chris Chibnall 2 era when

grave falcon
vernal stag
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Antz (1998) colorized

cyan blaze
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The Doctor joining in the musical number was peak Doctor Who camp

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I like how there’s this inner loneliness to Ncuti’s Doctor and just kind of the carried on sadness of not really knowing where he’s from

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Seems like a logical step from the events of Timeless Child

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Having him paired with a companion who is a foster child also going through the same notions was a brilliant choice

vernal stag
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Yeah. Again, I’m loving that this is not a completely clean slate. That just wouldn’t be Doctor Who.

cyan blaze
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Good to see

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Wonder how long this Mavity bit will last

vernal stag
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Maybe it’ll be a pivotal point in the 70th anniversary special

cyan blaze
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I think this special really showed that Russell isn’t just a one trick pony and that he wasn’t just gonna cash in on nostalgia by trying to do the same thing again. Just a lot of new fresh ideas.

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It’s nice to see

vernal stag
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For a moment I thought the motorcycle license plate said WHO7 and wondered if Bessie regenerated lol

cyan blaze
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It’s very different with the same classic Doctor Who energy

cyan blaze
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Can’t believe we are getting fucking John Lennon in Doctor Who

vernal stag
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I think if Ruby’s mother did end up being Rose he’d feel closer to a one trick pony. But they say there’s no database record of her parents so I doubt it’s Rose

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For the second time!

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Throwback to when The Beatles appeared in a First Doctor serial

vernal stag
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There’s like only one person I’ve seen who thought the special was “boring as sin.” Haven’t checked X eXtensively tho

cyan blaze
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Being a Doctor Who fan is a pain

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You wait a whole year for a couple new episodes only to have to wait a whole ass decade before the next season starts

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At least we got a full episode with Ncuti before the Spring wait

grave falcon
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I'm legitimately surprised it's not until may. I was expecting March at the latest

cyan blaze
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Considering they are already filming Ncuti’s second season lol

vernal stag
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I was expecting April actually

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Would be kinda funny if the premiere high-jacked May the 4th

warm scarab
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Yo

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That was so good

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They didn't have to go so hard

vernal stag
warm scarab
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I'm scared about getting attached to Ruby, they're going to like strand her in another galaxy or something lol

grave falcon
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Apparently this episode had the 3rd best live viewship in the uk yesterday. And overall viewership was close to the start of rival

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So yeah, a lot of people watched it HG_YodaLaugh

grave falcon
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She's definitely has one of the companion introductions

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Also a great mystery hook straight away

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I can see this being like the crack in Amy wall. Where the mystery of it all lasts most of the series

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And we get little pieces of information about it and hints every know and then

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Though my mind automatically goes too the master being involved somehow, considering we also don't know who picked them up

warm scarab
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You see the master cause Ruby's mother to...........

grave falcon
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The master the old woman HG_YodaLaugh

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Doctor gonna throw hands with a old lady

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Fuck them old people

warm scarab
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The Goblin King is basically Jabba The Hutt

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Floating fortress leading a ring of crime with small crazy creatures laughing and a band playing for him

grave falcon
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My parents tried to compare the pirate ship to the sail barge. And I was like, bitch have you see what the sail barge looks like?????

warm scarab
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It does make me wish Luke Skywalker defeated Jabba by singing

grave falcon
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Then impaling him on a church

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Bro got Angelus'd

warm scarab
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Emote material

grave falcon
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Max rebo after taking over jabba crime empire

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Also, happy we got the running around the tardis

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Nothing is more peak than a companion seeing the tardis for the first time

warm scarab
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But like why do the Doctor and Ruby have pipes though?
They better not waste that, they need to give us a full blown musical episode

grave falcon
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Oh yeah I'm gonna be disappointed if there isn't more musical numbers

warm scarab
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Ever since Star Trek had their musical episode, I've been obessesed with things that get random musical numbers or musical episodes

grave falcon
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You can't give us a doctor and a companion with great singing voices and not use that regularly

warm scarab
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There is an episode called The Devil's Chord coming up 👀

young birch
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Massive shout out to the set designers this episode(special?). The ship was so charming, and the apartment felt so real compared to past DW sets

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young birch
cyan blaze
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I loved that musical cue in when Ncuti said he was The Doctor

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proud echo
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I was pretty skeptical as to whether RTD still had it, as the 60th specials were very hit and miss
This special however was very solid, and has fully sold me on his return

random aspen
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This guy is the Master isn't he?

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He's just got that vibe about him.

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There's also a good chance that he's not, could just be some random alien disguised as a human.

cyan blaze
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Hard to tell

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Kind of surprised he’s jumping right back in with the Master again

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Since they’re largely taking a break with the Daleks and Cybermen for this season

random aspen
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It just sort of... makes sense? They teased the Toymakers gold tooth getting picked up. It seems weird they wouldn't do anything with that in the upcoming season. Like as said, the two could have no relation whatsoever.

cyan blaze
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Well no it does make sense I’m just shocked he’s going right back in on it after the Master was utilized so much during Capaldi and Whittaker’s eras

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It’ll be interesting to see what they do though

random aspen
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Oh definitely, I look forward to seeing this all play out.

vernal stag
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I think Matt Smith’s era is what conditioned fans with this idea that The Master constantly returning is weird. For Doctors 3-8, it was a more regular thing.

grave falcon
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You see, on one hand I really liked how consistent missy appearances was. But on the other I also liked how rare the master appeared in Tennants era. Kinda made when he did a oh shit moment

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Though its kinda clear they're trying to capture lightning in a bottle again. And it's only really worked with missy

vernal stag
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Tbh I never really liked John Simm Master until his final appearance

cyan blaze
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He was really good in The Doctor Falls

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Wait wrong special

grave falcon
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I liked him in the big appearances. But Michelle Gomez is honestly the better master out of the 3 in new who

vernal stag
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Close lol

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And that Christmas special was called Twice Upon a Time but I’ve called it that before too

cyan blaze
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Missy’s arc is great and by the end you are rooting for her

grave falcon
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She also slays

vernal stag
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Missy’s tragic end could’ve honestly been the end of the Master and it would’ve worked. But Sascha’s performance later was so damn good

grave falcon
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I liked the energy sascha brought, with the episodes I did watch. But it's kinda hard to like him in comparison to Michelle when the writing was just so bad

cyan blaze
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Capaldi’s final episodes were way better than they had any right to be considering Moffat’s writing, it’s literally fantastic

vernal stag
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Yeah those episodes are peak Doctor Who

cyan blaze
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The tie back to “Without hope, without witness, and without reward” with Missy’s end was great too

vernal stag
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Missy was so good on Doom Patrol

cyan blaze
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The actress is just amazingly energetic

grave falcon
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Yeah, I don't really think missy would have worked as well as she does if it wasn't Michelle playing her

vernal stag
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I know someone who’s never felt convinced with Michelle Gomez as The Master. But like…she looks kinda like Delgado and Ainley to me

grave falcon
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Missy is just a fortnite character HG_YodaLaugh

cyan blaze
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Love that scene

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I would have watched a whole series with Michelle Gomez as the Doctor

young birch
grave falcon
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Why do I always make the mistake of looking up this series on YouTube.

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Just fuckers constantly lying about viewership every week for attention

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"Doctor who's rating worst in history. DOCTOR WHO IS OVER BBC PANIKING!!!!!"
Bitch it was the 3rd most viewed program in the uk on Christmas

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And we only have the live and over night viewers. We're not gonna get the streaming numbers until next week

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also If doctor who causes the downfall of the BBC then good. I'd happily sacrifice this show if it killed them. (But even then Disney would probably just buy the rights to the show)

random aspen
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Do yourself a favour and get an extension that blocks these idiots from your recommended. Something like Blocktube.

grave falcon
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I don't watch YouTube on my PC much

grave falcon
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Its all on the PlayStation app

random aspen
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Ah I see.

grave falcon
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So I can't use and extention

stone crag
young birch
warm scarab
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I still get a lot of grifters grifting Marvel in my feed, I use the extension to block one channel and two more pop up

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It's like playing wack-a-mole with Hydra

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Like for example facepalm

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How the fuck is there so many grifting channels....
Welcome to modern day tabloids

vernal stag
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I wonder if they know how cringe they are

grave falcon
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Again, you can look them up really easily.
The special had 4.73 million overnight views in the uk alone. Below the star beast and above the giggle

warm scarab
grave falcon
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Also pretty sure the Disney plus numbers aren't getting released and we gotta wait a week for the uk streaming numbers. Which will probably be around 6-7 million

warm scarab
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Is Doctor Who getting release day and date on iPlayer?

grave falcon
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Iplayer let's you watch live so yeah

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You get the episode as it airs. Then get to watch it again and again afterwards

warm scarab
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$10 90% of these grifters have never seen an episode of Doctor Who before

grave falcon
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Oh its basically guaranteed

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It's also why it's generally small or dying channels on the grift rn

warm scarab
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Seems like a reasonable person

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Physical media is never going to die....or at least not for a long time

grave falcon
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These two would instantly cause these fuckers to have a heart attack If they showed up today

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stone crag
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Also has neil patrick harris in it

proud echo
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If only we could give them that memory wipe worm HG_CadBaneSoTrueBestie

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vernal stag
random aspen
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To this day, I still think the Seventh Doctor had the worst death of any of the Doctors.

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Far too cruel and is just a testament to the needless edgy themes that the 90s were going for.

vernal stag
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I remember seeing a post from a fan saying it “made sense” that the calculating and manipulative Seventh Doctor could only have been killed by a random occurrence like that

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Big Finish just released the first part of The Last Day, which is supposed to be the end of Seven’s life. Haven’t listened to it yet but I’m wondering if they tried to soften the blow somehow

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It really would’ve been fine if the montage at the beginning of the movie simply began with the Seventh Doctor asleep in his chair and then he regenerates then, waking up as the Eighth Doctor. Narration could’ve explained what was going on and how he’s gotten to the end of a life cycle.

cyan blaze
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Literally me

proud echo