Ahsoka

[fervent skiff]

kenobi is the most offensive example

[torpid stag]

https://fxtwitter.com/AhsokasMaximoff/status/1709392591215632692

idk what people are smoking when they complain about them "not slicing the troopers"

[fervent skiff]

trying to find a shot from kenobi twords the end

where hes at the lars homestead at night

and its so painfully obvious hes in the volume and they are only filmming like 5 feet from the wall

[fervent skiff]

mostly after they come back up

i thought the action was mostly fine till they start baking up and batting the troopers away

as soon as the zombies get up its like EVERYONE slows down

[torpid stag]

I rewatched the scene and Ezra and Ahsoka both slice 2 each before closing the doors lol.

the following corridor scene yeah it's a little wonky sure. Can give that to people

[fervent skiff]

its really weird

[torpid stag]

but then the very next scene is the bit with the deathtroopers

and that was raw

[fervent skiff]

the deathtroopers bit was pretty cool

pik and waffle 😭

[torpid stag]

rip in rip bozo

[fervent skiff]

dont talk shit about my baby boys >:(

[torpid stag]

waffle stole everything from waffleface

[fervent skiff]

anyway so i think i've said pretty much all i've wanted to say about Ahsoka

i'll leave with one final thing

Liking ahsoka is perfectly okay, but its also okay to acknowledge its flaws.
People calling it "peak star wars" are being just as hyperbolic as the people calling it garbage 👀
And if you genuinely love it more than any other star wars, good for you. But I cannot physically wrap my head around that idea ig lmao. Especially from the way I see it, as someone who deoesnt even like rebels that much, both the shows this show is a sequel too are better

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-harrison-ford-hans-solo-salute-gif-4762769

idk if i'll be watching skeleton crew, not super interested in The Mandoverse™️

if i hear good things about it i'll check it out

[torpid stag]

nah its' not peak star wars

[fervent skiff]

but im not gonna be tuning in for mando s4 or whatnot

[torpid stag]

we know what peak star wars looks like

[fervent skiff]

lmfaooo

https://tenor.com/view/andor-kino-loy-there-is-one-way-out-andy-serkis-one-way-out-gif-27095101

peak star wars was this line

[torpid stag]

https://tenor.com/view/sip-boba-fett-the-book-of-boba-fett-drink-staring-gif-23918962

[fervent skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/cassian-andor-diego-luna-star-wars-rogue-one-gif-26208515

[wary needle]

You’re telling me they didn’t film on an actual salty planet?

Peak Star Wars was Visions claymation and I’m tired of pretending it’s not 😤

[fervent skiff]

lmfaooo

lets goo

[viscid sage]

my tv’s contrast settings were a bit fucked up and it looked so much better 💀

[fervent skiff]

lmfaooo

its a shame cause White is my favorite lightsaber color

outside of the morgan duel we didnt get anything super cool

but that still felt really unnatural, it was def the best one in the show though

it wasnt like, AOTC dooku vs anakin bad but

they just gott make it feel a bit more grounded

hell the duel in mando s2 had so much weight too it and that was directed by filoni 😭

https://youtu.be/uNuwXM2of74

the lighting too is fucking perfect for the volume

that + the high walls (if those are real, or if just sections are like they do sometimes) really make this feel like a real location

maybe its the bigger posthetics she has now limiting her motion or something but

its okay to hire a stunt double guys 😭

[viscid sage]

i think the set there was all real if i remember correctly

[fervent skiff]

amaazing

i assume the skyline was valume though

looks great either way

got that smog look

[viscid sage]

the volume is like cgi, it was introduced as a really cool new tool for vfx but after a few poor uses people are acting like its inherently the problem

[fervent skiff]

yeah fr

it works great if you USE IT RIGHT

the first two seasons of mando used it great

The Batman

also great

im not 100% but wernt parts of glass onion filmed on the volume?

or what movie am i thinking of

[viscid sage]

i might be wrong but i think The Batman straight up just used projections as backdrops that were touched up in post

[fervent skiff]

i may be wrong too but i think they used the volume

[viscid sage]

but same principle

[fervent skiff]

lemme look it up

or well, yeah volume esc-tech

[civic hatch]

So, how has the conversation been going?

[fervent skiff]

https://youtu.be/Vuscpx-3odA

[fervent skiff]

good

[viscid sage]

https://tenor.com/view/vb-gif-25663467

[civic hatch]

That's fair

[fervent skiff]

no arguments anymore, mutual understand has been reached (I hope)

[civic hatch]

I saw there were like 200 new messages since I left

[fervent skiff]

lmfaoo

[civic hatch]

Or something idk I didn't count I just scrolled for a long time

[fervent skiff]

rn we're talking about the limitations of the volume

and how to use it correctly and when to use it and such

[civic hatch]

I also saw a lot of twitter links

[viscid sage]

yucky

[fervent skiff]

that dont embed yeah

[civic hatch]

I vaguely saw an argument about slicing the zombie troopers

I will say I mostly noticed they weren't cause it seemed to be a practical effects thing

[viscid sage]

it looked like fallen order lmao

[civic hatch]

Lots of grazing blows, like they didn't want to CG anything if they didn't have to so they just had the actors move the sword across their chest

[viscid sage]

the death trooper decapitation was cool tho the way it was shot was fun

[civic hatch]

Also why they did the shot with the pillar or whatever getting in the way when they beheaded that one dude

Yeah

[fervent skiff]

"They should make a live action clone wars series" No. Make another 2D one.

[civic hatch]

I think it was a little clunky tbh but the concept was cute

[viscid sage]

ive lowkey accepted clunky atp lmao

given the restraints of live action

[fervent skiff]

every time someone mentions him im sending the pic

[viscid sage]

waffle?

[civic hatch]

I guess, it's weird cause it feels like we went from AOTC having no sets or stand ins and just a bunch of people waving sticks around looking clunky and awkward to fully using standins and practical effects and it still feeling

[fervent skiff]

In the thrawn books we learn the name of thrawns 2 personal gaurd deathtroops

Pik and Waffle

[viscid sage]

[fervent skiff]

so im assuming those 2 and only DT's with thrawn were them

so

[viscid sage]

why is

[fervent skiff]

rest in peace my boys 😔

[viscid sage]

why is his name waffle

[fervent skiff]

its a bit

its because hes really serious and doesnt talk much

pik is the talkitive one

[civic hatch]

That's a good question, it has to do with Thrawn's species and their skin color. To learn more, google "blue waffle"

[viscid sage]

blud is not wafflin ab anything

[fervent skiff]

this is evil

ancient meme

the youth will not know

[civic hatch]

what youth

[fervent skiff]

the 15 year olds im assuming browse this server

its how old i was when i was here back in the day

[civic hatch]

this channel is mostly older members

maybe one or two stragglers, but they might as well learn

[fervent skiff]

squints yeah you right mostly

i dont reconize anyone cause most ppl changed their usernames and stuff 😭

i reconize afew people obvs but

[civic hatch]

The worst one is klaus and he deserves it

[fervent skiff]

if you knew me before please clarify with me

if you've like

changed up ur vibe

[civic hatch]

anyways yeah I lowkey wish the show was able to be more small scale solely so it can coordinate its visuals better

I really liked the practical ships

The set work was great

But the whole running up the tower scene felt kinda awkward, not terrible just kinda weird. Something about the way they looked when carrying their sabers felt off somehow. Maybe it was just the lighting or the angle.

[viscid sage]

the running was kind of awkward

the set + the space the sabers took up probably limited their movement

[fervent skiff]

its weird cause you can tell

they had to like

pool the budget

into what they thought really mattered

and so one scene looks amazing

and the next suddenly looks like a fanfilm for like 5 minutes

then its back to looking good again

its really inconsistant

[civic hatch]

I don't know if Disney and maybe streaming services as a whole have figured out how to do big budget tv yet

There was a limitation of the medium that broadcast had presented back in the day that seemed to result in more creative and clever methods

[viscid sage]

dont bring up animation’s advantages dont bring up animation’s advantages dont br

[civic hatch]

[fervent skiff]

they're trying to do like

movie scale stories

in 8 part series

when they should have really just trimmed it down and made it into a movie

full send

[viscid sage]

animated rebels sequel movie

[civic hatch]

What's wild is how some older series were able to do episodes that felt like cinematic with an extremely limited budget

[fervent skiff]

on god

its a crime the only animated star wars movie that made it to the big screen is TCW movie 😭

[viscid sage]

oh one thing i was gonna say after i watched is that i loved the shots near the end where u can see peridea’s rings through the clouds

so fuckin pretty

[fervent skiff]

peridea is a cool planet i'll say that much

[civic hatch]

I did like the way the ship leaving left this trail of clouds behind it, like it tore through the atmosphere

[viscid sage]

makes me wish even more that it wasnt just grey overcast the whole time so they could take advantage of the cool atmosphere

[fervent skiff]

which it was a little more original with landscape other than just being like new zealand when overcast but still

he wanted that LOTR vibe

[viscid sage]

star wars needs more planets where u can just see the rings in the sky

[fervent skiff]

which outside of face value references to LOTR i still dont see how narratively it is a parallels at all aside from ahsoka being reborn or w/e but even then the circumstances are completely different

[fervent skiff]

agreed

and making it like a ring

made of whale bones

is so fucking cool and something you'd only see in a franchise like star wars

the dark side is strong here cause its literally SORROUNDED BY A RING OF DEATH thats amazing

the show was at its best when it was showing us new things

which is why im so hung up on not finding out what baylan was looking for

[viscid sage]

i still really wish peridea was just fucking bizarre

[fervent skiff]

and it being connected to the morits gods just makes me disinterested cause

again

more stuff we've already seen

i hope its actual good payoff and sendoff to ahsoka

if they're doing mortis shit, it needs to be ahsokas end story wise cause that would tie in perfectly to her being saved by the daughter all those years ago

[civic hatch]

I'll be honest, Filoni ruined the mortis gods for me

[fervent skiff]

bro he made them

[civic hatch]

Exactly, it's wild

[viscid sage]

i never wanted to see the mortis gods outside that arc

[fervent skiff]

lmfaoo

same

[civic hatch]

When I was 14 I did

[fervent skiff]

but at this point if this is the climactic end of her arc and it ties back in subtly i could see it being cool if self contained

[civic hatch]

Careful what you wished for I guess lol

[fervent skiff]

its like the nightsisters

they are cool because you only fuck with them on dathomiir

they're weird and niche but fun

but now they're like

making zombie armies and shit and working with thrawn

it just feels goofy when they are involved in high stakes stuff

[viscid sage]

me as a kid: i wanna see a million bajillion star wars shows!!!
the secret genie under my bed: i dont even have to add the twist myself for this one

[fervent skiff]

LMFAOO

stealing that

[civic hatch]

It really is wild to me they actually did the zombie stormtroopers that were on the top of every 2010s article about the "TOP 10 COOLEST STAR WARS CONCEPTS TO ADAPT TO LIVE ACTION!!!" and they didn't even do anything with them

[viscid sage]

they zombee

[fervent skiff]

im mad they listened to said dumb articles

never listen to fans when they're like "OMG WE NEED __ THING"

No. Stop it.

also for the record

Morgan died before we knew anything about her, why she served thrawn or anything

[viscid sage]

i cant wait for the next big move by lucasfilm: the anakin saga

[grand thunder]

I mean we already saw zombie nightsisters prior so I don’t really have a problem with it

[fervent skiff]

we know pretty much everything about thrawns military carrier and hes never like, interacted with her to my knowledge

[viscid sage]

what do you mean? plot devices dont have motivations

[fervent skiff]

also why is a nightsister in the imperial ranks

[fervent skiff]

😭

[grand thunder]

Could they have done more with the zombie stormtrooper thing? Sure but not gonna lose sleep over it

[civic hatch]

I don't have an issue with the zombie thing necessarily, I just think it's funny people asked for zombie stormtroopers for over a decade and this what they got

[viscid sage]

i mean granted thrawn was kind of a freak in the empire if anyone would be mingling with some nightsister fuckwad it’d be him

i mean his second in command is a little grey goblin dude

hes just strange

[civic hatch]

They really should've shown thrawn understanding other cultures more than just vaguely commenting on them

[viscid sage]

throng

[civic hatch]

There's a lot that could be said about him being the only non human in the empire and how other cultures and species see him as a friend as a result and think he's going to bend the empire to their favor only for him to fuck them over in the end

[viscid sage]

👙

[fervent skiff]

comes down to my issues with the show as a whole

everything feels kinda undercooked

like they wasted alot of time on long shots of people saying nothing instead of doing things to tell us anything about the characters lmao 😭

i liked morgan a little, she was just an evil little stinker

i just wish we knew more about her before she just died lmfaoo

[civic hatch]

remember that inquisitor dude that poof exploded

[viscid sage]

star wars is so funny because thrawn is like this hyperintelligent mastermind who knows his enemy’s every move and thats only because he has like common sense and uses any form of strategy in contrast to every other imperial officer in the series who’s just like “pah! rebel scum! they couldnt possibly out-splink our scompwankers! 😏🥱oh no they out-splinked our scompwankers!🙀🙀”

[viscid sage]

marrok my farty sharty pookie wookums

you know, i was rewatching tales of the jedi and its funny that ahsoka has now turned two inquisitors into fart clouds. i like to think that had nothing to do with them, and she can just do that every once in a while

[civic hatch]

"get force farted" farts you with the force - Ahsoka

That's gotta be the title of some fanfic out there

[fervent skiff]

😭 what did i come back too

you guys send 6 messages when im gone heating up mac & cheese

and this was it

[viscid sage]

Enough of this! ダブルインクイジターオナラブラスト(Double Inquisitor Fart Blast)!!!

[fervent skiff]

what was dave filoni cooking 😭

[civic hatch]

beans

brussel sprouts

cheese

etc

[fervent skiff]

i hate this place

[grand thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/hate-angry-mad-pissed-palpatine-gif-10705178

[tired vector]

I'm kind of sad they killed Rukh considering how big of a character he is in the Thrawn story in Legends. I wonder if Enoch will be the one to take his place in the story and (spoilers for EU Thrawn trilogy) ||have Thrawn get betrayed and assassinated from within a la Caesar||

[viscid sage]

they better build some solid character for him if they’re gonna do that

anyways yeah og rukh goated rebels rukh cringe

[civic hatch]

Wait grey gremlin dude was from the books originally?

[rose vapor]

Yep

I was surprised too

[civic hatch]

That explains a lot

He always felt extremely random and out of place

[barren wigeon]

Star Wars fans be like “they keep bringing everyone back”

Also Star Wars fans “please bring back this character that died”

[fervent skiff]

theory isnt one of the people saying they keep bringing everyone back

hes one of the people who keep begging for vader shows and clone wars live action

man literally only wants the same thing over and over

was anyone else expecting when they revealed that rex would be in it that it would be old rex?

i mean im fine with old rex not being in it, no need for fanservice if he doesnt have a part in the plot

i just wonder what the guys up too

do all the clones just live retired in the old clone bar

on coruscant

thats my headcanon

[viscid sage]

and he had an actual backstory and was really important so idk why they just brought him back as a grunt instead of just making a new disposable character

🤷‍♀️

he also like spoke eloquently and wasnt a little gremlin

[wary needle]

I think killing him off creates unpredictability for how Thrawn’s fate may play out

Though again, I have a feeling his death will be a Pirates 3 situation in regards to what happens to ||Cutler Beckett||

[viscid sage]

CUTLER BECKETT DIES?????????

https://tenor.com/view/crying-mei-lee-turning-red-sad-upset-gif-23989157

[wary needle]

Also throwback to when someone with a Star Wars EU timeline site tried fitting Rebels into the timeline and said “We don’t SEE Rukh die…”

[viscid sage]

somehow rukh returned

[wary needle]

I like that Warwick Davis voiced him

Thought it was stupid when he was sent back spray painted up though

[viscid sage]

seriously?? 😭😭

[wary needle]

Yes. Seriously. I liked that he voiced him. Deal with it.

I will not tolerate any Warwick Davis slander 😤

[ashen pivot]

Wait who are we talking about?

[rose vapor]

Warwick Davis is goated

He plays a shit ton of characters

He plays AT LEAST 1 character in a star wars movie since Return of the Jedi

[ashen pivot]

Yeah but what character in this context?

[rose vapor]

He voiced Rukh in Rebels

[ashen pivot]

WHOA

Never would’ve guess that

[rose vapor]

I don't understand what the confusion is, am I missing something

[viscid sage]

bro how dare u

i just didnt know it was him

im insulted u would think i dont like warwick davis 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[crystal pebble]

You don't like Warwick Davis?!
SMH 😭

[wary needle]

I love this chat lol

It’ll last forever even with the series done

[viscid sage]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-mad-angry-gif-15025311

[fervent skiff]

https://x.com/MrBrecken/status/1710395601408414025?s=20

Lord Baylan (@MrBrecken)

Its wild how polarizing Ahsoka is all of a sudden lol.

People either loved it or think it was the biggest miss of all time.

The internet only works in extremes.

Likes

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Twitter · Oct 6, 2023, 8:44 PM

"all of a sudden" mf wasnt paying attention all 2 months the show aired what

shits been controversial since day one

[fervent skiff]

https://x.com/SequelsR/status/1710640891122024941?s=20

[civic hatch]

I just see a twitter link and sequels in the username so I'm gonna assume it's bait

[fervent skiff]

just talking about how in TLJ, even with action scenes where the extras are doing jack diddly they keep the camera moving and keep the shadow boxers mostly out of frame

and thats kinda why ppl think ahsoka feels so clunky, there will be like a long 6 second shot that just holds on the three like kicking away zombies when the ones that arnt being directly attacked just stand around and stare or shuffle around

this isnt TLJ throne room fight where you gotta analize it frame by frame to notice the shadowboxing either i noticed it my first time around

Blames bad action on small budget

"Write within the budget then"

"It was >:("

😭

[fervent skiff]

https://x.com/metaplexmovies/status/1710351591704834159?s=20

this entire thread sums up my thoughts decently well

[ashen pivot]

“We’re never given a reason to care”
📽️

[civic hatch]

If you went into it having a reason to care, then doesn't that mean they didn't give it to you

Like I cared enough to watch this cause I liked Ahsoka in the Clone Wars, nothing really in the show added on to that.

[fervent skiff]

i watched rebels and tcw, the only care i got out of this show was when it was resolving something from there

this show does not stand on its own, and i cannot see how anyone thinks that is a positive thing

[civic hatch]

I mean I can see how that's not necessarily a complete negative

[fervent skiff]

ahsoka feels so out of place

its trying to be a mandalorian continuation and a sequel to rebles and clone wars and idk if those things mix very well

[civic hatch]

Yeah that I'd agree with

I think in theory this could've worked a lot more if she didn't show up in Mando

I know plotwise the only real carry over is diet-nightsister lady

But in general I think it would've changed the atmosphere going into it

[fervent skiff]

i also have the feeling that season 2 of ahsoka is gonna be entirely focused on the pererdia stuff, and thrawn is gonna be the mandalorian / movie threat

i mean i could be wrong completely

but i swear if ahsoka s1 is setup mostly for the mandalorian movie and stuff then 😬

gonna have to see how this show airs

i wonder if you'll NEED to have seen this show to understand mando s4 or if they'll use mando as a bridge because he'd be unfamiliar with this stuff too

then again they didnt explain jack shit in season 3 for people who didnt see book of boba fett so

i cant believe disney+ points you too season 3 after you finish season 2

ik i complain about this every single time it comes up but WHY ON EARTH DID THEY PUT ESSENTIAL MANDALORIAN DEVELOPMENT IN BOOK OF BOBA FETT??

[civic hatch]

Is it weird that at this point I'd argue this was more of a letdown than Mando?

[fervent skiff]

ITS SO FRUSTRATING

it ruins not just boba fett but mandalorian aswell

they ruined 2 shows with 2 episodes of one show

how did they do that

its mind boggling

[civic hatch]

Like I personally had zero faith or enjoyment in Mando from minute one so it was very like, oh well that it fell into everyone's bad graces after the fact

[fervent skiff]

honestly thats fair cause at least mandalorian had a semi-satsfying resolution, it still did the ahsoka thing where it ignored half the stuff it set up but it still wrapped up MOST of the plot points

ahsoka, again, only resolved like 2 small things in the last episode

[civic hatch]

I mean I don't know about any of that

Cause ya know, I didn't see season 3

[fervent skiff]

1 with a line of dialogue spoken without the 2 characters it was relavent too in the room, and the other was just the fact thrawn and ezra got to go home

[fervent skiff]

then why you talkin shit if you havent seen it

go watch it so you can at least hate it honestly

lmfao

[civic hatch]

No I mean in terms of the first season

[fervent skiff]

im so confused rn

[civic hatch]

Like when Mando was announced I didn't see any real potential in it the same way other people did

So when it sucked I wasn't like disappointed

But Ahsoka I was hopeful about

[fervent skiff]

is mf saying mando s1 sucks 🗿

[civic hatch]

Very much so

[ashen pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-popcorn-eating-gif-18107571

[civic hatch]

You weren't here for that on going back and forth

[marble epoch]

Luna, I can't believe we're debating over the science of nightsister zombie magick lol

[fervent skiff]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/11-07-2022/yl3Zth.gif

[fervent skiff]

filoni is the one who decided to make morrok explode and not reveal directly why he did that lmfao

[ashen pivot]

Wait is that what this is about?

[fervent skiff]

we popped in from loki

[marble epoch]

Marrok I said he was a zombie like the night troopers

[civic hatch]

Ohhh

[fervent skiff]

he was saying morrok is a zombie and im like "eh probably not"

[civic hatch]

I was so lost for a sec

[ashen pivot]

More like a ghost probably

[fervent skiff]

not trying to be like "uhm actually 🤓 " but uhm actually

lmfaoo

[ashen pivot]

Cosplaying ghost

[fervent skiff]

i mean again, its not a huuuge deal we didnt know anything about morrok

random nobody bad guys exist in star wars all the time

[civic hatch]

I just sum it up to wasted runtime

[marble epoch]

I just think it's hilarious we're debating over the science of fictional nightsister zombie magicks

[civic hatch]

You know

[fervent skiff]

but he added the green gas to like lead us to be like "ooo whats his deal" and they never explain it

[civic hatch]

Everyone says that "oh nothing bad guys exist in star wars" but like, do they really?

[fervent skiff]

so the only thing you can do is look at TCW and be like "Well Savage did that"

[civic hatch]

Cause usually a random bad guy serves a narrative purpose

[fervent skiff]

to give ahsoka 2 cool fight scenes exclusively

[civic hatch]

I'll give you CW has isolated random bad guys that are just the main antagonist of whatever arc or episode they're in

[ashen pivot]

Honestly I prefer more inquisitors just fading off. They really should be dead by now

[fervent skiff]

Anyway my point is i dont think its dumb that we're debating anything, infact this isnt really even a debate

i just saw something, you said it was a zombie, i dont think it is and so im gonna say why

[marble epoch]

I don't know if I needed to learn who and what Marrok was, he was a former Inquisitor with some nightsister voodoo going on, I'm good.

That being said my butt would still be in the seats for a Marrok: A Star Wars Story

[fervent skiff]

lmfaoo

[ashen pivot]

I’ll agree Marrok was kinda pointless. At least currently

[fervent skiff]

idk i just felt like he was pointless

its not like we needed to know his entire backstory

[fervent skiff]

but its kinda weird that filoni put him in, had the green magic stuf and all that and it just never came up again

like it seemed like that was setup

[wary needle]

Nightsisters magic is green, no?

[fervent skiff]

to show us a similar thing later, which you COULD say are the zombies but AGAIN, the zombies dont explode into green gas when they die lmfaoo

[wary needle]

So I’d buy into him being a zombie if that’s the case

[fervent skiff]

^^^^

dont make me point to the sign

[rose vapor]

https://twitter.com/cbd__c0rndog/status/1709789482680222103?t=4yz7CqRGP6bkJ3YsGexCvQ&s=19

[wary needle]

Maybe force but dead equals green fart gas

Stormtroopers don’t have enough m count

[fervent skiff]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/11-07-2022/yl3Zth.gif

marrok was likely just stregth inhanced by morgan

[civic hatch]

You know I think that it does kinda tie into that Abrams critique where it feels like the way you designed or set up a character implies importance even if it's never explicitly stated.

[fervent skiff]

but again they coulda just had him as a normal inquisitor lmfao

they teased the whole green gas thing only for a DIFFERENT power to be used later, making everyone assume marrok is a zombie (again, he most definantly isnt, he literally walks and talks like a normal person)

[wary needle]

Should’ve just had Matthew Lillard play him without a mask and nobody would be critiquing smh

[civic hatch]

The thing is like inquisitors were exclusively imperials, they worked for the empire. Baylan and Shin are mercenaries, and explicitly not inquisitors as far as I remember. So he's just sorta with them as like another dude randomly tagging along, and you can assume the reasons why, but then he also magic explodes and it's all leaving a weird open ended nature to a character that didn't need to be. He could've just been a magnaguard-esque droid there to fight a hero to distract them and then that'd be it.

[marble epoch]

I wouldn't say pointless, he served his job which was to be an extra body for them to fight without much stakes

Same kind of role the sixth brother served in Twilight of the Apprentice, or Boba Fett in the OT

[civic hatch]

No see that's the thing

That's reductive to their roles in the narrative

[marble epoch]

Matthew Lillard should just play everyone

[ashen pivot]

Okay but he has to scream like shaggy when he dies

[civic hatch]

Boba Fett is designed just to look like a mercenary, his character is presented in a way that you know exactly who he is just by looking at him. Battle damaged scrappy armor, one in a line up of other scrappy bounty hunters, but Vader specifically says to him "no disintergrations" to highlight that he's particularly ruthless. So when he tracks Han down we know that's because he's better at his job just from one line. Well executed minor antagonists aren't just a character randomizer function of "looks evil" that are thrown into the plot, they're usually designed in a such a way that you get their deal without much exposition or runtime.

The sixth brother is also the main antagonist of his episode, yeah he doesn't have a full backstory but his design perfectly describes who he is. He's an inquisitor sent to kill Jedi, including Ahsoka. The explosion thing is a little random, but it's isolated and not leading to any other storyline later or tied into anything else.

[ashen pivot]

No he’s way cooler than OT boba

[marble epoch]

I would argue Marrok served that well, they didn't have any exposition explaining how he was good at his job, instead they showed us https://youtu.be/t8_jRzsUWUo

He is the only inquisitor that held his own that well against Ahsoka

Yes he still died later, but all the others got bodied

Anyways I'm just saying I think Marrok did his job

On the note of fights, I haven't had a chance to gush over this fight yet because I've been so busy https://youtu.be/PSvuOQUNW3U

[plain iris]

I'm still disappointed with Marrok because I'd expect the supposed last surviving loyal inquisitor to have some interesting things do say and do but he just dies before saying anything relevant

Like I'm ok with getting fodder enemies but can we get fodder enemies that don't have cool character concepts?

[marble epoch]

We all know Marrok is getting a comic or a book or something lol

[plain iris]

I'd rather him be interesting on his first appearance

[marble epoch]

Oh for sure

But we all know it's going to happen lol

[plain iris]

It doesn't excuse it much

[marble epoch]

Anyways best Inquisitor title still goes to

https://tenor.com/view/trilla-suduri-inquisitor-starwars-gif-15723369

and second place is still

https://tenor.com/view/grand-inquisitor-inquisitor-inquisitors-star-wars-rebels-empire-gif-25923878

[plain iris]

Oh look. Characters that actually do and say interesting stuff

[marble epoch]

To be fair Paulo, it's not like the villains in this show are not interesting, Marrok was like the only not interesting villain and he still was the fan favorite cool looking character

[civic hatch]

I'm not saying Boba Fett was different cause he was good at his job, I'm saying that his entire character served a clear purpose. The way he was designed, the way other people talked about him, the setting he was in, and the plot function he served. Marrok being an inquisitor means he was an Imperial, which clashes with Baylan and Shin who clearly don't give a shit about the Empire. Maybe he was hired separately, but in terms of the larger narrative it's weirdly clunky for a character whose only purpose is to slow down the hero for a second. So just make him a droid with a vibro staff or something.

[plain iris]

That's why it grind my gears so much he dies this early.
And even then. Baylan and Shin are cryptic as hell about their motivation, and Thrawn is pretty underwhelming.

[ashen pivot]

7th sister is underrated. Even if she’s inappropriate

[civic hatch]

Is 7th the big lady from Fallen Order?

[plain iris]

Morgan has the "Revive Dathomir" thing, which is decent

[ashen pivot]

I thought that was the rebels lady inky

[marble epoch]

She was the one Maul cut in half vertically

[ashen pivot]

Okay I got the right number then

[civic hatch]

Oh that girl, I don't remember her much

[marble epoch]

There's not much to remember than how she died

[ashen pivot]

She had a cool voice, and a droid friend. Like BD, but hovering

[wary needle]

I never once expected Marok to be important

But part of that is due to Star Wars’ track record

[marble epoch]

She has the second coolest inqusitor death, first is Trilla getting diced by Vader lol

[ashen pivot]

I expected him to return at least

[civic hatch]

I will say the big lady inquisitor I think is a good example of a minor antagonist. She's an extension of the Empire, she's there to taunt Cal and serve as more aggressive than Trilla, she doesn't need a backstory but still you can assume details based on Trilla's explanation, and she's cool and distinct looking visually.

[plain iris]

Hopefully his death being weird signals he still has a role to play

[ashen pivot]

Has anyone but Kanan stuck their saber in the inq. handle yet?

[marble epoch]

Ahsoka with Marrok

When he died

If I'm not mistaken

[marble epoch]

eh we'll see, Ahsoka is obviously getting a second season, Disney+ even listed this as a "season finale" not a series finale

And the story is no where near being done

[plain iris]

Yeah but the way he's treated in the season makes it seem they are very much done with the character.

I mean Shin seems upset but there's no exchange where she talks about it

[marble epoch]

Marrok is probably done, but his death might still play some role, we'll see

Baylan, is a sad one, he was so cool and they obviously had more planned for the character and now Ray passed away so they have to decide what to do next

I'm personally in this case, in favor of a recast if it's the right actor

[civic hatch]

Honestly just have him in a few Tales of the Jedi episodes

Build up his backstory with an animated counter part and a convincing VA

[plain iris]

I mean, you could say that about a lot of characters, even stories

[civic hatch]

Oh for sure it's a little too easy

But in this specific instance where the actor has passed away and the show failed the character, I'd rather see him get a similar treatment to Dooku in TotJ than a quick recast or worse just being written off.

[viscid sage]

im not against a recast but i think it would be hard for anyone to match the specific energy he brought to the character

which like, can be said about any recast really. but here it feels particularly like it would just take me out of it

its so sad that he was gone dude i wish he could see all the love for his performance. he was so energetic at SW celebration its crazy how out of the blue his passing was

[fervent skiff]

sorry im a bit late to the convo i was out for a minute

i also just think the inquisitors have been hella overused anyway, the fact theres like 20 ppl running around with red lightsabers waving around during the OT era was a bit jarring to me from the start, and outside of Reva and Trilla, we havent had much character out of these "characters" lmao

i mean the grand inquisitor was fun

he was a spooky bad guy

too bad he died and got replaced by tweedle dee and tweedle dumbass

https://tenor.com/view/fifth-brother-seventh-sister-temple-guards-jedi-temple-guards-lothal-temple-gif-25854320

[viscid sage]

god the s2 inquisitors

so fuckin dumb

[fervent skiff]

they suck

that happens twice in this show where one season had a slapper villain and the next season is a downgrade

[viscid sage]

im still mad marrok never helicoptered away in this show

damn cowards

[fervent skiff]

S1 Grand Inquisitor
S2 two sucky inquisitors
S3 we have GRAND ADMIRAL THRAWN and Maul
S4 we have some governer lady and rukh with thrawn only popping in like twice😭

s2 had vader sometimes who was cool

but its weird to me that s1 and s3 have slapper bad buys

but s2 and s4 kinda fall flat (aside from vader obvs)

but vader isnt the villain for like 90% of the season

again its fucking team rocket over there

inquisitors have been overused in the media and it makes every bad guy post-order 66 with a red lightsaber feel dumber

[viscid sage]

i love that one ep in s2 just starts with them in the middle of a battle w the inquisitors like its just an annoying tuesday routine

never any stakes

[fervent skiff]

cause now we got 15 inquisitors, Taron from fallen order, Dagon from survivor, SPOILER also from survivor

[fervent skiff]

literally

just a cold open of them casually beating them like its casual sunday brunch

such a non-threat

[viscid sage]

ive warmed up to the idea of inquisitors but i feel that in rebels they just wanted them as an excuse to have lightsaber battles and there were probably more creative ways to have done that

i like saber vs saber resistant weapon battles

esp when the weapons are weird and unconventional like the variety of praetorian guard weapons

[crystal pebble]

https://vxtwitter.com/cbd__c0rndog/status/1709789482680222103?

[valid blaze]

Everyday I'm more convinced that star wars theory has never actually watched star wars and just vader scene compilations on YouTube

[wary needle]

I wish we could ban all SWT clips from this server tbh

I don’t like being reminded of that dude’s existence

Imagine if they made a Star Wars Tales or Star Wars What If anthology type series and titled it Star Wars Theory to spite him lmao

[crystal pebble]

Nah, that'd just inflate his ego

😭

And the media would rush to his defense, like with Zeroh and Johnson

[barren wigeon]

“That’s my channel name”

[tired vector]

I support this

[civic hatch]

You have the power, Masterbuilt

No one would stop you

[raven sentinel]

And twitter links while we’re at it

[ashen pivot]

What if we limit it to one swt meme a month?

[ashen pivot]

You lil shit

[echo sapphire]

why am i one of the only people who think it’s just mid

it isn’t the worst show ever but far from the best either

https://youtu.be/DH96u9w3xiQ?si=qUIrwwbxMtElbAvT

[echo sapphire]

just a giant trailer for other projects, mcuification of star wars here we fucking go

[marble epoch]

Nah they're definitely going to capitalize on a second season

I expect the movie will be like a situation where the movie acts as the finale for Ahsoka

And possibly Mandalorian

Similar to how TOS and TNG in Star Trek both ended with movies

Or Lilo and Stitch The Series ended with a movie

So on

[wary needle]

Or how The X-Files ended with a movie

[crystal pebble]

No, I have heard plenty of others say the same thing

[echo sapphire]

at least some people can learn to criticize a show properly

[plain iris]

I feel Thrawn's danger exists more in a meta context than in the shows themselves.
People understand he's a big deal but more because of his importance in his book trilogy rather what he actually does.

[solid pewter]

https://open.spotify.com/track/5C5srimZOi4A6yON47nT5G?si=9abae703dcc746f0
https://open.spotify.com/track/5U5ihm4qxWQIJL9rThJSGm?si=ef6b9e38d7664cd4

Another Star Wars show, another PHENOMENAL soundtrack

holy shit

Star Wars is incapable of missing with music

[barren wigeon]

Pretty sure his last recording involved more kids

I refused to skip the credits of every episode because that outro music was just so good

[civic hatch]

My friends were talking about soundtracks and one tried to say SW was missing lately and I had to shut him up real quick. Like bro has been watching less than I have lately, he didn't even hear any of these gems.

[solid pewter]

Kevin Kinner brings such an interesting vibe to Star Wars

Especially with Ahsoka

sonically, it's so different from his Clone Wars and Rebels scores

The music in Star Wars has been the most diverse and rich aspect ever since Disney + started pumping out Star Wars shows

If you think Star Wars music slipped up ever

https://tenor.com/view/cat-with-the-bat-wrong-stupid-wrong-stupid-gif-14805726

[barren wigeon]

I love all the memes when bobf is everyone just jamming to the theme regardless of their thoughts on the show

[solid pewter]

I keep saying this every time a new Star Wars show comes out

The one thing that always brings people together is the music

[grand thunder]

https://youtu.be/xxbSUehZGa0?si=6F1ESsIulJyfN9Z4

[fervent skiff]

BEHOLD: an entire threat of star wars theories own fans cooking him

https://x.com/PunishedJake2/status/1710823211758461150?s=20

[viscid sage]

these two have singlehandedly been keeping me afloat

[barren wigeon]

The Thrawn Luke comment makes me wonder if he even watched rebels.. I wonder if he even watches Star Wars stuff to begin with

[dapper lake]

holy shit who fucking cares

you could be spraypainting rebel emblems on federal buildings but you're reading meta trolling against youtubers

[fervent skiff]

what would this achieve though

[solid pewter]

More than reposting SWT

[dapper lake]

Me calling you based instead of cringe

[fervent skiff]

also me getting fined for vandalism 😭

[fervent skiff]

i think bullying dumb people is important to the economy

[viscid sage]

if you also blow up part of the building the vandalism will be an afterthought. problem solved

[barren wigeon]

Not if you dress like Batman

[solid pewter]

You aren't bullying them

You're reposting people bullying them

[fervent skiff]

is that not participating in said bullying

lmao

[barren wigeon]

You’re right, so lets go bully them

[solid pewter]

Best way to actively hurt shitbags is to not acknowledge their existence

If you want to bully them

go on twitter and do it yourself

Tell them to kill themselves or something idk

go crazy

Most people other than like 3 or 4 here just kinda see SWT and groan to themselves because they don't want to be reminded he exists

I love opening HG and seeing 561365 quintillion twitter posts how ShitBagTheory3665 is pissed because Maul didn't suck Thrawn's toes in the Ahsoka finale

[fervent skiff]

lmfaooo

[main ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-plankton-alright-i-get-it-i-get-it-enough-gif-19558825

[fervent skiff]

i posted this thread to show that even his own fans are turning on him

but fine jeez i wont post anymore

thought making fun of SWT was the common ground between ppl who did and didnt like the show 👀

[dapper lake]

Sure every now and then but most of us here are very anti-constant hating

I haven't thought about star wars theory of my own fruition in years, it's only when one of you brings it up

It's like subreddit wars

Meta bullshit

[wary needle]

https://tenor.com/view/alice-in-wonderland-punch-mad-gif-12054431

Whenever SWT gets mentioned

[dapper lake]

Whenever twitter drama gets mentioned

And that goes beyond twitter to, that's just the blanket term

twitter/reddit/youtube/whatever - METAdrama

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-lemon-demon-as-your-father-i-expressly-forbid-it-funny-lemon-demon-minecraft-wacky-headbang-gif-gif-21735019

[viscid sage]

i like coming here to just talk ab star wars away from whatever fuckshit is happening in the larger online fanbase

[dapper lake]

yup

https://tenor.com/view/reggie-animal-crossing-new-leaf-thats-all-the-time-i-have-reggie-animal-crossing-new-leaf-gif-14738540

[plain iris]

How do you guys feel about Force Sensitive Sabine?

Personally I think it was a bit out of nowhere. In terms of abilities Sabine was already fine. I don't feel this does much for her character. If it was to have a revenge driven warrior looking for power dynamic with Ahsoka I think they could have pulled that fine without the force element. Ahsoka spent time on mandalore in TCW after all, and she also trained several militias.
I'm not necessarily against the concept of a low sensitivity individual trying to make the best out of their very limited abilities, I found Chirrut a very interesting concept after all, but I don't feel they needed sabine to do that.
Which brings me to another issue. At the end of the day her being force sensitive isn't that big of a problem, but I don't like how she just gets over it at the end after a stressful situation to a level that could can be considered "normal" force user. If her big moment was to move the lightsaber just an inch so it falls to her hand, for example, I think it'd open a path to a much more interesting relationship between her and the force. Where she can only do very minor things. But it seems going forward they are just going to slightly nerf her in relation to her contemporaries, at least based on the final episode.

[civic hatch]

I agree

There's something a little egh about the idea that growth as a character is represented almost by someone's ability to ascend into a force user status. I felt the same way with Finn in the ST, it almost feels devaluing to the "normal" people of the galaxy when it's something that anyone can achieve given enough I guess faith? Low sensitivity translating into only being able to do slight actions is fine, but when it's like this barrier you need to cross or some higher calling you need to answer it feels kinda arbitrary.

[marble whale]

See I don’t think it was something Filoni originally intended when writing Sabine’s character in Rebels

I think it was something when writing Ahsoka he just thought “oh that would be cool”

She already knows how to duel so it’s perfect right? Because how neat would a Jedi Mandalorian be on screen or something of that regard

[valid blaze]

As a massive fan of sabine. I'm fine with it and it ties way back to rebels with her training with the dark saber.
Also I think it drives home the idea that being a force user isn't a decided and anybody can be one given the time and dedication

[marble whale]

Personally I felt like it wasn’t necessary to her character she can still duel and not need to be force sensitive or force using

[valid blaze]

Also ties into one of my favourite luke scenes in the rise of kylo ren comic.

[ashen pivot]

You need to beliiiiieve in yourself

[civic hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/you-just-got-to-believe-spongebob-mindy-believe-trust-gif-14421927

See I think the concept of the Force expressing itself in different ways is more interesting and allows for different stories and characters. Sabine is an artist and a fighter, it would be interesting if the Force simply expressed itself through her paintings as visions or just made her a better fighter cause she had that Jedi "see things before they happen" reflexes. I feel like it'd be a stronger arc if Ahsoka realized she was pushing Sabine too hard to be the kinda Jedi she expected and instead let her be herself and that's what strengthened their bond. Even if it's something simple like she's able to paint the village Ezra is in and that's how they find him on Peridia.

[ashen pivot]

Imagine the force from playing an instrument

[plain iris]

I personally don't like the idea of anyone can be a force user(to the degree we consider normal) because it has some big in universe implications. For the force to be rare as to be thought of as a myth like in EP4 it either needed to have very subtle powers or for it's wielders to have a degree of uniqueness. EP5 expands it to be partially a form of telekinesis so that would beg the question, if this what the force can do and everyone can achieve it how did force users go nearly extinct? Surely there'd be several cults and be much more widespread. Imagine if knowing Kung Fu actually let you leap 4 meters into the air. Every military in the world would do it.
That leaves the second option, which justifies the existence of midichlorians. There is a process through which some have more natural abilities than others. Thus force sensitivity is not a widespread thing, there are those who naturally feel it, and those who don't. But that still leaves a third party, the Chirrut types, those not enough to be noticed or that dedicate themselves whole heartily to the cult, and exhibit abilities you could mistake for well trained body and mind.
That's how I think "everyone can use the force " should manifest. Very subtly.

[civic hatch]

They kinda had that in Visions, there was an episode focused on a young girl that was able to purify corrupted Kyber crystals just by singing. She was able to harmonize with the Force in a literal sense.

[valid blaze]

That's not really how a person perception of the force works in canon though. The only character I know of who's specific perception of the force manifests as a unique ability for them in avar kriss, where she views the force as a song and herself like a conductor, letting her connect people across the galaxy through the force

[civic hatch]

I'm just saying I think it's more interesting that way

[ashen pivot]

I just want element benders in SW, is that so much to ask?

[civic hatch]

They always talk about how the Force is more than just moving rocks around and how everything is connected including the rocks and the trees and the air and the stars and then when it comes down to it they fall back on a character moving things around with their mind to show they "mastered" or "accepted" it.

[valid blaze]

You see I fundamentally disagree, because I don't like the idea of being a force user being linked to being born special. The idea of anybody being able to access the force as long as they're open too it, is far more appealing for me

[marble whale]

Maybe Han Solo was a Jedi in secret

[ashen pivot]

That is a theory. Han being so good at flying because he’s force sensitive

[marble whale]

Don’t be stupid it’s because of his high midichlorian count

[civic hatch]

While yeah that's the thing, if Han was always able to move things with his mind then it makes it seem like he was just not a good person for not doing it or lesser than people who are open to it. But if you say his trust in his piloting was an expression of the way the Force is in all of us then you have it both ways.

He's both just a dude and also part of the Force. He's special without having to fall in line with the Jedi's mentality specifically or having to cross a specific barrier.

[plain iris]

I disagree. To me the force actually "choosing" people gives it a much more interesting dimension. Because it means the force can have angency. It can put people in certain places that affect certain events. This makes it a lot more mysterious to me. Disconnected to a degree. It's not just a power you can draw from if you work hard enough. You work with it as much as it works with you. And this limitation opens a lot more narrative avenues between those "chosen" and those not.
The force being freely achievable is good for self projection but narratively I like it more how it really is in this aspect

[ashen pivot]

That does put into question if intuition and skill are a separate thing in SW, or simply just the force

[marble whale]

The thing is the logic switches up every trilogy

[ashen pivot]

Luminous beings, these trilogies are

[marble whale]

I want to see the alternative universe version of this show where it was animated I feel like it would make a fairly substantial difference towards my opinions on the show

[civic hatch]

See I like the idea that the Force is more an energy that connects people in ways beyond anyone's comprehension. It feels more like a religious concept like how it was originally described. Being true to yourself and content with your life is a way to achieve harmony with the Force, sometimes that means being a Jedi and moving stuff with your mind, sometimes that means being a diplomat and helping people with your words, sometimes that means being a free spirited pilot, or a strong headed warrior, or a simple farmer. Everyone is capable of reaching a point of harmony no matter how that looks, and the Force will guide you there if you trust it and yourself. That's kinda why I don't really get what Sabine was struggling with so much. She seemed more open to it than most people would be, I guess she just needed Ahsoka's full support? But Ahsoka just kinda kept saying the same thing over and over and I don't really get how that's in line with accepting who Sabine is so much as it's just ignoring the stuff about her that doesn't fit within the narrow minded view of a truly enlightened force user.

And I really don't like that it came down to another "she was scared Sabine would use her power for evil" storyline, it can work but there wasn't much nuance to it when the only way we heard that expressed was through Huyang talking to Ezra.

[plain iris]

It kind of felt like they wanted a conflict with her relationship to Ahsoka, but only came up with idea when shooting the final episode

[civic hatch]

Maybe it'd work better if Ahsoka regretted her life as a soldier, equating that solely to the idea of being a killer. Maybe she didn't like that she was good at it, that she formed strong bonds in service and never moved on from that lifestyle even after the war ended. And so when she sees Sabine, another literal child soldier, seeking out conflict in Thrawn and continuing her need to be a part of a larger battle, she's worried cause that's how she sees herself. But they both need to accept that the thing that draws them to action is helping the defenseless, not defeating an opponent.

[viscid sage]

ive always loved different ways the force manifests itself in people uniquely. its what i liked about the Sith episode of visions s2 even if there wasnt a plethora in the way of cohesive narrative there. i wish sabine’s connection to the force, if explored as all, went down a similarly unconventional route

hell even ezra who has his affinity with animals, and the way he fights a lot more hand to hand now, is a small but cool example

[tepid shore]

Force is Force

[viscid sage]

hmm yes the force here is made of force

[viscid sage]

where was yarael poof when thrawn returned

we need to know

[tepid shore]

Jail

[marble whale]

Me when I use the force to turn Baby Yoda into a green smoothie

[valid blaze]

Honestly If the force exists in all things and connects everything in the universe. The idea that only a select few can ever truly access it is stupid as shit. And just turns the force into a cools kids club that you can only join if you're lucky enough to be the 1% born with natural access or from some super important bloodline

[plain iris]

Pussy. Eat that goblin raw

[plain iris]

And that creates a lot of interesting dimensions to it imo

[civic hatch]

But that's the thing, there's nothing inherently good about moving stuff with your mind. Like in theory sure it's cool, but it's just like any other real world "advantage" or "talent." It's only useful if it helps you feel fulfilled.

[valid blaze]

It really doesn't, it just creates bloodlines bullshit that literally everybody wanted to move away from during the ST

[civic hatch]

But it's not inherently a bloodline thing

It can be random, the midichlorians are definitely a weird genetic nonsense that I think is unnecessary.

[valid blaze]

Aside from the fact literally every even remotely important event in the star wars universe has been decided or caused by force users.

[civic hatch]

That doesn't go against what I said

Also Han was just as if not more important than Luke in ANH

[plain iris]

Bloodlines are just one element of the force operating this way. And you only abide to it if you want to.

[civic hatch]

Leia was too, before she was written into force using, and even then all of her important moments until TLJ had nothing to do with telekinesis.

It was kinda neat the only real expression of the Force she had was being able to sense her friends and family and know where they are.

[plain iris]

But if we go by anyone can achieve jedi level with enough hardwork then you can literally solve every problem with the force

[civic hatch]

Lando blew up the second death star

Didn't need the force for that

Or at least not specifically telekinesis

Saying you need to be more open to the Force feels like if someone told me I need to be more open to being taller.

[valid blaze]

💀

Thats not even a remotely decent comparison

[civic hatch]

In terms of the storytelling implication, that's how it comes off to me.

You may not see it that way but that perspective reminds me more of the people who always say that I'm just not living my life right and that's why I'm not tall or inherently strong and muscular. Like yeah, I could bulk up if I really asserted myself, but the idea that that's the end goal that everyone can achieve is weird cause it's a) not true, b) not necessary, and c) devalues the other ways people are useful. Sabine was a good character without the Force, I don't see her as better with it. I liked her as is, creative, driven, and loyal to her family and friends. Nothing about that needed a bonus skill of telekinesis for me to think she was a part of the Force just as much as everyone else.

[valid blaze]

well if thats how you feel, but its defiantly not my point or even remotely how i see it

[fervent skiff]

completely disagree on this front, I love sabine is a jedi. Personally i've been wanting a non-force sensitive to jedi arc for awhile, because it lines up perfectly with george lucas' view on the force

MY issue with it

was that sabine used it in a life or death situation, which was pretty generic

i thought it was gonna be a mental block thing

like luke the whole DO or DO NOT there is no try, sabine just kept TRYING. She couldnt actually believe she had done it, if that was the intention it didnt read that way

it could EASILY be read that sabine just "wasnt triyng hard enough"

[civic hatch]

That's definitely how it felt

[fervent skiff]

yeah like

(im catching up with the old convo rn)

[fervent skiff]

i wish it more overly tied into this

because I thought about this panel too

but i feel like its really never, implied very well in this show

even though im pretty sure thats what filoni was going for?

she just needed to be in a life or death situation to believe she COULD ig

but again, it kinda reads like she just wasnt trying hard enough

but you KNOW i love me a mandalorian jedi

the only mandalorians i wouldnt be okay with becoming jedi is Din

[valid blaze]

i mean, kanan literally says this in rebels. the only difference i'd make is that she firsts uses the force to push ezra to the star destroyer. that way they're both putting their faith in each other and the force. but i generally am fine with her using it to save her life

[fervent skiff]

yeah but

thats rebels

not ahsoka

it still needs to be alluded to in THIS show

if you dont make new content, even sequel content, be able to stand relatively on its own or at least remind the casual audience what came before, your series will die. Its happened a thousand times and why reboots are so common, the lore and everything becomes sooo piled up that new fans cannot be expected to catch up on everything just to watch the new exciting thing, and it dies

i really hope

that mandalorian frames this in a way where we dont NEED to see ahsoka to understand the mandalorian and thrawn as a threat, and that its all explained relatively well in that show because i know so many mando fans who didnt even watch this show

like, REWARD people who have seen what comes before, but dont punish those who have not

[marble whale]

Star Wars!!! 🗣️🗣️

[valid blaze]

okay, but like when an entire show premise is about completing a plot point from a different show. its kinda clear you should at least watch the original. its like watching return of the king first and complaining that the film doesn't explain what happened in the last 2 films

[civic hatch]

I guess I just don't like Lucas' view on the Force then. In general I don't like when storylines have this strict rule about training when it comes to something so nebulous and non tangible. Like it's magic energy, it's not that there shouldn't be rules to it, but when you say "you need a master or else" it just feels very boomer-ish in that mentality. "These kids today, thinking they can skip the work to achieve magic mind powers!" It's why I like that in ATLA each bending philosophy is different, sure they each generally require training, but it's always from a different perspective on what training means and how you achieve it. Kyoshi first learns to airbend just hugging Rangi and letting herself be happy, Korra first learns it when working as a team and having to surrender her agency. But also, Aang needed to have someone teach him head on to understand earthbending, cause it was a part of his life he didn't understand on his own.

[civic hatch]

That's not really a fair comparison, it's Star Wars not a self contained trilogy.

[valid blaze]

yeah but ahsoka also a sequel to rebels so like?

bruh

[civic hatch]

If you don't know what Rebels is then you wouldn't know that

You can't know something is a sequel if you don't know what the prequel is.

I think for the most part people should know by now sure.

[fervent skiff]

completely agree with @civic hatch here lmao

there were a ton of older fans who dont watch animated content (like my father) who read hier to the empire in 1992 and wanted to see live action thrawn

[plain iris]

How Lucas talks about it and how he handles it opens up inconsistencies

[fervent skiff]

but couldnt because you need to watch a Disney XD show :/

like dont get me wrong

[civic hatch]

That is also very true.

[fervent skiff]

there are some great Disney XD shows

i love cartoons

but with some people, its just not for them

[valid blaze]

i mean, when you look at promo stuff, see a shit tone of characters you don't know and the series is treating them all like they've existed for years and that you should know them. it should be kinda clear that there's a piece here your missing

[fervent skiff]

star wars always does that

with new characters

they all have implied history

a casual fan would probably have no clue

again this show just flat out should have been animated, 16 episodes like bad batch

could literally STILL tie into mando

[civic hatch]

I guess generally less people should've felt compelled to watch it

[valid blaze]

yeah but there's implied history, then there's literally just explicitly showing that these are old and known characters

[fervent skiff]

just have the live action thrawn debut in mando

[fervent skiff]

yup as per usual boils down to money ig

but its funny

cause the live action show costs soooo much more

but because of the barrier of entry, idk how many people are gonna watch this (again we still gotta wait for hopefully accurate viewing numbers)

[fervent skiff]

in the promotional material?

if you were a casual watching the trailer you would just be "oh cool who be these ppl"

and if you're just hoping straight into the show and you see characters implying they have pasts, you expect them to explain those pasts in this show

if you dont know about rebels at all

you WILL be confused

and then when you google it and see you have to watch a 4 season animated show that aired on Disney XD

that will turn alot of ppl off i'd imagine

it just feels alienating to the audience is all

[fervent skiff]

but anyway

my issues with how she used them in the end

we now have a mandalorian jedi so thats a win in my book

[civic hatch]

I like yours more so far tbh

[fervent skiff]

😭 Thank you for the compliment but she doesnt even have a name yet

god i cant wait for my commission to be done

so hyped

my pfp gonna change instantly

[crystal pebble]

Tarre Vizsla, Grogu? 😭

[fervent skiff]

grogu is more mando than jedi at this point, and tarre vizsla is so far dead its not even funny 😭

we never seen him in action before lmao

[viscid sage]

the tiny baylan is what gets me

[rose vapor]

Pocket Baylan

[viscid sage]

https://tenor.com/view/adventure-time-adventure-time-jake-gif-24200665

[barren wigeon]

He roll

[rose vapor]

Thrawn: I've been meaning to ask you this, but what's with the pocket on your shirt?
Shin: Oh, Baylan's in there. Sup, Baylan
Baylan: farts

[viscid sage]

Finn Hati

[rose vapor]

Bake the Skoll

[grand thunder]

https://youtu.be/cscrWoqMHOY?si=6zDV5js59dHv-32I

[latent crag]

"He's wearing the suit from Rebels!"

[marble whale]

The episode tonight is gonna be crazy!

Episode 9 here we go

[rose vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[fervent skiff]

lmfaoo

[solid pewter]

Ngl

Liked this show so much more than BOBF and Mando S3

Even if I think it’s kinda mid

[fervent skiff]

i can agree with BOBF

but i'd rather watch mando s3

i mean

i dont think any of the 3 shows are GOOD

but if you told me i HAD to watch 1 i'd probably pick mando s3?

maybe BOBF

idk

hard choice

bobf only cause its shorter

[tired vector]

Ahsoka could have been executed better but the characters have much more depth and there are some actually interesting ideas in it even if they weren't brought out to their fullest

Mando and Boba are entertaining at times but it's very surface level enjoyment

And honestly I don't even remember half the shit that happened in S3

[solid pewter]

Ahsoka is way more focused that Mando S3 and BOBF

That’s probably why I liked it

Mando S3 felt aimless till the end

When it comes to the “Mandoverse”, I feel like Ahsoka is almost great but everything falls just short of it

Mando S1 is still the only Madoverse thing I will say is genuinely great

[marble whale]

Despite aspects from each show that I liked I so very much miss the quality that was there when the Mandalorian first started

It felt like there was so much personality and charm to everything and a lot of time and effort was put into it

Everything now just feels so dull and corporate

Mandalorian Season 3 didn’t even feel remotely like the show it was in the first season

Just completely lost it’s unique charm

Like something Disney spit out of a machine versus something with actual substance

The quality control was so high for Disney Star Wars at one point and now it feels we hit MCU levels of emptiness every now and then

If it wasn’t for Filoni’s direct writing with Ahsoka it would have felt very bare bones

[marble whale]

I may not be the biggest Rebels fan but at least it had alot of heart, in Ashoka it feels so very missing at times. The lovable characters except maybe Ezra feel toned down in live action and not as energetic as their animated counterparts.

I get what Filoni is trying to do with his writing but it’s not translating near as well as a natural animated follow up would have been

[solid pewter]

My mom weirdly loved this show and wants to binge it with me again

Even if she hasn’t seen Rebels

[tepid shore]

Eh I can agree to some degree. I think a big issue for a lot of people it has been a long time since the end of rebels and we need to really be reintroduced to the characters and their relationships. Plus there has been off screen character evolution that doesn’t translate that well when you dont get a lot of time to explain it. The series should have been longer in my opinion and that is the biggest issue for me, the beginning was not enough set up.

[marble whale]

This isn’t to say Ahsoka is a bad show, because I don’t think it is but it’s a show that could have so easily been better if Filoni had followed through with his original plans

[viscid sage]

i think this is one of the better ones they’ve done so far

[tepid shore]

I think if anything it’s a good show for Ahsoka, I think she evolves well. I can say the same for Sabine but for Hera I think she got sidelined because they tried to make this Rebels season 5 and just didn’t have enough time to really do that

[viscid sage]

id put it below andor and mando s1 but above the rest of mando and bobf, maybe on par with kenobi if not slightly better

[solid pewter]

The first two episodes suck ass honestly, so slow for no reason when they could have set things up better

[tepid shore]

That’s the problem, it’s hard to make a continuation of Rebels when the show is essential just focused on two of the characters

[solid pewter]

Then the show speeds up

[tepid shore]

I actually like the slow pace of the first two episodes, I think it needed to take its time but the setup I can agree could have been better

But again, it’s hard to take your time when you only have 8 episodes

[viscid sage]

i didnt mind the pace it was more that it just didnt feel that interesting

[tepid shore]

I hate they keep doing this

[solid pewter]

Like, you could have had a faster pace at first, look at ANH and TFA, they have very fast paces and set things up really well

[viscid sage]

i think the third ep was the weakest. it was just a drawn out dogfight

[solid pewter]

Then episode 4 has literally my favourite moment in the entire show

[viscid sage]

……….ANH does not have a fast pace

[solid pewter]

It kinda does

[tepid shore]

I agree but the issue is that those were both starting a narrative and a simple one at that. This series had to continue and build up several years of story but also reintroduce characters we haven’t seen in what six or so years,

[viscid sage]

it throws you into things very quickly but the movie itself after the beginning is pretty measured out

[solid pewter]

I think to me as someone who watched Rebels I dislike how they established things off screen too

As you mentioned

Why are Ahsoka and Sabine so close

[viscid sage]

the ahsoka-sabine relationship was so weird to me

[solid pewter]

They barely fucking spoke to each other in Rebels

[marble whale]

I know Zeb didn’t technically need to be there but his absence from the Rebels Crew was definitely felt

[viscid sage]

why not have them effectively begin their relationship in this show

[tepid shore]

The problem is they started this show on the continuation of finding Ezra but we haven’t seen these characters in years and they have all gone their own ways and have tension between them, which is great for the characters. It’s good to see tension between them but when it happens off screen and has to be explained when you only have 8 episodes to explain and resolve it, it proves to be a challenge and doesn’t translate well

[solid pewter]

I hope S2 changes my mind on all this

Or whatever is next for this run of shows

[viscid sage]

its so funny to me that something like bad batch gets 16 eps and half of it has no bearing on the plot whatsoever and then you get a rebels continuation which has to cram it all into 8. which i guess runtime wise is similar but still

[solid pewter]

Mando S4 is the only thing we know is coming next

[tepid shore]

I really don’t think there is gonna be a season 2 tbh. I think we got the next season of mando and then the movie. Maybe I’m wrong but I think that’s it. They can’t do much more because if they do wtf they gonna do in the movie?

[viscid sage]

when is the movie coming

[solid pewter]

2025

[marble whale]

See my fear is the movie is also going to be really crammed

[viscid sage]

at this point it feels like the movie is basically just gonna be a continuation of this show and also mando is there

[tepid shore]

I think this show set up his movie really well with the return of thrawn. I wish they wouldn’t do another season of mando, I think season 3 was a good conclusion to that story but I know they have to explain how he gets tangled up in all this

[viscid sage]

i think season 3 should have been good

[marble whale]

“Grogu what is this… some kind of Mandoverse”

[tepid shore]

Also, this show really made me want to see Luke meet the force ghost of Anakin. I want to see that reunion

So fucking bad

Do we think Luke will be involved at all in the film?

[viscid sage]

if we were gonna see luke and anakin interact i wish it wouldve been in the sequels briefly, at this point it kinda feels disconnected if cgi luke is the one talking

[marble whale]

It’s hard for me to get excited for this film when the pieces that are supposed to come together feel so uneven at the moment

[viscid sage]

oh for sure

[marble whale]

But I understand it none the less

Generally anything with Thrawn is exciting

[tepid shore]

The only thing that feels really uneven for me is boba Fett. Like how is that gonna tie in? We already kinda see how Mando is going to get involved because we know he met Ashoka and the two are on good terms but how is boba gonna get involved?

[viscid sage]

oh fuck i forgot ab that

uh

the fight happens in mos espa

thrawn gets eaten by a rancor

[tepid shore]

Man I really wish season 1 of boba wasn’t hated that much, I’d love a second season

[marble whale]

Din: We need someone who knows how to ride a bantha…

cut to boba

[tepid shore]

I really like the character evolution of boba

[viscid sage]

i cant even lie i wish boba kept going down a more morally grey route

i know “dark and gritty” is very 2014 of me to ask for but a show where boba becomes a ruthless warlord and simultaneously highlights his flaws and humanity as a person, how his past shaped him and where he is now, would have been really cool

[tepid shore]

Idk I think it’s nice seeing him realize he was on the wrong side of history and being bossed by people who couldn’t give a damn about him or his friends. I loved seeing him finally realizing he didn’t want to be like his father

[marble whale]

I could get into a whole new discussion with that, but a short version is that I think there is actually character room for Boba there are two episodes in the show that are actually really good when they focused just on Boba Fett that could definitely be expanded upon if they focus primarily on Fett and not on the 22 other established StarWars characters.

[tepid shore]

I think again it was a jerky transition because we haven’t seen the character in 40 years and also because he wasn’t really a character to begin with

I would have like to had more building up before the ultimate conclusion of who he chose to become

Again why there should have been more than 1 season

[marble whale]

They could do a really good Boba story if they just gave Boba a chance to actually shine in the spotlight himself

Adding Luke and Grogu in was a very poor choice

[tepid shore]

Yeah, it was a bad idea to reintroduce boba in the middle of this tied in narrative

He is the one character I was happy to see return but did not fit in

[marble whale]

See it could have definitely been expanded upon in the Mandalorian there was definitely a time and a place

And it wasn’t during Boba Fett’s show

[tepid shore]

It sucks because the grogu,luke, and mando stuff is so fucking good. Like no shit the reintroduction of mando episode is probably my favorite episode of mando, and it’s not even in his own show

[marble whale]

And has you mentioned the seasons are already short enough as it is

[tepid shore]

Yeah it sucks they are so short. Like I wish they took more time to make a longer season then just throwing shit out there

Like don’t get me wrong, I love more Star Wars stuff but I’d rather it have time to breath

[marble whale]

We are trying to sell Boba Fett’s story and his character in this show we do not need to throw in an essential Din Djarin story line in the middle of an 8 episode show when it could be so easily fleshed out and expanded upon in his own show

[marble whale]

For sure

I hope they do give the show a second season but just more fleshed out

Temuera Morrison is also a bloody good actor for them just to waste like that

Let the man steal the spotlight and finally get his fair due

[solid pewter]

Star Wars definitely needs to be less frequent

I am happy there are shows that have an end, or an end in sight

Andor will finish with S2

Rebels and CW have very satisfying endings

[viscid sage]

they showed like a brief flashback of him watching his dad leave but i wish they went into it more

[solid pewter]

Let shows fucking end please

[marble whale]

The comment about Mandalorian potentially going on for a very long time made me want to die

It does not need to be that kind of show

[viscid sage]

its like.. why does mando need to go on for long?

it feels aimless at a point

[solid pewter]

The Mandalorian may he highly serialised but please Lucasfilm let it end one day

And hopefully sooner rather than later

[marble whale]

Five more seasons where Pedro Pascal is just voicing over the character from some remote location while Jon Farevau is never actually on set

[solid pewter]

At that point AI is gonna write it

[grand thunder]

I kinda hope all the Mandoverse stuff just ends with the movie

[solid pewter]

It should

[grand thunder]

Really make it feel like the conclusion

[solid pewter]

At that point you should be set for the ST plot-wise

There should be nothing after the movie except for the ST

[tepid shore]

And the thing is, I don’t think the writing of these shows is bad or anything. They just need more time to flesh it out before moving into the next project

[solid pewter]

They are spreadrunning something the MCU took a decade to build up to

[marble whale]

When I heard that Pedro Pascal wasn’t even behind the helmet at all during season 3 that really just irked me because it felt like a role that he was so committed to in the first season

[grand thunder]

Man it still annoys me how shittily Mando season 3 wrapped up not just plotlines from that season but also stuff they’ve been setting up since season 1

[tepid shore]

Man don’t get me start on the sequels. I just sat here driving home from the gym and thought to myself, man if only like when Snoke dies in TLJ did that cause Palpatine’s transmission to go out. Like that could have just fixed so many issues with the next film, but that didn’t happen sigh

[wary needle]

I liked Mando season 3 more than Ahsoka

[tepid shore]

I think they are tied for me

[solid pewter]

TLJ my poor dismembered child

[grand thunder]

Like now when I rewatch season 1, there’s just a little bit of that annoyance of how these set up plotlines resolve

[tepid shore]

TLJ is so hard for me, I love it but also like man why were you born

[wary needle]

Palpatine returning is just something I was never gonna get behind

[viscid sage]

im excited for the rey movie in that it’ll finally be a new fucking era of star wars and not self referential fuckshit

[wary needle]

Never liked Dark Empire

TROS is better than Dark Empire but it’s really not hard to be better

[viscid sage]

like i appreciate the sequel tie-ins and nods in mando and ahsoka etc but like, i want to move past all of it

[marble whale]

I can already see you dying when Rey’s theme starts playing again

[wary needle]

Watch them beat the “they fly now” like to death

[viscid sage]

just see what happens after

and i hope the conflict dynamic is different

[grand thunder]

I liked the idea of Palpatine returning and think it was executed well but if they’re going more into how he came back, idk if that’s necessarily gonna make people go “Oh I like that part of TROS now ”

[viscid sage]

not just big faction vs other faction

[marble whale]

I hope they get John Boyega in aswell because I would love for some proper conclusion to Finn’s character

[wary needle]

I’ll bet a mortgage the villains in the Rey movie will have stormtroopers yet again

[viscid sage]

oh dont get me started

[solid pewter]

It’s a freak monster creation but I love it

[viscid sage]

IF john boyega ever returned, they better give him the most grand fucking role

[grand thunder]

One misfire I can’t look past, they royally fucked up Finn

[viscid sage]

he better have the most fire jedi drip, the most satisfying arc

[wary needle]

“Somehow, Boyega returned”

[viscid sage]

and of course give poe a smooch

[marble whale]

They did them so dirty bruh

[grand thunder]

Even as a TROS defender, why didn’t they resolve what Finn was gonna tell Rey in that movie

[marble whale]

And for what

[solid pewter]

I need Jedi Finn is the post TROS movie hapoens

[marble whale]

The core trio deserved more respect

[wary needle]

Rose was done dirty

[marble whale]

And time together

[wary needle]

Core quartet

[viscid sage]

i wonder if rose will have a role

[tepid shore]

Man I just took a huge steamy shit while trying to think about how to make TROS a better film. It’s like poetry

[grand thunder]

Even Poe, he never really evolved much past pilot guy

[crystal pebble]

Cause not even JJ knew himself 💀

[solid pewter]

The three main characters of the ST are insanely strong and they carry the trilogy for me

[wary needle]

Poe is a different character each movie

[marble whale]

Good think we know he was a former drug dealer though

[viscid sage]

earlier today i was thinking about getting back onto my tros rewrite

….not soon, but sometime

[crystal pebble]

Poe got done real dirty in TROS 😭

[wary needle]

TFA, Poe seems like a do-gooder pilot. TLJ, he breaks the rules. TROS all of a sudden people consider him shady and he was a spice runner.

[viscid sage]

i hate zorii bliss i hate zorii bliss

[solid pewter]

Poe was just there to fly the ships basically

[wary needle]

Poe is literally a “depending on the writer” type of character

[viscid sage]

he gets like one scene where he’s struggling with being a leader and his arc is wrapped up after a convo w lando

[tepid shore]

Wait guys… I think my shit is trying to speak

THE DEAD SPEAK

[marble whale]

I was relived to hear about Rey’s story continuation because I believe they could do better when it comes to resolving the story of these characters and there is still so much potential with them that wasn’t fully explored

[crystal pebble]

Poe now has a convoluted af backstory thanks to TROS

[viscid sage]

i still cant believe how angry people were about rey being a nobody

[marble whale]

The one positive I will say about Rise is that I did like what they did with Ben Solo

[grand thunder]

I was fairly satisfied with Rey’s journey through the sequels but Poe and Finn could have gotten so much better

[marble whale]

The scene with Ben and Han is perfect

[viscid sage]

i really just pretty much entirely agree with everything john boyega had to say on the matter lmao

[viscid sage]

mourning the scene between him and chewie that was left on the cutting room floor but it was a pretty alright redemption

[marble whale]

But surely there is a better ending for the core trio of characters somewhere

[grand thunder]

It’s called DOTF

[crystal pebble]

I hated Rose at the time of release, so I was glad she wasn't in TROS much
But like over the years, while I still don't like her, she should've actually been in the main cast

[marble whale]

To find out what Finn was going to say to Rey you’ll have to play the next season of Fortnite I am afraid

[viscid sage]

its crazy how fleshing out a character can make them better instead of just giving up and giving them like 2 min of screentime

actually 2 min is prob a generous estimate for rose

[grand thunder]

Hey this character was a main in the last movie and people were massive dicks to the actress irl so what shall we do? “Give her less screen time!”

[marble whale]

Bruh that was actually horrendous

[viscid sage]

never listen to fans

if fans want something do the opposite

[grand thunder]

That I can also not defend about TROS, awful

[marble whale]

And the scene between Finn and Rose was so disrespectful to literally everything set up in the previous film

[viscid sage]

its like finn was talking to someone half his age. the air about the interaction was so awkward and it felt like she was almost belittled

belittled in terms of the script overall not necessarily like by finn

[crystal pebble]

The actress getting excited for the Rose meets Rey scene, and it was cut, like most of her scenes 💀

[viscid sage]

do rey and rose even interact

[marble whale]

But hey space horses!

[grand thunder]

Those are cool actually

[viscid sage]

they couldve had such a nice little dynamic

[marble whale]

Poe Dameron scarf look was cool

I aspire to have Poe Dameron scarf look

[grand thunder]

Nah but fr I find it hilarious that people will accept eworks, basically teddy bears but draw the line at space horses lmao

[solid pewter]

For the life of me I don’t think Rose and Rey have a single line of dialogue together

[marble whale]

I don’t think there was anything wrong with it I just think the absurdity of space horses going up the imperial fleet is hilarious to me

[crystal pebble]

Terrio was like most of her scenes were cut because she was paired with Leia and the Leia footage didn't hold up
It's like why did you even give her scenes so reliant on VFX that may or may not have worked then?

[grand thunder]

Hilariously awesome 😎

[marble whale]

Oh cool a bunch of space ships that we know are here to save the day in a cluttered grey format

[solid pewter]

The formation of those ships hurts my head

Like why tf are y’all so close

[crystal pebble]

Like 5/6 of those ships aren't even fighters, they're just hundreds of repeated cargo transports 💀

[solid pewter]

There’s a U wing in there

[crystal pebble]

And then actual fighters like the N1 get two seconds screentime

Yeah, a few wings and such

[solid pewter]

There are so many Nebulon B frigates too

[crystal pebble]

Kaz's ship too

The two Resistance fans probably lost their mind

[solid pewter]

I keep forgetting Resistance is a real show

[crystal pebble]

Same

[grand thunder]

Most people do

[marble whale]

I get what they are going for but the scene feels so soulless despite Billy Dee’s best intentions lol

[grand thunder]

I don’t agree with the point but on the topic of Billy Dee, he felt underutilized in the film

I was so excited to see him and while it was good to get anything, was let down that he had a fairly small presence

That’s one reason I’m hoping the Lando movie involves him

[marble whale]

I forgot that it was a movie now

[grand thunder]

Same hence the edit lol

[marble whale]

https://youtu.be/B3tP9gaUmnQ?si=vYMyoU5L3tM-aEoa

I did kind of like this scene despite the obvious nostalgia bait lol

How strange is it that Kanan’s voice is in a mainline StarWars movie

This was before Freddie Prince Jr decided he couldn’t come back because Kanan apparently doesn’t have sex

[viscid sage]

i mean fighting with any means necessary makes sense to me

[viscid sage]

whos jacen’s father then 🤔

[marble whale]

I don’t know

That was his words

[viscid sage]

do u think if thrawn had a kid it would have blue hair, if we’re going off of jacen logic

[marble whale]

I think it’s hilarious none the less

[grand thunder]

You know funnily enough our sidetracking has actually gotten us trailing back to Ahsoka now. So you know how people have been theorizing how maybe Ahsoka might be the new daughter? By that logic she’d probably be living on Mortis so what if she isn’t dead but is simply speaking from Mortis in this scene if we’re taking Filoni’s comment of “Just cause you hear her voice doesn’t mean she’s dead” seriously

[marble whale]

The Chosen One prophecy is so unbelievably stupid when you think about the fact that Rey literally has to “bring back the balance” 30 years later lol

[grand thunder]

That’s something Filoni would do I feel like lol

[marble whale]

I never heard of that theory

That is interesting

Sounds like a Filoni idea indeed

[viscid sage]

i mean the thing is ahsoka has spoken to ppl thru the force/world between worlds before, even when she was just alive normally and in a jedi temple on lothal. if for some reason filoni is keeping her alive by then i always assumed that was how

i just cant imagine what she would be doing during the sequels that would be more important than trying to help the resistance. but i guess the galaxy is a big place

[marble whale]

The one thing about Gandalf is that he could never really die

[viscid sage]

we dont even know what she’s doing during the ot i guess lol

[viscid sage]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-luke-skywalker-no-ones-ever-really-gone-mark-hamill-the-last-jedi-gif-26010275

[marble whale]

Sometimes I forget Ahsoka was at one point a bouncing off the walls Padawan

[viscid sage]

they should’ve cgi’d a bouncing rosario dawson into the fights in this show

wouldve been awesome i think

[marble whale]

Thrawn shows up:
Ahsoka:

https://tenor.com/view/excited-kitten-kitty-hi-hii-hey-gif-21229532

[viscid sage]

its actually just a rosario dawson png being dragged up and down really quick

they screen recorded photoshop

[fervent skiff]

just hire a stunt double 😭