Ahsoka

[grand thunder]

See the main problem for me lies of how a literal star wars movie, these big cultural events is relying on all this shit to understand it. That's where I have a problem with it, I think the movies at the very least should always be casual friendly

[torpid stag]

i know many star wars fans in general that say that to everything that comes out though

[fervent skiff]

tidy

CASUAL

star wars fan

[torpid stag]

i dont like season 3 either

[fervent skiff]

like my father who doesnt even touch the internet when it comes to star wars

[torpid stag]

i moved on

[fervent skiff]

and hes not interested in star wars anymore

man wont even watch andor

[torpid stag]

so did the casual viewers

[fervent skiff]

he doesnt care

they lost the plot

[torpid stag]

okay but like

people are still en masse watching star wars

good or bad

[fervent skiff]

:/

maybe at first

[torpid stag]

and to be honest as far as plot goes Ahsoka doesn't even really require any knowledge of mando or BOBF. It almost exclusively plays off of plot threads from the animated shows

[torpid stag]

this is not as big of a talking point as you think

this is like

every show ever made

declining viewership literally always gonna happen

[valid blaze]

What's this based on though. Because I'm pretty sure Disney has only ever commented on viewership numbers with ahsoka

[fervent skiff]

wait so which is it

[valid blaze]

The only numbers that I know are available is from specific TV companies

[fervent skiff]

do they not report numbers or did season 3 get the highest viewership

[valid blaze]

I only said they don't report the numbers?
They still vaguely jester to how successful the shows

[torpid stag]

the goal of a studio is to maintain a viewership within expected parameters week by week. It is never realistic to expect viewership to go up beyond the first episode. It can happen but its very rare.

[fervent skiff]

I supposed but the again, the more you pile on shows that tie into eachother, the more you gotta catch up which means the less people will bother to do so

again like i've been saying this is an issue that will compound

its just starting to crack now

[torpid stag]

even though they stated there's a specific ending point they've already begun producing

which you yourself acknowledged

[fervent skiff]

because theres a live action show that is needed for a movie years down the line that ties into at least 4 other live action shows, and you have to watch 11 seasons of animated shows to understand season 1 of this show

which means by the time the film comes out

there will be so much to catch up on in order to understand it

no one will bother

[torpid stag]

we havent actually had a conversation about Ahsoka itself this whole debate. it's just been about the nature of hypothetical concerns about the state of the franchise.

[valid blaze]

Okay, but like I said. It doesn't really seem like ahsoka gonna be mandatory viewing? Like it will probably help. But the groundwork for thrawn being the big bad has already been placed with general audiences

[fervent skiff]

how is this not about ahsoka

AGAIN

[torpid stag]

cause you've barely spoken about the show itself.

[fervent skiff]

I think it is a major issue that AHSOKA needs to have 11 seasons of animation to understand it

[torpid stag]

you're just talking about how it requires you to watch other shows

[fervent skiff]

im sorry but a show that doesnt stand on its own just

isnt as good 😭

[torpid stag]

to you

[fervent skiff]

do you want me to go into detail

about everything i specifically dislike about the show

[torpid stag]

think you already did yesterday

[valid blaze]

Honestly this just seems like a skill issue

[fervent skiff]

because i've been avoiding doing that cause you guys seem to actually like whats going on like, on-screen

[torpid stag]

im not trying to have my mind changed. I was just here to try and make sense of your complaints

sadly mission failed

lol

but we're cool

<3

[fervent skiff]

im talking about THIS NOW because i was hoping even the people who like the show can agree this could be a major issue for star wars as a whole?

<3

[solid pewter]

Bro if my mom can follow this show without watching anything animated

[fervent skiff]

can she?

does she actually understand the plot lmfao

[solid pewter]

She literally watches Ahsoka with me and is loving it

[fervent skiff]

cause i know people watching this who actually saw rebels and they dont know whats going on

i mean

good for your mom damn

(i mean you can also enjoy something without understanding the plot but still)

[torpid stag]

to a point i understand your perspective on the notion that overcomplicating a saga with required watching for this and that show can be problematic longterm yes. However I'm of the mind that when a show is so blatantly telling you that its a part of a grander saga, it's also telling fans that this is a show for them. the ones that have been around this long. And I feel those fans are probably great enough in number for the studio to justify it's production.

otherwise it wouldn't exist

companies speak in money

[fervent skiff]

I mean fair but

as one of those fans

who watched TCW and Rebels

[valid blaze]

It honestly seems incredibly weird to be complaining about the show on the groundwork of a hypothetical that general audiences are confused, when you fundamentally can't even prove or disprove it on large

[fervent skiff]

I think this is a bad idea

lmfao

[torpid stag]

well thats unfortunate

[solid pewter]

Honestly I just see it as a skill issue over the show's problem at that point

[amber star]

I don't know if there's a way to scrub through D+ frame by frame? But I'm not sure if I'm seeing any of those red LED lights on the back of the gen 1 clone helmets

[fervent skiff]

like i just dont see how "I wish the ahsoka show stood on its own as its own show" as an invalid complaint 😭

[valid blaze]

I mean, it was never really set up as a standalone show, so why should the fact it doesn't stand on its own matter?
This was always going to be the search for ezra and thrawn

[fervent skiff]

again it is kinda being marketed that way tho, like as its own thing

again if this was just for the rebels fans

why'd they spend 2 episodes catching people up :/

if this was only supposed to be for people who already know whats happening

[valid blaze]

Well that's the marketing. Marketing will always try and make something appealing to as many people as it can

[fervent skiff]

first 2 episodes

[wary needle]

Cheese and fuckin’ rice

I hate George for creating all this now

[fervent skiff]

lmfaoo

[valid blaze]

I actually think the first 2 episode barely caught you up on the events of rebels. So I don't think that's a good argument

[torpid stag]

wait so which is it lmao

[valid blaze]

They did the bare minimum of recap

[torpid stag]

does it stand on its own or not

😂

[fervent skiff]

it was CLEARLY trying tho??? it didnt WORK but

[fervent skiff]

NO OMG

okay so

[torpid stag]

but they caught people up right

[fervent skiff]

the show is clearly TRYING to stand on its own because they TRIED to catch people up on rebels

only in episode 5 for them to all have shit

that isnt established in this show

does that make sense???

[torpid stag]

not remotely

[fervent skiff]

so they are trying to get people who havent seen rebels to understand whats happening, only for the plot to be incomprehensable to them anyway

[torpid stag]

i feel like showing ahsoka quite literally as a child soldier to showcase her trauma of being a child soldier is pretty on the nose as far as getting that theme across.

[fervent skiff]

oh

my god

[torpid stag]

I just cannot see your point im sorry

lol

[solid pewter]

Yeah me neither, the plot is pretty comprehensive

Even for my mom who barely keeps up with these shows and hasn't watched CW nor Rebels

[torpid stag]

my gf's mom apparently watched one episode of ahsoka and then went back and watched all of the ahsoka episodes in TCW and all of rebels before continuing lmfao

[solid pewter]

I haven't seen Rebels in a while actually and barely remember shit about it

[torpid stag]

[wary needle]

Nothing is canon until HelloGreedo our god watches it

[fervent skiff]

show is marketed twords wider audience
show is said to be part of the mandalorian timeline
show spends 2 first episodes recapping rebels (poorly)
= show is clearly trying to get casual viewers to watch so its not just for old fans

show later than has plot point that entirely rely on said prevoius shows without doing any setup
= show is not understandable anyway to casual viewers

do you guys

not see how this is a bad thing

[torpid stag]

well i dont agree with most of those points

so no

https://twitter.com/Lunwi88/status/1701849366850568468
also very good reason why it works better as live action tbh

Lunwi (@Lunwi88)

While I’m still a big believer that the Ahsoka show should have been animated, I think due to the tonal direction & art style of the Clone Wars show, it doesn’t hit home the fact that Ahsoka was 100% a child soldier the way seeing it in live action does

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[fervent skiff]

OH MY GOD

THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT!!

[solid pewter]

People forget she was 16 in CW

[fervent skiff]

"i can take it more seriously since its live action" is fucking basically what that tweet said

proved my point

[torpid stag]

dude they're on your side. they start the tweet saying it should have been animated.

[torpid stag]

people can have nuanced opinions about things

[fervent skiff]

followed by "seeing it in live action hits harder" :////////

[wary needle]

In Star Wars? Nah

[fervent skiff]

people who like the live action lion king usually also like the original animated one too

just sayin'

[wary needle]

There is no live action Lion King lol

[fervent skiff]

i've been vindicated, that tweet just showed me that im right tbh

[wary needle]

It’s photorealism

[fervent skiff]

lmaoo

[valid blaze]

i would also like to restate my theory that disney lost faith in specially non clone wars animated projects after resistance and rebels. and wouldn't greenlight a animated rebels sequel, but would a live action ahsoka show. so this is how were getting the story, because it was the only way to do it

[torpid stag]

and i agree. seeing an actual child being a soldier in real life hits harder than an animated lighthearted version of the events.

[torpid stag]

dont be that guy

you're better than that

[wary needle]

Also, guys

It’s a TV show

[torpid stag]

this conversation got carried away about an hour ago

[grand thunder]

I still find that answer to be a little unconvincing, how did bad batch get greenlit then, not like those were fan favourite characters?

[fervent skiff]

skill issue

thats what you guys were saying before right?

[torpid stag]

i aint say that

[grand thunder]

Or hell how did something like Visions get greenlit? That was such a gamble

[fervent skiff]

skill issue? seems like a skill issue that people cant take animation serioulsy

again, you just saying "it does hit harder in live action" double proves my point

this is invalidating animation just like live action remakes

[solid pewter]

This is such a Twitter thing where just because you prefer X you must dislike Y

[torpid stag]

if i was gonna play that game I'd bounce back with it being a skill issue being unable to visualize existing characters being portrayed by other actors.

[solid pewter]

No one said they don't take animation seriously

[torpid stag]

but we're not gonna do that right

[valid blaze]

Well, bad batch is a literal sequel to clone wars.

[grand thunder]

Based around kind of obscure characters

[fervent skiff]

i just feel like im going insane when i see 30 on people be like "WE NEED LIVE ACTION CLONE WARS NOW!!!" like.. need guys? really?

just

fucking watch clone wars

if you want clone wars

would it kill you to watch a fucking cartoon

[valid blaze]

Nobody saying that though?

[fervent skiff]

not you guys i know you guys like clone wars

[torpid stag]

im not invalidating animation by stating the tonal impact of a scene has a different effect when it's done in live action.
The same way I'm not invalidating live action when I say animation offers many storytelling techniques not available to live action productions.
It's nuance chief.

[fervent skiff]

refer to the tweet spam from before

ALOT

of people are saying it

[torpid stag]

Lion King remake fundamentally misunderstands the appeal of Lion King. Ahsoka I dont feel at all misunderstands the appeal of the animated shows.

[fervent skiff]

I dont see how a 5 minute live action scene of explotions and one dead guy has more of a total impact than 7 season worth of actually seeing the horrors of war

[torpid stag]

literally who tf said that

bruh

[fervent skiff]

????

what

[torpid stag]

okay slow down. Read what I said

[valid blaze]

It wasn't about tonal impact on large. But the fact the clone wars kinda didn't fully get across how young ahsoka was and how she was a literal child solider?

[tired vector]

I think the inclusion of the Rebel's characters creates more of an issue for casual fans rather than Ahsoka's past since key plot points like Sabine turning herself in rely on an emotional connection to Ezra which if you haven't seen Rebels you have no idea who tf he is or why he's important. If they watch the Ahsoka show viewers know she was Anakin's padawan cause they're told it, and can infer that she fought in the Clone Wars, and that Anakin's fall to the dark side would be something she would need to get over. All the shit with Rex and the Siege of Mandalore doesn't matter, casual people will just see it as any random battle. Frankly, if they didn't focus on her relationship with Anakin at all I think it would have been more jarring to new fans as if they didn't see Rebels they wouldn't know how she dealt with finding out her master was evil and the trauma that it would have caused her

[fervent skiff]

how does the tone of being a child soldier have a different effect in live action than animation? I dont see your point at all. The exact feeling of the horros of being a child soldier have been done before and better in animation. So it "hitting harder" as you say is literally you saying that its more impactful than 7 season worth of storytelling

its invalidating to the clone wars

[torpid stag]

The flashback scenes in ahsoka do not undercut the emotional impact of the best clone wars episodes.
However I see the benefit to showcasing the trauma of a child soldier when it's portrayed by an actual real life child over an animated character voiced by an adult woman.

[fervent skiff]

im sorry it just is

[torpid stag]

it isn't

[fervent skiff]

well i disagree

[fervent skiff]

and i actually need to go before we get too deep into this again

[torpid stag]

you disagree with my opinion?

[fervent skiff]

but head my words

this will cause issues in the future

and this is contributing to the "live action >> animation" mentality

[torpid stag]

see this is why i dont talk about star wars with people much anymore.

[fervent skiff]

to say otherwise is madness in my eyes

[torpid stag]

we've had 5 seasons of animated shows in the last couple years alone.

[solid pewter]

The fact that there is an entire show with the sole gimick of it being animated by different studios

[fervent skiff]

just cause animation is still being made doesnt make my point invalid??

[torpid stag]

if disney really wanted to axe animation i think they'd make it more obvious than just..having animated characters in live action

[fervent skiff]

WELL disney is still making new animated movies so its okay they are making live action remakes

[torpid stag]

i mean.. yeah?

[fervent skiff]

lmfaoo i never said they are axing animation

what

[torpid stag]

i dont have to watch the remakes

i can ignore them

they're shit

as long as they're making actual animated content too idgaf

[fervent skiff]

but do you disagree they are harmful to the industry??

[torpid stag]

eh

[fervent skiff]

they're making a live action moana

you see no issue with that?

[torpid stag]

harmful to the integrity of moviemaking maybe

harmful to industry?

the opposite

lol

they make money

[fervent skiff]

making money = industry good

sound logic

[torpid stag]

yes

[fervent skiff]

i actually cant with this anymore

[torpid stag]

if you're in industry your profit is the entire point

[solid pewter]

It still won't stop animation from being an important medium

[wary needle]

The reason I don’t think Ahsoka as live action is as bad is that it’s not a remake of existing episodes

[solid pewter]

Look at Puss in Boots 2, people ate that shit up

Arcane, Bad Guys

Fucking Spiderverse

[wary needle]

Like when a friend said they wanted a live action TCW movie or miniseries I thought “ew”

[torpid stag]

yeah idk why i was being lumped in with those people earlier

just cause i like ahsoka

[wary needle]

New episodes, new era pls

[fervent skiff]

Tidy

i was never lumping you in

with those people

what im saying

is that this episode

[torpid stag]

was based af

[fervent skiff]

makes that mentality of "animation<live action" just that much stronger

[torpid stag]

[solid pewter]

I fail to see that

[valid blaze]

I mean, most Disney remakes aside from the lion King also haven't really done that well. The only money they make is from parents who see new Disney movie and take their kids, that's gonna happen no matter what and is just a issue with general audiences not really caring about quality or business practices

[solid pewter]

It's a difference in tone

[fervent skiff]

casual veiwers creaming themselves over live action TCW and demanding more seems to prove it to me

[torpid stag]

that sounds like an insecurity on your part rather than it being an actual rule anybody really believes in. There are definitely those annoying fuckers who are like that that assume a product is more valuable if it's live action I for sure agree. But i dont at all think they're the majority.

[fervent skiff]

its by far the majority lmfao

tidy you are an artist you see this shit all the time

[torpid stag]

if that were the case we wouldnt have SWVisions or BadBatch or TOTJ.

[fervent skiff]

people are contantly reinforcing that "animation is for kids"

[wary needle]

I also think it’s mainly a generational thing as far as the live action > animation thing is concerned

[valid blaze]

Okay, but you're focusing on a small amount of fans and acting like its a normal reaction from the community. Most people probably just saw it and were like "that was cool to see" and moved on

[grand thunder]

By what metric? Twitter reactions

[fervent skiff]

TOTJ being just more ahsoka content for the same fans of TCW

bad batch also same thing

[torpid stag]

maybe back in like 2014 sure. To see it nowadays people just laugh those people off.

i think that idea is becoming very outdated very quickly

[fervent skiff]

visions is the only animated show doing anything unique and its not canon so casual fans dont care

[torpid stag]

just look at the spiderverse movies

puss in boots 2

there's a lot of good shit coming out that adults are enjoying

[wary needle]

Super Mario Bros

[torpid stag]

yea

[fervent skiff]

i know groups of people that refuse to watch them cause they're kids movies

[fervent skiff]

not the film to make your point 💀

[wary needle]

Y not

[grand thunder]

It cracked a billion my guy lmao

[torpid stag]

mario bros did exceptionally well

i havent even seen it lmao

[fervent skiff]

that film couldnt be more FOR KIDS if it tried

[solid pewter]

And yet

[fervent skiff]

yeah it did well

[wary needle]

Bruh

[solid pewter]

It was watched by literally everyone

[wary needle]

It touched on economic struggles

[fervent skiff]

but everyone still sees it as a kida movie

lmfao

[wary needle]

Plumbing business

[torpid stag]

and?

[valid blaze]

Okay, so? Why are you caring so much about what other people think of something

[wary needle]

Alliances between nations

[torpid stag]

adults still watched it

[wary needle]

HOW IS THAT NOT FOR AFULTS

[valid blaze]

They are also far from the norm

[fervent skiff]

i just kinda find it funny how whenever im like "ANIMATION ISNT JUST FOR KIDS!!" 90% of the time people are like "YEAH LIKE THIS KIDS MOVIE!!"

😭

[torpid stag]

if we're fighting the idea that animation is only for kids then we should imo also encourage the idea that adults can sit and enjoy children's content without feeling they're committing a taboo act.

[fervent skiff]

not saying kids movies cant be GOOD movies, they can

but like

[grand thunder]

There's always gonna be people like that but they don't make up the majority by a long shot

[wary needle]

George Lucas should’ve just made the original Star Wars animated instead smh

[fervent skiff]

animation is cinema points are not helped whenever someones evidence for it are all kids films

like

I ADORED puss and boots 2

i've seen it like 10 times

[torpid stag]

then maybe we should just kill the term "kids films"

[fervent skiff]

but if i was trying to prove to someone that animation is for everyone i wouldnt use that film to fucking prove it

[valid blaze]

Okay nah, puss and boots is a all ages movie with a main demographic for kids

[torpid stag]

^

[fervent skiff]

oh my god

do you guys read what i say

[fervent skiff]

^^^^^^^

[torpid stag]

i was just gonna say like puss in boots is far from a strictly kid's film

[fervent skiff]

Just cause something can and should be enjoyed by anyone and everyone doesnt mean its not still a kids like film

[wary needle]

Yeah it hits hard with its existential themes

[torpid stag]

also that shot of the blood running down his face? like

😂

i know it wasn't blood

but still

[grand thunder]

Ok but then how do you classify a non-kids like animated film?

[fervent skiff]

how it feels sometimes

like

again

LOVED

LOVED

LOVED

Puss in boots

so good

amazingly deep film

[torpid stag]

so then why is it for kids

[fervent skiff]

but to deny that it is primarily, a kids movie, is madness

[torpid stag]

why isn't it just a movie that can be enjoyed by all ages

[fervent skiff]

KIDS MOVIES CAN BE ENJOYED BY ALL AGES

DOESNT MEAN ITS NOT A KIDS MOVIE

MY GOD

[torpid stag]

you're the one pinning the term "kids film" onto it. Instead of it just being a movie made for all ages.

[wary needle]

Screw this noise. I’m fucking off to The Dark Crystal for a bit

[torpid stag]

why cant it just be an all-ages film

[fervent skiff]

thats literally what i find the issue to be

I WISH it was labeled that way

my point is

[torpid stag]

but you're contributing to it???

[fervent skiff]

it is labeled a kids film

[torpid stag]

where

[fervent skiff]

and people use it to be like "NOT ALL FILMS ARE FOR KIDS!!", to an outside

tidy

imagine for a sec

you are a 55 year old guy who thinks animations is for kids

[torpid stag]

wow im a loser

[fervent skiff]

yes in this scenario

is someone saying "watch puss and boots to see that animation isnt just for kids" and you go and its in the kids section of the streaming service

that isnt going to help your arguement

now im not saying

ITS RIGHT

that its a kids movie

what im saying is that using puss and boots isnt gonna convince many people

unless they've actually seen it

but getting them to watch in the first place is the issue

fuck i said i wouldnt get drawn back into this i need to go mow

listen

im glad you guys are enjoying ahsoka i really am

i've just had a really hard time enjoying the series, and i think its making some major (unintentional) mistakes that will lead to bigger issues in star wars down the line

[valid blaze]

i would also like the point out that transformers earthspark was 100% a kids show. but i only ever saw adults talking about and enjoying it

[fervent skiff]

i dont think filoni is like

doing this intentionally

[torpid stag]

gotta watch earthspark sometime

[valid blaze]

same

[fervent skiff]

i just think the dwelling on old shit, and retelling of animated events in live action will cause major issues for star wars in the future

[valid blaze]

This image sold me on it

[fervent skiff]

keep enjoying the show guys

[torpid stag]

all filoni is doing intentionally is trying to make the best possible product he can for the fans he knows want to enjoy it. And for me and seemingly most others it's working.

[fervent skiff]

okay i actually need to go now

im glad its working

[torpid stag]

sorry you're not into it

[fervent skiff]

i just feel crazy when i see people praising it like its the best thing to ever grace star wars when in my eyes it doesnt even come close

but i've been on the other side

[torpid stag]

true enough

[fervent skiff]

i've loved stuff that other people dont see the value in

[solid pewter]

Everyone will do this for every new Star Wars thing tho

I've seen so many people call X Star Wars show "the best thing ever"

It's just the nature of the hype

[torpid stag]

me the BOBF-shill that I am seeing everyone cry and piss over the power rangers bikes:

[torpid stag]

the only times i've said that tbf were Andor and now "possibly" ahsoka..depending how the season wraps up

BOBF i knew was a hot mess but i had so much fun with it

[solid pewter]

Andor is the only thing I could say is peak

rest is just

Either alright or just good

[torpid stag]

Andor suffers from one major problem that is imperative to my engagement with the star wars brand however

the toys fuckin suck ass

[solid pewter]

See

I couldn't give a shit cuz it's one of those shows that don't really get merch

[torpid stag]

its the least toyetic star wars product ever made

which isn't a problem

but as a star wars collector it's annoying

[valid blaze]

i liked andor, and can say safely that its an amazing show that we need more of. but its not really my star wars, i love the themes and political messaging. but if i have to pick between it and wacky lesbian indiana jones villain, i'll take the wacky lesbian

[solid pewter]

Skill issue

[torpid stag]

u so real for that

[valid blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-darth-vader-doctor-gif-21425204

[solid pewter]

My hot take is that Andor is better than ESB

And I will always put it above everything

Idk how hot that take is for THIS server

but for Star Wars communities it's blasphemous

[valid blaze]

honestly i want aphra in live action. but i don't think general star wars fans are ready for her

[torpid stag]

in collecting circle and thinking hmmmm do i want the ghost crew and their giant spaceship with different multicoloured alien species with a ton of accessories?
Or do i want a blonde lady in a jacket with just a real life fuckin normal earth assault rifle.

Andor has the most dull merch

[valid blaze]

i will say though, andor not having many funky aliens is a big L

[solid pewter]

I like that it's just a bunch of depressed British people

[grand thunder]

It's honestly criminal that Lego hasn't capitalized a little more on Andor. How is Luthen's ship still not a set

[torpid stag]

god right

thats like the one andor thing i'd actually buy

[solid pewter]

Tangent back to Ahsoka though

[valid blaze]

tbf its not like lego has really gone all in on the shows. we barely have any mando sets and ahsoka the only show to get a full wave on release

[solid pewter]

It's so weird hearing Tumera voice Rex

[grand thunder]

Ik but at least Mando as a show has gotten more than one set

If I could just get Luthen's ship as a set, I could die happy

[grand thunder]

Man I liked the more grounded feel of Andor because it offered a fresh feel for the Star Wars universe but sometimes it could be a little too grounded my god lmao

[solid pewter]

Andor holding back on everything we expect from Star Wars is the reason why it's my favourite Star Wars show ever

[grand thunder]

It's definitely my favourite of the Disney + shows but favourite show of the franchise? Nah

[main ledge]

https://x.com/retneysholocron/status/1701800863948218477?s=46&t=nK2RzESKnrKCyg9YOGR8jQ

Retney's Holocron (@retneysholocron)

When your apprentice rightfully calls you out for becoming a Sith Lord and murdering children but you’re Anakin Skywalker and you’ll always be sassy
#Ahsoka #Anakin

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Twitter · Sep 13, 2023, 3:31 AM

[grand thunder]

The show as a whole is definitely somewhere in my top 10 Star Wars things ever

Ahsoka in terms of delivering that classic Star Wars feel is up there so far in terms of the disney + shows, from the beginning I was way more invested than Kenobi, BOBF and Mando season 3 combined

I just hope it sticks the landing 🤞

[solid pewter]

I already like Ahsoka more than BOBF and Mando S3

It has that classic SW feel to it more than Andor ever will have

but I always watch these shows with tampered expectations

And Ahsoka is definitely a mixture of classic SW, CW and Rebels in a way that isn't gripping me as much but I am still interested in seeing where it goes

[valid blaze]

i like how spiritual the show feels. like this is the most mystical the force has felt in decades

[solid pewter]

I love when SW media adds on to the Force

It's why I loved some of the powers shown in the ST

The Force and everything around it is so maliable that it would be stupid not to constantly add onto it

[torpid stag]

Shame a lot of fans don't for some reason

I love it

[grand thunder]

All the force shit on Lothal is genuinely some of my favourite stuff in the franchise

[torpid stag]

Sameeee

[grand thunder]

Loth Wolves are so freaking cool

[solid pewter]

Because when Disney does it it's bad

but when based BioWare does it

it's good

[torpid stag]

Bioware is p based

[solid pewter]

Like bruh KOTOR added so many new force powers at the time

Yes

But

It's always Disney bad, X company I like good

[grand thunder]

Unless I'm forgetting something there hasn't been a single addition to the force that I haven't been a fan of in the disney era

And through all the new additions, the force still remains such a mysterious thing which I love

[torpid stag]

Calling it now. Next character to introduce a new use of the force will be Jacen

[cosmic cairn]

Has to be. Now that I'm awake and going through texts from friends. Going to be an interesting day at work. Lots of theories

[crystal pebble]

No they didn't lol
Lucasfilm have always outsourced their animated shows, it's not done inhouse

The place they shut down had nothing to do with animation

[torpid stag]

https://x.com/bryaneward/status/1702018643192697105?s=46

Bryan Ward (@bryaneward)

#Ahsoka

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Twitter · Sep 13, 2023, 5:57 PM

[amber star]

Is it wrong that I'm hoping Hasbro might put out some gen 1 trooper helmets now that we've seen them in live action?

They were always my favorite

[grand thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/aragorn-hope-always-always-hope-lotr-gif-13380933

[wanton lance]

I enjoyed Rebels, CW, BB and so on except resistance. Having watched Andor and Ahsoka. I enjoyed both massively. Seeing clone wars throw backs is fucking sweet.

I lean on the side of a live action clone wars, but that's just me dreaming. But I dont think it'll be a reality soon.

And yes, I enjoyed both ep4 and 5 very massively.

[turbid drum]

Andor is decent Star Wars but an excellent Blake's 7 reboot: https://youtu.be/pnautWFuEnQ?si=1jWuASx4-gjbK3Tm

I'm frankly shocked nobody on the internet did an Andor version of this opening.

[lunar knoll]

I like the actor they used for young ahsoka. She did a really good job. Even during the fight scenes!

My only complaint is that i think she looked too young. I though she would have been in her later teens during the Siege of Mandalore

[turbid drum]

They probably wanted to avoid "breaking the flow" too much by hiring multiple actors for young Ahsoka.

[lunar knoll]

Sounds fair.

Still a bit off-putting

[valid blaze]

I really like how they're using jacen so far. I was kinda worried he'd just be there. But I like he's playing an active role

Jacen hiding behind chopper was also cute as fuck

[torpid stag]

i agree

i hated all 2 seconds we got of him in rebels so im glad i actually like him now

[valid blaze]

I really hope they let ezra train him. Let it all be full circle

[torpid stag]

oh man

that'd be so cute

[ashen pivot]

Finally ezra will be the big brother

[tired vector]

im a prophet

[valid blaze]

Tbf though, I was talking about ahsoka having a gandalf moment before the show started

And also dave drew this back in 2019 and directly compared ahsoka to gandalf leading up to the show

I wonder if well get this though

God I love dave illustrations

[amber star]

Oop sorry Sabine!

[valid blaze]

?

[ashen pivot]

How often do we get live action snow planet scenes?

[valid blaze]

I wish dave posted more of his illustrations tbh. I think the last one we got were with siege of mandalore back in 2020, and one for mando s2

[valid blaze]

I'm pretty sure we've gotten like 3

Hoth, that place in one of the mando seasons kijimi

[tired vector]

Starkiller base

[valid blaze]

Ah yeah

[rose vapor]

That Crosshair episode of The Bad Batch S2 had one

The Clone Wars had one that's where Senator Riyo Chuchi came in

[valid blaze]

Bad batch isn't live action though

[rose vapor]

Oh I thought we were talking just in general my bad

[torpid stag]

https://twitter.com/CobaltGreen1138/status/1702021406849122525?t=36PYFQsuyIqRDw2_GE1cAw&s=19

Cobalt ✨ | SAG and WGA supporter (@CobaltGreen1138)

Here's all the issues with Live-Action Captain Rex #Ahsoka
Wrong pauldron
Wrong Kama
No Kama straps
Wrong Holsters
Wrong Holster placement
Flipped bicep armor
Sideways elbow pads
Animated shoulder pads
Wrong shade of blue
No black brow
Wrong Jaig eyes
Animated vents

Twitter · Sep 13, 2023, 6:08 PM

Thoughts? Cause everything he said is right.

But I can't bring myself to care cause I didn't notice lol

[tired vector]

is it wrong or just different

[rose vapor]

Besides the flipped elbow pads I don't mind it being different

Like the elbow pads being flipped looks wrong

[torpid stag]

Bit of both

Some bits are just being worn wrong

Like the elbow pads and biceps

[ashen pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-no-one-cares-gif-18925814

[tired vector]

also idk what they mean by rex having a black brow cause i always thought it was blue and even images online show it's blue

[grand thunder]

Idrc, still can recognize him as Rex. All I care about end of the day

[tired vector]

i tried to look up more references and it seems their evidence for him having a black brow comes from the sideshow figure having a prominent black brow when in animation he doesn't

[ashen pivot]

Interesting

[tired vector]

sideshow figures aren't always accurate despite how well painted they are so I'm more inclined to believe that they're just stylistic differences

[latent crag]

Who actually fucking cares about this?

[tired vector]

"people" on twitter

[fervent skiff]

this is illegitimate criticism lmao

literally just nitpicking lmao

"why did kylos scar move" CAUSE IT LOOKS COOL

MOVE ON

People really be making the dumbest reasons to hate shit sometimes

I didnt like episode 5 mainly cause i thought it was a bit of a derailment and stalling of the main plot, seeing as we only have 3 episodes left. My issues with it was mostly the directing and such not like the costume inaccuracy 😭

i actually think the costume design on this show has been top-tier

baylan and shin dude they look

SOO GOOD

[wary needle]

FFS

It👏was👏a👏Force👏VISION!👏

[fervent skiff]

lmfaooo

people be crazy bro

I thought i was being a hater but look at these guys 😭

[wise maple]

https://tenor.com/view/no-one-cares-noboday-cares-who-cares-idgaf-gif-16905444

[fervent skiff]

I do think the show will get better from here

now that all the like familiar stuff is out of the way

finally

new shit

maybe thats why i was so frustrated by yesterdays episode, I wasnt really feelin eps 1-3 but episode 4 made me actually excited where it was going, but i got worried about the haydan stuff at the end but it was only half the episode and it seems like the story is finally moving forward

just felt like a bit of a stall imo

only 3 episodes left to see this new galaxy

after it was teased at the end of episode 1

just seems so drawn out for a show thats only got 8 episodes

[wary needle]

I don’t think we’ll see Ezra and Thrawn until the finale

[fervent skiff]

i think we'll see Ezra earlier

Thrawn pre-finale

my guess

[wary needle]

And there better be nobody here being like “well actually according to the leaks” 🤓

[fervent skiff]

like end of the second to last episode for a short bit

then be in the entire last episode

[fervent skiff]

yeah fuck that shit

[wary needle]

Fuckin nerds

[wise maple]

Ahsoka has been great, as opposed to Kenobi, which was well, frankly

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1080108227162816542/1084620610929447004/mid.mov

[fervent skiff]

imo

[wary needle]

I thought the first few OWK episodes had minor issues and then the fourth and fifth episodes derailed it for me

[fervent skiff]

Ahsoka (imo) is pretty mid so far. But i am enjoying it more than Kenobi... not that that is a high bar in my eyes

[wary needle]

Duel in finale was cool but I didn’t care for how hard they tried to make it rhyme with the Ahsoka duel and Luke’s literal line in ROTJ

[fervent skiff]

i cant draw my full conclusion till i finish the show though

I just would have prefered they just like

talked

instead of fought

lmfao

[wary needle]

Just like how I can’t draw a full conclusion on The Simpsons until it finishes

[fervent skiff]

like her fully getting to talk to a redeemed anakin and being able to actually reconsile like people

but nah instead anakin speaks in riddles and they duel cause

lightsabers yay

idk 😭

[wary needle]

It’s Tolkien yo

Riddles in the dark

Get with the program

[grand thunder]

I will admit her getting to talk to a redeemed Anakin would have been infinitely better

I guess it could still happen but seems unlikely now

[fervent skiff]

like them being able to just talk out their issues

give the audience some context on their relationship

because we got glimpses of like their past

we LITERALLY saw it

but if you havent seen TCW you still dont understand their relationship

[wary needle]

Well just remember this

[fervent skiff]

i still think this show would have been better animated, bring back the original voices have them talk it out

[wary needle]

Star Wars will go on forever

[fervent skiff]

would have been so emotional

[wary needle]

So it’ll eventually probably happen

[fervent skiff]

it would just feel cheap now

i dont want to see a scenario like this again

im tired of star wars spinning its wheels

ig thats just me

i'll have to wait like

a year or two for acolyte

cause thats the only non-tied in thing now

you know i was talking to one of my more casual star wars friends who hasnt seen rebels and only saw clone wars years ago

and hes just like, he feels like the mandalorian storyline just ejected him out

like it was its own unique thing

that anyone could watch

then it did the whole springboard spinoff interconnected era thing

it just lost some people

[wary needle]

Yeah they really could’ve just told stand-alone stories in the same era without making them super connected

[fervent skiff]

yeah i really think this rebels sequel should have been an animated sequel that still took place in the same era with some crossing over characters just, have it animated and not ESSENTIAL VIEWING for future mandalorian shit lmao

[wary needle]

Hell I don’t think Mandalorian really needs to deal with the Thrawn stuff

Watch Grogu be the one to kill Thrawn lmao

[fervent skiff]

if what they say about all the shows crossing over and leading to the film are to be believed you're probably gonna have to watch ahsoka to understand everything going on later

which as i said before

ahsoka has a barrier of entry

of 11 seasons of animated content

if you want to fully get the story

so i suppose this era is just FOR the ultra-fans

ig i just miss when mando was just its own thing lmao

not the start of the star wars mcu era 😭

[wary needle]

This is why Andor is infinitely better than everything else and people who like the other stuff should eat 💩

[grand thunder]

I truly hope this attempt at being the mcu but Star Wars is the only time it’s attempted, I don’t want it to become a regular thing

[fervent skiff]

lmaoo true everyones elses opinions are OBBJECTIVELY FALSE and ONLY I AM RIGHT

STAR WARS SHOULD BE WHAT I WANT AND NOTHING ELSE

[wary needle]

www.urbandictionary.com/sarcasm

[fervent skiff]

^^^

for clarification guys im joking 😭

im glad people are liking ahsoka

[wary needle]

“How can you joke at a time like this? I want you to be more serious.”

[fervent skiff]

but i wont lie when i say that it doesnt frustrate me a tiny bit not really GETTING what everyone sees in it

but again, i been on the other side of the fence before

i've loved stuff other people didnt see value in so

I get it

[wary needle]

It’s really only the third and fifth episodes I’d give an 8

The others I’d give a 6

So far a collective score of 6.8

[torpid stag]

https://twitter.com/jedi_flodux/status/1701996088847130927

Alex (@jedi_flodux)

LMAOO sure it was

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Twitter · Sep 13, 2023, 4:27 PM

bruh

[fervent skiff]

i'd probably say the shows been like a solid 5/10 for me mostly

[torpid stag]

SWT is trying to take credit for coming up with the Ahsoka script.

there's no fucking way

[fervent skiff]

its so funny dude

i actually couldnt stop laughing when i saw that

[wary needle]

I’m pretty sure many people could’ve come up with that little bit

[torpid stag]

isn't this the guy that wrote that one scene of Vader and palpatine being caught in a force-push-lightsaber/force-reflect-force-lightining standoff for a good 4 minutes in his fanfilm.

[fervent skiff]

im pretty sure people could've come up with the whole thing

[wary needle]

SWT is so cringe. Just remembering the video of him pretending he’s at an airport waiting for Lucasfilm to send him his Celebration invite

Embarrassing

[mental osprey]

So I’m guessing Thrawn is gonna found the First Order or something of the sort?

[wary needle]

Nah

[ashen pivot]

The guy who invented baptizing: dude that’s from my scripture

[mental osprey]

I feel like Dave and Favreau are just ignoring the novels/comics at this point so a lot seems possible

[wary needle]

First Order is its own convoluted origin

[fervent skiff]

like ahsoka communing with ghost anakin and seeing clone wars flash backs and world between worlds, ahsoka being reborn into ahsoka the white... these are all like... no brainers lmfaoo

like this is EXACTLY what i'd expect when you say "ahsoka show"

[mental osprey]

They’re probably gonna ignore that shit

[wary needle]

Fuck em then

[fervent skiff]

well this but animated but thats besides the point

lmao

[fervent skiff]

they did include hux's father

and the pretorian gaurds

[wary needle]

Filoni and Favreau should just merge into one being like Tuvix

[fervent skiff]

and they been showing ex-imps trying to make force sensitive clones to

all stuff the first order and palpatine was secretly doing

[mental osprey]

True but the shadow council disbanded years before mando season 3 if we go by the novels

[fervent skiff]

so

im guessing its a new shadow council

[wary needle]

The fact that Gallius Rax has been ignored even in expanded media over the last several years is bizarre

[fervent skiff]

theres slightly different memebers after all

[torpid stag]

SWT sees a character waking up in the morning after sleeping.
"Dude thats from my script "

[mental osprey]

Yeah which leads me to believe they’re ignoring the novels

[fervent skiff]

i mean hes dead by mando by like 4 years so

[wary needle]

Rae Sloane better not be erased or I’ll kill a vegetable

[fervent skiff]

Sloane not being in s3 raises red flags for me

[mental osprey]

She’s not gonna show up lol

[fervent skiff]

not just that but filoni in general has a habit of just throwing away stuff (He learned at the feet of George after all)

[wary needle]

Then your rad dishes die

[fervent skiff]

like

small detail but

[mental osprey]

Yep so I’m guessing Thrawn is gonna play a major hand in the first order then

Which hey that’s cool and I don’t mind it

That would definitely make the first order feel more impactful

[fervent skiff]

Ahsoka force echo?? Like, it has been stated very explicitly in the past that this is a BORN WITH ONLY ability right? Like Cal and Rey? But ig she can learn it. Thats not a huge deal but its just a small thing that shows filoni doesnt read into the canon as much as he maybe should?

also

the retconning of the ahsoka novel in TOTJ

felt like

almost spiteful

[mental osprey]

Spiteful?

[fervent skiff]

it fully throws out most of the elements that make that story unique whilst erasing gay rep, and swapping the genders of a canon character?

[mental osprey]

It’s an animated show I don’t think Filoni was being “spiteful” he probably just wanted to do his own shit

[fervent skiff]

it just was so blantent erasure of parts of the book

like directly adapting events from it

[mental osprey]

I think people value canon too much

[fervent skiff]

throwing out shit the auther put in

[fervent skiff]

on that we do agree

but retconning an entire novel with a 10 minute short

[mental osprey]

The prequels have so many plot holes when you connect them to the OT that I really don’t care about canon

[fervent skiff]

seems a tad far, no?

[mental osprey]

Tbh I don’t give two shits

[wary needle]

As far as I’m concerned, the “Tales” in the title means it’s less legit than the novel

[fervent skiff]

thats how i see it to

also

i just think

making tales of the jedi

half focus on ahsoka

was a huge mistake

[wary needle]

I definitely preferred the Dooku episodes

[fervent skiff]

the three episodes we see dont even ADD anything to ahsoka as a character lets be honest

like i would have so much prefered to see someone we dont know much about

[wary needle]

But also Yaddle’s fate, the very end of it, was kinda stupid

[fervent skiff]

I liked the dooku stuff alot

cause it was NEW STUFF

for ahsoka its just

[wary needle]

I did like the one where she’s a baby

The blaster dodging training was explaining shit we didn’t need explained

[fervent skiff]

1. Baby Ahsoka learns she has force
2. Ahsoka trains
3. A worse version of a story from a novel

those are all things

[wary needle]

Nobody was questioning how Ahsoka was able to survive the clones

[fervent skiff]

we already KNEW

about ahsoka

this adds

NOTHING to her as a character

lmao

like we have 7 seasons of clone wars where she is basically the main character

we have her in rebels

AND NOW

she has her own show

[torpid stag]

[wary needle]

Like at least tell new and better tales

[torpid stag]

we're back again ig

[fervent skiff]

but no she needs 3/6 of the tales of the jedi episodes to?

[wary needle]

I’d like to know if Ahsoka went searching for her parents

[fervent skiff]

please there are other characters please 😭

or at least like

do one about ahsoka

do one about another jedi

do one about a different one again

like have the 3 parter be the dooku stuff

personally

i would have loved to see Bariss episodes

[wary needle]

I still wanna know what happened to Coleman Kcaj

[fervent skiff]

I wanna know how she became disillusioned with the order aswell

I just think using 3/6 episodes on someone who is about to get there own show is a bit of a waste of an anthology format

i mean they were like well made

but i didnt really learn anything about ahsoka

[wary needle]

I enjoyed 4/6 of the episodes, so it’s like 67%, which is a D+. How fitting

[fervent skiff]

lmfaooo

we've cracked the code

give me high republic tales of the jedi god dammit

the fact that the only mainstream media they've put out for high republic is the actual little kids show makes me think that casual viewers are gonna think the whole era is for kids under the age of 6 😭

[wary needle]

Nah I don’t think the general@public is aware of that show

[fervent skiff]

i mean its on the big D+ splashscreen

[wary needle]

We

Ew

Don’t say it like that

[fervent skiff]

Im also just petty cause the only high republic legos we've gotten is a set for actual toddlers

[wary needle]

Anyway I’m watching Friends now. It’s a relief knowing Filoni can’t retcon this baby

[fervent skiff]

lmfaoooo

[wary needle]

Stupid cowboy

[fervent skiff]

anyway, all things considered I do think i'll enjoy ahsoka more that we're onto the new stuff

[torpid stag]

https://tenor.com/view/ahsoka-ahsoka-tano-anakin-skywalker-darth-vader-duel-gif-13912052717898750552

yeah so anyway

peak

[fervent skiff]

i cant tell if your being fr

i mean

i like white lightsabers

they my favorite

but

i would have prefered them just

talking

tbqh

[torpid stag]

you should be able to tell by now

[fervent skiff]

listen im already bad with social ques and this is over text so 😭

[torpid stag]

i genuinely absolutely enjoy the Ahsoka show and p much everything we've seen of it

a few nitpicks here and there but nothing to make me dislike it

i consider it a good show

[tired vector]

I feel similar to Greedo that the first few episodes were rough in spots but the last two sold me on the show

[torpid stag]

I was having fun

nothing in those episodes made me feel distracted or that they were flawed, but they weren't as good as the recent eps

[tired vector]

If they can keep the quality up it'll prob be my second favourite of all these new shows

[fervent skiff]

i mean i get having fun

lightsaber duels are fun

[fervent skiff]

but im sorry

i cant look at this and genuinely say peak

[torpid stag]

then dont

[fervent skiff]

its just lightsaber fighting

[torpid stag]

move on

[fervent skiff]

we've seen it so many times

[torpid stag]

tfw jedis duel with lightsabers

[fervent skiff]

i mean thats fair

i also like when duel

[tired vector]

Andor being the best obviously and I'm hesitant to count Mando cause I only really like the first season in its entirety and select episodes and parts of the others

[fervent skiff]

but duels are like, the candy part of star wars (im pretty sure HG has made this metahpor before), Yes the chocolate is good but the real meat and potatos is the story and the characters, and i personally cannot call any of the fluff on ANY story "peak"

[torpid stag]

Ahsoka is a continuation of the rebels and TCW continuities and stars a bunch of beautiful women with a great soundtrack and great visuals, with some powerful but narratively relevant fanservice. It's all i wanted and I'm pleased.

[fervent skiff]

because "peak" in a story to me will always be the perfect spot where a story is emotionally at its best

i could never give it to any action scene

peak in ahsoka to me, is when baylan and sabine where talking at the end of episode 4

[torpid stag]

https://tenor.com/view/ahsoka-vader-episode-5-gif-13137270926260763756

yeah so anyway peak

[fervent skiff]

https://media.tenor.com/6vqMhl8FE28AAAAC/sabine-map-star-wars-way.gif

this shit

the way its filmed, the chemistry of the actors and the sublte performances each one gives

[torpid stag]

we got to live in a timeline where hayden christensen got to reprise his role as Anakin in multiple shows, personally speak to Ahsoka, and don the armour from the animated series and interact with Rex.
And people find a way to complain about it.

[fervent skiff]

feels way more personal than a duel between two characters who actually should have emotional weight interacting

[fervent skiff]

im sorry but

just seeing things i know

isnt enough to make me enjoy something

lmfao

[torpid stag]

you aint sorry lol

[fervent skiff]

you're right

I shouldnt be sorry for how I feel

I'm being honest, just seeing stuff I already know but in live action this time isnt enough for me to say this is a good show

[torpid stag]

i think you'd do right to just like accept that people like this show

and you dont

[fervent skiff]

im

[torpid stag]

and go do something else

[fervent skiff]

not denying that??

its very clear people like this show?

[torpid stag]

every time anything is mentioned regarding people's excitement for it you have a response to give about your confusion regarding that.

like chill out

[fervent skiff]

i didnt realize me venting my personal grievances meant that I believed no one else could enjoy it

[torpid stag]

no when you do so explicitly in response to somebody praising it

thats whats frustrating

you're allowed to vent your grievances but to do it specifically as a response to somebody's enjoyment that's just not fair on the person

it bothers me less than most cause i've dealt with that kind of shit for years as a sequel fan lol

but it's still not a good behavior to have

[fervent skiff]

Literally yesterday I didnt even want to talk about my feelings on this episode cause i knew it'd just be negative, but y'all reassured me it was fine lmao. Sorry that when all people do is post stuff I dont enjoy, I dont really have much to add to the conversation other than to state my thoughts

i'll refrain

[torpid stag]

I still think you can and should be allowed to express your feelings on a show. Wouldn't imply otherwise

i just think it's a dickmove to do it only as a response to somebody's enjoyment rather than just stating your case on it's own

i'm guilty of it myself

i've done it in the past and it was shitty of me

it's an easy trap to fall into

so like i think it should be more of a case of "I personally had a problem with this and this"
Rather than
"Okay sorry but how can you feel that way about this and this"

if that makes sense?

its just the way you frame the argument that makes it appear more hostile

again i've done it before and i still do it sometimes lol.

i try and catch myself

[grand thunder]

I think every fan of anything is guilty of it sometimes

[torpid stag]

for sure

[grand thunder]

We as people be passionate about things

[ashen pivot]

No passion allowed

[wary needle]

Passion is a Sith thing

[ashen pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/838987396896522280/1151696102622498836/SWTTCW.mp4

[torpid stag]

swt is a special kind of stupid

[fervent skiff]

SWE based as fuck

[torpid stag]

i do like SWE

and TFM hates him for no reason

lul

[fervent skiff]

its because hes just a super positive guy

hes the only youtuber besides HG i watch cover star wars cause hes all positive

[wary needle]

Did SWT actually say that?

[ashen pivot]

In that clip? Absolutely

[torpid stag]

if it sounds stupid

yes

[wary needle]

Ffs

And yeah SWE is much better than him

But I kinda fell off of watching them

Back catalog just felt like too much for me to keep up with

Nothing against them

[ashen pivot]

Honestly someone like him should want less LA. Action in animation is always more free to explore

[wary needle]

HG is more digestible than Boba Fett

[fervent skiff]

wat

what does that mean

[ashen pivot]

Dude wants to vore us

[wary needle]

His videos are easier to take in

[fervent skiff]

HG's vidoes are easier to take in

than book of boba fett? I still dont understand the statement

[wary needle]

Than Boba Fett in the sarlacc

[fervent skiff]

or is there a youtuber named boba fett

OHHH

[wary needle]

The sarlacc couldn’t digest him in the end

[fervent skiff]

im so fucking braindead my lord

https://x.com/StupendousWave/status/1702095613045743863?s=20

The Stupendous Wave (@StupendousWave)

This scene is reportedly somewhere in the Lucasfilm archives #Ahsoka

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Twitter · Sep 13, 2023, 11:03 PM

https://tenor.com/view/why-you-always-lyin-dance-dancing-lying-lie-gif-10823615

literally just making shit up

they been saying "OMG ANAKIN AHSOKA MUSTAFAR FIGHT IS REAL GUYS TRUST ME" for months and now it didnt happen they're claiming its archived

OK guys

my uncle works at nintendo

[wary needle]

I was honestly worried Mustafar could appear

God that would’ve been stupid

What they did was more subtle and tasteful

[main ledge]

https://x.com/thrawnadelrey/status/1701991083343855857?s=46&t=nK2RzESKnrKCyg9YOGR8jQ

thrawnadelrey (@thrawnadelrey)

Fans have been complaining that #Ahsoka has been “too stoic” and “detached” in all of her Mandoverse appearances, meanwhile Dave Filoni has been EXPLICITLY expressing why that is ever since the ending of Rebels.

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Twitter · Sep 13, 2023, 4:07 PM

https://tenor.com/view/dave-filoni-writing-fire-mandoverse-ahsoka-gif-8260863667267756397

[wary needle]

Something something Gandalf

[grand thunder]

The copium

[fervent skiff]

listen guys-

[grand thunder]

What do you mean listen, most of the people in this thread on your side lmao

Also it's incredibly ironic her last name is Hati

[tired vector]

I don't want to fix her, I want her to break me

[fervent skiff]

took the words right out of my mouth

https://x.com/crimsonbun/status/1702026635220787666?s=20

zila | VADER NATION RISE (@crimsonbun)

new anakin reaction vid just dropped

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Twitter · Sep 13, 2023, 6:29 PM

okay this is funny

[viscid sage]

you know what went hard

anakin flashing into vader with the fucking exegol lightning sound effect

[grand thunder]

I actually didn't register it was that sound effect when watching and then someone pointed it out online and now you have as well lol

[fervent skiff]

i didnt notice that either

thats a neat way to tie things in

[viscid sage]

if hyperfixating on a sound effect is a thing, i did it

i love that sound so much

[grand thunder]

Same

[viscid sage]

star war brainrot

[fervent skiff]

btw for people who complain "WHY DIDNT ANAKIN WARN LUKE ABOUT EXEGOL" I implore you to read shadow of the sith

[grand thunder]

On my list

Heard it's also just a pretty good read

[fervent skiff]

i dont like TROS by any means but shadow of the sith made me content with its existance in the wider star wars universe

its also just a really good book

it feels like 90s legends without being dated, its literally a post-ROTJ adventure with luke and lando uncovering a conspiracy

its actually amazing

[grand thunder]

Always love me some more Lando

And him and Luke don't really interact in the movies so look forward to seeing the relationship

Probably will get to it this year

[crystal pebble]

I really wish they'd put out some post-OT animated stories with the og big 3 😔

[fervent skiff]

concur

why filoni stuff live action

could be animation

[crystal pebble]

I do not desire a deep fake Luke

[fervent skiff]

that way we could have luke and han and everyone involved

and they wouldnt fucking deepfake it yeah

big screen animated star wars movie tho

like thats not just 4 clone wars episodes ducktaped together

[crystal pebble]

Yeah, like I honestly don't get why Lucasfilm haven't done any more
Cheaper and quicker to produce

[fervent skiff]

is it?

i didnt know that if thats true

[crystal pebble]

Considering all the current Star Wars names would be getting more and more expensive to bring back, probably

[torpid stag]

https://twitter.com/thecanonjunkie/status/1702135236010631633?t=gqfX28I4_0syDgJldPNb8Q&s=19

Gerry The Canon Junkie (@thecanonjunkie)

You’re welcome

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Twitter · Sep 14, 2023, 1:40 AM

[mental osprey]

I wanna beat him over the head with a baseball bat.

https://tenor.com/view/drive-gif-25753614

[wary needle]

Star Wars Theory? More like

Big Bang Theory

Bazinga

[grand thunder]

https://youtu.be/BM9-ZzupZbA?si=-tjILuFO0skoWqx4

[wary needle]

Gotta love the red arrow and circles

[fervent skiff]

i mean it does catch the eye

[wary needle]

And Hayden doesn’t? SMH

[fervent skiff]

lmfao

[fervent skiff]

not with that blurry ass screenshot no

also i dont get why people are complaining about Anakins armor??

like i thought it looked great

looks exactly how i'd imagine it in real life like

lmao

as someone who doesnt even like the show that much: Im seeing the DUMBEST critism of it on the internet dude

like people deadass trying to pick apart the costume design when imho thats the most solid part of the show like what 💀

[viscid sage]

me when the thing that was made specifically for animation and is then forced into live action, doesnt suit it as much as in animation: 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

such weird gripes

also ppl are complaining ab the haziness..? like mf its spirit world fuckshit

50x more visually interesting than the rest of the grey ass show

[fervent skiff]

my complaint is that it looked a bit to much like it was filmed on a sound stage... but thats an issue of MOST of these Disney+ show so i dont blame ahsoka specifically but

[viscid sage]

yeah fair

[fervent skiff]

big empty flat plain with alot of smoke doesnt help much

[valid blaze]

I'm pretty sure the only compliment for anakin was the fact the armour noticeably bigger than it should be. But not enough that it matters

[fervent skiff]

looks like it was filmed in a flat soundstage with a smoke machine 😬

but again, this is an issue that permeates alot of D+ shows so

[viscid sage]

yeahh its cuz in clone wars hes a fucking toothpick lmao

did i mention this show wouldve been better animated

[fervent skiff]

not on Ahsoka specifically (tho i dont think dave being inexperienced in live action helps much)

[fervent skiff]

frrr

i keep sayin it

most of the technical problems would be solved

and many of my personal issues with it would be solved to

to me just seeing something that i already know is canon in live action doesnt do much for me

but im the bitch that always moans about wanting new things so

this show so far probably just hasnt been for me personally

[torpid stag]

[viscid sage]

im like weirdly indifferent on this show

[grand thunder]

I’m also usually in favour of new things but I also really liked Rebels and have been patiently waiting for a continuation but yeah weird that it’s not animated

But even the best stuff in this show has just kind of been fine, haven’t been blown away tbh

[viscid sage]

like in my eyes, mando was great and went downhill, kenobi was mid with high highs, andor is amazing, book of boba isnt good. with this show im kinda just like 👍ok cool

i guess im critical of the visuals but thats nothing new

its just kind of. 🤷

[grand thunder]

And Visions is peak like Andor

[valid blaze]

Eh. I don't really care at this point. Would have liked it to be animated. But I also don't think this story would have been allowed to happen if it wasn't like this, so I'm just happy to have it told

[grand thunder]

Idk if Visions is allowed to happen then I’m sure a sequel to Rebels and by extension CW could have been allowed to happen in animated form

I don’t buy that “Oh it wasn’t allowed to happen in that form” but again trying my very best to just accept that this is the way the story is being told but again just haven’t been blown away yet

[viscid sage]

if fucking bad batch is a thing then a sequel to a show with a guaranteed base wouldve happened

they just wanted to bring in more viewers

like atp im taking the show as it is, its just a shame

the show isnt bad for being live action. just not what it could be, which is its own convo

to an extent

[valid blaze]

Yeah but visions wasn't made in house and using foreign labour, so it was probably cheaper for Disney in the long term.

[grand thunder]

Ok but to Turtle’s point Bad Batch

And yeah it’s a sequel to CW but it’s also centred around characters that are pretty obscure within the context of that show

[valid blaze]

Yeah, but it's still a clone wars sequel, and thus at the very least has a guaranteed audience for at least the first season

[grand thunder]

The name Ahsoka sells, people would watch an animated show focusing on her in animated form

[valid blaze]

Yeah but it also wouldn't focus on her at all
If it was animated ahsoka would have already had her main arc and the entire focus would be on sabine and ezra

[grand thunder]

Yeah but we’re going off the logic it would still be called Ahsoka so that would attract people

But also I think there’s a good amount of people that tuned into Rebels after it finished airing

[valid blaze]

There is, but Disney clearly doesn't care. Given that it took this show to even get us the smallest amount of rebels merch in years

[grand thunder]

Well that’s Disney’s problem. Shitty justification

[valid blaze]

💀

[grand thunder]

Guaranteed is a bit of a stretch? I knew people who were turned off when they saw the name of the show

[valid blaze]

Not really? They were the main focus of the first part of season 7, had years of build up. And the show was set up to explore the clones in the aftermath of order 66 and the birth of the empire. That a guarantees a big enough audience to justify the show

[grand thunder]

Yeah but that arc was not like massively popular

The other things sure were promised sure but the baseline is that the show focused on characters that are kind of uninteresting to a lot of people

[grand thunder]

https://x.com/tommy_stella/status/1702353488741634240?s=46&t=7ZDjHsMnb3SfMtGoOn4cWQ

Tommy Stella - AT THE END is OUT NOW 🟣 (@tommy_stella)

Dude can't afford Disney+

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Twitter · Sep 14, 2023, 4:07 PM

[viscid sage]

this is star wars: the clone wars season 7 episode 9 master

[fervent skiff]

https://x.com/N8Mess/status/1702343655401390540?s=20

Nathan Messer (@N8Mess)

“Rex and Mandalore were just fan service!”

WRONG. It’s WAY deeper than that. Let me explain.

That entire sequence on Mandalore with Rex was to remind the audience that these are the EXACT moments when #Ahsoka was not there with #Anakin when he becomes Vader.

(1/7) ⬇️ 🧵

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Twitter · Sep 14, 2023, 3:28 PM

okay guys hear me out

i understand this

like i get thats the story being told

but (for me) it kinda reminds me of the prequels where there is a deep emotional story once you like, analize it. But when you're actually watching you dont really pick up on said deep story when you're actually watching it? Again like- I just wish they talked instead of fighting eachother with only a vague sentance between the two of them every once in awhile... It just made it so alot of people didnt really GET what the episode was trying to say

I really think Dave is George Lucas in all the best and worst ways

hes a really strong visionary with a nack for storytelling but is held back by his own directorial skill. I think he should have been a creative writer on this show not the actual director

or just done it in animation and let him do the directing

but again, those are all my thoughts

maybe im just a dumbo who doesnt understand the story like others could first time around

https://x.com/blurayangel/status/1702269968249917787?s=20

BLURAYANGEL 🦇 (@blurayangel)

After how Dave Filoni handled Anakin in #Ahsoka, I really hope Luke Skywalker is the main character for his Star Wars movie HEIR TO THE EMPIRE

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Twitter · Sep 14, 2023, 10:36 AM

please god no

just watch the original trilogy jfc 😭

[valid blaze]

luna stop paying attention to twitter

[fervent skiff]

yeah thats probably a good idea

[wary needle]

Funny how it still says Twitter at the bottom even after the name change

[fervent skiff]

lmfaooo ifkr

makes me happy inside

[fervent skiff]

i quit for like a month but i got sucked back in

i should blacklist it lmfao

[viscid sage]

i def think it couldve been done better

[torpid stag]

I think the more you overthink and try to force yourself to like it it could just wind up having the alternative effect lol. Sit on it and come back to it later when your head is in another space and you might start to see things click. Lot of last jedi haters did that.

[fervent skiff]

i mean i didnt like TLJ when i first saw it

[torpid stag]

I did but I did have a weird feeling. Couldn't place it

I'm glad I didn't wind up on the cruddy side

[fervent skiff]

i had that weird feeling during the earlier ahsoka episodes

[torpid stag]

Now I love it

[fervent skiff]

but it kinda faded as i got twords the end of episode 3

[torpid stag]

And tlj is my fourth favourite star wars movie

[fervent skiff]

and i was actually liking episode 4 and where it was leading

this episode just felt like a huge detour for me

[torpid stag]

Well it was