Andor

[pure vale]

Syril was only ever serious when he throttled Dedra. Otherwise he’s a goofy lil shit the entire time

[cloud narwhal]

Yep

[vague cave]

The guy’s acting chops in the episode genuinely surprised me

[pure vale]

He is mall cop incarnate

[vague cave]

I do think he did realize what he was doing but at that point it really didn’t matter

[cloud narwhal]

Props to Kyle Soller genuinely

[vague cave]

If he hadn’t channeled all of his held in channeled rage at Andor he would have made it out alive 😭

[pure vale]

[vague cave]

There’s something eerily unsettling about seeing the comedic jokey fascist dude actually losing his marbles

[cloud narwhal]

Bro went straight to physical violence towards his girlfriend after feeling slighted

Average conservative boyfriend

[vague cave]

💀

I am excited to see what they do with Deedra in the final arc

This definitely puts her in a quite interesting position

[cloud narwhal]

She’s probably extremely mentally unstable

[vague cave]

Just a tad

[pure vale]

You just hate a successful woman

[vague cave]

Girl boss

[forest quest]

I’m glad the droid was left behind. He be too emo.

[pure vale]

Boooo

[vague cave]

Bix and B2 Spin Off series

[glossy cove]

https://tenor.com/view/andor-cassian-andor-andor-shoots-gun-gif-13711448363746166758

[vague cave]

https://tenor.com/view/kafrene-horse-horse-alert-horse-meme-mon-mothma-gif-2622582715645444696

[pure vale]

She’s not a horse!

[vague cave]

Mon realized after Return of the Jedi that the pixie haircut was not it

[forest quest]

It’s funny how people are going crazy about the Bail recast because “you’d be going from Smits to Bratt to Smits” when we already have Genevieve to what’s her face to Genevieve

[pure vale]

There’s like a fuck ton of recasts anyway

[solemn pumice]

Geneveive has pretty consistently played mothma since rots though. It's a kinda hard companion. Especially since her role is pretty minimal in the ot

Like you only get one instance of her not being mothma

[vague cave]

I’d take a hundred recasts over a CGI model

https://tenor.com/view/say-what-repeat-can-you-gif-24756832

[solemn pumice]

But its actually fucking wild that they had a actor who literally looks like mark and sounds like luke would.
Then just threw a shitty ai deepfake on him that barely even looked or sounded like mark

Like bro this is literally luke skywalker

[pure vale]

The real lesson is you can’t recast Harrison ford. Other people it’s possible

[vague cave]

https://tenor.com/view/han-solo-im-solo-han-solo-song-star-wars-gif-25851094

[forest quest]

I have a friend who five years ago said he wouldn’t wanna see Luke go from Hamill to someone else to Hamill in the timeline, or Han go from Ehrenreich to Ford to Ehrenreich to Ford because “continuity”

[forest quest]

I thought Ehrenreich did a great job as a younger Han who has yet to become more cynical

Also Dial of Destiny should’ve recast Indy for the intro. They had Ingruber right there

[vague cave]

The wonders of beard dye and anti aging cream

[solemn pumice]

I don't mind the stuff in dial of destiny cause it was still Harrison there mostly and it was pretty short overall.
But extended scenes like with Luke should just be a full recast

[pure vale]

I have yet to see any onscreen actor get ford right. Only Troy’s voice

[solemn pumice]

I think Ehrenreich at least was able to capture the vibe and tone of han. Even if he couldn't perfectly mirror ford

[pure vale]

Okay and Abed

[vague cave]

We’ve waited 19 decades to see Glover come back as Lando

https://tenor.com/view/lando-donald-glover-star-wars-gif-10999514

[solemn pumice]

At least his lando movie still on the table

[forest quest]

Is that still happening? I don’t even know anymore if it’s a movie or show

[solemn pumice]

Its a movie.
The show version was cancelled. Which lead to people getting confused when the director started talking about lando no longer happening

Basically it's on the shelf until everybody schedules clear up.

Which is basically the same for taika film.
And maybe Ryan's. But that's at like, the very back of the shelf

[cloud narwhal]

https://open.spotify.com/track/6YWGk79rPyHb9BKX2UwFkp?si=JqGd1SpbRFKXy8hCiYaUtw&context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A05B5E1D6Sm5UBIPtJJUCVr @thin raft

[fluid phoenix]

Aww I would've preferred a show

[thin raft]

and even then he throws away any hope at redemption because he’s so unable to take accountability for his role in what’s unfolding around him that the moment he sees andor it just reaffirms all his delusional beliefs from the past several years and he immediately has the perfect thing to shift the blame

such good writing

im also glad he didnt get a redemption

[cloud narwhal]

My take is that he is an example of the "But I just wanted cheaper gas" people

Their ignorance is irredeemable

[fluid phoenix]

I love that he doesn't say a word and you immediately know what he's thinking

It's not just that he's mad, he's ready to shift blame

[cloud narwhal]

It's so fitting because from the start he shifted blame onto Cassian for everything that happened to him

to the point where it became an unhealthy obsession to find him

[thin raft]

and cassian’s “who are you” while syril had been thinking of him nonstop was perfect icing on the cake

the last thing he knew was that the guy he had been obsessing over for years didnt think twice about him

[cosmic marlin]

You think cassian ever wakes up in the middle of the night thinking “wait actually who was that guy???”

[glossy cove]

Canon

[royal flume]

syril defenders trying to explain how he was actually doing deep soul searching in his final moments after hearing "who are you?" and could've possibly joined the rebellion if he wasn't shot:

[cosmic marlin]

He’s not even thinking about Bix in his final moments that’s how dedicated he is to Syril

[vague cave]

Syril’s arc is going to be real fun to rewatch

[vague cave]

He would have never joined the rebellion 😭

[glossy cove]

I love the fact that this implies that Syril wasn't going to defect because of the genocide he participated in, but because Cassian didn't know who he was.

[vague cave]

The only reason he would would be to give his miserable ass soul purpose

[cosmic marlin]

He wouldn’t have joined the rebellion, but I was kind of thinking he would’ve helped the ghormans, and I feel like he honestly might have if he never saw cassian,

[vague cave]

We see constantly that it’s not even always about what he’s doing but rather that he is seen as important

[royal flume]

i think the argument is that he hesitated after hearing it because he was wondering just who exactly he was and what he was fighting for
as if he's smart enough to actually do that

[vague cave]

There was definitely some moment of realization no doubt

[glossy cove]

But still, the fact that people focus on that moment and not the one where he's taking what he's done is goofy.

[vague cave]

The second he started choking Deedra I knew this was no goofy ass redemption 😭

[glossy cove]

As soon as he stalked Dedra there was no way this guy was getting redeemed

[pure vale]

We can’t choke people now? Fucking lame

[cosmic marlin]

Not in my empire. Darth Vader would never approve of this

[glossy cove]

Big difference between doing it in the bedroom and doing it while threatening someone

[pure vale]

“Not in public, dear”

[cosmic marlin]

The difference is in the bedroom Dedra is choking Syril not the other way around

[vague cave]

I’m glad it was the Ghorman Rebel leader that shot Syril

Bro got some victory in the midst of all the turmoil

😭

Crazy

[glossy cove]

"Babe, it's 4pm! Time for your pegging session!"

[thin raft]

if he killed her right there it would be the only good thing he did in the entire show

[fluid phoenix]

https://youtu.be/_taTdD7jIUc?si=3DPooZukb0faQ6Gd

[glossy cove]

https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/DJU8HYfu6Bn/?igsh=MWNxejM4Z2RwbzhtZQ==

I can't believe they confirmed every fan theory about them

[pure vale]

K2 is the droid equivalent of one of those really scary dog breeds

I will not be taking questions

[thin raft]

well they are big and scary

[fluid phoenix]

Okay but why do I want to make a parody tiktok account where I go full cosplay as an influencer explaining the latest imperial news to people

"So if you have not been following the situation in ghorman here's the run down"

[thin raft]

now why the fuck did i just start my day by listening to elegy for ghorman

is she stupid?

[thin raft]

i cant fucking stop thinking ab this show

god

[cloud narwhal]

The intro to episode 8

[forest quest]

I think about it when I eat. I think about it when I sleep. I think about it when I shit.

[cloud narwhal]

I still find it hilarious how Melshi got introduced back into the show like a goddamn Marvel character

[thin raft]

glup shitto i fucking guess

[cloud narwhal]

I'd say he is Andor's only glup shitto because he was quite literally just a randmo ass character in Rogue One

he wasn't really important

[pure vale]

When character comes back(my immersion is ruined)

[thin raft]

id say the show has more than earned a couple glup shitto moments like that

[cloud narwhal]

He's just the one that extracts Jyn from the work camp and leads part of the Rebel attack on Scarif

[thin raft]

it would feel cheap if the rest of it wasnt so fucking good

[cloud narwhal]

I like that he actually gets some more agency

[thin raft]

same

[cloud narwhal]

especially during the Narkina 5 arc

[thin raft]

god dammit andor even does glup shitto cameos right

[cloud narwhal]

It doesn't detract or distract from the story

[thin raft]

what have you done with my star wars…

[cloud narwhal]

I just find it funny how this nothing Rogue One character actually gets some good writing

I love how now we know that Cassian and Melshi were buddies from jail while I watch the final battle of Rogue One

[fluid phoenix]

Is melshi the mustache guy?

[cloud narwhal]

Yeah

[fluid phoenix]

I thought he was the same dude

[cloud narwhal]

Him

[fluid phoenix]

Oh no wait I don't know him

[cloud narwhal]

He was at Narkina 5

Escaped with Cassian

Then Cass gave him Syril's blaster

and told him to split up with him so more people hear about the prison

[fluid phoenix]

OHHHHH

THAT'S RIGHT I FORGOT ABOUT THAT ENDING MOMENT

I was wondering what the hell that scene was

FUCK YEAH DUDE

https://tenor.com/view/andor-maarva-ferrix-empire-fight-the-empire-gif-27160409

[thin raft]

unrelated but i love this freak on the left

[cloud narwhal]

Season 2 has a bit more aliens and little SW freaks

I like that

[thin raft]

there are so many TFA aliens

i even saw one of my favorite TROS glup shittos on yavin

side note i liked that saw was on d’qar for a bit

[cloud narwhal]

Yavin in general looks amazing in this show

[thin raft]

cool connection

[cloud narwhal]

It doesn't give you whiplash from how the rest of the show looks when you arrive

Also killer opening to episode 7 with the ship landing and revealing Base One

[thin raft]

badass bounty bot girl

[pure vale]

Where was she??

[cloud narwhal]

Dan and Tony talked about the Force healer scene and how they meant it as a moment where Cassian sorta felt his own death coming, and why he eventually accepts it in Rogue One

[pure vale]

That’s what I took from the scene as well. Or at least the healer could feel his fate

[cloud narwhal]

I like this being the only connection to the Force for the show

[solemn pumice]

AL1-L3 my beloved

[pure vale]

I like when people are sheltered/cut off enough that the force can be considered a myth

[solemn pumice]

She has no right the serve as hard as she does for a character that exclusively appears in the background of like 5 shots

[pure vale]

Common hide the best characters in the back SW L

[thin raft]

walking past inside the yavin hangar

not sure which ep

it may have been 7

[fading marten]

we got three fuckin days

[cloud narwhal]

I can't wait

Still thinking about how Rylaz asked Syril "what kind of a being are you?"

[safe berry]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-idiot-sandwich-angry-mad-what-are-you-gif-4169547

[cloud narwhal]

Not a lot of people talk about his performance in that epsiode he was going through it and it was perfect

The despair in that man's eyes and voice

[fluid phoenix]

I love that it's a mix of not understanding how he can be this stupid and this heartless

Either way he's impossible to truly understand for anyone with any understanding of basic empathy

[cloud narwhal]

I’m just so glad he didn’t get redeemed

It solidified Syril as one of the best Star Wars villains ever

Because how unconventional he is as a villain

[cloud narwhal]

Yes Britell is the goat and would have made a killer soundtrack for this season

https://open.spotify.com/track/6osSiOO2dyiqWswrtr8GHv?si=737321a8dc8b4ce0

But this fucks

This too

https://open.spotify.com/track/0DHicAzzANCvBgSug6gERE?si=78b42f453d4b4a9f

[thin raft]

my fears were alleviated

roberts’ work is pretty great

The Messenger

[cloud narwhal]

I’m glad the only connection to The Force is people who are in tune with the Force can feel that Cassian matters and his destiny is important

He isn’t a “chosen one”

But he’s way more than your average Rebel hero

[thin raft]

wasnt expecting any sort of force sensitivity in this show but i cant imagine a better way to incorporate it

such a beautiful way of writing the force

god

GOD

[cloud narwhal]

She felt him dying eventually and he did too

[cloud narwhal]

Him being called a Messenger actually made me sob

[thin raft]

just a confirmation of what he already knew. that he’s going to die doing this

gives so much more weight to his final moments in rogue one

god

watching rogue one after this show is gonna hurt me

[cloud narwhal]

I’m also glad Luthen’s theme was back when he was talking about how Cassian was always there when he or other people really needed him

It goes back to Maarva saying how he’ll be an unstoppable force for good

[forest quest]

Still laughing about how Syril died

[sweet owl]

Syril reminds me of this moment from The Venture Brothers

[glossy cove]

What a goated show

https://tenor.com/view/hank-venture-bros-hump-day-gif-23232354

[sweet owl]

https://tenor.com/view/brick-frog-venture-brothers-team-venture-skills-gif-17662401

[pure vale]

Same vibes

[fluid phoenix]

Admittedly it's hard to talk to people who know nothing about star wars about this because I'll be like "bro it's so good, there's like this mass murder scene that's so scary"

[solemn pumice]

Isn't this just how star wars fans regularly talk

Especially prequel fans

[fluid phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-tfatws-daniel-bruhl-baron-helmut-zemo-fair-gif-22026720

[forest quest]

I wonder what someone I know who disliked Rogue One because he thought it meant Star Wars fans want Michael Bay would think of Andor

I think he stopped watching new Star Wars, so we’ll never know

[fluid phoenix]

I'm glad I stopped talking to star wars fans irl

[pure vale]

What does RO have to do with Michael bay?

[forest quest]

He figured since people’s favorite part was the action toward the end that fans would want more of that

[fleet pagoda]

Why isn't it Tuesday already

[unreal veldt]

Last Andor Tuesday

[vague cave]

Shhh cherish it in a week we will be wishing we had Andor again on Tuesday

[cloud narwhal]

I realised Andor didn’t make me want to have all of Star Wars like it but have SW media that have an air of maturity to their stories

Recently I’ve been enjoying Jedi Fallen Order a lot

Cal’s trauma is so well portrayed in Fallen Order

[cloud narwhal]

Another thing I like is the sorta on-the-fly explanation as to how the Axis Network was largely unknown by the other Rebel cels by them simply working completely covertly and mostly just supplying the cels who were openly fighting the Empire

It makes it feel way less jarring once you put Rebels into perspective

[cloud narwhal]

I hope at least Vel survives because it would be a cool little lore detail that Mon Mothma’s cousin is essentially the Alliance’s drill sergeant

[forest quest]

I hope Cassian survives. Dude’s been through hell.

[pure vale]

Lil

[cloud narwhal]

Writing so good even Syril’s blaster goes through a character arc

[cloud narwhal]

Bix went through hell and then sacrificed her relationship for the cause

[cloud narwhal]

There’s people saying their headcanon is that the K2SO comic are his implanted memories and what Draven claims was his origin so people don’t know he was part of the massacre

[fluid phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-want-to-play-with-you-anymore-toy-story-i-dont-wanna-play-with-you-anymore-dont-wanna-play-no-more-play-gif-26906930

[cloud narwhal]

Similar to how in S1 they explained the change of Cassian’s homeworld from Fest to Kenari as Maarva submitting fraudulent information

[pure vale]

Step Brothers: A Star Wars story

[forest quest]

I thought of using implanted memories idea but the comic events really can still fit if we assume K-2 was regained by the Empire and had his kill switch moved to his butt, and then Cassian ran into him again

[pure vale]

So he sat down and put a fanfic in is head

[cloud narwhal]

Yes

[forest quest]

In the comic Cassian never says he’s meeting K-2 for the first time iirc

He asks what model he is after seeing the updates on him and he says he’s K-2SO

[pure vale]

Mind you, one that still has K2 with remaining violent tendencies

[forest quest]

Next episode gonna begin with Cassian being like, “What a strange year we’ve had, Kay-Two. You joined us, then the Empire got you back, then I ran into you again, and now you’re with us again.”

[cloud narwhal]

Tony could be slick and write some dialogue in passing about it lmao

he already did it with Cassian's home planet

[forest quest]

#ReleaseTheSwierczynskiCut

[cloud narwhal]

I still subscribe to the implanted memories and Alliance propaganda headcanon

[forest quest]

I don’t. I want it to be real.

I want Star Wars to be real

[forest quest]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-starwars-google-translate-anakin-obiwan-gif-2345103538734108180

[fluid phoenix]

I wanna print that out and frame it

[cloud narwhal]

Seeing Eedy cry was also genuinely heartbreaking

Andor makes me feels sad for horrible people

https://tenor.com/view/nine-sols-nine-sols-yi-yi-nine-sols-gif-17411584743591462044

[pure vale]

“This was your aunt and grandma”

[cloud narwhal]

In an alternate universe Dedra, Syril and Eedy are a weird freak little family

[pure vale]

What’s that recent movie about Nazis who live near Auschwitz? Imagine that as a comedy with these three

[cloud narwhal]

Syril and Dedra sitcom

[pure vale]

Everybody Loves Syril

[fluid phoenix]

Zone of Interest?

[pure vale]

I think that was it

[forest quest]

For Mother’s Day we remember Syril and his mom

[cloud narwhal]

Syril would have been a great mother if he didn’t die during pregnancy

[forest quest]

Padme would’ve been a good mother if she didn’t die from becoming a mother

[pure vale]

Kids, amirite?

[thick lava]

I had a dream last night about the next episodes where Cassian, Willrow? Willow? Bomb kid, and Vel were ambushed by an explosion caused by an imperial payed assassin who then brutally killed the two and then proceeded to cut up Cassian’s back with what I think was a box cutter and then it ended halfway through the dream

I think the assassin smashed open on of their heads like a pumpkin

Or like Perfect Cell did in Gohan’s dream in dbza

[glossy cove]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-cell-fire-writing-perfect-writing-perfect-cell-writing-writing-perfect-cell-gif-1175096398989648261

[pure vale]

Gonna tell my kids this was Luthen and Cassian

[safe berry]

His tie flight suit looked just like that

[toxic wolf]

I have to talk about how andor made an already fantastic moment from alphabet squadron hit way harder than it already did.

(Incredibly light spoilers for the book) ||this character named chass who's really depressed and spent alot of her life on the streets abd in cults, one time ran into a woman who saved her from some thugs. Not intentionally, she just happened to also be fighting them for similar street rat reasons. Later, chass sees a holovid with that same woman- giving a speech to the rebel alliance about how they can't give into the oppression the deathstar would condemn the galaxy too, saying "rebellions are built on hope". Seeing jyn died on that mission after that speech inspired chass to join the alliance. Knowing that was indirectly because of the ghorman hotel guy i just- holy fuck||

[solemn pumice]

You know, I kinda fuck with the idea that the cassian/K2SO comic was a cover story for how cassian found the droid.
Since you know, having a droid that helped in a massacre probably wouldn't be a good thing optics wise and they need an excuse for where cassian was and how he found the droid. Since they didn't log his leaving

Kinda like how the listed home planet for cassian in the rogue one visual dictionary was retconned into being a cover

[cloud narwhal]

I saw someone say it’s implanted memories + Draven’s cover story

[glossy cove]

Just saw a SW explained video about this stuff

https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/DJfAof-u-h9/?igsh=MXI5MzB5MXNhMmo2YQ==

starwarsexplained (@starwarsexplained)

This fixes the K2-SO retcon from Star Wars Andor season 2 👀 definitely my new head canon 🤷

▶ Play video

InstaFix

[forest quest]

Why does nobody like my idea that K-2 got recaptured by the Empire and then Cassian found him again? 😭

[pure vale]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-i-like-this-one-marvel-gif-15769000

[cloud narwhal]

Because it sucks

[forest quest]

https://tenor.com/view/strongly-disagree-gif-5567843869441789696

[cloud narwhal]

One is a pointless sidequest, the other is a cool and unique idea, literally coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb

[forest quest]

Not pointless; fun

[fading marten]

pointless

[cloud narwhal]

The story is the same but the former fits more with the tone and style of story Andor is

[forest quest]

So what? I can have fun watching a comedy show one day and then get chased by someone cursing me out trying to kill me with rocks the next day

The world of Star Wars isn’t just one tone, and it’s not like the tone of the comic is that vastly different

[cloud narwhal]

Is your entire life dedicated to just being a contrarian

[forest quest]

Anyway we’re not gonna agree I guess so it’s whatever

No lol

[cloud narwhal]

Doesn’t seem like it to me

[forest quest]

I loved last week’s episodes like everyone else did. That doesn’t seem very contrarian

[cloud narwhal]

What she should have done

[glossy cove]

THAT WAS SPIDER GUY?

[cloud narwhal]

Y…yea

[glossy cove]

For some reason I forgot that's who he was when he wasn't shooting Cinta

Feeding Syril's Spider addiction

[unreal veldt]

Last Andor eve

[cloud narwhal]

After this it’s just Fallout season 2 keeping me from ending it all

[safe berry]

Right as you're tying the rope Denis drops the teaser for Dune Messiah

https://tenor.com/view/noose-moe-szyslak-not-today-old-friend-the-simpsons-gif-15987627

[glossy cove]

https://youtube.com/shorts/fRcqw2yZ45Y?si=64TDLoykaFJHDx0E

[vague cave]

This goes absolutely fucking insane

[glossy cove]

I fuck with these posters

[unreal veldt]

Dedra is so dying on the Death Star

[thin raft]

need the mon one on my wall

[glossy cove]

THEY'RE DOING THAT 9/11 THING

[unreal veldt]

WITH ROBERT PATTINSON IK WHAT UR TALKING ABOUT

[cloud narwhal]

I am so glad I only now started putting Star Wars decorations in my room and on my uni bag the majority of them are Rebellion/Resistance/New Republic themed

[vague cave]

One more day until Luthen dies

💀💀💀

[vague cave]

So real

I love the parallel posters

They did the same with Bix and Syril last week

[fluid phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/showme-show-me-morpheus-gif-5144220

[thin raft]

found this on pinterest the other day. tinkled a little bit

oh wait this is part of a larger spread

i must find the rest

[fluid phoenix]

I was gonna say it looks like only the O in the logo

[fluid phoenix]

Ohoho it'll be so easy to remove the logos to print them out

[thin raft]

the bix one… oughh

[cloud narwhal]

I need to print the main poster and the Bix one

Also unironically my favourite version of the main theme is from S2 episode 3

https://open.spotify.com/track/2qcka9OlQWaPXcyOsDxLcf?si=XvNbN-cPQXiu4HQ1ImXsgQ

[vague cave]

https://youtu.be/8JiIriDZy3g?si=qdsUgrK-3q7Jd5Lh

“When truth leaves us, when we let it slip away, when it is ripped from our hands, we become vulnerable to the appetite of whatever monster screams the loudest”

🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

Tony Gilroy cooked

[cloud narwhal]

https://open.spotify.com/track/7DvQHlkfzC7tYwrifz69J2?si=EKm325PWTvS2Qpg1-x0B7A

Ngl so did Brandon Roberts

I retract everything I said about the composer change

He kinda cooked on his end

[safe berry]

Idk who made these pieces for season 1 but I've always fucked heavy with the aesthetic

[fluid phoenix]

God it's so good seeing a star wars project that feels timeless in it's message and vibes

[unreal veldt]

I knew he cooked since his Niamos remix

[cloud narwhal]

Mom Mothma

Mon Mothmom

[pure vale]

Moth Mother

[vague cave]

https://tenor.com/view/syril-mother-you're-dripping-andor-s2-gif-15979147548238213882

[sweet owl]

This is a necessary sacrifice, Cassian. So that we might qualify for the Emmys.

[thin raft]

you can kiss that goodbye

[forest quest]

24 hours before we get the last episodes of peak and then have nothing to watch on TV for the rest of eternity

[royal flume]

tv ends after tomorrow night. pack it up guys, time to give up. we already have peak

[pure vale]

Group suicide on Wednesday

[fluid phoenix]

Be there or be square

[pure vale]

[sweet owl]

Andor has seen Gorman's fate before...mass murder and genocide, strip mining, absolute environmental devastation.

[thin raft]

well fuck

fuck

[sweet owl]

That's basically the text I got from my brother when I sent him that thought.

[cloud narwhal]

Rewatched episodes 7-9

Bix and Cassian's theme being in the credits of episode 9 was like twisting the knife that was already piercing my ribs

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/818911682914943027/1185450440888942622/mourning.gif?ex=658fa7c1&is=657d32c1&hm=7ec42bb71a3e75336b0ff131d1cb5009710f926c18c2ffab10b2c5d81218ff23&

[sweet owl]

Saw these on Facebook while doom scrolling, so dumb I had to share them.

[cloud narwhal]

https://x.com/i/status/1921940842371051634

Shitpost Ben (@shitpostben) on X

X · May 12, 2025, 2:49 PM

[fluid phoenix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvkpcedAtXs&ab_channel=StarWars

[forest quest]

Just several more hours until we all die

[vague cave]

I would actually lose my mind if somehow Deedra redeemed herself

Feels like she’s way too far from the rabbit hole

[glossy cove]

I hope so

I feel like we've already seen the only Imperials that will defect in the show in Season 1, and they're all dead

[thin raft]

disney executives realized what they were producing and rewrote the finale themselves

[pure vale]

“I’m…sorry 🥺”

[fluid phoenix]

what if she goes running in with a blaster and fights all the isb agents but then cassian teleports her a lightsaber and she sacrifices herself to save him

[thin raft]

her and cassian have a dyad in the rebellion that partagaz sucks out of them to gain a fancy red imperial uniform

fortunately cassian defeats him because he is all the rebels

[forest quest]

Last minute Andor prediction

By this final arc, he has a kid sidekick

But then the kid sidekick dies

[thin raft]

https://tenor.com/view/punisher-no-no-no-tanklorde-gif-25785566

[thin raft]

oh phew

[forest quest]

And it unites Star Wars fans because on one hand real life death bad, on the other hand kid sidekicks in Star Wars getting old

[fluid phoenix]

Aside from omeegah what other kid sidekick characters have there been?

[pure vale]

A clone of you

[glossy cove]

Tweaking because there is a Red Imperial Uniform from Legends

[unreal veldt]

On this day 10 years ago, Diego Luna was announced to be in Rogue One

[fluid phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/midget-dr-evil-austin-powers-dancing-dance-gif-5137925

[forest quest]

Ahsoka, Ezra, Grogu, Leia…

What’s his face from Tales of the Underworld

[fluid phoenix]

Still haven't seen tales of the underworld

Ahsoka I guess but it's been so long it's hard to see her that way

Grogu is more a baby than a child

Leia is fair but she was more an extended cameo

And Ezra is kinda the main character more than a sidekick

[cloud narwhal]

K2SO is a kid

[forest quest]

I guess you’re right. There should be more kid sidekicks in Star Wars

[pure vale]

He just hit puberty hard

[forest quest]

Think anyone’s gonna watch Rogue One right after these episodes and say it pales in comparison?

[pure vale]

I predict we’re gonna see people bitch about everything for a year because it’s not Andor

[solemn pumice]

People were doing that anyway

[pure vale]

Yeah and it’s annoying

[forest quest]

I’m really upset that Young Jedi Adventures isn’t Andor

[solemn pumice]

Andor wishes it was that good

[forest quest]

Andor wishes it had Nubs

[cosmic marlin]

Andor is Nubs

[forest quest]

At this point the name Andor makes me think more of the show and its world in general than Cassian Andor himself

[vague cave]

LOL

[unreal veldt]

I just wanna say that before the series ends, this has been one of the most beautiful shows as of recent, both in cinematography, writing and acting

[forest quest]

Had something I was supposed to do at 6 for an hour but it got cancelled so now I can watch Andor live!

[pure vale]

Stone and Sky

[forest quest]

FFS after I sent that the thing that got scheduled is back on again

If there is a god they have a twisted sense of humor

[unreal veldt]

Stone and Sky

[forest quest]

Stone and/or sky

[unreal veldt]

I will be normal about this finale

[sweet owl]

LET'S GO!

Tooka cat!

[forest quest]

Bet

[unreal veldt]

Holy shit they brought back the starpath unit from the premiere

Is Luthen on fucking Mimban

[sweet owl]

Oh god...is she from Kenari too?

Or just another ravaged imperial world

[unreal veldt]

We talking about Kleya?

[sweet owl]

(yes)

[unreal veldt]

Nah I think she's from Mimban

Bunch of mud trooper uniforms

[sweet owl]

Okie dokie

[unreal veldt]

Hopefully we get a Kenari mention tho

[forest quest]

Is this ET’s species?

[unreal veldt]

Looked like it

[sweet owl]

I don't think she's there to Rescue Luthan T_T

[thin raft]

guys fuck

just finished the ep but i have to wait until tmrw for the last two

aaaauuueeeeghhh

time to mute this channel

https://tenor.com/view/andor-ill-find-you-i-will-find-you-ill-look-for-you-cassian-andor-gif-27140039

[solemn pumice]

You should instead go to gaming and be mentally ill about jedi survivor

[thin raft]

YES MAAM!!!!!!

[forest quest]

Something I realized is Andor is a show where they can get away with not showing the main character for a long period of time or even for an episode. Something The Book of Boba Fett could not.

[unreal veldt]

Diva Krennic is back

[forest quest]

I guess with TBOBF it didn’t help that it was at the cost of having a different show main character take space

[glossy cove]

One episode down

Three to go

Two

lmao

[unreal veldt]

TBOBF relied on another show to prop itself up, Andor built it's supporting cast and made them interesting enough that they can hold a whole episode on their own without their title character

[sweet owl]

K2 my boy it's good to see you being a brat again

[unreal veldt]

I honestly cannot get over K-2's eyes

[fluid phoenix]

was that an et alien at the hospital

[forest quest]

I wondered that

It’s kind of different enough to not be but I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what they wanted to imply

“Are you with us?”
“No.”

Peak cinnamon

Well. One more episode and then we’re gone

Also is there a chance K-2SO and Jyn Erso are related? Both their names end with “so.”

[sweet owl]

Absolute

[forest quest]

K-2 used a gun? Guess this show sucks now.

So this Saw message to Mon Mothma has gotta be after the Rebels season 4 episode he’s in

Benjamin Bratt showing up for a split second looked like Jimmy Smits to me

I also like that Mon Mothma has gotten a haircut. Kinda thought Genevieve would stick to the fancier moon but they did well with continuity here given how she looks in Rebels and Rogue One

So do these episodes really take place a year before Rogue One or is it closer?

Honestly didn’t have Raddus on my Andor bingo card for some reason

[glossy cove]

One last one

[unreal veldt]

Kafrene mention

[fluid phoenix]

At the end now

[forest quest]

B2!

That stuttering…is DJ in this?

BABY!

This arc was definitely more of a denouement to the series and a prequel to Rogue One

Like the previous arc was the finale and this was the interlude between big arcs of a comic book series

I do kind of wonder if the momentum was slightly hurt by having to dovetail into Rogue One

Wow didn’t expect the Star Wars fanfare in the credits

[unreal veldt]

Cause Rogue One is missing it's own

[solemn heath]

It sounds so similar to the one in Rouge Squadron

[forest quest]

The movie?

[solemn heath]

No the games

[forest quest]

I’m gonna say it

Rebels had a better series finale

[sweet owl]

It did, but this was nice enough.

https://tenor.com/view/metroid-samus-aran-animated-speedrun-terminal-montage-the-baby-gif-17219533

Headcanon. The Baby's name is Brasso.

[forest quest]

Hug?

Oh wait I’m thinking of abrazo

So after watching this show

Seeing Cassian kill broken arm guy in Rogue One is actually funnier

It’s also funny because Cassian leaves Yavin dramatically at the end of the series and then its not very long before he’s back

Jimmy Smits is back!

Also Mon Mothma’s face kinda thinner

Ngl I was kind of expecting more from the Cassian and K-2 friendship on the show

[unreal veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/mon-mothma-andor-letterboxd-gif-7271074114648716522

Loved it omg

Why am I crying it's literally not that serious

[forest quest]

Oh is Andor actually on Letterboxd?

[unreal veldt]

No sadly

If they do include TV it's only limited series

[forest quest]

The language of the cinematography flows pretty seamlessly from Andor to Rogue One

I think A New Hope is gonna be kinda jarring

[sweet owl]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/452666880252051457/1371948535695671356/Screenshot_20250513-163234.png?ex=6824fe24&is=6823aca4&hm=9e0abebaf2af89bcb94ef98fb72b594765517fb45cf1b8a3daac23824c4b4729&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=575&height=641

[forest quest]

Ngl I just quoted Happy Gilmore elsewhere mere seconds ago

“Right. And Grizzly Adams had a beard.”

[sweet owl]

Shit, this is supposed to have been in the meme room...I feel dumb

[forest quest]

It’s Star Wars related I guess

I hated when they replaced Abe Lincoln with Hayden

[glossy cove]

Finished it all

[forest quest]

This Bor Gullet scene really highlights how similar Saw and Vader kind of are

Ugh this Dr Evazan and Ponda Baba moment sucks. It would never have happened on Andor.

This little crying girl Jyn saves for sure dies during the Death Star test in Jedha

[glossy cove]

Thanks Laughing Fox

[forest quest]

Oh has Laughing Fox pointed that out before?

[glossy cove]

I meant the sticker lmao

[fluid phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/its-beautiful-orson-krennic-star-wars-gif-27444911

I'd be lying if I said I didn't think the baby was kinda tacky

But otherwise perfect

[sweet owl]

It's nice to see Deedra Meero finally get ON PROGRAM

[fluid phoenix]

She got what was coming to her

I love that every imperial suffered at the hands of the empire's creations

[forest quest]

The baby scene kind of reminded me of Planet Terror

[fluid phoenix]

K2 holding Heert up as a human shield was

Nemik's manifesto pushing Partagaz to straight up shoot himself in the head

[forest quest]

So was Cassian lying in Rogue One when he’s in the prison cell and he tells Chirrut “This is a first for me”?

[solemn heath]

I thought she was about to kills herself there

[thick lava]

she definetly did

[fluid phoenix]

I hope she worked herself to death

[solemn heath]

She probably became the Kino Loy of that floor

[fluid phoenix]

Even when they had her in jail she still felt the need to prove her loyalty to the empire

This show was perfect at showing irredeemable villains who still had depth

[solemn heath]

I think if they did caught Kleya then Dedra might not have been sent to prison like that

But since the whole thing got fucked up then everyone got screwed

[glossy cove]

I mean, its the first time Rebels capturing him put him in a real cell

[glossy cove]

https://tenor.com/view/polka-dot-i-hope-so-gif-22646943

[thick lava]

Pao spotted

Pao spotted

[unreal veldt]

Pao spotted

[fluid phoenix]

Also I think they used actual rogue one shots for Saw and Krennic at the end

[thick lava]

screaming shark guy spotted

[fluid phoenix]

I could just be falling for it but they felt very specifically like different quality wise

[thick lava]

Paodok'Draba'Takat Sap'De'Rekti Nik'Linke'Ti' Ki'Vef'Nik'NeSevef'Li'Kek

was Luthen on Naboo in the last flashback?

[sweet owl]

That's what I was thinking.

[thick lava]

it looked like it

[solemn heath]

It was clearly Naboo

[thick lava]

also I thought I saw Bail in the backgound of that one too

[glossy cove]

Luthen going to Palpatine's Homeworld to do terrorism is a very Luthen thing to do

Peak honestly

I saw a Gungan Skull in Luthen's last exhibit
Haters will say its Jar Jar's

[safe berry]

Luthen probably would have killed Jar Jar

[solemn heath]

Not cause he was annoyed by Jar Jar but because Jar Jar is the reason Palpatine got emergency powers in the first place

[thick lava]

Jar Jar can't be killed

he is the key to all of it

[forest quest]

Yeah I wondered about that too actually

[sweet owl]

Jar Jar lives until the New Republic untill he dissapears. (probebly to Exegul )

[safe berry]

Cassian's kid is gonna appear in some sequel trilogy content now huh

[fluid phoenix]

My biggest fear

And a likely possibility

[forest quest]

Maybe he dies on Hosnian Prime

[solemn heath]

Guys what if he’s Snoke

[safe berry]

Andor Jr. discovers the secret of Starkiller base

[forest quest]

Andor Jr. in the same class as Jacen Syndulla

[solemn heath]

We get a sequel series

[sweet owl]

Cassian's kid grows old and has a big family and never does anything interesting or of note, the End.

[thick lava]

Jar Jar and his kids kill palpatine's sith spirit

[solemn heath]

And we get an in depth characterization of Phasma

Call it Andor Jr

[sweet owl]

Andor's grandson is kidnapped by the First Order and becomes this guy

[solemn heath]

We bring back Hux in S2 but make him fruiter then Krennic

[sweet owl]

https://tenor.com/view/storm-trooper-traitor-starwars-gif-15518569

[glossy cove]

Filoni ass writing

[fluid phoenix]

I hate that I knew where you were going with that

[solemn heath]

Guys guys

[sweet owl]

[solemn heath]

What if Andor Jr is actually Marrok

https://tenor.com/view/hello-greedo-confirmed-greedo-hg-star-wars-gif-27316732

[forest quest]

He’d be like 10-11 at that point

[solemn heath]

And?

[forest quest]

Or

[solemn heath]

He’s just a fart cloud

[thick lava]

Jar Jar

FUCKS

[forest quest]

What if he’s actually DJ

[solemn heath]

We’ve known Jar Jar fucks since clone wars season 6

[solemn heath]

Okay let’s get you to bed Dave Filoni

[forest quest]

Wolves and shit

[glossy cove]

This was known

She knows what the tounge do

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-jar-jar-binks-thumbs-up-agree-yes-gif-16164511

[thick lava]

he's got 3 kids so it's reoccurring

[solemn heath]

Do you think Jar Jat uses his tongue when he goes down on her

[glossy cove]

Yes

[solemn heath]

Like full length

[glossy cove]

Duh

[sweet owl]

Goofy has only fucked once, Jar Jar gets three.

[solemn heath]

Twice actually

[forest quest]

He’s had two sons

[solemn heath]

Oh right

Then 3 times

[forest quest]

Also there’s no way you’re telling me he didn’t get with Clarabelle and Sylvia

[safe berry]

BREAKING: Disney retcons Poe's origin story again, he's now the son of Cassian and Bix

shoots myself like Partagaz

[solemn heath]

https://tenor.com/view/knock-on-wood-bruno-encanto-disney-good-luck-gif-26409699

[forest quest]

I’d kms if that happened

Pretty cool that they cast the brother of Thrawn’s actor to play Galen Erso

[glossy cove]

Do you think Kleya and Vel are girlfriends now

[forest quest]

They have a couple letters in their names in common so they must be

[sweet owl]

We must resist the urge to ship them together...for now.

[forest quest]

Kinda weird watching Rogue One knowing Vader’s servant who appears for just a few seconds later becomes a head in a jar on a spider robot

[sweet owl]

Robo Shitto

[thick lava]

b2 got a friend

so what is the next series?

[forest quest]

Visions I think?

When does Maul: Shadow Lord come out?

[thick lava]

next year I think

[sweet owl]

Visions will be May the Fourth's series next year you think?

[thick lava]

that or another tales series

[forest quest]

I thought Visions comes out later this year

Yeah October 29

Better be spooky

[sweet owl]

Oh, yeah, visions.

Will we get a Tales series next year too ya think?

[forest quest]

Seems to be their May 4th tradition

[thick lava]

when was Ashoka season 2 supposed to happen?

[forest quest]

Tales of the Podracers when

They’re filming or starting filming soon so I think next year

I don’t expect it until after The Mandalorian & Grogu comes out

[thick lava]

so I guess this is it for a while then

that's fine

[forest quest]

It’s kind of fitting that Andor ended the evening before George Lucas’ birthday

[thick lava]

we must bake him 20,000 Jar Jar birthday cakes

[forest quest]

With tongue in 3D

[thick lava]

ah I remember watching 1 in 3D in theaters I missed part of it because my friend's mom was late

that was the first time I saw a Star Wars movie in theaters

the next time would be TLJ followed by TROS

[forest quest]

Krennic asking Jyn “Who are you?” and Jyn firmly explaining who she is hits harder after seeing Cassian direct the same question to Syril, who was so inept at answering the question and died in a funny way

[forest quest]

I’m on A New Hope and it really does feel like the weird one after going through Andor and Rogue One

[glossy cove]

https://www.threads.com/@jake.niemeyer/post/DJnx6gIubhF?xmt=AQF0kUZ8mXE_WoFHwREK7QelnS6tgh3A1iMbZnWJD3dhbw

[vague cave]

Most of the arcs take awhile to get going

And this one is just like fuck you we are going right into it

[cloud narwhal]

Absolutely perfect ending

I am so glad Wil, Vel and Kleya don't die

I also ABSOLUTELY love Kleya gets almost an entire episode dedicated to her

[finite turtle]

Vanee?

Huh

I guess he did become a robot spider

very on brand

How it started versus how it's going

[vague cave]

I was expecting somewhat of a Rogue One shitto fest and while there were a few it honestly wasn’t as bad as I thought it was going to be

[finite turtle]

I thought it was going to be a year before rogue one for some reason so I was very confused

[vague cave]

We got Rogue One to set up and show the events leading up to A New Hope and then Andor to set up and show the events leading up to Rogue One

https://tenor.com/view/george-lucas-its-poetry-rhymes-gif-19518899

[safe berry]

The most tragic death in the show was Mon Mothma's hair

[fleet pagoda]

I'm not crying, you're crying

[vague cave]

Thankfully it’s revived later on

[safe berry]

Restores the republic and immediately gets her drip back

[cloud narwhal]

Someone oughta shoot the Alliance barber

At least he shaved Melshi's head so he can be bald instead of the receding hairline

[vague cave]

I love it when shows end on subtle notes instead of big flashy action sequences

Lmao

[safe berry]

Melshi has gotta be the goat of human glup shittos

[vague cave]

I feel like a lot of shows I have watched have ended on subtlety recently, but I think it works in favor here as Andor was always a subtle show and also Andor’s “final” was always Rogue One

Me watching Rogue One after watching Andor

https://tenor.com/view/mon-mothma-andor-letterboxd-gif-7271074114648716522

[cloud narwhal]

Rogue One is gonna feel like another Andor arc at this point tbh

It's gonna be difficult watching it without Andor

[finite turtle]

Thought Dedra was gonna die, crazy that she just got on program

[cloud narwhal]

She probably built the pieces of the second Death Star kinda how Cassian built the ones for the first

[safe berry]

I wonder what happpened to Wilmon, I'm guessing he wasn't on Scarif cause he was injured

[cloud narwhal]

I hope he just became another Rebel spy like Cassian

[safe berry]

Lonnie is the unsung hero of Star Wars tbh

[cloud narwhal]

Lonnie and Kleya are like 90% of the Rebellion's power

[vague cave]

Bro gave it all just to be shot by Luthen 💀

Bail and Cassian talking about wanting to give the Empire hell before dying is highly ironic given they both die the exact same way

Within a mere few days

[safe berry]

The new actor did a great job but it's a shame Jimmy Smitts couldn't come back this was like the only opportunity for Bail to get any substance as a character 💀

I would be surprised if we ever saw the character again

[vague cave]

Considering there’s really not much more to tell with his character I definitely doubt it lmao

Luthen going out by accepting his own death and stabbing himself so the Empire wouldn’t torture and seek answers out of him was truly a goated move

[cloud narwhal]

So was Partagaz shooting himself once he realised he lost and couldn't contain the Rebellion, he finally understood Nemik's manifesto

[finite turtle]

This was the funniest shit for some reason

[fleet pagoda]

Krennic is terrifying

imho

[finite turtle]

True, but what was this move

[cloud narwhal]

I guess he lost his cuntiness because of the incompetence of his lackies

[vague cave]

Worst part of the episode was realizing Perrin was still alive

That shitter should have been shot in the head

[cloud narwhal]

"Behind every gay person there's s a more evil, more gay person"

[fleet pagoda]

omg

They're making a sequel to Rogue One

[vague cave]

Rogue Two

[fleet pagoda]

[cloud narwhal]

I had a feeling Dedra's final fuckup would have been her obsession with Luthen

[finite turtle]

Kid Andor? Andor Babies? Two Rogue Two One?

[fleet pagoda]

K-2SO is a gift from God

[cloud narwhal]

Him using Heert as a meat shield was so unintentionally funny

[finite turtle]

Loved the whole parade thing

[safe berry]

My headcanon is that Krennic and Partagaz explored each other's bodies so when the mf Kurt Cobain'd he lost his connection to the zest

[fleet pagoda]

They got Coruscant so well this season

I wasn't completely satisfied with it in Season 1

Looked... too pedestrian, not "Galaxy far far away"

I don't get that anymore in S2

The empire is actually scary in this show

Is K-2 CGI?...

He looks really REALLY good

[finite turtle]

when I was a teen watching rebels, I was convinced that Fulcrum was Bail Oriana

[cloud narwhal]

The shot of Melshi running with the soldiers is probably also him getting ready to extract Jyn from the labour camp

[fleet pagoda]

I haven't looked at a CGi character that looked this good since Davy Jones in Pirates 2 and 3...

[cloud narwhal]

I think he is part CGI part practical

depending on the shot

[fleet pagoda]

Right

[vague cave]

John Williams’ score plays in the credits

[cloud narwhal]

YEA YOU'RE RIGHT

Its the main theme

from ANH

But it's Either Britell or Brandon Roberts' cover

[fleet pagoda]

Diego Luna is hot

[cloud narwhal]

Me after every shot of him shirtless

https://tenor.com/view/wine-pasta-gif-20078563

[vague cave]

It’s like the score in the credits is reminding us that in spite of the darkness and sacrifices made it’ll pay off soon enough

[cloud narwhal]

Better use of the actiony version of the main Star Wars theme than in TROS

[fervent oracle]

Man

Pouring one out for Luthen Rael tonight

[cloud narwhal]

Cassian a real one for actually still caring about Luthen and Kleya even if he fully detached from the Axis Network

https://x.com/yoayyydrian/status/1922497655856369823

Adrian Manuel (@yoayyydrian) on X

Cassian when he hears Luthen and Kleya are in trouble #Andor

X · May 14, 2025, 3:42 AM

[vague cave]

Krennic telling Deedra to her face that she’s found the wrong calling and that’s she not needed was hilarious

[cloud narwhal]

She still ended up serving the Empire

just not in the way she thought

such a perfect and satsifying ending for her

I’m also satisfied with the explanation as to why the ISB stopped being relevant in the OT

Their entire leadership was wiped out an Military Intelligence basically took its place moving forward

The ISB became a shell of itself

[forest quest]

Like Ninja Turtles but without the turtles in the shells

[fleet pagoda]

I may have reasons to like Clone Wars more

But Andor is probably the best Star Wars ever made

Second only maybe to Empire Strikes Back

This freaking show has no right to be this good, wtf

[forest quest]

I think I prefer TCW because it feels like it has every shade of Star Wars

[fleet pagoda]

Yeah

May be the George touch

Still, this whole Andor/Rogue One saga is the best thing Disney has done with the property, by far

Makes me sour even more for the sequels :T

So many sacrifices, so many lives and unsung heroes to bring back justice to the galaxy

Except JK cause First Order

https://tenor.com/view/funny-head-banging-crazy-girl-anime-gif-3403247738823475896

[cloud narwhal]

PARTAGAZ USING THE COVER THAY KLEYA WAS INFECTED AND ESCAPED GOES BACK TO HIM SAYING HOW THE ISB ARE HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS THAT TREAT SICKNESSES BEFORE THEY SPREAD

Him listening to Nemik’s manifesto is him accepting that he failed spectacularly

The Rebellion had spread

They already lost

He’s smart enough to know the Death Star isn’t going to be enough to stop it at that point

He knew it was over before Krennic, before Tarkin, before Vader and the Emperor

[fleet pagoda]

||FUCKING SWINE, SON OF A MOTHERLESS GOAT!!||

[cloud narwhal]

Mf probably wasn't loyal to Mon even during their marriage look at how miserable they were together

[fleet pagoda]

As for Dedra... you know what? Serves her right

Watching Rogue One now

It has the same effect as Watching ROTS after watching CW

[cloud narwhal]

The only logical thing I can do after this is play Star Wars Dark Forces which is just the Legends version of Andor

[fleet pagoda]

Fantastic game

Still prefer the new story

I've been wanting to play Dark Forces as of late, actually

[cloud narwhal]

Yeah it's way better in canon with how the Death Star plans were stolen

I kinda don't like how it HAD to be Kyle Katarn who then becomes a Jedi and everything

still good series of games on its own

[fleet pagoda]

Indeed!

Also.. I don't dislike Tarkin in RO

never did

He looks fine

[cloud narwhal]

It's way more impactful and dramatic that a suicide mission of people who gave everything for the Rebellion was the thing that brought the Death Star plans to Leia

Also thinking if Brasso didn't cover for Kellen when the Empire did their audit, Bix couldn't go back to Mina-Rau to raise her and Cassian's kid since the Empire would probably crack down on him and anyone who was holding undocumented farm hands

[fleet pagoda]

Saw's death in RO hits so different after everything

All the way from Clone Wars

[cloud narwhal]

Saw has to be the most documented Star Wars sidecharacter of all time

Where's that one troll who joined here just to ragebait complain that B2 was just left on Mina-Rau

I bet he feels stupid about now

[solemn pumice]

Odd choice for them to focus on the mortis mural in luthens shop when they've entirely been a background piece.
Unless the show trying to imply that's where palpatine got them from

[cloud narwhal]

The ISB tac team looted everything from Luthen's shop so they could bring it to Thrawn

Only to find out bro got yeeted out the known Galaxy

Cause I assume the Battle of Lothal happens about the same time as the final three episodes of Andor/Rogue One

[solemn pumice]

Well the jedi temple on lothal was a palpatine thing.
Thrawn didn't give a shit, he just wanted his tie defender to be funded. So he went along with it all

Lothal liberation is 1bby

Apart of me kinda disappointed we went two seasons, with a heavy focus on the isb. And never once saw a isb agent

[fleet pagoda]

I cried after watching Rogue One now

[cloud narwhal]

I think everyone did

[solemn heath]

You know I realized

There’s a good chance that Dedra gets released after Yavin cause most of the ISB gets blown up

[solemn pumice]

Its more likely that the prison gets abandoned and she starves to death or is killed during following riots

[solemn heath]

We’ll find out in Tales of the ISB coming May 4th, 2028

[solemn pumice]

I'd want that only for kallus content

[solemn heath]

No he’ll be in Tales of the Gay Rebels coming the following year

[solemn pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[solemn heath]

No cause we need the Krennic Diva origin in Tales of the ISB

I need him to have a Diva off with Thrawn

[solemn pumice]

Isn't krennic origins largely in catalyst

[solemn heath]

When has that stopped Dave Filoni?

[solemn pumice]

Idk

I believe krennic was originally gonna be in rebels s4 though

Of all things sabine and jyn have canonically met

[cloud narwhal]

Yeah pretty much

How he met Galen

Them becoming friends

[solemn pumice]

Roommates even

[cloud narwhal]

The bitchslap he gave Galen on Eadu was personal

He left him for Lyra

There is no way the mf is straight

[solemn pumice]

I feel like thrawn would win the queen off though.
Purely because he had a twink and a old man on each arm.
And krennic only gay lover left him for a woman

[vague cave]

https://www.starwars.com/news/andor-season-2-world-building-production-design-feature

Explains all of the locations within Season 2 and how they were designed

[cloud narwhal]

I love how Cassian was technically drunk driving the U-Wing in episode 11

[vague cave]

Bro was drunk piloting

“You sound like Tarkin” 💅 🙄

https://tenor.com/view/krennic-director-krennic-orson-krennic-lucks-cantina-captain-luck-gif-24428455

[zinc sluice]

What does the drop of blood emoji mean 😭

[sweet owl]

That they're a vampire

[unreal veldt]

NO CASSIAN DON'T GO TO KAFRENE

[glossy cove]

The Ghost of Exar Kun watching the Death Star appear in orbit

https://tenor.com/view/willem-dafoe-gif-12955705329524728485

[forest quest]

So next year’s gonna be Tales of the Rebellion, right?

[glossy cove]

That would be cool

[vague cave]

I don’t want to think about it

This was it the end of StarWars

[sweet owl]

Next year is Grand Theft Auto 6

[glossy cove]

Thrawn when he finds out that the Antique dealer he bought Gree's helmet from was a Rebel spy all along

https://tenor.com/view/hank-schrader-shock-realization-realisation-gif-20454516

[solemn heath]

No it’s gonna be Tales of the Glup Shitto

We get shorts for Klaud and Selacious B Crumb

[solemn pumice]

Honestly I feel like the only reason thrawn not in the show outside of gilroy being cringe and not wanting shittos.
Is because he's like the one fucking dude in the galaxy who cares way too much for art and would clock luthen ass frame one

[glossy cove]

Pellaeon buys Gree's helmet from Luthen as a present

Honestly, that would be a more interesting interaction than Thrawn and Luthen

[solemn pumice]

I feel like that would be a eli gift. But pellaeon would be the only one of the three to actively visit coruscant

Though also eli would probably clock luthen as well

So yeah send pellaeon

[solemn heath]

Luthen’s shop the second Thrawn steps in

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-bomb-explosion-boom-gif-18347534567261621962

[glossy cove]

I wouldn't say Gilroy hates Glup Shittos, he's just actually capable of writing a story without having to dangle keys to keep Star Wars fans entertained

*he and his team

[fluid phoenix]

Honestly he seemed to work harder to fit canon while respecting his writers's creative visions than the majority of star wars tv creators these days

There were tons of nods, references, recurring characters, and work arounds with established plotlines. They just felt naturally incorporated as opposed to shoving a random jedi or bounty hunter from an animated series in a show at the end of an episode to get Twitter all apeshit

[glossy cove]

Yeah

It's going to suck going back to the Mandoverse style of writing for Glup shittos where its "remember this character?" and even if they do have a story it sucks

[cloud narwhal]

Then Rogue One has those two fucks from the cantina show up on Jedha

[fading marten]

what the fuck is this thing

whatever it is I vibe with him

[solemn pumice]

Okay but like, that literally rarely happens.
The only specific example I'd call key jingling is bane and luke in bobf.
Almost every other shitto in a live action show serves a purpose to the plot or a wider narrative. You can dislike their inclusion. But to act like its all the same in brain dead and bad faith

[glossy cove]

Venom Joowbear cameo?

[cloud narwhal]

I thought of the same thing

[thick lava]

best cameo

[fading marten]

He looks like my oblivion character lmao

fucker got no chin

[fluid phoenix]

The narrative is shaped around those moments though. The fabric of the show depends on slow drip feeding those characters so that people stay engaged. Boba Fett wouldn't have ever shown up in the middle of a mando episode, they needed him at the end. Anakin needed to show up in the last second of that Ahsoka episode for the sake of hype. And it's the same with how Bail steps out of the shadows in Rogue One with that pause for applause moment. Regardless of the larger story, it's bait for social media and theater hype.

[glossy cove]

I wouldn't include Bail in that lineup

[solemn pumice]

I fundamentally disagree with literally all of those except for bail.

[glossy cove]

Perfect contrasting example

Mon Mothma's role in Andor is like if Bo Katan was actually written well

[solemn pumice]

But also, like even being framed as a audience moment doesn't even remotely make it bad.
Boba fett was naturally built up towards across the first and second season.
Bo-katan has a natural reason to exist in the show, but you can just say you don't like her their. It doesn't have to be this big thing.
And I legitimately don't fucking get the anakin point. Unless you mean the last episode.
Because his appearance at the end of a earlier one was again, a fairly natural part of the plot and a end of episode stinger. You know. Something that's existed in the industry for decades.

Like you can literally just say you don't like a characters inclusion in a story. It doesn't have to be this deep fucking narrative that creatives are trying to hide from you

[glossy cove]

Like, I don't mind Bo in Season 2 but I mind when she becomes the main character out of nowhere in Season 3 because the writers got bored of Din

[solemn pumice]

But that's a separate issue

Also you're using very specific examples in the Mandalorian and bobf when ahsoka s1 does this incredibly well.
Mothma inclusion is fucking natural as hell.
You can argue C3PO was a point moment. But he also serves as a narrative replacement for leia. So her presence is still felt in the story without having to touch the shit of recasting or cgi zombie.
Fucking resistance dudes father.
All the returning rebels characters on lothal.
The fucking goat Carson
Like for the bad examples. There are good ones

FUCKING COBB VANTH IN THE MANDALORIAN AS WELL.
Dude like the first book character from the new canon to appear in live action

[glossy cove]

Still thinking about his final scene

So peak that he got everything he ever wanted only to find out that he's miserable

Honestly more satisfying than him being homeless or something

[cloud narwhal]

Same with Dedra

[fluid phoenix]

My problem isn't just that I don't like the characters being included, my problem is that Disney is reliant on that. I don't care whether or not people enjoy it, I care that it's a formula that is capitalized on to ensure the most amount of attention and money is made off of each project.

[cloud narwhal]

She got a fate worse than death

Which is such a good conclusion to her

[glossy cove]

Yeah

[solemn heath]

Honestly I still think there’s a chance she just gets rehired by the ISB since they got blown up so they need everyone they can get

[solemn pumice]

And i fundamentally disagree that that's even remotely the case or a reason why these characters get included.

Like capital is always a factor. But I do not believe it is a driving factor behind why some of these characters return

[solemn heath]

I feel kinda bad for him

I mean it looked like they were on the path to repairing their relationship and then Mon just shakes the entire galaxy and just leaves him

[fluid phoenix]

And I think that it doesn't matter, that's what they got. Creators aren't stupid, they don't just casually throw these hype moments in at key points with no awareness that that'll be the reaction. I fully agree that I think everyone involved with the majority of star wars projects under disney care about including these character because they just like them. I just think that Disney's driving factor when hiring these creators is making sure they're the type of fan who wants to make those moments happen. I think Gilroy and his team proved to be an exception, and I think in general Kennedy and other creators at Lucasfilm know that people like the Andor team deserve a shot just as much as anyone else. But there's only so much pull they have when every other week a new hype moment project drops and makes bank. Whether it's marvel, dc, minecraft, ghostbusters, whatever, it proves time and time again that people are here for those moments.

[glossy cove]

I think its interesting that when Perrin is starting to take more interest in her, that's when she leaves

I wonder if the show hadn't been trunkated, we would have been able to see that more

[sweet owl]

I'd be very interested in a comic series that fills in the gaps of the show.

[cloud narwhal]

Tony Gilroy comes back to make Andor 2 and retcons all of them

[solemn pumice]

But like, i still don't think that it really matters or is even remotely as common as people make it out to be. Especially when we talk in terms of sw and marvel, and dc in a state where you can't really say anything either way.
And i don't even think audiences broadly want it and executives know that, since like a lot of recent example of "key jingling" just don't work or result in anything.

Like the minecraft movie would be the only example. But I think that's a very specific case with the shitty memes

And also the fact marvel just don't fucking hire fans. And it's almost common place for actors and directors to shit talk superhero movies like they're beneath them. Despite working on them

[fluid phoenix]

I don't know what to say to you if you think that it's not prevalent when literally these projects break box office records all the time. Also I wouldn't apply Lucasfilm's process to picking creators to Marvel's process. I don't think those are fans cultivating those hype moments, I think that's purely executives.

I don't think every attempt at capitalizing on hype and nostalgia is always a guaranteed success, but it's a higher likelihood than projects without those moments.

They're also more likely to get marketing and advertising that guarantees that success.

[solemn pumice]

But I still don't even remotely think its working when stuff like marvel movie are notably making less and less, and recent ghostbuster movies are bombing or not doing amazing. Because a lot of shit just keep trying to capitalise on hype and nostalgia which just physically isn't there

Also not even getting into the fact most of the upcoming star wars stuff movie wise after mando and grogu are focused entirely on new characters, with likely little room for anybody known to appear.

Like I don't think anyone major can be in the ryan gosling movie.
Who the fuck could be in dawn of the jedi aside from huyang.
And taika film will probably be incredibly specific along with the new trilogy in the works

[fluid phoenix]

I think star wars films have been in production hell for a while because they struggled to figure out how to find the balance in the appeal of these types of stories. They found success in Mando, and ran with it through the next few shows and largely abandoned prioritizing movies. Now they're going back to it sure, but the first film being released is still a Mando movie. And yeah Marvel isn't doing as hot, but Deadpool and Wolverine literally just came out and was their fifth highest grossing movie, the 20th highest grossing of all time, and the highest grossing r-rated movie of all time. I don't disagree with the notion that patience for nostalgia is running thin among audiences, but it's still a safer bet for these studios than hoping a random new original movie will find an audience. It's been their philosophy for decades, and casual audience members are almost always going to pick a movie from a franchise they recognize that's getting massive positive reactions from Twitter over an indie film that gets great reviews but lack clear incentives for seeing it beyond that.

[forest quest]

I really hate that Deadpool & Wolverine made as much money as it did. I really do just see it as a nostalgiafest.

[fluid phoenix]

And I hope Andor is more proof that projects can just be successful cause they're well written. I want the cheap nostalgia movies to keep failing. But it's hard to hold out hope for that when most people don't care one way or the other.

[glossy cove]

I only liked it from the perspective of the Fox movies getting their time to shine after decades of neckbeards shitting on them

Like, I think it was a genuinely nice thing for the people making it to do

Which is why it's better than the second one

[solemn pumice]

I feel like deadpool and wolverine is a incredibly bad example to use, when it was guaranteed to do well anyway. And was specifically a passion project for ryan and Hugh

[glossy cove]

What examples is Circle supposed to use when you say every one is bad

[solemn pumice]

Idk fucking ghostbusters or 80% of the jurassic park films

[forest quest]

But like…everyone remembers Daredevil and Elektra movies were kinda bad, right?

[solemn pumice]

It wasn't really about whether or not the movies were bad

It was about the legacy the fox movies left and laid the groundwork for superhero movies

[forest quest]

I like how New Line is never brought up lol

The “only one Blade” line really rubs me the wrong way with how the Blade reboot has been in development hell

[solemn pumice]

I mean, its not like they knew when they wrote the joke
But also Wesley wasn't even the first live action blade

[glossy cove]

Jeremy Jahns is my favorite Blade

[forest quest]

He wasn’t? I know there was a TV show that came later

Yeah I think it was Snipes and then Sticky Fingaz

[fading marten]

So is Bix’s kid Cassian’s?

[cloud narwhal]

Yes

Most likely

[fading marten]

That’s good

[cloud narwhal]

That also gave Bix another reason to leave

[fading marten]

Andor S3 👀

[cloud narwhal]

Cassian would have never stayed at Yavin if he knew he was going to have a child

[fading marten]

That kid better fight in the Resistence

[cloud narwhal]

There's people already saying it's Poe Dameron 💀

[fading marten]

💀💀

[safe berry]

People were saying Rey was Jyn and Cassian's kid in 2016

https://tenor.com/view/george-lucas-its-poetry-rhymes-gif-19518899

[cloud narwhal]

God I hate this fandom

[fading marten]

I definitely do want a story about that kid

Cassian’s story is phenomenal

[cloud narwhal]

Give me Vol. 4 Brandon Roberts so I can listen to your cover of the main Star Wars theme

[glossy cove]

I'm beginning to understand why so much Star Wars media is just aura and hype moments

Critical thinking is dead in the Star Wars fanadom

[cloud narwhal]

Me when I heard the main theme in the credits of the final episode:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1125786406921457674/1326590918123323432/ezgif-1-9f49ae7926.gif

Andor makes the Empire's loss of the Death Star seem like even more of a blunder than it already was

They literally JUST finished constructing it and wanted to test it its existence was already leaked to the Rebel Alliance

[pure vale]

I need a gif of “I don’t like it here” please 🙏

[solemn heath]

I think if Bix stayed there was a chance that Cassian would’ve stayed with the rebellion but if he had a kid then he 100% would’ve left

[cloud narwhal]

I didn't expect to laugh my ass off from this show but "I've been counting the orders we've disobeyed so far, would you like to know how many?" "no" "seventeen"

That made me piss myself

[zinc sluice]

So is Bix's kid like John Andor or smth

[glossy cove]

Yes

That's his name

[pure vale]

Now it’s eighteen

[solemn heath]

No it’s Cassian Rouge One: A Star Wars Story

[cloud narwhal]

The speed and tone at which K2 responded was comedy gold

[pure vale]

Because K2 is the greatest comedian ever

[zinc sluice]

Bix's kid is Kyle Katarn

[cloud narwhal]

Alan Tudyk is a genius

[solemn heath]

Dedra reading the Death Star files

[pure vale]

https://tenor.com/view/small-hands-snl-kristen-wiig-gif-5000028

[glossy cove]

Should we feel bad for Lonnie?

Like, he definately had to die because he would have cracked the second the ISB found him

[cloud narwhal]

Absolutely bro was hardcarrying the Rebellion

[zinc sluice]

"But his age makes no sense" he's got special Katarn aging

[solemn heath]

Now I’m waiting for the K2 spinoff series K2 fast K2 serious that he promised

[glossy cove]

Yeah

[cloud narwhal]

And because he knew about Yavin

[glossy cove]

I imagine if the ISB leadership didn't completely collapse after Partigaz partigazed himself they would have found out how much their shit got rocked by him

[fluid phoenix]

I would've killed Luthen over Lonnie I won't lie

I don't care how necessary it was that made me very upset

[cloud narwhal]

It took the pride of ONE supervisor and ONE mole to uncover the most secret project the Empire has been hiding for the past 19 years

[glossy cove]

I'm honestly surprised that anyone from Axis survived into the Original Trilogy

[cloud narwhal]

I am glad they didn't all die despite my predictions

guess Cassian's "everything" was just Bix

[fluid phoenix]

I'm so glad people made it

[cloud narwhal]

and it hits harder now

[forest quest]

Cassian the deadbeat dad

[fluid phoenix]

I hope his kid never sees the war I won't lie

I don't want him to become a freedom fighter, I want his kid to see the sunrise that Cassian couldn't

[solemn heath]

Anyways else things Val was keeping in touch with Bix

So she might’ve told her about Cassian’s death in Scarif

[cloud narwhal]

I'm glad Mon's cousin is the Rebel drill instructor basically