Andor

[fleet pagoda]

In Rebels, Bail is already in Yavin

[cloud narwhal]

Both happen in 2BBY

[fleet pagoda]

He hasn't left Coruscant in Andor

[unreal veldt]

He mentioned Yavin already and how it wasn't ready

[solemn pumice]

No bail was orchestrating mothma getting to yavin. Yavin wasn't a fully established base during rebels

So he wasn't there

[fleet pagoda]

It's borked then?

[cloud narwhal]

Nothing is broken

[solemn pumice]

No, the rebels had multiple bases

[cloud narwhal]

Everything kinda fits in

[solemn pumice]

Yavin wasn't the main one at this point

[unreal veldt]

They had Dantooine

[cloud narwhal]

Yavin only became the main one in 1BBY

[solemn pumice]

Chopper base was the main outpost for the rebellion until mothma formed the alliance with her speech in rebels

[vague cave]

Honestly they’re frustrations though at having to work around Mon’s speech in Rebels is understandable

[cloud narwhal]

It's wonky but it worked in the end

[unreal veldt]

Chopper had a base? Good for him

[solemn pumice]

But like, they're just making it more complicated than it needed to be. They easily could have just said the empire aired a edited version after the fact.
Which is what was heard in rebels

[vague cave]

Gold squadron ended up dropping Mon off for a haircut before her big speech

[solemn pumice]

Well he found the planet so they named the base after him

[safe berry]

If they named a rebel base after Chopper that means Luthen 100% knows who Chopper is

[thick lava]

the mellroons

[solemn pumice]

Well they went back and forth between chopper and home base. But chopper base was the main name

[vague cave]

Luthen probably enjoyed Chopper’s eagerness to commit war crimes against the Empire

[fleet pagoda]

I need to rewatch at least the last two seasons of Rebels

[cloud narwhal]

I'm on season 3 in my rewatch

[solemn pumice]

I need to do my annual rewatch

Wtf does the blood mean 😭

[vague cave]

Luthen dying right before the Rebellion finally destroys the Death Star is peak irony

[unreal veldt]

They should retcon Luthen into sounding like RFK Jr just because

[cloud narwhal]

I could never watch Rebels on a yearly basis

[solemn pumice]

Skill issue

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[fading marten]

Cursed

[fleet pagoda]

Oh no, I love Rebels xD

[vague cave]

It’s fascinating to me how Luthen struggles to adapt to the new ways of the Rebellion and is still very willing to stay away from it and the Yarvin base

[fleet pagoda]

But it'd be too much

[cloud narwhal]

Rebels is fine but it's like

boring for most episodes without important character moments

[vague cave]

I’m not going on a Rebels tangent today

I refute

[cloud narwhal]

It's a fine show but it's WILDLY overrated

[fleet pagoda]

Cassian's friend said the line

[safe berry]

THE EMPIRE IS ADDING SEED OILS TO THE MEILOORUN STEW AND FLOURIDE IN THE JAWA JUICE

[fleet pagoda]

"Rebellions are built on hope"

Cassian's hotel friend*

[vague cave]

https://tenor.com/view/lalo-lalo-salamanca-hi-chat-howard-hamlin-better-call-saul-gif-25760692

[cloud narwhal]

I'm happy this one random kid Cassian sympathised with said something to him that resonated with him years later

[fleet pagoda]

NO

[solemn pumice]

Nah its incredibly underrated.
Rebels love isn't even remotely popular broadly in the community 😭
Its just the few people that legitimately love it are mentally ill about the series. Like me

[cloud narwhal]

Idk I've seen universal praise for the most part

[vague cave]

I’ve got a funny joke

[unreal veldt]

Especially the later seasons

[fleet pagoda]

I didn't like what they did to Sabibe and Ahsoka in the Ahsoka show

[vague cave]

StarWars Resistance

[cloud narwhal]

I frequently find myself in the minority in a lot of places for not really loving it as much others

[fleet pagoda]

Hera was great

[unreal veldt]

Get the fuck out of my chat, now

[cloud narwhal]

The glorious Enmilfication of Hera

[fleet pagoda]

NO

[solemn pumice]

Personally I like it more than the clone wars.
Like the clone wars has the better overall arcs. But rebels has more going for me start to finish

[fleet pagoda]

Clone Wars drags a bit

Still my favorite thing tho

[vague cave]

I haven’t actually seen the early seasons of the Clone Wars in quite some time

[unreal veldt]

Especially the Meiloorun episode

Peak

[fading marten]

Rebels doesn’t touch TCW imo

I love rebels

[vague cave]

Though to be honest I’m still burned out on Filoni content

[solemn pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rebels-alien-star-wars-gif-14794139

[vague cave]

In time I’ll return

[fading marten]

But it ain’t TCW

[fleet pagoda]

TCW highs are really high

Rebels Ahsoka is my favorite design of her tho

[fading marten]

Rebels has a ton of filler for me

[fleet pagoda]

And then Season 7

[fading marten]

Way too much

[vague cave]

I think it’s hilarious that TCW animation style has now just become the animated style

That new Darth Maul show is also in Clone Wars animation

[solemn pumice]

Nah rebels legitimately barely has filler past season 1.
Almost everything is important to the characters or story by the end

[fading marten]

also in some cases I prefer The Bad Batch over Rebels

[solemn pumice]

BUT THE BAD BATCH IS WORSE WITH THIS

[unreal veldt]

Your average Crosshair episode is better then most of Rebels

[unreal veldt]

My guy Wilmon

[solemn pumice]

At least in rebels it all comes together with everybody the ghost crew met coming together to free lothal.
Bad batch just does shit for the sake of having it

[vague cave]

Rebels isn’t dark enough for my liking, cope issue I know but I don’t like that it never goes far with its concepts and seems to lack the maturity at times to do so

[cloud narwhal]

I feel like a lot of the themes it tried to explore were like dipping your toes into a pool rather than diving in because it was constrained to a kids show

[fading marten]

A lot of the later season stuff is pretty serialized which I love

[vague cave]

And it had some pretty neat concepts all things considered

I just wish it would go deeper with them

[solemn pumice]

I never mind it because the narrative focus was always on the characters and the family

Also the Mandalorian arc in rebels is legitimately better than most of their stuff in cw and mando

[fading marten]

Siege of Mandalore and Death Watch are like untouchable for me. They can’t make anything better with the Mandos imo

[cloud narwhal]

Siege of Mandalore is one of the best few episodes of Star Wars content we've ever gotten

[fading marten]

I remember when that came out

[vague cave]

That’s how I felt again last night watching Episode 8

[fading marten]

It was like Christmas

[vague cave]

Peak

[solemn pumice]

Eh I think everything death watch stuff suffers from mandalore not really being explored properly. Like for how much mandalorians are featured in the clone wars. They never really explore the conflict there.

[vague cave]

Like eating the best steak

[solemn pumice]

Rebels I think one, has the best characterisation for bo. And is actually able to explore the root of mandalorian culture and conflict. As its able to directly explore it through sabine actions in the imperial academy and the fact it brings more mandalorians into the spotlight

[unreal veldt]

I remember when the Siege of Mandalore arc first came out, COVID had just started and it was amazing

[vague cave]

After the other episodes of Season 7 were just like alright nobody could see the absolute menace of an arc that was coming

[solemn pumice]

I still want to kill whoever thought it was okay to jump straight into siege and not just finish everything

[glossy cove]

https://tenor.com/view/dave-filoni-stare-nod-cowboy-hat-gif-15132203751633116620

[cloud narwhal]

Fave Diloni

[vague cave]

It’s the fact that we’re still getting tons of Clone Wars styled content

And yet they still can’t finish those arcs

[solemn pumice]

I think its basically confirmed dark disciple will at least get animated

[fading marten]

While I do wish we got more I kinda see The Bad Batch as an epilogue to season 8. Siege was fantastic either ways

[solemn pumice]

And they showed the boba/bane arc for literally no reason at celebration, that looked more complete than the other clips. So like, i think they're working on something

Also as much as I like all 3 seasons of mando.
I wish we got to see this bo-katan more
https://youtu.be/Y_2qvT98fS8?si=aNkL_wjoMD34Ibt0

[vague cave]

The fact we are actually getting a fully animated Clone Wars Darth Maul show is still kind of insane

Sam Witwer is going to lose his voice again

[fleet pagoda]

I'm a bit on the fence about the Maul show

For no other reason than I think we've seen everything there was to be seen with the character

Felt the same way when they teased him in SOLO

[vague cave]

That was so unnecessary

😭

[fleet pagoda]

Bruh lights up his lightsaber for no reason

[vague cave]

Han doesn’t even meet any force users until ANH

What were they cooking

What were they setting up

[solemn pumice]

I kinda am in a state where I'm fine with no more maul. Since his ending in rebels is great.
But I also wouldn't mind seeing more.

[vague cave]

If they don’t use this opportunity to round up Qi’ra as a character what even is the point

[fleet pagoda]

I agree with the top part lol

[solemn pumice]

I'm mainly concerned on the fact sam is like incredibly brain poisoned when it comes to george and really wants to use his ideas 😭

[glossy cove]

I trust Sam to keep Filoni in check because he's done it before

[cloud narwhal]

For the first part of the massacre it kinda reminded me of the scene on Jedha in Rogue One when Jyn and Cassian got caught up in the crossfire between the Empire and Saw's Partisans with how there was no music just pure chaos

[solemn pumice]

Sam is literally like a great dude. But he always has to try and see the best I George's ideas and even when their dogshit.
Which tbf he's also like the one person at lucasfilm who can make george and Dave eh ideas sound cool. But at a point you need to just admit this shits ass

[vague cave]

I just remember all the Clone Wars BTS footage of George continually begging or striving to find a way to bring Maul back

Literally introduced Savage as a “Maul 2.0” before saying fuck it and actually bringing back Maul

Lucas being one of the continuous people trying to make Maul’s return happen is so funny

Like if you cared so much about the dude why’d you give him no personality in the first place

[solemn pumice]

I hate this channel so much.
But its always cool to see sam behind the scenes stuff
https://youtube.com/shorts/5vwVC3dCozA?si=Wem_rnZfzRxgfN8l

[glossy cove]

I love that Sam is the most level headed person about Starkiller

It's nice that he's self aware about him

[solemn pumice]

Its actually funny seeing sam be this chill level headed guy who loves everybody at lucasfilm.
Then you look at his "fans" and they're all insane and the complete opposite of him

[forest quest]

If Sam ever turns out to be problematic I will fkn kms

[glossy cove]

People just hate Starkiller because he's a silly little guy and Sam's just like "He's a protagonist from a God of War clone, chill out" lmao

[solemn pumice]

I'd love from them to like fully kratos starkiller and make him a actual character

But it would probably piss off the weirdos, who also god weird when kratos was turned into a character in 2018

I'm also pretty sure sam would love to do that

[glossy cove]

Starkiller has a character arc, its just pretty generic

Like he's a white guy who learns that being a dark side force user is wrong

[solemn pumice]

Yeah but that's also og kratos

Just in the opposite direction

Like kratos had a arc. It was just pretty boring narratively even if the actions were fun

[vague cave]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-french-wine-fire-riot-gif-8682486111321628004

[pure vale]

Okay real talk. The massacre was indeed awful and genocide. But I was expecting something bigger. Like bombing a village until it’s just a lake of flames big

[vague cave]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-hellmo-french-baguette-chaos-gif-24577820

[solemn pumice]

Tbh I was expecting orbital bombardment

[vague cave]

Honestly this isn’t something I thought about during the episode, I worried thinking it was going to be mediocre in scope but I thought they actually did a great job at capturing the force of the Empire through the city

[pure vale]

SAME! I was waiting for those TIEs to drop a present

They make up for it by making it slow and personal

[solemn pumice]

I was mainly thinking since they kept mentioning there being a fuck ton of star destroyers in orbit.
I was fully expecting them to turn the turbo lasers on the city

[vague cave]

I think they wanted it to be that way having spent a few episodes focused on the particular Ghorman rebel conflict

[pure vale]

I think I just had in my head a mixture of Hiroshima and the Fire Lord at the end of Avatar TLA

[vague cave]

https://tenor.com/view/got-drogon-game-of-thrones-gif-10718218

[pure vale]

You think the bothans incident was similar to this? Or maybe more spread out like the end of Rogue One?

[vague cave]

Find out in the hit Movie, Bothens One: A Star Wars Story

[solemn pumice]

I still want to complain about the lack of weird aliens

[pure vale]

Add it to the pile of SW genocides

[solemn pumice]

Also still don't look how coruscant looks in the show.
Just idk, doesn't feel like the planet

[pure vale]

The diversity of Yavin kinda helped me

I like our new red visor glup shitto

[vague cave]

Coruscant is supposed to feel lifeless and corporate

To emphasize the Empire’s impact on the planet

They intentionally use toned down colors as well

[pure vale]

Coruscant used to be metallic and goddy. Under the empire everything is a doctors office at best

[solemn pumice]

But idk, it just feels broadly vastly difficult from every other appearance, and i get its supposed to be different under the empire. But it might as well be a generic cyberpunk city

[pure vale]

Frankly the new senate wouldn’t be that bad if there wasn’t an endless paranoia in the room

[safe berry]

I know it probably has more to do with budget but I wonder if an in-universe explanation is that there's less aliens because of the empire's xenophobic presence making it more unwelcoming

[pure vale]

Possibly

Palpatine culling the senators over time

[solemn pumice]

The sets just look a lot less interesting than it does in the prequels and clone wars.
Which I think is largely just the fact they're using real world locations.
Which is cool to film on location. Just feels like it's coming at the cost of coruscant feeling like coruscant

[vague cave]

Don’t worry they got the French atmospheres down though

[solemn pumice]

Or just like a star wars location

[pure vale]

The interior felt SW

[solemn pumice]

I do also dislike the smaller sets. Like I don't feel like i know ghorman because it was like a single square and a few streets

[solemn pumice]

the interior sets are beautiful though

Maybe they were stretching the budget with the outdoor sets

Also the senate looked as shit. Which was probably the worse use od cgi in the show

They kinda tried to make it better by blurring the background. But it was kinda hard not to notice when I realised mothma looked incredibly out of place and nothing was moving behind her

[pure vale]

Idk, but this immediately made me think of some the restaurants in Disney world. Like something from Frontierland or Main Street. Something very campy and old fashioned

[vague cave]

There’s a lot of shops and places like that in cities like New Orleans that are quite similar

A lot of it shockingly of course being based on French architecture

[pure vale]

Also any fight in a bar just gives me cowboy vibes

Except there was bombs outside this one

[quick scroll]

such a valid crashout

[cosmic marlin]

HOLY PEAK

Jumped straight to rebels season 3 episode 18

[glossy cove]

I should watch Secret Cargo

[forest quest]

The real secret cargo was the friends we made along the way

[fluid phoenix]

holy fuck

https://tenor.com/view/crying-aesthetically-gif-19898175

All of episode 8 had me in tears

Start to finish that was insane

BUT BIX MADE IT OUT

SHE BETTER NOT COME BACK TO DIE

Also poor Jimmy Smits could've been the first (?) actor to say shit in star wars

[glossy cove]

Fr fr

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-star-wars-sad-crying-skywalker-gif-12607558

[cosmic marlin]

I hope she doesn’t die.. but I also hope they get to meet one last time..

[solemn pumice]

We must kill gilroy and Disney for not delaying production long enough for him to come back

[cosmic marlin]

I find it so funny how Syril had made out Cassian to be his nemesis, finds him, beats him up, only for Cass to respond “who?” And then dies

[fluid phoenix]

it's the perfect ending for his character

all he wanted was to feel special

and in his last moment he was nobody

[cosmic marlin]

I really thought also the sniper was going to shoot Dedra and that would start the attack

[fluid phoenix]

him shooting the kid soldier was so effective though

[cosmic marlin]

Yeah

[fluid phoenix]

they intentionally brought children to die so they wouldn't lose anything they deemed valuable

[cosmic marlin]

Oh fuck I didn’t even think about that

[solemn pumice]

Its kinda funny in retrospective how cassian knew more about dedra than syril. The man who basically started the empire hunt for him

[forest quest]

Someone else said it onscreen in season 1 i think

And before that, Sio Bibble said it in one of the Padme novels

[fluid phoenix]

fucking sio bibble

of course that guy would say shit

[forest quest]

Of all people lol

He specifically said "shaak shit"

[solemn pumice]

https://fxtwitter.com/clonehumor/status/1572509605074468865?t=fQXFM8cef4fKsYz1a6YlGg&s=19

Lalo 🍵 Andor sweep (@clonehumor)

#Andor spoilers
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[fluid phoenix]

I knew I probably was forgetting someone

[forest quest]

I still think they should say "Fuck the Empire" in the finale

[solemn pumice]

Only if it's chopper

[fluid phoenix]

I will say

[forest quest]

I need to hear it in Basic

Basic beaches

[fluid phoenix]

This show made me appreciate lots of other material from this specific era

Unfortunately

[forest quest]

I love this show more than I love myself

[fluid phoenix]

Rebels I think I like less now

[glossy cove]

Makes sense

[forest quest]

I don't feel that way. I still feel invested in Ezra's journey

[fluid phoenix]

I've never been a big fan of the show

[forest quest]

You just need to watch it again

[fluid phoenix]

I know it's apples and oranges to this

But that direct tie in

It just made my brain stop for a sec and go 😐

[forest quest]

Which direct tie-in?

[fluid phoenix]

Like them saying that the ship was showing up for mothma

I knew beforehand it was a continuation

It's neither show's fault

[glossy cove]

Maybe rewatching Avatar will make me be more open to Rebels

[cosmic marlin]

My biggest issue with rebels is that I didn’t finish watching it when it came out, and only actually watched it before ahsoka

[fluid phoenix]

It just made my brain break for a sec remembering it

[solemn pumice]

The ship wasn't the ghost though.
Its a tie in. But there's extra steps there.

[fluid phoenix]

I'm aware

[solemn pumice]

Also gold squadron were in rogue one, so like

[fluid phoenix]

Right it's easier to remember rebels exist when I'm watching something also kinda mid

[cosmic marlin]

I kind of wish we got a shot of her making the rebels speech at the end, but Ik it’s not really necessary cause it exists there

[solemn pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/nba-gif-15687325833433865178

[fluid phoenix]

took you a bit there

had to flip through the saved gifs

[forest quest]

What I love about Rebels is they feel like a family

[solemn pumice]

I had to find the right gif with a threat of murder.

[unreal veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

[solemn pumice]

I have a few

[cosmic marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/chopper-star-wars-gif-25803686

[forest quest]

In Andor everyone seems like theyd be unpleasant to hang out with

They feel too real

[cosmic marlin]

Well yeah, half of them are Nazis

[fluid phoenix]

Fox looking through their gifs when someone mildly disagrees with them

[unreal veldt]

Bob gif, kill this guy with hammers gif 1 and 2

[glossy cove]

Fuck you, I'm hanging out with B2 and Brasso

[forest quest]

In fact I'll go as far as to say the Ghost crew feel more like a family than the Star Warriors generally did in the OT

[solemn pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/she-hulk-daredevil-fair-point-daredevil-fair-point-daredevil-fair-point-thats-a-fair-point-gif-26878870

[unreal veldt]

Bix went off to go hangout with B2 rn

[solemn pumice]

I need to get more original with my gifs

[cosmic marlin]

I wish they brought him to Yavin :(

He must be so sad

[unreal veldt]

Poor boy

[sweet owl]

There's a good chance he stayed on Ferrix in my mind. We did see him sitting there, drinking

[glossy cove]

Imagine he defects but Syril doesn't

[solemn pumice]

Not crazy to suggest though that syril would have 100% defected if he didn't see cassian in the crowd, right?

[fluid phoenix]

I'm glad he didn't

https://tenor.com/view/joker-arthur-joaquin-phoenix-you-get-what-you-fucking-deserve-gif-15915948

I thought it was a great detail that the moment he felt betrayed by Dedra he jumped to legit abuse. That wasn't "you made me complicit in a genocide" hate, that was "you manipulated me and I won't stand for that"

Til the end he was the actual worst

[safe berry]

As shitty of a person Syril is, and as sad as his ending was, I hope at least for his sake that in his last hour on Coruscant he got to taste the strap after

[fluid phoenix]

It is crazy that I felt bad for his mom

[unreal veldt]

Eh

[fluid phoenix]

I think the show did a great job of showing how literally everyone in the empire loses except palpatine

[fading marten]

https://tenor.com/view/crush-gif-11625814488451428634

[fluid phoenix]

Mothma's speech ending with that direct callout was so good

[fading marten]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-emperor-look-stare-gif-15923185

ya know he was having that look

[fluid phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-sidious-star-wars-the-clone-wars-season7-gif-19329261

[forest quest]

I always imagine Cyril from Archer whenever I hear Syril’s name

[glossy cove]

Kinda, because I doubt how much either of them actually loved eachother

[cloud narwhal]

I have no clue how Disney allowed that episode in the first place it was horrific

But it needed to be

[fluid phoenix]

Oh no I don't feel bad because of that, I feel bad because her entire life was pointless. All that belittling, all those favors she called in, she wasted all her time trying to force her son into being a somebody only to lose him because of it. She's pathetic, he's pathetic, and that's just what the Empire does to people. The propaganda it pushes, the lifestyle it encourages, it brings out the worst in people and then abandons them with the consequences of their actions.

[cloud narwhal]

I’m glad that in the end it was a false flag by the Empire and not by Cassian, Wil or any of the Ghormans to just fully embrace how terrible the Empire really is even towards their own soldiers

Those rookies, Syril, Dedra, the Ghormans, eventually Galen, Lyra, Krennic they all basically got used by the Empire for the sake of the Emperor and nobody else

Krennic was one of the top people in Imperial leadership and he got thrown away as soon as the Death Star was completed

Just keeps showing how fascist regimes only care about the one on top and everyone else is expendable

Even Vader was seen as expendable to Palpatine if he couldn’t control him

Even if Syril survived, he’d still be seen as a loose end by Partagaz because Dedra told him what the plan for Ghorman was

[fluid phoenix]

"...the monster who will come for us them soon enough is Emperor Palpatine"

[cloud narwhal]

Not only does this all enhance Rogue One to me

But the original trilogy

It makes the Rebel victory at Endor hit harder

I’m also VERY glad Bix wasn’t killed off

Despite how sure I was she would be

Blowing up ever single Empire apologist with my mind after this arc

[fluid phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/andor-brasso-scream-screaming-riot-gif-27145761

[frail steppe]

HelloGreedo wears a Stormtrooper helmet does that mean he's an Empire apologist?

[fluid phoenix]

He's using the face of the oppressors to mock them

[cloud narwhal]

These two fuckers have a very special place in Hell waiting for them

Him continuing to shoot at the crowd after he shot the trooper was sickening

[zinc sluice]

The officer having a hint of a smile as the massacre happens was horrific

[cloud narwhal]

You know damn well they were gonna find the most ruthless and psychotic fucker to pull this off

Idk why but Palmo's streets by day remind me of Sulon from Dark Forces 2

[cloud narwhal]

I like how Melshi still used the pistol Cassian gave him after they escaped Narkina 5

[frail steppe]

💔

[unreal veldt]

Yes, which was the pistol Cassian took from Syril on Ferrix

[cloud narwhal]

Isn’t it the one he took from the two officers he shot

[unreal veldt]

Nah that was more similar to Han's pistol

[cloud narwhal]

If that’s so at least one part of Syril is used by the Rebellion

[unreal veldt]

Poetic

[fluid phoenix]

"family and kids and life" lmao

[unreal veldt]

Employed final boss

[solemn pumice]

I kinda wish we got to see gold squadron. So we could finally get the bad bitch in live action

(Especially since she's the only member if gold squadron to survive the battle of yavin)

[sweet owl]

On a rewatch I noticed the irony of the Gorman Senator yelling "It's my people today and yours tomorrow!" as Bail Organa looks upon him. A man whom he and his people and their world will be destroyed by the Empire.

[glossy cove]

I feel so bad for Jimmy Smitts

Imagine missing out in the best peice of Star Wars media in forever just because you're starring in something else

[glossy cove]

I'm thinking a lot about how Andor adds a lot to Mon Mothma in Rebels

You see a LOT of the ugly side of the Rebellion through Luthen and Saw, and while they're effective Mothma has first hand experience on why they won't succeed in the end

[sweet owl]

Absolutely.

[cloud narwhal]

Mothma going from one chaotic event to another in Rebels

Woman couldn’t catch a break that day

[glossy cove]

Saw has no restraint about his methods and he dies in a hole on Jeddah

Luthen is probably going to be killed to prevent the ISB from learning anything about Axis

[cloud narwhal]

Jakku?

[glossy cove]

Oops, lol

*Jeddah

Meanwhile, the person they both belittle for being naieve fucking wins the war

[cloud narwhal]

I still love how the Ghorman massacre reminds me of the skirmish on Jeddah city

The chaos

Same feeling with the Ferrix Riot

I hope the Dipshit Brigade survived and got assimilated into the Base One group

[glossy cove]

They finally learned how to live off the melons

[cloud narwhal]

I love them despite how incompetent they were

[fluid phoenix]

Also shoutout to the entire cast of this show. Skarsgard is the only one of all the new characters who is like a big screen actor and yet everyone here gives their all and sells their characters perfectly

[cloud narwhal]

Give Diego Luna the Emmy already

[cosmic marlin]

No it sucks

[forest quest]

Simple: I work from home and don’t have kids

[safe berry]

do you think cassian ever told melshi what his real name was before joining the rebellion or do you think he went around yavin talking about his legendary buddy keef girgo

[cloud narwhal]

I was thinking about that

I hope General Freddie Stash Antoc Merrick appears as the ultimate cap off to the Rogue One glup shittos that should appear in Andor

We already got Melshi and Draven

[pure vale]

So I read the original K2 origin comic book. I prefer the show version

[glossy cove]

https://tenor.com/view/office-michael-scott-thank-you-gif-5278681

[pure vale]

It’s been a long time since I read it, if I even read it before now, but it just seems so off in the context now

[glossy cove]

The show is proof that Star Wars retcons are fine as long as they aren't substituting the original experience and provide a better alternative

[pure vale]

Plus the comic has a few too many running gags for my taste

[glossy cove]

The show doesn't do its own version of that comic, it just has a alternate version of Cassain and K2 meeting

[glossy cove]

I thought those gags were funny, but they don't really fit with Andor's tone

That comic is more Rogue One media than it is part of the greator Andor experience

[pure vale]

The twins communicating through smell felt more natural in a marvel universe, than SW

[glossy cove]

That I don't know about

Star Wars aliens are weird

[cloud narwhal]

I like how the show connects to Rebels despite how different the speeches are because it shows how much the Empire wanted her gone

[glossy cove]

Yeah

Going from meeting Cassian and Ezra Bridger in the same span of time must have been a complete mindfuck

[cloud narwhal]

Literally

Like the two most important early rebellion figures

[pure vale]

Cass was escorting twin aliens who only communicate by releasing certain pheromones into the air. So he had to guesstimate what they say like “I’ll take that smell as a ‘yes’”. That’s not even an exaggeration

[glossy cove]

My favorite part is where they just talk normally at the very end

[pure vale]

Yeah turns out they’re just fucking with him they remind me of two Aubrey Plazas

[solemn pumice]

You know there's a high chance ezra and cassian met. Considering the ghost crew were on yavin for a bit before going back to lothal

He 100% knows chopper

[safe berry]

Well Chopper was in Rogue One

[pure vale]

“That really racist droid”

“I had to hold K2 from throwing him”

[solemn pumice]

What we really need to see is chopper and K2 on a mission together

[cloud narwhal]

They did say at the end of episode 9 that a freighter was landing could have been a subtle reference to the Ghost

[glossy cove]

"Cassian, please don't make me work with Chopper. He keeps calling me Slurs."

[solemn pumice]

It would have only been hera, chopper, rex and zeb

Kanen, sabine and ezra didn't arrive at yavin until later. Since they were doing shit on mandalore

[pure vale]

“They don’t even make sense, but he keeps using them!”

[glossy cove]

Gold Squadron is in that episode and they help the Ghost bring her back, so I'm pretty sure that's conformation that episode is happening in the background of K2 coming back online and Cassian getting his heart broken

[cloud narwhal]

Next arc better be about the Death Star

That’s like the only thing left at this point

[pure vale]

What if the last we see of Cass is in the furry coat?

[glossy cove]

I'm expecting that the last episode will have a stinger of him going to where we see him in Rogue One

[solemn pumice]

Its basically confirmed the show gonna end with him meeting the guy who kills at the start of rogue one

[cloud narwhal]

It’s probably gonna be everything happening leading to Rogue One since that movie kinda drops you in the middle of everything

[pure vale]

Next time on Andor

[fluid phoenix]

I'm 100% going to put on Rogue One right after the finale

OH AND THEN IT GOES RIGHT INTO A NEW HOPE

Shit's going to be insane to watch back to back to back one day

[cloud narwhal]

I’m more excited to see how it all fits in because I’m also watching Rebels in between Andor arcs

the time period between ANH and ROTS about to be the most documented period in Star Wars history

[cloud narwhal]

My mon said this after the last arc too lmao, it’s gonna be an Ep 10, 11 and 12 marathon for us

[solemn pumice]

its kinda wild that they literally just found a dude who looks exactly like mothma aid from rebels

[pure vale]

You good, man?

[cloud narwhal]

I was thinking about this and it kinda showing Clem raising Cassian not to waste things and “look past the rust”

[forest quest]

They saved that for the finale that they put out almost a decade ago

I think it’s fine for the comic to have a different tone. Let Cassian have a bit of levity in his shitty life.

[solemn pumice]

https://x.com/monsmothma/status/1920498421443465486

lil ✰ andor spoilers (@monsmothma) on X

im dying laughing

X · May 8, 2025, 3:17 PM

[frail steppe]

What is Linda McCartney soyjaking about?

[pure vale]

Paul shot John(their gay relationship is over)

[glossy cove]

https://fixupx.com/HubPointless/status/1920483221436760234

PointlessHub (@HubPointless)

All the political intrigue of Andor leads to the Emperor returning somehow in 30 years as a zombie with a secret Evil fleet all armed with Death Star lasers.

Quoting SirSnipeyy | Andorhypeguy 🧱🔩 (@SirSnipeyy)
︀
I’m unfortunately reminded that everything Andor is doing, everything Rogue One and The Original Trilgoy does, is all for naught as The New Republic will disarm its military and give way to yet another fascist regime.

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FixupX · May 8, 2025, 2:17 PM

https://x.com/lognacio/status/1920280237176234409

🪐 (logna) 🪐 | ANDOR ERA (@lognacio) on X

dave filoni creating andor:

“tear the bantha poodoo out of this place”

X · May 8, 2025, 12:51 AM

https://fixupx.com/QuiGonJenna/status/1920296169562832917

QG Jenna 🖤 (@QuiGonJenna)

All of these characters exist within the same universe

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FixupX · May 8, 2025, 1:54 AM

[frail steppe]

What the hell is that blue thing

[pure vale]

Its from a little kids show about the high republic

[pure vale]

When you realize the balance of the galaxy requires effort

[frail steppe]

Ain't that the reality?

[forest quest]

That’s Nubs and you will give him respect

[solemn pumice]

https://youtu.be/zZchacW7NT0?si=V7wOb7uzWHCVFWfE

[glossy cove]

Holy fuck, SW Explained had a fire opening to this video

"Star Wars and its themes have not changed, but some of its audience stopped listening."

https://tenor.com/view/writing-fire-gif-523038869044733220

[fluid phoenix]

Yeah, the zombie arc we've been going through lately has been crazy

[cloud narwhal]

One of the few genuinely good SW YouTubers

Star Wars was always woke you just grew up to be a terrible person

[fluid phoenix]

People got lost in the merch

[solemn pumice]

Its a larger part of his episode 7-9 review. He popped off through the whole thing.

[cloud narwhal]

I already saw people say “why did the Empire have to commit genocide they could have just mined the kalkite without killing anyone”

MY BROTHER IN CHTIST DID YOU HEAR WHAT WAS SAID IN THE FIRST EP

[cloud narwhal]

I watched the whole video it was phenomenal

[solemn pumice]

Mind you its been canon for years that they genocided the geonosians after using them for slave labour on the death star

[glossy cove]

Yeah, the Empire literally said there was no way to get all of the Kalkite without face fucking the planet

Do Star Wars fans just not pay attention when they watch it?

Genuinely confused

[cloud narwhal]

The Lasats too

[royal flume]

Hard to focus without the hype moments and aura

[cloud narwhal]

It’s literally part of Zeb’s whole character

[cloud narwhal]

Yeah because ofc you’d engineer a scenario where you can declare martial law on a planet to ethnically cleanse the planet of its main demographic if you could mine a material in peace

[solemn pumice]

Side note, but zeb arc literally resulted in one of the best sequences in star wars
https://youtu.be/mwJPUopLrw0?si=vGkvAZmLK27hRgM4

Its so fucking beautiful. But I guess people just weren't paying attention to the story

[glossy cove]

The Empire would never have a peaceful solution to any problem, and if they ever did its because their Propaganda department is working overtime to make people think they did

[solemn pumice]

Also I just realised the video cuts off 💀

Okay there

Journey into the star cluster might also legitimately be the kiner best piece of music

[cloud narwhal]

Let’s also ignore them literally killing/kidnapping force sensitive children

[pure vale]

Yeah but it was with an epic sword

[cloud narwhal]

Every time I see something like that I get reminded of that Wolfenstein green text where the op didn’t get why Nazis were bad because the streets were clean and there was no crime

People get caught up on the vanity of evil

[pure vale]

A German street wasn’t meant to be clean

[glossy cove]

Just because the Empire happens to think that some things are good doesn't mean they're good guys lmao

If Vader actually did say "Respecting Women is good" that doesn't retroactively make him a good person

[solemn pumice]

Throw back to when vader threw aphra out of a airlock so she'd specifically have a painful death. After promising her her death would be quick

Truly a respecter of women

[cloud narwhal]

Or when he choked his own wife

If any of these fuckers had a girlfriend they’d act like Syril towards her

[solemn pumice]

ITS THE OLD MEME.
Where the dude has a girl hostage while he talks about star wars

Fuck that's a tiktok classic

[fluid phoenix]

WHAT UP GUYS IT'S STAR WARS DAY AND I'M HERE WITH MY GIRLFRIEND

[frail steppe]

Already unrealistic Star Wars fans hate women

[fluid phoenix]

My thing too is, the Kalkite is most likely for a the Death Star, yes?

So why split hairs on them killing people to get the material needed to wipe out entire planets

Like the Empire doesn't need the death star for anything in a practical sense either

ACTUALLY YEAH THEY BLEW UP ALDERAAN FOR LITERALLY NO REASON

And this is when people are gonna ask why the Empire is so mean????

[solemn pumice]

I mean they blew up alderaan to set an example. As it was a big source for rebels

[cloud narwhal]

They also blew up Jeddah city to test the Death Star

[royal flume]

legit just fell for the in-universe propaganda

[fluid phoenix]

He could've waited to just blow up the actual rebel base

He literally says "mmm nah not flashy enough"

[cosmic marlin]

And Scarif

[fluid phoenix]

Like they really nail home that beyond the fucked up morals of it, it's not even a logical decision. He's just being an asshole.

There's like no other way to interpret it other than him wanting to make Leia suffer

[cosmic marlin]

Do we ever see the senates reaction/response to the destruction of Alderaan and also the Death Stars?

[solemn pumice]

The senate was disbanded before the movie

[glossy cove]

*during the movie

[cosmic marlin]

Damn. That sounds like a red flag. They didn’t think to stop that guy??

[glossy cove]

By the time the senate got disbanded, it was so full of Imperial Bootlickers that most of them were probably like "Hey, Palpatine knows better than me, I trust his choice!"

[cosmic marlin]

Damn

What about that Bail Organa guy from Andor. Surely he was still there

Can’t imagine anything bad happening to him ever

[cloud narwhal]

I’m thinking about the Imperial sniper and how we’ve only ever gotten scout troopers as snipers in canon for the most part the guy in Andor looks 10x more menacing with the hood

I like all the “new” Imperial army unit variants

[thin raft]

caught up!

oh my god wait

this gives me an idea

[cloud narwhal]

[cloud narwhal]

The Senate Guard armour wasn’t immune to the Imperialification of everything

[thin raft]

this is a coping mechanism btw

this show is insane

one of my favorite things to exist ever

[cloud narwhal]

Ep 8 was very hard to watch

[fading marten]

Episode 8 was some of the scariest shit imaginable

[cloud narwhal]

In all the best ways ofc

It was the silence then the sinister music because the Ferrix riot was also a massacre

[thin raft]

the way syril develops some awareness of his role in the massacre but as soon as he sees cassian it fizzles out and he immediately shifts the blame

just doesnt have the guts to take accountability

[cloud narwhal]

But it was framed less tragically than the Ghorman Massacre

Because the Ferrix riot was just one dipshit Impy giving an order

[thin raft]

ferrix was a massacre but there was some semblance of hope and community mixed in

[cloud narwhal]

Ghorman massacre was engineered to happen

[thin raft]

ghorman was sheer terror

and yeah

all the planning that went into it was just so

so so sinister

and god

far too real

[cloud narwhal]

The guy who played captain Kido

He was phenomenal

[fading marten]

It honestly kind of felt like the Detroit riots were an inspiration

[thin raft]

genuinely awful so awful

[cloud narwhal]

Genuinely one of the most reprehensible Imperials ever

[thin raft]

they keep raising the fucking bar with that

[cloud narwhal]

The sniper too

[fading marten]

These next three episodes cannot come quicker

[cloud narwhal]

He just kept shooting at the crowd

And clearly unarmed people

I hoped Cassian would just shoot him

But even Cassian was taken aback by everything

[fading marten]

Is it bad though that I thought episode 3 was scarier

With the SA

[fluid phoenix]

It's crazy to think most of this was written before the situation in palestine got worse

[fluid phoenix]

that made me more angry than scared personally

my hands were legit clenched tight til they were turning white that whole scene

this I was just crying

[fading marten]

That fucker is burning in hell right now

[fading marten]

Same it was so fucking sad

[cloud narwhal]

Cassian and Wilmon both having these expressions too

Even seasoned Rebel spies couldn’t believe the things they were seeing

[pure vale]

“Hello father. Where is mother?”

[fluid phoenix]

cassian is the mom

[thin raft]

its just so insane to see history constantly repeating itself like this

even with the first arc being released in the midst of all the immigration shit happening right now

its actually killing me how topical it continues to be

[fluid phoenix]

art always finds a way of exposing the truth

[thin raft]

everything with the ghorman massacre just being actual things that happened in palestine in the first few months of the genocide and beyond

[fading marten]

Cassian - male mom
Wilmon - Neurodivergent dad
Luthen - sister
K2SO - woke dog

[fluid phoenix]

even the "valley, highlands" just made me immediately think "from the river to the sea"

[cloud narwhal]

Not me almost being in the middle of a false flag situation during the largest protest in Serbian history because that’s what the LRAD attack was for

[fluid phoenix]

bro I gotta get a gun or something

[thin raft]

HG goes to the pawn shop

[fluid phoenix]

Discord I don't plan on doing anything illegal

[glossy cove]

Its one of my favorite details in Episode 9. Really shows you how much of a shell the Senate is by this point.

[pure vale]

He’s lying

[fluid phoenix]

I'm just talking about star wars blasters

I'm going to buy a laser pew pew

[pure vale]

He’s still lying

[fluid phoenix]

you're right

[thin raft]

https://tenor.com/view/activating-the-grenade-elijah-smoke-sinners-preparing-the-grenade-drawing-the-pin-gif-14059977703199691976

[cloud narwhal]

Literally at this point I’m going to protests armed

[fluid phoenix]

pixarpal is gonna buy it for me

[zinc sluice]

Ferrix was definitely more hopeful because it had Maarva’s speech

[fading marten]

Syril seconds before beating the shit outta Cass

[royal flume]

https://tenor.com/view/andor-star-wars-dies-of-death-dies-of-cringe-mina-rau-gif-4338294651831872099

[pure vale]

Alright but just this once

[thin raft]

seeing syril being not only slapped, not only beaten, but also shot in the head healed something in me

[fluid phoenix]

cassians legit fighting skills were so satisfying to watch

[pure vale]

That fight between was brutal

[thin raft]

god i hope dedra gets eviscerated atom by atom

[pure vale]

Dedra put some balls in that man

[unreal veldt]

I do though

[cloud narwhal]

It also shows gradually how more and more oppressive the Empire becomes till eventually they dissolve the Imperial senate after 1 (one) major battle with the Rebel Alliance

[fluid phoenix]

if he saw syril coming even without his blaster I feel like cassian could've whooped his ass without a scratch being laid on him

[unreal veldt]

I hope she's retconned into being on Scarif and gets blown up

[fading marten]

PLEASE.

[thin raft]

they have her strapped directly to the inside of the death star’s main reactor

[fluid phoenix]

have they ever stated what specifically lead to the senate being dissolved?

[pure vale]

Anyone else nearly lose their breath when they almost saw each other on the stairs?

[unreal veldt]

She's a victim of the Death Star's lack of guard rails

[fading marten]

Galen was fucking COOKING.

[zinc sluice]

Ngl was hoping more of the other rebel senators were featured in the show

Garm Bel Iblis would have been fun to see or at least be mentioned

[cloud narwhal]

I feel bad for them but not in a sense that I think their misery is unjustified, but in a “look at the sad evil pathetic creature trying to feel regular human emotion”

[unreal veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/syril-syril-karn-karn-andor-star-wars-gif-4656947529395886611

[thin raft]

i always assumed it was gradual, and that by the time of ANH the dissolution was basically a formality and it was useless anyways

[fluid phoenix]

her little panic attack

[frail steppe]

Y’all finally saw how Israel treats Palestinians if only Andor was around 1948 mfs would’ve known earlier

[fading marten]

MAKE IT A STICKER @safe berry

[fluid phoenix]

I like to think mothma leaving was the beginning of the end for it

[cloud narwhal]

We knew for a while

[zinc sluice]

Corellian senator who’s also commanding a whole rebel cell and striking at strategic places while being in the imperial senate and being so good at lying about his involvements

Wish we got something with Garm Bel Iblis,

[pure vale]

Pins don’t work in this channel, but I appreciate the enthusiasm

[thin raft]

syril feels 5 ounces of guilt and immediately has to pin it on someone else bc its too much for him to handle

[fluid phoenix]

ayham says this like we haven't all actively been watching clips of real world genocide for over a year

[thin raft]

israeli occupation was one of many inspirations for the brutality in this show

[pure vale]

In 1948 it would’ve been solely based on WWII still

[frail steppe]

I can tell

[fluid phoenix]

ayham watch the show

[fading marten]

this is homework

[pure vale]

Yeah watch peak or leave

[fading marten]

like legitimately

[frail steppe]

Waiting for the show to come out fully so me and Jaine can watch it, we made an agreement.

[pure vale]

Fair enough

[unreal veldt]

Jaine already watched it without you

[fluid phoenix]

also stop spoiling it for yourself

[frail steppe]

Yeah he’s willing to do it again lol

[cloud narwhal]

I don’t mind watching it a 10th time (sick individual)

[pure vale]

My dad always waits for shows to finish. Idk why

[zinc sluice]

Excited to binge watch the whole season with my girlfriend

[fading marten]

God I’m in so much need of content like this

[frail steppe]

I don’t really mind spoilers

[cloud narwhal]

I’d also like to believe Dedra’s little meltdown was also at the loss of her boyfriend because I do think she loved him even if she was a psychopath

[zinc sluice]

We’ve finished season 1 but she wanted to wait until all of season 2 was out to watch it all in one go

[frail steppe]

I honestly don’t even remember most of these guys’ names except Paul McCartney and Syril.

[royal flume]

could you imagine this releasing in the old schedule and we'd just have to sit with episode 8 for a whole week

[frail steppe]

Oh and Mothma ig

[fluid phoenix]

exactly you remember shit better if you watch it and get invested

[thin raft]

media is so much better when u havent extensively discussed every detail with people who have watched it 😭😭😭

[zinc sluice]

Paul Mcartney?? 😭

[fading marten]

I feel like episode 9 is understated in the chat. It was fucking intense

[thin raft]

im sitting my partner down and making them watch this show if its the last thing i do

[frail steppe]

Why yes I’m aware.

[thin raft]

im actually just beginning to introduce them to star wars as a whole

[zinc sluice]

My girlfriend loves Bix, so she’s gonna be heartbroken at what happens this season

[cloud narwhal]

Ayham has to fact check media and see if the spongy boingy was properly represented with his comic accurate pissed pair of pants before he watches it

[pure vale]

The show is named after him! 😭

[unreal veldt]

Well then wait for it and stop ruining it for yourself ♥️

[thin raft]

bix leaving was such a gut punch

[zinc sluice]

I introduced my GF to Star Wars through the OT and now she’s an even bigger fan than I am lol

[thin raft]

i love media that fucking ruins me

[cloud narwhal]

GIVE DIEGO LUNA THE ENMY ALREADY

[unreal veldt]

Media recently has been ruining me

[frail steppe]

Gotta make sure the realistic genocidal maniacs also has colorful and whimsical clothing now ain’t that fantastic?

[cloud narwhal]

His reaction to her being gone was so genuine

[fluid phoenix]

I love that until the very end the message of all of star wars is that you can't run from the fight and expect to come out unscathed

[zinc sluice]

We’ were about to watch the Prequels and she says “okay I’m also gonna read the books you talk about all the time cuz they sound awesome”

Like I actually fucking won

[fading marten]

It was but like it also reassured me that she might be okay by the time the OT comes around

[pure vale]

Isn’t introducing your media to people just the best?

[royal flume]

ikr after 8 i was thinking "they already had a massive, heavy episode. what are they going to do next" and then boom

[cloud narwhal]

After them I was like “wait there’s one whole arc left”

[fluid phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-obi-wan-kenobi-maybe-some-day-someday-one-day-gif-26036494

[thin raft]

i was sure they would bring k2 online early and have him crack some jokes after how heavy the massacre was(i am coping)

[unreal veldt]

That's the center of Star Wars, sacrifice,

[fading marten]

Like obviously mon is gonna make it out but Christ did they make it terrifying

[zinc sluice]

She’s reading the new Jedi order books now, and I didn’t even tell her about them she just picked them up on her own cuz I talked about them all the time 😭

[cloud narwhal]

The media censorship made me so angry

[zinc sluice]

Like she’s the best I love her so much

[thin raft]

honestly love this for u, finally someone who picks up those damn books for u 😭

[pure vale]

I don’t think Mon made it fully out. Not mentally

[fluid phoenix]

Her delivery of "Emperor Palpatine" at the end will stick with me

[zinc sluice]

LMAO yeah

[cloud narwhal]

0 days without NJO mentioned

[fluid phoenix]

Like as she said it I just like remembered every death he caused

[fading marten]

She is a fantastic actor

[thin raft]

maybe the next time i watch rogue one cassian will escape and live out his days with bix on a farm

just like how the next time i watch revenge of the sith anakin wont turn to the dark side

ITS REALLY GONNA HAPPEN

THIS TIME I HAVE A FEELING

[unreal veldt]

Turtle...

[fluid phoenix]

I don't think I've been this like scared of what the emperor represents since rotj

[thin raft]

this makes the emperor in rotj feel like a yapping chihuahua

[fluid phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/look-at-the-flowers-twd-carl-sad-gif-13413320

[zinc sluice]

Sorry gang 😔

[solemn pumice]

I particularly wonder if this and luthen general actions helps fuel mothma general disdain for saw and his exile from the alliance

[cloud narwhal]

AND THE MF IS NOT EVEN ON SCREEN EVER

[royal flume]

the parallels in the 8th episode were crazier but we also got people publicly speaking for the right thing and being censored and having the media turned against them

nuh uh. never happens

unrealistic

[fluid phoenix]

the galaxy is watching

[thin raft]

beginning the episode with the ghor senator being arrested

[pure vale]

https://tenor.com/view/what-if-what-is-happening-marvel-marvel-what-if-avengers-gif-22712630

[fading marten]

This was incredibly relevant

[zinc sluice]

cough Israel

[thin raft]

https://tenor.com/view/smash-clone-trooper-2003clone-wars-star-wars-gif-20468319

[fading marten]

shit is literally happening in the US with judges

[cloud narwhal]

I remember seeing someone compare episode 8 to January 6th and they got absolutely lambasted in the replies

Bro is just blind, deaf and stupid

[zinc sluice]

Media literacy competition but my opponent is a republican

[thin raft]

thinking about krennic’s snarky little “my rebel is your terrorist” remark

GRAHHHHH

[fluid phoenix]

"this is just like that time we all screamed a bunch and now one of is a representative!"

[thin raft]

https://tenor.com/view/receiving-gold-medal-ding-ning-olympics-winner-gold-medalist-gif-22516908

[fading marten]

Im crying lmfao

[royal flume]

so many thoughts about these episodes running through my head that are so complex the only thing that comes out is:

[unreal veldt]

Man it would suck if Andor was happening in real life

[fluid phoenix]

I actually don't know if one of the january 6th terrorists won an election but I know they were running for office last year

[cloud narwhal]

“You best be believing in Andor stories, you’re in one”

[fading marten]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[thin raft]

good thing its just silly escapist fantasy

[zinc sluice]

“This episode reminds me of the time we ransacked the capitol because a president who favoured the people was winning the vote instead of rich selfish billionaire”

[pure vale]

Holy crap, Lois

[fluid phoenix]

holy freaking crap lois this reminds me of that time that we lived in a proto-fascist state

[royal flume]

if i was better with words i'd have anything better than that but uhhh yeah anyway the empire is awful it's a good thing fascists are fictional amiright

[thin raft]

imagine being so cushy in the imperial core that you think the show inspired by all sorts of real life genocides and historical atrocities is about your friends throwing a hissy fit about your media mogul not winning an election

the victim complex is insane

well okay like. we are cushy in the imperial core

but ykwim

[unreal veldt]

Holy crap, Lois, man-made horrors that is realistic and will lead to the death of millions

[thin raft]

just being so condensed in that bubble

[cloud narwhal]

Cassian boarding the U-Wing instead of needing to wait for Luthen with the Fondor felt exactly as it was, Cassian doesn’t need Luthen anymore and Luthen knows he is reaching his expiration date

[cloud narwhal]

He isn’t built for Yavin

[thin raft]

uhhh petah… wheres the cutaway gag….
i dont know.. im scared lois

[unreal veldt]

He went out in public as himself, short haired & dark cloak, not the Luthen the elite know

He's at his endgame

[fluid phoenix]

I'm this close to kicking you from the thread man gtfo and wait to watch this show 😭

[pure vale]

Do it

[fading marten]

Idk why turtle I feel like you could do a good Lois impression lmao

[frail steppe]

Okay fine 🗿

[royal flume]

"holy crap lois this is just like the time i encountered a KX droid at ghorman-"

[cloud narwhal]

I said this before but the ISB is a law enforcement agency so in actual war they wouldn’t be as effective, military intelligence takes place then

[fluid phoenix]

bro those droids

[cloud narwhal]

But also he has an actual home now

Where he feels safe

He’s outside of the gray box that was Luthen’s safehouse

[fluid phoenix]

the fucking brutality of the kx units was insane

[pure vale]

K2 in RO: haha I’m a silly guy, with dark humor
KX in Andor: Terminator theme

[fading marten]

I feel like JFO made them really fucking scary

[pure vale]

True

[thin raft]

how im starin at this mf on my shelf after seeing andor s2 e8

[fluid phoenix]

they were scarier

[solemn pumice]

Remembering when they were revealed in fallen order

[fading marten]

And that was just enhanced in Andor

[fluid phoenix]

but not this bad

[thin raft]

when it kicked the barricade

[royal flume]

i have immense respect for cal kestis after he can still fight being slammed and beaten by those things but the average ghorman fucking dies when hit by one

[pure vale]

Idk. Their grip was pretty terrifying in FO at first

[solemn pumice]

It kinda makes sense why they deployed these fuckers on mandalore during the purge

[fluid phoenix]

haha it's a good thing death robots are so scifi and also nowhere near

[pure vale]

The force or something idk

[thin raft]

its terrifying that a jedi has that much trouble against one. but being a jedi, its less scary knowing you’ll cut em down

if ur just some guy with a gun ur FUCKED

[unreal veldt]

How tf did Jyn one-shot a KX unit on Jedha tho

[solemn pumice]

Plot

[thin raft]

maybe jedha got the cheap ones

[fluid phoenix]

the force or something idk

[fading marten]

The way the bolts just ricocheted off

[pure vale]

So what kind of blaster penetrates a KX, because I wasn’t aware they had advanced armor

[fluid phoenix]

i'm sure the ghors had the cheap stuff

[thin raft]

“the strongest whores have farts of kyber” or whatever the wise gay blind guy said

[solemn pumice]

Probably not most. Considering they were seemingly the main force user against mandalorians. Which you know, I don't think use cheap weapons.

[pure vale]

The hardest droids require the strongest wills

[thin raft]

god its been a while since a piece of media has had me this invested

[royal flume]

ghors? more like... gored

[thin raft]

probably since like. s1 of the same show

[pure vale]

Watch more stuff

[thin raft]

i do

its good stuff

[fluid phoenix]

probably the issue is watching too much tbh

[pure vale]

Good soup

[thin raft]

i lied sinners was the last thing i watched that made me feel similarly emotional

so. pretty recent

its just different when the piece of media that hits also happens to connect to a hyperfixation

[pure vale]

Yeah true

[royal flume]

other stuff doesn't have cereal warring in the stars

[cloud narwhal]

And something that was slop for a while

[thin raft]

for real

[fading marten]

The last time I watched something I cried through the majority of was Grave of the Fireflies

[thin raft]

im always just begging for star wars content like this

and my god they delivered

[cloud narwhal]

Visions is getting more content

So

[thin raft]

funny nazi guy gets yelled at by his mom while eating cereal

[thin raft]

[pure vale]

She’s not yelling anymore

That, along with K2, were the only parts that almost got me

[fading marten]

If it’s revealed that Ghibli is like a secret producer of one of the episodes I’m gonna hyperfixate

[cloud narwhal]

I talked to Masterbuilt about this but Andor is the only piece of live action Star Wars media that I think use Lucas’ original approach to creating a visual identity rather than just emulate the visual language of the Original Trilogy, it’s why I get a mix of Prequel and OT feelings visually

[pure vale]

Well it will be nice to see more of the Ninth Jedi again at least

[cloud narwhal]

It’s evident because even the Acolyte sorta emulated the OT with how things were designed

[pure vale]

I don’t get OT at all from acolyte

[zinc sluice]

Lock in cuz it’s gonna be a rough few years with more mando slop

[cloud narwhal]

I do especially with the ships and everything

[pure vale]

He probably doesn’t remember

[fading marten]

God I’m sad that Acolyte got cancelled so fast but after the first two episodes I had no fucking desire to watch it

[cloud narwhal]

He’s innocent

[pure vale]

I never said that

[zinc sluice]

All of the costuming especially for ghorman reminds me of the bespin extras in ESB

[cloud narwhal]

As I said Palmo’s streets remind me of Sulon from Dark Forces 2

[zinc sluice]

So real I tapped out at episode 3 with the witch covern and just watched the lightsaber fights

[fading marten]

Pixar why the vhs emote 😭

[pure vale]

It’s unfortunate because the latter have was an improvement

[pure vale]

Idk. I don’t have a traditional Chad beyond that one

[glossy cove]

It has the best Disney+ Lightsaber duels so that makes sense

[fluid phoenix]

low bar

[zinc sluice]

The show was really disjointed

Like I was bored as fuck for the osha and Mae plot

But everything with Qimir sounded so sick

[pure vale]

Oh wait you said Disney+

[zinc sluice]

The show from the start should’ve just been focused on Qimir and Vernestra’s falling out, and then him being like a rogue Sith endangering the rule of two

[pure vale]

Actually if we’re counting animation, still not even close

[glossy cove]

Quimir is the only new Dark Side user who has a lightsaber style beyond "big guy"

[fluid phoenix]

if we're counting animation yeah it's still ass

[fluid phoenix]

wait the stranger?

[fading marten]

Ahsoka Maul Mandalore Siege

Amazing fucking fight

[fluid phoenix]

I know I'm saying the acolyte is ass in comparison

[fading marten]

Ah

[fluid phoenix]

but better than the kenobi fight if we're talking live action d+

[glossy cove]

I only remember the Ahsoka and Maul fight because people glaze it

[fading marten]

I actually like the fights in Ahsoka

[pure vale]

There’s a reason

[zinc sluice]

The Kenobi fight was probs the worst we’ve gotten

That fucking shakey cam omg

[cloud narwhal]

Baylan v Ahsoka both times was pretty good

[zinc sluice]

Actually felt like a fan film

[fading marten]

https://tenor.com/view/aleyrh-selfie-shaking-camera-gif-15804853

[cloud narwhal]

The entire show is ugly as sin

[glossy cove]

Yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K7Nk6c4SMg

[pure vale]

Captain helmet

[zinc sluice]

The Mustafa scene looked like a fucking Dark Forces 2 cutscene

[glossy cove]

I love that he literally just throws himself into fights to catch blades with his Cortosis gear, then kill Jedi when they're defenseless

[fluid phoenix]

Oh I'm stupid I forget he was qimir

[glossy cove]

lmao

[fluid phoenix]

I thought qimir was squid games guy

[glossy cove]

LMAO

That's Sol

[zinc sluice]

He’s the most dark souls player Star Wars Sith we’ve ever seen

[fading marten]

Qimir is from The Good Place

Great show btw

[pure vale]

Qimir would do well in SG

[fluid phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/the-good-place-jason-mendoza-pre-successful-success-gif-14265992202906002571

[fading marten]

https://tenor.com/view/gummy-worms-eat-thumbs-up-great-good-gif-10609781

[thick lava]

Shattered Glass? Silvagunner?

[pure vale]

Squid game

[thick lava]

Oh

Sonic Generations

[fluid phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/mrbeast-ytpmv-rap-battle-squid-game-squid-game-vs-mrbeast-gif-25491394

[pure vale]

Anyways best character is back. SW is finally good again

[solemn pumice]

Do you think there's a Mr beast equivalent in star wars on the holo net who tortures people for entertainment

[fluid phoenix]

chopper

[solemn pumice]

I was gonna say hondo

[pure vale]

Yeah probably like Mojo from X-men

[solemn pumice]

I hate that

Why

[fluid phoenix]

Mr. Beast the Hutt

[pure vale]

I bet he uses that cube from Tcw, but with cameras

[solemn pumice]

I didn't want to connect mojo to Mr beast

It actually fucking works

I wanna die

😭

[pure vale]

Hey that’s not fair. Mojo is funny

He smiles and you know it’s real

[solemn pumice]

I need somebody to make mojo doing the thing

https://tenor.com/view/mrbeast-ytpmv-rap-battle-squid-game-squid-game-vs-mrbeast-gif-25491394

[pure vale]

I’ll add it to the list

[solemn pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/daeth-funi-periflight-dies-from-gif-22212023

[pure vale]

I need marvel to have Bobcat Goldfhwait voice Mojo before he dies. Please mr. Feige 🙏

[safe berry]

https://fxtwitter.com/brookstweetz/status/1920283164657832085

Brooks | 🏳️‍🌈 (@brookstweetz)

What if Andor S2 ends like this but it cuts to Dedra working on the Death Star

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FxTwitter · May 8, 2025, 1:02 AM

[unreal veldt]

It'd be peak

[pure vale]

@thin raft would that suffice as atoms?

[forest quest]

Ngl, kind of expected more from that Star Wars Explained video

Thought it was gonna be 20-30 min and it was only 6

[glossy cove]

https://fixupx.com/SWFT_Edits/status/1920535053760614571

SWFT (@SWFT_Edits)

Syril's character journey in 2 minutes!

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FixupX · May 8, 2025, 5:43 PM

https://x.com/_stardustem/status/1920152945674629126

Emily | syril karn defection arc save me (@_stardustem) on X

#andor
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Syril didn’t quite make it to the rebellion but his blaster did, the little piece of what could have been

X · May 7, 2025, 4:25 PM

[cloud narwhal]

Vel probably recognised the Preox Morlana pistol from her time with Cassian on Aldhani

I love how little details like this don’t get forgotten

[fluid phoenix]

I might be in the minority but I really am glad he didn't get a redemption arc and I genuinely don't think he deserved it

[cloud narwhal]

He doesn’t deserve one

I was betting on him fully dying as a nobody

And he did

Because it’s meant to show that Nazis who just “followed orders” were part of the problem

[fluid phoenix]

I think everything leading up to A New Hope is about the sacrifice it takes to reach a point where change is possible

[cloud narwhal]

Cassian’s arc in Rogue One makes more and more sense the closer we get to the ending of Andor

[fluid phoenix]

Maybe some point down the line Syril could've grown up in an environment where he realized what he was doing was wrong. But he was never in that space here and now. He was always cannon fodder.

[cloud narwhal]

He gave everything for the cause

Including part of his humanity

And compassion

Because of how much he lost

He relearns to care through Jyn

[fluid phoenix]

You can tell Bix leaving is really what sealed the deal

[cloud narwhal]

There’s really nothing for him anymore but the cause

I feel like Vel is in a similar boat

[fluid phoenix]

Also I forgot to mention but I think the force healer was the perfect level of mysticism this show was allowed to have

[cloud narwhal]

I absolutely loved it

Because it wasn’t magic

It was just a feeling

[fluid phoenix]

I like that she was clearly not a Jedi, but just like a woman who knows she has some connection to the force and is trying to foster it for good

But it's completely out of her control

[cloud narwhal]

I love how him being called a messenger connects back to Melshi telling him to tell people what happened at Narkina 5

I love when previous arcs still have relevance and payoffs even after so long

How Cass mentions that him and Vel are the only survivors of the Aldhani heist

[fluid phoenix]

I think the best thing Rogue One and this show reinforced is that there are no small roles

[cloud narwhal]

It fits with the themes of the average person helping with the cause no matter how minor their role is

We saw it with the technicians in the senate building

Bellhop

He was just some random kid Cassian connected to and he remembered him and helped him

[fluid phoenix]

I hate to say I've gotten so out of the loop that I don't know what these tweet parodies are of anymore 😭

[fluid phoenix]

man they would've been so much more successful if they gave the guy a random ring with the rebel logo on it and then had him hold up a broom so that it looked like a lightsaber

would've been a lot more subtle and effective

[cloud narwhal]

I am so normal about the quote “rebellions are built on hope” being something Cassian adopts from just a random kid who he sympathised with

[fluid phoenix]

Again though it's just so good seeing that the reward for being a rebel isn't going on fun goofy missions it's the feeling of not being afraid. It's knowing that you can speak the truth, it's believing that you can make a difference.

[glossy cove]

https://fixupx.com/CobaltGreen1138/status/1920158461398020106

Cobalt 🟢🇧🇩🟢🇧🇩🛰️🟢 (@CobaltGreen1138)

Okay so Mon's speech in Andor IS intended to be a retcon of what we hear in Rebels. They were originally only going to show bits & pieces in Andor to allow for the Rebels segment to fit in, but Genevieve asked for the full speech and Dan Gilroy didn't want to do the Rebels speech

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FixupX · May 7, 2025, 4:47 PM

[cloud narwhal]

It’s gonna probably be remembered as a weird little inconsistency

[glossy cove]

Ngl, that speech that is getting retconned in that Rebels episode is pretty tame

[cloud narwhal]

Everything else they fit as best they can

Also whoever cast Erskin

[glossy cove]

Like, its funny that Mon Mothma is like "The Emperor is bad, actually" and the Empire is suddenly on the warpath

[cloud narwhal]

Deserves an award

He looks exactly the same as his Rebels version

[glossy cove]

Whoever translated him to live action locked the fuck in

[fluid phoenix]

Hang on now I'm lost

Rebels didn't show her speech in the senate right?

She gave a separate "I'm quitting my job and becoming a rebel" speech after the fact in that show right?

[cosmic marlin]

They did but only part of it

[fluid phoenix]

oh okay I see now

[cosmic marlin]

I assume that’s what they are referring too with what’s being retconned because it’s really only similar in emperor bad and Ghormans dead

[pure vale]

That poor little bastard

[fluid phoenix]

Yeah this is much more impactful than that two second clip, even in the slight writing difference

[cloud narwhal]

I forgot did he die from the detonator he threw

[pure vale]

I…don’t remember

[glossy cove]

I assume so

[cosmic marlin]

I didn’t think so, but he probably died on the aftermath still

[cloud narwhal]

I know he told somebody to move then he threw one

[pure vale]

Probably? That explosion was huge

[glossy cove]

Yeah, he screwed up his eyes as it went off so I think he knew he was gonna die

https://fixupx.com/Readingforknow1/status/1920498321589735572

Editor (@Readingforknow1)

Noticing the corporate issue blaster pistol, Vel looks up, scanning the crowd of new recruits. “Who belongs to this?” she asks.
︀︀
︀︀“I think that’s mine,” a voice comes with a raised hand from the back, as the camera pulls in to reveal

Quoting Nude Gunray (@nude_gunray)
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Syril Karn would never join the Rebellion, but Linus Mosk absolutely would have.

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FixupX · May 8, 2025, 3:17 PM

Honestly, I would have loved to see Mosk defect

[cloud narwhal]

Longest living Andor/Rogue One character

[cosmic marlin]

Who was that guy?

In that scene at the end

[cloud narwhal]

A thing that haunts me is Rylaz asking Syril “what kind of a being are you”

It’s the prequel to “who are you?”

[glossy cove]

He was the Pre Mors Sergant that went with Syril to Ferrix

He also got drunk after the riot in the finale

[cloud narwhal]

It’s what escalates Syril’s inner conflict

[glossy cove]

ohhhh that's a good point

[cosmic marlin]

I’m not talking about Mosk in the image, I mean at the end of the episode in Andor the scene the tweet is referencing

[glossy cove]

OH

lmao

[cloud narwhal]

This also perfectly dehumanised him on a same level as the ISB and the Empire did

[thick lava]

Syril deserved his death for ditching Mosk

[fluid phoenix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMpuXaJgD7Y&ab_channel=StarWars

[cloud narwhal]

I started watching these

Some of the best BTS since the LOTR trilogy

[fluid phoenix]

I was wondering where that senate building was irl

It's very pretty, but the practical sets do make the okayish cgi moments stand out more

the first shot of the kx droids I said "oof that's rough" out loud I won't lie

But when you know how to direct a scene it really stops mattering

[pure vale]

The fence parking lot thing outside was in Spain

[fluid phoenix]

right that's what the video says

[pure vale]

I only learned that yesterday

[fluid phoenix]

also fence parking lot is an insane description

[pure vale]

Is it wrong tho

[fluid phoenix]

it's not exactly what most people would think of no

[pure vale]

Well idk what else to call it

[cloud narwhal]

I’m interested most in what is gonna happen with Vel and Wil

[fluid phoenix]

death probably

[cloud narwhal]

Wil is someone Cassian loves a lot

And at this point he’s a pretty good operative

I don’t doubt he’s gonna be gone by the time the show wraps up

[fluid phoenix]

maybe his injury will force him to retire

😃

[cloud narwhal]

Could be

Retired at age 24

How horrific the Ghorman massacre was he was an absolute legend

He was on his own in the middle of the plaza and managed to get out even after the KX droids got sent out

[safe berry]

blud even went back for the ghormussy and lived

[cloud narwhal]

His rizz protected him from being shot by stormtroopers

[forest quest]

Ok so I’ve reread the comic

I still think it’s a good story

And it could still fit in canon if we just assume K2 got captured by the Empire sometime between this arc and the final one and got updates (like moving the kill switch from his neck to his butt), and Cassian just so happens to find him again on this mission, being more intent on reprogramming him given his familiarity with him

I did it. I beat Star Wars.

[cloud narwhal]

Best thing to do is to not care

Disney doesn’t consider the stories of Republic Commando and KOTOR canon but I do

[crisp wing]

The only bad thing about this show is that it created a new type of Holier than thou Star Wars Fans

[cloud narwhal]

Which is weirdly not part of Fandom Menace

Because they’re too busy jerking the Empire off to accept they’re ruthless fascists

[glossy cove]

Personally, I prefer those over the Manchildren

You'll never hear a Andor Fan saying the Empire were actually the good guys because Palpatine was secretly planning for the Yuuzhon Vong

[thin raft]

i’ll take elitist snobs over actual nazis

the bar is in hell

[cloud narwhal]

I’ll take snobs because movie snobs are everywhere over people trying to convince me a story about Luke farting in a jar and making a force clone of Anaking from it is somehow better than anything Disney made

[safe berry]

What makes Syril's fate even more tragic is the fact he was pregnant when he died

[pure vale]

He died from heartbreak because of what Cassian said

[glossy cove]

Dedra when Baby Shoes, never worn

https://tenor.com/view/feeling-tense-dedra-meero-andor-stressed-i-can't-breathe-gif-17013084010479174572

[forest quest]

Idk if this is a hot take but Syril’s death was incredibly funny

[thin raft]

it was gonna be funny no matter what

i wouldve laughed if not at the pure shock of the entire rest of the scene

unrelated but im thinking about how B2 was just left behind on the farms

he was alr so anxious ab being left behind

[cloud narwhal]

This is the first time a Star Wars scene made me genuinely uncomfortable when I watched it

Syril’s death always had to be pathetic just like he was

I’m glad because it kinda solidified him as one of the best villains of the franchise

Just a sad pathetic little man who was used by a fascist regime because he’s too stupid to see how terrible the fascists he supports are

[glossy cove]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-shapiro-walking-gif-21499133