Andor

[solemn pumice]

https://x.com/flamryn/status/1914867992263057700?t=Dq7nS4pO4EE37NspeRqvlQ&s=19

Seteth 🫐 (@flamryn) on X

Mild #AndorS2 spoilers

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Mon subplot: My daughter is getting married!
Cassian subplot:

X · Apr 23, 2025, 2:24 AM

[cloud narwhal]

I’d love to see the average SW chud’s opinion on the Mina Rau plotline

I love how unfiltered this show is with its political themes

They don’t even use any Star Warsified names for visas, they just call them that

Not to mention the propaganda reel of the Ghorman

[solemn pumice]

So all this happens at the same time as rebels s2. Trying to think of what crazy events would be happening at the same time

So i assume the actual ghorman massacre won't happen until arc 3?
Considering mothma leaves the senate during rebels s3. Which is 2bby

Yavin base also isn't established until 2bby

[forest quest]

I want to know exactly between which Rebels episodes these arcs take place. Otherwise the show will suck

[glossy cove]

Me: Man, I don't know how I feel about this comedic TIE stealing sequence. Is the rest of the Season going to be this comedic?
The Attempted Rape Scene in Episode 3:

[forest quest]

I see that one YouTuber pushing back against the scene being included and I’m wondering if he was also against Shadows of the Empire

[glossy cove]

Thinking about how good Andor handled this compared to Rebel Moon

Zack Snyder is such a untalented creator that he used it because he's too lazy to find meaningful ways to make his bad guys bad other than that they do shit like this

[cloud narwhal]

I hated how he was screaming during that entire brawl

[solemn pumice]

Not really a high bar for comparison

[cloud narwhal]

He’s such a creep

[solemn pumice]

Rebel moon in dogshit in everything it does

[glossy cove]

Meanwhile, Andor earned the right to handle a topic like this

And it wasn't something done to make Cassian look good

If Cassian had shown up to save Bix I probably would have stopped watching, but instead Bix saves herself and its a moment of catharsis for her character arc as a whole

[forest quest]

Yeah Cassian just so happens to arrive not knowing what happened

[cloud narwhal]

I like that Paak helps her but doesn’t directly save her

[glossy cove]

"Mom? Can I have the TIE Avenger?"
"No sweety, we have the TIE Avenger at home"
TIE Avenger at home:

[forest quest]

Mon Mothma be like

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-dance-dancing-swag-star-wars-gif-10476760

[solemn pumice]

Do people just forget there's like two scenes of implied rape in the clone wars though.
And the whole sex slaves bit in rotj.
Like andor isn't unique for its inclusion. It's just more explicitly 😭

[forest quest]

TCW one is pretty weird because Ahsoka is a minor and the adults are using her as bait. And one of the adult Zygerian guys even mentions how beautiful he thinks she looks 🤢

[solemn pumice]

I was not referring to ahsoka 💀

[forest quest]

Oh I see you said implied r*** I missed that bit

I just saw the slaves part

[solemn pumice]

Like

[glossy cove]

JESUS

[forest quest]

I’m not sure I ever noticed this

[glossy cove]

I didn't pick up on that with Satine

That makes TCW's handling of her even more fucked

[solemn pumice]

When she's captured she looks like this

Then when we get back to her later she's like this. Her hair specifically been fucked with and clothes are torn like theyve been pulled on/beaten

[glossy cove]

Oh wait, that was post escape

Nevermind

[forest quest]

With Satine I thought it was just her berating a Mauldalorian for following an evil person

[solemn pumice]

The implication is that the death watch troopers were repeatedly coming back to assault her. Probably in multiple ways.
The damage on her clothes is to reflect that something happened.
But they've never been shy about basically saying death watch rape their female captives

[glossy cove]

This does make me hate the Mando stuff in TCW even more

Feels like they threw out the Pacifist Mandos even faster because "I WANT WARRIOR MANDOS!!!!"

[toxic wolf]

PEAK

PEAAAAK

[fluid phoenix]

...haven't they? Cause this is the first I've heard of this

[solemn pumice]

💀

[fluid phoenix]

They're from a kid's show man, I don't think they were being explicit about rape 😭

[solemn pumice]

Literally the second image 😭

[glossy cove]

I mean, they were taken as slaves

That's probably bad enough that you don't have to bring up rape

[fluid phoenix]

Generally in lots of less mature media they'll still use women getting stolen as a thing bad guys just do because they're seen as collateral and weaker than men

[glossy cove]

Yeah

[fluid phoenix]

And I always thought Satine was just getting generally tortured

Since in other star wars media that's just what the bad guys do, there's never a direct implication of sexual assault

[glossy cove]

Yup

[vague cave]

https://tenor.com/view/chdanvers2-succession-shiv-sarah-snook-gif-12985903323153635553

[cloud narwhal]

The way she looks so hollow

[fluid phoenix]

I really do think the three episode release allowed for a perfect build up

[fluid phoenix]

I was always for this release schedule you don't gotta throw that at me 😭

[solemn heath]

Especially since Maul would want that to draw Kenobi out

[fluid phoenix]

I was just gonna say I really like how they didn't skimp out on any of the small moments between characters. I think that's the strongest element of the format they're playing in, they have a lot to say and they're using every second to tell the story they want to. Versus other shows that sometimes really feel like they're dragging to fill out the space.

[glossy cove]

I probably could criticize Andor for having their Lesbian couple be handled the way it is, but I think it works at showing how Cinta is a bad timeline Andor

You can see really clearly how in Rogue One Cassian saw what he was doing and realized he had failed to actually do good for the Rebellion instead of doing whatever it took to win

Meanwhile, Cinta will show up on Chandrilla to assassinate Tay but not support Val in a emotionally awful time

Like, she's been forced to go back to a oppressive culture that's definately homophobic, but Cinta only showed up because Luthen asked her to do a job

It's really interesting how Chandrilla culture has this cute, artsy astetic but under the surface pretty much everyone hurts under it but just goes along with it because "wE'lL iTs tRaDiTiOn"

[fluid phoenix]

God I love this whole Chandrilla storyline

I think it's such a good use of how many types of stories you could tell in SW

And so relevant now watching young people get swept up by propaganda back into old traditional mindsets despite how much older generations keep insisting that they don't have to do this to be happy.

[safe berry]

It's strange seeing homophobia in Star Wars

[glossy cove]

It's really funny how Star Wars handles it

Like, sure the Empire is racist but there's a lot of openly gay characters

Grey may call every Alien he sees a Slur, but he's a loving husband

Since Andor has a fuck ton of subtext, you definately pick up on the fact that Val is very emotionally distraught about having to go back into the closet to support a fucking child marriage

[safe berry]

Is the empire openly accepting or is it like a 'don't ask, don't tell' sort of thing

[vague cave]

This show really explores the depths of things with the imperial conflict as well. You get people who are from the empire that end up split between feelings, or people that just fall into an awful tyrannical system that would otherwise be normal people.

[glossy cove]

I mainly remember that the Lesbian Governor from Lords of the Sith was probably closeted, but Grey is married

Like, I assume that its pretty much subtext because its Disney being Disney

But its really funny that LGBTQ Imperials exist

The Facist Empire destroying the Galaxy may be racist, but they aren't homophobic 😭

[safe berry]

"I can excuse ghorman genocide but I draw the line at homophobia"

[vague cave]

I like the part at the start of the season where the Imperial engineer admits to Cassian that she had fun within the Empire and doesn’t want to give up her life, but Cassian understands and helps her see the full picture.

[thick lava]

can't forget the child murders

[vague cave]

Hopefully in the next arc Cassian gets to be fully in the action and not sidelined 😭

Though it’s understandable why he was here

[safe berry]

Historically there's precedent for gay Nazis but I don't know if Disney has the balls to portray what realistically happens to those people in the end

I think they're happy selling rainbow colored stormtrooper funko pops every june

[fluid phoenix]

Well they were

Who knows if they'll bother anymore

[vague cave]

https://tenor.com/view/the-empire-is-pretty-chill-darth-vader-star-wars-detours-star-wars-gif-20346451

Maybe the Empire has a point

[unreal veldt]

The Gay Trooper

[finite turtle]

They all look so tired at the end T.T

[solemn heath]

He’s such a malewife failure I love it

[glossy cove]

LMAO

✨ Character Progression ✨

[cloud narwhal]

He probably calls Dedra mommy

[glossy cove]

What do you mean probably?

[crisp wing]

So…

that is definitely gonna be interesting topic in sci fi circles for the rest of the year

[cloud narwhal]

You mean the SA scene?

[solemn heath]

Probably?

He DOES

[crisp wing]

Yeah

[cloud narwhal]

I cannot get over how uncomfortable the dude made me

With his screams and everything

[glossy cove]

Yeah

It might be the darkest moment in the show so far

[late ice]

Just made this today

I absolutely hate the way Twitter is reacting to the bix scene

[cloud narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-reaction-spongebob-didnt-need-to-see-that-gif-14206634

Who woulda guessed the dude who complained about Andor having bricks and screws is complaining that a fascist is also a disgusting pervert

[late ice]

@cloud narwhal Yeah I HATE StarWarsTheory's takes on pretty much everything. I have been Raped before and Andor Season 2 handles the subject matter very tastefully

[glossy cove]

Would would have guessed that the Andrew Tate fan got upset about the show handling attempted rape

[glossy cove]

That really sucks. It's awful that happened to you.

[cloud narwhal]

Also, Vader isn’t the entirety of the Empre, he’s just a personification of its oppression in the OT. This scene shows how a member of a military of a fascistic regime has this type of power without the fear of consequences

Which is very accurate to real life

[glossy cove]

I also think that the thing that makes that scene stand out to me is that this is one of the only times where it feels like a Male writers didn't fumble the subject matter

[cloud narwhal]

Vader wasn’t even really that known among the average low level grunt like the ones we see in Andor

They knew he existed

But who or what he was

It was like a boogyman

[glossy cove]

It's not a scene about making the Empire look bad or propping up another character or giving them Man Pain™️

It's a scene about Bix reclaiming her autonomy from the Empire using her own abilities

[late ice]

I feel that my favorite franchise trying to bring awareness to a very serious subject matter and excelling at without being overly gratuitous is something that should be applauded not silenced.

[glossy cove]

EXACTLY

[cloud narwhal]

I absolutely love that she wasn’t saved by Cassian or Brasso

Or even Paak

But she saved herself

Also don’t these mfs complain about there not being an R-rated Star Wars show

[late ice]

Yes but they want it to be rated R for over the top gore

[glossy cove]

Yeah

[cloud narwhal]

I’m happy we have Bix because she’s pretty much the perfect badass female character

It’s why I hope she actually kills Gorst

[glossy cove]

true!

[late ice]

I love the quote from Andor season one "I wouldn't worry. She's tougher than both of us." - Cassian

[cloud narwhal]

She survived the Imagine Dragons torture headphones while the ISB said that one of Kregyr’s pilots started talking immediately

[frail steppe]

Isn’t this guy also a Fandom Menace guy

[glossy cove]

Yes

[frail steppe]

He makes a lot of hate videos on the Sequels

[cloud narwhal]

SWT yes

[thick lava]

Thyroid

[frail steppe]

No I meant the Schaffrillas guy

Schmungous

[glossy cove]

No lmao

[frail steppe]

Or whatever you spell that name like

[glossy cove]

Schafrillas can be cringe, but he's not a Fandom Menace guy

[cloud narwhal]

He has some stupid opinions nut he’s definitely not Fandom Menace

Mostly stems from him being a theatre kid

[frail steppe]

But his videos on the SW sequels

[cloud narwhal]

What about them?

[frail steppe]

The entire hatred thing

[cloud narwhal]

His criticism are very valid

I watched them all

They’re on the filmmaking and writing side like most of his videos

[frail steppe]

Didn’t he once make a video about why TLJ is the worst thing ever like other YouTubers or am I thinking of someone else.

[cloud narwhal]

His TLJ video is literally titled “A beautiful mess”

[frail steppe]

In that case I’m thinking of someone else but regardless he never struck me as a good guy.

[glossy cove]

He's American so that's probably why

lmao

[cloud narwhal]

Schafrillas is one of the better movie reviewers out there

He’s pretty level-headed

I have no clue where you’re getting any of this

[solemn heath]

He is nowadays but his earlier stuff wasn't as much

[cloud narwhal]

I didn’t watch the old old stuff

[solemn heath]

I did

Before he did hate hate TLJ for the bs reasons

[solemn pumice]

I find him annoying as fuck.
Like he's not as bad as most fuckers online. But I'd still rather blow my brains out than watch him.

[cloud narwhal]

His main problem is he sees everything from exclusively the theatre kid perspective

[solemn pumice]

And theatre kids should be put to death

[cloud narwhal]

As for the typical Fandom Menace shit, nothing much

I wouldn’t put him in the same boat as SWT at all

Or even those people who do 7h long videos nitpicking every single minute logic error

[solemn pumice]

I'd personally say he's about as annoying as swt. But he's on a different ship

Different type of annoying

[cloud narwhal]

I think SWT is way way more harmful to general discourse than he is

Coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb type shit

[glossy cove]

Schafrillas's most annoying trait is that sometimes he's just wrong

SWT's most annoying trait is opening his mouth

[cloud narwhal]

SWT and Fandom menace’s main issue is they harm the vary nature a lot of public places talk about Star Wars

They shift the discourse into something completely meaningless

[solemn pumice]

I primarily just think he's annoying about his opinions.
And its like okay, good for you. Fuck off.
Also the fact the few people I've met who legitimately like his content are all shitty human beings

[cloud narwhal]

I dunno I think being stupid and wrong is harmless compared to literally shifting the way people discuss and criticise Star Wars media

[solemn pumice]

Well that's my point. I think he's as annoying as swt. But he's not as bad

[vague cave]

SWT has brain worms and that’s as far as that goes

[glossy cove]

Pretty sure this eclipses Schafrillas just being wrong about BCS (the only truly cringe thing I've seen him say)

[cloud narwhal]

Bricks and screws

[glossy cove]

Do you think SWT got his brain worms from RFK

[vague cave]

Pretty sure the doctors would diagnose him has criminally stupid

[solemn pumice]

But i do think he falls almost in the moist critical affect. Where people hold his opinions way too highly and use them to justify shitty takes. When he's just a dumbass on the Internet

[cloud narwhal]

This is why I use they/them when I refer to SWT because I am talking about him and his brain worm

[vague cave]

I hate talking about him or any of the blah blah people, but it’s the literal toddler mindset of “wow big explosion action sequence, clone and Jedi lightsaber attack? Now this is epic”

The less meaningful substance the better

If StarWars isn’t like me using my literal action figures to fight what even is the point

[cloud narwhal]

This us the exact same way I see those people who want an R-rated Clone show

Mf you already have a clone show

And it’s perfectly fine with its tone

[glossy cove]

I kind of get that frustration tbh

Like, my pipe dream is a Clone focused show following them as individuals throughout galactic history

Because TCW proved to a wide audience that they could carry stories by themselves

TBB was very close to that, but the Bad Batch are so divorced from normal Clones that it makes sense why filler in that show turns out to be better than the rest of it

https://tenor.com/view/looking-up-darth-sidious-sheev-palpatine-star-wars-the-bad-batch-evil-look-gif-8987608305275442178

[cloud narwhal]

I get the core reason, people love the clones and want more individual stories with them, but their reason is filled with childish daydreams

[glossy cove]

Yeah

Most people just want more action slop

[solemn pumice]

i love twitter

[fluid phoenix]

I'M GONNA FUCKING BLOW MY BRAINS OUT WHAT EVEN IS THAT TAKE I HATE STAR WARS FANS AGHHHHH

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-register-banging-head-cash-gif-5462519

[cloud narwhal]

These same mfs will call themselves the true SW fans

[glossy cove]

The same people who will scream and cry about a actor saying Anakin blew up the Death Star will forget that he killed Children

[fluid phoenix]

I can't fucking comprehend how you can genuinely say "hey now, the Empire wouldn't be evil!" unironically

[solemn pumice]

i just like the idea that "vader wouldn't tolerate it". like he was in the fucking room

[cloud narwhal]

Vader has all the time in his life to worry about what some random ass Imperial officer does while he searches for illegal immigrants

[fluid phoenix]

Like genuinely these men, cause they're always men, are all incapable of hiding that below the surface they so desperately wanna be the nazis. It doesn't matter how explicitly wrong and terrible the Empire is, they will find any excuse to think it's cool to cosplay fascism and are more upset by the idea that they've been implicated alongside rapists as a result than the fact that this shit actually happens all the time.

[cloud narwhal]

I try my best not to talk about these people but I really think we hit a new low even if I thought the bricks and screws argument was the lowest we could go regarding the discussion of Star Wars media, the masks are officially off and we can see they only care about what every incel man going through the alt right pipeline cares about

They don’t care about the themes, stories, likable characters, multidimensional villains, nothing a normal person cares about when it comes ti stories, they only care about their favourite fascist militaristic factions and the characters with the most aura getting their hype moments

[safe berry]

He was remembering the movie like this

[fluid phoenix]

Also completely disregarding all the horrible murder Vader has done, bro was giving rapey vibes as Anakin years prior I don't know what the hell white knight savior shit they think he was on but bro was not respecting boundaries

[unreal veldt]

This part was funny

[cloud narwhal]

I need to accept that these people fundamentally consume media differently than I or most people here do, they don’t watch this shit to think or to experience a story, they watch it to seek the highs of their male power fantasies

[fluid phoenix]

It's why I can't stand the commonly accepted perspective that Anakin was somehow forced into being Vader. That he was somehow the real victim. It feels like so many men are just looking for a reason not to feel bad about relating to him.

Like I had that phase in middle school too, you gotta grow up and realize that he was self sabotaging every step of the way

[solemn pumice]

i feel like the perspective that anakin was a victim and that his downfall into vader was entirely of his own making can both exist.

[fluid phoenix]

It's not that he isn't a victim, but they treat it like he was the victim

[solemn pumice]

just that the people who only believe the former don't read into anything or understand why anakin is the way he is

[fluid phoenix]

The issue I have is that people have more sympathy for the guy choking out his wife than the woman getting choked out by her husband

[vague cave]

💀

[cloud narwhal]

On top of everything

They sometimes even excuse his actions because of how the Jedi Order treated him

[fluid phoenix]

"Bro if I was disrespected like that, if someone told me to take a seat like that, bro I'd probably kill my wife too"

[cloud narwhal]

These same people condemn the Rebellion for destroying the Death Star

[fluid phoenix]

the kinda people that always say "if I could play devil's advocate" for every conversation

[cloud narwhal]

There’s a reason why the biggest sin to them is that the main character of the ST was a woman who was good at things

Because they desperately wanted a man in that position

[solemn pumice]

whats the fuck head who was defending Shameik Moore here awhile ago.
its the same thing, they see themself in these people and character. and instead of looking in and fixing themselves. they jump to defend and project onto weirdos

it can never be their fault that they're weird and make people uncomfortable. it has to be a issue with somebody else

[forest quest]

It’s times like this I wish George Lucas left in Padme trying to stab Anakin

[solemn pumice]

that would not have helped

i can see it now, they'd be arguing anakin was in the right and was justified in choking padme, because she tried to kill him

[fluid phoenix]

"Bro she came at him with a knife, I know he's taller and stronger than her and he has telekinetic powers, but he was just defending himself!"

[solemn pumice]

"padme trying to kill him came out of nowhere. you'd think he just murdered some children or something the way she was going at him"

[fluid phoenix]

"so much for the tolerant left"

[forest quest]

I wish wish George Lucas would get on a Star Wars Theory interview just to call him a loser

[solemn heath]

New reaction image dropped

Reacting to someone’s fit

[finite turtle]

I loved how they tried to rotate the tie fighter

perfect mix of stupid and ingenious

I also loved that the ships sent after Andor were the Tie Advanced prototypes from rebels

it kinda shows how purposeful a lot of the choices are

I wonder if the first episode of every arc will be called One Year Later

[vague cave]

The transition to Syril and Dedra in episode 3 is definitely one of the funniest things I’ve seen

[pure vale]

Does anyone have a pic of Syril on his bed?

[pure vale]

Beautiful. Thank you

[unreal veldt]

No problem

[fluid phoenix]

I love my sister

[solemn heath]

What half the fandom thinks what would happen if Vader was there

[pure vale]

Wait is that a debate or something?

[fluid phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/atlantis-you-dont-want-to-gif-26076225

[pure vale]

https://tenor.com/view/kowalski-noted-penguins-penguins-of-madagascar-gif-1306663699157096677

I don’t like this gif

[zinc sluice]

It has always seemed to me that SWT, and a whole number of other SW fans, have weirdly self inserted into Darth Vader (and by extension, the Empire)

So then they glaze these fully evil characters acting like they're good people

He likes to glaze Vader and go "he wouldn't tolerate that"

Like dawg Vader of all people would try to justify the action

This dude choked out his wife because he felt she was betraying him

Darth Vader is the type of dude who would blame an SA victim for what they were wearing

[solemn pumice]

it's pretty obvious for SWT specifically that he cares for nothing in star wars other than vader and anything directly adjacent to it.
He doesn't like the idea that vader or anakin could possibly be a legitimately bad person. Because he projects himself way too much onto him.

Also not to act like I think vader pro rape. I don't think he is even remotely. But like, bro isn't in the equation here. To act like he is just screams insecurity

Also not even to get into the fact vader explicitly ignored elements of the empire that enraged him as anakin.
Like the fact the empire actively engages in slavery

[glossy cove]

YEAH

[glossy cove]

My favorite bit of Legends Vader is that he was about to throw hands about Imperial Slavery, but after Palpatine said it was a necessary evil he gave up

[zinc sluice]

He's not pro rape, but he 100% victim blames

[safe berry]

Tbh I think the fandom puts too much legitimacy into Theory's stupid takes when he's a disingenuous waverider who will say just about anything for engagement. For pretty much all of these reactionary channels it's not even about the media they talk about anymore it's primarily just throwing meat to their base

The people who follow these channels are more reflective of the broader issues with the fandom than the creators themselves

[fluid phoenix]

I always consider him a grifter, but the fact that his grifts work is always upsetting

[solemn pumice]

I think swt a grifter. But I also legitimately believe he's stupid enough to believe everything he says.
He's not like xqc or Asmongold who are grifters. But are too brain dead to actually believe in anything

[kind lintel]

So why is people getting worked up exactly?

[fluid phoenix]

Cause they don't like when a show challenges them in any way

[kind lintel]

I figured that be the case.

It’s pretty ridiculous.

I been hearing good things about the show.

Not negative stuff really.

[cloud narwhal]

Quite literally the only negative things are coming from grifters and Fandom Menace people as usual

[kind lintel]

Eh I pay no attention to those guys.

I try to avoid drama channels nowadays.

Only people I do watch would be stupendous studio wave, greedo, SWT, Star Wars Comics & a few others.

[cloud narwhal]

I think this season in the very first arc already dramatically pushes themes forward

Immigration is a huge one because of how relevant it is

[kind lintel]

Andor is pretty dark which is the point of the show.

Especially with the Empire.

I was already excited seeing Vader in the trailer.

Also RIP James.

We wish you were still here.

[cloud narwhal]

There was a trailer with Vader?

What

[kind lintel]

I could have sworn I saw Vader in it.

Unless someone duped me.

Probably a fan trailer.

[cloud narwhal]

I’ve autistically overanalysed every official and leaked piece of footage for this show and not once did I see Vader

Nor do I want to tbh

[fluid phoenix]

Yeah he wasn't in any

There was some speculation cause there's like a shot of Dedra looking like she's choking

[kind lintel]

Yeah I went to search.

I was tricked.

[pure vale]

He’s right behind you

[kind lintel]

YouTuber clickbait

[cloud narwhal]

I hope that’s Andor’s version of the mandated realistic panic attack

[kind lintel]

It was obviously this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW6BfBIjDC8

Yeah it was an edit.

Saw other trailers.

[solemn pumice]

I mean. There was also speculation that inquisitors would be in the show.
But was also pretty clear it was just the prototype ties existed on the base

[pure vale]

Inquisitors would be pointless in this

[kind lintel]

So far the trailer showed stormtroopers & all that.

But no Vader.

So doesn’t look like he’ll be in it.

[solemn pumice]

Maybe Syril mother will awaken to the force and choke dedra out

What if she was a sith lord all along

[kind lintel]

Shrugs

[pure vale]

Too evil

[fluid phoenix]

Darth Karen

[kind lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/lightsaber-dark-lord-darth-sith-sith-lord-gif-1399136088350250687

[pure vale]

Darth Mommy Issues

[kind lintel]

Imagine a woman named Darth Karen.

[fluid phoenix]

Darth Oedipus

[cloud narwhal]

I like that we actually saw Sienar

[crisp wing]

This reminds me of when I was in a Star Wars RP Server and I wanted to play a sith but they wouldn’t let me choose my own name cuz of some symbolic bullshit with Sith Names

It honestly pissed me off lmao

[solemn pumice]

You know i love how dedra and syril romance is just evil. Like they're homelife is perfect in a uneasy and disturbing way

[sweet owl]

Darth Cerberus. Always what I pick.

[solemn pumice]

Tbh part of me hoped this would just be syril and dedra relationship

[fluid phoenix]

They are so deadly committed to making sure every single thing in that apartment is black or white with a little grey it's so perfectly weird

[cloud narwhal]

When two severely mentally ill people get together

[solemn pumice]

But like, when they were preparing for syril mother. Everything felt like it was a systematic transaction.

They're just so fucking bizzare.
Like the most corporate couple to ever exist

[solemn heath]

How the Star Wars fandom thinks sexual consent should go:

[crisp wing]

I wanted to play a character to called Darth Rakul (Named after the Angel of Justice/Vengeance from The Bible)

Usually whenever I play a Dark Side character in like a TTRPG I decide to have them be characters who turn to the Dark Side with good intentions like my Dark Jedi Mando character who relies on the Dark Side to protect his Clan and those who cannot defend themselves.

That’s what I tried going for with Rakul but nobody would let me use him anywhere

[cloud narwhal]

I love how Cassian looks visibly annoyed while he’s being held hostage by the Maya Pei brigade guys

As in “holy shit these guys are fucking idiots” type of annoyed

[forest quest]

Isn’t Theory also the guy who hated how there were bricks in Andor season 1?

Dude probably fucking hates Lego Star Wars

[cloud narwhal]

Yea

His shitty fan film is all you need to watch to know how he is as a SW fan

[quick scroll]

its sooo gooood

holy shit

i forgot what it was like to feel

thank god for televised leftist infighting

[thin raft]

jesus christ

this shit getting too real

[finite turtle]

part of me worries that important stuff is getting rushed since they condensed four seasons into one, Brasso's death was probably meant to be the shocking finale death

From what I understand, each season got compressed down into a weekly arc

[cloud narwhal]

Most of the early reviewers say the only problem with that is that it leaves you wanting more

But it doesn’t compromise the show

[finite turtle]

In hindsight it's kinda batshit that we have two andor lego sets

[late ice]

true

[forest quest]

Right? Andor bricks suck

[cloud narwhal]

Maybe beating SWT over the head with Maarva's brick will finally get rid of his brainworms

[forest quest]

I wish he would get drunk

[finite turtle]

Probably preaching to the choir, but the whole death star civilian thing is dumb. It's a military target, and one that can commit complete planetary omnicide in minutes. The ReBEls aRE JuSt aS BAd as ThE EMpIRe

[forest quest]

But but but Clerks!

But actually do you think there might’ve been other prisoners still on the Death Star when it blew up?

It’d be kinda weird if Leia was the only occupied cell, right?

[finite turtle]

Besides, we saw them all get rescued in the Phineas and Ferb Crossover

[forest quest]

The opening crawl said that’s not canon

“It’s canon to me”

[finite turtle]

Probably criminals on board the station

[finite turtle]

Yeah, I was joking

[forest quest]

Also I’ve probably mentioned this before, but the one thing I thought was dumb in season 1 was the post credit scene involving the Death Star. Felt like the studio had to force them to put that in. It feels so typical blockbuster key jangling

[finite turtle]

By that I mean people stationed on the death star who broke imperial law, rather than prisoners being transfered there

That's what I hated about Project Necromancer

It's a teaser for a movie that came out Five years ago

I knew there wouldn't be any payoff to it

and there wasn't

[forest quest]

But they used the name Mount Tantiss from Legends so it’s cool!

Also no payoff for the Republic Commandos in that show. Might as well have just not been in it.

[finite turtle]

Just a bunch of misfires

[forest quest]

I sometimes feel like I’m the only one who thought Bad Batch fizzled and got boring by the end

[finite turtle]

I hated them from the start

well

hate is a strong word

[forest quest]

See I thought the show had a strong start and some good stuff in the middle

But in the final season I was just tired of clones

[finite turtle]

their clone wars arc was on par with dumped the spice

[forest quest]

it made me glad a lot of the clones either died or got left behind

[finite turtle]

I just never really grew the care about the main cast, and it felt like all the side characters were doing stuff way more interesting than the main characters

[forest quest]

It would’ve been better if instead of the Bad Batch they had the Ninja Turtles as a squad with no explanation

[finite turtle]

they were just too flat as characters

I also kinda hate how spineless bobf and Mando season 3 are.

[forest quest]

I liked season 3 more than season 2 but bobf was unforgivable

Everyone who worked on that show and let Mando take over should be fired, not get a job, lose their homes, and starve

[finite turtle]

TTo me it felt like rather than having to make tough decisions, they always got the easy way out

Mando takes a bath and gets welcomed back. Mando loses to the spider so he can give bo katan the sword, Mando and Grogu reunite off screen in another show

I'm also just tired of Bo Katan becoming leader

it's happened three times

[forest quest]

If I had a nickel for every time I was unhappy with someone becoming leader multiple times

[finite turtle]

It's the third time that does it for me

[vague cave]

Bo Katan become leader and actually keep the darksaber challenge

Impossible

They keep saying she deserves it but she clearly doesn’t

[finite turtle]

Like, second time, I get it, she reunited mandalore and reclaimed the throne

The third time just feels like retreading old ground

[forest quest]

Filoni not retreading stuff from animation for live action challenge: impossible

Throwback to when he had Ahsoka become Gandalf the White twice for some weird reason

[finite turtle]

I dunno, I've seen some folks say that it's in character for Din to not want the Darksaber, but that's conflict, literally the basis of storytelling

It just drives me up the wall how bad they fumbled it

and let's talk about the stupid Gideon Clone arc

Three Seasons of buildup and we get nothing

The first time we actually see the results of his project, they all die immediately

butt Naked in tubes

I know I'm rambling, there's just so much about season three that I hate

[glossy cove]

I think the biggest problem with the show is that divorcing the Bad Batch from normal Clones shot the show in the foot right out of the gate

In TCW, you get the Clones deal pretty fast so it's very easy for you to get invested in them because they all start out the same but become unique over time

But since the Bad Batch are actually supposed to be main characters right out of the gate, they actually have to have personality and arcs, and the show didn't really do that well in time

So you have shit like Tech developing a personality only for him to die

[solemn pumice]

You know, if this is how hard mothma parties when she's crashing the fuck out. I wonder how hard she partied after endor

[solemn heath]

https://x.com/efapaudio/status/1915253359122227576?s=46&t=nK2RzESKnrKCyg9YOGR8jQ

Every Frame A Pause (@efapaudio) on X

Darth Vader after learning about a SA in the outer rim.

X · Apr 24, 2025, 3:55 AM

[fluid phoenix]

What's that video of the girl continuing to film herself doing a tiktok dance after her mom bursts in and accuses her of sleeping with her teacher

[fading marten]

https://tenor.com/view/deleted-cat-unsent-unsend-message-gif-26266359

[fading marten]

Holy fuck that scene in episode 3 was so intense. My fucking skin crawled

[pure vale]

Mr. Wilson?

Saw a familiar face on a newspaper yesterday, and took an opportunity

[solemn pumice]

https://youtu.be/qwq0txICe04?si=Vv9yh7aQ1dBq_4ZN

[finite turtle]

Dunno if this is stupid, but why are people saying Darth Vader would care?

what's the original argument that's being made fun of?

[cloud narwhal]

SWT said that Darth Vader wouldn’t approve of it

[finite turtle]

If he was there, there would probably be a fakeout where he kills the officer before killing bix ngl

[fluid phoenix]

Literally everyone I know has all been saying that exact thing too

[thin raft]

the star wars fandom has hit rock bottom

[finite turtle]

I think it's less that he cares, and more that he wants an excuse to hurt/kill people

[cloud narwhal]

I sad this too

This is the lowest of lows where they’re complaining the Empire is being depicted as the bad guys

Like did you not watch season 1

Or all of Star Wars

#1037870396730507324 message

[solemn pumice]

I can excuse genocide but I draw the line at rape

[cloud narwhal]

This was my conclusion to all of it

[thin raft]

historical genocides are famously completely detached from sexual assault and exploitation !!!!!!!!!! no one who partakes in genocide has ever felt a power dynamic that leads to those kinds of actions !!!!!!! 😃😃😃😃

fucking brainless sacks of shit

[cloud narwhal]

Ignore how many people German soldiers raped in both world wars

Ignore how every war had soldiers do this to people they were conquering

[thin raft]

name any colonial/imperial power in history and they’ve utilized their position to conduct mass rape

how fucking dense do you need to be to think this is too far

ohhhh did the cool guys with the cool suits that you like do something a little too mean? you struggling to identify with the fascists now?

[frail steppe]

Israel and USA.

[thin raft]

wdym, most moral army in the world

[cloud narwhal]

I already said, they’re incels who desperately want the Empire to be this misunderstood faction where they just want order and only fighting the rebels because they have to because muh millions people died on the Death Star

[thin raft]

such a genuinely dangerous and backwards view of reality

[cloud narwhal]

Andor pretty much shows us the very core of how the Empire is

[thin raft]

like you’re actually just sympathizing with nazis there’s no sugarcoating it

if you’re surprised that imperialists rape, open ur fucking eyes

[cloud narwhal]

And they don’t like that their Nazi inspired faction is in fact fascistic in nature

[frail steppe]

I don’t think they understand reality and history honestly it seems more like ignorance.

[thin raft]

its definitely that

and ignorance breeds dangerous thought processes

[frail steppe]

Which is normal nowadays considering media literacy and learning is at an all time low.

[frail steppe]

It mostly just breeds an incompatible society.

I assume most of this controversy stems from the US audiences?

[cloud narwhal]

I think we’ve hit a point where there was a scene so blatantly antifa in the most openly antifa star wars project they couldn’t huff enough copium or mentally sugar coat it that their supposed favorite media franchise’s theme is against their dogshit political views

They’re finally being challenged by the media they consume and it’s catastrophic

[fluid phoenix]

What gets me the most too is not a single person is empathizing or every mentioning Bix

[glossy cove]

YEAH

[fluid phoenix]

They're more concerned with how Vader would react to the scene than the actual victim

[glossy cove]

IT'S THE FUCKING RAPIST THAT'S GETTING ALL THE ATTENTION

SW Theory really told on himself with that being the thing he gets upset over

All these losers focusing on redeeming the Empire in this situation

[cloud narwhal]

This is normal for incels, they don’t see rape victims the same as normal people because they don’t see women, sex or the power dynamic in a healthy manner

[royal flume]

i don't think anyone besides the rogue one characters are going to survive this season but i'm personally hoping bix lives after all this. god damn

[cloud narwhal]

I’m at least hoping Bix gets revenge on Gorst

[solemn pumice]

BUT YOU GOTTA THINK ABOUT HOW THE MAN WHO ISNT EVEN THERE FEELS ABOUT IT.

[cloud narwhal]

What he did to her is also very close to SA, he tortured her without an ounce of remorse and it traumatized her

Bix also did the only correct thing you should do to your rapist

Just fucking kill them

[royal flume]

"You're not the only one who lost everything.* Some of us just decided to do something about it."

*except bix, right?
...right?

[cloud narwhal]

I doubt any of Cassian’s friends from Ferrix will live

Including Bix

[royal flume]

yeah...

[cloud narwhal]

But all I want is closure for her which is repairing her relationship with Cassian and putting Gorst in his own torture device

Or well, Cassian and her already repaired it

[royal flume]

i also don't really see anyone else surviving either. i can't explain how, i just feel it

[cloud narwhal]

Brasso already bit the dust in the very first arc

[thin raft]

man rip brasso

[cloud narwhal]

I absolutely love how even when he was caught

[thin raft]

i hope bix just gets to go chill on niamos or something 😭😭😭

[cloud narwhal]

He still helped someone

And by pretending he was betrayed

[royal flume]

my prediction for the death bingo meme is that it's gonna be pretty fucking full 💀 like you said brasso's just fuckin dead already and it's only been one arc

[cloud narwhal]

Man

Thinking about it

Cassian lost his sister, his entire clan on Kenari, his father, mother, best friend, and probably ALL of his friends by the time of Rogue One

And in Rogue One he finally lost his own life

I know as soon as the final episode rolls up I am putting Rogue One on

[glossy cove]

Ngl, I didn't pick up on that and thought he had been sold out to the Imperials

[cloud narwhal]

Oh no

[thin raft]

same

[cloud narwhal]

He covered for him

[thin raft]

man.

[cloud narwhal]

The way they nodded at each other

[fluid phoenix]

I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THAT

Cause his expression was so odd I was like "wait did I miss something???"

But I see now

[cloud narwhal]

Big man Brasso even when he’s caught is helping people out

[fluid phoenix]

Brasso was a king

[cloud narwhal]

No wonder he already had a wife on Mina-Rau

[thin raft]

in hindsight as soon as he had that chat with B2 i shouldve known he was a goner

esp given he had a love interest too

[glossy cove]

Brasso was a loving wife because of his giant dick heart

[cloud narwhal]

Also bro is just huge

He’s consistently the biggest person in any shot

[glossy cove]

I really hope Mon Mothma gets a win soon because the people with good morals in this show keep dying

I know that's realistic but can at least some of them live

[cloud narwhal]

just like in real life

Looking back Brasso was always taking care of Maarva

He is just a big teddy bear

And he was willing to stay at Maarva’s house with B2 so he wasn’t alone after she had passed

[thin raft]

glad mon mothma got to get white girl wasted one last time before going into hiding

[glossy cove]

I wonder if we'll see Phoenix Cell be alluded to with saving her

Because if I remember right, she finally crosses a line with what happens in the Ghorman Massacre

[cloud narwhal]

Yep

[glossy cove]

I don't think they'll be in the show, since the show has been very careful with Fanservice

[cloud narwhal]

After her speech in the Senate she gets labelled as a traitor

[glossy cove]

Like, Saw is the biggest fanservice moment in Season 1 and he was justified in showing up

[cloud narwhal]

And no doubt that’s gonna be an intense scene

Where they need to bail her out of Coruscant

[glossy cove]

Andor so well crafted that when the team is like "Oh yeah, the Rogue One guy is here" I'm like "Well why wouldn't he be?"

Doesn't feel like a soyjack moment when the Partisans show up

[cloud narwhal]

Melshi?

Oh nvm

[glossy cove]

I unironically only noticed that Melshi was in Rogue One when people pointed that out

[cloud narwhal]

Didn’t read one of the messages

[solemn pumice]

Actually it would be called phoenix squardon at this point 🤓

[glossy cove]

Would it?

[solemn pumice]

Also mothma aid from the rebels episode already appeared

[cloud narwhal]

Yeah aren’t they a full squadron by 4 BBY

[solemn pumice]

They will be by the episode

Since it's 2 bby when mothma leaves the senate

[glossy cove]

I might need to rewatch that episode

I remember that Mothma officially leaves the Senate in that Rebels episode

[cloud narwhal]

Yeah I’ve been watching Rebels a bit

[glossy cove]

Because the Emperor has finally had enough of her being badass

[cloud narwhal]

To refresh

[glossy cove]

I keep trying to rewatch Rebels because I want to give it a fair chance, but I keep bouncing off how light it is 😭

[solemn pumice]

Also they were an active part of the rebellion in s2 onwards.
So they'd be phoenix squadron

[glossy cove]

Ezra has too much energy for me

[solemn pumice]

Skill issue

[cloud narwhal]

It has some really good moments

[glossy cove]

It is

That's why I want to rewatch it

[cloud narwhal]

And S4 is pretty decent

[glossy cove]

The Season 1 Premiere is shockingly good

Like, to the point where I could be pretentious about why its good lmao

The buildup from Imperials hassling food vendors to them just doing slavery feels very natural

Helps to show Ezra that the Empire is a much bigger problem with how they inconvienice him personally

[thin raft]

that shit was so funny

[fluid phoenix]

I was thinking of this exact thing I'm glad it was created

[solemn pumice]

https://fxtwitter.com/SheevTalks/status/1915503925916315737?t=et3RmD7zVbPp2PG1iqVhKg&s=19

Sheev Meows | THE ANDOR AGENDA (@SheevTalks)

Darth Vader when he sees one of his subordinates not respecting womens' bodily autonomy

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[solemn pumice]

Honestly cassian would 100% be justified if he launched a rocked into the middle of their group

https://youtu.be/0UEmtUP1JAM?si=CXPB4aDFAe34syIp

I always forget mothma speech was broadcasted from the bridge of the ghost

I really wonder how they're gonna handle this

[vague cave]

The “I wish you were drunk” line was cold as fuck

[pure vale]

“Hello my literal daughter. I’m here to tell you you are not mandated to get married if you don’t feel comfortable, because I care about your emotional health”
Daughter:

https://tenor.com/view/popcat-cat-meme-gif-8700208637452168117

[safe berry]

In the case of both her and syril's mom I immediately felt like damn I've met someone who's exactly like this

[pure vale]

You mean a cunt?

[toxic wolf]

I own this

[solemn heath]

You know what’s funny

My Greek grandmother acts exactly like Syril’s mother

[solemn pumice]

So like, it seems pretty apparent that dedra panic attack is gonna be tied to the ghorman massacre right?
Like she doesn't want to be involved, and its very clearly going to go beyond anything she would have actually wanted.

[cloud narwhal]

Yeah it’s clear she wants to stick to the Axis case she’s been assigned to since season 1

Maybe the Ghorman massacre is going to be her breaking point and she might get vanishes by the ISB

[vague cave]

https://tenor.com/view/succession-roman-roy-roman-romulus-explode-gif-4737980137344064301

[cloud narwhal]

I love how fruity Krennic is

https://youtu.be/lAx0SDAhpmg?si=33Z_ZCepvLlpyUa0

[vague cave]

We are so back

[safe berry]

he's such a diva with his hand gestures it's amazing

[thin raft]

he’s so cunty

rogue one did not produce a single straight male character

[vague cave]

I was so surprised Krennic appeared in the first episode

But I could never complain about more Krennic

The fact he appears in the first arc surely means his later performances are going to be peak

[cloud narwhal]

He’s having so much fun it’s so obvious

[cloud narwhal]

The way he smiled after he was choked by Vader

“Mega F[REDACTED]”
“Robo bitch”

[unreal veldt]

I wanna see why he loses his divaness as the show goes on

It's like watching Better Call Saul and seeing how our characters end up like they do in Breaking Bad

[honest mountain]

Holy shit

S2:E3 was devastating.

[solemn heath]

https://x.com/brookstweetz/status/1915584491567132980?s=46&t=nK2RzESKnrKCyg9YOGR8jQ

Brooks | 🏳️‍🌈 (@brookstweetz) on X

You guys I just realized Vader wasn’t doing this to him because he interrupted him he was doing it because he assaulted a woman

X · Apr 25, 2025, 1:51 AM

[solemn pumice]

I wish krennic got the chance to queen out with thrawn

[vague cave]

https://tenor.com/view/thrawn-star-wars-gif-19952059

[crisp wing]

Shark Tale lol

[fluid phoenix]

Lucasfilm needs to come out with a star wars baddie fashion show

[glossy cove]

https://x.com/Remnicore_/status/1915409938404221257

Remnicore | THE ANDOR AGENDA (@Remnicore_) on X

Being British in SW feels unnecessary. You can portray power dynamics and make the audience hate the empire in other ways without taking it to such a disgusting place.

Vader wouldn't tolerate that shit nor does the Empire condone it.

It has no place in Star Wars. Period.

X · Apr 24, 2025, 2:18 PM

[forest quest]

Britain’s not even part of the EU anymore

[cloud narwhal]

Put a trigger warning before posting pictures of British people

[glossy cove]

I'm sorry

You're right

[cloud narwhal]

I like how the TIE avnger heist also went horribly simply because its controls are way different than other TIE fighters’

And he was trained for the typical controls before the mission

[honest mountain]

Yep

[pure vale]

Okay I’m slow. What is the implication of Tay Kolma going in that little speeder with the woman?

[fluid phoenix]

She was gonna kill him most likely

[glossy cove]

Especially since most times when Cinta is left alone with another character, they die

Except for her girlfriend, in which case she kills their relationship

[pure vale]

Why? Idk what he said that was bad

[fluid phoenix]

Luthen knew Kolma was gonna keep asking for money to keep his mouth shut about the rebellion

[pure vale]

Ohhhhh

[glossy cove]

Also that Tay was getting cold feet about supporting the Rebellion because he was minorly inconvenienced

[fluid phoenix]

Basic series of events

• Kolma made bad investments and his wife left him so he's all fucked up feeling
• He sees Mothma's extravagant wedding and gets bitter, makes it clear that he could spill the beans on the rebellion if she doesn't share some of that wealth
• She agrees to meet next week to talk it over, but Kolma is drinking and generally unstable so who knows what he'll do before then
• Luthen finds out about this and tells Mothma that it doesn't matter what Kolma asks for now, he'll always be a liability
• RIP Kolma

[pure vale]

He was the drunk aunt at the wedding the whole time

[fluid phoenix]

What I love most about it is the way it visually conveys his confusion. Like him trying to get the seat up before realizing it senses him sitting down and pops up on its own. It's just a nice little way of making it feel like this ship is different than most when we as audience members don't really know how any ships in star wars fly

[pure vale]

God the way they portray shooting those blasters was so satisfying

[vague cave]

I love seeing characters like Luthen operate because he doesn’t always state his intentions upfront you just get to see that man put the pieces together behind the scenes and figure it out as he’s doing it

[fluid phoenix]

His reaction when Mothma said she wasn't sure what he meant was so good

"How nice for you" or whatever it was, just that like mix of pity, envy, and slight disgust

[pure vale]

😬 how nice of you

[glossy cove]

It's a good dialogue exchange

Its a good way to show that Mothma is desperately trying to cling to the moral high ground despite the show being against her, while Luthen has already made the necessary choice since he'll do anything for the Rebellion

[fleet pagoda]

Yo, the Empire is Andor is legit scary

[frail steppe]

this is how we felt in 2003 💔

[forest quest]

What was in 2003?

[fluid phoenix]

Ayham turned 2

[frail steppe]

Something funny

[safe berry]

If it was so funny maybe it should happen again

[pure vale]

I’m honestly surprised it took them two years after 9/11

[cloud narwhal]

I hope Syrill becomes an ISB agent so that we can have the Star Wars equivalent of Team Rocket

[pure vale]

I my head, the war happened like a month after

[pure vale]

How do you think she did it? Just shot him over her shoulder? Jumped out the car and let him crash?

[safe berry]

I'd like to think there's a trapdoor and she hits a button and he falls out the bottom while he hurls a looney tunes scream on the way down

[pure vale]

God I wish

[fluid phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/wile-e-coyote-gif-2559244014946089215

[cloud narwhal]

https://open.spotify.com/album/1XlWQ3Nt6x7XlJis8t3EyW?si=n17FaKVaRl-GB3cvhQzKTQ

@thin raft do your thing autistic OST woman, does it live up

[cosmic marlin]

Andor peak

[solemn pumice]

Wdym this was improvised 😭

[cosmic marlin]

He just like me frfr

[fluid phoenix]

Iconic moments in star wars that were improvised are my favorite genre

[solemn pumice]

https://fxtwitter.com/Haterment/status/1915902080511869358?t=iIy00Zzt57awEcForS1aJw&s=19

Mr Statement 🧱🔩 (@Haterment)

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[crisp wing]

I love Smosh References

[cosmic marlin]

Darth Vader when he reads about the gender wage gap

[late ice]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DI4VPZ3pB_-/?igsh=NWZtaHo1aW9sb2dx

nerd_number_1138

Niamos!!! #starwars #andor #andorseason2 #niamos

Instagram

[thin raft]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

will listen fully tn

[cloud narwhal]

I gave it a listen

On a careful listen it does sound and feel very different

[pure vale]

Bro was cookin on his own

[glossy cove]

This explains a lot about why his fan film is dogshit

[vague cave]

https://youtu.be/y6wLcx7AkRM?si=B_5BVPuONQWZv38g

[fluid phoenix]

Jesus

[fluid phoenix]

"What do I sacrifice? Do you know how many Meilooruns I don't eat so that someone else can? How many lothcats I don't get to pet while I fight this fight?"

[thin raft]

andor if it was good

[vague cave]

Who could forget this quality interaction from season one

Luthen: “I burn my life to make a sunrise that I know I’ll never see!”

Andor: “Well if that isn’t the Quacta calling the Stifling Slimy”

Wow day ruined

[cloud narwhal]

No Leia, no Vader, no Palpatine

Unwatchable

“How can I watch this there’s no Empire hype moments and Vader aura”

[pure vale]

Chopper noises
“Finally, someone who gets it.”

[unreal veldt]

"Someone willing to do anything for the cause, I don't care if he's a droid he's killed a good 300 of these bastards across the Galaxy"

[pure vale]

You know what will make Tony truly the greatest writer? Write one of the Ghost crew in Andor and make it completely organic. If you can make any of those goodballs feel natural in Andor, I will be utterly impressed

[vague cave]

We could have had a series about Vader defending women but no

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-you-have-failed-me-inquisitor-gif-26941322

“Did you know that you have rights”

[pure vale]

The empire says you do

[thin raft]

he then gave her a hug and directed her to the empire’s mental health services

[unreal veldt]

You should see what he did to his wife

[glass lichen]

Ngl but how could anyone think that Leia being in the show is fan service.

[cloud narwhal]

I forgot when did she take Bail’s place as the senator of Alderaan in the Imperial senate

[pure vale]

A really warm hug

[unreal veldt]

1 BBY

[cloud narwhal]

So realistically she could appear in the last 3 episodes

[safe berry]

I feel like her appearing would diminish the impact of her cameo in Rogue One

[cloud narwhal]

At most I wouldn’t mind Bail Organa since he was really important in the building of the Rebellion

I feel like he’d fit the tone of the show

[solemn pumice]

I'm pretty sure bail was confirmed to be in the season through a recast 💀

[cloud narwhal]

Oh that’s who the recast was about

[safe berry]

I hope that's not true

Dude has been Bail since AOTC, would be weird seeing someone else

Like at a certain point if you can't get him back then rewrite the show to not include him

[solemn pumice]

It was supposedly a scheduling conflict.
Which like, i get wanting the character. But just avoid using the character if the actor who's played him for over a decade can't make it

[vague cave]

I have a genius idea

They could CGI him into the show

[solemn pumice]

They can't do that, he's not dead yet

[pure vale]

Use the rebels model

[fluid phoenix]

I'll genuinely be pissed if they recast

[safe berry]

You already know within hours of the show coming out someone is gonna upload a video "fixing" Andor by deepfaking Jimmy Smits in

[cloud narwhal]

And cutting the SA scene

[solemn pumice]

They'll keep it in, but vader will appear in the doorway like fucking kratos and do some cringe shit

[cloud narwhal]

People’s obsession with Vader needs to be studied

There have been so many bad guys in this franchise yet these mfs haven’t moved on

[crisp wing]

What is Vader even doing at this point in the timeline?

Is he like on Lothal with Tarkin trying to take care of the Ghost Crew?

[cloud narwhal]

I’m pretty sure the dude is too busy rooting out a Rebel spy network

[solemn pumice]

During the first 3 episodes, yeah he'd be elsewhere

[pure vale]

Luthen does remind me of Mr. Krabs. Not morally, but in oldness

[unreal veldt]

Mr Krabs sold SpongeBob's soul for 62 cents

I think they have similar morals

[frail steppe]

Andor is so cool I wish Paul McCartney was real

[forest quest]

My favorite Paul McCartney and Wings song is “Love Take Me Down (To The Streets)”

[pure vale]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-marge-lighten-up-lighten-up-a-little-lighten-up-marge-gif-8253524319542643109

[fluid phoenix]

[thin raft]

thinking about how fucking funny it was when the range trooper is sitting there loading his rocket and cassian shoots and the dust clears to just a hole where the trooper was 😭😭😭

[pure vale]

He shot him with a “you don’t exist anymore” missile

[steady needle]

The whole TIE Avenger theft sequence was genuinely funny.

it starts like this cool heist and then the controls are inverted and it's all downhill from there.

[cloud narwhal]

He could barely control the Avenger even in episode 3

[steady needle]

Literally the HOTAS of that TIE Avenger is reversed to a normal HOTAS configuration.

Normally the stick is under the right hand not the left,

If the rest of the controls follow the same kind of insanity no wonder he has trouble with the controls.

The throttle is very visibly reversed, hence why he goes in reverse when first using it.

Normal logic would say "throttle level forward -> go forward" both in fiction and real life.

[cloud narwhal]

That and it’s explained he was trained for the regular TIE fighter control scheme

[steady needle]

Which use yokes or more conventional HOTAS like the one Giancarlo Esposito uses in mando.

That was very visibly the classic prototype that tries to reinvent the wheel.

Or had some custom configuration.

In particular reversing the way the throttle lever works is just an accident waiting to happen, I'm not sure there are aircraft IRL, even fly-by-wire, that do that.
A left side stick is actually a thing in non-fighter aircraft that have a copilot so that the throttle is in the center as is shared between main and co-pilot.

The Airbus is like that.

[solemn pumice]

https://x.com/Kerrcarr01/status/1916157053514457519?t=mD7AuQ_dVyUYszdvG17kYw&s=19

Kerrcarr 🟢 🌏 🔴☄️ (@Kerrcarr01) on X

\\major spoilers for andor season 2\\
A new short teaser for the next arc of Andor Season 2 shows a short scene of Cassian running from Jason Momoa, who is confirmed to be playing the Yavin Spirit Exar Kun

X · Apr 26, 2025, 3:46 PM

[solemn pumice]

i love you twitter

[safe berry]

I'm so glad they didn't make them kiss in that movie

[fluid phoenix]

can you imagine if they had a random kiss right before a death scene at the end of a star wars movie despite zero romantic set up that'd be crazy

[glossy cove]

Average Heterosexual Moment

[solemn pumice]

https://x.com/Kerrcarr01/status/1916228096254218487

Kerrcarr 🟢 🌏 🔴☄️ (@Kerrcarr01) on X

I think we’ve already seen Cassian find his sister

X · Apr 26, 2025, 8:29 PM

[pure vale]

He was just supposed to stand there

[tall field]

Only watched ep 1 and I'm pretty captivated. Acting is pretty good. Plot's pretty tense. The effects are lovely.
There's only three small things that bothered me:

• Cassian managed to get out of fucking Sienar with an experimental ship after being harassed by only 2 fighters. I just find it a little annoying how often modern shows treat entire planets like the immediate space on land and if you get out of that you're clear. No orbital defence satelites or large patrol ships. The falcon had to ISDs on it's ass when they were stationed in tatooine. I just feel it gives the planet a better sense of scale when the safe space is hyperspace, not the atmosphere.
• On the same topic: "800 thousand Ghorms". 800 000? On an entire planet? That's it's own closed off developed society? That's less than my capital. A while ago I estimated how many people would be in a backwater planet and I got around 6M. I don't expect most planets to be earth in population. In a high tech society it's expected to be lower but 300 million would make a lot more sense for a whole planet like that.
• Alien quantity is still small. Makes the setting feel less like the universe it's in and more of another scifi setting.
  This stuff's pretty minor though. I'm excited for the rest of the show.

[glossy cove]

In ANH the Empire was hunting down people they suspected having the Death Star Plans, Cassian was just stealing a single Prototype Fighter from a planet that presumably has a lot of them

They probably should have sent more than two other Prototypes after him, fair

But the context is different

[tall field]

It's Sienar. The company that produces TIEs is Sienar Fleet systems. You'd think this kind of planet would have star destroyers stationed at all times. In case something like this happens.

[glossy cove]

I mean, its TIE Fighters

I get it more for stuff like the Defender where its a pet project of Thrawn's, but based on how the Avenger's actually performed it makes sense why it wasn't as protected

[tall field]

That thing had every weapon you could probably fit on it. And if Luthen ordered it captured, I'd say it's a pretty important asset

[glossy cove]

Potentially

I honestly think that the most likely fate the TIE Avenger gets is that it'll be stripped down for parts

Or it will be destroyed

The one disadvantage of the time skip is that I doubt we'll know why Luthen wanted the TIE Avenger stolen except for the fact that he wanted it done

I also just realized that its a TIE with a Hyperdrive so its likely to not pass due to "Funds that should go towards Project Stardust"

[solemn pumice]

The prototype cassian stole seemed to be the only one. So the tie avengers development legitimately just died after it got stolen

Well, until the first order. Where they reused it for kylo tie.

[glossy cove]

Yeah

Don't know how TIE Avengers were used in the games they originated in, but I assume it was in a similar way

I.e. Prototypes that die out because the factory making them gets destroyed

[pure vale]

You think it never went to manufacturing because cass stole the only one?

[solemn pumice]

I mean it's pretty clear that's what happened

The empire was dumping money into the death star and funneling funding from every project to it.
The second they hit even a small road block its cancelled

Same shit happened to thrawn tie defender

[fluid phoenix]

remind me what did thrawn's tie do?

[solemn pumice]

It had heavy canons, shields and a hyperdrive.
Basically a better tie fighter, that could act as a bomber

It was the first part of thrawn broader tie initiatives, meant for the lothal factories to produce more types of effective tie fighters to replace the standard ones the empire was using as their main force.

But it all got shutdown when the fuel depots got blown up the kill the ghost crew and thrawn and disappeared, so he couldn't revive it

[pure vale]

Was his the one with three sides instead of two, or am I thinking of a different one?

[unreal veldt]

Yep

[glossy cove]

One of the best TIE Variants

[pure vale]

Ships with three ends are really satisfying for some reason

[solemn pumice]

Also had anti theft measures where they could remotely disconnect the wings

[pure vale]

Like a more evil self destruct

[glossy cove]

Trying to figure out what they used the TIE Avenger for in Legends and think its literally just Sinar going "Please let us make better TIE fighters"

lmao

[solemn pumice]

More like a "this shits expensive and we physically cannot let it get away or it's being canned"

[fluid phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-revenge-of-the-sith-droid-space-battle-space-ship-gif-15588667

[glossy cove]

It's interesting how simple changes made this ship look much cooler

[solemn pumice]

Helps that they were inspired by kylo tie. Which is cool as fuck

[glossy cove]

Yeah

[solemn pumice]

Tie silencer my beloved

The whisper exists i guess (which i know the advanced was based more on, the silencer cooler)

[glossy cove]

WE HAD FIRST ORDER TIE BOMBERS AND THEY WEREN'T IN THE MOVIES???

[pure vale]

Ermm Kylo’s takes place after. How can it be inspired? Stoopid learn time, forehead ||/s||

[solemn pumice]

Oh they were made for resistance

Resistance ship designs my beloved.
Rest of the show eh

[glossy cove]

The Sequels will be like "Let's make the coolest shit and not use it"

[fluid phoenix]

what the fuck were those like six legged atsts that didn't make it to tlj but they made a lego set for

[glossy cove]

They pulled the Battering Laser

[solemn pumice]

This is just a resistance moment. There's so many cool ships locked to the show

Peak

[glossy cove]

Wait no, I'm dumb

[fluid phoenix]

These guys

[glossy cove]

Yeah

[fluid phoenix]

These were dope as shit

[glossy cove]

I assume they were like "No, just use AT-STs again"

I like this design but I wish we got the other thing

[solemn pumice]

At least they still made it into the wide shots

[fluid phoenix]

oh dope

I didn't notice them

[glossy cove]

You know what

I'm gonna say it

[solemn pumice]

I love the reused scrap ships from resistance

[glossy cove]

I like that the ONLY time the Prequels reused a OT idea is for the ARC 170

[fluid phoenix]

I mean what would you consider venators then

[pure vale]

Weren’t those on Crait?

[glossy cove]

Oh yeah

[solemn pumice]

They were in the background of wide shots

[glossy cove]

AT LEAST ITS STILL VISUALLY DISTINCT

[pure vale]

Still counts to me

[fluid phoenix]

I do broadly agree that the prequels made ships that had similarities to the OT ships but were far more distinct

[glossy cove]

Like, I know its thematic that the Sequels basically reuse everything from the OT because it shows how both sides have stagnated

But I think that's me huffing copium like a addict

[fluid phoenix]

Now narratively I can imagine the First Order intentionally were trying to emulate the Empire

[solemn pumice]

I hate that we never saw any of the new republic star destroyers in the ST

[glossy cove]

They just reused the OT designs because "LOOK ITS MY CHILDHOOD I KNOW WHAT THAT IS!"

[glossy cove]

https://tenor.com/view/marriage-story-adam-driver-angry-punch-wall-pissed-off-gif-16841895

[fluid phoenix]

How many god damn triangle cruisers are we gonna get jesus

[pure vale]

Rewatching rots and I never get tired of how the empire immediately said “fuck your red stripes. Industrial gray only”

[fluid phoenix]

Fifty thousand pizza slices and one hundred thousand more on the way

[solemn pumice]

At least we got these new republic ships in ahsoka. Which looks like a modern version of the mon-cala cruisers

[fluid phoenix]

Now that's sick

I also don't remember them but I don't remember much from the new republic scenes in ahsoka

I did love Ahsoka's ship though

[pure vale]

I think the empire making the galaxy’s transportation modern and soulless is in underrated and realistic evil

[glossy cove]

Imperialization of Republic Technology my beloved

I wish that the Bad Batch had the money to do this even more because I think it really enhances the subtext

[solemn pumice]

Also the fact the new republic x wings only exist in restiance and never made it into the movies.

[pure vale]

God even the ATTEs! 😭 it’s like a funeral suit for a car

[glossy cove]

I really wish we'd gotten to see the depersonalization of Clone Armor more than not at all

[fluid phoenix]

bad batch had it a little

[glossy cove]

Yeah, but mainly for named characters

[solemn pumice]

I feel like it makes sense though. And the early storm trooper designs are at a nice spot between the normal and phase 2 clone designs

Also we saw it with Cody

[glossy cove]

For example, this scene is good but would have been even better if the Clones that joined Howzer also had colored armor

[glossy cove]

By Season 2, I think that's fine

[solemn pumice]

Look at how they massacred my boy

[glossy cove]

But I wish we'd seen colored Clone armor slowly dissapearing more in Season 1

[solemn pumice]

I think its fine not to show it in s1. Since it was literally right after the war and they didn't start phasing the clones out for a good bit

[glossy cove]

I know it saves money to use the Phase 2 model multiple times, but I don't know why they did just do that but with a generic model for Grey and Howzer's legions

[pure vale]

From Cody to Codward

[solemn pumice]

Wolffe lucky as fuck he already had gray armour

Didn't have to change shit

[glossy cove]

I think at any point in the show it SHOULD have been Season 1

Like, one of my favorite things in the show is the Bad Batch customizing their armor at the same time Clones in the Empire have lost that privilage

I don't like that the show is about them but Season 2 did a lot of legwork in fleshing them out that deserves to get recognized

[solemn pumice]

Yeah but its also the downside of the fact s1 rarely focuses on the clones after the war. And is almost entirely just the batch doing random shit.
S2 was when they decided to lock in with the post war commentary

[glossy cove]

Yeah

Plus the show was being made right before they closed down that animation studio too

So I assume they had bigger things to worry about than "maybe we should paint some of these Clones"

[solemn pumice]

That's also kinda a issue clone wars had though. Where you had a handful of clones with unique armour. Then everybody else was copy and pasted

[glossy cove]

Fair

[solemn pumice]

Especially early on. It wasn't for awhile until you started to see less shinnies and more painted clones. Which even then were still copy and pasted. But they at least had their legion markings and colours

[glossy cove]

But also the dreaded shiny model wasn't as prevalent

They copy pasted models, sure, but it was in the same legion colors

Plus I can cope with the start of the show because they're moving towards the superior legion colors

[solemn pumice]

Yeah but that didn't really start until like mid way through s3. Then become common place in 4 onwards

When they moved to phase 2 armour

[glossy cove]

I like these colors but Episode 3 was just better with its Clone Legions

[solemn pumice]

But hold on

501st droids my beloved

[glossy cove]

True

Wild that was, like, the only time we got B1 Pilots in the show

[pure vale]

He definitely couldn’t keep the wolf face

[pure vale]

“I’m afraid I blued myself, general.”

[solemn pumice]

Nah he got to keep all of his personalisation

[glossy cove]

Thinking about how Obi Wan and Anakin killed unarmed pilots in Episode 3

[solemn pumice]

I love how these are exclusively used here and are like never seen again

[pure vale]

Why does he get special treatment?!

[solemn pumice]

Somehow got a lego version though

Pretty sure they got added as a skin in battlefront 2 as well

[fluid phoenix]

I love too Grievous was like "make sure we don't crash!" and the jedi are like "quick kill all of them and crash the ship!"

[solemn pumice]

No wait, they DID appear in the clone wars

[solemn pumice]

So like 3 uses

This is truly a star wars moment

[glossy cove]

I mean, they're used in scenes where it makes sense, so yeah

Like how the TIE Bombers are only really in Empire Strikes Back

[pure vale]

I am also here

[glossy cove]

Because they don't really need to bomb much stuff in the OT

It honestly is kinda funny how the normal B1s are just used everywhere in TCW

[solemn pumice]

Tbh I love battle droids that serve a incredibly specific service and are seen a handful of times

My goats

[glossy cove]

Maybe Obi Wan and Anakin killed all those pilots because of optical illusions from how bridges were in TCW

[solemn pumice]

I'm pretty sure these are used exactly once in s1 for like 30 seconds and and never appear again

[pure vale]

They got a toy at least

Hasbro do it again, pussies

[glossy cove]

Why didn't these guys tell the Sepratists to resist Imperial rule

[unreal veldt]

These guys needed to be in California

[solemn pumice]

But literally their only scene is them complete and utterly failing to put out a fire

[unreal veldt]

So they were in California

[zinc sluice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177736612315136041/1366182302694248518/IMG_7157.jpg?ex=681003eb&is=680eb26b&hm=206a96e4856cb3e1c755e82b83b3dc83f2fe2132fb8058cdd2e0ef0844dcfff6&

[fluid phoenix]

imagine if they sold a toy of the imperial officer and just called him Potential Rapist Imperial

[crisp wing]

They legit just changed the name of it for a Lego Set

[solemn pumice]

When I'm in a being disingenuous competition and my opponents lego revan

[glossy cove]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-theory-that's-from-my-script-thats-from-my-script-my-script-star-wars-gif-13424801206257397343

[safe berry]

It's Boba Fett's Starship or Firespray for all merch and even shit like card games. The idea that the change only ever applied to Lego has not been proven true over the years

Canonically it's still Slave 1 but it's still a dumb case of corporate sanitizing that should be made fun of

[zinc sluice]

👆👆

[glossy cove]

Hot Take: Firespray is a better name

[fluid phoenix]

It's a less relelvant name to Boba

Basically just a type of ship

[glossy cove]

True

[zinc sluice]

It’s stupid whitewashing of a character who IS a villain

Like portrayals of slavery and all that are full-on in Star Wars but you can’t name a ship that in merchandising?

[fluid phoenix]

whitewashing isn't the term but I know what you're trying to say

[solemn pumice]

I think you can admit it's stupid and still fully understand why it happened. Considering they want boba marketed towards kids.

Also not like the ship name has ever been said in canon. So who gives a shit

[fluid phoenix]

I feel like the response this show has been getting is a general sign of why it is important to not sanitize stories for the sake of appealing to children. Because clearly some adults are so used to generic stories with zero emotional depth that they can't handle the moment a show starts to challenge them even a little.

[zinc sluice]

Very real here

[fluid phoenix]

It's also dumb as fuck to act like kids weren't going to be able to buy boba fett merch since they literally already were for like 40 years

[crisp wing]

Also tbh maybe an unpopular opinion but I’m fine with Boba actually having a character arc that leads to him becoming a more Lawful Neutral character. Hell there was supposed to be an episode of Clone Wars that shows Boba has some heart as he duels against Cad Bane to save some innocents.

[fluid phoenix]

I do also say this as someone who liked the premise for BoBF, but I think one of the show's biggest flaws was not properly exploring the nuance of who Boba was vs who he wants to be. What violence is justified, and when it's no longer personal gain but a service for the greater good.

[zinc sluice]

5 year old me knew the ship’s name was Slave 1, didn’t change anything of my parents getting me toys of it or anything. It was never deemed “innapropriate”

[safe berry]

It was literally all because some corpo suit at Disney marketing didn't want to use the name, nobody before that ever gave a shit. And I don't like how complaining about it online is immediately associated with being part of the fandom menace when shitting on corporations for taking fake moral stands like this for the sake of profit should be universal

[solemn pumice]

I feel like the issue there is that they made a big moral issue about it.
When at the end of the day it's literally just a stupid change that like 90% of people won't give a shit about.
But should still be made fun off

[fluid phoenix]

I think a thing too that makes it more irritating for me though is that because it's so small they know they can get away with it. That they actively like testing their limits on what they can revise and change and limit to see who gives a shit or not.

[zinc sluice]

It’s not that big of a deal, but I’m still gonna make fun of it

[fluid phoenix]

It's like cutting the lesbian kiss in TROS for China, they intentionally keep it small so that the vast majority of people don't even know that it's being censored and are less likely to be irritated.

[zinc sluice]

Star Wars fans be hating the Empire but rushing to the defence of a trillion dollar corporation 😭

[solemn pumice]

I don't think many star wars fans actually defend Disney to like any degree.
At least the terminally online ones who would be in a position to do so

[crisp wing]

Hold up a second

Revan have we met

[glossy cove]

Ngl I've always seen Boba as a villain with some morals because of the better Legends stories

Too much of Boba's Legends stuff is just him running around and characters being like "wow, that man only cares about money" so it makes sense why he has so few stories about him in Canon

[zinc sluice]

🤯

Have we?

[glossy cove]

Revan was Laughing Fox the whole time?

[crisp wing]

Were you in a Star Wars discord called Toshe Station?

[zinc sluice]

Uhhhh don’t think so

[solemn pumice]

I think I'd kill myself

[crisp wing]

Ah I was curious you reminded me of someone I met in that server back on my ancient ass 2018 Account that i deleted

[zinc sluice]

She my biggest hater fr 🥺

[solemn pumice]

You must not know a lot of people

[crisp wing]

Ngl Fox i didn’t know that you were a girl. I never really read your profile or heard you speak in VC.

[zinc sluice]

Dawg why do you hate me so much 😭

[solemn pumice]

Hate is a strong word

I could probably think of stronger

[zinc sluice]

You just always shit on me, like it’s insane

What did I do to you 😭

[unreal veldt]

Exist

[solemn pumice]

Bro thinks he's special 😭
There's other people i show active animosity towards

[solemn pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/true-true-morgan-freeman-true-conquest-conquest-true-conquest-gif-12652659272922488832

[crisp wing]

Sea Salt

[unreal veldt]

Chicken Pot Pie

[fluid phoenix]

chicken....chicken jo.........chicken jock...............hmmmmmmm

[crisp wing]

Ngl we both thought opposite things when he said chicken pot pie

[zinc sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-invincible-war-i-need-you-cecil-cecil-invincible-gif-17654934589302344134

[glossy cove]

I think it's funny that people were worried if Brandon Roberts would be as good of a composer as Nicholas Britell, then he casually dropped the best depressing song in the show so far

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-mon-mothma-andor-let's-dance-raise-your-hands-gif-10292341550172352518

[cloud narwhal]

It's not a bad soundtrack it's just that Britell's score was so different and so mesmerising having just a great or good soundtrack already feels like a downgrade at times

but Roberts' score fits very well

[thin raft]

its hard to live up to a composer like britell

[cloud narwhal]

First time I felt like the soundtrack was something else and a step above most is when I heard this https://open.spotify.com/track/6WGp6udkdnl31XKy0pg79F?si=cb2d7b467fcc41c9

Last time I felt like I was completely mesmerised by a Star Wars soundtrack was with The Mandalorian

[cloud narwhal]

I've been thinking about the weird plot hole where Dedra says she was raised in an Imperial kinder-block

Maybe Imperial propaganda got so good it made people forget the Republic

Or she called it as such because it would be a term more familiar to Eedy

[fluid phoenix]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that caught that

[solemn pumice]

I mean, it can work. Assuming she's in her 20s. She could have been orphaned during the clone wars at age young enough to not know her parents. Then put into whatever new imperial institution came about

[cloud narwhal]

Yeah I was about to say maybe she is younger than we think

[solemn pumice]

Otherwise she's be like, the same age as luke and ezra

[cloud narwhal]

I am glad Brandon Roberts released the song that was playing while they were getting ready for Eedy's arrival

https://open.spotify.com/track/3HpYI5Dz2wsVXfIAmL1vfl?si=dd63f14bff6f4bff

[safe berry]

I know the actor is like 45 but she passes for way younger so I didn't mind it that much

[solemn pumice]

Maybe she got mind flayed and forgot her childhood

[cloud narwhal]

Orwellian ass shit if that's the case there was nothing before or after The Empire, the Empire just is

[solemn pumice]

We know the first order did it. So I wouldn't be surpised

[fluid phoenix]

I always thought it was interesting cause like the Empire always feels like it should've existed longer than it did

[pure vale]

Arrogance comes at ya fast

[glossy cove]

In Palpatine's defense, he was very busy preparing for the Vong invasion to actually make sure he was being a good ruler

(sarcasm)

I think the people who genuinely support the whole "Palpatine was preparing for the Vong" argument are stupid

If Palpatine even gave a shit about them, he'd probably just orgasm from the amount of suffering they'd bring to the Galaxy

"Y-you mean that they're i-immune to the Force, they m-mass terraform planets, and are basically u-unstoppable? UAAAGSHEHSGF"

[glossy cove]

SYRIL HAS A HIDDEN 501ST ACTION FIGURE

[fading marten]

When are the next episodes

[glossy cove]

Tomorrow night

[cloud narwhal]

Tuesday night yea

3AM Wednesday for me

[vague cave]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-long-have-i-waited-palpatine-rey-i-have-waited-a-long-time-for-this-gif-26054102

[pure vale]

I’m 89% sure that hidden one is actual merchandise

[glossy cove]

It probably is

[steady needle]

Keep in mind that the one of the left is just one of the many slightly different renditions of the TIE Avenger, the game in which it appeared in (where they called it "Advanced") had flat shaded polygons during in-game graphics and used 2D art or pre-renders for the cutscenes which often had different designs, the textured versions in later games didn't improve consistency.
So this new one is probably the definitive design by default unless we see a "production model" that's different.
The game version was basically a souped up TIE Interceptor with hyperdrive, better missile launchers and shields. Depending on the game it could go at 145 or 133 MGLT at default energy profile (TIE Int went at 111, the A-wing 120, the X-wing 100, TIE Line at 90, TIE Defender 156/145 depending on the game).

[glossy cove]

Gotcha

Ngl I mainly used that picture because it was at a relatively normal angle

[steady needle]

More that they decided not to display the name on a Lego set, at Lego's request apparently.

There are a bunch of no-nos toy manifacturers have when it comes to toys that might actually be on the toy aisle of a general store rather than be exclusive to the collector market, however unlikely that might be in practice.

[pure vale]

I heard Lego said it was the opposite way

[glossy cove]

Thinking of the Half-Track Esque speeder